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Tarantino's Music To Kill Nazis By... aka INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS soundtrack listing!!!
Hey folks, Harry here - This story has me giddy. I always love reading the soundtrack listings for Tarantino's films since he scores pretty much exclusively via "sourced music" ie - pre-existing music. But as much as I like Quentin's films - I LOVE the music he puts together - it's the candy! A source at Cannes that found the pdf file for the credits on INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS sent over the track listings. I'm dying to see how and where Green Leaves of Summer plays. Here ya go:
Hi Harry, I dunno if you'd seen this or not or if it's news or not, but on the Cannes website, they have a presskit in French. However, the last page is the entire "setlist" for the soundtrack. I know ya'll posted soundtrack info for "Death Proof" when it was released. Anyways, just thought you'd like to know. Lots of Spaghetti Western stuff, and David Bowie and the theme to Slaughter by Bill Preston and a song from The Alamo.
The Green Leaves of Summer
(d’après le film ALAMO)
De Dimitri Tiomkin,
The Verdict
(Dopo la condanna)
D’Ennio Morricone
Interprété par
Ennio Morricone
L’incontro con la figlia
D’Ennio Morricone
White Lightning
(Chanson principale du film LES BOOTLEGGERS)
De Charles Bernstein
Interprété par Charles Bernstein
Il mercenario (ripresa)
D’Ennio Morricone
Interprété par Ennio Morricone
Slaughter
De Billy Preston
Interprété par Billy Preston
Algeri: 1 novembre 1954
(LA BATAILLE D’ALGER)
D’Ennio Morricone,Gillo Pontecorvo
Interprété par Ennio Morricone,Gillo Pontecorvo
The Surrender
( La resa )
D’Ennio Morricone
Interprété par Ennio Morricone
One Silver Dollar
(Un Dollaro Bucato)
De Gianni Ferrio
Bath Attack
(d’après le film L’EMPRISE) (The Entity?)
De Charles Bernstein
Interprété par Charles Bernstein
Davon Geht Die
Welt Nicht Unter
De Bruno Balz,Michael Jary
Interprété par Zarah Leander
The Man With The Big Sombrero
De Phil Boutelje,Foster Carling
Interprété par Sam Shelton and the Michael Andrew Orchestra
Ich Wollt Ich
Waer Ein Huhn
De Hans-Fritz Beckmann, Peter Kreuder
Interprété par Lilian Harvey, Willy Fritsch, Paul Kemp
Cat People
(Putting Out The Fire)
De David Bowie, Giorgio Moroder
Mystic and Severe
D’Ennio Morricone
Interprété par Ennio Morricone
The Devil’s Rumble
(d’après le film DEVIL’S ANGELS)
De Mike Curb
Interprété par The Arrows
What I’d Say
Zulus
D’Elmer Bernstein
Un Amico
D’Ennio Morricone
Interprété parEnnio Morricone
Tiger Tank
De Lalo Schifrin
Eastern Condors
Rabbia e Tarantella
D’Ennio Morricone
Interprété par Ennio Morricone
Full credits
-Harry P.
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Sounds shite...
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you have bested me Chuffster!
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It's ok G,you can have first place;)
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that the talentless hack is still standing on the shoulders of giants.
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and I thought this was gonna have an original score? (the first Tarantino movie to do so)
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Is it the WWII era Bowie or the 80's Bowie?
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this movie should rock! i wonder if Tarintino was invited to go to the BILDERBERG Meetings being held in Greece right now.
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And damn his crappy propaganda flick to hell.
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that can only be an awesome thing.
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Cat People? You've ruined the end of the film, nice going!
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I had always hoped that Tarantino would use Morricone's music from that film one day.
"Davon geht die Welt nicht unter" and "Ich wollt ich wär ein Huhn" however are hackneyed clichés for German viewers (and are probably even known outside of Germany by now from some German movies where these songs were used). -
I don't think Tarantino is "talentless" Kizeesh. Far from it. Unfortunately, that is why his latest movies infuriate me so often - this incredibly talented filmmaker who can only make overindulgent hipster flicks instead of something real or genuine.
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make a good movie? He seems to be a one-trick pony indeed.
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Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown --
That's three by my count.
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You guys are soooo full of shit .Thinking he's no good ok understandable not for everyone .Talentless hack though complete bullshit .You guys would be right at home on imdb boards
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May 15, 2009 5:34:29 AM CDT
It's funny, I was just watching Slaughter the other day
by tylerdurden3395
Great fucking Billy Preston tune. I'm not sure how it'll fit a WWII movie, but it's still pretty cool.
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...is a ridiculous choice. I can just imagine how some pseudo-hipster no-knowledge-of-music-or-history college freshmen will start listening to this on their Ipod after seeing Tarantino's "SO cool" piece of crap. I guess in the end it will be Germans who are laughing.
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Ther goes Quentin, ripping off other movie soundtracks yet again! Bravo...what a genius...Awesome creativity!
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are on the way and will fukk this shit fest into pieces!
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in a second just by lookin at the pussy cast of besterds!
tarantina is a one trick pony was and will be...always!
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nothing more 2 say about this shit, wont pay for it, wont download it, wont rent it, wont watch it!
its about sucking toes of a girl who wants 2 kill hitler...wow, amazing!
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not knock offs like your crap
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or call is pussy tarts or chicks in uniformed, doesnt matter, dont care!
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The quality of his films has really gone downhill. He's far too self-indulgent these days.
Think back to Pulp Fiction. I walked out of that film buzzing at what I'd just seen. It's easy to forget just how innovative it was back then. I felt like I was seeing something truly fresh & groundbreaking.
In my opinion, everything since then has been at best "well made" (Jackie Brown)& at worst, cliched, half-hearted shit. You could even call them paraodies to a certain extent. -
No max raab?
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David Bowie my rotten ass.
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What does the condiment and this movie have in common? About as much as The Expendables and Inglourious Basterds have in common. Jesus Christ people get a new retort.
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May 15, 2009 6:05:44 AM CDT
what about david bowie in ww2 is the fukker tarantino that stupi
by muri71
well again he will explain its artsy fartsy etc thing...like once he promised 2 do a badass movie with a badass cast, like sly, arnie, bruce etc and then came up with this pussy cast as like: pitt, roth, myers, schweiger, brühl etc because he changed the script in reason of he wants it 2 be more artsy fartsy...FUKK YOU TARANTINO u stupid hack, u liar one trick pony!
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May 15, 2009 6:08:24 AM CDT
tarantino only does movie because he wants 2 get in the pants of
by muri71
and thats why his last 3 movie sukked ass.
the reason behind all these movies was he wanted 2 get laid by talentless wanna be actresses and thats it.
look at the stories about the last 3 movies.
2 were about this uma and her feet and her ass and "deathproof" was just about ass and feet and the only good thing was kurt and he fukked snake up really bad by chicks everyone hated. -
Just a dude who was up late looking on the cannes website and figured you'd wanna see it :) If I would've known you'd've posted it I would've gone by this handle. Ah well.
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Tarantino never said he wanted Sly, Arny and Willis for IB. That was a rumor that started years ago. Tarantino confirmed he never considered them when he as doing press for Death Proof
http://in.movies.yahoo.com/news-detail/8717/Willis-Schwarzenegger-Stallone-star-in-Tarantinos-Inglorious-Bastards.html
And the cast for the basterds now is important to the themes of propaganda in the film. To the nazi's, the basterds might as well be Sly, Arny and Willis, that's what the fear of the group did to them, when in reality, they are mostly a bunch of jewish kids.
