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Now it's Quint's turn to give his thoughts on TERMINATOR SALVATION!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Going into TERMINATOR: SALVATION Monday night I was optimistic. I didn’t like a lot of the things I was hearing as they were filming… The idea of a giant Transformers-like terminator made me laugh. In fact, we got a report in from someone working on the film describing this “building tall” walking robot that snatches people up and I thought it was fan-made bullshit.

But I liked the casting, I liked the look of the film as we started seeing pictures and then, eventually, clips at Comic-Con and BNAT. By itself, the Harvester sequence with the aforementioned “building tall” robot is actually quite good and add on to that the iconography of the Hunter/Killer ships I was starting to get jazzed.

And listen. I hate Terminator 3. Hate it. It seemed to take the things James Cameron (smartly) cut out of Terminator 2 and expand upon them. I’m talking about the goofy shit, teaching Arnie to smile, etc. Talk to the hand, the ridiculous-ass glasses… sight gags. They went too far, had a lame villain, but decent action and an ending that promised the movie everybody has been waiting to see since 1984.

McG, I knew, could handle action. Love ‘em or hate ‘em, the action scenes in the CHARLIE’S ANGELS movies are easy to follow and well executed. He doesn’t tend to over-cut his action or get in so close you can’t tell what’s going on.

So, my exact words to Harry pre-screening was that I’m sure I’d like this movie more than I did TERMINATOR 3. And I did. Kind of.

The flick didn’t offend me, but it’s the kind of movie that lets the air out of the room in the first 2 minutes. Remember that feeling of the energy just dropping at the midnight screening of THE PHANTOM MENACE? The room is packed, the movie starts, trailers run, the 20th Century Fox logo and fanfare, opening scroll… and then the movie starts and something happens. It just feels off.

The opening credits of TERMINATOR: SALVATION felt that way to me. It was like a high school band trying to cover Led Zeppelin. You could see what they were trying to do, but the tempo was wrong and it felt like an imitation of the good shit you remember.

A lot of the blame for that rests on Danny Elfman’s shoulders. I don’t know what has happened to him in the last few years, but this is possibly his worst score. If he didn’t want to use Brad Fiedel’s Terminator themes and cues, that’s fine. But if you only source those familiar beats twice in a movie (one is the opening credits and the second time is at the end when the big cameo happens) you have to fill the rest of the movie with more than just noise, which is all Elfman does here.

But it’s not just Elfman setting the wrong tone at the beginning. They try to do a similar title scene to the first movie, following super-close up edges to the words that ultimately form the title. It just feels off.

But that’s the opening titles. Who cares about that? What matters is the film. Our first footage is in a death row cell in 2003 as Sam Worthington’s Marcus Wright is being propositioned by Cancera Bonham Carter (you know she has Cancer because she’s wearing a floppy cancer hat that doesn’t quite conceal her bald head). She wants his body. For science.

He’s a bad man and he lets her (and us) know that, signs the piece of paper with the Cyberdyne letterhead and then dies by lethal injection.

Now we’re in the future as there’s a raid on a SkyNet target, a series of above ground satellite dishes in the desert.

That first scene with Worthington and Carter has zero spark or charisma, but what’s even worse is the raid on the enemy target is just as lifeless. There’s a lack of drama to almost everything in this movie. It’s a film of moments that just happen without any lead-up or real conclusion. Shit just seems to happen, there are no peaks and valleys, no beats to the action or plot that feel thought out.

Connor’s introduction is that way. We see a bunch of choppers land in the desert and then one shot follows his chopper in as it carefully settles on a half-broken terminator. A pair of boots hit the ground and two bullets go into the terminator’s head, pan up and it’s Christian Bale as John Connor. You’ve seen the shot in the trailer and it works in the trailer because we’re not sitting there in the middle of the other action and just lazily watching a helicopter float to its mark.

In short, it’s intended as a moment, but it feels forced and a couple takes away from being what I’m sure they were wanting it to be.

When talking with friends after the screening I kept saying that Terminator: Salvation almost isn’t a movie. It feels like someone completed a real, well-shot movie and then they put the whole thing into a schizophrenic editing computer that haphazardly lifted moments or full scenes, leaving us with a movie that gets the point across, but is constantly jarring.

I can’t say anybody in the movie was horrible. Worthington is the main character (wrong choice) and he’s got enough natural charisma to breeze through the movie. He’s also the only character that apparently has any real arc. Both Kyle Reese and John Connor are in the exact same place at the end of the movie that they are at the beginning, as personalities.

So, mistake number one from the screenwriters. Why is Marcus the main character? They clearly couldn’t decide if they were going to follow Connor or Marcus and as a result Marcus gets a few cursory character building scenes and Connor stands around squinting like he’s trying to see the 3-D image pop out of the Magic Eye poster on the wall and just can’t get it to work.

The talk about Connor being this messiah, leader of the human uprising is all well and good, but if they wanted to go that angle then we honestly shouldn’t have seen him. He should have been the voice on the radio that inspires others. If they did it that way, then Kyle Reese could have been the main character.

Which would have been great because out of everybody in the movie Anton Yelchin knocks it out of the park. I never in a million years would have thought that his performance would be my favorite in this film, but the kid takes enough of Michael Biehn’s mannerisms (a lot of talking through his teeth) to make Kyle feel like the one we know without mimicking Biehn’s performance.

But instead Kyle is a plot device instead of a character and we have our lead split between two people, just enough so neither actually gets to be a character.

The rest of the cast, outside of Moon Bloodgood’s Blair, are just there to give us enough dialogue to get us to the next plot point. The biggest waste is Michael Ironside as the militaristic leader of the resistance and boy does he hate that John Connor! He grumbles about him a couple of times in the submarine that houses the resistance’s top minds so you know he seriously doesn't like that dude.

The effects are fine. You can tell money was spent and some fine artists stepped up and delivered. It’s easy to turn the mind off and enjoy the Harvester sequence, but that feels like an island in the movie, one of the only times when it feels like they cared about pacing and how things might cut together.

