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I've just always wanted to do that. Sweet.
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But probably not. Though why doesn't anyone ever explore in a movie or book leftist extremism? The whole righ-wing/fascism nightmare scenario is played out and boring. I mean, seriously, extremism of any form is dangerous and leads to only one outcome- total rule by a few. Fascism and communism are two sides of the same coin. Let's get our emotions under control, and look at our government as the potential problem NOT our potential savior. I now return the soapbox.
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Let's hope it doesn't flop so that it can fill the void left by Lost and Galactica.
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The cool thing about the original mini series was that you didn't know the visitors were lizards in disguise. It was a big shock at the time.
Now that everyone knows that - what surprises do they have in store?
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hasn't all media since after WWII until the early 90s been about leftst extremism? russian spies, all that stuff.
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I like it.Let´s give it a chance.
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Morena Baccarin makes you not care she's a lizard. You're willing to take the risk.
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Everything takes place in New York now, we get it, 911 metaphor, blah blah, Can't we have something other than sitcoms take place in LA anymore?
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Also, does this mean Juliette is really dead?? It didn't appear that she had met Jacob in the past as was shown in the other flashbacks.
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They cut the cheese factor and it seems a little more subtle than the in your face nazi symbolism. Also they know from the start that it's meant to be a series with 50-100 episodes so we won't have disaster like the TV-series that followed the minis. That they hired some lead actors that can actually act doesn't hurt either(sorry Marc Singer and blond chick). Don't misunderstand me. I fucking love the original to death, but there is a lot of stuff to improve.
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If this series reflects the media at all, then they need to be portrayed as the soul-selling whores that they really are. Would any modern "journalist" have ANY qualms about not reporting the truth? Puh-leez
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If this series reflects the media at all, then they need to be portrayed as the soul-selling whores that they really are. Would any modern "journalist" have ANY qualms about not reporting the truth? Puh-leez
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The cast does nothing for me, and Morena's boy-cut makes me flaccid.
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Start watching when things really get going. And this whole religion thing gives a bad BSG vibe. Throw away the religion stuff, and this is a winner.
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No more Beastmaster vs. Pouty Bitch but hey, the '80s are way over. New V looks right for the times.
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I always thought V was ripe for a remake, but the ideas they were proposing sounded way off. Having said that, most of the clips are pretty good. i think this is a must see.
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Yes reptilian aliens who appear to be human want to enslave humanity...
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I just can't see it being the genre defining tv that the original was. Mostly because everyone knows the story.
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THEY'VE COME TO RAPE OUR PLANET AND MURDER US!!!
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Yeah, I'm down... They probably aren't meaning for this to be an Anti-Obama show, but that is how I am currently taking it.
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I kind of wished BSG would have gone in that direction. The skinjobs hide out on Caprica and then we see how they planned the attack.
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I fear there will be some twist that a key human will be an alien this whole time and thus lead to the mandatory twist that every tv show has these days.
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Have a freaking plan for the whole series. Map out exactly how many seasons you want to tell this story, and have a clear idea of how you want to get there. For the love of God, don't make it up as you go along -- don't indulge in the Battlestar Galactica jackassery of pulling the secret six out of your ass at the 11th hour. Be entertaining, but almost as importantly, create a story with some narrative integrity.
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They have very VERY short-term memories, and little grasp of the facts. The top two works of dystopian literature, Nineteen Eighty-Four and Brave New World, both depict the horrors of a _left_ wing society run amok. As for films, hell, last year saw "Der Baader Meinhof Komplex" nominated for the Academy Award for Best Foreign Film. Being the uneducated uninformed freetards that you are, I should inform you that it's about a group in the German Red Army Faction, a leftist terrorist group. Not just a nominee, but the winner of the same award in 2007 went to "Das Leben Der Anderen," another German film about the evils of the East German (ohh, evil socialists!) Surveillance society. Ignorant conservative trolls are so easy to knock down.
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kinda hoping theyd go in a new direction with this. i mean, we know for a fact that aliens from another part of the galaxy ARE NOT GONNA LOOK LIKE US. the payoff is fucking lame and tired and outdated damit!
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not being all obvious with swastikas and stuff, but not even one red jumpsuit? C'mon!
Looks good though!
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The original ship designs were much better than these babylon 5 rejects, what a shame they had to use such lame, shiny, gray designs. It looks very very cheap, and it makes me wonder if they used Lightwave 5 on an Amiga or something. Morena looks sexy! Originally i thought casting Jody Lynn O'Keefe as Diana would have been obvious, but now i can see the genius in having Morena instead. She's very elegant, and has a certain spark in her eyes, like theres massive brain power in that head of hers. Rica e Inteligente...
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This trailer looks awesome. They appear to have perfectly captured the socio-political commentary that made the first one such enduring cultural imagery. Of course, it remains to be seen whether the authoritarian society depicted is right-wing (fascist) or left-wing (communist). Doubtless, ideologues on both sides will claim that it depicts their chosen adversary. Both will forget that the true enemy isn't how far left or right the economic policies are, but how authoritarian (as opposed to social libertarian) the policies are.
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in the first trailer when Anna is staring out a window on the mothership for about 1/10 of a second you can see her change her eyes from lizard to human.
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May 20, 2009 6:59:40 PM CDT
That shot of the face looks like she's blowing the city
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ABC has already announced that V is planned as a 4 year series with a beginning, a middle and an end. The series bible has already been planned out from start to finish.
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Better to be an American moonbat or wingnut than elitist Eurotrash.
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It's V. If it didn't have lizard people, it wouldn't be V.
