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Cool! Cool! Cool! AVATAR production art!!!
Update: Quint here again. The MarketSaw guys do have a story on these pieces (and apparently got a confirmation from Fox), but didn't get the scoop. The scoop came from a French site called DVDvision. I'll leave the MarketSaw links because I think they have higher res versions, but wanted to give credit where credit was due. Good work dvdvision!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I have to run out for a little presentation, but right before I freshened up I saw these come in! Had to share! So cool! Me want Power Suit! As usual, MarketSaw is on top of Avatar stuff, getting official art from Fox. Click through each to get high res versions! Now I just want clean versions for wallpaper!
-Quint
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Finally something a little more substantial!
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Which is a bit weird...
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Oh so close!!
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Someone seemed to mention that they would no longer be, for some reason... Looks cool anyway
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Wasn't this available for the PS2?
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at least now we some idea of what the world will look like.
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from...which shitty matrix was it?
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it's like, an untouched jungle or swamp.hmm, my eyeballs are not only un-fucked but their cherries are still intact.
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but after all the drooling hype, cameron better finally show us something that brings it...the secrecy is going to backfire big time.
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looks rather unremarkable.
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Must have been an expansion pack.
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but it's too flaccid to be able to get it in there.
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I don't see him anywhere here and I'm not happy about it!
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Well, it's concept art. How many times have we seen concept art, and it bore no resemblance at all to the finished product. These pictures are not a worry, what scares me is the fact that so little of the actual story is out there, nothing on characters really, and what little we HAVE heard makes it seem like a bigger-budgeted version of Battle For Terra. If this is just another 'Humans are all bad, Evil Corporations are realllly evil, and we should never bother the eensy wee helpless little growing things on ANY planet (ie our own)'.. well then people are going to tune it out, and it will be one of the biggest bombs ever.
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As we can see in the concept art here, the trees and foliage are green. As anyone who has read the scriptment will know, all vegetation on the planet was to have been blue, purple, and magenta, because the plants on Pandora use difeent chlorophyl to Earth. So is it green here because it's just early concept art, or because its a fake (and market saw ain't the most reliable of sites - they've posted many false stories before), or has the conception of the world simply changed? Did Cameron decide purple plants all the time would fuck the audience's eyes (and not in the good way)?
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Another preachy environmental film where human civilization is depicted as corrupt and evil. One human will defect and join with the oppressed aliens to repel the human invasion of their home planet. Basically you're looking at Dances With Wolves/The Last Samurai meets An Inconvenient Truth.
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Fucking your tastebuds in 2009.
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Is this the First Airbender?
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Battle for Terra was the rip-off of Avatar, a cheap cash-in. Its not exactly the same, but it definitely ripped a lot of stuff from the Avatar treatment that has been floating around the net since the late 90's. A similar situation to the underwater movies that tried to rip-off The Abyss in 89 (a production that was also kept top secret).
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How can anyone come up with something so brilliant after only 12 years?
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Now, how about a damn poster or trailer already???
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May 28, 2009 10:28:07 AM CDT
Yeah! Who the fuck even wants this?
by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for
Personally, i fucking hate the idea of an original sci-fi flick from a great director. Where's my alien reboot?
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You might want to revisit the longer cut of T4 once Avatar is out... there are many more similarities to come
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The mech looks typical, but I guess there's only so many way to do it? Maybe it also transforms into an ATV or something... Anyway, so there's one typical looking vehicle in the film, big fucking deal... it won't spell success or failure for this movie.
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is purple grass just for the sake of being different and 'alien'.
big daddy, i know it's just concept art, and not indicitive of the final product. for instance the concept art for T4 was awesome, and yet that movie isn't living up to it. like you said about the tired plot, i agree. they just need to fess up to the fact that it's the same old kind of story and designs- and the only thing new and epic is the presentation or the way it was filmed. nothing wrong with that, just be honest about it. it's going to be a gimmick movie. every james cameron flick is a gimmick movie. god bless him, each one does introduce a new technology to the world of film, but each movie is pretty much only memorable for the effect that was introduced. (with exception of aliens, which was just pretty solid and amped up standard special effects of the time)abyss=cgi water techT2=expanded liquid cg tech andmorphingTitanic= blending real with cg on a large scale....and AVATAR will be=stale sci-fi premise dolled up in new 3D tech, that without it, would be pretty standard fare. -
Market Saw got it greenlighted by Fox.
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Star Wars meets Aliens meets Lord of the Rings meets The Matrix meets Anime meets First Blood meets Apocalypto meets Lawrence of Arabia meets Pocahontas meets Dances with Wolves.A splendid time is guaranteed for all.Avatar = Epic Win
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i expected to be getting some ocular foreplay by now
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the hell is this movie about again? I just know it supposed to be some Cameron knuckle shuffling inducing visual experience.
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The animation is not in motion...I think this thing is going to looks great in 3D
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I can't remember.
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that is all.
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Dude, look around you. Human civilization IS corrupt and evil. Well, with any luck we'll destroy ourselves long before we spread our contagion to any other planets.
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so I went to IMDB. Reads like Dances with Wolves but with mecha.
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May 28, 2009 10:35:06 AM CDT
I FUCKING HATE SOME OF YOU GUYS!
by the gospel according to bastardface
"The secrecy is gonna backfire big time."
Why do you all resent the fact that you know very little about this film? Why is that offensive to you? In this internet age every fucking movie is raked over the coals before a single frame passes before our eyes. Look at what the fan reaction to T4's original ending was? Because of that hyperbole T4 was lessened even more during production. I am glad people like JJ Abrams and Cameron et all believe part of the magic of cinema is surprise, so why do you all insist of spoiling every fucking facet of every fucking film demanding to be entertain RIGHT THROUGHOUT THE FILMMAKING PROCESS! It's pathetic and it's cultivating a damaging status quo of films made at gunpoint. I really wish we could go back to a time when we knew fuck all about any film aside from a teaser trailer you'd see once or twice before the actual film. Those were the days. -
and they all come courtesy of adolf hitler. hmm.
“Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it”- sounds like the marketing campaign of hype to me. and in regards to making purple grass just to be different- “Anyone who sees and paints a sky green and fields blue ought to be sterilized.”
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Is NOT whether the basic plot of AVATAR is going to break new boundries or introduce ideas that anyone who's read a little sci-fi isn't going to recognize. It is also NOT whether the imagery is going to surpass what we've seen coming out of video games in the last decade. What we should be excited about is that Cameron is in the driver's seat, and Cameron cares about story. Guys like Michael Bay can do action and spectacle, yes. The result is a film like Transformers which is satisfying in a "I don't really care if it makes sense" kind of way. But Cameron has shown in the past that he makes an effort to make his sci-fi make sense. To make action drive the plot, to make characters whose motivations are clear, to keep outrageous coincidences at a minimum. Cameron is a great storyteller. He says he hates writing, but that's probably because he's one of the few guys doing sci-fi who actually seems to take the time to get the story right BEFORE he signs the merchandising deals. I, for one, am looking forward to AVATAR.
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With the metal leg picture, Avatar was making eyes at me from across the room. With this concept art, Avatar is slowly caressing my eyeballs in a candle-lit room surrounded by rose petals. What comes next...?
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okay, it's the secrecy (which i respect- i think we SHOULD be kept in the dark about many elements of the movie) HOWEVER- anyone paying money for a ticket deserves the right to know t least some of what they are paying for, AND so far all we have gotten are whispers of insider cocksuckery that keep telling us how awesome uncle james is and how the movie will fuck our eyeballs. well, such hyperbole is not enough to sell a ticket to me, or most people.
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Sounds good to me.
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No Cameron movie is ever a gimmick, and it disgust me to hear such a short-sighted thing said. It disgust me because he's always managed to combine his tech with compelling stories . I'm sure as hell not watching T2 now for the morphing, and Titanic was a hit because the romance and characters connected (however cheesy you may have thought it)- it wasn't because of the ship sinking. THAT is the difference between Cameron and his imitators. It won't be any different here. As for the story being standard, The Terminator was a pretty standard time travel story - is it on a level with some cheesy 80's rip-off from Canon or something like that? No, because it's the way the story is TOLD, how all the elements are put together. Why do you think the original Matrix hit big, despite raiding the sci-fi concept closet? Star Wars - used the same old story since time immemorial. 'Originality' is a much-abused term.
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The film doesn't come out until FUCKING CHRISTMAS. Calm the fuck down and let them finish the fucking film. You're determined to hate on it for what reason? That you haven't seen a trailer? It's pathetic and juvenile. I'm sorry to rant at you, but you're getting on my fucking tits.
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That's why the fucker can take a decade off from this shit and fine tune whatever he's had going on in his cranium. Hell, True Lies could have come off like a goofy action comedy...which it was, but he made sure that the f/x work and dialogue worked well.
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Now, your kissing their ass over Avatar? You guys are really lame. I call bullshit on this whole site. Rodriguez is gonna make a kick ass Predator, by the way. The ass hats on this site hold all their little toys and memories so precious, it clouds their judgement...
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you just don't.
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Mate, it's still six months away and we can count ourselves lucky that the marketing juggernaut hasn't been pimping this flick no-stop. Remember the days when we saw a trailer a month or two before the flick came out? I remember seeing a fucking Spiderman teaser trailer that was released at the same time it was getting made! The King Kong trailer was a full year before the movie came out.
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if they ever. wasn't sam worthington 12 when they started it?
anyway, i am here to get on your tits. that's what the tb is about. nothing personal. i'm just venting. i will concede that james cameron is probably the BEST storyteller of the sci-fi action directors. by far. i'm just saying i remember when the films came out, all anyone was talking about was that 'crazy water snake' or the 'morphing cop guy' or go check out how that ship gets broke up real good'. so said the sheeple anyway, who buy the most tickets. wiser folk like us can look back and peel the layers of his movies, but most don't bother, and i didn't mean to sound like i was one of them. -
Humans are like large, powerful, headless (mindless/uncaring) machines that invade a natural, pristine environnment. It is going to be really preachy.
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Camron's idea to use purple grass was definitely NOT just to be different and alien in a silly fashion. That's another key difference between Cameron and his imitators. The entire eco-system of the planet in Avatar was heavily and carefully thought out, based on real and speculative science. It's not just random shit. Ditto with all the engineering of machines and sets - again they look functional and could work. Somebody like McG doing sci-fi comes along and says 'yeah, let's cover that wall in red lights and shit, that'll look futuristic' ie. cheap and unconvincing looking sci-fi. Not so with Cameron. There was very scientific and logical reasoning for anything in that treatment and thus it will be so with the final film.
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But then I always thought the treatment was underdone and a bit cliched anyway. The technical side of the movie is what's going to determine its success or failure, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't have a decent story. As it stands now the treatment includes ever sci-fi, action movie AND environmental cliche rolled into a single film, but I remember years ago Cameron said that he'd pretty substantially reworked the original idea.
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Is pretty old. Think perhaps just maybe James Cameron revised it?
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My eyeballs...remain un fucked...mind you I love Cameron and I have a fascination with concept art..however the unabashed love for this project confuses me...
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Kashyyyk? Where is Chewie?
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Because none of the movies you used as an example made any money, right? Pfft.
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Those designs are suitably cool. The flying beasts going after the shipamajig tell us that they're probably creating a whole ecosystem for this world. And while the designs may be something we've seen before, we certainly haven't seen them in action scenes as directed by James Cameron. Come on guys, this guy made T1 & 2 AND Aliens. You owe this man the benefit of your flippin' doubt.
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Not impressed yet.
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Maybe when the full trailer hits.
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does it looks like it was made for a video game? yes. However the video games look great with great ideas. Unfortunately they adapt the wrong ones and they put shitty talent behind it. Now imagine Cameron doing a videogame movie. Avatar. I even heard that there might be first persons scenes in it. was it done before? hell yes. But I am sure Cameron does it better and sets a new standard. And all of you Cameron haters out there. Lets see Cameron weakest movie, True Lies. What was the last time you saw a movie that quality. I mean can you compare it Mr and Mrs Smith? Today movies are more expensive than his movies ever were, yet they look cheap comparison. If you don't like Cameron movies you probaly don't like movies in total. If you are not excited about his return to big budget (money spent on visuals and not on marketing) Sci-fi/action there is a big chance something already died inside you. If you complain about the secrecy sourranding this movie you do not remember what was it like before the time of internet.
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We know so much about movies before we walk into them these days that watching the film itself seems like an afterthought. Sites like this give away so much information beforehand the films have no surprises left.
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This will fail bc there are no teasers out yet? No footage? Do you even know what you are talking about? Have you ever stopped to think that the reason films aren't so exciting anymore is because we see trailers and teasers and loads of footage sometimes a year in advance? So that by the time you're actually in a theater, all that excitement and spectacle has been lost. Did you ever grow up in the 80s, when sometimes you had NO idea a film was being made until you saw the trailer? How is this any different? Give it a rest.
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HELL FUCKING YEAH CAPS LOCK! The movie will be released eventually, and it may be good, or it may be bad. We'll see. Until then, hit the treadmill.
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A bad video game...and will be a bad movie too...
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Damn those images look good! In an earthy, but not-Earth kind of way. The mech walker looks cool, but the hovering copter is what caught my eye. The dark frontal nose looks badass yet very functional. If this is the level of tech design we're going to see thoughout "Avatar," I'm very excited.
Also, like zom-bot, I'm excited to see the trailer, but I prefer to know as little as possible about this film before seeing it. I want to be immersed and surprised while I sit in the theater sporting 3-D glasses.
And that's the other thing: not only is "Avatar" an original story directed by man-among-boys James Cameron, not only will we see images inspired by the stills Quint posted, not only will we be immersed in an all-out, ass-kicking, far-futuristic drama, we'll also watch it unfold in next-generation 3-D.
Whew. Thank god Cameron is around to show artless posers like McG and Michael Bay what a real, story-driven movie is.
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I know there's no exclusivity on twin rotors but that looks almost exactly like the Hornet. Original vehicle design please!
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anything leaked from avatar actually did sort of violate my eyes. I wouldn't say they got fucked long and hard or anything, but at least those pictures give me an idea of what to expect (finally) And if those images can brought to life in a really badass convincing manner, I actually think this could rape my eyeballs later this year. I'm not jerking off or anything like some people, but this is the first thing I've seen that actually looks like it has some vision behind it.
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I see people posting much more interesting and exciting art in the speedpaint thread on forums.sijun.com every other day! I know its just concept art, but still...
The work I had seen from T4 (and other recent films) was dull too, not seen the art of book though so maybe the rest of it was amazing...
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till release date. You've GOT to have some footage for a teaser trailer. Please don't introduce it with Ice Age 3, just so the kiddies will already have their 3D specs...
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need a tralier that ONLY hints at your greatness!!!!
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...and people are still bitching about hype. It's just so tiresome and stupid when you consider how secretive this project remains at this point.I can't wait for an actual finished scene to hit the web because I'd really like to see what Cameron's been up to. If the marquee directors (i.e. Jackson, Spielberg, Favreau, Sodebergh, etc.) who have allegedly seen some footage are telling the truth, I'd love to see AVATAR kick these whiny pre-hype babies in the mouth.
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The expectations are crushing...
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because I just finished reading the 1000+ pages long Battle Angel Alita when I heard the Cameron is making that as his next movie. About a year later I learned he is doing Avatar, a sc-fi/action/love story instead. I just hope we don't have to wait until 2021.
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Didn´t know they were shooting Matrix 4! I need to geek up and go easy with my social life.
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Jesus, I'm with Gospel Accordind to BastardFace. You all fucking suck. I do, hesitantly, agree that the massive hype could backfire big time, but only because nothing can live up to these expectations, not one thing. However, people are still complaining about not knowing details and characters etc. We are SEVEN MONTHS AWAY. I know this day and age we usually have scripts in our hands a year or more out, but come on. This is an event. Do you even want the details right now, seven months away? We will get the goods when it is FUCKING CLOSER TO RELEASE like it should be. You all act like its coming out next week and we havent heard anything about it. Get a fucking grip. SEVEN MONTHS IS A LONG FUCKING TIME.
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I'm interested to see what happens when James Cameron drops a billion dollar movie into theaters without telling anyone. Seriously, it's summer, shouldn't we at least get a teaser? I'm sick of hearing about this thing. I'll probably see it, though.
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May 28, 2009 11:21:00 AM CDT
Um...is he actually making this? Then how about a production sti
by photoman
Production art? Are you fricken kidding me? Show us some production photos or something. I swear, is this guy actually making this thing or is he still farting around?
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So not seeing it. End off.