The much talked about Arnold cameo is pretty neat, but feels tacked on. There was a kid at our screening that shouted out, “Oh, it’s the guy from the other movies…” when CG Arnold steps into frame. Completely innocently, mind you. He wasn’t making a joke. And when he did that I felt like he vocalized exactly what McG and the studio execs had going through their minds when they came up with this. They heard that reaction going on in every audience member’s inner monologue and started salivating.

As a moment, yeah, it makes complete sense that Arnold’s there and I have no problem at all with the cameo. I just wish they had more time to develop it and actually made it part of the finale instead of “Oh, my God! It’s Schwarzenegger! Look, another shot of him, that looks… oh, his face is blown off now…” I realize they didn’t have the time to do that (and probably not the money that would cost to pull off), but that doesn’t change the fact that it feels tacked on as it stands.

Ultimately this film feels like it was two or three drafts away from being ready to shoot. Everything is so surface and on the nose and the narrative doesn’t seem to have a real driving force. It’s like they set up a ton of options, but couldn’t decide what to do. They could follow Kyle Reese through the wastelands with this lost man, Marcus, who is trying to find redemption, building on that dynamic (which admittedly has one or two decent scenes, like the much ballyhooed shotgun strap scene) or follow John Connor as he struggles against those in charge of the rebellion, growing from foot soldier to leader through his knowledge of the war and ability to inspire those around him. If they had decided to go one way or the other this would have been a much stronger movie. But they don't, they wanted to go for both options. It doesn't work. Trying to cram all that into one movie only makes the whole thing a mess.

Terminator Salvation is not trainwreck bad, but it’s lifeless and mediocre, which is almost worse.

-Quint
quint@aintitcool.com
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You Could Be Mine!!!
by GibsonUSA Returns
May 21st, 2009
03:28:13 AM
I kinda liked it
by lockesbrokenleg
May 21st, 2009
03:29:04 AM
Better than T3!
by sonnyfern
May 21st, 2009
03:31:58 AM
Somewhere...
by kwisatzhaderach
May 21st, 2009
03:32:25 AM
inspite of Bale it wasnt THAT Bad
by j2talk
May 21st, 2009
03:34:27 AM
Repent j2talk
by Continentalop
May 21st, 2009
03:39:12 AM
BIG DICKS.
by MelvintheMopBoy
May 21st, 2009
03:39:48 AM
Two of Quint's best lines ever
by drturing
May 21st, 2009
03:39:57 AM
Will Connor see the sail boat then?
by moviemaniac-7
May 21st, 2009
03:44:35 AM
Drturing....yeah dude..lol Quint made me
by southafricanguy
May 21st, 2009
03:44:52 AM
hey Kwis...hows it going dude? Have you seen
by southafricanguy
May 21st, 2009
03:45:53 AM
Good review -
by zapano
May 21st, 2009
03:47:11 AM
hmmm, these reviews are making me think its ok
by BMacSmith
May 21st, 2009
03:48:22 AM
Kyle Reese told me this is what McG's obit looks like
by drturing
May 21st, 2009
03:50:52 AM
Very Sad
by VFXpert
May 21st, 2009
03:52:48 AM
BMac
by Quint
May 21st, 2009
03:53:13 AM
Ok, my expectations are at an all-time low....
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
03:57:36 AM
Far superior to Knowles' review
by Star Hump
May 21st, 2009
04:01:26 AM
oh ok i probably agree
by BMacSmith
May 21st, 2009
04:04:52 AM
These reviews sadden me
by IAmMrMonkey!
May 21st, 2009
04:05:35 AM
Took me four tries to read this review
by Continentalop
May 21st, 2009
04:06:39 AM
BMac
by Quint
May 21st, 2009
04:07:33 AM
good review
by tobin_blade
May 21st, 2009
04:08:27 AM
i thought it was pretty badass even with stuff missing from orig
by beast2121
May 21st, 2009
04:11:32 AM
did Bale ruin the script when he requested more Connor?
by The Only Woj
May 21st, 2009
04:22:43 AM
Quint...
by SunTzu77
May 21st, 2009
04:22:55 AM
I saw it last night
by Fuck The Napkin
May 21st, 2009
04:25:40 AM
T4
by SunTzu77
May 21st, 2009
04:30:53 AM
I wonder how T2 would fair if it were released today...
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
04:35:20 AM
If you even thought this movie would turn out decent...
by Ravetin
May 21st, 2009
04:36:51 AM
BLAND music, BLAND writing... but still better than AVP
by CENOBITE
May 21st, 2009
04:40:43 AM
and where the fuck were the PURPLE LAZERS?!
by CENOBITE
May 21st, 2009
04:43:56 AM
If T2 Was Released Today
by LaserPants
May 21st, 2009
05:02:47 AM
Just got back - I thought it was fun
by Rindain
May 21st, 2009
05:03:54 AM
Is the Arnie scene worth it?
by Ronald Raygun
May 21st, 2009
05:09:53 AM
RighteousBrother
by irc-Hollywood
May 21st, 2009
05:28:28 AM
Spot on review.
by landosystem
May 21st, 2009
05:30:57 AM
Damn you McG
by --- Emperor ---
May 21st, 2009
05:31:14 AM
and another thing
by irc-Hollywood
May 21st, 2009
05:32:08 AM
LaserPants...we fucking get it dude
by TheMandrakeRoot
May 21st, 2009
05:32:31 AM
great review as always quint
by JeanLuc Dickhard
May 21st, 2009
05:40:49 AM
Bale fails in this film......
by RosebudsStarfish
May 21st, 2009
05:42:34 AM
irc-Hollywood....
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
05:45:49 AM
So in other words Quint, it's shit.
by BiggusDickus
May 21st, 2009
05:49:38 AM
irc-Hollywood
by digital_soul
May 21st, 2009
05:53:22 AM
Terminator 2 would not be shredded
by kwisatzhaderach
May 21st, 2009
05:55:04 AM
southafricanguy
by kwisatzhaderach
May 21st, 2009
05:56:12 AM
T2 is GREAT filmmaking...however........
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
05:58:42 AM
digital_soul
by irc-Hollywood
May 21st, 2009
06:12:26 AM
digital_soul
by irc-Hollywood
May 21st, 2009
06:13:14 AM
Aside from TREK and UP, it's a bad summer of movies
by The Gospel According to Bastardface
May 21st, 2009
06:13:23 AM
much better review
by TheExterminator
May 21st, 2009
06:14:35 AM

