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First a Predator reboot and now... Alien?

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. If I were an evil mastermind trying to frame a movie studio, make them look like the biggest fools with the most money-hungry, lowest common denominator lifeless franchise-killing products I couldn't do anything to top what Rothman and Co have been doing to Fox for the last half-dozen years. Bloody-Disgusting broke a rumor late last night that Fox was remaking Alien and they have since updated their story with info from another source that confirms that Fox is moving on an Alien movie, but it'll be more of a reboot/origins type story than a remake. Judging by Fox's recent decisions, I'm sure instead of seeing the Space Cowboy in a scary, atmospheric thriller somehow modern day teens will be Twittering from a luxury space shuttle trip that goes awry and ends up on the Alien home world. The PG-13 blood-less, non-atmospheric mayhem will be fast-cut, shakey and filled with CGI smears running around. Perhaps I'm not giving them enough credit and being a knee-jerk fanboy. That last part is certainly true, but it's an educated knee-jerk. Hell, this could all come to nothing, but considering B-D got the jump on the Rodriguez PREDATOR reboot at Fox I'd say they're pretty trustworthy. If B-D's source is as solid as I think he/she/it is, then commercial director Carl Rinsch looks to be directing with Ridley and Tony Scott producing. That's the only bit that gives me hope it can survive the Fox suits. /film has a great story listing a bunch of Rinsch's commercials. I've embedded a couple of my favorites below.



If I hear anything further (hint hint email me hint) I'll make sure to pass it along. What do you folks think? -Quint quint@aintitcool.com Follow Me On Twitter



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  • May 28, 2009, 6:13 a.m. CST

    nononono first nonono

    by cesareo

  • May 28, 2009, 6:16 a.m. CST

    sigh

    by Se7en

    ah another rothman masterpiece.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:19 a.m. CST

    lovely...

    by SunTzu77

    We're already remaking Alien and Predator? Ridiculous. Let's remake a film that needs to be remade... how about Star Wars Ep I,II,III?

  • May 28, 2009, 6:19 a.m. CST

    cool its got to better than Alien 3 & 4

    by j2talk

    here's hoping anyway....

  • May 28, 2009, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Didn't Ridley Scott say recently that he would like to reboot it

    by dastickboy

    On first glance this is horrifying news. But I'm sure I saw an article, saying Scott wanted to go back to the property and tell a new story. I think Alien would actually work, as it's infinitely rebootable. Just tell different people's encounters with the Alien. One story doesn't have to tie in with another. Personally I'd just like to see it back in safe hands.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:20 a.m. CST

    sounds cool

    by Schuler_Bub

    Hopefully they do make it just like above. I'd love to see a teen version of alien, I always wondered what "the breakfast alien club" would be like. This could be as good if not better than Jason x!

  • May 28, 2009, 6:21 a.m. CST

    Somebody needs to shoot that fucker Rothman.

    by The Dark Shite

    I'd like to volunteer. <p> Cesareo, that's the only time I've ever laughed at a first. "nononono first nonono"! <p> Quality.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:23 a.m. CST

    And now PLEASE reboot AvP!

    by DerLanghaarige

  • May 28, 2009, 6:26 a.m. CST

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    by Primus

    If Scott directs it, that's fine - otherwise leave well alone. Look what happened to Fox's The Omen remake/reboot/crapheap - that wasn't churned out to make a quick buck, was it? I think we all appreciated the artistic value that presented.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:27 a.m. CST

    Even if Ridley Scott did do this.

    by Fortunesfool

    It'd still be all shaky and fast cut. It's difficult to differentiate between Ridley and Tony these days. Which makes me sad.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:27 a.m. CST

    Fucking Blasphemy

    by zool43

    How long til they remake Blade Runner?

  • May 28, 2009, 6:28 a.m. CST

    ahem...

    by smylexx

    can't we simply stop production of this and move on to a film that really needs to be made? The fans demand Aliens Vs Predator Vs Rocky right flippin' now!

  • May 28, 2009, 6:29 a.m. CST

    We need another aliens!!! Not 90210 aliens!!!

    by Supermans

    this crap is getting ridiculous. We the fans are being screwed over by the studios trying to get a new fanbase. I'm afraid we will never again see a high quality spacealien movie again. Aliens was the last great one while 3 and ressurection were garbage. Fox need to listen to us for once in their lives.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:30 a.m. CST

    That Heineken commercial is fucking scary!

    by DoctorZoidberg

    It does not get me wanting a beer.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:31 a.m. CST

    oh for fucks sake

    by Cedar_Room

    STOP. JUST FUCKING STOP.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:31 a.m. CST

    Why not remake Aliens as well?????

    by pdennett316

    Cast Miley Cyrus as Ripley and her dad as Hudson. Zac Effron can be Hicks. <p> The Aliens can be pink with big, adorable eyes and require shooting with friendship guns in order to make them nice again. And we all learn a valuable lesson.....the end. <p> Awwwwww, isn't that a neat idea Hollywood? Golly gosh I'd love to see that movie...so marketable.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:32 a.m. CST

    FUCK! STOP REBOOTING!!!!

    by stooopider

    why god why

  • May 28, 2009, 6:32 a.m. CST

    Thanks Dark Shite

    by cesareo

    Word

  • May 28, 2009, 6:33 a.m. CST

    80 mil opening weekend.

    by Stuntcock Mike

  • May 28, 2009, 6:33 a.m. CST

    maybe if Scotts on board...

    by PG_13_Fisting_Party

    but still, its fox it'll suck gigantoballs

  • May 28, 2009, 6:33 a.m. CST

    I'm gonna give

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    Tom Rothman's home address to the PLO. That was my initial and only reaction.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Teenagers sneaking away to have sex and then......OMG

    by stooopider

    Camera cuts to close up of teenager screaming as boyfriend gets brains blown out by aliens cock-mouth. Possibly a token black guy

  • May 28, 2009, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Admit it, we all want to see more Alien, BUT

    by DoctorZoidberg

    A good quality, intelligent flick with real suspense. Not the lame ass shit that has spewed since Aliens. What would be cool is to see, how those fuckers ever got off their home planet in the first place. (Probably already explained in the Dark Horse comics...but I don't count that)

  • May 28, 2009, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Cripes, I'm tired of this dance

    by Jack Burton

    Fuck Rothman. Fuck FOX. Same old song and dance. I'm glad I'm a bookworm because between the glut of garbage TV and garbage movies there is less and less I give a shit about coming out of Hollywood.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:41 a.m. CST

    Christian Bale as the alien queen!

    by Spandau Belly

    You know it's coming.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:41 a.m. CST

    NONONONONONONONONO!!!

    by Six Demon Bag

  • May 28, 2009, 6:42 a.m. CST

    Spooge !

    by dude_gimme_tabs

    NEWS JUST IN... <P> An early shift cleaner at the Fox Studios this morning reported to police that there was a disturbance in the Fox archive. <P> Inside, the vault was a mess with celluloid spread everywhere and vast quantities of bodily fluids found over a large proportion of the famous studios back catalogue of much loved films.<P> Upon first inspection, a police source claimed it was as if somebody had physically and violently raped the studios proud heritage. <P> No sign of a forced entry into the archive leads police to believe it could be an inside job. Senior executives will be interviewed later today. Tom Rothman, on board a private jet heading for an undisclosed South American country with no extradition treaty, could not be reached for comment.<P> Rumours persist that whilst in South America, Rothman plans to take a massive shit and attempt to have it released as the next installment in the X-Men franchise.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:44 a.m. CST

    Mathieu Kassovitz to direct Vin Diesel in Alien: Origins

    by Spandau Belly

    They tricked him again!

  • May 28, 2009, 6:44 a.m. CST

    remakes again

    by RipleyGrady

    I was under the impression that in order to be remade/re-imagined, the original source material had to be at least somewhat questionable. But now there seems to be a shift of remaking quality movies. It's the 70's!...are people somehow repulsed by any film made in this period that they MUST see a cheap re-imagining. I'm getting the impression people want to see mediocrity. Not great, not bad, just something in between, lukewarm water.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:45 a.m. CST

    simmer down folks, think about it.

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    What if its different characters encountering Aliens for the first time on a different level? Dark Horse comics did this type of material for years and it was very entertaining. I know Ripley is the Madonna of all Sci-fi movies but The Franchise is called Aliens. As long as its Not trying to be a shot by shot duplicate of the original Classic (and if thats the case I'm not interested) A re-boot could be accomplished as long as the material is respected.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:46 a.m. CST

    Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick.

    by beatleMatt

    Not everything needs a "reboot" or an "origins story". I could see updating Star Trek. I was totally great with Batman. But the Aliens movies (other than 3 and 4) were fucking amazing... Fucking Hollywood.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Ridley Scott and Tony Scott?

    by JohnRyder

    Who will have the most influence? I mean Alien felt like a Stanley Kubrick film. Not to mention Blade Runner. On the other hand Tony Scott feels like a low budget Michael Bay. Lot of cuts and speed up, nice (but in a postcard kinda way) cinematography. I would say that the brothers has nothing in common. If they produce it together it could end up as a mess.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:50 a.m. CST

    but then again......It is F-O-X....

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    Fuckin' On X

  • May 28, 2009, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay

    by MCMLXXVI

    Damn You Michael Bay

  • May 28, 2009, 6:53 a.m. CST

    There shall be no Ripley in this one

    by JohnRyder

    even if played be Megan "uglythumbs" Fox

  • May 28, 2009, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Star Trek is the reason this is happening.

    by barnaby jones

    You can all give yourselves a pat on the back.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:55 a.m. CST

    Why?

    by LionelRL

    $$$$$$$ - that's why! Holy shit! There is no need to reboot Alien or Aliens - these films are classics. A reboot will not bring anything new to the franchise or the genre in general. You know it will a PG-13 piece-of-shit like AVP and AVP:R. Rothman has run the franchise into the ground. Now he wants to rape whats left of it. Somebody pack this twat off to LV-426!

  • May 28, 2009, 6:55 a.m. CST

    Torn

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Not a fan of Alien, but it led to Aliens. And remaking Aliens, while not impossible in terms of success, will be difficult.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:56 a.m. CST

    Couldn't be any worse than Resurrection

    by solanine

    so why not? Superclone Ripley completely drained the last bit of actual humanity out of the story, so I'm game for anything at this point. Assuming he's involved, a Geiger-designed Alien planet would be impressive to see no doubt. Of course this will most likely be a total shitfest, completely devoid of what made the first two work so well, but for reasons that are fanboy in nature I wanna have faith in this.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:59 a.m. CST

    a What if Question.....

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    What If this re-make deal applied to everything? For Instance what if Art Museums decided that paintings from the likes of Da Vinci, Picasso, etc. were too old and needed to be remade to please modern day audiences?

  • May 28, 2009, 7:03 a.m. CST

    everything feels like a copy of a

    by JohnRyder

    copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy

  • May 28, 2009, 7:07 a.m. CST

    I have no faith in this project...

    by Duke_Whittington

    ...or indeed any other crap that Fox throws at us. Will they be rebooting Avatar before the Jim Cameron version is released?

  • May 28, 2009, 7:07 a.m. CST

    How did the director of Alien, Blade Runner & Legend

    by kwisatzhaderach

    become the director of A Good Year, American Gangster and Body of Lies? Answers on a postcard please. <p> Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut was awesome mind you, even Orlando couldn't disguise the class in that film.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:07 a.m. CST

    No, Quint, you give them TOO much credit.

    by ricarleite2

    It will be worse than that. FOX paving it's way to be the next Orion Pictures!

  • May 28, 2009, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Hey! Remember that classic/foreign language/tv series you love.

    by Duke_Whittington

    ...well here's our version with all the love taken out of it.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:13 a.m. CST

    Woohoo! An origin story! Yeah!

    by JackPumpkinhead

    And ONE HUNDRED aliens instead of one, each of them EXTREEEEEEEEME and UPDATED for the YOUNG URBAN VIEWER, with tons of EXCITING ACTION SCENES all filmed in GLORIOUS SHAKE CAM! Won't it be great?

  • May 28, 2009, 7:13 a.m. CST

    You're giving them about as much credit

    by Franco Begbie

    as they deserve.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:14 a.m. CST

    will someone please...

    by Gabba-UK

    Push Rothman out of a window!! He must be the best in a long line of people who Murdick employs to suck his cock. Anything with Fox's name isn't getting any off my cash. At least it will save my eyes from a fucking at the end of the year.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:15 a.m. CST

    I Have No Problem With This in Theory

    by kevinwillis.net

    I just don't think it's likely to turn out to be good. I don't mind remakes and reboots in and of themselves, but thus far, Fox has not exactly been the home for well-considered, expertly-executed, dynamic re-interpretations of classic material.<br><Br>I'm betting I'll probably pass.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:17 a.m. CST

    ADAPT THE DARK HORSE COMICS!!!

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    The first three miniseries' worth of DH Aliens comics pissed all over the actual movie sequels that were produced. Get some hot, 20-something actressed to play Newt and bring back Michael Biehn. DO it!

  • May 28, 2009, 7:17 a.m. CST

    Remember the Dead Thing In the Original Alien

    by kevinwillis.net

    I guess the dead alien that had hosted the "bad" alien until it burst through it's chest? I want to see that thing's story. I'd watch that movie. A scary movie completely sans humans. Hmmm . . .

  • May 28, 2009, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Mr. Zeddemore

    by rxse7en

    I think you nailed it. Origin story that leads to a Colonial Marine expedition to the Alien homeworld in the next installment.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:20 a.m. CST

    GAH!!!!!!

    by twogunjames

    Good Lord NO. NO. NO. I think this makes it official that we've all crossed over into some insane twisted version of the real world. Y2K is when it happened.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:22 a.m. CST

    Depressing...

    by LionelRL

    Hollywood's current obsession with reboots/remakes is so depressing. I understand the underlying reasons the suits want these productions, but it's all very disheartening for genuine movie buffs, fanboys and geeks. Why not simply tell a completely original tale of a horrifying alien encounter - without any connection to the Alien films. I can't wait for the Bladerunner, and the Godfather reboots. Why not reboot Lawrence of Arabia too! All these films were certainly deeply flawed and need a touch of the Rothman magic. Sigh....

  • May 28, 2009, 7:22 a.m. CST

    How is Tom Rothman still fucking employed?

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    The studio has consistantly failed to make any quality films for some years now, they continue to destroy the brands of the properties they have (Alien, Predator, X-Men, Die Hard, Fantastic Four) they do nothing but churn out embarassing, unentertaining crap time after time; they can only be losing money, I'd have to guess. Rothman wouldn't know a good idea if he was fucking it for God's sakes. How the hell can he still be running the damn studio?? <p> 20th Century Fox used to be the paragon of great movie studios. Some of my all-time favorite films are Fox movies. This guy has overseen the production of some HORRIBLE films since he's been there, and I have a hard time thinking of ANY good ones since maybe X2 or Moulin Rouge. And to consistantly erode the public's love for the studio's properties by producing flimsy sequels and reboots (or in the cases of FF, Daredevil and Elektra, ruining them from the start,) I can't imagine what kind of blackmail material he must have on the Fox Board of Directors to keep his damn job. <p> God, I wish Avatar was coming from a different studio. That movie's gonna make so much money that Rothman will be able to use that to bolster the studio's claim of all-around "success" and it'll give even less reason for his ouster. Fuck Tom Rothman. Fuck him up his stupid ass.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:34 a.m. CST

    I guess they hired Rinsch because

    by kafka07

    of his commercial with the alien Heineken popping out of the girl's stomach. Therefore, he has enough experience. Logical, right?

  • May 28, 2009, 7:38 a.m. CST

    If Ridley Scott is not directing...

    by Azby

    then it should be Danny Boyle. After Sunshine and 28 Days Later I think he could handle Alien's genre crossover perfectly. Otherwise I'm not interested. At all.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:40 a.m. CST

    I want to make a hard-core porn, but keep it PG13

    by V'Shael

    I think it'll be awesome. <p> I mean, it's not like anyone needs to hear some big-titted starlet say "Fuck me hard!". And it's not like we need to see tits either. A good figure-hugging top can be just as good as naked bouncy tits. <p> So I think the porn industry can make a lot of money by going the PG-13 route. And making hard core porn movies, with fully clothed actors dry-humping, and saying things like "Ride me with that long muscle, parental-substitute" <p> And I just won't understand why adults won't want to pay 14 bucks to see this masterpiece. <p> Yours sincerely,<br> A. N. Studio Exec.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:42 a.m. CST

    Seriously... you know what it is that's missing at Fox?

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    It's not something so expensive, it's not something unobtainable, it's not something that can be researched and test-marketed in order to find it, and it's not something horribly time-consuming... <p> It's called QUALITY. <p> It's called Dedication to the Worthiness of your Films. It's called Coming Up with an Original Idea from time to time. It's called Hiring Good Writers and Good Filmmakers and letting them do their jobs. <p> Warners did it with the Batman movies. They even took the Batman property from being a laughingstock, a cautionary tale of how NOT to direct a franchise, and they turned it into the model of how to get things done right. <p> You know what? I even heard about this small group a few years back - they were a bunch of young filmmakers with new ideas and they took advantage of new technologies available to make their own kinds of movies. They made some films, keeping the majority of the creative decisions in-house, avoiding a lot of outside mismanagement. They made entertainment and story the top priorities, and they refused from the start to pander to the public or dumb their movies down for the sake of selling a few more tickets. These guys call themselves PIXAR. And they seem to have a pretty good track record, if I recall correctly. <p> Quality. Story. Creativity. Entertainment. These are things you USED to find in films from 20th Century Fox. I guess that's all just too much to ask for anymore.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:42 a.m. CST

    "...horrible dream about smothering..."

    by I AM ROCKO

    Alien is a fucking classic. Aliens is an excellent action sci fi movie. I feel slightly better knowing that the Scotts are producing, however still nervous. Don't cast teens, keen the continunity, let it be rated R, make sure the script, story and cast and tip top, keep the effects mostly practical with serious attention to details, involve Giger, MAKE IT FUCKING SCARY AND SERIOUS.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Because we need to know what that species...

    by Alfie Boy

    ...of elephant-like alien was sitting behind the penis shaped gun (?)/telescope(?) was doing on that planet when the chest burster jumped through its ribcage.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Ah yes,

    by jae683

    I can just imagine how that pitch meeting went: Rothman: We need another franchise. Which one can we reboot? Flunky #1: How 'bout 'Back to The Future' We all know how kids love time-travel stories, right? Rothman: Do we even own that? Flunky #1: Does it matter? We'll just rename it. Cast that Fox chick, the one from Transformers. It'll be gold. Rothman: Nah, Spielberg will want to be involved, and he's a hack. (general laughter, nods of agreement) Flunky #2: How 'bout Alien! (room goes silent) Rothman: Yeah, I like it. Only, we'll have to ditch the truckers-in-space, working class crap. Today's teens will never relate to that. (everyone nods) Rothman (now in deep thought): We could lose the shadows and fog shit too. Kids want to SEE the alien. Flunky #2: A Special Effects extravaganza. Rothman: Lots of lens flare. And that real, shaky kind of style. We have to make it more REAL! Flunky #3: I like it. A young cast. Lot's of T&A. Hey, is that Fox chick available? Flunky #4 (sheepishly raises hand): What about the plot? (room goes quiet. everyone stare and flunky #4) Flunky #4: Well ... it was just an idea. Rothman (hitting the com button on his desk): Have security escort ... what's your name? Flunky #4: Bob Rothman: Have security escort Bob off the premises. Oh, and make sure he doesn't steal any of the office supplies on his way out.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Lightstormer

    by Gabba-UK

    He keeps his job cos he sucks Murdicks cock. End your internal discussion now. He'd most likely let him fuck his newborn child to death if it kept him in a job. I will not pay to see ANY Fox movie now while Rothman is in charge. This includes Avatar. In fact, if any of you go see it after all the bitching about Rothman you all spout, you are all fuckwits and a lower form of life than he his. At least he gets paid to suck Murdick off. By seeing Avatar you will in fact be paying to suck Murdick off.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Creatively bankrupt.

    by Smashing

    There just eating themselves now, Hollywood is dying and ideas like this are helping it along.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Christian Bale as the Alien Queen - HAHAHA

    by Alfie Boy

    Oh! Good for you! You're walking in that giant yellow exoskeleton...La-De-Dah!

  • May 28, 2009, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Damn you, Gabba.

    by LlGHTST0RMER

    Now I'm faced with a moral quandry. <p> Fuck. I'm going to bed.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Taking "origin story" a little too literally

    by ME_M

    Start with a single cell under a microscope. At the end of 10 minutes, we see it start to divide before a time cut... It'll be so big, they'll need to break it up into two parts to get all the way to an egg. And this way, the studio doesn't have to worry about residuals for writers or actors.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:51 a.m. CST

    FUCK OFF WITH THIS FUCKING SHIT

    by mrbong

    FUCK THE FUCK OFF, LEAVE FUCKING ALIEN ALONE

  • May 28, 2009, 7:53 a.m. CST

    fuck it ..remake everything

    by animas

    I don't care anymore.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:54 a.m. CST

    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

    by Lost Jarv

    Unacceptable. Die in fire fuckheads. <P>Alien 5 directed by Neil Marshall set on cyberpunk Earth after the Auriga crashes.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Origin story?

    by LionelRL

    Why do we need to know the origin of the Xenomorph? Its an elemental force of nature, a perfect predator - we don't need to know where it came from!! It just exists - it can't be stopped. Fuck Rothman...

  • May 28, 2009, 7:57 a.m. CST

    really? whats the point

    by Six Demon Bag

    what tmade the original groundbreaking was the fact that audiences really werent expecting what they saw. this is utterly pointless and stupid. SICK OF THESE REMAKE REBOOTS shit.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Rothman

    by ThereWolf

    I'm going to cut his heart out with a spoon.<p>Watched the ads: Fuck, no. No.<p>I second Neil Marshall.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:59 a.m. CST

    Two great tastes that taste great together

    by ME_M

    V'Shael: "I want to make a hard-core porn" Alfie Boy: "we need to know (why) that species of elephant-like alien was sitting behind the penis shaped gun" Studio movie making by committee: "Put 'em together. Brilliant!"