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The actors reached truly eyebrow-singeing levels of awful and don't get me started on the CGI because it would only lead to a Windows-vs-Mac style incoherent rant. That blond chick was terrible, just terrible, the most generic form of instantly forgettable network acting. I've seen the original series on DVD and despite a rocky finish it won me over. Now there's a series that laid out its cards and played them to a convincing finish (assuming we omit the laughable sequel with the goofy reptile baby). I miss the metallic rasp of the Visitors' voices, one of the funnest things about the first series. So where is it? Did they take it out just to stick a fork in the eye of the first series? Truly pathetic when the Toys-R-Us model spaceships of the old miniseries beat what's on display here like a red headed stepchild. The networks do NOT understand sci-fi anymore. They keep getting it wrong, wrong, wrong. Between the backwash flavored FLASH FORWARD and this miserable imaginative failure of a series there'll be another two nails in the coffin of network SF.
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That video won't play for me. http://tiny.cc/G6LRz
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was really cool, the ship looked well-implemented and pretty real in that one. I continue to like what they are showing. and..THEYRE LIZARDS!
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There's a good chance it will be better the second time round..Not that the original sucked...but it wasn't Star Wars- so what do they have to lose?
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He says that only he can coin the word 'mothership'. ;)
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The first miniseries made the point that the Visitors intentionally marginalized and persecuted scientists. Scientists were the only people capable of seeing through the evil alien propaganda and figuring out what they were really doing to the planet. It looks like the reimagined version takes a heavily religious spin on things, dumping upsidedown everything the first series stood for and larding it up for creationist mouthbreathers in the Midwest and South. (I live in the Midwest, all I can say is at least it's not the South.) What a depressing and dystopian view of humanity if the only way we can be saved from alien invaders is by senseless devotion to 2,000 year old fairy tales instead of relying on the God-given brains and ingenuity that actually improve people's lives. There's a reason, you know, they call it _science_ fiction, not wishful thinking fantasy fiction.
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Really mediocre casting. Scott Wolf? What Stephen Dorff and John Schnieder unavailable?
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Looks pretty cool to me. But then again, V is pretty big source of childhood nostalgia for me. Still, it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up sucking. As much as I loved the original as kid, it was canceled for a reason. Either way, I'm gonna give "ULTIMATE" V a shot.
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If use of the word "mothership" is to be restricted to one man, please let that man be George Clinton.
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That blonde chick will be taking home Emmys for Lost this year.
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She did Angelina Jolie in Gia. Have you done that? No.
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Count me in.
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Had to throw that out there.
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I respectfully disagree. I mean, I don't really care about Scott Wolf one way or the other, but I know people said the same shit about Matthew Fox before Lost. Look how that turned out for him
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I'm sure there will be some left wing loones who will see this the same way. Frankly I do see the correlation here...
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..It's Elizabeth Mitchell's huge cans!! FUCKING OUR EYEBALLS IN 2009!!
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Do most of you people come to this website to bitch about EVERYTHING that comes out? To those that constantly have something bad to say about a project: How about putting out something yourselves. This new V looks pretty cool to me.
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This might be good...very good!
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(accidentally tagged out the previous post)
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I knew it!
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It's only the #1 show in America.
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Because there is no sign of it on ABC's Fall Line Up
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Dude. The eyes. They're crazy. It's a well-documented condition of the pupils...an indicator of future mental instability.
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It could work. I like Scott Wolf. I just kinda wish they'd kept some of the production design of the original, in the same way that Battlestar Galactica managed to. I also really fear that they've completely thrown out the Nazi allegory and replaced it with an "evil corporate Republicans" allegory.
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The original V was not about aliens and flying saucers; it was a political allegory about the nature of power. A lot of you little kids on this board wouldn't understand that...it goes way over your heads.
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Because there is nothing cool or interesting about American Idol.
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If you ever again call into question the integrity of SciFi's Mansquito I'll have more than words for you!
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Because the V lizards would be the skinniest critters you ever did see, in order to hide under all the human flesh.
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I was hoping that another girl had come to work for AICN.com, that would have been great.
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Lots and lots of exposition, explanations for what's going on, and they ruin the big reveal for the kids that never saw the original.
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Although, the last episode on tonight was pretty entertaining.. We go to see Santana, Kiss, Queen, Cindy Lauper... It was like the Grammys but better.
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Evil Corporate Republican Aliens: "We bring de-regulation!" But seriously, taking a symbol of the WW2 resistance movement and re-appropriating as a pro-Visitor symbol? That's pretty fucking stupid. Also, Homeland Security has been done as dystopian metaphor. It was called "Minority Report", fuckers! And, lastly, name one character as hot as Diana or as affable as Marc Singer in this trailer, and you are just plain fucking wrong! The effects look patently fake. In fact, the whole thing looks cheap. The original miniseries and its sequel had big ominous sets and Scary German Guy and Michael fucking Ironside as Ham Tyler! Yes, the Starchild and the birth were weak sauce, but outside of that, what shit was there to top? The iconic, the badass combat photography of the opening, the sense of anticipation. And the media as sell out whores theme was present in the original. People worshipping the Visitors? Not even Jesus freaks are that nuts. And, another thing, if you seriously believe Barack Obama is pillar of socialism, you really should read more. Only Sarah Palin I could see worshipping an alien. Interspecies abstinence: it works!
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This was kind of a cool promo two days ago when it was up on every other site out there.
Herc is lazy and narrow; his segment is like reading tv guide. Here is an idea, why not check out some cutting edge shows from other countries instead of wringing your hands over the fate of crap like chuck and doll house and scc - or even snl, for that matter. -
YEAH. I had no idea she was FBI. Nobody on TV today looks sexier holding a pistol!!