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May 28, 2009 11:23:57 AM CDT
have you guys realized that today movies have a weak third act?
by johnryder
It is because they don't want to show the ending in trailers (a fuck they don't) but they only spend money on shots that will make a kick-ass trailer -> strong opening weekend. I don't want to see an AVATAR trailer. 6 more months. after 12 years (15 if Titanic does not count) it is like nothing
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Yeah, that's because we haven't seen a damn thing. We got a piece of a picture of a mech, and we have some concept art. You can look at porn and get an idea of the fucking going on, but you're still not getting fucked. Try waiting til this is actually out. I'm not saying it IS going to fuck our eyeballs, but that joke is so old at this point. The last time I went into a movie not knowing what to expect, I GOT THE FUCKING MATRIX. I am QUITE pleased that this is being kept so hush-hush. And if it's preachy? Good. People need to be preached to, and not in a "GOOOOOD wants you to do THIIIS!" sort of way. Wake up and smell the embalming fluid: God is dead, and we have only ourselves to rely on. Keep on keepin' on, James. I'll be there opening night, even if I don't see another image from this before the first frame.
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Although even if my eyeballs aren't fucked by the movie's presumed awesomeness, new 3-D movies always strain my eyes and give my a headache, so at least they'll feel fucked.
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looks like any video game, seriously guys. and the robots hands are too short.
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thats for me to know and for you to find out.
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So, Cameron is making Aliens:2?
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ITS THE NEW AND IMPROVED mech from aliens lol looks awsome cant wait mr cameron
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Am I the only one who thinks Cameron did his best work when he was working with (and married to)Gale Anne Hurd? Sure, his films from the 90's were huge hits, but I'd rather see his 80's stuff a thousand times each than watch one of his 90's movies again once.
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then you'll LOVE this: GOLDILOCK
There's a trailer too!
Check it!
http://thegoldilockszone.blogspot.com/
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Yeah, dioxholster, you sure know what you're talking about. Looks like any video game, yup, sure does.
Except that it's artistically hand drawn and evocative, unlike all video games. Cameron himself is an amazing artist (check out some of his work), so these could even be drawn by him.
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so bad, not even interested. looks like King Kong mixed with ALiens. btw, check out Stargate Universe concept art its much better than this crap.
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you impatient bastards. Like someone said above, Cameron made Aliens, T1 and T2, give him the benefit of the doubt. Jesus Christ, I'm sure we'll get a trailer soon enough.
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From these images it looks like any other jungle. It's a bit of a letdown actually. And if the aliens are supposed to look like cats, blue cats, and the movie has an ecological theme, well... you can color me unimpressed. No matter how many mechs or photo-real cat people -It's still just blue glowing cat people and a matrixy robot suits. JC sure likes the color blue... I guess the rationale of having blue cat people is because it lets them blend in better with the jungle environment, specially with the glowing blue part of the jungle. Anyway, if Avatar sucks the backlash is gonna make the phantom menace debacle seem like a picnic. Either way, we will be fucked, in our eyeballs or in our wallets. I really hope JC makes the best sci-fi movie ever, honestly, but judging from these 2 images -granted it's just 2 concept images, the brainfucking is gonna need a couple of blue pills.
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until we see the movie. Some of you are going to eat your words and some of you are going to be right. All of it will be from blind ignorance, of course.
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People are able to see this movie sucks with 2 early concept art pictures? Am I missing something?
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You missed the memo that most of those people are idiots.
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looks nice. arbitrary, but very artistic. However the premise seems similar, It was never why we were excited about Avatar
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You're telling me that they can't get a teaser trailer or poster out there? It's not like they need actual footage or anything. The Dark Knight had a teaser trailer 1 year in advance, and used only a couple of pieces of dialogue.
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i know their strategy. release trailers and promos a month before film release
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I know it's probably going to be good, but the more info and pics that come out from this, the less excited I become. Maybe that'll just set my expectations low enough that I'll be blown away by the time I see it. I'm hoping anyway.
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Will Smith and Jar Jar Binks...Harry will love it!!!!
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If that is their strategy, I wish them luck. They will need it.
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mother fucking Avatar mother fuckers fuckin' awesome.
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The mech looks nothing like the secret pick posted a few days back, Plus the ship looks a lot loike the drop ship from Aliens. (The same wings with missles)
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And it keeps making me wish that Cameron directed "Transformers." That's all I have to say.............for now. :0
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All the concept art for this project has been sub-par period and these pieces are no exception. These are like first pass throw away designs for any game project. Seriously, This looks like student level design. Just look at the work on http://www.conceptart.org and you'll see what REAL concept art should look like. Professional high level design does not look like this.
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Utter pretentious shit.
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May 28, 2009 12:14:13 PM CDT
From Sylar "I really hope JC makes the best sci-fi movie ever"
by skimn
Boy thats not a tall order is it? Eyeball fucking notwithstanding, I think we just want to have a sci-fi film that can stand alongside Camerons prior work.
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She sucks. Nasty ho.
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for this movie when there's virtually been no info released other than JC is using some new technology. Everyone just assumes that it's a James Cameron film so it will kick major ass. He could shit in a cup and most of you would be fighting for a spoon.
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...to be only a movie. Go figure.
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It's the second coming of fucking Christ himself!
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of genre cinema has let us down...
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He sticks his shovel toe in the hole and when a giant cgi catfish bites he just lifts his foot and the little man inside gnaws on his face.
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... what if Wayne Barlowe was doing some doodles with Skull Island in mind.
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in it's pants...didn't even get near my eyeballs
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I'm amazed at the level of jaded hipster bullshit I'm reading on this thread. You're being such assholes, I can't even believe it.
Grow up and allow yourselves to be inspired once in a while.
Oh, that's right. Hipsters can't do that. Inevitably, they must skewer the small details of greatness in order to hide their own tiny, self-loathing views of the world. It's pathetic, and it's why hipsterism is doomed to being a fad.
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Thanks for looking!
Yeah I dunno if I should be bummed or cised that Cameron is makin a movie about an alien world too... Just thought maybe some of this audience would like GOLDILOCK. :D
Mine is more like Tarzan meets Jurassic Park...on an alien planet.
Thanks for your feedback!
http://thegoldilockszone.blogspot.com/
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Kashik, right?
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Granted, concept art is almost always better looking than the film in question, but still, looks big and primordial...
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Had babies?!?!? Look I'm not a hater and I have NOTHINg against this film and I'm NOT saying it won't be great. I just haven't seen anything that makes me that excited yet. This stuff looks cool but I want to know where the kool-aid is so I can get a drink becuase it's not "ALL THAT".
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Has become such a gimmick. I'm a little sick of directors pulling this. What movie in history has ever benefitted from acting like you were developing a top secret weapon? If nothing it just comes across as arrogant, like you're too good to tell folks anything. While oversaturation is one thing, I think sharing juicy tidbits a year or so out helps build anticipation. I do hate trailers that tell the movie though. I know that Cameron probably feels pressured to deliver in some way since his last major release was only the biggest film in history. But if the storytelling is good, who knows. I just think it's time to start marketing this like a movie.
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I just watched the trailer for "Goldilock" and really dug it. Seems packed with vivid, well-drawn science fiction art, and I'm sure there's a good story It's very cool to see movies like this being put together. Good luck with it!
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The image you posted is similar in certain ways, yet also radically different to the point of non-comparison.
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Thanks so much for checkin it out bud! It's actually for a comic (maybe a movie one day!) that i've been slaving over. Glad you dug it! I appreciate the feedback.
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I'm going to the police station to have my eyes swabbed with a rape kit. This movie will ROCK!
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The Creature from the Black Lagoons director, Breck Eisner, is off the remake. Universal wants the film to be dark, gritty, and scary and are looking for a new director.
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shes cool, shes a good choice because shes the real deal but her personal life is questionable, like fucking a dog is gross and disgusting
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They know that I am a sucker for rainforesty swamp decor. They heard that I wasn't in the least bit interested for this film and decided to unleash these.
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Is John McTiernan available? Or Neil Marshall would be interesting.
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It's ripping off Transformers etc etc,blah,blah,blah ;-)
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....could someone please tell me when the eye-fucking begins?...
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May 28, 2009 1:00:45 PM CDT
Please! Neil Marshall for Creature From Black Lagoon reboot!
by sith witch
I'm sorry to hear Breck is off the project, but Marshall will be fantastic!
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Not what I was hoping for, but I'll wait and see. Remember, Camerons' last film was Titanic. Not the best story or dialouge. He might have lost it just a little bit. We'll see.
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Oh, fuck off. The man has some great concepts and knows how to pull off action sequences, but his efforts in storytelling are too tres facile. Titanic is basically Romeo & Juliet on a sinking ship - yet it would have somehow been more compelling if delivered in actual Shakespearean English. True Lies - yeah, it was the story that made that work *cough*. Terminator - the central conceit and great action propelled those films. And Aliens - when the high point of the script is "Fucking A!", well, you know you're onto a winner there. Admittedly Aliens had a fantastic sci-fi environment, inherited from the first film - oh, which Cameron has nothing to do with, right. Don't get me wrong, I love his films, but never once considered the story to be the driving point of his films. The man is only one step above George Lucas in that regard. Cameron does two things well - action effects, and making Bill Paxton somehow look good. I'm excited about this film, but only do see if it does actually advance film tech in some way - story be fucked. Jesus, some of you guys should do his PR - oh wait, you already do. Now wipe his cum of your face - it's getting in your eyes.
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"1999 was the end of fandom's innocent optimism and the beginning of something rancid and self-entitled and angry, something that's more about tearing down and insulting than about celebrating or enjoying." http://tinyurl.com/ozvunq
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Yes, Cameron's last film was "Titanic," and it was a classic in the greatest sense of that word, a story of love, sacrifice, and paths less taken in life aboard a tragically doomed ship. It's still the highest grossing film of all time due to it's universal, multi-demographic appeal.
"He might have lost it a little bit." Really? Lost it? I'm chuckling as I read the braindead self-interest stuffed into that observation. But oh well.
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If I'm "blind" regarding your need to stuff unimportant "look at me!" red herring ship comparisons into this thread, then I gladly accept that mantle.
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But it's not game-changing. Maybe the 3-D and performances will give us that.
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Still stoked to see this this tho.
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thinking the secret might bite them in the ass
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NO GOOD AT ALL, THATS WHAT
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Why do people keep comparing the concept art to the Matrix and Halo? Haven't any of you seen The Terminator or Aliens even The Abyss? All which were done way before Matrix and Halo.
If anything Matrix and Halo are the rip offs and they totally are.
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A bore, propped up by females under the age of 25 - internationally - who became the "mainstream" equivalent of fanboy repeat-viewers. It's the biggest film of all time because of how the film-going experience has changed. Once, people didn't see the same film over and over in theaters, except for obvious genre films or classics in re-release. But, just as teenage geek boys saw the original "Star Wars" forty times, teenage girls saw "Titanic" forty times. As there are many more teenage girls than teenage geek boys, and ticket prices were much higher by the time "Titanic" came out, it was carried to a post-"Jaws" height never before achieved.
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AVATAR! Dry humping your eyeballs half-heartedly with a chubby before you drift off to sleep.
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Exactly.
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Enjoying McG's Terminator?
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You mean you did that??? Wow. Hats off. I just wonder what you use to get that kind of inspiration ;-)
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it gets more obvious with every "leak"its their way of seeming SOOOOO secretive and mysterious, yet still getting the fanboys hyped with tidbits.
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I'm telling you. Cameron needs to go back to his roots and do a small budget noir detective film that depends more on good writing and solid acting than special effects. Scale it back, surprise everyone with an amazing film.
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Are you kidding me? If Titanic is a "classic" to anyone other than the crowd that now loves Twilight, then we have truly lost our perspective on the career of Jesus H. Cameron.
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FINALLY you motherfuckers are waking up to how AVERAGE he is. He had two good films -- Terminator and Aliens -- thats it. Accept it and move on.
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Enjoy Cameron's cock?
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Garbage, Cameron is a master storyteller, and you're ridiculous attempts to put him down, not to mention peg him as a notch only above Lucas, show your infantile understanding of the scriptwriting process. I love your attempt to dismiss his work on Aliens (which even on a world-building level is something quite different than Scott's film - and was itself influential on so many video games, RPG's, anime, and other movies - I don't really remember a great deal of depictions of the military in space in movies prior to this). Weaver got nominated for an oscar for her performance on that film - something unheard of in the 80's for a genre film, a sequel no less - precisely because she had a strong, character-based script to bounce off of. Aliens has rarely been bettered as a genre script. Titanic is a masterpiece of structure, with every scene advancing the plot in some way - something the acerbic William Goldman even praised it for (also you may be aware that the 'plot' for Romeo and Juliet was, in fact, stolen from earlier texts by Shakespeare - it is an archetypal story). As for True Lies, the story did indeed make that work - everything Arnold's previous action comedy, Last Action Hero, got wrong in lampooning the action genre, True Lies got right, because it always walked the line between outright farce and seriousness very carefully - the comedy aspect was expertly modulated. And truthfully, name me any better writer of genre fare than Cameron. there's certainly not many, if any. He's an expert at structure, plotting, set-ups and pay-offs, and sometimes simple, but always effective, characterization.Now some of you dicks might be going just for the effects and 'splosions, but then you're part of the problem of why the modern blockbuster is in the toilet. I've always liked Cameron because he's a great storyteller, first and foremost (the tech marvels are just the icing on the cake); that is the underpinning of why his films actually work, and anyone with an inkling of knowledge about screen writing and story construction would know this. Doesn't mean he's a super intellectual fimmaker or even the best scriptwriter, but he is most assuredly an accomplished, classical storyteller. Now suck it, choke on it, and regurgitate it.
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I am pretty sure somebody is bullying you in your elementary school.
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You're a broken record. We get it, you don't like Cameron. You hate T2. Any TB regular knows this. Find something else to bitch about. I'm not defending Cameron or T4, but you've made your point. There's no need to continuously bring it up. It's annoying.
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This film will bomb magnificently. Why? Because I can. Oh it will be pretty, but will be a box office disaster.
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"AVATAR! Dry humping your eyeballs half-heartedly with a chubby before you drift off to sleep."now you know how "your drunk girlfriends feels".
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PIRANHA 2!!! What a work of genius! I hope he will someday revisit this stunning masterpiece and craft Piranha 3! In this thrillingly mediocre installment, we learn that the Piranha is actually a Caring Father Figure. He only bits because he loves. WHY DOO WOO CWY? Asks the concerned Pirahna? BECAUSE WEEE WUB WOO!!! Shouts the wickle boy who loves Guns n' Posers. Then mom shows up and goes GRRRR! SO AMAZING!!! See, the "irony" is that the Piranha isn't really a aquatic predator, he's a Concerned Father Figure. Yes, thats what passes for "irony" for those who think the world began in 1991. Yep. De-Evolution Is Very Real.
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I like James Cameron, I'm just sensing a turkey of expensive proportions.
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those pics have more action than T4. enjoy your ALIEN reboot too, jack-off.
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B R I N G I T O N .
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The first mecha reminds me of designs from the series Combat Mecha Xabungle. That's not neccesarily a bad thing though. I just hope thew film turns out well.
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Get back to me when you finish middle school.
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Cameron's "directing debut"Credit for directing this film was given to James Cameron. Most of the work was actually performed by Ovidio G. Assonitis, the film's producer and prolific film-maker. Assonitis was dissatisfied with Cameron's progress after the first week and took over. According to "Dreaming Aloud," a biography of James Cameron by Christopher Heard, Cameron did do the shooting for this movie, but was not allowed to see his footage and was not involved in editing. He broke into the editing room and cut his own version, but was caught and Assonitis re-cut it again
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Even if the story inside of Titanic was lame... His primary goal was to recreate a historical event as accurately as he could. As I stated before... 90% of you don't know anything about film making.
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Lord Jim is back to show the world how it is done.
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fucking die!
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He has a few good films...only T2 and Titanic were great...and Titanic had a lame story but it was effective as a moving piece of "art" somehow. The Abyss was damn cool and Aliens was OK. The first Terminator was lame and True Lies was forgettable. Yes Cameron is overrated, but he does have some skills. Avatar will probably be interesting and worth the $15 3D ticket price.
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Give us a fucking poster already.
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Especially since both ALIEN and ALIENS are flawless. Too bad Cameron never followed up ALIENS with a another film even half as good. Too bad. He had so much potential.
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the fact that a robot CREATED to destroy mankind and kill the leader of the resistance is reprogrammed and sent back TO PROTECT HIM and his mother. to quote the Gospel of Bale, "WHAT DON'T YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND?????"
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I'm still waiting!