  • May 28, 2009, 8 a.m. CST

    Could someone please explain to me...

    by bongo123

    ... why you knobheads on here get your fucking knickers in such a twist at each and every mention of a reboot/remake or whatever of a classic old movie. It's really starting to make me wonder if everyone of you is fucking retarded in the head. Firstly who gives a shit if they remake this Starwars, Bladerunner etc, are you that much of a simpleton that the very notion of a film based on a previous film makes you go all demented.. i mean, come on, it's a fucking movie, to listen you lot you'd think someone was talking about gang raping some immediate family member. What is it with the people on this site, if you're not bitching about a film that hasn’t even been released, your bitching about fucking rumours, infact all this site seems to be lately is a bunch of crybaby dickheads who bemoan every single piece of movie news that gets uttered here, this site isn’t filled with movie lovers, just basement dwelling cretins who vent at every single bit of information regarding scripts, rumours, upcoming films & released films. I consider myself a fucking huge Alien fan, have an original movie poster signed by the entire cast including scott along with numerous sideshow collectibles and every book and comic that even mentions Aliens all taking pride of place in my living room, yet like the Thing remake another of my favourite movies, i don't see this as anything other than a tried and tested great fucking story told in a hopefully new and interesting way whereas you lot only ever seem to jump on the "they raped my fucking childhood" bandwagon.. It's a fucking business, don't like it.. which you lot clearly don't, dont fucking go see it then vote with your wallet... and oh yes, look at how your fucking protests went with Transformers!

  • May 28, 2009, 8:03 a.m. CST

    ALIEN does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Six Demon Bag is right, the original appeal of ALIEN was its mystery.<p> The enigmatic poster art only showed the cracking egg. Audiences back then only knew two things about that flick - that it was sci fi and that it was scary.<p> If you do a 'remake' its pointless - you will NEVER better the original.<p> If you do a 'prequel' or a 'sequel' then count me in. Ridley's producing = fantastic news.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:06 a.m. CST

    This Isn't Your Daddy's 'Alien'

    by saintaugust

    I really hope the tv spots say that just like the 'Star Trek" ones

  • May 28, 2009, 8:07 a.m. CST

    For the zillionth time

    by Lost Jarv

    Alien 3 is good. Alien resurrection is 2/3 good. <P>It's only AvP and AvP:Rectum that are utter dogshit- and it's because of them that Rothman thinks it will be acceptable to assrape the xenomorphs. Again.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:10 a.m. CST

    "a luxury space shuttle trip that goes awry and ends up on the A

    by rev_skarekroe

    I actually like that idea.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:10 a.m. CST

    This news doesn't shock me in any way.

    by Fawst

    I so don't care anymore. Drew wrote a good piece on the remakes the other day saying stuff like "you THINK you want to see the Clone Wars, but trust me: you don't." The backstory of Alien to me has always been a "what if" scenario in my mind. Pretty much the crew of the Sulaco found what amounts to a nuclear weapon, and they ignorantly pushed the button. The concept of a bio-weapon was always glorious to me, and I really just don't want to see that movie made. I have plenty of ideas in my mind for how it could play out, but really... we don't need it. And yes, the idea of a PG-13-cuz-we-gotta-make-fat-stacks is distressing. All I can hope for is a movie that is more substance than style, and I have become jaded to the point where I doubt it can happen.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:10 a.m. CST

    They should hire me to do it.

    by Fortunesfool

    I'd set it on an Alien infested earth, with our heroes holed up in a military building or something. Basically, like Dawn of the Dead (Romero's one, not that fuckwit re-make)but with loads of Aliens instead of zombies. That'd be cool.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:11 a.m. CST

    bongo123

    by The_Skook

    The reason people despair is because they LOVE movies and the artform/entertainment/medium it is. Constant remakes, reimaginings, reboots, whatever the crap euphemism is this month for what these twats do, demeans it, destroys imagination and originality. Going back and rewriting works of literature is not an option, so why is a medium like movie making treated with such contempt by the people who purport to love it? Who control it!? There is SO much waiting to be made that could be SO good, but the problem is there is no courage anymore from these dicks.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Fortunesfool

    by Lost Jarv

    Exactly. <P>This shit makes me angry.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:15 a.m. CST

    sooooooooooo....

    by TinSpider

    ...after the fuck ups that were Aliens Vs Predator 1&2 they now want to fuck the franchises up in their own self contained worlds. That's like hitting somebody in the face with a crowbar AFTER you've emptied a shotgun into somebodies head. Way to go, Fox fucks. When is somebody going to fucking nuke that place.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:17 a.m. CST

    bongo123

    by LionelRL

    "a tried and tested great fucking story told in a hopefully new and interesting way " - highly unlikely given the involvement of Fox and Rothman. Reboots/remakes are ok if the original film was deeply flawed or the new production team can add a genuinely interesting new twist to the formula - but this rarely happens. Why does Alien need to be remade? The film stands up to the test of time - it's not dated or in need of reinvention. Why not put the time and effort into an original idea instead?

  • May 28, 2009, 8:17 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    If you do the same again (Alien versus man in the confines of a spaceship or a moon base) it's simply not going to be compelling. We've seen that four times now.<p> You have to take a chance and do something completely different...<p> Alien home world.<p> What would that be like? Maybe like Starship Troopers but with all the underground tunnels made out of Alien goo? Maybe a jungle planet? Maybe an ice planet? Maybe even a planet where the Aliens aren't at the top of the food chain.<p> Fox (and Ridley) have to do something NEW to make this compelling.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:18 a.m. CST

    You'll all have to buy a shitload of Whisky sours...

    by Gabba-UK

    To wash away the taste of Murdicks black jism if you see Avatar. You'll have to shower like a gang-rape victim, with bleach and the hottest water if you see Avatar. Those of us with conviction in our hearts and the strengh of the pillar in our minds to resist the call of Lord Cameron to recieve an ocular lovefest, will look upon you with pity, knowing that we will blessed forever more for renouncing Satan and his nutsack lickers, Rothman and Murdick. With every decision he makes to ruin Fox, it will become cooler and cooler to be able to say that you stayed true to geekdom and did not see Avatar.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    by freakshowmonkey

    "The PG-13 blood-less, non-atmospheric mayhem will be fast-cut, shakey and filled with CGI smears running around." And lens flares. Please God, don't forget the lens flares.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    Nuke Fox from orbit, it's the only way to be sure

    by reflecto

    Fuck this.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:24 a.m. CST

    The Alien films - 1 to 3 at least - are about RIPLEY

    by Mr Gorilla

    It is HER character that makes the whole thing so interesting. She was a totally genre-busting hero - a new kind of female star. That is why Aliens and then Alien 3 are so satisfying, they are about exploring her character, and putting her through the most horrible situations. FOX will never understand this. They think it is about monsters who burst out of your tum. It IS, of course, but that is secondary to Ripley.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Send Hollywood a message by boycotting this

    by Sithdan

    I'd take Alien Resurrection - hell I'd take AVP - over an Alien remake any day. I'm tired of Hollywood bastardizing these franchises with "reboots" (which are the same thing as remakes, don't fool yourselves). First that hack Nolan destroys the Batman series and then Bond's legacy has turned to shit with the robotic Daniel Craig. Don't allow this beloved sci-fi classic suffer the same fate!

  • May 28, 2009, 8:26 a.m. CST

    Or, to amend that from Gabba (although I agree with him)

    by Lost Jarv

    pirate Avatar. <P>You know this is the way to go, and it's the only fair punishment to fox for this shit. <P>Anyone remember the AvP:Rectum fiasco when all those fucking plants turned up saying shit like "See it or they won't make proper R rated movies any more". That's what we're headed for.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:27 a.m. CST

    SDB....well since you asked so nicley my

    by southafricanguy

    friend, i will tell you what I think. First, agree with you 100% is every fucking previously made series going to be remade/rebooted...fuck man i just give up...really I do. As time goes on it just looks like we will get less and less new ideas...its getting depressing at this point. That why I dont give a fuck what anyone says about Cameron, at least he is trying to do something original and different. For that alone he has my respect considering the current state of affairs.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Say what you like, kwisatzhaderach...

    by irishraidersfan

    American Gangster was a good, solid movie! Sure, not up there with Blade Runner or even with the visuals of 1492 (a turkey, but visually beautiful); Ridley Scott can still make a decent flick.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:29 a.m. CST

    by dr_deuchars

    Aaaaaargggghh! oh god no! Pre-Alien 90120 or worse. CGI space jockeys walking around, no Giger, no edgy cast, no 'Dune A Team' of designers...

  • May 28, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST

    The problem with the "originality within Alien"

    by Lost Jarv

    thinking is that it leads to moronic shit like the Predalien. <P>Fox will, in a misbegotten attempt to be creative, come up with some unholy bollocks like tiger striped dayglo Aliens or some such bollocks. <P>Fuck this. Keep the Alien hidden- it's at its best when it pops out of the shadows and fucks people up.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Second...the worst thing to ever happen to

    by southafricanguy

    Hollywood was the geeks winning, and Hollywood going out of its way to cater to us. In retrospect did we really need to see the clone wars?...No we did nt, because it was always so much better and cooler in our imaginations. And look what we got. Same with terminator...do we really want to see the future war? ....we think we did, but no we didnt. The glimpes we got in the first 2 movies was just enough to make our imaginations soar. And now look at the result because Hollywood thought thats what we wanted.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:31 a.m. CST

    if there is a reboot of alien

    by livahd

    i will officially boycott hollywood.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:32 a.m. CST

    NO MORE ORIGINS

    by OGoncho

    Please, PLEASE! NOBODY GIVES A FUCK, DAMN IT.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    I really have nothing good to say about this

    by southafricanguy

    so I will just refrain from saying anything further as Im really just burnt out...

  • May 28, 2009, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Let me echo several others with NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    by I am_NOTREAL

    OOOOOOOOOOOOO! NO! NO! DON'T DO IT! DON'T! The only flaw in the original is the lameo "head-thru-the-hole-in-table" trick with Ash. Everything else is basically note perfect: acting, score, set design, lighting, direction...even the opening titles are excellent and impart a real sense of mystery and dread. Perhaps my favorite movie of all time, I wasn't really old enough to see it in a theater but my dad took me anyway (after weeks of pestering) and it impacted me profoundly. Maybe as important a movie to me as Star Wars. No! No! NO! NOOOOO!

  • May 28, 2009, 8:35 a.m. CST

    What happened to less is more....mystery is

    by southafricanguy

    a good thing, enigma is a good thing. The prequal trilogy ruined Vader because we didnt and should nt have seen so much about Vader...Same here, we dont NEED to know where the aliens come from, The answer can only dissapoint and never live up to our imaginations...

  • May 28, 2009, 8:35 a.m. CST

    Has anybody else noticed

    by i_banged_harley_quinn

    that videogame stories are more creative and interesting than hollywood lately. Hollywood should really think about hiring some of those guys to come up with some original material.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Scott and Cameron were willing to do Alien 5

    by performingmonkey

    But the studio wanted AvP instead. Go fucking figure. Why don't Fox just ask them to make a 2 minute trailer with quick cuts, people will flock to it even if there's no actual movie.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:38 a.m. CST

    ALmost right

    by Lost Jarv

    the worst thing that happened to hollywood was the rise of marketing. These fucks and their idiotic focus groups are what lead to utter horseshit like Terminator 4. <P>Think about it- what would happen if the original Alien went before a focus group? It wouldn't be what it is. That's why whenever I see "reshot after testing badly" I know it's another marketing driven film by committee.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Oh Hell no.

    by Powerring

    From the space in his grave you can hear Stan Winston scream. NO...no...no...no.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    BTW I admit it, I liked Alien Resurrection

    by reflecto

    It was far from perfect or great art but it worked. Amazing visuals and ideas, not always well-executed. I do think Sigourney as "Number Eight" opened up the Ripley character to a slew of new possibilities, if they choose to use them in the future.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Why does Rothman continue to be successful?

    by Slippy

    Because assholes continue to see his movies. A vs. P made 180 million worldwide, Wolverine made over 310 million worldwide, Fantastic Four 1 made 330 million worldwide, and the Fantastic Four 2 made 290 million worldwide. All are shitty movies, but people go to see them. You cannot knock Fox if they are continually profitable. The guy makes money, albeit the movies are God-awful.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Southafricanguy

    by Gabba-UK

    You are so correct about that. The Future War, The Clone Wars and what happened after the first Matrix are so much better in our imaginations because there are no constraints, budget or Rothmans in there to fuck it up. It's why I'm firmly against any attempts to make HP Lovecraft movies. The imagey that flows in my mind from those stories could NEVER be put on film.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Anyway......as for ridley, one of my favourite

    by southafricanguy

    directors. But to be honest I think he has hit a rut, American Gangster was dissapointing, a fairly good movie, but really nothing all that special or memorable. Have nt seen body of lies yet but I hear bad things. Agood year was ok too, not bad, but again just ok. Imho these are movies unworthy of Scott. I love The Duelists,Alien, Blade Runner, black Rain, Gladiator, Black Hawk Down. 1492 is underrated i agree, but its a flawed movie. The directors cut of KOH was way superior, not classic, but pretty damn good. However Scott has misfired a number of times e.g legend (sorry but watch that movie now and its quite godawful), gijane, white squall are all style over substance (his biggest weakness sometimes imho). Though i really enjoyed matchstick men. But I hate Hannibel with a serious passion, sorry but that movie was just garbage....

  • May 28, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Why don't we just 'reboot' everything

    by Cat_Corporation

    While we're at it. Even things that really don't need it, that haven't aged at all, that are probably better left alone...Just for kicks.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:46 a.m. CST

    well let's see what

    by TheExterminator

    happens. can even be bothered to get irate any more.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Mr Slippy Fist-movies are God-awful-Really?

    by j2talk

    they might not be great, but the BO #'s prove that people enjoyed them....and all 3 named by you named were certainly more enjoyable than 90% of so called good movies...who the fuck willing sat thru Ben Button a second time? I am looking forward to seeing another wolverine film and would love to see more FF and a second daredevil-as long as it plays out like the directors cut....

  • May 28, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Interesting to see that Scott is returning to

    by southafricanguy

    sci-fi because he was so inspired by what Cameron showed him of Avatar. Apparantly he has nt done sci-fi all this time because he believed it had all been done, that there are no new ideas etc..Until he was shown Avatar. Now he is making The forever war....in 3D no less...

  • May 28, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST

    no swimming aliens.

    by alice 13

    theres a limit.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST

    though i can honestly say that im having a

    by southafricanguy

    hard time caring about his robin hood. Im sorry but what more can be added to this fucking story. There are already so many RB movies, several of them considered classic. Why in heavens name is Scott wasting his time with this? Oh well at least it will look beautiful, and Crowe will get another chance to research the crap out of a role and go all method actor....

  • May 28, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Whatever.

    by Yeti

    Not.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST

    WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!

    by SpyGuy

    Beyond all kinds of wrong!

  • May 28, 2009, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Things that shouldn't have been done:

    by Lost Jarv

    Matrix sequels, Halloween remake, Star Wars Prequels and Clone Wars shit, Future War in Terminator, Wolverine. <P>There's plenty more but these are all things that explained something that should have been kept shrouded in mystery.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:53 a.m. CST

    speaking of which....is it now a rule that Scott

    by southafricanguy

    can only work with Crowe? Crowes a great actor, but it would be nice to see a different face in a scott movie again....but then again the last time that happened we got fucking plank of wood Bloom in KOH. Ok....i take that back...Please make all your movies with with Crowe Ridley, all is forgiven!

  • May 28, 2009, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Hollywood has ALWAYS been Sequel Happy

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    How many Frances the Talking Mule or Ma and Pa Kettle movies did they make?<br /><br />On the other hand, it really IS starting to seem like every film that's not foreign or independent is a sequel or a remake. That's the problem with the geeks inheriting the earth. Comic Books and TV shows and Monster Movies are designed to be perpetual story machines.The stories don't all have to be good as long as there's another one next week, next month, next year. That's what you've settled for. Why gripe now?<br /><br /> It's not like the Universal Horror series in the 30's and 40's kept getting better and better with each installment. 1 or 2 good movies and then downhill. It's ALWAYS been this way...

  • May 28, 2009, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Another Alien movie would be fine

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    in that they've all been superfluous since the first one. As long as they're not actually remaking Alien - which I doubt they are if Ridley Scott is actually involved.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:56 a.m. CST

    "BO #'s prove that people enjoyed them"

    by Lost Jarv

    Repeat after me, asshead: <P>"BOX OFFICE DOES NOT EQUAL QAULITY" <P>It's people like you that are partially responsible for this shite. I bet you're 12.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST

    Unfortunatly Lost Jarv

    by Gabba-UK

    Mystery requires imagination and brain power. 2 things lacking in many of todays movie going, ADD riddled public.

  • May 28, 2009, 9 a.m. CST

    Unless it turns out to be GOOD, I don't give a damn.

    by JDanielP

    I remember when I used to go to ALIEN movies, back when there was still hope for good entertainment. But even then, since the greatness of the first two, everything was a disappointment...or just SUCKED.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:02 a.m. CST

    j2talk

    by Slippy

    I saw these movies via HBO/bootleg and yes, I think they suck. Many people do have a difference of opinion, but in my personal opinion, I think the movies I listed are terrible movies. My opinion is not the end all; it’s just my personal opinion. I always see people bitching about the quality, yet, they'll go see the movies 3 times in the theatres. One cannot knock the fact that although universally criticized, Rothman makes money for his company. He is a great businessman.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:03 a.m. CST

    hey guys for anyone that is interested go

    by southafricanguy

    check out marketsaw.com. They have got some real concept art from Avatar. Apparantly from the official concept art book thats coming

  • May 28, 2009, 9:04 a.m. CST

    With Ridley producing there is hope...

    by Alkeoholic77

    LIke when Spielberg produced Poltergeist.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Reliving my childhood

    by WhoDis

    Geez, do the studio execs sit around watching DVDs going "Hey, that would be a good movie to remake!" instead of reading original screenplays sent to their door? I'm 35 years old and I never thought I'd see the same movies come out twice in my lifetime, sooner or later the sacred cows will be remade (Star Wars, Jaws, etc.) and then that's when the movie business has officially jumped the shark. (and I get that I don't have to go out and watch this bullshit, but it's still a movie that's taking away from another movie being made or promoted against and the new generation of kids are going to buy into poor quality movie making because they don't know any better).

  • May 28, 2009, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Looks interesting...I like the design of the

    by southafricanguy

    flying gunships. Very anime imho...

  • May 28, 2009, 9:06 a.m. CST

    All box office proves is that...

    by Gabba-UK

    Marketing is king. Why do you think Wolverines 2nd week drop was 75%? Marketing got the fucktards in on the first weekend, who then, pissed off as they were about being conned out of their cash for that POS, made sure their friends didn't have to sit through it.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST

    This is the worst idea

    by Zappary

    I have ever fucking heard.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:09 a.m. CST

    yeah yeah... but will you watch it?

    by cloudrider`

    AICN keeps blaming rothman for everything and STILL they watch everything he put out. quint, did you watch x3 in theater? how about FF? wolverine? <p> you geeks have no right to complain if you keep giving the guy money. take some of that responsibility. blame youself first.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Why god?

    by HoboCode

    Why?

  • May 28, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv- didnt say Quality said I ENJOYABLE

    by j2talk

    I hate the fact the people bemoan the fact that people Like and Enjoy popcorn films...I'd much rather have a Van Helsing than a Ben Button, a Wolverine over A There will be Blood ( I cant stand pretentious OSCAR grab flicks) or Iron Man over TDK ......certainly those film aren't on my all time top ten, but they cetainly get viewed a lot in my household...

  • May 28, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Absolute shit.

    by Lost Jarv

    Box office is the only measure that truly matters? What cynical, soulless anti-artistic shite. <P>How about longevity. Don't forget Blade Runner or The Thing died on their arse in the cinema and yet still provide a steady revenue stream (and will continue to do so) long after the disposable popcorn fluff like FF is forgotten. <P>You want the best example? Star Wars- over 30 years old, spawned 5 sequels still sells DVD's and merchandise by the bucketload. Whereas who bought a fucking Jar Jar toy?

  • May 28, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Even if this movie BLOWS, there'll be idiots who go

    by LabattsBleu

    opening weekend and inflate the numbers and the confidence of the studios JUST LIKE T:$...so, please, quit your bitching about hollywood remakes, cynical cash-grab sequels - those who saw T:$ opening weekend or those who are planning to see TF2 ARE EXACTLY WHAT THE STUDIOS WANTS and who perpetuate the creative bankruptcy of Hollywood...I mean why take a chance? Rebrand/reboot a tested franchise and the sheople will watch anyways (and then complain afterwards)...Hilarious...

  • May 28, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Tom Rothman vs. Jon Peters

    by Slippy

    Who is the bigger asshole? Discuss. . .

