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Wednesday Brings LOST’s
Two-Hour Fifth-Season Finale!!

I am – Hercules!!

Check out the preteen cast for tonight’s episode: * Emily Rae Argenti as young Kate * Rylee Fansler as young Juliet * Keegan Boos as young Sawyer * Tanner Maguire as young Tom Young Tom! I loved Hurley’s bluff last week when Dr. Chang asked if he served in the Korean War. I love that Hurley, since returning to the island, is no longer being portrayed as a tragic figure. If the Island and Jacob haven’t been talking to Ben, how did he know how to find and work the Frozen Donkey Wheel? Who is Jacob? Why is John Locke determined to see him die? What was Daniel Faraday really up to between 1974 and 1977? And if ABC’s remake of “V” goes to series (as it’s expected to), how will Elizabeth Mitchell star in it and “Lost” at the same time? If all the time travel is about to stop, as co-showrunner Carlton Cuse claims, how will Sawyer and Kate become Adam and Eve? ABC says of tonight’s two-hour fifth-season finale, titled “The Incident”:
Jack's decision to put a plan in action in order to set things right on the island is met with some strong resistance by those close to him, and Locke assigns Ben a difficult task. Guest starring are L. Scott Caldwell as Rose, Sam Anderson as Bernard, John Terry as Christian Shephard, Nestor Carbonell as Richard Alpert, Jeff Fahey as Frank Lapidus, Francois Chau as Dr. Pierre Chang, Patrick Fischler as Phil, Eric Lange as Radzinsky, Zuleikha Robinson as Ilana, Brad William Henke as Bram, Jon Gries as Roger Linus, Alice Evans as younger Eloise Hawking, Andrea Gabriel as Noor "Nadia" Abed Jaseem, Kevin Chapman as Mitch, Mark Pellegrino as man #1, Titus Welliver as man #2, Emily Rae Argenti as young Kate, Tanner Maguire as young Tom, George Gerdes as Mr. Springer, Agnes Kwak as Aunt Soo, Amy Stewart as mother, Rylee Fansler as young Juliet, Savannah Lathem as young Rachel, William Makozak as Captain Bird, Daniel James Kunkel as anesthesiologist, Sonya Masinovsky as Russian nurse, Keegan Boos as young Sawyer, Colby French as Uncle Doug, John Pete as prison clerk, Michael Trisler as father, Sally Davis as woman and Adam Bazzi as cab driver. Written by Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse and directed by Jack Bender.
9 p.m. Wednesday. ABC.
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  • May 13, 2009, 12:31 p.m. CST

    FIST!

    by TheTagger

    dammit

  • May 13, 2009, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Wehave to go back!

    by MachThree

    Can't wait for tonight. Bring it on, Darlton.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    talkback

    by TheTagger

    I hope this talkback lasts until next season's premiere.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    fuck!!!

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    yiou

  • May 13, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Where's the crew at??

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    come on over!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    jack me off

    by charlesbronsonLIVES

    this forthcoming episode makes me want to murder children because i want to see it so bad. and dexter's wife's ex-husband is a creepy prick.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    My name is Sayid Jarrah... and I am a torturer...

    by Mrhazard

    Best Lost line ever... And Sayid better not die tonight...

  • May 13, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    blow it Jack... blow it

    by Rex Havok

    Here’s hoping the Island goes all Alderaan tonight.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Mark Pellegrino as man #1

    by Dapper Swindler

    You'll see.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    SUCCESS!!!

    by Dhaemon

  • May 13, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YEAH!

    by Jor-El23

    SHIT YEAH! Season finale week is always the most bitter sweet time of the year. Your favorite shows are ending but they're usually going to do some crazy ass shit before saying goodbye for the summer, or even for the entire year.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Picture of Jacob

    by snowpuff

    http://bit.ly/2LZHIT

  • May 13, 2009, 12:38 p.m. CST

    And away we go...

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    Finale night. Lost bitches!

  • May 13, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Man #1

    by ElPaw

    is soooo Jacob. Man #2 is young Paolo.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Oh momma

    by MetiphisLabs

    This episode is gonna buttfuck me and never call back.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Aww, damnit with the spoilers!

    by D.Vader

    I try to not notice them but Herc just lays them all out in his red text!

  • May 13, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    LOST! Fucking eyeballs since 2004...

    by Cap'n Jack

  • May 13, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    What lies in the shadow of the statue???

    by Mrhazard

  • May 13, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Geronimo Jackson-Drive Shaft World Tour 2009

    by chetedawg

    Be ready BIATCHES.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    whatever happened to lostfan108?

    by charlesbronsonLIVES

    that guy used to ruin everything for me. i miss that cocksucker.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Wow, our new home for the next 8 months

    by rbrog77

    I like it. Could use curtains.<P> ;->

  • May 13, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Prediction

    by markh289

    As the writers mentioned a few weeks ago that they were inspired by "The Prisoner" I reckon that Jacob will turn out to be John Locke. Also didn't Jack's grandfather who was featured for about a minute in an episode a few weeks back call Kate "Freckles". Could Sawyer be Jack's grandfather?

  • May 13, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    oh my god

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    jack is his own father.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    Jack

    by ElPaw

    is his own mother. Hes a hemmy

  • May 13, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    DAMNIT!!

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...I ran out to get someo ribs and now look at me....im nothing...well except a man with ribs to eat.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Rose and Bernard!

    by Banky the Hack

    Finally we get to see what happened to them!

  • May 13, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    locke's killing of jacob

    by mrgreentheplant

    ew dot com has an interesting idea for why locke wants to kill jacob: out of mercy. jacob is an old man trapped alpert-style in existence and needs locke to put him out of his misery, hence his "help me" comment in the shack from a couple seasons ago. sounds plausible, right?

  • May 13, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    John Terry, the Chelsea footballer on Lost? Wow.

    by PennsyDeux

    ;)

  • May 13, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Wow markh289

    by Dapper Swindler

    "Also didn't Jack's grandfather who was featured for about a minute in an episode a few weeks back call Kate "Freckles". Could Sawyer be Jack's grandfather?" Let's just say I appreciate your "outside-the-box" thinking. Even if you seem to have left the box on the side of the highway, and flown to China with this one.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    a man with ribs

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    is a REAL man!

  • May 13, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    It's "Hermy"

    by Psynapse

    As in 'Hermaphrodite, a 'Hemi' is something ENTIRELY different.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    I KNOW WHO JACOB IS (don't read if you hate spoilers)

    by MrHyde

    it's that gentleman in the cabin! psych! by the way what's that fat tub of lard doing in his animation in the upper left hand website corner? i don't get the reference. it's just a waddling fat man in a cave to me.

  • May 13, 2009, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Titus Welliver

    by Jor-El23

    Of Deadwood and many many other TV shows...I could be wrong but is he the 3rd Deadwood actor to appear on the show? Also I'm guessing that he has a big role in Lost next season. He's not a huge actor, but he's also not the kind of actor you just get for some random role that could be played by an extra

  • May 13, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Ever notice?

    by Rex Havok

    Ever notice that the name "Jack" is derived from the name "John." In Hebrew, "Jacob" means "Supplanter." So perhaps, John Locke and Jack Shephard have a relationship they don't know about. Also, Jacob and the Island are too separate entities - with Jacob using the Island's power to stay alive. The Island has sent Locke to kill Jacob.

  • May 13, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    im just trying to follow the lead...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...of a milkshake having man...I learns from the best

  • May 13, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    okay-IVE BEEN HOLDING BACK

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    The spoiler is that halfway through the finale, LOST becomes animated.And, with joke by Seth mcFarlane.However, the real twist is that they are only airing commericals for KFC and Mexican coke. prepare for the mindfuck fellas!

  • May 13, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    okbutwhy.com

    by digital8

    Go there.

  • May 13, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    MrHyde - the animation is from "Mulholland Drive"

    by Executor

  • May 13, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    please kill of hurley

    by MrHyde

    raise the stakes. kill the fatman. where's stargate guy? THATS who i miss. remember his quote "you all like lost because you all love garbage and now nothing will taste as bittersweet to you as garbage. you love garbage because you see yourselves in it. garbage." tell me thats not the funniest thing ever. come on out, stargate guy! it's lost night!

  • May 13, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    dr.brian

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    i am fighting back tears my man.the "gato malo" is pleased with your compliment.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    I hope jacob...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...just ends up being a really large bottle of mexican coke with a wig on

  • May 13, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    MrHyde

    by DrDealGood

    Purple Rose of Cairo? It does look like he's walking off-screen...

  • May 13, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    dead hurley?

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    i don't buy it.I expect deaths, but I figured it'd be the new huys-like MILES,CHANG and JULIET,maybe even an old favorite or two.And,lindeloff has been saying that tonight will "end" the time-traveling , so THAT makes me excited.that, and knowing that I can march into KFC and order a "kernel reese" make me happy.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    mulholland drive was terrible

    by MrHyde

    except for the lesbians. terrible movie. now flame me for bringing down your precious david lynch down a peg.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:04 p.m. CST

    is it me?

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    or is Locke looking old as fuck? i mean, he was a fit older guy when the show started...now he's falling apart.he's got HUGE man-titties, and like a double chin.Terry is a great actor-but it's been bugging me the last 2 seasons

  • May 13, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    He looks like a guy...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...whose been sitting around eating ribs and watching lost.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    The best part about this episode

    by Dapper Swindler

    Is that I will finally have heard the end of the Jack is Jacob, Locke is Jacob theories.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    HOLY SHIT!

    by fain88

    Happy Lost Day, y'all. Just duckin' in to say 'howdy' as I wanna' be fresh as a daisy spoiler-wise for the craziness tonight.<br> <br> And yes, Mr. O'Quinn's looking a liittle rough. But John Locke could still kick all of our asses at once.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST

    1st Talk Back to come up this early this season

    by Scott_Hathaway

    And I still have 7 hours til it comes on

  • May 13, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    We unfortunate UK viewers

    by kwisatzhaderach

    have to wait until Sunday...

  • May 13, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    H-Bomb

    by DrDealGood

    So for the thousandth time, everyone, in unison... if you show a gun in act 1....

  • May 13, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    mr.quinn

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    eats ribs with his Emmy as a fork, and dips his K.F.C. in....oh yeah...you guessed it...MEXICAN FUCKING COCA-COLA!

  • May 13, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    The H Bomb is The Incident

    by Jor-El23

    Mark my words

  • May 13, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    LOST - FUCKING MINDS SINCE 2004

    by turketron_2

    EYEBALLS TOO

  • May 13, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST

    No new spoilers posted on the internet

    by Dapper Swindler

    I checked. Couldn't resist. Will we actually make it to the episode this year without having it spoiled?

  • May 13, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    mulholland drive

    by enderandrew

    The first hour is very slow and randomly sets up tons of different characters because it was supposed to be a pilot episode for a new "Twin Peaks" type show. The studio didn't pick it up, and then it was sloppily turned into a two-hour movie. Having watched it a few times, I think I get it, and I certainly love the hot lesbian action, but it does fail as a movie. Gia however features even more hot lesbian sex with Juliet, and is a good movie.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Man fain where have you been...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ..i dont think i saw you even once in last weeks talkback. I was waiting for you to douse us in your wisdom.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Jor-El23

    by DrDealGood

    Maybe the H Bomb goes off in the Hatch area, but is stuck in a 108 minute time loop of detonation, which would make the H Bomb become The Incident. Rather than the previous setup of The Incident being the "exotic material" purging energy?

  • May 13, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Jacob is (spoilers)

    by TheMcflyFarm

    a Rose-Bernard hybrid monster. I shit you not!

  • May 13, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    JACOB IS...

    by MrHyde

    harry knowles. he saw wolverine and is trapped in a hellish dimension of mediocrity that exists between time and space. locke is going to mercy kill him.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    THERE WILL BE SLUSHO

    by turketron_2

    It's what lies in the shadow of the statue.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Last Lost Talk Back

    by Scott_Hathaway

    Will there be a Lost Talk back up for when people come in to work tomorrow with their minds blown and we can chat about it?

  • May 13, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Jor-El23

    by Johnny Smith

    Welliver is way past the third Deadwood cast member to show up on Lost. William Sanderson, Kim Dickens, Robin Weigert, Paula Malcolmson, and Zack Ward have all popped up, and I believe at least two of the writers are the same.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    however the twist is

    by MrHyde

    that locke goes on to write a book about his experiences and it is turned into the movie. thinking he's dead, locke doesn't invite harry to screen the movie. harry's eyes open and he swears petty revenge upon locke by not reviewing his film. slam cut to black. LOST.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    Locke killing Jacob

    by enderandrew

    Jacob did say "help me". I think Locke is putting him out of his misery. I also think that Jacob is a figure head. Since the leader has to take orders from Jacob, whoever controls Jacob is really in charge, and I think that person is one Richard Alpert. I wonder if it goes something like this. Richard was on the Black Rock when it crashed, but he wasn't the captain. Jacob was. Richard imprisoned Jacob and took control of the island.<p>The only thing I don't get, is if the island wants Jacob dead, then why is the island keeping Richard young and healthy? And why is Jacob hardly there? Couldn't the island just let him die?<p>And my money is on Sayid dying. I think his story is over. I think Locke, Kate, Sawyer, Jack and Hurley all have to live to the series finale. I think Jin and Sun are only still around to be reunited. I think Sayid and Juliet are both expendable at this point. I also think it will make for good drama if Juliet dies not knowing or believing if Sawyer loved her, and the awkward situation that would ensue with a now single Kate and Sawyer.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    I remember when Guy Who Got a Headache got pissed

    by turketron_2

    Because a bunch of us we were posting up all kinds of theories about the connection between the Swan station and the H-Bomb after the episode Jughead. Whether it is a part of the incident or not after tonight, it's good to know that it wasn't a dropped plotline. 3 HOURS OF LOST TONIGHT (first a recap ep). Be sure to wear a condom before you lock eyes with your TV from across the room.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    NOT READING SHIT

    by billypilgrimisunstuck

    Fuck you spoilers. Fuck you.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST

    turketron_2

    by Cap'n Jack

    thanks for re-posting my comment for whatever reason...

  • May 13, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    4 8 15 16 23 42

    by enderandrew

    It is a code for the chemical formula for Red Matter. Red Matter made the Cloverfield monster. Rumbaldi had the huge ball of it. And since a tiny drop of it created this singularity that sent Spock 130 years in the past, the huge ball of Red Matter going up at the end of Star Trek creates a singularity going back to 1977. That singularity creates the incident, and is also responsible for Elvis going into the future with aliens in 1977. Search your feelings Skywalker, you know it to be true.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Rose becomes jack's father in the past

    by LeeMajors

    and then turns into Locke, and then Kate goes back in time to become Rose's(Jack's) mother. Whooosh. LOST.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Jacob is played by...

    by enderandrew

    Keri Russell. Greg Gunberg shows up as zombie pilot, and kills her.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    didnt they

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    say that young tom (GAY TOM!)is kate's old doctor/boyfriend-whome she kissed!!if this is true...it better be good.Cuz,frankly-i'm not a bit tom fan.He's a crappy character.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    What really happens?

    by enderandrew

    The incident is an EMP as far as we know. EMPs are also side-effects of nukes. But I can't imagine them really explaining a nuke going off. And wouldn't that kill all the Others? I really am curious how they plan to resolve this nuke issue. I also assume by the end of the finale that the 1977 and 2007 crews are back together. My guess is the X-factor is Desmond coming back to the island.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Tom Bodett

    by enderandrew

    He leaves the light on in the hatch.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Seriously?

    by Kessler

    Twitter? I don't think so. I could care less what Aston Kutcher is doing in the bathroom. And exactly how does it enhance my life if I read Oprah's twitter comment before she says it on the air?

  • May 13, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Lost Cake

    by enderandrew

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhnJ2-u3WtY&feature=related

  • May 13, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    i bet

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    the nuke goes off....but in 1407.thats the twist.the bomb blasts the black freighter out of the ocean and onto the island.A young Richard Alpert (along with captain Horatio Magellan Crunch!) are the first inhabitants of the island.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Do you know what lies in the shadow of the statue???

    by Mrhazard

  • May 13, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Though it is possible for a "hermy"...

    by Kid Z

    ... to own a "hemi". But Jettas are probably more their style.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    idrinkyourmilkshake

    by DrDealGood

    should we prepare for yet another round of "Who Will Kate Make Out With This Week?"

  • May 13, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    milkshake, what happened up there??

    by iDrinkYourMexicanCoke

  • May 13, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Hermy

    by enderandrew

    I once gave a hummer to a hermy in a hemi. Or not.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    And I hope Hurley doesnt die tonight...

    by Mrhazard

    Cause then they couldnt do the Hurley and Miles spinoff show where they talk about time travel, talking to dead guys, and the Empire Strikes Back script...

  • May 13, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Kate makes out with people

    by enderandrew

    She only seems to do it as a distraction. I never really get the impression that she has a meaningful emotional connection with anyone.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    That would be awesome

    by enderandrew

    Rosencrantz and Gildersten are dead applied to Empire Strikes Back with Miles and Hurley as time traveling dead guys in a galaxy far, far away.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Kate had a meaningful emotional connection with her dad

    by iDrinkYourMexicanCoke

    you might say it was a passionately burning emotional relationship.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    So are we all expecting the H-bomb...

    by jones1899

    To go off around 9:58 CST? That would sooo blow.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Series Finale

    by Kessler

  • May 13, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    I want all of JJ Abrams work to be interconnected

    by Jor-El23

    I want it so badly I can taste it...even Star Trek! But I'd be fine if Cloverfield, Alias, Lost and Fringe were all connected.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    Series Finale

    by Kessler

    (damn return button) is one year away. You know half will think its the greatest thing since cheese kurds while the other half will feel like they've just wasted 6 years of their lives.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    The best twist

    by enderandrew

    Is that the bomb did already go off within the existing timeline of the show in a manner that was shown to us previously, except we didn't realize it, such as the sky turning purple. The bomb goes off, and in the very instant that it begins to chip away at the island, it creates an "incident" type of uncontrolled release of the energy below the island. Said incident moves the remainder of the nuclear blast to another time and place.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Knowing ZERO about science

    by Jor-El23

    What if there's a force on the island that is powerful enough to negate the radiation of an h-bomb, while still causing the electromagnetic damage?

  • May 13, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    UK has to wait sunday. I don't...

    by Mr Walter

    I'm from London I'll get up in the morning and watch finale. Fuck Sky.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Happy Happy Lost Lost!!!!

    by redfishbluefish

    Happy Happy Lost Lost!!!! Happy Happy Lost Lost!!!! <p>lostlostlostlostlostlostlostlostlostlostlostlostlostlostlostlostlostlostlostlostlost <p> :):):):):)!!!!!!<p> see you after the show, my fellow Losties! It's gonna be a fun ride!

  • May 13, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    The statue was built so that people could find the island

    by Dapper Swindler

    It was later torn down by the Others for the opposite reason - so people wouldn't come to the island.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    i like it

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    what if the bomb is sent back in time?

  • May 13, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    the statue

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    represents how OLD the island is.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Im going to bonk myself on the head...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ....and sleep for exactly 6 hours. Here we GO...OUCH!!! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........

  • May 13, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Jor-El23

    by enderandrew

    They are all interconnected via Red Matter. Remember the red ball in Alias? It is also responsible for the Cloverfield monster showing up.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:51 p.m. CST

    milkshake thats what Ive been sayin...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...I totally think that too. The buildup will be huge and right as its about to explode the bomb will get sent back in time destroying a bunch of stuff mainly the statue.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Jor-El23

    by NormanOsborne

    The 4-toed statue is Milo Rambaldi.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    I'm waiting till Sunday

    by theGoldbergV

    Lost in HD is much better than Lost on a computer screen with shitty resolution and the volume turned up so loud as to drown out the humming of my processor. But anyway, enjoy the finale you lucky yank bastards. <p><p> Still think Hurley's gonna die. And whatever is in Ilana's carate will be something small. You watch.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    that could be WHY

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    there are "ruins"...becuase the bomb "ruined" them.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    markh289

    by whitty

    You wrote: "Jacob will turn out to be John Locke."<br /><br /> That would seem unlikely, given that the casting of a new actor for Jacob was widely publicized a couple of months ago.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Also..I still totally think...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...that Smokie is like Hal 9000 in that jacob tried to shut him down at some point and out of self preservation he banished Jacob to some strange time space...well time not space...I mean space time....actually I have no idea.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Will we get an answer as to

    by theGoldbergV

    WHY the Island started skipping in the 1st place? Thats what I want to know.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Didn't some producer or writer or whatever

    by Jor-El23

    Say that Jacob was someone we'd never met before?

  • May 13, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Hmm... the bomb wiped out that civilization?

    by Dapper Swindler

    That would explain what happened to them. Also, it would explain why there aren't more ruins. I always thought it was strange that they could build a statue so big but have so few ruins on the island.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    I think the island started skipping...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...because it was trying to lose some weight...ZINGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST

    dr.brianO

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    your very cool,BUT they widely panned the idea that SMOKIE is a cloud of 'nanobots"...which i think si a cool idea

  • May 13, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    enderandrew - Kate/Sawyer/Juliet

    by MrCleanAZ

    I like your idea of Juliet dieing without knowing if Sawyer really loved her. But how about this...<br><br>Kate is nearly killed and Sawyer saves her at the last possible second. Kate hugs Sawyer and tries to kiss him in thanks when Juliet comes around the corner and sees them. Then Juliet is shot and killed before anyone can explain. boom - LOST.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    idrinkyourmilkshake

    by whitty

    No, they never said that. Not the same guy.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Here´s hoping Sayid dies

    by PedroM

    And not Hurley. <br/> This is the last season finale, after that there´s no more. <br/> Tonight will be full of revelations and etc, i would be pissed off if theres more twists and what not.

  • May 13, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    well i'm not saying it has to be nano bots...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...but using the same motivation that HAL had when someone tried to "kill it"

  • May 13, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    It depends what links you go on

    by Mr Walter

    Most links I check for come in HD quality. I can't avoid the internet for three more days. Lost is the only show I have to see as soon as it's on. I need my fix.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    DR.BRIAN...

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    kudos for 2001 reference-my fave fucking film

  • May 13, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    MrCleanAZ

    by enderandrew

    I really like that. Especially if Jack is somehow inadvertently responsible, causing a big cluster-fuck. There is a setup we've had this season with very little follow-up.<p>There is a group that knows about the island. They got back to the island. And they are hostile. They are in 2007 and haven't been touched upon in several episodes. Who says they don't bring Sun, Ben, Locke, etc. back to 1977 to stop the H-bomb?

  • May 13, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST

    TOM!!!

    by Henry Fool

    Tom was MC Gainey's character, if I remember correctly. He was shot by Sawyer in the season three finale. But he later appeared in Michael's season four flashback, which was cool. I liked how they implied he was gay, through the body language he had with his male friend during his scene with Michael.<br /> <br /> MC Gainey? Gay? Who would've thought? He's the type of guy you imagine as the guest star of the "Deliverance" remake, which we must now all pray never happens.<br /> <br /> "Okay, Mr. Gainey, I'll squeal! Just let me keep my pants up!"

