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Harry releases the review of the flaming turd he's clenched for 2 days: TERMINATOR SALVATION!

(Given every paper/site online has broken embargo. Here ya go)

It is a very rare thing for a film to shit squarely on my open and unexpecting eyes to such a degree that absolute hatred and loathing festers out of my every pore… but McG managed to do it with TERMINATOR SALVATION. This is odd. I’ve been wildly excited about this movie throughout production. I love the trailers, tv spots and the special internet trailer thing that wasn’t a clip like it said it was. I’ve been circling buying many of the toys – I’ve been thinking of picking up a couple of the SIDESHOW TOYS things they’ve been advertising on my site. I was so excited I even sent my wife into a 7-11 to get me a Slurpee cup for the TERMINATOR SALVATION movie. But today, I began to get a tad nervous about seeing the film. I dug out my TERMINATOR Blu-Ray, my foreign T2 HD DVD and I thought about watching the last 15 minutes or so of Mostow’s. I put fresh batteries in my Stan Winston/ Terminator head that McG gave me at Butt-Numb-A-Thon… and I was going to tune my brain into the fevered state necessary for a new TERMINATOR film. But as I held that TERMINATOR Blu-Ray… I sat it down and I didn’t put it in. I thought. You know, maybe that would be stacking the deck against McG. This is a beginning of a new series. I should just go in and let it play for me. Yoko called me from work about 30 minutes before she got off and I was already annoyingly excited about the movie, demanding that she come home immediately so we could get to the theater. I wanted to be at the theater. I wanted to see the line of anxious fans. I wanted the excitement to envelope me. I feed on that kind of psychic geek energy. This is big summer movie energy. But it was more than that. I was 12 when THE TERMINATOR came out and thank God, my parents were the kind of awesome people that let me watch it. Now – that movie is all kinds of awesome greatness – but the thing that captured my imagination were those glimpses of the future mythology. The resistance. Purple lasers shooting & blowing the fuck out of robots. In a fearful world where anyone looking human could suddenly whip out a gun and start killing everyone. It scared the fuck out of me, but it fascinated me. When TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY came out – I had purposefully stayed ignorant of everything about the film. I knew nothing. I was obsessive about seeing it – and I remember the giant ass line I stood in for the film. And while Robert Patrick was amazing with the help of ILM – I was left amazed by the brief glimpses of the future – that lone shot of a scarred John Connor with the binoculars. That reinforced the dream of John Connor and the Future War. I’ve been dreaming and chatting about the “Future” for a long time. With Mostow’s TERMINATOR 3 – I loved the idea of a machine sent back to just ensure the preservation of Skynet and if it could take out the future leader of the resistance or key associates of the resistance… all the better. But I didn’t like the Termanatrix, but I really loved it when Connor found himself in that bunker – with radio messages coming in and he suddenly found himself exactly where he was always meant to be. This was how it began for John Connor. In this mountain, these weapons, these tools… this is where he began to build the resistance. So, while I didn’t like bits of the film or the antagonist… I didn’t feel betrayed or a sense of loathing for the film. But it was not either of the first two films. This brings me to TERMINATOR SALVATION. An experience that I fucking loathed. First off – the screen at the Gateway was warped slightly at the top and along the side. So not the theater I wanted to see this “hopefully” awesome film at. But the screen didn’t cause me to hate the film. Nor was it the dispassionate audience that laughed mockingly at a few particularly awkward sub-ARMAGEDDON cutsie-poo scenes. No. TERMINATOR SALVATION is about accomplishing 3 things. 1st – John Connor has to meet his dad, Kyle Reese and hand him a photograph of his mommy. 2nd – John Connor must become the leader of the resistance. 3rd – John Connor must get his scar. What causes TERMINATOR SALVATION to fail in a way that has all the power of a yawn? Well, first off – nothing has any weight to it. Christian Bale looks like he could give a shit about all of this. Somewhere while he was holed up in his mountain with his wife he has suddenly developed a slight British accent. Which just doesn’t feel right. I never buy that he loves his wife Kate Connor that is played by Bryce Dallas Howard – whose sole job in the film is to really open her eyes wide. (and I like Bryce, it’s just she’s given not one solid scene.) But by incorporating a structure kinda like PEARL HARBOR and all big movies that leave their soul – to tell a lot of pieces of an overall epic story – this film doesn’t have a main character that we care about. And doesn't develop any of the characters we're left with. The star of the film is Sam Worthington. He plays a Death Row inmate that is written terribly. His scenes with Helena Bonham Carter are so mind numbingly awful, that you will not be able to not stare with train wreck in your thoughts (especially the latter scenes). She hasn’t been this bad since Kenneth Branagh’s FRANKENSTEIN. But wow, she’s excruciatingly awful here. Perhaps I should tell you the opening scene. We open with Sam’s Marcus sitting on his prison bed as a ridiculously awful looking Helena Bonham Carter comes out. She’s there to get Marcus to sign his body, post-execution, away. She tells him she can give him a second chance at life. Wouldn’t he want that? He tells her a sentence about how he killed his brother and some other men, he doesn’t deserve a second chance. She continues to go after his body and he agrees, but on the condition that she kiss him. Her lips are so sickly looking, and he kisses her by grabbing the back of her head and forcing her face into his suddenly. When he pulls away he says rather absurdly, “Now I know what Death tastes like!” – the line and the delivery were BAD! I’m talking the kind of bad that you repeat as a watermark of awfulness. It’s a shame that Nolan wasn’t the sole screenwriter here… but those guys from CATWOMAN and T3. Anyway, Sam Worthington. He’s the star of Cameron’s AVATAR and the upcoming CLASH OF THE TITANS. McG gets nothing out of him. He’s got sad eyes for the entire film. Which fits his morose Death Row Inmate, who wakes up naked in mud in the wasteland of the apocalypse. I can see a performance in him, he’s got a great face and body for film – but McG really seems to have asked for nothing out of him. But he certainly doesn’t come out of this as a star. His Marcus does come across a real performance though. Anton Yelchin’s the real deal folks. His CHARLIE BARTLETT was great. His Chekov was spot on in JJ’s STAR TREK, but his Kyle Reese. Man, I just wanted to spend time with him. He’s perfect. He’s playing Kyle as a young man trying to find a way to become a member of the resistance, but he can’t get his radio to even work. When Worthington’s Marcus meets Yelchin’s Kyle – things seem to pick up ever so slightly, but then we get introduced to one of the many utterly worthless characters in this film. Kyle’s sidekick is this little girl with a perm and a beret – that says nothing, but seemingly is always on hand with the right prop at the right moment. She’s oh so adorably worthless in the film. When I first saw her, I thought – “Oh wow, this is going to be our Ferel Kid from the THE ROAD WARRIOR or Newt from ALIENS… a cute kid raised in the wake of Judgment Day – a mean little kid that kills robots. Nope. She’s just mute and delivers useful props in the film. These two characters get picked up and taken to SkyNet in San Francisco – probably because SkyNet needed the most powerful computers in the world… which are probably ILM’s computers. Heh. But no, they don’t do anything that fucking cute. Sigh. With Marcus no longer with a thoroughly interesting character like Yelchin’s Kyle Reese… he’s given the horrifying acting cohort of Moon Bloodgood as a downed Resistance pilot that goes into battle with Geisha makeup, even though she’s half Korean and not Japanese. If you hated “Animal Crackers” – wait till you see her cuddle scene. FUCKING AWFUL. Shortly after this – we have Marcus’ machine reality blown – and he now has to escape the resistance in order to save Kyle Reese. His scenes with Christian Bale are dreadful. First off, there’s zero smartass or fun in this John Connor. Having been helped by one Terminator – well it doesn’t seem to have given him much insight into anything. And you can tell that Bale doesn’t give two shits about the first two films, or anyone that has done anything with the character before. Or how the character was described. He’s got his own take on the material and it is BORING, UNINVOLVING, and without a single iconic moment. His performance is FLAT, and this is an actor I love on film, but not this time. Also in this travesty is COMMON playing BARNES. Apparently his brother died, he hates the machines. End of character. There’s also Michael Ironside as the leader of the resistance known as General Ashdown. He’s really got nothing to work with other than taking a bit of the piss out of the prophesized Savior John Connor. Whom he doesn’t believe in. By the time Marcus Wright is infiltrating SKYNET helping John Connor to rescue Kyle Reese before the Resistance blows it all to hell… We’re in the midst of pointless action and nonsensical meaningless bullshit. Somehow in this film – it is fairly fucking common knowledge that Kyle Reese is John Connor’s daddy. Somehow- even fucking SKYNET knows this. Now you might think – AH – so the tension is – they have to rescue Kyle before they scan and recognize him – somehow. Well, except SkyNet finds him pretty quickly – but decides to use him as bait. Instead of killing him, which would have resulted in SkyNet winning. Ok – so then – through the most painfully excruciating sequence of the film – when Marcus is in Skynet and is trying to access the files on where Kyle Reese is… suddenly McG “nukes the fridge” by giving SkyNet a face. SkyNet is Helena Bonham Carter – the chemo lady that visits Marcus when he was on Death Row to get him to sign his body over to Cyberdyne. And through this really long and grotesque hand-holding monologue catching the painfully slow-witted Marcus up on what’s going on… well, it’s bad! Really bad! I’m talking, you want to look away from the screen cuz it’s fucking embarrassingly awful bad. And if that wasn’t bad enough – she has to show off crazy nonsensical morphing capabilities to show how her face could be anyone’s in Marcus’ memory. And it feels like the scene will never end. I’ll stop there and not go into the rest of the film – with the exception of Arnold’s scenes, which he had nothing to do with, other than a body cast that Stan Winston did on him years ago. Charlie Gibson and his team at ILM did a stunning job, for the 3 shots they deliver of 1984 Arnie. There’s no dialogue. But it is cool. Although pointless. It did cause a momentary buzz of excitement in the theater. And this is really the only thing besides a few scenes of Anton Yelchin’s Kyle Reese that are even vaguely compelling in the film. The action is dead because I don’t really care about the characters at all. I’m not emotionally on board for anyone other than Kyle. The effects work is top notch. But it really doesn’t matter. The idea that McG made a John Connor adult leader story that makes John seem worthless is insulting. No character in the film gets the time to be anything. Even Anton’s Kyle Reese – as wonderful as it is – it’s there and gone, back for a bit, but ordered off screen. John’s fight with the Terminator is badly edited. In one scene you’ll see the Arnie bot throw John across a room hiting something metal that just folds up from the impact… then the next time you see John, he’s like a SWAT member, coolly and calmly checking his corners for bad guys. Beaks asked me, “didn’t you love the Harvester sequence?” It has some nice action beats – but I didn’t care about it. It’s basically sub-ROAD WARRIOR stuff. And when I say that, I don’t mean slightly… One of the reason that amazing action sequence with the big semi worked is that George Miller built that character to be an icon, and he was. I think that’s what really kills me about the film. I wanted to come away from this wanting to believe in John Connor. He’s the future’s EL CID. A man of legend, and sure – we’re not quite at that part of the story yet, but hell – John Connor was a bit of a badass as a teenage bastard in TERMINATOR 2. Here – he’s just a man that screams his dialogue and says everything through a headache. As soon as you realize that Marcus is a MAN built into a robot – you can’t help but think of Peter Weller’s ROBOCOP – and how effortlessly human and heroic that character was. This film frustrates me, because this was supposed to be epic. This was supposed to be amazing. This was something I have wanted to see for a long goddamn time, and it’s a piece of shit that occasionally looks really good. I’m astonished that anyone that loves the first two films could possibly vaguely give this film a pass. Yes, the craftsmen and the visual effects artists did their job, but the film just left me furious at it. At a professional level it is superior to WOLVERINE, but in WOLVERINE’s series – well… frankly the X-MEN movies can’t even begin to compare to how awesome the first two TERMINATOR films are. And TERMINATOR 3, is much better than X3. But in a way – I feel about this film, the way I do with Ratner’s X3. In both cases, it feels like children playing with material of which they haven’t the slightest grasp of. They can’t conceive of what actually made the material great to begin with. To them, it’s the props, the hardware, the most rudimentary iconography. Not how the characters were LOVED by their creators. That the first TERMINATOR was a love story first and foremost. That the second TERMINATOR was a story about an overly protective mom and her son. This? This movie is about how he got that scar – and it isn’t Quint’s story about the tattoo removal, this is about the time a Terminator scratched my face. Seriously. In the same way that Ratner let me down with the Phoenix saga, McG has let me down with the untold epic story of John Connor. I know nothing I will say will stop you from seeing this film this weekend. The result will be a frustrating experience for many of you. Those of you that can divorce the myriad of conundrums regarding everything about this film. And really, how fucking stupid is Skynet? And is it self-aware of how stupid it is? At best, it is artificially average intelligence. At the very least, Skynet is obviously PC based. I hate the film. Pure and simple. I loathe it. I hated it so much I didn’t want to see my friend’s faces afterwards. I just wanted to go home and vent. I really really hate this film. I hate how much effort so many great artists and technicians put into a film that’s this fucking bad. Ultimately its just shit moving, like a sewer pipe. I hate that there isn’t a sustained scene or sequence that I love as much as the best moment from TERMINATOR 3. I hate that when I left the theater I felt empty and let down. That I felt like writing a review like this instead of fucking dry humping a great TERMINATOR movie. This feels like ALIEN RESURRECTION to me. Something that kills something wonderful for me. I’m no longer interested in Terminator. McG terminated my enthusiasm. I love the first two films. At least I’ll always have that. Fuck this movie.

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  • May 20, 2009, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Wow Harry.

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

  • May 20, 2009, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Nope.

    by cinemixtape.com

    It's really not that bad. It's passable, competent, decent, etc but nothing that will blow anyone's mind. Go see it as a matinee. But Worthington SUCKS. At least in McG's hands. Hopefully he fares better under Cameron's wing.

  • May 20, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Expecting Anything Else From McG?

    by Aquatarkusman

    That's like expecting some stimulating repartee about Russian silent film with a guy named "Ogre."

  • May 20, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    So, you didn't get a set visit?

    by the ageless stranger

    Predicatable really.....

  • May 20, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    WHATS A MATTER HARRY NO SET VISITS, CHECKS,OR KICK BACKS?

    by Broseph

    I'M STILL GOING TO SEE THIS LONG LIVE BALE.And I like T3

  • May 20, 2009, 9 a.m. CST

    This from the guy who loved "Van Helsing"...

    by googamooga

    Fuck you, Harry. You have exactly ZERO credibility as a movie critic. Your personal taste has been shown time and time again to be shit, and it's also common knowledge that you will suck a crappy movie's dick all day long if they give you enough trips to the set, memorabilia, etc.

  • Terminator: Salvation is probably Oscar-worthy GENIUS.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    We knew all this months ago...

    by kwisatzhaderach

    the moment McG was hired. James Cameron IS the Terminator series.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    What's wrong with Van Helsing ?

    by jackshephard

    Just Kidding....

  • May 20, 2009, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Fuckin' hell, Harry!

    by BiggusDickus

    Welcome back, my man!

  • May 20, 2009, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Opposite Day Logic Doesn't Work With Harry

    by Aquatarkusman

    Because he never hates anything; therefore something must be really, really amiss with this one or it took a giant dump on a classic film's heritage.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:02 a.m. CST

    DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNN

    by SunTzu77

    Turdinator!

  • May 20, 2009, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Harry's film reviews...

    by dlouder

    Aren't worth my morning shits. Seriously, the guy liked Twilight! Any film that gives Harry promo items, a tag line, a tour, a used kleenex, he loves. If he has to see a film like the rest of use, he shits on it. Please refer to his drooling over the 'New Moon poster' from yesterday...

  • May 20, 2009, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Can't trust Harry's reviews anymore

    by diehard045

    It's not that I KNOW Terminator: Salvation is great or anything, it's just that Harry has seen fit to give some bad films blazingly positive reviews - he cried at last year's Indiana Jones, and he loved Stallone's laugh-a-thon, Rambo, and in fact, I believe that he gave Fired Up an incredibly positive review.....he's been doing this for the past couple years, and I wonder how and why he has suddenly pooped on McG's new film. I cannot be all that bad.....especially when a lot of reviews (though most are mixed) have generally ben positive. And there are other films, too, that harry has saw fit to like, and I just don't see it, given the tastes he has spent the past twelve years defining on this site. Sorry, Harry. Sorry for you terrible viewing experience, but something just seems off...and yea, I liked Star Trek, but come on, the shit the slight. Fun. But slight.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Harry...

    by Johnny T Williams

    I haven't read your review yet. But if you really didn't like the movie all I can say this: You liked Twilight. If you liked that piece of shit, of couuurse you won't like Terminator. I will never trust any of your reviews ever again.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Get over it Harry

    by Shatoichi

    Still gonna see it!

  • May 20, 2009, 9:07 a.m. CST

    OH MY...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...that was rough. Interesting read, Harry.<P>Talkback is going to be intense on this one, too. I expect that we'll hear much woe and wailing from the Balebackers...

  • May 20, 2009, 9:07 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    "John Connor was a bit of a badass as a teenage bastard in TERMINATOR 2. Here – he’s just a man that screams his dialogue"<p> No Harry. He's not 'just a man'. He is Bale. And when he screams in your face it is like the light of a thousand suns. Praise him.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST

    This from the guy who loved "Van Helsing"...

    by Broseph

    Need I Say More

  • May 20, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Yes, that was one angry review.

    by DerLanghaarige

    Worth the waiting since it was announced yesterday :D

  • May 20, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Gaius, see my woe above.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST

    At last Harry knows what it felt like to...

    by hadders

    watch The Phantom Menace all those years ago.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:09 a.m. CST

    cry baby

    by IndyAbbey Jones

    harry, you get so pissy pants about movies, and we all know the reason you either love or hate a movie is because of whatgoes on behind the scenes...let me guess they didn't give you a free bale standee so now you hate the film, your opinion is worthless and the internet community is on to you

  • May 20, 2009, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Looks like we're in for...

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    a god awful summer

  • May 20, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    And how was the lighting?

    by DerLanghaarige

    Was it professional?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Where In The World Is DannyGlovers DickBlood???

    by Broseph

    i still cant think of bale anymore with out thinking of his bale fisting reference in empire of the sun

  • May 20, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    So... it's essentially "Transformers"?

    by panicdawg

    ...great effects with zero likable characters and terrible dialogue?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Harry IS correct in one respect.

    by cinemixtape.com

    He seems to admit that most of it isn't totally awful (which is true), but hates it for its mediocrity. My biggest complaint is that there aren't any great moments in the film, and most of it falls flat. But there was nothing cringe-worthy, IMO, other than the TERRIBLE CGI Arnold. I have no idea how he thought THAT looked good but thought the rest of the film was shit. Yes, Bale is boring and the look of the film is overblown, but Yelchin is great, most of the special effects are great, and the pacing is relatively tight. Harry seems to hate it just because it wasn't what HE specifically wanted. The film plays it safe, but it's not a bad film. Just a bit... soft.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Cobra--Kai

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Your woe is noted, sir. I do not envy your pain.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST

    James Cameron's Terminator

    by TurdontheRun

    is what they should rename any future releases of T1 and T2, so the masses don't confuse this tripe with the genuine article. Did any of you T4 supporters (you know who you are) REALLY think this dung could compete with Cameron's movies?!! Cameron is on a whole different planet to McGimp.<P>Terminator died in 91. Maybe one day , just maybe, Cameron will come back to this series and retcon all this crap out of existence, and give us the REAL Terminator 3...

  • May 20, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST

    I am so disappointed

    by joedubass

    I was thinking today about McG and how I should give him a chance... I knew the righters history for rubbish movies. I was genuinely excited about this film. What a great block buster season, first Star Trek now this... gutted Am very much looking forward to MOON

  • May 20, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST

    This Reveiws Is Fuckinggg Dissstracting

    by Broseph

  • May 20, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST

    It's strange that despite Harry even mentions in this review...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...that McG came to his birthday party and gave him a unique present, people are accusing him of being angry for not getting any presents.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    set visit....

    by HEADGEEK

    Actually - AICN did get a set visit. Interviews with cast. McG came to my birthday and gave me a terminator head from the film. McG calls me on my phone from time to time. No - he kissed my ass proper, but when it came time for me to give him my blowjob, his dick had shit all over it and I wouldn't go there.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Gaius, when it comes to Bale pain is so close to pleasure.<p> For some the idea of a character that screams his dialogue is scary. For me it is sacred.<p> I will cherish every scream as if our Lord were yelling in mine own face.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Whoops!

    by Pompoulus

    Once again a gorgeous NIN trailer decieves.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Harry, so McG took his dick over to Massa for a good cleaning?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST

    It's "Couldn't care less"

    by Lucidmind

    Say it with me now, it's not that hard. Its "Couldn't care less"!!!!! If you could care less, it means you could actually care less!!! Damn it.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST

    He said "Nukes the Fridge"

    by yodalovesyou

    Review rendered invalid. So sad. I saved many of Harry's reviews into word files as he used to put a smile on my face with his, not childlike, but wonderfully excited reviews of movies. Now he's joined the hateful nerd brigade.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Animal crackers...

    by SunTzu77

    " If you hated “Animal Crackers” – wait till you see her cuddle scene. FUCKING AWFUL." <p> I fucking hated that animal cracker scene in "Armageddon."

  • May 20, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Wife! Get thee to a 7-11

    by Righteous Brother

    so that I may sup a slurpee from a Terminator Salvation Cup!

  • May 20, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST

    TWILIGHT was the far better PG13 Genre Raping

    by HEADGEEK

    btw.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Don´t be angry, there´s a Michael Gay movie waiting for you

    by CuervoJones

  • That made me lol.i just hope the best thing to come out of this movie isn't Bale's Now Legendary Rant

  • May 20, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Cobra Kai

    by HEADGEEK

    Massawyrm eats shit up for breakfast

  • May 20, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    "I'm no longer interested in Terminator"..such BS..

    by couP

    You'll come crawling back when The Coen Brothers are on board for the next one!

  • May 20, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    Problem with TS I think

    by MorganLeafy

    Terminator was always a road movie. That’s its basic concept. If you take that away, you would have to have a pretty good director to make something decent out of it. So what have we learnt Hollywood, yet again? Make some fracking original stuff instead of milking everything to death!

  • May 20, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS is far better

    by HEADGEEK

    and I did not like that film either.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Why are you so foul, Harry?

    by Darkartist

    It's all about dick with this guy. I don't want to imagine any prick but my own and I am far from a prude. For shits and giggles try leaning your hyperbole toward a less repulsive route every now and then

  • May 20, 2009, 9:18 a.m. CST

    That's How I Felt After Transformers

    by RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    It's just "shit that moves" That literally sums it up perfectly. My biggest complaint about Transformers being so incredibly shitty is also echoed in your review for this, about all the incredible artists and visual effects people and all the money and talent and opportunity they had to make something great, and isntead they made something completely fucking worthless. That makes me more angry than if it was just a bad movie. It's the potential they consistently waste that makes you hate it even more. I understand that sentiment completely.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Ohhh, gooooood for you.

    by Slippy

    Fuck Bale, fuck McG, and fuck this piece of shit right in its ear. You can't lose both Arnold and Cameron and expect this franchise to survive.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    I have issues with Christian Bale...

    by girlfmkitty

    The trailer didn't move me. I ain't going. The review makes me feel better about my decision. Then again, I love Hugh Jackman and loathed "Van Helsing." Goes to show how tastes are like buttholes - everybody has one.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Broseph, cheers bro. On the subject of DGDB I believe he is working 'professionally' right now without distractions. All will be revealed in time no doubt.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    ILM is SkyNet???

    by maliswan

    Fuck. Makes sense I suppose, with the "Governor" and all. Harry...Thank you for the warning!

  • May 20, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Harry WTF are you doing drinking Slurpee's?

    by quantize

    for fucks sake...is your ass out of that wheelchair yet?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Oh dear...

    by yodalovesyou

    And now he's comparing a movie to sexual assault. What a pathetic little child. Someone ought to stick their dick down your throat and fuck-start your head, twattybollocks.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    You didn't like Transformers?! WHAT WHAT WHAT?!

    by couP

    can't wait for the 2nd one.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    ALIEN RESURRECTION KICKS ASS!

    by HoboCode

    Fuck the haters.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Fuck These People, Harry

    by RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    I get it, man. These people would shit on your review no matter which way it leaned. It's what they do.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    The rant will outlast the film.

    by vic twenty

    It is literally one chase scene after another. Minimalist, empty, whatever. This is a disposable movie about the Terminator future war. Harry got that right - this should have been EPIC. I simply is not. A piece of fluff about the near fall of humanity.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    btw i hope this movie is Professional

    by quantize

    someone probably already said it, but it needs to be screamed repeatedly

  • May 20, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Edward Furlong SUCKED in T2

    by TheLastCleric

    Conner in T2 is an annoying punk kid played by a novice actor who delivers his lines very unevenly. This review comes off as predictable, especially with all of the nostalgia bullshit preceding the actual review. This franchise is obviously going in a new direction and while I can't personally speak for the quality of that direction until I've seen the film, most of Harry's complaints seem rooted in his affinity for the past films, neither of which I think is the masterpiece he claims. Truth be told, the clips and trailers I’ve seen make this look like a hardcore sci-fi flick, something quite frankly Harry doesn’t seem to much like. Even assuming this film isn’t a slam dunk, this review comes off as the worst type of negative, over-the-top hyperbole written by a man who has endorsed such excrement as Daredevil and Godzilla. I guess I’ll know soon enough.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Alien Res sucks dick Hobo

    by RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    Sorry, but that movie is fucking worthless also. In what way does that expand or further any aspect of the Alien storyline? If a film is unnecessary in every way, it sucks.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Worse than Terminator 3?

    by offscauta

    That's pretty fucking bad, then. Terminator 3 was awful.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST

    And to the Harry haters...

    by vic twenty

    bashing him for "no kickbacks" or whatever. Go see the film and be man enough to tell him how much he got right in that review. I did not loathe this like Harry did, but it was a big disappointment.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST

    Anybody else see Moriarty's interview with McG?

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    It's strangely hysterical. I'll give McG this much, he is one fired-up sonofabitch. Their final exchange is hilarious.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST

    "He plays a Death Row inmate..."

    by BobWalnut

    "...He plays a Death Row inmate that is written terribly." - funniest line I've read in a while.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Yea...how WAS the lighting?

    by RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    Now that's the real question.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Harry don't sit on the fence.....

    by Righteous Brother

    what did you REALLY think of the film? Seriously, thanks for lowering my expectations, I'm still going to give it a go.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Harry, I remember your original TOMB RAIDER review when you concluded that it sucked but perhaps a sequel could improve matters.<p> TS has obviously been set-up as a trilogy - any comment on the potential for the next two films?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Oh, how the pendulum swings

    by Shut the Fuck up Donny

    It was obvious, really. Last year's amazing line-up of films could only lead to a follow-up year of shit. I just hope "Up" gives us something to cheer about this Summer.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    i knew it

    by tonethestone

    will wait for Inglorious Basterds, a friend of mine saw this couple of nights ago and said it was abysmul, glad IB is getting great reviews.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Harry said NUKE THE FRIDGE because he works for that website!

    by CreepyThinMan800

    Look www.nukethefridge.com

  • May 20, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Harry said NUKE THE FRIDGE because he works for that website!

    by CreepyThinMan800

    Look www.nukethefridge.com

  • May 20, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Harry said NUKE THE FRIDGE because he works for that website!

    by CreepyThinMan800

    Look www.nukethefridge.com

  • May 20, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Harry said NUKE THE FRIDGE because he works for that website!

    by CreepyThinMan800

    Look www.nukethefridge.com

  • May 20, 2009, 9:26 a.m. CST

    This movie should get an Oscar nomination for...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...best cinematography. Just to see how Christian Bale will react.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Harry's most poorly-written review yet?

    by The Drude

    I'll judge the film for myself, but jesus that was a painful review to read. Harry may have a spell-checker but someone please buy him a grammar-checker for Christmas...

  • May 20, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    HARRY WARNED MCG TO MAKE THIS 'R'

    by raystevensonwarzone

    Remember, long time ago, MCG was almost CERTAIN it would be R, only the studio heads would think otherwise, right? Harry tried to tell them.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    BTW...

    by HEADGEEK

    The Action in the film was shot via SECOND UNIT, as McG wanted to concentrate on the important emoting and character building that is so evident throughout this travesty. At least according to a very good source.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    OMG, the first sign of the apocalypse!

    by DerLanghaarige

    The losers from nukethefridge made me seriously laugh with their posts in this talkback!

  • May 20, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    by HoboCode

    Oh fuck off. AR was a great story with great action and genuine humor. Two words: Ron Perlman. And it at least brought Ripley back to life in a cool new way, and it got the fucking xenomorphs to Earth to set up a potentially great mythology expanding film. Sadly the suits dropped the ball.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    nukethefridge.com chud & AICN are all a scam!

    by CreepyThinMan800

  • May 20, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    nukethefridge.com chud & AICN are all a scam!

    by CreepyThinMan800

  • May 20, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    If that is true Harry, that is just stunning.

    by vic twenty

    I guess that was time well spent. After all, the biggest laugh in the movie is whenever Common opens his mouth to "act". Imagine what he would have been like without McG's guiding hand.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS is far better.I call Bullshit

    by Broseph

    That is one of the most boring fucking movies i have ever seen.i feel asleep in the theater watching it and i am by no means that theater sleeping guy.i finaly watch a trailer for part 2 And just shook my head and laughed thinking about that south park michael bay parody.That's not a movies it's just stuff blowing up

  • May 20, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Now I'm even more depressed that TSCC was cancelled

    by SpyGuy

    Despite its restrictive TV budget, TERMINATOR: THE SARAH CONNOR CHRONICLES was entertaining and one of the better sci-fi series out there these days. I was hoping that SALVATION was going to be a nice consolation prize for losing TSCC, but it sure sounds like there's not much to be hopeful about now.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    if harry hated it

    by robamenta

    it must be great

  • May 20, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    The problem with Harry's reviews...

    by Monkey Butler

    And really, this isn't his problem but ours, is that he likes stupid shit for stupid reasons. So he can like Twilight or FF2 or Van Helsing because of some geeky genre loyalty, but you have to remember where he's coming from when you read his reviews. This isn't a normal film site, this isn't like looking up a newspaper site to get a professional film review; this is Harry's geeky, terribly written, off the cuff opinion on film. Sometimes that opinion can line up with the majority of proper criticism, but more often than not you're going to end up with the bizarre sexual metaphors of a guy who simply loves film. People give him shit for liking shit movies, but if you lived and breathed film every day of your life like Harry does, I'm sure you'd be able to find something likeable in the absolute dreck he raves about as well.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST

    I FUCKING LOVE ALIEN RESURRECTION!

    by quantize

    this might actually be ok!

  • May 20, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Eddie Furlong was the BEST John Connor.

    by TurdontheRun

    He out-acted that charisma-vacuum dullard Christian Bale, apparently, and also that utterly embarassing wet blanket who played Connor in T3, and who took the character a step back. Eddie, get off the drugs, and come back to acting, dude; you are a better actor than 'Lord' Bale!<p>Also, Alien Resurretion sucked hairy balls. Cameron and Scott must rectify that series as well.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:33 a.m. CST

    ok so the hybrid was horrible

    by quantize

    but i defy any twat on this site who DOESNT GET how brilliant putting the city of lost children dude on an Alien film didnt result in some unique and cool sci-fi

  • May 20, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Harry did love Cloverfield...theres still hope for T4

    by quantize

    that's all we can know..