  • May 28, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Seriously...

    by Codename V

    I always try to keep an open mind about stuff like this but I think these re-boots are bordering on the ridiculous. Why do the upper level muckity mucks have to re-boot movies that don't need re-boots? Alien doesn't need a re-boot. A new story? perhaps. Prequel? maybe the origin as part of the new story... Predator? Same thing. Re-boot equals box office plain and simple. I have no problem re-booting a series that's gotten ridiculous and needs a fresh start(Batman anyone?). But aside from Aliens vs. Predator type stuff, Predator had one great and one merely ok movie (arguable). Fresh storytelling and good direction is what is needed.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    FUUUUUUUUUCK YOU

    by LOTGA

    This is weak auce right there.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Absolute shit (take 2)

    by Lost Jarv

    Quantify "enjoyable" and I'd argue that the dizzying drop off in box-office from Week 1 onwards actually suggests that the majority of people that saw it didn't enjoy it.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    The quick cuts in those commercials were annoying

    by Dr. Hfuhruhurr

    Why do directors think quick cutting somehow makes things more interesting? I couldn't even follow what that first commercial was supposed to be about. Ugh.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Things that shouldn't have been done: cont'd

    by Droid

    The demystification of Hannibal Lecter (in both the shitfest sequel and prequel) <p> Superman's son <p>The lovechild of a rainbow lollypop and a kaleidescope named Speed Racer <p>Watchmen

  • May 28, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Irishraidersfan

    by kwisatzhaderach

    American Gangster was fine, my point was that anybody could have made it really. As Fortunesfool pointed out Ridley and Tony Scott are virtually indistinguishable these days.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    FOX sucks donkey balls

    by HerbWestAustin

    The whole company doesn't know how to do anything right.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Not a remake but an origins story..Space Jockey, LV421 etc

    by KillaKane

    According to Empire's/BD's scoop. Would be absolutely pointless to remake Alien, Scott wouldn't sanction it, he's already been kicking around the idea of another Alien film so this sounds like he's taking on a production role and hiring a protogee commercials director (like himself) to get it made. Could be interesting.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Alien vs Aliens

    by enderandrew

    The first film was horror, and you didn't know what to expect. The more familiar you were with the aliens, the less scary they became and the franchise shifted to more of a sci-fi/action series. The same can be said of Terminator vs Terminator 2, and then the following sequels. A horror film became an action film, which became lesser action sequels. The only way this works, is as a true horror film, which almost no one in Hollywood knows how to make. Admittedly I have not seen Drag Me to Hell yet.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:24 a.m. CST

    No

    by Currencyboy

    no and fucking thrice no

  • May 28, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    IT'LL TOTALLY BE WORTH IT TO REBOOT ALIEN

    by TITBAG

    IF FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN TO SEE ALL THE FUCKING TOOLS WHO THOUGHT THE NEW TREK WAS 'GREAT FUN!' POST THEIR POSITIVELY INANE COMMENTS IN THE ENDLESS TALKBACKS THAT WILL SPRING UP ON AICN EVERYTIME A FUCKING GRIP INTERN SENDS IN A PHOTO OF SOMEONE'S BOOT HEAL.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Watchmen

    by Lost Jarv

    Funny. <p>Can we also add Live Free or Die Soft 4.0 to it?

  • May 28, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    A 'Re-Boot' Is The Only Option...

    by Graphix67

    Consider the original Alien-Trilogy as a once beautiful prom-queen (yes, I'm including the well-intentioned, high quality, yet flawed Alien-3 in that group). But, by the time of Alien Resurrection and the twin AVP abominations, that once beautiful prom-queen had been reduced to a crack-using, teeth-falling-out, burnt-out whore. So, instead to vainly attempting to rehab the burnt-out whore and continue on within the existing story-line/universe, it's better to simply go back to the beginning and re-tell (or completely revamp) the origins of the creature and of the first humans to make contact. But, *ONLY* if it is a SERIOUS and QUALITY effort on behalf of FOX. Getting the Scotts involved is a good first step. But it's ONLY a first step. Time will tell...

  • May 28, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Hard R and no CGI...

    by UltimaRex

    ...and I'll let Rothman live.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    this country has jumped the shark

    by bilbo78

    we have no new ideas, are pathetic in living in the past memories, fuck this shit and anyone who is down with it.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    I know that my not seeing Avatar...

    by Gabba-UK

    Is going to be as effective as a fart in a wind tunnel. But at least when FF: Sue Gets Her Tits Out makes only £28 on the opening night, I'll be able to hold my head high and say it wasn't my fault.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    The Descent 2

    by Lost Jarv

    Haven't seen it, but I'll bet that it's a pointless bag of shit that explains the cave creatures and gives background on the women,

  • May 28, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    A reboot is not the only option

    by Lost Jarv

    Kill Ripley in the first 15 minutes of Alien: BULLSHITSUBTITLE. <P>That's how you do it- reason being that it removes her from the ongoing series and closes the door on the originals. As a bonus it allows a new heroine/ hero to emerge as you won't have a fucking clue who will survive if Ripley's dead. And no-one obvious. Remember Ripley herself wasn't the obvious survivor of the first movie.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    prequels - the new starwars legacy

    by cloudrider`

    now every movie wants to do prequel/origin story. just one more thing i hate about the new starwars.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    another alien movie is always good news,

    by SylarTheCylon

    despite the high probability that it will suck harder than a toothless hooker with a vacuum cleaner stuck to her ass.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    THIS IS FUCKING BULLSHIT

    by JaPra

    The ALIEN saga doesn't need a REBOOT or a REMAKE. It needs an end.<br><br>Based on the little information I'm seeing I can tell already that this is classic 20th Century Fox....<br><br>1. They hire a director based on his visual style as opposed to his ability to tell a story.<br><br>2. They hire some one to write a story who's in love with Cameron's ALIENS and they throw together all of the best parts and create something so sub par that it makes Alien Resurrection look like a masterpiece [thanks for the shit story Joss Whedon]<br><br>3. The trailer premieres and it looks promising.<br><br>4. The movie releases to a 29 million dollar 4 day total and the film fails.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    What does reboot even mean?

    by one_guy_from_andromeda

    In a case like Alien? Basically that just says that Ripley will not be in it, or that she will be played by a different actress, it's not like there is a lot of steadfast rules to it or a certain look, all the alien movies were pretty different. (atmosphere and genre wise nearly every single one of them was a reboot)<p> What i really don't get is why people still willingly spend money to see origin stories. They're all the same, they're all boring.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Stone me, but I didn't mind the sequels

    by David Cloverfield

    till AVP. Yes, it's a rule of diminishing returns, but I found a lot of enjoyment in Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection. They still tried new things, and still had iconic, disturbing imagery. (Bald Ripley suicide, Clone Ripleys etc) Unfortunately, if this remake happens, it will be more like AVP. Also: How can you remake a franchise, that was in the theaters just last year?

  • May 28, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST

    reboots of the Godfather and Star Wars coming soon

    by Rupee88

    Why would you reboot movies that are near perfect like Alien? Oh yeah, just to make some easy money from people who have bad taste and who like funding stupdi reboots with their box office admission money...crazy

  • May 28, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Here's an idea...

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    Why not write a NEW movie?

  • May 28, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    You guys will lap up the "Luxury Spaceship" movie

    by GeorgieBoy

    You people drank the Star Trek Kool-Aid too. You'll drink this Alien Reboot Kool-Aid too.<br><br> Suckers.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Now what i'd love to see

    by one_guy_from_andromeda

    Now that 3D is getting better and better - give the original Alien the 3D treatment, put it out in IMAX and tell no-one that it is the original movie from 79 in the trailers. Then see how much many it makes. <p>

  • May 28, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    The origin reboot is the new switch-body movie

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    Coming soon: Fred Savage and Judge Reinhold are doing a reboot of Krull!

  • May 28, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    If you loved the new Star Trek, you have no right to complain

    by gruntybear

    Sorry, but you don't. You're strident, never-ending slobbering over that piss-poor remake has pretty much consigned genre films of the next decade to be nothing but retreads of the last 30 years. Bravo! Bon chance! I hope you truly enjoy regurgitated "sciffy," 'cuz that's what your love of the "ammmmaaaazzziingg" new Trek has forced onto the menu. Ten years after Lucas desecrated the original trilogy with his "prequel" cash-grab, we're still trapped in a cycle of origin/prequel stories. The success of JJ's "Dawson's Trek" just ensured that now we'll only get re-heated versions of the "classics" for the decade to come. I hope that was what you were going for - because what's old is now "new" all over again. Good going, you vapid ninnies. You've just fucked us all.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    The Art of Avatar: James Cameron's Epic Adventure

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Yes please.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    I'll take any Alien movie...

    by rxse7en

    ...without Predators, thanks. I don't even need Ripley anymore, unless they can use her in a post-Aliens sequel that predates Alien3. Follow the Dark Horse line and give us the story of Hicks and Newt.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    It's still the worst idea

    by Lost Jarv

    since the doctor said "Mrs. Hitler, it's a boy, why don't you call him Adolf."

  • May 28, 2009, 9:52 a.m. CST

    gruntybear

    by kwisatzhaderach

    You're on the money. Studios will be clambering over themselves to make their own tween versions of JJ Abrams Star Wreck.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Needs more GIANT PIG

    by Droid

    <p>

  • May 28, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    I guess anything "genre" is game

    by BenBraddock

    That seems to be the thinking.. Assholes.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Don't equate Star Trek with this shit

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    Star Trek was a creative way of telling a NEW story.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Alright lads, here's the plan...

    by Kief_Ledger

    we stage a coup on 20th century fox and take Rothman's position from him. This is going to be tricky, but it can be done. All we have to do is catch him on the studio lot when he's on his way from his office filled with coked out hookers to the editing bay where he's going to hack apart Fox's next big summer movie. One of us dresses up as his driver, drives him out into the desert, and leaves him there. It's up to the driver to kill him or not. After that the studio is ours.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Aw no gruntybear

    by emteem

    Did the bad people like something you didn't and now you have a boo boo on your heart?

  • May 28, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    "Dawson's Trek" - a NEW story? Are you on crack?

    by gruntybear

    You know perfectly well that "Dawson's Trek" was Volume 1 in a newly minted remake-mother-fucking-machine. There will be no "going where no man has gone before" in the inevitable sequels. There will only be retreading of what went before. A Klingon bent on revenge, probably involving time-travel, Q, a couple of cutely named whales and a glimpse of "The Borg To Come" will all be waiting for us in "Dawson's Trek II." Search your feelings, young Trekling, you know it to be true.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    I second that

    by Lost Jarv

    NEEDS MORE GIANT PIG! <p>But not an origin story of the GIANT PIG. That would be shit.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Ripley Said it PERFECTLY......

    by JaPra

    "Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?"

  • May 28, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST

    Maybe Wolverine will fight the Aliens

    by fanboy71

    While Deadpool sits back and tries to figure out how four foot swords fit in his forearms. I just loath FOX.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    WHAT

    by TITBAG

  • May 28, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Summer Glau as Ellen Ripley!

    by Jack_Bauer

    You know it makes sense

  • May 28, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Don't tell me fish stories, Kiddo

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    As long as, in the new "Voyage Home" we can have the aquarium guy get slapped again, I'll be happy.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    I do agree with that though

    by emteem

    There will be no "new" Star Trek stories in the new continuity. There will be Kahn, and Mirror Mirror and probably Borg.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Tom Rothman needs to eat a dick

    by D.Vader

    If this was his decision. Good Lord, this studio...

  • May 28, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Alien vs Predator vs Terminator

    by JohnRyder

    vs Freddy vs King Kong vs Superman vs Dracula vs Dinosoaurs vs Transformers vs Ash vs Gremlins. That moive would be fun (in a LSD soaked feverdream kinda way)

  • May 28, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Summer Glau as the chick on my dick

    by JohnRyder

    makes much more sense

  • May 28, 2009, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Coming Soon: Don Giovanni - Origins

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    18th century childhoods are being raped.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    Okay, at first glance, this sounds like a terrible, terrible id

    by D.Vader

    But, for years Ridley has talked about wanting to visit the Alien's homeworld or origin... This really *could* be good if done right... But Fox's track record so far suggests otherwise.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Bible remake Needed

    by theKip

    I think the bible needs a reboot as well. But really if this reboot or remake is simply the story of Ripley on the Nostromo or a very similar story, its just not necessary. Ridley Scott created a near perfect movie on many levels with Alien in terms of visual effects, story, tension, characters, etc. About the only wonky thing at least from a visual standpoint was the Alien getting blasted out of the Narcissus. Beyond that you can watch Alien today and believe it was made recently. Now I think they should reboot the series following Alien and Aliens. Get back on track because Alien 3 and 4 just went in a completely different wacky direction from the series. I liked the 4th movie but it was less an Aliens movie and more some wacky French comic book. Which is what happens when you have the City of the Lost Children people involved.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Alien 5: No Salvation

    by I AM ROCKO

    As flawed as Alien R is, it did some interesting ideas, visuals, and a good performance from Ripley and to be honest the ending where she looks upon she does not know or recognise, the fact she does not know or recognise her old self, and is learning about her new self is a good ending to the series of films, ultimately showing how her world has been changed forever by this creature and she has to start again. As someone said about, these films have been about RIPLEY as much as the creature. So all in all, the saga, with its highs, its lows is done, it has its place in cinema history, the films will always be revisited due to the strengths of the first two, gave us a truly iconic female character and does not require rebooting, redoing, rewhatever the fuck Hollywood wants to do it. Please for the love of god let it all stop, and let old Ripley rest in peace, and new Ripley find herself. Sniff!

  • May 28, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    This isn't a new phenomenon.

    by Orbots Commander

    Over the years, including during the Hollywood Golden Age, many 'franchise' film characters were rebooted, from Tarzan, Zorro and Philip Marlowe to Dracula, Frankenstein the Wolf Man and on and on. Let's stop pretending this is new. Quality forgives all. If the new versions are good, not just mediocre or good enough, but really GOOD movies, then I'm game. Where this falls down is that Fox looooooves them some mediocrity. Wasn't Rothman quoted as saying that he doesn't care about quality?

  • May 28, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    They're rebooting TOMB RAIDER too...

    by D.Vader

    "Producer Dan Lin stopped to chat with About.com about some of his upcoming projects, particularly the planned reboot of the “Lara Croft” series (popularly known as an adaptation of the “Tomb Raider” series of video games. Lin describes the project as a “character-oriented… more realistic” origin story for the popular treasure seeker. He clarifies shortly after that, comparing what he intends to be “character-driven action” in the “Croft” reboot to what audiences saw in last weekend’s “Terminator Salvation.”" <p> Fucking BULLSHIT. If you wanted it to be character driven and realistic, why didn't you do that the FIRST FUCKING TIME. <p> I just loooooove how these producers try and shift any blame away from how they fucked up the film the first time by suggesting they're going to do something more "realistic" and "Character-oriented" with this one, all but acknowledging they didn't bother with those qualities the first time. <p> Or they pretend the original film DIDNT have those qualities (when in reality they did). Producers of the Nightmare on Elm St remake, I'm looking at you.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    And Bible stories WERE remade, over and over.

    by Orbots Commander

    I've lost count how many versions of the Christ story have been made since Demille's silent era, black and white King Of Kings.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    ROCKO

    by Lost Jarv

    you've just given them the title. <P>Thanks.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    BOOOOOOOO!!! BOOOOOOOO!!! BOOOOOOOO!!!

    by Toilet_Terror

    BOOOOOOOO!!! BOOOOOOOO!!! BOOOOOOOO!!! BOOOOOOOO!!! BOOOOOOOO!!! BOOOOOOOO!!! Why doesn't he remake The Duelists and Blade Runner while he's at it?

  • May 28, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    FOR THE LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE

    by thewizardofoz

    PLEASE STOP WITH THE FUCKING REBOOTS! I've been wanting an alien sequel for forever! NOOOOOOOOO! WHY MUST YOU CONTINUE TO RAPE ME FOX!?!?

  • May 28, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Quint's third paragraph got it: TEEEEEENS

    by kabong

    There would be no point even for the Scott brothers to pitch "Alien" whatever unless the pitch focus is on what Hollyweird conceptualizes as TEEEEEEEN appeal.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    I blame the terrible fucking people

    by Toilet_Terror

    who go to the cinemas and pay to watch these fucking remakes. You can all go fuck yourselves.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    The Tomb Raider reboot

    by Droid

    As a mark of the quality that producer is going for, he said he's trying to get Megan Fox to star.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Orbots

    by Lost Jarv

    there is a difference between an adaptation- which all the examples you've given are- and a remake. <P>If Alien were a novel and this was merely another interpretation of it (as in The Thing or the countless Bodysnatchers/ Puppet Masters attempts) then I'd be irritated, but would dismiss it as "won't be as good as the first attempt". <P>However, it's another attempt at a near perfect film- one without any non-cinema source material. <P>Therefore, what they are attempting is almost certain to fail. <P>Seriously, for every good remake (not adaptation)you mention, I'll mention a shite one, and I bet you run out first.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Tomb Raider

    by Lost Jarv

    the film Rhona Mitra was born to make. <P>Bet she isn't in it.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Tomb Raider remake

    by Lost Jarv

    how do they keep fucking this up? it's Indiana Jones with tits, for fuck's sake.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    sorry but any Alien is a good thing.....

    by j2talk

    same went for FF,wolverine, star Trek etc... ..I'd rather have the film made than not....getting an enjoyble film is priority, getting a good film is hoped for, getting a great film is damn near impossible and not really expected....in the end if i didn't feel like i got ripped off for my $5 or that I'd have gotten more enjoyment out of wathcing a rerun of CSI then I'll be happy..

  • May 28, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Rothman & FOX

    by Godzookys_Dead

    20th Century Fox has become the penultimate Studio for Shit Films and a complete lack of Vision, Creativity and Integrity. IF anything NEEDS a REBOOT it's FOX itself.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by I AM ROCKO

    Soz mate, didnt think about that.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:41 a.m. CST

    What, now a Boob...I mean Tomb Raider

    by I AM ROCKO

    reboot? Seriously. This stuff is really getting out of hand, I mean Hollywood loves it sequels and series of films from the beginning but this rebooting stuff is crossing the line. Didnt the last Tomb Raider game underperform in sales? Didnt the last Tomb Raider film tank? Both equal= NO ONE GIVES A SHIT.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    j2talk

    by Lost Jarv

    $5? Knew you were a teenager. Bet you liked AvP too. <P>Congrats, you're exactly Fox's target audience of educationally failed future white trash. <P>Thanks from all of us.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:44 a.m. CST

    you are welcome

    by j2talk

    never pay more than 5 for a film

  • May 28, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    I love Giger's Alien, so I'm always happy to see more of it.

    by a goonie

    And I think that the Ripley character has been used up. I love Sigourney, but after dying AND being cloned for an entire movie, I don't think there's much else for her to do. So I'm okay with a new Alien flick if it delivers the goods in a big way. A new cast of characters floating around in space getting picked off one by one? We've seen it before, but a smart director could make something out of this once more. That said, if it's PG-13 and filled with annoying teens and questionable CGI, then that will clearly suck hard.<br><br>But I love that damn race of evil Aliens, so I'm hoping that a new movie can pay tribute to the original movies and not piss all over the legacy.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    avp was bad

    by j2talk

    but considering the source material i wasnt expecting much...the novel was better,but then it usually is

  • May 28, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    nope.

    by Mechasheeva

    Unless Ridley's directing and it focuses on the poor folks who sent out that warning beacon in Alien and Tom Rothman dies horribly before pre-production starts.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Why not reboot the bible too

    by orcus

    Throw in some aliens or something

  • May 28, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    sorry Lost Jarv but you expect too much

    by j2talk

    no wonder you arent happy with the finished films...

  • May 28, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Gruntybear

    by D.Vader

    The new Star Trek was nothing like what "Dawson's Trek" would have been like. There was no bullshit high school drama that could have been had the entire film been set in the Academy. If you're going to insult the film, insult it proper. Otherwise, it makes it sound like you never saw the film in the first place.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Actually, what I find most depressing about that

    by Lost Jarv

    post of yours is that it just reeks of having no desire for quality at all. It's people like you that mean 2 and a half men is still going. Or shite like Transformers gets made.<P>You are the Lowest Common Denominator

  • May 28, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    And you can not blame Star Trek for this

    by D.Vader

    Not after Casino Royale and Batman Begins/The Dark Knight made obscene amounts of money too. Its a long-going trend that didn't just start with Trek.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Not happy?

    by Lost Jarv

    all the films that you give a pass to are unmitigated horseshit (With the exception of Iron Man). This isn't about expecting too much- it's that they are not a fun way to spend a couple of hours. With the exception of Iron Man. And before you say "blah blah blah Shakespeare" that is a pathetic argument used by the hard of thinking to excuse their abysmal taste.<P>I can't believe the likes of Van Helsing has been mentioned in an Alien conversation.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    They keep fucking up Tomb Raider because...

    by D.Vader

    They keep going for empty spectacle, trying to copy Indiana Jones' sense of adventure, only they leave out all the character, which is what gets you invested in said spectacle. Otherwise, its soulless, and no one gives a shit. <p> So its not that the producer is wrong- the film SHOULD be character driven- but its bullshit because if he was actually concerned with that, the first films would not have been so shitty. I don't buy any of the crap coming out of his wordhole on this one.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Ripley wakes up from the dream

    by bobbofatz

    from prolonged hyper sleep. Parts 3 and 4 erased. This would explain weavers aging. Newt and hicks are still alive. Start over. Someone mentioned her going to alien planet to eradicate them forever. Have Expendables type team to go into battle. Someone mentioned Boyle. Yes. Only if it feels like 28 days later. Get the script guys from original alien or predator and make it dark and creepy as hell. Please direct my royalties into my paypal account.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Casino Royale/ Batman Begins

    by Lost Jarv

    were arguably necessary after the utter mess that their series were in. <P>Alien was in no such mess- you can just ignore AvP as it isn't an "Alien" film.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Vader

    by Lost Jarv

    The first Tomb Raider WAS an attempt at character driven. Except they didn't have a clue how to do it, so tacked on that dreadful shite with her father. <P>He's clearly lying.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    NONONONONONONONONONO!!!

    by TurdontheRun

    That is all.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    couldnt care less, but it doesnt rape my childhood

    by BMacSmith

    i dont give a shit about remakes anymore. the old Alien still holds up perfectly, and i dont need this. but at the same time i'm not all up in arms about it. they remake everything nowadays, and i dont feel the need to see every one that gets made, unlike most geeks.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Batman didn't start with Tim Burton's shitty film

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    Thus, its not the same. Batman is an icon - like any folklore character - doing a new and proper take on the icon of Batman is not the same as redoing mediocre franchises like Predator or Alien.

