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If you haven't seen the new TRANSFORMERS trailer yet...
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I saw this on my second viewing of TERMINATOR: SALVATION this weekend... don't judge me... I went for that D-Box experience with a couple of friends that hadn't seen the movie yet. They made me do it! And yes, the movie was even worse on the second viewing.
The D-Box thing was kinda cool, but the shine wore off rather quickly.
Anyway, the TRANSFORMERS trailer premiered onscreen over the weekend and I have a copy here... it's odd, I didn't expect the cameos that pop up. I can't believe they kept all this stuff a secret...
Oh, wait. That's not the new TRANSFORMERS trailer. That's TRANSFORMINATORS, which I wish to God was a real movie... Now, where is the new trailer... hrmm... no, that's not it... Oh, hey. Found it! Here it be:
Not too different, but a few new scenes. The rusted Megatron looming up behind Megan Fox and looking pissed off is pretty neat... More goofy-ass robots that, apparently, can't read... maybe not so much.
Thoughts?
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Congrats douche bag!
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Maybe I can give lessons to Christian Bale. Rule #1: NEVER make a PG-13 TERMINATOR movie!!! >:O
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I wonder if the classic theme will be incorporated in.
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etc..etc..
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The studio ACTUALLY thought we'd give a shit if the "old gang" of humans from the previous movie were in it.
Motherfuckers, I'm only HERE for the robots. You could've gotten away with Danny Trejo, Cheech Marin and Aria Giovanni for a fraction of the price, and three times the entertainment value. -
that 'you got the touch' remix for real?
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Breaking out the 'scriptwriting for morons' software again. Bayhem always worth a cinema ticket though, albeit just the once.
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between transforminators and mega shark vs super octopus, all we need now is twister vs. beverly hills chihuahua. heh heh
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'course this had Shia, but T4 had Bale so it evens out
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There's no fucking way this will be better then T4. T4 was fine but for some fucking reason you morons thought James Cameron was directing it. Enjoy your pissing, dancing, handicapped robots, i'll stick with Stan Winston and the T-600. Fuckers.
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Shit shit shitty mcshitballs. That's all I have to say about this Transformers garbage. Sorry I can't offer more intelligent input, but in this case I just can't. Fuck Michael Bay, fuck Shia and fuck Hollywood.
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it was obviously causing women to hate their boyfriends
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There...I said it.
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transformers was the best movie out that crappy summer of box office turds. robots + total massive destruction = box office gold. megan and shia i understand being in the movie, but as burnhollywood said, more money on robots and less on humans. i wouldn't have given two shits about.
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This is shaping up to be the summer of disappointment. Robots, robots everywhere and not a script to think. I look forward to the Terminator reboot of the reboot of the sequel to the sequel to The Terminator in 3 to 5 years, by which time McG will hopefully be prepping his Police Academy re-imagining the useless no talent fucking hack that he is. Giving McG the Terminator was like giving a child a loaded gun: Irresponsible.
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Fanboy favorite. I can see it now.
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Kinda brings to mind the primary target audience.
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this very winter
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Damn you to hell!
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watching that trailer it all just trickled away.
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The Transformers trailer is up on the Apple Quicktime site, watch it on HD not on the crappy res of Quint's link.
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And then comes back to life, or so it seems. he looks different in the scene near the end with his mouthguard down.
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http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/transformersrevengeofthefallen/
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That would be fantastic.
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both of those real movies. Brilliant.
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that's not the same trailer. Mostly, but not quite.
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http://tinyurl.com/qhyceu
Apparently, ROTF uses 140 terabytes of disc space for CG vs the orginal Transformer's 15 terabytes! This must means they're not kidding about giving robots more screen time.
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Humanizing
It's pretty silly for people complaining about Bee crying, when even Omega Supreme cried! Heck, Transformers sweat, bleed, eat, get suffocated, have boobs (well, the girl ones), get drunk etc since the begiining. If anything, the goofy twins and old-man Transformers are here because the writers LISTENED to complaints about Bay making the robots too mechanical. Heck, a few even have very fleshy girlfriends:
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Robot-fleshling_romance
So, Shia's job is just shouting out the names of the Transformers? Good God, Hasbro and Takara got to him! More evidence:
http://tinyurl.com/quvvvf
http://tinyurl.com/pazyao
Tom Kenny (Spongebob, Animated Starscream, every other cartoon character) is pretty much voicing Skids, the green goofy twin there.
Oh,yeah, Skids? Don't diss him. Two reasons:
1)http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:Charleneskids.jpg
2)http://tinyurl.com/qx32tc
Aren't you jealous of him?
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http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Humanizing
http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Robot-fleshling_romance
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http://tinyurl.com/oztkmj and http://tinyurl.com/phd39y
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Man, that Shia Leboeuf can act.
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That's all there is to say about Bay's shit robot designs and his inability to make anything that features real characters instead of excessive product placement and explosions.
