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The First(?) Review Of TERMINATOR SALVATION...
SPOILER ALERT !!
Merrick here...
This is the first review of TERMINATOR SALVATION I recall seeing anywhere. If I've missed something, or forgotten something, please feel free to correct me in the Talkbacks below.
Will McG prove everyone wrong? Did poor Shane Hurlbut's hardships pay off?
Read on...and BEWARE SPOILAGE!!
Hey there,
I just went to see a prescreening of Terminator Salvation today. And well, I figured I would tell you a little about it, seeing as I hadn’t seen much about the movie yet as a whole.
I want to say that I went into this movie, not with the biggest expectations, mostly because I didn’t like how the third instalment of this series turned out. But also because, frankly, I wasn’t sure I felt McG was the right person to handle this movie. Maybe because of my low expectations, I actually came out of the cinema quite uplifted and hopeful. This isn’t as convincingly done as the Batman reboot with Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale, but I felt it was a good beginning for this storyline.
First a little spoiler alert, as I will go through a small recap of the movie.
The story of Terminator Salvation starts out with Marcus (Sam Worthington) who after killing his brother and 2 cops are sitting on death row on the day of his execution, in 2003 if I remember correctly.
With him is Serena (Helena Bonham Carter), who is trying to convince him to sign his body over to her research. Apparently some cancer research, but the company on the top of the page he signs is Cyberdyne systems. This plotline is pretty much the one that carries the movie, as Sam Worthington simply put is the actual lead of this movie. He is also the one that I think McG gets the best performance out of.
I was very surprised and quite happy about this character as a whole. The lead on the page is of course John Connor (Christian Bale), which we find in 2018, jumping out of a helicopter in a lead strike on a Skynet facility. Our first perception is that this is the guy in charge, but we find out that he is yet to become head of the resistance at this point. He is in charge of a group of the resistance, but in a secret hideaway sits the actual resistance command structure.
John Connor however is someone that people look up to, as he instills spirit and will to live and go on, by airing his thoughts and knowledge over the radio waves for everyone who will listen. Marcus wakes up in 2018 somewhat frightened at first, but quickly gets his mind into figuring out whats going on. He bumps into teenager Kyle Reese, who is the one sent back in time in Terminator 1 to rescue Sarah Connor, and who becomes the father of John Connor. This in itself is quite a time paradox, so don’t start trying to figure out how all this time travel works, just accept it as a cool storyline. With them is also a young girl called Star.
Marcus ends up taking them with him in their effort to get out of LA. Kyle and Star is captured by Skynet and Marcus wants to go break them out. He manages to come upon Blair, a member of Connors resistance group, and eventually persuades him to help in a rescue attempt at the Skynet main facility, and this is where things start to get heated, as Connor is led into a trap. Basically the movie revolves around Marcus coming to terms with who and what he is, and that is something you need to find out for yourselves by seeing this movie.
I am not saying it is a big whopper of a reveal, but frankly, Id rather tell you about the feeling of the movie and how well it is done instead.
There are a bunch of other castmembers, amongst others Bryce Dallas Howard as Kate Connor, Michael Ironside as General Ashdown, who all help our majors along, but as I mentioned above Sam Worthington carries much of this movie. Theres also cameos in voice by Linda Hamilton and appearance by Schwarzenegger. And for my tastes certainly the latter is a cool moment. I am sure it will be talked about, but it was nice to see him, even for a brief moment.
As for the directing, I find that the action is well executed. However the smaller moments, in which we get to know our characters, isn’t all well done. I believe the best performance is by Sam. The guy playing Kyle Reese, doesn’t do a bad job either. In general the acting is good. I however felt Christian Bales performance to be a little over the top at times. I must say he was propably also the one I had the highest expectations of, and so was the one that would have the biggest job of pulling this off. I cant say if it’s the way John Connor is written or acted, or maybe just the way it all was cut together, but Ive seen better from Bale.
Action is the keyword for this movie, which of course most people who goes to see this franchise will be expecting. I found that it had a little too much action, so that our characters wasn’t told in a way, that we could really bond with them. It lacked some more small moments of quiet interaction. The effects, however, are well done. Theres a bunch of new Terminators, very nice high tech stuff.. It’s a barren world, after the nuclear attacks. It contrasts nicely with the future we see in Terminator 2, where it is all night scenes. In this movie, there are not that many night scenes, and it just feels right, to show the world in this battleworn way, in full daylight.
The last thing I will touch upon, is the music. I usually enjoy soundtracks from all kinds of movies, and I did like the steel on steel sounds that has been with Terminator at least since Terminator 2. I wasn’t expecting great new music I could listen to at any time, but I usually am very fond of Danny Elfmans work, and thought it at times was too loud and big for the movie. Sometimes less is more, and for me, that would have been preferable this time around.
All in all I came out of the cinema with the belief that we may still have great stories from the Terminator universe, and that we at least have a fine piece of action movie, with the potential for a good story arc.
If you choose to use this, you may call me Gandalf The Grey. :-)
By the way, "the guy playing Kyle Reese"? It's Anton Yelchin - Chekov in the new TREK movie.
And Michael Ironside makes anything he's in a little more badass...
I just went to see a prescreening of Terminator Salvation today. And well, I figured I would tell you a little about it, seeing as I hadn’t seen much about the movie yet as a whole.
I want to say that I went into this movie, not with the biggest expectations, mostly because I didn’t like how the third instalment of this series turned out. But also because, frankly, I wasn’t sure I felt McG was the right person to handle this movie. Maybe because of my low expectations, I actually came out of the cinema quite uplifted and hopeful. This isn’t as convincingly done as the Batman reboot with Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale, but I felt it was a good beginning for this storyline.
First a little spoiler alert, as I will go through a small recap of the movie.
The story of Terminator Salvation starts out with Marcus (Sam Worthington) who after killing his brother and 2 cops are sitting on death row on the day of his execution, in 2003 if I remember correctly.
With him is Serena (Helena Bonham Carter), who is trying to convince him to sign his body over to her research. Apparently some cancer research, but the company on the top of the page he signs is Cyberdyne systems. This plotline is pretty much the one that carries the movie, as Sam Worthington simply put is the actual lead of this movie. He is also the one that I think McG gets the best performance out of.
I was very surprised and quite happy about this character as a whole. The lead on the page is of course John Connor (Christian Bale), which we find in 2018, jumping out of a helicopter in a lead strike on a Skynet facility. Our first perception is that this is the guy in charge, but we find out that he is yet to become head of the resistance at this point. He is in charge of a group of the resistance, but in a secret hideaway sits the actual resistance command structure.
John Connor however is someone that people look up to, as he instills spirit and will to live and go on, by airing his thoughts and knowledge over the radio waves for everyone who will listen. Marcus wakes up in 2018 somewhat frightened at first, but quickly gets his mind into figuring out whats going on. He bumps into teenager Kyle Reese, who is the one sent back in time in Terminator 1 to rescue Sarah Connor, and who becomes the father of John Connor. This in itself is quite a time paradox, so don’t start trying to figure out how all this time travel works, just accept it as a cool storyline. With them is also a young girl called Star.
Marcus ends up taking them with him in their effort to get out of LA. Kyle and Star is captured by Skynet and Marcus wants to go break them out. He manages to come upon Blair, a member of Connors resistance group, and eventually persuades him to help in a rescue attempt at the Skynet main facility, and this is where things start to get heated, as Connor is led into a trap. Basically the movie revolves around Marcus coming to terms with who and what he is, and that is something you need to find out for yourselves by seeing this movie.
I am not saying it is a big whopper of a reveal, but frankly, Id rather tell you about the feeling of the movie and how well it is done instead.
There are a bunch of other castmembers, amongst others Bryce Dallas Howard as Kate Connor, Michael Ironside as General Ashdown, who all help our majors along, but as I mentioned above Sam Worthington carries much of this movie. Theres also cameos in voice by Linda Hamilton and appearance by Schwarzenegger. And for my tastes certainly the latter is a cool moment. I am sure it will be talked about, but it was nice to see him, even for a brief moment.
As for the directing, I find that the action is well executed. However the smaller moments, in which we get to know our characters, isn’t all well done. I believe the best performance is by Sam. The guy playing Kyle Reese, doesn’t do a bad job either. In general the acting is good. I however felt Christian Bales performance to be a little over the top at times. I must say he was propably also the one I had the highest expectations of, and so was the one that would have the biggest job of pulling this off. I cant say if it’s the way John Connor is written or acted, or maybe just the way it all was cut together, but Ive seen better from Bale.
Action is the keyword for this movie, which of course most people who goes to see this franchise will be expecting. I found that it had a little too much action, so that our characters wasn’t told in a way, that we could really bond with them. It lacked some more small moments of quiet interaction. The effects, however, are well done. Theres a bunch of new Terminators, very nice high tech stuff.. It’s a barren world, after the nuclear attacks. It contrasts nicely with the future we see in Terminator 2, where it is all night scenes. In this movie, there are not that many night scenes, and it just feels right, to show the world in this battleworn way, in full daylight.
The last thing I will touch upon, is the music. I usually enjoy soundtracks from all kinds of movies, and I did like the steel on steel sounds that has been with Terminator at least since Terminator 2. I wasn’t expecting great new music I could listen to at any time, but I usually am very fond of Danny Elfmans work, and thought it at times was too loud and big for the movie. Sometimes less is more, and for me, that would have been preferable this time around.
All in all I came out of the cinema with the belief that we may still have great stories from the Terminator universe, and that we at least have a fine piece of action movie, with the potential for a good story arc.
If you choose to use this, you may call me Gandalf The Grey. :-)
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...but it sure smells good!
