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Spielberg's TINTIN gets a release date!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. In a weird, but not surprising, move Steven Spielberg's motion capture trilogy kick-off THE ADVENTURES OF TINTIN: THE SECRET OF THE UNICORN will be released in the US December 23rd, 2011, two months after it sees international release.
According to Variety's Tatiana Siegel the pic is scheduled to hit international screens in October or November 2011. Like most ignorant Americans I only know TINTIN's face, never having dug up the Herge comics as a kid. So, it doesn't surprise me they're hitting up International first as TINTIN is a much bigger deal everywhere outside America.
The other bit of news in the article is that they confirmed a 3-D release for the flick. After having seen the CHRISTMAS CAROL Cannes reel, I think performance capture animation in 3-D is pretty damn wicked and can't wait to see one from the combined imaginations of Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson.
What think you?
-Quint
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parp.
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May 29, 2009 10:08:19 AM CDT
Looking forward to this even though I didn't read Tintin
by henrydalton
But then... who wouldn't be?
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haha
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Like fuck she did.
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it's going to be movie for little kids...doubt it will have much adult appeal...I could be wrong but doubtful.
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Watch and learn. You're about to get about 50,000 comments about how this will bomb in America because no one has ever heard of Tin Tin.Then all those same people will head over to one of the threads about remakes and bitch about how all Hollywood does is keep regurgitating the same characters over and over.
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And don't you mean 'Herge'? Anyway I await good things!
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Make that Hergé, mmkay
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was a nazi
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I thought you were gonna say later this year or something. Thats so long away, why even bother release this info? By the time it comes out everyone is going to be so sick of tintin stories!
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You really ARE showing up your ignorance there Quint.
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C'mon-- enough with the unprecedented hype behind this one. This thing wont be available for what another two years? ( I'll bet it gets pushed back again.) Save the hype machine until we at least see some promotional stills or suh'n!
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If I remember, "Secret of the Unicorn" was one of the weaker books. I'd have loved to see "The Calculus Affair" adapted.
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with blowy the dog and captain cod!!!
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The fact that every big animated film has to be in 3d pisses me off bigtime.
I'll probably be giving this one a theatrical pass if I can't find it in 2d, just like I'll have to do this weekend with Up. -
Hergé!!!
One of Belgium's better export products, not counting JC Van Damme, Audrey Hepburn (yes she was Belgian) and Cecile de France (yes she too...) -
I think you're on to something there... ;) Nah, I had heard of them, they're very well known here in the UK I'd say - like the Asterix books though, they just never really appealed to me as a kid.
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it's a tag-team of Speilberg and Jackson. There are zombie rat monkeys in Tintin, right?
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Why would Speilberg want to make a film based on books by a nazi collaborator. A talented artist, but a tres sale/dirty human being.
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I dig Spielberg and everything, but this just sounds fucking stupid. I'm mad hes wasting his talents on some animated stuff. Maybe it'll be totally awesome and blow my mind, but its called Tin-Tin and it involves a Unicorn and its "secret." Blow me.
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Yep, I agree. I guess it does introduce Capt Haddock. But if the first film in the trilogy is a flop cos the source is weak then it will cast doubt on the production of the sequels.
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certainly they're not as bad as the Swiss - those filthy neutrals.
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May 29, 2009 10:30:23 AM CDT
I think we need to be worried about Spielberg's involvement
by cedar_room
when did he last direct a decent family film? I'm gonna have to say 1993 and Jurassic Park. Thats almost 20 years to when Tintin is out.
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that's it. 3D
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A trilogy of movies revolving around a French kid and his "adventures" with unicorns. I give up on movies.....
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I have zero interest in this.
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Nuff said.
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HEY SPIELBERG!!!!!!!
YEAH YOU IN THE TINY TOONS BALL CAP!
WHERES THAT INDIANA JONES SEQUEL YOU PROMISED ME??!!!
LIES!----ALL LIES!
I WAS STANDING IN LINE-- WAITING TO WATCH THE NEW INDIE FLICK AND YOU KNOW WHAT I GOT? AN INFORMERTIAL FOR VIAGRA AND BAD PARENTING!
YEAH THATS RIGHT!---I'M TALKING TO YOU AND THAT STAR WARS GEEK YOU HANG OUT WITH!----YOU HEARD ME---I AINT SCARED OF YOUR MONEY!
THATS COOL---IF I CATCH YOU OR LUCAS IN CHI-TOWN ITS ON HOMMIE! -
http://tinyurl.com/npv2jg
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TinTin youtube redub vids are funny as hell.
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LIAM NEESON: I don't want to take up too much of your time Steve, I was just doing my schedule and I was wondering what months you need me for Lincoln....(hears a click)...Hello? Steve?.....(looks at phone)..wee cunt! (throws it against the wall and exits room, knocking his Qui Gon Jinn lightsaber off the mantle on his way out.)
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Just make Lincoln, Interstellar, even Cocky...but fuck Tintin. And produce JP4. And then come up with something original to do with PJ. You putz.
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I was a kid growing up in Sweden, a country where tintin is almost a deity, where naked swedish gay men pray at his altar. Ok, so I made up that last bit, fucking sue me. Anyway, there's lots of good material for a movie there, but make no mistake: it's gonna be a kids movie that grownup geeks won't find cool at all.
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I loved it as a kid and I can not believe the amount of people in North America have negligible or no knowledge of Tintin. The stories are great and perfect for both kids and adults alike. What disappoints me more than the fact that so many people do not know about Tintin, is the amount of morons that dismiss something without any knowledge of what they are talking about. Why not educate yourself before you start ripping into something that you know little or nothing about...hmm wait... and informed opinion in AICN talkback, what was I thinking.