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Great Scott, Robin! To the Batmobile!
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May 20, 2009 10:59:20 PM CDT
OH, Steve 'Wild & Crazy Guy' Martin was on American Idol too
by mistergreen
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OMG Run for the hills! They're going to turn us all into back bacon and Timbits! Aaaaaaah!
Jeez how many Canadians did you spot in that trailer? If they're not guest starring on '24' the rest of them are on this show by the looks of it (c'mon! the host of Street Cents as a reporter? Puh-lease!). -
too much trust, too little info. i see IronKing above beat me to the idea, but it was my thought exactly.
I mean, it's about time someone pointed out that everyone's giving him too much credit for NO Reason. Past Performance? None. Record to Run On? none. Real Results? none. Anything other than smoke blown up our asses? None. Any evidence that he's NOT a secret radical working at the behest of others? NONE. Of course, you can't prove a negative....
Just kidding. It'd be interesting if a show did like an extended Manchurian Candidate kind of thing, like Kings, only in the real world. Maybe the guy who did the Shield can team up wtih Sorkin or something.... what? More lunatic ravings? Of course they are. They all are. -
too much trust, too little info. i see IronKing above beat me to the idea, but it was my thought exactly.
I mean, it's about time someone pointed out that everyone's giving him too much credit for NO Reason. Past Performance? None. Record to Run On? none. Real Results? none. Anything other than smoke blown up our asses? None. Any evidence that he's NOT a secret radical working at the behest of others? NONE. Of course, you can't prove a negative....
Just kidding. It'd be interesting if a show did like an extended Manchurian Candidate kind of thing, like Kings, only in the real world. Maybe the guy who did the Shield can team up wtih Sorkin or something.... what? More lunatic ravings? Of course they are. They all are. -
too much trust, too little info. i see IronKing above beat me to the idea, but it was my thought exactly.
I mean, it's about time someone pointed out that everyone's giving him too much credit for NO Reason. Past Performance? None. Record to Run On? none. Real Results? none. Anything other than smoke blown up our asses? None. Any evidence that he's NOT a secret radical working at the behest of others? NONE. Of course, you can't prove a negative....
Just kidding. It'd be interesting if a show did like an extended Manchurian Candidate kind of thing, like Kings, only in the real world. Maybe the guy who did the Shield can team up wtih Sorkin or something.... what? More lunatic ravings? Of course they are. They all are. -
too much trust, too little info. i see IronKing above beat me to the idea, but it was my thought exactly.
I mean, it's about time someone pointed out that everyone's giving him too much credit for NO Reason. Past Performance? None. Record to Run On? none. Real Results? none. Anything other than smoke blown up our asses? None. Any evidence that he's NOT a secret radical working at the behest of others? NONE. Of course, you can't prove a negative....
Just kidding. It'd be interesting if a show did like an extended Manchurian Candidate kind of thing, like Kings, only in the real world. Maybe the guy who did the Shield can team up wtih Sorkin or something.... what? More lunatic ravings? Of course they are. They all are. -
too much trust, too little info. i see IronKing above beat me to the idea, but it was my thought exactly.
I mean, it's about time someone pointed out that everyone's giving him too much credit for NO Reason. Past Performance? None. Record to Run On? none. Real Results? none. Anything other than smoke blown up our asses? None. Any evidence that he's NOT a secret radical working at the behest of others? NONE. Of course, you can't prove a negative....
Just kidding. It'd be interesting if a show did like an extended Manchurian Candidate kind of thing, like Kings, only in the real world. Maybe the guy who did the Shield can team up wtih Sorkin or something.... what? More lunatic ravings? Of course they are. They all are. -
too much trust, too little info. i see IronKing above beat me to the idea, but it was my thought exactly.
I mean, it's about time someone pointed out that everyone's giving him too much credit for NO Reason. Past Performance? None. Record to Run On? none. Real Results? none. Anything other than smoke blown up our asses? None. Any evidence that he's NOT a secret radical working at the behest of others? NONE. Of course, you can't prove a negative....
Just kidding. It'd be interesting if a show did like an extended Manchurian Candidate kind of thing, like Kings, only in the real world. Maybe the guy who did the Shield can team up wtih Sorkin or something.... what? More lunatic ravings? Of course they are. They all are. -
Just so another actress can audition for the 'teen pregnant by alien' role only to end up dead by her boyfriends hand before rehearsals even start for V.
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..."Interspecies Erotica".
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that is all
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The author of 'V' is anti-Bush, and just wrote a 'V' sequel that is specifically about the Bush administration. It will be fun if the right adopts this as about Obama. The first 'V' was very political, and this will be too. You more conservative viewers may want to watch something else if they are easily agitated by liberal television.
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The effects looked pretty lame,but there's a good cast,so I'll check it out. who's gonna play the "friendly" visitor?
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May 21, 2009 12:41:56 AM CDT
doodler: I don't think the aliens represent Obama...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
Unless, of course, they decide to raise income taxes, capital gains taxes, soda taxes, etc... Of course, they use the same sort of rhetoric and demand that the media treat them in a good light. I wonder: Do the aliens rely on 25 speech writers and a couple of well-paced teleprompters?
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I BET MORE THAN FEW GUYS BOPPED THEIR BOLOGNA TO HER.
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it's V. you have an inbuilt fanbase already as well as those who've never seen it before. you'll watch geeks. yes you will.
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I'm in. The original series was like crack for me as a kid.
