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The Ultimate Screening Of JJ's STAR TREK!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... It seems that Kirk, Sulu & Chekov are aboard the International Space Station hunkered around a laptop watching JJ's STAR TREK in OUTER SPACE!!! Ok - it isn't Kirk, Sulu and Chekov... it isn't even that actors playing them. It's an American, a Japanese and a Russian velcro'd into place in the Unity node of the Space Station - and I'm betting they'll be watching this more than once up there - as they have one of the very few LEGAL copies of STAR TREK! And while normally I'd bitch about watching a movie on a laptop instead of in a theater. I'd have to say I feel there are very few people on the planet Earth that I wouldn't kill to be exactly where they are, right now, watching what they're watching. I get all goosebumpy just thinking about how fucking awesome it would be to be an astronaut in space watching STAR TREK! Seriously. That'd be like having sex with Megan Fox while watching TRANSFORMERS... but cooler! Here's the story!
Read the New York Times' story on it!
Of course - this would have been a cool way to see it too, but the Megan Fox / Transformers fantasy screening beats it.
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25 YEAR WAIT:
After the incident with the USS Kelvin, did Nero and his crew really just hang around the black hole for 25 years, playing Fizbin and waiting for Spock to emerge? Couldn’t they have used that time to, say, help Romulus avert eventual disaster? Turns out a major cut scene explains what happened during that time frame. After being rammed by the Kelvin, Nero’s ship was crippled; a convoy of Klingon Warbirds captured the crew and held them in a prison camp for all those years. Eventually the Romulans escaped, reclaimed their ship, blew up 47 Klingon vessels and returned to their mission (some of this is discussed in dialog which remains in the film). The good news is that these scenes were completed and there is hope they may surface on the DVD.
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...you're a fucking clown.Just so you kknow.
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May 16, 2009 11:14:00 PM CDT
Any one heard any news about Stephen Colbert's node?
by benlovescoolnews
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NOTHING is cooled than sex with Megan Fox. If you could stop sucking off JJ for a minute you would have rethought that statement. Fantasy or not.
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that's a good one. The idea of a 500 lbs redheaded monster passing the medical physical.
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need an edit button. If JJ says it's OK can we get one?
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is getting a treadmill
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well that's essentially what you just said when you mentioned Megan Fox!
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...Harry, NO ONE wants to picture you having sex with ANYONE.
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How 'bout having sex with a grown woman? Is that better than having sex with Megan Fox? Or is the scrawny little thing you're having sex with breaking in half what you're into?
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Fuck that shit.
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You're just not funny dude. I respect your site and all that you have managed to do but your attempts at humor are just embarrassingly juvenile. It is just gross and kind of pathetic. I'm really not trying to be an asshole, although I'm sure it probably seems that way. People read this stuff Harry and they form opinions about you and the impression you give with shit like the Megan Fox line is just sad. Enough with everything being about pussy and fucking. Don't you have any other way of describing things?
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What a dud.
I thought Karl Urban was great.
Simon Peg was really good.
Chris Pine was the weak link.
The story was terrible.
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May 17, 2009 12:13:57 AM CDT
Untrue- every cinema in the world showing the movie has a legal
by sydney2k
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Why do you guys feel the need to be such dicks to Harry? He put together a really cool website which I go to on a daily basis and I'm sure many of you guys do to. Harry deserves more respect than you all give him. Thank you Harry, I enjoy your website immensely.
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Saw this flick the other day. Great visuals, great sound, good acting, ultra thin plot line. Seriously, like they didn't even try. Then ending,...spoiler alert.....................................................................................................How the fuck do a bunch of wet behind the ears academy grads end up in charge of starfleets flagship? Yea, granded they did a good job saving the world and all, but a medal would have sufficed. How does that work? It's not like there were no other Cpt's around that have actually commanded a starship.
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May 17, 2009 12:25:07 AM CDT
Hmmm; I thought a naked green girl would've been involved.
by stereotypical evil archer
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Excuse me, I meant "too" not "to"
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May 17, 2009 12:33:39 AM CDT
The Ultimate Screening Of This Movie Would If It Were...
by media messiah
...a good movie...which it is not. This makes 3 bad major movies in a row. First Wolverine, then Star Trek...and now, Angels & Demons? Beyonce's film Obsessed is a mouch better film then all three of these movies put together, and Obsessed feels like a cheesy soft core porn film playing on Cinemax, and it is a rip-off of Fatale Attraction at that, still it had the audience yealling, screaming cheering and laughing all at the right points, save one, and a lot. None of these other films really acheived that, and as for Angels & Demons, there were none. I am not kidding folks. The best film I have seen in the last 6 months, I actually saw it, a week ago, is Happy Feet...and that was released several years ago, I think? I tried to avoid it, and I assumed that it was all hype, but Happy Feet is a truly great film and a classic!!! The new Star Trek is horrible...and illogical. Don't believe the hype!!! What the hell happened to Hollywood? Where did quality control go?
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get rid of it before it spreads any further!!
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May 17, 2009 12:40:32 AM CDT
Amended: The Ultimate Screening Of This Movie Would If It Were..
by media messiah
...a good movie...which it is not. This makes 3 bad major movies in a row. First Wolverine, then Star Trek...and now, Angels & Demons? Beyonce's film Obsessed is a much better film then all three of these movies...put together, and Obsessed feels like a cheesy soft core porn film playing on Cinemax, and it is a rip-off of Fatale Attraction, at that, still, it had the audience yelling, screaming cheering and laughing all at the right points, save one, and a lot. BTW, I hated that film too, but honestly, it was better film than the others! Yes, Obsessed had it's audience grabbing their seats, jumping, and gasping. None of these other films really achieved that, and as for Angels & Demons, there were no such moments. I am not kidding folks. The audience just at there, silent.
The best film I have seen in the last 6 months--I actually saw it, a week ago, is Happy Feet...and that was released several years ago, I think? I tried to avoid it, and I assumed that it, all the raves that is, were all hype, but Happy Feet is a truly great film...and a classic!!! The new Star Trek is horrible...and illogical. Don't believe the hype!!! What the hell happened to Hollywood? Where did quality control go? -
I think I'd just have it on in the background while i marvelled out the window at the Earth
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Right guys?
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He should have took the reins for T-3 instead of lullygagging around the ocean floor!
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... to patch up those gigantic plot holes and rehashed storylines? Cause if so I'd like to get that cut when it comes on DVD.
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The Ultimate Screening would be in space board the Shuttle USS Enterprise... oh wait. NASA isn't cool enough to name one of the Shuttles, Enterprise (That stupid prototype doesn't count because it's never been to space).
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May 17, 2009 1:14:22 AM CDT
Shermdawg: You Are Right But There Is No Edit Button Here?
by media messiah
I wish AICN had one.
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Angels and demons was silly, but it was a great film.
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Harry is a moron. Sorry dude but you really are. Reading your stuff hurts my brain. It's always juvenile and/or ridiculous. The Megan Fox comment is a good example of both.I'm sure you're a nice guy and all but you come across as really annoying. How again did you get this whole "Movie critic" thing going? I only keep coming here because I still have AICN bookmarked from like 3 years ago.
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May 17, 2009 1:33:37 AM CDT
I JUST SAW IT FOR THE FIRST TIME
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
AND IT WAS FUCKING AMAZING!!!
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>> PhotoSuperstar wrote: "Why do you guys feel the need to be such dicks to Harry? He put together a really cool website which I go to on a daily basis and I'm sure many of you guys do to. Harry deserves more respect than you all give him. Thank you Harry, I enjoy your website immensely."Well, here's my reply to you, Photo. I have NO problem acknowledging that Harry started a web site that became a fun place to visit. And, yes, we all like reading some "cool" movie news and then, being the geeks that we are, debating it in a talkback. No problem there.But for crying out loud, Photo, Harry turns 38 this year (yes, he's pushing the big 4-0) and he's a married man at this point, and yet instead of trying to sound like an adult...instead of gracefully aging as a movie fan and using his past and his background to become more adult and reflective and studious, so he can be taken more and more serious AS an adult... he's still trying to sound like a "dude" in his early twenties, like some bad wannabe that came out of MTV central casting for one of their typical shitty shows that always have that incredibly lame and groan-inducing tone of desperately wanting to sound hip and relevant.Seriously, Photo, ask yourself this -- don't you think it's a bit groan-inducing for a near 40-year old, a married man, to STILL be writing movie reviews by comparing them to "fucking" and "pussy"?
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Harry has pissed me off in the past with his rave reviews of some films; ie Undercover brother, undead, etc... and his poor reviews of some films; ie Xmen 3, but you know what, you're on his site reading his blogs. hollywood took note of him, and so did a LOT of film fans. Give the man his credit where it is due. and stop calling him a fat red monster, unless you intend to post a picture up of yourself with said comments besides, he's more like a big dumb ape. don't you just want to run around a field playing with him??
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Hopefully these guys will jettison this fucking film into a black hole where it will emerge 4 years ago and stop itself from being made - the wait 25 years for no reason other than to capture someone and make them watch.
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Let's see them continue the trend of alternate universes and time travel with modern takes on City On The Edge Of Forever, mixed with Mirror Mirror and throw in the Gorn, Abraham Lincoln and that hot chick in the metal bikini with green hair. And let's not forget KAHN! KAAAHHHHNNNN!
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would be to tie McG to a fucking chair and make him watch his Smashmouth videos on an infinite loop. Once Dick Cheney hears about this shit all bets are off.
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I'm just stating that it was a Good Movie. The 3% that didn't like it were disproportionately dominating the talkback, so I felt the need to chime in.