  • May 20, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    BRITTISH ACCENT??? WTF IS THAT

    by scotsman75

    WHAT EXACTLY IS A BRITTISH ACCENT? SO IS HE SCOTTISH? IS HE WELSH? IS HE ENGLISH? THERES NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT.its like saying, he had a european accent,doesnt exactly fuckin narrow it down does it?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    quantize - that is it - it kind of is,"just ok".

    by vic twenty

    The friend I went with hated it as Harry does. It struck me as a movie that will probably make big bucks because shit blows up - a lot - but that misses most opportunities to be good/great. In all honesty, Ben Affleck could have been John Connor and it would have not made one bit of difference.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    his rant is exactly how i felt about star trek

    by animas

    pure hatred

  • May 20, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    I think Harry's still pissed about McSpaced

    by StovetopStuffin'

    We'll see though. Maybe he's right. Gonna see it tomorrow.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Don't sell yourself short Harry. I'm not gonna see it.

    by V'Shael

    And it's (in part) because of your review. I mean, you liked Jar Jar and fucking Godzilla at some point. For you to tear into this means it's probably worse than I feared. And I didn't have much hope for it anyway.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    CHRISTIAN BALE IS WELSH INCASE U DIDNT KNOW HARRY

    by scotsman75

  • May 20, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    REALLY?

    by adolfwolfli

    I could never have guessed that the FOURTH installment of a franchise, put into production years too late with the sole motivation of making money, directed by a hack director with a stupid pretentious 3 letter name who only directed Charlies Angels films, is not GOOD? Whatever will I do? I mean the guy's name is "McG". Sort of like "McDonalds", no? The only directors that could have done this film justice are not interested in making a sequel to a sequel to a sequel.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Harry's reviews?

    by Titus05

    I started getting suspicious of Harry's reviews after he gushed about how the horror movie 'Hatchet' was the best horror movie in years...I saw that movie based solely on his review...it was probably the worst movie I ever saw in my life...I figured afterwards he was either getting paid or something else to give these excellent reviews...same goes with 'My Bloody Valentine 3D'

  • May 20, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Way to go Harry

    by PG_13_Fisting_Party

    "Ultimately its just shit moving, like a sewer pipe." Bah-zing!

  • May 20, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Going back to the moment where McG asked Bale...

    by knowthyself

    ..to give him a chance. Never again it seems. Never again. McG has no artistic soul to tell a story. He just wants to do action and be cool and he can't even do THAT right it seems.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    his dick had shit all over it and I wouldn't go there

    by robamenta

    wow....i am stunned by that quote

  • May 20, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    animas

    by quantize

    thats because you have no soul..not the star trek film that was entertainment. capital E pussy

  • May 20, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Van Helsing....

    by Mundungus

    Had Dracula, Frankenstein, and three fucking Werewolves. For thhat reason alone, it will always have a special place in my heart.<p> Yes the story was retarded, but it did manage to include

  • May 20, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    I love these types of reviews

    by film_chic

    They help me lower my expectations so very far that the pain from the terrible film (for which I've already bought tickets) doesn't hurt as much.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Dracula, Frankenstein, and three fucking Werewolves.

    by Mundungus

  • May 20, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    British Accents

    by yodalovesyou

    Cornish? Dorset? Bristol? Pompey? Brummie? Geordie? Cockney? Essex? East Anglian? Mancunian? Scouse? South Yorkshire? West Yorkshire? Home Counties? Oxford? South Wales? North Wales? Ulster? If Christian Bale does all of these in one movie, it would be fookin' ripper!

  • May 20, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Also, about Bale:

    by adolfwolfli

    Christian Bale NEEDS a good director of actors, if not, he's AWFUL. Like painfully bad on an almost Plan 9 level. Actually, he was awful in "Rescue Dawn", which is directed by Herzog, a great director of actors. So, truthfully, Christian Bale is mostly awful. When have you ever "connected" with any of the grumbly-voiced characters he's portrayed?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Harry's not alone.

    by SunTzu77

    Personally, it's a rental for me. I just wish someone like Chris Nolan, David Fincher, or Paul Greengrass had directed TS... with a script by J. Nolan or David Webb Peoples or hell, Alex Garland... someone better than the writers of Catwoman. <p> Roger Ebert slams T4 http://rogerebert.suntimes.com / --- 2 stars -- "I know with a certainty approaching dread that all of my questions will be explained to me in long detailed messages from "Terminator" experts. They also will charge me with not seeing the movie before I reviewed it. Believe me, I would have enjoyed traveling forward through time for two hours, starting just before I saw the movie. But in regard to the answers to my questions: You know what? I don't care." <p> Toronto Star slams T4 http://www.thestar.com/enterta inment - one and a half stars - "Terminator Salvation: It’s back, and it’s bad" <p> Globe and Mail slams T4 http://www.theglobeandmail.com /arts/ - two stars - "What its predecessors had, this sequel sorely lacks" <p> USA Today slams T4 http://www.usatoday.com/life/m ovies/reviews/2009-05-19-termi nator-salvation_N.htm -- "Bale is surprisingly one-dimensional as John Connor, the leader of the human Resistance movement whose destiny is linked to the future of mankind in this doomsday action franchise. He seems to be simply recycling his gravelly Dark Knight growl." <p> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/ article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/05/19/ DD7V17N5G0.DTL - "McG is a director with an above-average eye and an original instinct for camera placement. To his credit, he's not one of those lazy types who think they can generate excitement in an action sequence by shaking the camera or kicking it. But he has a major weakness as a filmmaker, and that weakness is all over "Terminator Salvation": His grand, elaborate visual sense is completely detached from his brain"..."Whoever thought in 2003 that we'd look back on "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines" as the good old days?"

  • May 20, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Monkey, on the flipside Harry also sometimes dislikes shit for stupid reasons.<p> Yesterday was a classic case in point where he had a problem with Pixars A BUG'S LIFE because, and I quote verbatim;<p> "the ants were not al ant colors"<p> Hopefully TS will be a similar story and at least a few of us may enjoy it.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    it begins

    by Six Demon Bag

    ding ding.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    SunTzu77, there are half-a-dozen positive reviews for TS up at Rotten Tomatoes too.<p> Why only post the negative ones? What's your agenda?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    When was the last time Bale "acted"?

    by knowthyself

    He's been doing the "I'm serious and stoic." schtick for quite a few films now. When was the last time he actually played a CHARACTER? American Psycho? Geesh.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    I doubt McG will be attending the next Birthday celebration.

    by jackshephard

  • May 20, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    best thing that came out of mcg's terminator

    by palewook

    has to be the bale rant. that shit will live on the net for the next 10 years.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    Harry liked Cristal Skull and other horrible films

    by PAN´S MAN

    I think "Indy IV", "Fantastic Four 2","Twilight" are horrendous films that Harry loved. I'm sure that TIV is better than all of them.

  • This review makes me sad. I really wanted this to be good because there are no "blockbuster" action movies out this summer I have any interest in seeing. Oh, well. What's coming out next Summer?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    What happens when McG didn't plan to have Connor in the movie

    by D.Vader

    This. This is what happens when you have a director who isn't interested in the characters or the mythology. He's only interested in the action and effects. You get this shit. <p> Its common knowledge that John Connor was never a real part of the early scripts and that McG planned to have him become a terminator and kill everyone includng Kyle Reese. <p> Why? How does that serve the characters or reflect the story laid down in the first 3 films? It doesn't. It's just "kewl". Dammit McG, you're so fucking amateur. Like a damn 12 year old.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Are you fucking nuts!

    by spiceybiscuit

    Dude, you loved Twilight and I quote "it's sooo cool to be in love" and you hate Terminator????? DID WE SEE THE SAME TWILIGHT MOVIE????

  • May 20, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Alien: Resurrection

    by DerLanghaarige

    Hated it when I saw it the first time, but then it grew on me and now it has a very special place in my heart. I agree that it is far away from the quality of the first two movies and feels more like a crazy ass big budget fan film, but holy shit, I enjoy the hell out of it!<br> I even go so far and would give Johner and Vriess (a.k.a. Perlman & Pinon) their own spin off!

  • May 20, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Unfortunate

    by cutest_of_borg

    Here's a thought - everyone go see Trek again this weekend and help it attain "Ironman" money. FUCK that hack McG.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    So Bale's rant was all for naught eh?

    by DoctorWho?

    It may be a fair guess that all of Bale's 'fire and brimstone' hissy fit was hurled at the 'light tweaker' due to the slow dawning reality that this film was wasn't clicking. <p> I'm also guessing this is not as bad as Harry says...but then again my hopes weren't nearly as high as his because 'no Cameron= no interest' in my book. T2 was the end of the line for me. I didn't have my head in the clouds over this one and would never plunk down the bread to see it. <p> And why does Bale 'blowing a gasket' give so many here such a hard on?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Are you fucking nuts!

    by spiceybiscuit

    Dude, you loved Twilight and I quote "it's sooo cool to be in love" and you hate Terminator????? DID WE SEE THE SAME TWILIGHT MOVIE???? The horrible baseball...the bad acting, Bella and her stupid heavy breathing??? Did you go in already hating it because Cameron wasn't atached to it???? Ugh, this site is my only hope for a good review....you just shit in my eyes...

  • May 20, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Harry's reviews

    by JohnnyLaBamba

    First off, a pre-release film review should not simply be a re-hash of the entire plot of the movie. Rather, kill about 75% of the words and tell us why you liked/hated it in broad strokes. For a while, I thought Harry simply had a hate-boner for Fox (following the Watchmen debacle, see his “Wolverine” review). While I'm glad he's finally criticizing movies rather than loving ever pile of crap he sees, there's an inherent flaw in his reviews. Harry likes movies based on his own experiences, rather than what the movie brings to the table. For instance, he loved "Fired Up" because he likes cheerleaders. He loved "Orange County" (yeah, I've a longtime reader) because he didn't get in to UT-Austin. That's like when people tell me I should love Steve Miller's "The Joker" because it reminds them of *their* high school days. Bottom line is this: Harry has every right to hate/love a movie. But when he's injecting himself into his reviews, it doesn't do readers any good.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST

    honestly now...

    by The Amazing G

    Harry you're a cool guy, I mean that, but how could this movie be any worse than Twilight?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Harry...

    by SunTzu77

    I think McG will be calling you today... once he reads the review, LOL.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:50 a.m. CST

    American Accent

    by Rebeck2

    New York? Texas? Tennessee? Georgia? Minnesota? Chicago? Boston? New Orleans? Southern California? Connecticut? Hawaii? --What exactly is your point, British dickheads?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    spiceybiscuit

    by DoctorWho?

    The question is: WHY did you go see Twilight in the first place?<p> My apologies in advance if you happen to be a 14 year old girl which would render my question moot...But what's Harry's excuse???

  • May 20, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    So I'm the only one that thinks Alien Resurrection...

    by knowthyself

    ..is an interesting evolution of the Ripley/Alien dynamic? Laugh at the White alien all you want, but at least they attempted to evolve this strange relationship Ripley has with her nemesis. I thought it was rather thought provoking. Especially with the Ripley clones and her killing her own baby at the end, never having had one of her own.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Finally...

    by offroadcamry

    Harry hates a movie! I was beginning to wonder if he just gave everything a pass.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Harry WTF are you doing drinking Slurpee's

    by Broseph

    Because...They're Delicious

  • May 20, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Bale is gonna trash all our lights...

    by The Amazing G

    the end is nigh...

  • May 20, 2009, 9:52 a.m. CST

    EXTRA, EXTRA! Harry Loves Basterds!

    by Luke_Cage

    Wanna bet he already wrote the review? Word

  • May 20, 2009, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Its crazy to think Harry hated this but loved so many other bad

    by knowthyself

    It boggles the mind. T4 must be good.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Hey, I kinda liked Alien Resurrection

    by David Cloverfield

    With the Sigourney clones and the pirates. That film had some memorable stuff in it.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    I stopped reading after your 'list'

    by ejcarter9

    This Film Must Accomplish The Following... What utter horseshit. There's no point in reading any of your future reviews. If you go into a film with a checklist and a pen then all you are is the QC guy at the plant with an unearned sense of self-importance. Do you truly love films anymore, or just use them to make everyone else think you're special?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Why did he SEND his wife for a slurpee?

    by knowthyself

    Couldn't get it yourself Harry? Already treating your wife like your mother eh? Tsk tsk tsk.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    scotsman75...

    by BiggusDickus

    What Americans mean by 'British' accent is the standard RADA-type London brogue. <p>Give them a Geordie, Brummie, Scouse or Cornish accent and they need subtitiles.<p>If it wasn't for Billy Connolly, they'd have no idea what you chaps were on about either...

  • May 20, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    To quote Dutch Schaefer: You-are-one-ugly-motherfucker,...

    by Luke_Cage

    ...Harry To be immature is da bomb! Word

  • May 20, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    'Hatchet' was the best horror movie in years

    by Broseph

    Anybody who claims that deserves a Fucking Punch In The Face.the return of old school horror MY ASS

  • May 20, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    knowthyself

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Resurrection gets a bum rap. As does Alien 3. Honestly Harry, you love Twilight and hate this? I dunno sir.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Alien Resurrection was still a great genre movie..

    by ev1ldead

    so what does Harry know? There is no chance in hell that Salvation is worse then some of the crap Harry liked better than chocolate covered pussy juice. The Teaser with Worthington realising he is a machine was better than anything in van Helsing, X3 or Cloverfield.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Actually scotsman75

    by The Dark Shite

    Bale says he's English. He says himself that he was just born in Wales on account of his dad being in the RAF or something. <p> He doesn't mind people calling him "Welsh Actor Christian Bale", because he thinks it "sounds poetic".

  • May 20, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    It's another universe.

    by 11dayempire

    So you're not going to see "1st – John Connor has to meet his dad, Kyle Reese and hand him a photograph of his mommy. 2nd – John Connor must become the leader of the resistance. 3rd – John Connor must get his scar." because those happened in the original future war that (didn't) happen in 1997.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    DerLanghaarige

    by SunTzu77

    hahah that would be funny.... best cinematography.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Fuck McG

    by Brody77

    He's a cockend and this proves it.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Fuck McG next time, give ME the endo skull !

    by theplant

    That piece of shit Knowles not only stinks, he ain't worth it.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Fair play Harry

    by proper

    "Well, except SkyNet finds him pretty quickly – but decides to use him as bait.Instead of killing him, which would have resulted in SkyNet winning." Blimey,that sounds annoying to watch and shows not very computer logic like on the part of Skynet ;>..

  • May 20, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    I've seen it...he's dead on.

    by TheContinentalOp

    Normally, Harry has to be taken with about two pounds of salt, but this time, he nailed it. The movie didn't anger me as much as it did him, but all of his points are 100% accurate.

  • May 20, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    lol...

    by SunTzu77

    Sounds like Charles Gibson (2nd Unit) should have directed the entire thing.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Nuke The Fridge

    by TheKGB01

    Harry now recognizes the threat...just a matter of time... bye bye harry..keep up the a-hem..good work.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    I saw TS a couple of nights ago...

    by DellsDontBounce

    ...after watching the first two Cameron films. Personally, I liked the movie. Yeah, the character development left a lot to be desired, but I did NOT go into the film expecting anything on the level of Cameron's vision. However, Cameron ain't doing Terminator movies anymore. I am assuming Harry never saw the Sarah Conner Chronicles, as I haven't read him railing against their series finale - John Conner suddenly appearing in the future as a teenager, and no one knows who he is. I agree, Bale didn't bring it in this film, Worthington's Wright wasn't nearly as tragic as he should have been, and Helen Bonham Carter as MasterControl was pretty stupid. I thought the action was pretty interesting and certainly expanded the idea that the war against Skynet was taking place in other places besides Los Angeles. And the Harvester sequence reminded me alot of War of the Worlds, right down to the sound effects of the machine. But this movie is certainly not an unmitigated disaster - it's a fairly entertaining actioner that blows up a few things real good.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Lame characterization=lame movie

    by DoctorWho?

    Axiomatic.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Earth, man. What a shithole.

    by HoboCode

    Nuff said.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Hey_Kobe_Tell_Me_How_My_Ass_Tastes

    by Monkey Butler

    Nice try, but I wasn't sucking Harry's cock at all. I thought all the references to his shit-poor writing skills and his love of terrible movies would have made that obvious. But I guess you're just fucking dumber than he is.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:02 a.m. CST

    The only thing worse than asshole Bale is..

    by banditmania

    ...Idiot McG.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:02 a.m. CST

    "Instead of killing him, which would have resulted in SkyNet win

    by DeathShrike

    What? You think John Connor would have faded out of existence like Marty McFly in Back to the Future? Stupid.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:02 a.m. CST

    You're not the only one

    by Star Hump

    Alien Resurrection was a blast. Script by Joss Whedon. I thought it was smart, action-packed, and funny. "Like you never fucked a robot!" Line of the decade.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Affleck as connor.. rolfmao

    by SunTzu77

    "In all honesty, Ben Affleck could have been John Connor and it would have not made one bit of difference." hahahhahahah :D

  • May 20, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    Ejcarter I think you're mistaken

    by D.Vader

    That checklist, I believe, is what Harry was saying the filmmakers used as a checkpoint list when approaching this film, obviously throwing real character relationships out the window.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:04 a.m. CST

    God bless you, Harry.

    by The Gospel According to Bastardface

    Tell it like it is. The 10 or so clips that were posted here last week scared off of this film. After STAR TREK, I'm not going to slum it anymore.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Slurpee's might be delicious...

    by quantize

    but drinking them us closer to putting a gun to your head if you're already morbidly obese AND in a wheelchair

  • May 20, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    You suck Harry

    by CB87

    You really do,

  • May 20, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST

    You want a post apocalyptic franchise?

    by mr.underwater

    Get fucking Mad Max 4 rolling. That's where it's at. This Terminator shit was played at T3

  • May 20, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST

    IGN Inglorius Basterds Review is up

    by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak

    http://tinyurl.com/oojxyk

  • May 20, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    brittish accent point is

    by scotsman75

    america is one country,britian isnt a country its a union of countrys,scotland england wales,so to say a british accent means fuck all.thats the point.BRITIAN DOES NOT MEAN ENGLISH.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    IGN Inglorius Basterds Review is up

    by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak

    http://tinyurl.com/oojxyk

  • May 20, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    IGN Inglorius Basterds Review is up

    by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak

    http://tinyurl.com/oojxyk

  • May 20, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Cobra...

    by SunTzu77

    Those are the reviews released today thus far.... I'm going down the list of the "top critics" in an attempt to locate their reviews. They've been negative... I can give you their e-mail if you feel it's unfair.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Is it me?

    by OBSD

    It feels like every Summer Blockbuster Action movie this year didn't have any money in their budget to write a decent script (yes, I'm including Star Trek in this. Even though I enjoyed it greatly. Kirk is marooned on Planet Coincidence that has a monster, then a bigger monster, then Spock Prime, who explains the whole plot to Kirk, then Scotty, who helps him beam back on the Enterprise.) Also, I am very worried about this movie because of Harry's review. One thing that's easy to do in a movie is to get Harry Knowles emotionally involved. He forgives a lot and often fills entire backstories in his head for the most cliched and flimsily written and acted characters if he's given the slightest reason to become emotionally involved in a film. I've seen it a million times. So the fact that T4 failed to emotionally involve Harry in any way does not bode well for this film to me.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Charlies Angels anyone?

    by Underoos Hero

    Did you really think that this McDonalds representative was going to do something good with serious material?

  • May 20, 2009, 10:10 a.m. CST

    It was never gonna be a masterpiece FFS..

    by The Dark Shite

    Mcfuckingimp directed it. What did you expect? <p> If it looks good & has good action it'll do. Because then it'll be no worse than T2, the most overrated film in the history of wanker directors.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Alert the Presses!!!!!!!!!

    by Khan_Noonien_Zing

    Harry posts a bad review. Is the apocalypse upon us?

  • May 20, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    those reviews

    by SunTzu77

    have yet to be posted to RT yet...the "top critics"

  • May 20, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Harry, respect!

    by zapano

    I'm with you on T1, T2 and even T3. Transformers was shit and Resurrection did kill the series. I actually enjoyed Twiligh as well. I'm defnitely not going to see this. <p> It's depressing how they've fucked up this opportunity. This was the moment when Terminator fans were finally going to see the future play out. <p> They spent millions of dollars, yet they couldn't get a competent director who could get hold of an engaging story with cool characters. Typical

  • May 20, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    Harry's been waiting since Day 1 to shit on T4

    by Gungan Slayer

    Come on guys, Harry's been dying since Day 1 of this production for this day...all so he could shit out this 'review' and bash McG and tell us " I TOLD YOU GUYS ! " Fucking pathetic. Harry hates T4, really? You guys know of the shitty, and I mean SHITTY movies that he likes, right? Yeah

  • May 20, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    We knew it would suck.

    by antonphd

    Bale did an interview this summer in which he retells a conversation with Aaron Eckhart in which Aaron asks how it was working on the Terminator film... the answer was basically... this review. And when he lost his shit on set... it seemed to me that he had a pretty good reason for being pissed... it wasn't the lights... the lights were the straw that broke the camels back. Oh well. I'll watch it for the pretty visuals. I guess I have to wait for Harry Potter for a decent summer film. Maybe Raimi's film will deliver.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Stop the presses...

    by DeafPoet

    A McG movie sucks. Who woulda thought?

  • May 20, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    OH AND BIGGUSDICKUSS

    by scotsman75

    THOSE PLACES U NAMED R ALL IN ENGLAND,SO THAT WOULD BE AN ENGLISH ACCENT U MEAN.SCOTLAND ENGLAND AND WALES R SEPERATE COUNTRYS INCASE U DONT KNOW.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    So wait a minute...

    by ChanceMinter

    You're bashing this film for not living up to the past movies standards... yet you truly loved Indy 4? A movie that literally butt fucked everything Indiana Jones stood for? Oh fuck off Harry. This film can't be anything near the unwatchable pile of shit that is The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Do you do any serious drugs? ... You must...

  • May 20, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    No offense, Harry...

    by Peter Franks

    But this review is coming from the man who loved The Matrix Reloaded. I'll take my chances with Terminator, thank you.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Whats wrong with Kenneth Branagh’s FRANKENSTEIN?

    by Series 7

    I remember that film being a lot of fun? I own it I should probably watch it again.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Inglourious Basterds Reviews

    by Rebeck2

    For those of us who read the script there's going to be a perverse pleasure watching all these critics bite into this particular turd sandwich...

  • May 20, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Forgot about your love for Indy 4

    by Peter Franks

    Seriously. That dreck was so fucking unwatchable and absolutely tarnished the Golden Ark that was Indiana Jones. Wow, Harry. Just wow.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Worse than Twighlight?

    by masteryoda007

    response: Fuck off asshole

  • May 20, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Rebeck2

    by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak

    I did not read script. Is it really that bad?

  • May 20, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    I usually agree with you Harry,

    by Azlam Orlandu

    even with unpopular opinion. This scares me.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    A "Nuked The Fridge" comment..You LOVED Crystal Skull!

    by BigTuna

    Remember?

  • May 20, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    *BIG FUCKING SIGH*

    by turketron_2

    Disheartening to hear from so many places that this movie isn't any good, I was looking forward to it. Sad thing is, I'll still probably plunk down my hard earned cash to see it regardless (which I did NOT do for Wolverine).<p> Fuck.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    You know, maybe we hype these movies TOO MUCH???

    by Mrhazard

    Nothing is going to ever match or top the movies we saw from our childhood. I'm not even expecting this to be as good as the first two movies. I just hope its better than T3...<p>I also wonder if this is better or worse than Sarah Connor Chronicles (cause that was a LOT better than I expected)...

  • May 20, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    scotsman75..

    by The Dark Shite

    Lay off the white lightning mate. <p> YOU DON'T HAVE TO TYPE LIKE THIS.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    It's also disheartening to know he positively reviewed Twinkligh

    by turketron_2

    and Kingdom of the Crystal Skullfuck. Whatever.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    I almost want to see it now

    by I am_NOTREAL

    I thought the previews looked like seriously dull & noisy shit, but now I want to get a good laugh at the ham-handed character moments that Harry describes. I was cracking up while reading this review. The emoting probably would have been better if that fuckin' DP hadn't been screwing with the lights so much. How can anyone take a director who calls himself "McG" seriously? Everything that needed to be said was said in the first two films, much like that other franchise with Cameron's fingerprints on it (although, not unlike Harry, I do admire T3 for going for the downbeat ending). And I love the TBers calling out Harry for other positive reviews. Sure, he likes movies I don't from time to time (Eagle Eye, what garbage), but why are you still reading?

  • May 20, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    British, Scottish, Irish..that shit is all the same to me

    by terry1978

    I'm from the Chicago area here in the states, and honestly...unless it's like real distinct, all ya'll sound alike.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    LITTLE LATE TO KILL THE MOVIE HARRY

    by chetedawg

    You really should have reviewed it earlier, maybe even killed it fromt he script like you did with his Superman. Honestly, what didnt he do for you(or to you) that Lucas, Wachowski, Bay, Cohens, Speilberg and even Cameron did? Did he say that Ratner's cum tasted like yours but sweeter and you got really mad and ate a horse?

  • May 20, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    ILL TYPE ANY WAY I WANT

    by scotsman75

    AND WHATS WRONG WITH WHITE LIGHTNING?

  • May 20, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST

    Sounds like a typical "part four" to me...

    by Ronald Raygun

    Indiana Jones 4, Die Hard 4, Aliens 4, Superman 4, Lethal Weapon 4, Batman 4. Part four usually adds up to "ENOUGH ALREADY!"

  • May 20, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    I simply cannot trust Terminator fans for a good review.

    by Cotton McKnight

    The things I like about the series, you all hate. The things I dislike about the series, you love. For example, I LOVED Terminator 2 when it came out- I was 16 years old. In the years since, however, I have realized how ridiculous the movie was, with it's corny acting and weak plot. The rest of you, however, still have the rose colored glasses on, and it's has the same impact it had on me when I was a teenager. Maybe it's the name "Cameron" that has everyone loyal to the movie. Maybe it's the wow special effects. And to be sure, the effects ARE great and Robert Patrick in particular excels. But I honestly think you are giving the movie more credit than it deserves.<br><br> Then T3 came around. I didn't even watch it during its initial run- I caught it at a dollar theater in late September. Even then, I missed the first 5 minutes. I wasn't expecting much at all. What I found out though was this was a very solid movie. Sure the acting was kind of dopey and there were certainly some cheesy scenes, but I can't really complain all that much because at the end of the day, it made me a fan of The Terminator franchise again. It tied up VERY obvious plot holes that T2 created, and it had the balls to do what Cameron didn't have the guts to do- give us judgment day. <br><br> Ltner than the special effects, T2 is absolutely forgettable. It's a cop out movie. Arnold had to be the good guy because he was a big star at that point and nobody would have liked it if he was the villain. Plus, we got a wishy washy happy ending. The only thing that happened was John Connor's toy robot errr father figure melted. Boo hoo. So yeah, I will take these reviews with a grain of salt.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    I've seen both TS and Twilight and the truth is...

    by vic twenty

    TS is much better than the vampy twatfest. I mean, let's be serious here, TS s a mostly empty can of coke, but it still tastes better than douchewater. To my palate anyway.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    WOW, good review Harry!

    by johnnyangelheart

    Written like a fanboy in love who just got his heart broken.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Think you'll hear from McG about this review?

    by DrunkyMcLush

    Please tell us if you do. I'd love to hear that idiots excuses.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    I'm Afraid I Won't Like It

    by kevinwillis.net

    I can't think of too many movies that Harry has actually seen and disliked that I have ended up liking. I've seen lots of stuff he's liked that I thought sucked, but . . . I take this is a bad sign. May or may not see it in the theater. I dunno.<br><bR> Star Trek rocked, even with its flaws, so I suppose I'm satisfied. At least there was one summer film that really did it for me.<br><br> And I have nothing against McG. I really liked the Charlie's Angels films, and We Are Marshall. I just take Harry's hyper-negative review as a bad sign.<br><br>Even the people saying Harry's reviews are worthless are talking about all the crappy movies Harry has liked--not the great movies he's dissed. Because, generally, if he doesn't like a movie, there are problems.<br><br> Of course, I liked Ratner's X3 pretty well, and Harry hated that, but, even then, I understand why Harry hated it. So, likely, at best, I might mildly enjoy Salvation, while understanding why Harry thought it was godawful. Which is not a good sign for another entry in the rapidly decaying Terminator franchise.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    TERRY GET YER EARS TESTED

    by scotsman75

    IGNORANT FUCKIN YANK

  • May 20, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    terry1978..

    by The Dark Shite

    I'm not sure why the guys above have got bees in their bonnets about it, but I have to tell you, all of those accents above are VERY ditinct from each other. <p> Where I'm from, you can go 5 miles & hear a completely different accent. 30 miles, I wouldn't even understand the locals.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Damn fine shame

    by blueeyeboy77

    Wow Harry. If nothing else you've made me want to watch T1 and T2 before I see it. But I'm in no rush to see T4 anymore. The only reason I was going to see this was for Bale and it's a damn fine shame if he's phoned this in.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    IHaveSeen...

    by Rebeck2

    Oh yes. Longwinded, dull, and pointless. And silly. QT has literally lost the plot.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Harry will get a call from Bale.

    by ClarenceBeaks

    Make sure that answering machine records everything.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Was . . .

    by kevinwillis.net

    No worse than Last Crusade. Enjoyable, not bad a movie by itself really, just incapable of invoking the magic of sitting in a theater and watching Raiders of the Lost Ark for the 4th time back in the 80s, or Temple of Doom (which I always loved, except for Kate Capshaw). But Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was a work of fine art, compared to, say, The Phantom Menace. But Van Helsing was just tedious. How Harry can worry about bad dialog and wooden acting and terrible plot beats in Salvation and have loved Van Helsing, I do not know. But, generally, when he doesn't like something, I always find there's a good reason.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Cotton - if you like chase scenes, you'll like TS.

    by vic twenty

    Cuz that is what you get. And not much else. I really like the first 30 min or so. Them Optimus Prime wages war on a gas station and the Lord Humungus tries to tame the wasteland by unleashing his dogs of war. When you see this, you will smile whilst remembering superior films it lifts from. McG is no hack, he is an "homage" expert!

  • May 20, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    "Harry, What Don't You Fucking Understand?"

    by kevinwillis.net

    "I'm a goddamned artist!"<br><br>If Christian shows up at your door with a baseball bat or dressed up like a yuppie, ala American Psycho, don't open the door, Harry! Don't open the door!

  • May 20, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    RE: scotsman75

    by cinemixtape.com

    Our states are bigger than you're countries. Shut the fuck up.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    *your

    by cinemixtape.com

  • May 20, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Wow, just wow

    by GodMars

    I am so used to coming here and bashing Harry's goo coated love fest reviews that I am shocked by what seems a very honest review.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:35 a.m. CST

    Vic Twenty

    by kevinwillis.net

    Commodore Sixty-Four says 'hi'. Same with Timex Sinclair.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    WOW Disappointed by a McG Film.

    by Redfive!

    I was never excited about this and im glad.When I go see it this week ill expect Fast and Furious.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    THE POINT IS..........

    by scotsman75

    U DUMB CUNT,THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITISH ACCENT,BRITIAN IS A UNION OF 3 COUNTRYS,SCOTLAND IRELAND WALES.UK IS BRITIAN PLUS NORTHERN IRELAND,WHAT DONT U FUCKIN UNDERSTAND U THICK CUNT.OH AND TERRY IRELAND ISNT IN BRITIAN U FUCKIN KNUCKLE DRAGGING CUNT.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    T2

    by the new transported man

    is great, but there's too much dumb shit in it. Eddie Furlong sucked, & jokes really don't belong in a movie about Terminators. T1 was fucking bleak, & it rules. The "jokes" in the beginning of T1, namely the interactions with Sarah's roommates, aren't really jokes; they're underscored by the impending doom, & the characters don't know better. In T2, they're cracking jokes right after a glob of mimetic polyalloy tried to run down John Connor with a big rig. Keep your jokes out of my apocalypse!

  • May 20, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    So, let's talk about the big cameo in the movie...

    by cinemixtape.com

    Terry Crews as a dead guy. THAT'S WHAT I'M FUCKING TALKING ABOUT!!! BRAWNDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 20, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Kevin

    by vic twenty

    Cool! Coleco Adam and I were talking about those guys just the other say. Been a while...