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If five years ago you said Spielberg, the man who defended film so badly and said he would do Indy 4 with practical effects only, would do a MOTION CAPTURE 3D FLICK, AICN would LAUGH at you. Also: releasing a movie on international markets before doing so in the US is NEVER, EVER a good sign. They will deliver a stinkbomb piece of shit, and they ALREADY know it. If you release an american movie outside the US first - except for Cannes - odds are you have a crappy movie and you want to avoid bad publicity by getting the overseas profits first.
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That involved mutant intelligent mecha-dinossaurs? It was the first sign he was becoming part of the Hack Pack.
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So I can see him scream and cry. Just like he did to us with Indy 4.
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Releasing a movie internationally first IS a good idea when nobody in the US even knows what the hell it is. TinTin is huge internationally, and an afterthought in the US market. And last I checked, you can make just as much money internationally as you can here. This way, you can get 2 months of good buzz internationally to build up interest here for a Christmas release.
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OK, so explain The Mummy 3, 88 minutes, Legionnaire, Sudden Death. All released on international markets first. But on this case, I'd have to agree with you, they want to create a buzz before showing this in the US.
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You can't honestly make those comparisons, can you? Sudden Death? Legionnaire?? Those were bargain bin crap movies. Legionnaire was direct-to-dvd in the US, if I'm not mistaken. Those are entirely different situations. You're talking about Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson here. Industry titans. Those guys are playing in an entirely different league. Releasing TinTin first internationally is more akin to releasing the James Bond movies first in England, which they have done in the past. It's about knowing your target market, not avoiding bad buzz.
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Was that Spielberg's idea for JP4? I know John Sayles wrote the treatment or script or whatever was reviewed years ago. All I know is that idea is solid gold. What film geek wouldn't want to see an R-rated live action movie about intelligent, mutant, bionic dinosaur soldiers? Not a very good one, that's for sure.
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Firstly, Tintin isn't going to be a trilogy but rather 2 movies, filmed in a Hitchcockian film noir style (so not just for kids...North By Northwest is the closest thing to a Tintin movie) Secondly, The Unicorn is the name of a sunken ship. Thirdly, Americans are fucking dumb.
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What's so hard to understand about that? This is not being made for you...but your kids are gonna love it.
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Isn't that when The Hobbit is supposed to come out? Or has that been postponed until 2012?
Anyway, considering Peter Jackson is involved in both as a producer, he would have two major films coming out in the same month.
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Try sticking around the site a while, you'll find some pretty fucking smart Americans.
Granted they won't be the majority, but then I spent most of last week talking to the dumbest Scotsman I've ever encountered.
You'd be surprised by some of the examples of wit & (NO!! Don't say it!!) irony on here.
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than the dumbest American.
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Actually it turns out that the only thing all Americans or all Scotsman or all black people or all gay people or all lumberjacks or all sous chefs have in common is being either American, Scottish, black, gay, lumberjacks or sous chefs. The only universal truth is that all talkbackers are douchebags myself included.
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he/she IS a douchebag
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I ceased trying to understand Spielberg anymore. I cannot understand how the same man who made Munich also made that Indy 4 tripe. And this Tintin movie, it has failure writen all over it. I really don't care.
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I must confess, I'm not entirely sure what a douchebag is. I guess that makes me a dumb Brit. And probably an unhygenic one at that. Hmmmm. Maybe I will stick around.
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Classic.
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...when I was 5 years old, reading serialized, black & white versions of his stories in a little magazine called "Children's Digest." That was in 1972. Asterix & Obelix was a short-lived daily newspaper comic strip not long after that.
I highly doubt that I was the only kid in the U.S. at that time reading that magazine or that paper's comic strips... so why does everyone in my age group claim ignorance of these characters? Even some comic book geeks I know couldn't tell you who those characters are.
As for the argument "This movie will bomb in the U.S. because nobody knows who Tintin is," that's a load of baloney and you all know it. Not every hit movie in this country was based on previously-existing material. Not even movies for kids. "Toy Story" is my #1 example. We didn't know who those characters were prior to seeing the film, now did we? (No, the presence of already-existing TOYS doesn't count. I doubt there was much clamor for tickets once word spread that Slinky Dog was on the big screen.) -
Since when have kids ever enjoyed stories where other kids go on adventures?
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Unicorn SHIT
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I imagine that would be all tinkley. Like a windchime.
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Tintin's U.S. release date of 2011/12/23 is the same as Pixar's "The Bear and The Bow," last I heard. Unless that's changed.
Two animated movies on the same day. Guess which one will win the hearts of American audiences? The one featuring characters and stories known WORLD-WIDE for decades, or the one featuring brand-new, never-before-seen characters from a studio with a reputation for quality work? Place your bets, people. -
Topped off with Munich.
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is a town in Bavaria isn't it?
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Are you trying to tell me that the dumbest Americans are dumber than scotsman75? Jesus.
You know what? I used to believe that Americans could be smart, but that dumb Americans were the stupidest people on earth.
Then I went back to the U.K last December. It's over-run with chav scum. Idiots. You switch on the tv & it's bullshit reality shit like "My face is too big: make it smaller 2".
I'd love to think being English meant I was smarter, but it doesn't. It did. Right now, we have to take smartness anywhere we can find it. -
A remake of "Rin Tin Tin"... a movie about a gay dog?
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the stupidest Brit will likely be very stupid indeed - but will still be smarter than the stupidest Yank because of the culture we have grown up in. The stupidest Brit just by exisiting in a culture that looks outward instead of in is likely to know a slight bit more about the world. He may not know the capital of America, but is likely to be able to find it on a map.
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freakin tintin...lameass character, design and all. and a smart dog friend...thats what cinema needs, more cute supersmart dogs.
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Really. No need for the last bit. Made you look like a wanker which I thought you weren't. If it means anything, you seemed to be one of the few on here who made sense. If you've spent a while here, you'll know what I mean.