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You said: "But you know what, you're on his site reading his blogs. Hollywood took note of him, and so did a LOT of film fans. Give the man his credit where it is due." Gee, I guess you missed the part where I SPECIFICALLY said: "I have NO problem acknowledging that Harry started a web site that became a fun place to visit. And, yes, we all like reading some "cool" movie news and then, being the geeks that we are, debating it in a talkback. No problem there." That WAS meant to be my tip of the historical hat towards Harry.You then said: "And stop calling him a fat red monster, unless you intend to post a picture up of yourself with said comments." For the record, again, nowhere in my post did I pick on Harry's weight or appearance, nor have I ever done so in the past. So, I assume you meant for your statement to be aimed in a more general sense towards others here, who do engage in that kind of name-calling. Which I'd agree with you on. There's no point in getting down and dirty and in the gutter to pick on someone's looks. Certainly not when the thing you are taking issue with is their film criticism or writing style......Which IS what I posted about. And sorry, I think that IS totally fair game, whether you agree or not. Again, I'll ask the same question: don't you think someone pushing 40, who is a married man, who has to resort to reviewing movies as being akin to eating pussy needs to grow up a bit? Seriously, as a near 40-year old, is that really the best that Harry can do?And yes, there was a time when Hollywood did take note of this site -- but I'd also argue back that given the passage of time and the creation of more movie web site outlets, the so-called "power" that AICN might have once had has long since vanished. Not to mention, speaking as someone who does work out here in LA, I don't think many people would take a "pussy licking" movie review or the person writing such drivel very seriously. Believe it or not, Hollywood IS filled with working ADULTS out here, most of whom are hard-working, family oriented people who would look at Harry's "pussy" and "fucking" posts and roll their eyes.So to answer your final point, Benders -- no, I really wouldn't want to be running around the field playing with him. I'd rather be hanging out with my friends who are actively engaged in film production and who can treat it like normal, thinking, mature-talking adults.
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...about it. The film had a lot of detailed information and many characters, but it was easy to tell who's who, and what is what...and in that, it was easy to follow the story. Bravo to Ron Howard for that, still, the film was emotionless, and sterile. Again, you didn't want to cheer, their were no laughs, no moments where you wanted to scream or yelp, the movie just sat there. The film was also missing romance...and sexual tension...and played more like an apology for, and a love note to, the Vatican...for The Da Vinci Code controversies. Worse still, the scene where Ewan McGregore does something heroic near the end of the film (no spoilers), that was cheesy and near embarrassing. It just didn't play well with him running around pulling a James Bond in a Catholic robe.Lastly, Tom Hank's character is the lead...and when he gets into trouble, we know that he is not going to die, or be seriously injured, ever, so we could feel no sense of real jeopardy for him in the film. They should have killed his character off in the middle of the film!!! That's right, they should have killed him off!!! He was a target of the bad guys, so why not eliminate him? That would have shaken the audience up some--and of course, he could have been re-introduced as we learn it was a ruse to keep his enemies at bay. The film needed twists like this to better involve the audience, emotionally...and make them feel that he could get hurt, or killed. Also he needed a personal stake in the proceedings, someone, or something close to him should have been threatened as a part of the plot. The film looks great, but feels claustrophobic as it narrowly focuses on Vatican City instead of opening-up to a wider world view. It is a pretty looking film that is a boring film, and much too long. As for the action scenes, people are rush around shooting a lot, and there are many chases, but you feel nothing? The movie is guilty of being emotionless.
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so the Japanese and Russian crew members ejected the American into space where he was irradiated with solar rays, his blood boiling through all orifices and turning to dust, eventually causing him to explode into charcoaled flesh and bone.
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...don't amend that. If you have anything to add, just use that as the basis of a whole new post and branch off of it.
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Except he isn't.
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Knowing. That would have been better. Or maybe Moon would have been a better choice. I havn't seen it yet, but I'm sure it's better than Star Trek.
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James Cameron doesn't have anything to do with T4.
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Why would I want to stare at a laptop screen which would look the same there as on Earth rather than look out the fucking window? If you're so hot for the experience Knowles watch it on your laptop sitting in your closet with a jolly jumper on. Same goddamn thing. And for the record, I'm sure Megan Fox would barf in her mouth at the very notion that you'd mentioned having sex with her.
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I don't like the feature, but it always amuses me to see the incoherent and misogynistic responses to it.
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I've always wondered who was the grren hot chick appearing at the end titles of each ST TOS. In which episode can I see her?
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I don't think even zero gravity could withstand the weight of his bulk.
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That Megan Fox idea is fucking awesome. If there's ever a tear in reality and the whole universe reconfigures and I have the oppertunity to have sex with Megan Fox, I'm going down to Blockbusters to get Transformers. Heck, I might even buy it! Mmm.... Megan Fox....
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... is that I'd quite like her to fuck me. Go on, Megan, make a young nerd a very happy man. I'll even buy you a Mc Donald's breakfast in the morning to say thank you.
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After all that cool shit, just looking around their little tin can with tiny porthole windows. Solar panels, no antimatter warp drive. No hot chicks in miniskirts, no sex (presumably), no action. Just running little experiments...just like it has been since Apollo. Being an astronaut will not be 'fun' until we get the fuck out of orbit again.
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The Fure and the Fastrious
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Damn You Michael eBay
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I give it a B. Frenetic and full of misfires in plot and tone (the Beastie Boys in young Kirk's stealing-the-car scene? Really??), but saved by energy and the acting. Don't care what anyone says, Pine was absolutely terrific - near perfect, really. I totally bought his young Kirk. Quinto and Urban were also very good. A calmer, more disciplined story for the sequel with the same level of commitment from the actors and they may really be on to something here.
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Walls of Unity module suddenly all sticky, covered over in popcorn, straw wrappers, Goobers boxes... glowing green Exit sign, leads out into space... $30,000 for a medium soda...
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...JJ knows who to blame and because the ISS is outside of any legal juristiction (i.e. in orbit) no one can sue them. They're the ultimate Pirate Bay!
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May 17, 2009 8:15:58 AM CDT
Enough Star Trek already. Movie was good. Now move along.
by motoko kusanagi
Oh, and Steven Fuckberg can bite my shiny metal ass.Fuck him and McG to hell.
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Doctor Zoidberg is right, I bet after they were like "no hot green aliens, no warp speed, no phasers." Guess we'll eat some powdered eggs and check to 40 science experiments we're running.
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I never liked Star Trek, to me it was always second rate to Star Wars, and even when the reviews for the new film started pouring in I was extremely skeptical. And I wasn't impressed with J.J. as director, I thought that he'll never be able to shake off his tv roots. Even MI:3 looked like an overblown episode of Alias or something. It didn't feel like a movie at all. So I walked in to Star Trek extremely skeptical, but still willing to give it a chance because all of the positive buzz. And lo and behold the movie simply blew me away. Sure, the plot was nonsense and too coincidental, but the plot is the most superficial thing about a movie anyway. And they nailed everything else perfectly, and J.J.'s direction was really inspired at times (Kirk's birth comes to mind instantly). I'm looking forward to see this film again (probably next week) and can't wait for the inevitable sequel, J.J. made a believer out of me. Strange place we live in these days... When I was young Star Wars was the cool shit in town and Trek was mostly a refuge for the nerds, oh how times have changed.
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May 17, 2009 8:31:53 AM CDT
So if a pristine copy of Star Trek were to leak to the Internet.
by themikejonas
We know who the MPAA's primary suspects are going to be. :D
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you're correct, i was being more general towards everyone, and using you as my posting gateway. I agree his pussy reviews have been a bit on the 'off' side... but then again..... who cares. it's internet talkback - the most untamed battlefield this side of the wild west. Messiah, i found angels and demons was something that would appeal to the generation above me - Ron Howards generation. people like my mother & father.... and even my grandparents (if they were still alive). It had a good score. the visual effects were very good. and it felt like an extended tour of the vatican and also brought some intrigue into the symbology of statues and skulptures. Sure it got a bit goofy in parts, but so what? it didn't once feel like it was truely taking itself seriously - so therefore me as a viewer rolled with it. Hating on it is a big fat waste of time, especially when there was truely nothing to hate in it. plus all this talk of the illuminati leaving clues so they could get caught... well... if anyone actually watched the film they'd see that there is a reason why that plot thread took place. sure it may cave in under intense scrutiny..... but do we really believe 3 bears live in a house when we read red riding hood? Star Trek was fucking GREAT by the way. I was supposed to see it for a third time but accidently walked into the angels and demons screening. i wouldn't have seen that film otherwise. hahahahaha
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Man you are like the ONLY fucker on the planet that didnt like this movie, so fuck off dude no one gives a rats ass what you think. The squeeky wheel doesn't get the grease. You come off as just a tired sad, bitter jaded little fuck in the face of such a fun positive movie. Go back to your anti-heros and emo dark depressing shit. Optimism and positivism is back baby.
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Star Trek has mass appeal now because it's actually good again. Of course certain cynical fucktards at AICN don't like it, they still need to think of themselves as rogue non-conformists. Guess what retards, you're the sheep for jumping on the inevitable hater bandwagon.
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Wait until TRANSFORMERS 2 comes out. Because although AssimovLives claims he will never see another Michael Bay film, he won't be able to contain his pre-hate, hate, and post-hate after the premier. This "Jay Jay Trek" stuff isn't even the tip of his borish iceberg.It's going to be glorious in an insane and pathetic way. He'll be lucky if his head doesn't explode.
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with bodies being sucked out into space, while you're actually in space, hoping nothing will go wrong.
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...A) we all know she'd lay there like a vealB) the real MB has already held a one-man bukkake party in there along with David Silver C), and besides...who can get a hard-on while watching TRANSFORMERS other than MNG? :)
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TRANSFORMERS didn't give me a hard-on but Megan Fox sure can.And you don't think Fox would be fun?! Who are you kidding? She would......DESTROY YOU.
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Yes why is it that the 3% who didn't like it have to always try to be louder than anyone. A Napoleonic complex perhaps? Still it was a good movie and has already done over a $100,000,000 domestic. Not exactly unsuccessful either.
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...But only if they rename the ISS The Satellite of Love.
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He didn't do a good job as Kirk. Also, the movie wasn't that good. Shouldn't have had time travel. What a cop out.
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You'll find them in either the original pilot "The Cage" or in the two-parter "The Menagerie".
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May 17, 2009 10:14:50 AM CDT
Okay. Just seen it and I don't get (*SPOILER*)
by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights
why Nero waits 25 years for old Spock and does nothing to young Spock at all?I don't get it? If you hated someone that much and you knew the younger version of them was out there, wouldn't you hunt them down and kill them?
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Nero pretty much sucked as a bad guy. It seems to be the major problem of Star Trek movies; with the exception of Khan, they've all had shit bad guys.
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What is that animation up in the corner? I'm guessing it's a scene from the Incredible Shrinking Man. Since I've heard Harry has been losing some weight. It reminds me of the end of that movie. That being said, I can't figure out the title of the gif. "HARRYdr.gif"? What does the 'dr' stand for? It's Sunday morning and I can't wake up.
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Red Riding Hood didn't have to deal with 3 bears in a house. She was the broad with the Grandma eating Big Bad Wolf. Goldilocks was the chick down with the 3 bears. Get your shit together, man.
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this willbe the most fun and entertaining film of the summer.