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another weird knowlesism, add it to bugnuts, chocolate covered pussy juice and another one he did the other day which ive forgotten...and theres plenty more over the years. keep adding to the lexicon fat harry!! we love you!
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Quentin Tarantino worked on the script for almost a decade.
(at some point it was and should be about the action icon badasses)
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reason 1.Michael Madsen was originally announced to star as a character named Babe Buchinsky.
(for over 2 years he was listet at imdb and then tarantino changed the script after shooting "deathproof" to a bunch of jews, so badass thing didnt worked out anymore)
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resaon 2.British actor Simon Pegg was originally set to play Lt. Archie Hicox but was forced to pull out of the project because of scheduling conflicts. Michael Fassbender replaced him.
(he really doesnt fit into my jewish guy...what about you?)
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The name of Brad Pitt's character, Lt. Aldo Raine, is a homage to actor Aldo Ray.
(aint in my jewish book of look;)
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According to Eddie Murphy, he was in talks with Tarantino for a role in the film.
( really in NO WAY JEWISH)
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i didnt offend any talkbacker her if u are tarantino himself, then FUCK YOU!
otherwise dont call me anything...when all you know is not really... something! -
Quentin Tarantino worked on the script for almost a decade. (at some point it was and should be about the action icon badasses) ------------------------------ ----- reason 1.Michael Madsen was originally announced to star as a character named Babe Buchinsky. (for over 2 years he was listet at imdb and then tarantino changed the script after shooting "deathproof" to a bunch of jews, so badass thing didnt worked out anymore cus quentin now wanted it 2 be mor artistic) ------------------------------ --- resaon 2.British actor Simon Pegg was originally set to play Lt. Archie Hicox but was forced to pull out of the project because of scheduling conflicts. Michael Fassbender replaced him. (he really doesnt fit into my jewish guy...what about you?) ------------------------------ ---- The name of Brad Pitt's character, Lt. Aldo Raine, is a homage to actor Aldo Ray. (aint in my jewish book of look;) ------------------------------ ---- According to Eddie Murphy, he was in talks with Tarantino for a role in the film. ( really in NO WAY JEWISH) ------------------------------ i didnt offend any talkbacker her if u are tarantino himself, then FUCK YOU! otherwise dont call me anything...when all you know is not really... something!
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"mostly" being the keyword, and I don't follow what your reasons are for either... are they reasons it should have been about action icon badasses? simon pegg is more badass than michael Fassbender is a point? He had a change of heart and wrote a character out of a script? what are you saying? If you read the draft that hit online you'd know it isn't about action and badasses, its more about propaganda and suspense.
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I hate this shit, Tarantino uses music inextricably linked to other films and it completely takes you out of the film, I'm looking at you Kill Bill.
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I feel a bit guilty about it,like mocking the afflicted, but his nonsensical rantings are really chuckle worthy.
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Do you seriously believe Tarantino needs to make a multimillion dollar movie to get laid? At this point in his career? Stop projecting your own frustration on famous people and go find a girlfriend, already.
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Yes, it's pretty funny, how sad he is. But seriously, he's probably 15.
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just a few examples:
http://www.filmstalker.co.uk/archives/2007/03/stallone_on_avatar_and_inglori.html
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http://www.everythingtarantino.com/data/2005/0207-211938.shtml
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first link doesn't work, second said it was a rumor, specifically, the guy who wrote it said "i wouldn't put much stock in this."
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that tarantina himself started that rumor, that he wants 2 make a badass movie with some action icons like sly, arnie & willis and now he gives us this shitty cast with pitt, roth, myers, schweiger etc because he changed the script in the favour of make it more "realistic" and "artistic" yeah right, cus jews fought the war on their own, killed hitler and won it, right?!;)
so there is no point about this cast and no excuse in way to make it more "realistic" cus this movie isnt all about realism! its a freaking movie about something that didnt happend in that kind of way!
so their shouldnt be any reason why you protect this...with talks about "well jews were send to war then..."! well all kind of races were send to war then. what could go wrong if sly, arnie and willis would have been some captains or whatever? at least believeable leader/badass compared to some freaky lip kind of talk from pitt, who looks just ridiculous trying to be badass.
if u would fight in a war i guess you would follow a real badass more than this hairy poster boy pitt!
another point is, that tarantina is a liar he really talked some years about this project and what it should become and changed it all in favour so that he could cast some more women into this thing, because he needs more foot and ass shots.
as far as i can tell...somehow melanie laurent is one of the leads in this movie, get my point?!
in no way diane kruger deserves screen time, she has no talent, never had and has an ugly voice!!!! why would anyone cast her, if tarantino wouldnt try to get into her pants? if he is what some of you guys say, then he would know she cant act shit!
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Ok what has QT actually done? One good script for True Romance. One good script of a serial-killer/vampire movie and a mediocre retread of Badlands.
His first directed movie was a scene by scene remake of City on Fire which he then passed off as his own work. Which makes him a plaguerising cunt.
Then an overrated gangster film which is enjoyable but not the new Mecca people pretend it is.
A blaxploitation Elmore Leonard wannabe film that was dull as ditchwater and no amount of A-list cameos could save it.
Then a 4 hour b-movie wank-fest that is painfully boring and stupid.
Then he makes a high budget, student movie with his best mate Rodruigez. And it was bollocks as well, a fast car and Kurt Russell doesn't make up for 10 minute monologues of retarded "cool chat"
Now he's re-making another exploitation movie, that was in itself a rip-off of the Dirty Dozen.
The man is a talentless dweeb who doesn't deserve a penny of my money as he's barely had an original thought in his life. He's got 3 fucking scripts under his belt that were decent and a couple of movie that are watchable without wanting to scratch my own eyes out.
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and in france with this no go actors like: til schweiger, daniel brühl, eli roth, diane kruger...!
go buy ur ticket and have fun!
a way to go krauts and frenchies.
as far as i can remember every movie that has been made in babelsberg/berlin sucked ass!
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yeah right!
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so the real men of filmmaking will get the money they deserve!
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That's pretty much all he does these days. "Oh I love this old movie let me make one just like it. Oh I love this song from this movie let me put it in my movie."
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the best joke of the year and it will be only beacuse of he made everything around this deadline. so he can premiere it there and the juros will honour that with a price but it still will be a joke!
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do you know tarantino started that rumor? He has been vocal about being a fan of Sly and Arny, he already casted Willis before, we all knew he was making a dirty dozen kind of film. the assumption that it the cast he wanted could have been guessed by anyone. You say "cus jews fought the war on their own, killed hitler and won it, right?!;)" and well, ahem, you don't know much about this film, do you? Because it is not based on anything that happened, and it doesn't try to fit in between the lines of historical accuracy, on the contrary, it becomes a piece of propaganda in its own right. Besides, WW2 was won by regular people, not just Rambo's and Terminators. The term badass you love to use is applicable to a film like the expendables, not so much this movie. You also go on about Tarantino being a liar because he, as you put it, "took changed it all in favour so that he could cast some more women into this thing, because he needs more foot and ass shots." First, the main character is a woman, and you are making the assumption that he should not expand his film in the years of its development. which is ridiculous.