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They will own that night of TV. It kind of makes me miss the days when Invasion played with Lost. I loved that show and was pretty pissed it got canceled just as it hit its stride. V & Lost together though? ABC will own the key demo aged geeks for one night a week.
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Nothing new I'm afraid...
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I could be wrong, but this looks like a really bad low-budget straight to DVD movie!
I watched the original V religiously when it came out and it rocked. Who can forget Robert "Freddy Krueger" Englund and Michael "Sam Fisher/Splinter Cell" Ironside alongside Marc "The Beastmaster" Singer battling those reptile hotties Diana and Lydia!
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and i liked the original alien voice effect, which was left out this time and changing the reporter from female to male totally screws up the whole lezbo vibe that was going on in the original mini
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Hope it keeps the same uniforms & cool fx noises from the original.
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you and your kind's idiotic talking points care to point out the speech made by bush sans teleprompter? and please dont point to that man's idiotic ramblings from on top the rubble at the former wtc all wingnuts are evil...every last one of you i hope there really is an alien invasion...i would feed the bunch of you to the lizard people and make this a better world but that probably wouldnt work, cuz i bet you all taste like shit
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the alian motherships looked much better in the original...is it me or are they much smaller in this new version?...the original ships seemed much larger with a much wider radius covered...show looks good though, the new LOST!
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But this looks pretty cool.
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..jus´sayin.
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"Yeah, those ships are awesome""No, dude, I meant your mom's cans. Can I motorboat them?"
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be impregnated with Lisa's reptile eggs.
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And I'm in.
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May 21, 2009 2:51:17 AM CDT
Beyond the fact that the ships dont look ibg enough, i will give
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a lot of different stories going on there that could keep my attention.
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because I'm nostalgic for the original. Sad that ABC keeps trying to make Scott Wolf happen, though. Rather insulting, as if they think all they need to do is fling a Party of Five alum to catch LOST fans interest. Hrrmmm. Party of V. I'd be up for Neve though. Her actor trajectory should be arriving back at TV about now, now that she isn't the new new thing/young lass, unless she is keeping her big screen life afloat by increasingly getting more naked and explicit in her roles.
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Englund, Singer, and Badler for recurring, small, or bit roles.
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Contrary to popular belief, not everyone in the South are creationist mouthbreaters or religious nutjobs.
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Fuck that!
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it should be and, not or.
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break out the Hoffman lenses coz I'm all out of bubblegum!!
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The premise is interesting, and the cast is pretty good, so I think it's worth checking out. I just hope Juliet's son doesn't turn out to be annoying and/or unlikable.
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hey as long as we get long, lingering shots of Mitchell's cans, I'm in
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can make anything watchable.
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Finkle and Einhorn. Finkle and Einhorn. Einhorn and Finkle. Finkle and Einhorn...
What the... That's it! Einhorn is Finkle! Finkle is Einhorn! Einhorn is a man!
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Ok I said it.
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Wipe the gay-porn-inspired cum off your fucking mouse finger before you post. Or are you Repugnican tools paid by the post count?
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i just don't believe blindly in Obama like everyone else. Unfortunately, he was the lesser of 2 bad choices last Nov....
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I was going to watch this anyway but my interest just increased a whole lot after seeing that last bit in the trailer.
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Maybe it'll stink, but I always cheer when I see an ex-Fireflier gainfully employed.
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i guess we know that Juliette won't be back next season. I never cared for the original V, but this one looks decent. I doubt it'll last, but we'll see. Not that i need another show to watch though.
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Difference between this and BSG is that this is set in our world, a world where it would no doubt take place. BSG just set up a bunch of BS and asked us to believe in it. NO need to do that here, we all already know about religion, belief and the power of such things.
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Are you retards seriously picking apart and critiquing a series plot/premise on a couple of youtube clips? Thats just pathetic.
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Has a singing career now.
She posted this on her Myspace page regarding V:
"Been alot goingon with all the excitement of the new V pilot Havent been locked in to series but had a great meeting with Jace Hall the exec producer and i know it will be a great pilot Cant wait to see it". -
for someone to recognize that the opening cuts are a virtual shot-by-shot copy of Independence Day?
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Writers, please prove me wrong.
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They should copy all of David Icke's ideas. It would be great entertainment.
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to use as food was way more disturbing that them wanting to simply wipe us out to have the planet to themselves.
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Oh...sorry.
The Visitors are NOT YOUR FRIEND!
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I bet they had to leave during the ice age and now thanks to our pollution we've warmed up the planet for the reptiles to feel warm and fuzzy again.
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...funny stuff there. Just wipe the spittle off your face before you go out in public.
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To the user or those who thought of ID4, please. V came out way before ID4 did. When I first saw it I thought they ripped off V with their same, exact round ships. That comment has no merit. As a huge V fan I have to ask where are the red jumpsuits and the awesome nazi looking logos. Please let these be in this new series. All I think we got to see was a glimpse of blue uniforms, at least that's what the blond Lisa character seemed to be wearing.
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i didn't say they ripped off the concept, i said they ripped off the shots of the ships arriving.
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what don't you fucking understand? ID4 ripped that shot from the original V. skyklonis told it do you and you still go on la-di-da-di-da. You and me we're done - professionally!
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Is this an anti-Obama parable? Could be, although that would take some serious balls on the part of ABC.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr5fIjpQUPI&NR=1
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LOL. I am so watching this.
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I'm not here to take sides. But I find it funny that you actually tried to bash ccchhhrrriiisssm for stating a factual opinion. The truth is, Obama is indeed raising income taxes, capital gains taxes, soda taxes, and he does use speech writers. Not to say the above is good or bad, but the fact you jump at someone's throat for stating the obvious is humorous at best.