  • May 20, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    I've got my tickets!!!

    by themastadon

    i seriously can't wait to see this film, and hearing that harry hated it only makes it that much more enticing to see. he's like that newspaper critic that you always read cause you know when he gives a bad review it's a must see film, and when he loves it you avoid it like the plague. but am i expecting this to be the greatest film of all time? no, not at all. i know this won't be comparable to the first two films, but i'm okay with that. this time it looks like we're in the future with the war going on, that's what i want to see, lots of action. i've been waiting to see the resistence war since i was a kid seeing the opening sequence of terminator 1, and now it's here. let them tie all the other loose ends in terminator 5, but let's just see what the resistence can do in terminator salvation.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT

    by scotsman75

    END OF FUCKING POINT.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    wow

    by _Palmer_Eldritch

    Harry, I thought Bale would trash your lights if you didn't praise this one to heaven! But thanks for the honest review. <p>...personally, I blame Til Schweiger. Anything he's in ends up being total crap. Check out IMDB and you'll see I'm right.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    As bad as Alien Resurrection??

    by g0dai

    Thanks, Harry - with that statement alone, you have saved me $10. I will say though that your claim that Terminator was a love story first might be pushing it a little. Maybe in the grand scheme of things it can be argued as such, but when it was first conceived no one was thinking Love Story First.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Terminator 3: Nick Stahl as John Connor

    by kevinwillis.net

    Shit. They should have gotten Martin Short. It would have been a better performance. Or anybody. The Terminatrix was bad enough, but Nick Stahl? As John Connor? Seriously? They could have gotten Tyler Perry to play Sarah Connor, and the terrible casting would have been complete.<br><br>Nothing against Nick Stahl. I like Paul Giamatti, too, and, frankly, he would have also been a better choice to play John Connor.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    And oh yeah, I just remembered

    by I am_NOTREAL

    That this McG is responsible for "Charlie's Angels," which is in my book one of the very worst films ever made. Just thinking about that shit makes me angry. Yet it made money, and some here no doubt liked it, Harry included (I remember something about a "magical swirling ass"). There's no accounting for taste, except in AICN Talkback, where you ARE in fact accountable for everything you've ever liked or hated, I guess.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Dark Shite, Ignorant Scotsman 75

    by Rebeck2

    That's why I made the American comparison, guys. We may be one big country but we have vastly different accents depending on region, and you "Brits" never seem able to discern the variations either. All your best actors put their voices up in their noses in this generic way when they want to play American, it's fucking annoying. So it goes both ways, pals.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Vic Twenty . . .

    by kevinwillis.net

    I have a TRS-80 Color Computer in my attic. It's waiting. Just waiting.<br><br>When it's time comes, vengeance shall be wrought upon Radio Shack! Skynet, shmynet.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    Kid Idioteque

    by The Dark Shite

    I'm not defending scotsman75, mainly 'cause I couldn't give a fuck whether or not someone calls it a British accent.<p> Having said that, I've spent a fair amount of time over there, & while you're right about your states (in some cases) being bigger, you don't have quite so many accents & most importantly, dialects as we do. <p> The problem is, in films etc, they're tidied up & homogenised/de-regionalised. But I understand that, which is why I don't capitalise my posts, because I don't really care.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Seriously, why all the love for Terminator 2??

    by Cotton McKnight

    The more I read the talkback, the more outraged I become. That was the very definition of a hollywood movie! They took something that was truly unique and wonderful, and turned it into this homogenized piece of crap. Yeah yeah, it had an R rating and there was a lot of blood. But look at the facts- they turned the terminator, which was in the running for the most terrifying villain in motion picture history, and turned him into a coddling daddy figure. Ha ha, look at the emasculated death machine learn funny phrases! Ugh. And if THAT weren't bad enough, there is a paint-by-numbers ending in a factory with a bunch of vats of molten metal. Oh and don't forget that the T 1000 justsohappened to be driving a truck full of liquid nitrogen, which made him freeze when it exploded. And to top it off, judgment day was averted! Good grief. <br><br> At the end of the day, that movie is nothing more than a 2 hour ILM demo reel. Oh and a launching pad for a really cool theme park ride.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by vic twenty

    I've been to the American south. I don't recommend calling 90% of he population there "Yanks". It is akin to calling a Scotsman an Englishman.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    more reviews- less childhood memories plz thx

    by zom-bot.com

    also- the review didn't seem that specifically hateful. kind of just 'removed'from the whole thing- which is an understandable movie experience but i had the feeling that something else was on your mind like the warped screen or a flat coke or that the movie just wasn't what has been in your head for years. so when you end with a statement that is basically 'i hated it and you should too'- i have to not take the review seriously.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    REBECK U DONT GET IT

    by scotsman75

    ALL YOUR STATES R IN ONE COUNTRY,BRITIAN IS A UNION OF 3 DIFFERENT COUNTRIES,DONT U GET IT.IF HIS ACCENT WAS ENGLISH THEN ITS ENGLISH,IF ITS SCOTTISH ITS SCOTTISH,IF ITS WELSH ITS WELSH,WHY SAY BRITTISH,THEN NO ONE KNOWS WHAT COUNTRY U MEAN,ILL SAY AGAIN,BRITISH DOESNT MEAN ENGLAND,IT MEANS UNION OF 3 COUNTRYS,SCOTLAND ENGLAND AND WALES.WHY CANT U UNDERSTAND THAT.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    I Liked Terminator 2. Still Like It.

    by kevinwillis.net

    Don't know that means anything. Good action movie, lot of fun, great to see the Terminator come back and so on. Really, no place for the series to go after 2, and T3 and T4 tend to prove the point.<br><br>Interestingly, I experienced Terminator and Aliens the same way--with no expectations. Really, no awareness. Happened to come on HBO, I started watching it, and became overwhelmed with the awesomeness I was watching.<br><br>I don't think that would happen with Salvation, even if I had no idea it existed until it started to unspool in front of me.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Rebeck2

    by The Dark Shite

    I'm not complaining about it. I honestly don't give a shit about it. <p> Frankly, it doesn't matter which of those types of British accents are used, they're still British, because they're from the British Isles, therefore I don't see the harm in calling it a British accent.Scotsman75 does, because he's Scottish & they get pissed off when English & British are referred to as the same thing.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    VIC TWENTY

    by scotsman75

    SCOTLAND AND ENGLAND ARE NOT THE SAME COUNTRY.ALL YOUR STATES R IN ONE COUNTRY,THEREFORE YOU ALL HAVE AMERICAN ACCENT.DONT U GET IT,BRITIAN IS NOT A COUNTRY.SCOTLAND WALES AND ENGLAND HAVE ALL BEEN AROUND HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE BRITIAN WAS EVEN FORMED.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Cotton, this is true.

    by vic twenty

    I remember Cameron saying the direction he took with Aliens was purposely different than what Ridley Scott did with Alien because Ridley made the best horror movie possible in that universe so cameron made an action picture. <p> The Terminator was a low-budget, story-driven gem and to try to replicate it would have been folly. Hence T2 with the huge action and goofy humor (and I'm a fan). But I wish he'd had the budget (or courage?) to make a proper future war film. Because one has not been made yet.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Fucking Twilight...

    by Mastastic

    Finally watched that joke of a movie in a mandatory viewing with my GF. Anyone that likes that movie licks dicks. God help me if TS is as bad.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Wow, if McG lost Harry, he's really fucked.

    by ganymede3010

    Harry is the most forgiving film reviewer online. If he says your movie sucks then it must really be turd. ROTF bitches. And fuck Christian Bale.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    REBECK

    by scotsman75

    THATS BECAUSE ENGLAND AND BRITIAN ISNT THE SAME THING.THAT SLIKE ME SAYING USA AND CANADA R THE SAME

  • May 20, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    I was 12 when THE TERMINATOR came out...

    by MADE_IN_ENGLAND

    i made it to that point and almost gave up - if it wasnt for the title declaring the film a turd (which is what i suspected) then i wouldnt have read any further. BUT you really liked star trek harry and it was a PIECE OF FUCKING DOG SHIT - so ironically your negative review means i'll watch terminator with an open mind. ha!

  • May 20, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by The Dark Shite

    You're not really helping your cause by capitalising everything mate. It just makes you seem confrontational.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:50 a.m. CST

    Damn

    by RipVanMarlowe

    Sounds like a bad joke.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Ouch

    by meyer

    This sounds as bad as Dark Knight! Just silly crap. Might wait til DVD.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Scotsman75 - I understand completely.

    by vic twenty

    Please try to understand that Southerners don't like to be called "Yanks". That term has connotations going back to the US Civil War and is a term used to describe Northerers and Norther forces. Those wounds run deep, and your lack of sensitivity about that trumps your indignation about British vs. Englis accents. Fair Play?

  • May 20, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    DO AMERICANS GET GEOGRAPHY AT SCHOOL

    by scotsman75

  • May 20, 2009, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Jesus

    by Rebeck2

    Someone tell Scotsman what decaffeinated coffee is.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    mcG gave us a future war- love it or leave it

    by zom-bot.com

    which is more than cameron ever stuck around for long enough to do. he couldn't even commit to giving us a future war. instead wanted to give us titanic and other totally un-terminator things and try to get the taste of terminator out of his mouth after his wife left him for a chick. Now McG picks up the peices and gives us a future war and you guys still aren't happy. IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE WHAT'S IN YOUR HEAD.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    No offense to the nuke the fridge site

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...but just because you name your site after a pop culture reference, doesn't mean that anytime anyone mentions said reference, they're refering to your site.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    BRITISH VS ENGLISH??? WTF

    by scotsman75

    I GIVE UP,THEY JUST DONT GET IT

  • May 20, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    made_in_england

    by _Palmer_Eldritch

    lol... you know what, that's exactly right! :-)

  • May 20, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    UNITED KINGDOM ACCENT.

    by zom-bot.com

    THERE. PROBLEM SOLVED. MOVE ON.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Thanks, Dark Shite

    by Rebeck2

    For explaining things reasonably, I appreciate it.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    We do get it, we just don't like you.

    by vic twenty

  • May 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    HAH

    by casale2a

    Fuck this guy. This movie looks like it's gonna rule! And I don't understand what the hell is the problem with Terminator 3? It wasn't THAT bad. He's just an "uber-geek".

  • May 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Yes we do scotsman...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...we just dont give a shit about the lowest of the low.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Harry liked The Matrix Reloaded?!

    by Stuntcock Mike

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • May 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Jesus

    by Mavrixx

    I registered today just to post in this to tell Harry what a self important prick he comes across as. You review movies, if it wasnt for guys like McG, youd have no frigging job. You dont like it? Fine. No need to be as foul as you were in this review. It makes you sound petty and from the look of responses, people have very little respect for your views anymore. Stick to NEWS. Your reviews are a joke anymore.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    CANT WAIT TO SEE TERMINATOR

    by scotsman75

    ILL FIND OUT IF BALE WAS SPEAKING WITH A WELSH,SCOTTISH OR ENGLISH ACCENT.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    Cotton McKnight

    by Stuntcock Mike

    100% agreement. Well put.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST

    I think Bale uses the British accent in TS. Yes, I'm sure now.

    by vic twenty

  • May 20, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Vic

    by Rebeck2

    LOL

  • May 20, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    scotsman 75 sounds like groundskeeper willy

    by zom-bot.com

    or shrek...in my head. DAWNKAYE!

  • May 20, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Terminator is Not a Fucking Love Story, Harry.

    by Autodidact

    Jesus christ. I have to wonder about your judgement after that statement. I figured T4 would suck as soon as I saw the Robocop element. To me, that's just like the human-alien hybrid from Resurrection... it's the creatively bankrupt person's idea of a "new direction."

  • May 20, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    WHAT DOES A BRITTISH ACCENT SOUND LIKE?

    by scotsman75

    ID LOVE TO HEAR ONE

  • May 20, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Scotsman

    by Rebeck2

    If this is your biggest problem today, then life is good.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Scotsman....

    by sheathledger

    Ever heard of Northern ireland...and your saying americans dont know geography

  • May 20, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    And...

    by Rebeck2

    Learn how to SPELL British, if you want to attack somebody's education, okay?

  • May 20, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    EXACTLY ZOM_BOT

    by scotsman75

    CAUSE THAT WOULD BE A SCOTTISH ACCENT.FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT

  • May 20, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    No problem Rebeck2..

    by The Dark Shite

    & Scotsman..chill out. Relax. It's not the end of the world. I'm from the North East of England originally, you don't hear me complaining about being called British, even though it means I'm lumped in with you skirt wearing fellas:-).

  • May 20, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    YES I HAVE HEARD OF NORTHERN IRELAND

    by scotsman75

    NORTHERN IRELAND IS IN THE UK.BRITIAN IS SCOTLAND WALES AND ENGLAND,UNITED KINGDOM IS NORTHERN IRELAND PLUS THE BRITTISH ISLES,AND YOUR POINT IS WHAT EXCACTLY?

  • May 20, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    "There's Ireland! There's Scotland! And there's the bloody sea! Na get da fook out!!!"

  • May 20, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    DUDe one person said british accent...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ..everyone else is being sarcastic or ironic...chill the fuck out

  • May 20, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    by nukedthefridge

    "Yoko called me from work about 30 minutes before she got off and I was already annoyingly excited about the movie, demanding that she come home immediately so she could wipe my ass and change my diaper so we could get to the theater." lol....Harry said "nukes the fridge."

  • May 20, 2009, 11:03 a.m. CST

    I can't stand this guy.

    by maxbrown

    "I was so excited I even sent my wife into a 7-11 to get me a Slurpee cup." <p> Aren't you EVER embarrassed? <p> And who is Yoko? How could anyone put up with getting off of work and getting calls from their husband to come get picked up like a little kid? <p> Gross out.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT,AS BRITIAN IS NOT A COUNTRY,IT IS THE NAME FOR 3 UNITED COUNTRYS EACH WITH THERE OWN CULTURES AND LANGUAGES

  • May 20, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Yoko called me about 30 minutes..

    by The Dark Shite

    Before she got off too. Yep, I can bring her off in 30 mins with nothing but my silky smooth British accent;-).

  • May 20, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    How to Watch Alien Resurrection

    by Autodidact

    Alien Resurrection is just awful in terms of tone and dialog, with one of the worst endings in a big-budget Hollywood movie. The setting and art direction are good enough that I still watch it every few years for the art direction. It's not that bad if you skip to the credits right at the moment where clone Ripley (groan) is pulled into the floor. Just pretend everyone dies and it's sort of like one of the Dark Horse miniseries.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    I was hoping the sarcasm came through...

    by vic twenty

  • May 20, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Harry says "Nukes The Fridge"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by nukedthefridge

  • May 20, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    a british accent sounds like

    by zom-bot.com

    ello! ahm an ambiguously white chap from any non specific area of the united kingdom. my girl is a rather plain and sturdy girl with a crooked nose who is into 'dogging', and we both wear huge itchy sweaters and eat things other countries throw away.i often get upset when people confuse me from being from another country in the UK, even if our countries are so close together and not even as big as some 'states' in other countries and we are all basically very pasty and anglo-saxon in stock. good day! pip pip cheerio throw a haggis on the barbie erin go bragh top o the mornin' to ya matey!

  • May 20, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Thank you, God.

    by Khan_Noonien_Zing

    Harry still has it in him to spew venomous hatred towards a movie that deserves it. I have hope for the future.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    WE FUCKING GET IT SCOTSMAN....

    by DrBrianOblivion

    MAYBE IF I USE ALL CAPS YOU'LL START PAYING ATTENTION AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE . FUCKING . GET . IT !!!!

  • May 20, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Correctomundo Scotsman

    by masteryoda007

    I feel your pain brother. It is like banging your head against a brick wall with some of these numpties.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    What Was Wrong With Terminator 3

    by kevinwillis.net

    Nick Stahl. That, and the pacing was bleh.<br><br>I loved Matrix Reloaded. Except for the soul train scene. But it wasn't like they had re-cast Nick Stahl as Morpheus. Matrix Revolutions was a bit of a letdown, by comparison (except for the big battle sequences). Lots of great stuff in Matrix Reloaded, tho.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    with the last bit, i am totally kidding

    by zom-bot.com

    just ribbing you there, scotsman.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:07 a.m. CST

    BACK TO SCOTSMAN'S POINT

    by Rebeck2

    "IF IT'S NOT SCOTTISH, IT'S CRAP!!"

  • May 20, 2009, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Want a job zom-bot.com?

    by The Dark Shite

    I'm putting together a remake of Mary Poppins. I know just thr role for you!

  • May 20, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    AT LAST SOMEONE GETS IT

    by scotsman75

  • May 20, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    When your expectations are that high....

    by Hey_Zeus

    you're bound to be dumped back down to earth. seriously, they should have given McG transformers and left this to someone who doesn't produce the PUSSYCAT DOLLS show. i mean for FUCK'S sake. CHARLIE'S ANGELS and the PUSSYCAT DOLLS?? <p> some shithead producer does NOT know who their audience is and NOBODY rates christian bale seriously. it's so obvious. he always pulls that corny yankee accent that even us Brits can tell doesn't sound right. It's like he has ten extra teeth in his mouth crowding the back of his tongue. He sounds stupid and resultantly can't help but pull that spoilt brat "i don't think so" face when he delivers EVERY SINGLE LINE. <p> ah, god bless you AICN for giving me this ventile. god bless you talkbackers for reading it. God bless you trolls, too, for whatever you have to say about it. <p> which i will never read.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    T2 Greatest action film of all time.

    by eric haislar

    Movie still rocks my socks even after 18 years.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:11 a.m. CST

    what was wong with T3?

    by zom-bot.com

    the whole premise of the terminatrix. she could control machines but all she really does is remote control some cars. scary! saw that in maximum overdrive. everything arnie says is shit.clare danes who i am usually hot for came off as a shrieking hag. and when the crane hook gets caught in the manhole with perfect precision and then begins to RIP UP a bugs bunny path in the asphalt...yeah...those are just a handful of the things wrong with T3. however i too did like the ending.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Speaking of accents. What's an American accent sound like?

    by johnnyangelheart

    When Brits do an American accent they just get all nasally. WTF? Who talks like that?

  • May 20, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    bale has ten extra teeth in his mouth!

    by zom-bot.com

    ha ha oh my god you're right! makes for alot of spit too.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    .. or just don't watch it

    by Autodidact

    I feel like I just encouraged people to watch Alien: Resurrection. Don't. It sucks. But if you're like me and for some reason are compelled to watch it from time to time, remember to turn it off when Ripley goes through that floor, unless you want to see scenes so stupid and sacrimonious that you just have to shit your pants in protest.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:15 a.m. CST

    YANKS AND CANADIAN ACCENTS R THE SAME

    by scotsman75

  • May 20, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Sacreligous

    by Autodidact

    Why the fuck am I commenting here anyway.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    More brogue for scotsman75...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    "Picture the scene: The other fuckin' week there, doin' the fuckin' Volley with Tommy, playing pool. I'm playing like Paul Fuckin' Newman by the way. Givin' the boy here the tannin' of a lifetime. So it comes to there, during the last shot, the deciding ball of the whole tournament. I'm on the black and he's sittin' in the corner looking all fuckin' biscuit-arsed. When this hard cunt comes in. Obviously fuckin' fancied himself, like. Starts staring at me. Lookin' at me, right fuckin' at me, as if to say, "Come ahead, square go." You ken me, I'm not the type of cunt that goes looking for fuckin' bother, like, but at the end of the day I'm the cunt with a pool cue and he can get the fat end in his puss any time he fucking wanted like. So I squares up, casual like. What does the hard cunt do? Or the so-called hard cunt? Shites it. Puts down his drink, turns, and gets the fuck out of there. And after that, well, the game was mine."

  • May 20, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    No!?

    by Lemure_v2

    You mean McG failed to invoke any of the talent that Cameron has? McG failed to do justice to this series? NOBODY saw that coming...

  • May 20, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Scotsman

    by Rebeck2

    Dude, you're an idiot. Period. (Read that with a Coloradan accent)

  • May 20, 2009, 11:17 a.m. CST

    alien resurrection: good points

    by zom-bot.com

    1)scavanging 'pirate' crew. <P>2)wheelchair that converts to gun parts <P>3)aliens in chamber killing a weaker one to escape <P>4)set design<P>...and that's about it. even Ron Perlman was painfully annoying in it. i remember feeling like a family pet had died after seeing it. and not because the big pink puppy-alien had gotten sucked out a pinhole either.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    scotsman

    by Cedar_Room

    its not entirely true to say that Scotland, Wales and England are seperate countries - as they are in fact all part of one and the same country. And whilst Scottish people have different accents to English and English to Welsh - a catch-all term for people who are unable to distinguish (for example, someone who is from another country) would be to call it a British accent i.e. an accent coming from someone from Britain. Furthermore, like it or not - but most Americans equate a British accent with an English accent. They likely equate your Scottish accent with a drunken ginger cuntface with an inferiority complex.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    REBECK WHYS YER NOSE OUT OF JOINT NOW?

    by scotsman75

    SO ITS OK FOR U TOO TALK SHIT ABOUT MY COUNTRY ,BUT U DONT LIKE IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND EH?

  • May 20, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius

    by The Dark Shite

    Replace the word Ken & that could be fuckin anywhere!

  • May 20, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    No purple lasers?

    by Wes_Reviews_

    Fuck this movie and fuck McG.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Still selling T-4 swag on the site even though the movie sucks

    by mr dark

    A True professionial but very distracting seeing the ad in the right hand corner as I'm reading how bad the film sucks..

  • May 20, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    BALES ACCENT IS CANADIAN

    by scotsman75

    AMERICA AND CANADA R THE SAME COUNTRY

  • May 20, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Whoah, Harry speaks of fridge nuking now, does he?

    by DiamondJoe

    Shame he gave Crystal Skullfuck a free pass at the time then, isn't it?

  • May 20, 2009, 11:23 a.m. CST

    purple lazers

    by zom-bot.com

    indeed. i want exactly the 'pew pew' lazers, and the organized, grey uniforms of the resistance (tight rolled pants, shoulder pads, jeep caps and shades- at night) from terminator 1 and 2. and heaps and heaps of skulls. everywhere. no roads or parking lots or nothing. in fact, i want the skulls to urban rubble ratio to be like 500 to 1. and since McG didn't do this, i say fuck him.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    america and canada are the same CONTINENT

    by zom-bot.com

    don't they teach you kilts geography over there? ;) again- i rib!

  • May 20, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Yeah purple lasers or death

    by Rommel Catuncan

    and some 80s synth music too. Thanks.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    I LUV U HONEST HARRY

    by HaterofCrap

    yay

  • May 20, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    Zom-bot

    by Rebeck2

    "Pew pew" - LMAO!! Well said. I want that ridiculously 1980's nightclub back... Tech Noir? And Linda Hamilton hot again with big feathery hair.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    god, i just realized...

    by zom-bot.com

    if the machines DO RISE, Harry could likely be mauled by his twitter and his Hover-round electric scooter. EGADS!

  • May 20, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Dr Who

    by spiceybiscuit

    I was dragged to the movie; and yes I read the books and enjoyed them for what they were, YA...btw, I love this site and Harry is a good reviewer but I can never guess if he is going to love/hate a movie

  • May 20, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    You shouldn't be allowed..

    by peach79

    To review films after gushing over Twilight. Anyone that got any sort of enjoyment out of that shit stain has no sway over me in their movie reviews.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    1984!!!!!

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Kyle Reese sux, he gets to go back.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Ten extra teeth and all pearly white

    by Hey_Zeus

    like he visited his Swansea-valley orthodontist and said he was going to hollywood <p> "oh, Hollywood is it? well you'll be wanting some nice clean toothy-pegs. In fact, we'd better throw a couple in at the back just to be sure, like. Very high standards they have over there i tell you. You can't have too many of these in your gob."

  • May 20, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Cotton...

    by spiceybiscuit

    I agree w/you T2 does not stand up to T1 at all...and I am the biggest T1 fan...T3 was horrible and just to make money, seriously? Nick Stahl? Guns in the grave? Old nuke fall out shelter?

  • May 20, 2009, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Macterminator salivation

    by The Dark Shite

    "This isn't the future my ma told me aboot. I'm wearing a dress & my balls are ginger."

  • May 20, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Harold NO Like Movie.

    by Sal_Bando

    Harold disappointed in McG Franchise. I suspect I'll feel the same way w/ Sommers' little GI Joe franchise--woo Hoo! nuking the Eiffel! Same Dodging the rockets scene as in Transformers! WOWSERS!<p> That said--I'll go see this(matinee!) because-the promos DO look alright, because I remember Harold spooging all over Van Helsinki and Jurassic_Kong, and we ALL know what quality flicks THOSE were--and finally, I think Mssrs Bale, Worthington and co. deserve a fair viewing. <p> I would guess this movie's on a par w/ X3 or if you like, last year's Red Sox. No they didn't win the pennant, but they DID make it into game 7 of the ALCS, and that ain't bad. <p> McG is NOT great, but c'mon, this doesn't seem THAT bad. <p> Plus it has Giant Robots! I'm there.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Terminator Cheesy Crust

    by subfreq

    The writing was on the wall when Pizza Hut had an exclusive clip which turns out to be a main Harvester sequence. It's Terminator the family restaurant version, a fast food movie.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    ALL shot by 2nd unit?

    by chuffsterUK

    How come we've all seen the behind the scenes footage of the Harvester chase with McG barking orders? Just curious...

  • May 20, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    You want Bale to be fun in a post nuclear war world?

    by most excellent ninja

    I think he has other things to worry about like I don't know, saving fucking humanity.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    But was it better than Godzilla or AOTC?

    by Rupee88

    Sorry but you will never live those two reviews down. Anyway, good review this time.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Scotsman, you're becoming one of the more annoying trolls

    by D.Vader

    Just stop it already, please, for Everyones sake.

  • hope this makes it on the dvd box. nuff said.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    ALIEN RESURRECTION Rocked!!!

    by HarryBlackPotter

    It was a great film, especially the Directors Cut.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:40 a.m. CST

    trilogy?

    by Titus05

    if this movie does not meet expectations are they still going to forward with the planned trilogy?...are they locked in to doing 3 new Terminator movies?

  • May 20, 2009, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Let the Appreciation for T-3 begin

    by theycallmemrtibbs

    At least it stayed within the context of the first two. The kid that played John Conner (Although it wouldve been cooler if Furlong couldve played him) was into the character and not threatening to trash some Guys lights.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    the only person i know

    by zom-bot.com

    who could have stomach surgery and have absolutely nothing change in his health or lifestyle. sweetie, go get me a frozen corn-syrup drink!

  • May 20, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Where my LASERS at?!

    by jd77

    I knew this film was in trouble when the trailer didn't have any lasers in it. Why did they ditch the lasers?!! Every movie that came before it showed lasers in the future! Lasers could be cool again, if they were done correctly. BTW - the lasers in Star Trek sucked. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3FyG_psdX8

  • May 20, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    Titus05

    by Rommel Catuncan

    I was wondering about that too. If not that, how McG will respond to any negativity towards this, whether he would change his plans. If at all.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Next to Watchmen

    by beefywhore

    This is the Movie I most looked forward to this year. I GENUINELY Hated T3, but the hype for this one has made me excited about the franchise again. If its as bad as you say it is Harry, its going to be a LONG summer...sigh

  • May 20, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    "TWILIGHT was the far better PG13 Genre Raping"

    by MichaelCorleone

    Are you out of your goddamn mind? I'll give a pass to anyone that enjoyed the books and therefore loves the story of that franchise. However, you cannot say that the film was anything but a complete waste of time on every level professionally. I don't care how bad Terminator Salvation is, the sheer fact that it was made makes it better than the Twilight film. There were massive technical and professional issues with that film. For you to even hint that these films would be in the same vicinity as each other shows your merit as a reviewer. Act like you run a goddamn website Harry. You don't have the luxury anymore to react in such a bullshit cry baby and very unprofessional manner. Grow the fuck up and stop talking out your ass.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    The saddest part is...

    by zinc_chameleon

    That are Sara Connor Chronicles are nuked beyond hope now. I sorta knew that nothing in T:S would beat the minor episode of SummerGlauMinator and that wheel-chair war geek. That's good writing.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    Look at it this way

    by Rommel Catuncan

    in a hundred years who's gonna care?

  • May 20, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    They could always ditch McG..

    by The Dark Shite

    & bring in a real director. If not Bale's fucked. <p> He recently let slip that he's tied to a 3rd Batman, even if Nolan doesn't come back. If this is the same, I expect some actual light trashing sooner or later.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    the idea that T1 and T2 were good only because of

    by LabattsBleu

    our ages at the time is ridiculous...T1 and T2 are on TV all the time and they are still great movies, so nostalgia has nothing to do with the quality of those films - don't forget that there were people our age at the time of T2 and T1's release, and they thought the movies were fantastic too...there's a reason why these movies are still discussed and compared 25 and 17 years on: they were brilliant. Will anyone be talking about T3 and T:S in such glowing terms decades from now? A resounding NO.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Canadian and American accents are the same

    by johnnyangelheart

    If you live in frakkin' Minnesota, otherwise, not so much.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    WAHT HAPPENED HEERE

    by gotilk

    That line in the trailer was my first clue. How sad. It was video game cut scene from 1998 bad.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    wow the stack of dimes lasers clip

    by zom-bot.com

    totally worthless. crappy animation and more self promo than actually getting the point across. <P>i have wondered about the lasers myself, but just assumed that is an alternate future where man swiped the laser tech from the terminators (who- yeah, can invent TIME TRAVEL but can't handle inventing lasers now?)and used it against them. that's what stupid skynet gets for sending their robotic troops out HOLDING LASER GUNS instead of having them be built in to them. i mean, loss of the use of a hand is the same whether you are holding a gun or your hand IS a gun. and if you are going to send a bunch of nekkid terminator endoskeletons out on patrol it really doesn't matter if they look like people with 2 hands, does it?

  • May 20, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    So, In Other Words, It's Better Than T2: WAAAAAAAAH!

    by LaserPants

    But not as good as the first one. Check.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    "Because then it'll be no worse than T2, the most overrated film

    by Jared Syn

    LaserPants, is that you?

  • May 20, 2009, 11:51 a.m. CST

    So, after this, is everyone still hating SCC?

    by MurderMostFowl

    I'm thinking this is a bit of a "told you so". McG thought he could bring something and he gets beat by a series with one tenth the budget.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:52 a.m. CST

    SO THIS ISN'T CHRISTIAN BALE'S BEST WORK

    by BringingSexyBack

    How do you expect Him to give a great performance when He's directed by MuhGee and distracted by the light? Fucking amateursm one and all. <P> All praise the exalted One. His glory be upon us.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Nope Jared Syn

    by The Dark Shite

    It was me, I think. I do think it's overrated. I love the first film & kinda like the second. I just don't really care for substitute daddy Arnie.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Harry's YOU ARE UNPROFESSIONAL!

    by HarryBlackPotter

    Okay, the film sucks, but was the lighting any good?

  • May 20, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Harry, spot on with Alien Resurrection

    by MurderMostFowl

    Perhaps there's hubris in "Ressurrection" and "Salvation" that got in the way. Both films seem to focus mostly on visual aspects and very little on story.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    Wow, McG fucked us. Big surprise.

    by GrandMuffTarkin

    He had us going there for a second, what with his interviews and "I'm a fan" bullshit. But in the end, it's McG.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Really?

    by hairslayer

    You were so excited that you sent your WIFE into a 7-11 to get you a slurpee cup??? You disgusting slug.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Aww, hell naww!

    by ReportAbuse

    We are frakking DONE professionally! Nothing to do but watch Star Trek again and wait for the Footloose remake.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    RKDN

    by The Dark Shite

    What the fuck:-)? The mad scotsman was bad enough.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    It Wasn't Me, Jared Syn (How Is Cade, Btw?)

    by LaserPants

    But T2 is, far and away, the MOST overrated movie of all times. Ever. OF ALL TIMES. Now, I go to insane exaggerated lengths to bust on T2 (mostly because it CRACKS ME THE FUCK UP how upset the OBESE VIRGINS get), but I can understand how people would like it -- T2 is cutesy poo, family friendly, features an ending ripped from OLD YELLER, and then wraps everything up on a Super Positive Happy note that soothes the audience. See, for me, I like my Dark Future dark, I don't need robodaddies and mommies running around a backlot with a whiny emo teen who thinks guns n' posers are cool. I'd far rather watch a flawed but entertaining FUTURE FUCKING WAR, then a pandering, lame, limp, feel good, family friend WEE WUB WOO WOBODADDY, WAAAAAAH!!! movie. But thats just me. Apparently the rest of you would glady eat an entire bowl of steaming hot shit if Jim "I Made Two Good Movies In The 80s, Thats It" Cameron told you too. Hell, you'd ask for seconds! And then get mad at people who say, "Dude! Your eating poopies!"

  • May 20, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    I WAS LOOKING AT THE LIGHT!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Fuck!

  • May 20, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    T2 Script

    by LaserPants

    Wickle Jonnie Connor: WAAAAAAAAH!<br><br> ARRRRRRNULD: Why doo woo cwy?<br><br> Butch Lesbo Mom: GRRRRRR!!! I'm angry!!! GRRR!!!<br><br> Early 90s CGI Man: ...<br><br> Repeat for two hours. The end.<br><br>(Of course, I'm sure T:S's script is just as one note, but at least we get to see FUTURE! FUCKING! WAR!)

  • May 20, 2009, noon CST

    So ... what do you really think?

    by riskebiz

    I'll see the film myself.