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I thought the same thing about the Beastie Boys' Sabotage, until I found out WHY it was in the movie. It was a jab at William Shatner. There's an incident of him doing voiceovers for the animated series, where he pronounced "sabotage" as "sabotaaage", due to his Canadian upbringing. You can find the video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlOTRxt-dIw
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Last night I dreamed that Harry was out of the chair and running around the Town Lake hike and bike trail with a huge grin on his face. A very strange dream indeed as I usually see him at the Barton Creek food court. I wonder how his post operation diet and exercise program is coming along. Would anyone care to share?
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May 17, 2009 11:00:54 AM CDT
No Harry. Even watching Star Wars in outer space could not be b
by starwarrior
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May 17, 2009 11:01:44 AM CDT
No Harry. Even watching Star Wars in outer space could not...
by starwarrior
be better than fucking Megan Fox.
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Hey Asimov"Hey Asimov Man you are like the ONLY fucker on the planet that didnt like this movie, so fuck off dude no one gives a rats ass what you think"
Uh joshuavance1701 that’s BLATALNTLY untrue. If you read these TBs you’ll notice more (especially one time) posters did not like it than did.
And there are as many multi-time posters who hated it. This movie flat out SUCKED. It was utter drivel. If it didn’t have such a huge budget it would literally be mystery science theatre 3000 fodder. I can’t believe this has been hyped as a really good movie by critics. It would be funny if it weren’t scary. My faith in critics was pretty weak to begin with - I now literally have no faith in them as a group. The actors and the basic concept may have been mostly good, but the story and humor was mind numbingly stupid.
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Even given the dubious safety record of the Shuttle, I'd still wager you'd be better off riding several million pounds of high explosives to a paper thin can falling through a vacuum than wading knee deep into Fox well traveled vag.Then again..rumor in L.A. has it she is one nasty, Max Hardcore-ish lay.
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Sorry the film was good! It's already successful! Shatner has yet to say anything negative about the film! Nimoy obviously didn't have to come out of retirement ( he's not exactly broke )!
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You mean, they're gonna get crabs in space?
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Do ya think anyone has ever pulled out and shot his wad all over that white trash tattoo of Marylin Monroe on her arm? Or do you think they just aim for the bulls eye above her asscrack (the one everyone is asked to airbrush out) when they pull it out of her gaping rectum? Also...she is said to have a pierced Labia...hoop, barbell, or other?Just taking a poll.
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No kidding - especially if Leonard Nemoy was also there, that Opera House gig would have been the ultimate public screening!
I was thinking that this may be a new way to drum up serious cash, if actors/directors wanted to do it: have big screenings in select theaters where the actors/ directors talk/take questions before/after the film. The audience pays a MUCH larger amount for the tickets. Autographs, photos, T-shirts/etc available for more cash. Like a concert tour ("Star Trek Tour '09"). We pay huge amounts these days for concert tickets/tour stuff, and that's how many musicians survive these days. Could a similar idea/trend happen in the movie industry? -
Seal the deck!!! Set phasers to Pwn!!! Let no whiners escape alive!!! Peww!!! Beeeeowww!!!!!
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Starring Harry Knowles, Michael Bay, Mr. Nice Gaius and Megan Fox.
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He was distracted and not being professional at the moment.
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What more can be done to his diseased prick than already has?
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No matter how you may feel about Harry's reviewing skills, it's time to stop the personal attacks. Grow up and stop acting like the elementary school playground bully.
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CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS asked a question. The answer is Nero didn't want to kill Spock, he wanted to torture him by having him watch his planet being destroyed and also being powerless to do anything about it. Nero knew the old Spock had been dragged through the same black hole as him, so he bided his time until Spock eventually arrived. He didn't know it'd take 25 years but was prepared to wait. I thoughly enjoyed it and thought it captured more of the original mood of the franchise than any other spin-off or new generation could in the past. I look forward to the sequel.
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MCCOY I need another antibiotic shot in 5 minutes or we’re all dead!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21H2cvw7xRI&feature=related
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I've been reading comments over the last few weeks criticizing just about everything Harry has said or done. I come to this site every few days or so to see what’s going on in the world of Sci Fi movies and events, and to read about a lot of the excitement of the genre that Harry and the other contributor’s seem to have. I don’t always agree with them, but it’s great to see that they’re as keyed up about some of the same things that I am. They’re not perfect, but they’re doing their thing the best way they know how.
About the new movie: I loved Star Trek when I was a young teenager. I watched the show in re-runs when I was a bored kid in the early 1970’s and was instantly hooked. The Kirk/Spock/McCoy thing was awesome to me. I read all of the James Blish novels, and a dozen or so of the early books that came out after the show was a hit in reruns. The old movies were a mixed bag for me. I only really liked 2 and 4, and don’t remember much about the others. I saw Shatner and Nimoy at the only convention I ever attended (and ever will) in the early 1990’s in Seattle and felt like a total geek, except that I had fun with my friends.
I liked the new Star Trek movie a lot, but it is far from perfect. Lots of script holes and very lucky coincidences, Nero hang out for 25 years just to emotionally wound Spock, shaky and dizzying camera work, just to mane a few. All that and I still liked it. I have also been watching the old shows again with my 9 year old son and it’s interesting that the shows share many of the same flaws as the movie. My favorite episode for instance, Balance of Terror, is amazing and mundane, exciting and dull, the plot both engaging and predictable. Just like the new movie. I like the new movie mostly because I’ve been waiting for over 30 years to see more classic Trek, more Kirk/Spock/McCoy, more fun, more camaraderie, more good-natured jibes between freinds, and more guys in red shirts not making it back to the ship. The movie delivered all of this for me, and more.
That said, what the hells wrong with some of you guys? I read your comments and they’re mostly backhanded slaps at people you don’t even know. Your criticism is fine, but go back and re-read some of your comments and ask yourself if you’ve really added anything of value to this site. Have some patience with other people, comment on their work in the same way you would if you were face-to-face with them in public. Anything else is cowardice. Above all, if you don’t have any respect for Harry and the others who editorialize at this site, then do us a favor and just go away. We won’t miss you. Really. There are lots of places on the internet to go to improve your internet badass status, where other people share your lack of respect and understanding for people who are trying to create something worthwhile and entertaining for movie fans.
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Here's what's laughable - A bunch of self-proclaimed faux-intellectual elitist movie afficianados that are just DYING to be heard in the world hype up a shitfest film like Watchmen or Wolverine, they fucking Bomb-underperform, then a little film everybody and their fucking bother was ready to hate pops up and decimates critical and audience expectations by being a stellar film, FAR exceeding even studio predictions of popularity, and these 4 or 5 piece pretentious self-inflating windbag ass chunks endlessly post about their entirely skewed perceptions on not only what constitutes GOOD Trek, but good films in General. FUCK YOU three idiots. I'm calling it right now just like I called this film being a hit 6 months ago, I guaran-fucking-tee you when this year is over, yes, Transformers and Terminator will perform better, but Star Trek will be the fun-thrill ride everyone remembers as the star of year 2009. Star Trek is doing something these other God damn films WISHED they could do- it's breaking the generational gap, drawing in people that could give a shit about Star Trek, and introduing the concept to an entire new generation of kids. The core fan audience is over with, it's newbies going to see this film, something Watchmen and Wolverine couldn't do. I saw more little kids at the last showing of Trek than the entire God damn Star WarsPrequel trilogy or Lord of the Rings film run. THAT's what it's all about. The kids are eating this shit up. Star Treks future is GUARANTEED and 4 or 5 bitches need not be onboard.
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OK, so how do you do paragraphs on this site?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKkvbBoas9Y&feature=related
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To make paragraphs, insert but without the spaces in between.
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I just saw the movie yesterday, and in an effort to not troll I'll just say that I think the movie was well made. They did a great job of delivering the movie that they set out to make. I have real problems with their creative decisions--about everything from the shaky-cam to the plot--but at least it is a well crafted movie. Here's why Nero waited 25 years, incidentally: Old Spock's ship is the one that had the "red matter" on it. Without that stuff Nero wouldn't have been able to do anything substantive to Vulcan and Earth.
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That's a masterpiece. So beautiful to behold.
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“I can’t defend why this movie is any good, but you 3 posters who argue with me are assholes because I like JJ-Trek and I am right and you are wrong. And JJ Trek RULZ! fuck you all, you all suk, the end.”
First off Josh. There are a HELL of a lot more than 3 posters who have said JJ-Trek sucked on these major threads. The number is about the same as the trek lovers, but be my guest and keep trying not to let annoying facts get in your way.
Secondly, you seem to have strong opinions about this (though based on what other than “fun” I have no idea) and your strong opinions have absolutely no more inherent value than the opposite strong opinions…less actually because we can actually explain our positions.
Finally if you really think that based on your less than objective ability to mind reading the kids you saw at one viewing of this movie equates to how the kids of the world feel about JJ-Trek you are deluded. The Prequels may have sucked, but I’d bet your paycheck more kids liked that silly crap than this. The prequels had tons of cutsie crap they ate up. JJ-Trek had very little for kids ither than have a script that was written at the 4th grade reading level.
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And watching Transformers in the presence of Megan Fox? lol
Megan: What did you think of the movie?
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May 17, 2009 12:32:29 PM CDT
WE SHOULD ALL FEEL FREE TO IMPART OUR HONEST OPINIONS
by bringingsexyback
But don't be surprised if you receive some phaser fire for it. Pew!!! Pew!! Beeow!!!
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sounds demented. I love how he spits out these paragraph-long swear-filled tirades against people who don't bend over and submit themselves to the Cult of Abrams, (and it really is a chilling example of group-think), and then concludes his posts with things like, "Optimism and positivism is back baby!" Really? And screaming insults at people whose opinion of this sad, sorry little movie differs from yours is optimistic and positive, how, exactly?
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with those who've said that the ultimate screening of this film would be the version that's actually a decent movie!
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There's nothing optimistic or positive about this movie at all. Abrams would just say anything, including stealing Obama's thunder, to get people to fork over their money!
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The problem with the detractors is their inability to enjoy anything. They spout their opinions with such vigor and rage and try to pass their bitchings and moanings off as truth. That's why these talkbacks are such a fucking joke. A bunch of overly opinionated assholes with ego's spouting off their opinions as if they were experts, yet somehow don't have a thing to show for it other than their rantings and ravings on a message board. I think the Star Trek movie is good because it's well casted, exciting, and well made. Does it have flaws? Yeah. Does it rely on coincidence a LOT? Yeah. Does that make it a bad movie? Seriously. Lighten up and maybe you'll actually enjoy something for a change. The same goes to the people who enjoyed the movie. Love the movie, if you want, but don't jam it down the throats of the assholes complaining about it and then complain when they do the same.