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Have you not seen the Batman flicks?
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There is no God.
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It's a review that's not a fucking review.
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It's everywhere but AICN. So, if AICN doesn't like Wolverine then it ignores Deadpool? You guys fucking suck. Ryan as Deadpool is one of the best superhero movie ideas in a long fucking time.
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..when I first heard bale do the batman voice in "'Begins."hysterical! but we soon came to love it!
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She is the only reason I watched The Sarah Connor Chronicles.
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I wonder how many pop culture references will be in this film? Maybe L.L. Cool J can start the film off only to surprise us by ripping his mask off and revealing a T-800 exoskeleton underneath?
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May 06, 2009 8:31:51 PM CDT
If you already read the Deadpool greenlight. piece...
by willardgreensthunderballs
...then why do you need to read it again here? Who needs Deadpool when we have Bale Connor??
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...that Common and a Terminator have a fistfight.
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ALL THE INFORMATION HAS BEEN COVERED BEFORE,AND ALL THE STORY POINTS ARE FROM THE SET VISIT REPORT FROM COMING SOON.TOTAL BULLSHIT
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i mean anyone who has seen previews, read IMDB or anything at all about the movie knows all of this already. i'm saying this is a vague and carefully worded fake. they haven't told me anything i didn't already know from coming here.
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is one of the best superhero movie ideas in a long time? really? would you care to rank them? 'cause I've got deadpool somewhere between catwoman and the two punisher flicks, perhaps tied with my super ex-girlfriend.
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Treat an action movie the way a model treats their face: you've got to allow the pores (pause) to breathe! Otherwise nothing sticks in our minds. And by pause, I don't mean stop for a little bit of exposition and then cut straight back to the 'splosions. The best action movies have little scenes that have fuck all to do with the arc of the plot but everything to do with making you give a shit whether the characters live or die. Even fireworks displays throw in the occasional Roman Candle.
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period...end of sentence...Kobe is gonna take a dump on the Rockets tonight
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I don't totally agree. Quantum of Solace was all about making excuses for the next action sequence, and I dug it more than it's relationship-driven (?) predecessor. If it kicks ass, it kicks ass.
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is really not that awesome.
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and bring to houston. kobe should take a few more percocet cause his ass is gonna be sore....gonna be a fucking late night
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hey there i went to see a prescreening of terminator today.........FUCK OFF
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or EMPIRE OF THE SUN recently...weird watching a young BALE knowing what he morphs into later in life..everyone has a destiny
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What was the heavy spoiler?????
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Empire of the Sun is actually my favorite film. I saw it about 3 weeks ago. Even at that young pure age, I get that sense that Bale would have fisted the actress that played his Mother if he had more time alone with her.
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you should be worshipping him and not that tin god, Bale. I will burn Bale's churches, and urinate on his altar! Then I will sacrifice ten goats on a burning pyre of Bale photographs! Who knows if this is a real review or not; however, it's about what I expected - a forgettable summer action flick with precious little character time. bleh! one good thing - it says Sam Worthington is the best thing in it - which bodes well for his performance in Avatar. Amen, JC, I prostrate myself before thee!
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This guy is future Hollywood greatness in the making.
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May 06, 2009 8:55:05 PM CDT
CREEPYTHINMAN STRIKES AGAIN SUCKERS HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!FACT!!!
by returnofthecreepythinman
It's amazing how easy you fucking fall for my bullshit :)
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all of the expectations from this kid from all kinds of fans all over. Hell of a brave soul, i think he'll pull off both roles successfully.
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James Cameron is King Of The World?
Bullshit! - He's a pussy!
McG is going to go fucking total destruction on the Terminator franchise. -
Not because it was a positive review, but because everything in it has been posted online many times.
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But that might partially be because no one warned me I'd need to take 50 ritalin tabs before I walked in. And for a movie that relied so heavily on action, the action was pretty forgettable. That car chase must have been one of the most uninspired openings for a Bond movie I've seen in decades. Props for trying to do something different than Casino Royale (which I loved), but I don't think it worked.
Then again, it seems to me that us Limeys generally disliked QOS, while y'all Americans loved it.
I'm not gonna pretend that everyone should have my taste and call anyone a "moron" for disagreeing with me though, like I know a few other talkbackers would. -
May 06, 2009 9:02:38 PM CDT
Anton Yelchin is good at blowing casting directors and Doberman'
by returnofthecreepythinman
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Some may call it "overperformance", but the man does know how to create a character.
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This review reads exactly like the extended synopsis on IESB.com. Nothing new was presented in this person’s review. I still stand by the fact that Christian Bale is great, but not even he can save a Terminator movie that has been castrated by McG and has a PG-13 rating!
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Hopefully it will be as good as the trailers.
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May 06, 2009 9:07:10 PM CDT
I'M JOHN CONNOR AND IF YOU'RE LISTENING TO THIS....
by returnofthecreepythinman
DON'T JUST STARE AT IT, EAT IT!!!
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yeah...
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Could it be that you've all decided you've got better things to do than start a shrine on someone simply because he had a bit of a tiff?
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We should have a write a fake review contest- an AICN talkbacker needs to write a fake review and send it in, it should be very green first one that gets on here wins.
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You try acting while some guy is always messing around with the lights! He's a nice guy, but come on!
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That is all.
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A mental picture Im going to be shuddering to involuntarily all night long *splorchsplorchsplorch...shudder*
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PLANT!
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so far ive liked the trailers.looks good to me,just hope they dont screw up the ending.
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Ok...I usually agree with most of the main guys' reviews on this site. However, i don't understand why everyone hates Terminator 3. Everyone worships part 2, and it's a GREAT movie, but I think most of that is the love for the special effects with the T1000. The part where they go into Mexico, then attack Miles Dyson's office seems like it takes forever and drags on endlessly. To me, that took the movie from awesome to pretty good. ----
I felt like Terminator 3 got right to the point, had one of the most AWESOME car chase scenes I've ever seen (Matrix 2 came out that same year and T3 put that highway chase scene to shame), filled the story with not too much lull or drama, and paved the way for more Terminator movies. I mean, the ending was just amazing/beautiful. Ok, Arnold did have some very corny moments in the movie, but, by the 3rd one you've got to have a little bit of fun with a Terminator interacting and learning from humans. And, didn't Cameron go on record when T3 came out and said overall he liked it? He said he would have done it differently, but, that he did like it. -----
I'm not trying to start an argument or anything on here....I'm just curious if someone could explain why everyone HATES T3? I honestly didn't think it hurt the series at all..... -
and I really am looking forward to Salvation.... I think it's going to be amazing!
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What is it with him! Always walking around and fixing the lights when Christian's trying to do a scene! That'd put anyone off their game. __________Of course, Bale always does good work. I'm looking forward to it.
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May 06, 2009 9:23:58 PM CDT
Aren't plants supposed to make you want to see the movie?
by seppukudkurosawa
This just made it look like we all imagined a McG Terminator movie would be before Bale jumped on board. I'm leaning towards it either being legit or some dude getting his shits and giggles.
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no doubt T2 is the best one out the 3.i agree it is a bit long.i think sometimes a shorter movie is more watchable
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Bale is a sterile actor. He is technically accurate, but cold in execution, even when attempting to emote real emotion, but Sam Worthington, on the other hand, is brilliant...and emotes great feeling in his acting, to the point that you can't detect that he is acting. No, you look at him as he acts, and you could almost swear that you are evesdropping on a real conversation. Only the truly great actors can do that, and Christian Bale just doesn't convey that ability to project truly needed authenticity---as his emotions seem synthetic.
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IF PEOPLE WOULD STOP FUCKING WALKING IN HIS LINE OF SIGHT WHILE HE'S TRYING TO FUCKING ACT. AMATEURS!
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the t rip bust was supposed to be revealed yesterday,still no pics yet.anyone found any?
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In one interview he's all "I lead my set with intensity and anger" in another he's all "superman was all set to go with me but I am agoraphobic so I couldn't get on the plane". One second he's all I grew up wanting I do action films another he's all I want to do musicals.
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In one interview he's all "I lead my set with intensity and anger" in another he's all "superman was all set to go with me but I am agoraphobic so I couldn't get on the plane". One second he's all I grew up wanting I do action films another he's all I want to do musicals.
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Fake review. McG will be balls deep in Harry's ass for posting this bullshit review. And don't bother talk-backing because this whole article will be gone very soon....
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Imagine the guy who played Chekov from TOS as Kyle Reese in James Cameron's Terminator...that would be funny.
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i must admit ive watched a few interviews with Mcg,and he does come across as a total wanker,but lets hope the movies good,thats all that matters.
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If I were dictator of a small Latin American country, that would be it's motto.
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It's spielbergs skill and conveyance of primal childhood fears minus the sentimality. None of the adults are to be trusted and the ending is devestating. Bales look is horrifying, as if his parents mean nothing now.
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he'll kick. your. fuckin. ass. you. prick.
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Good next few weeks of flicks coming out. Hopefully it'll wash the stank out of Wolverine, bleh.
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Also either a plant, or someone who just likes to write BS. "John Connor however is someone that people look up to, as he instills spirit and will to live and go on, by airing his thoughts and knowledge over the radio waves for everyone who will listen." Yeah thanks for letting us know who John Connor is. "Marcus wakes up in 2018 somewhat frightened at first" Oh, he was frightened at first? I was going to see this movie if he was happy during this scene, but since he's frightened... "This in itself is quite a time paradox, so don’t start trying to figure out how all this time travel works, just accept it as a cool storyline."