by theblackvegtable
May 21st, 2009
06:15:55 AM
digital_soul... again
by irc-Hollywood
May 21st, 2009
06:16:04 AM
Mandrake......amen brother.....will laserpants
by southafricanguy
May 21st, 2009
06:18:04 AM
he's repeated it ad naseum enough times now
by southafricanguy
May 21st, 2009
06:19:49 AM
Hey kwis....probably the same here, was
by southafricanguy
May 21st, 2009
06:21:12 AM
Hell...............the summers are always disappointing aren't t
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
06:21:50 AM
u hated TDK.?
by irc-Hollywood
May 21st, 2009
06:28:03 AM
So Transform, Harry, you Basterd...
by MotherPussBucket
May 21st, 2009
06:28:32 AM
your poor grasp of grammer
by irc-Hollywood
May 21st, 2009
06:29:12 AM
kwisatzhaderach
by LaserPants
May 21st, 2009
06:31:15 AM
Jonathan Mostow Is No McG
by Roboteer
May 21st, 2009
06:39:59 AM
ThePilgrim,
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
May 21st, 2009
06:49:26 AM
LaserPants
by kwisatzhaderach
May 21st, 2009
06:54:42 AM
southafricanguy
by kwisatzhaderach
May 21st, 2009
06:56:10 AM
DerLanghaarige
by AsimovLives
May 21st, 2009
07:11:27 AM
Maybe T4 will make people realise...
by AsimovLives
May 21st, 2009
07:12:32 AM
And Jay Jay's Star Dreck is still shit
by AsimovLives
May 21st, 2009
07:15:37 AM
"Lifeless and Mediocre" Summer 2009's catch-phrase?
by Royston Lodge
May 21st, 2009
07:24:51 AM
The McG "Obituary"
by Jared Syn
May 21st, 2009
07:27:12 AM
And another swipe at TPM...
by Arteska
May 21st, 2009
07:27:26 AM
irc-Hollywood..I loved TDK! Fucking LOVED IT!
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
07:33:35 AM
Good Fucking Shit
by Aquatarkusman
May 21st, 2009
07:38:04 AM
I find it a bit funny...
by Mr. Graboid
May 21st, 2009
07:39:01 AM
"The movie everyone has been waiting to see
by I am_NOTREAL
May 21st, 2009
07:44:24 AM
If T2 were released today...
by TurdontheRun
May 21st, 2009
07:45:32 AM
T2 was a watershed moment
by Arteska
May 21st, 2009
07:51:44 AM
I experienced T2 in a theatre....
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
07:56:54 AM
Sounds good to me!
by vezner2007
May 21st, 2009
07:57:21 AM
Empire give it ****
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
08:03:33 AM
Church of Bale nonesense
by name818
May 21st, 2009
08:05:50 AM
LaserPants--fuckin die already ya cunt!
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
08:06:22 AM
Laser--
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
08:09:52 AM
STILL GOING TO MAKE MONEY
by LoLWut
May 21st, 2009
08:09:56 AM
ThePilgrim
by superfleish76
May 21st, 2009
08:14:21 AM
sixdemonbag, Kwis, Asimov....thanks for
by southafricanguy
May 21st, 2009
08:17:19 AM
gee... you compare a Cameron movie to McG
by Happy Boy
May 21st, 2009
08:18:53 AM
oh and i cannot forget my brother in arms
by southafricanguy
May 21st, 2009
08:20:40 AM
I want more for the summer......
by Sparhawk38
May 21st, 2009
08:25:36 AM
I also caught a bit of T3 last night...
by TheMandrakeRoot
May 21st, 2009
08:29:01 AM
Mr. Graboid
by i.baronvladimir
May 21st, 2009
08:31:26 AM
Whoever said Bale...
by SunTzu77
May 21st, 2009
08:36:15 AM
From which scene Bale´s rant came from?
by PedroM
May 21st, 2009
08:37:27 AM
Brad Fiedel was Available
by kevinwillis.net
May 21st, 2009
08:37:37 AM
Nick Stahl and T3.........
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
08:37:47 AM
New Moon will DOMINATE THIS SHIT
by 35MinutesAgo
May 21st, 2009
08:43:25 AM
T3 is what it is
by Mr Slippy Fist
May 21st, 2009
08:44:50 AM
Great Stuff
by jingle_balls
May 21st, 2009
08:47:31 AM
it's cute how some TBers have unionized
by 35MinutesAgo
May 21st, 2009
08:48:19 AM
The ending of T3 is great....
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
08:48:44 AM
Oh, I remember that Phantom Menace moment...
by kevred
May 21st, 2009
08:51:39 AM
Haha yes he does look terrible
by TheMandrakeRoot
May 21st, 2009
08:51:47 AM
Harry Potter will redeem the summer
by kevred
May 21st, 2009
08:52:54 AM
yeah but HOW WAS THE LIGHTING???
by Maniaq
May 21st, 2009
08:53:18 AM
I've been bagging on Yelchin for months
by smackfu
May 21st, 2009
08:55:00 AM
"Was the lighting professional?"
by Jared Syn
May 21st, 2009
08:58:15 AM
The big summer movie as we know it...
by Mr. Graboid
May 21st, 2009
09:05:00 AM
****Total Film review!
by HarryBlackPotter
May 21st, 2009
09:05:48 AM
What movie did the AICN guys see?
by alphega
May 21st, 2009
09:07:21 AM
Why wasnt James Cameron involved somehow?
by Mr. Graboid
May 21st, 2009
09:07:49 AM
Laserpants
by Cptn_Howdee
May 21st, 2009
09:12:55 AM
The Big Summer movie is dead.......
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
09:13:30 AM
Why wasn't Harlan Ellison involved somehow?
by Baryonyx
May 21st, 2009
09:26:33 AM
T2 would still be considered a classic if released today
by LabattsBleu
May 21st, 2009
09:27:18 AM
can't be any worse than FREEJACK...
by krull rules
May 21st, 2009
09:27:22 AM
RighteousBrother
by Mr. Graboid
May 21st, 2009
09:28:00 AM
Good review Quint!
by LabattsBleu
May 21st, 2009
09:28:36 AM
Mr. Graboid
by Baryonyx
May 21st, 2009
09:37:21 AM
Mr Grabboid......that response was....
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
09:39:47 AM
Laser's MO
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
09:40:34 AM
Why does it seem AICN is the only site...
by Brody77
May 21st, 2009
09:50:57 AM
Let's be real here:
by TheLastCleric
May 21st, 2009
09:52:07 AM
I like Bale...just not as Batman
by Underoos Hero
May 21st, 2009
10:02:07 AM
Fucking hell, here we go....
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
10:04:03 AM
T2 would have taken some serious hits if released today
by TheLastCleric
May 21st, 2009
10:04:05 AM
Brody77
by sokitome
May 21st, 2009
10:09:04 AM
Bale is like....
by Underoos Hero
May 21st, 2009
10:09:28 AM
Worst of the series
by AtomicRoboticZombieWearwolf
May 21st, 2009
10:13:03 AM
To those that have seen it......
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
10:16:08 AM
Abrams did what McG couldn't
by performingmonkey
May 21st, 2009
10:16:25 AM
T3 has a RT score of 70%
by TheLastCleric
May 21st, 2009
10:19:57 AM
Fuck it....
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
10:21:25 AM
"Outside of Moon Bloodgood’s Blair..." ???
by SierraTangoFoxtrotUniform
May 21st, 2009
10:30:31 AM
Theinternet is ruining our experience of movive going
by masteryoda007
May 21st, 2009
10:30:42 AM
RighteousBrother
by TheLastCleric
May 21st, 2009
10:31:04 AM
Everyone here should watch Heckler
by TheLastCleric
May 21st, 2009
10:36:34 AM
The PLOT for Terminator 5 should be
by soccerfan33
May 21st, 2009
10:38:30 AM
performingmonkey
by Orbots Commander
May 21st, 2009
10:38:44 AM
TheLastCleric
by Firbolog
May 21st, 2009
10:42:34 AM
The Last Cleric.....
by RighteousBrother
May 21st, 2009
10:44:10 AM
Saw it at midnight last night.....
by nrn
May 21st, 2009
10:45:09 AM
McG directs like JarJar: cobble together plagiarism.
by kabong
May 21st, 2009
10:57:18 AM
HarryBlackPotter
by alucardvsdracula
May 21st, 2009
10:59:49 AM
CLeric
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
10:59:55 AM
Phantom Menace was really bad, but
by johnnyangel
May 21st, 2009
11:01:22 AM