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For ze downloading of ze filmz
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I can understand his using "existing music" cues for his other films, but I'm afraid that using it in this one is going to be a BAD mistake. This is the kind of film that deserves an original score. Using all of this pre-existing music is just going to be distracting. This looks more like a temp-track list. This doesn't make me NOT want to see the film, but for someone like me who is very familiar with film music, this is going to be a BIG minus. I want to be absorbed by the film-and its music-not taken away by thoughts of "oh, that music is from a different film from several decades ago. Oh, and David Bowie music in a WWII action pic...what the fuck is THAT all about?!?!? C'mon Quentin, pull your head out of your ass and quit relying on old tricks. You're better than that.
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have no idea or any kind of clue what talent is.
so are the people who cast them in movies.
should i repeat myself about casting eli roth and m.myers or daniel brühl?
i really dont know any really good movie, without a good cast or at least talented actors?!
do you...?
is it all up to brad pitt who is overrated as hell but 2 be honest did some good movies as "fight club", "legends" and "12 monkeys"?
if everyone around him sucks, how can he save the movie if he even cat act himself out of a nutback?
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I feel like I missed an article here, but wasn't Morricone tentatively on-board for scoring this thing?
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is just fine with me, because a lot of it is warrented. QT does somethings great, but mostly he is shit.
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Well even if he'd only done Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction - that would be a hell of a lot more than any of us sad fucks.
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May 15, 2009 8:26:05 AM CDT
Inglorious Homo Soundtrack tb, prance it fairies, prance it.
by evilwizardglick
Fucking gayest opening line of any talkback yet.
Any soundtrack TB, unless it is Supernatural, is geared for those who take it up the ass. -
lookie here:http://www.festival-cannes.com/assets/Image/Direct/029759.pdf
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to see Tarantino-bashing has finally become "a la mode"! Thank god all the pimple-faced to-cool-for-school hipsters that used to applaud him are finally growing up. One-trick Pony indeed. And giving Til Schweiger a job while so many qualified and talented people are becoming unemployed is unforgivable! "QT" won't see a single cent from me, I'd rather donate the price of admission to the homeless.
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Besser hätte ich es nicht sagen können.
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Tarantino is for hipsters now? The same people who buy free-trade organic coffee and ride single speed bicycles like to watch Reservoir Dogs and Death Proof?
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for a FULL one of a kind Morricone score, as HE just HAD to be at Cannes this year. So, he simply goes out and rips off pre-existing music. Fucking Genius? No; FUCKING AMATEUR.This thing should have been about Nazi Murdering Jews, with a Full on Morricone, spaghetti western-ish, score. Instead, it looks like we get a story about a girl, a few decent scenes and Cat fucking People.
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when we don't care about the movie? This will be the rancidest turd yet from QT.
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twist it and break it off.
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Rightly said.
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man I'm outta touch.
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True Romance, Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction - these movies where mind blowing back then. When he made Jackie Brown it seemed he would get artier and more stylish with time, but then something happened in the huge brack between Jackie and Kill Bill - for some reason Tarantino movies don't have this surefire style they had anymore. Kill Bill 2 was just boring, both movies were kind of silly, but he said "It's what Vince Vega would watch" so i thought it was kind of an in joke and he would go back to make serious movies again. But no, he stayed in silly exploitation mode. Death Proof was silly and not very exciting, and everything i have seen of Basterds so far looks just... bland. What happened to you Mister Tarantino?
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I'd much rather see a bunch of nazis bash eli roth's brains out than pay to see this crap.
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I think this film will be way better than people think. The WWII premise is a huge departure for QT, and I'm thinking the story will be pretty creative and intense. It's not just a Nazi-killing movie, either, though that's a big chunk of it -- it's also alt-history. I'm really interested to see where it goes.
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I don't treat movies like sports teams. Fucking idiots.
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May 15, 2009 10:49:39 AM CDT
I guess I can't sit at the cool kids' table
by spifftacular squirrel girl
I'm all for anything new from Tarantino. And yes, I was one of the 3 people who thought Death Proof was better than Planet Terror.
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DEATH PROOF couldhavebeen as good as PLANET TERROR if they would have cut all the annoying chicks-at-the-bar shot out of it and given Kurt Russell some more time behind the wheel and on the screen.
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I can't for the life of my figure out why this guy is famous. He's done --- what, maybe 4 good films tops? I ***LOVED*** Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, and Kill Bill 1+2. All his other films are rubbish though.
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I bet that will be a spinechilling moment in the film...cant miss with Bowie.
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But yeah, The Expendables will be properly fisting massive cunt in 2010. Couldn't be happier.
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"I ***LOVED*** Reservoir Dogs, Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, and Kill Bill 1+2." I don't get it, lots of people hate on QT than go to say "Oh....but I do happen to worship almost all his movies!"
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Eyepatch and all.
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I am officially sick of movies revolving around WWII, Nazis, Jews, and the holocaust. It just seems so lazy because Nazis don't require any character development - they're Nazis, so they're evil and it's okay to cheer while they're being tortured, maimed, and killed. I saw the trailer five times with each viewing of Watchmen, and it's disturbing to hear Brad Pitt's character refer to the Germans (and he does say "Germans" rather than "Nazis" a couple of times) as subhuman, etc. when he and the "Basterds" are presented as the heroes of the film. If the underlying message of the movie is something about how we all have the capability to be inhuman monsters, including Jews, and that "evil" is not applicable only to Nazis, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But from the trailer it looks like it's just treating it as a joke, and that we're supposed to smile and grin along with Eli Roth at the mere thought of slaughtering Germans. Sneaky way of avoiding the "torture porn" label. I'd much rather see Werewolf Women of the SS.
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someone with more time than me should be pulling that lot together as I type...
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even if they bring will smith and zac efron & shia, it would only be more shit (but it would make money) the only problem this movie has is quentin!
he forgot how to cast a movie and how to make a movie...! this will bomb and everybody who has seen the trailer and says "wow this looks good" has no clue of acting. its bad acted, bad done...man this freaking shit looks like a tv movie from germanys main network "rtl" means: SHITTY!
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I think there would be some serious magic there.
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and yes it is a sports thing.
u cant support 2 teams, you can only be in one and only root for one, this is how sport work!
between this shit and "the expendables" i prefer the badass version and give my money to someone who actually listens to fans instead of this "once had talent" guy, who gets everything he wants from the studios! while more talented movie makers like sly had to work harder for it!
anyway sly will deliver the goods while quentin will deliver a chick movie with a leading chick lady and we know how those stories of quentin work out...watch j.brown, kill bill and deathproof = SHIT FESTS!
man i was pissed when i came out of the cinema after watching "deathproof"...i was really pissed at those anoying chicks who kicked kurts butt and then i realized it aint the fault of the chicks. tehy didnt wrote the script they had to be that way and they had to kick snakes ass ( who was the only good thing) after that i realized man it was the same in kill bill. madsen was the best thing in this shit and he was fukked up 2!
after i realized that, i said to myself i`ll give quentin another last try. then i read who he had cast: eli roth, til schweiger, diane kruger, m. myers, daniel brühl and i was like...i`m done with quentin. some month later...i gave the trailer a try out of curiosity and after that it was clear (WHILE I WAS LAUGHING MY ASS OFF HOW CHEAP AND SILLY AND AMATEUR LIKE IT WAS DONE).
quentin simply was and is a one trick pony...after and before, that he only made remake and reboots, or stealing whole stuff from other movies etc.
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fuckin' pussy ass hypocrites.
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I agree with a lot of what you say, but SHUT. THE FUCK. UP.
