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Clips Featuring FIREFLY’s Insanely Hot Morena Baccarin As Nazi-Lizard Alien Queen From ABC’s Sci-Fi Drama Remake V!!

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Morena Baccarin: an alien so hot even Earth's women applaud her race's invasion! And as a bonus, here's a clip from ABC's Goyer/Braga sci-fi series "Flash Forward," which to me looks just as banal as CBS' Goyer/Braga series "Threshold": Thanks to James Hibberd’s Live Feed for the embed codes!
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  • May 19, 2009, 1:44 p.m. CST

    Love V

    by ClarenceBeaks

  • May 19, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Let there be Lizard Love.

    by ClarenceBeaks

  • May 19, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Orgies of Lizard Love Making

    by ClarenceBeaks

  • May 19, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Brilliant casting

    by twogunjames

    HEY, this looks OK! I was sure it would suck.

  • May 19, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Judging from two clips...

    by runrun

    I'll watch the pilot.

  • May 19, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Monica Baccarin can swallow my hamster...

    by Bones

    Someone had to say it first...

  • May 19, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST


    by fain88

    This looks not half bad. I'm there.<br> <br> Inara and Juliet's Fabulous Cans! And LIZARDS! What's not to love?

  • May 19, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    How do we know...

    by Acappellaman

    It'll be lizards this time around? I'm sure there will be many changes to V for the remake. The aliens very likely will look much different.

  • May 19, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST


    by chromedome

    that is all

  • May 19, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    If the whole show is like these two clips...

    by Bones

    Than I am hooked. I miss the fascist jumpsuits though...

  • May 19, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Has Potential

    by RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    I've really liked what I have seen and heard about this so far. I also like that ABC said in their press release it will have a set number of seasons/an end date from the very beginning. It's a miracle! A network that actually learns and adapts...amazing. I will definitely be checking this one out in the Fall.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Interesting her character is STARGATE similar.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    What are the odds.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:01 p.m. CST

    No Michael Ironsides....

    by harrys_site_sucks


  • May 19, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Second clip better than the first

    by Pohpat

    The special effects of the giant screens/ships over major cities/landmarks looked pretty bad. Interesting concept (must catch the original before this) but all I could think whilst watching that first video was that Elizabeth Mitchell should get back to Lost. Despite that I'll end up watching this no doubt, I'm a sucker for alien invasion stories. (Anyone remember Invasion a couple years back? That was pretty well done, if drawn out a little too long).

  • May 19, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    RichardAlpert_TimePimp, Because it has been done already.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Just cut and paste the original with new faces. Thus set start and end.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Acappellaman,David Icke

    by EvilWizardGlick

    In 1999, he published The Biggest Secret, in which he wrote that the Illuminati are a race of reptilian humanoids known as the Babylonian Brotherhood, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie.[

  • May 19, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    In the original V Script, there were no Lizards...

    by Bones

    It was just another humanoid race that came and controlled us. NBC suggested that Kenneth Johnson add the Lizard element to make it more "Sci-Fi".<p> It is going to be very interesting to see how this plays out. It seems that rather than NAZIs per say, the Visitors are now NeoCons. And considering that so much of what made V powerful included rounding up detainees and fundamentally changing how the world ran--and the rights that humans were allowed to have--This may very well be the new Battlestar Galactica when it comes to topical science fiction.<p> So long as God and his Angels doesn't show up at the eleventh hour, I am in like Flynn.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    don't ..not doesn't

    by Bones

    damn my quick reposting...

  • May 19, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST


    by Wrecks


  • May 19, 2009, 2:07 p.m. CST

    I was impressed with V

    by MonkeyManReturns

    It looks like it could be a good show...and lets face it - they have a great template in the here's hoping. And I had no problems with the special effects...there is a recession on, and budgets are not unlimited, so we can allow for some leverage there...the great thing about stories are, there are no budget restrictions on what the mind can tell the pen to do...lets hope the writers are given the space to perform... Fast forward - hmmmmm....

  • May 19, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    I wanna elevate

    by britney spears rusted clit ring

    Her skirt.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    So, the changes?

    by badboymason

    The Visitors are no longer all marching around in military uniforms? Is this a shift from the Nazi parallels, or will they simple be more subtle and also more heavily reflect more modern fears about government-influenced media which the 2nd clip indicates...? I think one of the improvements it could make over the original if done right is to have more characters who are shades-of-grey rather than either falling in line or joining the resistance... the original tried to do this, but modern TV is much more comfortable with "good" characters doing questionable things and redemption of villains so will be interesting to see where it goes.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:10 p.m. CST


    by badboymason

    IIRC, the original V concept, Wikipedia seems to agree: "In a commentary track on the DVD release of the mini-series, Johnson reveals that V was originally intended as a straightforward political thriller, charting the rise of a fascist movement in the United States."

  • May 19, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    meant to say

    by badboymason

    original V concept had NO aliens...

  • May 19, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Seth McFarlane

    by damned-dirty-ape

    Is it me or is that Seth McFarlane in the flash forward clip?

  • May 19, 2009, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Next season of 24 should be like V

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Jack discovers an alien group plans to take over L.A.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:19 p.m. CST

    It seems impossible...

    by Hugh G Rekshun

    ...but they managed to make Morena Baccarin look ugly. And I think I fell alseep during the clip from FF.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Wait, so new Diana is a member of the Bush Administration?

    by SpyGuy

    "You will have to be more than fair" sounds right out of the Karl Rove playbook.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Maybe the 'V' aliens...

    by Hugh G Rekshun

    ...are here to save us from Obama and his gang of tax cheats.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Perhaps they learned how to obfuscate...

    by Hugh G Rekshun

    ...from Pelosi and Co.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    This looks good

    by cylon_conspiracy

    I was a kid when the first V came out, I remember bits and pieces, especially the freaky lizard baby. That gave me nightmares. This looks like a high quality show, and I understand its only 13 episodes so that's probably enough to tell the story. Most good shows get cancelled anyway so we can see an entire story from beginning to end.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    And what's up with Baccarin's super-short hairstyle?

    by SpyGuy

    Not feeling it. Grow it out and reshoot her scenes pronto.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Brannon Braga= Bag O Shite

    by damned-dirty-ape

    Honestly, the man couldn't write about stink on a turd. Plus i wouldn't really call David Goyer a visionary. More of a sightseer

  • May 19, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST

    I remember loving...

    by codymr

    V back when I was a kid... It had cool spaceships, sexy alien femme fatales and lots of action. <P> But later I found Arthur C Clarke's book, Childhood's End, which shared a similar story in many respects. I get the impression Johnson took Clarke's story, tweaked the plot and motivations of the of the Visitors just enough so there would not be a copyright lawsuit and took out elements that would have been too expensive to film back in 1984. <P> A shame that V was not as original of idea when I first viewed it back in the day with 8 year old eyes. <P> But, this remake looks better than I expected. I'll tune in to see what they did with the material.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    It's not V...

    by damned-dirty-ape

  • May 19, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Is that Joseph Fienne?

    by Mr Walter

    Didn't know he was in it. It looked interesting. I'll give it a watch.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    To Serve Man

    by darebear

    They might as well start the show explaining that the aliens want to eat us. Just put it in the opening shot. No sense in holding that back for the two people who don't know it's coming.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    it's not V...

    by damned-dirty-ape

    Unless it has the always hard bastard Ironside in there or that Lizard Baby that looked like my Wifes Mother

  • May 19, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Can't believe no one has tried to cast Monica as WW!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    She would easily be on my list. Fuck Megan Fox!