by rfid
May 21st, 2009
11:01:25 AM
Now that the film is OFFICIALLY ASS JUICE
by alucardvsdracula
May 21st, 2009
11:02:37 AM
How does one hate T3?
by BlokNarpin
May 21st, 2009
11:03:57 AM
And you can all fuck off. Phantom Menace owned my ass.
by alucardvsdracula
May 21st, 2009
11:04:07 AM
Saw it last night. It SUCKED
by mefrog
May 21st, 2009
11:08:49 AM
T3 ending was the best thing in the entire franchise.
by alucardvsdracula
May 21st, 2009
11:09:26 AM
"It's that guy from the other movies"?!?!
by Thrillho77
May 21st, 2009
11:12:32 AM
Helena Bonham Carter a tribute.
by alucardvsdracula
May 21st, 2009
11:17:52 AM
mefrog
by Orbots Commander
May 21st, 2009
11:20:51 AM
alucardvsdracula - Mad Goblins?
by HarryBlackPotter
May 21st, 2009
11:21:13 AM
***** Quint, I agree with EVERYTHING you said. *****
by JDanielP
May 21st, 2009
11:21:18 AM
How can you not know Arnold?
by David Cloverfield
May 21st, 2009
11:22:28 AM
Firbolog, that is a fair point
by TheLastCleric
May 21st, 2009
11:22:54 AM
I agree about the soundtrack
by johnyaztec
May 21st, 2009
11:34:36 AM
Mixes opinions on T2...
by kaspianwithak
May 21st, 2009
11:36:29 AM
Since everyone is in such a bad mood...
by Arteska
May 21st, 2009
11:36:46 AM
if my aunt had balls..
by markthrust
May 21st, 2009
11:37:03 AM
JDanielP does not exist in this dojo
by Cobra--Kai
May 21st, 2009
11:41:56 AM
Thabk you Quint Awesome review , JDanielP => right on brother !
by paulyd30
May 21st, 2009
11:42:12 AM
Quint, I believe I spotted a typo
by hobsnobber
May 21st, 2009
11:44:49 AM
Isn't Brad Fiedel in goal for the Villa on Sunday?
by phoenixflames
May 21st, 2009
11:50:21 AM
Like WOLVERINE...
by THE TRUE PINBACK
May 21st, 2009
12:07:50 PM
And Arnold's In It...
by THE TRUE PINBACK
May 21st, 2009
12:09:08 PM
"...movie everyone wanted to see...'
by Cellar Door
May 21st, 2009
12:22:30 PM
Arnie to the state of California
by johnnyangel
May 21st, 2009
12:25:37 PM
HOLY FUCK YOU ARE ALL FAT FUCKING NERDS
by COCKNASTY_BUTTSTANK
May 21st, 2009
12:28:06 PM
Dead on accurate review!
by matthooper8
May 21st, 2009
12:29:01 PM
Quint, again...
by Retlaw Kciuq
May 21st, 2009
12:30:56 PM
When Helena showed up I thought I was watching Burton
by lockesbrokenleg
May 21st, 2009
12:35:08 PM
Modern Movies and Modern Audiences Suck
by MANZILLA
May 21st, 2009
12:39:05 PM
Best Review Ive Read Quint
by MANZILLA
May 21st, 2009
12:39:47 PM
Is it just me or is The Dark Knight over rated
by JackGraham
May 21st, 2009
12:40:42 PM
This movie NUKED THE COPTER!!!
by lockesbrokenleg
May 21st, 2009
12:43:26 PM
Random thought
by kwisatzhaderach
May 21st, 2009
12:48:11 PM
JackGraham (RE: The Dark Knight)...
by MisterE
May 21st, 2009
12:48:40 PM
JackGraham
by kwisatzhaderach
May 21st, 2009
12:51:21 PM
JackGraham
by Arteska
May 21st, 2009
12:54:13 PM
Like, but didn't love TDK.
by imagin78
May 21st, 2009
12:54:28 PM
imagin78
by kwisatzhaderach
May 21st, 2009
12:57:07 PM
Quint you say you kinda liked it BUT
by picardsucks
May 21st, 2009
01:00:44 PM
God, I might as well
by I am_NOTREAL
May 21st, 2009
01:01:04 PM
It seems i'm not alone .....
by JackGraham
May 21st, 2009
01:06:12 PM
DON'T FEED THE MONTSER
by HerbWestAustin
May 21st, 2009
01:06:19 PM
1.5 Stars / 5 in the Austin Chronicle
by Aquatarkusman
May 21st, 2009
01:07:10 PM
TDK was the best movie last year by far
by lockesbrokenleg
May 21st, 2009
01:09:19 PM
My Problem With TDK
by Aquatarkusman
May 21st, 2009
01:10:57 PM
"Oh look, it's Arnold!"
by HB_Dad
May 21st, 2009
01:11:37 PM
Apparantly this movie got released early?
by HB_Dad
May 21st, 2009
01:16:38 PM
NO ONE GIVES A SHIT IF YOU DIDNT LIKE TDK
by BMacSmith
May 21st, 2009
01:23:38 PM