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May 06, 2009 9:40:44 PM CDT
If you've been to a toy store lately, you know what the big "sec
by clavius
Even Lucas wasn't so impatient to get his mitts on your money that he let action figures with big 'ol SPOILERS on em out weeks before the film. (Episode II's arm chopping Anakin came out weeks later for instance, same for EPIII's deep fried Ani.) Hell I remember back in 1983 when just before ROTJ came out, the friggin EWOKS were blacked out on the cardbcks of the new figures, because they wanted you to be surprised that they were anthropomorphic teddy bears.
Anyone who's seen the the new Terminator figures at any toy department in the last 3 weeks knows what the big "reveal" is.
If the filmmakers gave two shits about the story they are trying to tell, they would have put the kybosh on some of the toys getting out until well AFTER most folks have had a chance to see it. -
I don't give a fuck if you describe a character. I want to know what you liked, what you disliked, what surprised you, and maybe a funny story related to the movie. That is fucking all. By adding in this extra BS you either look like a plant or a douche.
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Guess you've never seen Rescue Dawn
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Movie will prob. be okay. Plus it has Giant Robots. I'm there.
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You're right, I have never seen Rescue Dawn.
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all the info is from the set visit report,taken from commingsoon website.
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Most commercials, trailers and clips showcase the plot and scenes of most movies in general, so in essence you can piece that shit together and have already seen the bulk of the thing.
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2009 IS THE SUMMER of ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER!
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I would agree. First, McG claimed he had the blessings of James Cameron to do the new Terminator film, until Cameron outed him as lying about it. Next, McG blasted the quality of the Terminator series...I suspect, his target was Terminator 3, but one can't be sure...and of course, the idea for Supernatural came from the movie Frailty, but McG won't admit it. The latter two things, I just mentioned for the hell of it, but he hasn't been caught in any lies there.BTW, most pathological liars are narcissistic sociopaths or psychopaths...which McG is, if any of these things, who knows, but he is indeed a liar, like most people in Hollywood are, and most people in general.
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But for me I enjoyed it---I felt the opening chase was one of the best action sequences in the franchise-
The Terminatrix was A scary enough villain, I had a hot crazy robot chick stalking me before, I could relate
Sure they threw me with the whole "we gotta save your lieutenants deal" but from there I was more interested in how it all turned out-
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Transformers 2 more than this.I hope its good, but...As far as T3 goes I don't know anyone who actually hates it, I liked it (maybe 'cause it was the first Terminator movie I saw at a theatre) but I think it easily the 'worst' of the series... at least maybe until now.
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By the third Act---Honestly, I cant decide who was more annoying-- Furlong ordering Arnie around or that Skywalker kid who was said to have built Threepio.
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WAS IT PROFESSIONAL??!!
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To have seen him play John Conner In the third one---considering he was doing all kind of shit In his private life---I'm curious about what kind of edge he wouldve brought to the role.
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Wasnt he quoted saying that?
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"How was the lighting?"-Lockesbrokenleg.LOL!
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if it's the last thing he does, McG will sniff a chair Beyonce sat in!
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Dissing Bale? Is he trying to get his intellectual-ass raped by the dynamic duo of Stuntcock Mike and DGDB?
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Kindergarten Cop!
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another captionable pic
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Over a thousand bullshit pg-13 cgi sequences from T3 and T4
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What makes you think he didn't fist her?
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Kindergarten Cop fucking rules!"Its not a tumor!" classic.
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AT THE SCREENING? FUCKING UN PROFESSIONAL!!
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Interesting that he didn't mention the big-o ending the McG is stating will make some fans upset...nothing new here - read this on comingsoon weeks back if i recall correctly...before we post these reviews can someone please verify that there was a fucking screening somewhere...
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not an obvious plant gushing over the movie - at least there is some degree of tempering good with bad points...Generally sounds positive, but not the home run many of us continue to hope for...
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read the set report on commingsoon,same info.
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I saw it today too. It's good - better than T3 but not as good as the other two. Different feel. Lots of fun callbacks to the first two of course. A musical one in particular took me by surprise.
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May 06, 2009 10:44:49 PM CDT
My dad's a gynecologist. He looks at vaginas all day long.
by jj_dicknose
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"Over the top?" For fucks sake...man. McG, are you going to say something to this prick?
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in that case i saw it too,yeah it was great.
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How was the surprise ending? Shocking or expected?
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And what theater did you see it at...
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sarah connor is there at the end in the project angel lab.shes a hybrid cyborg,experimented to stop her cancer,that sthe big spoiler ending.john connor shocked
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It was an industry screening in a private screening room. No real surprise ending at all actually. But still very good. There are things that shouldn't be ruined but they are just cool moments. Nothing I hadn't read about before.
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It was packed though - Id be SHOCKED if more reviews didn't start pouring in shortly
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the t 800 battle is awsome
at the end
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ha - thats actually true - it is!
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shes dying of cancer and gets rebuilt,she used to work for cyberdine
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A copy of the Workprint which only has Bale Cursing out Arnold's CGI'D Head In front of a Blue screen...."YOU CALL THIS A fucking performance!
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john and marcus battle in skynet building,end up in the project angel lab,leading to the end of the movie
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Reese sends Sarah "Back to the Future" in an alternate timeline (think new Star Trek) where she meets her own son. She can't resist the charm of Lord Bale (aka John Conner) and has a kid spawned from incest named...Here comes the spoiler....Marcus, who really is a cyborg. John finds out that Sarah cheated on him by fucking a T-101 producing Marcus the love child. That's why Arnold has a cameo in the film.
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Connor is in the holding cell and finds countless people there, waiting to be experimented on to make the perfect killing machines. He releases all of them but still doesn't have Kyle. He opens one last door and inside rises up Arnold. He slowly comes after Connor, but Connor finds a flame thrower and melts Arnold's face off. They fight back and forth and Marcus shows up and saves Connor from a punch. Marcus fights with the Terminator but gets knocked out but this lets Connor get ready. Connor blasts this molten furnace thing and it pours all over the endoskeleton. He then shoots some cable and it quickly freezes him. So this causes his joints to lock up right as his hand touches Connor's cheek. Connor gets loose and circles the Terminator, taunting him. The terminator can only look as Connor gets right in his face and says "Do it you son of a bitch" mocking him. He tells him that he should know all about human mannerisms if he's going to be a good infiltrator and asks him if he knows this one. He grabs a pipe and takes a baseball stance and then says, "batter up!" and knocks the head off the Terminator! Connor wraps a bunch of C4 around some terminator power cells and they escape with Kyle, Marcus and the other prisoners in a helicopter. They then blow the place up and fly off. end of movie.
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You posted a fake review... I hope it was fucking good because it's useless now that we know you're a fraud, isn't it? You're done professionally, man.
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May 06, 2009 11:23:53 PM CDT
This review is probably the same as the novelization.
by scriptgirl_nipples
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My version is wayyyyyyyy better. More original. More professional.
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u see the scene he knocks arnies head off.check it out.oh and connor says ill be back.
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[insert Bale reference]Of course "You are fucking unprofessional!" is obvious, but I'd go with"Your' a nice guy, but FUCK!"
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I just read it today, and that is word for word the same....meaning it def could be different considering the novelization came out early last week. The book had a huge "Johnn conner is going to die" feel, was actually shocked he didn't.
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It felt like they were setting up the human/terminator hybrid to take over as john since most people only heard him over the radio or through stories.
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the t 800 u see john fighting is the arnold model,with the skin burnt off,look carefully in the close up,u can see little bits of skin on the skull and skeleton.
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Sounds like van dammes cyborg with tons of cash. And mcg the pathoglical liar why do you keep saying Jonah Nolan wrote it when he isn't credited
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It opens with Marcus on death row. Serena comes in and asks him to reconsider donating his body to science. He tells her he'll sell her his signature 'for a kiss', they kiss, he signs the sheet and then is executed.
Opening Credits reveal Judgment Day, voice over from Sarah Connor.
Cut to 2018 as the Resistence infiltrates an underground Skynet complex in the desert. They attack the complex, and after landing on a T-600 have to go under-ground to enter the facility, while moving toward the door they take out a T1. Inside they find humans in cages.
The resistence doesnt know why there are human prisoners there becuase 'Skynet doesnt take prisoners' - they go through the computer and get a bunch of information.
They hear rumbling above, the General says free the prisoners and sends John to check out what's going on above ground. He goes up there, and the helicopter pilots are dead, John sees a Transport H-K carrying more humans away, so he jumps in the Helicopter and takes off after it. Right then the underground Skynet complex explodes and kills all the men inside. The shock wave makes the helicopter crash and John fights the remaining T-600. He radios in for backup - noting himslef as the only survivor.
A storm comes in.
Out of the ground, in the storm, Marcus rises. He finds the dead pilot and is clearly confused.
Cut to John being picked up in the Helicopter, he then demands to be taken to HQ, and they are hovering over the storm ridden sea and the pilot says no way HQ does not want you. John jumps out of the helicopter and the divers from the sub pick him up.
Ashdown comes in and it is clear that he knows of Sarah from her files in the Pescadero institute. So it is well known that some think John is the one that can lead the Resitence, and knows a lot about the machines. John tells him what Skynet is doing with these humans (making human tissue for the T-800s).
Ashdown tells John about a code they found hidden in the system which he thinks can shut down Skynet and his machines. He tells John he wants him to test it out.
We learn that Skynet has a kill list and the top two on it are John Connor and Kyle Reese, an unknown civilian accoding to Ashdown.