  • May 20, 2009, noon CST

    OBESE VIRGINS - sounds like niche porn

    by HarryBlackPotter

  • May 20, 2009, noon CST

    SKOTTSMUNN '75 in AWL KAPS MODE!

    by Sal_Bando

    complete w/ Great BRITISH TEETH. <p> Fuck this shit. You wanna talk accents? Okay pallie I grew up in MAINE, okay? Coast of Maine esp east of Rockland has most of the natives biting off their 'R's and aping Tim Sample routines. Interior from there it's about the same but they sharpen their crayolas more. SW of there along the coast they sound like NE Massholechussets. Up from Aroostook County where I grew up--we sound like we're from the Midwest, because of fucking New Brunswick across the line. Unless you're Quebecoise French then your accent sounds like Pepe De la Pew's toothless cousin in the shoe factory. Mix that shit allll together and you get Bangor, Lewiston and Augusta. And out in New Hampshire, the accent starts getting closer to a psuedo-Great Lakes kinda thing, more nasal and less Bahstonish. <p> Okay? And Maine is only 33K square miles. I remember living in Texas-you had different twangs down there in Dallas vs Houston vs San Antonio, and it's not like it's that close, either. <p> BRITISH ACCENT: DAVID FUCKING NIVEN okay?? shit don't be so touchy.

  • forgetting that Britain includes Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland

  • May 20, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Fandango's advertising 2 for 1 tickets.

    by tonagan

    That can't bode well.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST

    T2 sucks big time

    by theplant

    It's unwatchable. "I know why you cwy" "youjustcantgoroundkillinpeople". Fuck you you little dipshit was the best line in the entire movie. I'm sure this movie is as good as T1.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST

    McG is a hack??? Really?

    by most excellent ninja

    Seriously I could have never predicted that.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST

    SAL BANDO STILL DONT GET IT LOL

    by scotsman75

    HE KEEPS COMPARING IT TO DIFFERENT STATES IN AMERICA,JUST DOESNT GET IT LOL

  • May 20, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST

    Brutal

    by amnesiac108

    Harry, you're the worst fucking writer the internet has to offer. You're lucky you're self employed.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Come on, Sal_Bando

    by The Dark Shite

    You do know that bad teeth thing came from a Mike Myers joke, right? <p> You can't get bad teeth by being born in a particular country. Unless you're part of an undiscovered amazonian tribe or something. <p> On the other hand, maybe the mad scotsman does have bad teeth. Did you know that Scottish fish & chip shops sell deep fried mars bars? Seriously. They eat deep fried fucking mars bars! They also eat the fish, but they like to keep the chips on their shoulders.<p>

  • May 20, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Such a shame. Lets hope Drag Me to Hell is good.

    by Ash0k

  • May 20, 2009, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Some quotes from Harry's Phantom Menace review...

    by RandySavage

    People here are properly ripping into Harry's review history, and I'd like to join in on the fun. <P>So, here are some quotes from his review of Phantom Menace, the Lord of all Franchise Killers: <p> "When I first read Jar Jar’s scenes I was terrified because.... well whenever Jar Jar did something, I imagined the solitary focus being upon Jar Jar. But.... Guess what? Mesa Luved Him!" <P> "By the way, I really dug Anakin [played by Jake Lloyd] too." <P> "I’m so utterly love smitten. I was afraid tonight. Instead, I saw a really wonderful adventure." <P> "And right now, I want to apoligize to the folks that hate this movie. I don’t. I genuinely loved it." <P> McG's terminator may very suck, but good ol' Harry's reviews have not one iota of credibility.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST

    If Harry hates it, then it MUST be good. Simple logic

    by GaiustheBrave

  • May 20, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST

    HADDERS

    by scotsman75

    THE REASON AMERICANS THINK BRITIAN MEANS ENGLAND,IS BEACAUSE YOUR EITHER IGNORANT OR UNEDUCATED,AND SECONDLY NORTHERN IRELAND IS PART OF THE UK,NOT BRITIAN.SO GOING BACK TO MY POINT,THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT,AS BRITIAN IS NOT A COUNTRY,IT IS A UNION OF SCOTLAND WALES AND ENGLAND,EACH WITH THERE OWN ACCENTS AND LANGUAGES AND CULTURES.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:08 p.m. CST

    wow, ok Harry thank you

    by SylarTheCylon

    for the review. Too bad, i was expecting something at the very least good. Bale is terribly overrated btw, his batman sucks donkey thingies.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Maybe they're building up to the lasers?

    by Rommel Catuncan

    because this trilogy is building up to something over three movies? (Thanks George Lucas). And this is just the beginning? Waiting for a payoff over a few years? (great trend there) <p> Will we ever see the lasers? This I must know.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    "He kissed my ass proper ...

    by ReportAbuse

    ...but when it came time for me to give him my blowjob, his dick had shit all over it and I wouldn't go there." You've raised your standards, Harry.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Can someone explain to me how this is different than...

    by KidNiki

    most other action flicks of the past??? More specifically things like Predator, Commando, most Michael Bay movies, etc. Harry kept taking about how pointless things were and other reviews have commented on the characters and their development. None of those other movies really have that. To me it seems like this is McG's Kobayashi Maru. There is no way he iwas gonna please everyone. I haven't seen this yet but I just can not believe with as dark and grim as the trailers look that it is that bad. Also, I pretty much think Cameron movies have some of the corniest lines ever, "Look into my eye!", "Its too late I'm already involved..."(Titanic). I really want to know how people can claim this is crap yet hold other movies at a higher level, especially when they are very similar.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:09 p.m. CST

    British accents

    by Cedar_Room

    @ Sal Brando - there are myriad accents from across England - it can change in the space of 20 miles, never mind the different accents in different countries. <p> @ hadders - Great Britain is the island that consists of England, Wales and Scotland so actually Northern Ireland is not part of Britain. Our country is after all The United Kingdom Of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    scotsman

    by Cedar_Room

    you bitter Jock bastard. Just answer me this - what type of passport do you have? What does it say is your nationality?

  • May 20, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    I KIN DEW THIS TOO WATCH ME

    by Sal_Bando

    I KIN FEIGN MORAL OUTRAGE CUZ NO ONE BOTHERED ENTERING THE STATE FUNDED FILM OF SCOTTSMUN IQ75 SHAGGING THE LOCAL COREDALE SHEEP POPULATION AT CANNES. IT R AN OUTRAGE. EXCUSE ME WHILE I GO PLAY 'PASS THE DUTCHIE' ON ME BAGPIPES

  • May 20, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    I trust this review

    by Mr_Mifune

    A) Because Roger Ebert hated it, and while I don't always agree with him, I know where he's coming from and it doesn't bode well. B) It's one thing to cite when Harry likes a movie like Crystal Skull, because he tends to like just about everything, but when Harry HATES a movie, that's a whole other matter. If it's so bad that the guy who likes everything hates it, I take that with a high degree of credibility.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:11 p.m. CST

    "They like to keep the chips on their shoulders"

    by Rebeck2

    Ba-dum bum! I like it. :) See, that's British wit for you...I mean, uhm, English...UK-ish...

  • May 20, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    I really, honestly don't understand the difference...

    by GaiustheBrave

    Star Trek was just as much a brainless, action movie with little or no heart. Some great effects, yes. Boring? No. Still, if you can love Star Trek, with ALL of its many flaws, what's the big difference from the meaningless, dumb action in T:S?

  • May 20, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    Sounds like I am going to enjoy it

    by disfigurehead

    I liked Alien Resurrection BTW

  • May 20, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    we'll finally get the lasers

    by zom-bot.com

    at the end of the third new trilogy. it's all leading up to lasers. the scene, a now grizzled john connor sits reading the reports from various encounters, and a resistance fighter is brought in to him 'i've got something to show you- we've never seen anything lik this before- the 800's, they're carrying ...THESE' *(hands him a pew pew laser gun)<P>'wow, they're fucking professional, the debbils hands habben bizz...' he says. 'quick- we have to step up the game- dispense the plain gray jumpsuit uniforms to every resistance fighter. i want EVERYONE's pants tightrolled ASAP! jeep caps and shades for everyone. YES i know it's nighttime all the time now, but we're deling with LASERS, man! we need shades! now take all those skulls we've been collecting and spread them out before every battle. maybe the treads or robot feet will stumble over them. at the very least we'll hear them crunchinf when they approach...now MOVE! MOVE!

  • May 20, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    GOING BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    NO SUCH THING AS ABRITTISH ACCENT,IM NOT SAYING THAT ACCENTS ARNT DIFFERENT IN AMERICA,THEY ARE ALL AMERICAN ACCENTS.IM SAYING THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN A BRITTISH ACCENT,SIMPLY BECAUSE BRITIAN IS NOT A COUNTRY ITS A UNION OF 3 DIFFERENT COUNTRYS.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Harry: it feels like children playing with material

    by ThePilgrim

    of which they haven't the slightest grasp of. They can't conceive of what actually made the material great to begin with. To them, it's the props, the hardware, the most rudimentary iconography. Not how the characters were LOVED by their creators. <P> If one of you AICN guys would read the screenplay for PD's A Nightmare On Elm Street Remake, and honestly review it, and post Chris Johnson You Tube Fan Trailer up. Well maybe you could get them to fix this film while the camera's still rolling. <P> For some strange reason this just is not going to happen. Terminators done for you. Well in some small way it should be. It used to be art, then it became a brand, and then the man behind it left it for good. Now anything created in it's name is has a higher chance of being crap. Plain and simple fact. Support Original Idea's. Force Hollywoods hand, and ignore this garbage, and yet we wont. We still go. I'm forced to see this. I don't want to I really don't because I know it's going to suck. I feel bad for the people who were 10 in 1999. That's an entire generation that has grown up under this remake gun. What kind of cinematic voice will those under it's influence provide us with. I highly doubt it will be independent and original. It's nearly at the point where we will praise someone who creates an entire film using other film ideas and plots and calls it their own. This future sucks.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Harry loves [insert anythi.... WAIT A FUCKING SECOND!!!!

    by Droid

    Holy shit! Hold the presses! Harry doesn't like something!? What the fuck is going on here? <p>Oh wait! I know. McG didn't hold a "i will let you suck my cock because i know you swallow" special viewing experience like that fuckhead JJ. <p>A negative Harry review just makes this flick much more interesting.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Sounds Better Than Wolverine

    by thefraze

    At least it will be better than "X-Men Origins: Wolverine"

  • May 20, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Holy shit! Always entertaining!

    by Cellar Door

    Damn! Well...I'm glad we're getting back to form. So many posts with everybody giving each other handjobs and finally people are throwing shit at each other again!<p>And what the fuck is the deal with arguing over accents and which part of this or that continent is part of this or that country or union? Well, at least it's not as irrelevant as politics poking it's doughy white face into every TB.<p>And even though it's a feat akin to standing up and not falling over, I appear to be correct in my predictions about T:S, a meaningless action extravaganza better handled and less cheesy than schlock like Bay's work but really not much better...bereft of story or development (altho I predicted it would exchange needless complexity for story..wrong on that I guess..I figured McG would ape the Wachowskis..turns out he just aped the unborn love child of Rattner and Bay).<p>And tho I know tends to improve even shitty material, I must say I'm surprised at Harry's reaction to his performance.<p>Of course, I haven't seen it yet so cannot legitimately slam or praise the flique just yet...but I'm not surprised at the latest reveiws cropping up...<p>And I'm a little surprised at Harry's insolence regarding this movie. I think it speaks to the general anger coming from the "haters" since talk of this new 'franchise' began. This idea of growing up with something and, in turn, feeling loyal to the point of feeling like you own a piece of it. I'm not knocking this as I do it myself. I feel like I "grew up" with the first Terminator movie and even the second (yes, it has some faults) and I did think that bias colored my reaction to T3 and likely T:S.<p>Of course we don't 'own' these movies and the idea of being personally offended...for real..is a bit pretentious but I think the sentiment is there all the same. Logic or not.<p>The very first time I heard McG was helming I couldn't help rolling my eyes. I always spoke of hoping I was proven wrong and that it would be worthy of the first 2 flims...even if not as good as either. And Im not glad I was right...mainly because after this apparent craptaastic film makes a huge mint, McG will be given hundreds of millions for the sequel and will be given free creative reign. Hope you guys are ready for John Conner using the time machine to travel back to discuss strategy killing the Terminators with General Patton. Maybe he's go back in time and get a shitty modern computer virus that Skynet would be dismissive of (like the in SW where a single fighter wasn't considered a threat) that will bring down HBC (the face of Skynet).<p>I'll say this about what I'm reading...it sounds like, yet again, the one person given the power did not understand even a single thing about the original franchise/storylines (just like Zombie with Halloween).<p>Apologies for the novel/thx for readin...me toosense

  • May 20, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST

    Cotton McKnight...

    by DoctorWho?

    I LOVED Terminator and dragged everyone I knew to the theatre to see it. I was violently against a sequel and Arnie as a "good guy" terminator! The first picture stood on it's own and the ending was poetic and left you filling in the story in your mind.<p> But welcome to the era of the franchise sequels. I stood in line and was ready to hate T2.<p> I walked out of the theatre realizing Cameron's brilliance!<p> Sure Arnie's terminator was a "good guy" character now...but it was written into the story logically. And Cameron upped the ante with an even MORE lethal (albeit fantastic) threat. <p> Misplaced humor? Sure...but needed to displace tension in films like this. The father son aspect made perfect sense too and Arnie never broke character as the cold protector until the thumbs up at the end which I hated. <p> These are all fair critiques BUT Cameron's pacing of action and masterful, seamless use of effects cannot be denied. ILM film reel? Please...all of his action pieces (Aliens, True Lies, Titanic) are on par and usually better than ANYONE directing today. To deny this is sheer hating.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    I Almost Feel Bad for McG

    by RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    He tried really hard to sell this, and I know he comes off like a douche sometimes, but I think overall hes probably a really nice guy. I wanted to believe he could pull this off and gain some cred, but it looks very unlikely. I'm sure he's very sad today. It has to sting. I feel bad for him.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    If Harry hates it, it's gotta be awful!

    by Rob0729

    Harry loves everything. He loves shittiest movies that are insults to any intelligent moviegoer. Rarely does he hate something that most people love. I don't particularly think Harry is a great reviewer, but it is because he is far too easy on the films he reviews, not too hard. This movie should have been a slam dunk out of the park home run of a review. I was expecting for Harry to say this movie totally revamps the series and that McG has even improved on Cameron's vision. The fact that he did the opposite, tells me this movie is going to suck. I don't trust a glowing review from Harry, but I do trust a negative one.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    SCOTTY IN STAR TREK

    by scotsman75

    YOU WOULDNT SAY HIS ACCENT WAS BRITTISH WOULD YOU ? YOU WOULD SAY IT WAS SCOTTISH.IF BALES ACCENT IS ENGLISH IN TERMINATOR ,THEN ITS AN ENGLISH ACCENT,I DONT SEE WHAT ALL THE CONFUSION IS ABOUT.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    But somehow

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    Harry didn't seem to give a shit about how unfaithful JJ was to the Trek mythos. I hate to keep harping on the same shit, but come on! Bit of a double-standard, don't ya think? This could very well be as awful as this review claims, in fact, I have the feeling it is...but I'm still going to find out for myself tomorrow. But I do agree that Alien Resurrection was fucking unprofessional and distracting. Joss Whedon was like "LA DE DA DE DA" in the background, while Carl's husband from Cheers threw a grenade down an escape pod like a bowling ball.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    SHANE HURLBUTT TRASHED BALE'S SCENE

    by BringingSexyBack

    Drag his soul to hell.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Mr. Mifune, there is a weakness in your argument

    by GaiustheBrave

    At least, a weakness with Part B. If Harry's enthusiasm for bad movies results, not from a diminished benchmark for quality, but from an inability to appreciate quality altogether, then his judgement cannot be trusted whether he is liking or hating a movie. I'm not saying Terminator:Salvation is good. I am saying that it isn't fair to assume that just because Harry likes a lot of bad movies then one can assume if he doesn't like a movie, it must be very low in quality, since you can just as easily assume that Harry is incapable of appreciating quality completely.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    A parallel universe Harry Knowles review...

    by HarryBlackPotter

    Remember, he got laid the night before, he 'walked' into the theatre instead of rolled; the hotdog guy didn't forget to put the mustard underneath his dog and his cola didn't taste like sweetened piss... I think Terminator Salvation is like being hopped up eight bowls of Frosted Flakes with marshmallows sugar rush of a 9 year old dream of what the ultimate Terminator movie would be. I also believe that for McG this is an incredibly personal film. Call me naive, claim that I swallowed McG’s Mad Max inspired fantasy hook, line and sinker, but as I watched the radiant and energetic and action packed Terminator Salvation, I was giggling along with my dad and we loved it. After the last frame of the movie,where John Connor has taken a cyborgs cock up his ass for the sake of humanity, I knew they'd hit the right note for me. I'm willing to bet all the chips, McG had endless 9 year old conversations with his Dad last week about what the coolest Terminator movie ever was…I know I did. And when he grew up McG still wanted to make the mother of all Terminator movies, even though he was handicapped with the mental age of a 9 year old, but the passion lingered grew up to be Stephen Sommers, and now this (mentally retarded man / boy) has made the cooliest Terminator ever! And I'll be damned, but I bet every drop of blood in McG's universe tastes like Big Red with a wad of cum for good measure! McG loves this material… there isn’t a second of this film where I couldn’t feel that unfettered enthusiasm for the material unleashed. Like a half-crazed unleashed pre-adolescent fantasy ought to be told, this thing is filled with conveniences that are there solely for the sake of coolness. swings baby? Hehehe… The amount of robots in this thing, for a bit you’d think this was influenced by T1, T2, T3. Gravity, Torque and the physical realities mean nothing in McG’s universe. All those things are sacrificed to his personal God of Cool. I mean, every element of this thing has that same unleashed gloriously childish sensibility to it. There isn’t a single cynical frame of self-awareness in this thing. McG is essentially leaping for joy in his favorite childhood pajamas trying to make a hole in his ceiling while laughing and leaping upon his bed. It’s crazy, it doesn’t make a lick of sense, but God Damn if it isn’t a shitload of fun. I mean, things that just didn’t make any sense to me when I read his script, which I wasn’t really a fan of, suddenly leapt to life onscreen. And I think I get it. You see, when you read something, or at least when I read something, its easy to get hung up on a detail. A thing like… Why the fuck does John Connor have a BRITISH accent, he’s supposed to fucking be American! BUT – when you watch the film, and you see him doing impossibly agnry scenes. Well frankly, it’s because the British kick Termiantor butt like noone. There’s a crazy cartoon logic at play in this film that dares to invent its own whacked mythology. It is at that level that you’re either going to go with it, or fucking hate this thing as a piece of shit. The rules are never laid out in black and white in this film, and if you bring in the established rules and have no room to budge with them… Crazy ass action and Terminator mumbo jumbo. I could have fought this film from frame one, but I didn’t. This film isn’t about subtlety, atmosphere and reverence. This is about going into those worlds and just tearing it up… having fun and moving around as fast as you can. Its about fun, and it really is up to the viewer to want to have it… or not. Personally, I had a shitload of fun.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    wrong again scotsman

    by Cedar_Room

    the country was formed by the Act of Union which unified the crowns of Scotland and England (which already included Wales at that point). So it is a union of crowns not a union of countries. Scotland is not it's own country it is subserviant to its master. England. And you can wave your tartan scarf and cry "FREEEEEEDOOOOOOM" all you want whilst chomping on your deep fried mars bar but no-one gives a fuck coz this basic point is true.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST

    Scotsman, you just fucked your point up..

    by The Dark Shite

    I quote: "IM NOT SAYING THAT ACCENTS ARNT DIFFERENT IN AMERICA,THEY ARE ALL AMERICAN ACCENTS.IM SAYING THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN A BRITTISH ACCENT<p> No, there is no such thing as an all encompassing British accent, rather there are variations, but the same can be said of Americans. As you said "they are all American accents" the same applies to Britain. An accent from the British Isles is by definition British. <p> You already made your point of there not being one specific British accent & the people you were talking to have accepted your point. There's no need to keep going on about it.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST

    CONFUSION

    by scotsman75

    THE BIG CONFUSION HERE SEAMS TO BE THAT MOST AMERICANS DONT KNOW WHAT BRITIAN MEANS.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:22 p.m. CST

    zom-bot.com

    by DoctorWho?

    LMAO!

  • May 20, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST

    JESUS HARRY, QUIT BLAMING RATNER FOR X3.

    by Shermdawg

    You know damn well Rothman and Co. fucked that up. NOT HIM.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    SO GOING BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT.END OF DISCUSSION

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    SO GOING BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT.END OF DISCUSSION

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    SO GOING BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT.END OF DISCUSSION

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    SO GOING BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT.END OF DISCUSSION

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    SO GOING BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT.END OF DISCUSSION

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    SO GOING BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT.END OF DISCUSSION

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    SO GOING BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT.END OF DISCUSSION

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    SO GOING BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT.END OF DISCUSSION

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    SO GOING BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT.END OF DISCUSSION

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    SO GOING BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT.END OF DISCUSSION

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    THIS JUST IN... JESSICA BIEL

    by turketron_2

    In Allure magazine says that it's tough being amazingly hot...

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    SO GOING BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT.END OF DISCUSSION

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    SO GOING BACK TO MY POINT

    by scotsman75

    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A BRITTISH ACCENT.END OF DISCUSSION

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    star tek was okay

    by zom-bot.com

    it revamped the series and will likely bring a lot of new stupid people into liking it because it was so palatable (and yet bland). it didn't make me think. even for a second. some people have said that star trek needed a thoughtless vehicle to get accepted. and i won't disagree for a second that the action wasn't good and it was all shot wonderfully. but it didn't make me think or hope or wonder or anything. and the fact that the engine room of the enterprise looks like some canadian water treatment plant got a free paintjob if they could shoot in it...well- that was some cheap ass shit right there. cheaper than anything from ST:TOS.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    And It "Seams"...

    by Rebeck2

    Like you don't know how to spell. Mr. Asshat.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    I've got it..It's McG!

    by The Dark Shite

    You almost had us going there Scotsman.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Britian means England

    by Papa Lazaru

    and beanz meanz heinz . Also, no shocks here about the review. Not that I take any stock from Harry's reviews. Although I always enjoy reading bad reviews for some reason .Anyway , did anybody expect this to be good ?? From the Director of Charlies Angels !

  • May 20, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    AMERICANS HAVE BRITTISH ACCENTS

    by scotsman75

    FUCK IT EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS BRITTISH ACCENTS,LETS ALL USE THE YANKS LOGIC.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    AMERICANS HAVE BRITTISH ACCENTS

    by scotsman75

    FUCK IT EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS BRITTISH ACCENTS,LETS ALL USE THE YANKS LOGIC.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    AMERICANS HAVE BRITTISH ACCENTS

    by scotsman75

    FUCK IT EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS BRITTISH ACCENTS,LETS ALL USE THE YANKS LOGIC.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Dark Shite

    by Rebeck2

    That's the point I was making originally, thank you. But as we call see now, Scotsman has very clearly lost his tartan mind.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Lasers- YEAH!

    by Rommel Catuncan

    It'll be werf it, waiting through three slow movies to see the lasers at the end! I can't wait. Like when Vader crossed his arms at the end of ROTS. I was at peace. I was at peace. I could go home again.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    and in Rand McNally

    by Papa Lazaru

    Hamburgers eat people

  • May 20, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    WAIL!!! I’m no longer interested in Terminator...NEH NEH NEH!!!

    by HarryBlackPotter

    And then he throws his toys out of the pram.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    British has one T mate.

    by The Dark Shite

    As does "tranquiliser". Tit has two. As does Twat.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by slone13

    Give it a rest

  • May 20, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    scotsman75, The Dark Shite, Cedar_Room

    by DoctorWho?

    Isn't there a Dialect or Linguistics talkback where you could take this ever so fascinating discussion?

  • May 20, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    JJ Abrams raped my childhood

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    Wb should have done a special screening of T2 for Harry... and have Bale show up and play T4 instead! <P> Then people would cry and T4 would be a cinematic masterpiece!

  • May 20, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    I'm waiting for the technology to catch up

    by Rommel Catuncan

    ... <p> *crickets* <p> *a frog's croak*

  • May 20, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Bale plays a humorless, zero personality cypher? NO WAI!

    by Frisco

    I'll probably still see the movie. Here's a fun exercise though: read Harry's review but replace the franchise, director, and actors' names with JJ-Trek analogues. That's assuming you felt about the Trek movie the same way I did, that is.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    DoctorWho?

    by The Dark Shite

    I'm not having a discussion. I'm just sick of this fucker going on & on. Don't even put me in the same sentence as that crazy fucker.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    Yeah but aren't reviews more for....

    by Cellar Door

    Shared catharsis and vicarious insulting? I will occasionally use overall consensus on whether or not I'll see a flick blind or purchase a disc (I love buying blind and loving the movie!) but I don't think those decisions have ever weighed solely on a critic's personal take. I just enjoy reading it from a non-perverted voyeuristic-like manner and whether or not my take is in line with any particular take from someone else.<p>Do you guys actually spend money at the theater based on what people like Harry or Ebert says? I get it for movies I'm not invested in story-wise but then are there many of those for you guys? I mean arguing about whether or not expectations are low, high, or non existent in these neo-summer tent-pole popcorn movies is basically pointless.<p>Consensus hates the Underworld movies and I like em. Consensus liked T3 and I basically hated it. Consensus here LOVES anything Apatow and I just find his random dialog scenes funny (40yoV being the exception due to Carrell of course) and then the completely schizophrenic take on guys like Rattner or McG. Half of you hate them and half don't but yet each half hates the other half for their opinion. Sooner or later, your zeal will mask your actual and honest take...perhaps we see that in Harry's review here. Perhaps not...but holy shit is it fun readin! Yeehaw!!!! Thanks for playing!

  • May 20, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    T2: THE WISE OF WOBODADDY = NOT MY CUP OF TEA

    by BringingSexyBack

  • May 20, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Can't wait for Harry's take on Land Of The Lost

    by skimn

    You gotta give Harry this, his hate filled reviews are as passionate as his "best time I ever had in a theater EVER" reviews.<p>So Harry? Would you rate this on a scale even below last summers The Happening and/or The Love Guru? If thats the case...wow.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    charlie

    by paulyd30

  • May 20, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    This review echoes how I felt

    by Himbo

    about Godzilla.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    BSB

    by skimn

    Don't start cribbing from Laserpants. You're cleverer than that.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    NOTE TO ALL AMERICANS

    by scotsman75

    IF YOUR GOING ON HOLIDAY DONT ASK FOR A FLIGHT TO BRITIAN,U COULD LAND IN ANY ONE OF 3 DIFFERENT COUNTRYS,JUST A TRAVEL TIP TO YOU YANKS.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    I WOULD REPROGRAM BRYCE HOWARD

    by BringingSexyBack

    to take her clothes off.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    great fuckin headline

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    and (gulp) good review harry

  • May 20, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    BRITISH FLAG

    by scotsman75

    CAN ANY U YANKS NAME THE FLAGS THAT MAKE UP THE UNION JACK.IM WILLING TO BET MY LIFE ON IT THAT NONE OF U GET IT.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    but you made yourself sound like a shitty demanding husband

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    "YOKO GET YOUR FUCKING ASS HOME BIATCH!" jeez you cant talk to people like that harry

  • May 20, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Get the picture yet Doctorwho?

    by The Dark Shite

    The scotsman is insane. I like how you included me & Cedar room in with him. He isn't talking to us, he's actually talking to Americans. <p> We were the only ones he couldn't give a shitty answer to. But fuck it. I'm in Japan & it's 2:38am, so you can have your wish. I'll go to bed. You can deal with him if ya like. Let's see how long you last with the mouthbreathing pleb.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Anyone ask M. Night what he thought?

    by Cellar Door

    I still love Vern's review of Lady in the Water. Made me think of M. Night creeping around the T:S set like that character "The Wanderer" from ancient SCTV. Cast picture here...there's M. Night in the back looking at BDH's trailer. Final action set construction complete photos with M. Night dipping into the KS tables while wearing dark glasses and a baseball cap. Grainy pics of M. Night stalking Hurlbutt to put in what he felt was Bryce's part of the argument when Bale spoke in a single stream of rhetoric which changed the history of the world (and AICN).<p>Epiphany is rampant today!

  • May 20, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    charlies angels = worst movies of all time

    by paulyd30

    All I know is that the two Charlie Angels movie were the worst two movies of all time. I had rather watch Barney at least that is more realistic than 3 superwomen flying around like it is New Krypton in metropolis. Since T4 is from the same director how can you expect anything less than a price of overblown shit that does not respect the sourse material. I see Harry's point and passion for the direpect for T1 and T2 this movie creates. You can't make sequels that dont respect the sourse material as T# and T4 do.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Fact : 95% of people who don't like T2 enjoy sucking dick.

    by most excellent ninja

    truth.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    T4 was fun, by the way

    by slone13

    <p>Certainly not the shitfest Harry's making it out to be.</p> <p>And who cares if a second unit shot the action scenes?</p>

  • May 20, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Fact: 100% Of People Who Like T2 Suck Dick, Eat Shit

    by LaserPants

    And are really, REALLY dumb.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Though Harry hated it more...

    by Gil Brooks

    ...he's pretty on point with my review- http://tinyurl.com/pjgtm9 - I felt the movie gets a big "MEH".

  • May 20, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    scotsman STOP TYPING WITH A BRITISH ACCENT

    by turketron_2

    That's what it means when you capitalize EVERY FUCKING LETTER OF YOUR POST, RIGHT? SHUT THE FUCK UP BRUCE.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    100% of my girlfriends liked T2. :(

    by Shermdawg

  • May 20, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Weta's computers are actually more powerful than ILM

    by most excellent ninja

    they are the real skynet meets teletraan 1.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Sounds like it's...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    this summer's Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack

    by slone13

    Leave the "robodaddy" schtick (and the whole "r's pronounced as w's") to Laserpants.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    I'm sorry.

    by Juggernaut125

    <p>The guy goes by the name 'McG'. DOUCHE! On that reason alone I was planning on giving this film a miss. Now, I'm settled. He's not getting my cash for this train wreck.</p> <p>And T3 was terrible as well. There is no way they would've made it in to the central communications hub of a military base dragging Arnie along with them. Ridiculous. The t3 bot seemed to be able to control the way a car steers using nano-tech. DUMB! Both of these films should have only been made with either Cameron's guidance or with a tribunal of Terminator expert geeks to fully scour the scripts for logic errors and TALENTED writers who know how to tell a good story.</p>

  • May 20, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST

    BRITAIN IS EMBROILED IN AN MP EXPENSES SCANDAL

    by BringingSexyBack

  • May 20, 2009, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Total Film loved it

    by chuffsterUK

    4 out of 5 stars...

  • May 20, 2009, 12:51 p.m. CST

    "Even though she's half Korean and not Japanese"

    by HapalongCassidy

    Harry, you mean like how you call your wife "Yoko", even though she's Korean and not Japanese?

  • May 20, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    I can't tell by your reviews whether I'll like it or not

    by CherryValance

    I agree with you about half the time. *shrug* I usually go by Capone. So we don't really have similar tastes but I respect your opinion. Reading your reviews lately, I just wanna offer that maybe we're getting too old for this shit. For example, I really liked Wolverine and reading your review after seeing it myself, I didn't agree with you, but I understood what you were saying. I've felt like that about many movies lately. I don't want to be bothered if I'm not interested and I'm not going to give anything the benefit of the doubt. If I think it's going to be shit I don't want to see it even if I'm a huge fan of the stars/director. Or if I'm just not interested, I don't feel that NEED to go anymore just to say I saw it. I didn't see Star Trek because quite frankly, I've never liked any Star Trek ever.</p> <p>The other downside is that it's difficult to get psyched about a movie and have it pay off. I chalk that up to having seen too many movies but I've seen nowhere near as many movies as you have. They become too predictable and you've got a mental catalog of hundreds that are better. So a while back I decided to try to not get excited about things. The fact is most people who are making movies today probably don't like movies as much as we do. So they don't CARE as much. They care about their checks and their careers but putting out a quality product is the concern of probably a precious few. In this case I hope Christian Bale cares. He has so far. If he stunk well then, everyone's gotta have a bad role I guess. Everyone else? Who knows.</p> <p>But I plan to see it tomorrow. I don't have too many bad vibes about it. Hopefully I'll get something out of it. But again I'm not getting excited about it, because I've learned it's not worth the letdown. The only movie for this year that I've let myself have expectations for is Public Enemies and I kinda already wish I hadn't.</p>

  • May 20, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    I hate to break it to the Chimp arguing in ALL-CAPS but.....

    by Kai_Mah'gra

    .....Scotland is not a country. Neither is Wales, or Nothern Ireland. Being a country implies that you have your own head of State and you own currency. Who's the President or Prime Minister of Scotland? Or put another way, who's face is on the currency that YOU use, you dumb douche? That would be your head of State (ceremonial figurehead or not) right there and that would be your country. Is there such a thing as Scottish currency? Scottish Highlandollars perhaps? The fact that the English let you have your own Parliament means nothing other than the fact that you've been dumb enough to fall for the same silly trick of 'autonomous' rule that they have been using to trick your small little minds into believing that you're an independent country ever since William Wallace last failed at actually making that a reality. Hint: you're not (an independent country - never have been); Ghana is independent. You know them? They used to be ruledby the British sovereign like you currently still are and then won their independence. Ditto India, Ditto the USA, and ditto a hatful of other former British colonies who all now have their own currency and more importantly their own heads-of-State. You, on the other hand have yet to do so. Ergo, you might as well be referred to as English since everybody that rules your 'country' comes from there (England). So it comes as a little rich that you're here arguing that dumb point in such a douchebag-ian manner.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    What's 100% Of 0, Shermdawg?

    by LaserPants

    Oh yeah, thats right, 0.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    UNION JACK = ENGLAND, SCOTLAND AND CANADA

    by BringingSexyBack

    Amirite?