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You are complaining about product placements in a movie made to sell toys? The entire franchise is product placement. And why am I living in a Bizarro world where the places on the internet with the fewest people complaining about Bayformers design are Transformers fansites?
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maybe they should have a spin-off movie about Powerglide (as an A10 Warthog plane) having a romantic relationship with Astoria Carlton-Ritz (played by Drew Barrymore) the tech company heiress. See how many people that piss off: http://tinyurl.com/pxk9c2
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Note to Everyone Involved With This Project: THE ROBOTS ARE THE MAIN CHARACTERS, NOT THE HUMANS. Thanks.
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Every single 8 to 10 year old child on the planet.
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I'm guessing hey never made it because they couldn't think of a clever, believable and gripping event to set the events in play. I mean, the aliens attacked once, they lost - end of! (This is also why none of the Jurassic Park sequels was a potent as the first.) When I see poor Shia having to act 'freaked out' while he scribbles strange symbols, I call BULLSHIT on the screenwriters. What a terrible, terrible INCITING INCIDENT. They should all be ashamed of themselves. This has a Spider-Man 3 stink to it.
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You forget people at tformers.com and seibertron.com and such.
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was actually pretty good, the real Bale voice dubbed in was hilarious (as was the inclusion of Shia's nononono)...as for the real trailer, well, there's really nothing in that one that's worth talkbacking about. Especially since they omitted Fox's ass, probably realized if they showed it too much during the previews audiences really wouldn't have a reason to see the actual movie.
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They would have to explain how the aliens came to use Mac-compatible computers. Regarding the writers, believe it or not, they wrote the new Star Trek. Maybe they learned a thing or two writing that.
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Don't think that will make much of a difference. Really, this could be written by David Mamet and it would still be terrible. I don't think Michael May is a 'respect the writers' vision' kind of guy...
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because blacks dont read books right? Ha! Excellent observation Bay. Too busy break dancing and calling everyone bitches to read those books yo
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aren't blacks, they're hillbillies.
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Or at least some chunk of it? I remember reading an interview during the writer's strike about him pounding away on the keyboard cause he had all these "great" ideas and couldn't wait for the writers. Heh.
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May 26, 2009 6:52:39 AM CDT
Who the fuck even gets dragged back to a movie they hate?
by glory_fades_immaxfischer
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Yeah, he's involved. But based on interviews I've read, Orci is still doing most of it. I heard the early script was finished before the strike.
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no movie. simple.
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for the new by Rennie Harlin starring John Cena.
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Hope there's more "hilarious" schtick with that fat black guy gobbling donuts and shrieking like a howler monkey (because that's what black people do, of course).
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Wheeee, can't wait for what I hope will be the most fun movie this summer.
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That felt a bit disjointed, yelling for Bee one second and then Optimus the next.
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"Now they turn into sweet cards. But worst of all, they're eating all of our sand." Love the shot from American Psycho. And was that scene of Robert Patrick the one from Wayne's World?
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Damn You Michael Bay
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I hope everybody remembers to apologize for the... horribly shot action scenes shaky cam zoomed in 1 second ADHD editing helicopter in the sunset 360 slow mo hero shot army commercial theme music playing on loop through out the whole movie DUN DUNT DUNT DUNT DUNT dunt commercial music video style film making dumb plot lazy writing no story logic BLATANT in your face stop the movie product placement terrible dialogue shitty ad lib overacting lazy continuity errors Bay's stereotype racism cringe inducing vomit comedy ugly indistinguishable robot designs Linkin Park Shita Ledouchebag fucktard screaming NONONONONONONONONONO for 2 hours 2 hours 10 mins of pointless human subplots 10 mins of Transformers Jar Jar Binks Transformers its a dumb action packed blockbuster leave your brain at the door fun roller coaster ride movie about a dumb stupid toy commercial cartoon show rabid fan apologies Awww I'm just kidding I'm sure it will be a great movie! All the critics who hated T4 better hate this movie and not provide a laundry list of apologies at the beginning of their reviews.
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why are Transformers fans (and I mean the fans of the entire Transformers franchise from the 80s till now) the only ones with few problems with the movie? I mean, they complain about the editing and the little robot screen time, but they have considerably less problem with it. Oh, and they also admit the cartoons all have problems too.
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No one who would call him/herself a movie lover would watch that garbage.
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I just want to pay for a ticket to Up or something then watch this shit. Obviously I'll see it, but I just feel like I need to somehow make it up to my brain.
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Get to yell the names of all the other transformers in the movie?
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May 26, 2009 8:01:18 AM CDT
They took out the Fox ass shot. One of his balls popped out.
by stuntcock mike
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Michael Bay needs to take over the Terminator Franchise completely.