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Originally p[osted by 900LBGorilla : " There are a HELL of a lot more than 3 posters who have said JJ-Trek sucked on these major threads. "
Not much more!
Then of course when logic fails them they devolve into this kind of thing : " Finally if you really think that based on your less than objective ability to mind reading the kids you saw at one viewing of this movie equates to how the kids of the world feel about JJ-Trek you are deluded. The Prequels may have sucked, but I’d bet your paycheck more kids liked that silly crap than this. The prequels had tons of cutsie crap they ate up. JJ-Trek had very little for kids ither than have a script that was written at the 4th grade reading level. "
The movie was good. The movie was a hit. This movie had may not have been the old formula exactly but it had much more of what ST has been missing for awhile now ( Mostly the Berman years ). FUN. It also captured the essence of what ST was in the beginning. There will be a sequel. Probably many. The haters will still hate ( if the feud between the fans of the old BSG and new are any indication ). The rest of the world will move on to enjoy more Star Trek.
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wtf?
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you can start watching this movie at any point and not miss anything, or have any questions about the plot. its made like a tv series. a bad one. high rank hollywood people are laughing at you as they enjoy a $80 per person lunch.
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RealDeal. The Phantom Menace and Titanic were HUGE hits. That means nothing.
Also to Real Deal and JediWuddayaknow any of you guys seem hung up on the lack of detractors ability to “have fun” or think we are stuck on “the old formulas”. It’s been said before buy I’ll say it again – all the major detractors who are still commenting have said NUMEROUS times that we don’t care about the old formulas as much as simply giving us a good movie.
Same goes for fun- which brings me back to another much maligned movie on the TBs- Transformers- that was dumb fun- indeed it was much more fun than JJ-Trek with bigger booms and more action- it also may have been a blown up kiddie flick, but it didn’t have blaring plot holes that left viewers thinking major plot points in the movie were put there for no reason other than incompetence. So I hope you guys didn’t blast Transformers…. Another "fun" movie- and one that has a far better plot than JJ-Trek. And if you have read AsmiveLives prior comments you’ll see he is also able to have fun with simple movies- just not ones with plot holes this glaring.
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That would be great. Someone hacks the NASA computer.
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I expect T2INO to be more of the same.
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1) "Sabotage." OK, I understand there is some subtext there now, but it still feels thin, and at the time I had no idea, so it pulled me right out of the movie (ditto for the Nokia product placement). Do I know that people won't still be listening to the Beastie Boys or using Nokia in the 23rd century? Sure don't. But it felt like an anachronism, whether or not it truly was. 2) The way Kirk just ran across Spock on Delta Vega or wherever that was - pure, jarring contrivance and weak writing. Why not have Spock already at the Federation outpost? 3) Making Kirk captain of the Enterprise at the end of the movie. He's too young. I understand he's a hero, and clearly captain material, but a bureaucracy, even an enlightened, 23rd century one, would be far more likely to let him cut his command teeth on something smaller, like some science ship or freighter or something, before just putting him in the big chair in the Federation's flagship. It's like giving a kid with his first driver's license still warm from the laminating machine the keys to a Ferrari, for chrissakes. But anyway - none of these problems were as big for me as last summer's blockbuster trying to shoehorn a new villain and plot into the last hour, and yet it seems people are here couldn't get enough of licking The Dark Knight's balls.
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If you can do the job, you get the job. Efficiency at its purest, no politics, no bullshit.
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This is not your father's James T. Kirk. This is one who did not grow up with the love, guidance and wisdom of George Kirk. This is the Kirk who grew up with a step-father who cares more about his toys than his kids.
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That's why he sabotaged his car.
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Okay who wants some of this?!!?!?
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Old Man Spock - Nimoy is just too fucking old. He was like a talking corpse and I was just waiting for his false teeth to fall out onto Kirk's shoes.
The crazy bug monster on the ice planet. Just no need for it whatsoever. Take a moment to slow things down and have Kirk actually do something to prove he is intelligent and resourceful rather than just fall over and be found by Dr Exposition who conveniently is in the right place at the right time to save him and tell him exactly what is going on and what needs to be done.
Screen flares. I read this was because JJ thought the future was so bright it couldn't be contained or some shit. It took me out of the moment and kept reminding me I was watching something on a set that had been recorded into a camera. I much preferred the early stuff with Kirk's dad - that Star Trek world looked very real, lived in and entirey in keeping with the older films. I would have liked them to have kept this look but instead they went for the Apple Store Enterprise. Better than the fakeness of the SW prequels of course, but just take a hint from the original Star Wars - people loved that because it was dirty and grimy and felt real even though it wasn't.
Simon Pegg in the tube. Again just another pointless bit of gubbins to keep the tempo ridiculously high. Its OK to have moments where people aren't running around at full tilt JJ. Just have Pegg materialise in a tank and hey presto you've got a nice little gag without some boring "rescue him from a big tank of something" nonsense. We know he's not going to die because we've seen the trailer where he stands on the bridge. That hasn't happened yet ergo stop all the fucking around.
Why the fuck was Winona Ryder in old age makeup chosen to be Spock's mum? What was wrong with an older actress? Is this to set up "flashback" scenes in future films? I can think of no other reason.
All in all I thought the film was good and shows promise for future films but lessons need to be learnt. Someone compared this film to X1 - lets hope the next film is X2 levels of awesome. I thought X1 was pretty boring but it set everything up to really go crazy in the sequel. I think theres enough talent on show in the this film to think theres a good chance this will happen in the sequel. BUT lets be clear - this Star Trek is no better than a good 7/10 film. They should, and hopefully CAN, do better next time. -
images permanently stuck in my brain. [involving naked wheelchair-bound Harry writhing vigorously on top of an ecstatically screaming Megan Fox in front of a giant television playing Transformers]
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-it's the damage it's done to my psyche.
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Star Trek's second weekend came close to tying Angels and Demons opening weekend.
Not to mention, Trek is close to overcoming Wolverine in total box office and the Xmen flick opened a full week ahead of it.
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Okay, thanks. It still doesn't make much sense to me but at least I have an explanation.
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They say that you can't turn a bad script into a good movie but JJ somehow proved that saying wrong. The script may have been terrible but JJ somehow managed to get some really good performances out of his cast and keep the whole thing together even though most of it was illogical crap. I enjoyed it. As long as I don't think about the actual storyline.
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wouldn't it be Abrams who should be insulted? He's not the one who directed Crystal Skull. Well they both have done some shitty movies, but Star Trek is a good one despite the plot holes and cheap tricks.
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Well your hopes of this movie tanking looks to be going down hill. 43 mil for the its second weekend. Now is this really huge? No, will other movies perform better this summer? more then likly yes. The relaunch of Trek was successful. I'm sure TF2 and maybe T-Salvation will make more but it's not a contest to me. I'm just happy that we'll get some more Trek under Abrams good film making(i know that burns u up). At anyrate man just give it a rest with the hatefest. You didn't like and i respect your opinion but getting nasty and insulting people cause they liked and didn't see the mess of a movie that you saw means we all just have different tastes. What's good to you are awful to some others. Just accept it, Abrams Trek is here to stay.
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May 17, 2009 2:46:31 PM CDT
AsimovLives are u serious? Indy4 & Trek arent in the .....
by the founder
same bag. I never thought INDY4 was good. I said it was so so from the begininng. No one is gonna go in a few months "oh Trek wasn't as good as i thought, i was caught up in the hype" Well dude trek wasn't all that hyped up like you say. There was no controversy, no major stars, no gags to pull in people. People just saw the advirtisments, read the reviews and word of mouth is what helped a near dead franchise.
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Why don't you list a genre film that you liked and I'll critique it for you? All you do is blather about plot holes and " Dumb ass " geez! Well most people don't agree that the plot holes were that bad. Also every ST film has had plot holes. The same goes for the series! It's not Shakespeare. But is it thought provoking fun! This movie was back to back fun. Something ST has been lacking for awhile now ( since Khan ). I'm very sorry you can't appreciate this movie for what it is.
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Pew! Ping!
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To me why this film is so great. I don't get it. Other than some great effects and a very cool portrayal of young Spock, the rest was mediocre and predictable to me. I never really laughed and I was never surpised or amazed. It just seemed very cornball and standard issue. I guess you have to be a big Trek fan.
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Saying he would murder an innocent child or a helpless woman if that would allow him to become an astronaut. Truly disturbing stuff.
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Enough, please.
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May 17, 2009 3:45:09 PM CDT
Listening to the Beastie Boys or using Nokia in the 23rd century
by fluffyunbound
There are a lot of valid criticism of plot "leaps" in this film, but I actually think this one is kind of weak. We're told that the car is an antique. That would go for its sound system as well. And it's very likely that period music would be on that sound system, either as part of the "antique experience" [think of those assholes at the classic car show who show up wearing 20's clothes in their 20's car] or because no modern music is recorded in a compatible medium [I can't play the Killers on an Edison gramophone even if I want to].
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That's fucking INSANE.
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I hate to see bald-on-bald violence.
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Cease all aggressions and surrender your vessel. You will be treated humanely according to the Funcan Conventions. This is your final warning.
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Lost and Star Trek.
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When dont you normally bitch about stuff?
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fucking spammers
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in theaters.Needed more scotty less chekov.Better writing.No turd ewok.No goofy looking big hands.I really had a good time in a very crowded theater.Which I hate seeing movies with lots of people in the theater and this was no exception thanks to somebody near me who doused themselves with oldspice and a broken seat.
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Hm. I don't think Abrams is anywhere near as talented as Spielberg. However, Abrams is smart, and I think he has the hunger that Spielberg's lost.
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"The number is about the same as the trek lovers, but be my guest and keep trying not to let annoying facts get in your way. "
No where near. Far more talkbackers liked it than hated it. Have you counted up how MANY of the posts in this talkback are from you, Asimov, and a couple other specific posters? The same highly-prolific posters that post in every Star Trek thread since the movie opened?
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Tom Hanks beat them fellas. we failed.
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...Haven't seen Trek yet, but if you're right and it is bad and hype is keeping people from admitting it, only to turn on the film later, maybe it'll take a South Park episode to really stick the knife in and turn opinion. That's pretty much what happened with Indy 4. South Park won't be back with new eps until October, so you might have a little wait there, chief.