That was uncalled for & i'll remember that. You made a good point until you got carried away. No need mate. -
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lighten up, I thought you could handle the banter. Looks like I was wrong. For that I most humbly apologise you darkest of shites. -
I learned to read with the original comics. My dad had them all & they are a part of my childhood. Still can quote them and from time to time I pick them up to re-read. Good stuff.
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& don't you forget it sonny Jim.Me lad. :-).
I can handle the banter. Unfortunately, it's 3:30am & I've consumed more than I should have. Which for some reason means my typing skills are fine, but frankly, I literally can't find my arse with both hands.
What can I say? It's a touchy subject;-). -
2 months after international release???? FUCK THAT!!!! we're AMERICA dammit we get what we want or we blow shit up!!!
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if you're name is anything to go by
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Fuck yeah!!! Or something.
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LOOKS LIKE THE LEAD SINGER OF EVERYTHING BUT THE GIRL. TRUE STORY, THAT.
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Shitty, gassy Japanese style lager (based on the U.S stuff that was brought here, so on that I will most definitely give you your due!). It tastes like shit, gives you the worst headache in the morning, but gets you drunk.
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i thought more like the indigo girls
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they look like Katy Brand.
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WOOF!
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The problem with other adaptations of Tintin I've seen is that they have to cut out too much the dialogue, so they end up being straight adventures. I hope they keep this one funny.
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I guess Spielberg gave up?
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Of COURSE its surprising. I really doubt anyone thought Spielberg would release a Hollywood film internationally 2 months before he would domestically. Come on, Quint. I call foul on that one.
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Blah blah blah... isn't Tintin a dog? Blah blah blah... Nazi collaborator! Blah blah blah... No one in America gives a shit! Blah blah blah blahdey blah. Incidentally, 'Crab With the Golden Claws' introduced Capt Haddock, not 'Secret of the Unicorn.' I know, because I was that soldier.
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In the May 2009 Empire, Spielberg said he wanted to see Lincoln in theaters next year...not holding my breath though!
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soon, unless he's doing a Frost/Nixon stage play turned film sort of thing.
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The only thing interesting here was Quint misspelling Hergé (sp?) (chill out, i'm just fucking with you).
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Seriously. Never tell a unicorn anything that you don't wanted blabbed all over town.
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May 29, 2009 2:29:16 PM CDT
theres quite a few posts here considering no one cares about thi
by slappy jones
weird that. probably because you are all full of shit and I am betting 95% of you will wind up going to see it.
this "whats a tintin" shit is getting fucking BOOOOOOOOOORRRRRIIINNNGGGGG. -
I grew up reading Tintin (I lived overseas for quite a few years). I'm actually looking forward to this!
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I'm sure i'll watch. I'm just not gonna pay any money for it ; )
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The Secret of the Unicorn is without a doubt the single most flippantly bizarre subtitle in recent memory
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Jude Law as Rick Deckard. Karl Urban as Roy Batty. Bruce Greenwood as likeable, hands on Tyrell working on the replicants himself, maybe even proloning Roy's life by inserting a chip into his cerebral cortex! Jessica Alba as Rachel!! NO! LADY GAGA AS RACHEL! Crossover marketing! Blade Runner, the song! Using samples of Vangelis classic score combined with a punching HIP HOP BEAT!!! Exciting chase scenes through cyberpunky LA! MAtrix FIGHTS! BULLET TIME! REBOOT! MONEY! NOW!!!!!
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Exactly how did a discussion about Herge's Tintin devolve into a debate over which nation has the least intellectually capable citizens? I've had plenty of discussions about Tintin that never went south like that. In any event, I'm really looking forward to a Tintin movie.
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Damn... I need to youtube the intro when I get home.
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IF YOU'VE HAD PLENTY OF DISCUSSION ABOUT TINTIN THAT MEANS THAT YOU ARE AS GAY AS THE DAY IS LONG.
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Forgive me, but I had to abbreviate your name since I can't bring myself to actually write it out fully. Being as gay as the day is long is harsher in summer with the longer days. Also, I wanted to thank you. I wondered how long it would take before someone flamed me. I've heard it said that the worst insult one can receive in an AICN talkback is to be ignored completely. So, despite what you may be thinking T-BAG I thank you.
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May 29, 2009 4:51:12 PM CDT
Merge? Just fucking wikipedia it, Quint
by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for
Jesus tittyfucking christ.
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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As a long time TINTIN fan, it’s hard for me to imagine that anyone who loves INDIANA JONES could not know and love TINTIN. That’s kind of like being a fan of THE GODFATHER but not giving a damn about GOODFELLAS.
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For those interested in discovering TINTIN, here’s one fan’s
suggestion: Check out THE CRAB WITH THE GOLDEN CLAWS. Jackson ahs said they
were using some of this story to introduce Tintin to
Captain Haddock in the movie. Then read SECRET OF THE UNICORN but make sure you
also get your hands on RED RACKHAM'S
TREASURE which is the conclusion of the story begun in UNICORN.
Then I strongly suggest THE SEVEN CRYSTAL BALLS + THE TEMPLE
OF THE SUN. Two reasons: the story in those books is arguably the most “prototypical”
Hergé plot in the series and it’s an awesome
adventure by any standards. You’ll see where Spielberg and Lucas got ideas for INDIANA
JONES in the second part. For this reason alone, to see some of a major
inspiration for RAIDERS, I think fans should check these two books out pronto! Secondly,
I’m ready to bet an arm this is going to be the story they use in TINTIN 2. If
you like to jump into a story at its apex, this one will rock your socks off.
An Incan God haunts terrified collectors; high adventures in the mountain of
the Andes; ancient temples (a la RAIDERS), human sacrifices to the Sun God (a
la TEMPLE OF DOOM)… awesome stuff and gorgeous artwork.
