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TOY STORY II tidbits

Published at:  Aug 05, 1999 9:11:40 AM CDT

Well here is the latest in the TOY STORY 2 rumor mill. I can confirm the bits of spoiler stuff that Speakeasy has given us here, as those bits are in the script I read. Personally, I feel that TOY STORY 2 has a better story than even the original and may very well end up being one of those oh so rare cases of a film that surpasses the original in terms of coolness and quality. If successful it'll join: Bride of Frankenstein, Tarzan and his Mate, Godfather II, The Road Warrior and Empire Strikes Back as.... well being cool as hell. Let's hope!



Long, long time ago... I wrote you something but never
said anything. Because of girl troubles, moving far
away, etc. I was never ever to send you any info on
Toy Story 2. But now, here is some new news...

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From the land of the mouse...
Toy Story2 to sounds to be shaping up well... John
Lasseter is now heading the movie more than ever.
After a whirlwind tour with Bug's Life, he has the
time to put his hands in the mix more than ever... I
know you read the original script, but I do not know
if these things were included in it...

SPOILERS AHEAD!

1) Woody sold at garage sale. Becomes valuable
collector's item because he still has his hat (very
rare for his toy).

2) Large problem for Woody in the movie... to live for
ever in a glass case or possibly fall apart and die...
he is just a toy after all (a play off the first one
with Woody and Buzz in flip-flop roles).

Hope this is new info for you... rumor is with
Lasseter back in, the movie has become ten times
better...

if i hear anything else exciting, I let you know...

speakeasy (shhh...)



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  • Aug 05, 1999 9:25:53 AM CDT

    wow... im first... who cares

    by jedi bill

    er, maybe im not first... um, sounds very cool ... i like the aspect of woody's and buzz's roles being reversed from the last movie. but im afraid it will be hard to beat the first one as ar as quality goes. im predicting it to be good, but i dont think it will surpass the original. anybody agree? -jedi b out

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  • Aug 05, 1999 9:27:35 AM CDT

    But I don't wanna be first...

    by fred4sure

    You can't make me. So there....

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  • Aug 05, 1999 9:51:23 AM CDT

    The Ballad of Jedi Bill

    by cackle177

    ...y'know a while back, when Walt Simonson was writing and drawing The Mighty Thor, he created a character that was an alien version of Thor named Beta Ray Bill. And this has nothing to do with nothing, --and it's probably just the early morning delirium getting to me, but I'm pictuing Jedi Bill as some alien dude dressed like a young Obi-Wan (sportin' the long braid, too), sitting at his computer typin' away at how he thinks Toy Story 2 won't surpass the original... Anyway, TS2 is gonna be cool, I especially can't wait to see all the different toy versions of Buzz that are supposed to make an appearance...

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  • Aug 05, 1999 10:29:38 AM CDT

    THE HARRY HYPE MILL IS RUNNING AGAIN.

    by uncle junior

    Well, Iron Giant and The Blair Witch project are now forgotten. It seems that Harry has a new Holy Grail to hype to the moon. Toy Story 2 is now the second coming itself. Give it a rest. By the way, Blair Witch was adequate (that's about it) and Iron Giant was a piece of revisionist historical crap, i.e. The Soviet Union was not really out to get us, it was all our own paranoia! The cold war was stupid! We should have joined hands with the Russians and had some vodka. Never mind that they wanted to rule the world and almost nuked us all over Cuba. I hate that crap and I hate peacenik SHIT like Iron Giant, Saving Private Ryan, etc etc.

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  • Aug 05, 1999 10:50:46 AM CDT

    grunter

    by bean

    Dead on commentary, dude! So many times when you post a talk back I am in awe! You're my hero!!

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  • Aug 05, 1999 10:57:26 AM CDT

    Spleen toy from Mystery Men

    by rolande

    They should have Woody, Buzz, and a lady toy wander off into their owner's backyard, into the woods. There, they would walk all day, and end up at the same spot they were at at the beginning of the day. Then, they could set up a camp, and hear weird noises at night, ultimately leading to the undoing of Buzz. Woody and the lady toy would carry on, with her screaming every so often. Finally they would come to the Barbie Townhouse, somewhat rundown. Madness would ensue, with Woody and the lady toy joining Buzz in the nether world, never to be seen again. The End.