  • May 13, 2009, 2:08 p.m. CST

    What Lies in the Shadow of the Statue?

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    And does it smell like carrots?

  • May 13, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    I hope those preview vids are all hour 1.

    by Fawst

    Cuz I want any fluff buildup that has to be done out of the way ASAP, stat! Seriously, leave the fluff to the first hour, then blow us the fuck away in the second hour. WE NEED ANSWERS, PEOPLE. Not everything, but something amazing had best be explained tonight. As much as I want an answer a week next season, I still want some major payoff tonight. Two hours of amazing Lost. Please. And thank you.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Locke

    by enderandrew

    Locke does not become Jacob. He becomes Mr. Clean.<p>In all seriousness, Locke hasn't been seen on screen at the same time as smokezilla, and suddenly Locke just "knows" things. Is he smokezilla now, or is that a red herring?

  • May 13, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Hugo bites the dust!

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    A bad case of dharma food poisoning.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Henry Fool

    by Cap'n Jack

    The TOM they are referring to is Kate's childhood boyfriend, not the bearded guy. two different characters.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Claire

    by Mr Walter

    she has to be back tonight.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    We better get a good explantion for why they're in 1977

    by Jor-El23

    Other than, to cause "The Incident"...I feel like that would be a real cop-out even though I think that's what is going to happen

  • May 13, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST

    enderandrew

    by MrCleanAZ

    I agree and hope they show more of the Ajira - 'What lies in the shadow of the statue?' people.<br><br>But since the producers have said no more time travel after tonight I'm thinking everyone is going to go to 2007 (or maybe 2009) - unless of course they die.<br><br>I think someone else mentioned this in last weeks talkback... that when Richard said he saw the 1977 losties die he might have just thought they died. In that when the incident occurs they all disappear and Richard assumes they've all been killed - vaporized.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    HAL´s motivations

    by PedroM

    What are they, humans trying to jeopardize the mission?

  • May 13, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    re: Cap'n Jack

    by turketron_2

    When did I repost your comment? *MINDS*

  • May 13, 2009, 2:18 p.m. CST

    my biggest gripe...

    by emeraldboy

    is why did is why did sky one and rte 2 have to put lost on the same day at the same time.sunday. 24 season 7 is monday night at 12pm. ridiculous.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:18 p.m. CST

    enderandrew

    by DrDealGood

    I've thought about this, and while it doesn't quite sit right, a possible explanation is that since being returned to the island as a corpse, the smoke monster has been manifesting itself as John Locke. Running with this even further, we can maybe say that Christian Shepherd is smokie, Libby may have been smokie, and could even be Claire. We know the smoke monster can do things like this, because we've seen it be Eko's brother, and Ben's daughter Alex. But this all still seems a little too... easy? Maybe I just want Locke to be really resurrected from the dead.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST

    sticking with my theory as Jacob as...

    by underhill

    ...Aaron until proven wrong. sorry to be the English major dork but really how cool (with admitted flaws) when viewing the series as a whole

  • May 13, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Rose and Bernard/Adam and Eve

    by dreamwriter1888

    Rose and Bernard are Adam and Eve. WHOA! Just blew my own mind...

  • May 13, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST

    judging from that clip, Sayid is dead.

    by 35MinutesAgo

    he put on Horace's jumper.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Speaking of food... what is your Lost season finale meal?

    by turketron_2

    Fellow Lost finale viewers, what will be your Lost Meal tonight?<p> Mine will be quite sad... a simple Tony's Supreme pizza, dressed up with crushed red pepper and Tabasco sauce, and a Cheerwine soda to wash it down... and maybe a few beers.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAALT!!!!!!!

    by jaysin420

  • May 13, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Juliette's Cans & Speculation

    by spankmyassyoudirtywhore

    There will be ample shots of her bending over in that loose fitting "Red" shirt. If she "dies" tonight, I will be sad. But then again, there is always Gia. *Spoiler guess* Ben stabs Locke.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST

    and by the way...

    by underhill

    have we SEEN a Shepard descendant in the cabin yet (other than the obvious visitors). Eye color be damned, I'm gonna push this one...

  • May 13, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST

    turketron_2

    by DrDealGood

    little ceasars' 5 dollar large pepperoni... and crazy bread, FTW.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:24 p.m. CST

    DrDealGood

    by enderandrew

    I thought Dalrton said on the podcast that we say Smokie several times in season 1 without knowing we were looking at season 1. I also though the Eko death scene, and this season's scene with Ben made it perfectly clear that Smokie likes to appear as dead people, specifically dead relatives. I think Christian Shephard is certainly Smokie. I'm not sure about Locke.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Aside from what we'll learn this episode...

    by turketron_2

    And aside from learning that apparently some of the 815 survivors joined up with it in the 70's, did we learn ANYTHING of importance about the Dharma Initiative and what they were up to that we didn't know before this season?

  • May 13, 2009, 2:25 p.m. CST

    Lo Mein

    by enderandrew

    I haven't had Chinese in a while, and I am really in the mood for some good beef lo mein.

  • The end is near, in a matter of hours we'll all know the outcome of season 5 and will be in off-season limbo. I've got the habitual 'Lost Reefer' pre-rolled and stashed just incase the nightmare scenario of me running out of the good stuff before the episode airs comes to pass. Personally I don't think we'll be even nearly content with the content of tonight's finale, as there is still a full season left for the writers to reveal their hand and you know that there's gonna be at least, without exaggeration, 15 brazillion new mysteries posed tonight, but I am counting on seeing both the elusive Jacob McGhosty and Anubis O' Statuesy in the episodes (I don't read spoilers by the way). As I am the wrong side of the Atlantic Ocean it will be at least 3.30am my time before I see it, so I will be avoiding this place like a weekend in a mexican abbatoir until then. Enjoy and see you on the otherside!

  • May 13, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    ..and I am a 6 year old? (full title of my previous subject)

    by stankratz

    Holy shite i'm posting on an AICN talkbalk, Goddamn you Lost!

  • May 13, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    turketron_2

    by enderandrew

    We learned that most of them are clueless stiffs working jobs, but Chang is aware of some massive power source that he is trying tap into, and that for some reason they think the Swan is so valuable, they'd risk violating the treaty for it.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    as much as I admire EM's can's

    by underhill

    still think Ben had the fear of (god, smokey, whatever)put in him by his daughter, unless I'm wrong, Ben's gonna be a good boy until a very, very pivotal moment (probably not season 5(

  • May 13, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Locke - Dead, Alive, or Something Else?

    by MrCleanAZ

    Locke has been acting odd since he returned. he's some reasons he may fall into one of these categories...<br><br>Dead: Because Bean said Dead is Dead. He was in a funeral home with no family members, so they probably embalmed him.<br><br>Alive: The island did heal John three times before - 1) after crashing on the island 2) After Locke allowed Boone to die he regained the use of his legs and 3) After Ben shot him in the chest and left him for dead in the Dharma pit. If the island resurrected him it may have given him additional knowledge as well.<br><br>Something Else: Locke could be Smokey or some another island incarnation. This kinda makes sense since he seems to know much more about everything now.<br><br>Thoughts?

  • May 13, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    furthermore

    by 35MinutesAgo

    i'm guessing ben wanted locke to make him the one that kills jacob for some reason, and that locke just got conned AGAIN. <p> also, you can't change the past, even though faraday said you theoretically could. this is proved by faraday's death at his mother's hands, which was always what would've happened. that means the detonation of the nuke was the "incident" all along, not an accidental tapping of the energy pocket blahdeeblah. <p> or i don't know, some shit like that.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Could be PedroM...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...what the "mission" is who knows. Maybe Smokie felt that Jacob no longer had the islands best interest in mind so he trapped him. Obviously he felt other people, most recently locke, clearly has the islands best interests in mind.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:32 p.m. CST

    I predict!

    by ImYerHuckleberry

    The end of the universe tonight.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    154th!

    by BillboeFett

    YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Because Christmas has been De-Mystified. LOST hasn't

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    Amazing that we have this, if you ask me

  • May 13, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    FRINGE ROCKED LAST NIGHT!!!!!!!

    by BillboeFett

    You guys all need to watch season 1 during LOST's hiatus to catch up. They knocked it out of the park

  • May 13, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, and Radzinski is SOOOO dead...

    by Mrhazard

    Here's hoping Sayid snaps his neck like a twig...

  • May 13, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST

    @turketron_2

    by bgeek

    Chicken tacos al pastor washed down with a Modello especial.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Jack has a Buh? No, not a buh, a bomb!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • May 13, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST

    It is On

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    I am gonna get rocked tonight at the meetup. So, dunno if I will be on here till the weekend pals!

  • May 13, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST

    I gotta cop a big bag of that smoke monster...

    by Mrhazard

    Pass the Dharma ranch...

  • May 13, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Fringe

    by enderandrew

    I watched the first five episodes, which were decent, but a bit predictable. I also really didn't care for Anna Torv, or any of the characters. But the concept of primetime sci-fi in the vein of X-Files really appeals to me. I'm going to give that show another shot.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    THE LOST SUPPER: BEER AND TWIZZLERS

    by 35MinutesAgo

    yeah, you like that? 'the lost supper'? i made it up just now.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    New Lost Spin off - Smokey and the Bandit

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Smokey and Sawyer go on a cross country race.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Radzinsky shoots himself in the Swan Hatch

    by billypilgrimisunstuck

    Now Phil, on the other hand, is a dead man. Goddamn you Jimmy Barret. You woman hitting douchebag.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Radzinsky Can't Die

    by Jor-El23

    He has to shoot himself in the head in the hatch in a few years. Having met Radzinsky I'm starting to wonder 2 things 1.) What was he doing living in the hatch with Kelvin? Why was he drawing a map on the door when he was such an important part of Dharma 2.) How did Kevlin not kill Radzinsky himself, because the guy is such an insufferable douchebag?

  • May 13, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Dammit...

    by Hugh G Rekshun

    ...I'm going to see Trek again tonight. Guess I'll have to watch LOST tomorrow night.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST

    by rosasaks

    They ought to kill off Ilana and Bram the way they did Artz. "Sorry guys, you take yourselves way too seriously and the Island only cares about Skate. What was that about a statue?"

  • May 13, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST

    I predict...

    by Cap'n Jack

    Jack walks through a door into a blinding white light, laid out before him is a desert. The apothesis of ALL deserts. After adjusting the worn sandalwood grips of his 'big guns'...he heads off on the trail of the man in black.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    maybe it wasn't really Radzinski in the hatch...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...i mean they never actually showed us that he killed himself. That might have been a bowl of spaghetti O's that Kelvin was eating and he got scared and threw them up into the air.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Just Saw Star Trek!

    by RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    It was fucking awesome, people. I'm deeming this "JJ Day" for me. I watched Fringe at midnight, watched Star Trek this afternoon, and season finale tonight! Best. Day. Ever. Even though I know JJ isn't so invovled in LOST anymore, its still his baby, so its still JJ Day. Happy Season Finale Day Everyone!

  • May 13, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Jack, Kate, and Hugo die tonight...

    by Mrhazard

    Eyeliner man said himself...

  • May 13, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    I bet Jack's Dad shows up just as Jack is about

    by lockesbrokenleg

    to detonate the bomb.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Damn, I was really hoping Radzinski would get it tonight...

    by Mrhazard

  • May 13, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Cap'n Jack

    by MrCleanAZ

    Nice Dark Tower reference!<br><br>I hope Lost doesn't return to the beginning in the series finale.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Don't get me wrong, I want to see Radzinsky die

    by Jor-El23

    And Phil...they're the douchiest characters in the history of the show and definitely up there with other notable TV douchebags. I actually hate that actor who plays Phil, he always plays a sniveling, douchy, red tape-loving bureaucrat.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    Radzinsky

    by bramblerose

    It's always been my theory that Kelvin is probably the one that painted the ceiling with Radzinky's brain matter, he just never told the story that way.

  • May 13, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Jack cant detonate the bomb...

    by Mrhazard

    Cause that never happened before, right???

  • May 13, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    DINNER?

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    A BOWL(yeah...you know it baby)...and a nice iced coffee.and KUDOS to whomeversaid 'tacos al pastor", cuz that makes you a cool motherfucker!

  • May 13, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Star Trek was good, not great...

    by Cap'n Jack

    It would appeal more to non star trek fans I think...

  • May 13, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    A bowl of what milkshake...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...please let it be what I hope it is...green and fluffy with the sweet smell of THC...

  • May 13, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    STAR TREK

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    was pretty kickass-very very fun movie.Everything was done very weel, from the badguy's huiances ( he wasnt lame o over the top, and was very polite-which i loved), the casting-(this is WHERE they shine-the casting was dead-on)..and th story just keeps moving, with hardly a break or a boring patch.JJ outdid himself

  • May 13, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    Okay, can Phil die at least...

    by Mrhazard

    He's second in command douchebag...

  • May 13, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    by wyvern

    Kate won't die because they still have the whole issue of why babies can't be born on the island to deal with.Since we know shes knocked up with Jacks baby.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Will we get a young child Radzinski flashback

    by skimn

    with him magni-glass frying ants and pulling the wings off flies?<p>Question. I never watched Alias. Was JJ as obsessed with time-travel-parallel-worlds in that show as he is with Lost, Fringe and Star Trek??

  • May 13, 2009, 3:01 p.m. CST

    Ummmm....PAGING DR.BRIANO

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    you got it friendo!and I MEANT bowl(s)-as in plural,as in multiple bowlage going down! and sorry for my last post-HOBOCODE would have a heart attack is he was here!

  • May 13, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    by wyvern

    Cap"n Jack who would be the man in black?Ben or Locke?

  • May 13, 2009, 3:04 p.m. CST

    RE: 35MinutesAgo, I approve of "THE LOST SUPPER"

    by turketron_2

    BRAVO TO YOU SIR!<p>

  • May 13, 2009, 3:05 p.m. CST

    dark tower references are cool, but

    by turketron_2

    I don't think anyone on this show has forgotten the face of their father... and all the best cowboys have daddy issues.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    ST- The casting WAS great...

    by Cap'n Jack

    but the story was dumb.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Alias

    by enderandrew

    I watched the first 3 and half seasons. I don't believe they did time travel or parallel worlds, but there was definitely a supernatural vibe to what was otherwise Mission Impossible. From what I understand, ABC fought him on the supernatural angles the whole way.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    by wyvern

    I'd rather the show end starting over then have the hand of god come in and set jughead off.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    hurley=radzinsky

    by thisjediislost

    we've never seen radzinsky inside the hatch with Kelvin. so supposed a different person had taken radzinsky's name and was punching the numbers etc until they blew their head off year's later. crazy enough that that person was Hurley? Might explain his fear of the numbers etc etc...that is, if he doesn't die tonight...

  • May 13, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Jacob...

    by Cornelius_Gould_Stuyvesant

    ...is clearly Vincent.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Didn't mean to spark this debate...

    by RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    But I agree that Star Trek probably appealed more to non-fans, because I have never been into Star Trek, and I really loved it. Also, I just want to throw in that I fucking hate Transformers for how unbelievably stupid it is, and as its written by the same guys, I feel impressed that the story was, for the most part, very smart and very, very on-top of itself and what it was doing. It had the perfect tone, and the casting...my goodness, those people are fun. Uhura..my god. And Chris Pine was excellent. I thought the story was an incredibly fun sci-fi narrative, that allowed them to break rules and start a new franchise without pissing off super-nerd fanboys in probably the smartest way I've ever seen done. Nero was just an excellent plot device, no argument. I just think its THE perfect example of a what great summer flick should be, as compared to what I consider the worst example, Transformers. Its actually ironic theyre written by the same duo.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    I heard something cool. Alpert and Jacob are brothers

    by lockesbrokenleg

    what do you think?

  • May 13, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Hurley must not die

    by PedroM

    He´s linked to the island, the island will not let that happen.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    tonight... Jack becomes THE TRASHCAN MAN!!!

    by turketron_2

    His behavior in the preview for tonight looked pretty wild, to say the least. Trying not to spoil anything but those who have seen it know what I'm talking about. Could have been taken out of context, like they always do with the trailers though.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Alpert and Jacob

    by enderandrew

    I think they both come from the Black Rock. I think when Alpert starts to age eventually, he will become the most interesting man alive. Stay thirsty my friends.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Greetings!

    by hot_ham_water_fan

    Just wanted to stop by and say I am more excited to watch Lost than to get married on Saturday. Maybe, not sure actually. In the event that my stupid commitment tonight doesn't allow me to get home by 8, can anyone direct me to umm, somewhere other than ABC.com to watch it?

  • May 13, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Alpert/Jacob Brothers?

    by RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    I don't know about that. I would just say what would possibly lead to that assumption? There definitely having been hintings or anything. I really, truly feel like I have no idea what is going to happen tonight. We still don't know if they are breaking the timeline or creating it at this point, and I think tonight will help decide that. The big question is can they change things? Since we still don't really know the answer one or another yet, there is really no way to know what the fuck is going to happen. I love it.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    thisjediislost

    by bramblerose

    I like your theory only because I want to see someone off Radzinsky NOW! Don't want Hurley to die though.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Losers... lost is for kids

    by dioxholster

    adults stopped watching after it stopped making any sense and not in a good way, more like "we dont know what we are doing" way.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    JJ's parallel universes

    by thisjediislost

    would be even better if he could create one where freckles bauer, juliet, kate and anna torv all had their clothes ripped off and taken by the Cloverfield monster.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    RA TIMEPIMP

    by Cornelius_Gould_Stuyvesant

    I couldnt agree more...Never been TOO into star trek but really dug the movie...(not to say im completely opposed to any trek pre-abrams)...and as for the Transformers, I didnt like the first movie, but I have to admit that the trailer that played before Trek for Transformers 2 looked pretty good. Popcorn Good, but watchable.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Speaking of Hurley

    by enderandrew

    I was a little disappointed that when he was writing Empire Strikes Back, he didn't know what a bowcaster was.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    somehow, Charlotte made it onto Maxim's "Hot 100 Girls" list

    by turketron_2

    I wouldn't call her unattractive, but SERIOUSLY? That's a mystery bigger than anything on LOST.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    I mean, the actress who plays her

    by turketron_2

    And this is something I learned from the radio...

  • May 13, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by enderandrew

    Lost is the most complex and intelligent show I've ever seen on TV. You're either an idiot or a troll. Either way, your opinions are irrelevant.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST

    by PedroM

    Hurley didnt know how to spell it, not what it was!

  • May 13, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST

    LOST is for the X Generation middle life crisis audience

    by dioxholster

    are you depressed? u must be coz u are watchin lost like a loser. stargate is for the Y generation, the generation that understands the world better.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:25 p.m. CST

    turketron_2

    by Cornelius_Gould_Stuyvesant

    Really? Her? wow...I always thought she looked like the little boy that Aragorn teaches how to use a sword in Helms Deep in The Two Towers.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    I have a serious troll allergy

    by bramblerose

    so I'll be checking back in later.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    Damn, HERC

    by decypher44

    Was expecting at least ONE inviso-text spoiler!

  • May 13, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    LOST Babies !

    by Squashua

    Jacob is Nanny.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Charlotte top 100?

    by wyvern

    I did a quick google pic search to see if I had missed some great pics of her and no there was nothing but a couple of airbrushed pics that looked even remotely worthy of that listing

  • May 13, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    The Submarine

    by enderandrew

    The submarine is sinking, and they need to get back to the island. Juliet says "if only I had a motor-boat!"<p>Sawyer says, "well, if you insist!"

  • May 13, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Rescue Dawn

    by enderandrew

    I finally got around to watching Rescue Dawn last week (which has two Losties in it) and Faraday was insanely skinny in that movie. He was Machinist skinny. He made Kate Moss look fat.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Yeah Cornelius_Gould_Stuyvesant, her!

    by turketron_2

    I can't believe it either and I'll have to check it out for myself when I get home (supposedly it's on their webpage). Apparently Charlotte is there, but none of the other Lost girls. Not sure what her rank is. Those lists are bogus anyway, but still... the fact that Charlotte is on there at all puzzles me, even though I find her somewhat attractive (hell, it's hard for me to find just about any girl who isn't morbidly obese or extremely old not somewhat attractive).<p><p> Whatever.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    With this be the night....

    by webbsu4

    That we finally get the shower scene with Kate and her speeders, Juliet with her sloppers and Sun with her tweeners all sudsy????

  • May 13, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Yes, dioxholster, and the rest of us "children"...

    by Lenny Nero

    ...stuck around and saw that it did make sense, and that haters like you weren't worthy of the show in the first place.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    So, there's one season of LOST left, after tonight.

    by jimmy rabbitte

    That would make tonight's episode the finale, of the *penultimate* season.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    God loves you as He loved Jacob...

    by Mrhazard

  • May 13, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    And Lost attracts a younger audience than Stargate.

    by Lenny Nero

    So great job with that swipe about generation gaps.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Farraday in Rescue Dawn

    by enderandrew

    http://www.visualhollywood.com/movies/rescue-dawn/pics/Slide8.JPG

  • May 13, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Funny fake spoilers

    by Dr. Ironfist

    A message from the future, check this out: http://www.chumpscore.com/blog/2009/5/13/bucket-brigade-lost-finale-tonight.html

  • May 13, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Fake spoilers link

    by Dr. Ironfist

    Just go to www.chumpscore.com The fate of Darlton is revealed...

  • May 13, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    by Cornelius_Gould_Stuyvesant

    Tru, Im 21 and I think lost is about the best thing on T.V. Stargate can gargle my balls.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:46 p.m. CST

    by Cornelius_Gould_Stuyvesant

    *True

  • May 13, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    a few hints/spoilers

    by captain_kirk

    First, Jack will be successful in detonating a bomb that changes the timeline, promising that Vulcan will in fact explode, killing all 6 billion inhabitants. Second, has anyone ever noticed that the word SLOT is an anagram for LOST? Also, using basic numerology, the letter L = 12, the letter O = 15, S = 19, and T = 20. And everyone knows was 12 + 15 + 19 + 20 is, right> Yup, 66. 6 + 6 = 12, and 1 + 2 = 3. That means that we should all just shut up and stop masturbating at work to Lost TB postings.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Cornelius_Gould_Stuyvesant

    by dioxholster

    shouldnt you be like having sex with Harry?

  • May 13, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Rebecca Mader - #98. No Kate, Juliette, Sun,

    by turketron_2

    Or MILF Eloise Hawking to be found. The pic of Rebecca that Maxim has on their webpage for her is kind of hot though... But how can you overlook Juliette!? Bad Maxim... BAD!<p> Oh yeah, don't feed the dickholdertroll...

  • May 13, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    JACOB HAS TO BE LOCKE

    by 35MinutesAgo

    alex told ben to do two things... <br>A) stop fucking killing locke... <br>and B) do everything locke says... <p>now, if locke orders ben to kill jacob, and jacob is actually locke, then the paradox that ensues will rip a hole in the time-space continuum that sucks everybody in the present back to 1977, just in time for jack to blow every fucking person on the island into at least 700 billion trillion pieces, except for ben, who uses the frozen donkey wheel to teleport himself into outer space just in the nick of time. <p>however, the unforeseen result of the explosion is that the entire planet collapses in on itself, creating a black hole into which the u.s.s. enterprise is sucked, and when they come out of it 129 years in the future, ben manages to get himself aboard, kills kirk, takes control of the ship, and goes on an interstellar hunt for widmore, who by that time owns and controls approximately 45% of space and matter in the universe. i haven't breathed in the last twelve minutes.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    First Time Talkbacker

    by TripleChimp

    I love LOST... can't wait for the finale. Whats with all the Mexican Coke references?