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...at another forum. It highlights some of the more positive African-American depiction in Transformers. Bobby Bolivia is a shrewd businessman that managed to sell a car he just seen for a very good price. The hackers succeeded where the Pentagon failed, working in their bedrooms. Epps the soldier bravely screamed 'Bring it!' to a robot monster while the other soldiers cower, later managing to identify a weakness of the Decepticons to sabot rounds. Jazz, the allegedly 'black' robot, is the only one other than Prime brave enough to tackle Megatron head on, becoming a martyr in the process (he got a better eulogy in the comics).
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Lots of latinos and Asians speak that way too.
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http://linkinpark.com/newdivide
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SAM: Hey B, we gotta talk about this MBA thing...
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If you recently watch the original Transformers series, you would know that they are riddled with lame jokes as well. Seriously, the first Transformers was a great diversion that summer and I expect this one to be just as enjoyable, if not more. Get over it and go to the movies to enjoy them, not to analyze every scene.
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but members of the human species will, ALL HAIL BALE
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Show that bitch some respect!
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you got the poweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer YEAH!
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hahahahah
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you must have missed the episode where the Autobots were surfing.
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May 26, 2009 9:07:44 AM CDT
MIKEY BAY: "MEGAN I WANT YOUR LEGS OVER THE BIKE LIKE THIS"
by bringingsexyback
"so the audience can get a peek at your snatch."
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and bringing the phaser to vaporize people on line for Bayformers.
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That Transforminators trailer was infinitely more entertaining and captivating compared to the actual Transformers trailer. This does not bode well for Transformers 2.
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looks like a Papa Roach music video
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Hope this one can deliver as well.
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What is your obsession with Star Trek about? I mean it's good and all but it's not as if it's CHILDREN OF FUCKING MEN!!! or THE DARK FUCKING KNIGHT!!! And why are you hating on Shyamalan? For shame.
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I wish they didn't play the jokes but what can you do. I want to see it, but I'll go in the afternoon so as not pay full price.
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good impression
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Sure the preview and some of the characters are placed to hit every 'key demographic', but it Transformers is worth my hard earned money for the Michael Bay WHIZZ BANG BOOM features. I thought Terminator 4's worst sin was that it was kinda eh, but still quite watchable. I desperately hope Motoko Kusanagi is correct in his approximation of Avatar, however it has been 10 years since Cameron put out a massive epic entity of any sort, and that last one (Titanic) I didn't much care for. I don't know, I won't be comfortable with Avatar until they show a damn teaser, or a preview, or a clip or something dammit. These little images do not raise my confidence factor at all. It feels like wondrous inventions without one hint of story. Not entirely cool, yet.
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New Trek was the most fun I've had at a movie in a long time. Shit, I bonded with my dad over it. Now, armed with a phaser and a tricorder (software on my Palm), I'll be defending the Federation for weeks to come.
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That trailer kicked mighty ass.
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Sorry, but it's true. It actually had a tighter story than that patchwork piece of crap Star Trek. Plus John Conner's hand didn't suddenly blow up to the size of a small turkey. Give me T4 anyday.
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Don't laugh.
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12 rounds. directed by Renny Harlin and produced by Jan de bont.
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anything!
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Because I can tell the differences between the robots in their "non-vehicle" forms. Ahem. Yep.
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It's pretty alright. It's no T2, but I think we ought to lower our expectations a little.
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Because other than Up and Star Trek, all the big budget genre stuff this year is so bad I'm considering giving up my movie geek creditials and doing something worth while with my life.
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this 2009. Or is that this year's Little Miss Sunshine?
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May 26, 2009 10:35:30 AM CDT
I like how the kid that has is very own Transforming robot...
by ironhelix
...just wan't to be "normal" and go to college. Oh yeah, let's not forget that not only is he leaving his Giant Transforming Robot, but he's leaving Megan Fox too. I don't know about you guys, but just fucking Megan Fox on a regular basis would probably be enough to me me forget about college, let alone owning my own Transformer. The whole premise is more unbelievable then the actual Transformers themselves.
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you haters can stay home and watch the cartoon.
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For similar reasons (purple Om).
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could also provide some eyeball fuckage... AVATAR syle!
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Unless there is just one or two small differences I'm not noticing, I saw this weeks ago online.
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...when I went to see T4. In summary? Transformers 2 looks like the world's biggest turd of a movie. Going to stay far away from that baby. I guess it'll be okay for little kids, but it's grade-Z material on a big budget. Pfft. Pass.
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May 26, 2009 10:54:26 AM CDT
DID YOU GUYS SEE WHAT THE WASHINGTON POST CALLED KATE GOSSELIN?
by bringingsexyback
A succubus. ROFLTO!!!!!
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Your constant crying, kicking, and screaming over this movie is beyond redundant. We understand how you feel, you don't like TF's. Ok, we get it, now shut the fuck up and seek some attention somewhere else.
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If I were a woman anchored by 8 kids. I wouldn't be a bitch to the only man alive that's willing to put up with my shit. Notice during their interviews they're always hugging the arm of the couch instead of each other? He hates that bitch. And I see why, she is a Succubus.