  • May 20, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    BSB!

    by LaserPants

    I knew I could count on thee to bring the Truth -- T2 = Suck Itself.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    You liked Twilight, Harry. Your cred is shit.

    by IL_Deuce

    So... I'll go in, watch the movie and make my mind up on my own.<BR><BR> The only reason I read your shit anymore is to see what kind of inane banter you're going to regale us with next.<BR><BR> It's like watching a train wreck.<BR><BR> A big, gingery, geeky trainwreck.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Well I'm going to see it.

    by Rommel Catuncan

    I know it's not going to be the original story that Kyle explains to Sarah- how they worked in the camps, how John Connor taught them how to fight, to storm the camp etc. It's disappointing when it turns out different than you expected, like Obi-Wan's story to Luke in Star Wars. You get expecations (lasers). Oh well...

  • May 20, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    I see what you did there.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 20, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Correct me if I'm wrong...

    by danthemagnum

    but isn't the resistance supposed to have basically won the war until the 800 is made?

  • May 20, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Here I thought the Brits had bad teeth from drinking

    by Stuntcock Mike

    the shit polluted water from the River Thames over several generations.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    LaserPants, I may regret this...

    by MurderMostFowl

    But I'll ask... why do you hate T2 again? I think it is not only a compelling story, but brilliant in how it parallels T1, yet tells an entirely different story. You could practically run them side by side for alot of it.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    The Underlying Truth Of Harry's Review

    by LaserPants

    He wasn't paid to write a good one, didn't get any free schwag or nothin'! OH, THE INHUMANITY!!!

  • May 20, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    DONKEY BALLS

    by Flapjacktits

    BIG GREEN ONES ...is what this sounds like!

  • Give this franchise to someone who knows how to make an Epic Future War Movie before it's too late.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Stuntcock Mike

    by The Dark Shite

    Yeah, 'cause everyone lives in London & we don't have reservoirs. Actually, we walk all the way to London & scoop the water up in our pasty hands:-).<p> Ok, I'm off to bed. If you see a mad scotsman, call him a ginger cunt from me. Cheerio & shit.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    river thames is in london

    by scotsman75

    what r u on about dick head

  • May 20, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    HOLD UP.

    by HoboCode

    There's a Director's cut of Alien Resurrection?!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Laserpants

    by Droid

    I found your baseball.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    LaserPants - he DID get free swag.

    by vic twenty

    A Terminator Head from McG himself. Hoping to buy that good review that never came.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    Director's cut of Alien Resurrection?!

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Where and how much?

  • May 20, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Hmm....

    by AmericanMovieFan

    We should always take Harry's reviews with a grain of salt. I hate to say it, but he's saying (much more viscerally) what all the other critics I've read are saying. For something that's been built up to over the past 25 years or whatever, it's such an average forgettable summer popcorn flick that it's angering on some level for fans of the original 2 movies. But you know what? What the hell did any of you expect? James Cameron WAS the Terminator franchise. That was all him. Who else has the ability to combine action, special effects and a heart? Think about all his "action" movies, save for True Lies, which was a spoof. They're all relatively light on action, keeping the violent moments memorable because they're used sparingly. We all knew from the trailers that this was Transformers with a different time line and cast. Why are any of you disappointed? And do I honestly believe Harry is so petty as to give a film a bad review because the producers didn't give him a rub and tug? Sadly, I kind of am...Not to the point that it makes or breaks his reviews, but I can see it. Harry's folksy "when I was a kid..." schtick is getting old. He uses a similar model for every review, so suddenly every movie is personal for him. Hence, the intense reactions to everything in which someone either had made love to him or raped him with very little in between. Harry, much as I like the idea of a fan becoming a successful critic, I think it's time you took some lessons from professional" reviewers on how to be fair and balanced and look at stuff objectively rather than personally. What good is a review if it's based on your own tastes? It's one reason I've lost respect for Ebert. All the big names of the critic circle suddenly think that they can write a review as if they're talking to their buddy. The style is engrossing, but eventually the audience will see it's not a review, but an opinion. And opinions are like ass holes...EVERYBODY's got one.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Alien Resurrection DC

    by Rommel Catuncan

    It's in the Quadrilology, as far as I know.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    PLANT!!!!!!!!

    by Dolmes

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    Aliend Resurrection DC

    by Droid

    is in the box set dvd that was released years ago. It's no different. Just a few minor extended scenes from memory.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    harry, welcome back to the Asylum

    by zapano

    see? it feels good to rant

  • May 20, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    AR DC DVD

    by Rommel Catuncan

    Yeah, it's mainly a different opening scene with a goofy bug squash gag, a reference to Newt and some other stuff I can't quite remember because it wasn't much. With bad sound.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Cotton McKnight you too...

    by MurderMostFowl

    I think your understanding of T2 is way off. There is an art to T2 that you have missed. I think it is because you weren't really a fan or study of T1. The truck being liquid nitrogen is an exact parallel to the gasoline truck from the first Terminator. <BR><BR> It was indeed fortuitous that it happened, but really did it stop the T-1000? No. Just like in the first movie when it didn't stop the T-800.<BR><BR>And as for the terminator learning to be "cute". .. you're merely picking points on what is based on deeper symbolism for: fatherhood , what sacrifice means, how humanity might be able to be expresses through something inhuman, etc.<BR> T:SCC explored this brilliantly ( at times ) with their T-1000.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Nothing Personal Harry...

    by THE TRUE PINBACK

    ...but are you so pissed off becuase you REALLY didn't like the movie, or are you sooo angry because you guys were forced (somehow) to sit on your hands and hold YOUR reviews back a couple of days whiole the big-dog industry trades got to put their two cents worth in before you? I seems to be hgappening a lot lately!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    After Reading the Review...

    by blhotz

    All I got was this movie was extremely bad because of lack of character development. Um... HELLO, we ALREADY know most of the characters and this is obviously an Action/Special-Effects driven movie. Something tells me Harry isn't coming completely clean on why he hates this movie so much...

  • May 20, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Harry hated it???

    by RobertBaron

    This is now a must see for me and is certainly a Best Picture nom lock. It will also probably be the best action movie of the decade and will shitkick all over T1 & 2

  • May 20, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Harry hates T4? - Surely, it's not a surprise?

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    His article should be renamed "I'm loyal to JJ. So I hate Terminator 4"

  • May 20, 2009, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Harry, You CRIED AT ARMAGEDDON!!!

    by jgmamma0

    & you gave an initial positive review for your Madison Square/Arensio Hall influenced of GODZILLA. I remember you loved the animal crackers scene in ARMAGEDDON!! I just had to bring it up.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Accents

    by jeffv

    (Why am I getting into this?) Just because Britain is not a country doesn't mean you can't say "a British accent". "A British accent" would mean "some accent that appears to be one of those that is common within the constituents of Britain." It does not imply there is a single British accent or that Britain is a country. You drew that conclusion yourself. You make the same point about "American accent" (i.e. that there is not a single American accent). Why is it necessary that the word refer to a country? In fact, I'm pretty sure almost no country has a singular accent. One could have said Western accent, European accent, Asian accent, etc. meaning that the person couldn't narrow it down to a specific country or locale but has a general idea of some vague area it might've come form. There are about 40 different accents in the (non-American) region I grew up in, and still people refer to them collectively in an arbitrary way. I don't get worked up about it.<BR><BR>p.s. I guess that Moon Bloodgood scene was edited out, huh?

  • May 20, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    The lighting guy totally f*cked this flick.

    by Squashua

    I called i.t

  • May 20, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    jgmamma0

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Your kidding about that Armageddon shit right?

  • May 20, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Well dang, Harry...

    by duct tape wallet

    I think you're being too subtle. Tell us what you really think!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    What I Hate About T2

    by LaserPants

    1) It completely betrays the premise and context that the first on set up -- now instead of apocalyptic survival its about maintaining the middle class family unit. 2) The badass general of the future turns out to be a whiny teen with a severe father complex who likes Guns n Posers. 3) The Terminator inexplicably becomes a father figure instead of what he's supposed to be - an unstoppable robot assassin from the future. 4) The violence is toned down, but the family friendly light comedy and one liners are ratcheted up. And that doesn't even touch the glaringly RETARDED plot holes and flaws in logic like: A) Why does Early 90s CGI man bother to torture Sarah Connor to call for her son when he can mimic her voice and body? A trick he pulls not more than 10 seconds later???? B) If no metal can go through time travel... how come liquid metal can??? You could explain Arnie coming through by being covered with skin, but not the T-1000. <br><br>Anyways, these are just a few things about T2: WE WUB WOO WOBODADDY that suck. I could continue, but, why bother? Please feel free to read any of my previous posts on the subject of The Most Overrated Movie Of All Times -- T2: WAAAAAAAH!!! <br><br>And again, I can totally understand why young people like it -- its probably one of the first movies they saw and that can have a powerful appeal. I also understand the powerful appeal of trash -- I like a ton of trashy, awful movies too. BUT, T2 is JUST that -- Trash. Don't fool yourselves into thinking that its anything more than a competently made, but completely stupid, grade B movie on a GIGANTIC budget. Thats it. Expensive, unintentionally hilarious, trash.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Terminator 4 anally raping JJ's Star Trek at the BO!

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    I can now see this movie, beating JJ's shitfest Star Trek at the Box Office.<br> <br> Opening weekend - Wolverine beat JJ's Star Trek ffs. HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    danthemagnum IIRC from T1 they Reese said

    by MurderMostFowl

    They ( the resistance ) were beginning to win. That the terminators were even created to resemble humans ( with rubber bodies ) was the first admission that things weren't going well and that they needed to infiltrate. <BR><BR> The T-800's start to turn the tide against the humans. But we don't know objectively how well the humans were doing over all.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    This talkback really needs...

    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    an argument about accents - cause that would be great!!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Wait wait wait

    by I am_NOTREAL

    One of Cameron's wives left him for a woman? Which of the 5 was that? Bigelow? I did not know that.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    LaserPants = Professional

    by Stuntcock Mike

  • May 20, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Well, I think Bigelow was just tired of the beatings really.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    She made some badass films herself actually.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    PRASIE BALE FUCKING UR LIGHTS N 09

    by Trannyformers_Apologist

    I thought Bale told McG that the story ...has...to.. be.. there...or he won't do it..RIGHT?<P>That the script could be done as a one man play and hold up on its own with out the explosions.....<P> Is that not what somebody said...who the fuck said that.....McG? <P> Yet all I read from the critics is how the action is great but the story and character development is not there.<P> WHAT A BUNCH OF MOTHERFUCKING BULLSHIT! <P> ALL PRAISE LORD BALE AND THE ON GOING STRUGGLE FOR PROFESSIONALISM fuck the slack jawed amateur Hulberts of this nation!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    MC-FUCKING- G..Told you so..

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

    This waste of time hasnt made ONE good fucking flim..and yet fucking people and fanboys seem to forget this fact everytime his name pops up on a new film...

  • May 20, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Star Trek revived, Terminator destroyed

    by MattmanReturns

    First Sarah Connor canceled, and now everyone's saying this movie sucks bad (I'll see for myself to be sure... but I'm not optimistic).

  • May 20, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    And Harry I generally think your're full of shit...

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

    but this was a decent review

  • May 20, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW?!?!

    by ebonic_plague

    Laserpants... I hate to tell you, but between this and Watchmen, you're trolling 0 for 2. You're a nice guy... but that don't cut it. <p> Days like this, I really miss ChickenGeorge VII.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Cameron

    by veritasses

    Jim Cameron understands the classic hero's arc and knows how to write a compelling story about all the dimenions of heroism better than any filmmaker. There are filmmakers who have a better eye and are more creative or who shoot more exhilirating actions scenes and there are filmmakers who know how to push performances out of actors better etc. But Cameron wins the prize telling stories about heroes... to the point that even the supporting characters in his films show different aspects of heroism... <BR><BR> Anyone who wants to take on the Terminaor franchise needs to understand that it's not about coming up with better special effects, bigger action sequences, more bleak visions of the future or manufacturing stories with surprise "twists" etc. Taking on Terminator means writing compelling characters (various heroes in this case) and giving us a reason to really f'n care about their journey. Anything absent of this simply isn't going to hold up.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    In Terminator 3...

    by TheMcflyFarm

    you loved the idea of a machine sent back in time to ensure the preservation of skynet? You mean THE SAME EXACT FUCKING PLOT FROM THE FIRST TWO MOVIES???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

  • May 20, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    This film is awful because AICN ruined the ending

    by May

    AICN ruined the original ending http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36947 This film would be much better if McG used the original ending. (Sadly, AICN ruined it) http://scifiwire.com/2009/05/mcg-comes-clean-reveals-t.php

  • May 20, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Hey, I don't know that it was Bigelow

    by I am_NOTREAL

    Don't wanna start any rumors, someone up there posted that little tidbit about Cameron and said it was pre-Titanic, I was just doing the math. Point Break is still one of the most fun dumb movies ever made. If half of the movies that labor to be smarter were anywhere near as good, movies in general would be so many times better.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    No offense, Harry, but...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...I really don't pay much attention to your opinion anymore. I stopped caring when you sold out to the studios who would scratch your size XXXXXL ass. I just read your reviews for a few spoilers now. <p>I think that we are all pretty much resigned to the fact that your opinion is decidedly slanted anyway.</p> I do agree with you about 50% of the time. However, that means that I disagree with you 50% of the time too.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    DAMN!.....

    by mastes360

    ...it must be bad if Harry hates it!.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST

    If Harry hates a movie...

    by Volllllume3

    ...then it must really, really, REALLY FUCKING SUCK ASS

  • http://tinyurl.com/4r2f8c This film would be much better if McG used the original ending. http://tinyurl.com/oxkz2o

  • May 20, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    The Brain

    by HoboCode

    Are you sure you're not thinking of Alien 3? Wh ywould Newt come up at the beginning of Alien Resurrection? It takes place about 1,000 years after Aliens and Alien 3.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    John Connor was a bit of a badass as a teenage bastard in TERMIN

    by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak

    Funniest line in review! So Edward Furlong was Badass? Must have missed that!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    IT'S OFFICIAL!!! BIGELOW IS AN ÜBERDYKE!!!

    by Droid

    Spread the word! <p>I still maintain that she should've made this. Not some talentless turd who calls himself McG.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Harry...a suggestion...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Your current "audience" seems to be confined to a small group of angry, foul-mouthed, middle-aged fanboys. They whine and complain about EVERYTHING. Maybe you should redirect this website in a way that might attract a larger fan base?

  • May 20, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    LaserPants

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Terminator 2 was more than 'competently' made. I'm sorry, you're just talking absolute horseshit. I know you don't like the Terminator being programmed to learn about emotion but seriously man, if you can't realise how brilliant the actual filmmaking in Terminator 2 is there is absolutely no hope for you. <p> I realise i'm wasting my breath. You think Terminator 3 is a better film than T2.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Henceforth, he shall now be known as CHRISTIAN FALE.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    For The Rant...was all for naught.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    Now you know how some of us feel about Star Trek, Harry...

    by Bones

    Star Trek, to some, was a complete betrayal. Not so much the story, but the failed potential of the entire endeavor. The new Star Trek was a collection of cribbed moments, scenes and dialogue from other, better sources that was directed through a window of such mediocrity that the any hope of enjoyment was constantly undercut.<p> Captain Kirk's birth? Would have been great, had there been any kind of geography to the battle or had the interior of the Kelvin not obviously been a rehabbed warehouse (complete with concrete structures, large open spaces that make no sense in a spaceship, iron girder-work and refrigerator rooms turned into shuttle entrances).<p> In fact, the whole design aesthetic is ridiculous, mixing modern or old technology and environments and "futuristic" settings that might have worked in Firefly or Star Wars, but look ridiculous in a Star Trek setting.<p> A lot of the special effects are bad, like the Doctor's horrible Photoshop Eyes in the beginning, the monsters on HOTH and the interior of the villain's ship. The nausea inducing camera work. The badly designed shots. The Beer Vats that appeared in rooms for no reason, like Uhura's listening post. And I haven't even gotten to the meat of the film.<p> Cadet/Captain Kirk is an idiot and a dick. Chris Pine doesn't imbue Kirk with any sort of emotional arc through the film and he is constantly being rewarded for his being a Prick.<p> Quinto's laughable performance as Spock is groan-worthy--constantly becoming Sylar at every possible turn. As written and performed, there is very little if any of the character of Spock in him, culminating his blood-thirsty revenge upon the Romulans. Nice.<p> The rest of the characters are so underdeveloped or underused that they basically get a set-piece each to do something, anything that would explain why they are in the film at all--and all are undercut by those scenes as well.<p> Scotty is a joke who really must be a miracle-worker as he can do something that has never been done ever in the history of Star Trek--transporting from a stationary planet to a ship hours away--at Warp. Do they even bother for Scotty to use the most powerful Transporter ever developed? No--they use a fucking shuttle Transporter...which is funny, since I didn't think that Shuttles had transporters--and if they did shouldn't the ship be at warp, trying to catch up with the Enterprise? Other than that, Scotty is only used as comic relief and that mainly consists of regurgitating a classic line or interacting with his midget Chewbacca.<p> Uhura, while expanded from her original role in the end is only Spock's girlfriend. That's it. That's her role. She does move the plot along when she overhears something at Starfleet Academy--but really she only exists to corroborate Kirk's theory, to have a cute little spat with Spock so she can be on the same ship with her boyfriend and to kiss said Boyfriend and be reduced to the "Girl Back Home" during the final fight.<p> Chekhov, rather than just be the eager young Ensign of the original show is now Wesley Crusher with an accent that is even more ridiculous that Walter Koenig's. His primary function in the movie is to be more of an annoying wunderkind that Wil Wheaton ever was (No wonder WW loved this movie--the pressure is finally off him) and to accidentally kill Spock's mom.<p> Sulu is basically John Cho, except when he gets to do stunts. There is nothing to his character, at all.<p> The performances of Kirk's parents were decent, but outside of JTK's naming, not particularly memorable. Sarek and Pike are actually interesting and giving nuanced performances--so of course they are bit players with only a handful of scenes. And then there is poor Nero--the villain. The villain who is so mundane he can't enunciate anything. The villain who waits around for 25 years doing nothing, when if he knew so much about Spock could have attacked him at anytime during his childhood. The villain who's "mining vessel" is so huge and loaded with weapons that easily destroys 47 Klingon ships and the Kelvin. The villain--who's entire motivation can't be bothered with in the film and has to be explained in a comic book.<p> Don't get me started on the Enterprise, which up until this film was treated as a character--and was shown in shots that actually lasted more than a few seconds. Or the design of the ship, or the previously mentioned use of industrial locations to stand in for not only the bowels of the ship--but seemingly every room that wasn't the bridge. To see the "32rd century" Starfleet uniforms in obvious 20th/21st century settings kept pulling me out of the film.<p> And the story itself, borrowing heavily from Star Wars (all versions, including the horrendous Prequels), The Lost in Space film from 1998, various Star Treks and every Joseph Campbell-influenced piece of Pap of the last half century.<p> In short (way too late, I know) I hated this film in the same way Harry hated Terminator Salvation--and just as I have been amazed at how fans have flocked to that film, Harry will watch, horrified, as fans love this new film.<p. Revenge is a dish best served cold. <p> (sorry if this is a repost)

  • May 20, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    As long as it's better than T3...

    by AtomicRoboticZombieWearwolf

    ...I'm in! That movie killed me- and should have been the nail in the coffin for Terminator films. Arnie slipping on a pair of Elton John sunglasses after the "talk to the hand" moment?...horrendous shit indeed. The only saving grace was the last 10 mins in the bunker.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    RE: ChickenGeorge VII<P>Word.

  • You say that if someone who loves the first two terminator movies likes Terminaotr Salvation, something is wrong (paraphrasing here)... I say the same thing to you regarding Indiana Jones. Perhaps your expectations were too high. And regarding your comments about Bale not giving a shit, if there's anyone who DOES give a shit when they're making a movie, it's him. He was the one who nabbed Nolan for a rewrite of the shitty first draft. And your comment about the action being shot by second unit??? Um, a good majority of blockbusters are handled that way. So nice try trying to take another pot shot at McG. But as usual you sometimes fumble over your own words. You didn't like it... fine. But resist those comments about saying that there is something "wrong" with someone who is a terminator fan and likes this new installment. You're no better than the worst dickhead talkbackers you complain about when you say shit like that.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Laser--you stupid fucking cunt

    by Six Demon Bag

    you need to understand that films existed BEFORE 2003. fucking jackass! enjoy your fucking film, i know itll be hard to watch thru your come-crusted eyes. you know nothing about film. feel free to answer any questions from previous posts, BTW

  • May 20, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST

    the oops I missed the screening award goes to:

    by wallysalt

    Variety's two-fisted reviewer John Anderson! http://theproblemisyou.wordpress.com/

  • May 20, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST

    mostexcellentninja

    by DrMorbius

    You must REALLY hate T2 then!! Gobble away!!!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Laser--FUTURE FUCKING WAR is pointless

    by Six Demon Bag

    reese's and arnold's monologues in T1 and T2 respectively have more emotional impact and gravitas than this entire film. do you still think you're the "big winner"?

  • May 20, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    No, Stuntcock Mike, I am not kidding...

    by jgmamma0

    do a search on the site for Harry's review on ARMAGEDDON. I actually do not hold this review against Harry...because as a long time reader that review is quintessial Harry Knowles...And I platonically love him for that. I just found it interesting that he brought up the Animal Crackers scene when I remember him raving about the scene in his review. And of course the crying.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Blomkamp is the future

    by NotEnoughBiehn

    of intelligent sci-fi. This film is tiddlywinks

  • May 20, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Time for bigger,better...and orginal franchises to shine!

    by Tnugent

  • May 20, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Terminator Salvation > Star Trek

    by cinemixtape.com

    Nobody's performance in TS is as utterly shitty as Nimoy in the new Star Trek. I can't speak to his previous work, but judging from the new flick... he's fucking terrible. Stop deluding yourselves. If Salvation is a little boring, Star Trek put me to fucking sleep.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by DrMorbius

    With a nick like that why do you type WITH A BRITISH ACCENT?

  • May 20, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    They should do another one...

    by MJohnson

    And have it tri-directed by McG, Ratner, and Uwe Boll....

  • May 20, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    What no MCG blowjob here

    by genrefanboy

    So AICN give JJ & co group blowjobs then say his movie is great when its total trash and this review sounds like it was written for Star Trek BEFORE the BJ's started!!!! and now McG refuses to pander to AICN so they trash his movie. Yeah right I can give this review credibility......

  • May 20, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Terminator:Salvation

    by DrMorbius

    Its not your Fathers Terminator!!!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Asimov--

    by Bones

    I would have said more in the Star Trek rant page--but it became such a huge pissing match between the few of us who didn't like it and those stalwart defenders who love the taste of Jonestown Kool-Aid, there wasn't any place or reason to continue.<p> Now Harry knows what it was like for us. And I say either "Knowing is half the battle" or "Revenge is a dish best served cold".

  • May 20, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Do a search for Harrys reviews of...

    by chuffsterUK

    ...End Of Days.He did two,yes two...

  • May 20, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Time for bigger,better...and orginal franchises to shine!

    by Tnugent

    lol...i must of pressed enter! Anyhow I'm on board with you Harry, I'm saving my $20+ and finishing up The Burning Skies(McG and McBay hands off) this weekend!!!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Damn you McG

    by --- Emperor ---

    Guess what? McG has now officially joined the likes of Michael Bay, M.Night Shyamalan and Uwe Boll: Welcome to your new found company of incompetent Film Makers who still get work in hollywood. You are in most deserving company. Now, damn you to hell!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    SpiceyBiscuit

    by DrMorbius

    I will NEVER forgive Harry (a.k.a. Oily Mitt) for shitting in your eyes! I just can't!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    LaserPants

    by slone13

    <p>1) RE: completely betraying the premise and context that T1 set up. Completely incorrect. And what the fuck are you babbling on about with this “maintaining the middle class family unit” crap? Did you hear that phrase in your socio-economics class?</p> <p>2) You’ve got it backwards. The whiny teen (sans any “father complex” btw) actually becomes the badass general of the future. As we see quite clearly in the opening shot with an old scarred John on the battlefield. And where did you get John Connor’s love of Guns n Roses from? His friend was the one wearing the Guns n Roses shirt.</p> <p>3) Nothing “inexplicable” here. In fact, it’s actually explained quite well. The Terminator is still an unstoppable robot assassin from the future. But the badass general of the future reprogrammed him to protect Sarah and his younger self this time. Pay attention.</p> <p>4) The violence is hardly toned down. The T-1000 gives us plenty of nice gruesome kills. And a few one liners does not a “family friendly comedy” make.</p> <p>A) This is the only accurate point you’ve made. The T-1000 did not need to have Sarah “call to John”.</p> <p>B) Why can liquid metal go through time? Because that’s how temporal displacement works. Duh.</p> <p>Class dismissed.</p>

  • May 20, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Canadians do not have an accent...

    by zinc_chameleon

    We speak Her Majesty's English perfectly, no matter where we come from in our vast northern land. And I have the Queen's word on it. As soon as we take over the Southern Colonies, I get to be the King of Albuquerque.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    OMG. There is so much awesome stuff on this site today.

    by hallmitchell

    Where do i start?

  • May 20, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Bones.

    by HoboCode

    While I didn't love the new Star Trek film as much as many people did, I was able to at least enjoy it. May I ask what your favorite Star Trek film is? Becasue I'm pretty sure many of the faults you found with the new film can be found in that one as well. Easily.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    HoboCode

    by Rommel Catuncan

    There's a reference to Newt in AR when they're holding up the flash cards to the clone Ripley and they show her a picture of a young blonde girl and she starts weeping a bit, remembering something from her past, but can't quite remember. I say it's a "reference" because it does have to do with Newt but they don't mention her (and it was strangely a character moment that the movie needed more of but they deleted).

  • May 20, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Stuntcock Mike

    I always thought she had a Point Break sequel up her sleeve somewhere. She missed the boat, and the Fast And Furious films stole the boat. Gloriously, I might add.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Harry also liked 'Lady in the Water'

    by BGDAWES

    Had to join in on the fun here gentlemen; this is turning into a nice little bash Harold TB - haven't had one like this in a good long while. <br> <br> I don't think anyone has mentioned Harry's review of 'Lady in the Water'. Here are a few 'doozies' from that gem: <br> <br> "It is about breaking the real world down and placing it in a ludicrous bit of bedtime illogic. Can you handle that? ... Can you play like a little girl talking to a best friend naked in the shower?" <br> <br> "That said, I fucking loved it." <br> <br> Well done Harold, we can always count on you to trigger a geekquake... <br> <br> Anyone care to post Harry's Godzilla review? Maybe he'll reverse himself again with this one, who knows...

  • May 20, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    There is a British accent!

    by gunstar

    Her Maj the Queen speaks with it :o) Oh and all seriousness Received Pronunciation is the closest thing to a British accent.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    HARRY HAD TO TELL US HE GOT A GIFT FROM MCG...JESUS

    by kidrobot71

    Christ on a crutch Harry you took Nearly two pages to get into you're review because you had to tell us all the copies of Terminator you have, what it all meant to you, that you got a gift from MCG, what your wife was doing...ENOUGH. OH and how about reviewing a movie without giving away EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED!! Man I always knew you were a bad writer but you just can't do anything but stroke yourself and be self important. Anybody else ready for this site to go down?

  • May 20, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Bones - I'm mostly with you

    by Cedar_Room

    I didn't fall for the idea that JJ's Star Trek was amazing, although thought it was far from the abomination you did (I actually liked the design of Kirk's dad's era as an example). I posted the problems I had with it in another TB - and I shall now cut and paste them here just to be a dick: <p> Old Man Spock - Nimoy is just too fucking old. He was like a talking corpse and I was just waiting for his false teeth to fall out onto Kirk's shoes. <p> The crazy bug monster on the ice planet. Just no need for it whatsoever. Take a moment to slow things down and have Kirk actually do something to prove he is intelligent and resourceful rather than just fall over and be found by Dr Exposition who conveniently is in the exact right place in the whole universe at the exact right time to save him and tell him exactly what is going on and what needs to be done. <p> Screen flares. I read this was because JJ thought the future was so bright it couldn't be contained or some shit. It took me out of the moment and kept reminding me I was watching something on a set that had been recorded into a camera. I much preferred the early stuff with Kirk's dad - that Star Trek world looked very real, lived in and entirey in keeping with the older films. I would have liked them to have kept this look but instead they went for the Apple Store Enterprise. Better than the fakeness of the SW prequels of course, but just take a hint from the original Star Wars - people loved that because it was dirty and grimy and felt real even though it wasn't. <p> Simon Pegg in the tube. Again just another pointless bit of gubbins to keep the tempo ridiculously high. Its OK to have moments where people aren't running around at full tilt JJ. Just have Pegg materialise in a tank and hey presto you've got a nice little gag without some boring "rescue him from a big tank of something" nonsense. We know he's not going to die because we've seen the trailer where he stands on the bridge. That hasn't happened yet ergo stop all the fucking around. <p> Why the fuck was Winona Ryder in old age makeup chosen to be Spock's mum? What was wrong with an older actress? Is this to set up "flashback" scenes in future films? I can think of no other reason. <p> All in all I thought the film was good and shows promise for future films but lessons need to be learnt. Someone compared this film to X1 - lets hope the next film is X2 levels of awesome. I thought X1 was pretty boring but it set everything up to really go crazy in the sequel. I think theres enough talent on show in the this film to think theres a good chance this will happen in the sequel. BUT lets be clear - this Star Trek is no better than a good 7/10 film. They should, and hopefully CAN, do better next time.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    So much for the criticism that Harry loves everything!

    by hallmitchell

    Go Harry. You may have just stopped me from seeing this. I wasn't going to go. Then the trailer blew me away. Now I'm not going. I also didn't go to Wolverine on your advice.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    Terminator:Salvation

    by DrMorbius

    Lighting.....Professional<P>Directing....Shoddy<P>Acting (Bale)...Atrocious!!!

  • May 20, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    We all know Bigelow is better than Cameron anyway

    by Stuntcock Mike

    That's why he was constantly beating the shit out of her.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Bones!

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    "and to accidentally kill Spock's mom." I laughed out loud at this...good post, man. Even if T:S totally sucks, it'll still probably be light years ahead of Star Trek...hell, I liked Wolverine more, and that movie was a mess. At least T:S looks like it'll have some cool new robots...