  • May 13, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Damn Jeremy Davies...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...would make an awesome jesus

  • May 13, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    So in the finale do we finally get to see....

    by nopix

    The Ajira people shooting at Sawyer and everybody while they are in the canoe?

  • May 13, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Juliet is gonna die tonight

    by drturing

    Just watch and see. I promise you.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Dioxholster

    by Cornelius_Gould_Stuyvesant

    nah, thats Thursdays.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Hurley won't die because...

    by meCPS

    when Danielle's crew shipwrecked on the island, they were listening to the numbers being continually broadcast over the radio, and they were in Hurley's voice (check it yourself if you don't believe me). Also, when Ajira 316 set down there, the numbers were coming over the plane's radio. Considering that transmission was supposed to have been turned off by Rouseau, it appears that Jack's plan may actualy work in some way, and that Lapidus, Sun, et.al. are already living in an altered version of 2007, though certainly not the happy reset world that Jack's hoping for.

  • May 13, 2009, 3:57 p.m. CST

    oh AAAAAAAAAND!!!!!

    by 35MinutesAgo

    dioxholster is a giant tool.

  • Emerson said that, not me...

  • May 13, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST

    How was Ethan born on the island???

    by Mrhazard

    Did they ever explain this???

  • May 13, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    Nadia

    by ElPaw

    Sayid's girl?

  • May 13, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    Weird, no lostfan108 this year?

    by Mel_Gibsons_Nazi_Dad

    Isn't that the dude's name that spoiled the last two finales on Darkufo's site? Was he a casualty of the economy and got fired or did he get caught last year and get fired?<p>

  • May 13, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    This is Lost fan central until January.

    by NapPark

    Quick bookmark it before some asshole changes the pull quote.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, and

    by NapPark

    fuck spoilers - see you after the show, Lost talkback...

  • May 13, 2009, 4:03 p.m. CST

    NoPix

    by theGoldbergV

    Yes. You are correct sir.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Only 4 hours to go Lost Brothers! :)

    by Dhaemon

    So what is everyone snacking on tonight?

  • May 13, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    I'm going to eat some

    by Dhaemon

    BBQ wings with Richardsons Ultimate BBQ sauce. It's da'shit yo!

  • May 13, 2009, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Oh and Ilana should be in the Top 100...

    by Mrhazard

    She's the baddest bitch on Lost right now...

  • May 13, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    hello

    by abetyler

    Everybody's ready? <p>First round of mexican coke is on me.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Ilana or Naomi

    by turketron_2

    Who would you do?<p><p> Me - Naomi (chick who got recruited the Freighters).

  • May 13, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    About smokie

    by abetyler

    Did we saw him between 1954 and 1977? I can't recall, we just saw Richie take young Ben in the temple and assume smokie healed him, but didn't see him. So I wonder if it has been created by the incident.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    Hurley is expendable, but he's the only comedic relief

    by Mel_Gibsons_Nazi_Dad

    I did read an iteresting theory that said Locke wearing Christian's shoes and Hurley carrying Charlie's guitar case are for the same reason. Read into to that what you want.<p> I vote everyone dies and we see the time loop play itself again just all in one season. This time the right changes are made to make whatever needs to happen, happen.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    This is going to be a longggggg wait...

    by The Dum Guy

    Last year was tough.<br><br>I wonder when Dexter season 3 comes out?

  • May 13, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    OK - What's with the Mexican Coke thing?

    by decypher44

    I feel so LOST.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    about the MexCoke

    by Taklamakan

    Tom shared some with Arturo, who shared some with Caesar, who shared some with us.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Mexican Coke

    by TripleChimp

    Have you guys ever tried Mexican Coca Cola? That shit is delicious. Mexican Sprite is better too!

  • May 13, 2009, 4:24 p.m. CST

    re: Star Trek

    by Taklamakan

    I know Lindelof worked on it, but did Cuse work on it as well?<br>And what ever happened to edshrinker?

  • May 13, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    the "Incident" was caused by...

    by nobunaga902

    Walter Bishop and William Bell manipulating Red Matter on the Lost island as part of the Dharma Initiative alternate reality. They created the Cloverfield monster and sent it into yet another alternate reality to cause chaos as the "Observer" observed from the Starship Enterprise while having a mai tai with Scotty's little-green-gear-head-alien-midget with the signature Rambaldi tattoo on his hand...per wikipedia....

  • May 13, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Mexican coke is actually what causes the incident...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...or a lack of Mexican coke I should have said.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Ben said

    by enderandrew

    To try and recreate Flight 815 as much as possible. Charlie's guitar case, a prisoner in hand cuffs, a stiff in a coffin wearing the shoes, etc. I wonder if Kate was pregnant to mirror Claire.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Mexican Coke

    by enderandrew

    I've never seen it in Nebraska and as a coke lover, I really want to find me some.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Herc

    by enderandrew

    If anyone goes back in time to become Adam and Eve, it is Bernard and Rose.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:31 p.m. CST

    I thought the Columbians made the best Coke?

    by The Dum Guy

    At least they make damn fine coffee.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Enderandrew

    by TripleChimp

    Dude... I live in South Texas... have family in Mexico. I highly recommend it. It'll ruin regular Coca Cola for you.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Adam & Eve

    by decypher44

    is really Adam & Eve. LOST Island = Garden of Eden.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST

    I heard that at the end of this episode...

    by GaiustheBrave

    Christopher Lloyd shows up and tells Jack he has to go back. Jack says, "Doc, we can't go back to the past." Lloyd responds, "NO, Jack, we have to go back to the future. It's your kids. They never know each other and make 'Two Girls and a Cup in 3-D'!"

  • May 13, 2009, 4:37 p.m. CST

    LOST SUPPER

    by DaddyP69

    After reading the many post involving tonight's dining, I, too, became convinced to partake in said menu. Purple Kush for the Island's Purple Sky, and a little hybrid of Afghan (for Sayid - yeah I know he's not not Afghani, but roll with it) and Maui Wowie (Obvious reasons). Let the appetizers begin!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 4:37 p.m. CST

    It's true, we haven't seen Smokie before the Incident

    by turketron_2

    Doesn't mean he doesn't already exist though. Richard says to the Dharma people that the fence can keep other things out, but not him (was he referring to smokie as the "other things"?). Also, there's the inscription in the underground ruins that shows what looks like Smokie facing off against Anubis... but for all we know that could have been drawn at practically any time.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST

    Jack holds up Faraday's journal

    by enderandrew

    But where can we find 1.21 giggawatts?

  • May 13, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Smokezilla is a security system

    by enderandrew

    For what? For the Mexican Coke. That's what.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    GaiustheBrave, you're close...

    by turketron_2

    But it's actually 2girls1cup in Smellovision.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    man daddyp69...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...can i come "watch" lost with you?

  • May 13, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Series Finale

    by enderandrew

    Lost ends with the Black Pearl landing on the shore. ABC/Disney rakes in the millions in the ensuing movie franchise.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    Fish Biscuits

    by enderandrew

    They smell like Juliet.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    C'mon Brian...

    by DaddyP69

    ...the door's unlocked. Just stop at the store and get some DORITOS!!! And some more papers -- I'm almost out.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Fuck a mexican coke...it's all about COLA CHAMPAGNE

    by turketron_2

    THAT SHIT IS DELICIOUS.... Fuck, I think I'm gonna stop at the nearby Latin grocery store and pick up a 20oz to go with my Lost meal. IT'S A CELEBRATION, BITCHES!

  • May 13, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    And please let Kate and Hurley DIE!!!

    by decypher44

    Don't hate on me.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    I think the fact that Dharma spent

    by theGoldbergV

    all that money on a sonic fence probably means Smokie does exist before the incident. And there's also Ben seeing his mom in the jungle, although actually this happened afterward the Incident I guess. I don't know. Has anyone watched the Ben episode from S3 since this whole Dharma stuff began? Does it match up? Because I can't imagine they had all this story about the losties going back to the 70s worked out during season 3. <p><p> Didn't Horace have a different wife in that episode?

  • May 13, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    I must disagree, RichardAlpert...

    by GaiustheBrave

    Star Trek, imho, was not smart, at all. It was exciting and I was never bored but I didn't once consider it smart. There were far too many holes and silly inconsistencies. <br> Maybe it is a fan, non-fan thing. I love Trek, otherwise.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    DeCypher44

    by TripleChimp

    Kate can die... Hurley should stay.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    As a vb

    by ElPaw

  • May 13, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    As a brit

    by ElPaw

    Can someone explain this Mexiican Coke injoke to me?

  • May 13, 2009, 4:47 p.m. CST

    lol turketron,

    by GaiustheBrave

    the thought had occured to me. I'll never again ask the question, "How can two girls together be anything but sexy?"

  • May 13, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    SAWYER JUST NEEDS TO MAN UP...

    by DaddyP69

    ...and take Juliette and Kate BOTH. It IS the 70's! And they BOTH have different attributes that make them the perfect compliment for each other. If Seth Brundle were on the Island, he could combine them into one for Sawyer.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:49 p.m. CST

    ElPaw

    by The Dum Guy

    I'm pretty sure it has something to do with drugs, or a drink (that used to be a drug).

  • May 13, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Is anyone else a little worried...

    by nopix

    About the fact that time travel is supposed to come to an end this season and we still have more to explore with the DHARMA Initiative? I mean, what's the deal with nice guy Horace? What about Dr. Chang? What were there goals?

  • May 13, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Mexican Coke

    by decypher44

    Mexican Coke usies real sugar. I haven't tried it, but it is said to taste a LOT better. This is why Pepsi just released their "Throwback" Pepsi with real sugar.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:52 p.m. CST

    no it's cause Meixan coke is made with...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...real sugar instead of here in america where it's made with artificial sweetners. As far as a joke it just took off after idrinkyourmilkshake brought it up i think and everyone just kept talking about it and weird little places to find it.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:54 p.m. CST

    My LOST meal for tonight.

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    I am going to eat Sun.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Woah, hold up

    by theGoldbergV

    Are you saying US Coke doesn't have sugar in it? In the UK it still has a shit load of sugar piled into every can. Small consolation over the next 4 days but at least I get to drink real coke whilst waiting for Sunday.

  • May 13, 2009, 4:56 p.m. CST

    US Coke

    by MachThree

    Sweetened with corn syrup these days, rather than good old fashioned granulated sugar as it was in days of old...

  • May 13, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    BUT YODA...

    by DaddyP69

    If you seat Sun, you'll be hungry again an hour later. What then? Jin? Miles? Dr. Chang? WHERE DOES IT END, MAN!!??!! WHERE DOES IT END!

  • May 13, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    or...

    by DaddyP69

    If you EAT...love my own typos!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Hey Brian...

    by DaddyP69

    you almost here?? I'm getting hungry, man!!

  • May 13, 2009, 5 p.m. CST

    The best 3 words in the english language:

    by turketron_2

    "PREVIOUSLY, ON LOST..."<P> We shall hear them in 3 hours my friends!

  • May 13, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Hey If you lived in Houston...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ..i'd be on my way with loads of Doritos...

  • May 13, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    REAL SUGAR? Isn't that how they make that new Pepsi?

    by turketron_2

    The one in the weird blue can with the trippy commercial? Coke > Pepsi though, so maybe it brings it up to the level of Coke... or at least RC ;)

  • May 13, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    1.21 Gigawatts!

    by kevinwillis.net

    Only some sort of electromagnetic incident could generate that sort of power, and you never know when one of those are going to happen!<br><br>We do now, Doc! We do now!

  • May 13, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST

    sugar?

    by 35MinutesAgo

    no thank you, turkish.<p> i'm sweet enough.

  • May 13, 2009, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Waaaaallllllllltttttttt!!!!!! Walt!

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    It wouldn't be a LOST talkback without our boy Walt.

  • May 13, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Young Kate and Young Sawyer

    by zooch

    We saw Young Kirk and Young Spock...now it's happening on Lost! What's up with these guys and liking to show people as kids?

  • May 13, 2009, 5:16 p.m. CST

    If I saw the cave drawings on the Ben episode correclty....

    by Han Cholo

    It looks as though a god that looks somehow Egyptian sent the Smoke creature or Cerberus (that's what I heard talkbackers call it) to the island as some kind of guardian. I think that fits with the fact that the statue Sawyer, Locke, and the others saw in the distance while Locke was trying to get into the well to stop them from travelling time, looked like the cave drawing.

  • May 13, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaallllllttttt should be like 8 foot tall by now...

    by Mrhazard

  • May 13, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Hmmm... our new home?

    by theBigE

    I guess this TB is our new home for the next 8 months. Just stopping by to say hello! I don't want to chance getting spoiled yet ... though Doc Jensen posted a really good theory earlier today on EW.com that I think makes a lot of sense, and just thinking about it I feel spoiled already! See ya'll at 11pm!

  • May 13, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Charlie is Jacob!

    by IHaveSeenEveryEpisodeOfPrisonBreak

    mark my words!

  • May 13, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    awwww here it goes!!

    by manicfanatic

  • May 13, 2009, 5:33 p.m. CST

    Someone is someone else!

    by Dapper Swindler

    So says every Lost fan theory

  • May 13, 2009, 5:34 p.m. CST

    Walt

    by paburrows

    Yesterday was the actors 17th birthday

  • May 13, 2009, 5:36 p.m. CST

    DarthMrBelvedere

    by paburrows

    I haven't heard from you since the end of the "We Have To Go Back!" Talkback.

  • May 13, 2009, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Ben is Jacob from THE FUTURE!!

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • May 13, 2009, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Oh my god!!

    by Dapper Swindler

    I just realized that Bernard was Mr. Gorpley from Perfect Strangers. How did I not see that all these years?!

  • May 13, 2009, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Maybe Jacob said "Help Me"...

    by MetiphisLabs

    Because Christian came along and usurped him and is keeping him at bay while he fulfills his own secret agenda.

  • May 13, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Benard was Holland Manners

    by theGoldbergV

    on Angel. Lorne is Jacob!

  • May 13, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST

    I think when the bomb goes up, some guy gets

    by lockesbrokenleg

    trapped in between time. He can see the past AND THE FUTURE! And that's Jacob.

  • May 13, 2009, 5:52 p.m. CST

    The bomb goes off

    by StuckinthePresentPaused

    i tink jughead will go off the radiation being a reason that babies cant be born on the island anymore makes alot of sense in my head. and the hurley is gonna program the swan computer and radsinsky is gonna lock himself in the swan at some point b4 the bomb goes off.

  • May 13, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Jacob is a Robot, built from the bomb parts

    by Dhaemon

    King to queens pawn!

  • May 13, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Jack's got a bomb...

    by nopix

    In his pants. And Kate has to sit on it.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:05 p.m. CST

    Man #1

    by TheMarineBiologist

    This... is... going... to... be... awesome...

  • May 13, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Im dying to try mexican coke...

    by Sweet Action Hero

    ...but didn't fucking swine flu start there? fuck that.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Cerberus

    by enderandrew

    Cerberus is the name given for the smoke monster on Radzinsky's map in the hatch.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    mexican coke

    by charlesbronsonLIVES

    got me arrested one night in new york. i don't know about the use of real sugar but at 45 dollars a gram that shit wasn't so hot. i'd take peruvian coke any day. also, sawyers got aids.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Herc, Locke never said Ben didn't talk to Jacob

    by nalapou

    He said Ben never SAW Jacob, he's definitely talked to him.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST

    More throw shit to the wall and see what sticks seasonal plottin

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Too damned bad LOST managed to implode plot wise since season one. It's like each season a group of monkeys are brought in to spin the plot wheel, followed by teen writers who have attempt to patch together a coherent season. <p> Sure it still fun to watch, mainly because LOST has become a dumbassed caricature of what it once was. <p>I hope to hell they end it soon, next season right, because having no plothas become meaningless. <p> I remember hanging on every single second of season one. Watching the show in slow motion ( Heroe's too) just in the vain hopes of picking out a new clue. Then season two rolled around and the crackhead writers had no focus. Sure they tossed out some new characters. They all FUCKING DIED! <p> Same with the next seasons. <p> Now it is cover your ass storytelling in the vague hope someone can write and ending before the money dries up.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    StuckInthePresentPaused, What? Radiation? WTF!

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Take a trip down memory lane to seasons past. Let us recall that there was a vaccine which allowed Aaron to be born. The same vaccine Desmond had to inject once a day. Dead French woman suggested that her people went into the jungle and came back differently. OVER TIME. Like a DISEASE. A DISEASE the vaccine would stop. I even remember vague hunts to the same explanation. <p> NO FUCKING RADIATION!

  • May 13, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Riddle me this, why did the others play dress up ?

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Never been explained, just like all the other loose threads. Plane from Nigeria for example.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:24 p.m. CST

    A vaccine?

    by Dhaemon

    Strangely I do not remember this...

  • May 13, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    EvilWizard

    by StuckinthePresentPaused

    obviously you didnt pay attention enough because they showed that the Disease was more than likely just a lie when Desmond saw that Kelvin was going out of the hatch with a whole in his hazmat suit.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST

    You don't inject vaccine once a day

    by ElPaw

    It wasn't vaccine

  • May 13, 2009, 6:33 p.m. CST

    EvilWizard

    by StuckinthePresentPaused

    obviously you didnt pay attention enough because they showed that the Disease was more than likely just a lie when Desmond saw that Kelvin was going out of the hatch with a whole in his hazmat suit.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:33 p.m. CST

    EvilWizard

    by StuckinthePresentPaused

    obviously you didnt pay attention enough because they showed that the Disease was more than likely just a lie when Desmond saw that Kelvin was going out of the hatch with a whole in his hazmat suit.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:33 p.m. CST

    EvilWizard

    by StuckinthePresentPaused

    obviously you didnt pay attention enough because they showed that the Disease was more than likely just a lie when Desmond saw that Kelvin was going out of the hatch with a whole in his hazmat suit.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:33 p.m. CST

    by wyvern

    plane was explained in season two.Eko's brother was flying drugs in statues.Oh and g4 is having a interview right now by the main dudes of lost!

  • May 13, 2009, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Wuzzup

    by dancetothebeatofthelivingdead

    Dropped in to say what's up but i gotta get outta here fast. I've managed to avoid spoilers the last two weeks but only by avoiding talkbacks too. I'll drop back in to find a comfortable chair for the next eight months after the show. Til then, I will bathe in the unbridled happy wet jolly goodness that is a solid three hours of Lost. Just think, in a few days Dick Holder will be gone for eight months.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST

    Yes, Ben has definitly talked to Jacob, the question is...

    by Gordon Bombay

    whether or not he has actually seen him.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Whutup paburrows

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    Yeah, I'm back up in this Mama Jama. Wow LOST is better than ever. Hope you've been working on those cartoons? I saw an image from the LOST game, I think it was a conceptual drawing of the Sawn hatch. It was gigantic and awesome! Like out of Star Wars or somehting. You should incorporate that into your Toons

  • May 13, 2009, 6:49 p.m. CST

    EvilWizard

    by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise

    The Others most likely played dress up to keep the 815ers (and who knows who else) under the impression that they were uncivilized and didn't live in Pleasantville. Why would they want the survivors to get any ideas? As for the Nigerian plane, what more do you want explained? There are certain issues that you can take Lost to task for (i.e. Libby) but everything you mentioned is bullshit. If you haven't been watching, shut the fuck up, and if you are watching, why don't you just stop since you obviously hate it so goddamned much.

  • May 13, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    FYI-Mexican coke ain't no good

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    We all know Mexico is only good for Tequila and discount Hookers with tattoo's and C-section scars

  • May 13, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Does Ilana work for the Lone Gunmen?

    by Ash0k

  • May 13, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST

    2 minutes till the recap show starts

    by Dhaemon

  • May 13, 2009, 7:03 p.m. CST

    First!!!

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • May 13, 2009, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Damn it.....so close

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    In an alternate universe I could be first

  • May 13, 2009, 7:04 p.m. CST

    WTF my sound and video isnt matching up...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...is anyone else having this problem!!?

  • May 13, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Wasnt Bernard also the principal on Growing Pains???

    by Mrhazard

    LOST needs BONER...

  • May 13, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Richard IS Smokie!!! That's why he never ages ...

    by Lamerz

    FRINGE is off the chizz-AIN! Seriously, I was cool with it, but nuthin special after the first few episodes. But by the end of this season I thought it was the second best show on TV right now, after boom-LOST of course.

  • May 13, 2009, 7:08 p.m. CST

    This shit is gonna be the BO-DIGGITY!!!

    by VitoRapesFinn

  • May 13, 2009, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Less than 3 hours here on the Pacific coast!

    by Lamerz

    I CAN'T WAIT. The world better not end or something before then. <P>Seriously, the apocalypse needs to wait until at least June 2010. I need to see how boom-LOST plays out.

  • May 13, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Richard was CAP'N o' the Black Rock ...

    by Lamerz

    The island, once not far off the coast of Africa, had been subjugated by the Egyptian types who learned the secrets of its power. The island appeared under the Black Rock after the Egyptians moved it. Richard, captain of the Black Rock, lead his crew against the Egyptians and wiped them out. The island rewarded Richard with eternal life and the ability take on many forms, turning him into Smokie.

  • May 13, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Bernard was in "WKRP in Cincinnatti"

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    I think he was a sleazy DJ? Damn, I loved that show when i was a kid. Whatever happened to Herb Tarlick?

  • May 13, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Jacob is Richard's (barely) physical form ...

    by Lamerz

    That is all.

  • May 13, 2009, 7:18 p.m. CST

    They need to make KRAP in Los Angeles ...

    by Lamerz

    "KRAP ... we play the most crap on your radio dial!"

  • May 13, 2009, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Yeah I agree, The Llst scene of "Fringe" was great

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    I think they had to start it as a boring procedural to snare the "Get-er-Done" audience. But as we progress, it'll be more Jules Verne

  • May 13, 2009, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Alternate Realities

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    They arent going to go the Alternate Reality are they, Season 4, had them going back, Losties, seperated by location, Season 5 by time, Season 6 by dimension ??? <p> Hopefully not a)its being covered in Fringe and b)think they want to simplify it after this season.

  • May 13, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Richard Alpert not aging

    by enderandrew

    Is the same as the island healing Locke and Rose.

  • May 13, 2009, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Ben wants to kill Jacob/Richard because ...

    by Lamerz

    He knows the island can provide eternal life

  • May 13, 2009, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Ender - NO its not ... Ben has very clearly aged.

    by Lamerz

    So did Widmore while on the island. Who else?