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Because it had a "tighter story"??? Maybe you can explain exactly WHAT the story was in T4. SPOILERS Here's what I got: a man sentenced to death was made into a Terminator in the future, then joins up with the Resistance after surviving a NUCLEAR BLAST that killed everyone else near him. Then he asks stupid questions like "what's a Terminator?" and "what happened to the city?" and no one notices. So he finds Connor and a female resistance fighter inexplicably helps him even though he's a Terminator (I guess cause he stopped her from being raped by future hillbillys.) And the Terminator thinks he's a good guy so he helps Connor find his dad Kyle (who Skynet inexplicably knows is Connor's dad) but it turns out...BIG TWIST...that Skynet really programmed all this in the Marcus Terminator so he would lead Connor to them. (Rather than just having subliminal programming to kill John Connor himself, or even killing Kyle). And now that their Master Plan has been enacted...what does Skynet do? In their MAIN COMPOUND with a Terminator factory, with 100s of robots running around...they send ONE...yes ONE T-800 to kill John. Brilliant. And then, at the end, John is hurt so the Terminator offers to give him his heart. Awwwww. (Never mind medical compatibility or even if they can do open heart surgery in their little desert compound.) But THIS is the tight story that's better than Trek??????
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Here's a snarky snippet from WaPo:
"He is withered by the succubus he married, a shell of a man, staring at the camera with dead eyes.
Kate, the unapologetic and sometimes deeply cutting nag, now tours the country, relentlessly promoting books of her feel-good, quasi-spiritual, best-selling parenting advice. She wears that bizarrely unattractive soccer mom hair helmet (asymmetrical in front, spiky in back) that should be anyone's cue to give her wide berth, lest she claw you to death. The Gosselins' neighbors bad-mouth them to the press. Rumors recently went around that Kate is too close to her handsome bodyguard. (Security detail: In just two short years, it's come to that.) From this bunker crouch, she recently poured her heart out to People: She doesn't know what to believe about Jon. She's not as bad a person as people say. The glare of celebrity is all too hot, but she's doing this for the children."
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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Man, the fan-made trailers are better than the real-deal! http://nickleshi.blogspot.com
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They stuck the old trailer in front of my T4...I see the difference now.
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Eating all of our sand." Hahaha, Transforminators FTW! Plus that shot of American Psycho! Whoever did Bales voice for the fake parts did a really great job. BTW, Fuck Michael Bay and Fuck Transformers 2.
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Yes. To answer your question. I won't even argue any of your points because they're all valid. And yet after all of that, yes, it's -still- better and makes more sense than Star Trek. Which should say a lot about Star Trek and just how shitty this summer movie season has been.
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I may as well take a week off and move into the IMAX theater. Multiple viewings of this movie and Avatar are going to carbon score my wallet.
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Why is there no coverage on AICN? Or did I miss from being in the Trek TBs too long?
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I heard he's a satellite or something? Lame! I wanna hear Soundwave talk. That's what it's all about for me.
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May 26, 2009 11:39:17 AM CDT
Then again no one can really complain about these movies
by orionsangels
It's not like the Transformers cartoon was Shakespeare or anything. It was a kids cartoon that was tied into marketing toys. Anyone here saying, oh they made it cheesy or that wouldn't happen in the cartoon, sure it would. Have you seen the 80's Transformers cartoon lately?
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Which isn't saying much, but "Transformers 2" might be the most exciting, and least dissapointing blockbuster in this summer season.
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May 26, 2009 12:22:57 PM CDT
If you haven't seen the new TRANSFORMERS trailer yet...
by fuckmichaelbay
...you probably saved a million brain cells. THIS IS YOUR BRAIN ON BAY!"I leaned it by watching poo. I learned it by watching POO!"
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And let me tell you, USA Today was being nice.
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I liked that headline from last week.
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"Next Season: Kate Plus 8".
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May 26, 2009 12:53:23 PM CDT
If you think that the TRANSFORMERS cartoon was poetry...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
...then you really, really need therapy. The films are much better than that cheap-ass cartoon. If your childhood made you think that TRANSFORMERS was "deep," then your childhood memories deserve to be "raped" by modern storytelling. BTW, TREK will earn $200M by Thursday. I would like to hear the sorry excuses of those big-mouth haters who frequent these boards 24/7 who said it wouldn't even make $125M worldwide. 'Nuff said!
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You could admit that your hateful rants are wrong. That wouldn't help me...because I could care less about useless, old hacks like you who try to flood the TBs with your hate-filled rants directed at anyone who disagrees with your opinions. That would make me think that there is hope for people like you. But, no. You will probably flood this board with 400+ rants like the last two STAR TREK threadsd.
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Has anyone ever told you that you TALKBACK TOO MUCH? I thought so.