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I keep seeing all this about The Expendables is for 'real men'? Really? I've read it so much here that its starting to sound like a cover up for your secret homosexuality, emphasizing on how big of a man you are. Shut up. Expendables will be like 'Rambo': okay but not that great. 'Expendables' wont be able to even TOUCH Tarantino's work of this film. The soundtrack will be great for this film WHEN WE HEAR IT USED! Don't criticize something you haven't even heard or seen yet. That Bowie song will most likely be used brilliantly in the film, like most of the music choices he makes for his films. All the Tarantino haters can suck huge fat camel dick, you know, because they're 'real men' and all.
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PULP FICTION is a trick.
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I will not see it. Just like I never saw Kill Bill 2. I did like Death Proof's last half though. First half reminded me of sitting through the bullshit that was four rooms in 1993. I'll see parts of this on TNT someday probably. I will watch The Expendables about 20 times with a 160 foot long Arrakis sandworm boner.
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Or the ventroquilist from freaks and geeks and that fucking hack behind the hostel movies and Brad Pitt's worst performance yet? Hmmm....
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When did Dolph Lundgren become the benchmark of quality cinema? This place confuses the fuck out of me.
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I know Tarantino doesn't like putting the music into someone else's hands for fear that the score won't be to his liking, but man if he is just going to keep using more and more Morricone soundtracks why not just get the guy to make a new score for his movie?
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First film to make you cheer on the Nazi's!
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Another one of those pretentious, snooty hipster jerk offs whose fans think he's some big genius just for stringing together a bunch of nonsensical, offensive crap. I see nothing "genius" about his work, only a junkie hack worshiped by the oh-so-trendy hipster crowd. Don't care for him, if that wasn't already obvious.
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The term hipster is used, sometimes in contradictory ways, to describe types of middle-class males with interest in non-mainstream fashion, culture, films, etc. They approptiate other generations and groups movements and cultures and these aesthetics are assimilated (actually cannibalized) into a repertoire of meaninglessness, from which the hipster can construct any identity or meaning they wish. Hence a hipster can apathetically plunder from another, often marginalized sector of society like Black America, and get all the the funky otherness of their culture without all the scary black people or history of pain and suffering that goes with it.
Of course, the whole point of hipsters is that they avoid labels and being labeled – a hipster will never acknowledge he is a hipster. However, their search for non-conformity reduces their lifestyle to a pose, a pretense which involves always trying to appear "cool.” Of course, as the Cool never try to be cool, the internal contradictions of Hipsterdom are exposed.
Which brings us back to QT and Inglorious Basterds. Quentin’s only references in life seems to be other movies and pop culture and he has no concept that there is an actual world out there and that some people might have actually a different viewpoint of what war is. Never mind that he is making a movie that takes place during a historical event and ignoring the historical facts, he is also making a war movie that does not care to be accurate at all about war and conflict during a time when we have actual men and women fighting overseas (of course, what do you expect from a man who once compared 9-11 to a film he saw and said he didn’t see the big deal).
For QT doesn’t want to show any sort of reality about war, he just wants to show the “cool” stuff he saw in other movies. Nor does he want to actual explore any real themes that might be perplexing us such as is it alright to torture or can you have rules during war? I am sure he will give a passing mention to such themes as a cover and defense against his critics (“see, he brought that up”) without really delving into those areas because such deep thoughts would be a distraction from the the “cool” moments. The ideas of sacrifice, loss of your soul, compassion and humanity in a inhuman world is just not as sexy for QT as showing guys kill and butcher people with baseball bats.
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...than he is a director. I'd like to see one of his screenplays in the hands of someone like Peter Berg or Michael Mann. They'd shoot it without the Tarantino-hipster stuff that he loves to indulge in his movies.
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has apparently never seen a Brett Ratner film.
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and a good percentage of it is more than a little unfair.The thing about Tarantino is that he uses genre conventions, and combines them in interesting ways, in opposing juxtapositions, so that you get a new perspective on them. It simply isn't just a matter of ripping off shit and throwing it into a blender (as for the persistent myth that all he did for Reservoir Dogs was rip off City on Fire scene by scene, any one who's actually seen it knows it is by no means a play by play remake. Some of you fuckers just believe everything you've read somewhere. It's just like the myth that Star Wars was a straight rip of the Hidden Fortress).I read the script; I liked it, I wasn't utterly enamoured by it. But the guy above who posted that this movie is all about propaganda, is bang on - the casting of wimpy Jewish kids is very deliberate, even though I'm sure that we all would rather have seen Sly, Arnie, Bruce, etc. The film is all about propaganda - and this extends to the 'morally justified' slaughter of the Nazis as well, that we the audience will be expected to applaud - a meta-text if you will. This is where Tarantino is at his best - when the fact that he makes surface level movies about other movies becomes an asset to the them of the film. Ditto Pulp Fiction - which was a post-modern movie ABOUT surface - thus rendering criticisms that it had no real emotional core utterly moot.As for politically correct claims, such as from Contintalop above) that this movie is negative because it does not show the reality of war - well, so fucking what? Inglourious Basterds will be a pulp comic book. There are plenty of earnest, serious takes on war and human suffering if you want that. I like to think people are intelligent enough to decipher what's to be taken serious and what's slightly tongue-in-cheek. And by no means do I have any love for smug hipsterism. All events or human emotions can be depicted in any way you choose. I can't be botheed with idiot claims like that one by Michael Haenke (sic) where he said violence must alway be presented as serious. Its nonsense-film is an entirely subjective experience.Anyway, Tarantino is 4 for 5 with me (I didn't much care for Death Proof. Jackie Brown and Pulp are terrific movies. I care less for Dogs and Kill Bill but still enjoyed them. True Romance (and his original script for NBK) were great. He is no hack (some of you really need to learn what that word really means). He IS a cokehead, borderline illiterate, and his appearances on crap like American Idol does him few favours, but he is absolutely an idiot savant. I'm hoping he knocks it out of the park with Basterds. At least he isn't trying to shill us Inglourious Basterds pizzas like that car salesman, McG (a TRUE hack).
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..or the competition between Basterds and Expendables...isnt this a site for people who love films?
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Brilliant! Love Davie Allan and The Arrows!
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I remember eagerly anticipating Goodnight Moon to start off Kill Bill Vol. 2, it being track 1 on the soundtrack, and I kept waiting and waiting, and then it comes up as the SECOND credit song. Curious, like all, to see how Bowie fits in.
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..the camera work in "The House of the Blue Leaves" scene from KB1 was so cool..as in Aint it Cool..
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want to see deathproof again.
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but Jackie Brown is a great film and you're all fucking morons if you think otherwise
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When he was so much better at ripping off Martin Scorsese? Maybe Joe Pesci visited him with a baseball bat...
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...but this site has become like Miami in the 1980's. Except instead of Cuba releasing all their degenerates and retards we have IMDB and youtube to blame for this wave of incoherent reactionary posters.
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Now all the Tarantino haters who AREN'T aspiring filmmakers with a really terrible script on your PC, put your hands down. Oh look at that, nobody put their hands down. Jealousy is ugly, kids.
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"His first directed movie was a scene by scene remake of City on Fire"
No it wasn't. Watch City on Fire someday.
"Then an overrated gangster film"
Yeah the most influential film of the last twenty years, big whoop!
"A blaxploitation Elmore Leonard"
If by Elmore Leonard wannabe, you mean Leonards favorite film from his books, then yeah.