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Why the fuck does the whole planet have to be one climate in every sci-fi movie?!?!Cameron, Lucas, Twohy... at least Twohy makes some plausible extreme planets.
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Don't reboot Avatar ! Avatar can't be reboot !
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The mech looks like a green version of an Exosquad mech. Strip off the extra weapons and lower it's hunchback and it's the same thing.
http://www.virtualtoychest.com/exosquad/exo_big_maggie_crop.jpg
The helicopter looks just like the GI Joe Sigma 6 Dragonhawk. Just smaller.
http://www.collectiondx.com/review/2006/dragonhawk
BTW, Avatar will not be coming out this year. Not even close. And it's budget is becoming far more than reported.
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Again, as I said, give me a ring when you finish middle school. You might also be served by, I dunno, looking up the literary term BEFORE you start throwing it about. It makes you look PROFOUNDLY idiotic.
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More like shafted him and his creation royally with his one inch cock, all in the name of the great god Pizza Hut. Terminator Salvation sucked; I told you it would. I thought it would have been at least a little better than T3, if forgettable, but it couldn't even manage that. By far the poorest terminator movie - and a nail in the coffin of a once great series. Avatar, on the other hand, will rock the universe; it will be the big bang of 21st century filmmaking. You know it, and I know it. It is pointless to resist. I'm delighted that all my predictions are coming tue; I must be Nostradamus.Team Cameron = the winning team. He made you cry for Arnold, and now you're just embarassed!
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I've never had a problem with you; I think we may have agreed on things in other talkbacks before. But you are continuing down a path that makes you look more and more like a flaming moron.
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Laserpants, I respect your opinion of Cameron, and you've been consistent in your critiques of "Terminator 2." You at least write well and show a sense of style. These are good things.
I just disagree with your position on "T2" and Cameron in general, the latter opinion of yours having been basted in the fires of backlash against your specific critiques of "T2." I understand how that works. The backlash you receive pisses you off, forcing a push into greater, more encompassing criticism of something. I don't think you dislike James Cameron in general, I think arguments with AICN people on the merits of "T2" have soured your opinion of him in general. Which is too bad. I wish I could ease some that sourness, though I don't presume I could.
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Why the hype? Why all the interest? I can't get excited about this at all...and all this gooey love for James Cameron. It may be a fun action flick; but Aliens is inferior to Alien in every way - there's no comparison in quality, cinematography o storytelling.
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i mean that design has been done to death.
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I was hoping for something else. Maybe that is why James Cameron was so pissed with McG's version of Terminator? That robot in Avatar appears to have been ripped off by McG?
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...more original...and fresh.
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I disagree, ScottinDC. I think "Aliens" was superior in almost every way, since it involved action, amazing characterization, and legendarily quotable lines.
"Alien" was a great film, don't get me wrong, but I think (and I'm not alone) "Aliens" was far more dramatic, hard-hitting, and though-provoking.
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And we all know how well that worked out.
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And we all saw the artwork from "The Dark Knight," and look how that turned out, right? Yeah.
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Largely irrelevant comparisons - since Cameron was smart enough to make his film its own thing. As far as storytelling is concerned - Aliens is the superior film. Alien never had much of a script at all; dan o'bannon is no scriptwriter, and in other hands it could have been a terribly cheesy B movie. Scott and Giger elevated the material though, with their direction and design giving a lot of implied 'depth'. But Aliens has a better plotted narrative. Weaver was nominated for that film, not the original, for a good reason.Cinematographically, Alien is superior, but then Scott was untouchable in the late 70's/early 80's design and art direction wise. Doesn't mean Aliens looks bad.Hopefully, more people wake up to just how good Cameron is: when you've been weaned on shite for a decade, I guess you lose your sense of good taste.
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As brilliant as Giger and Scott's design work is in Alien, let us not shortchange the terrific design work from Mead and Cameron in Aliens.
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May 28, 2009 2:23:42 PM CDT
And just to show I don't swallow just anything Cameron puts out
by turdontherun
I'm not entirely happy with this concept art. I like the mechs, and the gunship, but the alien environment looks too normal - it doesn't look like the trippy phantasmagoria (though still grounded in realism, not talking about Alice in Wonderland shit here) promised by the treatment. I'll be disappointed if that isn't the case in the final film - though this could be just speculative concept art, one of hundreds, or fakes leaked out to throw people off the trail.
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that Cameron is an artist who designed the terminator exoskeleton (Stan Lee said that) and the supercool Alien Queen is his work too. I mean it was very faithfully gigerish.
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I was never a Titanic fan. The dialouge was laughable. I really never bought the love story. And some of the death scenes were absurd. This is just my opinion, but I never liked Titanic and I don't have high hopes for this movie.
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is off the charts here...so thick you could choke George Lucas on it...it's all his fault anyway
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Take a look at ANY book full of concept art, and you'll see hundreds of designs that are modified or don't end up getting used at all.
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Cameron has, if anything, been underhyping this film. It is fanboys who, understandably, are desperate for the return of great genre filmmaking who are hyping Avatar.
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about AVATAR than I am. I think it will set the world on fire like STAR WARS did in 1977. That being said, the environment in those production illustrations looks a little too much like Skull Island to me. The original scriptment described Pandora differently.
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is that videogames have been ripping off Aliens for the past 20 years. every space marine, machine gun in the future, dropship, robot exoskeleton, Aliens is like the fucking Holy Grail of nerd storytelling.
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I HOPE IT'S THAT KIND OF ATTENTION TO DETAIL THAT WE'LL BE SEEING FROM CAMEROON WHEN THIS IS RELEASED.
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oh no!
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Even a bad Cameron film is worth seeing at the cinema...he has earned the right to do whatever he wants..even a Titanic and i'll go and give up me pounds. Listen if this guy says he is trying to herald in a new era of cinema then I for one believe out of all the big directors he's the guy who can do it!!
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maybe this concept art was for the mech and aerial vehicle, and the artist of such wasn't tasked with pandora's alien environment
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WITHIN AN INCH OF HER LIFE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HE WOULD TALK ABOUT IS HOW COOL MICRONAUTS WERE, AND THAT IT WAS ALWAYS HIS PLAN TO DO THE PENULTIMATE MICRONAUTS MOVIE. TRUE STORY, THAT.
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nailed it on the head
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Feels like it.
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...SHIT I JUST TOOK THAN THIS RIDICULOUS FUCKING MOVIE. GIANT ROBOT SUITS.
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Looks like we are on the same page! The description of Pandora in the scriptment was mindblowing wasn't it? But yeah, still grounded in reality.
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ARE JUST LIKE THOSE FUCKING COCKHOLES THAT STILL USE 'JUMP THE SHARK'. THEY SHOULD ALL BE WATERBOARDED IMMEDIATELY.
THOSE OF YOU MENTIONING BALE IN EVERY TB: CONSIDER YOURSELF ON NOTICE BECAUSE YOU'RE NEXT YOU UNIMAGINATIVE PONCES. -
EXCEPT BY ME BECAUSE I INVENTED IT YOU PRICKS.
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IS PERFECTLY VALID AND LEGIT.
SAY, DOES ANYONE KNOW IF SIGORNEY WEAVER HAS TRIMMED THAT MASSIVE BUSH OF HERS? TALK ABOUT JUNGLE. WHEW. -
very good point drturing.
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You're about to get banned...seriously dude
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Only in this day and age, can geeks get into a shitstorm over two pictures. Wait till the new one-sheet comes out. That will really get all of your blood boiling.
This is all you need to know.
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IT'S NOT A GOOD POINT, IT'S BESIDES THE POINT YOU FUCKING PIMPLE. A FAIL IS A FAIL, REGARDLESS OF INTENT.
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but I like the aircraft.Isn't Cameron showing a 70mm print of both Aliens and The Abyss somewhere soon? Maybe he'll spring some surprise Avatar footage at that event.
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Geeks have been really let down this year. That can nearly be forgotten if you blow our minds. I'm very impressed.
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when almost all of us used to talk about Spielberg this way? "He's going to change film!" "He's an utter genius, embraced by the public - but the public only understands the most superficial levels of his talent!" and so on. Now look what the monkeymass of fandom says about big Steve. Bet you all ten bucks that in another ten years we'll talk about Cameron as we do Spielberg, assuming Cameron makes any fucking movies in that time.
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I'M ABOUT TO GET ASSBLASTED? WHAT? IT'S NOT EVEN FRIDAY.
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Praise Bale I can never get enough of them!!!!
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Not to impugn 'Aliens,' which is indisputably one of the best sequels to a great original ever made, but when you analyze the climax of the story, it's very nearly a remake of the first film. Following an extended air duct sequence, the climax of 'Alien' has Ripley running through the about-to-explode Nostromo trying to save the cat and escape--In Aliens, following an extended air duct sequence, the film has Ripley running through the about-to-explode atmospheric processing station trying to save Newt and escape. In both films, Ripley escapes the explosion at the last second, but the alien stows away aboard the escape craft. And in both films, the alien is dispatched by blowing it out the airlock. It was only Cameron's considerable directorial elan that made all these lifted devices from the original less noticeable.
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...AND HIT THE ILLUSTRATION DEPARTMENT. PASTY WHITE KIDS ARE CRANKING OUT ENDLESS ROBOT FANTASY ART WHEN THE AREN'T WACKING IT TO MEGAN FOX.
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Since you mentioned him.
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What could you possibly infer from these shots about the finished product? Nothing. And yet people still have the balls to say bad things about it. Gimme a break.
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Types of irony
These modern theories of rhetoric distinguish between three types of irony: verbal, dramatic and situational.
Verbal irony is a disparity of expression and intention: when a speaker says one thing but means another, or when a literal meaning is contrary to its intended effect. An example of this is sarcasm.
Dramatic irony is a disparity of expression and awareness: when words and actions possess a significance that the listener or audience understands, but the speaker or character does not.
Situational irony is the disparity of intention and result: when the result of an action is contrary to the desired or expected effect. Likewise, cosmic irony is disparity between human desires and the harsh realities of the outside world (or the whims of the gods). By some definitions, situational irony and cosmic irony are not irony at all.
the fact that a robot CREATED to destroy mankind and kill the leader of the resistance is reprogrammed and sent back TO PROTECT HIM and his mother.
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NICE..glad you're diggin it. It's definitely all about Miyazaki, Taiyo Matsumoto, Moebius, Bester, Crichton, Burroughs...to name a few things that inspired GOLDILOCK.
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Why is it they're doing pointless reboots, but no one has yet to tackle a Voltron movie? It's a lion!!! For real!!!! Come on now.
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the fact that have to explain to you numerously the subtext of T2 SHOWS 1.you're a fucking idiot2.i guess Cameron's films will not stand the test of time if YOU are the future of moviegoers(weesa want our clone wars! weesa want our reboots! weesa want our future war..let us suckle from your teet o great McG)3. Cameron is a great filmmaker and craftsman. try finding "themes" or "subtext" in a T4 or any other"blockbuster" today. 4. school's out NOW. enjoy your summer in the baby pool fag.
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This doesn't take place on an alien planet? Kind of bullshit is that?
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it was on cable last week. sasha is a nonentity. so is her character.
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It's not like seeing giger's art for the alien for the first time. How cool was that for people back in 78
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Must've been watching Jon and Kate. Damn.
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C'MON, this art doesn't even give my eyeballs a handjob. The reason I'm picky in regards to this project is because it's been in development for 15 years!! Seriously, I want my balls rocked off!
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That's the real star here. Not some manned robot.
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with a wired jaw? That could not have been easy.
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FROM MASH? HOW DOES THAT FACTOR IN TO HIS CREATIVE PROCESS?
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at this point I'm starting to think it's going to give me a fucking blow job.....it BETTER.
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Surprisingly un-fucked.
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EXACTLY ABOUT LINDA'S WIRED JAW. GOOD QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS TODAY, BTW. I'M SMELLING MY POOPY FINGER AND THINKING OF YOU. TRUE STORY.
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Typical.
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the girlfriend experience.
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Bleh. Soderbergh doesn't interest me anymore.
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You're not supposed to tell Laserpants what irony is. You're supposed to ask him what he thinks it is first, then you can prove him wrong and make him look ridiculous.
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Ya ripped off artist Yoshiyuki Takani James, great job.
Why does averyone have such a hard-on for this movie? It's all false hype.
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As an engineer, I always respected Cameron as someone who was a great engineer as well. In fact the opposite is true. You see, what a good engineer strives for first and foremost is laziness. With a little bit of intellectual effort the engineer tries to save on a lot of work later on for himself and others. Now Cameron does the opposite. He doesn’t have the skill to write an ingenious script with enticing characters and a thrilling story. Instead he’ll use a lot of manpower, time and money to come up with at best a very entertaining 150 minutes (nothing wrong with that btw). Put simply: no doubt it will be amazing but only because it will have cost 300 million dollars.
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Both designs are a bit meh.
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the dudes a serial monogamist for real, but no one's ever said jack about him beating women. also kinda hard to imagine given how much his movies worship women.
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I get it now, COCKNASTY. You're high-level autistic, right? What's that called, Asperger's Syndrome? That's what you are. You focus on something so intensely that you can't establish context. This is why you're so hyped up over the ship comparisons.
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that'll be why he wrote and directed an ingenious script with enticing characters and a thrilling story - The Terminator - for $6.5 million then?and of course, all those shitbombs of the past few years - spiderman 3, pirates 3, T4, etc. (all costing umpteen million dollars) were really amazing, weren't they?If you're going to do something, do it right. Don't gives us that waste of manpower nonsense. Creating a compelling alien world requires effort. Authentic depiction of the Titanic requires attention to detail and effort. these are neccessary for the story.
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and when the fuck does it come out?
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Someone 10 months ago started saying when you see Avatar on a true giant IMAX screen, not the thumb-dick LIEMAX screens, that the 3D will be fucking your eyeballs and that you will be shooting jizz out of your eye sockets. And that the movie will be so jaw dropping that dudes need to whack before seeing it so they don't blow a load in their pants, and that ladies need to wear extra padding because their box is going to get so wet.
But since then anytime you waste of cum fucktards see something 2D from Avatar you make lame comments about your eyeballs not feeling fucked yet. Well DUH!!!!!...........
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I liked the trailer ...
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Also, I stand by my comments that the majority of people on this talkback are one of two things:
a. jaded, pack-mentality hipsters
b. sixteen years old (or younger), and think they've got it all figured out
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Just sayin'.
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Pisses me off. I made mine for over $100. I at least tried to feed my cast and crew.
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Cameron's making ANOTHER movie about aliens and futuristic mech hardware? And he has the NERVE to use a blue tint again? WHAT A HACK! And why is he being so secretive? I can't believe he hasn't screened all the footage he's filmed so far so that we can give him our reactions and make sure this movie is exactly what we're expecting to see, with no surprises. It's not fair that I have to wait until the movie comes out to jump to a conclusion about the quality. I don't want to have to alter my opinion of this film after I actually see it, I should be able to judge this completely and accurately by the one-sheet (which is insider film lingo for "poster," in case you're a complete joe-moviegoer philistine.) This 3-D stuff is nothing more than a gimmick, too. If it's so revolutionary, then why hasn't he leaked a half-finished effects shot so that we can eviscerate the entire concept online and save ourselves the trouble of having to wait until it's actually in a completed state to render judgement? These palty concept paintings just show his contempt for our collective input. I know that the internet has made my opinion completely integral feedback to every step of pre and post-production process, and always results in a better movie that I don't have to bother actually seeing... why doesn't Cameron understand this?
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Then we punish him at the box office. We want 20 trailers now, or it's good night Jimboy!!!
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You're all missing the point here. Lets focus on the Mech's cockpit for minute. When Jake is exploring and traversing the Alien environment we'll get a first person view as If we're piloting the Mech ourselves. That's why the cockpit window is so big. It was designed with the audience in mind. From our perspective, it's going to be incredibly immersive.
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Dear Selfish Fag, Cameron does not want your useless opinion. He understands as any good artist or film maker does that you have to make something that YOU feel strongly about and most of all, you can't appeal to everyone. Especially whiny, snively little Americans who expect a Whopper their way. boo hoo.
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And is in it for the money. Need more proof then the shit that is Transformers?
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I couldn't agree more. LESS IS MORE. I'm fine knowing nothing about this movie. I avoid spoilers and hardly read reviews since they tend to have spoliers. Which is why I like seeing movies in the first weekend. I also don't take seriously some of the nonsense that's written here but there are some intelligent posts every other 10 or so.