  • May 19, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    HH...Monica as Wonder Woman.

    by StatelyWayneManor

    She is way too tiny. Maybe a midgit Amazon...

  • May 19, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Wonder Woman is not thin.

    by Bones

    She needs to be a tall, curvy woman who can do her own stunts. And mad props if she actually looks like she is Mediteranian...

  • May 19, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST

    I cannot spell. It is a curse

    by Bones

  • May 19, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Thats nothing...I spelled "midget" wrong.

    by StatelyWayneManor

    I'll have to either type slower or stop drinking. Guess I'll type slower.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST

    I want Visitors in red jumpsuits goddammit!

    by Raymar

    And get back to writing "The Cleveland Show", MacFarlene.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Looks good

    by David Cloverfield

    Remember Earth: Final Conflict? That started out good, and it was kinda like this. "Seemingly benevolent aliens arrive, change the world, but in truth they have sinister motives" But of course by the end of the first season it was unwatchable.

  • May 19, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Morena looks amazing. And...

    by DarqueGuy

    Yeah, I think that might be Seth McFarlane in the "Threshold" clip. I watched that scene again with eyes closed to see if I could hear Brian, whom I think is the character closest to McFarlane's actual voice, and it sounded fairly close.

  • May 19, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Remember, Seth MacFarlane is an alien

    by SpyGuy

    So does that make FLASH FORWARD one big commercial for Hulu?

  • May 19, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Noooo... Juliette needs to stay in Lost.

    by estacado1

    As she leaving the show to do this? I hope not. The island is not finished yet with her. Lost is way better for her career than V. She needs to stay. She has to stay. She's like Kate with bigger boobs. I want my 2 versions of Kate to remain on the show. Please stay.

  • May 19, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    estacado1...have you watched Lost recently?

    by StatelyWayneManor

    I have some bad news for you, sunshine...

  • May 19, 2009, 3:10 p.m. CST

    Looks like an Outer Limits episode

    by DrPain

    I miss that show.

  • May 19, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    "To Serve Man"...whoops, wrong show.

    by StatelyWayneManor

    I just want to coin "Eat the Hamster" first. Thanks.

  • May 19, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    StatelyWayneManor ... I saw it

    by estacado1

    If Juliette dies, then the rest of them die too. It's an H-bomb for god sakes. Just because it's in a well, it doesn't mean it's effect is limited to inside the well.

  • May 19, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    She is perfect

    by aversiontherapy2

    Alluring and alien at the same time, hot too. Flash Forward sounded hopeful but the dialogue is dire... "it felt like a future memory." Felt like?! Give me a break.

  • May 19, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    can't wait to see Alan Tudyk in V

    by oisin5199

    this actually looks pretty cool. Morena is just the right level of creepy. And, like Battlestar, if done well, it can be politically relevant without a clear sense of X represents Y. They can be neo-cons, they can be libs - insert whatever 'other' you wish. And even if we know they have a secret agenda, it's how that plays out that will be important. I hope it's not a clear case of black and white. Flash Forward also looks ok, and I actually enjoyed Threshold - it just didn't get a chance to develop (although that year, Invasion was more subtle and interesting).

  • May 19, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Just read Flashforward

    by David Cloverfield

    That scene is terrible. They put together the most exciting mystery of the book by saying "it felt like the future". How stupid can a script be?

  • May 19, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST


    by dahveed1972

    If the show wants to go for some semblance of realism, they should have the aliens admit right off the bat that, of course, they dont really look EXACTLY like human beings and that theyre just assuming a pleasing form to keep from freaking us out. The whole unmasking the alien thing has been done to death anyway so why even go there?

  • May 19, 2009, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Im scared.

    by diseptikon

    In V you knew who the visitors were clearly because of their alien voice and standard red jumpsuit. I fear this will tread into Battlestar territory with visitors hiding among us and I really dont have the patience to do this all over again. I hope they keep things straight forward and dont play the stupid early mid season reveal that character x was an alien this whole time. Us vs them. Keep it simple.

  • May 19, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    not insanely hot

    by TheExterminator

    by any stretch

  • May 19, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    It's definitely got a different tone...

    by The Bunglermoose

    ...than the original, and some of the dialogue in the second clip was a little wooden. How many times did she say negative light? But I'm intrigued -- I'll give it a chance.

  • May 19, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Call me when Braga dies. I want to piss on his grave.

    by V'Shael

    And make sure I have a cast iron alibi for his murder.

  • May 19, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    V'Shael: You'll have to stand in line at Braga's grave.

    by SpyGuy

    A shitload of STAR TREK fans are already ahead of you. <p>And I'm one of them.</p>

  • May 19, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    mmmmm alien lizards look yummy!

    by johnnyangelheart

    the other other other white meat.

  • May 19, 2009, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Seth McFarlane... you sell out.

    by V'Shael

    Are you so desperate to be an actor that you'll accept any old role? <p> Or did Brannon tempt you with a musical number?

  • May 19, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    SpyGuy. I don't mind standing in line.

    by V'Shael

    I just hope I get there before the massive tide of urine washes his remains completely away down to the sewer where he should spend the rest of eternity.

  • May 19, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    Looks like Frost/Alien to me.

    by TylerDurden3395

  • May 19, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    "We can't have anything that portrays us in a negative light..."

    by Mistahtibbs

    <p>Soooo, President Obama is an alien?</p> <p>Oh come ON. Somebody had to say it. Might as well be a Canuck.</p> MT

  • May 19, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Except the reporter would say...

    by Mistahtibbs

    <p>"Yes, sir."</p> <p>"Whatever you say, Mr. President."</p> MT

  • May 19, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Lol V'Shael and SpyGuy

    by David Cloverfield

    Exchanging fantasies of pissing a TV writers grave. So healthy. Let's drown the guy in his children's blood.

  • May 19, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    BTW. DEFINITELY Seth McFarlane in the final clip...

    by Mistahtibbs

  • May 19, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Oh, and the "V" series?

    by Mistahtibbs

    Wasn't sure about it but those clips have me interested and if they are going to have an arc with an ending then I'll give it the chance to pull me in this fall. But Lost and Fringe are still my first loves. heh. <p>MT</p>

  • May 19, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Marc Singer?

    by Primal Vampyre

    Was that Marc Singer dressed as a priest?

  • May 19, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Are the Visitors still reptilian in this reboot?

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    I wonder if their alien-ness will be different in this new version.

  • May 19, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    I gotta say...

    by Erik J. Pflueger

    These two clips have me believing that they have captured the SPIRIT of the original, even if it isn't a note-for-note copy. These comparisons to Battlestar may or may not be premature, but I can certainly understand where they're coming from.

  • May 19, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    She and He having a little tiff.

    by kabong

    Oooooh, I wonder if they'll get together. <P> Every show is the same. <P> Just do your jobs: invade/resist.

  • May 19, 2009, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Looks really fucking good.

    by Wolverines_Leaky_Workprint

  • May 19, 2009, 4:55 p.m. CST

    SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by TITBAG

  • May 19, 2009, 5:13 p.m. CST

    Fuck. I can't dismiss 'V' as I'd hoped.

    by The_Man_Behind_The_Curtain

    Well done. You've actually managed to get my interest. You look good. If you let me down, I shall unleash my wrath upon you.

  • May 19, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Brannon Braga...

    by -guyinthebackrow

    Say what you will, but if you're a STAR TREK fan you gotta give him props for writing the series finale of THE NEXT GENERATION. That was some good writing.