We cut to Marcus wandering the ruins of LA. (church scene)
A T-600 shoots at him, Kyle saves him ('come with me if you want to live'). Kyle has some cool home made traps to get the T-600, they unite with Star, a mute, who can always sense when H-K's are getting close, *through vibrations/six sense* Marcus is kinda brought up to speed. And Kyle seems to know a lot about the machines.
Marcus wants to go to San Fransico (where Serena first met him) Kyle says he will take him to some cars in the morning, because the H-K's are good at night.
Then it cuts to John coming back to his base, and he prepares his men to test the transmitter that will hopefully shut down Skynet on a hydrobot.
John does his radio broadcast - it shows people around the country listening to this radio broadcast. John then talks to Kate about how much this future has changed, that nothing is going the way it was suppose to. It clearly marks that the T-800's are being made 10 years too early.
We cut to Marcus fixing a car radio, and they listen to John, Kyle wants to find the Resistance now.
It then shows the Resistence and John testing the transmitter on a Hydrobot they captured and it only paralyzes it, doesn't shut it down.
Then it cuts to Marcus fixing a Jeep getting ready to take off, he has a clash with Kyle and Star he does not want them to go with him. But then an Aerostat spots them so he grabs them and they take off. Marcus is amazed that he threw a wrench at the Aerostat and destroyed it with such precision and force.
So they drive for a while and go to the gas station. There are survivors in there that want them to leave. Then the old lady Virgina offers them something to eat. Without warning the Harvesters claws start bursting through the roof and grabbing people.
This leads to the chase with the Moto-Terminators. They get to a bridge where a H-K is trying to block them off. The Moto-Terminator gets attached to the hook on the tow truck and flings at the H-K. Just as they think they are safe a transport has come down and the Harvester has caught up grabbing Star and Kyle. Some Resistance A-10's show up and start shooting at the H-K's and the H-K's go flying after them leaving just the transporter and the Harvester.
The Harvester then gets shot off falls into the canyon. Then one of the A-10 Warthogs get shot down. The transporter takes off and Marcus falls into the river and floats down stream. He wakes up then finds Blair on the downed power line. He helps her and she tells him to come with her, and they can maybe *most likely not* help get their friends back with the help of John Connor. Marcus remembers the name from the radio and agrees to go with her back to base *a two day walk*
They get to an abandon race car track, and run into some scavengers, that want to 'have fun' with Blair. Marcus is off getting wood for the fire. Blair kicks their asses, with the help of Marcus at the end, but lets them live.
We cut-to Kyle and Star in the transport H-K. Kyle is trying to figure out a way to escape once they land, showing his determination and unwaivering desire to survive.
We then cut back to Blair and Marcus sitting around a fire, they are starting to care for eachother.
Then Kyle and Star are pushed into the concentration camp, and some try to escape, but the T-600's don't allow it.
Then it cuts to Barnes and Connor in a forest, with a group of men looking to test the "transmitter" once again. They gain the attention of an Aerial H-K and in the last moment shut it down. Connor is still unconvinced. Knowing how tricky Skynet can be.
Later John yells at Ashdown over the radio, because Ashdown wants a full global assault using these transmitters against Skynet. John does his "we are all dead" thing. Ashdown relieves Connor of his command, but Connor ignores it, and so do his men at the base becuase they are loyal to John. John then gets on the global radio for the other bases, and tells them not to attack like Ashdown wants, to keep their humanity and not become like the machines.
Later Blair and Marcus reach the base. She tells him not to worry that the base is covered in landmines that only react to machines that have Skynet's frequency. Well guess what? A mine goes off blowing Marcus up. It cuts to four men carrying Marcus to the hospital area, it is here that we learn Marcus is not human. Barnes knocks him out.
Then within an empty missle silo they have strung up Marcus, and bolted his hands up. Kate say that this is something different that may have once been human. John does not trust it at all. He keeps questioning Marcus. So Marcus says he was just trying to save Kyle and Star. This of course stops John, but he still walks away saying they will dismantle Marcus later.
Blair does not like this and tries to talk to Kate and say that Marcus is not one of them, and that he saved her. But Kate tells her that that is what Skynet wants them to think. Blair goes into the area where they are holding Marcus and convinces Barnes, who is shooting target practice at Marcus, that Connor wants him ASAP. She then of course helps Marcus escape through the ventilation shafts in the missle silos.
Cut to John listening to tapes made by his mother, he is unsure what to do about Kyle and Marcus. Then Barnes comes in - Connor immediatley knows what has happend. He runs to the silo - Marcus is gone.
The soldiers shoot at Marcus and Blair, she ignites a bomb that sets off a section of mines that are planted alongside the river. Barnes is on a motorcycle chasing after them. Marcus gets the bike knocks out Barnes and takes off, leaving Blair behind.
John continues to hunt Marcus, now in a helicopter, he lowers down to the river. Suddenly hydrobots attack the copter bringing it down, John sees the bots kill his men, and right before one kills him Marcus jumps in and grabs it snapping it in half. The Hydrobots won't attack Marcus because they are on the same frequency of Skynet.
John and Marcus still don't trust eachother but Connor gives him a communication device, and Marcus says he will infiltrate Skynet Central, and that he needs to know what made him. And that he will help John get Kyle and the rest of the prisoners once he gets there. He tells John to wait at the Golden Gate bridge. John reluctantly agrees to do so.
Marcus disappears into the river.
John tells Barnes that he is going to infiltrate Skynet by himself and save the prisoners. Kate doesnt want John to go becuase it is not safe, John tells her he'll "be back".
Barnes and John then set a cool trap catch a Moto-Terminator, and reprogarm it to go back to Central. John straps himself in by tying himself to the machine, and they reacivate it and it takes off.
Marcus gets into Skynet central with out a hitch. We see more of Skynet's world. But none of the machines are attacking or paying attention to him.
John waits outside of Skynet.
Marcus gets to main computer and connects himself to it - gaining lots of knowledge in his hybrid brain - what he learns is that Skynet used Serenas research to make Marcus. Marcus then lowers the defenses so that John can sneak in.
Ashdown and his sub crew try to use the transmitter, and it ends up being a trap by Skynet that just relayed their posisiton. An incoming H-K destroys the sub.
Marcus then reunites with Serena, they talk. She tells Marcus that Skynet created him to learn about humans, and at the same time, lure John back here. Skynet we find out wants to ensure that John Connor is dead, they want him as close as possible so when it kill Johns, it can be sure of it. We learn that this is why Marcus had a desire to go to San Fransisco (Skynet).
Skynet wants to create a machine controlled world. Nothing to do with humans. Skynet is afraid of John.
John then enters the Concentration camp (where we see humans get their laser scan tattoos) and takes out a few T-600's. He then helps free the prisoners and is looking for Kyle - who has been taken away to a lab by a T-600.
Kyle uses a shank he has to stab the T-600 in a hyrdolic part that is vanurable to the T-600 (John talked about it in his radio broadcast). The T-600 is put out of commision, Kyle runs away.
John then opens a cell and we see...the Model 101 staring at him. John runs, it rips the T-600's arm off taking its gatlin gun and firing it at John.
John runs into Star/Kyle and they are introduced. But its no time for games, the Terminator is after them. John fires many grenade rounds into the T-800 but it keeps getting up. The T-800 is shot down into a hole but John knows its still going to go after them. Kyle, Star and John see the Terminator factory, none of them are powered up yet though. And we see that there is a whole area of hydrogen fuel cells for the Terminator's having their skin put on. John and Kyle rig the fuel cells with explosives. But as they are doing that the T-800 comes running down the hall after them.
Kyle tries to shoot at it, but it keeps going after John - its main target. John makes sure Kyle and Star are on the elevator where we hear the "Who are you?" From Kyle. After telling Kyle who he is John is attacked by the Terminator again. The T-800 is about to kill him slamming him against a wall, and is about to rip out his heart when Marcus dives in. Marcus and the T-800 fight for a bit, and the T-800 is clearly stronger and takes down Marcus.
John then has a final one-on-one with the T-800, where he continues to shoot at it as it gets closer - finally giving John his trade-mark scar just before John destroys it.
Barnes and Marcus drag John out of the facility and into the chopper. They take off and John screams to go back but then he realises Star has the denator for the bomb they set near the thousands of power cells. John ignites it and a lot of Skynet Central is demolished.
The chopper flies off.
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Anton Yelchin is a tribute to George McFly! Christian Bale is George McFly! After seeing awhile back who were penning the script for Salvation I didn't expect any great profound plot concept. I believe the film will make money based on the franchise's name alone... but the consensus on the film will be...meh.
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the plants are getting cleverer. They know if they just big it up as the greatest thing ever nobody will believe them so they chuck in a few comments about it being average. There's also the line about "future stories being in safe hands". Dead giveaway! The grammar is intentionally weak in places and then there's the plants shitty unimaginative name. I'll see it (as I'm a Bale fan) but I don't believe it's going to be worth it.
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May 07, 2009 1:31:02 AM CDT
I asked McG if he'd seen this review
by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights
McG said he didn't see anything.
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I like scotsman75's version better. The bit with Common shooting a tied up Marcus for target practice is ace.
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Will any character have a really cool hairstyle I want to imitate like Edward Furlong in T2? The way his hair flowed when he turned his head in that mall corridor to look at arnie and the T1000, made me have a haircrush.
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Star is a hybrid or term for sure. The ending seems to mean that he thinks he knows what he saw but he fades out before being able to really think about it so Star being among them is the ending...Unless there is more Arnie t800 or Serena
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Don't people know that Bale was purposely getting on that lighting guy's ass more than he should so he can have some emotion on screen...
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explains why star could sence hk,s.even though she was machine her brain and heart,made her sacrifice her self,thats why the hybrids arnt terminators,machines cant replace heart or mind.