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I couldn't agree more. LESS IS MORE. I'm fine knowing nothing about this movie. I avoid spoilers and hardly read reviews since they tend to have spoliers. Which is why I like seeing movies in the first weekend. I also don't take seriously some of the nonsense that's written here but there are some intelligent posts every other 10 or so.
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It will be better than most movies...and the mechs will be better than most mechs.
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ebonic_plague's post went right OVER your head.Well done, ep.
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Dear gullible third-worlder, thank you for making my post worthwhile. And they say Americans are the ones that are immune to irony... PS- What DO they call the Whopper over there?
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If that's not anti-semitic, than why mention Spiels is jewish? You numbskull.
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The second pic looks like the Kashyyyk stuff in "Revenge of the Sith".
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C A M E R O N blackening his wife's eyes in 2009.
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I guess now I know how Vern must have felt before people figured out his schtick.
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Fuck you Muhammad Ali!!!
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..TO WITHIN AN INCH OF HER LIFE, AND SHE WALKED AROUND WEARING THOSE GIANTIC SHADES FOR MONTHS? AHH, GOOD TIMES. RIGHT AROUND THE TIME HE WAS KICKING HIMSELF FOR MAKING SPHERE UNDER A FAKE NAME.
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Those Vern-style "irony traps" always crack me up.
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You magnificent bastard! Where the fuck is Chief Redcock?!
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i heard he used to have ultralight gliders outfitted with paintball guns and have aerial dogfights with his buddies. not making this up. and no one would operate the camera on the truck that follows the helicopter thru the underpass so he did it. and then there was the time he and his crew were going to get destroyed at the actual wreck site of the titanic but he piloted the ROV free and saved their lives. I mean fuck, he's J.C. you know? I will never, ever fucking forget the shot of him coming out of that pool at the end of a 12 hr shoot day underwater in the making of the abyss, watching dailies upside down in a decomp tank. And he's just this like unathletic nerd.
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is for all that intensity, he let's his women beat him.
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a suit from Fox comes to the Abyss set to tell him how he's doing things wrong after he nearly drowned that day, and he puts a helmet on the guy's head and cuts off his O2 while yelling at him. FUCK YEAH NO ONE HAS BIGGER BALLS. Can you imagine any of the fucking children populating big action filmmaking today even trying that? they'd have their lawyer send a letter first, and then explain at comic con why it was more in line with a reboot of the franchise not to tell the suits to fuck off but to embrace them and get pizza hut to have product placeement.
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ahahahahahahah....No I believe the joke is now on you!! If you've been reading these talk back the past couple of years you'd now that I'm probably one of the biggest deadpan smart asses here. Read again then partners. hahahaha. This is all as ironic as you say....
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Cameron worked on Piranha 2 for 6 days. Get your facts right.
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Cameron + Bale = Amateur.
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back = backs, now = know, deadpan = dead pan (two words), then = there. Sorry I read your posts, busted out laughing and couldn't respond fast enough.
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he's the only director that can film even a second of the Chuck Norris story without spontaneously combusting. and it is, in fact, what AVATAR is.
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somebody tell me, what has he directed that doesn't begin with an A or a T?
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Damn You Michael Bay
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**looks down at keyboard and sighs** Maybe tomorrow.
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The only thing that links T5 and Jim is the characters.. That should be quite obvious. Thats doesnt make him tied to the thing..
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# Battle Angel (2011) (pre-production)
# Ghosts of the Abyss (2003)
# Expedition: Bismarck (2002) (TV)
# "Dark Angel" (1 episode, 2002
Earthship.TV (2001) (TV)
# Piranha Part Two: The Spawning
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IS WHEN RIDLEY TOLD CAMEROON THAT HE WASN'T MAN ENOUGH TO MAKE FORBIDDEN PLANET.
CAMEROON IMMEDIATELY WENT HOME AND TOOK OUT HIS INADAQUECIES ON LINDA'S FACE. THE ENTIRE TIME HE WAS GIVEN THAT HAG THE SMACK DOWN, HE CONTINUED REFERRING TO HIMSELF IN THE THIRD PERSON; AS HE'S WONT TO DO WHEN AROUSED OR PISSED OFF:
"NOBODY TELLS JAMES CAMERON THAT HE CAN'T MAKE FORBIDDEN PLANET"
(SMACK!)
"IF JAMES CAMERON WANTS TO MAKE FORBIDDEN PLANET, JAMES CAMERON IS GOING TO MAKE FORBIDDEN PLANET"
(SMACK!)
"JAMES CAMERON CAN MAKE ANY FILM HE WANTS TO!"
(SMACK!)
"JAMES CAMERON DOESN'T LISTEN TO BRITISH HACKS LIKE RIDLEY SCOTT!"
(SMACK!)
"JAMES CAMERON HAS A MUCH BIGGER COCK THAN THAT BRITISH PRIT ANYWAY!"
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James Cameron don't fail me....
You've been on hiatus for FAR TOO LONG....
Don't fuck it up!!!
"WHERE THE FUCK IS KURT RUSSELL?"
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That's not what I heard...I heard he dangled that exec over the lip of the nuclear reactor by his tie. The guy came to the set and tried to give him a hard time, but Cameron got mad, and the guy tried to placate him "Calm down, Jimmy, calm down!" Cameron dangled this upstart over the edge screaming "I hate it when people call me Jimmy! If you come back to the set - EVER-I'll throw you over!" I also heard that he drove his ferrari round the interior walls of the reactor once it had been drained, though Cameron refuted this as "untrue, but a good idea."
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JC told the crew that if anyone needed to go for a piss during a shot then they could 'keep on walking'. And he wasn't joking. Apparently even Arnold, and we all know how professional and disciplined he is, described this as 'a little over-the-top'.
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May 28, 2009 5:01:41 PM CDT
THIS FILM WILL BE OUR GENERATIONS HEAVENS GATE
by jamescameron_strangles_a_bitch
PURE SHIT ON THE WAY IN 7 MONTHS TIME. BUDGET 240 MIL+, BOX OFFICE 120 MIL MAX. yOU LOOSE
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because of the giant words "CONCEPT ART" floating in the middle of the screen.
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You wrote, "The content [of the production art] is unoriginal, stale, and blatantly similar to pre-existing designs from other properties."
Hehe. It's funny how completely focused on this you are. Are you sure you're not high-functioning autistic?
I mean, what is Cameron supposed to do with copters and walkers that would meet your needs for original designs? Triangular walkers with dinosaur wings and purple polka dots? How about hamburger-shaped copters with 84 rotating blades like a Christmas tree? Would either of these meet your needs?
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Booyah!
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What a fucking moron. Where do these shitbags come from? I reckon they're employed by either McG, Ratner or Sommers.
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"It's the best movie ever made about killer flying fish".
And no, it was poolside and he slapped his helmet with its airtight seal on the dude's head. What Jim Cameron hates is anyone calling him JAMES. Only his parents get to do that. Everyone else calls him Jim. I swear to you some of these stories are true. -
It looks ok, but I miss pre-Photoshop concept work when you actually had to draw/paint everything.
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That he wants to be remembered for his movies and not beating women.
That ultimately he should be remembered for whats made it on the screen and not the hospital.
He feels pretty good about whats made it on the screen maybe not the editing room floor but ... people should forget about how he might enjoy beating women on a regular basis.
James Cameron professional wive beater. I mean professional Film maker... P.S JJ's Star Drek
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and jimmy james cameron was teabagging vasquez and ripley at the same time when mike beihn walked in on the scene, causing jim to lose concentration and arousal, however surprising jim enough he shot out one sput of jizz- which was caught on tape as the famous hicks-acid-face scene which was kept and written in at the last minute.
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Boy, you really raised the discussion level to new heights with that lovely observation, zom-bot.com. What, are you watching porn on your other monitor? Oh, you are? Ok.
Another thing to keep in mind: sometimes Jim Cameron (or people he knows) peruse this site. Now think about your comment.
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that during the filming of titanic cameron hired real immigrants to go down with a full scale version of the ship actually being filmed in real time in the ice cold sea. other reports say it took extensive dubbing and mixing to finally cover up the powerful laughter cameron bellowed during those scenes.
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You are the very definition of the word ignorance. Must be nice up there on that pedestal you have placed yourself upon huh?
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Ny reunion tonight...also watch NJ...its good..i fell like they're gonna start trading blows.
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so?- is james going to give me a job anytime soon? sue me for ridiculous slander? on a site where the OWNER uses phrases like 'chocolate covered pussy juice' and 'bowl of dicks' in his reviews of family movies? my off color joke is nothing compared to 99% of the smack people talk about here, which actually makes me feel childish for having written it.
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...I need a PUNCH line.
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That's true, zom-bot. Well stated. I'll leave it alone.
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All hail Cameron!
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i admit my crassness, and apologize. and now we both have to laugh that i use the movie reviews of harry knowles to defend my behavior as acceptable here....good god, why do we come here again? it's not for his opinion, that's for sure. i guess i come here to vent. i probably need to watch that.
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they just hate that they have NO REAL reason to critisize Cams. the truth is HE TALENTED AND HASNT MADE A BAD FILM.only terminator and true lies are oscar-less...hmm.all others have gold baby.
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Jim Cameron and Sean Connery walk into a bar... they sit down, order shots of Jamison, and start to play a drinking game called "Screw Hollywood." The rules: every time one of the players says or brings up the subject of sex or Hollywood, he has to drink.
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You arrogant Prick!!
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Top pic looks like the headless robot from T4. Cameron's living on past glory.
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Name one movie that does not reference things "similar to pre-existing designs". Nothing is TOTALLY original. If that's what you're expecting then you're dreaming.
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Actually, I've been taking detailed notes on your elaborately imperceptible sarcastic wit over the years, and decided to selflessly take this golden opportunity to provide you a set-up to demonstrate your subtle mastery of ironic wordplay kung-fu. And you did not disappoint. Socrates himself would be weeping tears of paternal joy if those Terminators hadn't been dispatched by Merrick to kill him. Honestly. I mean it. Yours was a brilliant post. Brilliant. Seriously. ... For me to NOT poop on.
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the star wars prequels were snuff films. i saw them kill millions of childhoods on screen.
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No need to apologize, actually, but thanks. My repressed puritan ways somehow manifested for a moment there. Yeesh... ugly.
Oh, and like you, I have no idea why I post here. It might have something to do with movies, but I'm no longer sure. Maybe it's to watch Harry's goofy graphics in the upper left-hand corner? That might be it. Oh, and also to feel the wrath of the internet skewing my reality.
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It shouldn't be derivative of anything else.
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Like, images projected on a screen to imply movement! How derivative!
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in the cockpit. Flashes of Lt.Hiram Coffey?
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is the gimmick of the 3d and filming in that process. the story, although cameron may tell better ones with better characters than most action directors- is totally backseat to this whole immersive 3D thing that everyone is just beside themselves over. THAT's what the hype is, i guess. not so much that the ideas or creations are groundbreaking (everything i have seen, from blue alien to mech has been a little tired looking- and if there is better stuff- throw us a bone! because what you have decided to tease us with certainly better not be anything we are supposed to get excited about!) but that the new technique will revolutionize filmmaking. and to that, i still say i'm weary. i remember how every next gen step in film is totally whored out in commercials and crappy movies afterwards for years and years. i can't wait to see how AVATAR changes film so that now we have to see a bunch of shitty kids movies, black/white buddy cop movies, reese witherspoon/jennifer aniston rom-coms, etc in glourious cameronvision.
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Adam Lucas thought he had carpal tunnel syndrome but then it went away and he ate some cake...true story.
Trailer here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN06-LzHGnU
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and why are other directors getting excited about it? because now they can either reboot, remake or recut (if possible) all their old properties in this new technique...and that's another way to sell us the same product over and over again, in this fancy new wrapper.
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I disagree that the designs are boring, and I don't care that they sort of look like something else. To me they look functional and badass, which is all I care about.
You're going to stick in the mud with your argument that they're too blatant a rip-off of some stupid GI Joe thing. Whatever. You can convince yourself how righteous you are, but you're wasting your energy and you'll miss all the fun.
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man, there's a lot of haters on this site... it's like vultures, circling, waiting for an tidbits of info to be dropped say they can dive in and be the first to say its shit... i always find that really strange with this website... it's like people actually want every movie to be shit... oh well, i think, Cameron's going to make a wicked a film... a trailer would be nice but then again, i knew nothing about the Matrix when I went to see that and it turned out to be one of the greatest experiences I've ever had in cinema... (the guy next to me started jerking me off but that's beside the point)
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tis true.
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at least tell me it was in Trinity scenes...and even WITH a guy masturbating furiously beside you, you still regard it as the greatest experiences you ever had in cinema?
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okay, i need to slow down, and take a break from this place for a bit
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we had to kick out guys for masturbating in the damndest movies. most of it was just to get the attention of people nearby and not in relation to the flick...so your joke- which i misread- totally didn't surprise me that much i guess.
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when i had to sweep up a grapefruit in the back row that a dude had been fucking while watching the 'little rascals' remake. frightening shit.
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Yeah, it is pretty similar. So what? You have to at least admit that it's an eye-rollingly nitpicky criticism, and if we all weren't obsessing to a ridiculous degree about this movie's potential to make sweet love to our eyeballs, based on third-and-fourth-hand internet hype, it would be a Comic Book Guy-level punchline. Personally, I blame Motoko. LOOK WHAT YOU HAVE WROUGHT!
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Just look at those two pictures. They clearly prove that Avatar will be the best movie ever.
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what on god's purple earth is it going to do to the rest of the openings on my face?
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wow a couple of pictures which look like star wars meets the terminator , i hope this film is actually good because we havent had anything any good since the matrix and bourne and star wars and rings films . Everything else has pretty much sucked .Thank god for battlestar galactica and even thats finished now :(
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Just remember...that I said it first.
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I know the original hasn't come out yet. But, this one promises to be darker!
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We see an alien on the bow of a spaceship with his arms outstretched? I would probably get up and leave the theater.
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because you know there will be all the ridiculous variants, hot-pink missle-firing, inaccurate, ugly, Big-Lots-bargain-rack-destined toys just like everything else. and we will probably see 'leaks' of said toys before we see any stills or trailer too.
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,immature little bitches? "WHAAAA! I dont know everything about this movie so it will suck!" "Whats with the secrecy?" "The designs are nt influenced by nothing, thus they suck!"...etc ad naseum. Please then do those of us that want to see an attempt at an original sci-fi action movie a favour and fuck off. Go watch whatever remake/reboot/sequal/prequal they are making that has 500 clips and trailers on the web so that you can basically have seen the movie before you go to the theatre. Some of us remember the good ol days and how it used to be. Cameron has my respect for keeping this so secret (old school baby) and for making sure its going to be a big suprise for audiances come Dec. And for not hyping the crap out of it with marketing for months before it comes out...
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combining those two words like that...What? Are you 12 years old? Thanks for proving my point so damn well just after posting it...
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The Avatard toys will probably be no different than a lot of those Hasbro movie toys. Like the Avatard Alien that has the action dribbles n' such.
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is an Avatard.
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The southafricanguy Avatard figure comes with spear chucking action and Aids.
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be revealed through us seeing toys first. But thats the way the industry works now. For studios to risk 200 mil+ on sci-fi they have to have merchandising to have as many ways of generating revenue as possible...its a necessary evil (blame Lucas if you must)
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for showing how stupid, ignorant, xenophobic and apparantly racist you are. Please enlighten me where you are from..or are you too much of a coward little boy?
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May 28, 2009 7:09:40 PM CDT
That grapefruit was no damned good...a bit on the seedy side
by alfie boy
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You can also get the two pack of southafricanguy and his missing father. **looks around the room and decides to "post talkback"**
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proven wrong by this being as good as some of us think it might be. Would love to see your 12 year old self on these talkbacks come Dec....
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I am from the Planet Cribton. I am about 10 of your years old and I fly around talbacks in my superhero Underoos laying words to waiste!!!
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because i am so that.
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I don't look like I'm 10. That's obvious by how my Underoos stop short of my calves and forearms. I'm just sayin'.
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that likes to hide behind his keyboard at his mothers house. Please...carry on showing what a racist little piece of shit you are....Big man huh? You can make fun of people dying from aids, and children with no parents you cunt, but you re too big a coward to respond to my question.....
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But man I wish he just would've filmed it live action!
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May 28, 2009 7:23:27 PM CDT
Underoo Hero...I think he's saying if you travel you'll meet Emi
by alfie boy
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lawless. like there was nothing she wouldn't do.
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When is Avatitanic coming out?
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50% cgi. Cameron has said that they will use minatures, and Stan Winston studios have admitted to doing practical effects for it. As for the cgi, there would be no way to pull off a lot of what Cameron has in mind useing practical effects....