  • May 19, 2009, 5:47 p.m. CST

    It's the hooker chick from Firefly

    by cylon_conspiracy

    That was such a great show.

  • May 19, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST


    by FilmGuy125

    Starring Elizabeth Mitchell's cans!!

  • May 19, 2009, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Best of both worlds

    by optimus122

    was classic...they should have quit right after DS9. Thank God ST is now in capable hands.

  • May 19, 2009, 6:12 p.m. CST


    by J-Dizzle

    Boooooo I say! Booooooooo!

  • May 19, 2009, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Not Marc Singer

    by aversiontherapy2

    Joel Gretsch.

  • May 19, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Damn! Elizabeth Mitchell IS leaving Lost.

    by estacado1 <p>Ah. What a sad day. Got the whole off-season to come to terms with that. They better make it one hell of a final season.

  • May 19, 2009, 6:36 p.m. CST

    This looks pretty damn good

    by SmokingRobot

    In a b-movie sort of way. Think 'The Lost Room' or 'The Triangle'. I love that kind of stuff. It's like eating macaroni and cheese for dinner.

  • May 19, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST


    by ZodNotGod

    What is the fucking point of remaking everything? I thought this was going to be a continuation? Like twenty years of living with the aliens? Seriously, if anyone can't get into the original, they are fucking retarded and need to get an education.

  • May 19, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST

    V >>> Flashfoward

    by Kobaal

    Baccarin plus Cans plus Party of Five alumnus = I'm there.<p> Flashfoward looks shit by the way.

  • May 19, 2009, 6:44 p.m. CST


    by Pogue__Mahone

    I was a HUGE fan of V when I was in my mid teens... my 16th birthday cake was a big V with red icing! I had all the DC comics (Still do) and all the novels... this looks like they've stayed true to the spirit of the original and I'm looking forward to seeing where they are going to take it. And the fact that they have a set arc and they are going to be done makes me VERY happy. How many shows and good concepts are run into the ground just because they start out insanelly popular and get dragged on and watered down. Have a story. Tell that story. Be done. One season? Two? That's why television - a lot of it anyway - in the UK is infinately superior to the North American drivel. How many bad fucking days can Jack Bauer Have?!?!?!

  • May 19, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST


    by ZodNotGod

    A better idea would be to have a charismatic President swept into office by the idiot, gulible masses who don't read, don't go to school, make lousy choices and only watch "American Idol" and allow him to make us into a Socialist state- wait- that's already happening.

  • May 19, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    I've seen this already

    by TheEnemy8

    it starts off strong but ultimately the humans are too stupid to understand why anything is happening.

  • May 19, 2009, 7:10 p.m. CST

    That was....underwhelming

    by Yeti

    No weird voices. No uniforms. And since when do alien she devils wear corporate skank outfits? Meh.

  • May 19, 2009, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Looks CHEAP!!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

    A face instead of a huge spaceship? WTF? That's not V.

  • May 19, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST


    by ulcer

    when the hell this thing going to air?

  • May 19, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST

    I met Ms. Baccarin...

    by DarthCorleone

    She is beautiful and very nice.

  • May 19, 2009, 7:39 p.m. CST


    by frozen01

    Come back when you've looked up what the word "Socialist" actually means, please. Hint: It doesn't mean a 3% tax increase for the bracket that's been enjoying rates their predecessors (even those who lived under conservative presidents) would have killed for. <p> For the record, I don't think that "don't go to school" was your best weapon seeing as which college graduates overwhelmingly vote Democrat. And while I can't stand "American Idol", at least it's more entertaining and wholesome than "Desperate Housewives", a red-state favorite.

  • May 19, 2009, 7:42 p.m. CST

    morenna cut her hair?

    by Bouncy X

    my word!!! she had awesome hair too. anyway i'll give this a go. wonder if this turns into a hit, will they try and get actors from the original to make appearances?

  • May 19, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Insanely Hot? No.

    by snowpuff

    Very good looking. But insanely hot? No.

  • May 19, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST

    Morena is hot but she is no Jane Badler.

    by TylerDurden3395

    I got my first boner from looking at her on the cover of Starlog.

  • May 19, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    No journalist would go ahead with that interview

    by snowpuff

    ...when there are bunch of people in the studio around listening to the subject mandate the terms. It would be all over the blogs the next day. I'm not saying she couldn't make a deal behind closed doors, but that interview would be over in real life.

  • May 19, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Man I nearly busted a gut watching Reaper

    by chrth

    "Don't you only wear one suit?"

  • May 19, 2009, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Nice to see Tory from BSG again

    by lockesbrokenleg

    That was her in the second clip, right?

  • May 19, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Frozen01 re: ZodNotGod

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    1. Charismatic president swept into office? Check. See Barack Obama (aka Commander-in-Chimp).<p>2. Masses who don't read? Check. U.S. illiteracy = tied at 17th in the world with about 24 other countries. Fourteen percent of U.S. adults can't read.<p>3. Masses who don't go to school? Check. About 1/3 of all U.S. high school students don't graduate.<p>4. Masses who make lousy choices? Check. See abortion and foreclosure rates plus nos. 2 & 3.<p>5. Masses who only watch "American Idol?" Check. See Nielsen ratings. American Idol is top TWO shows.<p>6. Allow him (the Commander-in-Chimp) to make us into a Socialist state? Check. See definition of socialism (which, by the way, has NOTHING to do with onerous tax rates). From, socialism, a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole. See Barack Obama and the banking industry, the auto industry, the health care industry, and the energy providers.<p>To your point, though, one of the hallmarks of socialism is the redistribution of the wealth of high earners through progressive taxes, both of which (redistribution and higher taxes), the Commander-in-Chimp is on the record as favoring.

  • May 19, 2009, 8:57 p.m. CST

    I'll be there for the grave pissing ceremony too!

    by Maniaq

    I can see the Tweets now... <p> and call me crazy, but I got a very... Earth: Final Conflict vibe from those clips - anyone else?

  • May 19, 2009, 9:05 p.m. CST

    How come you can't post in Hercvault TBs?

    by American Mythos

    Are those just to make money from Amazon adverts? Don't get me wrong, I like 'em (I've probably spent $3,000 on Amazon products in the past year). Just curious.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Zod! What a coincidence!

    by Pompoulus

    The idiot gullible majority elected the last president too! And every president ever! Wow that is one hell of a coincidence.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:09 p.m. CST


    by Erik J. Pflueger

    I do agree wih that: yes, the character-drama angle seems covered, but at some point the Visitors are gonna have to whip out some spaceships, and in the single imnage I saw from the first clip, I really couldn't make out what the mothership was supposed to look like. This means either that it's just an undewhelming design that's not as striking as the original motherships, or that the angle was so off that it looked bad (which happened to the first picture of the new Enterprise, too, as I recall). They're dong great with the spirit of the piece, but they need to cover the fighters, freighters, etc. that are gonna do the job of taking water and people-food.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    yes - I see Earth:Final Conflict was ALREADY mentioned!

    by Maniaq

    just wait until Keith David makes that reporter put on the sunglasses! <p> yeah one has nothing to do with the other, but hey SOMEBODY had to mention John Carpenters masterpiece - which will likely make this series look like Rosie O'Donnell's hairy armpit

  • May 19, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST


    by Erik J. Pflueger

    I didn't need that image. Really. :)

  • May 19, 2009, 9:16 p.m. CST

    the Frozen01 re: ZodNotGod

    by aabiohazard1972

    that made me smile and warm inside, now here come the "more tolerant" lib/socialists/commies haters give it up guys, you won't change our minds, we won't change yours, can't we just discus movies here and not politics? that just makes me want to revolt and open fire to get it over with, and I would much rather escape reality for a bit instead, its why I like Movies lets stay on that shall we

  • May 19, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST

    They should do that on other shows.

    by gotilk

    "So Sheldon, you're saying you're working on your very own BIG BANG THEORY?"<br>or<br> "Bad boy, you stop breaking NOW... Breaking.. BAD!" <br>or<br> "My GOD, this science is seriously FRINGE."