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May 07, 2009 1:49:54 AM CDT
gotta love Harry for posting this obvious shit also
by glory_fades_immaxfischer
tool bag
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one too many beers... Christian Bale is Marty McFly! Anton Yelchin has the bravado of pee wee herman.
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Star is a vampire.
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You're all like, Dah, Dah, Dah!!!
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My favorite scene is where Anton Yelchin walks in on Bale screaming and smashing some lights over a T-800 in a football jersey with the name Hulbert on it. Yelchin then holds out his hand and says "come with me if you want to live" Hulberminator and Yelchin flee from Bale and set off to go back in time to stop Bale from making the movie.
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Exactly.
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the fist tralier u see arnies leg and hands ripping the gun off the t600 check the others out.
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Yeah real, enthusiastic NON-REVIEW. How did this horse shit get published? Sounds like someone who's read the movie tie in books and collected a couple of the action figures to me. Not a plant but definately a vegetable.
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By the way, "the guy playing Kyle Reese"? It's Anton Yelchin - Chekov in the new TREK movie.
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Sounds more like this douche read Alan Dean Foster's novelisation and decided to "fake" a review, and it even READS like a review of the plot points and not the movie. Could be wrong though. However, I for one am THERE to worship at the church of Bale. I'll be on the front row so that when he rants and raves and screams I can pretend his foaming spit is hitting me in the mouth. Resistance to the BALE is futile. Another geek hard-on is the mere mention of Michael -M-Frackin' Lizard killing- Ironside. This movie is gonna be pure geek gold even if Jimmy Cameron hasn't let McG kiss his ring for ass-proval.
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I´m there.
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its fuckin terminator! im gonna have to agree with everyone, this is a fake review that anyone could have written. either than or its the single worst planted 'review' of all time. the poor writing makes me want to say plant... like some guy with a shitty marketing degree trying to talk like a fan.
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The Baleminator will hunt you down. Listen, and understand. That Baleminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
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What is the point of this bullshit plant? Who knows? Then the re-teller. So unnecessary. This is all garbage. DEADPOOL - please. My Dead Pool is a lot cooler. Bring on Avatar, even if it is going to be colored broken glass shards. FUCK MY BRAIN. Please.
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Classic plant review.
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There is a screening tonight,7pm.That's the first proper screening of the finished film.
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A V A T A R will FUCK OUR EYEBALLS this December!Fuck this PG-13 Terminator bullshit to hell.
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Why couldn't they use Michael Biehn? With makeup he could look young again.
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if thats what you want from your review.
I read this site a few times a week, but I never write anything for it, and I personally like the reviews where you dont give away every tiny subplot. However my review(I go by GandalfTW in talkback), was meant telling you what my feelings where about the movie in general.
The things I liked best was Marcus' storyline. Simply because I felt strongly for his character. The bits about Connor, sure we know somewhat. I am not a diehard fan and therefore I havent read anything about him NOT being the head of the resistance. For me thats been a given in the three previous films, so to see him kinda sidelined, was a nice surprise for me.
Just to clarify, I wrote this because I thought it could be a nice review for people who may not be die-hard fans. I dont know if this is the right place for it, however as it seems most here in talkback at least have great knowledge about this in detail. But if just a few thought this review gave them a little taste of it from the perspective of one that isnt fully immersed in the Terminator universe, then I am happy.
So basically, I dont like having my review called a fake or a plant, but I really cant be bothered too much about it. Merrick thought it was good enough to post, and I am happy to have contributed to this site.
Oh and for anyone thinking my writing isnt perfect, well, I am sorry, but english isnt my native language. :-) -
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1. Opening - Danny Elfman
2. All is Lost - Danny Elfman
3. Broadcast - Danny Elfman
4. Harvester Returns, The - Danny Elfman
5. Fireside - Danny Elfman
6. No Plan - Danny Elfman
7. Reveal/the Escape - Danny Elfman
8. Hydrobot Attack - Danny Elfman
9. Farewell - Danny Elfman
10. Marcus Enters Skynet - Danny Elfman
11. Solution, A - Danny Elfman
12. Serena - Danny Elfman
13. Final Confrontation - Danny Elfman
14. Salvation - Danny Elfman
15. Rooster - Alice In Chains
Terminator Salvation Soundtrack CD
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....but the story you can see in the above report has been out in the form of the official novel for a week or so,anyone can right a `review`based on that.
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...not right....time to buy some Red Bull!
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He also probably writes to newspapers pretending to be the Next Ripper...he's just a frustrated little turd with too much time on his hands - and probably too much jizz.
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hahaha actually this review seems genuine
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To be honest, he still hasn't recovered from that whole 'light guy walked through my scene' thing. It may be a long time before he's whole again.
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... or the real deal? Like the terminators, they are now getting harder to tell apart.
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Sure, the guy's a cock and he beats up on his mom and sister, but who gives a shit? I think he's a damn good actor and he selects good projects.
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There WAS no spoiler, and everything else we already knew. Write back with a proper review or reveal yourself as a charlatan!!
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1. expresses initial passive dissinterest in the film
2. expresses empathy with fans concerns about the film
3. discloses 'spoilers' but digresses before exposing anything the studio would not want exposed -
BUT THAT DON'T CUT IT WHEN YOU'RE TRASH-TALKING THE LORD DARTH BALE, MOTHERFUCKER!
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But that goes without saying.
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"Poor Shane is inline to recieve the first of Bale's "Blood Eagle"
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Whenever an early review is posted the first thing you all yell is PLANT! And 99.9% of the time the reviews that Harry decides to post are infact legitimate reviews.
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The biggest (to me) plant sign is the "Warning Spoilers" tag, followed by a desire not to spoil the "big" surprise.
I mean seriously, who the fuck on AICN DOESN'T know that the dude is a Terminator? We've known it since way back when they were first considering making John Connor one of these "human" terminators.
And this reviewer decides he doesn't want to spoil THAT surprise?
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WHEN WILL YOU FUCKIN UNDERSTAND ?
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That dude rocks.
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That 'botanist' quip just made me laugh a lot! Thanks for lightening up a boring afternoon writing!
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I can only hope they include the Bale rant as an extra on the DVD once this movie is released. That is the highlight of this piece of shit movie. FUCK SAKE MAN, YOU’RE AMATURE!!!
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May 07, 2009 8:34:36 AM CDT
The Terminator Salvation trailers make the hair on my arms stand
by fireclown
I almost don't want to see the movie. There is enough awesome in that trailer for three movies, and about 85 T3s.
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by ganymede3010 May 7th, 2009
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Whenever an early review is posted the first thing you all yell is PLANT! And 99.9% of the time the reviews that Harry decides to post are infact legitimate reviews.
Do we have any kind of metric for this?
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In my humble opinion,I think T4 will be fantastic.
I do,however,think the review is fake based on the extended plot synopsis that's been online for a few days or the official novel.
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That what Connor says to Danny Dyson in T2. Wonder what they did during the time the Terminator pulled his arm/wrist/fist off...
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Danny
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this is the film i'm looking forward to the most this summer. i'm not sure of McG, but every trailer gets my blood pumping. the only downside is the mighty oak's not the main terminator, let's hope for T:5.....he'll be back.
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I'll miss Arnold for sure, but the Machine Uprising is bigger than just a single cyborg. Or a single production run of cyborgs. God I want this movie to live up to my vision of it.
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When John and GF are in the car with Arnie who tells them something about how John will die or about the inevitable nuclear war which gets them upset. Then Arnie look at them with his scariest only-moving-my-eyeball piercing look and says: "relax!" That was A+
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Have you ever noticed that John called Danny by his name,even though he'd just arrived and had no chance of knowing it??!
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This is just a simple made-up review. Maybe I'll write one for AVATAR.
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This review is a plant, sure, but who cares? It looks great, it's FINALLY about the ONLY THING I've wanted to see about the TERMINATOR since the first one came out -- FUTURE FUCKIN' WAR-- and it features rageaholic badass Batman as John Fuckin' Connor. This is going to be an Epic Win. AVATAR will probably be OK...
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In Bale we trust!
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...if this movie ends up sucking, I suspect we'll hear a collective gunshot to the mouth from all the Bale-philes.
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The reason John knows danny's name is that he connect to the early internet (remember it's 1994-1995 even if they still listen to G&R crap), and seduced Danny in the chatroom, knowing full well he-- geez, what am I saying ? T2 was written in three weeks, that's why it's so full of plot holes and bad writing.
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The first two movies set up some (soft) rules for Terminators. No future weaponry and they could be slowed/damaged but were difficult to stop. This made them scary in a relentless, will-not-stop kind of way. Then the third movie comes along. She has particle accelerators, can animate any machine, and there is no rhyme or reason for what will or won't hurt her. That was not a Terminator, that was producers wanting to have dinosaurs with laser beams because that sounds cool.
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Ironside rocks, but he has admitted that very often he makes a movie just for the paycheck. So I'm not too hyped up... even though it will be TOTALLY BALETASTIC!
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How about reviewing with a bit of passion man. I have to treat this so called review as void.
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The reason I didnt make more of a comment on Arnolds appearence is that its not THAT special, it is however well made, and it IS a nice cameo. I thought it looked very life like. However after a skirmish(in the nude) for about 30 or 40 seconds(didnt have a timer with me), he is blasted so his face is gone and only the metal skull with a little skin hanging on is still there.
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Where was the screening mate?
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Praise His generosity in sharing the limelight with Sam Worthington. When Bale recognizes a professional, He rewards him. That's His way. As for Bale being "over the top", how can he not be? He's the FUCKING LEADER OF THE HUMAN RESISTANCE. You don't get to that position by being mousy. Duh!