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No! Of course not. First they had the Apartheid policy for eons. Then, after the Mandela return, black skinned South Africans attacked and took over the farms and estates that were owned by white skinned South Africans. All's hunky-dory there! That's why this southafricanguy can be real cocky, judgmental, and proud. Yeah!
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is a straight rip off of the Hornet from Halo 3....I mean, its identical
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hehehehe!
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Greetings my friend, I see you are engaged in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. LOL. Anyways, I like the art, looks cool, it's stuff like this that starts getting me excited for movies, like I said, I don't want to know everything about the movie, just enough to satisfy my geek desires lol. BTW bro, where are you from? I know you said so in another post somewhere I just don't remember.
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SHUT THE FUCK UP.
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AVATARD:"In a distant future, humanity discovers the planet 'Alpha Centauri B-4', and for those scientists and astronauts who've traversed the gulf between neighboring suns and arrived on its alien soil known as 'Pandora'."..........Wait a minute?!! Alpha Centauri?! Is this a remake of "The Last Starfigher"?!
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...THAT WILL MAKE THIS A FILM A FAIL TO END ALL FAILS.
IT'S THE UTTERLY PEDESTRIAN AND MORONIC STORY. OMFG.
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May 28, 2009 7:32:53 PM CDT
The Robinsons on Lost In Space were headed to Alpha Centauri!
by alfie boy
I knew that alien looked like a mutated Judy Robinson!
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AND THEN GIVE HER A STINKY PEAT. TRUE STORY, THAT.
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THAT ARE AS BIG AS A FUCKING HOUSE. INSTEAD OF SOMETHING MORE...UH....UH...UH....UH....
PRACTICAL AND SMART?
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We really should not be making fun of you, it is not nice to make fun of the mentally inferior people of the world, but you might be the one exception to the rule, only because you are so incredibly idiotic, so immature and so infantile that we have to make fun of you. Ok little boy, make sure to respond with bad words and dont forget, ALL CAPITALS. Fucking dumbass. LOL.
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'ole Jim'boy comes in and changes the game again.
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I have it for all sorts of purposes. It's handy for walking the dog and having a walkabout. It's also good for doing jumping jacks and eating cheese and crackers.
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It is an original story conceived by Cameron I believe, not an adaption of anything.
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is an all original story about "Titanic" and "The Last Starfighter."
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It will cook your chicken.
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May 28, 2009 7:45:01 PM CDT
Wow... Cameron is only 25 years too late on Battletech
by murdermostfowl
Ho Hum... don't get me wrong, I love J.C., but lets hope he aims a little higher than this.
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I think we all "NO" enough to "NO" that it does look like, Halo, Matrix, Terminator, Aliesn...that is the problem chief. The fact these designs are being recycled has nothing to do with who "NOs" about making movies. It has more to do with the fact they are not original. Know you "NO" ;o)
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Jewish people are renowned for earing and hoarding loads of cash...it seems fitting that speilberg would do the same once he could. It's only an observation...
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I think you should ease up on the South Africa rhetoric. You can disagree with southafricanguy all you want, but Nelson Mandela spending 27 years in prison and F.W. De KlerK finally lifting the decades-old restrictions on human rights in 1990, leading to a full democratic election in 1994, where Mandela was elected President was no small event, as you apparently know. Maybe you could show a little more respect.
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..AND IT'S GOING TO BE NOTHING BUT A DISTRACTION. OR A CRUTCH, IF YOU PREFER.
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DUDE! I know you love calling people out regarding all things film...but settle the fuck down. This is the second time i've seen you write like 10 posts in a row that accomplish nothing except making you look like a insecure tight wad. Just lay off...PS - I'd buy the toy of you w/ spear and aids.
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two such immature, ignorant, cowardly pieces of human trash. Alfie, you dumb fuck, it was in Zimbabawe (a whole other country) that white farms were invaded (guess they dont teach much geography where you come from..must be the US, could only be..) Why dont you two inbred, redneck hillbillies just go fuck each other and thus spare the rest of the world you reproducing anymore of your kind to pollute the world with...
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you are the one that always gets involved in other peoples fights. Sorry if I dont think making fun of people dying of aids and or children without parent is funny.
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yeah, its one of those days. Im from South Africa (obviously) but i ve been living and working in Japan and Korea for several years now...
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Got his potty mouth diatribes and "comebacks" from the 2001 version of the AICN "How To" Talkback Bible. **Looks at page 12 of my copy and sees his same words**
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He's even using my name for the crazy kilt wearer. That makes it 3 alternate identities & counting..
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Using capitals, check.
Ranting, check.
Slight evidence of mental retardation, check.
Uses the name I always use against Scotsman75 (Nonce), check.
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i really donrt know why you think im always really angry when i post. Dude, im useally just having fun, just hate ignorance and stupidity. I dont call people out unless what they are saying is factually bullshit (not opinion, just actual fact). So why do you always jump in and defend morons like Laser, underoo etc..? if my posts bother you so much, dont read them, they arent intended for you anyway....
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HOW MANY BLACK PEOPLE DID YOU BEAT WHEN YOU LIVED THERE YOU FUCKING PRICK.
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You can spell a bit better. Emphasis on the word "bit".
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i, on behalf of civilized people in America would like to apologize for these sophmoric cowardly Tbers. please understand that today was the last day of school in some parts and they're unhappy they got held back. and they're coming down off the adderol.once again i whole-heartedly apologize.
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you have a good point. If you have ever seen my posts you know i do just enjoy film debate. But when 2 ignorant (my pet peeve) fuckheads like that start making fun of something that is a really heartbreaking and real situation form where i come, then im sorry but i get a bit upset. I admit they pissed me off with that shit. Sorry if I offended anyone 9other than the 2 hillbillies)...
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I just found your last post, word for word in the 2001 AICN "How To" Talkback Bible. NO SHIT!! How do you copy and paste from a real book to a computer? That's crazy skilled.
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fuckem they're ignorant.
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fucking die
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any way. But fuck me, sometimes i forget that there are actual 12 year old that post their shit on these sites...
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I HAVE YET TO SEE ONE LEGIT DEBATE ABOUT FILM IN ANY OF THESE TB TRAINWRECKS. HERE'S A TYPICAL EXAMPLE FROM THE RECENT TREK TB:
DOUCHEBAG 1: I LOVE THE NEW TREK.
DOUCHEBAG 2: YEAH, IT'S REALLY NEAT.
DOUCHEBAG 1: YEAH, COOL.
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Underoos Hero = Underoos Hero. I always have been!! I don't re-name my self. hahaha As I said earlier, If you've been on these boards for the last few years you'll see know that I've been here.
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i knew you werent talking to me. we cool. some people's mommies needs to lock the computer when they go out tricking.
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Remember the other day when I was bothering with the loonie kilt wearer & you told me to just ignore him?
I think it might be best for you if you try the same. It's not so easy sometimes, is it? But you're the one getting annoyed. You're rising to their bait. Fuck them.
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you'll see AND know that I've been here.
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Yeah I like it when you contribute something worth while...which you do often. It's when you write like 10 posts in a row insulting morons like laserpants who don't deserve to even be noticed...This is a public forum...I can't help but read your posts, there are so many of them lol
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ARE YOU GIRLS HAVING FUN? BIG HUG AND LOVE FEST? FFS.
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Cool, how is it in the far east? I am from NY myself, never been much out of the country beyond the Bahamas lol. I can see the usual crop of retards are stalking the TB's tonight...ehhhhhhh.....this crap gets old real fast, but at least we have something to laugh at, even if it is pathetic lol.
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...when does the real Fucking start?
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You just said "WOW. A CIRCLE JERK RIGHT HERE BEFORE MY EYES."
You do realise the position that would put you in, don't you?
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I simply cracked some funnies at someones expense. Isn't that what life's about? Besides I wouldn't be Underoos Hero if I wasn't the champion at tugging on your shorts. You have to admit the Aids carrying, spear chucking southafricanguy action figure was pretty goddamned funny. Come one now...I see that smile.
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That's it?
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C'Mon now...to the count of three.
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Can we please bring the level of conversation up to non-retarded here? I'm tired of young-sounding rants and personal attacks. Not that AICN talkbacks don't often degenerate, but aren't there other things about "Avatar" to notice, skewer, or exalt?
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I have to hand it to you ... you're like the Mom of the group lol.
I hope not...videogames should be a seperate entity...none of this BS tie in mumbo jumbo. It cheapens the whole experience as its clearly a cash grab. I'm just excited to see how far Weta was able to push the miniature department past the remarkable work they did for King Kong. Weta Pandora Jungles and CG mechs? BRING IT. -
May 28, 2009 8:38:35 PM CDT
Cameron needs to learn the way of movie marketing in the age of
by mr. moe
We are spoiled little bitches who need our movies ruined for us long before its released. We demand to know everything NOW! Then after it is released we will proceed to bitch about how too much of the movie was revealed before the release.
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Did you happen to see Lucy Lawless in "Eurotrip"?
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Some folk shouldn't be allowed within 50 feet of a keyboard!
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I agree, rememberface. And right now I FEEL like the bitchy mother of this group! Hehe. Fuck it, who cares? I'm just trying to elevate the level of discussion a bit.
As to your points, I read WETA was using miniatures in production, which I'd love to see mixed with the 50% CG. The animators must've worked goddamn late hours, 70-80 hours a week, on the integration. I can't even imagine, especially with Jim Cameron pushing everyone to the limits of what's possible. I'm glad they went with Winston miniatures in parts, though. That'll ground the visuals a bit.
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was she hot in it?
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Yes, there will be one - supposedly some massive multi-player experience. In fact, it may even come out before the movie (as will the toy line). However, have no fear, Cameron isn't the Wachowskis - he's not going to compromise the story by dividing it between different media. You won't have to give a flying frig about the game if you don't care about it; all the story will be in the main movie. Maybe the game is set before the events in the movie, before humans came to Pandora? Who knows. Tellingly, he even says that he doesn't like the idea of sequels that have cliffhangers (ie. matrix, potc); that each film should be a self contained story. So that's not going to happen with Avatar 2 and 3 either.
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and she was
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Yeah I help teach Maya/Visual effects at a film school and I still am consistanly amazed at what studios are able to do. That's without Cameron at the helm. I can only imagine how freaking tough it would be to match his levels of passion and forward thinking. Its really easy to rely on tried and true methods...so Avatar is really exciting in that respect. really pushing the envelope. Mechs and Guns are certainly more attractive to this medium then some stupid sucken ship...even if the designs have been seen before.
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i lived in Zimbabwe in 1996 to 1999 and i can tell you this, you are the biggest coward in the talkbacks.
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whats a "sucken ship"? is that something you do to ur wife when the kids are asleep?
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Can I ask, rememberface: what software would a studio use (Maya, something proprietary) to create the world Cameron is envisioning? I know he's pushing the limits in almost every respect, but in theory could the studio use software you're familiar with? Do you think they did?
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May 28, 2009 9:21:24 PM CDT
Jesus, always the last resort of an Avatard
by jamescameron_strangles_a_bitch
Examples: "You shouldn't be allowed near a keyboard"...."Don't ever come to my country or I'll teach you some manners"....."Your a coward 'cause you didn't respond to my kneejerk bullshit remarks within three seconds"....."Don't you DARE question the genius of James Cameron or any of his films(Titanic?!)or I'll unleash a flurry of Grade 6 I.Q. comebacks about you sitting in your Mother's basement"....."I have a pretty good idea where you live"...."Waa, boo hoo, somebody thinks different than me so I must post ten fucking responses in a row to maintain my fleeting, failing, internet erection" Yes I'm talking about you, southafricanguy a.k.a. pathetic internet tough guy. Tell us all clown, please, do you put your wife through the drywall every second night like your hero James Cameron? Get over yourself. But then again, you still call black people kaffir down there don't ya? Give us a fucking break. Now, get back to gargling the Cameron seed, Herr Douche.
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Yeah, I was thinking a badass, but separate from the movie MMORG would be the best way to go with a game. Create the world, let people play in it. I think the Wachowskis and other directors learned from the cross-media pitfalls of the "Matrix" films.
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I don't really know exactly. I would imagine they have some versions of Maya/3DSMax/XSI etc floating around...but they probably look nothing like the ones you and I could buy. A ton of money is in R&D at the big houses like ILM, DD, and Weta...so proprietary software combined with really powerful live action practical effects really push the possibilities. One of our previous students is working at Weta now, I should shoot her an email haha.
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It is easy to see after reading the whole friggin line up:
-a bunch of you are really young
The movie will reward you for your hate; it will provide you with a reason to dream. Hate all you want, the story that James Cameron shares with you will be unique and excellent regardless.
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the film is still 7 months away. and you want to see the money shots NOW? the 2 pics above are just a tease, geeks. take it as it is. the eyeball fucking images will be revealed. i just hope i dont get to see them untill i'm firmly planted in the theater seat.
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Hehe. Dioxholster likes the sunken ship idea, I bet. He picked up pretty quickly on the "sucken" ship thing.
Thanks for the info about effects, though, rememberface. I have a friend who does animation for television in New Hampshire (way the fuck out, I know), but he uses Maya and XSI, and it's pretty fascinating. A ten-minute fantasy film he made, showing an armored, battleaxed gorilla fighting a giant robot kicked some serious ass. I was pretty impressed.
Anyway, as an animator it's good to hear your perspective. Good luck to your former student.
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Since everyones trading stories about him, I heard he met Charlize Theron once on the set of some film he was visiting and told her she needed to lose weight if she ever wanted to be in a film of his. She was deeply insulted but kept her mouth shut because he's James Fucking Cameron. Like a year later he was looking for an actress for a movie he was producing (Solaris?) and when Charlize came to the door he answered the door in his bathrobe and tried to seduce her before she left in tears. She told the story on Conan once but didnt specify what director it was.
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I didn't even consent to this!
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I love reading this thing.
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show me proof about James Cameron beating ANYONE, man or woman, please. let's lay this to rest. i don't care if its an article or a court document or some bs from TMZ..BACK IT UP. otherwise shut your mouth. and i mean that with all due respect, sir.
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Ah Winslet, she was nude so damn much in The Reader, I forgot what it was about.
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But as far as southafricanguy's statement that the invasion and theft of white skinned south africans only occurred in Zimbabwe is wrong, it did happen in South Africa as well after Mandela came back and "won" the presidency (as if it could have been any other way). As for cobbio, my friend, being truthful and accurate isn't disrespectful. Disrespectful is the anti-Americanism that showed itself. You want to talk some tough truth? Let's look at this afrocentric mind-fuck you're engaging in. About 150,000 to 200,000 years ago Homo Sapiens appeared in africa. Man, you africans had a head start on all of us, regardless of where we are today. Now, let's look at africa today (let's leave out the middle-East, which is also a part of Africa, in case your superior south african edumacation didn't cover that...may have been too basic for you brain surgeons). So, basically, let's consider sub-Saharan africa. Not a shining example of tolerance, education, health, peacefulness, or wealth, is it? Genocides run rampant. Rape and torture are commonplace. Fastest AIDS growth on the planet. The lowest life expectancies in the world exist there. WOW! What more could you ask for? Hey, book me a trip tomorrow! So southafricanguy, you and the other numbskull who claimed to be south african (I won't even dignify it with capitals) as well, you go right ahead slamming Americans. We'll enjoy the show you put on from where we sit here in EuroCentric America. I'm proud of it.
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stick to the movies. it's the only thing that we KNOW anyway. the rest are tabloid crap that we heard from somebody that heard from somebody else's auntie's friend's neighbor. after the tenth mouth, it wont be the same initial story. that's what mouths do. they exagerate.
but cameron could be the biggest asshole in hollywood, and as long as he makes great films, what the fuck do you care? is he your dad? does he infect you with hiv when he fucks actresses? so what the fuck do you care how he behaves in his private life?
you dig deep enough, dirt is going to crawl up on anyone. most of the best works are done by assholes in hollywood. skip their movies and see what you're left with.
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yeah i think its about nazis or something...they're trying to kill Hitler...OOH SHE"S NAKED AGAIN!!!
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and they're talking shit like there's proof. like he's chris brown or something. point is he probably is an asshole, i think you have to have a pretty big ego when it comes to directing, otherwise you end up with pap like T4. so he has an ego? big whoop. he also has a backbone and integrity. hes not pumping out shitty films every 2 years either, and thats not cause people and studios dont want to work with him.