  • May 20, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    jgmamma0. Jesus Christ.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    I feel dirty for reading that.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Reads like an angry nerd rant/blog

    by boardbrtn

    This "review" brings up a few points that feel more like a review of a film rather than a rant. Whenever a director goes into making a movie like this, or Star Trek, or Indiana Jones, or some huge geek sensation, they are always "feared" that they will bastardize this loved product. Harry brings up few valid arguments (even if I disagree) and spends most of his time talking about how Terminator is so much more than really well done action and good IDEA. The story lines have NEVER worked in Terminator movies as emotionally heavy. They work to move the story along and the idea of the machines taking over is REALLY cool, but who wasn't annoyed by John in T2? Why give a shit that Kyle loved Sarah in the first one? THAT was a joke. He comes back in time and Sarah thinks he's some crazy bastard who thinks she's hot. She realizes he's telling the truth, and after BARELY knowing eachother I'm told to believe that Kyle and Sarah love each other? Fuck that. I can stretch my imagination sure, but don't try to tell me that Terminator was a love story and not some big, bad ass, sci-fi action film. I don't believe it. I will say that T2 does happen to get more emotion from me (I like the whole Arny acting like a dad to John) but who would rather watch John giving high fives to a T-800 instead of the totally awesome chase scene with the semi-truck and the motorcycles. The most succesful interpretation of the emotion that lies within Terminator universe was in Sarah Connor Chronicles, but that's dead so what now? Terminator Salvation is NOT as good as one or two. I found the action and story more interesting in this than the third one. Harry's incorrect in saying that Sam Worthington does a bad job; he doesn't. In fact he has more charisma than anyone else in the film. It is NOT Connor's movie, it's Marcus Wright's, make no mistake. Yelchin is pretty good, though I didn't really see how he would grow into the Kyle of the original Terminator. The action is SO much fun and I found myself grabbing my hair and shouting in excitement at the cool factor of several scenes. I didn't think Bale overacted much, maybe a little bit, but keep in mind he is a military man and he is wanting to come off as gruff. Look, Harrys going to catch a lot of shit for liking Twilight but not this (Twilight was complete trash). This is the second best summer movie thus far and I expect it will be the third best next week. After that, who knows... I expect more from you Harry. Next time less nerd rant, more objective review.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Gee Whiz Mr. Peabody

    by exyle

    That sure was badly written.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Apologies Dark Shite

    by DoctorWho?

    I feel ya.<p> I would drop the ban hammer on that multiple posting twat.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Happy 10th birthday, Jar-Jar Binks!

    by Chariowalda_Barbarossa

    Off topic, though not completely.<p> Commemorating the 10th anniversary of Phantom Menace Moriarty put up a quite spot-on article over at hitfix. So we know whom we have to thank for the mess this talkback is about.<p> http://tinyurl.com/itsallgeorgesfault

  • May 20, 2009, 2:19 p.m. CST

    a

    by Chariowalda_Barbarossa

  • May 20, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Edit button!!!!

    by Chariowalda_Barbarossa

    Damned, where are those spaces in the urls always coming from? I didn't put that there!<p> That "a" was my fault though.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Hate? You don't know the meaning of the word Harry.

    by alucardvsdracula

    I'd rather lance a tuma off my cock with a chainsaw than ever seeing this road kill ever-a-fucking-gain. Sitting through this abortion of film was akin to my ass was being fisted by a rusty spiked gauntlet. I’m just glad that this is the fourth movie in the franchise, and that the fuck awful Sperminator 3 managed to kill any enthusiasm for subsequent turds bearing the title “Terminator”. I still maintain the concept of a radioactive nuclear ravaged world where human beings are being gradually snuffed out and are forced to fight for their existence shouldn't be passed on as PG13 kiddy fodder (along with the toy, soft drink and burger king promotion) and should be treated with maturity and intelligence. James Cameron was the only person who could have pulled off the future war and he should have fought tooth and nail to keep this franchise untarnished and not have it pissed away by hacks like Jon Mostow and McG. If anyone of you fucking retards actually enjoyed this film then I’ll mail you my shit and bloodstained gauntlet.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:24 p.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by DrMorbius

    I looked up WANKER in the dictionary and there was a picture of YOU!! And you were WANKING off!<P>So now, why don't you BUGGER OFF!!!

  • May 20, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Harry needs a nap after taking a terminator turd...

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    out of his ass. The question is does the bathroom still stink?

  • May 20, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Trek much better than this B-Movie

    by crankyoldguy

    Saw screening, courtesy of a friend. It was like bigger-budget Sci-Fi Channel movie.Very lame. Watchable as a "B-Movie," yes. But no better than T3, which I didn't like that much. Hell, the Universal Hollywood Terminator attraction was better than T3 and this new one. Transformers 'Fallen' will have more heart than this did and that's a movie for kids, really. This is supposed to be "adult sci-fi?" Yeah, right.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Whats McG's phone number Harry?

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    I want to ask him what shit he was smoking when he made this travesty of a film.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Chariowalda_Barbarossa the spaces

    by MurderMostFowl

    The spaces are there on purpose. I believe it was originally intended to keep people from writing garbage and spamming and stuff. Keeps the board looking clean. <BR> This is why so many people use tinyurl.com here. <BR> if the board ever gets an overhaul, I can think of a million things to ass to it... ajax aware autorefresh being one of them. Editing, basic markup ( bold, italics, etc ) and quoting would be really nice, but I don't think this is stuff on Harry's mind. Arguably, some of the style of AICN is in its limitations

  • May 20, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    EAT SHIT HARRY

    by AgentCross

    You kiss the ass and rave about bullshit movies and then complain when we get good ones. I'm done with your reviews. They just can't be trusted, maybe they never could.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Terminator Stupidity

    by Champoozie_Jones

    Scotsman is showing us why most all people (including the English) want to forget that Scotland is part of the UK. Zing!<br> <br> I really doubt anyone is surprised by this. In fact the only thing I am really surprised about is that Harry actually wrote a negative review. I fully expected that he would soft-peddle it like he's done so often and spend the review making excuses for it instead of giving it the truly negative review it deserves. <br> <br> I find it amusing how many people thought simply because Bale was in this film that meant it was going to be good. Even the best of actors need a director who knows how to direct. Sorry, McG don’t fit that bill. He’s a 12 year old kid playing with his action figures. There’s no what-so-ever depth to the guy. I’m generally very critical of Harry’s reviews but he said it perfectly in this one when he said, “In both cases, it feels like children playing with material of which they haven’t the slightest grasp of. They can’t conceive of what actually made the material great to begin with. To them, it’s the props, the hardware, the most rudimentary iconography.“ <br> <br> Bale’s performance in this is just sad. The reason for that sad performance is that he didn’t have a director to reign him in when needed, or push him harder when it needed doing. McG does stuff because it’s fucking cool not because it’s what’s needed in the service of telling a great story. I was amazed to see Moriarty barely stop short of getting down and kissing the man’s feet when he interviewed McG a few days back; after all the negative things he’s said about McG in print. He did nothing but toss the man softballs instead of taking him task for what he’s doing with Terminator, as he’s done in print. What a disappointment. I’ll get my Hitfix elsewhere from now on. <br> <br> The real tragedy here is that most likely, the film is…….ok. Not great, not good, just passable enough to get a large enough audience to see it so that McG can keep making more films. We’ll see T5 and T6 and we’ll get more soulless spectacle with characters we couldn’t give a fuck about because that’s what McG does.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Harry - there's still 711's in Austin?

    by Crimson Dynamo

    Haven't been to Austin in decades, but they've been gone from Houston for a long time. I remember collecting the DC Slurpee cups as a kid

  • May 20, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    alien resurrection was....

    by JohnGaltShrugged

    a fucking masterpiece.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Terminator Salvation an insult to a great name.

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    No Schwarzenegger=no sale.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Law of Diminishing Returns

    by Continentalop

    This is why you don't make sequels, or at least not extend them past part 2. This is also the reason why I hope they don't make a Mad Max part 4.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Where is Brad Feidel??????

    by MANNZILLA

    His score was integral to the first two films. Why wasnt his sirvices secured for 3 and 4. Another reason to hate this film.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    HARRY LIKED THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT 2

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    CLOSE THREAD

  • May 20, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    And for the record

    by Continentalop

    Alien Resurrection sucked.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Say what you want

    by IAmLegolas

    but I bet this movie's better than VAN HELSING.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    McG is trash..was there ever any hope for this?

    by alienindisguise

    No, of course not, because that dumbfuck cannot tell a story or direct for shit. Sounds like all the acting was Edward Furlong t2 bad. Fuck seeing this.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST

    alucardvsdracula, my address is.......

    by Stuntcock Mike

    1060 W Addison St Chicago, IL 60613, United States (773) 404-2827 I'll be waiting for your package.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Harry's impartiality

    by rivvorz

    Some of you are suggesting his review is swayed by lack of kick-backs, etc, but it agrees with lots of others over at RottenTomatoes. Everything he says rings true - which is sad for all of us, as this could have been great. I'll still see it this weekend, but with no expectations at all.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST

    WITH BLUEPRINTS LIKE

    by TheFlypaper

    Terminator 1 and 2 (and yes, even parts of 3) layed out before him, it's hard to believe McG couldn't build a better sequel. I'll see it regardless, but now I'll enter the theatre knowing it's going to be more of a letdown than a fresh start with promise. It's a shame. In more capable hands this probably would have been quite good. I think this one might kill McG's career.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    I get to watch the film in 6 hours WITH MCG

    by gotdane

    No joke...we'll see how it goes.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    i'm still sold

    by zom-bot.com

    0 ... personally i'm so tired of things being blown up that i don't even want them in my action movies anymore. even though the explosions in the dark knight were all pivotal i was still unmoved (mainly because i had seen the hospital blow up like 5000 times on tv before even seeing the movie)...explosions mean shit unless a major character dies or it eliminates something else from the playing field. so the thought of T4 being a good 'blow 'em up' flick means little to me. what i will see it for- as will most of us although we forget that this is why- is the mythos, the time travel paradoxes and the uber-cool creature design as well as i'm really excited to go see what's still practical fx in this one. as long as those things are intact, i will be pleased. i couldn't tell you the last time a character on screen 'moved' me anyway.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Not gonna hate on this movie or the director...... yet...

    by Han Cholo

    But it seems like it's increasingly appropriate to do so. I'll say this: I'm gonna pay ten bucks to see it, it better be better than Wolverine, plus that mute kid better not be a focus in the film. Formulaic bullshit aside, if this sucks, not only will I make McG give me my money back (Seriously, I'll go up to the fucker somewhere in Hollywood or Beverly Hills and tell him to give me my money back). I'm 6'2" so I don't think I really have much to fear....

  • May 20, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Harry and I are done professionaly

    by drompter

    Are you trying to trash my movie experience, Harry? That review was fucking distracting. You loved Twilight Harry, like it's been pointed out five hundred times already by other talkbackers. Are you professional or not?

  • May 20, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    McG is MY fucking Skynet

    by drturing

    A ruthless, insincere, utterly inhuman and emotionless deceiver who has gone back and tried to destroy that which I love with revisionist history. Who said some shit in an interview about how the theme of Terminator has something to do with whether or not Christopher Reeve was human. Which is still cracking me up. McG, let's fucking face it: you can't direct sports movies, or action movies. But you can direct 2 hr long commercials for garbage like adaptations of 70s tv shows. Give it the fuck up. You have no fucking clue what Terminator is or what it should be about.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Christian Bale

    by Palhaco

    "He’s got his own take on the material and it is BORING, UNINVOLVING, and without a single iconic moment. His performance is FLAT, and this is an actor I love on film, but not this time." Umm, when ISN'T Bale like this? What film was he not this way? (Yes, including the much-worshipped "Dark Knight".) This is very disappointing, but I can't say that I'm surprised about Bale's performance.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    NY Times

    by dahveed1972

    A.O. Scott actually seems to have liked it for the most part. At the very least, he seemed genuinely surprised that it wasnt a total piece of shit. To me that warrants a matinee. After a bonghit or two natch...

  • May 20, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    But Harry said he liked so-and-so...

    by skimn

    Critical opinion is just that. An opinion. And you know how that old saying goes. I've said it before, but the esteemed Roger Ebert stated in review that he hated The Thing as "barf bag movie of the year", and called Videodrome "the most unenjoyable movie he's seen". But, we can disagree, because that's HIS opinion, not mine. And in the end, thats all it is.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Brad Fiedel

    by chuffsterUK

    Retired from scoring movies. Brad Friedel still plays in goal...

  • May 20, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Whatever Hatchet haters

    by slayme

    Hatchet was a really fun movie to watch. It had great over the top violence and a good amount of comedy that actually worked. Next to 30 Days of Night it's my favorite horror flick of the last few years.

  • May 20, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    How can you people not see how bad this is?

    by drturing

    A Terminator movie with a huge budget, Stan Winston's work, Christian fucking Bale... And yet the reviews unanimously say that Bale's performance is weak and monotone, that there's a cute little token black kid who's MUTE (goddamn this is beyond hilarious), that one of the first lines of dialogue is "so that's what death tastes like"... And goddamn just wait till you see what happens at the end of the film. Bale or no Bale, a man I fucking worship and am kinda gay for, I wouldn't trust McG as far as I could drop him at my fucking feet headfirst so he stops spreading his douche butter all over my awesome toast.

  • May 20, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    sent wife for slurpee

    by radruss001

    "sent my wife into a 7-11 to get me a Slurpee cup for the TERMINATOR SALVATION movie" excercise yo. Did you not get invited to the press screening this time?

  • May 20, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    mute kid with props

    by zom-bot.com

    in any other movie it seems like that would be an element that harry would love....and he'd tell us about the golden age of silent film, and all of the silent chaplin and keaton-esque characters in movies that serve a greater purpose and represent the hand of fate or guardian angels or something with their 'always there when you need them, with tool in hand, thankless' personality. or he'd regale us with childhod memories about how he was a prop boy who was ordered not to speak on the set of some obscure straight to beta film his parents landed him a gig with in the 70's..<P>even in this movie it sounds like a decent running gag. T2 had far more impossible humor in it.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Fuck the Godzilla review,read the Episode 1 review!

    by chuffsterUK

    Right now... I’m at a loss of words. But I will try to voice some for you. Some spoilers may slip out over the course of this review, and I want to give you fair warning because quite frankly, I’m not able to be responsible for what I may type below because.... I currently have so much more to say than I can type in a night or two about this film. Consider yourself warned. You’ve been reading about my experiences leading up to this night for the last three and a half years. The anticipation, the hopes, the dreams, the terror... Could it live up to the mythology that I created in my mind around the films I grew up with? What am I going to write about this film now that I’ve seen it? Today and tonight while I waited in that monstrosity of a line, I had a fear.... A gigantic fear named JAR JAR BINKS. I’ve been terrified of this character since that night in Claridges in London back in August of last year when I read the script. I felt that he was very much an Alien Jerry Lewis clone, and that scared me to death. After all, what the hell is Jerry Lewis doing as the third main character in a Star Wars movie, right? When I read Moriarty’s review of THE PHANTOM MENACE, it scared me. You see, among all the people I knew that had read that script, only Moriarty and I agreed on Jar Jar. We liked him. But when Moriarty ‘had problems’ with him.... Well... ya know, I got scared. I began hedging my bets on whether or not I’d love this movie. Jar Jar was more evil and scary to me than Jaws, Linda Blair, that evil clown doll from Poltergeist, the carpet from THE SHINING and all of THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT. Jar Jar began representing the Otis (from Superman) of this new Star Wars film. But.... Guess what? Mesa Luved Him! When I first read Jar Jar’s scenes I was terrified because.... well whenever Jar Jar did something, I imagined the solitary focus being upon Jar Jar. That is not the case. There are other people, creatures, things going on at the same time. Not only that... But, I saw something in Jar Jar today that... well, I didn’t expect to see. The Gungans are a warrior based community, but ya know what? Jar Jar is a hippie. He doesn’t want to go to war. He doesn’t want to fight. He’s an awkward fella that probably wanted to be an artist or an actor, but was raised to believe he was a warrior. When he realized that... he started subconciously screwing up, trying to call attention to himself... or to be banned from his people so he could... Live the life of an independent soul. But lo and behold, he ends up being drafted into service by his customs and traditions to be dragged all over the galaxy by a pair of Jedi. This isn’t what he wants to do in life, but it is the path he is set upon. What’s bizarre though is that I saw a parallel between Jar Jar and Much, The Miller’s Son from THE ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD. Herbert Mundin, like Jar Jar, was saved then owed a life debt to Robin Hood. Then he is extremely goofy, not exactly funny, but he’s a goof. At the big fight at the end of the film.... Well, he’s clumsy and a bit stupid, but... he helps save the day, also like Planchet from THE THREE MUSKETEERS. In a way, I was a bit reminded of Jackie Chan’s battlefield antics, but as if it were Buster Keaton trapped out there, who’s dumb luck just manages to save him and make him a hero. Kinda like Chaplin in THE GREAT DICTATOR. I can’t believe I liked Jar Jar, don’t get me wrong, I don’t believe he’s the Best thing in the film.... far from it, but for some ghastly reason... I like the guy. But ya know... That’s just part of the film, a very small part. In a lot of ways, my brain is frazzled. I sat in that theater with a goofy smile on my face and my eyes and brain trying as hard as I could not to miss anything. When I read the script, I told people I know that the movie could go either way. This is the way I wanted that script to go. There was a lot of interesting tidbits cut out like Bail Organa’s supporting of Queen Amidala’s vote of no-confidence, and the moments where General Zod discusses the betrayl with Palpatine. There was the naming of C3PO scene gone. The point where Anakin tells Padme that he will marry her. (a scene that sent chills through me in the script, but that I could see being awful if it wasn’t performed just right.) Originally Jar Jar was to pilot the Bongo, Jar Jar had a scene where his butt caught on fire, and... his hi-jinks were much much more in the 3rd draft. By the way, I really dug Anakin too. For me, he was just a normal enthusiastic kid, which.... for me is terrifying because... Quite frankly it means any of us could become Darth Vader. This isn’t PECK’S BAD BOY, this is Andy Hardy going to the Dark Side! This kid represents Hitler as a child. Did Hitler run around stomping bugs, kicking dogs, soaking cats in gasoline and setting them ablaze.... Or did he draw and play? Well.... Anakin builds things, races and has a group of friends. He’s.... ultra-normal in a human sense. And I like that. And... There was always just a taste of Darth Maul. Something that I’m willing to bet disappoints a lot of Star Wars fans. But for me, there is a reason for Darth Maul’s brief time in the Star Wars universe. You see. He’s been training and training and training forever. Being conditioned to kill Jedi, but... he’s never once done it. He’s like a gun that has never been fired, never really having been tested. When he’s been given the mission to kill these two Jedi, it’s kinda like the first search and kill mission that a Green Beret goes on. He might be so eager for first blood that when he gets it.... He gets a bit too cocky. Everybody has always invested too much with Darth Maul, for me, he’s there to make Darth Vader look WAY cooler. Maul was a single minded pit bull, Darth Vader was the dark lord of the Sith.... If you build Maul to be waaaay too cool, then you take away from Vader. Maul served his purpose, he’s here to tell us.... “Dude, the clone wars are gonna be cool!” but not much else. Also, he’s there to make Obi Wan look like an utter badass, eh? I mean, come on... Ewan is like sooooo cool in this movie. I loved him. He is definately my favorite character of the film. Palpatine was fantastic. Sure, he’s there just a tidbit, but like Vincent Price’s Cardinal Richelieu in the old Gene Kelly THE THREE MUSKETEERS... wow.... He’s played with a thick foam of slyness, the fox, and man.... When he pats ol Anakin on the shoulder and says he’ll be following his career with much interest. Chills man. Total chills. As for characters like Ric Ollie and Captain Panaka... They are just set dressing. They don’t necessarily add or take away for me. They just exist here. I can’t wait to see this movie with a gaggle of kids some morning. This film does alot of utterly fantastic things, but there is a lot of room for improvement. Lucas’ characters need a bit more depth, but you know what... I feel a bit like Emperor Joseph II telling Mozart, to take out a few notes and it’ll be perfect. I am so sated by this first viewing that.... I’m pleased as punch. Relieved as can be. I’m a happy camper. After the film, it was 2:30am. Everyone and their brother filed out into the lobby and everyone began talking about the film. Some people, notably the guys wearing Darth Maul make up seemed let down. While others wore smiles etched into their faces. Others left, working their ways home where they could gather their thoughts and process exactly whatever it was that they had just seen. Me.... and my friends. We talked about the film till 6a.m. alongside the theater. I was quiet mainly. Listening to what people loved and hated about the film. People seem split on Anakin, some feel the Gungans are worse than Ewoks, others love them. Everyone wanted Darth Maul to kill 70 people (except for me) and people wanted less goofy stuff. Most everyone in the group that stuck around had a blast with the film, but had nitpicks here and there. Some in the group had no idea what they thought. They had steered clear of spoilers, had utterly no idea what to expect, and.... they had sooooo much to process that they were left with statements like, “I loved it when the light saber was stabbed in that door!” and “Ya know... Jar Jar wasn’t as bad as I thought, but he still sucked!” Where does this film stand against the earlier films. I’ll really be able to answer that in a year. After I’ve seen the film 20 times. And even though I knew just about everything that was going to happen.... I didn’t once the film started. I just let the movie take me. And it did. Now.... Now I’m left with the thoughts that about the next films. I’m not real sure of the importance of Naboo, but I’m willing to be that we’ll see a lot of damage here. Jar Jar and his people may not be around too long. His life debt has been payed, and he’s no longer tied to anyone. Will Darth Sidious take another apprentice before Vader.... Is Sidious the Emperor? Sure the next film will be romantic, but there is also a war waging. My god, I’m trapped in this. I’m so utterly love smitten. I was afraid tonight. Instead, I saw a really wonderful adventure. A fairy tale that told of a galaxy far far away. I guess I’m still a kid, because when I came home this morning... I didn’t update, I didn’t even go online. I just played with my toys. Holding them, and trying to figure out what their place in things were. I don’t know about you, but the whole Jedi Council pan at the end of the film.... Had a lot of forboding attached to it. And right now, I want to apoligize to the folks that hate this movie. I don’t. I genuinely loved it. Yes, I’m a STAR WARS fan. Yes, I overlooked the hilarity, which while I enjoyed it, I hope that it gets toned down to almost nothing in the coming films. I could feel the people in the room disliking elements of this movie. Afterwards I heard some people talking about a movie that was just a big fight between Darth Maul and Boba Fett and... I realized how that is what a lot of us have become. Why waste time with characters like C3PO, JAR JAR, WATTO, etc... Let’s just get to the meat. No veggies please. I want dramatics with the characters that interest ME! I don’t want all this silly stuff, I want three dimensional characters! That’s why you’re gonna love THE LORD OF THE RINGS that Peter Jackson is working on. Every complaint that STAR WARS fans have with this film, is not in Peter’s film. Peter is a fan, like us, that wants to take things to the next level, and ultimately... George is still at the same level he was at before. He’s still making popcorn confection like nothing you’ve ever eaten. It’s like the best bowl of Frosted Flakes that you have ever eaten. When you put in the bananas, added some sugar and.... you know what... You ate the whole box while watching your favorite Saturday Morning Cartoons (Scooby Doo, Space Ghost, Dungeons & Dragons, Spiderman and his Amazing Friends, Blue Falcon, etc). Sure he tells us that he’ll bring us a fine wine with an excellent banquet, but this time he just skipped to dessert. Will we get our meat and potatoes? Will we open up a fine Merlot? Will the story deepen? I’m willing to bet it will. I enjoyed this serving of Flintstones Vitamins. I’m going to see this film alot. But now, more than ever, I’m dying to see LORD OF THE RINGS. And... I’m dying to see this one.... again. It’s Star Wars. And I love it. No excuses, that’s just the way it is. Go.... Have fun.... be a kid again....

  • May 20, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    A Terminator movie with a MUTE TOKEN BLACK GIRL!

    by drturing

    HAHAAHAHAH. No fuckin way. Seriously. Was she put there for Pizza Hut fans? Or were the screenwriters like "man, how do you black children talk?"...<p> "I dunno, let's make her mute so it's like she's scarred by the intensity of this Children of Men movie we wanna rip off".<p> "Hey remember that time we made 7 figures writing cat puns for Halle Berry?"<p> "Yeah, let's do some more blow".

  • May 20, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    bale is flat

    by ciroslive

    McG gets some blame for that. A good director wouldve kicked Bale's ass into gear on the 1st day

  • May 20, 2009, 3:04 p.m. CST

    the phantom menace review

    by zom-bot.com

    should be printed IN FULL in the merriam-webster dictionary as the definition of SMARMINESS

  • May 20, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST

    It's got an 8.4 on IMDB

    by darthvedder81

    Granted that's with 3,000 votes but still it's not God awful.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    If you don't like Harry's opinions...

    by darthvedder81

    ...than what the f*ck are you doing reading "Aint It Cool News"? I'm not saying he's wrong or right about his opinion of the flick, just trying to give y'all some perspective here.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Go suck your own cock chuffsterUK.

    by drompter

    Episode 1 rocked.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    come 'terminate' you hunger at Pizza Hut

    by zom-bot.com

    you gotta remember though, the Dark Knight was sponsored by Domino's for christ's sake and i don't remember you guys bitching about that one. at least neither were mcDonald's or burger king fodder like- oh, i dunno- star trek?! (although the 'KING-ons' are hilarious and creepy)...these are the times we live in. at least pizza joints cater to the college audience and not the kiddie meals.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    drturing

    by chuffsterUK

    And yet the reviews unanimously say that Bale's performance is weak and monotone, that there's a cute little token black kid who's MUTE (goddamn this is beyond hilarious), that one of the first lines of dialogue is "so that's what death tastes like". No they don't-look up the meaning of the word"unanimously".

  • May 20, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Another quailty review from the creepy man-child

    by Col. Tigh-Fighter

    I actually want to see it more after that purile diatribe from the Ginger Godzilla. <p> This site makes me laugh (in a bad way) some times

  • May 20, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    drompter

    by chuffsterUK

    If i could do that,do you think I'd be on here wasting my time reading comments by wankers like you?

  • May 20, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    So McG's check didn't clear, eh Harry?

    by Rickey Henderson

    Rickey's still moderately excited for this movie. Shame they gave away the twist about Worthington's character though.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    BAM

    by Toilet_Terror

    Harry's death hammer falls on McG's head. McG rubs his head slightly and continues making Terminator films.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Someday McG's obituary will read

    by drturing

    McG, born Joseph McGinty, was found dead today in West Hollywood aged 54 after a tragic accident at a skatepark while he was attempting to do BMX tricks. Although he found early success directing music videos for men with soul patches and frosted tips which he parlayed into the stupid but fun Charlie's Angels, in later life McG decided he was some kind of auteur and after aborted attempts to make a Superman movie he was too chickenshit to get on a plane to make (no seriously, I'm not making this up) and Hot Wheels: The Motion Picture he directed the most forgettable ham handed sports movie in recent memory that made Friday Night Lights look like the work of Bresson. In a last ditch attempt to be a director who gets paid a lot of money, he conned everyone into thinking he could make a Terminator film, a film notable for its utter shittiness and for tying in the Terminator mythos with Pizza Hut and mute token minority children (in his biography, McG would assert that it was a clever cinematic reference to the girl in Jurassic Park 2 who does the gymnastics to kill a raptor, a moment he described as "when I saw cinema as truth, as an intense divine rapture"). Following the 69% boxoffice dropoff the second weekend for Terminator Salvation as word spread of its shittiness, Christian Bale was found weeping, determined to never again work with someone who got their start directing videos for Smashmouth. After failed attempts to get to the screen such not very loved properties as "Fastlane: The Motion Picture" and "The OC: Imax Experience" and "Sectaurs: Salvation" McG attempted to return to music videos, not realizing that budgets for such are now about $2000 and involves shooting ironic douchebags on cellphones. Sadly, perhaps too old to BMX, he tragically died Wednesday. He is survived by his family, but had no wife, although he did tell sources that during the making of Charlie's Angels Drew Barrymore's boob brushed against him twice, and he had found some killer fake nudes of Lucy Liu on AOL.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    chuffsterUK

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Good Christ!

  • May 20, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Despite usually avoiding reviews with spoilers,....

    by JDanielP

    ...I had to give Harry's review a read. Unfortunately, I couldn't take anymore, approximately half-way in. --I'll be looking for more reviews, as I had considered seeing the midnight movie. (McG, it appears that you have let me down, BIG TIME.)

  • May 20, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Stuncock Mike

    by chuffsterUK

    Was that good or bad?:D

  • May 20, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    I am so sick of people putting down coke

    by Continentalop

    Without blow many of Hollywood's best films never would have been made. Hell, the entire 70's New Hollywood Movement would be missing. <p> So instead of saying that maybe QT, McG or the screenwriters should do less blow, MAYBE we should be saying they should do more lines.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Bale's performance is weak and monotone

    by radruss001

    I never even saw "Dark Knight." Is it good? I am not a fan of the Ledger. One word "A Knight's Tale"

  • May 20, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Out of interest.

    by chuffsterUK

    In Eberts review,he reveals he's never seen `The Terminator`!

  • May 20, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    TSCC > T2???

    by Mrhazard

    Blasphemy or accurate???

  • May 20, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Actually ContinentalOp you're wrong

    by drturing

    blow + egos of the 70s who were angry and not apathetic about the Vietnam war and didn't want to recycle their comfortable middle class childhood by remaking the fuck out of everything was good. Coke and its bloated importance with people who talk on and fucking on about Joseph Campbell but have never read the Odyssey or the Bible and want to remake everything and come from an empty vacuous culture where there's a war going on they ignore but they think hours at Halo 3 make them able to viscerally represent darkness in life... Bad.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Fanboys

    by radruss001

    The actor playing Harry seemed more likeable than the real Harry...

  • May 20, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Hey drturing

    by Continentalop

    I'm not saying it is always good. I'm just saying you give me and 8-ball and I've got a pretty good chance of going home with a stripper.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    PWESENTS! MEESA WAN PWESENTS!

    by zom-bot.com

    i can smell the oily, thinning scraggly orange hair that sticks to the vinyl seat of the scooter... the clammy sweaty skin, moist from the efforts of breathing, stuck to the vinyl seat of the scooter...the breath of the triple stomach bypass gullet that still sucks down corn syrup to this day even though we all told him to lay off the sodas...and i just don't even have pity, or jealousy, or anything for this guy anymore. his opinions are worth a read for their almost bi-polar childlike glee or bitter rage, but other than that, offer nothing to sway my opinion of anything. god bless Yoko, i suppose. that's all i can say. probably the only thing keeping him from becoming a wanna-be supervillain or something....the Mechanized Ginger Nightmare.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Paul Schrader + Martin Scorsese + Coke = Taxi Driver

    by Continentalop

  • May 20, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Laser

    by Six Demon Bag

    your points are moot. 1--the first terminator was not about apocalyptic survival, it was about trying to get away from a robot in the present day. T2 is a rare sequal that actually extends the premise. the fact that the film takes 10 years after the first means the child has been born without a father figure in his life, his mother is more preoccupied with saving humanity than raising her son "normally". there is no family unit to speak off, unless you mean the foster parents. the main theme of the film is that IRONICALLY the central father figure in his life is the EXACT thing determined to destroy mankind. rather than be untrusting like his mother, he allows the machine to help them and see that FATE IS WHAT WE FUCKIN MAKE! by teaching the robot humanity, his mother restores hers. 2--what the fuck is your problem with GNR?? the song that you are referring to is in the film for about 5 seconds as they zip around on his dirtbike..it's not an overblown montage like you'd hope for sorry. 3--father figure comment see above. hes still an unstoppable assassin, dipshit. you might note that he was programmed and sent back John and the resistance to PROTECT present day John. 4--violence is not toned down. as with terminator, if you watch T2 on tv they edit shit out, why would they do that if its pussy ass shit??? him need ing to have sarah calll to john..i dunno at that time he was already beginning to malfunction so maybe he needed to hear her to copy. They never did clarify when they sent these 2 terms back...maybe they perfected the technology to send back t1000. if you wanna nitpick and pull shit outta your ass, i can go all day. You say you LOOOOVE Aliens, so one quick one, if you please? How does the T800-John dynamic differ than the Newt-Ripley? one is a father figure. one a mother figure. ENLIGHTEN ME! and NOW school is out.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay + Coke = Transformers

    by Continentalop

    Ok, you've got a point drturing

  • May 20, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    just need a DUPONT review now

    by Six Demon Bag

    and the FAILURE will be complete

  • May 20, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    If you watch that Pizza Hut clip

    by drturing

    in which a huge action scene is played 320x200 resolution for pizza hut fans, thus diluting any of its worth or awesomeness so pizza can be sold, you'll see that it's the 2nd unit action director who's calling all the shots and directing the sequence. if you dig out your T2 laseerdiscs you'll see Jim Cameron sitting on the LA pavement with a bunch of toy cars showing the crew just how this truck bmx chase is going to go down. McG "didn't see it happen" cause he was probably trying to hit on someone on set instead of making a good fucking movie. He's a slimy lying charlatan. As harsh as I'm being, don't ever fucking tell me you have Jim Cameron's blessing when you don't.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    chuffsterUK

    by Stuntcock Mike

    That review was emberassing.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Paul WS Anderson + Coke = his whole career

    by drturing

  • May 20, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Cocaine was 60% of why the 70's films kicked ass.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    And 98% of why Bay's films stink.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    Paul Thomas Anderson + Coke = Magnolia

    by drturing

    shit, see, it's just like the theme of the first Terminator films. Coke in itself is not bad. It's what you do with it.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    that was wrong of me

    by zom-bot.com

    personal attacks based on appearance have nothing to do with movie reviews, and i apologize. i just get so mad when people don't appreciate (or possibly, over-indulgently appreciate?) what they have in life....fame, website, hollywood connections, young asian wife....that they either do their job based on what freebies they are given, to the point where to get us to take them seriously they have to post pictures of tickets they- GASP- BOUGHT!- or else they pick apart everythign else that doesn't fit into the fanatical fan universe of miniatures and memorabelia they live in. i want a review site. i have an opinion. and i'm a pretty grounded human being. that's all i'm sayin'.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Stuncock Mike

    by chuffsterUK

    Indeed,it came across as the ramblings of a senile old man!