  • May 28, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    Also, Star Wars isn't the same

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    The prequels weren't a reboot - just new chapters in the same story.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Tomb Raider was never anything but an Indy ripoff

    by BMacSmith

    it sucks because its just a ripoff with tits and ass added in to replace characters. THat worked fine with video games made in the 90s.<p>Tomb Raider is a movie adapted from a video game that was adapted from a movie. of course its gonna be shitty.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    A poor attempt yes

    by D.Vader

    But was it a poor attempt becuse they picked shit writers and director? Or was it a poor attempt because they just wanted to create the "illusion" of having some character depth?

  • May 28, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Casino Royale WAS necessary.

    by V'Shael

    Before that, Bond was driving a fucking INVISIBLE car. <p> And they hired fucking MADONNA to play a role. <p> That series needed a reboot in the worst possible fucking way.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    CAR 54, WHERE ARE YOU - THE REMAKE

    by DatoMan413

    RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT, LAUGH! REMEMBER WHO F#$kIN' TOLD YA THIS!<BR><BR>Seeeeriously, a remake of ALIEN? Probably proposed by some prat that wasn't born when the thing debuted on free TV and thinks "yeh, that would be KEWL to do a remake of THAT!"<BR><BR>Some crap just needs to be left alone. Okay, I will now brace for the torrent of "Ah you're too old and you should accept a new take on an old story" posts.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Why can't they remake bad movies . . .

    by Royston Lodge

    . . . and make them better?!<p> I think Capricorn One would be a great candidate for a remake. It's a really neat idea that wasn't executed very well the first time around, particularly with the ending and the OJ factor (though Sam Waterson as a smart-ass was kinda cool).<p> The 50s, 60s and 70's were chock-full of sci-fi movies where they took a really neat premise and turned it into a really awful movie. Remake some of those!!!<p> It may not work out as well as one might have hoped (like I Am Legend), but at least it's a more worthy goal!

  • May 28, 2009, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Make it stop, make it stop!

    by jeffv

    And, really, what's the difference between a reboot and remake? It's like the discovery of a new word allowed them to do it all over again. It wasn't like every remake was shot for shot before someone "discovered the reboot".

  • May 28, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    For the love of all that is fucking holy...

    by guido505

    NO!!!! Fucking Hollywood. Why the hell do they feel the need to constantly ass rape our childhoods? There is no way this turns out better than the original.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:14 a.m. CST

    3D will spawn dozens of remakes like this

    by ebolamonkey

    As studios go 3D, they'll remake anything and everything.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Awesome.

    by i.baronvladimir

    Rob Zombie to direct! He'll be fresh off the soon to be monumental triumph of H2. Sheri Moon as Ripley, of course. Maybe . . . wow, maybe I'm going too far with this one, it's a little edgy and different, I know, but . . . how about replacing the alien with a human being? Think about it, what's more monstrous, a monster, or a man, preferably an inbred, mutated man from the deep south, acting the monster? Festus, from the WWE, would be my vote. To be the alien. In Rob Zombie's reboot of Alien. From Fox.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Only one fucking way to remake this movie

    by Continentalop

    Just fucking re-release the movie back into the theaters and tell all the dumb people who are not aware of movies before 1997 that it is this "new" flick starring this up-and-coming actress with a great ass by the name of Sigourney Weaver.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    why are you all so pissed?

    by BMacSmith

    its not like the ALien franchise has not been skullfucked to death by now. as far as i'm concerned, there were two Alien movies. the other swhit movies and this remake does nothing to lessen Alien and Aliens. and i seriously doubt the money being sunk into this shit would be put to good use on another movie. these are products, not films. <p>dont worry about it. just dont see it. oh wait, i forgot you sheep will watch absolutely anything no matter how bad.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Is there any corpse Hollywood wont rape?

    by A for Aristocrat

    At what point did the world run out of original ideas? At least in the old days they would just churn out sequels. Now that is even too hard. Just reboot everything. (fuck Fox)

  • May 28, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Honestly, someone just needs to kill Tim Rothman.

    by Sardonic

    Seriously. Put a bullet in his brain.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:22 a.m. CST

    ALIEN

    by alcester

    Scott should make a prequel about the SPACE JOCKEY. and no stupid teenagers in it. all new adult cast.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    New Alien film - Yes. Reboot - No.

    by blackwood

    Nothing needs 'rebooting' - there was never any origin story for Alien. The 'mythology' is about Ripley. And there is absolutely no need to revisit Ripley - I liked Resurrection okay and thought it gave an interesting direction for the series to go in (and Sigourney Weaver was characteristically amazing; her performance is the saving grace of the film).<br><br> I don't mind the studio walking away from that and developing another Alien film. But leave Ripley alone, tell us a new story about Alien(s). As movie monsters they are iconic enough in themselves that there doesn't need to be any other 'character' anchor to previous iterations in the franchise.<br><br>The 'universe' of Alien is also compelling - the Company, Androids, terraforming, deep space exploration by blue collar folk - and both it and the Aliens still have vast amounts of narrative and metaphorical potential completely outside the confines of a Ripley story.<br><br>Of course if Sigourney Weaver is involved I am in. But otherwise, just go off on all that was unexplored - which was quite a lot.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    In space, no-one can hear you scream "stop fucking remaking thin

    by photoboy

    Ridley's remake of The Andromeda Strain turned out so well I'm sure we're all really, really super excited about this!<br><br> Fox better not fucking dare to remake Aliens. You do not fuck with perfection.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    I saw Alien when it was released back in 04 or 05

    by D.Vader

    Met my brother, who was still in college, at the theater, and he brought all his friends, many of which had never seen it before. It was a great experience.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Even with Ridley attached, I'm still very doubtful

    by Kief_Ledger

    this will be any good. It's been 23 years since there has been a good Alien film. And with Rothman still head of that studio do you really think he'll allow this to be anything like Alien? Think if Scott made that movie for Rothman today. It would've been cut down to 90 minutes and about half as scary as it is. Fuck Rothman. Fuck Fox.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    if they remake Alien

    by dioxholster

    I'll kill everyone.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Reboot The Pacifier!

    by Falafalguy

    Come on Fox! Give us what we want!

  • May 28, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    those commercials are absolutely generic & horrible

    by awepittance

  • May 28, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    I don't care if ridley scott did sign on for this

    by mthrndr

    He may have made Blade Runner and Alien, but more recently he made "A very good year", one of the worst films of the decade. And who could forget "White Squall" with Beau(?) Bridges?

  • May 28, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Can I ask a small favor from you guys?

    by Continentalop

    Can we please just kill the expression "raped my childhood" or any joke referencing rape when they do a remake? It is just tasteless as hell, and not funny at all. <p> Not that I think any subject matter should be off limit for a joke, even rape ("Where's Poppa" had a great joke on the subject), I think comparing remakes to rape is just way off. You might hate a remake of Alien, but it isn't going to traumatize you for life. And if it does, maybe you are living too sheltered of life. <p>

  • May 28, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    OW! Stupid jerking knee!

    by JohnSpartan

    Look, I understand the business reasoning behind revamping an established brand. It comes with built-in product awareness and saves on your advertising budget. Plus, people feel obligated to go check the thing out, even if they have (in some cases severe) reservations, so the B.O. generally ends up pretty good, even for (for God's sake) Wolverine, which everyone knew was crap a month before it came out. And the thing still killed Trek, one of the best reviewed movies of the year so far (which itself was a reboot or an established brand with a built-in critic-proof fanbase) I understand all that. BUT FOR GOD'S SAKE, CAN I GET SOME NEW MONSTERS PLEASE?! What did it take to finally kill off the Universal monsters from the 30s and 40s? Oh sure, one them crops up every five or ten years or so, but the next great spate of original monster movies I would assert began with Alien and then continued through Freddy and Jason, and Predator. Sadly, based on history, since it took roughly 40 years to get from Dracula and The Wolfman to Alien and Predator, I can only conclude that it's going to be another 20 years or so until we see the next spate of original, iconic monsters. But I'm throwing the gauntlet down Hollywood! Let's see those suckers in the next 5. Barring that, let's forego the slow decay of beloved icons in trash like AvP:R:QST and sometimes Y. Let's go whole hog! I want to see Abbott and Costello Meet Aliens and Predator by 2012!

  • May 28, 2009, 11:46 a.m. CST

    Ridley only

    by donkey_lasher

    But the studios would probably prefer someone cheaper who knows fuck all about making Sci Fi Horror.<p> I can see this being an amalgamation of Alien and Aliens.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Time to call in Chris Cunningham.

    by Azlam Orlandu

    Seriously, that bloke needs a shot at an Alien film.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    No more reboots, prequels, etc.

    by Tin Snoman

    Until I see BUCKAROO BANZAI AGAINST THE WORLD CRIME LEAGUE.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    nononononoo

    by Second Try

    The only way to be sure

  • May 28, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Wait, the director gives you hope?

    by smatt584

    Right, because FOX has no history of fucking over talented up-and-coming directors and turning potentially great flicks to shit. Yeah, a real beacon of hope, that is.

  • May 28, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Need a Transformers reboot

    by disfigurehead

    With some talent in front and behind the camera.

  • May 28, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Remake Star Wars ANH!

    by Mutley26

    Why not?

  • May 28, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    I have to believe...

    by Hugh G Rekshun

    ...that Ridley Scott will not allow this movie to suck. Ridley...are you listening? Please DO NOT fuck this up.

  • May 28, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Snoman

    by JohnSpartan

    FUCK YEAH

  • May 28, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Sweet Action Hero

    Have a mexican coke and shut the fuck up. nothing here is tasteful. that's why its so damn funny.

  • May 28, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    I agree with Tin Snoman

    by STLost

    We need Buckaroo Banzai Against The World Crime League!

  • May 28, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    How about an Aliens reboot also

    by mrplowking

    ...directed by Stephen Sommers. I hate all the bean counters and decision makers at Fox. It's like a rudderless ship for fuck's sake. These assholes get paid MILLIONS of dollars, and all they can keep coming up with is "reboots" of classic films that were already made right the first time around?!? Go fuck yourselves.

  • May 28, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Sweet Action Hero

    by Continentalop

    Sorry for daring people to be a little more original that comparing a bad remake to rape. Thought we were men here.

  • May 28, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Continentalop, Go fist yourself!

    by Keeper Of Chimps

  • May 28, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    FUCK THIS SHIT FUCK THIS SHIT FUCK THIS SHIT

    by HarryBlackPotter

    This has got to be a joke. This is not even fucking funny. Here's funny: Yo mama's so old that her pussy is haunted.

  • May 28, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    keeper of chimps

    by Continentalop

    Your statement just strengthens my argument. I politely ask people to refrain from making the comparison, and of course the dipshits have to jump in because, you know, if you can't compare a bad remake to the act of rape, of jeez, talk about an injustice. <p> Tough guys.

  • May 28, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    See?

    by Continentalop

    At least HarryBlackPotter can be original AND clever.

  • May 28, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Whatr next, remaking Doctor Who on the big screen?

    by HarryBlackPotter

    Actually, this is probably gonna happen.

  • May 28, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    In Tom Rothman's dungeon no one can hear you scream...

    by moviemaniac-7

    AAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH! Reading this makes me act like Bill Paxton when he realizes that this shit is serious: "You can count me out."

  • May 28, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    I liked Alien 3 and Resurrection

    by slone13

    <p>Fuck you if you don't.</p> <p>Good day.</p>

  • May 28, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Rambo vs. Alien

    by theoyboy

    Stallone says he wants to take Rambo out of his element and put him in a new genre.<p> You know you want it!!!

  • May 28, 2009, 1:07 p.m. CST

    fuckinfoxfuckinfoxfuckinfoxfuckinfoxfuckinfox

    by Keith Maniac

    FUCK i am sick of this, ALIEN "CLASSIC" landmark, end of, ALIENS "CLASSIC+" awesome, ALIEN 3 "alright-ish" (the expanded dvd version in the quadrilogy box set), ALIEN 4 "WORSE THAN CHILD MOLESTATION". The first 2 were classics because talented people were allowed to work on these efforts without a fucking studio worrying about what FUCKING teenagers might like. FOX, STOP TEARING THE SHIT BOX OUT OF THINGS I USED TO LIKE, FUCKING STOP IT. IF YOU HAVE TO DO THIS "REBOOT" (EQUALLY SICK OF THAT WORD) LOOK AT THE ORIGINALS AND THINK !

  • May 28, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    FUCK OFF FOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by Darkplanet

    You don't fucking reboot "Alien"! That's like rebooting the Godfather. This reboot hell is going to seriously backfire on Fox. I for one am fucking tired of the lack of originality. FUCKING ASSHOLES!!!

  • May 28, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    THEY THEY CAN SHOW ME FUTURE FUCKIN WAR!!!!!

    by Six Demon Bag

    fuck this.

  • May 28, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    For those who get mad at those getting mad about remakes...

    by Cellar Door

    For those who get mad at those getting mad about remakes...<p>Perhaps you just don't 'love' movies like most of us? This is not a bad thing either way mind you but perhaps it explains both your ambivalence and the, in your view, undue concerns of others?<p>I think of this example: once, a million years ago, as a wee rat, I worked nights stocking groceries with a crew of about 10 to 12 people g-or-t. A friend would bring in his boombox and we'd play tapes/cds over the PA all night. One day he forgot his boombox and we had an argument about listening to nothing versus listening to the pumped in elevator 'muzak' the store normally played thru the PA. As I watched people arguing over listening to the most dreadful shite ever(come on, it's fucking ELEVATOR music for chrisschex!) as opposed to nothing it struck me. How can this be? All of them freely admitted to hating muzak yet they wanted to listen to it?! As in silence is actually worse than music you hate? I simply do not understand that desperation; that need to occupy absence with something even if that something is the least desirable thing to fill that absence. A pessimistic "better than nothing" approach does not lend itself to the mindset of a music lover to me. Just someone who prefers noise to silence..quantity to quality, etc.<p>It occurred to me right on the spot that these people were not music lovers, but music listeners. Sure, they probably consider themselves music lovers but how can you call yourself a lover of music, a connoisseur if you will, who will gladly listen to "music" you hate as opposed to silence? Again, these people admitted to hating 'muzak' but yet they were perfectly happy to listen to it as opposed to nothing. wtf?!<p>You guys pushing this idea that complaining about remakes marks you as a asshole might stop to consider what you're actually denigrating is a true love for cinema. Not just a hobby or a pastime (as in just to pass the time) but love. Sometimes, like romantic love, it's overbearing and obsessive...sometimes it's cold and bereft of humanity but it's love none the less. Not love of quality for quality's sake...but love of cinema for love's sake!<p>I'd argue that all of you guys who slam people for reasonably knocking remakes or pg-13 films in R franchises, or even the neo-action-porn like Michael Bay's stuff, are simply movie watchers and not movie lovers.<p>Now, before I go off on the jackass personal, let me say that on it's own, this is perfectly fine. I like to read. Some people don't. It doesn't mean I'm smart and they're not. Easy to assume arrogance either way but the truth really comes down to opinion. But when you attack other opinions and act as if your opinion either is, or should be, common knowledge, then you show yourself to be an jackass. Especially if you give no reasons other than the implied 'it is because I said it' bullshit.<p>Now for my take (re: jackassery included); perhaps you are fine with least common denominator production values and story content. Perhaps you don't mind a non-existent story as long as a beautiful girl's boobs are all over the screen. Perhaps you don't mind a lack of discernible plot if the actions scenes make your jaw drop. Perhaps you can enjoy cinema with no involvement but the visceral. That's fine but don't ruin it for the rest of us by implying your opinion is the only reasonable one to have.<p>I'd argue that we should be clamoring for films that have plot AND action that makes us drop our jaws in wonder. The fact that a lot of you actually attack people for actually wanting that and then have the nerve to say none of it matters...well, you don't love cinema and do not belong on this 'geek' movie website. No one invited you to come and knock what we all love...this is not the place for you, you will find no happiness here and your petulant rage at the opinions of others is unneeded by everyone except you. <p>State your case..back it up...or blow ass out of here champ. Just saying, without reason, that anybody who complains is a jackass is 'bag of hair' dumb. Yes, I impugned all of you but I gave reasons as to why I did so...what are your reasons? Other than just wanting to look cool in your own mind for being pointlessly righteous?<p>All jackassery aside...just answer me this: Why do you clamor for mediocrity and then attack those that don't?

  • May 28, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Re: jae683

    by WoodsUlmanndotcom

    ROFLMAO... ho-ly shit... that was DEAD ON. I love how they pulled a bait and switch on this one too... since it was first reported a month or so ago, I could have sworn all the stories had 'Rid' (as I love to Ivor Powell call him on the Alien/BR DVD extras) coming back to direct and Rothman salivating at such a prospect. Now it's Ridley and Tony Scott as overseers? I must say, that director's commercials looked pretty amazing. But I also think even if Ridley DID direct, he'd take it in a direction of 'commerce' as he likes to say in interviews. There's a lot of great interviews with him on youtube, I urge you to check them out. But 'commerce' to him likely means kow-towing to whatever the latest trends are which likely means Alien-formers with Megan Fox, and a bunch of other ninny teens running around a spaceship that looks like something from a music video. I'm just not sure he'd care about ruining it, the same way Spielberg went into Indy IV with the wrong mindset. There was an interview with Spielberg where he was whining that the reason they didn't make another one for so long is that all the other movies that came after Last Crusade had done pretty much every action set piece you could think of. Yeah, with bad CG and crazy MTV cutting... why do you think Raiders is considered a classic, Stevie? Is it because, I don't know, the fucking truck chase is REAL and you can actually FOLLOW it? Didn't TDK prove that a well-staged, realistic action sequence can still be infinitely more exciting than the shit you get in movies like Wolverine (the ending, especially)? You know what they should do... get Christopher Nolan to direct. I'd love to see his take on the Alien mythos. I'm sure he gets enough of that franchise pressure on Batman, so that's not likely. Anyway, I can hear the concept meetings for this now... "How about we... ok, I got it, I got it... this'll play to the teens... we get Megan Fox, we have her battle the aliens and all that typical shit to play to the teen boys, but to get the GIRLS, we'll have her fall in love with one of the aliens at the end and carry on this strange relationship with it ala Twilight! Yeah, that's the fucking ticket!!! Back up the Brinks trucks, we're gonna be rolling in it! <p>The truly sad thing here is that we're talking about yet another reboot or remake or sequel. Where the hell is the originality? Was every single possible idea for a superhero/fantasy/action movie exhausted in the period between, say, The Exorcist and Lord of the Rings? I'd say that pretty much bookends the period through which studios seem to think every conceivable original idea for a movie 'franchise' was created... I don't doubt that we'll soon see reboots of The Godfather (with Shia as Michael and... I don't fucking know, Keanu Reeves as the Don) and Jaws with a CG shark that grows legs and walks on water. And I'm sure that at some point, Lucas will need another few billion to fund all the shit he's building around San Francisco, so he'll 'open' up Star Wars to other writers and directors. That, however, is not necessarily a bad thing.

  • May 28, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    Mutley26

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    That already happened a few weeks ago...anywho, this sucks. A new Ripley? I guess that's what we should have expected from 20th Century Fucks.

  • May 28, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Can anyone name a good REMAKE??? REBOOT???

    by Six Demon Bag

    anyone? anyone?

  • May 28, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Wow, so fucking stupid...

    by DanielKurland

    Predator is a fun action movie. Granted an above average one. But you CAN remake that. Alien is fucking classic and there's no way that you'd improve it, so this is just incredibly redundant. Maybe if you went with their original plan of having Weaver running away from the Alien naked the entire time, but that's the only thing.

  • May 28, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST

    WHAT WE NEED IS...

    by thedoctor28

    A prequel of where derelict ship came from and the story that goes with it. WTF???!!!

  • May 28, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Actually, wouldn't mind AS MUCH if it's a prequel

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    I'd much prefer an Alien 5, (as much as I detested where the franchise went after the first two), but I could see a prequel working. Set it on an ocean/ice planet, and show us: a new , totally different strain of alien, living space jockeys, and have Ian Holm play an early model of the Ash robot. In fact, I'd like them to delve into the xeno's history, (like, the aliens were created to be bio-weapons by the jockeys, who needed them to fend off their initial attempt at a weapon, early humans, who were too violent and pathological to be controlled. Like, the Jockeys started screwing around with the chromosomes of early hominids, or something)...

  • May 28, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by thedoctor28

    The 1976 version of King Kong!!

  • May 28, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Good remakes...

    by DanielKurland

    Scorsese's Cape Fear works very well, and I actually think more people are aware of it than the original. There are a few others, which I'll try and think of...12 Angry Men is another. I guess Tenenbaums is KIND of a remake of the Magnificent Ambersons...

  • May 28, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Blame Star Trek

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

    recasting iconic characters to see what other cool, hip MTV actors can play them. Thanks JJ..you turd

  • May 28, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by imagin78

    DeMille's 1956 The Ten Commandments? Beats the hell out of me.

  • May 28, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Oh and Six Demon...

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

    2 words: Batman Begins

  • May 28, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Oh...

    by imagin78

    ...and Fuck you Fox.

  • May 28, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Also, let me just say:

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    Hire Legacy Effects for this, Fox, you fucks! And for the new Predator, too. ADI are nice guys, but that don't cut it when they fuck up and bullshit around. Or whatever the hell it was.

  • May 28, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Batman Begins

    by Rommel Catuncan

    got everyone reboot mad. They screwed up Fantastic Four, let's try again. Superman, let's try again. Star Trek...Now I'm like, stop saying that word. Reboot. Shut up. This sounds more like a prequel. I also fear that it will have too many humans not enough aliens/space jockeys.

  • May 28, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    6DB, some would say Scareface

    by Continentalop

    Although I prefer the original, 1930s version. <p> And then there is The Thing, The Fly, The Maltese Falcon (made twice before the classic 1941 version), Casino Royale (I am a fan of the reboot, hates QOS though), the remake of Ocean's 11, etc.

  • May 28, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Have Fincher do it...

    by DanielKurland

    Then everyone can shut up about Alien3, and we'll see if this guy can make a good Alien film. This is one of the few solutions I would support.