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are they getting another "Party of Five" alum to headline an abc show? First Matthew Fox and now Scott Wolf? I think Uwe Boll should executive produce a remake of the classic Batman series on abc and get Adam West to do cameos as a janitor. Lol.
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Get back on the topic, I don't expect this to be any good. One, you get rid of Diana, one of the best sci-fi villains and change it to another female who looks like she should be guest hosting the View. The cast looks awful. I like Firefly too, but she looks totally uncomfortable in this role. The rest of the cast looks awful too. Scott Wolf, really, really?
Second, it looks like they want to do ID4 instead of V. The V symbol was given by the Holocaust survivors as a symbol for Victory not for Visitor. So, they already lost a ton of mythos there. Not to mention re-naming characters and changing around the character dynamics to attract more female viewers by having the annoying bitch from Lost on the show is not helping matters either.
Lastly, its on ABC and they will not do the full blown gross effects like in the original. The giant reveal and the alien birth sequence more then likely will not be shown. If this was on FX it could work, but not on the Disney network.
Now to this political thing. If they are trying to bash Obama, then it will fail. Its amazing how people complain about Obama, but forget he is trying to fix the ultra-conversatism that got us into this mess in the first place. People say that liberalism is evil compared to the last 8 years of conservative tyranny, I'll take paying higher taxes compared to getting people killed in a needless war and letting the corporate sector get away with murder. If the show takes an anit-Obama stance then they totally missed the point of the series in the first place. -
A telenova for gay white american males? I just don't get it...
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Anybody know? So much press and clips the last few days, but I can't find anywhere that it says when it premieres. I'm guessing Fall, but I just wanted to know in case they were launching in the summer. Looks good enough to check out, I guess. Anybody know when it starts?
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...who think this is all a rip off of Independence Day. Drop a fucking pair and do your research before opening your mouth!
The show is worth a try just based off of the fact hat the 4400 guy is at the helm. The first season of that show was good. I agree the efects are sub-par, but is it possible (with several months before it's release) that these effects we see in the trailer could be cleaned up? Just something I was pondering. -
but it seems quite a few people beat me to it
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sorry
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"Let's get our emotions under control, and look at our government as the potential problem NOT our potential savior."
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...unless they're able to muster up some goddamn decent special f/x. Nevertheless, I'll be watching and fantasizing about E.M.s mommy bags.
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In reality the first thing any mildly educated person would ask them after thinking about it for a few seconds is why they crossed the galaxy to find water when 2/3rds of H2O is hydrogen, the most plentiful element in the universe. It got away with it in the 80s but surely we need a bit more common sense these days in a premium show?
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And if they need the compound water ready-made, why not get it from our comets, Martian ice caps, etc? Quite possibly in the new version they're lying about wanting it, though.Looks pretty good so far. Just wish they'd kept the old character names. Erica Evans vs. Juliet Parish; Chad Decker vs. Mike Donovan; Anna vs. Diana. Seems no contest, why?? When I first heard those names it was like they were trying to make this suck but the newly released trailer/footage is mercifully good.
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It was just a JOKE, you stupid fuck! Besides, I didn't bring it up. If you want to talk about WINGNUTS, just look into the mirror, dude. You claim to be apolitical, but you constantly NAG against anyone who disagrees with the far left. Keep on talking, big mouth. You are about as "tolerant" as a member of the Nazi gestapo.
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...in a BATTLESTAR GALACTIC sort of way. I'm looking forward to it!
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I watched the original recently and there were so many parallels to the American Occupation in Iraq right now.
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..looks like the lovechild of Jamie Bamber and Michael J. Fox.
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I admit I havent been in the loop awhile but last time I checked Obama was John F. Kennedy, Franklin Roosevelt, and Jesus Christ all rolled into one. Are there even any Republicans left in the world?
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FAIL. His two moments in this trailer made me want to hurl a brick through my computer screen. Luchikly I love Morena and Juliet's cans.
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Ummm...there is NO "American occupation in Iraq" right now. We aren't "occupying" the nation. We are now in Iraq (along with other nations) to help KEEP THE PEACE for the legitimate, overwhelmingly elected Iraqi government.
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Who calls any kid past the age of 5 Tyler? I'd think he'd become Ty at some point. Nit picking over, looks like fun.
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I vote NO to Morena's new haircut! But I vote YES to the return of Juliet's cans!
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Get a clue. Seriously.
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..re-fires my old Catherine Bell woody, which has lain dormant for far too long.
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She had such beautiful and luxurious hair. Gone. All gone!
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"Get a clue?" Do you mean that I should listen to the talking point propaganda? Nah...I prefer to understand events fully before making a public display of ignorance. What part of "Iraq is not occupied" do you NOT understand? We are currently "peacekeepers" present to stabilize a nation in accordance with the request of the Iraqi government and chapters VI and VII of the United Nations' Charter. Clue? Read the UN charter and watch CSPAN instead of the Huffington Post.
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You don't deny that at some point, we *were* occupiers in Iraq? Is that it?
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Nah, you haven't been taking that in yourself the last eight years, have you? Follow your own advice, douchebag.
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...that´s all I had to share :( Looks good, this V remake.
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May 21, 2009 1:54:07 PM CDT
That looks encouragingly good. Glad they still have masks
by mr nicholas
I'd have hated it if they'd used CG morphing to show their real reptilian appearance.
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Oh man, is she smokin'.