Everybody is entitled to their opinion
by TheLastCleric
May 21st, 2009
01:27:47 PM
You guys whio have problems with TDK...
by AsimovLives
May 21st, 2009
01:31:50 PM
alucardvsdracula
by AsimovLives
May 21st, 2009
01:34:55 PM
Kirk Acevedo (Charlie) FIRED from Fringe!
by itrainmonkeys
May 21st, 2009
01:39:54 PM
FOCK YOU, ASSHOLE!
by AzulTool
May 21st, 2009
01:41:01 PM
I agree, Cameron is an action God
by BillEmic
May 21st, 2009
01:42:25 PM
the word OVERRATED should be banned from vocabulary
by BMacSmith
May 21st, 2009
01:43:08 PM
AsimovLives
by I am_NOTREAL
May 21st, 2009
01:45:05 PM
thought this was cute
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
01:45:55 PM
I said this in the other TB...
by ebonic_plague
May 21st, 2009
01:46:49 PM
Damn AsimovLives, I had problems with TDK...
by Continentalop
May 21st, 2009
01:50:21 PM
sokitome
by Brody77
May 21st, 2009
01:51:48 PM
McG
by Embeedeuce
May 21st, 2009
01:53:17 PM
I should have a thick raging opinion about this...
by FlickaPoo
May 21st, 2009
01:56:06 PM
I bet this fucker makes more than Star Trek Shit Fest at the box
by scriptgirl_nipples
May 21st, 2009
01:56:38 PM
Just watched T1 last night...
by Sardonic
May 21st, 2009
01:58:16 PM
You are almost fucking SPOT-ON, Quint.
by Kid Idioteque
May 21st, 2009
02:03:04 PM
LET'S WRAP THIS TB UP
by Continentalop
May 21st, 2009
02:05:12 PM
The Terminator Sequels are Crap...
by The_Floating_Skull_of_Robert_L oggia
May 21st, 2009
02:07:18 PM
"Cancera Bonham Carter"
by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer
May 21st, 2009
02:15:33 PM
I KNEW THIS WAS SHIT
by Chutch
May 21st, 2009
02:17:12 PM
If JJ Abrams directed this EXACT same film...
by The_Floating_Skull_of_Robert_L oggia
May 21st, 2009
02:18:16 PM
JJ Abrams
by Jake_Holman
May 21st, 2009
02:20:48 PM
AsimovLives
by kwisatzhaderach
May 21st, 2009
02:22:50 PM
Praise Quint!
by damned-dirty-ape
May 21st, 2009
02:23:40 PM
my only problem with T3 was that is wasnt needed
by BMacSmith
May 21st, 2009
02:23:42 PM
Terminator 3
by kwisatzhaderach
May 21st, 2009
02:27:01 PM
You Know what would have made Salvation great?
by The_Floating_Skull_of_Robert_L oggia
May 21st, 2009
02:30:07 PM
The BIG flaw with T2...
by DrEdwardMorbius
May 21st, 2009
02:32:00 PM
continentalop
by otm shank
May 21st, 2009
02:38:52 PM
Not a flaw at all...
by TurdontheRun
May 21st, 2009
02:42:21 PM
Revisionist minimization of old films
by Arteska
May 21st, 2009
02:43:29 PM
I'd argue that T1 was actually a horror film
by TheLastCleric
May 21st, 2009
02:45:01 PM
is lame
by Arteska
May 21st, 2009
02:45:15 PM
Actually, that time travel organic mumbo jumbo
by TheLastCleric
May 21st, 2009
02:50:05 PM
you know what the plot of terminator 3 SHOULD have been?
by MrHyde
May 21st, 2009
02:50:56 PM
Reign of Fire could use a Re-Boot
by zinc_chameleon
May 21st, 2009
02:51:33 PM
Actually, Cameron and Winston did do T3...
by Arteska
May 21st, 2009
02:55:40 PM
otm shank
by Continentalop
May 21st, 2009
02:56:03 PM
For newbies. Watch Salvation 1st and go backwards
by Knobules
May 21st, 2009
02:57:44 PM
Continentalop
by otm shank
May 21st, 2009
02:59:14 PM
wasn't interested before
by smudgewhat
May 21st, 2009
03:00:09 PM
T23D...
by TurdontheRun
May 21st, 2009
03:01:39 PM
McG Failed - Cool action though;)
by BillyMayesHere
May 21st, 2009
03:01:43 PM
scriptgirl nipples
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
03:02:10 PM
Pop quiz--what was the "popcorn movie" of 2005?
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
03:03:03 PM
Cameron didnt need to show FUTURE WAR!!!
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
03:06:24 PM
CGI ARNOLD WAS A JOKE LIKE THIS SHIT...