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BUT KEEP IN MIND THESE ARE OLD BOOKS! They were published
in the ‘40s and ’50 so you can’t expect something that will click with your
pop-cultured mind; especially if you were born after 1980. You need to go into
it like you’d go into the original IRON MAN or BATMAN books. And also keep in
mind that these are translated from French and it’s difficult to capture French
humor with English. The movie should be a much better adaptation of the
dialogue. The French speak in a very distinctively different way than Americans
and that’s going to play a big part in the way you perceive the writing.
Other favorite TINTIN books worth reading: THE CALCULUS
AFFAIR; THE RED SEA SHARKS; and my
favorite: FLIGHT 714 because of its sc-fi elements.
Note that these 3 albums are later works in the series and it pays off to know
the characters. But either one you choose from this post will give you a good
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Lastly, you might
be interested in reading Destination Moon + Explorers on the Moon. Written 17
years before Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, Herge’s
depiction of the first people on the moon (Tintin and
co) is insanely close to how it went down, conceptually. The only reason I
hesitate to suggest this story as an introduction is because MOON is rather
wordy and a long set-up for the all-action of EXPLORERS. On the other hand,
EXPLORERS may be the funnest story in the series. It’s
the most spectacular, that’s for sure.
If you’re one of
the haters who doesn’t know TINTIN, see a proctologist and once you’ve gotten
your head back on your shoulders, feast your eyes on the stories that made
Lucas anjd Speilberg want
to invent INDIANA JONES. Once you’ll find out what you’ve been missing, you’re
going to be kicking yourself.
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--I think--there was another called 'Humpty Dumpty Magazine' which was about the same thing. Sure that's right-we DID see Tintin there. I think TinTin is fine, as far's as it goes-for American audiences, it's NOT pre-sold any more than Asterix would be, say---it's a European thing. But am sure it could be a fun movie, and both SS and Sir Petey Jax should be able to do something creative and fun w/ it. It will however be a KID'S movie, by and large. It will be for the Narnia/Potter age group if that. I don't think it's made for the same group that likes Eli Roth or Watchmen or whatever. Could be fun. I'm glad Michael Bay has said he's 'Open to the possibility' of doing the third one---
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Well said about it being a European thing. Much like Superheros are an American thing which does not play all that well in the rest of the world. But I think that TINTIN & co being human characters and very much an INDIANA JONES kind of thing, this film *will* have huge appeal in the US. Unless they get the look wrong, the story is there and the devil knows the talent is behind this adaptation. I'm guessing that they're going to get it right and it'll be a HUGE hit the world over. Then the sequel comes out and it'll have brand recognition making it a bona fide phenomenon. Mark my words, they're going to make 3 and then some more....
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... and I'm a Brit. I don't think it's as much of a big deal as The Bearded Ones seem to think. Certainly not to my generation and younger. I vaguely recall the cartoon but it never seemed remotely Indy-like in tone or spirit or pace. I'm worried this'll misfire badly on Spielberg and Jackson. I don't see the audience for it as such and lots of people aren't sold on the whole motion capture deal, me included. People in general love the Pixar stuff of course, but I think the average movie-goer looks at the likes of Beowulf and just goes "what the fuck? Is it a cartoon or is it real or what? There were actors, THEN they painted over them? Why not just make a proper film then?"
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Just wanted to say fuck you very much. I'll translate for you: You're a complete twat. Tosser? Cunt? How stupid are you hanging around an American website saying how stupid Americans are? We may not have been to the moon as many times as you have, but...wait a minute.
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And I thought that was physically IMPOSSIBLE. Egads. "Watch me son I'm agonna play 'Saturday Nite' on me Bagpipes--'
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Cedar Room < ScottsmanIQ75. " "
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Americans say: "What's a Tinnytan?"
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tintin, had all the books, saw the cartoons etc...and i can say that i have little interest in this. For no other reason than i read the books many times, and saw all the cartoons. So why do I want to see an expensive cartoon that is a straight adaptation of a story i already know well. I hope the combined talent of Spielberg and Jackson proves me wrong, and they show me something that makes me want to see it..
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old fashioned and "uncool" can appeal to the kids of today though..
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Just like Indy IV. Epic Fail.
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In Tintin, the Nazi mechanic gets knocked out by the propeller and The Ark makes everyone laugh so hard they can't fight Tintin taking them to jail.
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You can already tell that they know they've got a disaster - but they want to make this so bad it hurts. Never mind that they could spend a billion dollars trying to promote TINTIN in the United States and the best they'd get back in response is "Huh? Who? Man, I dunno." They could spend two billion - five billion - ten billion ... and not any of it would make Americans care. They could cure world hunger and disarm every atomic bomb and the price would be that people go to see TINTIN, and people in the USA would still shrug and say "Isn't that that gay dude with the white dog?" and someone else would say 'Nah, it's POPEYE's kid, I think."
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The stunning, staggering ignorance of all art, culture of the world. It's sickening.
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Im not excited for this.....
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May 30, 2009 3:05:14 AM CDT
Who gives a fuck about america?
by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for
International box office is far more important nowadays. Tintin will be hugely successful everywhere else. If you xenophobes have no interest in it, it won't be a huge loss.
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comic strip / comic book character, I'd rather see a Carl Barks-inspired Uncle Scrooge and/or Donald Duck movie. Though I'm happy for the Tintin fans that they are getting this.
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Superheroes are also popular in Canada, Brazil, and the Philippines.