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and hope for Bad Boys 3 fades rapidly
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FUCK HIM.
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He'd make Splinter into some senile farting rat, and get Vin Diesel to play Casey Jones.
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What? Out of the 4 major summer movies so far (Star Trek, Angels and Demons, Wolverine, Terminator Salvation), Star Trek was the ONLY ONE that was good.
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May 26, 2009 1:20:16 PM CDT
Asimov - Only in a 'silence of the lambs' capacity
by joker gordon levitt
thats how I see it.
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Why do you spit at anyone who disagrees with your opinion about STAR TREK? I liked the movie...a lot. Yet you treat anyone who liked it as if they are somehow "lesser" people than yourself. Bro, it is JUST A MOVIE. Why spend hours and hours writing HUNDREDS of posts that rant about how "terrible" it is? Of course, you have every right to state your opinion (even hundreds of times...over and over again). But can't you embrace the fact that many, many people liked the film? Too often, your "spit" has been redirected from the film itself to those who liked it.
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www .paullbenton .blogspot .com
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I disagree with your opinion about this film...even though you have repeated your various degrees of hatred for it hundreds of times. Yeah, it is just a movie. One that quite a few people really enjoyed! Since so many people -- including longtime Trek fans -- liked this film, does it make you feel that your opinion is abnormal? You can call us "posseurs that pretend to be movie geeks" all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that many of us truly loved this film. The worse thing about the HUNDREDS of posts that reveal your rampant hatred for this film is the fact that you deviate from merely disliking the film...to hating the film...to mocking those who disagree with your opinion. Just go back and read your posts in the original dedicated TREK movie TB thread.
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Your opinion of "Star Trek" is ridiculous but as someone who has incurred the same wrath you seem to engender because of my opinion of "Lost", I do admire your perseverance
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May 26, 2009 2:04:40 PM CDT
AsimovLives - no such thing as "raping childhood"
by theyreflockingthisway
I was into tons of films and TV shows as a child - Transfromers was one of them. A live action Transformers movie was something I always dreamed about but thought would never happen. However it actually did happen and I enjoyed every moment of it.
You, however, obviously saw a very different movie to me. The thing is, though, if I saw the film the same way you did, I wouldn't cry about it "raping my childhood". I've had my childood, I enjoyed it and Transformers was just a small part of it. I'm grown up now and Transformers just doesn't do it for me any more - I still want the odd nostalgic blast, but I don't want to relive my childood. Transformers 2 will give me that nostalgic blast, a bit of action and, hopefully, be a fun and entertaining way to spend two hours at the cinema. If it doesn't, it just missed the mark, so what?
You see the old TV episodes and the movie still exist. You could always go and watch those and pretend you're 8 again if you must - they're not going anywhere. The release of a Transformers movie you don't like will not destroy those. If it does, then you must have been a very sad child (and a sad person now) if a single little two hour movie can destroy all those years of your life. -
because I'm not a child anymore and my life is shitty, I can only cope by shitting on movies that entertain mass audiences...I'm such a tormented artist...well, critic, I'm not talented enough to be an artist, so I have to shitcan the work of others, because I keep it real! Bring on the indie movies like Moon, and District 9, and the Road, so I can complain that they ended up selling out...cause I keep it real!
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Before Star Trek.
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Will never see this. If they ever make a third, won't see that either. Bay, LaBoof, Orci and Kurtzman...what a shower of BASTARDS!
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If you were to go any Transformer fan site. Seibertron.com, TFW2005.com, Superherohype.com, etc, you'll notice 90% of the sites participants approve of Micheal Bay. So you're generalizing when you falsely assume that "nerds" in general hate Michael Bay. The only people who hate Micheal Bay are a very small minority of self righteous internet bloggers who resort to ad hominem attacks and straw man arguments to propagate their subjective opinions. I remember there was a poll conducted after TF1 was released. And over 70% of those who voted, voted to keep Michael Bay on as Director. I don't think Bay is perfect, but no one alive could make a better Transformers movie then him, besides Michael Mann or James Cameron IMO.
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May 26, 2009 2:19:11 PM CDT
Bay has only ever made one movie in his career...
by fa_tass_dinomolester
It's the same bad action movie, over and over again...and what's more, he doesn't even make it well! When your claim to fame is remaking the same banal crap fifteen times, and you're yet to get it right, (IE, being able to actually SEE the action in an action movie), it may be time to go back to your day job. The trailers for this look like Armageddon meets Pearl Harbor...it's hilarious!
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Every single 8 to 10 year old child on the planet.
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but he has sucked at big budget blockbusters. he just suck at it in my opinion. his unique brand of idiocy works in movies like Bad Boys or THe Rock, not so much in turds like The Island, Pearl Harbor and TF. dude really needs a limited budget to keep from fucking everything up with FX. i liked Trek, but im suprised its broke 200 already. i figured it would have too much Trekkie stigma still attached to it. guess not. good for it.