by AwkwardAvenue
May 21st, 2009
03:07:40 PM
Wasn't it Popcorn III : The search for more butter.
by otm shank
May 21st, 2009
03:07:53 PM
I guess Lucy Gordon finally watched Spiderman 3.
by AzulTool
May 21st, 2009
03:10:56 PM
Cameron's sequel to T2
by Arteska
May 21st, 2009
03:11:51 PM
Six Demon Bag
by TurdontheRun
May 21st, 2009
03:14:11 PM
T1 vs T2 (again)
by spire_walk
May 21st, 2009
03:15:52 PM
AsimovLives - only hope for the summer is
by son_of_ebert
May 21st, 2009
03:15:55 PM
Six Demon Bag
by alucardvsdracula
May 21st, 2009
03:17:53 PM
Since posting The Dark Knight article ....
by JackGraham
May 21st, 2009
03:18:51 PM
Quick, look here young naked teenage whores...
by alucardvsdracula
May 21st, 2009
03:19:54 PM
T2 is NOT a remake
by TurdontheRun
May 21st, 2009
03:25:24 PM
I knew this summer would be shit.....
by TheWaqman
May 21st, 2009
03:29:00 PM
Seriously how do you enter line breaks?
by TheWaqman
May 21st, 2009
03:29:25 PM
Line Breaks 2: Electric Boogaloo
by Vic Twenty
May 21st, 2009
03:34:05 PM
Asimov, I agree T3 is underated.
by ganymede3010
May 21st, 2009
03:34:49 PM
GRR < p >
by Vic Twenty
May 21st, 2009
03:34:49 PM
It seems that all Terminator and Trek talkbacks
by I am_NOTREAL
May 21st, 2009
03:35:06 PM
ganymede3010 - That is the required mindset for enjoyment.
by Vic Twenty
May 21st, 2009
03:36:49 PM
Your Impotent, Incoherent Geek Rage Merely Feeds My Ego
by LaserPants
May 21st, 2009
03:45:26 PM
I agree with ebonic_plague
by smackfu
May 21st, 2009
03:46:57 PM
T2 and time travel...
by Cellar Door
May 21st, 2009
03:49:30 PM
The Cameron Fags were my favorite britpop band in the 90's
by AzulTool
May 21st, 2009
03:52:38 PM
Oh yeah...campiness in T2
by Cellar Door
May 21st, 2009
03:55:45 PM
Whats the biggest plot hole in any movie? ...
by JackGraham
May 21st, 2009
04:11:53 PM
JackGraham
by Continentalop
May 21st, 2009
04:14:49 PM
saw it last night.... another franchise down the drain.
by TooWhippy
May 21st, 2009
04:20:09 PM
T3 is underrated alright
by drompter
May 21st, 2009
04:22:56 PM
Jaws 4 : the revenge is a plot hole in itself
by JackGraham
May 21st, 2009
04:25:06 PM
Bravo Quint. My thoughts EXACTLY.
by TylerDurden3395
May 21st, 2009
04:27:38 PM
Continentalop
by drompter
May 21st, 2009
04:30:26 PM
At least there is room for improvement
by Flapjacktits
May 21st, 2009
04:30:45 PM
JackGraham, Jaws the Revenge's biggest plot hole is...
by TylerDurden3395
May 21st, 2009
04:34:07 PM
casting decisions are not plot holes ...
by JackGraham
May 21st, 2009
04:36:04 PM
I don't know if I can top that drompter
by Continentalop
May 21st, 2009
04:38:15 PM
I agree TDK was boring....
by TooWhippy
May 21st, 2009
04:38:16 PM
Danny Elfmam
by rememberface
May 21st, 2009
04:44:08 PM
Original King Kong
by Continentalop
May 21st, 2009
04:44:12 PM
TooWhippy
by onaps6453
May 21st, 2009
04:45:30 PM
Haha tylerdurden3395 i must have missed that one ...
by JackGraham
May 21st, 2009
04:47:09 PM
independence day was on last night = plot holes
by JackGraham
May 21st, 2009
04:53:30 PM
Biggest plot hole: DePalma's THE FURY
by palimpsest
May 21st, 2009
04:55:01 PM
What about the Deathstar?
by theycallmemrtibbs
May 21st, 2009
04:55:45 PM
OCEAN's 12
by palimpsest
May 21st, 2009
05:00:47 PM
I didnt have a problem with Rebuilding The Deat Star
by MANZILLA
May 21st, 2009
05:01:15 PM
Star Trek and Up will be the best summer movies...
by Prof. Pop-Cult
May 21st, 2009
05:03:15 PM
Terminator: Suckvation.
by Zardoz
May 21st, 2009
05:06:04 PM
Plot hole (or at least a WTF?)
by otm shank
May 21st, 2009
05:06:47 PM
sadly it'll make money and McG will continue to work.
by FleshMachine
May 21st, 2009
05:08:53 PM