"Then a 4 hour b-movie wank-fest that is painfully boring"
I'll give you "stupid", but if you say Kill Bill was boring, you're talking out of your ass and you know it.
"a fast car and Kurt Russell doesn't make up for 10 minute monologues of retarded cool chat"
Not for you, maybe, but I like Kurt Russel and car chases.
"Now he's re-making another exploitation movie"
It's not a remake, moron.
"The man is a talentless dweeb who etcetera etcetera"
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Bowie? Morricone? Bernstein? Shifrin? I do not understand! Once Upon A Time in Nazi-Occupied France, you fucks! "Basterds" is a wild punk rock - spaghetti western - war flick. A hack? Tarantino is one of the few, if not the only, true pop auteur in american cinema. What a bunch of fucking squares! I´m outta here...
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The jealousy argument is really lame, dude.
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No war movies don't have to be played seriously, but like I said before, it speaks volumes about QT that he can't even imagine a serious war movie. Especially when we have people fighting in an actual war.
A sure sign of hipsterism is that you don't take things seriously - everything is just a fucking lark.
And for the record I do think QT is incredibly talented. I just wish he would step away from constantly trying to explore pop art and trying to show how much he understands cinema and instead show that he might actually know something about the real world. -
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Bowie and Morricone... another great soundtrack. Bowie is God, b
by chariowalda_barbarossa
We know QT is quite talentd when it comes to picking his soundtracks. Cat People in a WW2 movie? Can only be a good idea.
There's only a few contemporary musicians I call myself a fan of. Actually there are only 3. And on top of that list is Bowie. Have you ever been to a Bowie concert? If ever again the opportunity should arise, if we get another album and tour from David, that is, you must not let that opportunity pass by. Too bad I discovered Bowie only in '96, just a few months to late to catch a great Tour. Anyway, I've been to a couple of great shows since then.
July 2002, Cologne. The Heathen tour which more than made up for the somewhat weaker "hours..." Album a few years earlier. After what had allready been a great concert of some 20 songs, most of the new album which the fans really liked and some greatest hits stuff, Bowie announced they'd play the complete 1977 "Low" album as an encore.
Now you have to know, many Bowie fans consider that one to be his best album ever. It's not as easily accessible as the early 70's glam rock classics, the b-side of the album consits of mostly electronic instrumentals, collaboration with Brian Eno, the lyrics of thet a-side songs are reduced, bioled down to the essentials, compared to earlier albums. We sometimes call it neoexpressionism. Suffice to say, up to that point I just didnt get it. Didn't dislike the album but didn't count it anywhere near my favorites either.
But that night in 2002 it hit me like the hammer of god. The exhaustion of a rock concert, that certain atmosphere, and then that music. It was... elevating. A revelation. I was blind but now i can see. Now whenever the topic comes up I wholeheartedly agree with many Bowie fans, the enlightened ones, you know, that "Low" definitely is Bowie's best album.
I've had my share of concerts, not only Bowie ones, and I'm sure there's many more good ones further down the road, but I think its unlike that anything will ever surpass that night in 2002, when to our great surprise they played an entire, decades old album. As an encore. And I finally got it.
What where we talking about? Ah, yes, Cat People in Inglorious Basterds. Nice song, I like it. Will surely fit in nicely. One of the very few good things about the 80s. We enlightened ones consider the 80s Bowie's weakest decade, his greatest commercial successes marking his artistic all time low.
And Morricone, I wanted to say something about that, too. His music was the best in the Kill Bill score, the piece played when Bride escapes from her coffin marking my favorite musical moment in all of QT's films. It was just such a great payoff moment to the build up from the cruel tutelage of Pai Mei.
So this new soundtrack listing is very reasssuring to me, Basterds is something to look forward to.
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I find all the bashing of Tatantino to be funny. People often call him a hack, he rips off others movies yet Tarantino ALWAYS gives credit. In interviews he always talks about how a certain movie influenced a scene or other parts of his work. Enzo G. Castellari, who directed the original Inglorious Bastards is friends with Tarantino. In fact, Castellari wanted Tatantino (along with Mickey Rourke) to appear in his next movie. I could understand if the people behind these originals that have inspired Tarantino are calling him a ripoff or hack but the fact is he's friends with most of them. Also, Tarantino has been a major force behind the re-releases of many great yet out of print movies, especially horror movies. Cannibal Holocaust was FINALLY given a proper release in the U.S. thanks to Tarantino's company. I can understand if people dislike his movies but Tarantino has almost always cited and given credit to his influences. It's not like his movies are scene for scene ripoffs. He throws in his influences here and there. George Lucas did the same thing with Star Wars and nobody called him a hack for it.
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The version at the end of the movie is too disco; the album version has a great drum solo and just a better sound to it.
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I think I'd prefer the movie version. Though I have to admit I haven't listened to the cursed Let's Dance album in quite a while. I'm not even sure I remember the drum solo you're talking about.
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Fuck that shit.
Seriously though, I don't get the reuse of Morricone stuff. I mean it worked well in Kill Bill but there have got to be composers out there looking for work. We're in an economic crisis for Pete's sake. I'm not sure what I think about this movie right now, but of course I'll see it. I just have no clue if it's going to be something I'll love or loathe. -
When I read the script, I thought to myself he should use that cue from KELLY'S HEROES: Tiger Tank! And he did! I fucking love this guy. Every decision he makes hits all the right notes. I love being in sync with him!
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but his schedule wouldn't allow him to score the film. That's why
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Now that I heard it again, it was when the drums go into double time. Basically the drums kicked ass in that version. But either way, I'll be interested in how Tarantino uses it.
For reference:
Album version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0djNOF4g5NQ
Movie Version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47AR54Bp6oY&feature=related
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Bashing before one sees a film is immature, irresponsible, and just plain disrespectful.
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Bashing one out DURING a film is immature, irresponsible, and just plain disrespectful.
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I salute you!
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God dammit, Tarantino, hire your OWN fucking composer! You're like a God damn film student.
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Win the film wins the Palme' Dore you guys are going to look like nerdy douchebags. All you film schhol students are fucking tools that if best you'll never make movies better Like QT. Your just another Brett Ratner in training.
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It's a lame argument, but sadly true. I've never known a Tarantino-basher who wasn't a hack film student.
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welcome to the light, Chariowalda. Eno is scoring Peter Jackson's Lovely Bones at the moment. If only Jackson and DelToro realizes that the kind of sounds Eno and Bowie came up with on Low, is something that would make Middle Earth a much more unique and spellbinding world...
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"In the the darkest steppes of Morder I met a girl so fair..... Get some goddamn Zepppelin in Middle Earth Del Toro!!!!!
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comparing expendables with basterds has a reason, cus the cast of expendables (some of them) should have been the cast of basterds.
but tarantina desided otherwise after rewriting the script to a more "artistic" movie.
but this HACK was talking for years that he wanted 2 reboot mickey rourke and put some more badass guys like sly, arnie and bruce into it and michael madsen was listed as some babe bublinske (whatever) at imdb for over 2 years. so first it should be a badass action icon cast and now it is this shit cast with who?
yeah: eli roth, myers, kruger, brühl and til schweige! IF ANYONE OUTTHERE THINKS TIL SCHWEIGER HAS DONE ONE GOOD MOVIE WERE HE ACTS GOOD IN HAS NO IDEA OF FILMMAKING/TALENT!!!
name me one good movie with til schweiger and i tell u...you just dont have any clue!
same goes out to diane kruger, ugly voice no talent etc.
well i think a filmmaker who casts those untalented actors, cant be any kind of good!
oh i forgot our LEADING LADY PITT, well we´ve seen in the trailer how he acts in this. this movie will be apeshit and doesnt need to be supported. between this shitfest and "the expendables" the choice is clear for everyone who knows what should have been supported and for those who dont, go watch "deathproof" again cus this is what u`ll get if u puy a ticket. dont complain afterwards will be too late then.
please dont jump on the band wagon when "the expendables" comes out then its too late.