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Im sorry if you thought it needed passion, that is the way I ended up sending it off. I am NOT a regular writer, neither of reviews, nor in the talkbacks, so I emailed it and figured that if the review really was THAT crappy, the editors wouldnt put it up.
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It was a screening of the first 40 minutes of Up in 3D, Terminator Salvation and Angels and Demons.
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Was the chick in the poster the bad guy?
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FUCK!
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Most professional among cookies.
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May 07, 2009 10:03:42 AM CDT
WHAT IS IT WITH YOU?? DO YOU WANT ME TO TRASH YOUR LIGHTS?!
by bringingsexyback
Do you?!?
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You know the hype already surrounding this picture. Being one of the first people to see it and review (??) it is a big deal, especially for you. You have to step up to the mark when given this kind of opportunity.
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ANGELS AND DEMONS AND BALES is actually the prequel to...
THE BALE CODE - in which a professor of talkback unlocks an incredible secret by following the hidden signs given by Bale in each and every one of his movies.
"They're. All. Connected." he gasps as the true significance of 3:10 TO YUMA sinks in. -
Sorry mate,you're talking bollocks:)
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Yeah Chuck, Gandalf wasn't even close to the mark. I don't know if it's a genuine review or just a dick with a copy of the novelisation but I DO KNOW that it's a pretty sorry piece of writing.
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I would not want to be you.
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May 07, 2009 10:19:12 AM CDT
Scotsman75, please talk about Sarrah Connor !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by nooneimportant
you need to elaborate on this scene if it is indeed the big ending. when does this happen? And is it assumed she is blown up along with Skynet?
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May 07, 2009 10:21:57 AM CDT
IN BALE WE TRUST who cares about mcg or shane those amateurs!:)
by muri71
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He should have been in the trailers because he kicks ass. One year on my anniversary when the traditional gift was "iron," my wife got me the "Scanners" DVD! Good wife...
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Beezbo, watch out for when it's 'gold' unless you'd quite like a DVD of SISTER ACT...
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But I am well aware that it isnt that easy trusting things in this talkback. I can only post my bits, its up to you to think if I am the right thing or not. However, there were 2 prescreenings for cinema professionals in Denmark this week. I went to one of them. Since it seems there have been a script leaked that seems to very closely resemble the actual movie(and why shouldnt it), I probly cant convince anyone. So why bother keep trying. ;-)
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Then everything will be alright.
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Is not in the film at all but Linda Hamilton's voice is - on audio tapes she logged for John
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Where's your Angels And Demons and Up footage reviews then?
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Gandalf - been a lot of talk about the PG certification for TS. How 'hardcore' did you find it?
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http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9594/sarahayp.jpg
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McG said the ending will divide the audience and could piss off a few people. what is he talking about?
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May 07, 2009 10:44:01 AM CDT
"To deal with the macine uprising, they called in the machinist!
by johnno
That should be the tagline on the posters...
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Move the phase plasma rifle with a 40 watt range or I'll make you eat it.
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See you at the party.
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In addition to trashing fucking lights.......the Lord knows how to act and fist cunts, thats what he does.
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"dinosaurs with laser beams" is D-WAR
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Well, as for Angels and Demons, there are already reviews pouring in, so my poor writing style, wouldnt make for something Id think they would post anyways. As for Up, well, I didnt see it all, and I think it may still be worked on, so no reason to review it. And besides, I figured of the three, Terminator was the one people might want to know about most. ;-)
However what I saw of Up was very nice. The start is actually very grown up, and I am not sure many kids will understand it. It opens with Carl seeing a newsreel at the movies about his hero, an explorer, who has brought home a skeleton of a huge birdlike creature from a recent expedetion. He is however treated as a fake, and scientists conclude that he fabricated the skeleton(this is deja vu like). We then see him meeting his future wife, in an old abandoned house(later to become their home as well), and theres a VERY NICE piece as we follow them growing up, getting married, finding out they cant have children, and eventually the death of Ellie, his wife. This is done very nicely in a few minutes, with cool underlying music, that changes as the mood changes. This is the segment that feels very grown up, although there are tiny bits that will make you smile and laugh throughout this montage. As kids they vowed to go explore Paradise Falls, somewhere in South America, and this is what the movie revolves around, from what I see. After that first bit, the stuff that kids will relate to and the more humorous stuff starts. Wait till they reach Paradise Falls and encounter the talking dogs, thats hilarious.
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was over the top..."Gooood For Youuu!!"
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I knew all of that about UP from the previews/reports on it. You don't wanna review Angels and Demons because others already have?Right.I haven't seen any anywhere.You don't have any answer to what the ending is, the tone of the action/violence, or what happens with Sarah Connor.And your review is still nothing different than the novelization that you coyly admit would be the same as what you saw, giving a little ":p" symbol, without offering anything new.FAKE REVIEW!
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Thank you:)
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We have 4 categories in Denmark, 0 years(everyone),7 years, 11 years and 15 years old to see. I believe it will get a 11 years rating here in Denmark, however it could get 15. I guess its probly a little worse than Terminator 3 in the gory department, and somewhat easier going than Terminator 2.
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Go back to your dreams of evil kenisvel biopics with music by smashmouth
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And since I havent read the novelization, I cant really say if its the same in the movie.
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I like to wait until legitimate reviews from known sources start showing up on Rotten Tomatoes.
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Bale meltdown references are still fresh and funny, even months after the fact.
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"The man most directly responsible is Miles Bennet Dyson"..."I have DETAILED files" when Sarah and the T2 T-800 are talking in the car en route to Mexico. We don't get to hear all of the information but it's certainly not impossible that the T-800 told them about Dyson's family and I believe there's no question that detailed files of an individual would contain immediate family members, including their names and ages, etc.Let's not confuse plot holes with you needing to have shit spelled out to you. Some filmmakers do that because of potential "plot holes" but then they end up condescending to the people they didn't think would get it. But when people don't get it (and the detailed files thing being how he knew isn't exactly a stretch now is it?) and don't bother to consider possibilities given within the film, they immediately call it a "plot hole".That said, I find the ease in which both the Dyson's allow a total stranger to take their child into another room and the child's lack of reluctance to do so as more of a plot hole, or 'careless' writing if you prefer, then dismissing the possibility that the information about Dyson's son was given to both John and Sarah off screen via those 'detailed files' talks.
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May 07, 2009 11:35:58 AM CDT
Michael Ironside + Christian "Professional" Bale = EPIC FUCKING
by laserpants
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May 07, 2009 11:36:23 AM CDT
It's obvious sam is a terminator..they gave that shit away in th
by alienindisguise
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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Has those small moments that are just brilliant. T3 had none of them and my guess is neither will T4 (hope I'm wrong).In particular, when the 1000 first arrives and takes out the cop, he gets into the squad car and looks over at the small pc...he gently rests his hand on top of it in an almost fraternal or even fatherly gesture and then proceeds to use it to get John's address.Also, during the first fight at the mall, after he throws the 800 through the glass window and begins to turn away, he sees the silver painted mannequin and furrows his brow as he walks away. At that point, we hadn't seen him in his natural state of the 'liquid metal man'. That's what Cameron brings...nuance and subtleties that make action movies more than spectacle. He may not be the best action director ever but he knows the difference between a story and a fireworks display...both can be beautiful on their own but if you can combine them together, we can get something truly excellent and magical and worthy of all of our praise.
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Look alot of people talk about why the hate for T3: Judgement Day this is why http://www.retrojunk.com/details_articles/4864/ it's an exact copy!!! Without the cool music or bad guy!
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Of course you're not going to give away the ending because you don't know it. You didn't even see the film.That's the stupidest crap I've ever heard. You don't have one little scrap of info that's different from the set reports/novelization. Nothing to show how you felt about the film and it's effect on you. I could've written that, based off all of the same info. And using Danny Elfman as a refrence means squat, since the soundtrack is out now too.My guess: You're a regular TB poster who registered a new name and this FAKE review was something you sent in to stir up a good TB, something you made up with all available facts.For which you have my thanks, if only to talk about something other than Star Trek Returns.
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Clearly some people (ie.The Plant) can't be bothered to invest in the film and think for themselves. Also Plant, T2 wasn't written in three weeks it was written over about 6 or 7 months and was still being revised throughout production, not to mention Cameron had been kicking about ideas for it from the mid-80's; do your research!!Anyway, who cares - it must be humiliating for McG to get shamed by a movie made 18 fucking years ago, and which still holds up as more impressive than the garbage he's putting out.
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What is the ending of the novelization?
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May 07, 2009 12:19:51 PM CDT
Fuck this plant shit, I've got a real review for Indiana Jones 4
by alucardvsdracula
It will own your ass.
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May 07, 2009 12:20:46 PM CDT
Fuck this plant shit, I've got a review for Watchmen
by alucardvsdracula
It will blow out of your ass.
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May 07, 2009 12:21:59 PM CDT
Fuck this plant shit, I've got a review for Star Wars IV
by alucardvsdracula
It'll tank at the box office. Smokey and the Bandit will own your asses.
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Tell them about the musical callback to T2 - They will believe you then. Its pretty awesome
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If the machines were all built in Detroit, this is going to be a pretty quick war.
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And he's coming for all of you...
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If the machines are built in Detroit, it would lead to Robocop vs The Terminator which would/could have been a great movie with the orginal cast involved.
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Any photo I see of him looks like he wet himself immediately afterward.