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They love Transformers.
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wrote the same sucky sentence two sucky times.
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Thank you. i would've done so on the SG thread but I didn't want to add a post for that.
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2 hours of some worthless romance with some chases popped in.
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but you must admit JJ Abrahms showed more respect for the source material than McG did. Hell, even Bay is showing more respect, despite the farting and the peeing.
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that is all.
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...The Island is one of the best things Michael Bay has ever directed. It was big and glossy, but it was intriguing and interesting and had some good suspense going. After the two characters escape the prison it devolves into GENERIC ACTION MOVIE, THE SEQUEL, PART LLLXXVIII-EXTRA GENERIC.
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...a modern audience was inevitable if there was going to be another movie. Yeah, the movie isn't perfect, and for most of its run time it doesn't have a brain in its pretty, glossy little head. But I think Abrams was capable enough to realize that he had a weak screenplay so that he emphasized the character moments, which make the movie work, in my opinion. It may not be every, or most, Trek fan's cup of tea, but you have to admit, there's something about it that's clicking with wide audiences. Maybe it's because, compared to Wolverine, Angels and Demons or T4 (or the upcoming Transformers 2 or GI Joe) its a work of genius.
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1. They finally had a good cast. 2. The plot didn't bore me to tears. 3. The effects were great, and not just reused shots from other movies.
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...that long after the audience walked out of the theater and forgot the plot (pssst, hey, is that whats-his-name-that killed the good guy's mother/father/sister's cousin twice removed??) or the impressive effects shots, the audience would remember the charm of the new Enterprise crew (Pine, Quinto and Urban) their repartee, and should enjoy their company enough to want to come back for another new Star Trek adventure with the same characters.
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but I kept messing up my lines. They yelled action and I ran and started screaming "nonononononoyes...DAMN!" They gave me five readings but I just couldn't grasp the dialogue.
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I agree both films had big problems, but my wife and I enjoyed T4 more. We are big Lost fans and I was surprised that JJ allowed the whole Jim runs into Spock, who just happens to be in a cave, on a planet that Scottie just happens to be stationed on. Star Trek does not deserve the praise being thrown at it, neither does T4 deserve the hate. They were both better than a Michael Bay film, but nowhere near a Cameron film.
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But they don't love Bayformers.
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I laughed out loud at that. That shit is just funny. Great trailer. When I first saw the trailer I was confused wondering why the giant Transformer was eating all the sand.
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who sees this movie will be flashing on Megan Fox until the day he dies. The score: Brunettes 10, Blondes 0.
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You have the obligatory Chip and Dale/Merry and Pippin idiot twins in this. The green one and the red one? Might a hoot, ya never know. It has Giant Robots. I'm there.
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'Have you seen this boy-?'
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May 26, 2009 5:15:48 PM CDT
Hey Muki, that joke was funny the first 10 times I heard it.
by ganymede3010
But even the funny ones get stale after resonating for an extended period of time.
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Whoah, I haven't laughed that hard in a while. It was worth the hours this guy put into editing that video; worth every minute. Both of those Summer turds look like the same damn movie.
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Will there be other dialogue as good as that? "Cowabunga dude, lets shred these metal mouthed meatheads then get gnarly over some pizza!"
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"I got you a webcam so we can chat 24/7." That line is the equivalent of saying in 1945, "I bought you a telephone, so that we can speak whenever we like". It's the worst kind of on the nose, level 1 lazy thinking. I don't know how a guy like Bay can ask his actors to say such banalities.
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The whole point is that YOUR definition of "quality" isn't the standard by which all movies are judged...yet your hundreds of posts seem to indicate that it is. STAR TREK was enjoyed by many, many people. It has made a heck of a lot of money already. I don't mind that you didn't like the movie. I don't even mind your reasons why you didn't like the movie. I just don't like the fact that you call anyone who DID like it a "Kool Aid" drinker. I don't like the fact that you mock and ridicule those of us who liked the film...and thought that it was a good TREK film too. Many of us liked the film...a lot. Our opinions matter just as much as yours do. If you didn't like the film...then don't watch it. You don't have to spit on this film 400+ times in every thread about summer movies. We already heard you...again...and again...and again...
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Nuff said.
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And, in TF3 a robot is going to piss, shit, cum, and vomit on Janice from 'The Sopranos'. That scene will represent 1/3 of the film's budget.
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I loved the cartoon. And really enjoyed the first movie. You guys that think every movie has to be Oscar-worthy are a little deluded.
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So it's either Oscar bait dramas or stupid, brain dead crap? I reject that. Example? Oh, only: Jaws, Aliens, E.T., Raiders of the Lost Ark, POTC, The Fugitive, In the Line of Fire, Jurassic Park, War of the Worlds, Gladiator, Die Hard....need I go on?
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I am going to skip transformers I think.I am positive I am getting tired of megean fox,I'll wait until the next skank of the week comes along thanks.