  • May 28, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    I want a junior Alien

    by Rommel Catuncan

    with tha quips.

  • May 28, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Other good remakes...

    by DanielKurland

    I think Vanilla Sky works VERY well, and I suppose this is cheating, but Haneke's 2008 Funny Games works just as well as the original, and Roth and Watts do great performances.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    by blakindigo

  • May 28, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    INGREDIENTS FOR A GOOD ALIEN FILM

    by Anything But Tangerines

    1 slow spaceship intro; at least 5 disparate personalities to bounce around; 1 of them an android; at least 1 tough young female; 2 chestburster shots; 5-10 aliens max; 1 crazy ass alien; 1 crazy ass crew member; 3-5 shots of alien bearing teeth and drooling effusively; 1 shot of an alien mouth-stabbing a dude; corporate motives; MILITARY FETISHISM; and last but not least, CONSISTENT use of ACIDIC BLOOD for crying out FUCKING loud!

  • May 28, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    reboots / remakes still = rehash.

    by FleshMachine

    seriously.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Once again - Star Trek is not really a reboot

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    A reboot is like pretending the Eric Bana Hulk didn't exist and starting again. The new Star Trek actually takes into account the previous Star Treks and (fairly masterfully) works a plot where we get an alternate timeline. Those of you that keep calling it "MTV" or "Dawson's Trek" - I'm wondering if you actually saw it or if you are just blindly reacting to the fact that there are young, attractive people in the movie. Maybe they should have cast morbidly obese couch-sitting geeks instead.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    WTF! I thought I was reading a headline from the Onion...

    by kravmaguffin

    I heard that the reboot will be with old Ripley time traveling to visit young Ripley (played by Megan Fox) and thus creating an alternate timeline...true story.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:10 p.m. CST

    The ALIEN reboot isn't for YOU, it's for....

    by jawsfan

    ...it's for the teenage crowd with disposable dollars that didn't grow up with the original films and really doesn't care if you remake ALIEN or not. It WILL be a PG-13 teen-fest with CGI, lots of rapid editing, and an incoherent or irrelevant plot. The ONLY thing that matters is that it brings in big bucks on its opening weekend. FAR more time and attention will be paid to making a compelling trailer than in making a good film. That's the way of the world. Those of you who bemoan the dearth of solid movie-making on a big scale, well that's why we have our beloved and cherished DVD libraries at home. The music business has gone to shit, so we listen to our old records from decades past. Same with the movie business -- no one in H'wood gives a shit if it's any good. It just has to have a strong opening weekend. "But it is such a shame that...." Yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree. It is. But welcome to the new world. You don't have to like it, but you do have to live with it. There are still plenty of great movies being made (mostly small, under-the-radar films). But the age of the large-scale, high-profile masterpiece is over.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Definition of reboot versus remake

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    Reboot = pretending the previous didn't exist and starting again (Incredible Hulk). Remake = redoing the same story line in another movie (Cape Fear, Psycho)

  • May 28, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    typo in my last post

    by jawsfan

    I wrote "but you do have to live with it". I meant to say "but you do have to live IN [emphasis added] it".

  • May 28, 2009, 2:13 p.m. CST

    I guess Ridley came form the Ad world, but...

    by DC Films

    It turned out he understood storytelling, character development, could direct actors to get the right performance and had an intelligent sense of humor. Maybe this guy has a sense of humor, but if these ads are a clue to his vision of Alien, then it'll probably just go to cement the original as a true unrepeatable classic. Maybe they good bribe Geiger to get involved to re-invest the monster, rather than just copying his again, like another crappy Cola logo version of the original.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Asimov, who was a teen in the new Star Trek?

    by D.Vader

    Chekov. That was it.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Give it to Rob Zombie...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...because surely someone who actually thinks that STAR TREK was turned into a "TEEEEEENS" movie would find Zombie's deconstruction of the Xenomorph's upbringing to be a cinematic masterstroke, eh AssimovLives?

  • May 28, 2009, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Rebooting Alien & Predator...Fox wins...We lose.

    by Meta

    Maybe in this candy coated CG-PG 13 world we'll have a friendly Alien character who helps out our lost teensters to find there way off this planet. And they'll call him Mr. Tinkywinks.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    ALIEN 1.5, a companion film

    by GavinVanDraven

    we see what happened to the colony on LV426. no need for a reboot. story fits snugly between "Ripley floats in space" and "Ripley travels to LV426 again"

  • May 28, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST

    He means Felicity...

    by DanielKurland

    He does.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Just get it over with Fox.

    by imagin78

    Just remake Titanic with Zac Efron and Vanessa Hudgens already. There is a huge market of 12-year-old girls out there who haven't seen the original.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Oh...

    by imagin78

    ...and Fuck you Fox.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Alien 1.5

    by I am_NOTREAL

    But we saw what happened to the colony on LV426...it is in the Director's Cut...enough of it anyway...what's left wouldn't be enough for a movie

  • May 28, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    That Titanic idea is brilliant....

    by DanielKurland

    It would do so, so well. Queen Latifah as the voice of the iceberg.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Continentalop

    I haven't seen the new Trek, but let me ask you this: does anyone act all angst ridden and feel as if they are meant for great things but don't know what it is yet? Because that is one of the first signs you are making a movie for teenagers. If they mention destiny you might have a teenager movie (teenagers love the thought they are destined for greatness -be it pro athlete, rock star or movie star - but don't like the idea they actually have to work for it and suffer to get there).

  • May 28, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Alien was always more adult than Trek

    by I am_NOTREAL

    even the cartoonish and stupid Resurrection. So yeah, the criticism of a TEEN'd Alien while not attacking Star Trek for the same perceived crime is perfectly valid.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Asimov, once again you can't compare Batman and Star Trek

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    The Tim Burton shitfest Batman movies are not the end all be all Batman storyline. Nolan didn't have to justify himself- he just finally made a good movie out of the best comic superhero. He didn't have to pay any props to purple Tommy Lee Jones 2 face. THAT wasn't Batman. What he DID have to do was respect the plot of the REAL Batman - which was the comic. Star Trek on the other hand, only exists as the Gene Rodenberry/Shatner/Nemoy thing - thus, its a different deal having to keep that universe in tact. You fat fucking fanboys wouldn't have been satisfied either way.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Continentalop, are you still here raping us?

    by Keeper Of Chimps

  • May 28, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Can I whisper it again so that some Fox Executive might hear and steal the idea...<p> Set it on the Alien home world.<p> Let's see the flora and fauna of that place.<p> Let's see gigantic aliens and crazy giger inspired nightmares we've never even imagined.<p> Let's see a tale of derring do and adventure as a spaceship of scientists gets sucked through a wormhole and jettisoned onto this planet.<p> Mystery, exploration, action, survival, and escape - all the atributes the original ALIEN had but served up in a genuinely new way.<p> Who's with me!

  • May 28, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by D.Vader

    When did Sulu act like a teen? <p> When did Uhura act like a teen? <p> Or Scotty for that matter? My friend, you are just projecting for the most part.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Star Wars

    by imagin78

    Thank God, Fox doesn't own the rights to Star Wars or they might be compelled to touch those...Oh, wait.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Oh...

    by imagin78

    ...and Fuck you Fox.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Keeper of Chimps

    by Continentalop

    I think you need to start fantasizing about something else. Ain't gonna happen.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Alien is one of the best sci-fi movies of all time!

    by TheWaqman

    Beating out Star Wars and the like. This is fucking disappointing news.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    AAAAAARGH

    by RipleysPubisMound

    Ripley's Pubis Mound would be very upset at this news

  • May 28, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Keeper of Chimps

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Zachary Quinto was on some talk show and called Trek a "reboot". I didn't watch this movie, but that's what he said, which surprised me. <p> The Incredible Hulk does take into account the Ang Lee Hulk in some ways- the South American jungle, the characters. <p> There's a bit of a mixture in some cases with the term "reboot". Some start completely fresh. Some don't. That's why I'm sick of the word. It's like the latest catchphrase for anything. A pure, complete reboot can be a good thing. But that is only usually the case when the last series was crap and/or had degenerated into some freaky, convoluted thing- like Batman and Robin. Or was wrongly conceived in the first place e.g. Fantastic Four.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Re: ALIEN Remake

    by ArmageddonProductions

    Sadly, I called this over in the FLIGHT OF THE NAVIGATOR talkback ... I was just hoping we'd have six months to a year before it finally came down the pike. Jesus H. Christ. JAWS is next, then, THE EXORCIST. Desperation knows no bounds. Oh, and keep your eyes peeled for Lucas to announce remakes of STAR WARS IV-VI. I think the only thing we can hope for, at this point, is for Hollywood to implode like it did back in Seventies and take much of the studio system with it.

  • May 28, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Remember when Fox had a better rep than Warners

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Ah, the '90s...

  • May 28, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    re: the scotts' involvement

    by JAMF

    i'm not happy about the scotts being on board for this one - i'd rather they washed their hands of it like cameron with terminator - have some respect for your own films ridley!! on the other hand, cameron had nothing to do with t4 and concensus says its a big bowl of ass - so maybe he shoulda stuck around? just promise me the new leading lady is a hot (no bulldykes please) lesbian with big tits. it's 2009 guys! you cant do a strong female character without jiggly hooters and tribbing!

  • May 28, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Don't do this Fox. Remake the Star Wars prequels.

    by hallmitchell

    How many times do i go to this site and read about a reboot. Why don't they just call it stuffing up a once great film's reputation.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Fox fanfare.

    by imagin78

    Remember when the Fox logo fanfare meant great things to come? God, how I miss those days. I pray that Cameron can restore some luster to that opening come December.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Oh...

    by imagin78

    ...and Fuck you Fox.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    please fox leave it alone

    by poopoohumor

    fox has become incapable of handling these franchises. there should be some sort of intervention.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Cobra-Kai

    by Rommel Catuncan

    An Giger-inspired/designed nightmarish alien homeworld could be good. <p> It's just... the more they make of these the more they tamper with the mythology, like they did with AvP. If they build on the mythology, that would be good. But usually they mess up what we already know.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Isn't it time to start bashing Jar Jar?

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    Or one of the other fat fanboy targets? Indiana Jones capuchin monkeys?

  • May 28, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Scott's involvement...

    by TurdontheRun

    will be no more than take the money and run. I bet it's no more than a token producer credit.<p>Coming soon - Blade Runner remake! Starring Shia La Boeuf as Deckard, and Keanu Reeves as Roy Batty!

  • May 28, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Re: AsimovLives

    by ArmageddonProductions

    My first exposure to LEGEND was the US cut with the Tangerine Dream score. I used to love that version, even snagged the soundtrack. In the mid-Nineties, they released Goldsmith's score on CD and I picked it up. For a Goldsmith score, it was very unremarkable, and compared to the "edgier" Tangerine Dream score and the Brian Ferry ending song, it left such a small impression on me that I actually gave it away. THEN, of course, I actually saw the director's cut of LEGEND with the Goldsmith score on it. I have not watched the US version since.</p><p> Scott used to be an incredible director, and he still occasionally fires off a great movie (KINGDOM OF HEAVEN), but even if he were directing this, I doubt anyone's gonna like the result. People use John Carpenter's THE THING or Cronenberg's THE FLY as examples of remakes that outdid the originals in every way, but everyone seems to forget that we're talking about Carpenter and Cronenberg, two geniuses that were at the height of their powers when they made them, and not some commercial/video director who's desperate enough to helm a feature that they do whatever the studio tells them to do, remaking movies that, even with today's spiffy CGI and makeup effects, are going to be a dismal shadow of the original.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Carl Rinsch got his start making a shit camera

    by drturing

    I'm not making this up. It's a camera that goes into toilets for plumbers. But with Ridley producing it gives me a modicum of hope. On the other hand, it's Fox, so this is guaranteed to be fucking garbage. Dear Fox, lately I've talked about how I couldn't give two shits for Watchmen and Terminator Salvation, two properties I love and worship. I have refused to see any Alien or Predator film since Alien Abortion. I will not be seeing a remake of a seminal classic that you've already degraded and humilated.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    My two least favorite words: "prequel" and "reboot"

    by Beezbo

    I used to think sequels sucked, but now I welcome them!

  • May 28, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    There wasn't a single reason to dislike Watchmen

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    The new ending worked fine. Outside of that, it was the same as the book. I don't get you fuckers!

  • May 28, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    NOTE TO FOX EXECUTIVES: YOU SUCK

    by MANNZILLA

  • May 28, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    BTW a PLAGUE UPON ALL AD DIRECTORS

    by drturing

    do you know why Cuaron and Del Toro and Cameron etc are the directors they are? Cause they weren't fucking directors forced to be humilated and to learn to kiss ass to suckups and fuckups at agencies and clients in the ad world. I'm telling you Michael Bay is a representative of the best the ad world can produce and I mean that as a compliment - he truly absolutely gets what ad people are looking for in a director. Those skills run totally contrary to what a good film is supposed to be. Ridley turned out to be allright because he rose up with the modern world of advertising and wasn't enslaved by the Chiat Day / Ogilvy Mather / Wieden Kennedy fiefdom of hackery and he has a background as a fucking painter. Everyone since has been a rich little shit who had the family money to make a reel that showed they could corral the stupidest most attention grabbing ideas in 30 seconds with an expensive crew. Fuck them all. I'm telling you, there is NOTHING more soul leaching, more vile, more prostitutional than directing ads for money. I've seen oscar winning geniuses have to take orders from fucking eurotrash douchenozzle morons. We're talking failed writers and musicians and artists who went into advertising cause they were good at maniuplating people. Fuck until I wrote this down I had no idea how much I hated that ad world.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Asimov, how about Chris Cunningham?

    by DC Films

    He made the Aphex Twins promos, including the bloody scary 'Come to daddy'. He worked closely with Kubrick on AI. He keeps threatening to make a feature (he almost made William Gibson's 'Nuronmancer' with Ridley Scott some years back). Check out his stuff: http://video.google.com/videosearch?client=safari&rls=en&q=chris+cunningham&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=ovEeSr7iEtvLjAfb4aWRDQ&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title#

  • the cuture of advertising just doesn't support it

  • the culture of advertising just doesn't support it

  • May 28, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Re: STAR TREK Reboot

    by ArmageddonProductions

    Unfortunately, the B.O. and all the gushing about that horrid TREK reboot is squarely to blame for this shit. You wanna defend the TREK reboot, fine, just remember how great you thought it was when you start complaining about THE MATRIX remake next year.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Chris Cunningham is not making a feature anytime soon

    by drturing

  • May 28, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    drturing, How do you know?

    by DC Films

    Or is it an educated guess - probably right, mores the pity.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    DC Films

    by ArmageddonProductions

    Cunningham had a very promising start (it doesn't get any more promising than working with Gibson on a NEUROMANCER movie), but I'm under the impression he has a very nasty drug habit, which is likely why he hasn't been tapped for THE BURNING remake.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Actually DC Comics, drturing is right

    by Continentalop

    To a degree at least. One of the reasons studios tap commercial & music video directors nowadays is because they know how to make interesting visuals AND they know how to take orders from clients (in this case, studio bosses).

  • May 28, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    DrTuring has a point about commercial directors

    by D.Vader

    I've worked on numerous commercials and watched first hand how the director always has to defer to the agency and the client, after every decision. Often, I've seen good shoots get stretched out because, even after we've gotten the shot, the agency and clients call the director over and have him do it again this way or that way. It got to the point that during my first year on set, I started to wonder why they even bother to hire a director at all when they keep undercutting all the work he does by having him change it. <p> It makes no sense and was pretty depressing at the time. But yeah, let's take a look at commercial directors. Turing already singled out Bay, but he started in music videos too. Who directed Mystery Men? A commercial director. Bleh. That's the only bad example I can think of right now. Can't think of a good example either though. <p> But he's right, ad directors learn how to kiss ass and make the producers happy. But storytelling? Its mixed.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    cracking on teens twittering and have a link tio your own twitte

    by Geomancer21

    ummm....

  • May 28, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Mixed feelings...

    by HB_Dad

    Alien 1 and 2 were amazing! With that in mind, I fear reboots. However, Alien 3 was shit and 4 was marginally better than 3 but they both still sucked. Both AVP's made the Alien franchise identity get even more shakey. The only way to save it may in fact be to start over as proposed. Perhaps this could be a new movie series that chronicals the untold/unknown series of encounters by a different cast of characters set on the homeworld? Again, this is a totally mixed bag full of possible promise or disappointment depending on how they go forward.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Since

    by TedKordLives

    We've delved into Star Trek territory, I gotta say: I've seen it twice now (paid once) and it's really not that bad. And I'm a guy who thought ST began and ended with Shatner. Since the timeline was altered from the moment of Kirk's birth (basically), I can accept any changes in the timeline. That's plenty of time for any number of things, small or large, to change. And, coming from the morons who wrote TF, the story was surprisingly not retarded. Sure, there was so much unexplained backstory that it filled a comic book mini-series, and JJ loves ESB too much, and there seemed to be a need to have someone in jeopardy every ten seconds, but overall I was impressed. The cast was excellent, with the exception of Winona, who just weirded me out. The cinematography was gorgeous, editing was fine, effects were great. I guess I'm 'drinking the kool-aid' on this one. <P> T4 was fucking stupid tho.

  • May 28, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    As D Vader says

    by drturing

    the environment of shooting commercials leads to someone who gets used to a lot of perks and a lot of money in exchange for a pretty cool job where they have to take orders from a bunch of people who know NOTHING about making a film and who insanely believe in bullshit like "lovemarks" or actually do market research on cults in order to understand how to deceive us better. I saw an actual ad agency brief on an energy drink once it was so fucking funny "the demographic for this ad are young urban professionals aged 26 - 32. They believe themselves to be quite stylish but are rather tasteless and have inordinate disposable income but can only try to get into the elite nightclubs." it was bascially a brutal psychological profile of an inferior subspecies of human and how to prey on their insecurities to make them drink some bullshit. the people who bring THAT to life are the gatekeepers to your beloved franchises. Now compare that to James Cameron building models for Roger Corman having Ahnuld crash cars for real in the middle of the night for Terminator. Which of the two do you think is going to become a visionary?

  • May 28, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST

    drturing

    by Continentalop

    You ever hear the story of how Corman recognized that Cameron had talent?

  • May 28, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    I didn't see a hissy fit

    by D.Vader

    I saw someone who was number 1 in her class stating her viewpoint that she should be on the number 1 ship. She had a point and she made it in a very mature way, not a foot-stomping, hands-in-the-air spoiled teenage sort of way. <p> And fencing may not be combat training, but its better than no combat training at all- and I didn't see anyone else raising their hands when asked.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:15 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives...

    by DanielKurland

    Calm down.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by D.Vader

    " If she was not put on Enterprise, is because she skills is need elsewhere." <p> I didn't see it that way at all. I saw it as Spock assigning her somewhere else so as not to appear like it was favoritism, or so their relationship wouldn't interfere. And Uhura knew it had nothing to do with being needed elsewhere, that's why she approached him about it. That was my interpretation anyway.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Couple of things here:

    by toshiro-solo

    First, if this ends up being the Space Jockey story, it's not a "reboot" - it's a prequel. "Reboot" carries a connotation of a new series of movies with new actors playing characters established in the original films; a Space Jockey movie wouldn't be that. It would also (obviously) not be a remake. Second thing: I have no idea who this director is, but to be fair, Scott had virtually no track record when he was given the first, Cameron hadn't even released Terminator yet when Fox liked his script so much that they greenlit him as director for Aliens, and Fincher had only done videos and commercials when he was brought in for Alien 3. Jenuet had a bit more of a track record, but he was by no means a "name" director to Joe Average in the States, so - who knows, maybe this guy can make a good feature. That said - even though if this IS the Space Jockey's story, and is NOT a reboot or a remake, we DO NOT NEED to see a prequel explaining the Jockey's story. I am absolutely tired of the demystification of every fucking story that's out there. Moriarty wrote a good piece on the effect of the SW prequels on the industry over the past decade, and his fundamental point was that the PT kicked off this prequel madness that we're still in the grip of. Some things are better off left to our imaginations, it's just that simple. If Fox is intent on doing a new Alien movie, I'm all for that, but how about moving the story FORWARD instead of going backward? I had the good fortune to see a new print of Aliens at BAM Cinema here in Brooklyn last night, and - damned if that movie doesn't hold up like crazy. I love the Alien universe. I just don't want everything explained to me.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST

    AssimovLives - You need help.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Serious psychiatric help. These ongoing STAR TREK diatribes are bordering on your previous TRANSFORMERS/Bay dimentia. And we all know how that ended up.<P>You're on a one-note train to nowhere, buddy. Time to get off and move on.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    "...stick to that subject from now on."

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Smartest thing you've said since you returned to AICN.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Let Vincent Ward do it

    by emeraldboy

    and give him complete control of the whole saga.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Speaking of seeing Aliens last night:

    by toshiro-solo

    I thought of something that hadn't occurred to me before. What's the sequence by which the Queen gets involved in things in that movie? In the Director's Cut, Newt's family goes out to the Jockey's ship, her dad gets face-huggered, and - presumably - he goes back to Hadley's Hope where an Alien chest bursts him, just like in the first movie. At that point, you have an Alien in the midst of the people, but - how do you go from there to where things are when the Marines get to the base? If he was "impregnated" by a warrior, did that warrior immobilize a colonist, bring him/her back to the Space Jockey, since that's where the only eggs were at that point? Rinse and repeat until eventually a queen is "born", at which point a new home base gets set up not at the Space Jockey's ship, but in Sub-Level 03? Or do we just have to assume that the face hugger that got Newt's dad implanted him with a queen, and that that queen chest bursted him, and immediately sets up shop in Sub-Level 03? If anyone on this board is going to the back to back Aliens/Abyss screening in L.A. tomorrow, and there's a Q&A with Cameron, you should ask!