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it will only be because of he made the movie for the deadline of cannes! so he gets a little bit french love there first.
he was a jury member once and they like him there, only of that reason.
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i bash at tarantina thats some of my main reasons.
i liked him once, even i knew he never did something origin until today, like sorsese, coppola, scott, carpenter, stallone etc
really we cant support his chick casts anymore.
"deathproof" had what 6-7 leading ladies, they were all anoying and only one cool/good actor.
basterds has 2 leading ladies melanie laurent and brad pitt i have no problem with them but the whole rest of the cast is just really not any kind of cast i would make any movie with and everybody who knows shit about the movies knwos that!
til schweiger is the worst german "actor" around and in second place "daniel brühl" and worst "actress" of germany goes to "diane kruger".
she was a model and not my type of model which is not a problem, but no talent, an ugly voice, she aint got shit.
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They just used that Bowie track a few weeks ago! heh, no biggie, Bowie's the shit and I'll never get sick of his good stuff.
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I used to love his comedies for making me laugh. Death Proof = not a laugh in sight.
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That video over at rabbitholes isnt a photographed video, it's a computer rendering of what the poster is supposed to look like. So it doesnt really indicate how well the actual poster really works.
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This was of course about that 3D Terminator poster. Now where's the edit button?
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I guess when you put it that way it makes sense. I wouldn't call myself a basher, per se, though I have many terrible scripts cluttering up my computer.
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Yes, the guy himself can be quite an ass. He can say the damnest things that makes my jaw hits the floor. Sometime,s he really talks and acts like a jerk. But as a filmmaker, he has always shown to be a talented and imaginative filmmaker. And evne when he goes on "reference" mode, he actually mannages to pull it off in taking other previous filmamker's stuff and makes it his own. He actually is sincere in his hoges and it shows in his movies.Where the hate for Tarantino cames from, is a mystery for me, though. Probably it cames form the same ass hole where the love of JJ-Trek cames from.
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I love RESERVOIR DOGS, PULP FICTION and JACKIE BROWN. Really liked KILL BILL VOL. 1 and 2 when they came out, but they slowly grew to annoy me for some reason. DEATH PROOF I flat out fucking hated. INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS just fails to get any kind of response out of me at this point. I'll wait for a full trailer and see how things are looking, probably catch it at the theater if it actually plays here and if the word on the street is good.
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I love love love JJ-trek, and I do have some Trek history, believe me, and I definitely enjoy QTs films a lot. The asshole where the Tarantino hate comes from is not my asshole. You can check that.
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Maybe it's a different part of the same ass hole. Becasue that shitty crap JJ-Trek certainly cames from the same nonsense crap idioticty that tries to convince that Tarantino never was a filmmaker of merit.
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You know, you might notbelieve me this, but the only QT movie i really have a problem with is Kill Bill 2. Save for the awesome bitch fight between Uma and Daryl Hannah, the movie seems misguided, as if under the impression it could be turned into a serious drama with all that lunacy going on. I rather rate Kill Bill 1 higher, even if it has no aspirations other then just to deliever a lot of kick ass. Well, i rather have a movie that delivers kick ass and is true and honest to that sentiment, then one where it's merely a glorified ass kicker with pretentions of drama. Yes, you can have both, you can have kick ass and drama, but you better make your mind about it right from the bat, and not change it midway through.Saying that, i still dig KB2. And as such, there's othing in can see in QT's career as a director that i can rate him in the same sack of crap as JJ Abrams. Mistake QT as a bad director is loony. Mistake him as an hack is pure idioticy.
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...You're obviously an illiterate buffoon and outside the realm of consideration. Bottom line, people hate Tarantino out of jealousy. If you honestly dislike him for his movies, then you'd say "Well it'd be nice if Inglourious Basterds surprised me, but we'll see", not "I hope this movie sucks bad because I want Tarantino to fail on a personal level!" Outright bashing the guy without even giving IB a chance is just ugly, petty, sad, and reeks of jealousy. I dare anyone to sit through a marathon of Tarantino films and not laugh once. If you can't do it, and by the way, you can't, then you owe IB a chance and you owe QT a fair trial.
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I hope this becomes a new AICN meme: "after quentin did paid harry the trip to germany. even if it would suck ass (it will) he would cream it in gold i bet my ass on it!"
Think of all the places you could use it "Harry's gonna cream the new Star Trek in gold, I bet my ass!" "After Stallone did sent Harry Expendables pictures, Harry will cream it in gold!" "The new Uwe Boll movie would suck ass (it will), but Harry's gonna cream it in gold." -
AsimovLives, regarding the Tarantino hate on AICN... I can see why it might baffle. I think the general crapness of DEATH PROOF is part of it, but AICN itself is also to blame.
You prob noticed that every now and then AICN takes it upon itself to 'champion' a particular film.
Happened recently with STAR TREK. Lots of articles, and a review from every writer that ever contributed to the site.
Well, before that AICN also championed HOSTEL 2 and DEATH PROOF. The consensus among tb'ers seemed to be that neither of those films were worthy of the massive amount of coverage they recieved on this site.
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I have similar problems with VOLUME 2. Tarantino spent an entire film showing Uma as this indestructible cartoon superhero... then spent another film trying to convince us she's a human being. Yeah, nice try. I still think Madsen is the best thing going on in that movie and it's a crime he wasn't nominated for best supporting actor.
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Ummmm, it IS an Elmore Leanard film... And City On Fire sucks compared to Reservoir Dogs. Dogs has the cast, the script, the soundtrack, the cinematography, the editing. No comparison... Dogs is one of the greatest first films to grace the silver screen.
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In fact his earlier gangster movies, Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, are fantastic and still re-watchable. I just became bored with his stuff because his movies became so repetitive in tone and theme. I mean, hell, even Spielberg went off and made Schindler's List, A.I. and Saving Private Ryan before going back and making gee-whiz popcorn movies (and he's the best there is, EVER, at those types of films). I think it'll take a director with a different take on a Tarantino screenplay to make it new and fresh again. Like I said before, I would be very interested to see what someone like Peter Berg or Michael Mann could do with a Tarantino-penned script. Hell, even Spielberg.
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Tarantino music is Tarantino music... even the movies I don't like as much as I wanted to, music has always been spot-on for me.
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you are smart....well said and well written. Pulp Fiction is still one of my favorite movies, but that is the last Tarantino film that i enjoyed. But you are on the mark about it all
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The credit lists Morricone, but that's the title of a great Sammo Hung movie with a cool music score. Wonder if QT's using music from Sammo's movie.
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that was a very well known track.....especially for Bowie fans
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if you do believe it or not i was a fan of tarantino once!
as fan its my right to say whats good and whats not so good and not to say that he only does great things! my whole point was that he lost it in favour of chick flicks, in favour of a so called artistic move about basterds, that he lost it casting wise etc.
some people already said it before "pulp fiction" was his last full good movie and after that, it only got worse and worse.