by FleshMachine
May 21st, 2009
05:10:11 PM
Still seeing it to make my own opinion
by spectrebeeyatch
May 21st, 2009
05:10:35 PM
another take on Death Star boys
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
05:10:45 PM
te built 2 Death Stars for a reason. duh.
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
05:12:32 PM
Laser you dumb fucking idiot
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
05:15:40 PM
Turd
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
05:16:56 PM
Quint's Review>PogoPope's>Harold's.
by Sal_Bando
May 21st, 2009
05:18:03 PM
I'm currently watching Batman Begins and ...
by JackGraham
May 21st, 2009
05:24:32 PM
Or better yet...
by theycallmemrtibbs
May 21st, 2009
05:27:28 PM
Jack Graham
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
05:28:22 PM
theycallmemrtibbs
by Continentalop
May 21st, 2009
05:33:32 PM
Empire Strikes Back
by Continentalop
May 21st, 2009
05:34:39 PM
DIE HARD 4.0 OR LIVE FREE DIE HARD
by JackGraham
May 21st, 2009
05:37:16 PM
Continentalop
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
05:38:16 PM
Conti--help me out with this one Superman question
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
05:38:53 PM
Six Demon Bag - Star Wars plot hole
by TurdontheRun
May 21st, 2009
05:39:56 PM
JackGraham
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
05:40:00 PM
At least the trailers were good
by kafka07
May 21st, 2009
05:40:23 PM
the t rex going for a swim was a mild joke ...
by JackGraham
May 21st, 2009
05:45:28 PM
Bigger plot in Shawshank Jack
by Continentalop
May 21st, 2009
05:49:53 PM
The word overrated
by kafka07
May 21st, 2009
05:50:35 PM
I gotta better question Jackgraham....
by theycallmemrtibbs
May 21st, 2009
05:50:41 PM
ATTENTION
by Trannyformers_Apologist
May 21st, 2009
05:53:15 PM
this site is a joke!!
by TheLastBoyScout
May 21st, 2009
05:59:18 PM
Listen, no matter how many Death Stars the Rebels blow up
by smackfu
May 21st, 2009
06:00:23 PM
Seriously, how was the lighting???
by purplemonkeydw
May 21st, 2009
06:00:48 PM
The Du Fresnes are missing
by smackfu
May 21st, 2009
06:02:32 PM
Yeah Smackfu but......
by theycallmemrtibbs
May 21st, 2009
06:04:14 PM
Yeah Smackfu but......
by theycallmemrtibbs
May 21st, 2009
06:04:22 PM
TS is SW EP 1 without...
by Moviegimp
May 21st, 2009
06:04:41 PM
The joke is on Bale because yes, the lighting was better
by smackfu
May 21st, 2009
06:04:57 PM
hmmm ... maybe he got the brick
by JackGraham
May 21st, 2009
06:06:08 PM
They did fix their Death Star design flaws.
by smackfu
May 21st, 2009
06:08:29 PM
Jackgraham, I thought you needed a special license.....
by theycallmemrtibbs
May 21st, 2009
06:09:57 PM
Speaking of Jedi...
by TylerDurden3395
May 21st, 2009
06:11:40 PM
Storm Troopers
by Continentalop
May 21st, 2009
06:12:03 PM
and FYI Kryptonite doesn't kill, or even hurt Superman
by smackfu
May 21st, 2009
06:12:29 PM
I thought Kryptonite was a laxative
by Continentalop
May 21st, 2009
06:13:38 PM
This movie NUKED THE COPTER!!!
by lockesbrokenleg
May 21st, 2009
06:21:30 PM
Jedi plot hole
by TylerDurden3395
May 21st, 2009
06:23:30 PM
time to hit the sack its 00:08 hrs here in Scotland
by JackGraham
May 21st, 2009
06:28:33 PM
Does anyone think that this is a cut version?
by Lord Elric
May 21st, 2009
06:29:03 PM
Han Solo Was Definitely Emasculated In Jedi
by LaserPants
May 21st, 2009
06:30:38 PM
Just saw it
by Toonol
May 21st, 2009
06:31:59 PM
A Directors Cut could be in the works....
by theycallmemrtibbs
May 21st, 2009
06:32:36 PM
just got back from it
by Turd Furgeson
May 21st, 2009
06:39:06 PM
IF NOT FOLLOWING THE LORE OF SKYNET
by Grooveraider
May 21st, 2009
06:49:39 PM
Quint's review is dead-on/
by Batutta
May 21st, 2009
06:59:49 PM
How did a 90 pound Reese push a T-1000?
by matthooper8
May 21st, 2009
07:02:51 PM
Laser-fuck off!!
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
07:14:52 PM
"How did a 90 pound Reese push a T-1000?"
by UMAGA
May 21st, 2009
07:16:00 PM
i guarantee there is and unrated DVD on the way
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
07:17:28 PM
And the worst part?
by Firbolog
May 21st, 2009
07:34:43 PM
Anyone who says this is worse than T3...
by veebeeyes
May 21st, 2009
07:35:34 PM
2nd deathstar
by sokitome
May 21st, 2009
07:41:39 PM
star wars should read star trek
by sokitome
May 21st, 2009
07:42:19 PM
damn, also there and not their
by sokitome
May 21st, 2009
07:43:11 PM
Brody 77
by sokitome
May 21st, 2009
07:48:25 PM
just saw it.