  • May 28, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Sigourney Weaver stated

    by emeraldboy

    that she is done with alien

  • May 28, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Rothman is the dumbest cunt...

    by elwood_p_dud

    in LA. CHRIST, that Wolverine movie was a rancid piece of pig shit!! I thank God every day I didn't pay for that shitastically vapid bucket of puss. Now he's doing this??? Someone fire that dumb fuck.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Just do Alien 5...

    by ThereWolf

    but maybe not call it 5, give it a subtitle. I wouldn't mind seeing the 'space jockey' planet, but the Alien homeworld should remain a mystery.<p>Rebootquel not necessary. Fuck's sake, there must be somebody in Hollywoo who can write an Alien 5. How hard can it be?

  • May 28, 2009, 4:31 p.m. CST

    asimovlives

    by drturing

    this webpage about you is kinda freaky: http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Chris-chan

  • May 28, 2009, 4:31 p.m. CST

    What's next? A fucking Blade Runner remake?

    by Mr. Pricklepants

    Don't do it, Ridley. Remember how Fox/Tom Rothman fucked you in the ass when they forced you to cut like 50 minutes from Kingdom of Heaven. It didn't even matter, because it bombed in the U.S. And the director's cut is better anyway. Don't ruin the legacy of Alien any further.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST

    The reboots mostly come at night.

    by Cleric_John_Preston

    mostly....

  • May 28, 2009, 4:36 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Mr. Pricklepants

    You're a fucking idiot. Live long and prosper.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    AssimovLives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Me? I'm the dude playing a dude disguised as the other dude.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Alien Saga

    by TedKordLives

    Alien-Decent horror movie <P> Aliens-Kick-ass Action Sci-Fi <P> Alien 3-Decent horror movie <P> Alien Resurrection-Crazy ass Whedon Freak Show <P> AvP-Bland PG-13 Bullshit <P> AvP:R-Dark Ass Mean Crazy Homage <P> Fox-Fucking Evil Bastards

  • May 28, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Hmmm

    by TedKordLives

    Little too much ass in that last post. Sorry.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Why? Just why???????????????????????

    by crackerfarmboy

    Alien, Aliens,& Predator are great films. None of these three need a remake. I still believe that an Alien vs. Predator film, set in space vs. space marines like the video game, can work; they just need to make sure they stop giving it to shitty hack writer & directors. I am STRONGLY opposed to both the Alien and Predator reboots.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    I wish: on opening night you can buy a ticket

    by kabong

    or buy the Director's Cut DVD.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:47 p.m. CST

    asimov man

    by drturing

    sorry for making fun of you, you just need to chill on the star trek stuff. it's just not worth it, you know.

  • May 28, 2009, 4:52 p.m. CST

    Reboot PHANTASM

    by PinkFloyd7

    The first one was pretty cool for a 70's era horror flick. After that, they sucked. And after that, someone should reboot MY DINNER WITH ANDRE

  • May 28, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Great.

    by namasteandgoodluck

    Maybe South Park can do an episode where the Alien gets raped by Rothman and Ridley Scott. And Pinkfloyd7, fuck yes...reboot Phantasm.

  • May 28, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Fox are beyond fucking reatarded

    by drturing

    they had a chance to do an Alien film with Cameron and Ridley Scott TOGETHER and they passed on that so the director of some Korn videos could have Aliens fight someone in a convenience store. FUCK YOU FOX YOU RUPERT MURDOCH MYSPACE OWNING WHOREMASTERS

  • May 28, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Asimov

    by TedKordLives

    Amazing that we agree on that but not ST. You must be pretty hardcore about it. Which I respect. <P> Fucking A reboot Phantasm! I don't know who you'd get to play the Tall Man, tho. Any thoughts? Alan Rickman on stilts?

  • May 28, 2009, 5:10 p.m. CST

    AvP

    by ThereWolf

    What fucking gets me is Anderson said AvP was a stand alone movie and not connected to the Alien series. So what does he do? Gets Lance 'Bishop' Henriksen to play Weyland. Even throws in a 'homage' to the knife trick, only with a pen this time. Great job of not connecting it. He made it a 'prequel' for fuck's sake. Twat.<p>The only thing good about AvP was the punky-haired French chick. She's tidy.

  • May 28, 2009, 5:10 p.m. CST

    Remake Ice Pirates.

    by Dingbatty

  • May 28, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Fox...

    by ThereWolf

    should hang their heads in shame, forcing two once mighty species to lumber around in two shit films with a bunch of clowns chucked in as fast food.

  • May 28, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST

    rebooting the device will kill it after a while

    by Datascream

    and it definitely shows today.

  • May 28, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Boycott on Fox franchises

    by gigantis2000

    I am boycotting Fox franchise movies (started with Wolverine) until they get their shit together and start making some decent films. And I'm a HUGE Marvel fan, although, granted, not the biggest Wolverine fan, but he's still in at least the top 25.

  • May 28, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Wow

    by TedKordLives

    Not a trekkie and hated Star Trek? That IS odd. As I AM a trekkie and found the new ST to be a ton of fun. Sure, I had my problems with it but overall I'd prolly give it a 7/10. You do need to see Phantasm tho. At least the first one. <P> Big Ass Titties!

  • May 28, 2009, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Gigantis

    by TedKordLives

    Right there with you man. Although, I bought the Unrated Live Free or Die Hard used on a whim and I gotta say, it's about 200% more die hardy. Which means that it is the studio that's fucking up the movies (same with Daredevil). <P> Fuck Fox, don't give them any more money. I won't.

  • May 28, 2009, 5:35 p.m. CST

    It can even take place…

    by rxse7en

    …after Alien3 and before Resurrection. 200+ years to see how Weyland-Yutani sent colonial marines to the Alien homeworld to collect specimens. Clusterfuck ensues, marines die, but they get a couple drones back to earth. Experiments are conducted, Aliens escape, multiply and we see the battle to retake Earth. This can help explain why Resurrection takes place off-planet and the Corporations are gone.

  • The first two movies were not about aliens. They were about people. They were about Ripley, Dallas, Parker, Lambert, Brett, Kane, Newt, Hicks, Hudson, Vasquez, Apone, Bishop, Gorman, and Burke. Alien 3 has Dillon and maybe Clemens. Alien 4 has nobody, nor did the two AvPs. An Alien reboot is gonna be back as an action movie, plain and simple.<p>Cast...expendable.

  • May 28, 2009, 5:39 p.m. CST

    I think it should be all about…

    by rxse7en

    Wierzbowski!

  • May 28, 2009, 5:39 p.m. CST

    The rest of my subject

    by Bramton1

    Why Alien and Aliens succeeded, why Alien 3, Alien 4, AvP, and AvP:R failed, and why a reboot will as well.

  • May 28, 2009, 5:40 p.m. CST

    TedKordIsNotDead

    by gigantis2000

    Yeah, I saw the Daredevil Director's Cut and was surprised to actually like it (still not perfect, but WAYYYYY better than the studio cut). Don't know about Die Hard, though. PG-13 kept me away, but when I thought about it, I realized it didn't any look good in the first place. In fact, I thought it looked kind of stupid (the car flipping toward Bruce, he ducks and it bounces off the cars next to him...it just makes it seem so fake, when part of what was good about the original is that it was relatively realistic...relatively). Haven't seen it, though, so...

  • May 28, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    remake UHF with benny del toro as stan spadowski

    by Six Demon Bag

  • May 28, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    remakes..reboots...

    by mrbouncy

    You could look at it as movie studios falling back on established franchises and reworking them for today's modern audience as a result as the global economic downturn. It's far easier to play it safe and bring out an established brand that people will go see and put bums on seats. What it doesn't excuse though is piss poor writing and shoddy story telling. Chances are if you bring out a film that is actually good, in the long term you'll see a bigger profit. The Alien story doesn't need to be rebooted (or whatever the current buzz word in Hollyweird may be). The Alien universe is big enough and diverse enough to tell a different story which doesn't involve Ripley, but can find it's own place within the mythos. After all isn't the original Alien story just a haunted house story, except instead of a haunted house you have a spaceship, and instead of a ghost you have a fuck off big monster?

  • May 28, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    why bother??

    by Six Demon Bag

    ALIEN had characters well developed enough that you actually gave a shit who lived and who died. and who in 1979 could have guessed it wouldve been the non-star girl? <P>i can pretty much guarantee by the way things are going over with AVP that characters will be one-dimensional and the action flaccid..we've seen it before it cant shock us the way it did back then...sigh

  • May 28, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Bramton1

    by rxse7en

    Johner, Christie and Elgyn were decent characters. I liked Elgyn and was a little shocked when he bough it. Not saying it was a great Alien movie, just that it did attempt to build characters--just not the ones I wanted to follow.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    BOYLE'S SUNSHINE close to theme of ALIEN

    by Six Demon Bag

    that's the closest in tone to Alien in a science fiction that ive seen

  • May 28, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Unstifled rage to bullshit about Star Trek

    by Toilet_Terror

    in about 5 hours.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:10 p.m. CST

    I will admit:

    by Toilet_Terror

    if they had Herzog, Scorcese, Spielberg or Woody Allen attached to direct I'd be excited.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Gigantoriss

    by TedKordLives

    Yeah, Die Hard 4 IS a far cry from the origins of the series, but the DC is leaps and bounds above the theatrical cut. <P> Oh, man, this Alien reboot (or whatever) could be the 'Jason X' of Alien movies. And oddly enough, that sound freakin' rad to me.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:12 p.m. CST

    by Toilet_Terror

    [Spielberg because he'd probably have a little Asian kid running around karate kicking the Aliens]

  • May 28, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Why Alien rocked

    by Continentalop

    In the original it was about real people. Despite the fact it was set in space, all of those characters felt like people you know: complaining about money, feeling ripped off, bitching about the company, and annoyed by their fellow co-workers. Hell, Alien had two of the best blue-collar characters ever (HD Stanton and Yaphet Koto), and really was a film about Space Truckers. <p> If they do a remake, those characters will be jettisoned for boring, young attractive yuppies. Just look at Cloverfield - you might like the film, but no way the whinny refuges from Rent in that film are near as interesting as the characters in Alien.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Just... Let it Die

    by Cobbio

    Make something else, for God's sake. Something new. Something no one's ever seen before.<p> Oh, it's from Tom Rothman? Ahh, the man who singlehandedly slaughtered several loved and well-established franchises, eh? The Franchise Killer strikes again. I'm sure he'll be sipping expensive champagne as he does.<p> I wonder if he even remembers why he got into this business in the first place.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    I hear they're going to make a CG pubis mound

    by RipleysPubisMound

    of Sigourney Weaver using an old Stan Winston mold

  • May 28, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Conti

    by TedKordLives

    Right on, as usual. The only reason Alien rates at all in my book is that the characters feel real, fully fleshed out. <P> That's also one of the hooks for Event Horizon as well, tho I'm sure Anderson got the idea from Alien. Which is fine, since the characters are their own...uh, characters, and not retreads of the Space Truckers.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Lindsey Lohan

    by TedKordLives

    As the Alien Queen! Yes!

  • May 28, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST

    YES!! THIS WILL BE DIRECTED BY SOMMERS!!!

    by Sal_Bando

    --it's the next GI JOE offering. WOWSERS!--

  • May 28, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Bramton1

    by caruso_stalker217

    I don't know about that. ALIEN³ is more of a drama than anything, which is what I like most about it. It's got two of the best characters in the series (Clemens and Dillon) and come on you've got Brian Glover, Ric Olié, Danny Webb, one of the Dr. Whos, Pete Postlewaite and Holt fucking McCallany all playing memorable characters and the rest of the cast is filled out by interesting-looking people at least, even if most people seem to have trouble telling them apart.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Seriously tho...

    by TedKordLives

    Michelle Monaghan as Ripley? She's pretty awesome, and needs that breakout role. <P> Also, Monica Bellucci as the tiny woman who lives in my pants, constantly servicing me.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Sorry

    by TedKordLives

    Delirious with hunger. 'Blue Warrior needs food, badly."

  • May 28, 2009, 6:39 p.m. CST

    If Aliens is remade

    by johnnylawless2

    the known universe will disappear into a black hole. This has been confirmed by Stephen Hawking, amongst others.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Yes Johnny

    by TedKordLives

    But will the black hole be created by red matter or the Event Horizon's Gateway Drive

  • May 28, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST

    3 does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Caruso i'm impressed that you can rattle off the cast of ALIEN 3, but im more impressed that you can make the 3 look all iddy biddy little. How u do that Mr Magic Man?

  • May 28, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST

    My secret is sadly not that impressive

    by caruso_stalker217

    I have to google "alien 3" every time and copy the ³ from one of the search results. I'm sure there's a shortcut somewhere on this keyboard contraption, but I wouldn't know anything about that. <p>It would probably be easier to just type ALIEN 3, but I'd like to think I'm too professional for that.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Robert Rodriguez

    by TedKordLives

    was in my bookstore the other day. I mean my workplace. If I had seen him I would've asked him about 'Predators'. <P> And Rose McGowan's twat.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Ted, your dick is iddy biddy little too?!

  • May 28, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Goddamnit, just do an AVP movie in space like the games

    by bullet3

    An alien remake is one of the worst idea's I've ever heard. What's next? Let's remake 2001 a space odysey, but add a big battle to the climax? Just do the avp2 game as a movie and you're set. As for those saying it's a prequel, I don't think they have the balls to do a prequel (What, like Fox would do a movie with no humans in it about the space jockey's?), and even if they did, it's a stupid idea to demystify everything. And if you absolutley must do another alien movie, just do a sequel in the future, without ripley. I can see some cool possibilities there, but for gods-sake not another fucking remake.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST

    The small 3 is what separates the amateur from the professional

    by Continentalop

    Therefore, caruso is a Professional.

  • May 28, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Place your bets now...

    by Lemure_v2

    This will suck. Simple as. Nobody can remake that film competently because it's perfect and cannot be improved upon. And as for a prequel? Meh.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Alien3

    by rxse7en

    I remember being so frickin' excited to see it after seeing Aliens in the theater about 20 times. Drunk, stoned, sober, paid, unpaid '86 was a great summer. Alien3 was a real letdown. Anyone else have an Aliens summer? That's the type of character development, sfx, story, action I'd like to see again in the Alien franchise.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Ouch, Cobra-Kai

    by TedKordLives

    Don't make me pull out the crane kick on you. Or leapfrog over your head.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:04 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Ted, not dissing you bro, but the tiny woman who lives in your pants aint gonna do much servicing to a tree trunk that's bigger than she is. That's why im forced to presume you're more of a 'sapling'.<p> And Caruso, your professionalism has been noted. Keep up the good work soldier.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Ted

    by Continentalop

    Blue Warrior needs rest huh? My warrior is purple. You might want to see a doctor.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Six Demon Bag

    here here on the Alien cast.. that is what made it so special

  • May 28, 2009, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Aliens story

    by TedKordLives

    I was 6, I remember waiting for my Uncle John to get home from work so I could beg him to take me to see Aliens. It didn't occur to me that he'd been lugging six packs for Coca-Cola for eight hours and wouldn't really feel like going out again.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Rose Byrne or Ellen Page as Ripley?

    by Six Demon Bag

    they're aiming for teen audience...give them what they want

  • May 28, 2009, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Shit

    by Continentalop

    You said "Blue Warrior needs food." That is an even more disturbing image.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:10 p.m. CST

    True, Cobra

    by TedKordLives

    Like I said, I was not really on top of my game there. But still, the idea of a tiny Bellucci wiggling around down there has a certain...appeal. <P> By the by, when I say 'Uncle John', I am not implying that my mother was/is a prostitute.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Conti

    by TedKordLives

    Ever play old-school 'Gauntlet'? It's a reference.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Blue collar heroes

    by Continentalop

    Question: are there any blue collar heroes anymore in genre movies. The only one in recent years was War of the World, and to be honest Tom Cruise does not make a very convincing blue-collar hero (my dad was a crane operator, and my dad was nothing like Tom Cruise).

  • May 28, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Was that the D&D like game Ted

    by Continentalop

    Where you could play a elf, wizard or warrior?

  • May 28, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    I understand, cos I used to have a tiny woman living in my pants too. Seemed like a good idea to have her move in but ultimately it was just irritating. More of a tickle than anything else.<p> I ended up selling her to Verne Troyer. Still think about her sometimes, and when you mentioned your tiny woman it brought all the memories flooding back.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    So, Conti

    by TedKordLives

    Your Dad was Hetero, I take it.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Conti, the living legend that is Statham was blue collar in DEATH RACE.<p>

  • May 28, 2009, 7:18 p.m. CST

    I hope so Ted

    by Continentalop

    Because I don't think I could handle him coming out of the closet right now.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Heheh-Zing!

    by TedKordLives

    Yeah, it was a four player arcade game. I guess it was my Destiny to be the avatar of the Blue Beetle cause that 'Blue Warrior' line always stuck in my head. <P> But like I was saying, I think the crew in 'Event Horizon' were pretty blue collar. That WAS a while ago now, I guess. Lemme go smoke and ponder that one.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Cobra

    by Continentalop

    Wasn't Straham's character an ex-race car driver in that film? Blue collar roots, but not genuinely blue collar.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:25 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Damn you're right! That's like being blonde with dark roots. Not quite there...<p> Conti, erm, howsabout the hobbits from LOTR?

  • May 28, 2009, 7:29 p.m. CST

    The hobbits?

    by Continentalop

    Sam yes, but not fuckin' Frodo. Never did a days work, just lived off his rich uncle Bilbo. Fuckin' trust fund halfling. <p> I think Bacon in Stir of Echoes was blue-collar, and so were the guys in Session 9.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Blue Collar

    by TedKordLives

    As today's audiences move more and more into office jobs and less into, say, lumberjacking, I think the studios realize that in order to have audiences connect with the characters, they put them into more white collar jobs. <P> That was a fucked up sentence, but you get me.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:32 p.m. CST

    What did Shia LeWhatever

    by TedKordLives

    do in Eagle Eye? You guys see it? Cuz I didn't.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Ted

    by Continentalop

    I agree, but I also think genre flicks have always been reluctant to have blue collar heroes now that I think of it. I mean, in the 40s and 50s I can't think of any monster movie where a truck driver is the hero - it is always a scientist or gung-ho Air Force Major or chief of police. Never bob at the gas station. Only during the 70s through the 80s did we get blue collar heroes. I guess that trend is disappearing again.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST

    By the Way, best blue collar heroes ever

    by Continentalop

    Fred Ward and Kevin Bacon in Tremors. <p> "We've got a plan!"

  • May 28, 2009, 7:37 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Yeah and at the end of the trilogy Frodo and the other fat cats left the plebs behind and retired to 'the grey havens' - aka the fucking country club.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:38 p.m. CST

    kevinwillis.net .. that's the Space Jockey

    by MurderMostFowl

    Which is who I think Quint was referring to, when he said "Space Cowboy" above.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:42 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    MurderMostFowl you inadvertent genius.<p> I nominate the cast of SPACE COWBOYS as blue collar heroes. While i'm at it i'll also raise you with the cast of ARMAGEDDON and THE ABYSS - now im rolling.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Remake never work, Prequel/Reboot could

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    Great characters can't be assumed, but the hook of the original Alien was we had never seen anything like the chestburster before. So that scene was totally shocking and totally made the movie. Also, the grungy used universe has been done to death. A remake would be pointless, there's already been a million crappy unofficial "remakes" of Alien. However, a prequel that takes us to the homeworld or anything completely different than the storylines of any of the Alien or AVP movies is what a lot of fans have been crying for. For what it's worth, they tried (AVP set in current time, Alien 3 tried to be a horror movie like the original with a new take on the Alien, Alien Resurrection trying to be an action movie like Aliens with a new take), but those all failed.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Sorry Cobra

    by Continentalop

    But the guys from SPACE COWBOYS, they are off the same breed as the guys from the RIGHT STUFF. Plus two or three of them were engineers and scientist (not exactly blue collar). <p> Same with THE ABYSS & ARMAGEDDON. maybe. But its not like they are the Alaskan crab fisherman or Kentucky coal miners.

  • May 28, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Valkyrie is about to die.

    by Six Demon Bag

    guantlet the greatest game

  • May 28, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    conti

    by Six Demon Bag

    both abyss and tremors were like 20 years ago...damn i cant think of anthing recent. there was armageddon and perfect storm but they weren't that good. this upsets me.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Conti--fuck me i got one

    by Six Demon Bag

    He who drives the Porkchop Express....Mr. Jack Burton!

  • May 28, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST

    TedKordLives

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Shia worked in a copy store. Like a Kinko's (or maybe it was). He was a college dropout who could never live up to his twin brother's standards in the eyes of his father. <p> Continentalop- you have shown Cameron's strengths- strong women's roles and blue collar workers feature strongly in his movies.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Continentalop, see Trek—I don't agree with Asimov

    by blakindigo

    I think D. Vader is correct here. Starfleet isn't portrayed as a military institution in the film.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Six Demon, I know

    by Continentalop

    I just remembered THEY LIVE, but that also was in the 80s. And if you think about 2000 on, it gets even harder to name a genre movie with a blue collar hero (WAR OF THE WORLDS is the only one i can name; ARMAGEDDON and PERFECT STORM were both in the 90s). <p> The working man is getting screwed again.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:09 p.m. CST

    EVERYONE

    by TiVo1138

    needs to grab their pitchforks and torches and show up at Fox ASAP. <br><br>We can put the tea-baggers to shame. Tell Fox to stop raping our childhoods.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Conti--tom cruise as everyman?? ha!!!

    by Six Demon Bag

  • May 28, 2009, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Six Demon, yeah but Big Trouble...

    by Continentalop

    ...was made in the 80s. Since 2000 I can only think of WAR OF THE WORLDS and now SESSION 9. Two damn movies with working class heroes - no yuppies, or teenagers, or models, or super-heroes. Just regular Americans. <p> Fuck. Do we need Ken Loach and Mike Leigh to do genre flicks?