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I feel your pain. once it was easy to point fingers at americans and say "See? they are dumber then us, we are smarter". And we would all be very happy in our smugness.But that has ended now. Today, all teens from all over the world are inspired by Paris Hilton and Britney Spears. Those are their incons, those are their inspirations, the type of "being" they aim to be. Teens today are all alike all over the world. It's complete homogenization. Nationality and culture is no longer a distintion anymore. They are all the same, and they all pray at the altar of dumb. Paris Hilton and all that she represents is their God, it0's what they aim for, it's what they aspire for, it's who they want to be. My generation was not the brithest there ever was, but this newest one if even worst. Maybe those fucking old geezers were into something. The only good thing i see in the newer genetation is that the geek stuff is far more acceptable today, and thee is no longer those strong lines of division between boys and girls tastes and stuff to enjoy. Now all, both boys and girls enjoy videogames. That's two things i wish had existed in my generation back in the day.
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Superheroes comics like Marvel and DC Comics travel very well around the world, and are very very popular. You have no idea how popular Spider-Man and Batman is around the world, even many decades before the movies.You have to got to deal with the fact that the world knows the classic american comics very werll, and the americans know shit about the classic comics from outside of USA. Culturally, you are a very insular and isolated country, i'm affraid. It's getting better, though.
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comics are very well known world wide. Certainly in both Africa and Asia....
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Does this movie interest you at all?
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you see that big square box in the corner of the room? The one you spend 18 hours a day staring at and masturbating over? Invented by a Scot. You see this here computer you are using to dribble over and spout such utter shit? Invented by a Brit. You see this here World Wide Web which you are using to spread your intellectual inferiority to the globe? Invented by a Brit. But by all means you fly yourself to the moon - coz that has made a HUGE difference to everyone's lives.
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Judging by my posts! I was mashed like a potato;-).
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...why give us a heads up on something that isn't going to be released for another couple of years? I mean, by then, I could have gone to Vegas, lost my shirt at the craps tables, gone on a drunken binge, married a stripper, and found myself in the clink. I mean...TWO YEARS? Who knows where I'll be to make my disinterest known and not see Spielberg's Tintin?
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Spielberg has always been a hero of mine... and Tintin has always been my favourite comic character! I couldn't believe it when I saw that he was going to make to one but 3 movies!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for proving my point, Cedar Room. Shut the fuck up. Is that the game you really want to play? Before there was a WWW, there had to be an internet - that was created by Americans. Look it up, buddy. And you're using software created by the Henry Ford of computers, Bill Gates. Unless you're using the work of Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, that is. Yeah, by all means, pick and choose. You're the one who called Americans stupid thereby showing your own unbelievable ignorance and arrogance. And do you have any idea how much technological advancement has come out of the space program? No, clearly not. That's because YOU are the idiot - and the bigoted blinkered anti-American fuck as well. It's a combination that often goes hand in hand. Go on being sad. You're a waste of time...and bytes. That's an old IBM term from the 1950's when your country barely had refrigeration.
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I agree completely. Bush was the worst thing to happen to this country in my lifetime - and I'm old! But I've had it with the idiots who come on here, mostly Brits I'm sorry to say, as I am an Anglophile myself, and make these blanket insults against all Americans and expect us to just take it and like it. The worst part is they are truly surprised when you call them on it. They're so used to saying this stuff and getting nods, no one challenging them. Well, it's a new day, motherfuckers. That shit is not gonna' pass anymore. I've had it. And if you hate us so much, then stop coming to our fucking websites. I love the Empire site - can you imagine me going on there and talking shit about Brits? It's not just stupid generalization, it's also RUDE.
And they're supposed to be so much more polite than us. Anyway, not to get all rah-rah, but I'm going to call out members like Cedar Room when they spout this shit and I hope other Americans on here will do the same. Enough. -
I still don't even believe this will get made. Remember, TINTIN is so despised in the USA, so disregarded, that it was the movie the studios said "**** you!" to Steven Spielberg when he tried to make it the first time. They told him to **** off. THAT should tell you, if nothing else, the staggering disinterest Americans have for the property. "SO, the most succesful and talented director in the entire world wants to make a movie about TINTIN? **** no!"
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wipe the rabid foam from your mouth and put the buttplug down. The point I made was that the stupidest Scot would still be smarter than the stupidest Yank. And I gave a clear reasoning for that. If you want to turn this into a US v. UK war then fine. Lets go there.
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LOL. You're fucking hilarious, dude. With every post you show yourself to be a bigger idiot and hypocrite. And do you even know anything about British history? Wow, you're worse than I thought. Just keep on talking, I don't even need to be here. Buh-bye.
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May 30, 2009 12:13:10 PM CDT
"Your country was built on terrorism. End of argument."
by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for
Sorry to interject, as I'm neither a Yank nor a Pom, but why is that the end of the argument? Seems to me like a good place to START an argument.
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May 30, 2009 12:25:51 PM CDT
"Your country was built on terrorism. End of argument."
by marshal_lannes
LOL...OK, I'll play...Yes, the USA was built on terrorism...just like it's dear older sister, Britannia. LOL.
:::Waits patiently for someone to play the "Great Britain would no longer exist without the USA's assistance" card:::
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You need to read more history books. My point is simple - you are now waging a war against the very thing your country was founded by. THAT Mr Rebek, makes you a hypocrite.
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It was built on colonialism, racism, tyranny and oppression. You. Fucking. Idiot. And who was talking about any of this anyway? You said Americans were stupid and I was telling you how that statement made YOU stupid. Try to keep up. Prat.
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When just one 'Tin' isn't enough. Just like Mahi Mahi.
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Seriously, there are Americans who are aware of and enjoy the Tintin books. Heck, the only book in the series I don't have is The Castafiore Emerald. Every Barnes and Noble bookstore I shop at has Tintin books on the shelves. Done right, Tintin would make an excellent family film.