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McG keeps saying that the ending will piss off Terminator fans...did it? you dont have to spoil me, but just wanna know
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May 07, 2009 12:44:10 PM CDT
DerekReese, you mean the little highway ride with the Guns'n'ros
by gandalftw
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Keep dreaming. ROTF > all until AVATAR:)
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You mean the highway ride with the music from T2 with Guns'n'roses? People will still call fake. But ofcourse unless its been spoiled somewhere, at least they will know when the movie comes out. ;-)
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than it bests ROTF right there alone.
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so I dont know why they should be pissed off about the ending. However, I personally didnt see the ending as a main source of irritation. My main concern(other than the whole time travel thing) is that various Terminators which we know have some very real strength and could most certainly tear limbs of people, cant do that when they actually have a hold on John Connor. For some reason thats puzzling. Or why they dont just kill off Kyle Reese, as soon as they get him in. Or am I wrong in assuming that Skynet knows that he is Johns father?
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Are fucking idiots with ZERO GODDAMN VISION. You stupid motherfuckers. You are so narrow-minded. I hate you all, and moreover hope you feel fucking stupid in 10 years when your feeble minds catch up with what Nolan, Bale and Co. were doing with the characters. FUCKING IDIOTS.
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May 07, 2009 1:13:41 PM CDT
Michael Ironside + Christian "Professional" Bale = EPIC WIN!!!
by laserpants
I tried to right EPIC FUCKING WIN but it got clipped!!!! THIS FUCKING SITE IS TRASHING MY SCENE!! FUUUUUUUUCK!!!!
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If I was a criminal I would be more saying "WTF could you repeat that". Bale best Batman, Keaton best voice!
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This movie will be a great action bonanza but have nothing singularly amazing about it (in other words, people will go both ways on whether it had better action that this or that other movie, etc). The action will be huge and mostly amazing but only if taken as a whole..I'm hoping for a couple really great action pieces but it may just be a 'whole' thing approach, which isn't at all bad, etcThere will likely be a threadbare story tied to an overly complex plot (this is the big error lately i think, where complexity is mistaken for compelling and deep storylines). Little to no character development but that's not necessarily a deal breaker...(sometimes people don't change, etc)It will be overall better than T3 and only a select few will find it better than T2. Nobody, if being honest, will find it equal to the first one much less better.Cameron will call it some form of "not bad" or we just won't hear from him (which would be worse). The people who like T4 will say Cameron sucks ass and the people who don't like T4 will say he's just being nice.It will make a huge killing at the box office so we will most definitely be getting a much bigger budgeted T5 (or whatever the shortcut name is) next time around which very likely means we'll get the future war coming back in time to a present-future war where soldiers in hummers are being chased by H-K's and possibly the ridiculous idea of controlling modern technology through magical future computer speak (sorry T3 lovers, even being able to corrupt computer systems wouldn't give a regular modern truck the ability to fucking drive itself...is it a robot truck? didn't think so, so how does the machine drive itself? using the force? hated that gaping plot hole in T3)..or whatever other 'cool on paper' ideas McG comes up with...I'll probably find it better than T3 (which was quite bad actually, outside of the lovely Claire Danes) but it will have none of the nuance or inner life that made the first one seem real and though not as common, also made the second one a superior film (I still think if you chopped some of the Furlong-Schwarzenegger dialog out, you'd have a much tighter action thriller without some of the more campy scenes)...McG will probably be the new golden boy for these types of movies for a bit (the smart man's Michael Bay) while not considering that a smart man's Michael Bay might still be a retard. so, ultimately it will not be a dud, actually be a decent action flick in the same vein as Transformers only not as stupid or corny. Basically, I see it as "The Fifth Element" without the all the beautiful girls running around in skimpy outfits and no corny accents but neither does it leave any impact other than "Well, ok, there's nothing else on anyway"But all my bollocks aside, I've always said that any misgivings I have about a storyline very near and dear to my heart (Terminator is still one of my all time favorites of any genre) I hope are all proven wrong. I hope that my rants on McG and his pretentious asswipe nickname he actually expects people to use (same for you R&B, rap, acting, whoemever, assholes with one name...if you're culture doesn't go with one name, stop looking at your reflection in the mirror and tell people your real fucking name...looking at you Sting, Bono, The Edge(?!), Beyonce, will.i.am and the rest of those pretentious assholes..great talent, great abilities...totally stupid ass and pretentious monikers...oh yeah, can you guys call me "Lightenin Boy"? I used to go by Tiger but my Granmama called me Lightenin Boy as a kid and it stuck so don't blame me for the dumb name! but please, call me by that name mmkay? thx!) are proven groundless and the guy makes an all around kick ass Terminator movie while taking us back to the gripping storyline context of the first 2 films. I just don't get that vibe at all...and even if it is a new version of a dirty and less hottie filled 5th Element, at least there's no dude wearing chicks clothes screaming at the camera half the movie right?
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Wow, the only lucky fella to see T4 and you know fuck all about it.
Harry, inbetween wanking over script girl could please enforce some decent rules re early reviews. It was instantly obvious to numerous people on here that the 'review' was hoax. I f you continue to allow such glaring errors I expect the once great AICN will sink into the putrid lake of festering shit of internet sites that simply sit there for personal promotion rarely relying on genuine info.
I loved the site in it's early days, you could feel the raw love of the subject matter but now it's so well known it relies on the ego's of the writers and owners making daft decisions like Script Slag. Yes Harry, we know you would love a tit wank from her if you have not already but us lot see her space as being a waste of time and a let down to the site.
There's too much ego bloating these days, yes we know you are on cock chewing terms with Tarantino but it's got nothing to do with the site, it's good that you know these people as it add's credit to the site but I don't want to read gushing ass licking column inches about what you are on the night out, how many beers you sank and how in awe of him you are.
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And not one new thing from you. It's ALL in set reports/novelizations, including the bit about Gun's n Roses.Stop saying how you won't tell the ending, or how the ending is no big deal. It was plainly stated that it was gonna divide people, and yet you have no opinion of it? FAIL.Again, cough up something other than what's in the novelization/set reports/interviews/soundtrack cover.THEN, you might get some credibility.In other news, there is a Star Trek film opening today, does anybody know anything about it?
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You tell me how it ends in the novelization, coz Id actually like to know, and Ill tell you in a non-spoiler way how it differs from the film, if it does. Because frankly, I couldnt care less at this point wether you think its fake or not, I wont spoil a major plot or ending for anyone. And you can think thats lame or whatever, but I wouldnt like to go in and read a review, and have it blown away, coz someone just had to be the wiser and tell the surprise ending or major plot twist.
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he's been upstaged in every single movie he's been in with the exception of American Psycho (he was the only one acting in that film) and Empire of the Sun (when he was a fucking kid....:/ and he still hasn't topped that performance). Not to mention he delivers that same monotone fucking accent whenever he slips into American.
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Merrick, your a fucking tool, giving the reviewer (plant or no plant) shit for not knowing who Anton Yelchin is? NO ONE KNOWS WHO HE FUCKING IS! WHO FUCKING CARE IF HE IS CHEKOV!!!!! seriously get a life
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Merrick, your a fucking tool, giving the reviewer (plant or no plant) shit for not knowing who Anton Yelchin is? NO ONE KNOWS WHO HE FUCKING IS! WHO FUCKING CARE IF HE IS CHEKOV!!!!! seriously get a life
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point me to where the Guns'n'roses bit was spoiled? Seeing as a simple google wont find it and I cant be bothered reading through it all. ;-)
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Bale was upstaged in THE MACHINIST?
By what? The fuckin machinery??
Bale was upstaged in EQUILIBRIUM?
By what? Sean Bean's cameo???
TheWaqman was upstaged in this talkback?
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Seriously...the review was average/lukewarm AT BEST. The entire reason one uses plants is to whip UP expectations so the opening weekend is huge...This review tells me I can wait a few weeks before I need to bother seeing it...Seriously.
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Are you implying McG > Cameron ? I know your hatred of T2, and can accept that. But would you defend this statement?
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First off, there's nothing to spoil about Marcus. Its already been all over the internet and is even spoiled in the movie preview. The character "Star" is real. She's in the official authorized prequel to TS book called "From The Ashes". As for those who want to spoil the story for themselvwes, the actual Terminator Salvation novel is now in stores...
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GandalfTW i'm actually starting to believe you. I think you'd have to be pretty loony to submit a review for a film you hadn't seen and in this talkback you seem sane enough tme me.
The problem with your review isn't a lack of detail, it's a lack of personality. It's all so neutral and we get no genuine sense of what you thought of it.
Even a mark out of 10 would be something.
A few posts up, Cellar Door has written a more incisive piece about TS than yours. AND HE HASN'T SEEN IT.
"none of the nuance or inner life that made the first one seem real" for example shows an understanding of how we interpret films and is just one thing you could have brought into your review.
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Yes that's what I was referring to - like you said they will know when they see it now. And I thought your review was on target.
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It gets worst. The same noobs who hated Bale's voice as Batman were all go gay in utterl joy for how Rorsharsh sounded in Watchmen, when in fact the later is even worst sounding and much more raspery and, worst of all, evne talks longer and more often in that movie then Batman's voice in both Batman movies combined. If you ask me, all this complain about Batman's voice it's one of those meme bulslhiot where people repeated without evne thinking about it. I gues for some weird ass reason, people though that would an easy target to get after The Dark Knight, because all else was impossible to get a hit at without them sounding retard.
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Some people easily write pages on pages full of life and personality. And sure that might not come as easy to me. I submitted the review with the knowledge that some editor would be reading it before posting. So if my review wasnt up to certain standards they could have asked me to ellaborate or do something with it. However they did post it, and although I am happy to contribute to a site that I usually just am a user of, I must say the experience hasnt been nice. At least Ive been able to try to tell my point here in talkbacks.