  • May 19, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Teh Suk

    by gotilk

    Not enough room in Cheney's dick. Stuffed with Limbaugh and Bill-O. That does not sound like an appetizing sausage filling.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Oh, frozen01, on your educational assertions

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Re: Obama voters, according to cnn (, Obama scored his widest margin of victory (63% to 35%) among those with NO HIGH SCHOOL. He also did well amongst those with post-graduate degrees (58% to 40%), but among college graduates (who, according to you, voted "overwhelmingly for Obama"), the Commander-in-Chimp won by the runaway margin of 50% to 48%, which is apparently "overwhelming" where you come from?!?!?! Even if one lumps college grad AND post-grad, the Messiah's (who, by the way, still has us in Iraq and Afghanistan, who continues warrantless wiretaps, won't release photos, and hasn't closed Gitmo) margin of victory is 53% to 47%, hardly an "overwhelming" victory and certainly nothing like his lead among the intelligentsia of "No High School."<p>In conclusion, perhaps it's you who should come back when you've done some more reading and research.<p>Idiot.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:22 p.m. CST

    That was too easy.

    by gotilk

    Need to come up with something witty related to how fat the neocons here must be and how they couldn't fit up Cheney's dick. Back later.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    LOL, aabioharzard1972

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Despite my leaping into the fray, well said. Back to the V. Which, btw, I wouldn't mind exploring Morena's "v," if you know what I mean. Or Elizabeth Mitchell's. Mmmm-mmmmm. Lizard poon.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    short hair

    by Dradis Contact

    Is there a reason for it that hearkens the old series? I'm not a fan (of the hairdo.)

  • May 19, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST

    wtf is all this shit about Obama??

    by Maniaq

    you guys watching the same video as the rest of us?? <p> does she LOOK LIKE Obama to you or something?? <p> seriously guys build a fucking bridge AND GET OVER IT

  • May 19, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST


    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Totally need to go play "Reptile" by The Church while spanking one out to Morena in this vid. "Go now, you've been set free. Another month or so you'll be poisoning me, With your lovely smile." Ker-splat! Ahhhhh....

  • May 19, 2009, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Did you seriously just cite a CNN exit poll

    by gotilk

    to prove a point? Are you one of the statistics? Besides, I've met far too many completely functional idiots with degrees to lend your concept credence even IF it were based on anything solid. I'm talking absolutely brain-dead dumb here, but fully functional and productive. Which is fine. But most of the time they bring up their degrees when they are discovered to be uninformed. I don't have any USA Today charts to point to, but I get the feeling those people turned out in droves to vote for their patron saint, GWB.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Dradis Contact...

    by Erik J. Pflueger

    Actually, no, there can't be a reason like that; in the original, the hair was all presumed to be wigs that came with the fake human-skin. The Visitors themselves were hairless. The short hair was presumably an aesthetic choice either by the director/producer/bigwig or by the actress herself

  • May 19, 2009, 9:34 p.m. CST

    And these are the ad geniuses that came up

    by gotilk

    with the lovely concepts of "activist judges" and professors with intelligence being considered "elitist" because they didn't bend over in class and take the daily dose of reality-fucking Limbaugh talking points. Great way to move the country forward, folks. Call some of your best and brightest "elitists". Sorry about your C in philosophy. Must have hurt.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    And just to stay on topic.

    by gotilk

    I think her hair is lovely.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST

    I'm glad SOMEONE wants to stay on topic

    by Erik J. Pflueger

    Because I'm sick and damed tired of politics infusing every thread that I read here. Granted, V is a political story, at least in part, but I'm gagging on the left vs. right debate.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Gotlik (my dick)

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    If YOU'VE got some better stats, please feel free to lay 'em out. Until then stfu! You don't even make fucking sense. You've met "too many completely functional idiots with degrees" is exactly my point. 50% to 58% of them voted for the Commander-in-Chimp. Maybe you met the 40% to 48% who voted for Bush. Who knows? My point is that no matter how they voted NEITHER FUCKING STATISTIC IS AN "OVERWHELMING" COLLEGE GRADUATE VOTE AS FUCKNUTS STATED, YOU GODDAMNED FUCKING MORON! GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND READ! I WASN'T THE FUCKING ONE STATING THAT COLLEGE GRADS VOTE "OVERWHELMINGLY" X OR Y, YOU COCKSUCKING IMBECILE. IT--WAS--THE--OTHER--FUCKING--GUY, YOU TURD-EATING TOOL!

  • May 19, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    And you wanna see activism and community

    by gotilk

    organizing? How about we all pitch in and buy California homosexuals subscriptions to Guns and Ammo. Sleep well.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:40 p.m. CST

    .. little too close to home, huh?

    by gotilk

    DECAF! But not from Starbucks, they're against unions.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST

    I'm gonna miss the vocoder-voices

    by Maniaq

    the sunglasses... not so much

  • May 19, 2009, 9:43 p.m. CST

    Really I think she could pull off any look.

    by gotilk

    But she's also a pretty damned good actress. I just wish Flash Forward looked as interesting as V. I would have assumed the opposite.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    I'm a Journalist

    by ZooTrain

    "It's my job to ask questions even if it makes the other person uncomfortable." God, I love science fiction.

  • May 19, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST


    by Maniaq

    and the priest will turn out to be one of the final five <p> you heard it here first!

  • May 19, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    short hair

    by SylarTheCylon

    is a good idea, makes her look androgynous. Maybe they are trying to appear like angels?

  • May 19, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Who the hell claps after an alien ship appears in the sky?!

    by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon

    I laughed my ass of at that. Come the hell on!

  • May 19, 2009, 10:03 p.m. CST


    by Erik J. Pflueger

    I'm not surprised they applauded the "we come in peace" message. People love to clap and go "WOO!" any chance they get. And for some reason, it rings true to this material, even though no one ever applauded the message in the original V.

  • May 19, 2009, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Juliet should take a hydrogen bomb to that ship

    by zooch

  • May 19, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST


    by LaserPants

    I meant LIZARD PEOPLE!!!

  • May 19, 2009, 10:06 p.m. CST

    I Really Loved The V Miniseries When I Was A Kid

    by LaserPants

    Didn't it start out with two miniseries? I remember being really into it at first and then it sorta running outta steam when it became a regular series. This redux looks like it could be decent. I'll give it a looksee.<br><br> Oh, and yes, the Best Little Space Hooker in the Galaxy is hot, no, not just that, she's Cuteiful.

  • May 19, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    It looked like the whole world was watching

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    A L'Oreal commercial in the sky.<p>I'm glad to see Elizabeth Mitchell get work but damn I want Juliet back.

  • May 19, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST


    by gotilk

    I had to go back and watch again and you're right. I thought at the end she was going to say "easy..breezy.. beautiful". lol

  • May 19, 2009, 10:53 p.m. CST

    No one clapped in the original

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Most of them were scared shitless.