  • May 13, 2009, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Death Speaks: So long 兇殘殺手!

    by MacFaux

    There was a merchant in Baghdad who sent his servant to market to buy provisions and in a little while the servant came back, white and trembling, and said, <br><br>“Master, just now when I was in the market-place I was jostled by a woman in the crowd and when I turned I saw it was really Death that jostled me. She looked at me and made a threatening gesture; now, lend me your horse, and I will ride away from this city and avoid my fate. I will go to Samarra and there Death will not find me.” <br><br>The merchant lent him his horse, and the servant mounted it, and he dug his spurs in its flanks and as fast as the horse could gallop he went. Then the merchant went down to the marketplace and he saw Death standing in the crowd and he came to Death and said, “Why did you make a threatening gesture to my servant when you saw him this morning?” <br><br>“That was not a threatening gesture,” Death said, “it was only a start of surprise. I was astonished to see him in Baghdad, for I had an appointment with him tonight in Samarra."<br><br>

  • May 13, 2009, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Jacob is a descendent of Vincent

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    The island accelerated the descendents of Vincent to be human (sorry Red Dwarf). Don't be suprised if Jacob likes catching frisbees and sniffing butts.

  • May 13, 2009, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Lamerz

    by enderandrew

    The island hasn't healed every injury. It picks people to heal. It is the same power that stops Richard from aging.

  • May 13, 2009, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Ender - I know not everyone was healed. Still disagree ...

    by Lamerz

    Ben served the island, or so it appears, for many years. The island would have hooked him up with the no-aging deal if he was the leader and main protector of the island. People that have been healed still age. Richard is different. He's Smokie.

  • May 13, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    Hell, Locke's been healed. If aging is part of the package

    by Lamerz

    .. then the island should have de-aged him back to his prime. Why keep him old?

  • May 13, 2009, 7:34 p.m. CST

    Juliet will die tonight, Sawyer will never go back to Kate

    by Lamerz

  • May 13, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Lamerz

    by enderandrew

    Who says Ben served the island? Supposedly the will of the island was for Alex to die and Ben disobeyed. And even if you don't believe Widmore, Smokey sure seemed pissed at Ben for disobeying the will of the island. I don't think aging is part of the package for everyone. I think Alpert is so closely tied to the island that it affects him more than others.

  • May 13, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Completely improbable origin of Smokie...

    by The Dum Guy

    It is actually made of magic (sentient) smoke, which was thought up by the writers during a late night brainstorming session involving a bong.<br><br>Writer #1--"Dude, I got it. Smoking lets us think up weird ideas, right? So, what if there was smoke that thought up its own ideas. Huh!<br><br>Writer #2--"You just blew my mind. Lets do it."<br><br>Writer #3--"What?"

  • May 13, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    So Dead

    by dioxholster

    So Lost

  • May 13, 2009, 7:49 p.m. CST

    T-minus TEN MINUTES Bitches!

    by Atomica

    Hell yes. SO excited. :P

  • May 13, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Lamerz

    by attackpatterndelta

    I see your point. Perhaps Ben's gift was having no sickness, which is why he was shocked when Juliet diagnosed him with the tumor. He posibbly his time was almost up as leader, that might've been the sign.

  • May 13, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Diox you getting excited ?

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • May 13, 2009, 7:56 p.m. CST

    Online live streaming?

    by PedroM

    Where?

  • May 13, 2009, 7:57 p.m. CST

    what next season?

    by punto

    isn't this the series finale? I thought they had decided to end it, and there were a bunch of interviews and stuff.. did they decide to keep milking it? that sounds exciting.

  • May 13, 2009, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Sadly, the recap did not include

    by karatemedia

    1) Sun's horribly delivered comment about Jacob from last week. 2) Daniel's astoundingly long death speech, given with his incredibly full last breath. Just 3 minutes left!

  • May 13, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Sadly, I did not remember to include

    by karatemedia

    Line <p> breaks <p> in <p> my <p> comments <p> Also, did they ever explain what made Change finally believe that Daniel was from the future?

  • May 13, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    the recap DID include...

    by Sweet Action Hero

    ...'twitchy' and 'your mother is an other'?

  • May 13, 2009, 8 p.m. CST

    Chang

    by karatemedia

    I meant Chang. Chang I can believe in. <p> I'll shut for at least the next hour now.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:02 p.m. CST

    ohshit

    by livahd

    just jizzed my pants

  • May 13, 2009, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Nice Start...

    by attackpatterndelta

    ...of the show, wow!

  • May 13, 2009, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Mata Nichiyobi

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Japanese for see you on Sunday TB, after I get a chance to watch the show, and do my best to avoid reading...hell anything on the internet. <p> To everyone who is watching it today, have a fantastic couple of hours, and have some beers and mexican coke for me.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Jacob!!!

    by attackpatterndelta

  • May 13, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST

    LOL, karatemedia!

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Chang - yes, he can!

  • May 13, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST

    wow

    by evildeadron

    did not see that coming

  • May 13, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Wow...

    by memento108

    Awesome beginning. This show just got even bigger.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST

    I am gonna shit my pants.

    by BlindMessiah

    See above

  • May 13, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST

    FUCK.

    by Gawdfather

    It really is the season finale.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Jacaob and , , uh . . .

    by jocutus

    Esau? I though he would be hairier.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST

    fuck

    by Sweet Action Hero

  • May 13, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Missed IT

    by dahveed1972

    Can someone quickly sum up the opening scene? I missed everything but Jacob's last line

  • May 13, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST

    i guess

    by TheFluxCapacitor

    JACOB LIES IN THE SHADOW OF THE STATUE

  • May 13, 2009, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Everytime they show the statue i mess my pants...

    by BrokenHeath

    and will this be the end of Jacob?

  • May 13, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Does Patsy Cline HAVE to play...

    by Shermdawg

    ...in EVERY Kate flashback?

  • May 13, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST

    That opening already cements this as BEST SEASON FINALE EVER!!!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Nuff fucking said!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Hey, that's Jacob.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST

    good god

    by evildeadron

    this is going to be a wild ride tonight

  • May 13, 2009, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Again, FUCK.

    by Gawdfather

    Whoa, and, um, whoa.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:08 p.m. CST

    wow

    by Captain Tragedy

    just...wow

  • May 13, 2009, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Wow!

    by attackpatterndelta

    Kate and Jacob meeting, can I say wow a few more times, lol!

  • May 13, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Evil Locke

    by Gawdfather

    yikes.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    My guess is...and i'm probably wrong, but

    by memento108

    Alpert is the guy that was with Jacob in the beginning. don't ask me how he looks different, but...

  • May 13, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Locke's going to go postal

    by axel fff

    in a passive-aggressive sense.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Hoshi Sato is on Criminal Minds!

    by chrth

    I just thought some of y'all might want to know ;)

  • May 13, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST

    It's a nuke.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 8:16 p.m. CST

    bomb

    by Loosejerk

    yep, I second (or third by now)....bomb in the crate.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Jack = Jacob

    by The Dum Guy

    Guess not.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:17 p.m. CST

    I thought nuke too...

    by Mrhazard

  • May 13, 2009, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Dunno Sherm

    by Gawdfather

    Can't get mouthwash on a plane but can get a nuke? Actually that's probably about right.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    how bout this.....

    by Loosejerk

    you die, Jacob brings you back...you get the urge to slaughter all non-essential (read non-Others) peeps on the island.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    If it ain't Blalock....naked....I don't care, chrth. ;)

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    general zod is with the shadow ppl

    by livahd

    jacob got rid of the dude in black, replaced him with richard. i have no idea what im talking about. damn smoke monster

  • May 13, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Seriously, RADZINSKI MUST DIE TONIGHT!!!

    by Mrhazard

  • May 13, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    Locke is getting awfully cocky...

    by BrokenHeath

    ...take care of the other passengers - hmmmm. I bet you Ben ends up killing Locke for good.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST

    I bet Jacob runs into everyone at some point in their lives

    by memento108

    And we see all of them in flashbacks tonight.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Hey, that's Jacob.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Is Jacob...

    by attackpatterndelta

    ...Aaron? Why would he care about these random people?

  • May 13, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Bitches on this show are crazy

    by axel fff

    They dont have the balls to let Jack blow himself up or to let little Ben die.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Please kill Kate

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    pleeeeeeeease

  • May 13, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    attackpatterndelta

    by Shermdawg

    Holy shiiiii....you might be on to somethin'.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Unbridled Happy Wet Jolly Goodness!

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    dancetothebeatofthelivingdead just inadvertently revealed the name of JJ Abrams secret crossover project.<br /><br /> UNBRIDLED HAPPY WET JOLLY GOODNESS was recently greenlit by Showtime to replace THE L WORD. It features actresses from all of JJ's projects in hot girl on girl action as requested by AICN talkbackers.<br /><br />Keri Russell & Evangeline Lilly & Jennifer Garner & Yunjin Kim & Zoe Saldana & Elizabeth Mitchell & Anna Torv & Michelle Rodriguez & Emilie de Ravin & Lizzy Caplan & Rebecca Mader & Cynthia Watros have all signed up for JJ's "tasteful" erotic anthology to be filmed during the summer hiatus.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Jacob-centric flashbacks

    by BlindMessiah

    Kinda makes up for the elusive Richard episode

  • May 13, 2009, 8:27 p.m. CST

    PLEASE HELP

    by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise

    My stupid DVR isn't recording and I missed the first 10 mins! All I saw was a drill and then Thirty Years Later...so fucking pissed. Please fill me in!

  • May 13, 2009, 8:28 p.m. CST

    You are

    by Loosejerk

    This show is definitely hitting each of the pre-commercial beats HARD!

  • May 13, 2009, 8:29 p.m. CST

    enderandrew, re: Fringe

    by BillboeFett

    It really doesn't take off until about the 7th episode in.. then the 10th episode.. total 180 degree turn into awesomenees.. by the time the finale hits--wow! Give it another shot at least past episode 10 and see if you're still curious dude. I promise you'll be rewarded

  • May 13, 2009, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise

    by Shermdawg

    Nero's drilling to the center of the island and is gonna use the red matter to blow the thing up.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Not a huge complaint, but...

    by obi_juan

    I think it's lame to keep introducing new characters.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Hey, that's Jacob.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 8:30 p.m. CST

    POW BIATCH

    by BlindMessiah

  • May 13, 2009, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Damn, Sayid deserves to cut Jacob's throat

    by Gawdfather

    rat bastard.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:31 p.m. CST

    My bad.

    by Shermdawg

    Cause a singularity that implodes the island.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise

    by mthrndr

    You're gonna have to watch the beginning online. Perhaps one of Lost's best opening scenes ever.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    by PedroM

    Shes gonna be angry, biatchh

  • May 13, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Yeah

    by attackpatterndelta

    Looks like Jacob meets with everyone, and possibly caused some of the grief of the LOSTIES. Maybe trying to do something to the time line?

  • May 13, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    New characters??

    by blhotz

    What new characters?! Damn 30 minutes and like 100 commercials down already. So glad it's "2 hours".

  • May 13, 2009, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Aw crap

    by BlindMessiah

    Horace isn't Horace... the van man is a lostie?

  • May 13, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Leonard Nimoy should have been cast as Jacob.

    by Royston Lodge

    Woulda been a nice piece of synergy, ya know?

  • May 13, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST

    That white trash mofo shot Sayid

    by axel fff

    Of course this means war!!

  • May 13, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST

    ******SPOILERS******

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    in swedish chef language.<p> bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork bork <p> ****** end spoilers*******

  • May 13, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST

    Shit! Come on Jack, save Sayid.

    by Gawdfather

    Don't want him going out like that.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Or, even better, Jacob should be played by...

    by Royston Lodge

    ...The Observer. That woulda blown people's minds.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    this is like a dream!

    by Hercules

    Richard Alpert sledge-hammers a hole in an ancient temple's wall and it leads to a basement rec room in Dharmatown?

  • May 13, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST

    thats fucked...

    by Sweet Action Hero

    going out like boba fett. weak.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST

    by PedroM

    hahaha loved Jack´s smile when Hurley/Jin driving the van came around.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST

    And Hurley the Love bug strikes again

    by gotilk

    like a dream indeed

  • I'll miss you Sayid... You were my favorite Iraqi torturer...

  • May 13, 2009, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Sayid with his last breath kills Jacob...

    by BrokenHeath

    ...one can only hope.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    It's no dream.

    by Royston Lodge

    My rec room is like that, except instead of an ancient temple there's a nest of possums on the other side of the wall. But they're from the future!

  • May 13, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Doesn't matter

    by mthrndr

    galavanting around with that core in his damn backpack would kill Sayid anyway.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Mised the part with Sayid's love, what happened?

    by taking_up_space

    I came in just as she was dying. What happened to her?

  • May 13, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    jack will die and make a return in season six as...

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    half man, half robot. and this time...its personal

  • May 13, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    wtf

    by evildeadron

    vincent?

  • May 13, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Vincent

    by PedroM

    RULES

  • May 13, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Hey, that's Gorply.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    VINCENT!!!!!!!!

    by Mrhazard

  • May 13, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Not Jin!

    by PedroM

    Miles, im sorry!

  • May 13, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Bernard: "Son of a bitch."

    by Gawdfather

    Hahaha. Just what I was thinking.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Whaaaaat?

    by Royston Lodge

    That's pretty wacky.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Miles...

    by obi_juan

    Why couldn't Miles talk with dead Faraday?

  • May 13, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Yeah, it was Jin AND Miles

    by PedroM

    Fuck!

  • May 13, 2009, 8:42 p.m. CST

    ha ha ha

    by evildeadron

    because were retired, best rose line yet

  • May 13, 2009, 8:42 p.m. CST

    my assumption has always been that Jacob is Jack

    by smackfu

  • May 13, 2009, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Rose: OhHellNo! Bernard:Sonuvabitch!

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Why do I worry that's what we'll ALL be saying at the end of this episode? ;^)

  • May 13, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Rose.....

    by DARKJEDI

    Oh this shit is great!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Rose´s speech

    by PedroM

    Something i always thought

  • May 13, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    There it is...

    by BlindMessiah

    ...wouldn't be a modern fable without a Magical Negro granting a life lesson to the angry, violent white youngsters.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    That Bernard line about...

    by DanielKurland

    dying and just wanting to be together pretty much solidifies that those skeletons are them.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    "maybe another day"

    by v1cious

    do i detect a death flag?

  • May 13, 2009, 8:45 p.m. CST

    Hey, that's Jacob.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Juliet is Toast?

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    It must be jelly cuz jam don't shake like that...

  • May 13, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Even better still, Jacob shoulda been . . .

    by Royston Lodge

    . . . Bernard. That woulda been so awesome.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Im sooooo confused

    by DARKJEDI

    But I love it!

  • May 13, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    That was Jacob?

    by PedroM

    Asking Ilana for help?

  • May 13, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    I bet I know what's in the box.

    by Royston Lodge

    I bet it's Marcellus Wallace's soul.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST

    This is sooo GOOD!

    by attackpatterndelta

    I don't get it, they seem to be suggesting that something has changed, maybe in the past?

  • May 13, 2009, 8:51 p.m. CST

    It's seems like the finale is a...

    by DanielKurland

    COMMERCIAL-centric episode. God.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Who was that Melona chick with head wrapped in bandages?

    by BrokenHeath

    As for Sayid's girl, as she and Sayid were crossing street, Jacob stops Sayid to ask for directions and she keeps walking then turns around in middle of street to look back and gets struck by car.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Hey, that's Jacob.

    by Shermdawg

    And that was pretty nifty.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    More than ever, I say Jacob shoulda been The Observer.

    by Royston Lodge

    Or at least the same actor. Woulda been super-duper.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Locke just fell down

    by PedroM

  • May 13, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Hello and GOODBYE Rose and Bernad!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Nice seeing you but you can be killed off now!<p>I'm a bastard!

  • May 13, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Locke's gonna kill 'em all, not just jacob.

    by Royston Lodge

    That's my prediction.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    BrokenHeath

    by Shermdawg

    The Lone Gunman chick that just burned down Jacob's shack.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    anyone know what language that was

    by mthrndr

    Jacob and ilana were speaking? Oh, and this show fucking rocks the house.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Is Ben really a Pisces, or is it just another lie?

    by Royston Lodge

    I see conspiracy everywhere.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Gwyneth Paltrow's ego is in the box

    by White Goodman

    Now that would be some scary shit.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:55 p.m. CST

    I'm a Pisces

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    So am I! I hope he's not lying about that,at least.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:55 p.m. CST

    Emerson really has learned how...

    by DanielKurland

    to make five word sentences sound like fucking accomplished monologues.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Locke´s a BAD ASS

    by PedroM

  • May 13, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Damn....It just keeps getting better

    by DARKJEDI

    Why the hell wouldnt you want to kill Jacob.....classic

  • May 13, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    by BlindMessiah

    Pisces are psychically tuned and sensitive. Ben is certainly lacking in those areas, what with the vaunted title of ONLY FUCKING PERSON ON THIS ISLAND WHO HASN'T SEEN A GHOST

  • May 13, 2009, 8:57 p.m. CST

    So, I bet The Monster hates Jacob...

    by Royston Lodge

    ...and The Monster's the one that keeps bringing people to the island, because it can't kill Jacob for some reason, but it thinks somebody eventually will be able to.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:57 p.m. CST

    Sun´s is fucking HOOOT

    by PedroM

  • May 13, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST

    BlindMessiah: LOL!!!!

    by Royston Lodge

    You win a No-Prize for that quip. I am in awe.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Hey, that's Jacob.

    by Shermdawg

    Man, he get's around.

  • May 13, 2009, 8:59 p.m. CST

    So is yours, Jin.

    by Royston Lodge

    So is yours...

  • May 13, 2009, 8:59 p.m. CST

    FUUUCK

    by PedroM

    Jacob is everywhere

  • May 13, 2009, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Bernard to Juliet: Would you like some Tea?

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I sweeten it with some brown sugar I found inside these Virgin Mary statues...

  • May 13, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    So, how will Jacob meet Hurley in the flashback?

    by Royston Lodge

    Maybe he sells Hurley the lottery ticket!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:01 p.m. CST

    crackpot theory

    by evildeadron

    ok so here it is, at the beginning of the episode we meet jacob( god ) and the devil, there is some insuation about bringing people there more than once, but it always ends bad (because mortals suck), so now we see jacob (god), interjecting himself into the chosen lostie's lives, as if he is hand picking his apostles.... john locke = john the baptist? anyone care to toss this one around?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Cunt Kate

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    fucking things up for her own benefit<p> Just like she has her entire life<br> steals, kills over and over.<br> Kate is a sociopath

  • May 13, 2009, 9:01 p.m. CST

    Bernard already has enough brown sugar.

    by gotilk

    Rowr!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:02 p.m. CST

    Jacob meets Hurley

    by BlindMessiah

    He's either a patient or visitor at the mental hospital a la Abbaddon, or he's a cashier at KFC. Either way, someone Hurley would instinctively trust.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:02 p.m. CST

    how the FRIG did kateawyliet get out of the ocean

    by mthrndr

    and in front of the bus JUST IN TIME?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST

    next to last hour of Lost versus whole season of HEROES

    by DARKJEDI

    Not even close....Lost knocks it out the ball park again

  • May 13, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Why hasn't Charlie been back?

    by White Goodman

    or Claire? Claire makes my webbed toes tingle and even though Charlie's death was great, they should have brought his ass back more than once.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    So how many Planet of the Apes moments...

    by Shermdawg

    ....have we had in the last few finales? Nice shot there of the foot.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Damnit i lost my online link

    by PedroM

    streaming link its down!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Jacob lives in a giant FOOT!

    by attackpatterndelta

    Okaaaaaay!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Fuck

    by BlindMessiah

    I remember years ago, hearing this horrific story of a spinal surgery gone wrong, and it made me queasy. Fucked up of them to remind me.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:06 p.m. CST

    @attackpatterndelta

    by evildeadron

    jacob = john madden and the other group is carrying a huge crate of tough acting tinactin

  • May 13, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Opening

    by Bulls Eye

    That was the greatest opening to Lost ever. Black Rock, Jacob, Statue. Now let's see where they go with it.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Jacob's an old woman who lives in a shoe?

    by Royston Lodge

    Naaaaah...

  • May 13, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Jacob is TOUCHING each of them

    by mthrndr

    I wonder if he's 'marking' them somehow.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Jacob works for Cadbury!!!

    by Royston Lodge

    He's a chocolate pusher!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Hey, that's Jacob.

    by Shermdawg

    I was beginning to think Jack was operating on him, or he was one of the surgeons.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Richard vs. Jacob?

    by blhotz

    ...here's a theory going in my head atm - Richard is trying to beat/kill/take-the-place-of/destroy Jacob and he can't find out how to do it himself so he keeps recruiting "leaders" hoping one of them can do the job or show him how to... so is Locke the one?!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    attackpatterndelta

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Jacob lives in the cabin 8 months a year. The Giant Foot is his summer beach house.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    KICK HIS ASS, JAMES!!!

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Go Sawyer!

    by taking_up_space

  • May 13, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    evideadron

    by attackpatterndelta

    And that is the ultimate bomb, ending Jacob's years of itchy torture. Whoah, FIGHT!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    At last...

    by BlindMessiah

  • May 13, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Sawyer kicks Jacks ass for once

    by PedroM

  • May 13, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Jacob is the god Apollo

    by obi_juan

    Did you miss the obvious clue?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Jawyer working out some UST

    by buffywrestling

    'Bout time.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Women. Typical. Gonna drive Sawyer nuts.

    by Gawdfather

    LOL.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Noooooo!

    by Loosejerk

    We're having bad weather here....what did Juliet say before the break?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    The women on this show are indecisive cunts

    by axel fff

  • May 13, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    So I guess the nuke will somehow be...

    by taking_up_space

    brought to the statue and blow up all of it but the foot?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Okay now I hate Sawyer

    by CherryValance

    *grabs brains*

  • May 13, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    Axel fff

    by BlindMessiah

    What does this show have to do with anything?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    make up your mind bitch

    by Texbear2000

    ..must be some sweet thang for sawyer to hang with that!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST

    The Sawyer/Jack fight is long overdue...

    by Mrhazard

  • May 13, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Loosejerk

    by Shermdawg

    She said she changed her mind,then broke the fourth wall and told us to watch V next season.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Sayid is bleeding to death and Jack agrees to a 5-min talk

    by BrokenHeath

    ...talk about a malpractice suit.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:16 p.m. CST

    taking_up_space

    by mthrndr

    that's what I'm thinking as well.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST

    OMG Juliet's tits look amazing

    by memento108

    I want her.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Sayid can STILL Kick Your Ass

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    One arm tied behind his back, gutshot and running a fever...

  • May 13, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    I really like watching Juliet walk around in that shirt.

    by Gawdfather

    Rackage.

  • let's move on...

  • May 13, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Nobody in the AICN #lost irc chat.

    by Royston Lodge

    I was gonna switch to chat, cuz it seems better than liveblogging the talkbacks. But there ain't nobody there, and Lost is a verboten subject in the #aintitcool.com chat room. Hrm...