"jacky brown" was a homage to this untalented black chick. de niro was wasted and samuel was just samuel and the movie was just boring as hell!
"kill bill" was a tribute to the shaw bother classics and the real reason was that quentin was obsessive about gettin into the pants of uma!
to be honest this movie had moments and the best moment were owned by m.madsen!
it was well made yeah, but parts were just boring ad everything was done in favour letting uma look great.
i mean somany of you complain that another remake, reboot or reimagination comes out and another classic will be raped, well after "kill bill" i realized it the most, quentin never did anything original!
i mean if i want to see a good photographed scene and someone already did it before, then i`ll watch "lady snowblood" or "naked weapon" etc i dont need the stolen version from quentin.
about "deathproof" well this was my last try with quentin and after that shit fest i`m done with him.
he fukked the only good thing up, it was kurt. if he is such a movie fan like he always says. no film fan would fukk up snake plissken by such annoying chicks, no guy cared shit about. stuntmen mike had 30 minutes to shine and than the chicks ruled the movie. i wish they would have been gang banged by some rednecks!
he did now 3 movies about chicks "brown", "kill bill" and "deathproof" and they always won over the guys believable or not.
well quentin is an ugly fella, i really think he uses this craft of making movie only to get to the ladies. i mean fisrt it was one lady for some short moments in "pulp". after that a whole movie for pam in "jacky". then 2 episodes/vol. in "kill" for uma. then a movie about 7! chicks in "deathproof". see my point?!
the 2 good movies were "dogs" & "pulp" no ladies ruled the stories or the movies. now we have again two leading ladies melanie laurrent & diane kruger and if u do count pitt as a lady we have 3!;)
well what does that mean already, all the movies suck were chicks rule the movie of a tarantina film!
this will be it in this movie, they always try to sell it as a badass killing nazi movie but melanie is the leading lady in this
and it wont be just about badasses who kick the shit out of nazis!
its also the journey of this girl and really i have no more interest in seeing another chick flick of tarantina!
my next point is that quentin fukked the original version of basterds up.
it should be once about an action icon cast with sly, arnie, bruce, madsen etc quentin changed that in favour of a "realistic" & "artistic" approach. well what so realistic about ************SPOILER**************
killing hitler!
so back to the artistic/cast stuff...in no way is til schweiger a better actor as stallone, or pitt aint a better actor as willis.
if quentin would love movies so much, he would know how bad actors til schweiger, daniel brühl, diane krüger, m.myers and ELI ROTH are!
what i saw in the trailer of "basterds" is just bad acted, made cheap, it looks like a direct to dvd or tv movie.
so quentin lost it casting wise, quentin lost his sense/craft of movie making, quentin lost somehow his talent to write good scripts or to write good monologs.
he is far away from his first fans he won with "dogs" & "pulp".
he isnt in touch with reality anymore cus if he would he would know that his once fans are not interesed in watching more chick flicks.
i guess his main interesst is to get in touch with ladies he likes, loves or wants to get in...!
he also lost the fan faves like steve buscemi, tim roth, madsen etc.
i mean if you read this talkback from first til the last post, u`ll see its mixed. half the people are fed up with quentin and the other half defend him and hangs on to yesterday and say how good "pulp" was etc yeah, but that was in another decade.
"kill" is only a half so so good movie and "deathproof" is just bullshit! so what did he do in this decade nothing really good.
so why should i give quentin another try after i`ve seen the trailer which sucked big time and was just ridiculously stupid.
i mean you wouldnt go and watch a ben affleck movie directed by McG.
cus you know it will suck! basterds has a cast i mean there is no one really good in it. pitt was in some good movies, but he is and always was overrated and even tom cruise is a better actor as pitt and pitt is the best listed actor in this shitty cast. should i repeat me: ELI ROTH, MYERS, SCHWEIGER, KRUGER, BRÜHL...come on even if spielberg, scorese and scott would direct this together it couldnt be any good, cus every good movie needs a good cast!
about harry pimping this shitfest...of course quentin paid his visit to berlin, there is nothing less than the greatest review awaited and thats why i fight againgst this injustice and do everything i can to wake the people up and say what is the truth and if i accomplish to keep 10 people away from watching this shit. its worth the fight, cus quentin deserves a wake up call and needs to listen to the fans from the past, like stallone does these days!
if harry wont say anything bad about this movie when it comes out, i wont come to this page again! cus one thing already is for sure it has a shit cast and its made in germany and it looks really cheap!
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that just makes you look stupid. i dont need to offend anyone other than the film, the maker or actors, about this page also harry if he lost any sense of the truth!
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The kool-aid was all used up on JJ's Star Trek
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So, in truth, the general negativity agaisnt QT is merely the hangover after the over-hyping of Grindhouse and Death Proof in particular. Well, if that's so, this gives me another reason to not give a shit about hype and turn my back on it. The way i see, hyping is slowly destroying the true enjoyment of movies. I even think that for some people here, they enjoy the hype more then the movies proper.
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Yeah, Michael Madsen was actually pretty good in Kill Bill 2. That movie seems to be the last time Madsen actually bothered to act.
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I saw Reservoir Dogs back inthe day when it was released, in the theaters no less. I saw that movie before QT was QT, if you understand me. And i can't tell what a breath of fresh air that movie was, specially back in those days in 1992. No other movie was like that. Movies were either Die Hard wannabes blockbusters or Hal Hartley indies type movies. Reservoir Dogs was like something out of nowhere. It was so fresh, so rewarding, such a movie that not only was good in itself, but was a movie celarly made by a person intoxicated by cinema, and all that love was clearly onscreen. and it was impossible not to feel as intoxicated as the filmmaker was. Reservoir Dogs is a movie inlove with cinema made by a person inlove with cinema and made for people inlove with cinema. At the time, it really was the only movie out there which truly showed pure love for cinema as a medium in itself, and not merely as a business, a career oportunity or a way to waste some time for entertainment.I'd say that the people who now turned against QT most certainly are the people who only got to know him through Pulp Fiction and already when he was getting famous and laured as a new hot talent and a force to reckon with. But me, i knew him a a filmmaker way before that. For me, Pulp Fiction is the movie made by the director of Reservoir Dogs, if you know what i mean by that.
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nuff said
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in my opinion "dogs" is tarantinas best movie, even if it was stolen from "city..." i`m no "pulp" guy and that doesnt mean i didnt like "pulp" but i see it the same way. i watch "pulp" because of "dogs" and after that it went downhill and chicks dominated his movies and became more and more shitty!
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while expendables will make 500 mil. worldwide and tarantnas chick cast will make max. 200 mil.
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It was actually the better half of the whole thing. The fact that Tarantino can go from giving us a fun, hyper-violent and colourful homage to asian cinema in the first (though without much substance) and then spin that on a dime, and bring in some emotional weight and meaning to that, the consequences of revenge, in volume 2, was great (and actually informs what has come before). As I said earlier, Tarantino can shift between all poles, high to low art, tongue-in-cheek to played straight, cartoonish to 'realistic' drama, comedic violence to serious violence; his films (especially now) straddle all those extremes. He is a gifted cinematic cat burglar, able to glean meaning by weaving together all these disparate elements. Some may find this annoying. But in Jackie Brown, and Vol. 2, he appeared to be showing some genuine emotion for once.And yes, Asimov, you are right; most of the people against him are those that got caught in the mid-90's hype, and were not aware of his influences, or had not seen much foreign or B-level cinema. They thought Tarantino was entirely original, and when they found out what he was 'copying' from, they now declare him a hack. But those of us who had seen his influences before we saw his movies, understood what he was doing, and thus give him more leniency. Ditto for those who only liked his crime films and now deride his more obvious and fantastical genre homages, when in fact he was always doing such, yet people seem only to be able to handle it when he does 'realistic' fare (which in fact, are not very 'realistic' at all - they too are 'movie' movies.)