  • May 20, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    For the record, I don't think Paul WS Anderson does coke

    by drturing

    his films aren't even funny enough to suggest he was awake making them. i mean, maybe he sniffs airplane model cement, maybe. but i bet he does no drugs. PTA on Magnolia, though... Shit... And obviously Punch Drunk Love was all about weed and therapy and xanax.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Don Simpson + Coke = Sleazy producer

    by Continentalop

  • May 20, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Edward Furlong wouldn't complain about lights...

    by radruss001

    the Furlong should have been in this movie...

  • May 20, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Oh and by the way Conti

    by Stuntcock Mike

    I'm in for the blow/peelers extravaganza.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    And one last thing...

    by drturing

    McG has admitted he cut a scene with Moon Bloodgood's boobs. Fuck you McG, the one organic special effect that no Transformers or Star Trek was gonna give us this summer... But I bet her luscious orbs didn't match up with the whole synergistic Pizza Hut thing.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    I loved what Courtney Love once said

    by Continentalop

    All the good directors she had worked with were big on coke. The needed it because it was an upper to keep them going on set and during the shoot. <p> Hence, Milos Foreman =Cokehead.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    On the other hand.............

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Scorsese + Coke + Coke = New York, New York.

  • remember when McWeeny used to do like 40k word reviews on movies like "Equillibrium"? I wonder if he was stoned.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    the Furlong

    by radruss001

    Edward Furlong should have been Reese.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Alien Resurrection

    by Anything But Tangerines

    I just watched that for the 1st time... thanks for saving me $10, Harry!

  • May 20, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    One of these nights we should just have...

    by Continentalop

    ...a coke and booze TB. Everyone is required to do lines and get shitfaced while posting. <p> Probably be best if it was a Twilight TB.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Maybe Ratner should try a little of "The Lash"

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Coke may help.

  • there's some seriously groanworthy moments you aren't aware of yet. You'll see. And that ending...

  • May 20, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Continentalop, just name the time.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    20,000 posts for a Twilight TB. In six fucking hours.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    White Lotus is a nicname for the opium

    by radruss001

  • May 20, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    BTW, subversive humor should be part of the Terminator movies

    by drturing

    that would've been REALLY funny if Skynet had based its first infiltrator unit on what the governor of California circa the aughts looked like. Remember the whole interchange with Arnold cutting his eye out and the computer choosing "fuck you asshole"? And Bale's character deserved to have a smartass sense of humor. People who survive in grim scenarios are full of it. Fuck, the darkest jokes I've ever heard in my life are from nurses and EMTs.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Where to begin...

    by SSquirrel

    Let's see...so many options. 1)Harry managed to review a movie, and in telling us about it, insert more cock than Watchmen, more feces than the South Park "World's Biggest Turd" episode and equate the movie to an act of power over another deliver thru the act of sex. Did I miss anything important? Didn't think so. 2)McG is short for his mother's maiden name of McGinty. It's a nickname that stuck and got used for his stage name. So no actor has ever had a stage name before? Has McG actually changed his name legally to McG? To my knowledge it is just a stage name. Let his body of work speak for itself. If you are getting so bent out of shape over his name you are fucking stupid. If you hate him for his body of work being poor in your opinion cool. 3)Scotsman, I'm still unclear, could you begin from the beginning, enunciate clearly and explain it all over again? Thanks. 4)America is a collection of states that were originally independent of each other and formed 2 completely different countries when the Confederacy broke away from the Union. Union beat them down and they re-merged, but there are still idiots in the south who will refer to northerners as "yanks" and yell retarded shit like "The South will rise again" when it's mostly southern states in the worst condition nationally talking about not accepting Obama's money. Yeah, that's a great fucking idea. Make your state stay in a depressed economic situation b/c someone from the other side of the aisle is offering help to your people. 5)The US has states that are bigger than the countries that make up the United Kingdom. Just as many accents (if not more) can be found. 6)I need more to keep me busy at work than read the worthless drivel I have found in this review and talkback.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Terminator has been sucking for a long time now

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Did everyone forget T 3. That had ARNIE in it, and it still sucked!!

  • May 20, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST

    where's scotsman75?

    by zom-bot.com

    i miss being shouted at from whatever earthen basement in the rolling hills of scotland he was coming from, trying to educate us about the borders of the UK in a place that could give a poop. and unless your homeland was small and shouty, why else would you name yourself after where you came from? you don't see me calling myself 'americanman76'. that would be as internet ghey as it gets.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    The sad thing about McG is that...

    by Continentalop

    A) He probably isn't a bad guy. I mean, he might be a douche and a dumb director, but you probably would have more fun hanging out with him than 90% of the directors out there (definitely nicer than Bay). <p> B) He actually will probably start get better than most other directors because he gets more chances. While more talented people than him are struggling to get a movie made, he will probably continue to get gigs and because of that set experience on big budget movies. I don't care how much better some young filmmaker are than him, if that guy has only got two independent movies with budgets less than $1 million under his belt it will be hard for him to come in and blow away McG who will probably soon have thousands of on set experience working on $100 million dollar movies. <p> McG is like the son of a guy coaching a football team. He keeps his son in at QB giving him all the snaps and practice, while a better kid sits on the bench and his skills and talents go undeveloped.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Don Simpson + White Vader + Plastic Surgery addiction =

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Deservedly dead.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    Harry liked CABIN FEVER.

    by Fa Fa Fooey

    CABIN FUCKING FEVER. Just sayin'

  • May 20, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Twilight: New Moon opening day TB

    by Continentalop

    Is officially coke and booze day. Anyone not snorting and drink is dead to me, professionally.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Terminator Salvation

    by FatJohn

    Yup, I knew it! I knew this movie wasn't going to be about shit. Thank you, Harry. Now, I can go see Harry Potter and not worry about this. I knew when they put Christian Bale in it, it wouldn't be shit. He's Batman, and that's as far as I'll go with him. They should have got the original John Conner from T2.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Yeah but Conti....

    by Stuntcock Mike

    these are just the kind of goofy jock-types who end up swinging at you after eight Miller High Lifes when you make a comment on his Wife's "amazing" boob job.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    "Go.... Have fun.... be a kid again...."

    by Baryonyx

    Thanks to chuffster uk for reminding us of Harry's Phantom Menace review, which ends with: "Go.... Have fun.... be a kid again...." If I remember correctly, he also defended the shit-fest Van Helsing by saying that it's great if you imagine you're a kid having a sugar-rush (or something similar) when you watch it. Basically, when Harry wants to like something, he says he watched it through kid's eyes.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    drturing

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    You've seen the film, too?<P>BTW - you've been on a Talkback roll lately. Fun stuff.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Don Simpson + Pissing on a prostitute =

    by Continentalop

    I agree Mike. <p>

  • May 20, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    McG over Bay anytime.

    by zom-bot.com

    while McG might get drunk in a bar and try to hit on my sister, Bay would just have one of his people rufee her and then he'd fuck her in his limo and leave her in an alley unconscious and bukkake'd. mcG may be a douche, but he's one of the guys. Bay is an arrogant raper of childhoods who make you watch while he's doing it.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    O.K. Conti, New Moon it is.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Meet you at the bottom.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    McG is a

    by TooWhippy

    nice guy but has no business directing a movie like this. I still can't believe the studio thought it was a good idea to give him a Terminator movie. bummed.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Not to "hype" HitFix but have you seen Moriarty's interview with McG? I think you may find it interesting and entertaining based upon your statements about him in your previous post.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    This summer...

    by JRyanH

    Earlier this year, I thought this summer was going to rock, movie-wise. Now I'm thinking Star Trek is going to be the only decent genre flick to come out, at least until August. I was kinda looking forward to Transformers until I saw the new TV spot with the "BUMBLEBEEEEEEEEEE!" scream, and some kind of redneck looking Autobot with buck-teeth saying, "IT'S UPGRADE TIME!"... Looks like this one will have more of the shit that I disliked from the first film. Oh, well... As for Terminator Salvation, I guess I'll check it out this weekend, but Harry has already been spot-on concerning the festering turd that was Wolverine. I honestly think McG was just the wrong choice for this film. I can't believe the studio hired him...

  • May 20, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Stunkcock

    by Continentalop

    I agree about McG taking a swing at you. He radiates insecurity and sooner or later he will take something you said about him as a personal attack. <p> Going with the sports angle, he is like the guys I played college football with that were pretty bad and always took anything someone said as a challenge to their manhood. <P> God I hope I wasn't like that.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    "That the first TERMINATOR was a love story first and foremost"

    by Lord_Byron_Farthammer

    LOL! Yeah, and Predator was first and foremost a commentary on Cold war geopolitical realities. Idealize the past much? Geez. And T2 was T1 with a bunch of stolen concepts from "Short Circuit". You could practically hear "Number Five is alive!!!" echoing in the background as they lowered Arnie into the molten metal. Both were great movies, but high cinema they were not. Much like Star Wars, people look back and apply layers that just weren't there. Nostalgia's getting the better of you Harry.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Explaining Skynet Not Killing Kyle

    by C A Iversen

    I can't believe no-one has pointed out that Skynet cannot kill Kyle. If Kyle Reese doesn't exist to go back to 1984, then the T-800 won't follow him, the tech won't be used by Miles Dyson and his cronies. I know all that stuff was destroyed at the end of T-2, but then the US Air-Force took over development of the SKYNET project and judgement day happened at the end of T-3. A whole bunch of dominoes wouldn't fall if Kyle Reese is killed before he can go back. So, SKYNET isn't going to wipe out the history which let to it's current state identity, is it? Hope this helps ya Harry?

  • May 20, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    No I haven't Mr. Nice Gaius

    by Continentalop

    I'm going to check it out.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Wow. No one respects Harry's taste.

    by Larry Sellers

    Every single review, whether he loved or hated the film, he's accused of not getting any incentives to publish a positive review. I have to say that the man has some pretty fucked up taste and that speaks a lot of honesty to me. No one here has ever hated a film with every inch of their being like Harry has with T4 (it wasn't THAT bad but that's just me)? Or given a film a free pass just because it made the smile a little and they could relate like Harry did with Marley & Me? All I know about Harry is what he writes and he seems to be genuine if a little pretentious and cocky. Can someone link me to the last set visit that was even published here? Yeesh. It's because of uncivil sites like these that film producers stopped trying to generate any buzz whatsoever outside of viral marketing.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Continentalop, I'd rather do blow with Robert Evans

    by Stuntcock Mike

    than McG. Although I'd probably die trying to keep up with that snowblower.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    Empire and Total film raves....

    by wildphantom07

    4 stars in Empire and in Total Film in the UK<P> We don't get it until June 3 due to Sony distributing it over here and not wanting to open it the week after the shit-fest that is their very own Angels & Demons.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    And all Evans would do is whine about Ali McGraw

    by Stuntcock Mike

    And how all she really wanted in life was an ounce of blow and Steve McQueen's schlong.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    It never fails

    by Rob0729

    Any Terminator thread has Laserpants and his anti-T2 rant. I still don't get how very minor points of the film gets under his skin. I mean the horror a preteen John Connor listening to the most popular band in 1990. I don't know how people didn't walk out because of the 30 seconds of "You could be mine" was on the screen. Or Laser's obsession with the T-1000 making Sarah call to John when it was well implied in the theatrical release and outright shown in the Director's cut that the T-1000 was damaged when it got frozen by the liquid nitrogen. <br><br> Were there plot holes in T2, yes like many if not most great scifi movies. We can nitpick about a lot of the classics. I mean how can the Death Star be this impregnable fortress that can withstand anything anyone can throw at them be destroyed completely by a bomb that is small enough to be carried on an X-wing fighter and dropped in a 3 meter hole in the Death Star. If was so easy to destroy the Death Star by that hole why not protect it better. (ok, I am stealing this from the Family Guy)? Or (sticking with Star Wars) how about Obi Wan Kenobi faking out Darth Vader and the rest of the galaxy to thinking he is dead by changing his name to Ben Kenobi? Or how about Charlton Heston's Taylor from Planet of the Ape never thinking that since all the Apes speak Americanized English that he might be in Future New York and not some other planet? For that matter, how about all the movies over the last 50 or so years where the aliens inexplicitly speak perfect english? Or how about a Mac being able to set off a computer virus on alien ship in Independence Day (ok, clearly not in the same class of the other movies) when at the time a Mac and PC couldn't even interact with each other?

  • May 20, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    terminator vs transformers: m&m's.

    by zom-bot.com

    terminator wins. why? because transformers has a bag of M&M's made just for them. the flavor? STRAWBERRIED PEANUT BUTTER. i fuck you not. HOWEVER- since crystal skull introduced the mint crisp m&m- which is sweet delicious CRACK even though the movie sucked, perhaps the horrid transformers m&m's mean a good movie?<P>also, countless geeks are going to go see transformers just for megan fox...and while she is gorgeous, she is also coldy pretty in the same way so many pornstars are that look just like her that you can see HAVING SEX for free online. why would you want to pay $12 just to see Fox in transformers and secretly rub your pants under the popcorn bag so the family of 6 beside me can't see-- when you could just stay at home and whack it to actual nude women? bay is just the pimp owner of the strip club where Fox works... only there's no touching and she never takes anything off. enjoy that, fellas.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    James Cameron Has Been Strangely Quiet On This Movie

    by Media Messiah

    Could it be that James Cameron has seen the new Terminator, or knows something negative about the film, in total, or in part? Perhaps, Harry is projecting something glmpsed, but not spoken, by Cameron...at least not publicly?

  • May 20, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    C A Iversen to your point...

    by MurderMostFowl

    I would have been better to point out that Skynet is afraid to do this, fearing eliminating its own existence. ( even if movie-science-universe wise it is or isn't true ) <BR>The problem is disrupting Kyle *at all* may have prevented him from going through the time chamber. <BR> <BR> SCC dealt with this pretty well, establishing that future changes have occurred because of "new" changes in the past. Subsequent people to have come back in time have had different experiences. <BR> Presumably the SCC story was aiming to illustrate that FATE is real and that it doesn't matter how often you try to change it, Skynet is destined to exist in some form.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    wildphantom07

    by chuffsterUK

    Where's the Empire review mate?

  • May 20, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    I never wanted to see this in the first place

    by DOGSOUP

    Shit-Movie sense was tingling. Looks like I was right.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    drturing, GREAT OBIT!!!

    by Bones

    That Obituary had me crying, man. Great stuff.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Robert Evans, good one

    by Continentalop

    I would love to do coke with Lindsey Lohan. See if I could do some titty bumbs.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    wildphantom07

    by chuffsterUK

    Found it:)Strange how the UK mags are raving yet US reviewers are hating eh?

  • May 20, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Media Messiah that would be poor form and possibly worse

    by MurderMostFowl

    No one wants the studio suing because Cameron comes out and says it sucks donkey balls on opening night. His words could do real damage to the film, and even if they couldn't successfully sue him for slander, why would he want to rock the boat?<BR> In fact his best move is to remain utterly silent on this, and later, when it bombs... come by and whisper... pssst, hey are you sure you don't want to listen to me about Terminator?

  • May 20, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Stuntcock

    by Continentalop

    You ever read Easy Riders & Raging Bulls?

  • May 20, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Bye guys...

    by chuffsterUK

    ..be back tomorrow,have fun,loves ya all!LOL

  • May 20, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Continentalop, I've memorized most of it.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Check out the Evans doc The Kid Stays in the Picture. Cocaine is a helluva drug.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    I never thought I live to see the day where..

    by ganymede3010

    X3, and T3 would be heralded as great films. That goes to show you how low hollywood has really sunk. So far we're 1 for 3 in this years round of summer blockbusters. The only movie that will truly deliver is ROTF.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    36% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes so far

    by Rob0729

    Only 53 reviews (probably will have 200 or so when everything is said and done), but the majority of the reviews are on track with Harry. Granted movie critics and the general public don't always (or usually) agree on big budget actioners, but the general consensus is that Harry is on spot.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    UK vs US reviews

    by zom-bot.com

    i trust the european/uk opinion on sci-fi more than i do america's. <P>on a side note, don't forget McG and Full Throttle introduced us to a young, jew-fro'd shia lebouf riding dirtbikes. and i remember the cast saying how this unknown kid was going to be the next big thing. now, I don't hate mcG, but if you guys who do want to equate mcg with shia and everything that is wrong with movies now, there's an arguement starter for ya.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Another paycheck for Bale

    by Bjornegar

    Another film to which he adds absolutely nothing and is up-staged by any one of his co-stars.<P> Balebackers have always been a sneering, ironic bunch, but even they must, at some point, start to expect something from this mumble-mouthed turd.<P> Fuck Bale.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    MuderMostFowl

    by C A Iversen

    I see your point, but it seems on many fronts that this film flies in the face of the Sarah Conner Chronicles. I still say my explanation above still shoots a few holes in one major problem Harry has with the film, or at least gives an extremely valid out for the screen-writer on this single point. I'm not saying it's a good film, but needed to make that one point.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    I love the Kid Stays in the Picture

    by Continentalop

    Anything to do with 70s films and blow and I am there, and The Kid Stays in the Picture had both.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Substitute the words, "Terminator Salvation" with "The Dark Knig

    by LaneMyersClassic

    you'll have my review of the "The Dark Knight." Thank you Harry!

  • May 20, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    Harry writes a negative review shock!

    by FACEfaceFACEface_____FACE

    well, well, well. This must be the worst film ever committed to celluloid.

  • May 20, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    And yeah, I watched every episode of Fastlane. SO?!

    by Stuntcock Mike

    I'll take any and every opportunity to jack of to Tiffani Thiessen that comes my way.

  • May 20, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    Lucas came up with The Force when he was high on morphine...

    by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester

    after he wrapped his car around a telephone pole. So, apparently, to get anything more worthwhile out of Noodle-Necks, we need to get him completely fucked up! Who wants to volunteer to drive up to the Ranch and wait outside George's house with a blowdart laced with LSD? PS, other people who benefited from the use of illegal narcotics: The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Jack Kerouac, Lewis Black, and Bill Maher to name a few. Yep, those drugs sure are some evil crap...

  • May 20, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST

    No need for blasphemy Bjornegar

    by Continentalop

    Bale works in mysterious ways. I am sure he has a higher purpose when he made this disappointing film.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Must see this NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by SoylentMean

    I want to be pissed off as well. Hell, I'm already pissed off that this movie is PG-13. Seriously, I'm considering just seeing Night at the Museum 2...

  • May 20, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Damn it feels good to be a gangsta...

    by ghostofrorschach

    There's another Terminator Salvation review over at www.mymavra.com. Fuck the embargo!

  • May 20, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Before I go

    by chuffsterUK

    Empires review: http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=10354 Total Films review: http://www.totalfilm.com/reviews/cinema/terminator-salvation

  • May 20, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    this CRACKED article sums it up nicely

    by zom-bot.com

    for anyone who is so stuck on nitpicking any diversion from their own personal idea of terminator mythos. <P>http://tinyurl.com/qyzqgy

  • May 20, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Of course it was gonna suck....

    by amrisharmpit

    The films should have stopped after T2, the way Cameron wanted it. I have a real problem with what has happened to this series. Unlike other franchises that are adaptations, the Terminator was an original creation. It's Cameron's thing, and anything beyond what he's done is just a money grab.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST

    I knew this shyt would be gay...

    by Kwalified

    As soon as McG was announced as the director...wack

  • May 20, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    What's up with Cameron

    by drturing

    He wants TS to do ok so that Sam Worthington is established as a star before Avatar comes out and respect for the guy. Cameron seems to really really love Worthington and have a lot of faith and respect for him.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Wait, he actually wrote "MESA LUVED HIM"?!?!?!?!?!

    by cinemixtape.com

    Holy fucking shit.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Hilarious review!

    by Darth Thoth

    Good one Harry. You had a number of great quotable lines in there. I wasn't expected T1 or T2 with this movie, but at least T3. now I'm really worried!

  • May 20, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Just wait...

    by Baryonyx

    ...until McG gets to make his remake of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, starring Will Smith. I can see it now: "I wanna whup that squid's ass!"

  • May 20, 2009, 4:07 p.m. CST

    T-1000 and time travel encased in flesh...

    by Cellar Door

    Ok, here's what I got from the movie the moment I saw it. No disrespect to your opinion of not liking it but not understanding it or not having JC spell out everything for you does not make it a plot hole.<p>You mention skin and how there was none. Are you sure? 100% sure? Or are you just presuming there wasn't or that it wasn't possible? What about the cloth of his police uniform? The hair of John's stepmom? And her clothing too? Soft and fuzzy metal? Microscopic metal molding itself to mimic hair and cloth? Or perhaps inside the T-1000 there actually exists all of this material that the 1000 is capable of bringing to the surface as needed? As well as genetically altering certain aspects (color, etc)? That each and every skin cell is a separate and living entity within the T-1000 that can be genetically replicated and configured as needed within it's body? And all of those billions of fully controllable skin cells are layered on top of the liquid metal body? And it's really not a liquid but presumably trillions of nanotech cellular 'bots' of some type that can handle this and much more? And yet wouldn't require the 1000 to form the process (cant form complex machines) but the device that handles these parameters just sits inside of him like a component of a modern computer? It could practically be microscopic and still get the job done.<p>Personally, the organic concept of "The Thing" popped into my mind right away..each and every cell is autonomous and moves to suit the host, or the cpu of the T-1000 if there's even a discreet device like that in it's body.<p>The point is we're talking technology designed and built by true artificial intelligence. That kind of tech is simply beyond our capacity to understand and I think JC and his crew did quite an admirable job in imagining what autonomous thinking machines would create in order to kill humans.<p>If they can create or clone living tissue which does not die or rot on a metal endoskeleton (the T-800), then a logical step would be to break from the 'skeletal' model's limitations. No more "big man" T-800's, fully capable of mimicing any human face and form? What's more perfect for the task of assassination than being an unstoppable metamorphic chameleon?<p>Now, you could say I'm reading way to much into this but that goes back to my point. If you cannot possibly imagine how this could be possible and it ruins the movie for you, that's fine. But if JC thought that about all of us cinema-goers, then we'd have an awkward and "gee, awfully convenient" description plot point by someone having to explain the tech better left to the audience's imaginations. Personally, I'm glad he erred on the side of people willing to spend even a few seconds imaging how it could be possible versus erring on describing and explaning everything that happens in the flique.<p>Please, it's better when the cinema audience is expected to be even a little savvy...otherwise we get these dumbass movies that presume you're about as perceptive as a shank of old carpet.<p>As far as plot holes, it's definitely true about the voice and appearance of Sarah only a few moments later. I do know that when the T-1000 was doused in liquid CO2 and "destroyed" that he actually suffered significant damage. When he and Arnie fight and he gets Arnie's arm lodged in the machine and goes to walk away...he looks up and a ripple of 'liquid' metal flows over his features? You know why? He's damaged. I watched that scene frame by frame before I watched and read about JC's take on that scene. The T-1000 was damaged and the reason he stabbed Sarah instead of just mimicking her was saving power and energy so as not to have to waste it on something less important than killing John.<p>Now, I'm going to guess this won't be good enough for you and you'll still consider it the shittiest movie ever. And that's fine of course...opinions and all that...but I joked once that the reason Seth Rogen is a jackass is because he wore fake tattoos in 40yoV...the funny thing? TB'ers didn't realize I was fucking joking. The pathetic thing? After I told them I was joking they still blabbered on about how it's a very dumb reason to hate an actor. Some people just refuse to get it...whether it's somewhat ambiguous or spelled out in precision detail.<p>Some people just revel in their own stupid sauce.<p>That's fine of course...but the film makers who do not cater to those people are the ones that I always expect quality from...you must be completely lost watching films from directors like Kubrick or Aronofsky, Terry Gilliam or anyone who is either brilliantly ambiguous or routinely surreal.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Continentalop, RE: Raging Bulls

    by Stuntcock Mike

    You ever see the documentary of it? Taplin recalls Hitchcock's AFI tribute and going into the bathroom and seeing several sets of feet in each stall amidst the sounds of hoovering blow while a couple of old timers kinda stood there wondering what the hell was going on. Keep in mind though, these old timers were used to a bit of the old "Coke bottle in the cunt" action ala Fatty Arbuckle.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST

    So, another one of those...

    by joergn

    "Leave your brains on the front door-blockbusters" or these "Go into with zero expectations" or another good one "loved it for what it was"! Hell, maybe the audience nowadays is too dumb or too young to see the difference between a good movie and big movie. Because "X-men: Origins" and "X-3" did very good at the box office, after all and so will this one.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    LaserPants---T2 was AWESOME!!!! AHNOLD spoke w/ a SCOTTISH ACCEN

    by Sal_Bando

    Git ready for some TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION!! <p> NOT<p> I thought it was actually a really good movie. The one thing I thought it lacked, however, were enough Giant Robots. Fortunately, Mikey_Bay is going to rectify this matter w/ the summer's biggest, best movie yet---TRANSFORMERS IN ENGLAND: OPTIMUS SPEAKS w/ a BRITISH ACCENT. It's great-see he's really from LEEDS this time and he sounds JUST like those guys from CARDIFF and---

  • May 20, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    chuffsterUK That EP 1 review was EMBARRASING

    by DoctorWho?

    Really, I winced a couple of times and even had to avert my eyes from the text only slowly re-read thinking " he couldn't have been serious"<p> I'm not a Harry basher (unless it's politics) but he needs about a 10 year buffer between seeing a movie and reviewing it just to get some perspective. Jeez.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:12 p.m. CST

    Never saw the Raging Bulls doc

    by Continentalop

    I've got to check that out. <p> I once read that back in the Fatty Arbuckle days they would hold big parties where on the tables was booze and cocaine. <p> Cocaine has been part of Hollywood since the beginning. A long and beautiful tradition.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    and zom-bot.com...

    by DoctorWho?

    You're killing me with that mute kid with props post. That's twice today you got me!

  • May 20, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Mr, Nice Gauis

    by Continentalop

    Just saw the McG interview. He acted pretty much they way I thought, especially when he got defensive when McWeeny said that Cameron discovered Worthington.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Dissapointed so far.

    by Harold-Sherbort

    Everything so far has been dissapointing I think. Star Trek was a misfire for me personally. I'm more excited about Drag Me To Hell than almost any other movie coming out for the next 2 and a half months. That, and there's two movies at Cannes that look great. Hopefully AntiChrist and Enter the Void make their way to a major city near me (Chicago) by September. I still have yet to see Terminator, but I've got a little hope it will be at least a decent action movie.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST

    NOT as bad as Harry says but, only if—

    by blakindigo

    –the first two "Terminators" didn't exist. Some impressive work here—the helicopter crash scene and the harvester scene–but, yeah, it's underwritten especially for the actors of this caliber.<br><br> I felt frustrated by the annoying coincidences and plot contrivances (jump drives? Huh?!) and the last act was dreadful. I left feeling undernourished. The ideas didn't gel as presented; it felt like a pastiche of "The Terminator" and "The Road Warrior" to me. But, the film LOOKS wonderful and the sound editing was amazing. McG is definitely going for raw adrenaline here (and to be fair succeeds in some places). There's not enough emotion or heart and this is a film that demands both. It should be very, very emotional.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:21 p.m. CST

    What a selfish review...Yawn

    by RicardoTubbs

    So, basically, Harry didn't like the movie because it wasn't written, acted and plotted EXACLTY how HE wanted it done. Give me a freaking break. I saw it and thought it was fucking gnar! Gnarley good...but then, I had no expectations.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:21 p.m. CST

    thanks doctorwho

    by zom-bot.com

    i'm surprised harry didn't love the little mute tyke and go all Matt Pinfield on us with the elaborate personal history of silent characters on film because of it. <P> i just get the feeling he didn't like this because for once he thought it would be cool to hate on something popular again. I don't see him taking down the T4 toy ads though. because there's doing what you believe in and there's doing what pays you.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:24 p.m. CST

    This Is James Cameron's Fault

    by MANNZILLA

    He had the option to buy back the rights before T3 was made for a reasonable price, and he turned it down.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Thanks for mentioning the Slurpee incident early on Harry

    by YackBacker

    I was able to stop reading right there. No offense, but you come off bad in this one. Sending the Mrs. off to get you a sugar-laden drink doesn't seem right. I await Peter Travers' review before I make my decision to see this.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    C A Iversen, no no I agree with you

    by MurderMostFowl

    It could very well be true that Skynet can't kill Kyle. I was extending it to be that Skynet isn't omniscient and fears that it can't kill Kyle for precisely that reason.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    I have my reservation about this film...

    by trojanwilliams

    There's something about the trailers that just never seemed like a terminator movie to me. Just seemed like a lot of over-acting and characters taking themselves way too seriously. <br><br> That said I really want to see this now that Harry hated it. The best part of Harry's review? When he uses the assinine term "nukes the fridge" (maybe the most obnoxious geek diss in the history of disses). Not only does he use a term coined from a film he loved but he dares lecture us about hokey dialogue after submitting me to fucking DAREDEVIL so many years ago. What exactly is Harry's definition of hokey anymore. No one knows.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Bale be praised!

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Christ had the miracle of loaves and fishes--but Bale has Terminator Salvation! Share in his glory during this wondrous week at your local cinema! See it twice! Pay for your friends to come with you! Hallowed be his name! Randomly shout HURLBUT!! during the film!

  • May 20, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Dang, Harry....

    by Mr. Triffid

    Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel...<P>

  • May 20, 2009, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Stunt and Conti

    by Six Demon Bag

    Get the audiobook of KID STAYS IN THE PICTURE..read by evans..while doing lines...its like hes actually telling you his stories all strung out.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Continentalop, Arbuckle was innocent apparently.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    But we all know he was into some fucked up shit.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:32 p.m. CST

    scotsman75…What was your point?

    by blakindigo

    Sorry, I didn't quite get that one.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:32 p.m. CST

    If Harry thinks this is bad it must be REALLY shit!

    by P2Rock

    As above

  • May 20, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Agreed. And yeah, he did seem to get a little defensive over the notion of first "discovery" dibs on Worthington.<P>At the end, when he asked Drew if he was "haulin' ass", I laughed out loud. At that moment, he seemed like a red-haired Danny McBride.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Jesus, best idea I've heard all day.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    manzilla- exactly! cameron ABANDONED terminator

    by zom-bot.com

    so everybody stop praising that cameron would have done this or that with the series and the 'future war. because he dropped it...maybe he realized that the wacky paradox was only good for one or two gos and the premise would fall apart if the story kept going. or maybe linda hamilton so scarred him that he can't even think about the series. or maybe he wanted to make a bunch of fluff in the following years so that we could relentlessly be reminded how he is going to fuck our eyeballs whenever the hell 'avatar: the last eyeball fucker' is supposed to come out. one thing is certain. we will all think the technology in avatar is great. for a while. until the gimmick is quickly used in paper towel commercials, music videos and everything else JUST LIKE the liquid effects in abyss, the morphing technology of T2 and the scale of Titanic have all been used to death now. I don't know what i'm saying, i guess. cameron is an innovator, but the glory is fleeting. months after avatar, we won't give a shit again. and we'll hear cameron is off in his cave planning his next big film using a technology where the actors actually come out of the screen and rape you....because that's all his films have ever been. hype around a new technique. films that are driven by effects and only idea or story second.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    YES ABOM!!!

    by Stuntcock Mike

    The Baleforce is strong with us.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    May have been mentioned already but.......

    by wigggo

    I bet harry is pissed because he hasnt had the chance to fuck QT up the arse with a glowing review of basterds. Meaning he hasnt seen it yet

  • May 20, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    YackBacker

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Quote: "I await Peter Travers' review before I make my decision to see this."<P>Ha! Nice.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    6Demon, Mike

    by Continentalop

    I will have to get that Six Demon, thanks. <p> Yeah, he was into fucked up shit but he didn't rape and murder that woman. She was bleeding from a botched abortion. Fucking tabloid gossip columnist ruined his career. <p> I'm actually a fan of Fatty's- own his collection of silent comedy DVDs. Guy was a comic genius of his day. <p> Side not - best Simpsons joke ever is when Krusty is at the post office and sees that he is not one of the comedians getting a Stamp. "Kings of Comedy my butt. What has Fatty Arbuckle ever done that I haven't?"