  • May 13, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    That would have been nice

    by CherryValance

    if I ever bought Suliet in the first place.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    cymbalta4thedevil

    by attackpatterndelta

    Yes, and he's pissed someone destroyed what was attached to the rest of his summer foot-house, do they know how long it took him to add those extra rooms? I'd be pissed too!;)

  • May 13, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Yeah, but her bony upper chest is kinda creepy.

    by Royston Lodge

    Frig Juliette, eat something wouldja?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    by DARKJEDI

    dont trust her Jack

  • May 13, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Deadwood

    by nicatron

    Titus is 4 I think. Kim Dickens, Paula Malcomson, and Robin Weigert have all shown up.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST

    The first boring Lost season finale

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    But all will be forgiven if Kate dies.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST

    "Freckles" Austen and "Freckles" Bauer

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Who do you "Jack" to more often?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST

    The Goode Family

    by mthrndr

    looks funny.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Manny Ramirez should give Juliet some of his hormone shots

    by BrokenHeath

    ...I changed my mind, heh. If the bomb goes off and all this never happens then you won't break my heart.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST

    "Whites only at this house" LOL. Goode Family may deserve

    by Gawdfather

    a watch.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST

    Fuck

    by PedroM

    so many commercials, its driving me nuts

  • May 13, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    We need a spinoff starring Juliet and

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    her shirt in this episode. And I agree about Goode family, looks like it might work.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    hmmm...things seemed to have bogged down

    by Texbear2000

    lets go!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST

    So, Jacob meets Hurley after his meltdown in the convenience sto

    by Royston Lodge

    I'm confused as to when this scene is taking place.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST

    We´re back

    by PedroM

    with Hurley leaving prison

  • May 13, 2009, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Hey, that's Guitar Case

    by mthrndr

  • May 13, 2009, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Hey, that's Jacob.

    by Shermdawg

    And it looks like the guitar case wasn't Charlie's afterall.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:27 p.m. CST

    So Jacob is touching some before ...

    by taking_up_space

    their first trip to the island and others after (such as Hurley). Hmmm...

  • May 13, 2009, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Jacob is honest with Hurley. HA!

    by Gawdfather

    Good choice.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    hurley goes back to the island because of Jacob

    by mthrndr

    Nice.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Jacob gets impatient with all the subterfuge...

    by Royston Lodge

    ... so when it comes to Hurley he just says, "fuck it," and decides to take the direct approach. That's kinda funny.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Locke has some nice breastacles

    by trafficguy2000

    Best tits on the island! But my wife still thinks he is hot. :(

  • May 13, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    They're all angels.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST

    I wanna see Jacob with Short 2004 Walt

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    That would prove they had this in mind all along...

  • May 13, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Its not my guitar

    by PedroM

  • May 13, 2009, 9:30 p.m. CST

    He had himself a gee-tar case...

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    I have another new idea, jacob should be played by...

    by Royston Lodge

    ...Mel Brooks, and the foot is the final remains of the Mega Maid from Spaceballs!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Who cares if they had it in mind all along?!

    by taking_up_space

    It doesn't matter. All that matters is the overall story. Not everything had to be a carefully plotted piece of the puzzle. I think it far more creative to be able to adapt and make a better story than stick to something just because it was the original idea.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Who you gonna call?

    by karatemedia

    Jack Busters!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:32 p.m. CST

    I think it was planned all along for them to ...

    by Royston Lodge

    ... not have a plan. Whoa, I think I just fried my own mind.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Kick Ass Locke

    by DARKJEDI

  • May 13, 2009, 9:33 p.m. CST

    Also - if Hurley's return was a

    by karatemedia

    literal Deus Ex Machina, I'm gonna destroy something.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:34 p.m. CST

    I guess Richard has been in the foot, because...

    by taking_up_space

    he took Locke's torch, knowing Locke wouldn't need it.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Locke giving Linus a knife

    by taking_up_space

    a) he's REALLY tempting Linus to kill him. b) He must have something clever in mind, I doubt he wants Linus to kill Jacob.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    He's afraid that Locke and Ben will find...

    by Royston Lodge

    ... his massive porn collection, which he keeps in the foot.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Whyd u turn ur back locke?

    by Captain Tragedy

    You gave Ben Linus a knife and you went in first? A little too cocky maybe?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    karatemedia...regarding jack busters

    by memento108

    BRILLIANT.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Why would hand the guy who tried

    by buffywrestling

    to kill you a knife? Then walk in front of him? Down a dark corridor? Hello, Deathwish!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    so, who was the dude at the beginning who hated jacob?

    by mthrndr

    I'm going with Esau.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Who said this finale was boring??

    by axel fff

    I beg to disagree

  • May 13, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    taking up space

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Oh,I agree! But Darlton said they took Walt's growth spurt into account in their planning, so I keep wondering if they filmed any secret Walt scenes in advance? That would be amazing!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    The man talking to Jacob in the beginning of hour one?

    by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl

    My money is that was Smokey.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Locke gonna die....again

    by manicfanatic

  • May 13, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST

    give a guy a who's tried to kill you before a knife...

    by BrokenHeath

    ...then turn your back on him. Not the brightest of moves.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST

    re: spifftacular

    by manicfanatic

    guarantee his name is Esau. Study yo bible.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST

    mrthrndr

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    His agent. That's why we haven't seen Jacob till now.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Jacob

    by BlindMessiah

    Sort of reminds me of a kinder, softer Chuck Norris. Also he can occasionally be a rampaging douche (see also Sayid's wife), just like Norris.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Oh crap, I really hope they don't . . .

    by Royston Lodge

    . . . go all religious in the final season, with Jacob and "the other guy" being God & the Devil, or something retarded like that. They might as well put Sawyer on waterskis and have a shark swimming just off the beach.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Sawyer finally gave Juliet a nickname

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    Now she knows it's love.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    man I hope they kill phil

    by manicfanatic

  • May 13, 2009, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Miles throwing logic into the situation. HAHA.

    by Gawdfather

    Logic is Lost on those folks, Miles (pun intended).

  • May 13, 2009, 9:40 p.m. CST

    More like live alone, die together...

    by Mrhazard

  • May 13, 2009, 9:40 p.m. CST

    That device is way too small for a 1960s-ere nuke.

    by Royston Lodge

    I'm just sayin...

  • May 13, 2009, 9:41 p.m. CST

    Suddenly it's Rio Bravo

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

  • May 13, 2009, 9:41 p.m. CST

    I bet the sky turns plaid...

    by Royston Lodge

    ... or maybe paisley.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST

    What was Juliet's nickname?

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I missed that part...

  • May 13, 2009, 9:43 p.m. CST

    oh snap

    by mthrndr

  • May 13, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    And its a dud

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    kates pussy slime got to it

  • May 13, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    There goes the arm

    by BlindMessiah

    I was wondering about that

  • May 13, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Uh did Sayid

    by CherryValance

    disable it? On purpose?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    cymbalta

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    Blondie - not much of one admittedly but it's something.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    do you think that created a black hole?

    by mthrndr

  • May 13, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    hahahahahahaha

    by manicfanatic

    fuck you phil!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:45 p.m. CST

    WOW!!!

    by attackpatterndelta

  • May 13, 2009, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Shoulda killed Kate instead.

    by Royston Lodge

    The writers really don't like blondes.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST

    oh snap

    by mthrndr

  • May 13, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST

    "You've got me? Who's got you?"

    by White Goodman

    Would have been a great response.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Juliet just went to V

    by memento108

    Wow.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST

    FUUUUCK

    by PedroM

  • May 13, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST

    There goes the blonde

    by BlindMessiah

    I was wondering about that

  • May 13, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Oh Snap, Julliet is DEAD

    by mistergreen

  • May 13, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST

    That's the best thing that happened all season

    by CherryValance

    I really didn't like her.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST

    noooooooooo take Kate, not Juliet

    by BrokenHeath

    ;(

  • May 13, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST

    The Sarlacc is at the bottom of the pit.

    by Royston Lodge

    Juliet is Boba Fett.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST

    manicfanatic

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    no shit. that was great

  • May 13, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Figures

    by dahveed1972

    And yet Kate continues to draw breath.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST

    The bomb wasn't a dud

    by mthrndr

    The EM force was so strong that either a) the explosion got pulled back in on itself, or b) it compressed the core before it went off, creating a black hole.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:48 p.m. CST

    I just got teary eyed

    by PedroM

    because of Sawyer´s man cry, that anguish when sobbing

  • May 13, 2009, 9:48 p.m. CST

    NOOOOOOOOOO! Those magnificent cans!!!!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Damn you, Jack! Damn you to hell!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Even though we all saw that coming...

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I will miss Juliet!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:48 p.m. CST

    "So, uh, Freckles...

    by karatemedia

    ...wanna fuck?"

  • May 13, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    So are they gonna be stuck in 1977 now?

    by memento108

    Or what?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Juliet/Sawyer saved this season

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    I doubt any relationships will be that interesting next year.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    cymbalta

    by taking_up_space

    that WOULD be awesome!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Funny, I used to hate Juliet and love Kate...

    by Mrhazard

    Now I feel the opposite... Well, hopefully Sawyer will go back to being an asshole again... Juliet was making him soft anyway...

  • May 13, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    shed a tear for a great rack....

    by Texbear2000

  • May 13, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST

    One more segment until the long wait

    by axel fff

    How many answers can they cram in to 10 minutes?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST

    So Locke is actually Esau?

    by Royston Lodge

    That's kinda cheesy.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST

    PISSED OFF!

    by ricky_j

    I hate who ever decided to kill off Juliet!!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    OMG

    by memento108

  • May 13, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    anyone speak latin?

    by manicfanatic

    Seriously, what the fuck did richard just say?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Please can Sun be killed off?

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    C'mon she useless!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Wha!!>!?!?!?

    by memento108

  • May 13, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    WHAT THE FUCK?!!!

    by manicfanatic

  • May 13, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Well, I'll be damned....

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    WHAT THE FUCK?

    by White Goodman

    I JUST SHIT MYSELF.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    by FrenchBastard03

    i fucking knew it was john mother fuckin locke!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Oh shit

    by MetiphisLabs

    !!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Huh.

    by BlindMessiah

    Guess we were on to something for once.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    YES

    by evildeadron

    that is awesome

  • May 13, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    LOCKE = ESAU incognito

    by manicfanatic

    calling it right now

  • May 13, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Oh Snap, Locke's Ghost

    by mistergreen

  • May 13, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    WHOAH? WTF?

    by attackpatterndelta

  • May 13, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

    by CherryValance

    *screams like a girl*

  • May 13, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    WOW! WTF!

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Not thats a fucking head trip

  • May 13, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    WOW! WTF!

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Now thats a fucking head trip

  • May 13, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Locke is Smokey.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Brilliant!

    by taking_up_space

  • May 13, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Aw fuck. Shark jumping time.

    by Royston Lodge

    They're totally setting up Jacob as God and "Esau" as the deceiver/Satan. I'm not lookin' forward to the last season if that's how this plays out.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Hey, that's Jacob.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Jesus Tittyfuckin Tapdancing on a 2x4 Christ!

    by Captain Tragedy

    whoa

  • May 13, 2009, 9:54 p.m. CST

    ille qui nos omnes servabit

    by mthrndr

    anyone speak latin?

  • May 13, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST

    i love that Milkshake brought attention to John Locke's HUGE man

    by GooberNGrape

    three cheers for LOST night!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Fuck, Ben is gonna do it

    by taking_up_space

  • May 13, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST

    by DARKJEDI

    Alex didnt know it wasnt the real locke..

  • May 13, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Locke is the Devil?

    by attackpatterndelta

  • May 13, 2009, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Here's the moment

    by BlindMessiah

    ...

  • May 13, 2009, 9:57 p.m. CST

    You're fired!

    by CherryValance

    LOL

  • May 13, 2009, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Well Jacob kinda did asked for it! LOL

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Go, Ben!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Brief thoughts...an AVERAGE episode...

    by DanielKurland

    Yeah, it had a lot of cool stuff, particularly the Jacob stuff, but the past few weeks were much better, and this episode feared how it would, with something big happening, but not knowing what has happened until next season.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Heres the scoop

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Jacob and the other one are angels. The Island is eden and they were its guardians.<p> One wants out tne other is doing his job.<p> blah, blah, blah

  • May 13, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    wow

    by evildeadron

    just wow

  • May 13, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Fuck you, darlton

    by manicfanatic

    seriously.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    BOOM!!!

    by attackpatterndelta

  • May 13, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    FUCK THAT

    by memento108

  • May 13, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    And there it is

    by White Goodman

    What the crap. Best show ever.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Weak.

    by Royston Lodge

    That ending is weak. Not just the enormous kaboom, but all the biblical stuff as well. It seems pretty obvious now that the island is Eden. Weak.

  • May 13, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

    by Gawdfather

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • May 13, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Well that was fairly lame.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    What the F!@#

    by DARKJEDI

  • May 13, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    by livahd

    bullshit!

  • May 13, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    WOW! WHAT AN ENDING!

    by taking_up_space

  • May 13, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    but really...

    by manicfanatic

    that was amazing.

  • May 13, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    wowee wowee wowee

    by axel fff

    wowwwwwwww

  • May 13, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    Fuck

    by PedroM

  • May 13, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    OH SNap, BOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!!!!!!

    by mistergreen

  • May 13, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    by kyle051554

    DAMMIT I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL 2010 TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS! TOO MANY QUESTIONS! WHAT THE FUCK!

  • May 13, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    I said we'd all say "Sonuvabitch"!

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    I didn't know Juliet would say it too! ;^)

  • May 13, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Jacob should have been played by

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    Aziz Ansari. Just me? <p>Underwhelming finale.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST

    fuck

    by The Dum Guy

    Locke dead<br><br>Who the fuck else isn't dead-dead?<br><br>I need time to digest this.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Oh fuck you LOST!!!

    by Mrhazard

    Not that I didnt like the episode but now I gotta wait until next year to find out what the hell is going on!!! Goddamnit...

  • May 13, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST

    I don't know if the island is eden

    by antimcgyver

    locke would have to be adam, not the devil

  • May 13, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST

    by PedroM

    I cant fuckin believe we´ll have to wait 2010, i thought last season was gonna start yet this fuckin year FUCK

  • May 13, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Season 3's finale is STILL the best.

    by Shermdawg

  • May 13, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST

    FFFFFFUUUUUUCCCCKCKKKKKK

    by turketron_2

    2010 DAMMIT DAMMIT FUCK AATGHGHAGKADL;NDSKL;NSDA;KLA;

  • May 13, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST

    BOOM=LAZY

    by Sweet Action Hero

  • May 13, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST

    ThrowMeTheIdol: Agreed. Weak ending.

    by Royston Lodge

  • May 13, 2009, 10:03 p.m. CST

    So what happened was...

    by DanielKurland

    That this whole time, post Locke's death, Locke has in fact been dead, and it's just been the Smoke Monster (or something?) posing as him on the Island, that wanted Jacob dead? Is that right? Because if that's the case...that's pretty cool. Still not a GREAT finale though.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    What lies in the shadow of the statue

    by mthrndr

    "ille qui nos omnes servabit" I think it roughly means: The way to our salvation.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    well....

    by evildeadron

    anyone who says this was an average episode or underwhelming finale is way off the mark. we got more answers to some of the most important questions, than any other episode, seriously just look at all we learned about jacob, the island, the third group, richard, the statue, etc... what will it take to make you people happy?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    The smoke monster

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    is both jacob and the other guy at different times. each manuliptating events their way

  • May 13, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Esau is Satan?

    by CherryValance

    Since I don't read I only remember the TV movie with Sean Bean and Matthew Modine. I thought they were brothers and Jacob stole his inheritance? When did they become angels or demons or whatever?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Smile...you son of a bitch!

    by Cheif Brody

    Hmmmm....so this is going to be my new home for the next 8 months? Sweet.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    That last scene with Juliet was lame!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    She should've been dead and if not she certainly should've been paralyze!<p>The only misstep to an otherwise great season finale!

  • May 13, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    I dont know if its the smoke monster...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...but I think it was the guy we saw in the beginning talking to jacob who said he wanted to kill him.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Snap judgement - not what I was looking for.

    by theBigE

    Ok - so it can't top season 3. What can? But, if that was Jacob in the shadow of the statue, who was in his cabin? And what was the significance of the ashes? Someone let Jacob out?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    I told you all last week "Looney Toons" detonation

    by SID 8.0

    Remember Bugs in the bomb factory? Mallet whack on the bomb to set it off. Was that Enubis that took over Locke? How the Hell are they going to pick this up next season?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Are all the haters on speed dial...

    by DS9Sisko

    ..or Twitter. Christ, it didn't take them long to come out.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Locke's fate?

    by badboymason

    Does this mean that John Locke as we know him is really dead and gone and will stay that way? So does that mean OQuinn gets to play "devil" Locke all through next season?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Torn on white ending...

    by karatemedia

    ...and not going to be happy if everything turns out to be basic god/devil conflict or angels in Eden or whatever. My wife has been swearing that that is how it will turn out, and I have sworn to leave her if that's how the show ends up. Seriously, Lost, my marriage is on the line here. Don't fuck it up.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:07 p.m. CST

    No question, season 3 finale's is the best...

    by DanielKurland

    The reveal of it being a flash forward is one of the few genuine moments I've been surprised/shocked by TV.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:07 p.m. CST

    They...

    by attackpatterndelta

    ...seemed to imply that Locke was something else, masqaurading as Locke. Went through a lot of trouble to look like Locke, or be reborn in his image?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:07 p.m. CST

    DanielKurland

    by CherryValance

    The reason I screamed when I saw Locke in the box *giggle* is because I assumed it was Smokey. And all this time I believed he was really John Locke. Now we're talking Bible stuff, which I've never been good at. I've always just skipped to the end so *shrug*

  • May 13, 2009, 10:07 p.m. CST

    The latin phrase...

    by Royston Lodge

    I get "he who we all being saved" when I run it through an on-line translator.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:07 p.m. CST

    assuming that guy actually was jacob..

    by Bouncy X

    with his appearance in all of their lives pre-island, i guess they truly were meant to get there. so since this was apparently the end of time travel, do we get a poor Juliet? because if time travel is out, either the bomb went off and she's vaporized or she survived the flash and is stuck down there dying.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    ille qui nos omnes servabit

    by mraig

    Literally: "That one who will save us all."

  • May 13, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    wtf

    by El Borak

    just happened?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Ok next season better be Walt doing some magic shit!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    And whoever stated this episode was weak or boring is FULL OF PIG SHIT!

  • May 13, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Question from Jacob to Locke

    by Darth Valinorean

    What did he mean by "You got your loophole?"

  • May 13, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    10.0/10.0

    by Ash0k

    Wow. Just. Wow. Fringe had an awesome finale, and LOST's finale was flat out !@#$ fantastic. TOTALLY didn't see the twist with Locke coming!!! And the white freeze frame at the end, good God, Team Darlton is EVIL. CANT WAIT UNTIL 2010!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    @theBigE

    by evildeadron

    jacob lived in the statue, esau lived in the cabin (not jacob), the ashes kept esau locked away, until he was set free from his prison, the real jacob had to recruit these "losties" for some reason we dont know yet

  • May 13, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    What a waste of Locke

    by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World

    What happened to him being the great new leader of the Others? His big destiny was just to push that button for awhile, then wander around confused in the jungle during season 3 wondering what he's supposed to do, then when everyone leaves he has to go and get strangled by ben to bring them back. And that's it. Big fucking deal. I got excited when this new Locke was walking around knowing what to do and leading and shit. Fucking finally, I thought. Now I'm actually kind of hoping Jack's plan works. Even though that would basically render this past five years we've watched "noncanon" or whatever. Kind of a lame season ender anyway though, but I wasn't real excited about this season anyway.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Or if they're not angels

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    one is Longinus and the other the Wandering Jew

  • May 13, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    the conversation at the begginning

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...Think Jacob said to the dude dressed in black something about him trying to find a loophole...

  • May 13, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Suck it, haters.

    by Gawdfather

    That was awesome, and we have not a fucking clue at what is coming next. Cliffhanger isn't who shot JR or who's a fucking Cylon, but what will existence be? Don't know who is alive or dead, what year it is, anything really. Love it.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    the latin

    by askholia

    It means something like that who will save everyone. BUT, who is the who in that statement!! Hmm LOST speak up fucker, you are half a year away. Cocksmoker.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    My Latin is a little rusty but....

    by Domm

    I'm pretty sure what he said was "the man who will save us (or me)"

  • May 13, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    ille qui nos omnis servabit, translation

    by mistergreen

    He who saves us all. I think it's in one of the psalms.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Amazed...

    by RipleyGrady

    Truly, one of the best finales of Lost, I believe. It offered the perfect amount of answers and titillating questions (Jacob visiting Losties, Locke as probable Smokie, Illana and crew's allegiances).... I was legitimately talking to the television as the episode progressed. Have I gone crazy, or was this episode just that good?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Awesome

    by RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    So the guy inhabiting Locke's "resurection" body is obviously that guy who was on the beach at the beginning of the episode who said he wanted to kill him. Clearly, some rule is in place where he couldn't,and now hes found the "loophole" or something, and got Ben to his dirty work. I wonder who he is, and I hope Jacob doesn't die, cause I obviously want to know more about him <p> Also, who the hell is that guy on the beach anyway? I can't believe we have to wait 8 months to find out anything new. <p> Overall, awesome, awesome stuff. Whoever said that last scene was lame is an idiot in my opinion. It was perfect, and it made me sad. I screamed out loud when it ended, so frustrating! I'll miss Juliet. I'd rather Kate died. <p> Finally, Jin, buddy...you had to write that down? It was one sentence.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Actually

    by CherryValance

    in another chat I asked if that other guy in the very beginning was Esau but that was just a guess. Is Smokey/Locke that guy too? Was Smokey in the cabin before the ask got moved? Was that guy wearing black because he's Smokey?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    I have liked a lot of this season

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    But come on, that was like a regular random episode, not a finale. And the Juliet thing was too predictable. <p>If they are going to focus on Jacob so much this episode they should have given us more answers about him. And we all figured the bomb was going to blow since it was introduced in Jughead, so not showing any repercussions from it made it feel a bit pointless. Juliet in the shirt in the jungle almost made up for it but not quite.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    re: guy who blah blah blah

    by manicfanatic

    That's the point. Locke was never special. It's really depressing, but all he ended up being was a vessel for this guy I like to call "esau"

  • May 13, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    by Domm

    yeahh, guess you guys beat me to it, haha

  • May 13, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Angry Dying Juliet

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    BECOMES the Smoke Monster. :^)

  • May 13, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    re: Snap judgement - not what I was looking for

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    someone let the other guy out

  • May 13, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Karatemedia is your wife hot? I don't want to jump the gun..

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    but if Lost kills your marriage I'll sub for you, buddy!<p>I want less biblical stuff but good writing is good writing.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    "He who has saved us all."

    by Royston Lodge

    Kinda like, oh, just off the top of my head, JESUS!<p> Weak.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    by FrenchBastard03

    did anyone else get teary eyed when sun found charlies ring? i think what makes this episode stand out are all the little moments like that. made me miss poor charlie. and fuck the haters. that ep was the shit. and the prospect of jacob = god figure vs esau = satan figure, im all for it. its called allegory people, good vs evil, doesnt mean that jacob is literally God and thats where theyre going with it. jeesums.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Nah, I aint buying this angel/demon angle...

    by Mrhazard

    Just seems too obvious (i.e. In the 1st scene, Jacob dressing in WHITE and the opposing character dressing in BLACK...)