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for Morena Baccarin to be that hot. She could cause car wrecks while walking down the street.
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and they will all look like JOE BIDEN!
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"Let's get our emotions under control, and look at our government as the potential problem NOT our potential savior."
Our government is us, assuming you're talking about America. So, we're the problem.
Bring on the lizards.
My biggest problem will be with how they handle the religious aspect. Now, I'm absolutely certain, lots and lots would flock to their choice of church after an alien arrival.
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Blame the clicker.
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Don't know how well-written this will be but it would be nice to have a show with a reasonable explanation as to why a superior species would be so slow to conquest. My best guess would be preservation of precious resources, not just water. If they're remotely compatible with us then that means a planet they can inhabit is very rare. If they go all out on war, they'll win, but they might lose a lot of what they came for. That makes sense. Either that or humans are just plain delicious and the V's hit the jackpot.
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... there wouldn't be lizard aliens, they'd look like nothing on Earth or ever imagined. Why does every alien in any science fiction movie or series look like some Earth species (reptile, insect, etc.) walking on two legs? (Yeah, yeah, I know... limited FX budgets and Hollywood's notorious lack of any imagination whatsoever)
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...Ha. They'd be like, "You apes STILL believe in that ludicrous nonsense?"
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... (Sorry, I forget her actual name at the moment) plays a total badass like she does on Lost. Lost to me has been slowly flirting with shark-jumping all this season and it finally happened when Juliet fell down that well and wacked that H-bomb with a rock. Seriously Lindeloff, you should have gotten rid of Kate. Now we all have to deal with Evangeline Lilly phoning in her performance all next year, too... if we don't just give up and tune out until the finale, that is.
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... got it right on the money. Surely if a species has developed interstellar travel they can easily combine all that oh-so-readily-available hydrogen with any all-too-common oxygen and make their own water. Barring that, just fly out to their systems Oort cloud and mines some comets for all they water they'd ever need. No need to get all heavy and put the hammer down on some backwater planet of hairless apes. Even then, they could just find a planet with no sentient life forms and take it over with no hassles. To me, V always was a pretty dumbass concept, I could never understand why such a fandom grew up around such a cheesy series.
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... are a couple of Catholic priests, right? That's cool, just keep 'em away from your kids.
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I mean, why the heck does american filmmakers think there's only ONE city in the hole Latin America? I mean, this is an alien invasion. If they are not the LAME kinds of alien, they should aim for cities that matter.
The only thing that matters in Rio is the Christ Redemer Statue. Nothing more. It's not an economical center. Not a political center. Not a military center. It's a TOURISM center. And it's the center of drug crime too, but these aliens don't seem they want a fix.
I even understand that they use Rio. If you'd show a skysight of a city that'd really matter, like Buenos Aires, Sao Paulo or Brasilia, no one would recognize it. The scene is there only to show that the aliens are worldwide. Nothing else. But it could be better worked. It's always Rio. -
Is it just me or did anyone else absolutely love the "cheese" factor of the Original? It was classic. Marc (that's right with a C bitches) Singer was awful and awesome. Why does every show have to take itself so seriously nowadays. I love the dark and dreary stuff (BSG) but sometimes it is great to just sit back and laugh at the cheese. Singer should at least get a cameo in this new one. I will be watching regardless.
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man if your name was bruce, that would be awesome.
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"Why Rio de Janiero? The only thing that matters in Rio is the Christ Redeemer Statue." And that is precisely why the city is used- it has a large geographical icon that instantly tells every viewer exactly where they are when they see it. Has nothing to do with what the city is or who lives there- its about iconography. Plus, it works in the context of the religious subtext that seems to be lurking within this adaptation.
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who do you think it was that busted Bader Meinhoff?
and before you try to claim it was anybody else, I worked on the US Military/DoD task force that brought them down in the early 80s. -
The invasion would have been over already... they would have revealed that they are destructive aliens and then go on to accidentally tell us their weakness and how we should destroy them.
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when does it air??
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Anyone else think of "True Blood" everytime they read or think "V"? This show looks cool... but True Blood was pretty damn good and hopefully will come back w/ a kickass season 2!
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They're always going to resemeble something we've seen before. Human imagination is limited to what it knows. If it is inconceivable than its not possible for us to conjure it up. So they will always look like humans, lizards, insects, and in one case weird looking elephants(Footfall, check it out). Making them humanoid lizards makes it possible for them to be played by people which is more dramatically compelling especially when you're looking at a limited budget. I would put that detail into the plot, citing genetic compatability as a motive for invasion. Breeding, food source, whatever. It would certainly explain why kid and blonde are flirting. They must be an open minded species because I wouldn't think we'd be any more appealing to them as giant lizards would be to us.
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No, I don't deny that President CLINTON signed the IRAQI LIBERATION ACT in 1998 that called for military force to remove Saddam Hussein and liberate Iraq. We were "occupiers" only for a short time...until a government could be elected by the people. Now, we are just peacekeepers....just like we are in South Korea, Japan, Germany and other nations following a war.
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Good point about the purpose of the Rio imagery from Brazil. I am beginning to think that this will be a great show!
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just fuck away from the world, and leave us be!!!
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'Why don't you have a seat over there?'
Alien Leader: I'd rather not
'Why don't you have a seat over there?'
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Every team needs a coffee boy! Seriously though, what is your point supposed to be? I was correcting the idiotic comment above that no one makes movies or books about dystopian left-wing societies. I think I rather handily proved that comment to be COMPLETE AND UTTER BULLSHIT. Your response adds exactly WHAT to that discussion?