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I read a while ago that he was going to be in this one and the same guy from the cartoons was going to do the voice. Anyone know if it's true?????
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Seriously, what a brilliant job those guys did. Awesome work. I would definitely pay to see that :)
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http://tinyurl.com/qsowes (Terminator Salvation was a finalist, it appears).
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It made a bazillions dollars when it came out two years ago. Why would they fuck with their dumbshit formula. Doyou think they have matured the Sector 7 storyline? More Transformers in the backyard hijinks? The movie's first ten minutes started strong. Soldier getting offed left and right, then it became the Power Rangers movie. How do you start that dark and adult and then make it all bullshit. Be prepared for the same crap.
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Star Trek kicked Terminator Salvation's ass. Although some of the plotholes in TS could be explained away or retconned in the coming two sequels, Star Trek was tighter. Also, TS was a sequel, Star Trek was a reboot. The time travel issue was not the point of the whole fuckin' story, it was to permit artistic license and freshen up the characters without pissing on continuity. In a way, it was the most Star Trek way they could have done it. It looks like the summer peaked with Star Trek. I enjoyed TS, but is was much weaker than it should have been. Skynet could have figured out Kyle Reese through the police records from the first film and Sarah ramblings in Pescadero. I am not sure if this was light on story because they have got two more planned. Note to the writers: suspending disbelief is okay if it fits into the parameters of the world set up by the writers. Time travel is possible in this continuity thanks to a futuer super computer. But when has getting stabbed through the heart cured by a heart transplant (seems like a kids view of cardiac surgery)? If his heart got damage, he was way dead before that. Second, as one poster pointed out, how the fuck can you confirm that they were a match? There is suspension of disbelief then there is taking your audience as a bunch of morons. And to those that defend it by saying the surgery did not take place in the desert, uhhh, we see some the surgical prep outside in the open desert and he is on the same helicopter recovering hours later. Ugh...They should have just done a variation of MCG's original ending. Making John Connor a cyborg, fighting mano a mano with the T-800's. Anyone else notice that in this post-apocolyptic future, everyone has the best fuckin' teeth ever? Every set, perfect and white as John Holmes' jizz. Great action sequences, did not piss on the franchise, and hopefully setting up future installments. I will take it over no terminator movie any day, but don't shit in my mouth and call it a sundae.
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Dumb ass Transformers with big ears and teeth? Really? Made never want to see this steaming pile of shit.
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May 26, 2009 9:40:54 PM CDT
So, Devastator, Soundwave, Ravage, Sideswipe, Constructicons.
by ganymede3010
Aren't a reason to see the movie? You're basing your decision on 2 Robots out of the reported 40 that will be portrayed in the film? You're a fucking moron. That's equivalent to telling Heather Brooke you don't want a Blow Job from her because her nose is to god damn big. Idiot.
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May 26, 2009 9:49:53 PM CDT
If this had come out in the 80s you know you'd love it
by lockesbrokenleg
This is the same crowd that likes the Ewoks in ROTJ.
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I consider these films the visual equivalent of a kid's room with a floor full of lego pieces, broken toys and unfinished scale model kits. Michael Bay! Clean up your room young man!
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Michael Bay running through the CGI lab, slapping the backs of heads and screaming "bigger! Bigger! We have to make these fucking transformers bigger or else what's the fucking point of a sequel!" Prepare for transformers 3, when the entire planet is transformed and goes into battle against the moon.
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Uhh... just how much is shown? :)
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MY LEG FEELS BETTER!!!
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Of the Terminator Trailer, with Bales Rant inserted.
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Both of them. Anyone know where the music in the "real" trailer is from?
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Megan Fox's naked arse gets me beating off harder than Paul Reubens in a gay porn cinema.
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are useally too hollow and dumb for me, but i would be lieing if I said that Transformers did nt entertain me. Why? Because I saw it for what it was, a big loud, messy, dumb live action saterday morning cartoon on a big scale with lots of spectacle. Good filmaking? Not a damn! Trashy? You bet! But somehow still entertaining. You know..sometime you just feel like junk food, you know its bad, you know its not quality, but sometimes its just what you are in the mood for...
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really great job by someone who too much time on their hands apparently...Its a little weird though, a lot of the negative comments on TF2 are coming from people that liked T:$? I ask you: What's the difference? Aren't we supposed to enjoy these popcorn, summer blockbuster rollercoasters for all the xplosions and shooting up shit? Seems like if you like T:$, TF2 seems identical in a lot of ways...
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evrytime i hear Cullens voice, it gives me chills
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of sugary cereal in front of Saturday morning toons -- if someone took a dump in your bowl beforehand.
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any longer.
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Anyone seen this yet? http://tinyurl.com/qkycbu
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directing, plot, characters, acting, humor, cinematography... you name it and TF sucks at it. Even the effects are just ok (mainly because the characters are too hard to make out). At least some aspects of Terminator were done ok. it sucked too, but its not even in the same league of suckiness as TF.