  • May 13, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    "Help Me"

    by BigGoozoo

    So the man in the cabin who Locke saw wasn't Jacob after all... it was Esau?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Whoa...

    by The Dum Guy

    Isn't (dead)Locke where the shadow of the statue should be? So, maybe we will get some Locke vs. Locke action...<br><br>I'd say that the flash-forward of season 3 was the first major WTF of finales, but this has one has got me wondering what in the hell is going to happen next season.<br><br>Please, don't dissapoint.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    So now, truly...

    by Flummage

    ..we have an unambigiously Evil character. The way the episode started, it was set up as if this "Esau" chappy and Jacob were indeed a pair, if not necassarily kin.. <p> That's the impression I got, anyway. <p>Oh, and rest in peace, dear John Locke. I wonder if his visage will be the one that Esau will continue to wear for next season. It seemed to me something he took great pains to get...

  • May 13, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    My Latin is rusty...

    by Affleckwasthebombinphantomsyo

    But I'm pretty sure 'ille qui nos omnes servabit' translates as "That (man) who will have saved us all."

  • May 13, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    by ohcomeonreally

    Esau is not the devil, he was jacobs brother, who loved hunting and the outdoors. He traded his birthright to 'Jacob' for some pottage. So they are not setting up for a god -vs- devil smackdown..They are just connecting Jacob and Locke together using a old hebrew story.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    I kinda figure the island and smoky were evil!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    And we knew something was off about Locke.<p>Poor, poor naive Locke thinking he was the one!<p>Walt told you Locke and you ignored him!<p>See NEVER, EVER ignore the weird kid with powers!

  • May 13, 2009, 10:14 p.m. CST

    before the ash got moved

    by CherryValance

    jeebus, the typing

  • May 13, 2009, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Who said Locke is the Smoke Monster?

    by mthrndr

    All we know is that the current Locke is actually the dude from the beginning of the episode. My take: Jacob is the island caretaker. He's in control. He allows people who find the island to make choices about what to do there. It inevitably leads to utopia, then dystopia, chaos, fighting, and death. His pal at the beginning (Esau) is tired of this cycle and wants it to end. He finally gets his way by killing Jacob through deceit.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST

    What a bunch of fucking whiners...

    by OscarsBoss

    Quitcher bitchin. If you want to write a better script change your profession. This was a really great episode. Yeah, I've read the stuff about the actress playing Juliet leaving for "V". Still...that scene ROCKED. And I too like the idea that we have NO idea what next season will bring. Disappointed in this episode? What other show leaves you know know what in the hell comes next? Huh? Tell me, I'd like to know....

  • May 13, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Fucking awesome!

    by GaiustheBrave

    I was wondering, since they're going with the Egyptian motif, if these aren't Egyptian "gods", like Seth and Osiris. (I know Seth didn't need a loophole.) <br> So many answers that leave so many questions. Can't wait to watch it again.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Jacob is dead, folks

    by theBigE

    Now, I know they can bring anyone back, but, the dude was stabbed, then kicked in the fire. Ok, unless he's Jesus or Aslan, he is dead as a doornail! (I know no one is ever really dead on this show, except Locke? Maybe?)

  • May 13, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST

    I was surprised they blew it up

    by Maxer

    I mean, seriously, what's going to happen next season? If the 815 crash timeline is deleted, what's going to happen?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST

    So I wonder what this tells us about Jack's dad...

    by axel fff

    and his "life" on the island. Was that another incarnation the thing that is posing as Locke?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Jacob was talking to the guy in the begininng

    by Phil Connors

    That guy somehow took posession of Locke back in the cabin. He was the one who said, "Help Me".

  • May 13, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST

    The Thing Behind The Curtain

    by RipleyGrady

    I am certainly starting to think that the first inference of Jacob in the cabin should be noted as a landmark. whether or not it is esau remains to be seen, but I think that one can at the very least say that Locke is the new evil on the island... or so it would seem.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST

    One thing that bugs me

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    at the begining of the ep, the full statue had a croc-a-gator face

  • May 13, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST

    ok so what did Jacob mean by...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...theyre coming. Who did he mean. The people that the statue was based on.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST

    ohcomeonreally: He was never referred to as "Esau"...

    by Royston Lodge

    ... in the episode. We're just using that name out of convenience.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Nothing phases Lepidus...

    by Mrhazard

    Guy sees a zombie doppleganger and all he can say is, 'terrific'...

  • May 13, 2009, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Darlton told the truth, they didnt pull a Sopranos fade2black

    by D.Vader

    The pulled a Fade to White!

  • May 13, 2009, 10:19 p.m. CST

    I just wonder like Miles

    by RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    if what they are doing is actually changing something, or if they are just causing the incident they were trying to prevent. I personally think they are just causing the incident unfortunately, which is less interesting, but makes more sense. I don't know what that means for our heroes, but I doubt its going to do what they hoped for.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Damnit is going to be on long wait for the next season.

    by saintsaucey

    I sure as hell didn't see that coming.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Locke can't be the somke monster...

    by GaiustheBrave

    When Ben tells him what the smoke monster/Alex told him about following Locke's orders, Locke acted as if it were all new information. He even asked what she had said. I could see if he were merely surprised that Ben would obey, but all of it seemed a surprise.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST

    So...

    by sanzaru

    Ben is Job?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST

    DrBrianOblivion

    by Bouncy X

    this is just a complete guess on my part but....after he said they're coming, we cut to Jack and friends. so i'm thinking he meant they were returning to the present with the explosion or whatever happens after Juliet set off the bomb. i'm probably wrong but yeah. lol

  • May 13, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST

    I hereby deem evil Jacob as Bocaj

    by D.Vader

    The anti-Jacob, Jacob's brother, the Devil. Henceforth known as Bocaj.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Kate's ass is just incredible. I know I should have

    by SID 8.0

    been focusing on her and James trying to save Juliette butt DAMN! That's why Jack and James were beating the shit out of each other. Must have that ass. Incredible episode. Poor John Locke that's fucked up.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST

    I already have a theory

    by StuckinthePresentPaused

    They have been tricked the whole time. The guy in the cabin in season 3 was never Jacob. It was the bad guy we shall call Esau for now. Esau has been trying to trick Locke this whole time to use him to kill Jacob. <p> The last thing Jacob said is that their coming. I will state now he is referring to the people in the past coming back to 2007/2008 with Jacob somehow helping them since i have a feeling jacob cant really die.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST

    I don't think Zombie Locke = Smokey

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    If the only "loophole" he needed was a dead body he could have killed Jacob in Season One. Something else is going on...

  • May 13, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST

    THIS IS WHY JACK'S PLAN DIDN'T WORK

    by mraig

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. <P> Jack, in 1977, is trying to set off a bomb that destroys the future button-pushing Dharma station, leading to O 815 never crashing, and none of this every happening. He is, again, trying this in 1977. <P> Locke is living in 2007, on the island. His version of 2007 has a photograph of Jack on the island with the Dharma people in 1977. That means that everything Jack is going to do is ALREADY INCLUDED IN Locke's past. <P> Because Locke, Sun, Ben, Lapidus, etc. all exist in 2007, and all remember O-815 crashing, that means Jack's plan didn't work. If it had worked, then there could never have been a version of 2007 with Locke on the island, but which ALSO included Jack back in 1977. <P> Now, from our point of view, WE just witnessed the bomb explode. But from Locke's point of view, that is 30 years in the past, and it was 30 years in the past already when Ajira 316 crashed. There is no sense in which the 1977 timeline and the 2007 timeline are unfolding in parallel, except that that's how they're being presented to us. Locke's 2007 always included this explosion as part of the past, so there's no logical reason that that can all of a sudden be changed now.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Underwhelming

    by strosmer

    Not half as exciting as past season finales. Oh well, at least we will finally start getting answers next season. Or will we?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST

    I haven't read all the talkback posts yet, but...

    by 5-15-9

    Gen. 27:41 And Esau hated Jacob because of the blessing wherewith his father blessed him: and Esau said in his heart, The days of mourning for my father are at hand; then will I slay my brother Jacob.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Oh crap

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    this is another take on fantasy island. jacob is mr rourk and the other guy is tattoo<br> tattoo hates his job

  • May 13, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    So Locke never did shit?

    by Sweet Action Hero

    and jacob appears in one episode and gets killed by ben. LOCKE DEAD = LOST DEAD

  • May 13, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Say, haven't folk said how much Lost resembles The Stand?

    by Royston Lodge

    With this whole Jesus/Jacob vs. Satan/Esau thing, it sure does look like that's how it's playing out.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    *smoke monster*

    by GaiustheBrave

  • May 13, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    "they're coming"

    by antimcgyver

    talking about Jack. or Walt

  • May 13, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    So Miles was right??? The H-bomb IS The Incident...

    by Mrhazard

    Nothing changed... Right???

  • May 13, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Locke Doppelganger = BOB, Statue = Black Lodge

    by Ash0k

    "How's Claire?"

  • May 13, 2009, 10:23 p.m. CST

    DAAAAAARRRRLLLLLLTOOOOONNNNN!!!!!

    by turketron_2

    DAAAAAAARRRRRLLLLLTOOONNNN!!!!!<p><p> Why do I feel like Captain Kirk in Wrath of Kahn!?<p> Dammit. Part of me wants to say fuck this, and not think about this show until next year. I'm exhausted. No idea what's coming next. Awesome job you evil bastards.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Adam & Eve Skeletons are

    by existentist

    Adam & Eve

  • May 13, 2009, 10:23 p.m. CST

    I like that we've all agreed...

    by manicfanatic

    that the dude's name is Esau. Somebody should call Darlton in case they don't know.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Locke's new self

    by RipleyGrady

    I think the major reveal/setup for next season is the fact that Locke is not exactly himself. The carcass of his former self seemed to seal that deal, and although people can speculate on what exactly happened when Juliet slammed on Jughead's core, I think that the reveal of Locke's true self is one of the only concrete pieces of the puzzle we'll be able to go on for the next several months.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Agreed Sid

    by RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    As much as I dislike Kate lately, she just looks amazing in those jeans. I would do some incredibly inappropriate things to Miss Austen.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:24 p.m. CST

    They're coming

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    he meant the people with loches body, that will expose anti-locke<p> Ben is going to be big time pissed.<br> I wouldn't want to be anti-locke

  • May 13, 2009, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Leaning towards white as weak

    by karatemedia

    The "blast to white" is feeling a little weak - largely because it leaves me with the feeling of "they don't know what they're doing, so they just wrote themselves a big out before the final season." <p> I really wanted to see one final shot, like Jack falling out of the sky in Ancient Egypt, Ash-style, in his Ghostbusters uniform, aiming his boomstick at an attacking Smokey. <p> Or something. Anything to actually set up the final season, instead of what feels like kind of a cop out.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:24 p.m. CST

    re: turketron

    by manicfanatic

    I'm with ya, bud. I actually think I'm gonna take a quick break and rewatch that episode because I'm still having trouble processing. Thank god for DVR is all I'm saying.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Agreed Sid

    by RichardAlpert_TimePimp

    As much as I dislike Kate lately, she just looks amazing in those jeans. I would do some incredibly inappropriate things to Miss Austen.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Paradise Lost, folks.

    by MyThesaurusRex

    That's what we're looking at here. And as soon as I pick my brains up off the floor I'll start being able to try to figure everything out how the pieces fit.. But in the meantime...anyone else see shades of Milton?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:25 p.m. CST

    does Darlton read this site?

    by Bouncy X

    they were interviewd on Attack of the Show and referred to that wheel as the donkey wheel. now i'm not so obsessed i remember all the details of this show but was it ever referenced as such? because i've always figured this was a term created on this talkback. so if they do read...maybe Esau will become official cannon. :p

  • May 13, 2009, 10:25 p.m. CST

    re: karatemedia

    by manicfanatic

    could not disagree with you more.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST

    The Statue is Tarawet

    by BradM73

  • May 13, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST

    SID 8.0

    by GaiustheBrave

    Amen, brother. Like I said when Kate was in disguise in seasons of old, I'd recognize that ass anywhere; it's been firmly imprinted in my mind. I think I could watch an entire episode from an angle shot just behind Kate.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST

    noises of collapsing crane/chains = smoke monster noises

    by Jubba

    noises of collapsing crane/chains = smoke monster noises

  • May 13, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Jacob and Evil Locke

    by attackpatterndelta

    Maybe these are the rules they set up, or the rules of Jacob's world. In order for him to have real influence, he has to be real flesh and blood human, and so does the devil. Not sure if Jacob's spirit can be killed, but killing his human form may take him off of the playing field long enough for Locke to have the edge he needs. I agree that theLOSTIES might be Jacob's warriors, or human angels recruited to fight for good.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Guh

    by daggor

    Well, I was rooting for the nuke to re-set the timeline - I hope that's what we're dealing with. I was crushed to see that Locke was dead - I want him back in the alternate timeline. Jack's had become a pansy, unless he's killing people left & right, and Sawyer was Juliet's lap dog. These characters need fixing.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Royston Lodge - great point on The Stand

    by Darth Valinorean

    and we know Mr.Stephen King is a big fan of the show and has talked with Cuse & Co. a few times as well in magazines/interviews etc.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Aaaarghhh!

    by superfleish76

    The power in my entire neighborhood went out for the last 30 minutes!!! Where can I find this online tonight?!?!?!?!?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    re: bouncy X

    by manicfanatic

    oh, I hope so :P

  • May 13, 2009, 10:28 p.m. CST

    White ending

    by adzigjo

    wasnt the bomb going off it was them going back to their place in time....maybe......fuck i have no clue

  • May 13, 2009, 10:28 p.m. CST

    They're coming = Fine-ass Ilana and her 'good guys' crew...

    by Mrhazard

    That was easy to figure out... NEXT... Cant wait to see how Zombie Locke explains Corpse Locke to the Losties...

  • May 13, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Locke is still important

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Jacob will inhabit his body / reanimate him.<p> Jacob goaded Ben into killing him. He will now be surrounded by believers and Esau / Locke will be in a small confined area with a upset Ben with a knife

  • May 13, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Cymblta - loophole

    by karatemedia

    The loophole, I think, is something that Richard said about only a leader could visit Jacob? <p>He stops Locke as he tries to bring Ben into the statue, saying that only the leader can visit Jacob, IIRC.<p> So, if Esau took over Christian's body, he still couldn't visit Jacob, because he wasn't the leader of the Others?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    those bloody rumours

    by RipleyGrady

    I'm just glad that those foilers about the castaways appearing as older versions of themselves didn't come true. I half-expected it near the end, but was glad they didn't come near to the truth at the final minutes. i honestly don't know where they're going from here. No idea.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    re: superfleish

    by manicfanatic

    that's awful, dude. Keep checking EZTV to see if they post a torrent.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST

    so where does Charles

    by adzigjo

    widmore fit into all of this? and wheres desmond.... see you in another life brother

  • May 13, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST

    re: karatemedia

    by Sweet Action Hero

    could not agree with you more.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    We're never gonna see

    by CherryValance

    Desmond again. :( I can't see a reason why we would and there is that lawsuit. I knew that bit with him and Penny looked too much like an ending.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    WOW!!!!

    by gandalftheblack

    That was AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 10:32 p.m. CST

    fade to white was weak??!!!

    by mthrndr

    This end was FUCKING AWESOME? You know what's fucking weak? Season 1's finale where it ends with them looking down the hatch hole. that's it. after a season of buildup, we see nothing but a ladder going into black. THAT's weak. This episode gave us Jacob, Locke's true nature, how/why all the losties actually got to the island (jacob brought them) and an overarching narrative for WHY these things are happening. In the first 2 minutes!!! Relax people. this was 5. fucking. stars.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:33 p.m. CST

    The actress that plays Kate needs to be WonderWoman!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Beef her up and she good to go!

  • May 13, 2009, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Holy hell....

    by The Dum Guy

    <br>at this rate, this TB will reach 10,000 posts by Sunday.<br>

  • May 13, 2009, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Jacob and his twin brother, Esau

    by Sweet Action Hero

    heard all this shit at catholic school. and it was fucking boring then.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Jacob is NOT dead

    by cookepuss

    Think about it.<p> <p> The episode starts sometime in the distant past. He's luring travelers there. In that case, it was a centuries old sail ship. The assumption is that he's testing these people.<p> <p> It's the old Q "humanity on trial" test. In this case, Jacob & the other guy are testing changes in human behavior.<p> <p> I think that they want to see if either:<p> <p> A) Humanity is evolved enough yet to take care of the island and take their place<p> <p> OR<p> <p> B) If this is indeed the Garden of Eden, the test may be to see if humanity has evolved enough to deserve paradise.<p> <p> Obviously, those two guys have been testing people for centuries. I'm guessing that the closest they ever got to perfection was Richard himself.<p> <p> I'm also betting that Richard was on that ship at the very beginning. Count on it.<p> <p> Jacob & "Esau" continue to test people. As Jacob insists, they get closer to what they're looking for with each test.<p> <p> This is why the Oceanic survivors will fail. They're guilty of all of the barbarism that caused the other "applicants" to fail the test.<p> <p> I think that, by the end of the show, most of the cast will be obliviously returned to their old lives.... EXCEPT for Jack & Ben. I think those two will end up replacing Jacob & Esau.<p> <p> Jacob can't possibly be dead. The guy obviously made Richard immortal. He himself has been around for centuries. A stupid knife and some fire is not going to kill him. It's all part of the test on humanity.<p> <p> Esau couldn't kill Jacob because it would be a conflict of interest. It's impossible to conduct the test if the tester is whispering the answers in your ear. <p> <p> It's the Prime Directive. Neither Jacob nor Esau can take direct action. However, they can nudge people into action. <p> <p> Esau's "loophole" was to manipulate the circumstances. If these guys are betting on whether humanity will fail or succeed it pays if somebody is stacking the deck.<p> <p> Jacob would rather let things play out and let humanity's spirit either triumph or fail on its own merits. Esau CLEARLY wants to stack the deck and play dirty pool.<p> <p> Actually, now that I think about it, I don't think that the loophole was necessarily about direct interference. The loophole probably had to do with them being able to leave the island.<p> <p> If they're basically non-corporeal beings, like the smoke monster, the only way they could leave is if they inhabited the body of actual people. Possession. Esau's loophole was to body hop, leave the island and THEN stack the deck in his favor by manipulating everybody over the course of the past 30+ years. <p> <p> Dharma. The Others. The Oceanic survivors. ALL OF THEM. Manipulated by a Esau, who used body hopping to act outside of the island.<p> <p> That would also explain how Jack's father, who was dead, has appeared on the island from time to time.<p> <p> Jack was delivering the body of his dead father via plane in the 1st episode. Esau, or whatever his name is, has used that body to manipulate people like Locke.<p> <p> Hurley is NOT crazy. Technically, he is seeing dead people. However, it is Esau using their bodies and maybe channeling his power (whatever) through them.<p> <p> That would also explain why Miles can only hear dead people.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:34 p.m. CST

    Twin Peaks Season Three....

    by DanielKurland

    And why couldn't have MacLachlan been Jacob? Yes, there are shades of Twin Peaks, The Stand, and many other great texts.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:34 p.m. CST

    "ille qui nos omnes servabit"

    by gandalftheblack

    "He who will save us all." THIS IS GREAT!!!!

  • May 13, 2009, 10:34 p.m. CST

    Was that the Black Rock offshore in the opening sequence?

    by axel fff

  • May 13, 2009, 10:34 p.m. CST

    @ manicfanatic

    by karatemedia

    And I think that wil be one of the most debated things about the finale for the next few months - so maybe it was a really smart idea.<p> Still, it doesn't give me the greatest confidence that they know where they're going post-explosion. Simplest explanation is that the '77 Losties end up back in '07, which would be a boring way to end this finale, so no reason to reveal it now.<p> Still, I was hoping for a batshit crazy ending for the '77 troops.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:35 p.m. CST

    One of my...

    by attackpatterndelta

    theories is on the show is that the science of time travel touches on what some might call the spiritual realm. You could even argue that they are extremely advanced beings fighting a struggle. Science at a God-like level maybe?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:35 p.m. CST

    jacob's fate

    by RipleyGrady

    I truly hope this is not the last we see of him. Pellegrino, for the short time he was onscreen, I must say did an outstanding job of filling the shoes of a character fans have had an image of in their mind since S3. I hope his burning carcass is not the last we shall see of him. Although, listening to the finale podcast it would seem that the creators had some idea of of his fate.......referring to him as a 60 ft. pillar of flame. While not that tall, he certainly is a burn victim.......

  • May 13, 2009, 10:35 p.m. CST

    made me laugh

    by RonnieDanger

    Tell me i'm not the only one that was screaming,,, Wesly Snipes did that in Demolition Man,, Man kill this guy

  • May 13, 2009, 10:36 p.m. CST

    karatemedia

    by strosmer

    I haven't posted in Lost talkbacks before, but have watched every episode, if only out of sheer curiosity and the fact that it is generally well-played and one of the more interesting shows on network TV. Personally, I think this series has been copping out since the beginning of season 3. It should have only been a 3 season show to really work effectively as a series. I'll follow it through, but if this season is any indication of how the final season will play out, even with an Abrams directed series finale, count me disappointed.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:36 p.m. CST

    There's a reason the show leave us with a "What the hell" feelin

    by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World

    They take it off in a completely different direction every season, often to the detriment of the show I think. They make you think the show is going to be about one thing, but it ends up being a big nothing. That's not neccesarily a bad thing, a lot of time it works on the show for the small things, but the big things like THE OVERALL DIRECTION AND POINT to the show, it doesn't work so much for that. <p><p>It's been like the this for the Hatch (ending up not meaning a whole lot), then the Others (almost as complete a mystery to us now as when they were first revealed), then Widmore (we know now he's just some former leader wanting to get back, wouldn't be suprised if we never see him again), then the Oceanic Six plotline (s3 ending makes it seem like a big deal, s4 spends the whole time just gettng it started, then it's resolved in no time in s5). <p><p>The FINAL SEASON in this 6 year long serial show is going to start next year and either it will undo everything we've seen so far (unlikely, but maybe) OR it's going to be about character and elements just introduced to us or are completely unknown to us. It's fucked up. It doesn't make for very enjoyable viewing in my opinion, all this setup for nothing. <p><p>I brought up Locke earlier because his character is kind of a microcosm of the entire show. Walkabout was the episode that got me hooked. He saw the monster and lived to talk about it, he was crippled before the crash etc. He was built up to be this chosen one type guy to lead the others for years now, but actually he just gets strangled during the halfassed oceanic 6 storyline and that's it, some dude is using his body now. All this talk of destiny but nobody has really ever DONE anything. One season left and we've no idea what the purpose of anything actually is. That's not how I'd write a serial show. I actually think these shortened seasons have hurt the show. It's all so rushed now the weaknesses in their plotting have become more apparent. Somebody just watching the final season without having any idea of what the show is about would have almost as much information as I do.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Kate leaning over the edge to save Juliette

    by SID 8.0

    I'm surprised James didn't try to cop a feel of that ass even while trying to save Juliette. Like an idiot I turned to the show at the end of Jacob's conversation with the guy on the beach. What was his name and what did they talk about? All I saw was "Always nice talking to you Jacob."