  • May 19, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Laser Pants - Yes it did start as two minis

    by MrD

    The first was awesome - a dark allegory of Nazi germany, with scientists insteand of Jews. The tone and allegory were lightenedfor the second mini. The TV series just sucked.

  • May 19, 2009, 11:03 p.m. CST

    PLEASE no lizards.

    by MrD

    You can do better this time.

  • May 19, 2009, 11:07 p.m. CST

    Press Politics... Grow up and get some perspective

    by MrD

    And get off your elephants and donkeys. Bush didn't invent playing the media, nor did Obama. Clinton was a master at it (negotiating a NYT interview in which they offered to ask the questions he wanted asked), as was Reagan. Being relevant means more than just bashing the current or former administration.

  • May 19, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST

    The first vid looks like a pharmaceutical ad.

    by Flim Springfield

  • May 19, 2009, 11:16 p.m. CST

    The second vid should be called "The V Word".

    by Flim Springfield

  • May 19, 2009, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Bush's manipulation of the media

    by gotilk

    .. worked out real well. Now the party is "re-working" and "re-branding". So yeah, great job. Criticism isn't bashing. It's what everyone does. And no offense, but there's always the requisite "hey guys.. it goes both ways..." guy. And to a certain extent, that's true. People disagree.. and sometimes people lose their cool. But "growing up" is very, very far removed from having a point of view and expressing it. I would say it's more "grown up" to be able to tolerate it without feeling like you want to throw your keyboard at the monitor. And it's also not very mature to make a lot of assumptions about people and their political affiliations without them being stated.

  • May 19, 2009, 11:47 p.m. CST

    She is the second cuming of Servalan from Blakes 7

    by toadkillerdog

    That is a good thing!

  • May 20, 2009, 12:01 a.m. CST

    what happened at the end of the original V?

    by Titus05

    did the humans destroy all the alins and the alien motherships all fled back to space? did they defeat them, anyone recall?

  • May 20, 2009, 12:04 a.m. CST

    ~Blah~! Not impressed...

    by ToMonicker

    Were's Diana? ;-) Yeah, there better be something more than Lizard People with the Human Cookbook for OmicronPersI8!

  • May 20, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST

    I sneaked a peek at this in LA

    by TheEnemy8

    apparently everything goes really well throughout the first episode, however, i never caught the end so who knows. the ship design doesn't look bad though the effects are of Stargate: SG1 standards, from like 4 years ago though. you can tell they spent time on some shots and not on others. and the first 10 minutes has some doozies in there including a very cool SPOILER jet crash. the humans get on the spaceships only after two weeks of...well, nothing. we don't see cause it says 2 weeks later then BOOM we are on the ship. so...take that as you will

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST

    gotilk what the crap is the matter with you?

    by Kai_Mah'gra

    You seem like a somewhat intelligent person so its somewhat puzzling, because almost everyone with half a brain who read 'The Bicycle Sharer's moronic drivel could tell that he is nothing but a retarded imbecile with nothing productive to contribute to human evolution. Soooo why the hell would you waste time (and valuable brain power) trying to engage him in a debate? The rest of us are not ignoring him because we can't argue with him, we're ignoring him because to do otherwise would be about as productive and useful as as trying to teach a chimp how to program a computer. Wait; actually you would stand a better chance with the chimp than making any sense to that dolt. The point is, stop sullying yourself communicating with that Neanderthal, and if you make like the rest of us and ignore him, or it, (it's only after attention, after all) it'll probably crawl back to whatever hole it oozed out of at Drudge, or Fox News or Cheney's taint.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:51 a.m. CST

    please stop with the political bullshit

    by Kobaal

    no one cares. what comes around goes around. there will be another republican president. after that their will be another democrat. each one will make lots of bullshit promises to his/her base and then get mugged by reality once in office. ad nauseum, etc etc etc... <p>really looking forward to V. Scott Wolf is the new Matthew Fox! You heard it here first.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:12 a.m. CST


    by gotilk

    Good point. True. I was waking up and just getting the juices flowing, so to speak. (the juices being coffee) I occasionally blow off steam in the direction of people who make no sense. I hope that explains what's "wrong" with me. Most of us here will fall into the cliches of talkback/forum behavior. I know people attribute tone and voice to words read here. And it's not always accurate.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:14 a.m. CST


    by gotilk

    How was what you just wrote not political bullshit? I actually want to know.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:22 a.m. CST

    I love the slow progression into a political tirade

    by billypilgrimisunstuck

    Don't feed the neocons! I have found that the most intelligent people don't need to spur out their polemic sentiments to feel intellectually superior to everyone. If you are convicted in what you know, what you have seen and have conducted systematic, analytical and thorough research, then that should be enough. If someone attacks your views with an equally rational view, then agree to disagree (which, unfortunately, isn't the case here). <p> As for V, looks good. I'm actually excited about it now. Although I will miss Elizabeth Mitchell on Lost =(. At least I get to see her somewhere. <p> And my hopes for Flash Forward has officially been squashed. I have always loved the concept of hopping over to the other side and remembering what you saw. This kind of ruins it. The music is horrible, the pacing, the dialogue. Ugh. I thought this would have potential.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:03 a.m. CST

    To the heroism of the Resistance Fighters.

    by diseptikon

    --Past, Present, and Future-- Its interesting that the Visitors are coming right out about the water instead of saying they need chemicals. Don't they know California is in a drought?

  • May 20, 2009, 2:21 a.m. CST

    re: what happened at the end of the original V?

    by snowpuff

    Julie sends a signal into space to the lizard people's enemies.<br> <br> (V: The Final Battle was not done by Kenneth Johnson. If you want to count that they kill the lizards with the "red dust.")

  • May 20, 2009, 2:24 a.m. CST


    by Kobaal

    It was merely an observation. Talking about a subject doesn't render that statement part of the subject.<p> But hey, this is a talkback, knock yourself out.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:25 a.m. CST

    re: How come you can't post in Hercvault TBs?

    by snowpuff

    Because someone might say "so and so DVD sucks."

  • May 20, 2009, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Was That Seth McFarlane In The Third Clip?

    by Media Messiah

    I think that was him alright?

  • May 20, 2009, 3:08 a.m. CST


    by gotilk

    Hey, apathy and pessimism has been a huge part of the political landscape for a very, very long time. I think that's a political point of view. But if you think it's not, that's fine too.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Media Messiah

    by gotilk

    Yes, definitely him. It's great to see him in a dramatic role. The only problem is, he's Brian. His natural voice is Brian. It's hard to hear that voice and not see the dog in your head.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:12 a.m. CST

    I love you guys.

    by gotilk

    But the dyslexia is rampant.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:57 a.m. CST

    I'd let Morena invade my face with her ass,

    by Dingbatty

    but there is no way humans would fall for that creepy, serene, hypnotist-like tone from giant, looming spacecraft.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:26 a.m. CST

    Seth McFarlane does not exist in this dojo...

    by BurnHollywood

    You sit there and pretend to laugh at and enjoy FUTURAMA, or just get the hell out of here.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:37 a.m. CST

    V remake looks cheap as fuck.

    by alucardvsdracula

    I prefered the original space nazi look to this white shiney shit. Awful, fucking awful looking load of donkey puke.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:58 a.m. CST

    Seth Macfarlane

    by spartacus728

    Yeah...I think that's definitely him. It is weird seeing him be dramatic...oh well, the show probably won't last anyway. Pretty poor writing in that clip alone.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:47 a.m. CST

    Insanely hot

    by The McPoyle Clan

    has my vote. The eyebrow/hair ratio needs to be adjusted, though. To me, more attractive than the generic, plastic-y definition of beauty embodied by Megan Fox and the like.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:26 a.m. CST

    So she takes the Obama approach to press conferences...

    by The Nihilist

    ...imagine that.