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Post this nonsense
"Beyonce's film Obsessed is a much better film then all three of these movies...put together"
Seriously? BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!
Despite the flaws in Angels and Demons and despite the stool droppings that Wolverine laid all over American multiplexes, both came nowhere near the abject sludge and stench that is "Obsessed"
Fuck, what my cat hacks up every 6-7 days after intense grooming sessions has far superior acting chops than Beyonce. She's truly in Pia Zadora territory.
Then you top off the idiocy by trying to spout that it's even superior to Trek, which pretty much just lays atomic urine all over your statement/opinion.
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...by Tom Hanks and his mullet. That must burn, JJ. Still going to catch it this week, we;ll see.
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ST movies traditionally have pretty middling BO.
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Why was Transformers horrible instead of just “fun”?… Phew Phew (or rather boom boom)
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May 17, 2009 6:44:27 PM CDT
AICN talkback is the only place on the Planet that hates Trek
by tallboy66
Shows just about as much credibility the talkbackers have, eh?
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A movie's quality is determined by the box office? Yeah. That makes sense.
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I have already said that though not a very good movie Transformers was BETTER than Start Trek. Did you somehow miss that.
Indeed I went OUT IF MY WAY to give you a huge target with a blown up kiddie flik.
I picked the biggest “dumb fun” movie I haven’t hated that I could think of for you guys. A mindless action flik incarnate- but one that was nevertheless a stronger movie than JJ-Trek .
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By the way I do appreciate Star Trek for what it is- it's a bad movie. Dumb fun I can enjoy. Nonsensical contrivances that literally drive the story- not so much.
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We finally disagree on something. I liked the sound system sarcasm though.
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And that's not saying much.
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Maybe you should count again. I just scanned the start of this TB and 5 out of 6 of the comments- mostly from 1 time posters –basically said the story/script sucked. It got more even later, but same has held true for every TB I’ve read about this despite the BS I keep hearing that’s its just 2 or 3 people who post a lot that dislike this movie,.
Incidentally there like 3 or 4 people who post constantly who DO like it too- not sure how that little inverse nugget escaped your attention.
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set phasers to kick ass filmdom!! pew!!pew!!!
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Transformers suffered from a total lack of talent. Fox, his parents, Fox, Turturro, all caraicatures. Nothing remotely 'real' or substantive about them. It was just ... not good. That's just my opinion, of course.
But just one scene in Star Trek surpasses the whole of Transformers - Pike talking to Kirk in the bar. That alone made it a good movie. But add a host of other fine scenes - the Kelvin attack, Spock talking to his mother, Spock watching his mother perish, Sarek telling Spock he loved his mother, Spock Prime showing Kirk how he was captured and made to watch the destruction of Vulcan, Kirk rising to the occasion and bonding with Spock, Kirk being passed the torch by Pike who said, "I am relieved." ... all these are great moments accompanied by a lot of fun, action and humor with a set of characters we're given to love anew.
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quit reminding me of the 2 hours i will never get back
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If only he could direct... dude makes "bottom line" films for you, the lowest common denominator.
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sorry... I didn't read your comment bellow. You are not the lowest common denominator. Harry is.
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Not liking a film is one thing, that's more than fine, one must be a discerning film geek after all, but what's laughable to me, is I bet you people that green chicks left titty, the same 4 people going on and on about Star Trek sucking,in contrast LIKE Star Wars. If ever there was a blatant example of hypocrisy there you are. You see children, I was first generation Star Wars, I was there. You turds have BECOME the old, senile, cynical hack critics of yesteryear. Yeah, a couple people didn't like A New Hope when it was released, but audiences loved the dumbed down fun the film represented as a stark contrast to 70's anti- heroism.
Shitty dialogue? Ridiculous plot? Two-dimensional characters? Are we talking about Star Trek or A New Hope? Both. You see populism isn't a BAD thing kids. Any criticism of any merit leveled against Star Trek can be leveled against A New Hope, a film which clearly the new film was modeled after, AND which achieved certain things better than A New Hope. For one, the characters were alot more fun in Star Trek.
You can almost do a shot by shot comparison with the narrative in Star Trek and A New Hope such is their similarity. Sure, Orci ripped Star Wars. But no more than Star Wars ripped Star Trek. Star Trek paved the way for Star Wars creatively, and Star Wars paved the way for Star Trek motion pictures. Don't be a hypocrite. If you like one, if you are sincere with yourself you must invariably like the other given their thematic similarities right down to narrative structure.
If you don't like Star Wars or Star Trek, you have failed to launch and are entirely too stuffy of a human being to continue consuming the rest of our oxygen. If anyone on here has the audacity to consider Berman era Trek "high-minded intellectual science-fiction", with it's bland turgid techno-babble and harshly devoid of spirit characters, then naturally you are a bitter fuck wounded shit Trek is over with. Hell no the film isn't perfect, I haven't sene one person claimj it is, or for that matter I challenge anyone to NAME a perfect film. However, the point is, the film isn't remotely the way people such as Asimov describe. He keeps talking league of extraordinary gentlemen bad and that's about as far from the truth as he is from chicks. Star Trek suceeded and exceeded in every goal it was intended to, and that's the victory for the film, re-launching in a fun and relevant way a very old and tired concept. Maybe Asimov just wanted a Captain Janeway movie discussing quantum phase inhibitors and re-routing auxillary power couplings. Roddenberry and Nimoy, and Myer figured out YEARS ago, keep Trek movies away from Trek fans. Star Trek works best when it isn't being Star Trek.
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...just like M. Night Shyamalan wasn't the new Spielberg back in 2000.
Look, I liked STAR TREK and I'm a big LOST fan, but let's cool it with the hyperbole. Steven Spielberg is a once in a generation filmmaker, like Hitchcock. So let's not compare every other, talented or not, director with a new hit movie 'the next Spielberg'. -
Talk about broad generalizations to support a narrow view point.
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"Hello Christopher. I'm Nero". Twas completely professional.
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May 17, 2009 9:37:59 PM CDT
I wonder if they watch this Star Trek reboot on the space statio
by toilet_terror
jandrewedits.com
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It's a take-off on Mulholland Drive. Thus, the "DR" in the filename.
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I should hope so... now yield to the POWER OF BALE! In four days, all this nonsense will be buried under the Terminator Salvation avalanche. There is no escaping!
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I could care less if it didn't make sense to include it — I fucking loved it! That's something that would totally be out of place in a Star Wars film but here, it feels right. A possible explanation: maybe Kirk's stepdad only had songs programed into the cars system that were of the era that the car was built? Anyway, my favorite BB album is Paul's Boutique.
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Best. Pirated. Movie. Source. EVER.
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Thanks. That would explain the weirdness.
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Once in a while someone actullay posts something worth noting and i 2nd everything you said. I honestly never understood how you could like Trek but hate SW or vice versa. I like both. Each properties had their share mediocrity.
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You know it to be true.
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no probably not me, but Jacknancerenge and chromedome and that othe guy
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i mean seriously you've got an unobstructed view of the planet earth without borders or boundaries, the infinte cosmos beyond. and you're gonna watch a movie. fuck next thing you know a shuttle launch'll get aborted cause the pilot was txting during launch.
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It felt like you are at Benihana and the guy making your food in front of you does it flawlessly. It's not the greatest meal you've ever had, and it's more expensive than it should be, but it was entertaining and well done.
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Star Trek rocked. Perfect? No. Plot holes/coincidences? Sure. Do I care? Not in the slightest. It was balls-to-the-wall fun and I enjoyed every damn second of it. J.J. Abrams continues to churn out gold. Lost, Cloverfield, Star Trek (I haven't ever watched Alias but I'm sure I'd probably like it too) ... they're all great. I think the J.J. Abrams haters just need something to hate. They can't stand it when someone they didn't root for in the first place becomes popular, so they do their damndest to tear the person down. Well, sorry fellas, but J.J. did a good job with Trek and the box office and reviews (not just from critics) shows it. Nobody cares if a majority of AICN TB'ers are screaming that it sucked. There will be a sequel. It will be popular. It will make money. And that in turn will lead to more sequels. Why do you think they made the alternate universe in this first one anyway? So they could do whatever they wanted in the sequels. It was a creative and useful plot device. So deal with it. No amount of ranting or raving on here about the movie is going to change the mind of anyone who saw the movie and liked it. They will still like it. They will still go see a sequel as long as it retains the look and feel that this first one did. That's life. If it really pains you so badly to see people praise a movie you dislike so immensely, then kill yourself. I mean, what other choice do you have, right? It's not like you could just, oh, make your opinion known and then ... move on or something.
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seen them on Pirate Bay couple times... I remember a few years back (well, maybe only two years?) they shouted out BIG UPS to an uploader for a superfast seed of an episode of Stargate
I guess they like their SciFi huh? who'dathunkit?
btw THE NEW START TREK MOVIE WAS AWESOME! this is the ONLY place I've heard ANYONE say anything negative about it - you haters need to read that Onion article about it... -
Jar Jar Abrams?
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FIRST PROFESSIONAL TERMINATOR SALVATION REVIEW UP AT VARIETY - V.POSITIVE...
Darker, grimmer and more stylistically single-minded than its two relatively giddy predecessors, "Terminator Salvation" boasts the kind of singular vision that distinguished the James Cameron original, the full-throttle kinetics of "Speed" and an old-fashioned regard for human (and humanoid) heroics. Only pic's relentlessly doomsday tone -- accessorized by helmer McG's grimy, gun-metal palette -- might keep auds from flocking like lemmings to the apocalypse. The fourth in the celebrated sci-fi series, "Salvation" opens and closes with humanity at war with the machines. In other words, this thing isn't going to end soon. Nor should it, if it keeps on like this.
McG, whose segue from music vids to movies resulted in two "Charlie's Angels" extravaganzas and the woeful "We Are Marshall," exhibits an unexpected flair for the dreadful, abrupt and awesome. What we get here -- which was perhaps missing on the relatively sunny mental landscapes of "Terminator 2: Judgment Day" and "Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines" -- is a sense of real horror: When humans are snatched up like Cheez-Doodles by skyscraper-sized Go-bots, there's no slo-mo relief or stalling. Stuff happens as it might were the world actually overtaken by demonic appliances.
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Star Trek was perfect!
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May 18, 2009 7:43:40 AM CDT
Star Trek for idiots written by two people who obviously
by the_man_behind_the_curtain
learned their trade from a book called 'Scriptwriting For Idiots'.Hello JJ's Star Trek.
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Well it's just your opinion and a very few others.