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In a way, I guess the use of pre-existing film music IS kinda cool. Personally, I was hoping for ethnic music and 40s music.
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Hate each new movie just a little bit more than the last. I can't speak for the morons who call him out for cutting and pasting, because I for the most part like his movies and the movies he is cutting and pasting from better than most of the dreck that hollywood secretes these days, but Reservoir Dogs was all badassery, coolness, and tough as hell motherfuckers on a mission, without a single misstep, and each subsequent movie has spread the goods thinner and thinner and filled the gaps with more and more Trannytino dialogue and Uma Thurman. Quit pretending the hate filled geeks don't get the man's jokes and triumphant throwbacks to the ultimate in cinema, it is precisely that we do want the awesome and know that he could deliver on all cylinders if he so chose that we hate getting fucked over more and more each trip to theater to witness one of his abortions.
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May 16, 2009 9:40:05 PM CDT
Oh, and divulging the music cues is almost more of a SPOILER
by bottombrick
than reviewing the script in one of these movies.
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When the hippies in tanks were blowing shit up?
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Check out GI Joe in his PJs.
http://tinyurl.com/ool5pd
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that he's written a twenty page essay on why he loves Superman Returns. Which makes him the gayest talkbacker ever.
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In Kill Bill 2, the consequences of her revenge is that she gets her daughter back and she rids the world of a motherfucker. It'a yet to be found in that movie the deep statement of the dehumanization of violent retribution upon his agents.Had Kill Bill keep cohoerent from movie to movie, evne if it was all just a ultra-violent hommage to all revenge genres made in the wst and east, it would still be a far richer and rewarding experience then Qt just discovering intelect into a story that pulp through adn through. sometimes a movie is deeper and makes a bigger statement by keeping a thematic and stylistic ccoherence, then just trying to pull a brainiac midway through the story that cames out of nowhere, if you get what i'm saying.
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But what if the guy's right? Whatr if he sees in it somethign we haven't? I mean, this is the guy who made most of us aware of interesting stuff going on as subtext in those exploitation movies that nobody took them much seriously and couldn't even start to guess they could be used for anything more then a beer fueled time waster.I don't always agree with QT, i don't always share his opinions, sometimes i deeply disagree with the dude, but he always has something interesting tosay, or a new angle on an old topic to say, regardless if we do agree or disagree with him.Hell, i rather listen to what QT as to say , and i rather watch a QT's failure, then listen to JJ Abrams' condescending brainless platitudes or watch any of his exacrable "sucesses".
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Kelly's Heroes, that movie is surreal. The image of a WWII tank shooting germans while playing hawaiiam music in loudspeakers, and where it's commander is an avant-la-lettre hippie, that has to be one of the most surreal images ever created for cinema. I can only imaginethe brainstorming sessions when the writers came up with that stuff. They must had all though it would a laugh having that in a WWII movie. Well, they were right, it is a laugh. I couldn't believe that stuff when i first saw the movie. It's the thing most people remember from that movie.
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Now move along, ppl.
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Expendables will rock, i have fath in sly. Not saying i wont see IB, but still a bit bummeed about his flip flop so to speak on casting. Sly went out and got almost every badass who could act worth a shit. (sorry jcvd, segal,lambert...) Just hope Bruce Willis is involved some way,keep hearing about him playing a char named Church. Schwarzenegger's involvement will be key, if he has a sweet ass part even if its small. People will be talking about it that much more. Tarantino is know mainstream as a maverick, but makes more and more "safe" choices as the years go by.At the end of the day his flims cost more and need to bring back the buck. Sly is different if he plays his cards right he can keep makeing cheap hardcore action flicks for the fans and be set if they only pull 40-60 mill stateside, the oversea gross will more than cover them and studios know it. QT needs 200mill
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My problem with QT is I just can’t buy his characters, dialogue or even the themes of his later movies. They don’t feel real, and I don’t mean realistic, I mean emotionally real. I can just detect the artifice and it causes me to disconnect from them.
In his first three movies I felt that these were actual characters, actual people and reason he had to make those movies. Sure they were archetypes from other genres, but they felt real. They were archetypes that just happened to speak a little bit like video store geeks and fanboys; in his later films they feel like hipsters posing as assassins and samurais and characters from movies. His films have basically became hipsters in drag, trying to pretend they are something they are not as they are put through the paces.
AsimovLives mentioned that QT was able to find the subtext in those exploitation movies that nobody took seriously and brought it to our attention. I agree with that, but my problem now is that QT isn’t able to tap into the authenticity that those exploitation movies or his first films had. His use of b-movie and exploitation subtext in his films feels just as forced and arbitrary now as a hack screenwriters use of Syd Field’s second plot point would feel.
I’m not saying he was always like this – just his last three movies. But that is what is bothering me about Inglorious Basterds, everything I see suggests he is still in this phase. I hope that I am wrong…
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Screw this movie. QT definitely went in the wrong direction with this one. Too bad. I was hoping to see some estrogen killing bitches go after someone.
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Stick to the Avatar stuff, my brother in Bale. That's where you do the good work.
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It's not boolean, it isn't that his last 3 movies were in one 'phase', and he might flip a switch and this movie could be right in step with Reservoir Dogs, each subsequent movie has been diminishing returns. In Reservoir Dogs he had real actors really acting and he had to apply himself 100% or he would never be able to get his failure of an acting 'career' going and amass his hoard of cocaine. Each new movie will lower the bar further.
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when uma killed that little black girl's mom in front of her and said...when you grow older...i'll be waiting...
that was about as badass as when carrie fisher told harrison... as he was about to be frozen in carbonite... that she loved him...to which he replied..."i know"...
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seem to be the only ones these days questioning what is authentic/real/emotionally involving...what is hip...or has depth...is a profoundly "hip" question...on the williamsburg bridge there's graffiti that says..."hipsters move out"....any & all cultural subsets are wrapped up and or concerned with their own authenticity...listen to rap music and the countless claims of being an original gangster....culture to some extent has always been about consumption...to single out one subset and to call that "cannibalistic" and to then argue that other marginalized groups are more authentic or have a more rightful claim to authenticity and therefore humanness because of their historicity of suffering is absurd and unfortunately counterproductive (it is the product of a reasoning which you yourself don't agree with)
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Not sure where "Putting Out Fire (With Gasoline)", and, by association, the music of Giorgio "FLASHDANCE" Moroder is gonna fit into a World War II movie. Maybe the first minute of the song, until the disco beat and the synths kicks in? What is this, Quentin Tarantino's "The Wall"?
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Forgot to add, even this dubious music choice (extra-odd, considering that "Putting Out Fire (With Gasoline)" is more or less the opening theme of CAT PEOPLE) doesn't come close to him using a cut from CRUISING in DEATH PROOF (when Kurt Russell's character first pulls in at the convenience store about halfway through the film), more or less suggesting Russell's character was both gay and into handlebar mustaches and assless chaps.
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Tarantino pwns all STAR TREK loving shitheads.
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