  • May 20, 2009, 6:35 a.m. CST

    McFarlane probably laughed at the use of the show's title.

    by Flim Springfield

  • May 20, 2009, 7:27 a.m. CST


    by turketron_2

    Our alien overlords fly their huge HDTV's over us and show us the finest of porn. I welcome them with an open fly and a handful of KY!

  • May 20, 2009, 7:30 a.m. CST

    they left out the part where she announces...

    by Maniaq

    they need to make way for a hyperspace bypass - and would you like to hear some of her poetry? <p> she had the short hair on an episode of Numbers (not that I watch that show) - I can't say it's a look I'm particularly enamoured with - it makes her look kinda like a young boy and I'm just not into that look, personally...

  • May 20, 2009, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Yes and yes

    by ATARI

    Yes, I would like to do her and yes, I'll give new 'V' a look/see when it airs.

  • May 20, 2009, 8:17 a.m. CST


    by American Mythos

    "Because someone might say so and so DVD sucks". That's simply bs, if you're right. Shucks. I've spent thousands on Amazon, in no small part to this site. They got my money. Let me TB where I want to TB. And as for the political bullshit, just fucking stop. As someone who's been drawn into too many pointless political brawls on AICN, just get a fucking life already. This is about V -- nothing was ever about Obama or the Democrats or the Republicans! Get over it!

  • May 20, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST

    and, and snowpuff

    by American Mythos

    That last part about politics wasn't directed at you.

  • May 20, 2009, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Looks quite promising...

    by photoboy

    ... but Flash Forward looks as banal as Fringe.

  • May 20, 2009, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Fareal: You don't need aliens to tell people there's no god

    by V'Shael

    Only about 50% of Europe still has some religion. Religion still exists, but is considered "quaint".

  • May 20, 2009, 9:02 a.m. CST


    by Squashua

    Ultimately, this will prove to be be terrible.

  • May 20, 2009, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Bicycle Sharer....

    by Unknown Canadian there some kind of joke behind "Commander-in-chimp" that I don't know about, or is it simply the most blatantly racist thing I've seen/heard in months?

  • May 20, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST


    by BAILLIE1


  • May 20, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST


    by gotilk

    Religion is kinda adorable if you really think about it. <br><br> Yes YOU ARE... you're a cute widdle religion, aren't you? YES YOU ARE!<br> <br> *throws stick*

  • May 20, 2009, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Look at me, did it again.

    by gotilk

    Yakking about politics and religion when really we should be talking about a show that will tackle ... oh.. yeah.. religion and politics. With bonus hot alien(s?).

  • May 20, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST

    Never realized

    by ZeeMcQueen

    How reptilian Morena actually looked. Still sexy.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Unknown Canadian: It's a Bush reference, not an Obama ref

    by chrth

  • May 20, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Or at least it was a Bush reference first

    by chrth

  • May 20, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Yeah, the "commander-in-chimp" thing...

    by Mistahtibbs

    <p>...had me wondering too.</p> <p>Dude! Bush ain't prez anymore. You can't keep blaming him for stuff.</p> <p>As for Obama? His politics are not mine and, I believe, will be highly detrimental to the US and the world. Also it'd be nice if reporters actually asked him some tough questions. As Dennis Miller recently noted - and I paraphrase - "It's a strange world where Miss California gets tougher questions than POTUS."</p> MT out.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    After all...

    by Mistahtibbs

    when it comes to Obama, reporters appear to have taken the V queen's request to heart..."Don't ask any questions that would portray us negatively."</p> MT out

  • May 20, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Wish Anna was called Diana other that that I'm on board.

    by Smashing

    V is an excelent slice of 80's TV and I re-watched it this year, still entertaining and quite gripping, I look forward to this remake, and that chick from Firefly looks sexy as hell and I'm gay so she must be doing something right or its the boyish haircut confusing me again.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    ...and this footage has me intrigued...

    by Mistahtibbs

    <p> least I have a replacement for Terminator:TSCC and The Unusuals.</p> <p>Don't disappoint me V producer-type people.</p> <p>Bicycle Sharer? If you're referring to Obama as CinChimp...just knock it off. There's so much rich material to mine in his politics, appointments, inner circle, actions, etc that resorting to DKos/HuffPo name calling is simply...silly. And it makes you seem a bit of an ass.</p> <p>Just sayin'</p> <p>I'll be watching V and give it the chance to draw me in.</p> MT out.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:05 a.m. CST

    warning to the present

    by aabiohazard1972

    Either political side can make the types of turns that the V aliens will be doing, that's the point to the show, be careful of cult of personality movements when they start strangling freedoms (see Clinton/Bush yrs), watch out...and yes this is directed at BOTH Dems and Reps this can happen here. now more than ever, this show could be awesome if done correctly as for the short hair thing, kind of gives here a lizard-ly like profile (not sure if they are going that way with this one) she is in fact Hot and slightly alien in mannerisms so I for one look forward to this

  • May 20, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Well, she does have the "crazy" eyes.

    by V'Shael

    You all know Barney would hit that alien bitch.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    gotilk: Adowable? Sure

    by V'Shael

    "Religion is kinda adorable if you really think about it." <p> Sure. The problem is with the people who don't think about, since using the ol brain is anathema to them, and yet they have access to some big ass weapons. You know, like the dude who thinks God is talking to him, helping him to run his country? Not so adorable anymore. <p> But those thousands of little believers praying to their sky-daddy, asking him to suspend natural law and help their FOOTBALL team to victory? It's like Santa for kids who can't wait until Christmas.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    You can't get more judicial activist than Bush v. Gore

    by Stabby

    It was the first time I realized we live in a Banana Republic. Oh, and she's hot! She was totally wasted in that PoS Serenity. At least Josh could have had her running around in a hot outfit thru the whole movie.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST


    by gotilk

    Yeah, kinda loses the cute factor when you're grasping around in a destroyed bus for your dead 4 year old's right arm.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    She's 30??

    by gotilk

    She doesn't look a day over 23 to me. Good genes.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:03 p.m. CST

    Dennis Miller

    by gotilk

    Is dead to me. Has been for years. And the reason she gets tougher questions is because she's an ignorant ass. So she showed her boobies. OH the horror. Heard her speak? It's like they put a Bond villain henchman's brain in the body of a cheerleader.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Nice Racism, BicycleSharer! Also, nice being a retard!

    by Bunger!

    Obama is the pimp, bush is the chimp, and you can suck a dick. It is FACT that the undereducated vote Republican far more than the well-educated. It is a FACT that the whole reason our government needs to get involved with bail-outs (and hence govmt ownership of private enterprise) is that Republicans (including quasi-Repub Bill Clinton) abandoned all reasonable government responsibilty for oversight (which government always has a responsibility for, in all realms, particularly economic and industrial), and it is a FACT that you, sir, are a grade-A boob!