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I remember watching this show when I was a kid and I thought it was so cool when they revealed that the visitors were actually lizard people in human suits. You never saw any of that in the previews for the show. I remember they used a fake advertising campaign to lull viewers into believing that the show was going to different than what it turned out to be so when they sprung the surprise it was even better. They blew the surprise for the reboot in the trailer for crying out loud! I swear nobody knows how to make a good trailer anymore. They show all of the good stuff and leave you to watch the boring crappy parts for 2 or more hours. It looks cool, but they totally went about it wrong from an advertising standpoint. It's too bad Hitchcock ain't still around. He knew how to keep a secret 'til the movie was actually released!
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Wow,
I feeling...a little..ummm..underwhelmed by THAT trailer! Holy Crap!
I was hoping for a major reboot of a classic early 80-ies sci-fi series ala Battlestar Galactica
But after seeing what's been done? I ain't likin' what I see so far...and I sould be surprised if ABC cancels this show by mid-season
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Because, as drewlicious said, we imagine what we know. But also, they are lizard people because there is an ACTUAL honest-to-god conspiracy theory that a race of lizard men- be they from outer space or a separately evolved species here on earth- exists, wears human suits, and plans to take over the world. And people believe it. I'm not kidding.
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God there's gotta be a better way to type out that name... Anyway, good point about Iraq.
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I think he's talking about David Icke and anyone who actually believes him. Look him up. Either he's out of his freakin' mind or a subversive antisemite. When will people learn that we have to an open and tolerant people in order to be truly civil? Not like those damn gypsies.
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and the vagina is u apparently..cuz u sound like a huge one with that paragraph.
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even if it turned green and scaly.
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May 21, 2009 10:05:53 PM CDT
And if she can unhinge her jaw and swallow whole animals...
by anal inflictor
well, you can see where I'm going with that one.
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DANG YOU DAMON
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All those motherfucking mile-wide ships hovering over our cities are gonna be taken out by a computer virus uploaded from a laptop and...Oh wait. What show is this again?
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Because I'm betting lizard or not, every guy here is thinking how much they'd love to tap Morena's lizard ass.
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V is for Visitors (or Victory)
EMT is for Elizabeth Mitchell's Tits.
I vote they rename the series.
"Previous, on Elizabeth Mitchell's Tits..."
Has a nice ring to it, don't you think, folks? -
Hey! To equate Joe Biden with slimy reptiles is an offense to slimy reptiles everywhere!
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I think they'll pull off some other wacky twist besides the lizard thing. Honestly though why the fuck wouldn't lizard-faced aliens wear human costumes? If they show up all lizardy, your dumbass is going to launch a nuke at their ship, but if they show up all Morenatastic, you'll offer to tonguefuck asses all night long. Seems like a pretty easy decision: nuclear assault or butthole pleasures, hmmmm?
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they get their jollies picking on lowly species. Simple explanation/fix.The twist should be, however, that Earthlings are the actual assholes, and the Visitors really were just trying to help the belligerent, poorly evolved naked apes.
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Perhaps it'll be like that Looney Tunes Wolf and Sheepdog series of shorts -- there is yet another type of alien under the lizard skin?
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Yeah, Morena was the hottest thing in the world on Firefly, but she looks TERRIBLE with short hair. Not hot. Not cute. Yeah, her face is still cute, she's a gorgeous girl, but that haircut is the worst.FACT: THERE IS NOT ONE GIRL IN THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT LOOKS BETTER WITH SHORT HAIR THAN LONG HAIR. Scientifically proven. Seriously. I have broken up with girls for getting a haircut. (and for wearing shawls, but that's another story.) SHORT HAIR SUCKS.Sorry for the rant. Thank you.
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Finally!
But now she's back! Noooooo... :-/
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Each season will of course end with a new underskin revelation with the final coming in the series finale: you tear the gorilla mask off and ITS YOU!!!
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it turns out we're all actually lizards!?!?!?! Did I totally blow your mind?
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Laura Vandervoort. In case anyone was wondering like myself. She is HOT! She played Kara on Smallville which is why I recognized her.
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comes in and looks through our eyes.
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But man... how could they have made the motherships looks so fucking shite? I mean the original series done these better.
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if I remember correc, the lizard people are supposed to be the Merovingians - but that whole myth has become so muddled throughout the years that a Merovingian can be anything from a Merman (as in Mermaid) - which is more FISH than LIZARD - to the maternal/paternal (depending on who you ask) bloodline of the descendants of the one and only mythical Jesus Christ (a la Da Vinci Code) - the Merovingian Kings...
anyway, somebody above said it as a joke (I'm pretty sure, unless my sarcasm-detector is off) but they COULD go the Space:Above and Beyond route in terms of the reason for them being all Earth-centric and maybe even sharing DNA with every other lifeform on the planet - and the big reveal would be THEY ARE ORIGINALLY FROM EARTH and blasted off into space long before the first ape even thought about climbing a tree...
AND THEY WANT THEIR PLANET BACK
I always thought that was the absolute best part of that show
also, I really really didn't want to get all political but FUCK! calling the occupation of Iraq a friggin "peacekeeping force" is so fucking full of shit! that's like calling the Korean War a goddamn "police action" - the country is STILL divided today - more than 50 years later!
peacekeeping force?? what a joke! know your history or fucking well repeat it! as the East Germans used to say:
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and the only cure is more Marc Singer
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If the Alien Motherships are over the major cities of the world, they should not be over Rio. Rio is not a capital of anything, nor has any particular political or economic power of note. Rio is not even the largest city of South America. If the aliens were serious, they would send their South American mothership to Sao Paulo, the largest city in the continent, and the one with real influence and power. But of course, like all gringos they prefer to go to the beach and see Carnaval. Smart lizards :)
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Natalie Portman sure looked pretty hot when she had short hair... But then, she looked pretty freaking hot with her long, curly/wavy hair at the end of Closer.... tough call.