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...have not much prior knowledge on the franchise, it was pretty fucking good. Really awesome. I don't remember any scene that was goosebump inducing but it was still pretty cool. "Are you outta you Vulcan mind!?" LOL
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anyway, regarding the thin plot bitching....have you seen star trek in any variety before? because this is what its all about..with a few exceptions from published authors writibg for TOS..thin plot is standard procedure...which actually is the case for most sci fi/ fantasy in general..get real...shut the fuck up...and get out of your parents basement for gods sake...
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It's always nice to know that I share any choice with people in outer space.
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hi guys, i'm about to give my thoughts on J J Abrams Star Trek with the hopeful intention of not being dragged into world war 3. having skimmed through some of the above posts i sense much conflict and anger regarding differences of opinion, so just for the record, i come in peace and i just wanna review the fuckin movie ok. now .... i went into star trek with the kind of excitement i felt going into indy 4, star wars prequels etc, i grew up watching the kirk movies and altho they vary in quality i still have a soft spot for all of them, yes even the one with god in it. so i was looking forward to this one, and all the positive buzz surrounding it only added to my excitment. so star trek 2009 then, it was good, it wasnt very good, it wasnt bad, it was merely good, could have been alot worse but also could have been alot better, there is room for improvment, considerable improvement, and like so many other trilogies/franchises, hopefully lessons can be learned here and sequels will benefit. things i liked then ... the opening, it was a good intro and it had it all, suspense, action, emotion and the birth of kirk. the actors in their roles .... i thought almost everyone of the cast were very good, particularly the actors playing kirk, spock, maccoy and uhura. i thought they made the roles their own and seldom did i think about the other incarcerations while watching them. the kirk/spock dynamic .... i thought their scenes together were great particulary the mutiny scene before kirk is discarded to the snow planet, and the scene upon his return where he pushes spocks buttons too far. the tone .... What i didnt like .... the music ... i was hoping for a grand theme to match what we've heard before but i was dissapointed with what was on offer here. i cant recall the theme now but i do recall not having the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end. it wasnt epic and it wasnt memorable. this happens in alot of blockbusters today. it seems to me that a good pounding score is harder to come by these days. Scotty ... i like simon pegg, in his comedies, but i didnt like simon pegg in star trek and his character was the one i disliked the most, partly because his character came across as a buffoon with a teddy bear sidekick. the scene where he transports himself into the water tube by mistake was the last straw for me and it was this moment that made me miss james doohan, the original scotty. the villian .... we all know eric bana is a reliable actor, chopper being the greatest example, but was his nero a villian to rival khan, gruber, the joker, erm no, he wasnt, he was on a par with malcom macdowell in star trek generations or the picard clone villian in star trek nemesis. the plot holes... so nero and spock weave into a giant space cloud that takes them both back in time to when kirk is born. 20 or so years pass by and this is when nero decides to make his presence known by destroying planets. why did he wait this long to make his mark. why didnt he attempt to go after young spock, surely an easier target since young spock wouildnt know who the hell he is. why exactly did nero banish old spock to the snow planet a few miles away from a starfleet post instead of just killing him when he was aboard his ship. why didnt spock make his way to the starfleet post where scotty is working before young kirk bumps into him. what are the odds of young kirk bumping into old spock in the first place considering alot of coincedences need to take place before they meet, such as kirk being abanded, kirk being abanded to the same planet old spock is on, kirk landing a mile or so from old spock, kirk being chased into old spocks cave by a snow beastie etc etc, i mean, i'm willing to allow the odd coincedence but this was too much for me to swallow.
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get your own fucking name imposter.
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Did anyone else think she was hot,or what? I wonder what she looks like fully naked...Could you imagine a porno with a green chick?
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Please make your point in shorter sentences. thank you love you goodbye
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I like that, it was funny.
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but Harry, don't you think your wife probably feels at least a little bad when you talk about having sex with other women?
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It had less of a percentage drop than Iron Man... that means people like it and are going back and seeing it again. It's already broken even domestically and still has a lot more money to make. Now, I know common sense isn't so common on a talkback... but common sense would dictate that Star Trek is a success at the box office.
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May 18, 2009 1:22:12 PM CDT
I need a shortlist of the people you WOULDN"T kill.
by the reluctant austinite
I need this before I come back to visit Austin. Thanks.
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Jabayoda just made an interesting point, one which also crossed my mind, doesnt harrys wife get at least a little annoyed that he used megan fox as an example of how awesome it would be to sleep with her, and why doesnt harry use his wife as an example instead, that would surely be the more romantic thing to do harry, ok, i've never seen your wife but thats beside the point, we are talking abt who you want to bang, not me, and since you have committed the act of eternal binding with a woman you're supposed to love unconditionally, don't you think its a little off key to be discussing you rsexual desires on a public website, i mean not only is it something i dont want to read but it also makes me lose faith in marriage, your comment says to me .... dont get married guys because you end up publicly announcing your bang fantasy for all and sundry to see including your wide who no longer sexually satisfys you ... or maybe you were just speaking for most other men, in which case, megan fox is a great choice, amen.
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the haters are berman and braga. Hey guys, you had your chance. no one wanted their trek looking like the shit you were churning out. thank fuck JJ turned up to finally air out the 7 year stench of nemesis. fucking bullshit film!
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but it's true... he probably wasnt right for scotty. look at the old scotty and think of puddy from seinfeld. that would have been inspired
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May 18, 2009 2:34:32 PM CDT
Impossible for Harry to post a story w/out a Meagan Fox Referenc
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May 18, 2009 3:34:52 PM CDT
next in the series will be KIRK/ KNAN 1st meeting
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Who will play Khan?
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Really - marriage is meant to be a lifelong commitment "for better or for worse." I assume you made marriage VOWS along those lines - or is your word any good?
Yes, I know - it's only fantasy, after all, so what harm does it do? (begin Yoda voice) Thoughts lead to attitudes. Attitudes lead to words and actions. Pretty soon, your marriage is trashed. (end Yoda voice)
The "I can look but I can't touch" attitude has contributed to the fact that nearly half of all marriages today will end in divorce. If you're going to make a commitment, then have the cojones follow through with it. Otherwise, you shouldn't have made it in the first place. Your integrity is one of the very few things that you can truly own, and that nobody can steal from you. Once you've given it away, it's hard to get back.
Public joke, public response.
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you know, like that episode of Friends? where they make a list of 5 or 6 celebrities that they're allowed to sleep with should the stars align and they get the chance.
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Comeon, I'm happily married and my wife knows when I make a joke. Harry was making a joke, just being light, you guys will find anything to talk shit on him. Seriously, how many of you got beat up on the playground when you were a kid? I know I did and I'm guessing most of you did too, stop acting like immature playground bullies! Go the fuck away and complain to your friends but stop polluting this website with your hate filled garbage.
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If you really think you can't look while you're married, you're deluded, just no touching. Are you guys even married??
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Do you really want to be distracted from it by watching ANY movies? Seriously?
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Nothing new here.
Except that Variety review of TermieSalv. WHY NO FUCKING MENTION OF THE LIGHTING ON BALE BSB ???? FUCKING VARIETY AMATEURS. They are all Dah, Dah, Dah, Dah! -
Come back in a few years and let us know how your marriage is holding up. If it's going well, bully for you but the fact is that these days almost 60 percent of marriages end in divorce. Attitudes such as "look but don't touch" are among the contributing factors. It is entirely possible to only have eyes for one person and that doesn't make you less of a man.
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Yeah, having sex with Megan Fox while watching Transformers would be great. Minus the watching Transformers part.
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Yeah, having sex with Megan Fox while watching Transformers would be great. Minus the watching Transformers part.
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Yeah, having sex with Megan Fox while watching Transformers would be great. Minus the watching Transformers part.
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Yeah, having sex with Megan Fox while watching Transformers would be great. Minus the watching Transformers part.
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Tanks for the reply. My take is:
Sure Transformers was an action comedy. But I’d contend that the parents and Labuef were FAR more effective (and less goofy) comedy than what we saw in the supposedly more mature Star Trek. Fat hands Kirk, The Scotty water slide, the apple during the Maru, the snarky dialogue during action scenes – all FAR worse in Star Trek.
Also the action and military action – though Transformers also had humor (“left cheek, left cheek!”) That action was FAR more realistic in the “kiddie flik” Transformers. The air attack on the scorpion –transformers actually followed pretty closely how the military would really attack it. Whereas Trek with the nonsensical assault on the drill – when the ship could have taken it out, the Independence day assault on the innards of the Romulan Ship., the sword fight (why would sulu even bother bringing a sword to a gunfight etc. ?). All more contrived in he critically acclaimed Star Trek.
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Problem is a few scenes don’t make a great move- especially when the plot is so incredibly weak and contrived. I mean entire plot lines of this fiolm basically should be erased as they make no sense including the villains motivation and his lack of attempt to actually save his planet. The entire Hoth scene followed by the waterslide makes no sense. The weak as hell plot contrivances of Spoke prime showing up out of the blue, and being able to erase that entire plot line with the problem riddled “we can teleport onto a warping ship” deus ex machina. The attack on the drill- all this was so non-sensical that it doesn’t matter if there are a few good scenes that doesn’t save a crap story.
I may also agree with you on the great scene that was the Kelvin (minus the downright amateurishly sudden silent battle when mom and dad Kirk spoke), But fat hands Kirk and the downright silly transfer of a relieved Pike to a 3 year cadet as flagship Captain are far more damaging than the other scenes are good (I really only found the Kelvin scene to be great the rest were OK).
Which is why TINO is a far stronger movie than STINO. Despite the mind boggling acclaim this thing is getting. And incidentally I don’t even care if its TINO, STINO of GINO. Any INO is acceptable to me as long as its well written and compelling. And STINO apart from a few good scenes was so bewilderingly awful as a story that there was no saving it.
On a somewhat potitive I may mock STINO incessantly, but by the time the Kelvin scene was over I was legitimately moved. I agree that was a great scene- a trulygreat start to the movie…unfortunately that admittedly powerful scene was last the last good thing in the movie as it degraded into the beastie boys. Fat hands, and constant scenes that looked like Beverly hills 9021-Trek! And I’ll take TINO over that any day.
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A mini home theater system in the ISS wouldn't hurt. After all, the space station is the most advanced laboratory ever created so far, a few notches below the Hadron Collider.