  • May 20, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    And do not get me started

    by gotilk

    on the hilarious dichotomy circus that is the Miss California story. America, meet your subconscious.. might want to have a talk while you have the chance. <br><br>"Wait! Wha? Do I hate her for showing her boobies or do I love her for hating gays??" <br><br> If it were a star trek episode, and you were a robot, you'd start to smoke while proclaiming.. <br>does not compute<br>does not compute<br> Until you exploded. And to be fair, same goes for a lot of liberals. They can't choose between their repressed puritanical tendencies or their support of gay rights. When the liberals started hating porn, they lost me on some level. But at least they're typically smart. Smack a right wing nutbag with hard scientific evidence, peer-reviewed and substantiated some time. It's like a combination of a deer in headlights and a judge at a witch trial. Fight or flee, one free radical encounter with a brain cell away from a close encounter with the grill of a Studebaker. I SHIT Miller quality material.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Liberals don't hate porn...

    by Bunger!

    ... I'm confused. It's the right wing that basically hates all things sexual and all things free-speech related. What gives with these inaccurate generalizations by the facist-partiers?

  • May 20, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Wish her hair was longer but Monica looks great

    by Tacom

    And both the extreme right and left have both been responsible for mass genocides. Hitler and Stalin. So I don't think either should be dominant.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST


    by gotilk

    you are spot on absolutely right. I meant to specify. The left wing in other countries like Canada and the UK have embraced anti-porn stances a little more often than in the US. (Canada's white ribbon campaign of a few years back comes to mind) And there has been a bit of the more radical left wing feminism that has considered pornographers rapists here in the US. I should have been a little more specific. My bad. You are absolutely accurate there, in my opinion.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Tacom. I really like the short hair, it's growing on me.

    by gotilk

    But the liberals want to do it for all the right reasons! lol <br> <br> It is true that the right meets the left at the barrier of fascism and "friendly fascism" which is, of course, for your own good. ;)

  • May 20, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Here's where I think the left goes wrong.

    by gotilk

    When it embraces religion in the name of tolerance. Tolerate all you want, but don't start capitulating to goofball sharia law and their ilk if you want to be taken seriously and advance your movement toward progressive thought.

  • May 20, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    gotilk, boy, you're arguments are all over the map

    by Stabby

    I thought liberals were intolerant of religion?! Oh, except when their defending jihad. The ACLU defends Christian rights more often than you'd think.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Look lame. And she's not hot...and has no presence.

    by Ash Talon

    Sorry, that chick has no presence. She's just not appealing or interseting to any way. <p> So alien spaceships have giant tv screens on their bottoms? Really unimpressive way to have aliens address the populace. <p> I might try this when it comes out, because I love the first V mini-series. The 2nd was far worse. And I think I've purged the TV show from my memory. This just doesn't look appealing in any way.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:21 p.m. CST


    by Henry Fool

    I watched the original mini-series when it aired. I haven't seen it since so I don't know how well it's aged. The nazi-neocon shift in allegorical critiquing is certainly valid. Especially if they give us a black, puppet president who does nothing to fix the damage they've caused.<br /> <br /> I mean, come on, 50% of the wealth in America is owned by its 300 richest citizens. They've gotten so rich that the only way they can squeeze us any further is by making everyone else poor. They tell us there's an economic crisis. And fucking Barak Obama wants to bail out the banks? With our tax dollars. I'd say call his presidency as big a joke as W's except we really did elect our boy Hussein.<br /> <br /> Yes. This is truly a good time for sci-fi allegories that rip on the establishment. I wonder if they'll kill Martin again and have the same actor play his brother. Maybe they could use that plot device as a metaphor for how we elect politicians. I hope we get to see Moreena swallow a hamster. She's not as sexy without her long hair. Something about her with a Terri Bauer do kinda scares me.

  • May 20, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST


    by J-Dizzle

    That chick ain't wearing any red and black leather! What is the world coming to when a hot she-alien on V doesn't wear any red and black leather?? Come on people, we need to boycott this travesty!

  • May 20, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Is today's scifi slow-moving and dreamlike?

    by Yotz Von Frelnik

    It seems like that's what a lot of sf is being made like now. Long, ponderous scenes where people speak in calm, thoughtful tones against a gentle ambience in the background. Oh, and muted colors too. The new Day the Earth Stood Still is another example.

  • May 20, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    V for VAGINA

    by turketron_2

  • May 20, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST


    by gotilk

    Make sense please.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST

    I don't mean to sound nasty.

    by gotilk

    But it's not too difficult to grasp. I don't fall in line. I'm not centrist either. At the same time I'm not one of those guys that say "it's bad on both sides man, we're all fucked". If that means I sound "all over the place", then maybe that's the case. But at least I don't suck up talking points and fire them out my ass in forums.

  • May 20, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    gotilk, I'll give you credit for your centrist view

    by Stabby

    But, liberals defending sharia laws is a right wing radio talking point. I just thought it was interesting that you are saying that liberals shouldn't defend religion when most right wingers say that liberals are anti-religion. You also say that liberals are anti-porn when conservatives are the traditional champions against porn, although as you note they often find any unlikely ally in liberal feminists.

  • May 20, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    I would be kinda cool if all the aliens were hot chicks.

    by TheSultanOfErato

    Like old 50s Sci-Fi B movies.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:07 p.m. CST

    I want the vibrating voices back.

    by Smashing

    They where a cool touch in the original.

  • Liberals = big Government = more rules. Liberals = V. Oh and Morena had a huge role on Stargate that is very similar to V... yet no mention?! BTW they ARE LIZARDS if you haven't seen the new trailer yet!

  • May 20, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST


    by The_Floating_Skull_of_Robert_Loggia


  • May 20, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Joss Whedon Would Have Made it Better

    by The_Floating_Skull_of_Robert_Loggia

    The aliens would say funny, hip things like "Oh snap!" and there'd be, like, a brooding, cute alien guy and the hot human chick would, like, fall in love with him, and together they'd start a detective agency where they'd dress like cowboys and fly around in a spaceship pursuing models with no memories. Yes, Joss Whedon is a god.

  • May 20, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Wow, things I'd rather do than watch this remake

    by Jake_Holman

    1. Punch myself in the back of the throat with hobo dick. <br> 2. Mainline Elmer's Glue All. <br> 3. Receive analingus from a Komodo Dragon. <br> 4. Watch any other show featuring the cast-offs of Firefly (or Buffy or Angel) (but only of the other three are unavailable). <br> 5. Watch Firefly.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST

    They're still lizards

    by cylon_conspiracy

    They have the preview online now and they are still the oldshcool lizards underneath human skin. Bet there will be another baby birth scene.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST


    by Kobaal

    Earlier I was going to write something about wanting to join the Ori, but it seemed too obvious.<p> Sure there are parallels but this is with more money and less camp, so lets roll with it.

  • May 20, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST


    by Kobaal

    In many ways, the right/left divide has fucked your country over. It's just too extreme. The impression foreigners get is that all republicans live in Texas, have an IQ below 100, believe in the literal truth of the bible, own 12 guns and marry their cousin.<p> All democrats, on the other hand, live in san francisco, are gay, black (or at least 'minority' in some way), vegan, atheist, drive a prius, are insufferably smug, and hate America.<p> Yes, these are stereotypes. But instead of trying to dispel these myths, it's almost like commentators in your country REVEL in the schism, in an ever uglier us-vs-them cultural war. For every Rush there is a Kos. For every O'Reilly there is an Olbermann. Imagine being a pragmatic rational centrist. You'd hang yourself!<p> One other thing, Miss California. The treatment meted out to her for exercising her right to free speech was fucking disgusting. Why haven't the same comments been thrown at Obama, who has *exactly the same position*? The left has a long and sad record of cowardly hypocrisy.<p> Also, it would be nice if people stopped using the term 'neo-cons' to mean conservatives. It's boring and pathetic and inaccurate.