  • May 28, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    The Brains, both Cameron & Carpenter

    by Continentalop

    are two genre directors who really put blue collar people in their movies. <p> I would also say that Spielberg used to (JAWS & CLOSE ENCOUNTERS)

  • May 28, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    conti

    by Six Demon Bag

    it seems people dont want that. they want extraordianry supermen. sucks. im gonna find one from 2000+. gimme a minute.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:17 p.m. CST

    blakindigo

    by Continentalop

    I am planning on seeing Trek and T:S next week (see one, sneak into the other).

  • May 28, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Six Demon, I think it is all economics

    by Continentalop

    Who has disposable income nowadays? Teenagers and middle class/upper class white collar people. <p> Why make a movie about an auto-workers when most auto workers are now unemployed?

  • May 28, 2009, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Wizard needs food...badly

    by Keeper Of Chimps

    Just wanted to jump in on that.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:29 p.m. CST

    A rule about remakes:

    by TiVo1138

    Remake BAD movies, or even mediocre ones. NEVER remake a classic, because it will inherently fail to live up to its predecessor. <br><br>If you remake a bad movie, there's at least a chance it will be an improvement.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:29 p.m. CST

    A rule about remakes:

    by TiVo1138

    Remake BAD movies, or even mediocre ones. NEVER remake a classic, because it will inherently fail to live up to its predecessor. <br><br>If you remake a bad movie, there's at least a chance it will be an improvement.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Working class genre heroes

    by blakindigo

    John McClane in "Live Free and Die Hard,Wesely Gibson in "Wanted".

  • May 28, 2009, 8:46 p.m. CST

    must...suppress....nerd...rage....

    by the Revisionist

    jeebus flubbing christmas! i should have known with the threat of a Predator remake/reboot that NOTHING is sacred. this news makes every fiber of my nerdom enraged! i had to take several deep breaths to NOT put my fist through my alien queen poster on my wall. i fucking hate hollywood......

  • May 28, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Granted "Wanted" it's arguable if he's blue collar—

    by blakindigo

    but, he's definitely not white collar. I think I might be stretching the definition of blue collar here.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    blakindigo, I think Wesley from WANTED is a wage slave

    by Continentalop

    not blue collar. And I can't count McClane - he is a cop. Cop's might have blue collar backgrounds, but they have always been included as movie characters and are not blue collar. Same as soldiers.

  • May 28, 2009, 8:55 p.m. CST

    So Help Me...

    by Lesbianna_Winterlude

    If they don't stay true to 40 years of Alien Canon, I'm going to go on the internet and complain!

  • May 28, 2009, 8:55 p.m. CST

    But, aren't 'beat cops' generally considered —

    by blakindigo

    —blue collar? Like cops and firemen? 'Cause then you could add 'Frequency' and 'World Trade Centre' (not genre, but, I'm just sayin').

  • May 28, 2009, 8:57 p.m. CST

    ridley scott is turning in his grave

    by phoenixmagida5th

    wait he is still alive? No shit

  • May 28, 2009, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Maybe, El Wray in "Grindhouse"?

    by blakindigo

    I don't really remember.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Tough call, blakindigo

    by Continentalop

    But I am going to say "no." That would be like including "criminals" who are often from the blue collar world. Plus, as I said before, cops, firemen and soldier's have always been represented in movies, but how many truck drivers, construction workers or factory workers have you seen in a movie before?

  • May 28, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    conti

    by Six Demon Bag

    i can see the pitch now..."we open up on a sunny morning and a man is eating his fried egg sandwich with his black coffee at the diner, you see, he's a truck dr--"<P><P>"thank you for you time. we'll be in touch"

  • May 28, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Throw in some Terminators and Predators

    by ebolamonkey

    and I'm there!

  • May 28, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Tony Scott should direct Alien

    by Six Demon Bag

    Ridley Scott should direct....Days of Thunder?

  • May 28, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST

    It's not about making a movie that succeeds or not.

    by kabong

    It's about making a movie that if it fails the executives who allowed it to be made are not punished for its lack of success by being themselves fired. <P> Greenlight a proven property like "Alien" and if it flops the executives are covered because they "went with a proven property." No movie that flopped will ever get remade. (Now watch some asshole cite an example to the contrary.) <P> Audiences and even corporate profits are not important to the executives. Only keeping their parking spots counts.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Reboot into New Technology

    by zinc_chameleon

    Cameron and Lucas have been saying it for most of the decade: movies are done as a medium, interactive / multiple storyline is the future, and where all the technology is being developed. You will see Aliens again, but this time you'll be IN IT, and you'll piss your pants in fear.

  • May 28, 2009, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Conti - I have one: My big Fat Greek Wedding

    by toadkillerdog

    Working class girl finds true love - and 300 million dollars

  • May 28, 2009, 10:03 p.m. CST

    ALIEN3, The Flawed Masterpiece.....

    by JaPra

    Yes, i firmly believe this. Alien3 is my next favorite to ALIEN, but I do agree that Cameron's ALIENS is an amazing film. ALIEN3 managed to capture what Cameron didn't, isolation, desperation, feeling trapped. Fincher had the balls to direct a film that slapped the summmer blockbuster that Cameron made right in the face. It's not a happy ending, Ripley dies, they all die, so deal with it. My only beef with 3 is the terrible effects work and the inconsistencies between the rod puppet and the man in the suit. I've been debating the idea of a reboot for most of the day and i think if they could include Ripley then i'd be on board. I can't imagine ALIEN without her. The ALIEN saga is as much her story as it is theirs.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    love Alien³!!!!

    by Six Demon Bag

    love the ending! love the score! just goodness. pretty underrated.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST

    I love reboots

    by batzilla

    why the fuck not? I mean, I say reboot all the time! Lets reboot Batman. I'd love to see someone elses take on the Dark Knight. And Superman, Jaws would be cool. I think reboots are fine. Reboot away Hollywood! I LOVE 'EM!

  • May 28, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Sucked harder than an illegal siphoning gas with a garden hose

    by Liberal_Warrior

    Alien 3

  • May 28, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    where's my UP review?

    by Six Demon Bag

  • May 28, 2009, 10:49 p.m. CST

    This ALIEN 3 bullshit is the latest fanboy revisionism

    by reflecto

    Just like people coming out of their adolescence trying to claim "OHH I NEVER LIKED RETURN OF THE JEDI, IT WAS ALWAYS WEAK, FUCK IT!" Now it's "OHH ALIEN 3 IS ACTUALLY GREAT, FINCHER'S AESTHETIC WAS COMING TOGETHER." BULLSHIT, BWANA! Even FINCHER hates Alien 3. Stop pretending it's good to earn geek cred.

  • May 28, 2009, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Sucked harder than a crack head with a broken pipe

    by toadkillerdog

    Alien 3! <p> What up Lib War? Been a long time dude. Keep fighting the good fight against the motards.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    ALIEN is my favorite film...

    by CENOBITE

    therefore. FUCK. YOU. FOX.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:51 p.m. CST

    Only if we see the Alien Homeworld

    by RayjDeLaMaraca

    otherwise I don't care about this movie, not even if they have Megan fox sucking on an alien mini head/tongue for up to 4 minutes.

  • May 28, 2009, 11:54 p.m. CST

    Wasn't LL Cool J a cook in Deep Blue Sea?

    by veebeeyes

    I never actually bothered to watch that movie, but I heard that he was a cook. That's sort of blue collar. And Stephen Seagal was the chef in those Under Siege movies. Not technically monster movies, I know, but Seagal was the hero.

  • May 29, 2009, 12:02 a.m. CST

    I liked Alien 3 when it was first released.

    by veebeeyes

    Of course, that might also have something to do with the fact that I was only 11 years old when it was first released. But still, even if my memories are tainted by nostalgia, I still sort of like it. And you can't blame that on ONLY on nostalgia either. My favourite movie used to be The Neverending Story, but I recently watched it again and it pissed me the fuck off. Perhaps you CAN blame that on me not having good taste in movies, but even that's not sufficient to explain everything, when you consider that I also love some genuinely great movies.

  • May 29, 2009, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Godfather remake

    by Scoob1978

    I just heard from more then one source that there will be a Godfather remake and that Efron will be involved in some way. I'm looking for the links now but if this is true in any way I'm done with movies entirely. I'm not putting it past anyone to do this blasphemy. Its the ultimate insult.

  • May 29, 2009, 12:11 a.m. CST

    reflecto

    by caruso_stalker217

    I've always liked ALIEN³ so, you know, die.

  • May 29, 2009, 12:12 a.m. CST

    Also, Alien Homeworld will likely piss me off.

    by veebeeyes

    Don't get me wrong, I sort of want to see a movie set on the Alien Homeworld. But back in the 90s I also wanted to see an Alien vs Predator movie. Face it, an Alien Homeworld movie will require creating new Aliens. And the new Aliens will almost certainly be about as lame as the newborn from Alien Resurrection or the Predalien from Alien vs Predator 2. It's a good idea as long as the new Aliens don't suck ass, but I guarantee you that they WILL suck ass. I'm actually more interested in Aliens reaching Earth. And I'm talking about a Doomsday scenario in which the entire planet is lost. Of course, that idea probably won't work either. That'd probably make it like The Day After Tomorrow Plus Aliens. And we all know that disaster movies tend to suck. Adding Aliens might make it suck less than a disaster movie about asteroids or global warming, but those kinds of movies never work.

  • May 29, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST

    PREDATOR

    by mattforce7

    is my childhood....they will RAPE my ChiLDZ Ho00Dz

  • May 29, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST

    PREDATOR

    by mattforce7

    is my childhood....they will RAPE my ChiLDZ Ho00Dz

  • May 29, 2009, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Reboot - Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins

    by MC Lovecraft

    or Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone or Galaxina or Looker or Zapped! or Brother from Another Planet or Night of the Comet or Howard the Duck or Maximum Overdrive or They Live or ... wow, I guess there's no end to where a lack of creativity can take you.

  • May 29, 2009, 12:33 a.m. CST

    Alien3 and 4 characters

    by Bramton1

    Yes, Alien 3 had some fine actors in the roles, but I think with the exception of Dillon and Clemens (and Ripley), you didn't really give a fuck if they lived or died. None of them had the "Oh man, I didn't want him to die" that a Hudson or a Parker had. Furthermore, they took two of the characters from Aliens that we did care about, and killed them offscreen during the opening credits!<p>As for Alien Resurrection, yes Johner, Christie and Elgyn were decent characters. Christie was the best. He cares, and we wanted to care about him. Johner was interesting, and I love Ron Perlman, but I don't think that role was well cast. He's very rough around the edges, and made it very hard to care about Johner. Elgyn was close as well, and it was a little surprising to see him die so early, but really just because he was the captain of the Betty. We was too much of a scumbag to make us care enough.<p>As for AvP and AvP:R, hell I was rooting for them to die.

  • May 29, 2009, 12:34 a.m. CST

    "Das Boot" needs a re-boot

    by Underoos Hero

    or how bout Pluto Nash getting a good bootin'?

  • May 29, 2009, 12:59 a.m. CST

    right

    by Davevsthevolcano

    yes

  • May 29, 2009, 1:29 a.m. CST

    regarding AsimovLives:

    by DocPazuzu

    Where to begin? When his endless off-topic rants got him banned as BladeRunnerUnit? Or when the same rants got him banned as Memories-of-Murder? He must be feeling the heat again because now, after hijacking countless threads and turning them into one-man Trek hate-fests, he’s trying to act as if Star Trek is off-topic in an Alien thread (after first hijacking it, of course). <p> AssLives’ basic problem boils down to his poor self-esteem. He is incapable of actually discussing or debating merits or flaws in films. What he does instead is make endless proclamations about what is “good” and what is “bad”, rounded off with sad and vaguely desperate statements which amount to “if you don’t agree with me then you are a worthless human being.” The only time he’ll provide some tidbit to substantiate his inane claims is, as in this talkback, just before he says “and that’s all I have to say about the subject” and will refuse to answer any critique levelled at his “evidence” because he lacks the ability to. <p> AssLives displays in this regard a classic facet of proto-fascism, where not only “deviant art” is detrimental to the societal project, but the people themselves who enjoy that art are also a threat. He has taken it upon himself to monopolize the notion of what is “good” and “bad” in cinema as well as dismiss everyone who disagrees with him as sub-human morons. I remember one instance, when he was known as Memories-of-Murder, when he actually said that it was fully justified to HATE another human being who didn’t share his taste in movies. <p> When it comes to JJ’s Star Trek, AssLives has, as usual, done nothing but issue proclamations about how “bad” the film is. He has not, however, backed up these proclamations with any kind of evidence or even explanations as to why he has taken up this position until just recently. This is not uncommon when it comes to this guy, since he has NEVER been able to do so regarding any statement he has ever made regarding any film. Ever. There is truly nothing more pathetic than someone who issues safe blanket statements at soft target movies and then refuses to back them up while at the same time insulting anyone who might potentially disagree. He thinks it makes him sound clever and knowledgeable, but in fact it simply makes him sound like what he really is: a shrill, hollow, intellectually stunted, know-it-all ass pickle. <p> AssLives is, by all evidence he himself has provided over the years here in talkback, a simply dreadful individual who has garnered nothing from his fellow talkbackers but scorn, hostility, contempt and loathing. Blithely unaware of how offensive he is to most of us he trundles on, endlessly regurgitating the same empty proclamations, basking in the fetid radiance of his own gaseous and poorly constructed posts, marvelling at his own genius and courage. He claims to be insulted by “bad” movies but habitually insults the intelligence of all talkbackers he addresses. <p> I’d call him a troll only he doesn’t post to cause trouble. He’s merely in mutual lust with his very average intellect and has nothing but disdain for everyone else.

  • May 29, 2009, 1:35 a.m. CST

    Just when I thought I was out...

    by MrFacety

    Remakes are great if in the hands of someone who is passionate about the story. James Cameron knows how to respect the world of the story, not just the plot. Alien was about tight spaces, eery quiet, the hum of the ship's life support system, the stress and ordinary joe demeanor of the characters. All of the " world was intact with the soldiers in the sequel and the alien planet. Its the aesthetics and pacing. Not handhelds and shitty jump cuts.

  • May 29, 2009, 1:36 a.m. CST

    why boycott Fox exactly?

    by yiannis

    To anyone that says "boycott Fox", because of this, Wolverine or anything else, I say that's just plain stupid. Hollywood has ALWAYS been full of cash-grabbing, movie-ruining "suits". It wasn't Rothman or Murdoch that took The Magnificent Ambersons away from Orson Welles and recut it to oblivion and it wasn't Coppola who profited financially from the Godfather movies. Got it?<br><br>My decision to watch a film or not is ONLY EVER based on the potential (or actual, if I've read reliable reviews) quality of the film itself. Even my favourite directors/actors are only my favourites because they have produced work of a consistently high quality.<br><br>So to hell with the lot of you. I guarantee I will be first in the queue on opening night to watch Avatar. I'm going to watch it because James Cameron is in that "favourite because of consistent quality" category I talked about and it's actually (shock! gasp!) an ORIGINAL sci-fi film. If anyone out there HONESTLY thinks I'm some sort of traitor because I won't refuse to watch a film because of the particular studio who will be making money from it, then I just say that you are sad, sad, sad, sad people and not worth my time.<br><br>As for this new Alien movie, I say "meh!". Any creative spark in the franchise died the moment the studio started dictating the course of Alien 3, long before Fincher or Whedon even came on board when it was still going to be a Vincent Ward film. From that point on, the franchise has died a slow, painful and embarrassing death anyway, so there's only two ways to go: so utterly, unbelievably bad that the franchise is put out of its misery forever, or surprisingly good. I fully expect the former (in a way I'm hoping for it), but if advance word (reliable word, anyway) suggests the latter I'll be off to the cinema, laughing at the boycotters as I walk past them

  • May 29, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST

    A little Bad education

    by MrFacety

    The only director I will totally follow is James Cameron. He is to directors what John Hughes is to writers. Most writers have 1 great story 2 solids and its all down hill. Shaymalan had 6th sense great, Unbreakable is solid, Signs little less solid. Terantino. Pulp Fiction great, True Romance and Reservoir Dogs really solid (All other films were homage films which are not "real" or reviewable). Only JOHN Hughes has had classic after classic. 16 Candles, Breakfast Club, Fuckin Ferris Bueler, Planes Trains Automobiles, Home Alone, Pretty in Pink etc Point being they know and respect the "world" of their stories. A motherfucker made a film in a library enjoyable. Fuck that.

  • May 29, 2009, 2:09 a.m. CST

    "Only JOHN HUGHES has had classic after classic"

    by Continentalop

    You ever hear of men named Billy Wilder or Preston Sturges?

  • May 29, 2009, 3:04 a.m. CST

    Some advice for the fucktards this reboot is aimed at

    by alucardvsdracula

    1. Go to your favourite stockist/online store. 2. Purchase or download a copy of "Alien" by Ridley Scott. 3. Watch the movie. Because it's already been done, pretty much to perfection. This particular reboot remake is not only pointless and souless but actually upsetting. Tell you what Fox how about coming up with a BRAND FUCKING NEW Alien movie instead. You made 2 (yep, that's right count em) brilliant Alien Movies and 4 retarded ones. I don't know whose idea this is but I sure hope they die real fucking soon.

  • May 29, 2009, 3:06 a.m. CST

    MrFacety

    by yiannis

    Even if Continentalop HADN'T mentioned the two most perfect names for blowing your argument out of the water, I would still have to disagree with your John Hughes love-fest... <br><br>... specifically your use of the word "classic".<br><br>Now, maybe I'm being a little old fashioned here, but I'm getting really, really, really bored with anything remotely popular or even slightly good being labelled "classic". To me, a "classic", in any medium, is something that has stood the test of time and been revered by generation after generation. Beowulf is a "classic" story. The Marriage of Figaro is a "classic" piece of music. Lord of the Rings is a "classic" novel, despite existing solely within living memory, as multiple generations have come to appreciate it just as much as the first readers.<br><br>The Breakfast Club does NOT fit into this category. Ok?<br><br>I don't mean to denigrate Hughes' films (I like many of them myself), but they are, at best, enjoyable entertaiment. They will never be any more than that, because they were never INTENDED to be any more than that. They are also achingly obvious as being "of the 80s" and to me a "timeless" quality is a basic essential if you are going to even THINK of calling something "classic". I would be more inclined to call Unforgiven a classic than anything by Hughes, and that film was made in the 90s.<br><br>I assume that you are of an age to remember them in their initial releases, therefore what you are experiencing sounds more like nostalgia. Well, I have nostalgia for my old Hyundai Pony, as it was the first car I ever owned, but I sure as hell won't be claiming that a Hyundai Pony is a "classic" car...<br><br>Then again, I've seen adverts for new albums by bands I've never heard of where the words "classic album" are followed by "out on Friday", so if something can be a "classic" before it even exists then plainly the word is now utterly meaningless.

  • May 29, 2009, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Here's how to stop all these remakes once and for all

    by alucardvsdracula

    Take our (as yet unraped) memories of Alien and Nuke all the multiplexes from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

  • May 29, 2009, 3:21 a.m. CST

    Let's see the first film

    by David Cloverfield

    from the Aliens point of view. What did he do dicking around the ship for most of the movie?

  • May 29, 2009, 3:37 a.m. CST

    Fuck off Memories of Murder

    by Lost Jarv

    For a start, you paid to see AvP and were endlessly excited. For a second you haven't a fucking clue what you're talking about regarding any film, and for a third reading your garbled portuegese infused rantings is giving me a migraine. <P>It annoys the living shit out of me that I'm on the same side of the argument as you.

  • May 29, 2009, 3:43 a.m. CST

    Alien 5

    by Lost Jarv

    kill ripley set on cyberpunk earth, directed by Neil Marshall. <P>or that dude that did the Come to Daddy Video (great shout). <P>Nothing else is acceptable.

  • May 29, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Re- Classics

    by Lost Jarv

    picking a "classic" is damned hard. <P>Hughes is not a classic director- he made enjoyable enough stuff, but some of it is already aging badly.

  • May 29, 2009, 3:50 a.m. CST

    DocP

    by Lost Jarv

    great summary of Asshatsadlylives. The only difference I can think of is that Star Trek is off topic in an Alien thread because I haven't seen it and don't like Trek anyway. <P>The Alien remake is going to be my pet subject for the next year.

  • May 29, 2009, 4:29 a.m. CST

    So Chris Cunningham...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...has a nasty drug habit? Well then keep him floating in crank or whatever the hell he prefers if that's what it takes to get him behind a camera. I'm sure that if Fox execs excel at anything, it's scoring high quality drugs. <p> "Philbrick! Juice him up! We're shooting today!"

  • May 29, 2009, 4:45 a.m. CST

    "Philbrick, fetch my crack pipe"

    by Lost Jarv

    "I've just greenlit Toxic Avenger 5"<P>Poor old Philbrick

  • May 29, 2009, 4:51 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by DocPazuzu

    I loved Trek. Top fucking film. Don't be put off by the fact that AssholimovLives hated it -- or that jjjiiisssssmmm liked it, for that matter.

  • May 29, 2009, 5:20 a.m. CST

    For the love of gawd:

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    somebody please fire Tom Rothman, that talentless greedy mothafocka.

  • May 29, 2009, 5:23 a.m. CST

    Not a fan of Trek, at all.

    by Lost Jarv

    Loathe Kurzman and Orci, and don't like anything JJ Abrams has done. <P>I'll probably see the DVD at some point.

  • May 29, 2009, 5:26 a.m. CST

    And by "fire" I mean shoot.

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Damn this PG-13-loving prick to hell.

  • May 29, 2009, 5:32 a.m. CST

    Another great thing about Alien cast

    by Continentalop

    As Roger Ebert describes it: <p> "N]one of them were particularly young. Tom Skerritt, the captain, was 46, Hurt was 39 but looked older, Holm was 48, Harry Dean Stanton was 53, Yaphet Kotto was 42, and only Veronica Cartwright at 29 and Weaver at 30 were in the age range of the usual thriller cast. Many recent action pictures have improbably young actors cast as key roles or sidekicks, but by skewing older, Alien achieves a certain texture without even making a point of it: These are not adventurers but workers, hired by a company to return 20 million tons of ore to Earth." <p> As the book "The Beast Within: the Making of Alien" said, these were "Truckers in Space."