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I didn't say Americans were stupid - I said the most stupid Scot would be smarter than the most stupid Yank. This statement does not indicate either that all Scottish people are intelligent or that all Yanks are stupid. You see the difference between you and I is that I am acutely aware of my countries failures and am happy to admit them. Whereas for you no mention is allowed that something American may be wrong. Guess what? Americans ARE ignorant of so many things. It's just a fact. They live in a bubble and have no knowledge or interest in the outside world. Other countries, like those say in Europe, are by design more outward looking and knowledgable of other countries because they interact with them on a daily basis. My point earlier stands: a stupid Scot might not be able to tell you the capital of America but he could point to it on a map. Is the reverse true?
and actually again being the knuckle dragging mongtard that you are you have spectacularly missed my point about a country founded on terrorism. Perhaps it is unfair of me to have expected you to have read a book - but YOUR country was founded by acts of terrorism. A violent insurgency rising up against your colonial master. Was the UK? No. Did it use tyranny and oppression to colonise the globe? Undoubtedly. But is its inception a result of violence? No. I bet you actually have no idea when the UK was formed so don't try and lecture me about being stupid. Wrap yourself in your star spangled dishrag and keep chanting.
U-S-A! U-S-A! I AM SO SMART! S-M-R-T! -
This is my last response to you, because it really is a waste of time. You are so stuck in your way of thinking, you can't even admit that my responses have been intelligent and based in logic. When you're still calling me a knuckle-dragging illiterate "mongtard" (??), then you obviously have your Scottish head so far up your ass that you can't even argue with reason. You're in your own world. Which sort of betrays your great point about how advanced and evolved you are compared to Americans. It is not "just a fact" that Americans are more insular than Scots, that is by definition an opinion. There is no official measuring stick somewhere for that. You have an opinion, and I bet you haven't even been to the US. Or if you have, it's been like three days at Disneyworld. So you're getting this "informed" opinion of yours third-hand and of course only consuming the information that supports your bias. Oooh, you're a sociopolitical genius. Who the FUCK are YOU to judge an entire country - the most diverse and multi-ethnic country on the planet?? And what does America starting as an insurgency have to do with anything?? Yes, we were revolting against your imperial ass, so what?! Did I say I was for the Iraq War? Uhh, no. Am I part of the half of the country that never voted for it or for any Republican? Yes, so... What the fuck are you railing about? I'm a Liberal Democrat - do you even know what that means? Or in your ignorance do all Americans look alike to you? Have you been watching the news lately? You might have noticed a new guy with slightly darker skin... How does he fit into your Great Satan world view? Were we ignorant when we elected a leader of color, which you haven't done in the UK? Dude, you would make a flag-waving American out of a communist with the stupid things YOU say! Of course, my country has made mistakes, and the last eight years have been hell - but to say we're stupid when we have consistently created, innovated, developed and advanced in all the sciences and technologies and yes, even explored the "final frontier" more than anyone else (What could be more outward looking than that, you puffed-up little putz?)... Well, that makes you a stone-cold fucking idiot. Not to mention a total hypocrite because you wouldn't be on this site if you didn't eat up the entertainment that is our greatest export to the world. You are a bigger jingoistic dickhead than the redneck Americans you seem to be fixated on. Just because your country is small and quaint, doesn't mean you are superior and incapable of bigotry. And it DEFINITELY doesn't mean you're more intelligent - you have proven that without a doubt. Bottom line: Every time you generalize about Americans, you are showing only your own ignorance. Because if you had actually been to my country, you would know that you can barely even generalize about the state of California (LA vs. SF), let alone the whole nation. Look, if you hate us so much, you sad little prick, if you're so desperate to feel superior, then take a stand and stop using any of our products or watching any of our entertainment, and just stick to stuff made in the UK. Have the integrity of your ignorance; wear it proudly, mate. And us Americans we will have a good cry over it and then forget you ever existed and if we ever in fact gave a shit.
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Goddamn I used to love the comics and I used to love the cartoon, it still blows my mind that Spielberg & Jackson are co creating a film trilogy. This is what I've been waiting for for years!
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I have a lot of hope for this film. Also, The Secret of the Unicorn is a perfect starting point for the films. I hope that adapt Red Rackham's Treasure as the second film.
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May 30, 2009 4:02:43 PM CDT
"well allow me to retort" (quote from an AMERICAN film *shock*)
by cedar_room
1. I'm not Scottish.
2. I spent the first 3 months of this year living and working in New York.
3. Mongtard is a portmanteau of mongoloid retard a.k.a. you.
You've made this into an argument it was never intended to be, but thats because you suffer the very generalisation syndrome you accuse me of. You think that voting in Obama reaffirms your status as the greatest goddam country in the world. Yes well done - you have cleaned up the massive shit you did on the floor and now you want a pat on the head. Well how about just not shitting on the floor in the first place?
In the UK we haven't elected a "leader of colour" - but neither have you voted in a leader of the female persuasion. We also have a much smaller percentage of non-whites in this country (around 8% compared with your 20%) and those we have we didn't legally discriminate against as late as the last 50 years. So yes, WELL DONE, you get a huge pat on the back for reaching the point the civilised west reached centuries ago.
so in summary I just ask you to admit it - the average American is ignorant of the outside world. Say it - it doesn't make your country any less worthy. Admitting your flaws allows you to address them. It also shows you are an adult. -
"TINTIN is so despised in the USA..."?
Don't Americans have to actually know about something before they can truly despise it? "Knowledge of TINTIN is woefully lacking in the USA..." would be a much more accurate statement. -
1. You sure argue a lot for a Non-Scot, and have a lot invested in their incredibly big brains. 2. I love the way you never respond to the main point of my posts because you know "Americans are stupid" - which is what started all of this and not the same as insular - is an indefensible position, and that knowing the capitol of Scotland (Istanbul, right?) is not the
universally accepted standard of intelligence. If you're saying that the US could fit the UK into my state of Colorado (can you find it on a map without looking at the names? Hint: It's one of the square ones.) and the US has four times the population, so therefore we forget to call sometimes or send you flowers, then yeah, I guess I'll cop to that. So far I haven't heard you say anything critical about your own little fucked-up bloodstained homeland. Maybe I missed that? Did I blink? And yes while we were here oppressing the black man, you were doing it in their homeland of Africa, and to the "savages" of India. You are so very civilized, you complete twat. Which brings me to 3. You spent three months in New York and you think all Americans are the same?? You must be that rarest form of idiot that even a lowly "Mongoloid Retard" (class, mate) would look down on. You don't have to take a massive shit on the floor, my friend, you ARE that massive shit. -
I just watched "This Is England", a story circa the 1980's, and you're right, it's obvious you have had no racial problems at all in the last hundred years. God, you're so civilized. (Damn Pakis!)