  • May 13, 2009, 10:37 p.m. CST

    At least they didn't End

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    with 30 years older makeup wearing Jin walking out of the Temple to meet Sun, the way some of the spoilers had led us to believe. And how can Richard tell Sun he "saw them die" when Hurley was in that picture and he wasn't anywhere near that nuke? Hmmmm...

  • May 13, 2009, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Yea didnt we see before that there was...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...a white smoke monster and a black smoke monster. Im guessing the white smoke monster is jacob and the black one is esau and those bodies that we saw them in were just their current vessels.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:38 p.m. CST

    had to have been the blackrock ship

    by adzigjo

  • May 13, 2009, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Is THE STAND any good?

    by Ash0k

    I've heard that there are similarities between LOST and THE STAND? And Damon is apparently a King fan. As a die hard LOST junkie, is THE STAND overrated drivel or something totally worth checking out?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST

    terrrrible episode

    by BeatsMe

    liked the season a whole, but what a whimper of an ending, despite the nuke going off

  • May 13, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST

    A few thoughts...

    by The Dum Guy

    I always saw Locke as a Christ-like figure, in that he was going to have to sacrafice himself.<br><br>A few episodes back I started to think that Locke was the man-in-the-box (cue Alice in Chains), so I wasn't really all that surprised by it.<br><br>My thinking is that now we (as I said above) will get a Locke vs. Locke moment... mainly since Terry (also a name that has something to do with God (I think)) O'Quinn was the only person specifically chosen to play his role.<br><br><br>Goddamnit, I hope we don't get a the-end-is-the-begining-is-the-end finish (ala Dark Tower).

  • May 13, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST

    I hereby deem evil Jacob as Bocaj

    by D.Vader

    The anti-Jacob, Jacob's brother, the Devil. Henceforth known as Bocaj.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:40 p.m. CST

    We need for that statue to come alive and go apeshit..

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    on everybody! Cloverfield my ass!

  • May 13, 2009, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Richard in 2007.....

    by cookepuss

    Didn't he say that he saw the Oceanic 6 die in the 1970s? Have we forgotten about that now?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST

    The Black Rock looked good sailing along.

    by Cheif Brody

    Poor Magnus...he has no idea what's in store for him. <p> Welp...I called the quadrangle going back to a love triangle...and I called Juliet's demise. <p> I called Pierre losing that left arm. <p> I called a stone back door on Anubis. Must be a bitch to close behind you when you go out for groceries though! <p> Wow. Answers galore. But even more questions. Anyone wanna take a crack at these? <p> 1. What's in Hugo's guitar case? Whatever it was, it obviously wasn't needed for 'the incident'. <p> 2. Why is Richard so clueless? How can he NOT KNOW a. That it's not the real Locke? b. That he's never seen a person be 'brought back to life' by the island. c. Doesn't he seem more & more 'out of the loop' and less & less 'magical'? <p> 3. What was up with Rose & Bernard? Where were they in relation to the island? Some place that Juliet, Sawyer & Kate had never SEEN before? I thought the Losties had been all OVER that island. Is it now just matter of time before B n R turn out to be A n E in the caves? <p> 4. So Jacob and his buddy at the beginning implied that people had been coming and going from the island for centuries as they stared at the Black Rock about to come ashore. They talked about history repeating itself over and over again....the fighting...the killing...(Hmmmm...B n R sounded the same way, huh?). Questions are...WHO ARE THESE TWO...HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN WATCHIN THIS HAPPEN...and WHY DID THE DUDE WANNA KILL JACOB? <p> 5. So...Did Jack/Faraday's plan "fix" the future...or did they just create the REASON a button had to be pushed every 108 minutes? I'm wondering if 'the plan' didn't work, how ANY of them survived being so close to a thermo nuclear explosion? <p> 6. Where's my Claire Bear?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST

    IF history cannot be changed

    by cookepuss

    then Richard '07 might not be so far off base. It's what he saw, but it may not be 100% what happened. The bomb probably shunted them.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST

    DanielKurland

    by CherryValance

    You're saying Locke the way he was on the island recently is like bad Dale?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST

    ARRGG! I FUCKING LOVE THIS SHOW!

    by Raymar

    Please give Josh Holloway an Emmy!

  • May 13, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST

    Should they have ended this finale WITH...

    by Mrhazard

    the reveal that Locke is in fact dead??? Would that have been better than the 'fade-to-white'??? Might've been repetitive since that was the reveal at the end of last year's finale... Still that was a lot more shocking than the bomb going off... Regardless, I still liked the fade-to-white...

  • May 13, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World

    by Ash0k

    I would rather hypothesize on well scripted mysteries in LOST as opposed to have fully understandable trash thrown in my face every week (I'm looking at you, HEROES).

  • May 13, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    re: re: karatemedia

    by manicfanatic

    Oh, I totally get where you're coming from. But I wouldn't trade the feeling I had when the ending title came up for anything against that white backdrop for anything. Because at this moment I cannot even begin to guess where they're driving this ship. And there has to be something to that: the colors of the title were inverted. It's always been white lettering on black, now it's black lettering on white. I'm sure they're trying to tell us something about what's happening even if it's just a signal of control of the island transferring from Jacob's hands to Esau's and all that that implies. I just don't know. I will say though that there is definitely a part of me that wishes I had the remote from Click right now just so I can see the first episode of next season RIGHT. NOW.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Now that we've done the Latin...

    by mraig

    Anyone want to know about that Greek that Jacob was weaving in the beginning? <P> The words are ancient Greek--Homeric Greek, in fact. They say: <P> θεοὶ τόσα δοῖεν ὅσα φρεσὶ σῇσι μενοινᾷς. (Hope this Greek display works). <P> It's from the Odyssey, Book 6, line 180. It means "May the gods give you everything that you desire in your heart." They are the words Odysseus says to the princess Nausicaa when he washes up on her island while he's trying to get home to Penelope--Penelope who is, by the way, weaving and unweaving a tapestry back at home even as he's doing this. <P> Now go back up and read my damn time travel theory!

  • May 13, 2009, 10:43 p.m. CST

    guitar case

    by RipleyGrady

    Well, really thought this was going to be explained. My 8 month guess is that it's full of double-fat mayonnaise and ho-ho's.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:43 p.m. CST

    on another note

    by manicfanatic

    My favorite part of the whole evening was that really brief scene with Rose and Bernard. Seriously, I almost cried when he said, "So we die. All that matters is that we're together." Call me a pussy. I don't care. Fuck you.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    SID 8.0, Kames was copping a feel that why

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    Juliet fell! He was only saying those things to Juliet because he was feeling guilty! LOL<p>Naw, I'm kidding! Although Kate is the kind of woman who looks good dirty and clean!<p>That bastard from LOTR is a dumbass for letting that piece of ass go!

  • May 13, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    damn good episode.

    by zom-bot.com

    seems like no matter what, everything is happening as it did anyway. they should have done nothing. <P>was dr chang's injury really bad enough to lose his lower arm- like in the films? looked like just his hand to me. maybe he loses all muscle control in that arm, and it's not fake like we thought. well, they still have to explain the dates and the periods of having the dead arm and not having it in the films.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Strosmer

    by karatemedia

    I'm still on board. I cam back on board when they announced an end date for the series, and I don't feel like I've been completely disappointed yet. I'm torn on the fade-to-white, but think the Locke twist is interesting.<p> They stumbled in the middle of the series, IMHO, but even D&C said they originally envisioned this as running approx. 100 episodes. They claim they always knew the beginning and the end, so I'm willing to trust them on that.<p> This is just one of those shows where I can't profess my love or hat for it until the final episode. It's like trying to form an opinion on The Usual Suspects w/out seeing the end.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Jacob & The Angel

    by fenroth

    I'm not the best authority on the Bible, but didn't Jacob wrestle an angel and win. Perhaps God imprisoned the Angel after he lost to Jacob, and when Jacob eventually died as an old man, instead of going to Heaven, his soul was banished to the Island with the Angel. Somehow, they are both doomed to repeat events for eternity as penance for their fight. Of course it is probably Esau. They didn't say his name for a reason, but his hair was a "smoky" color.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Oops, meant *James* not Kames copping a feel!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    You know it!

  • May 13, 2009, 10:46 p.m. CST

    re: mraig

    by manicfanatic

    I'm on board with your theory, but I think everyone pretty much is. The only people that don't believe the "what happened, happened" hypothesis are the losties themselves. We all know you can't change the past or else suffer a universe-ending paradox in the time/space continuum.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    re: the stand

    by RipleyGrady

    Worth a read, regardless of the possible influence on Lost. The only thing I found was that Mother Abigail is 108 years old... although that hardly constitutes a legitimate connection...or does it?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:48 p.m. CST

    Guy Who Got A Headache

    by strosmer

    Definitely on the same wavelength there. I think the first two seasons were just phenomenal, but the show ended up being such an unexpected hit that the writers/producers found themselves scrambling for a means to keep the series going, and we've since had what feels like rather contrived plot points the rest of the way. All hope for a killer final season lies in the fact the producers did decide to end the show in the sixth season. That and hopefully the writers have been developing all these plot points toward an already determined endpoint for it all.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:48 p.m. CST

    So Bocaj has been in control of Christian Shepherd?

    by D.Vader

    I wonder what the relationship between Smokey and the Walking Dead are. <p>I always thought it strange that Smokey disappeared before Alex showed up before Ben, ie, we never actually *saw* Smokey turn into Alex- she just sorta appeared. <p> And she was under the control of Bocaj, setting up the pieces, making sure Ben would do whatever Lock told him to do, so that Ben would kill Jacob. <p> This means that Smokey might just be unaffiliated. However, it suggests entirely that Bocaj has been in control of Christian and has set up the entire plot to get Locke off-Island, get Locke dead, get Locke brought back, so that he can manipulate Ben.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Bocaj has been living in Jacob's shack

    by D.Vader

    It was Bocaj's shack. Illana said "he hasn't been here for a very long time," and said that someone else had been living there instead. <p> Who? Christian. Saying he was speaking on behalf of Jacob. But he wasn't- he was working with Bocaj.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    re: karatemedia

    by manicfanatic

    but the twist ending is what makes The Usual Suspects. I don't think your analogy holds. At least in my opinion, I don't think the ALMIGHTY FINAL ANSWER is the most important thing. It's the experience of pursuing that, of discourses like this, of being left wondering what the fuck would happen next. Honestly, I already think I'm going to be let down by THE answer (how could I not be after spending so much time thinking about it), but that won't ruin my ultimate enjoyment of the show.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Mrhazard: I agree.

    by Royston Lodge

    That would have been a much better ending, and would have left us all speculating about what it meant. It would have left us itching for the next season premiere to explain it. The way they actually ended it, I don't really care about the next season premiere.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    hugo/desmond

    by Frankbizzle

    yeah whats in the guitar case and is desmond no longer in the arc

  • May 13, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Fenroth

    by karatemedia

    I believe you are correct, but that's based entirely on my listening to U2 in the '80s.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST

    but D.vader...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ...werent there two smokies...the white one and the black one...to me that would make it obvious which one is which and what their motivations would be.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST

    This thread...

    by KnightShift

    ...will have 27,000 comments by mid-morning tomorrow. That's all I got.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST

    LOST is VIDEO GAME MYST

    by Dan Halen

    the writers have said they were influenced by it... for those that are too young or dont' remember... You are dropped on a mysterious island with strange landmarks and riddles. You discover there are TWO BROTHERS chasing each other through time a la Cain and ABLE. If I remember right one is crazy and evil the other is good. Apply that to this series and tonight's episode and there you have it. THEY ARE COMING....

  • May 13, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Someone needs to ask Darlton...

    by Demerson

    ...why they rip off Iron Maiden songs. "Powerslave", anyone?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:52 p.m. CST

    i teared up when juliet fell

    by zom-bot.com

    . so why did they have to ruin it by having her be alive and able to detonate? she was at the bottom of a pile of stuff that would have been crushing her- plus the magnetic force of it all. AND stuff fell in before her yet she was at the 'bottom' of it all. uh-huh. now, if she had had the strength to just look over at the bomb, and brush her hand over it or push something inside and it went off as she died- that would have been cool. but screaming and pounding away- unrealistic to the max.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Just when you thought we'd get answers in the finale...

    by D.Vader

    We get MORE questions instead! <p>Who is Bocaj? <p> Is Jacob dead? <p> Locke is REALLY dead? (NOOOOOOO!!!!) <p> Who broke the ashe? <p> Who are the Ajiras? <p> Did they change the past? <p> Is Juliet and Sayid dead?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Hmm

    by wallygogo

    Well, rather that wait till next year, let's try and sort through some things while they are fresh in our minds. - I'm thinking the guy at the beginning of the show who was talking to Jacob is evil. As in ULTIMATE evil. He was dressed in Black. And Jacob, dressed in white, is Good. - While the bad guy spent his entire existence looking for the "loophole", Jacob spent his life making sure that the castaways did exactly what they were supposed to, to make it to the island. Jacob was acting as an insurance policy to make sure "Whatever happened-happened". -If you translate Alpert's Spanish, "He who will save us all" lies within the shadow of the statue. -I'm thinking dead Locke in the Box, laying dead within the shadow of the statue is what Richard meant. -Speaking of Richard, or Ricardo as Elana called him, I believe he arrived on that ship at the beginning of the show. After all, he doesn't age right? (a gift from Jacob? Eternal Youth?) - The other LOCKE has to be the guy from the beginning, taking a human form, as we've seen him do many time over the years. As Ecko's brother, Jack's dad too maybe. -I also think the evil guys true form is that of the smoke monster. Remeber the painting on the wall of the Statue (representing Jacob) battling with the smoke monster (representing the evil man). -Whoever this evil guy is, it appears he used Locke to get what he wants, manipulate people, especially Ben, into killing Jacob. Is that how he found the Loophole? -It appears Richard and Eliana are truly "The Good Guys", battling with Jacob against this man. It also appears the castaways, and even Ben Linus got stuck in the middle. -There will probably be a ton of Jacob flash back's next year. How long has he been on the island? Why is he fighting this evil man? -In closing, I don't think Jack's bomb prevented a thing. I thing it actually caused all the events to happen. - Next season will most likely begin right where it all began, with the plane crashing on that island, only instead of waiting six seasons for answers, we'll only have to wait for one. As I said yesterday, see you in January. They are coming.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:55 p.m. CST

    Not white smoke- white light

    by D.Vader

    That's what Locke said he saw in Season 1. But since then, all he and we have seen is the black smoke. I really don't think its evil or in Bocaj's control.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:55 p.m. CST

    so was Ben's memory really wiped or not?

    by ghost_matt

    Because in the recap show, when they showed Sayid shoot him, Damon and Carlton commented "you could conclude that that's where he lost his ability to trust people".

  • May 13, 2009, 10:56 p.m. CST

    manicfanatic - The Usual Suspects

    by karatemedia

    But I think that Lost's ending could be the same in that it should frame all of the preceding events in some way. It may not be a huge twist, but it should allow you to go back and watch the series and say, "A-ha! I get it now, this is where it was all leading."<p> I don't need some crazy twist, but I do desire some general satisfaction out of some of the answers to this years-long mystery. If it's just God v. Satan, then I'm going to be pretty disappointed in the series in general.<p>

  • May 13, 2009, 10:56 p.m. CST

    haha Myst...

    by RipleyGrady

    Choose the Red book...the blue book....the red book.....the blue book... if I recall, you pick the white book and win the game? All I remember is laughing my ass off at those brothers' voices.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:58 p.m. CST

    so then what the f is up

    by adzigjo

    with claire?

  • May 13, 2009, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Good Omens?

    by siatrisx

    Getting a Terry Pratchet vibe in this episode...

  • May 13, 2009, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Grandfather Paradox

    by cookepuss

    A paradox is only ONE potential issue with or outcome of time travel. You've also got....<p> <p> - The idea that 2 bodies can't occupy the same space. However, unless you actually teleport INTO your past or future self, you're not really occupying the same space. No real paradox there. Even if you did manage to have the 2 bodies overlap, the human body is 99% empty space. The odds of an actual paradox are super slim thanks to the uncertainty principle.<p> <p> - There's also the Multiple Worlds theory. Of course you can change the past. However, the moment you do, you automatically create a splinter reality. That's the Back to the Future version of time travel. So, in essence, you DID change the past, but now it's impossible to return to your future unless you go back before the change and leave from there.<p> <p> <p> Personally, I have a hard time in believing that the Grandfather Paradox prevents changes to the past. That almost assumes predestination, at least to the extent that past events cannot be changed - from the perspective of a future time traveler. In that case.... Time travel sucks. Why go into the past if all you can do is watch. For that, you may as watch home movies on IMax.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:58 p.m. CST

    karatemedia

    by strosmer

    Yes. I'm of the exact same feeling as you are. Not completely disappointed in the series as a whole, and will reserve final judgment until the series finale. I just have this bad feeling, ya know? That's gonna be a feat of writing to pull of a satisfactory ending. Here's hoping for the best.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Locke

    by Ryan30

    In season 1, Walt had a vision of Locke with one white eye and one black. Widmore said that there was a war coming and Locke had to be there to make sure the right side won. I think Jacob is gone from that body after Ben's attack and he will now possess the body of Locke that was brought in by his shadow of the statue followers. So, next year there will be two Lockes possessed by the two angels/demons/gods. Since episode 4, The Walkabout, in season one I have been so impressed with Locke's character that I renamed him The Man and he was the main reason I have loved this show so much for 5 years. Unfortunately, The Man is dead and even though the actor will probably be playing 2 roles next year, it is not what I wanted for that character and I am extremely dissapointed.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:59 p.m. CST

    All of those Significant People

    by ooggbboo

    Good episode, started strong stayed that way. Still, I'm pretty fucking sick of that whole "the person you had a brush with in the past is a Significant Person" that the writers keep trotting out. If this show went for 10 more seasons, literally everyone Jack ever encountered would have some mystical significance. Jack: I'd like an ice cream cone please! Anubis: Here you go son. Jack: Now I want to ride the rollercoaster! Megatron: Sorry son, you must be this tall to ride.

  • May 13, 2009, 10:59 p.m. CST

    I dont think i eve beat one of those Myst games...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ..they were fucking hard as shit.

  • May 13, 2009, 11 p.m. CST

    RIP Juliet's cans

    by D.Vader

    God I really hope not.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Zom-bot.com that killed the Juliet scene for me as well!

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    They had one of the best emotional scene in the finale and they kinda blew it!

  • May 13, 2009, 11:01 p.m. CST

    christian cant be the same guy posing as locke

    by adzigjo

    or can he? i mean, locke does go away when sun and the pilot are in the room with Christian when he tells them that their in 1977....so who knows

  • May 13, 2009, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Ben still gained his trust issues from the shooting

    by D.Vader

    He doesn't remember it happening, but I bet subconsciously, that's where his trust issues start.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Now that I think about it the first season

    by CherryValance

    definitely seemed to be about good and evil. But it's been so long ago and the show's been so scientific that I forgot about all the black and white stuff and thinking Aaron was the anti-Christ, etc. If they're making mirror seasons and season 6 is supposed to be like season 1 it makes sense that it will be about good and evil again. And Claire is supposed to be coming back right? Hmm...

  • May 13, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    "Why go into the past if all you can do is watch."

    by Royston Lodge

    My answer: To find out if history was recorded correctly. Sure, you can't change the past, but what if you find out that the past didn't actually happen the way history records it. You could profit from that knowledge, even if you cannot change the history books.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    If Darlton said No Time Travel in Season 6

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    Does that mean some of the cast NEVER go back to 2007? Were Hurley and Sayid still on the Beach when the nuke went off or were they in the van? I can't remember?

  • May 13, 2009, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Do you think Locke knows he's not Locke?

    by D.Vader

    He seemed to act like Locke... knowing who everyone was, having Locke's memories... <p> Do we think he's like a Cylon? He thinks he's Locke but he's really possessed?

  • May 13, 2009, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Are we really

    by NormanOsborne

    certain that the white light was actually the bomb going off, and not just the energy under the Swan being released?

  • May 13, 2009, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Googled some Latin (and added guesses)

    by Colegegraduit

    I googled Ille qui nos omnes servabit and a latin scholar insists it’s “He who will save all of us," adding that "Nos omnes is objective, servabit is third person singular.” As for Locke: I always wondered if or when that actor would be able to return to his “The Stepfather 1, 2 and 3” villain roots that I remember him most by, so now he'll have the chance. As for the “loophole”: I always thought that anyone working for the island was not able to do anything unless so ordered by someone else. Ben could not kill Charles Widmore. Richard seemingly is everyone’s gopher bitch on command. If they’re asked they do it and if they want it to happen well tough shit. One more thought: if dead is dead, then every person we’ve seen on this island who is dead has been this Faux Locke guy. The guy trying to get Hurley to kill himself, Eko’s brother who seemed friendly then basically told Eko to F.O.; Faux Locke telling Richard to tell Real Locke he must die, Faux (!) Christian Shepherd telling Real Locke again, yep, he has to die, and so on. Yikes! That’s what I get out of it anyway. Everything else is just conjecture. For one thing: maybe this is where Desmond is needed by the island again, where they did indeed do something to the timeline though Desmond, who is "special" according to Dan Faraday, is probably is the only person who realizes something’s fracked up. That’s theory #1. Theory number two is that “they are coming” means that Jack Kate Sayid Miles Hurley and the gang are coming back to the present though not as you once knew them. Maybe they turn into green giants when pissed or something though they just got zapped with radiation and in any comic book story if you survive radiation you’re a total bad ass. Third thing: I am soooo glad that the alternate faux spoiler I read was bullocks; you know, the one where a "stage hand" insisted they saw Locke beat up someone to become leader and out came 70 year old Kate, Jack, Jin, etc. Oddly enough; yes, that would’ve sucked worse than a nuclear bomb detonation. Oh and I think it’s pretty official that Rose and Bernard are the two “Adam and Eve” bodies in the cave because everybody else was at the hatch area. That's it for me until I rest and let it all sink in.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Locke isn't a cylon.

    by Royston Lodge

    I think it's pretty obvious that he's "The Deceiver".

  • May 13, 2009, 11:05 p.m. CST

    the Others

    by 35MinutesAgo

    are people who are deserving of Paradise. The Island is Paradise. Everyone else is still being tested, including Ben.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:06 p.m. CST

    I wanted to see Radzinsky get a metal pole through the head

    by D.Vader

    That arrogant fuckhead. <p> Though I was glad to see Phil get the fucking life stabbed outta him.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:06 p.m. CST

    re: karatemedia/usual suspects

    by manicfanatic

    Yeah, you're right. But I don't think they would make it that simple anyway. I'm just at a point, like the characters, where I take so many properties of the island for granted that I'm not even particularly interested anymore in where those properties derive from. And I'm pretty sure Darlton know where they're heading. I just think they got tripped up in the middle (see: nikki and paolo)

  • May 13, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    where was young tom?

    by adzigjo

  • May 13, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Why is it everytime J.J. Abrams and time travel mix...

    by cloneomat

    ...logical character motivation goes out the window?