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No Josh you know what the REALLY funny thing is – while being cocky you are so dim- witted that you actually BELIEVE A new Hope has plot holes as glaring as JJ-Trek. You blather on about 2 dimensional characters and simple action as if that was ACTUALLY THE COMPLAINT of any of the major critics of this movie. Maybe you haven’t paid attention- or maybe you are just reading at the 4th grade level - but our complaints don’t remotely resemble your silly list of base similarities between A New hope and JJ-Trek. The only thing you got right was that Star Trek WAS a lot like Star Wars- but where you get it wrong-is that it was far more Prequel than OT. We also never said Berman Trek was “high minded or intellectual” Well compared to JJ-Trek it certainly was, but that ain’t saying much. Nah you are so hung up on the fallacious and childish argument that ”if its basically fun its all the same” that I think you must actually be having a problem getting enough of that oxygen that you would like to deny others. By your standards I guess if you like Star Wars, you have to like the Power Rangers because I can extrapolate your ridiculous argument o include that trash- lets give it a try:
“Dumbed down fun the film represented as a stark contrast to 70's anti- heroism. Shitty dialogue? Ridiculous plot? Two-dimensional characters? Are we talking about Star Trek or A New Hope or the Power Rangers?”
Wow AMAZING- Power rangers fits right into your stupid attempt at an argument. Maybe next time you can save yourself from looking silly by actually reading what our problems with Trek are- cause “fun” was never part of this debate except in your mind. Then again- if you don’t get the rather easy to understand arguments against this film by now, you probably never will.
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Orci and Kurtzman did a damn good job on Star Trek. You have to understand what that cost me...I've hated every single thing these guys have written. Hated it with a passion...I regularly show up when they post on these talkbacks just to dog them and let them know how horrible I think they are. I dont know if they're getting better of if this was a fluke or if the pressure of writing Star Trek made them bring their A-game or what but...Star Trek was a well written,entertaining film. The DIALOGUE was good...these guys can NEVER write dialogue for shit,but it was good in Trek. I am a life-long quasi Trek fan....its always been around and I've watched it,but its never been a passion...but I really enjoyed the new movie. Theres no way in hell I will EVER sit through Transformers 2,but if these guys and Abrams want to make another Trek? I'll pay to see it.
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Who cares if it's in space...I don't.
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That's nice gorilla, but you see we aren't contrasting Star Trek and power rangers, we are contrasting Star Trek and Star Wars. Get your finger out of your ass and focus.
You plebes were simply predisposed to not like this film because it's Kirk and Spock and not the other billion Berman iterations of Star Trek, that's the bottom line.
It's funny, I can visualize the audience being engaged and laughing whilst you fat cunts sit there slobbering and fingering your soggy dank assholes.
As I unequivocally stated earlier, name your film and I'll destroy that mother fucker with the same insipid and banal logic you guys are applying to a resoundingly successful film. We get it. You are pissed Picard is over.
There's always got to be some nut crunch that goes against the grain in some desperate attempt to demonstrate their profound individualty. Everybody and their MOTHER likes this movie but sand vaginas because it didn't meet their hackneyed pre-concieved expectations on what constitutes art. It's hilariously pedantic. Bob Orci must be laughing his ass to the bank at several cheeto fingered trisby 21 cankle sacks that are pissed we didn't get some slimy by the book uninspired connect the dot fan wankery film. You guys are downing the movie as being shallow yet you are the one's that evidently need the characters to pause and explain and spell out every single nuance and detail, thereby grinding the narrative to a complete halt. All that you guys are advocating is another trip down mundane lane guaranteeing Trek another shit film that bombs and 7 year if not longer hiatus. Either that, or you simply don't like Star Trek in general. That's fine and dandy. Everyone else can enjoy this particular ride so here's to ya....chomping deez nuts. -
Your father was Captain of a starship, for 12 minutes. He saved 800 lives, including your mothers- and yours. I dare you to do better.
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that didn't like this film and what it represented, may Captain Kirks fat swollen hands crush your sack splendidly. I'm talking red matter testicle implosions here.
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Just got out of T4. I think it may be a popular movie - some of the early future war scenes are interesting and the robot designs are varied (nothing left out of the trailers, though). But it just fell apart for me at the end.
The friend I saw it with said it was one of the worst movies he's seen in a long time. I think that is a bit harsh, but considering the source material it is a significant letdown. Bale does his best, and Worthington is good, and Anton Yelchin channeled Michael Beihn to great effect. Sadly, they couldn't overcome the 3rd act.
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is gettin' busy on himself 24/7 here
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Since nothing about this film has screamed "come and see me" to me during the marketing, it looks very paint by numbers. I don't know, an Arnoldless, Cameronless Terminator is just bizzare even in concept. I'm thinking the big money maker for summer will be Transformers when all is said and done. Kids loves them some Transformers.
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...or maybe being in a wedding was making him replay the opening scene of Kill Bill in his head... I agree. It could've been something like that.
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And yes, I am serious. And yes, I am married - have been for a while now. There's a difference between noticing - even appreciating - and LOOKING. The first one can't be controlled, the second can. I'm not trying to trash the Headgeek. God knows I've got my own issues. I'm just sick of seeing men crap on their wives. Maybe it was a joke, but I'll bet Yoko isn't laughing.
And since when did criticism equal hatred? By that logic, the writers on this site are filled with hatred, since they regularly criticize actors and directors, even personally. If that were the case, why would you, who are such an opponent of hatred, be hanging around this site?
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It's the truth. I'll get around to scribbling my Terminator thoughts down soon enough, but here's my take on Star Trek (from opening day):
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Hear, hear!
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Nice try Josh – for a someone hopping on a short bus every day. Who the hell says “we” are contrasting Star Wars and Star Trek. “WE” are doing nothing of the sort. Let me educate you on your own argument- What happened is that “YOU” tried to make a point that light hearted movies with 2 dimensional characters are all the same and to support your moronic theory you tied in one of the best examples of this - “Star Wars”.
What I did was show that your theory was ill-conceived bull crap by using your own correlation (indeed the sole logical backup you had to support your argument) and illustrated that this silly argument works the exact same for Power Rangers as it does for Star Wars ie. I showed that your corollary is uses terms so broad in nature as to make it MEANINGLESS. All light hearted 2 dimensional films are CLEARLY not of the same- nor necessarily of any where NEAR similar quality. The fact that you don’t get what happened is fraking hilarious. DO me a fvor and stop while your this far behind- I don’t think I can draw a diagram for you on AICN.
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May 19, 2009 12:08:39 AM CDT
joshuavance1701 #2 the idiocy continues (but at least its funny)
by 900lbgorilla
Keep on “picturing” what others look like as if that supports your position (You seem really stuck on this which tells me its probably what you actually look like). But stick to that- as pathetic as it is-it’s your best argument so far and hopefully makes you feel a little better about yourself. I also love how you hilariously end your silly opinion by yet again sidestepping all the legitimate REASONS posted that this is a weak movie-(then again that’s predictable because – you simply lack the capacity to can’t address these) – and instead back into the stuck on stupid argument with your hilarious ranting that we MUST HAVE BEEN “preconceived” to hate this because it was not Berman” or Picard. (WHO COULD POSSIBLY NOT THINK THIS WAS GENIUS! LMFAO) Note to you preschool-I don’t prefer Picard to Kirk –don’t care about Berman, said both of these many times. Just wanted a good movie. But hey here’s to you. I’m glad your brain is capable of yawning through this movie without being able to see major holes in basic common sense - seriously dude- give power Rangers a shot- its right up your alley!
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What is it with you people and this "yawning" nonsense. You announce it like it makes you badass or something because you yawned at a movie. If you're yawning at a movie, try getting some sleep, grandpa. Personally, I hope the movie only gains popularity and people see it in droves simply because it'll inflate your pathetic little egos so you can pretend to be smarter and more enlightened than everyone who enjoys it. Rage on, fuckers!
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The marriage thing. Aren't you taking Harry's silly website posting a smidge too seriously? If his wife is getting pissed about Harry making a joke about sex with a woman voted sexiest woman in the world, then their relationship needs work anyway cuz, bitch needs a sense of humor. Plus, let's face it. Megan Fox. Harry Knowles. Not exactly in danger of happening.
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What could be more brilliant? Everyone join me in a campaign to convince J.J. & company to bring the shat back.
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* Lose Scotty's lame ewok-like alien friend
* Make Spock emotionless again
* Tell Uhura to take a cold shower and get to work.
* Hire Sean Connery as the Villian. Nero sucked -- Eric Bana had no screen presence.
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FUCK YOU!!! That little green guy was a riot. I wanna see him drinkin and fightin right next to Scotty for years to come.
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Are you kidding??? He's like the Jar Jar Binks of Star Trek.
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Are you kidding??? He's like the Jar Jar Binks of Star Trek.
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May 19, 2009 2:44:35 AM CDT
What's wrong with the Ewok like friend? Please People....
by the founder
find something bigger to bitch and moan about. For god's sake the Ewok like alien is a member of Starfleet and not some low intelligent like Teddy bear. No disrespect to the Ewoks, and I loved them as a kid. Scotty's sidekick was barly in the film and he did nothing to generate pointless complaints. His and Scotty provided a tiny bit of comic relief and nothing more. Jeez how that alien ruined the film for any one is beyond me.
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Even the Spock from the old shows had some emotion. He was not totally emotionless. Totally emotionless is the freaking robot/Gnort from The Day the Earth Stood Still, but just add a monotone voice like the sentinals from the Xmen cartoon. This is ridicuals. I can agree that Spock not be turned into an emotional spectrum, but the guy is half human and he should didplay some emotion. I don't mind the slight change in the current Spock with him showing more emotion. The younger Spock is dealing with the loss of him home world and his mother's unexpected death. Things are different, his expierence are and will be different from Spock Prime. Just get over it. So the phuck what if Spock and Uhura are an item. Good Lord just get over that too. I had no problem with it what so ever. If people want to hang on to the past shows, then just watch them and the old movies and enjoy them, but it was said from the start that Abrams and crew was rebooting Trek and diverging from the current timeline to have creative freedom. What the point of doing that if you're going to keep everything exactly the same. As the as the spirit and essence of trek is there as well as the characters, then no problem.
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Orci and Quinto nailed Spocks character traits. Understanding Vulcans has long been the bane of writers for Trek. Vulcans not only have emotions they are a highly passionate species that live by a code of supressing their emotions, they are not emotionless automatons as writers on Enterprise and Voyager depicted them. Possessing no emotions is hallmarks of a sociopath. Spock should always at any given moment appear just under the surface to be capable of quite the emotional display.