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ONCE AGAIN, more proof of "No Weapons of Any Kind" Syndrome. These are so-called artistic pieces meant to represent the film ... and there's not a hint of "blazing action" as described by so many. There's a guy walking around (!) in an environmental suit mech-looking thing that looks as menacing as a Decepticon Moutain Dew Machine and a vehicle that looks like it came in out of AIR RAIDERS. Nice work, guys. I cannot - cannot - wait until you guys are all screaming about the lack of action and R-rated combat, how it's bloodless and tame, how it resembles TITANIC more than ALIENS, resembles THE ABYSS more than T2. Can't wait!
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Cameron has wanted to do this for like 10 years. I'm sure the development as changed over that time, so how old are they?
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My guess: Weta would use Maya as a base with a heavy dose of coding & proprietary software for many other bits. They might Nuke for compositing, although I think Weta is a Shake house(?).
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Can we stop the anti–South African screed? I mean, really—what's the point of that?
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when they attack big names, it makes them feel like they're a better man. "look! he shows his dong to a gorgeous actress! i wouldn't do thaaat." like you would even get a chance to be in the same room with a ugly actress, let alone a gorgeous one.
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Can we stop the Strangling a Bitch? I mean, really - what's the point of that?
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pride in your white view of the world. Good for you and your narrow world view. Also, thanks for making assumptions about me, but sorry to dissapoint you im not anti-american. Im on an American film site discussing American movies am I not? Would nt that just make me the worlds biggest hypocrite? Furthermore...unless you have lived in South Africa or can provide proof of what the hell you are talking about, then please dont attemmpt to lecture me about my country's history. Are you really that arrogant? Im also really sorry to dissapoint your precomceived ideas about Africa but while some of what you say is true in regards to many parts of it, its not true of it all. The problem is that you think its funny whats happened in Africa, and you have never been there, but you want to have these really strong opinions and go on about things you have neither seen nor experianced....
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Six Demon Bag, you're right. just because you dont see spielberg screaming "i'm the king of the world" on live tv, doesnt mean he doesnt say it to himself in front of the mirror everyday.
imagination got you a good story, but it's the ego that got it made into a film and onto the big screen.
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its quite funny this constant desperate attempt to trash Cameron so they have to make shit up to attack him personally. Sorry but where i come from thats really scummy....
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comments. You are at the least the really mature one here. I will try to follow your advice in future because you are right about not wasting my time with idiots like titbag, laser etc....By the way, ifn I can ask, since you teach fx, does a much longer post-production time like Avatar is having help with getting more photo realistic effects? And is it more cost effective?
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lecture me about racism? They still call people nigger in your neck of the woods right? You had segregation right? You had slavery right? So..seriously?
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bad today, and Im as guilty as anyone. I really let myself get sucked into having arguments with 12 year olds today....
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ive always wanted to go to NY. First stop for me if i ever get around to going to the States. I ve been really lucky to get to live and work in Asia, its really quite amazing here...
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oppertunity to live and work in another country, take it dude.
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You didn't start it, southafricanguy. The best thing to do is ignore the insane perverts who are obviously very easily entertained. This would explain their poor taste in film.
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healed the possessed man at Capernaum, healed that leper, overturned the moneylenders' stall, turned water into wine, and walked on water just before descending into it to explore it?
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May 28, 2009 11:26:04 PM CDT
Whatever happened to James Cameron and that Jesus Christ thing
by drturing
was he trying to usurp Jesus as the most famous man with those initials? http://tinyurl.com/335c9l
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really not sure what you having lived in Zimbabwe has to do with me. But I would love to have you expand on why im a coward. Last time i looked i was nt hiding my nationality, or not responding to simple questions. Nor was I the one making jokes about people dying of aids or children becoming orphaned. Im also not making up bullshit rumours about people that I cant back up with any facts. So im really confused as to how that makes me the coward....
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coward means....
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Don't sweat the bullshit; it's much ado about fuck all.I read the scriptment years ago. It was pretty damn long—I think over 100 pages(?). I'm sure a film like 'Avatar' requires a longer post–production because they're most likely inventing new techniques to translate those images from the page to the screen. It takes a HUGE amount of R & D
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to build an efficient workflow for untested production methods.
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if you see their posts, best to just IGNORE it. your reply will only help justify their existence. they're attention starved, those bunch.
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what he said
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...citing anonymous sources, that 20thCenturyFox to remake ALIENS!!!Was this posted on AICN and I missed it or what?
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southernafroboy was from South Africa? Dude are you still on this thread whining? Cause if you are, that's funny. **giggle to myself a little**
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infantile asshole? If you are, thats pathetic, **feeling great pity for the mentally handicapped**
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answering them does just validate their existence. But stupidity and ignorance just gets under my skin. Will just try to ignore it from now on.
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Please look at your talkbacks in the mirror....C'mon just do it. Hold your monitor up to the mirror and do it.
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scriptment was really long and dense for a scriptment. Im really curious to see how much of it has been changed, which going by certain details that have emerged, seems to be a fair amount.
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is Cameron's most effective? I'm partial to the "…I'll drown and you tow me back," scene in "The Abyss."
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art dude? Its interesting. I like that gunship design, though as this is just concept art who knows if what we are seeing is any indication of what we will eventually see...
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Do you see that part of your soul lost with each keystroke as you try... "To Be?" It's ok there little feller. It's just a talkback. On the internet. It's not real. No one's going to take anything from you. No one's going to hurt you.
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Perhaps a clip or two? Not sure what the sploogin is about. Looks like a certain winner the week it's released, but that's gonna be ALL.
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effective. But I would have to also go with Riply getting ready to go into the alien nest, both physically as she lock and loads and psychologically.
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laugh. Lets just quit hurling insults. Maybe I let a bad mood get the better of me. I guess you were just being a smartass in your own way. But just please remember that AIDS is no joke where i come from dude. Seen many people dying from it....
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Fair enough....You laughed....cool
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future war scene in T2 includong the haunting credits. Also like the bathroom shootout in TR, and the interrogation scene "Yes, but they were all bad"
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convo?
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Neo and Masterchief landed on the Wookie homeworld.
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marines in Aliens? Really good filmaking imho, i love how we actually see almost nothing, but due to clever use of the helmet cameras pov, and quick cuts, we imagine that we did...A really good example of less is more, and how implying violence and leaving it to the imagination is way more scary than any gorefest could be...
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that's what these pics look like. happy wanking all of you who are excited about this, pull your pud like there's no tomorrow.
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concept art?
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want to break my pud.....
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just a great set up and execution. Also, anything with Bill Paxton in that film.
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it does feel like a videogame (not necessarily a bad thing—videogames seem light years ahead of movie designs). It's obvious knowing Cameron's history, he will have thought about the practical application of them (environment weapons?).
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wish, that movies had that kind of energy and momentum? It kinda feels like the design stages of one of those promos. I think that's a good thing.
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i think the design will be good overall due to the concept artists they have working for them. Nevermind that Cameron and Stan Winston have always come up with cool designs working together in the past. Will be interesting to see all the gun designs, And especiallt the Alien creatures. Personally I think the Na'vi will be the most difficult to get right. Imho that will have to be a really badass design to make an audiance buy them....
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This concept art is meh to me. Show me Sam "the soon-to-be rich man's Jason Statham" Worthington in some promo pics at least.
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and momentum. It seems that Cameron will be going for anime style kinetic movement and action based on the old scriptment. He describes the mech armpir as being quite fast and agile (so no slow lumbering powerloader or APUs here). And the Na'vi are described as having the speed of a cheetah, while being very strong and agile. While there are all kinds of insane action described for the various alien creatures. Should make for some really sweet action imho...
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and momentum. It seems that Cameron will be going for anime style kinetic movement and action based on the old scriptment. He describes the mech armpir as being quite fast and agile (so no slow lumbering powerloader or APUs here). And the Na'vi are described as having the speed of a cheetah, while being very strong and agile. While there are all kinds of insane action described for the various alien creatures. Should make for some really sweet action imho...
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And, I don't want to be biased and say that Cameron will have a great story to brilliantly place these designs in a dramatic spectacle, without having seen the movie.But, I'd sure like it if he did that.
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I didnt realize that James Cameron was amking a Halo movie. I really wish that Sam Raimi asshole hadnt ruined spiderman. Cameron was supposed to have that project
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I disagree. T1 was great and done with a limited budget, but it was still very fx driven wasn’t it. And off course Cameron puts in a lot of effort, that’s exactly my point. Titanic was an amazing spectacle but can you remember a single CLEVER scene, line or character? Celine Dion!!!!!!
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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XhAzekAG0tg/Sf7uX33Yr4I/AAAAAAAADEM/KOown-3fVLo/s1600-h/Syd+Mead%27s+Power+Loader.jpg
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spiderman movies, but we can only imagine what we would have gotten with Cameron's. Did you read his spiderman scriptment assclown?
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I'm being to harsh. He did write Strange Days, which was pretty great. Still, I would really impressed if he could do waht Scott did with Matchstick Men
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I'm being too harsh. He did write Strange Days, which was pretty great. Still, I would really impressed if he could do waht Scott did with Matchstick Men
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It seems like the same people complaining about "all the hype" are the ones asking where the trailers and posters are. There is no hype on this film. None. Not a bit. Not a hint. Cameron's done nothing to hype you up. Any excitement you're sensing is generated by fans, which is not "hype." Cameron's smart enough to know that if he spends a year building up his return to film with trailers and teasers and stills, he's setting up massive expectation. No hype is the way to go, and he's playing it right.
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Exactly, Moriarty. That is exactly what I said earlier. However, there are some very thick skulls on these talkbacks.
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...about AVATAR. Judging by this TB, sounds like its gonna be incredible. Is it better for me to see it "cold", or should I read up on it? If so, shere to start? Suggestions?Anyone?
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and I never said I had any proof of that happening. I was just adding to all the other stories. I'm personally a big fan of Camerons and like all of his films with the exception of Titanic. He's definitely an asshole btw. Listen to the stories of him on the set of The Abyss. He sounds like a complete fucking tool. Like you said though most filmmakers are assholes so I don't really hold it against him.
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Can't wait. Scifi is my favorite genre. I hate Startrek (SERIES) but will smoke weed with some alien, Terminator, Predator, Sunshine, 2001 Space Odyssey, Total Recall, Matrix 1, RoboCop 1... Bring model building and the F bomb back to the movies please!!
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I missed all the fireworks going off in here.
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Where there everything was love and brotherhood. Here is a flamewar of epic proportion.
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What hype?Outside of here nobody's heard of this fucker.
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—but, we we're on the topic of favourite Cameron scenes. Have you got any?
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Well the major reason this is taking so long is the fact that its stereoscopic at huge resolutions. Another reason is that it has to be composited with many elements and "render passes"...meaning color/specular/diffuse/shadow/zdepth/reflection information etc...all each at Imax size...mixed with live action - miniatures - matte paintings. Rigging of high resolution photo real characters also would take tons of time...trouble shooting tech issues with what will obviously be TONS of effects work all takes time. They could rush it...but for it to stand the test of time like the t1000 etc takes so much work. Well worth the wait. Costs more.
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maybe the harrier jump jets blowing up the florida keys bridge. Or...the scne with ed harris trying to resuscitate that "bitch" in the abyss
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Bullshit. How about sending Harry a letter comparing what he's doing to the first landing on the moon? Or the strategically placed photo ops with Spielberg and Jackson? Or sending out footage to other film-makers so THEY could start hyping the film? Or the countless articles about Imax 3-D that all make sure to mention AVATAR? Or the press that comes with Imax showing the movie for three months up until Burton's ALICE IN WONDERLAND? Or, what about the TV segments he's already been doing about Imax 3-D? Yeah, I'm sure you'll say that HE doesn't have anything to do with any of this stuff. Which means you're either ignorant to how films are marketed (not likely), or, you've already made the decision to like this film no matter what just because of the technology and the fact its Cameron like some of the other people here. Also, if people here are excited for this movie and are saying things like it will "fuck your eye balls" uh, that's hype, my friend. Because NO ONE here has seen any footage of this thing yet. So, for anyone to make an opinion about this, especially a positive opinion, is hyping it. They're boosting it up on a pedestal without informed critique. Oh, I'm sure you've got excuses for all this, you always do. But the fact is that YOU and others here have already made your opinion about this movie, whether you want to admit it or not. You're lovin' this no matter what. No matter what is released, you'll be reccommending it ...hyping it up. That is even more irrational then having negative thoughts about it already. Because the negative opinions about this film come from the hype generated by you and others here for remaining positive no matter what, even though you haven't seen anything about it yet either. That is hype. Go ahead, talk me down. Say I don't know what I'm talking about. This idea that positivity automatically means more realistic and negativity automatically is suspect is bullshit. This movie doesn't say anything new. It cost thre-hundred million to make. That's absolutely ridiculous. Its being toted as the new age of cinema, without anyone having seen it. That's hype.
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Two things pop to mind:
"Aliens" when Sigourney Weaver finds Newt and finally runs into the Queen Xenomorph: I just love how their was no music, just breathing, the gelatinous sounds of the queen laying eggs and the hum of the torch. Fucking great suspense scene.
The other one isn't a scene, it is my favorite story (I don't know if it is true but it is apocryphal): when Cameron was working for Corman on Galaxy of Terror (I believe that was the movie) he was doing 2nd unit and he was shooting some worms in a dish. Now the scene required that the worms writhe and wiggle, but the worms were not going along with the plan, so Cameron had them hook up some wires to the dish and a car battery, so when he gave the command they could shock the worms into movie.
It just so happened that Roger Corman was walking around that set that day and came upon Cameron working. He watched as Cameron ordered action and suddenly the worms started wiggling.
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DannyGloversDickBlood and his followers are starting to destroy these forums.
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May 29, 2009 3:45:10 AM CDT
It's amazing how many pathetic motherfuckers...
by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for
are on this TB. Bitching and moaning about nothing. Just like me, you guys know fuck all about this flick. You may have read a treatment that's over 10 years old. You've seen a couple of pics showing Cameron pointing. You've heard other directors say they've seen footage. And now you've seen two pieces of concept art. That all adds up to not very much. This flick has had no hype. I'm amazed it hasn't since the marketing machine on these types of flicks is usually annoyingly invasive. So far, it's all fanboy bullshit. The fuckwit that came up with the eyeball fucking thing needs to have his head caved in because it's just started a fucking mimicry by the dumbshits that frequent this site. You cunts need to get over your petty anxiety about something new. I know different scares you, but you can always count on another Star Trek or Terminator to come out to placate your little minds.
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think of the concept art?
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agree with every damn point you made. Really wish this eyeball fucking thing would stop now, it stopped being funny last year already. And at the end of the day you are right, wether positive or negative the simple fact is that we dont really know what this movie is going to be. Which actualy is the best thing about it all so far imho...Love how there is no hype...Agree with Mori too...
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advertising the shit out of this movie, and putting out 10 different trailers months before it comes out is damn clever. Cameron just seems to be sticking to the age old truth of underpromise and overdeliver...
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I wish Harry would stop pimping the fuck out of absolute shit like Twilight, but we don't always get what we want.
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blow water out my nose.....sorry standundermyumbrella, you seem like a really nice guy, but lets be realistic my friend. Sometimes there is hardly civility or manners in these talkbacks, and you want to complain about swearing?
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are your thoughts on this concept art?
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—“…The fuckwit that came up with the eyeball fucking thing needs to have his head caved in…”Man, that droid is all outta bubble gum.
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A V A T A R - Fucking your eyeballs in 2009.Nothing else matters.
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Production art looks promising. Especially the winged creatures vs gunship illustration. I'm starting to picture immense Cameron action sequences now. The Art of Avatar is a must-own I reckon. What do you think of it?
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It's a joke dude. Relax. Maybe he gives his wife the odd backhand or two though. It may elevate to a punch if he's wearing his 3-D glasses. Who can blame him after all, the man is under constant pressure.
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You don't know shit from good chocolate baby.
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It was a joke once. Not funny when you do it 100 times though.
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Don't blame DICKBLOOD, he appears to be one of these ship-jumpers as well.
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Instead of Harry changing his site to suit your needs, how about you fuck off to IMDB where you can give your PG13 mates handjobs while discussing how 'cute' the guy out of Twilight is and how 'neat' it would be to suck his 200 year old cock.
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you talking about dude? What exactly do i not know how to tell is any good? Please enlighten me...
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appear to be fairly real world looking. Also dig how they are nt overdesigned like Bay's transformers, or too fantasy looking ala Gundam. Whoever the guy was above that said the mech armour looks like something from battlemech he was dead on, no bad thing imho. I loved that cartoon show as a kid (yes i know it was an rpg, but the cartoon was my only exposure to it), always thought it would be col to see something like that done live action...Think the gunship has a nice anime futuristic look. All in all I like what i've seen so far....