  • May 13, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    re: normanosborne

    by manicfanatic

    no, we're not. but then again, I'm not sure who I am anymore.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST

    I love reading the reaction to "what's in the box"

    by D.Vader

    Ranging from "WHAT?!?!" to "WHAT THE FUCK?!?!" and "OH SHIT!" <p> Yeah, I was thinking all that at the same time. And then I got a very horrible feeling of dread.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Ryan30

    by karatemedia

    Locke v. Locke would be so very awesome.<p> I've really enjoyed the past season and which they had gotten here sooner, and saved the filler for now - then the next season could have been Jack kicking ass in Ancient Egypt and Locke battling himself, and just more creatively insane fun for a season, before reigning it back in for the final season. Tailies were boring, time jumping insanity was fun while it lasted.<p> If they could have gotten the version of Grant Morrison who wrote All Star Superman (who might also be the same version that wrote Animal Man) to write the next season of Lost, I would have given them that extra season of insanity, just so they could have fun with all of this.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Mraig

    by blhotz

    Thanks for the Greek lesson. But I disagree w/ you about your "view" on the time-travel thing. The show is obviously in the producers/creators hands. I think there is a good chance Jack and Company change stuff (who knows how much). The best clues for this is the "white light" and how Richard said he saw them die and from what we saw Richard was no where near them at the time of the "incident". We'll see. But the producers/creators can show us whatever and whenever so you can't really discuss time-travel theories based on what they "show us".

  • May 13, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST

    you have to see this

    by CherryValance

    http://i40.tinypic.com/2md52ef.jpg I don't know who did it. But it amused and confused me in such a strange way. LOL

  • May 13, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST

    It's the Bermuda Triangle

    by strosmer

    Right? Am I right? No, wait, purgatory. Definitely purgatory.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:11 p.m. CST

    "and WISH they had gotten here sooner"

    by karatemedia

    WHICH would have been nice if I hadn't made so many typos tonight. Sausage fingers.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:11 p.m. CST

    LOST is absolutely 100%

    by 35MinutesAgo

    the story of Jacob and Esau. <p> and it is excellent.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST

    LOCKE VS LOCKE

    by Sweet Action Hero

    would, without a doubt, be jumping the shark. or should i say, nuke the fridge.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST

    That rocked yet confused me...

    by Yeti

    So Jacob is a Christ like figure? Is the other with him, who ened up being a fake Locke Legion? Was the ship they were looking at the Black whatchyamacallit (I want to say Pearl but that's not it) Why did the statue look Eygptian? Vincent is still alive? I have to wait till next Jan to find out my answers???!

  • May 13, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST

    That rocked yet confused me...

    by Yeti

    So Jacob is a Christ like figure? Is the other with him, who ened up being a fake Locke Legion? Was the ship they were looking at the Black whatchyamacallit (I want to say Pearl but that's not it) Why did the statue look Eygptian? Vincent is still alive? I have to wait till next Jan to find out my answers???!

  • Previous seasons, LOST ends with "LOST" written in white on a black background. <p> Now it ends with "LOST" written in black on white background. <p> The tide has turned, the balance of power has shifted. <p> Jacob is dead.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST

    No mention of Jacob not meeting with Walt?

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    C'mon there has to be a reason for that. Hell Walt should've met Jacob before anyone!

  • May 13, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST

    Locke is dead is dead.

    by manicfanatic

    Sorry folks, nothing to see here but a very dead, very bald corpse.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:13 p.m. CST

    The nuke did cause the event

    by Castlemonster

    And next season we start over. Everyone who dies is alive but Esau must find another way to destroy Jacob where the game doesn't get reset.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:13 p.m. CST

    No one here has a scientific theory

    by Phil Connors

    to explain Jacob and Esau. Saying they're angels and demons, good vs. evil, smoke monsters, etc, isn't grounded on science - which the producers have state that EVERYTHING can be explained with science. God forbid they pull a Battlestar Galactica on us.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Oh, and time travel is science

    by Phil Connors

    but what the CAUSE of the time travel still eludes us.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST

    The Island is Bethel.

    by 35MinutesAgo

    I love you, LOST.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Colegegraduit

    by CherryValance

    "Faux Locke telling Richard to tell Real Locke he must die". Oh man. I could not figure that out after last episode. That scene was bugging the hell out of me. Wow. That just messes everything up doesn't it? Holy moley. How long has Faux Locke been at work? We're probably gonna have to rewatch all the episodes looking for Faux Locke.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Damnit, I don't want an evil Locke!

    by D.Vader

    I want good Locke back, ready to lead everyone to salvation! <p> Damn you Ben!

  • May 13, 2009, 11:15 p.m. CST

    re: phil connors

    by manicfanatic

    WOOO BOY, if you're expecting a scientific explanation out of this, well, good luck to ya.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:16 p.m. CST

    amen to Juliet's rack...

    by RipleyGrady

    well...maybe not so crudely, but although it seemed she was doomed from the start with her V pilot, I had this lingering feeling Hurley was the death (the only other red shirt). Oh well. Perhaps the ghostly knockers of Juliet will dissolve into next season.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:16 p.m. CST

    35MinutesAgo

    by Sweet Action Hero

    you would of had a fucking blast at catholic school.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:16 p.m. CST

    Sweet Action Hero

    by karatemedia

    The term is now "Nuke the Swan."<p> Locke v. Locke isn't as good an idea for the final season, butany other time, I would enjoy it very much, for at least 3-6 episodes.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:16 p.m. CST

    Desmond

    by x factor

    No FUCKING way can Desmond be gone! If so, I'm crying foul. They've been setting him up since he was introduced as the lynchpin to this whole affair. HE'S the special one, remember? I think he has to return. Penny? Not so sure. Didn't I see her as a character in the ad for one of those new fall shows? Anyhoo.. While I'm on the subject, I agree with whomever said a- Jacob is NOT dead (com'on, the guy is ageless, can resurect people and speaks any language he pleases, but a knife and a little fire kill him? Nope, don't buy it. b- We will get Locke v Locke action next year. Somehow Jabob will either revive the real Locke, or he'll transfer into Lockes carcuss. Didn't you see how freaked Evil Locke was when Jacob said "They're coming"? I think he was refering to "the good guys". Which means (da da da DA) that if THEY'RE good, so is Charles Widmore??? Shit, I need a valium.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Damnit Locke you were supposed to be special!

    by D.Vader

    Not an evil vessel!

  • May 13, 2009, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Read about the Sons of Jacob...

    by 35MinutesAgo

    and i think that'll solve the jack/locke dilemma.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Maybe Jacob and Esau are aliens

    by Castlemonster

    But regardless, next season starts it all over again with Esau trying to find a way to break out of the time loop and kill Jacob once and for all. The bomb triggered the event and reset the events of Lost.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:19 p.m. CST

    The Loophole?

    by BeornsRevenge

    So the loophole is that Esau couldn't kill Jacob directly had to get a normal to do it. And because Jacob didn't put up a fight was because he couldn't or wouldn't put up a fight. But then if we assume Esau and Jacob are the same type of being, then couldn't the Losties just kill Esau/Locke without him fighting back?

  • May 13, 2009, 11:19 p.m. CST

    obviously he's been faux locke ever since...

    by DrBrianOblivion

    ..his return to the island. Ilana said that they found his body in the cargo hold of the plane. And Claires message of Dont you dare bring him back here refering to Locke just really fucking confuses me.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:19 p.m. CST

    And please, get off the "Everything explained by science" kick

    by D.Vader

    Let. <p> It. <p> GO.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:20 p.m. CST

    i thoroughly hate religion, actually.

    by 35MinutesAgo

    but it's entertaining as FUCK.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Can mexican coke bring locke back from the dead?

    by Sweet Action Hero

  • May 13, 2009, 11:20 p.m. CST

    @Phil Connors...very poor understanding..of the big picture.

    by MacFaux

    "I find your lack of faith disturbing"<br><br> There is a common mis-understanding that the notion of God is only about churches and spaghetti monsters.<br><br> God is Science and Science is God. Albert Einstein and the guy at LAX in the sheet with the flowers who smelled of bean curd...said so.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:20 p.m. CST

    Claire moved the ashes...

    by gdog78

    that explains why she was hanging out in the cabin.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:21 p.m. CST

    If all the Dead People are Smokey

    by cymbalta4thedevil

    and Smokey can only appear as one person at a time...<br /> <br />Then the Claire in Jacob's cabin with Christian...<br /> <br />is still alive.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:21 p.m. CST

    jorges just killed it on kimmel

    by livahd

    my hair is curly. replace the c with an h. hurley. suck it.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:21 p.m. CST

    and btw...

    by x factor

    WHO GIVES A FUCK IF IT CAN'T BE EXPLAINED BY "SCIENCE"??? It's a great show. If they bring in a little celestial stuff just fucking enjoy it and quit triping! ABC isn't questioning your agnostic beliefs but making God and Satan characters in a friggin TV show. (IF that is indeed who they are!) My gracious, haters.PLEASE get over yourselves!

  • May 13, 2009, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Walt and his dream about Locke

    by D.Vader

    "You were back at on the Island on a beach. And all these people were standing around you. They wanted to hurt you, John." <p> Is this what happens next? When he steps out of the statue's foot?

  • May 13, 2009, 11:22 p.m. CST

    "They're coming."

    by Castlemonster

    "They" are the other aliens!

  • May 13, 2009, 11:23 p.m. CST

    walt was special,

    by Sweet Action Hero

    desmond was special, locke was special. and no fucking payoffs? this is bullshit.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:23 p.m. CST

    can somebody translate the Latin answer...

    by 35MinutesAgo

    to "what lies under the shadow of the statue"?.... because i think it might be a clue as to what the Others believe that Locke really is.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:23 p.m. CST

    The Dead People are NOT Smokey

    by D.Vader

    They are something else. The Walking Dead as manipulated by Bocaj. <p> That's why we NEVER saw Smokey turn into Alex. Seriously, why the fuck would Smokey go back into his hole, only to just magically "teleport" and reappear behind him as Alex? <p> We've NEVER seen Smokey just disappear or teleport before. <p> So its my belief that the Manipulated dead are NOT Smokey.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:24 p.m. CST

    "??? ?? ?? ???" indeed

    by tbransonlives

    So Bocaj/Esau finally killed jacob, but Juliet setting off the nuke negates his death? Were the "it's a time loop" people right? Did Jacob know this was going to happen and it was his failsafe?

  • May 13, 2009, 11:24 p.m. CST

    Matthew Fox is on tonight

    by CherryValance

    but Jimmy said he didn't watch the episode yet. I was hoping he'd watched it so he could ask decent questions.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:24 p.m. CST

    Phil Connors: Explains the white ending.

    by Royston Lodge

    Up until now, everything has been scientific. But in the final season, after the Bizarro "Lost" logo that closes out this episode, the show turns a corner and goes all religulous on us.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:25 p.m. CST

    regarding science

    by evildeadron

    at this point, i dont want everything to be explained easily by science, i want the final season to go bat shit insane and go out in epic or even biblical proportions if need be, thats the only thing that will be satisfying...god/devil, jacob/esau, 2 gay aliens having a lovers quarrel, i dont care just make it crazy

  • May 13, 2009, 11:25 p.m. CST

    Loved it!

    by Helpful Electronic Lab Partner Robot

    I don't have any problems with Juliet at the end - The bomb always went off in '77, and the island healed her enough for that to happen. <br><br> I wonder who the 'principal cast' will be for S6 - Jack, Sawyer, Kate, Hurley, Sun, Jin, 'Locke', Claire, Ben, Miles are assumed (right?). I can't help but wonder just how much screen time Claire, Des, the 3 Widmores, Frank, Richard, Ilana, and the chronic masturbator from Choke will have, considering there will be no S7 to fall back on...

  • May 13, 2009, 11:26 p.m. CST

    HEY! can anyone?

    by El Borak

    can anyone transpose the begininig dialogue between jacob and the other dude and POST IT HERE?

  • May 13, 2009, 11:26 p.m. CST

    maybe 'special' means

    by CherryValance

    retarded

  • May 13, 2009, 11:26 p.m. CST

    2 gay aliens.

    by Royston Lodge

    That's a resolution I would prefer to this whole The Stand rip-off.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:27 p.m. CST

    blhotz

    by mraig

    Obviously the producers can show us whatever they want, and they can tell their stories any way they want, even if it doesn't make sense to me or I don't agree with their logic. <P> But my point is this: Locke and Richard in 2007 are living 30 years in the future from Jack and Sawyer. Richard Alpert remembers being there with them, there's photos of them--this future that we're watching is THE FUTURE of the 1977 we're witnessing alongside the 2007 scenes. Because none of the characters are traveling through time anymore, nothing that Jack can do can alter the version of the 2007 future that we're watching. <P> If we weren't also watching the Locke 2007 scenes, I wouldn't have this argument. There's nothing from Jack's point of view that makes his plan impossible (except for the fact that it would create a grandfather paradox style problem, but that's a whole different story, and not what I'm trying to argue now). <P> The reason that we're tricked into believing that Jack might be able to change the future--which would somehow magically make Locke and Sun and everybody disappear--is because the episodes are being presented with the 2007 timeline intercut with the 1977 timeline. That causes us to interpret these storylines as somehow happening at the same time--as if they were in different places instead of different times. We imagine that, from Sun's point of view, Jin is stuck in 1977 "right now", for example. But there's no logical reason to view the mechanics of it that way. All this Jack/Sawyer/Kate/bomb stuff *is* the past that leads to the 2007 we've been seeing. If it weren't, this 2007 with Locke back on the island (and with Jack in the historical record as having been there in 1977) would never have existed.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:27 p.m. CST

    fade to white...............

    by NapPark

    "POOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

  • May 13, 2009, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Why they fight/Esau wants to kill all of us:

    by manicfanatic

    I was just thinking about that first dialogue (or argument, rather) between Jacob and Esau. They weren't just talking about the people that come to the island. They were talking about humanity in general. Esau sees humanity as repeating an endless cycle of bloodshed (see: end of episode) while Jacob recognizes the progress we make towards becoming a better people after every major conflict. I think Esau drew up all the lists of the righteous so that he can cleanse the world of evil while Jacob respects our right to choose. So it's not really as cut-and-dry as good vs. evil. It's what to do with a world filled with sin and pain and death and fear and corruption, etc., etc. However, we see throughout the episode Jacob putting his pieces into place. I think he anticipated his own demise, but he compensated for that. The rest of Lost will find the losties and others banding together to overthrow Esau.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:27 p.m. CST

    And the irony of the God storyline haters...hmmph. Too funny.

    by MacFaux

    Seems someone thought of that way back when:<br><br> Malachi 1 - A Message. God's Word to Israel through Malachi:<br><br>God said, "I love you." You replied, "Really? How have you loved us?" "Look at history" (this is God's answer). "Look at how differently I've treated you, Jacob, from Esau: I loved Jacob and hated Esau. I reduced pretentious Esau to a molehill, turned his whole country into a ghost town."<Br><br> "Why doesn't one of you just shut the Temple doors and lock them? Then none of you can get in and play at religion with this silly, empty-headed worship. I am not pleased. The God-of-the-Angel-Armies is not pleased. And I don't want any more of this so-called worship!<br><br> Instead of honoring me, you profane me. You profane me when you say, 'Worship is not important, and what we bring to worship is of no account,' and when you say, 'I'm bored—this doesn't do anything for me.' You act so superior, sticking your noses in the air—act superior to me, God-of-the-Angel-Armies! And when you do offer something to me, it's a hand-me-down, or broken, or useless. Do you think I'm going to accept it? <br><br>This is DARLTON speaking to you!<br><br><br> I may have misremembered that last part...

  • May 13, 2009, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Jacob = Jack

    by 35MinutesAgo

    that is all.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:27 p.m. CST

    I'm telling you the story starts right back over again.

    by Castlemonster

    That's why Jacob wasn't worried about being killed. He set it up so that the others would bring the bomb to the drill site and reset the game with the detonation.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:27 p.m. CST

    Lost = Paradise Lost?

    by atman

    Someone has to have mentioned this before, but could Lost be a modern retelling of Milton's Paradise Lost? If the whole thing is a pseudo Biblical allegory, then the island would be the garden of Eden, the smoke monster is the serpent and Bocaj isn't Bocaj, he's Esau (Brother of Jacob) and/or Lucifer. A theory I've had for several seasons is that Richard is the wandering Jew from European folklore. He was a man who taunted Christ on the way to the cross until Jesus turned around and said "All right, I'll hurry up, but you'll still be here when I return." This would explain Richard's immortality. Most events on the show have no one to one coorelation with Biblcal myth, but the basic themes of familial good vs. evil are certainly present, and after tonights episode, I am convinced that Abrams (a shortening of Abraham's - hint hint) has something more literary in mind than a simple sci-fi fable.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:28 p.m. CST

    The Ankhs were a nice touch

    by BeornsRevenge

    The statue was holding an ankh in each hand, which was the Egyptian symbol for Eternal Life.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:28 p.m. CST

    @MacFaux

    by Phil Connors

    So when the producers say every mystery can be explained with science, and then comes around at the end saying God IS science, that somehow is acceptable to you? Don't get me wrong, I know what you're talking about, it's just that the producers DID say they can explain everything, including the smoke monster, with science. If they're coming at me with the yin and the Yang, the I Ching, God and the Devil, yada yada as their version of science, rest assured there will be A LOT of disappointed people.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Couple of Things...

    by Thomas Stone

    Lock is probably just dead. Even Richard said that he went back to the main land three seperate times to "interview" Locke and never found anything special about him. His corpse was found in the coffin on the plane where it was all along. When Bocaj/Esau/Faux Locke was in the statue of Tawaret at the end of the episode, Jacob seemed to know that it was not John Locke standing there (refering to ther opening scene comments), thus, John Locke is dead. Also, alot of these theorys that are being posted are great reads, but one key character in the LOST story is being left out and is bound to make an impact next season, Aaron. Based on what we know fron the psychic in season 1, Aaron could end up being someone/something to be feard. How do you think Aaron will fit in and change the story next season?

  • May 13, 2009, 11:29 p.m. CST

    tbransonlives

    by Castlemonster

    YES!

  • May 13, 2009, 11:30 p.m. CST

    No online adventure game...

    by zacdilone

    ...to keep us wasting time for the summer? That's too bad.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:30 p.m. CST

    that probably could have been more eloquent (read: coherent)

    by manicfanatic

    but I'm drunk. So deal with it.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:31 p.m. CST

    But couldn't Christian just convince Locke to kill Jacob?

    by D.Vader

    Or was this allllllll setup because there was no other time in which Christian could visit Locke? <p> If Christian was Bocaj, why tell Locke to move the Island? Why not tell him to kill Jacob?

  • May 13, 2009, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Star Trek

    by SwedishChef

    The new Star Trek was made by the same creative team. That story allowed that people can alter future events via time travel to the past. Look no further than that. Things will change for the losties come next season. Writers generally stick to the same concepts in their writing. Peace.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:31 p.m. CST

    BeornsRevenge

    by Rob0729

    My take is the loophole is moving the island. Esau masquerading as Christian in season 4 told John to move the island. That set off a series of events that led to Jacob's death including:<br><br> 1.) Ben being banished from the island. I am guessing that Ben being the banished leader returning was the only one who could kill Jacob. 2.) Esau masquerading as John tricked Richard into telling John that he had to bring everyone back including Ben and that he had to die to get them back (allowing Esau to pretend to be John on their return). Also, this trick made Richard trust John enough to bring John to Jacob and make Ben hate Jacob for not being the chosen one.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Speculating about Aaron...

    by Royston Lodge

    Aaron turns out to be the reincarnation of someone important, like Jacob, or maybe Neo!

  • May 13, 2009, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Castlemonster

    by tbransonlives

    Yay! In that case, Greatest show ever in the fucking world!

  • May 13, 2009, 11:33 p.m. CST

    @Royster

    by Phil Connors

    I hope you're joking.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:33 p.m. CST

    @El Borak..Opening Dialogue..the Jist.

    by MacFaux

    Two Sides..One Light. One Dark.<br><br> A certain sly nod in Jacob offering Esau some fish. Ans Esau answering he already ate...as the last time Jacob offered Esau some food...it didn't work out to well for Esau.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Cans

    by NapPark

    Let's hope Ms. Mitchell's pilot gets picked up, because that what she was hoping all the way down.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:34 p.m. CST

    re: thomas stone

    by manicfanatic

    well, the biblical Aaron was a descendant of Jacob. Maybe he's the heir apparent. But then what does that imply about the family Shepherd?

  • May 13, 2009, 11:35 p.m. CST

    So, Ricardus is Latin for Richard?

    by D.Vader

  • May 13, 2009, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Oh, and PS

    by manicfanatic

    WHERE THE FUCK IS WALT? Seriously, I used to think he was the key to this whole thing.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:37 p.m. CST

    I enjoyed this episode a great deal.

    by NapPark

    I really did. Nice to see that Rose and Bernard (and Vincent) had a three year happy ending while everyone else was thrashing about.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:38 p.m. CST

    Jacob is kind of a loser

    by twogunjames

    SO, he leaves the island and involves himself in small moments in the lives of the people on the island, but he TELLS Hurley which plane to get one. Or, with Locke, a big moment. WHY? I didn't see a lot of point to that shit given that these folks didn't seem to have any real bearing on Locke and Ben going to the foot. Who the fuck lives in a foot?

  • May 13, 2009, 11:38 p.m. CST

    The First Evil

    by cookepuss

    I was wondering why the whole dead/alive Locke thing seemed familiar. Lost made "Esau" The First Evil from Buffy. Both could only seemingly take the form of dead people or some demonic thing, smoke monster in the case of Lost.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:39 p.m. CST

    And Locke being dead

    by twogunjames

    Fucking SUCKS by the way.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Jacob is the middle name of (J.J. Abrams).

    by El Borak

    According to the Jewish teachings in the Midrash, the ladder signified the exiles which the Jewish people would suffer before the coming of the Messiah. The top step on the ladder is supposedly guarded by a vision of Esau and represents Edom which God assures Jacob will be brought down at the End of Days.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Phil Connors: Yes, I was joking.

    by Royston Lodge

  • May 13, 2009, 11:39 p.m. CST

    The bomb FIXES the Incident

    by D.Vader

    Think about it- the bomb going off is what stops all the electromagnetic discharge. Its what allows DHARMA to regain control and institute the button pushing. <p> Radzinsky, you're a douche.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:40 p.m. CST

    SwedishChef

    by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World

    Star trek was written by the writers of the shitty Transformers movie, and directed by JJ Abrams, who has nothing to do with Lost other than directing the pilot and coming up with an initial, vague, "scripted survivor" outline for the series concept. I don't know why people keep bringing up his name with Lost.

  • May 13, 2009, 11:42 p.m. CST

    Pierre Chang regains control of his arm

    by D.Vader

    Because he can obviously use it in the Pearl Station