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That Hispanic guy that ate that onion right before the road block.
He also took quite a beating and didn't give the lizards any info.
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Hows that for short hair? She looked pretty damn good to me. I'll bet Mary Elizabeth Winstead looks hot with her hair cut short for Scott Pilgrim.
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There's several. The one you mentioned got a lot of traction when the Matrix movie came out (featuring a character called the Merovingian) and of course when the Da Vinci code came out.
One of the other main variations is propagated by the English nutbar David Icke. In his version, the Lizards are shape-shifting aliens from another dimension / star system (he's not even consistent in his own delusions) and they've been running the world for the last 6000 years. They drink human blood, and have complex breeding lines to maintain their shape-shifting abilities. Famous shape-shifting blood drinking lizards include (according to Icke) George Bush, the Queen of England, and Kris Kristofferson. (No, seriously, you couldn't make this shit up if you tried.)
It goes without saying of course, that while some people can and do make a lot of money pandering to the insane in a cynical way, Icke is actually delusional enough to believe what he spouts. He's batshit crazy, but won't listen any time people try to tell him this. -
How is sweet tarnation would you LIKE them to show giant alien ships entering our atmo? There's really only one way to do it, low and slow. Don't be a nitpicky witwicky.
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Why are almost all the alien humanoids "White"? Even on earth "Whites" represent a small percentage of the population.
V would be interesting if the aliens looked more distinctive than your average White guy (i.e. not just having spots on their heads).
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More similar to the Nazis (wanting to conquer the world) than the original. Also more plausible. Lugging food (bodies) and water across the galaxy is a project that could not be energy efficent.. though the original Visitors also wanted to use humanity as slaves which makes some sense. In the new one, a resistance fighter says the Visitors' goal is the extermination of the human race. They're obviously compatible with our environment, and habitable planets could be rare in the galaxy. While it shouldn't be THAT hard to kill everyone without nuclear counterstrikes decimating the environment, it's plausible they'd want to use a lightish touch so we don't create a wasteland in our death throes.
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You hit the nail on the head. I thought the same thing. I wonder if that's where the original series creator got the idea?
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One of Diana's offiers was black if memory serves me right. The spots on their skin would look too much like "Alien Nation". The distinct feature of the aliens is there voice. In the original series, it was multi-harmonic. I read somewhere that they were planning on doing the same thing for this series.
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Portman looked HOT with her short hair...http://tinyurl.com/ofvzjdHmm, now that I think about it, slap that wig back on her and put her in that UFO movie they just announced!
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The pirate guy dies in the first episode. You know he was the best thing about Dollhouse, came in and saved it from going a whole season without having a single good episode.
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Thinks that Portman looks like a five year old boy? While I know that is probably a fantasy for a lot of you out there, not me sir.
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Where the girls are hot and the drinks are cold. And still full of alcohol, I hope.
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...Will be Michael Ironside's cock to your ocular cavities!
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on iTunes for the first time as an adult. What a hell of a show, I can't believe how well it holds up. Lame FX but great acting and writing, if you have those two the effects can suffer and not take you out of the story.
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...no Blu-Blockers?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOurns. -
ended all those "constitution shredding" Bush policies like wire-tapping, email intercepting, rendition, military tribunals, the Patriot Act, Guantanamo Bay, etc.
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At least there are more Democrats complaining about Obama's constitution shredding policies, than there were Republicans who criticised their moron in chief.
That shit is wrong, regardless of which party does it. But so far the Democratic voters seem to be the majority in thinking that, and trying to hold their elected leaders to account. -
...with a stadium jumbotron on the bottom? Ooooh scary!
They should have just ripped off Independence Day since they ripped off original V in the first place. -
...as long as you keep in mind that McCain would have been far, far worse. That being said Obama is in the hot seat now. The man should expect a little heat. Plus, this is ain't it hate news. If you want to bash something or someone for little to no reason this is the place. Harry himself got on the bandwagon with the TS review...
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Do you think Hepburn looked like a 5 year old boy? That's who Portman reminds me of. Looks to me like you got 5yo boys on the brain. As long as that's aversion paranoia then that's OK too... Kinda...
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This may have already been mentioned, but just thinking....In the original "V", Faye Grant played Juliet Parish. Elizabeth Mitchell, who is in the new version, played Juliet on "Lost". Coincidence..... or CONSPIRACY!? Kidding, but kind of interesting!
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Yes, Lisa.
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...you can still post on this subject like a week later and it's still on the main page.
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May 26, 2009 5:56:50 PM CDT
They're gonna take our athletes to the Space Olympics!
by mrmysteryguest
Shout out to Andy Samberg! "You're a winner!"
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The story was anti-Leftist/anti-communism. The aliens used propaganda the same way Hitler did to make himself a savior to his people and in the same way Obama currently has used it to get himself elected by outspending Johm Mcain 30:1 in campaign ads that don't explain what change he really intended to do for the country.
Ultimately without the original cast intertwined somehow with this movie, I just can't figure myself enjoying it.. -
"Though why doesn't anyone ever explore in a movie or book leftist extremism?"So, you don't read much?"I mean, seriously, extremism of any form is dangerous and leads to only one outcome- total rule by a few"So anarchism, say, leads to rule by a few? How's that work?
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