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its a cheap excuse people throw out to hide the fact that they have no standards and are easily entertained.
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Seriously. It was a good movie. At the very worst, it was a passable movie. But to "hate" it- I just flat out do not understand this irrational sentiment. We FINALLY get to see what Cameron didn't have the balls to show us- a war movie. Oh, it lacked heart, you say? Give me this over an effeminate daddy figure Terminator ANY day.
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balls to show us a future war? Yeah that makes sense considering the future war Cameron showed was way more bleak, depressing and scary than anything that was in T4. One of the things that sucked most about T4 was how watered down and fucking ridiculous the post-nuclear world and war was. Thank god Moon Bloodgood always had such good hair, and Bryce always had lots of make up, becuase I was always worried women may lose thier priorities and worry about more important things. And than god all that complex machinery (helicopters, fighter jets,submarines etc..)and all the parts and other logistical equipment needed to maintain such machinery survived the EMP's from the nuclear blasts. Apparantly radiation is no problem, and there is no nuclear winter. Geez, at least in T1 and T2, humans actually looked like they were living on the brink, and people looked more like holocaust survivers just barely hanging on and surviving off rats while trying to fight a war against the machines. If anything had no balls my friend it was T4...
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thing whereby we as an audiance actually give a shit about the characters) it also lacked a brain. As apparantly did skynet...Ill take my intelligent, well characterized daddy figure terminator with an actual story any day, you are most welcome to that lame excuse for a terminator movie...
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Hadn't seen that yet but if only it were true.
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seems like a nice guy, i kind of feel sorry for him because man is he let down by a bad script from some seriously shitty writers. But I also think he does nt quite have the goods as much as he thinks he may..unfortunatly for him...
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Ok, I haven't seen this stuff since I was a kid, but I remember enough.
1. Make them look/act like they did in the cartoon. It doesn't matter whether every individual part would fit into a car or a plane etc. It's a movie about giant robots. Just have them as fuck off big robots, who are fully rounded characters.
2. Start off with a film based on the Generation 1 characters. Slowly introduce characters like Galvatron, Ultramagnus etc. End up in the future, moon base,space battles, Cybertron etc.
Job done.
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Ha! I keed.
I'm sure one of my friends will rent it on NetFlix.
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May 27, 2009 9:15:54 AM CDT
This movie is going to clean the summer house because...
by mr. nice gaius
...THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!
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but the studio and producers balked at the 150-200 million dollar price range, as I remember anyways...Cotton Mcknight - there are decent bits in ALL movies, but overall T:$ is getting bad, BAD reviews by the vast majority of critics nationally...Hey, I enjoyed a lot of Alien 3, but totally understand why many hate it...I can totally see that too, and won't defend it vehemently like those defending T:$
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They were called, The Matrix trilogy. That's why, to me, Terminator Salvation seemed sort of besides the point. I also don't get the flack about T2 and Schwarzenegger's paternal Terminator. That was the whole point, one of the major themes of the movie: a programmed killing machine finds humanity.
You remember theme from your high school/college English class days? Theme? Resonance? It's what makes people remember movies, long after some preposterous plot machinations have drifted from their memory. People remember great character moments, resonance and themes. Yes, and some well shot, cool action sequences. I enjoyed Terminator Salvation; I thought it was a lightweight, goofy time at the movies, but even I admit the flick has zero re-watch-ability. It's essentially a CGI and stunt reel strung together into a creaky semi-narrative. -
...any differnent than the trailer I've seen 2 billion times within the last month. I aint complaining. I LOVE that trailer. This movie will kick SO MUCH ASS! And, yes, Terminator Salvation did suck. Alot. Hated it. Whoever think TS is better than TF:ROTF is reatrded.
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*retarded.
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Quote: "we neeed an edit button..."Nope. Let what you say stand! Besides, how else would we be able to go back and double-check the statements of AICN's most notorious nutjobs?
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the joke's on you and all the other muppets who will actually pay money to see this.
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Why does Optimus still require lips... why does Bumble Bee still use songs to talk (I thought his "voice" was fixed at the end of the last movie... lame. I am sure Harry wlll love it.
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it is 2009, we have the technology...
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I present to you, Respek Knuckles™.
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Man, my college roommate and I used to say that a lot. Long live Sealab!
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This is what a Bay movie has. Hot chick, check. Guy screaming one name, check. Something blowing through a big building, (meteors, transformers, bombs) check. Same camera angles and plastic feel, check. I'll pass thanks. Saw this movie when it was asteroids and not robots.
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he's been that way since at least a year before the first Bayformers came out. Totally unapologetic. And totally deluded. But give the guy credit for his conviction.
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That moving mouth looks so shitty. Why lose the "faceplate", if indeed that is - I guess- all it was in the Bayformers universe?