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  • Aug 05, 1999 11:40:42 AM CDT

    what a trenchant commentary that was...

    by golden mole

    Do you really think that kids have forgotten how to play?

    I mean do you really believe that? Some kids love toys, some kids love sports, and some kids give a rat's ass about any of it. Of course the girl told you to keep your clumsy didactic hands off her collectible toy, just as I would have told you not to touch my Rickey Henderson rookie card. And I dare say that her little investment is probably worth more than mine.

    And while I can't personally speak to how many six year olds are populating the 'virtual trading aisles of EBAY', but I doubt that there are many who would take interest in your successful-family-bashing apocalyptic vision of their playtime.

    I was particularly moved by the vision of you rolling around in mud with your toys, of you exploring your desire to destroy things and of you running up and down the stairs while mom tries to get you to go outside and make some friends.

    However, if you really feel the need to make political statements to ensure the happiness of tomorrow's youth, why not give some toys to the poor instead of worrying that those rich enough to afford the baubles aren't playing with them correctly?

    The Golden Mole

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  • Aug 05, 1999 11:56:18 AM CDT

    ...play with your toys!

    by cackle177

    It's just like our buddy "grunter" says...
    --I remember the final fate of my Six Million Dollar Man doll... it was a warm summer afternoon back in 1980 (my Oscar Goldman with decoy exploding briefcase and that one robot bad guy who could change faces were both long gone to the toy cemetary) --and as I had done a million times before I would toss Steve Austin into high into the air while I tried my best to imitate his "bionic jumping noise". But this time, in a one-in-a-million shot, my Six Million Dollar Man doll landed perfectly flat on his back. The impact must have snapped the cord inside and thus practically sent his head and limbs flying out of that red jumpsuit of his. I ran to the toy doctor, my dad, to fix him, but there was nothing he could do...
    And that's the story of how I lost the greatest toy I ever had. But would I think this toy was so great if I never played with him and just left it in a box to collect dust on a shelf? ...who cares? Just play with your toys, dammit.

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  • Ah, Toy Story 2, I remember when I could not go wrong in getting a Toy Story item for my girlfriend. I just hope this project meets or exceeds the original. That's all. A side note, I've meet a person whose parents made him keep all his Star Wars figures in the package. $mart move, but I enjoyed playing with mine.:-)

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  • Aug 05, 1999 1:47:16 PM CDT

    Blown up REAL good....

    by ninja nerd

    Grunter...you're too cool. When I was just a wee Nerd, we would spend hours building Revell model planes like B-17s, squirt plastic cement all over the exterior and "go down in flames". The teenager went through a billion (I know, I paid for them!) Mutant Turtle figures, Star Wars figures and vehicles, cars, planes, model rockets of his own. Toys are for playing with and destroying in neat and fun ways! Several of the smaller Star Wars guys have flown in rockets...Luke, I'm afraid, did not survive. Awwwww........

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  • Aug 05, 1999 3:19:33 PM CDT

    Every time...

    by miss direction

    ...I buy a toy that's even vaguely "collectible" nowadays - such as, say, Phantom Menace figures - I announce "Listen to the collectors scream!" as I shred the cardboard packaging. Yeah, I had an original issue Luke Skywalker - Shelties ate his head! The 12" Leia looked better without the funny hairdo! Without destroying packaging, I would never have known that the 12" Qui Gon has nipples or that Special Senate Amidala has tiny, white, removable, cotton panties. (Many of my male friends consider that alone more valuable than any eBay bid.)

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  • Aug 05, 1999 4:21:45 PM CDT

    About collectors and Toy Story 2

    by bryan

    I haven't read too many spoilers, because I don't like them, but it is my impression that the movie is the opposite of what Grunter is afraid it will be. Lasseter loves toys, clearly, and I don't think he's one of these keep it in the package idiots. Woody gets kidnapped by a collector and becomes stuck on this idea that he is "valuable". It will actually be teaching kids - too many of whom keep their comics and Beanie Babies in plastic protector cases - the value of play. It is making fun of these same attitudes we all hate. Or I think so, anyway.