  • May 20, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST

    HARRY

    by enough22

    Harry: you are a very destructive human being. If at least you could try and be less obvious maybe, just maybe, someone would take all your shit seriously.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Dont think Cameron does coke

    by Six Demon Bag

    hes a whiskey man all the way.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST

    zom-bot.com

    by blakindigo

    “…using a technology where the actors actually come of the screen and rape you…”<br><br>The most insightful and brilliant comment I've read today. Not even Jon Stewart would've dropped that ditty.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice

    by Continentalop

    In McG's defense, I can understand why he is defensive. You know he reads or at least knows about TBs like this. The guys constantly gets ripped. He's like Brett Michaels (before he started going Rock of Love) who was always seeing any comment as a slam at him for being in a cheesy hair band.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Stunt and Conti

    by Six Demon Bag

    Fatty was innocent. took a film history class eons ago and they talked about it. pretty much boiled down to politics and jealousy. he was the stop star and some other people (rival studio heads) wanted another star.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    They should have let the TV-series people do the movie

    by SummerDream

    I have not seen the movie yet, but from Harry's review it seems rather obvious that they should have asked the the Sarah Connor Chronicles people to do the movie as well. There was awesome acting, multidimensional stories, beautiful explosions ..everything one would want from a clever action/drama movie. Too bad Fox cancelled their, or anyones, best show. Anyone who is one of us TSCC fans, join the resistance! http://terminatorwiki.fox.com/thread/2848659/Let+all+get+on+Friday+at+8%3A00+PM+on+SCI+FI+Forms+to+support+TCSS or (same linki) http://tinyurl.com/p6zlb7

  • May 20, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    6Demon and Continentalop

    by blakindigo

    Where did you lot get the Arbuckle info? Is there a documentary or a book I could reference? Only thing I know is the "Hollywood Babylon" chapter.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Six Demon Bag

    by Continentalop

    For your professionalism, you are officially invited to me and Stunt's Twilight coke and booze party.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Saw it Monday, it ain't that bad

    by poopoohumor

    worse that transformers? hardly. no one peed on anyone else in salvation. is it perfect? no. the opening and the ending are the worst parts. some silly missteps in the middle, but the rest aint bad. not cameron level work, but waaaay better than i thought mcg would do. give credit where credit is due harry, this film is much better than t3 and gives some possible direction to the franchise. also SPOILER-SPOILER-SPOILER- worhtingtons "hybrid" character is a one-off, we'll never see him again. he was designed as a wild card one-of-a-kind infiltration unit to try and get closer to connor than the machines have ever gotten. the series can get back to people fighting machines now. END SPOILER.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    C A Iversen...

    by HB_Dad

    Reese went back in time to follow the T-800, not the other way around as you presented it.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Jack N Coke party

    by radruss001

    4 the new Lost Boys!

  • May 20, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    No Surprise Here!

    by MrEckosDickBlood

    Considering McG has not contributed any real critical or memorable material to art of cinema. All he knows is flashing actions shots and music video crap. The problem is more do to do with the studios catering to the current demographics of mindless zombies that watch junk from hacks like Ratner, P Anderson, etc....

  • May 20, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Titanic special effects

    by MurderMostFowl

    I actually thoughtsome of the special effects in Titanic were pretty subpar... every single time I watch the movie, I whince and shut my eyes at the beginning of the film when the first mate ( or whoever it is ) walks across the deck as the camera pans across the bow of the ship. <BR><BR> If you've never noticed that, you will now, and what has been seen cannot be unseen.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Absolutely. He knows that he's walking into sacred (and recently shaky) cinematic territory and he doesn't want to be known as the guy who (may have) put the nail in the franchise coffin without a fight.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    blakindigo

    by Continentalop

    There was a documentary I saw on it but I can't remember the name. But Wikipedia does a nice job of going over the details: http://tinyurl.com/omuyjo

  • May 20, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Paul WS Anderson is a good comparison

    by blakindigo

    But, his action scenes don't come close to McG's—at least not for this moive.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    the strongest thing about sarah connor chronicles

    by zom-bot.com

    is that it showed- almost every episode- how 'little people' other than john connor were actually crucial to the timeline. people who unknowingly or purposely help skynet. people who help form the resistance. the movies sticking with the self importance of john connor is going to- or has now gotten, boring. dude wants to stay alive. dude can't let someone die or else he'll never be born. we get it. everyone wants to live. john should stop listening to his mothers tupac shakur-like tapes from beyond the grave. and like some have pointed out- instead of sending reese back, the best way to end eveything would have been to erase his own existance and kill reese. then none of it would ever have happened. or at least then he wouldn't have to worry about it. <P>blakindigo- thanks! oh, i think john stewart might have. we share the same birthday and sense of humor!

  • May 20, 2009, 4:47 p.m. CST

    Continentalop = Professional, Dammit!

    by blakindigo

    Nice one.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Conti! RE; Twilight coke and booze party

    by Stuntcock Mike

    I'll be listening to a continuous loop of Al Jolsen's greatest hits the whole time. I'll either be laughing uncontrolably, or on the verge of blubbering. Perhaps both. Welcome Six Demon Bag.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Then again

    by HB_Dad

    Reese also said they time travelled AFTER Skynet was defeated. They then "smashed the time machine so nobody else goes through". Of course we later had two more movies full of time travellers...

  • May 20, 2009, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Say what you will about Anderson.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Death Race gave me a hard on.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Hasta La Vista Baby!

    by Jawad

    Terminator Salvation rocked! saw it twice already! Crazy action and GNR song! T2 was great but it definitely wasn't perfect either. "I needh uh vaycaytion..."

  • May 20, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Death race won't give you a hard on...

    by Continentalop

    After the Twilight party. <p> Coke and Whisky Dick.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Am I the only one who finds James Cameron to be overrated?

    by HB_Dad

    Am I the only one who finds James Cameron to be overrated? Sure T1 and T2 were great. Aliens was also great. The Abyss was interesting. However, that's really it. Thats 3 great movies and one not bad. Titanic was a yawn-fest (until the sinking begins), and he seems to have gone a bit sunken-ship nuts since then. I don't think he's as amazing as people make him out to be...

  • May 20, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST

    Guys, easy on Harry for the SLURPEE

    by DoctorWho?

    ...dude's in a wheel chair. Don't tell me you wouldn't tell your little lady to shake that thang on into the local 7-11 to get you some grub. <p> And maybe even swat her on the ass on her way out of the car.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:54 p.m. CST

    MrGeyser---it STILL has Giant Robots in it.

    by Sal_Bando

    -and that is HALF the battle. Giant Robots?! Movie is half-good! McG directed the Giant Robots? Welllllllllllll----Did I mention it has Robots-?

  • May 20, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    HB_dad that's like his opinion, man

    by MurderMostFowl

    In all seriousness... Reese has no way of knowing whether his buddies changed their mind or if Skynet forces made a surprise attack and killed them all, or if there is more than one time machine or what. It's better off left vague anyway.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    but harry's in the wheelchair-

    by zom-bot.com

    BECAUSE of a lifetime of slurpees, doctorwho. after his surgery we all- even mean little me- came to his internet aid and warned him to change his ways or he would put the DIE in diabetes...but he hasn't listened. and the yoko/slurpee bit is a perfect prtrait of enabling and continued lifestyle.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    MurderMostFowl

    by DoctorWho?

    I'll have to check that out out next time I watch it. <p> But remember, those effects were the pinnacle at the time. Even viewing that movie a year or so later may have made it seem less than great the way CGI is improved upon at such a rapid rate.

  • May 20, 2009, 5 p.m. CST

    a gaping plothole in T4 (SPOILER)

    by MurderMostFowl

    SPOILER WARNING If you've read all the AICN reviews you know this already, but... <BR> SPOILER WARNING ANYWAY<BR> Haven't seen the movie yet, of course, so take this with a grain of salt...but if it is true how the spoilerific reviews have said that Skynet can take human form, then how come skynet didn't just send itself back in time thousands of years? ( this is of course true for all terminators, but if Skynet's self preservation is the most important goal, why not make it easy on yourself and fight dudes with stones and spears? )

  • May 20, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    I actually think James Cameron UNDERrated

    by blakindigo

    especially for his work with actors. Sigourney Weaver receive an Academy Award nomination, Ed Harris' fine performance and great work by others including Janette Goldstein, Bill Paxton and some fine comedic work by Arnold and Jamie Lee Curtis.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    my mom died of diabetic kidney failure

    by zom-bot.com

    so when i see harry continue to not give a shit about himself, like my mom did- continueing to snack on taboo things and avoid exercise (although nowhere near the excesses of sir knowles) it makes me mad. sometimes you have to berate these people to make them realize they are killing themselves.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Does Harry admit to 'taboo snacking'?

    by blakindigo

    I hope not.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:04 p.m. CST

    he ain't supposed to have sodas or slurpees anymore

    by zom-bot.com

    same thing, different form.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST

    HarryBlackPotter does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Fuuck, this tb is finally starting to simmer down a little.<p> I have to put a shout of respect out to HarryBlackPotter for his 'alternate reality' review of TS.<p> Genius stuff, I hope our Headgeek reads it with a rueful smile....

  • May 20, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST

    i'm out!

    by zom-bot.com

    gonna go watch this thing and then the rest of my week is filled with freelance illustration work...so long fellow entertainment grumps!

  • May 20, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    HB Dad

    by skimn

    You mention Cameron being overrated, but then rate 3 movies great, 1 not bad..Of course you leave out Piranha 2 (guy gets his DGA card) and True Lies (ummmm, not great?). I'd say thats a pretty damned good ratio, and not overrated at all.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    zom-bot.com

    by Six Demon Bag

    actually i think Cameron lost the rights to it during his divorce thats why he wants nothing to do with it.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Bones, I'm right there with you.

    by GaiustheBrave

    I haven't even felt the inclination to go back for a second look, which is strange for me. I didn't care too much for "Nemesis" and I saw that a few times in theatres. B4 was Star Trek's Jar Jar.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Let him work his fifth–column magic

    by blakindigo

    on a director's cut of "Reign of Fire" and we might have something. <br><br>Hey Disney! How 'bout some extra features for the Blu-Ray release!

  • May 20, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST

    After some of the shitfests that have been praised

    by Anal Inflictor

    to high heaven I am convinced that Harry's like/dislike has nothing to do with a movie's merits. It's a bad mood, something we didn't get, or maybe we just want to be contrarian for its own sake. Aint it cool to hate? Or maybe its just to generate TB traffic. Its anything but the movie.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Then again Harry....

    by boogy110

    Fucking loved Matrix 3 Revolting utions. Everyone has their right to their opinion of a movie, but at least for me, I rarely agree with Harry. He seems to exagerate his reviews to the nth degree. I guarantee the movie is not that bad, hell it may even be a great movie. Just like in my opinion Martrix 3 and Cloverfield were terrible, yet Harry praises it like it's the Cumming of Christ.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Looks like Bigelow will sneak in with the best

    by skimn

    of them all with The Hurt Locker. Trailer looks outstanding.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by blakindigo

    Yeah, i think he's into Tequila. I wish he'd come out with a book of his paintings and design work just like Lynch did. Even if it's a limited print edition.<br><br>

  • May 20, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    I wish Vern would review this thing...

    by The Amazing G

    sadly that's probably pretty unlikely since it's unfortunately rare for Vern to review movies when they're still in theaters (as great as a critic as he is he is priorities are a little off)

  • May 20, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    Stuntcock does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    Stuntcock i'd like to endorse Harry's review for a slot on AIBN.<p> Not the Knowles, but HarryBlackPotter, found about halfway down the tb.<p> For services to professionalism he takes the 'Order of Beru' and a lifetime supply of white vader.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Six Demon Bag

    count me down for the party +2..i bring it like Clarence Boddiker baby

  • May 20, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Why I have a hard time trusting Harry

    by tbransonlives

    How much he loved Blade 2, which I consider to be one of the worst movie I've ever paid to see. I really can't trust his opinion on anything.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Hey Harry, an honest question...

    by Kief_Ledger

    Is there any way, any way at all, that you could get James Cameron to write a review of Salvation? A nerd can dream can't he?

  • May 20, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Gaiusthebrave, you and Mr Nice Gaius the same guy?<p> What's up with the Gaius?

  • May 20, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Dick Jones!!—It was DICK JONES!!

    by blakindigo

  • May 20, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    And BTW - Skynet behaves just like the Sentinels

    by Anal Inflictor

    in Days of Future Past. Do you think that story sucks ass too?

  • May 20, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    AsimovLives

    by Six Demon Bag

    line em up country music! its party night!

  • May 20, 2009, 5:21 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Six Demon Bag

    also bringing my Sticky Fingers LP. side two never lets me down.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST

    The T-1000

    by veebeeyes

    Cameron didn't count on people being able to accept that it's possible for the T-1000 to somehow be encased in living tissue. He counted on audiences not giving a shit because they're too busy thinking how cool it is that the dude can turn his arm into a fucking knife. The T-1000 was NOT encased in organic living tissue, there was no indication that it was, there was every indication to the contrary. And when you have to resort to ridiculously elaborate hypothetical scenarios that have absolutely nothing to do with the movie just in order to justify it as not being a plot hole, then it IS a plot hole. Maybe the T-1000 could go back in time because it's MAGICAL. Whatever. The T-1000 does break the rules established in the first movie.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:23 p.m. CST

    This is Carlton your doorman—

    by blakindigo

    Where's the party invites?

  • May 20, 2009, 5:25 p.m. CST

    Harry hates it=good film

    by LoLWut

    Yeah this "review" coming from the guy who fucking LOVED TWILIGHT, stop reviewing films and just admin the site man.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:26 p.m. CST

    veebeeyes

    by blakindigo

    Um, not sure about that. Only living tissue could be sent back. Could the T-1000 be a hybrid<br><br> Ugh. I just read that back. Jokes welcome.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    And Mrs. Burton's character is the Borg Queen

    by Anal Inflictor

    did you think that was a stupid idea?

  • May 20, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST

    I get the feeling...

    by optimus122

  • May 20, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST

    veebeeyes

    by Six Demon Bag

    they never really said when they sent the 2 terminators back. for all we know they were sent yeard after the first film. or even if they were sent from the same complex. or the same time period. They could have sent the first terminator back (from T1) then reese. waited years, found out they had sent T100 back, stolen a T800, reprogrammed him over a few years, sent him back. when you do time travel, there are way too many variables..just sit back and have fun with the first two films. ignore all else.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST

    I get the feeling...

    by optimus122

    That McG is going to want that Terminator Skull back from you..btw , I also seen the movie and your disgust is completely unwarranted. Is it T1 or T2? Nope , but it shits all over T3 and makes me look forward to part 2 of this story.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:30 p.m. CST

    ***yeard=years

    by Six Demon Bag

    im an idiot

  • May 20, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    Plotholes about organic tissue...FUUUUCK!<p> IT'S NOT REAL. IT'S A ROLLERCOASTER RIDE IN AN AMUSEMENT PARK! Up , down, loop the loop...<p> Of course, rollercoasters make some people feel like barfing...

  • May 20, 2009, 5:35 p.m. CST

    You know what, forget the bad reviews!

    by BLEST

    For a movie that's supposed to be a pile of dog crap, it's racking up an interesting assortment of good reviews:<p>Detroit News, NY Daily News, Newsday, NY Observer, New York Times, Variety, EW, Total Film, and Empire so far say it's either good or great.<p>A big comment on the Empire review is that the Brits wanna know what the US reviewers are smoking, giving it such low marks. <P>And yeah, I know Ebert and USA Today and a bunch of others are slamming it, but if it was such a fetid peice of poo then wouldn't the negative reviews be universal?<P>I think there's more to it, and most people just didn't like the WAY McG chose to show THIS PART of the future war...or they are asinine and want Arnie and humor back.<p>Most "user" reviews in TB and on these review sites say that it's Good, not great, definitely not a Transformers type of film, and while it doesn't reach T1 or T2, it's miles higher than T3.<p>AND, it's a good setup for the rest of the trilogy... a bit like XMen 1 maybe?<p>My hopes remain high.<p>Balellujah!

  • May 20, 2009, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Add LA Times to the positive side too.

    by BLEST

  • May 20, 2009, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Wow...

    by fflatch

    Harry, I am never reading another review by you again.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:38 p.m. CST

    I'll see that movie...

    by Gluecifer

    For two things: Danny Elfman's awesome OST, and a few seconds of Guns n' fuckin' roses You could be mine...and the fact that somebody will pay my ticket. P.S.: I haven't seen Wolverine, because the trailer already looked aweful. P.S.: Star Trek was pretty good (even though the OST wasn't great, well, it wasn't Jerry Goldsmith, that's for sure!; there were too many unfunny and unnecessary jokes like the oversised hand; Sulu's character was underdevelopped, the bad guy's death wasn't good,...), but it wasn't overlong, it had nice SFX, it was OK directed (even though JJ will never be a world class director), that black girl was simply divine, the guy who played young Kirk was quite good, and...damn, Nimoy was very very very very moving. Best US blockbuster of the year for the moment.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:41 p.m. CST

    Don't forget 'Alice in Chains,' Gluecifer

    by blakindigo

    And Danny Elfman does some great work here.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    I wouldn't discredit this review...

    by warsinthesun

    Harry did nothing but swoon over McG's previous films, which were utter crap.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    I concur, LoLWut

    by googamooga

    It is universally accepted that if Harold hates a movie, then it MUST be good.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    All I'm saying...

    by veebeeyes

    Is that the T-1000 being able to travel back in time is a plothole. I just saw some guy above writing some long explanation about how the T-1000 could possibly incorporate living tissue if blah blah blah....and my point is, who gives a shit? Laserpants' obsessive hatred of T2 is ridiculous, but so is calling it some kind of masterpiece that can do no wrong. Yes, Terminator 2 absolutely had plotholes and violated its own rules, and James Cameron knew that no one watching the movie would give a shit. So I just don't understand the need to do that kind of fantasy mental exercises just in order to convince oneself that the movie was flawless. Yeah, it's a plot hole. It's a huge gaping plot hole, and nobody gives a shit about it. The end.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    For every good point in the review (Skynet not

    by CreasyBear

    killing Kyle the first chance they get, for example), there's some weird, pointless thing like Moon Bloodgood being part Korean, so how could she have Geisha make-up, which I'm betting isn't Geisha make-up in the movie. Or the belief that Skynet appropriating ILM would've been a great idea. Stop undercutting your own arguments, Harry. "McG has terminated my expectations" made me laugh, though.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Bones did you ever think

    by optimus122

    the reasons why people loved star trek and will like T:S is because they are decent films and your just a fuckin imbecile?

  • May 20, 2009, 5:47 p.m. CST

    I saw Terminator Salvation tonight!!

    by _ray_

    And it is BOLLOCKS. I went to a press screening in Cineworld, Dublin. Harry has said it all. Was the action really 2nd unit? That would explain the helicopter shot and I'm so glad Harry pointed this out, ''then the next time you see John, he’s like a SWAT member'' WHAT THE FUCK WAS MCG THINKING!?!?!?!? DICKHEAD!! Go see it for Arnie and Stan Winston. But the latter is surely rolling in his grave after seeing this shit pile dedicated to him. While I'm here; DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY

  • May 20, 2009, 5:47 p.m. CST

    If it's summer that means ANOTHER TERMINATOR!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • May 20, 2009, 5:48 p.m. CST

    And Harry I'm sorry but Inglorious Basterds

    by Anal Inflictor

    looks like the smell of ass smelling the smell of ass! But I'm sure we can look forward to months of your throating Quentin's saggy sack deeper than Sasha Grey (no disrespect to Sasha - you are my everything, girl). I used to think Brad would be a good John Galt but now I'm not so sure.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:48 p.m. CST

    WTF Harry?

    by Toby_FN_Wong

    Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. McG brings you a present and then you slag down his movie. Be a man and don't accept the present and then slag his movie if you need to. <br><br> Seeing as how you were positive about various previous movies and loath T4 I have to say I am looking forward to watch it. It can't be that bad because your reviews can't be taken seriously these days. You have lost your touch, dude.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Geez I knew this was gonna be bad

    by Crooooooow

    Ever since we learned that John Connor isn't even the real star of the film.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST

    no inorganics sent through time: a theory

    by zom-bot.com

    well, how do we know- FOR SURE- that skynet couldn't send back anything without living flesh over it through time, per stated in T1- because a war rattled, unsure soldier named reese said it was the gospel truth? were any of these humans experts on the time travel device they had JUST taken over from its creator? his 'truth' could have been an assumed myth, or hope, or assumption that beyond wearing flesh to try to infiltrate, perhaps skynet was developing organic covering so that it could partake in the time travel system it had discovered and created. just because reese said it, doesn't mean it was truth. even if he was connor's number one man...they both could have been mistaken.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Harry LOVED Indy 4

    by BoyNamedSue

    Which makes any of his review highly questionable!

  • May 20, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    this film must be great

    by Ray Gamma

    because Harry is by far the worst writer on AICN.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    harry- worst writer on AICN?

    by zom-bot.com

    perhaps. sometimes he surprises with knowledge of film and comparisons thereof- but for the most part you can bet the first half of the review is a flashback to his childhood and how- by some seven degrees of kevin bacon kind of way- he is connected to this movie personally through some namedrop or connection. then once you get past that you hear some overblown metaphors for how the film or a scene makes him feel that doesn't even make physical sense. then , very briefly at the end- we are either assured to put aside our doubts, minds or beliefs and see it- or totally avoid it and act like ti never existed. good job.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    BLEST does not exist in this dojo

    by Cobra--Kai

    BLEST, your name suits you for you are indeed a priest of Bale.<p> You have kept the faith though others have spat and mocked upon your altar.<p> Tonight you shall recieve your reward. A pair of Andie MacDowell's panties (soiled) are in the post.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:10 p.m. CST

    McG vs Sergio Leon

    by jonsnow

    McG should really study the films of Sergio. I think this would really help him . He cuts his scenes way too much and way too fast. I think that this film deserved a director with more patience like Tarentino or even Terrance Malace or both for that matter, they would make a great team since Sergio's influence can be seen in their movies.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    andie macdowell's panties?

    by zom-bot.com

    ew. i'd almost rather have roddy mcdowall's or malcolm mcdowell's

  • May 20, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST

    veebeeyes--but it can be explained

    by Six Demon Bag

    all these dates are conjecture so bear with me. (2019) Reese and Terminator get sent back. Plot of Terminator 2 occurs. (2035)Skynet develops new technology and sends back T1000. Connor and Resistence capture and dismantle T800. (2036) Reprogrammed, "T2 T800" is sent back by Connor. and so on. yes, it can be considered a plot hole because he didnt spoonfeed everything to the audience. What i know about Cameron is that he trims the fat in his films and leaves the good stuff.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:19 p.m. CST

    SummerDream, I kinda wish they used the money...

    by Mrhazard

    it took to make this movie and just put it into another season of TSCC, which really surprised me...<p> I remember watching the TV spots during football for TSCC before it debuted thinking it was going to be a joke (oh great, a 90210 Terminator!) but now I think it might be the best Terminator property since the original! The series easily exceeded my lowest expectations and now I think it rivals T2 in terms of quality. The cast, the action, the overall storylines were pretty damn good.<p>Sure, there were some filler eps during the 2nd season that could've been omitted but overall I really liked what they did. It remains to be seen if the 3rd season would've worked with John in the future and Sarah in the past but again I have a 100Xs more interest for seeing that than whatever the movies have in store... Maybe I should reserve my judgment until I see T4 but I'm going in not expecting much (like I do with all major motion pictures nowadays...)

  • May 20, 2009, 6:19 p.m. CST

    BoyNamedSue

    by drompter

    Indy 4 got a 76% fresh tomatometer. Go suck your own cock.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    this sounds better

    by Six Demon Bag

    all these dates are conjecture so bear with me. (2019) Reese and Terminator get sent back. Plot of Terminator occurs. (2035)Skynet develops new technology and sends back T1000. Connor and Resistence capture and dismantle T800. (2036) Reprogrammed, "T2 T800" is sent back by Connor. and so on. yes, it can be considered a plot hole because he didnt spoonfeed everything to the audience. What i know about Cameron is that he trims the fat in his films and leaves the good stuff.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Did T4 not have as many Dutch angles

    by Dingbatty

    as Twilight?

  • May 20, 2009, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Bones isn't an imbecile, optimus122

    by blakindigo

    But, those posts read like a long time Trek fan who demands a massive degree of fealty to the original source material—regardless of how stale, uninspired, repetitious or mediocre it has become in the last decade.<br><br>The new film isn't perfect by a long shot, but it certainly better from a newbie pov. Also, because it doesn't depend on knowledge of the original series, new audiences can get to know the characters through the later films as JJ Abrams and co. dig deeper into their psyches and build stories that don't rely on camp. Sometimes we need to get past our preconceptions to allow the movie to work on it's own terms, not our fan based demands. Look how many non—sf fans enjoy the movie and you'll see what I mean.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    by Cobra--Kai

    "McG has sparked a moribund franchise back to life, giving fans the post-apocalyptic action they’ve been craving since they first saw a metal foot crush a human skull two decades ago."<p> Four stars out of five 'Excellent' EMPIRE MAGAZINE review. Harry's opinion is not shared by everyone....

  • May 20, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Harry's biggest health problems is because of movies...

    by BigTuna

    Seriously, the guy is never not watching a movie. He's a film lover, I get it, but that's all he seems to ever do. Richard Roeper, when not seeing movies to review for his JOB, he likes to bang hot whores half his age and play poker in Vegas. I love movies, but I don't know how Harry can watch this much. After 1 film, I need a break.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    LOL!

    by Jak0lantern01

    I read Harry's review and it was so pissed off that I pictured Harry reading a printed copy of it that is soaked in his rage-induced spittle.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST

    High Expectations?

    by vivavitalogy

    How can anyone have or have had such high hopes for a film directed by the same man responsable for Charlie's Angels and Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Six Demon

    by Continentalop

    Sticky Fingers, fuck yah! I always play "Can't You Hear Me Knocking" before I go out every weekend. <p> Stones + Booze + Coke = Twilight Opening Day TB.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    since u hate t4 harry, wolverine was better right?

    by muri71

    i mean u didnt said something like that about wolvi?!;) u liked: spidey 3, indy 4, ff2:silver surfer, van helsing, twillight... what next 17 again is better than avatar?

  • May 20, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    T2 sucks!

    by ZodNotGod

    T3 is superior to 2 because it doesn't shit on 1. T2 is such an overrated mess. It contradicts everything the first movie was saying... Fate is fate no matter how much you try and mess with it. Undermines everything done in the first film. FUCK T2. Furlong is the worst performance in any movie of the last 20 years.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    McG and Sergio Leone

    by skimn

    mentioned in the same sentence. Its official. My mind's been blown man.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    Jonsnow

    by jae683

    For even mention McG in the same sentence as Sergio Leon, you should be beaten to death with a wiffle bat, or forced to watch Phantom Mence 100 times in a row. Whichever is worse.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Sounds Awesome from Capone's review

    by bullet3

    I want to see big future battles with robots. I could give two shits about "honoring the legacy" of the past movies. They'll always exist, and if this one sucks, it doesn't in any way change the originals. I think harry just has a fanboy vendetta against it. Franckly, his opinion isn't worth anything and his taste in movies is terrible. Vern's review will be the true test.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:31 p.m. CST

    after reading harry's Menace review again

    by zom-bot.com

    i can just see him dressed like a young jake lloyd/anakin with some sort of mini pod racer props tehered to his mobility scooter shreiking 'WEEEEEEE! I'm a kid again!'

  • May 20, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    this is the face I imagine McG making...

    by The Amazing G

    after reading this review http://tinyurl.com/ou824k

  • May 20, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Hmmm

    by jae683

    They nit-pick this movie to death, and yet the give a pass to all of Start Trek's gaping plot holes. Strange. Oh, and Anton Yelchin sucked as Chekov.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:37 p.m. CST

    STOP STOP STOP PLEASE FUCKING STOP

    by skimn

    Please stop with the "Harry liked Godzilla, but hated this, he liked Indy 4, I can't trust him.." blah de fucking blah de blah. FUCKING STOP. I like Rocky Road ice cream. You may despise it. Who the fuck cares. If you saw the movie and agree or disagree with Harry's review, fine. State your case. But one more "Gee Harry, you hated this but you liked "fill in the fucking blank", I will hunt you down and break your kneecaps with a sledgehammer.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:39 p.m. CST

    yelchin as chekov

    by zom-bot.com

    for all the glowing reviews i read about his performance, i found it to be possibly the most grating and cringeworthy stuff in the flick. however what i have seen of him as reese, he does seem to have studied biehn quite a bit...unlike the parody performance in ST

  • May 20, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    skimm

    by jae683

    Harry hated this but like the Phantom Menace. =0)

  • May 20, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Sorry skimn

    by Continentalop

    I thought you were impersonating my ex after I "accidentally" let it slip into her third input.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST

    yelchim as chekov

    by skimn

    Wes, I found his performance to be wery, wery annoying. Of course, his lines were written that way.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Anton Yelchin is the first actor I've ever encountered

    by smackfu

    where just looking at his face makes me feel like I'm being assaulted. Whether it's his ginger kid combination of ghost white skin and Tang-orange jewfro, or the fact that his eyes are perpetually locked into a bulging, startled doe-eyed expression of fear and confusion, I don't know, but seeing him onscreen gives me that panicked 'look away' instinct that you get when you see your parents naked.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST

    okay thanks..

    by skimn

    ...have to laugh..

  • May 20, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST

    yelchin as chekov pt 2

    by zom-bot.com

    plus- he was the only one that looked nothing remotely like the original actor. i started to see some kirk in pine (except for the hair)- and i just watched on old start trek and i'll be damned if simon pegg with dark hair doesn't look just like some early scotty! but i'll be damned if chekov ever had goofy white boy jeri curl hair.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Six Demon Bag

    try this--before a weekend ROCKS OFF. on exile in main street, then you got RIP THIS JOINT...coming down time play Moonlight Mile from Sticky Fingers. Cheers

  • May 20, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST

    JJ's Star Trek FUCKING SUCKED!

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    It's a fucking shit-fest of a movie.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    6 Demon - Best song to have sex to

    by Continentalop

    Bitch.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Any photo of Yelchin

    by skimn

    looks like he wet his pants immediately afterward...

  • May 20, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST

    This would have been my review of Star Wars EP 1

    by PorkChopXpress

    Change the names and setpieces, and you would have my exact reaction to the "new and improved" Star Wars franchise.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST

    TWILIGHT WAS ATROCIOUS!! AND YOU LIKED IT!

    by Vitter

    im not saying this will be good, BUT FUCKING COME ON!!

  • May 20, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    ZodNotGod--wrong about T2

    by Six Demon Bag

    i think Cameron wouldve realized during production that he was "ruining" the first film. Moreso, he actually extended and developed the plot further. he DID leave it open (see alt end sequence for final FINALE) for the audiences. T3 is altogether a differnet story. NO Input from Cameron. they basically took a story and grafted it to the franchside. it doesnt further anything that the first two hold so dear. It would be like Ratner directing Episodes 7-9, in Star Wars terms and not alllowing Lucas to input anything. You can look at the timeline for T1 and T2 and be happy that it has no holes. or you could look at the entire trilogy as a whole. they changed the rules midgame with T3.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:52 p.m. CST

    photos of yelchin

    by zom-bot.com

    yeah, it looks like he just popped a boner or got pantsed or caught doing something wrong. like even he's surprised he's managed to becaome a major actor in hollywood. however, if they ever choose to remake Weird Science- and you know they will- i think he'd be a good replacement for anthony michael hall's character.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST

    well