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Interesting premise, although the whole "plugging in" thing sounds very Cronenberg-ish. Its also pretty hard to imagine anybody other than Sigourney Weaver in that role, too.
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May 29, 2009 6:33:52 AM CDT
Het southafricanguy...claim you're not anti-American all you wan
by alfie boy
but you're the one who made the statement that an ignorant comment is assumed to be one that comes as a result of American education. Stuff like that is what gets people started. So, who's the bigoted thinker? Thanks for acknowledging that what I stated contained the truth. And remember, just because someone hasn't lived or visited that that slime pit aka africa (BTW, yes, I've traveled there), doesn't mean they can't comment on it, or learn about its sad, depressing history. By that definition, you'd avoid visiting a celebrated oncologist because he or she never had a bout with cancer. You're a dope.Oh, yes. Sorry to disappoint, but I'm still proud of what the Eurocentric world contributed to civilization, thank you very much! Keep your tribal mentality. It makes it that much easier to work around y'all.
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"What exactly do i not know how to tell is any good?" I don't really understand what your trying to say there. That's neither here nor there. Enough of this negativity shit. Let's bury the hatchet. Here's what I think of Cameron's films, please feel free to verbally sodomize me for my opinions.
THE TERMINATOR: Perfection. ALIENS: A good action film but ultimately overshadowed by Scott's brilliant first film.
THE ABYSS: Groundbreaking effects work with compelling drama. Plus, it's got Ed Fucking Harris.
T2: At the time, amazing. Now, it feels dated. Kristen Stewart is taking over for the always annoying Ed Furlong in the remake.
TRUE LIES: Entertaining. Not much else. Tia Carrera is goofy looking. I may or may not have tugged one out to Jamie Lee Curtis`striptease, we`ll leave that one to the ages.
TITANIC: Winslet is a fucking star for a reason. The sinking of the boat was nifty. The two hours leading up to it were not. But I`ll tell ya, Billy Zane hamming it up makes the time pass quicker.
That Bismark shit he had on The Discovery Channel was actually damn good.
Avatar: I`ll reserve judgement until I`ve ACTUALLY SEEN THE FILM.
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May 29, 2009 7:32:59 AM CDT
I've yet to get a good mechwarrior movie, and if Camron is servi
by fireclown
For the life of me I don't know why there hasn't been an ass whoopin' mecha movie made. We all love giant chicken legged, ERPPC firin' powered armor suit stompin' mechs. And the magnum opus of the genre was Robot Jox. Now, RJ gets mad props for trying, but it really was atrocious.
If the worst that comes out of Avatar is my Mech movie done by one of the great big budget SF directors in history, that's great by me.
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Yeah, agreed, all in all it has a good vibe. Thought the environment might be a bit more otherworldly but I guess it's only two pics we've seen so far.
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Otherwise he would know that his Eurocentric world contributed to, and in many cases actually *created*, some of his problems with Africa.
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Have gone blind! You want to argue your opinions so much its blinded you to what we used to be. I can't find a single mention of this anywhere. What the hell is that turtle like thing that seems to be holding on to/attacking the flyer in the background of the first picture?
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Hey, man. GREAT points. I've been trying to make those points all along. This movie is ALL ABOUT HYPE, with no facts to back it up. And a lot of the hype is deeply irrational. "It's gonna be full of action!" No, it's gonna be PG-13 and feature mostly bloodless alien bodies disintegrating - wasn't that what people griped about a few years ago with MUMMY RETURNS? "It's gonna be amazing 3D eyegouging!" Wasn't that what some people said about MY BLODOY VALENTINE 3D? Ultimately, 3D is one trick - things flying at your face. Now, sure, I'm gay, but I don't enjoy that every minute of the day.
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"JAMES CAMERON WILL MAKE ANY FILM THAT JAMES CAMERON WANTS TO."
"JAMES CAMERON HATES THAT FUCKING BRIT PRICK RIDLEY SCOTT"
"JAMES CAMERON WILL ONE DAY MAKE FORBIDDEN PLANET. AND IT WILL BE CAMERONTIZED! TAKE THAT, RIDLEY, YOU FUCKING PRICK."
"JAMES CAMERON LIKES PBANDJ, JUST LIKE THE KING."
"JAMES CAMERON LOVED THE NEW TREK AND CONSIDERS JJ THE NEXT JAMES CAMERON."
"JAMES CAMERON NEVER BEAT LINDA HAMILTON. EXCEPT WHEN I'D HAVE TO TELL HER SOMETHING TWICE. THEN IT WAS SMACK DOWN TIME. FUCKING BITCH SHOULD NEVER MAKE JAMES CAMERON REPEAT HIMSELF." -
"JAMES CAMERON WOULD LOVE TO GIVE THAT PRICK RIDLEY SCOTT A STINKY PETE."
"JAMES CAMERON LOVES ROBOTS."
"JAMES CAMERON TOLD ED HARRIS THAT JAMES CAMERON'S COCK WAS BIGGER, AND BOY WAS JAMES CAMERON RIGHT."
"JAMES CAMERON NEVER MET AN ORIGINAL IDEA IN HIS LIFE, BUT FUCK YOU. I'M JAMES CAMERON."
"JAMES CAMERON ISN'T ABOVE GIVING THE OLD WIFE A BEAT DOWN WHEN HE'S FEELING A LITTLE BLUE." -
"I LOVE CUM IN MY MOUTH" "I LOVE CUM ON MY FACE" "I LOVE CUM IN MY ASS" "I LOVE CUM ON MY BACK" "I LOVE CUM IN MY HAIR" "I LOVE CUM ON MY NECK"
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i respect your thoughts on waiting to tell how you feel about AVATAR until it actually comes out. a lot of people around here are MISTAKING absense for sucktitude. Cameron, if hes anything, is meticulous and persistent in getting his vision perfect on screen. although there is at this point virtually no hype for AVATAR i cant wait to see it, going off Cameron's record. peace.
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May 29, 2009 9:22:39 AM CDT
Ha! Yeah I did forget that one.
by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for
I'll add it to the list.
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"JAMES CAMERON USED TO LOVE TO RUB ONE OUT IN THE DIP BOWLS AT THE CREW CRAFT SERVICE TABLE ON THE SET OF ALIENS WHEN THEY WEREN'T LOOKING. THOSE FUCKING PRICKS; DOUBTING JAMES CAMERON AND JAMES CAMERON'S TALENT."
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...REFERS TO HIMSELF IN THE 3RD PERSON ALL THE TIME. IT'S FUCKING AWESOME AND IS THE MARK OF TRUE GENIUS.
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He couldn't bring himself to beat his wife, but Titbag sure got the Linda Hamilton treatment.
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He goes into a grocery store, drops his pants and pumps a cucumber in his ass.
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Pretty much agree with your views on the films of Cameron. Good show.
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Impossible to have a conversation these days.
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What do you wanna talk about?
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May 29, 2009 10:23:41 AM CDT
The Abyss is probably my favorite Cameron film if I'm honest
by stuntcock mike
Michael Biehn is batshit nuts, Ed Harris, yeah, my favorite for sure.
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...that this movie can live up to the geek-hype. Cameron's gonna have to shit gold bricks to make this as good as some are expecting. I'm hoping for the best, but I expect something as flaccid as Watchmen.
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Just fed up of wading through lines and lines of shit to find a semi-intelligent comment.
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The Abyss is my fave too. Ed Harris is incredible in it. Anyone going to the 70mm screening and Cameron Q&A in Santa Monica tonight?
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You sound all angry at life and shit.
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AND THAT I LOVED HIS WORK IN SPHERE AND AND LOVED THAT HE HAD A MOMENT OF SILENCE AT THE OSCARS TO CELEBRATE HIS DIVORCE FROM THAT WENCH LINDA HAMILTON.
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WE CAN'T FORGET THAT. I'M DYING TO KNOW IF IT WAS AS JUNGLY AS THAT HORRID CONCEPT ART ABOVE.
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The fucking mech looks like it's going to fucking explore something, not open up whoopass on Xenos. And the ship looks exactly like the ship from Aliens, you knowz the one.
That mech looks like it is there to peacefully explore???wtf??? It has what MIGHT be some ammo, MAYBE, but what if theyre like rubber bullets for peaceful riot dispersion or something? This is Cameron, so expect preachy shit and "Terminator's in non-kill mode" bullshit and probably fucking Newt shit too.
Newtsie Cutsie bullshit. Fucking fag pteryodactyls and newb aliens flying them, whooly fucking ass balls James!!!!!!!!
Let's go peacefully explore in 3d! And before any fucking fag in here whines about there being missles on the ship, THEY WON'T BE USED, or if they do get fired, nobody will die it's pg-13 nilly willy fucks! -
The same dunderheads are bitching how no one has seen anything to warrant the anticipation or expectation of greatness for this film...yet they see a few panels of concept art and declare the movie to be shit. These talkbackers are doing us all a service by taking the proverbial giant step forward with hand raised and saying "YES, I AM AN IDIOT".
Have you seen some of the concept art for Star Wars? Great stuff for the most part but gave you NO INDICATION WHATSOEVER as to what you were in store for on the screen.
And let me cut you off right here and now...NO, THIS WILL NOT BE THE NEXT STAR WARS. If it is... great. I would be happy for a ride equal to ALIENS or The ABYSS. -
What you phail to see, kind sir, is that it's not the QUALITY of the art but the INTENTION of the concepts. The art for SW showed cool ideas, this is a pg-13 TUROK: DINO HUNTER anime movie in 3D.
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Assbag. What are you...12?
Sure the kid was cute but was way more than that. It was about the fear of a child, protecting the weak, motherhood, laying your life on the line for something more than yourself.
Ripley's look of grim determination as she's loading her weapon going up in that lift...and appearing in that mech loader and saying "Get away from her you bitch!!" gives me surge of emotion every single time I see it! Honestly one of my favorite moments in all of film. Pure, raw instinct of a mother protecting her child... mom-o e mom-o if you will.
But I guess you would rather have Ripley just blow Newts head off the moment she see's her...yeah dude that would be rad! Nuance.
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Matrix Mechs will be better than Cameron mechs. WHY>? Because the Matrix Mechs shoot stuff.
Matrix worlds (machine village) are cooler than Florida. Why? because you can already go to Florida.
Matrix Cornball scenes will out do AVATARS. Why? Because I would rather see a stupid underground rave dumbfuck scene than hear Cameron's environmental agenda.....again!
Matrix action scenes will be better than AVATARS. Why? Over the series, matrix has shown us some great action scenes, cult classic scenes. They don't have to rely on the gimmik of 3D to do a good scene, I'M LOOKING YOUR DIRECTION CAMERON
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"But I guess you would rather have Ripley just blow Newts head off the moment she see's her...yeah dude that would be rad! Nuance. " .....
If that meant exploring the crazy alien ship of the Space Jockey's and actually delved into what we all kind of wanted in the movie, yes I would assume that would have been a better choice. See Below
EXT. DAY - Colony Room
Ripley: Hey, there's this kid under the floorboards, probably a Colony survivor.
Lance Henrickson: The Colony database shows that Pumpkin Head on BluRay is a great ride.
Ripley: Lance, your right, I'm pretty bored too. I say we just kill the kid, and then use my NOKIA™ phone to remote pilot the ship down here. Then we head out and see what we really wanna know, where dis these alien fuckers really come from? Who are the Space Jockeys?
Bill Paxton: Assholes and elbows guys, we're going to Alien Homeworld!
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BUT YOU FORGOT THE PART WHERE CAMERON YELLS 'CUT MOTHERFUCKERS'! SO THAT HE CAN ASK SIGORNEY MORE PROBING QUESTIONS ABOUT HER SUBSTANTIAL BUSH.
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It "should've, could've" scenarios are useless to me. Monday morning QB stuff.
Matrix Reloaded "would've been better with werewolves and vampires.
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I think it will be good but that robot looks like the one from T4.too. I hope it has soul.
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I'd rather hear Cameron's environmental agenda (which I've never heard before anywhere anyway) in a sci fi movie context than to have tv networks, actors, pop-stars and politicians force feed me their cherry picked theories 24-7. Can't even watch Sunday night football without enduring Bob Costas and co. broadcast in the fucking dark because GE is "going green" for the night. Wow. How glorioulsy meaningless.
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you are the devil's child!
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Hmmm. Ripley, mother whose daughter died while away, becomes a surrogate mother to a young girl. This is what inspires her to fight and confront the aliens. The mother instinct.
The Queen Alien. The ultimate mother, dedicated to spawning as many of her progeny as possible. She is also motivated by her mother instinct - revenge for the destruction of her offspring.
Mother vs. Mother. Hmmm.
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...you're my favorite turd.
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YOU FUCKING PONCE BASTARD.
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Oh, man, you ever get a chance rent it. It is Jack Nicholson in his prime playing a Navy sailor on shore patrol, dropping more F-bombs that anyone in movie history.
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TITBAG = SCOTSMAN = ranting drunken dickhead
DarkShite you ghostbusted this buffoon before... your patented brand of cutting-edge derision is needed again.
Just remember, don't cross the streams (of Scottish piss).
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Does TITBAG = scotsman75 = lobo-tor?
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Don't want to imply you guys are the same. Not very professional of me...
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Possibly Conti...
If lobo-tor was mentally retarded, alcoholic, and knew nothing about film then yes... I think a connection can be made. -
So I think he fits the same mental stability as our caps lock friend.
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what does that tell you?
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SDB, that you really like birds?
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no the bird was a better written character. more emotion in the first 10 mintutes than anything T4 attempted. sad.
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great info on the last detail and jack's start.
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The entire book is about everything I love: great films, sex, booze, coke, drugs and people fucking loosing it.
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WHY CAN'T YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THIN PASTY WHITE FAILED SCREENWRITER SKULLS. FFS.
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TO RAISE YOUR HANDS, WILL THE SUN BE BLOCKED OUT YOU FUCKING COCKHOLES.
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Didn't he say he was a police officer? And that's why he knew how to find us all and beat us?
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The Scottish wino has had more comebacks than Sinatra.
Everytime he's unmasked as a nonce he does a Dr.Who and shows up with a new identity.
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talkbacks degenerate into talkbackers just hurling insults at each other (which unfortunatly I got sucked into).
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I don't think TITBAG is lobo-tor. Both guys are insane, but I will give TITBAG credit, he is at least coherent compare to lobo (and I am still waiting for him to come fuck us up, Vader).
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problem with you at all, and never had. You seemed to just get really pissed off/offended by some things I said while fighting with someone. I totally respect your opinion dude. Everything you said was fair and well thought out. I dont totally agree with your assessment of things, but thats cool, we dont have to agree 100%. And your wait and see policy is the best approach to these kind og things imho....
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"No *#@!!* Navy's going to give some poor **!!@* kid eight years in the #@!* brig without me taking him out for the time of his *#@!!* life."
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THE WALL OF ASSRAPE!
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is right that you dont know much about Africa as you seem unaware that much of its problems have been caused by Europe's past actions. And if anyone is anti anything its you pal...as in anti-african. Sorry to ruin your paranoid theory, but im really not anti-american, many of my favourite things are american (movies, music etc..) so keep believing that if it makes you happy. And keep believing in your Euro superiority if it helps you sleep at night
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missing each other lately. But I would love to hear your thoughts on T4....
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cartoon from the 90's...?
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Yes. What hype? All the instances TopHat mentions in his post I only know about cos I read AICN fairly regularly. Billy Moviegoer doesn't read AICN. He only knows what's on at the cinema when the ad runs in between his favourite telly show, or when he glances through the 'Entertainment' section of the paper, or sees a full page blurb in a celebrity magazine.We're in a minority on here; Billy Moviegoer is the majority. And he knows fuck all about Avatar because there's been fuck all about Avatar. Only on here. Hence, no hype. As yet. When it gets out to the public then the hype machine begins.Furthermore, I haven't already decided to like Avatar. If the film is shite I'll say so. But is it okay if I look forward to it? Cheers, I will then.
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AND COMPARE NOTES ON HOW TO PROPERLY PUT A HAG IN HER PLACE.
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THAT makes you giggle???? The fact that I had to write that?? LOL you truly are 12 years old!
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THE LASH!!!!!
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whats up..yeah i saw all that this morning. some people can be real pricks and you have to call them out sometimes. but yeah you have to draw the line at some point. otherwise you just go in circles, as with the case with laser.
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No worries man. I was out of line as well. I sit here and read two hundred posts non-stop and get all worked up. I was tired. Let's put it this way, TITBAG was starting to make sense. That's when it's time to step away from the computer and take a break, lest we descent into full-bore madness. I just find it nuts that a lot of guys are saying how this is going to be the end-all be-all of films, that's a let down waiting to happen. Just let the magic unfold.