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  • Aug 05, 1999 4:53:08 PM CDT

    Plastic corrosion awareness meeting!

    by godai-kun

    Bryan is right. If the film has a straight away villian, I'd say the toy collector would be it. I'm sure his behavior will be discouraged. I haven't read the script but I'm sure Andy will choose Andy over being "valuable"... And am I the only one who played with his toys AND took care of them? There's a happy medium between keeping them stored away in their boxes and using them for bebe gun fodder. Maybe it's just me.. Whether it be an evil toy collector or a Sid, it seems the Toy Story films will cover both ends of the spectrum. TS2 will be great, but I won't hold it up to the high standards of the original. I've been hurt before. --Mr. Spell

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  • Aug 05, 1999 5:02:11 PM CDT

    D'oh!

    by godai-kun

    oops. That should have read WOODY will chose Andy. Sorry. If Andy chooses himself, this movie is going to be waaaaay to experimental and psychological for my tastes. ;)

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  • Aug 05, 1999 6:19:15 PM CDT

    It scared you!?

    by stilt-man

    Mattman if the trailer for Toy Story 2 scared you than you are a wimp, and let me guess...you were also "scared" when you saw the Blair Witch Project (cannot say this enough...one of the WORST films I have EVER seen during the 27+ years I have been alive). Folks...Deep Blue Sea was much more scary than BWP, and certainly (I would think) scarier than Toy Story 2 (if the trailer scared you Matt, then you will have to change your depends if you work up the courage to see the whole film when it comes out...you girly man:) ).

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  • Aug 05, 1999 7:44:22 PM CDT

    already been done!

    by half vader

    First of all, the ultimate "anti-collector" cartoon has already been done! There's a cool 'Powerpuff Girls' cartoon about a fat comic-book collecting, internet-surfing nerd (I'm not dissing anyone - that's his description. Besides, it's a bit close to me for my liking) who catalogues everything Powerpuff and eventually becomes so obsessed that he captures the girls themselves and imprisions them in impenetrable mylar pack snugs. The kids of the town defeat him by gleefully ripping open all his "Mint" packages. Too cool.
    I think the worst thing I've seen though is the 8inch Hasbro Star Wars figures - specifically designed NOT to be taken out of the packages. I did buy 'em (the sculpting is great), but I sure as hell took 'em out. It just reeks.

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  • Aug 05, 1999 8:29:09 PM CDT

    5 dolla for suckee, 10 dolla for fuckee

    by quentin2

    Just saw "Full Metal Jacket"... great fucking film. Oh yeah, Toy Story II looks cool...

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  • Aug 05, 1999 10:32:00 PM CDT

    more spoiler info...i think

    by the hidden child

    I think that I read that the villan in this movie will be Big Al of Big Al's Toy Barn. Big Al takes Woody from the garage sale and then Woody joins other characters from his set...a horse, a lady....? The toys set out to rescue from Al. When the toys get to Big Al's, they meet up with none other than Barbie. I heard that she is their tour guide and speaks many languages to our friends. This whole thing happens as Andy is away at camp for the summer. I am already psyched up for this movie....yeah.

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  • Aug 06, 1999 7:14:12 AM CDT

    Reading between the lines...

    by stuedwards

    ...I think that the film may be knocking the 'collectibles' culture, ie., Woody spends the rest of his life in a glass box, or gets 'loved to death!'

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  • Aug 06, 1999 10:54:18 AM CDT

    I can't wait for Tron!

    by what?

  • Aug 06, 1999 2:24:28 PM CDT

    Toy Story 2 teaser

    by el duderino

    Are you talking about the teaser where all the green aliens are chanting "two" and then you see Woody and Buzz arguing about how their movie would actually be good if Buzz wasn't in it? Please say that wasn't it, because there was nothing remotely scary in that teaser.

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  • Aug 07, 1999 12:13:52 AM CDT

    Isn't it . . .

    by king fausto

    . . . gravity that make the world go 'round?

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  • Aug 20, 2006 9:35:17 PM CDT

    Yeah! I thought that too, IbanezZ.

    by wolfpack

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