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just MORE stupid than a stupid Scot. I do believe this is a point you have failed to address, instead opting to rant about how great your country and it's achievements are.
oh - and This Is England? It is called a "film". It is "made up". It is not a historical documentary. Not that I would expect you to understand the difference Cartman. -
Just to show that I'm not the sort of person who forms his opinions by watching films, or TV shows, or other things which are "fictional" - but on real life experiences that I have had myself...
Over the past few years I've worked in several different countries for months at a time. I've worked in Jamaica, Bangladesh, Jordan (and soon South Africa) as well as the US. Without going into specifics, I deal with visas. People wishing to travel to Britain. In all the countries I've been in, and all the different nationalities I have encountered (and being in New York you deal with dozens of nationalities other than American) the one and only nationality which applied for a visa and yet forgot to send in their passport with their application...... were US citizens.
That's right - despite all the advice about what you should send, despite it being COMMON FUCKING SENSE, despite being mastered by third world nationals who had spent nary a day in school - it was Americans (and this was more than one or two EVERY DAY) did not send in their passport to get a visa. The ONLY nationality.
Now this is just my experience - perhaps the goat herders of Sudan are similarly intellectually challenged. Perhaps this is all a big conspiracy against The Greatest Nation On The Face Of The Earth. Or....perhaps...just perhaps...it's a sign that your average American is just a little bit more naiive, a little bit more ignorant, a tiny weency bit more stupid than your average other national and thus shows their true colours when put to the test.
This does not try and devalue the country as a whole, which has more than produced it's fair share of brilliant people to advance the common man. And yes, going to the moon was a bit of a larf (although I still maintain that television has been more useful an invention than velcro) but you must face facts and be less defensive Mr Rebeck. You can't be perfect at everything my American chum (*note* chum means friend). -
You're a well travelled assbag. Shaddap. Roy Clark's IQ > Keith Richards IQ. Fuck you.
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you've insulted Keith Richard's IQ! My life is no longer worth living.
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...not necessarily because it's about Tintin. It'll be just like how most people will give Zemeckis' umpteenth motion capture adaptation of A Christmas Carol. Mo-cap is animation without the Pixar charm, Lasseter and great storytelling. It's pretty much an updated, computerized version of the Ralph Bakshi roto-scoping animation method.
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"It'll be just like how most people will give Zemeckis' umpteenth, motion capture, adaptation of A Christmas Carol a wide berth."
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It's the biggest, boldest statement yet by Hollywood that the U.S. market is less important now than the worldwide market. This movie will do well in the states, but gangbusters overseas where Tintin is cherished.
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You're really arguing about this stuff?!
To be fair to Cedar_Room, he wasn't the guy who started the "Americans are dumb" stuff. That was a guy called thats_magic. He's the one who should have been jumped on, if anyone. When it comes to countries, there's never gonna be a resolution. People are always gonna defend their own & if you're gonna go down that road it only ends up off3ensive to both sides. Calm down fellas.
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It isn't the case that Americansd don't care about it & Europeans do. I'm originally from England (not that we're especially European but nevertheless), I couldn't give a shit about Tintin. Ironically, I was a Batman kid. Just because something comes from a place, it doesn't always follow that "this type" get it & "that type" don't. It's either good or it isn't. In my opnion, Tintin isn't. Pretty simple really.
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And I'm going to laugh.
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I know how popular American comics are in Europe and the rest of the world. But they're far less popular compared to TINTIN or ASTERIX. It's like comparing the popularity of TRANSFORMERS and a Woody Allen film. As for America, I don't know how much more open to the world it is. But if it's getting better as you say, I'm sure it's all thanks to big tough intellectuals like you.
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than rabid nationalism
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GIANT PIG!!!
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That's a mistake, man. Spider-Man and Batman are more popular then Axterix and Tintin all over the world. They are world phenomenum.Really, you canot extrapolate what happens in the USA comic world to what happens around the world. You can't, it would give you an erroneous perception.
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The people in Britain are europeans, regardless if you like it or not (which is another matter entirely). listen, if the icelanders, which are far mroe isolated then you are inthe British Islands, have no probem identifying themselves as europeans, and they have a far more insular culture then the brts, then what's your problem? Listen, yes, the french are an irritating bunch, but they are not the whole of europe. And the 100 Years War ended a long time ago.As a Portuguese myself, i can sympathise a bit withy your position. as you mith well know, my country Portugal is also pretty isolated form the rest of manland Europe. We are that rectangle that exists at the southwest corner of the Peninsula Iberica. Being in an extreme of the a peninsula already makes us isolated form europe, that we only have land borders with Spain doubles that geographical isolation. and my people is quite mixed with people from north-africa, black africa, the east indies and asia. But that doesn't change the fact that we are europeans. Regardless if we like it or not. Beign called an european is the same way a japanese being called asian. He will not be less japanese for that. You are not going to be any less english for being called european. It's just a classification, that's all, no problem about it. We are europeans, that's it.