  • May 29, 2009, 5:37 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by DocPazuzu

    I don't really like Trek either. Grew up with the original series, loved Wrath of Khan, liked Undiscovered Country and Voyage Home (despite a horrid score), dislike Next Gen, hate DS9, Voyager and Enterprise. <p> Before "true" fans start saying my opinion doesn't count, I might add that a friend I've known since grade school loves EVERYTHING Trek, dislikes Star Wars and was one of the co-founders of West Coast Trekkers, one of the largest Trek fan organizations in Scandinavia. He loved Abrams' Trek even more than I did. The fact is that the film has appealed to both "Trekkos" (thank you, Vern) and non-fans alike. Any flaws it has (which are not inconsiderable) cannot be attributed to it not being a "true" Trek film. <p> Oh, and I'm not a fan of Abrams' earlier work, either.

  • May 29, 2009, 5:47 a.m. CST

    Only way to stop these

    by David Cloverfield

    to stop watching them. Who here saw AVP and AVPR? Yes, you're the reason. YOU personally.

  • May 29, 2009, 6:01 a.m. CST

    Hmm, well I still think It's A DVD

    by Lost Jarv

    I suppose I'm being a bit of a snob about it, but I can't bring myself to pay to see Star Trek in the Cinema

  • May 29, 2009, 6:02 a.m. CST

    REBOOT THE FUCKING THING !AFTER! ALIENS, mm-kay?

    by BurnHollywood

    (You have to write in ALL CAPS because studio executives are such dense cunts)<p> Leave ALIEN and ALIENS alone, they're fucking perfect. It's only everything after that point that was shit...

  • May 29, 2009, 6:16 a.m. CST

    Alien 3 and 2/3 of Alien 4 are good

    by Lost Jarv

    AvP and AvP:R are gash. AsimovLives paid to see AvP:R. <P>So this is all his fault.

  • May 29, 2009, 6:50 a.m. CST

    The people who are prostesting..

    by emeraldboy

    about this new alien movie may have vaild points. the people going to see the new alien film werent around in 1979. so this will be a new alien film for a new generation of cinemagoers. Fox played hardball over the alien directors cut which it was supposed to release in theatres as a general release. It became a limited release when some cinema chains wouldnt poney up the dough. There are some songs which are legendary. new artists record them because they want to bring the song or songs to people who have never heard them before peole

  • May 29, 2009, 6:57 a.m. CST

    useless, facile argument

    by Lost Jarv

    that one. <P>Utter rubbish on every level.

  • May 29, 2009, 7:06 a.m. CST

    why are people so pissed?

    by j2talk

    I think you are over reacting to the term REBOOT. Think SEQUEL instead and calm the fuck down. Why are then not just calling it a sequel? A) they don't have plans to cast Sigourney Weaver-as 1 she'd want $$, 2 today's audience asks Sigourney Who?? 3 her story has been told 4 its time for somebody, anybody else to meet the aliens B) the recent sequels in the frachise were and lets be charitable here, less than ideal C) the term Reboot is current in fashion and garners press

  • May 29, 2009, 7:25 a.m. CST

    BOYCOTT ON PRINCIPLE

    by BigFatBaby

    Rather than invest time and energy creating something new they're attempting to go for the low hanging fruit by selling on brand alone. I guess it must appear to be low hanging fruit when you have absolutely no respect for the fans. This is the ultimate in production cynicism. I will boycott this film on principle.

  • May 29, 2009, 7:47 a.m. CST

    Christ, memories, give it up

    by Lost Jarv

    You pulled this exact same schtick last time when you were accused of being the artist formerly known as Bladerunnerunit. <P>The reason we think AsimovLives is your newest incarnation is that you share the same stylistic tics, arrogant themes and mangled syntax as the previous incarnations. <P>Man up or fuck off.

  • May 29, 2009, 7:57 a.m. CST

    AssLives

    by DocPazuzu

    That is exactly what I'm talking about when it comes to you insulting our intelligence. You think we're too dumb to be able to recognize your tells when you show up. Let me put it in terms even you can understand: <p> Being somewhat familiar with the world of film I'm sure you know the meaning of auteur theory -- how a director leaves a set of indelible marks on a film which cannot be mistaken for anyone else's, right? Like how The Thing From Another World has Howard Hawk's fingerprints all over it, despite being credited to Christian Nyby, or Poltergeist being Spielberg's despite the official director being Tobe Hooper. Likewise, Michael Bay's particular brand of shit cannot be confused with anyone else's. This is how it is with you, AssLives. You, like Bay, are an auteur of shit -- he in the world of cinema, and you in the wasteland of AICN. <p> Pretend you're a lawyer presented with these qualities: <p> 1) Is from Portugal. <p> 2) Has a hardon for Blade Runner and Christopher Nolan. <p> 3) Extols the virtues of South Korean cinema. <p> 4) Unreservedly defends Tarantino and Rob Zombie. <p> 5) Displays a rabid hatred of JJ and Bay which surfaces in countless posts many of which in talkbacks which have NOTHING to do with the two gentlemen in question. Also enjoys turning their names and film titles into "funny" joke names. <p> 6) Occasionally writes awkward and slightly creepy posts regarding females in the world of movies, posts which reek of either a poorly concealed asexuality or a profound unfamiliarity with the opposite gender. <p> 7) Has a penchant for enthusiastically writing figurative idiomatic checks in English, the necessary funds of which are severely lacking in his linguistic account. <p> Now calculate your odds of convincing a jury that there can be three separate individuals who all share those (and many other) idiosyncrasies. Once you're done shaving your balls with Occam's Razor, please tell us how you have the nerve to think we're so fucking stupid that we can't recognize you when we see you.

  • May 29, 2009, 8 a.m. CST

    "a profound unfamiliarity with the opposite gender"

    by Lost Jarv

    and being trauatised by peeking from between laced fingers at porn doesn't count.

  • May 29, 2009, 8 a.m. CST

    "a profound unfamiliarity with the opposite gender"

    by Lost Jarv

    and being traumatised by peeking from between laced fingers at porn doesn't count.

  • May 29, 2009, 8:03 a.m. CST

    shit. Sorry

    by Lost Jarv

    I accidentally remade my own post.

  • May 29, 2009, 8:05 a.m. CST

    Re : barnaby jones

    by Real Deal

    " Star Trek is the reason they're doing this " Uh no.

  • May 29, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Scooby does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Cool, this talkback has gone all SCOOBY DOO.<p> Doc, Lost Jarv and Gaius are Fred, Velma and Daphne. AsimovLives is the crooked fairground owner who's mask is whipped off to reveal... MEMORIES-OF-MURDER. Dun Dun DUUUUUUR.<p> "An' I woulda got it away with it if it weren't for you meddlin kids..."<p> ps. I'm Scooby and BringingSexyBack is Scrappy.

  • May 29, 2009, 8:47 a.m. CST

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    by harrys_site_sucks

    BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Fuck this shit

  • May 29, 2009, 8:55 a.m. CST

    "Mr Nice Gaius (spelling?)"

    by Droid

    Probably the most amusing thing I've seen all day. Mate, you made about 15 other disgraceful spelling mistakes in your translation from portuguese to mangled english so why on earth would you concern yourself with this particular one?

  • May 29, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    he always does that droid

    by Lost Jarv

    it's when he's trying to pretend that he's above wallowing in TB filth like the rest of us.

  • May 29, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Other things I found amusing in AssHives post

    by Droid

    "i felt a profound sense of irritation and vexation. I felt vexed! Really! My blood boiled" <P>"It's the gentlemanly thing to do." <P>"ungentlemanly lowdown crass name-calling for such pettiness is just not good and doesn't became any of us." <P>"i apologise for calling you a xenophobic retard. It was too harsh and needless."

  • May 29, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    I am especially amused by the fact that...

    by Droid

    he obviously thinks someone gives a shit.

  • May 29, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Jason Rance gobbles boner

    by Lamontsanford

    Smokes it like a stogie

  • May 29, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    He won't reply to me now

    by Lost Jarv

    Because I've slapped him around so badly in the past. But my personal favourite from that moron's manifesto is:<P>"adn i was preparing myself to reply in kind to my feelings" <P>What the fuck does that even mean?

  • May 29, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    tom rothman is laughing his ass off.

    by Conans Sword

    I would say we should just kill the fucker and set an example to anyone else who might try to remake a classic but i dont care that much. I used to but ive just become numb to all these remakes, ive said it before YOU DONT HAVE TO WATCH THEM... i still HAVE NOT seen crystal skull and i have not seen T Salvation or starship troopers 3 or any horror remakes, i wont watch this, thats it....you just see something else and dont give a shit

  • May 29, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Conans

    by Lost Jarv

    Starship Troopers 3 is actually quite good.

  • May 29, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Can someone tell me why certain TBers who were banned...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...always refuse to admit who they are/were when they come back?<P>Is it the ownage that they fear? Or is there some sort of Shame Closet that they're afraid to step out of?<P>Jarv is right - MAN THE FUCK UP!

  • May 29, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Well done, sir. Well done indeed.

  • May 29, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Well if that upsets you...

    by Dropshadow

    Wait till you see the reboot I'm working on. Personally I'm glad to see that they're doing SOMETHING with "Alien," seeing how the franchise couldn't get any worse.

  • May 29, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    re AssLives

    by DocPazuzu

    Somewhere in Grândola a smelly fist smashes a keyboard in fury. <p> "But how? HOW can they know it's me? I, who am a master of the English language and a talented writer? What devilry allows them to see through my charade?" <p> A smile slowly spreads across a sebaceous face. <p> "Ah, but of course! They are merely GUESSING! Yes, that's it -- a lucky guess! In truth, they are all far too stupid to reveal my ruse. Peasants!"

  • May 29, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by Conans Sword

    no way am i falling for that. anyway i love the first one to much to risk having it..tainted somehow by watching (what i assume to be) an inferior sequel.

  • May 29, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Droid

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Nice pick-up on the "Mr Nice Gaius (spelling?)" bit. I mean, it's not like AsimovLives doesn't already put my handle in all the subject lines of his replies to me.<P>Hello! Cut and paste!

  • May 29, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST

    damn

    by Chagui

    Well Alien was the only movie that gave me fucking nightmares for three nights at the tender age of 12 after watching in it on Peruvian network tv with commercials and bad Spanish dub (I saw The Omen and the Exorcists at that age, but I didn't mind them). In fact, that fucking movie traumatized me until today, everytime I watch an old trailer, or reference, or catch it again on cable, my early childhood traumas return and I can't seem to fall aslepp again thinking that the fucking Alien is behind me or something. The fact that they are trying to reboot it or remake it is a fucking shame, way to rape my fucking child traumas Fox!!!

  • May 29, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Cheers, MNG

    by DocPazuzu

    Can you believe the nerve of this guy?

  • May 29, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    TBers

    by one_guy_from_andromeda

    Christ, pazuzu et al, get a life. None of you guys is getting away from this with his dignity in tact. Stop embarassing yourselves.<p> On topic, well, what is there else to say than fuck this shit? Next they'll be remaking Blade Runner as the fun action movie everyone wants it to be. People will tell you how it's much more fast paced than the boring original and that the "themes" are still there, and hey, it's an action movie you want a philosophical treatise go to college you fag and so on. Mark my words, this will happen. Right after the Back to the Future Remake with Shia Leboef as McFly.

  • May 29, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    He is pretty hard to believe. Definitely one stubborn sonofabitch.

  • May 29, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    by tonguestubble

    Fans have no ownership and therefore no rights, so though my heart is heavy at this news, I accept that every great movie that doesn't need remaking/rebooting/origining will be coming out again over the next 3 years. Instead of watching the new versions I'll download and watch the originals and never give another penny to Hollywood. And the next person that suggests Neil Marshall has any talent at all, (never mind being let lose on an Alien movie) should kill themselves from shame...

  • May 29, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    one_guy_from_andromeda

    by DocPazuzu

    Welcome to AICN. I hope you enjoy your stay.

  • May 29, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Reboot UP

    by Falafalguy

  • May 29, 2009, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Reboot Avatar

    by Falafalguy

    That movie is so fucking dated.

  • May 29, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Reboot Night At The Museum

    by Falafalguy

    Starring Michael Cera.

  • May 29, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    i cared more about a bird in UP than anyone in T4

    by Six Demon Bag

    what does that say?

  • May 29, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Doc Pazuzu

    by one_guy_from_andromeda

    I can do without your presumptuous welcome, thank you.

  • May 29, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Iron Man trailer to be remade as feature film

    by Royston Lodge

    http://tinyurl.com/6on3hn

  • May 29, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    AssLives

    by DocPazuzu

    Before you serve me up a plate of your hilarious indignation perhaps you should look up the word "sebaceous". You've always been like that -- thinking you know English better than most native speakers. Your ignorance is surpassed only by your arrogance. Same old story with you.

  • May 29, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    one_guy_from_andromeda

    by DocPazuzu

    I'll bet you use the words "darn" and "fiddlesticks" regularly.

  • May 29, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    the teaster trailer

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    for the new alien "re-imagining' is already being remade.

  • May 29, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    It's worth having BRU/MOM/AssLives back...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...just to have a front row arena seat to see the blood fly when DocPaz eviscerates him... again and again. Cheers, dude. Shit, not even Prometheus got his guts ripped out with such regularity. <p> And AsimovLives, if you're NOT BRU/M-O-M, then I'm officially scared of whatever's in the water there in Portugal.

  • May 29, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST

    AssLives

    by Droid

    I found them amusing because you're obviously a self-important fucking twat. Or mentally deranged. Either way, keep posting. I like to be amused.

  • May 29, 2009, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Megan Fox as Ripley

    by geodesigns

  • May 29, 2009, 6:03 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I will accept your apology on the grounds that I'm not entirely sure how you conjured up the xenophobic remark in the first place. The only thing I can figure is that you were so shocked that I pegged you as M-O-M, you went into full fight-or-flight mode because you admitted your were from Portugal (which is something we already knew beforehand). Sound about right?<P>I don't understand why you would play coy and deny that your BRU/M-O-M. (There is no shame in this unless you harbor some embarrassment about getting banned due to your monotonous Bay rants.) Doing so means you woefully underestimate the observational capabilities of the people who read these boards. Let me put it this way...<P>...you ever play poker, Asimov? Well, certain poker players have what are known as "tells". These "tells" are very distinctive and unique to each player and can be seen as a clue to the player's style and intentions. The same idea can be applied to most of AICN's most notorious and infamous Talkbackers and Trolls. And you, sir, have an abundance of "tells" that are beyond obvious. Trust me, it wasn't that hard to figure out.

  • May 29, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Blue Warrior Needs Food-Badly

    by TedKordLives

    Blue Warrior is About to Die. <P> Just thought I'd throw that back out there.

  • May 29, 2009, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Also:

    by TedKordLives

    'Lighten up, Francis.'

  • May 29, 2009, 7 p.m. CST

    Reboot Remo Williams?

    by TedKordLives

    Fuck that, get Fred Ward back in shape and make the sequel I've been waiting on for nearly 25 fucking years! <P> No no, do it.

  • May 29, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Remakes I could live with:

    by Royston Lodge

    - Capricorn One<p> - The Ice Pirates<p> - Buckaroo Banzai<p> - The Fly (which of course was itself a remake)<p> - Reefer Madness<p>

  • May 29, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST

    The only thing I didn't like about Alien 3 was . . .

    by Royston Lodge

    . . . the sex scene. It was so ridiculously out of place. Other than that one scene, I thought it was a pretty kick-ass movie.

  • May 29, 2009, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Alien 3

    by TedKordLives

    Pros: Um, well, Ripley was bald, of course, so she couldn't get lice. The alien popped out of a dog so it looked slightly different from aliens we had seen before. That teriffic ending. There were decent actors. <P> Cons: Decent actors playing assholes no one cared about. Killing Newt & Hudson=Slap in the face. Kinda slow pace. <P> 'Slap in the face' is the new 'raped my childhood'. Roll with it.

  • May 29, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Royston Lodge

    by Six Demon Bag

    fuck off with the buck banzai remake! people didnt get it the first time around. they sure wont get it now. that movie is mine!!!! all mine!!! back the fuck up! (now picture daffy duck with his arms wrapped around a genie lamp!) ha

  • May 29, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    SixDemon & LV

    by TedKordLives

    My Mp3 has a mike, and I used it to record the end credits music from Buckaroo Bonzai. So when I'm walking, I can play it and feel like a badass. <P> LV, Dutton is solid, as usual, but the rest of them are either evil or boring. Even Charles Dance, who I know is a good actor. <P> I have a soft spot for Resurrection, it's just such a batshit gonzo freak show. I love it, and the proto-Firefly crew of the Betty. Brad Dourif's reaction to the newborn is priceless as well.

  • May 29, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    SDB....I saw that movie once on tv in SA

    by southafricanguy

    (buckaroo Banzai), have to be honest dude, could nt get into it, it seemd to have dated badly, and for me it had a lot of cool ideas, but no good script to weave them all together imho..

  • May 29, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    But its one of those batshit crazy films that

    by southafricanguy

    has such a oddballness to it that I can see how it became a cult thing. Plus have to enjoy all the great character actors (paul Weller, Golblum, Lithgow etc...)

  • May 29, 2009, 8:28 p.m. CST

    "Buckaroo,

    by TedKordLives

    the President's on line one about is everything ok with the alien spacecraft from planet ten or should he go ahead and destroy Russia?" <P> "Tell him yes on one and no on two." <P> Fucking Awesome. <P> Also, "Why is that watermelon there?"

  • May 29, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    TEDKORD....yeah it really just existed in its

    by southafricanguy

    own little bizzare, kooky universe did nt it?

  • May 29, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    about Buck Banzai

    by Six Demon Bag

    had i not seen that as a child i probably would be turned off. its a weird one. there aren't many guys who'll step up to bat on that one, but when you do find one, you got a friend for life. <P>LIFE AQUATIC end credits homage to BB end credits--but im sure you guys knew that. J Goldblum in both.

  • May 29, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Yeah Guy

    by TedKordLives

    And I DO have a hard time getting my head around it. But I know I should like it in principle, so I do. <P> And before the end of this summer I intend to create my own homage to BB end credits, but with Blue Beetle and his buddies. Look for it on YouTube this September!

  • May 29, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    BB--such a great cast...

    by Six Demon Bag

    i was fucking ecstatic when i heard this was coming out on dvd..a special edition as well!

  • May 29, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by TedKordLives

    Do you know if there's a soundtrack album, tape or cd out there? I need to rip the music from the end credits and I don't want to rip it from the dvd.

  • May 29, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST

    tedkordi

    by Six Demon Bag

    i got it from limewire. its a little unethical but where else are you gonna get it?

  • May 29, 2009, 9:20 p.m. CST

    tedkordi

    by Six Demon Bag

    would i be able to email it to you? is that possible?

  • May 29, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST

    bb end credits

    by Six Demon Bag

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WzB1Rtr7Q0

  • May 29, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    tedkordi--omit the space

    by Six Demon Bag

  • May 29, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    ok tekord...will do

    by southafricanguy

  • May 29, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    SDB....hows it going dude? We seem to keep

    by southafricanguy

    missing each other...

  • May 29, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST

    SDB...god you should see the retard i have to

    by southafricanguy

    deal with in the avatar talkback...

  • May 29, 2009, 10:59 p.m. CST

    southafricanguy

    by Six Demon Bag

    yeah i saw that shit. we keep missing each other. whats up?

  • May 29, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST

    I JUST SAW LASERPANTS SUCKING CAMERON'S COCK!!!

    by Six Demon Bag

    during the abyss of all films!!! how's that for irony?

  • May 30, 2009, 3:53 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Uh, there is no mistake, dude.

  • May 30, 2009, 4:04 a.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Oh really? Do you really think we're that gullible and easily thrown?! Really??? NO! Really?<P>"Hem?" (That's a big hint/tell right there...)

  • May 30, 2009, 8:52 a.m. CST

    AssimovLives

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Then you have no idea how fun it is to watch you squirm, play coy, and lie.<P>Sad...but hysterical.

  • May 30, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    BRU/MOM/ASS

    by DocPazuzu

    Have you looked up sebaceous yet? If so, please explain to the class how using it is "xenophobic." While you're at it, why don't you google my nick along with "aintitcool" and "sebaceous" in order to see which other people I've used the adjective on, and then you can use that as evidence of how "xenophobic" I am. <p> MNG is right, your denials are sad and funny. "Hem" was also used by BRU and MOM regularly. Seriously, give it up.

  • June 1, 2009, 7:11 a.m. CST

    Fucking maggot

    by Lost Jarv

    give it up asshead. Do you fancy trying to explain the cinematic "quality" (based wholly on your own nebulous criteria) of lifeforce to me again?

  • June 1, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by orcus

    Greets dude, long time no see!

  • June 2, 2009, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Hey Orcus

    by Lost Jarv

    still surfing the timelines? How's the orcling?

  • June 3, 2009, 7:53 a.m. CST

    The Orcling is fine

    by orcus

    We all wen to see Night at the Museum last week and had a blast. Ol' Orcus is trying to sneak in a love of movies on her. The Odd thing is, when she was a wee little thing, Orcus went through a reboot and pretty much rediscovered why he loves movies through her eyes. So basically instead of moving forward, orcus moved a few steps back. Aside from that, things are cool. Orcus is enjoying the new job and of course maintaining the timelines. Although Facebook is rather addictive and it pulls Orcus away fro his duties sometimes...:)

  • Sept. 1, 2009, 12:34 a.m. CST

    Alien vs. Predator: The Musical

    by cactusshadowkid

    They just can't leave a good thing alone. There is only one solution to this franchise reboot nightmare. <a href="http://cactusshadowkid.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/alien-vs-predator-the-musical/">Alien vs. Predator: The Musical</a>.

  • Sept. 1, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    It's Official

    by orcus

    There are no original ideas left