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Jesus would run screaming. True story, that.
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A character in an exo-suit walks into the frame for a few seconds, and then the movie cuts to Rick Asley's video for Never Gonna Give You Up.
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is pretty decent,but MAN! that one pic of that terminator-looking guy,with the DODGY RUBBER HEADS-looks utter shite!!
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Bonus points if it's in 3-D. I'd buy that for a dollar!
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How are ya bro? Going to see T4 tomorrow, honestly I would rather see Up (not that I don't wanna see T4 mind you, I am just a huge Pixar fan), but I gotta wait til I have my kids next weekend, they will crucify me if I see Up without them.
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or are you just born that way
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Gee. I see trees. And some weird robot aliens. I can see this movie's gonne be original.
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saw UP today...its great but i dont reallt think kids will enjoy it. there are some kid moments but the first 10 minutes are heartbreaking. i think parents, if they are up to the challenge, will have to explain a bit on this one. THIS IS NOT MINDLESS PAP! enjoy nonetheless.
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I hear ya, my kids are pretty good at understanding things, they unfortunately had to go through the ordeal of their Grandfather dying about a year and a half ago, so they understand a lot, but being the Dad that I am will gladly explain anything to them that they need to know. Good to hear that Pixar is still the model of quality and consistency in Hollywood, no other studio can make that claim. Hell no one in Hollywood period can make that claim.
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It smells like crap
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This movie is gonna be a classic. You gotta remember that Mr. Cameron is a perfectionist. And when it comes to making movies that's a very good thing.
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BigBlackDude, i'm picturing you with the deep voice and looking like the "Give it to me - you can tell them I took it by force" guy from DARK KNIGHT that chucks the detonator off the ferry. Am I close, or are you in fact a slight white chap?
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BSB bro, I name-checked you in the Alien reboot tb... it seemed appropriate at the time....
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Actually that "give it to me" guy from Dark Knight was actor Tiny Lister. I think I'm a little taller than him and unfortunately a little fatter. But you got the deep voice part right. It's usually referred to as Vader-esque.
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yeah i saw someone complain in another tb about their children getting bored in ratatouille..sad. pixar is now synonomous with excellence in my household.
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Really? My kids have seen every Pixar movie and have not been bored by any of them. Even Wall-E which I was told a lot of kids did not like, they loved. My kids don't need movies made for ADD kids ya know, they are smart and appreciate good things. Of course, they do like stuff that makes me vomit, but hey they ARE kids after all.
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Got an extra ticket? Seriously, someone take some notes or something! And ask JC what he thought of the new Terminator abortion. Or if Avatar will REALLY be fucking our eyeballs out this X-mas?
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BigBlackDude, yeah Tiny Lister - never knew his name before - but remember him from TRESPASS, fucking classy little action flick from years back.
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As in FRIDAY, "It's MY bike now!" Debo is actually a verb among me and my friends. "I'm about to Debo one of your beers."
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2 weeks after this movie debuts- the kids will say "AVATAR is so millionth of a second ago" and producers will want to remake it. "This is not your father's AVATAR" will be the new new movie's slogan.
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I'm the same way. i'm usually chomping at the bit to see these films but my wife and 5 year old would have my head if I went without them!
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wake me when it's over
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May 29, 2009 6:37:41 PM CDT
D. Vader...only self hating Euro's would make a statement like y
by alfie boy
africans can blame themselves for many of their problems. For centuries before Euro's came into the picture, they were capturing and enslaving each other and passing each other off as slaves. In the 17th century, the slave trade was primarily fueled by black skinned africans rounding up other black skinned africans and selling them off to European and Asian traders.
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are dead wrong about invasions of white farms happening in SouthAfrica. There were a few cases of squatters trying to just live on white owned farms, but the SA government was quick to put a stop to that due to them wanting no image association with whats been going on in Zimbabwe. Thus as I said there have been no government sanctioned invasions of white farms as in Zimbabwe....And yes there is some truth to what you say about Africans enslaving each other, and Africa causing its own probelems, but its pretty 50/50. The point is its ridiclous to have such a smug, condesending (almost arrogant) attitude towards Africa due to its problems, as if Europe had nothing to do with it. Also, you accusing me of anti-americanism is hilarious considering how blatantly anti-african you are...hypocrite much?
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we seem to keep missing each other lately, guess its the big time difference between here (Korea) and the States...I also cant wait to see Up, you guys are so damn right about Pixar....its almost indecent how bad they make the rest of Hollywood look isnt it? lol.
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..yeah, look if titbag even begins to make sense then yikes! probably time to just go cold turkey completely..lol. I agree with you dude, we really should just let the magic unfold as you say....
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May 29, 2009 8:01:18 PM CDT
I want to see critics quotes from TITBAG on the Avatar poster...
by turdontherun
"Avatar - it's more addictive than a crack pipe!" - TITBAG, ain't it cool news.com"Weaver's 3D furry cup was worth the wait - 5 stars" - TITBAG, sexual predator's wing, maximum security"James Cameron fisted me with both arms and I loved it!" - TITBAG, the moon.Hearty recommendations, indeed.
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I might agree with you Alfie if it wasn't for a fucking Belgium by the name of King Leopold II.
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You forgot that all of TITBAG's quotes should be in Upper Case.
"YOU HAVEN"T SEEN WEAVER"S JUNGLY BUSH UNTIL YOU"VE SEEN ALIEN 5! TRUE STORY!" - TITBAG, a seen on "To Catch a Predator" -
laugh man, that was damn funny. Yeah Titbag really is just something else, you cant make up the shit he says. Do you think he for real? That he actually believes his own shit?
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actually knowing what you are talking about. Anyone that knows what Belgium did in the Congo would understand. The atrocities that were comitted there would have put the Nazis to shame...And lets not even get started on the fact that racial segregation was official British policy in all its colonies. Or that numerous problems were caused by the European powers just arbitrarily dividing Africa up between themselves with out any regard for long pre-existing natural tribal borders/boundaries etc...
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is the most selfish country in the world. they left zimbabwe to die and all they do is "OMG look at us WORLD CUP!! FTW lets rape BABIES!!! YAY! WE are sooo COOL! coolest kids on the block!"
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lest we not forget the atrocities that the colonists did when they"discovered" america too. white man's been fucking over a lot of people for a long time and when we get called out on it, we run home to momma! all's fair, right?
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TITBAG is clearly just a 'special' kind of guy. Perhaps we shouldn't judge him too harshly. Maybe scientists should lock him up in solitary confinement and study him?
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Holy crap the insane nationalism on display in this thread is sickening. Every country has its' dark secrets it would rather forget. This back and forth name calling leads nowhere.
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Yeah, I like it, but to tell the truth, it didn't blow my socks off. I understand that there will have been literally hundreds of pieces done for this movie though -which is, after all, why it's called 'concept' art. So who knows what the final movie may be like? The reason I'm slightly disappointed is the environment pictured here is of course nothing like the purple and blue psychedelic jungle described in the scriptment - it just looks like Kashyyyk from Revenge of the Sith or Skull Island - a little too earth - like for my tastes. I want my purple trees , damnit! However, in some of the recent leaked pictures, you could clearly see a projection of the jungle outside the windows of the colony command centre, and the trees definitely looked purple there. But who knows - did Cameron test this stuff and decide it wouldn't play, or as some have suggested, that its going at night, when the bioluminescence of Pandora comes into play, that we see the real trippy stuff? As for the machines, the designs look pretty good, although that mech is a little boxy - and in no way do I want people comparing anything in Avatar to terminator salvation! The gunship looks cool, but a little familiar. See, this is the problem with analysing stuff before it comes out; we can all get too nit-picky because it's all we've got to go on, but then these objections will vanish when we see everything in context. I trust Cameron knows what he's doing. I'm pretty sure somebody as meticulous as he is will have explored every possible element and variation of this movie exhaustively, and will have very good reasons for his final choices, be they aesthetic, practical, cinematographic reaons or whatever.BTW, right about this very minute in Santa Monica, Cameron is presenting 70mm prints of The Abyss and Aliens at the American Cinemateque. Wonder if he'll say anything there, or if he'll simply field questions about those films (although I'd be interested in ANYTHING he has to say). AICN, stop covering fucking Twilight and other assorted rubbish and get somebody down there tout suite!!!
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USA is perfect (What? What's that? Slavery? Killed the Indians? Jim Crow? Really? Are you serious?)
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When we start down the jingoistic path, then the talkback turns into a Bay film.
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...not Nationalism. Read George Orwell's awesome essay "Notes on Nationalism" in which he explains the difference:
http://tinyurl.com/7z94cm
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are cool but are unpredictable if you know what i mean.
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As it should be.
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all other countries are shiting their pants everytime their is a crisis only America stands tall and comes to the rescue.
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Yea I keep forgetting where you are bro. We will catch up hopefully soon, I will have T4 to discuss tomorrow, just let me know where you TB about T4. Over and out!
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haha you are as dumb as a dumpster
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interesting, not to mention slightly insane conversations are happening here...I would say enjoy T4, but since I know what you are in for....
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why you are so pissed off about SA abondoning Zim like what almot 40 fucking years ago. I wasn t even close to being born you halfwit. So i must now be sorry for what some racist, nationalist Afrikaaners (which im not as English is my home language) did many years before I was born? Geez dude, get over your self...
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i love to teabag people
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a jingoistic ignorant cunt like you.
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onto me. I dont play for that team pal. Why dont you go find Laserpants and the two of you can fingerfuck each other in your trailer park?
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You can't win. Best to not perpetuate the ignorance. Apparently, you are responsible for everything a country has done in its' history. Who knew?
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about the concept art. As you say there must be hundreds of designs done, literally. So all we are really getting is just a small taste, and both those design may have little to any resemblance to anything we will see in the finished film...
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sake I suppose this idiot thinks germans must be sorry forever for what their grandparents did, or maybe Americans should all feel guilty for what their ancestors did to the Indians and black slaves?
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you better fucking shut up you fucking prick
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It is almost as insane as attacking a movie based on two pieces of concept art.
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this finger pointing bullshit is just that...bullshit. Every country has dirty hands, and shameful actions from its past...So no one has the right to just go off at someone's nationality based on some long ago event/s
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little boy? Make more ignorant comments about things you know little about?
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fantasies? Or maybe its because i insulted your lover laserpants....
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close to home?
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points. Of course its completely absurd to attack any movie based on what must be two of hundreds of pieces of concept art...
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? Unfortunatly neither is opening in Korea this weekend...
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I am seeing Up on Tuesday and Drag Me to Hell tomorrow. I can't wait. Sadly, these might be two of the best movies this summer.
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UP was great. most enjoyable summer film so far..actually of the year. WATCHMEN is my fave so far.
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But yeah i think you are right, this summer is pretty much a washout. It looks like all the best movies are being saved for the end of the year, Avatar, where the wild things are, sherlock holmes etc...
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Did you see Up in 3D or 2D?
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it suprising that Pixar would deliver? Its really to be expected now isnt it?
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the movie watching experiance any different?
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I used to hate the old 3D in crap like Jaws 3 and such. However, I have seen The Polar Express, Beowulf and Superman Returns in Imax 3D and Coraline in Real 3D, and I have been pretty blown away. I think the new polarized glasses work much better and create a great sense of immersion. I can't wait to see what Cameron does with it.
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saw it 2D. glad i did cause i heard 3D was not essential and was actually distracting. i felt that the 2D was great. the colors were so vibrant, def with the balloons. just great.cant wait for dvd on tv.
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during the abyss of all films!!!how's that for irony?
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so does Laser...
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make his head explode. And we dont want that now do we....do we?
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to see what Cameron does with it.
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got to go and get some fresh air and sunshine....catch you guys later..
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oh yeah its day over there. have a good one. gotta get some sleep. my friends getting married tomm. gonna be a long day.
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seen watchmen, it just hasnt interested me for some reason. I was a big marvel and dc fan as a kid, love good comic book adaptations, but this just never got me into the cinema, might check watchmen out on dvd....
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i really have no comment on the matter. Personally I want to see in Avatar in 2D first. I want to see that it plays as a good/great movie all by itself. If thats the case then I will go watch it in 3D, so as to compare the experiance....
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May 30, 2009 9:33:13 AM CDT
southfricanuy...you still are the one who made the statement
by alfie boy
...which clearly reinforces the condescending tone that many non-Americans hold about our education and knowledge/ineterst in world afairs. Yeah we've got alot of rednecks who are relics of the past. But to classify us all in that frames IS bigoted thinking. Just acknowledge that. africa, has remained stagnant over the millenia in terms of societal evolution. The tribalism (smaller form of nationalism? Well, maybe), "warlord-ism," genocide, enslavement, rape, torture, disrespect for animals, and all that wonderful stuff you seem to want to overlook, continues to this day. Whether the cause be due to greed, religion, culture, white skinned people, or whatever, the fact remains that the continent is still presently defined by its abject poverty, inhumanity. and lack of civil and social order. We are all victims of the ignorance of our own times. But in the case of africa, the ignorant times continue and don't seem to end. On a continent so full of natural resources and human potential, it's disappointing to see such a lack of progress accompanied with finger pointing to other cultures. Get over it and fix your house! BTW, much of this can be said about south america.Your friend, as a fellow Homo Sapien, Alfie Boy
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Some of you folk seem awfully timid about watching stuff in 3D. For me, I will bewatching Avatar in 3D first time out - in fact, I will only be watching Avatar in realD and IMAX 3D, in all likelihood - I don't think I will even bother catching a 2D showing. Of course, I'm certain it'll play just fine in 2D - Avatar will be a top notch brilliantly told sci fi action movie like all Cameron's others, which is the main reason I'm looking forward to it anyway, not because of photo real CGI or 3D. We'll have to watch it in 2D when the DVD comes out anyway, so there's plenty of time for that.In my experience, 3D really does elevate things, turning even mediocre movies into a decent experience ie. Zemeckis' mo-cap efforts, so for something actually involving I imagine it'll be great. And Asimov, you are correct that certain techniques and compositions may not work in 3D, which is another implication why its an important development and not carny gimcrackery - it may indeed force a re-think and evolution of cinematic grammar. And done correctly, it can definitely tap into sub-conscious areas of the brain - the journalist from Time who saw footage described the peculiar sensation of wanting to return to Pandora the day after seeing it as if he had experienced some sort of waking dream. Generally, I find there's a lot of misguided apprehension about 3D, whether it be concerns that its going to be painful on the eyes, or gimmicky things poking out the screen at you, but my experiences with it were pretty much flawless - and if Cameron is going to take it to the next level of depth perception and immersion then I will be a very happy camper indeed. Again, it all comes down to the quality of material on screen - this will have the most influence on how you perceive 3D - the two are inextricably linked.
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very interesting points. If you are interested Turd go to marketsaw.com and you can listen to the 45 min Q and A with Cameron at the showing of Aliens and Abyss. He reveals some really interesting ifo about his work and Avatar...
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debate right now. Some other time dude, ok?
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...world hoppin', cosmopolitan, buon vivant such as yourself should just be getting going preparing for your wild night just ahead! And you claim you're tired! WOW!
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May 30, 2009 10:46:58 AM CDT
BTW...didn't know they had a janitor shortage in the far east
by alfie boy
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...is as far as we can go and still enjoy the content of the film without being overwhelmed by the projection technology. IMHO. I'm sure southafricanguy will disagree.
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GIANT PIG!!!
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...but I made the mistake of seeing CHARLIE & THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY and SUPERMAN RETURNS on those giant spherical IMAX theaters. Ugh! Distortion city, baby! But I saw the JJ STAR TREK on a digital flat IMAX theater, and WOW! I'm sold. I may not need that to see THE READER, but I sure do want it next for TRANSFORMERS 2.
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crap out of you, but i dont care what your personal tastes/opinons are, I only ever get riled up when someone states their opinion as fact, and said "fact" is in fact contrdicted by actual facts...And seriously...whats with the janitor crap? Are you really that big an asshole? Apparantly there is no asshole shortage in America. Sorry that I proved you wrong about your bad knowledge of farm invasions in Southern Africa, guess it pissed you off.....
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readmy damn posts, why would I disagree with you about 3D, or stereoscopic projectionn etc...as I said I have never seen a 3D movie, nor have I ever seen IMAX for that matter, thus unlike some other people who like to have big mouths about things they dont know about, I have no opinion on it. When I do ever get around to seeing either, I will let you know what I think so dont worry...And as I said, I intend to see Avatar in 2D thanks, I want to see if it works as a good/bad/great movie all by itself....
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