900 pounder Kirk fat hands why the continuous hyperbolic strawman arguments from you? Firstly, I could care less about convincing anyone to like or enjoy this movie, I enjoyed it that's all that matters. Secondly of course it's a flawed film, I haven't seen anyone say otherwise, the problem is those that didn't like it are suggesting those that did, are incapable of seeing such flaws. Therein lies the fallacious argument.
You honestly don't think anyone familiar with Trek realised the liberties the writers took and some of the indiscrepencies that appeared? I enjoyed the hell out of this flawed film, and you my friend are the sad minority on this one given the overwhelming, overwhelmingly positive critical and commercial response to this film.
See yours and Asimovs true argument here when you cut through all the bullshit isn't whether Star Trek is flawed film, it's whether it's possible to enjoy a flawed film and not analyze it to death but take it for it's own merits, which again leads me back to - you guessed it- Star Wars.
Your argument that all light-hearted romp films can be generalized is erroneous hyperbolic rhetoric. Star Trek is contrasted with A New Hope for the sole reason it is clearly modeled on the light-hearted not take itself seriously yet respect the material approach, right down to exacting Star-Warsian moments such as the opening assault on the Kelvin/assault on the Tantive IV, the call to adventure to lost farm boys Kirk and Luke by a mentor figure, cantinaesque' bar sequences, choice of destiny moments such as twin suns setting and Enterprise being constructed, coming out of hyperspace to see alderaan destroyed/coming out of warp fleet destroyed, death star trench run and intervention by the falcon/ Spock run on the Narada and intervention of Enterprise, shall I go on?
And yet back to MY original point yourself and Asimov haven't addressed as of yet because you are too busy atacking the film, any genre film you can name ESPECIALLY genre "classics" can easily be destroyed by applying scrutiny and deliberate maliciousness to point out a films glaring faults. You guys are simply killjoys, banal, self-righteous killjoys. You guys are the Spock lite of the new film, pompous, self-inflating and ingraciating desperately needing your future selves 25 years from now to come back and tell you to lighten the fuck up Francis!
It's a fun, spirited, campy, summer event movie. Star Trek isn't shakespeare and was never intended to be. Star Trek is, will be, and always has been about adventure and if you guys seriously didn't see the adventure of this film and can't get past Delta Vega being close to Vulcan or some dipshit stuff like that you seriously need to stop watching movies and go grow fungus in a lab. -
But you just end up with a shiny turd. Make it a shiny wobbly turd and that pretty much sums up this stinker of a movie.
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even anti-virus companies are jumping on board the bandwagon - check out www.sophos.com/Qapla for free klingon AV
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My girlfriend is cool, and she knows that I have celebrity crushes. I'm cool and I know that she has celebrity crushes, too (Mark Ruffalo, WTF???). But we would never make jokes about wanting to sleep with someone else in front of other people. That's just embarrassing and unnecessary. I'm sure Yoko is cool (she married Harry), and I bet she chuckles a bit when Harry makes jokes about wanting to sleep with Megan Fox. BUT, does he really need to do it a a HUGE audience of people -- probably in what, the tens or hundreds of thousands, or whatever this site attracts worldwide? Add to that the fact that Yoko writes here now. Yoko's readers and Harry's readers. Don't you think it's at least a little bit inconsiderate for Harry to talk about wanting to fuck another girl to the same people who read his wife's columns? Come on, man. I'm not saying Harry and Yoko are going to get divorced or whatever. I'm not even saying it's wrong for Harry to admire Megan Fox (though she looks disease-ridden to me). I'm just saying he should keep those comments to himself for the sake of his wife's feelings. Anyway, I'm done.
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May 19, 2009 1:17:53 PM CDT
AICN silent on the fact Angels & Demons knocked Trek out of numb
by glory_fades_immaxfischer
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May 19, 2009 1:23:55 PM CDT
or That Wolverine has still grossed more than Trek
by glory_fades_immaxfischer
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You and I don't understand the dynamics of their relationship and it is not ours to judge. Mostly, I feel that people on these boards are finding any excuse to talk shit about Harry. No matter what, people will find any reason to pick on the guy; his weight, his writing style, his marital status. Each and every one of you is taking advantage of his website, you obviously appreciate it, at least treat the guy who put it together with respect.
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hahahhaha, reminds me of people saying predator quotes to talkbackers.
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I don't get this shakespeare shit, since when is shakespeare the epitome of high art, it's just a form of art - Tragedy. And Macbeth sucked ass, his comedies were mediocre. Star Trek is Sci Fi, Sci Fi is far more out there and imaginative than Tragedy is. So I don't get this argument. if it's not Shakespeare it's shit. Star Trek is highly intelligent, it's not logical(ha) to compare sci fi to tragedy when one uses more brain than the other.
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everyone was either really good or great, Kirk and Bones standing out for me. Unlike Watchmen where it fucking sucked that Ozymandias and Silk Spectre were very miscast.
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the lord of the rings film runs aren't fair to compare, around the world they were MASSIVE with families and it's silly to compare little kids at Star Trek with little kids at Lord of the Rings since LOTR destroyed with the broadest audience since Star Wars.
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listen to the score again, it's brilliant. same as batman begins, people said they didn't remember it(they were distracted by awesomeness of movie) then the second time they were yelling out 'masterpiece' and it's true. Music doesn't always hit straight away.
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that's for sure.
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I disagree. I love Harry, I love his web site, and I never say a bad word about him. I appreciate what he does very much. I don't care if he's overweight or if he talks about chocolate pussy juice. If anything that makes him more lovable even. But I just think he should think of his wife's feelings before talking about fucking other women to a massive audience. Anyway, let's just agree to disagree.
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May 19, 2009 5:50:04 PM CDT
If TREKKIES had their way, STAR TREK would look like this...
by ccchhhrrriiisssm
http://tinyurl.com/badtrek OUCH! BTW, STAR TREK passed the $150M mark yesterday. It is now estimated to easily hit the $225M mark in the US...and possibly more.
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Deal, let's be internet friends.
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http://tinyurl.com/badtrek
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ccchhhrrriiisssm - if you live in Austin, and I see you on the street, I will kill you for posting that.
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LOL Sorry...I couldn't resist. The Trekkies are sooooooooo disgruntled over this movie. I just wanted to show people what they REALLY want. BTW...I will be in Austin later this summer.
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If you check Google Ad Planner the stats show that 90% of the guys who visit here are aged between 30 and 45.
83% are without children, which infers a low percentage of men in relationships.
There are only 32K visitors a month these days. Which is fuck all compared to many sites.
And we're all on here arguing about a fucking Star Trek movie? What the hell are we doing with our lives? -
That is a sad set of statistics! Old guys with no wives or girlfriends -- that sounds about right! Well, that sounds like those guys who are the most bitter in the TBs. That said: I loved this new STAR TREK movie...and I am younger, married and very happy (although we don't have kids yet).
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Hmm there seems to be a pattern forming here. I myself am also happily married, maybe old enough to know better, but also had a blast watching the Star Trek movie...
I don't know if there's a connection between having a life and having perspective on a popcorn movie but it sure looks like it don't it? -
ST made 5 mil less than a debut film. thats nothing to sneer about. In the end ST will make more money than both Wolverine and ANGELS and DEMONS, and will be remembered far longer as a better film.. you can quote me on that.
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So because they're 30-40 and aren't married you automatically assume they aren't in relationships? I'm almost 30, have lived with my girlfriend for six years, don't plan on getting married or plan on having kids any time soon. I'm very happy, and I hate stupid movies like New Trek.
But whatever, you do. You're the reason Hollywood keeps churning out crap and Kurtzman and Orci are still employed, even though they shouldn't be. Because of your decisions, I wouldn't be surprised if the writers who gave us Twilight will get the job to re-write the Godfather... but at least you're married. >:} -
So because they're 30-40 and aren't married you automatically assume they aren't in relationships? I'm almost 30, have lived with my girlfriend for six years, don't plan on getting married or plan on having kids any time soon. I'm very happy, and I hate stupid movies like New Trek.
But whatever, you do. You're the reason Hollywood keeps churning out crap and Kurtzman and Orci are still employed, even though they shouldn't be. Because of your decisions, I wouldn't be surprised if the writers who gave us Twilight will get the job to re-write the Godfather... but at least you're married. >:} -
OK if it cools your ardour swap "married" for "long term relationship". Either way I am being somewhat facetious. I enjoyed the movie, you didn't enjoy the movie, I'm not getting all bent up about it, I just find it amusing that all this energy is spent on hating a Star Trek film. I must admit though, I am truly honoured that Hollywood makes these films solely for lil' ole' me. If that's the case I might go ask them to have a proper stab at His Dark Materials and try not to screw it up this time.
But hell maybe not. I know people who loved The Golden Compass. They're entitled to their opinion and I've still got the books to read to my kids.
In the meantime I'll look forward to whatever Shane Meadows, Danny Boyle, Spike Jonze, and PT Anderson have got in store for me. Until JJ drops another sweet Trek bomb on us that is. A little perspective allows me to have varied tastes and enjoy stuff you see. -
So you still insist that by looking at some fairly vague statistics you can infer that those who banter here are all lonely little trolls? And why shouldn't they waste energy badmouthing a product their displeased with buying? You're wasting your time going "YAAA MOVIE". Maybe that's indicative of a married man, he just accepts?
Come now, just tell us all you enjoy crap and we'll be done with it. I mean, we all enjoy a little junk food from time to time but don't try to convince us that a painting you might buy a an indoor flea market is just as good as something that hangs in the Louvre or that the McDonald's angus burger is just as good as a Steak even at Steak prices. And please, Don't put Abrams in the same class as Danny Boyle, PT Anderson, or Spike Jonze. It ain't even close. -
You're post doesn't make a whole lot of sense to be honest. You appear to be contradicting yourself. You admit that we all like "a little junkfood" from time to time, but because I had a blast at a film you did not I ONLY enjoy "crap" and have no right to also appreciate more independent spirited "quality" films.
So you're a fascist then. Understood.
Also I don't believe I said "YAAA MOVIE" at any point as I'm not entirely sure what it means. -
I think that there might be a connection between people who actually have JOBS and those who spend hours on the TBs running down people who disagree with their nagging complaints.
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To badly go where so many recent action films have gone...a distant galaxy where no fucker can hold a camera steady during an action scene or hold a shot for longer than a nano second. Beam me the fuck up!
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Are all fucking overrated.
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Calm down, I was only being "facetious"..
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This is what you get! What happenned to Sybock!
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