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How about "Little Britain"? Is that a documentary? LOL
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I completly agree with you about Mo-Cap. It has to be one of the most charmless filmmaking technique i ever seen in all my life. I can't understand why so many filmmakers are so inlove with it.There is this online movie reviewer called The Flick Filosopher, and she mocked the hell out of Mo-Cap in her review of Beowulf. She said there was already a Civil War technology that was great in capturing the actors' performances, it's called photography. And she's right. I cannot understand what's so fuckign great about Mo-Cap that photography cannot do, and do much better and much less expensively. Mo-Cap is technological masturbation, the same way i fear 3-D will be too.
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Maybe he wanted to say that americans despise what they do not know. Which would not be an exclusive attitude of just the americans, i'm sad to say. Sadly, that attitude runs rampant worldwide, and things are not getting any better.
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is one unfunny piece of shit. In that respect I hope it isn't representative of this country - but in terms of depicting people in wheelchairs who aren't really ill - welcome to the world of Incapacity Benefit.
how's the head today Dark Shite? -
Man, I'm not talking about an American perspective. Read the clues. Don't change your moniker to SherlockLives.
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Asimov lives, I know Britain's a part of Europe. That's why I said we aren't "especially European.
In other words, culturally we probably have far more in common than the U.S & Commonwealth countries than we do European countries, simply as a result of our own Anglo-Saxon culture being quite uniquely different to European cultures & the fact that we spread it to those other countries.
When people are talking about Herge (I don't know how to accent that) & saying Europeans like his stuff, that's a generalisation. If I'm a European, does that make me unusual in not giving a shit about Tintin? I care even less for Asterix.
Cedar_Room, my head's not too bad mate. Although I think I may have shat out a kidney. -
I lived not far from the Spain/Portugal border for a while. I always wanted to visit Portugal but I was busy working. It's a shame I'm on the other side of the world now.
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I read some of the comics when I was a child, and seem to remember some boring as fuck cartoon show too. But I really have no interest in the character whatsoever. Asterix on the other hand is brilliant - so detailed and so many sight and linguistic gags in every frame - it's a a great read (or at least it was when I was younger).
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just get along?
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going dude. Hope for your sake not Johannesburg lol...
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Who was SherlockLives? Somebody who once posted here?
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Pretoria. Supposed to be a bit nicer but not necessarily great. Whereabouts are you?
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We can't escape generalizations, i'm affraid. They are just too convenient for some, you know?and since you are english and i'm portuguese, this means we are two guys from the two countries with the oldest alliance still in effect. In fac,t the history of our two coutries has been very interliked thoughour the history of our nations, for good or ill.And i love british humour. Monty Pythons and League Of Gentleman are two of the funniest things i ever seen in my whole life.
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Listen, anytime you want to visit Portugal, give me a call here. I'd be too happy to at the very least tell you some of the stuff in my country and do some advising. And yeah, our wines are great, i should know that!! Ai ai!! And f cours,e the english also realised that soon enough. I mean, it's the english who actually own most of the Port Wine made here, anyway. And i don't blame them.
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Yeah, he should be careful about going to Johannesburg, he could meet some of those aliens from District 9.
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What is nicer, Cape Town or Pretoria? I mean, from the perspective of a foreigner, of course.
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Tintin is about a French, crime-fighting dog. That is a fact, and I will murder any piece of Euro-trash that tells me otherwise.
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Stop it. Let other people have opinions without your ridiculous ranting.
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That's Rin tin tin. And it never went to the moon. Tintin went. And Tintin is a real french name, not some invented on porpose for a comic character name.
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Nevermind, mate. My mistake.
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than Johannesburg. I like Pretoria for the most part, but its one of those cities that has really nice suburbs, but there has been a fair degree ofurban decay within the city centre. If you have time I would recommend the Pretoria zoo to you (if you like animals that is), and the voortrekker monument if you want to be seriously offended by how casually racist it is....
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Now i admit that im biast as Im from CT, but I promise you it is the most beautiful city in SA, and the most cosmopolitan. It also has the most things to do. Lots of historical monuments, awsome beaches, good restaurants, lots of outdoor activities etc...
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currently living in Korea.
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TINTIN IS THE SINGLE MOST HOT BOY HOMOEROTIC CARTOON SERIES EVER. IT'S CRYING OUT FOR SOME GOOD OLE FASHION BUGGERY. SCHPELSBURG, PLEASE DON'T LET US DOWN ON THIS IMPORTANT PLOT POINT.
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Fuck off already.
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Loved the HBO cartoon when I was a kid. And apologies to Cedar Room, I see the argument/debate is pretty much over and I'd just be that idiot who goes over and kicks a hornet's nest that fell out the tree yesterday. But seriously, let's be mature here, some of those comments were really uncalled for.
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SHOWING BLACK PEOPLE WITH HUGE GIANT LIPS IN BASICALLY AL JOLSEN BLACKFACE. NOT TO MENTION THE UBER COLONIALIST VIEWPOINT. BUT HEY MAYBE SCHPEILSBERG WILL WORK THIS IN.
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If you’re gonna flame, do some research.
It’s fair to mention the context for the example you give. What you are talking
about can be found in TINTIN IN THE CONGO which was published in 1930. This is
before WWII. In this country, Blacks were not allowed to drink out of the same water
fountain as white folk. Women didn’t have the right to vote, nor could they
even open a bank account and I mean white women included. And just like the Black
/ White fountains did not offend the people of 1930, those drawings of Africans
in Herge’s book didn’t offend his readers either.
They’re offensive today but knowing the context deflates your CAPITALIZED
spasm.
This is no defense of the art you mentioned. That’s one
good reason not to read that book. Another is that it is terrible on every
level. Seriously, folks: if you’re going to take your first look at TINTIN, take
one of my suggestions above. Reading the earlier books won’t give an idea of
what Spielberg is going to do. TINTIN evolved a lot over the first stories and
it’s only about a third of the way into its timeline that the comic enters what
you’d consider it’s “canon,” where the characters are in place and the stories
have become their own thing, etc..
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