by future help
May 21st, 2009
07:59:53 PM
Much worse than T-3
by matthooper8
May 21st, 2009
08:03:05 PM
Church of Bale
by Semen Stains
May 21st, 2009
08:11:59 PM
from the same planet
by spiceybiscuit
May 21st, 2009
08:17:44 PM
33% on Rotten Tomatoes
by LabattsBleu
May 21st, 2009
08:18:04 PM
List of Part 4's that are better than Terminator: Salvation
by TylerDurden3395
May 21st, 2009
08:18:28 PM
So no mention whatsoever time travel.
by the Green Gargantua
May 21st, 2009
08:23:26 PM
Fuck time travel.
by veebeeyes
May 21st, 2009
08:38:02 PM
I KNOW NOW WHY YOU CRY
by Virmire
May 21st, 2009
08:50:43 PM
I absolutly LOVED THIS MOVIE!!
by Caidema
May 21st, 2009
08:53:50 PM
NUKE THE COPTER!!!
by lockesbrokenleg
May 21st, 2009
08:55:45 PM
Crowd cheered when Arnold appeared
by Caidema
May 21st, 2009
08:56:26 PM
Terminator five plotline
by hallmitchell
May 21st, 2009
08:59:38 PM
Ho-hum-tastic
by The Dum Guy
May 21st, 2009
09:17:11 PM
veebeeyes
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
09:17:54 PM
I cheered when Arnold appeared.
by TylerDurden3395
May 21st, 2009
09:20:26 PM
The GUNS N ROSES SONG!!!!
by lockesbrokenleg
May 21st, 2009
09:31:37 PM
guns n roses song in T4?
by Six Demon Bag
May 21st, 2009
09:36:25 PM
maybe this is an obvious question
by NutritiousLove
May 21st, 2009
09:42:13 PM
Yeah, they use the "You will be mine" song again
by lockesbrokenleg
May 21st, 2009
10:00:11 PM
Oh Holy Shit
by joshuavance1701
May 21st, 2009
10:13:42 PM
NutritiousLove
by The Dum Guy
May 21st, 2009
10:25:47 PM
i fucking loved the movie
by Caidema
May 21st, 2009
10:32:29 PM
MY REVIEW
by Caidema
May 21st, 2009
10:35:58 PM
veebeeyes: WRONG
by the Green Gargantua
May 21st, 2009
10:47:41 PM
Now THIS movie would be a kick ass TV series
by lockesbrokenleg
May 21st, 2009
11:22:41 PM
KIDDING ME!?! JUST SHOOT KYLE IN THE HEAD!!!!!
by soloaj
May 21st, 2009
11:30:44 PM
Maybe killing Kyle wasn't their plan
by lockesbrokenleg
May 21st, 2009
11:52:05 PM
The Terminator chronology makes sense, if you think about it
by NeoDevilbaneX
May 21st, 2009
11:59:47 PM
Continentalop:Here's how Vader force choked someone from afar!
by ganymede3010
May 22nd, 2009
02:19:10 AM
Here's my two cents.
by Alphanumeric1971
May 22nd, 2009
03:16:56 AM
But ganymede
by Continentalop
May 22nd, 2009
03:55:16 AM
Fuck this PG-13 teenie bullshit movie to hell!
by Motoko Kusanagi
May 22nd, 2009
04:41:07 AM
"Why not shoot Kyle Reese" plot hole
by su12345
May 22nd, 2009
05:24:58 AM
Speaking of music...
by dxf138
May 22nd, 2009
07:16:43 AM
Fuck alternate timelines.
by veebeeyes
May 22nd, 2009
08:04:46 AM
su12345
by sokitome
May 22nd, 2009
08:21:07 AM
before anyone says it
by sokitome
May 22nd, 2009
08:24:04 AM
"This flick didn't offend me!" - Ain't It Cool News
by reflecto
May 22nd, 2009
09:03:20 AM
Plot holes....you sure? (SW, Shawshank, SR, etc)
by Cellar Door
May 22nd, 2009
09:17:20 AM
"Might be possible..."
by veebeeyes
May 22nd, 2009
09:26:13 AM
I'm not going to get sucked into the
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
May 22nd, 2009
09:37:07 AM
So 'might be possible' = 'making shit up'?
by Cellar Door
May 22nd, 2009
10:17:30 AM
Cite one thing in the movie...
by veebeeyes
May 22nd, 2009
10:44:29 AM
Music
by unclebusu
May 22nd, 2009
11:08:18 AM
Sokitome
by su12345
May 22nd, 2009
11:14:03 AM
Plot Holes Part deux ... Rise of the plot holes ... again
by JackGraham
May 22nd, 2009
12:04:57 PM
Spiderman 2
by JackGraham
May 22nd, 2009
12:19:32 PM
Cellar Door
by Continentalop
May 22nd, 2009
03:09:36 PM
The Matrix.
by veebeeyes
May 22nd, 2009
03:11:37 PM
Re:Actually, that time travel organic mumbo jumbo
by eXcommunicated
May 22nd, 2009
03:23:34 PM
I remember reading a Dark Horse Terminator Comic
by theycallmemrtibbs
May 22nd, 2009
04:39:24 PM
veebeeyes
by smackfu
May 22nd, 2009
07:15:54 PM
Technological advances...
by veebeeyes
May 22nd, 2009
07:36:28 PM
The Matrix
by LabattsBleu
May 22nd, 2009
11:19:50 PM
That's all fine and well...
by veebeeyes
May 23rd, 2009
10:55:06 AM
veebeeyes
by LabattsBleu
May 23rd, 2009
11:15:30 AM
Best summer movie so far...
by ackman81
May 23rd, 2009
08:12:33 PM
I preferred Star Trek
by mponte10006
May 23rd, 2009
11:47:06 PM
I didn't think Yelchin was wimpy.
by veebeeyes
May 24th, 2009
12:53:52 AM
Pilgrim, I'm with you on this.
by A_Clockwork_Irony
May 24th, 2009
07:53:41 PM
Oh, and Quint, yes, mediocre IS worse
by A_Clockwork_Irony
May 24th, 2009
08:16:52 PM

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