  • May 20, 2009, 8:11 p.m. CST


    by aabiohazard1972

    "gotilk by Kobaal May 20th, 2009 05:46:04 PM In many ways, the right/left divide has fucked your country over. It's just too extreme. The impression foreigners get is that all republicans live in Texas, have an IQ below 100, believe in the literal truth of the bible, own 12 guns and marry their cousin." Well I like the question allow me to at least try to dispel this much at least I Live in Texas but was born in Virginia I was republican until I no longer felt like they represented me or my views at all, Now I am Libertarian my IQ test was 132 which I consider to be of us geeks at least commonplace, I do believe in the literal truth of the Bible, were somethings left out? yes, spirit of the story has remained intact however; Over the years I have learned that there is in fact...more to learn I married not my cousin but a very good looking Hottie 1/2 Hispanic 1/2 white girl (NON COUSIN mind you) giving me two wonderful Irish Mexican kids (that's passion people for sure), and I own 14 guns of varying caliber (I like options after all been military for 15 years, shit happens and you never know when a zombie outbreak is about to occur...made someone laugh at least) can't speak for the Dems as I no longer have any of them as friends, apparently I am intolerant and stubbornly close-minded all because I said I understand their view but won't change mine...nice so much for freedom of speech , apparently only applied to them NOW I figured you asked a good question and it deserved a response I thank you for pointing out the one thing I have been shouting to all who will hear United we stand...Divided we fall watch V learn enjhoy and lets set things right or fight it out at this point I care not which one I get anymore thanks for the mental massage Kobaal, you are more than welcome to visit Texas, no matter your view...besides you need to visit the legendary Alamo Harry keeps salivating over See Ya.

  • May 20, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST


    by Kobaal

    No worries mate. I have a great deal of affection for the US and want it to succeed. In many ways the US really is the light on the hill, but sadly a lot of that is lost in the current bitter partisan struggles.<p> When I eventually visit I'd like to see the north east, Florida (space centre - nerd alert), Texas and California (and perhaps Hawaii).

  • May 20, 2009, 8:46 p.m. CST

    Looks a bit stupid.

    by Bob Cryptonight

    Like the original.

  • May 20, 2009, 10:45 p.m. CST


    by Unknown Canadian

    ...Rush is Canadian.

  • May 20, 2009, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Unknown Canadian

    by Kobaal

    You must be so proud ;)

  • May 20, 2009, 11:22 p.m. CST


    by aabiohazard1972

    Visit Kennedy Space center Florida for certain I went way back late 80's Visit New York (everyone must see, especially WTC site I was there 7th OCT 2001 helping dig through debris , its hallowed ground now but I still feel pride in the NYC FD and PD depts, United we all were then) See Gettysburg PA (if civil war buff) or anywhere in my old home of Virginia (most battles fought there were huge) visit Smithsonian in DC and see the sites in Texas visit Austin, pretty much all that's anything in Texas is there or an hour from there and last Enjoy Hawaii after all they gave us the awesomeness of LOST... and hot chicks in nearly nothing skip CA, they are on verge of riots plus most movie stuff is moving away from there unless you have an insider who can get you in to the "In crowd" spots best of luck and good hunting

  • May 20, 2009, 11:39 p.m. CST

    by Unknown Canadian

    ...I AM proud. ...I'll take Geddy Lee over some ass who calls his own black President a chimp any day!

  • May 21, 2009, 12:47 a.m. CST


    by Kobaal

    sorry, you've lost me... you're proud of rush limbaugh? who is geddy lee?

  • May 21, 2009, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Remember, Being wrong just means you've

    by gotilk

    ..learned something new! <br> <br> Stabby: I really wish it were just a right wing radio talking point. It's that dichotomy again. Sometimes people can't stand it when some asswipe they hate says something that happens to be true. Every movement/trend/revolution has it's dark corners. I just find that classic liberalism has fewer. That doesn't mean we can ignore it just because some talk radio gasbag happened to get one thing right.<br> <br> Kobaal: Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Neo-con unfortunately still applies in a lot of cases. Young Limbaugh listeners that think watching South Park (which I find hilarious, not knocking it) lets them off the hook for being brain-dead me-toos are all over the place. And while I don't task myself with coming up with a new term for them other than young neo-cons, I find the term "south park conservative" disingenuous. I don't go throwing the neo-con thing around all the time, but sometimes it.. just.. applies. I'm not happy with labels, but sometimes if something is ugly, it just is. Refusing to categorize it as such just sounds like you're afraid of admitting to yourself that it's ugly. Too many of us want to FEEL comfortable, FEEL like we're on the right side, FEEL safe. Instead of facing the fact that comfort isn't good as a constant state, being on the right side only works if you're winning AND willing to ignore the misdeeds of your peers in silence.. and no-one is EVER safe. Being aware of some of these things makes it very difficult for me to convince people that I'm a generally optimistic person and typically makes me silent during dinner conversation.

  • May 21, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Yes, there are conservatives who are culturally aware

    by cylon_conspiracy

    The only reason South Park is ever referenced is it is probably the only youth oriented, pop-culture show that tends to have conservative views. It is an anomaly. If it weren't so good, it would have been kicked off the air by now. Also Limbaugh's audience is usually more informed, and from different sources than the liberals who are being criticized. But it is this exact polarization between right and left that has turned me off of politics. People are individuals... and trying to paint individuals with broad strokes just to fit them in convenient little boxes is ridiculous. Not everyone can be pigeonholed like that. The word neo-con is a childish attempt to conjure up the image of a neo-nazi when thinking of conservatives. It's ridiculous.

  • May 21, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Neo just means new.

    by gotilk

    ..the more you know. But honestly, I think most people know that. There's that optimism thing again.

  • May 21, 2009, 7:03 p.m. CST

    They are Lizards

    by TygerClaw

    The Full Preview Trailer for V does reveal that they are lizards. Watch for the bit at the end of the preview.

  • May 21, 2009, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Neo is also the guy from the Matrix

    by cylon_conspiracy

    But you and I both know the term Neo-Con is used because it conjures images of Neo-Nazi. It's used to associate conservatives with a notorious fascist regime. That is the intention.

  • May 22, 2009, 4:13 a.m. CST

    Wonder Woman is not Thick either...

    by Monkey_King

    or overly muscled like one of the females you'd see in competition within the pages of 'Muscle & Fitness.' Morena, Megan Fox and Shannon Elizabeth all possess qualities that would be perfect for the Amazon from Themyscira-turned super heroine.

  • May 22, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST


    by gotilk

    No, I'm pretty sure that's just convenient revisionism. It means NEW. Even in the nazi context. But Godwin's Law determines you killed the thread anyway. If we're not going to give credit to people for being smarter than an empty ball point pen, *I* at least have to insist on the responsibility of individuals to be smart enough to know better.

  • May 22, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST


    by gotilk

    Oh yes they do indeed. Type it again, this time slowly.

  • May 23, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Wonder Woman needs

    by V'Shael

    to be a woman who is beautiful but in a secondary way. She should have presence first, and be beautiful second. Girls like Megan Fox or Scarlett Johannson are gorgeous first, and talented second. Someone like Jennifer Garner, IMO, has presence first, and is a hottie second. But I think her turn as Electra ruined any chance of her playing Wonder Woman.