I think I would give it a 7 out of 10, on your scale. As I was actually well entertained and dont think it has any serious flaws. And I actually thank you for telling me about what you like to see in reviews, coz I am sure many people want to read about different stuff, but the only way to learn is by experience.
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it's just a SHITTY review. learn to write ya fuggin' douche...
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What?
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you are one pathetic motherfucker. i mean, really. WHO THE FUCK is so starved for attention as to assume the handle of AICN talkbacker.
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Without a doubt. Bale is at the top of his game. he is getting all of the best projects. Everything he touches is damn good. Love him. This film is gonna knock it out of the park.
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Can all you schmoozers remember when Scotsman75 told us that he had seen the new Indy 4 movie, he told us things, about the film like 'nuke the fridge' and shit like that. Remember then, when all of you were dissing him and saying that its fake bullshit and that he hasn’t seen it yet. Well this might be one of these situations again! So really who gives a fuck if anyone has seen it and posted an early review because nobody can tell what a movie is like until they have seen it for them selves. Isn’t that the point of films to make your own mind up?
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Praise Bale, and all will be forgiven.
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When ever you read a review that starts with a lot of detail then suddenly becomes incoherent and glosses over really important stuff (Arnolds appearance, The end of the fucking movie)...you know its BS.
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You are great, man! You always make me laugh! Guys like you make coming here adn suffering froma ll the AICN's Jay Jay ass kissing bearable. Praise Bale! Professional!
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May 07, 2009 3:27:30 PM CDT
Just go and fucking see the film first.........
by itsme_butwhogivesafuck
Only then can anyone have an opinion about it. You have to see it first before you can say it was Good or Bad. Which mean anyone saying it’s going to suck or even saying it’s going to be awesome is just fucking speculating and kidding themselves. I mean ok everybody has the right to speculate but common what are people trying to achieve by saying all this shit about the film or any film?
Ok here goes... I think the film will fucking rule the universe and every god dam atom that makes up the entire multiverse but also I think it will fucking blow dogs dick and all the parasites living on the dogs dick will slowly eat your tong away!!! "You heard it here first!” -
If you are the real deal, and not a plant, then forgive me my bluntless and take this with with a vote of sympathy and friendship- But the reason why your review is being so criticized and youa re called plant is that your reviews lacks an incredibly amount of personality. It's bland to the extreme. Many plant reviews that have been posted her,e they can be told a mile away because all those who weite them think that being geek and writing like a geek is to try to sound hip and show off some sort of "movie knowledge" that sounds like somethoigh of of a fool who eat up a Robert McKee's bok and barely understood it and vomits all this bullshit about story structure and pacing and plot holes and fucking crap that is just so fake. what plants never understand is that what makes a geek is, most of all, enthusiasm and passion. And those show in the writings. Grammar be damned, structure be damned, but the enthusiasm, it's always there.Your review, however, it's not from the heart. and not from the intelelct either. It's robotic. It's dispirited. It's the kind of review which people who try to look like geeks but don't understand the geek mentality and who might even despise it, would try to come up with.Again, i say, if you are a real deal, i appologise for the harshess of my words, but it's incredibly diffiuclt to take you for real when your review has all the hallmarks of a plant. If you truly are a movie geek, they have a serious problem with a tremendous lack of enthusiasm and passion for the movies, and no "spadinavian laconic attitude" can justify that.
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Really. Thats what you think of the film. Then gosh, I guess I won't see it after all. Thanks for the heads up.
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and if the film holds up, it's a winner.Starts with Marcus execution/signing over life to Dr. Serena.Then the copter landing on the t600 (in trailers) assault on the complex underneath, Connor and team in hallways with flairs (in trailers), finding humans in cages and techs breaking into skynet, they see plans for T800's, Connor goes out to fight, sees HK and gives chase in copter (in trailrs), humans bomb the facility, killing terminators, captives, and all of connors team/command higher ups for his particular company, connor is wounded, t600 wasn't all the way dead, crawls/tries to get him in the copter(in trailers) which crashes in the bombing, Connor executes the top half of the t600 with the gattling gun on the copter (in trailers) and is picked up. Marcus emerges from ground in rain and howls at moon (in trailers). Connor asks copter to take him to Command and they say no. He dives out of copter into ocean where divers take him to sub that is military command. Ironside is there as Gen Ash-whater. Connor says something is wrong, t800's showing up 10 years too early. They say that they have a new weapon and Connor volunteers to try it. Resistance has intercepted a kill list, with all the leaders on it, and Connor is number 2. A civilian Kyle Reese is number 1.(whew) and that's where I stopped. See? I read the dang book and gave more info about what's gonna happen.I'm still reserved about the pg13 and McG, but the footage and Bale will have me there.What's encouraging is that most of the trailers seem to be focusing on the first main battle, so there should be lots of cool stuff that's a first in the theater.Of course, McG ain't Alan Dean Foster, so we'll see. But fingers are crossed. The book reads very serious/intense/adult themed, with lots of army/action stuff going on.
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This review sounds like a fake, but regardless, why is everyone giving the movie a thumbs down before anything visibly negative has surfaced? I mean, I know McG is the director and it is PG-13.....but, go watch the two new trailers and tell me it doesn't look like an awesome movie. The colors and cinematography in the trailers lead me to believe that they, at the very LEAST, got the visual style down to a 'T'. Not to mention, Nolan as a writer and Bale as an actor are enough to counter-weigh any "McG" related worries. I'm confident it will be a good film, perhaps even great....and no doubt better than that corny, one-liner filled Terminator 3. If you ask me, the best Terminator is the first one- it's dark, foreboding and has a very distinct style. The second one is a great and fun film, but it's a bit too cutesy for my tastes (considering that, by that point, Arnold was no longer a menacing killer but a soft and cuddly steroid fueled creature.) Don't get me started on T3- it was nothing more than an excuse to throw Arnold more support for his Political Campaign, ZERO artistic integrity or validity.
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'if I ever try my hand at reviewing again, Ill remember my lessons'
Now you got me feelin' sorry for you GandalfTW. It's also likely from what you told us that English isn't your first language (if I had to submit a review in Danish i'd certainly be on the back foot) so I think that under the circumstances you did ok bro.
Also you got the world's first review of TERMINATOR SALVATION online, and that's kinda cool. Something to tell the grandchildren... -
The answer to your question can be summed up with 3 words: "McG".
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and also he is a cock
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Star Trek Returns. The JJ love over here has got people in a frenzy. I like Trek, and I'll be there tomorrow night. But even the first 3 chapters of the Terminator Salvation novel were so intense and serious that I knew that I'll connect way more to that film.
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And I'm praying to Bale that it is.
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Let's hope Garry Bussy turns up in the next film. And a CGI Ron Silver in the third!
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Now when you get Bale, Ironsides, Bryce Howard, Worthington,McG , and all the rest together in a photo thats what it reminds one of. Praise Bale
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Connor boards the helicopter with Star, Kyle and Marcus and they blow up a big part of Skynet. It just ends by them flying off in the distance. Kinda bluntly like that, just mission accomplished. Are there scenes after this in the movie or does it differ greatly? thank you so much!
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with the fight with the Terminator, Bale shoots a big melting pot and it explodes over the T-100, heating him up. He then quickly shoots a cable and it hoses him down and this causes him to lock up. Bale picks up a pipe and knocks his head off. They then escape on the helicopter.
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What the hell is a melting pot? Do you mean a crucible? And a cable hoses him down. Do you mean a HOSE, carrying liquid or gas of some sort?
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FUCKING PROFESSIONALS!
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He never says, wait. Only 3 times? Oh ok then.
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Wanna see Ironside?
http://www.fandango.com/terminatorsalvationmovietrailer/2_464461/v398155
http://movies.ign.com/dor/objects/615765/terminator-salvation/videos/term_sal_clip_050709.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcYdjHpJUV8
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Too bad none of these work...
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Just make sure you close the spaces when you cut n paste.For some reason,whenever you post links on these boards,you get spaces in 'em!
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Michael Ironside rocks.
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I just saw it over at nuke the fridge.. This fucking movie looks awesome! I can't wait to see it.
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He's great in everything I've seen him. Check out Crime + Punishment in Suburbia.
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do they visit the local Pizza Hut?
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I don't really think that McG is better than Cameron. BUT, I do think this looks a whole helluva lot better than that irrationally overrated p.o.s T2: ROBOWAH! AND I do think that McG appears poised to pwn Cameron; at least in terms of being able to make THE ONLY TERMINATOR SEQUEL THAT NEEDED TO BE MADE -- FUTURE! FUCKING! WAR! Even at Pg-13, it still looks great. (T2 being rated R for reasons that continue to escape me... other than saying "fuck" and the arm scene. Everything else is straight up PG-13 material.)
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...'That 70s Show' Michael Ironside will play 'Red' Forman...you know its true....and he WILL put a foot up your ass...
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Is that what they're shooting for here? Some kinda machine revolution with a faction that wants to integrate with and/or make peace with humanity somehow?
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john is in the cells looking for kyle,but kyle is in serenas lab.john opens a door,and there infront of him is arniold,arnolds terminator 1 music plays,u know the theme when he arrives.he chases john,punches a t 600 in half,tears his chain gun off,as seen in the fist trailer.him and john battle,arnies face gets blasted off,then all his skin gets burned off,they keep fighting and marcus turns up,eventually the t800 is disabled and john knocks his head off,as sceen in tv spot 10 or 11 i think.
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arnies image is in it for around 30 or 40 seconds,it loos great,but dont think this is an arnie movie,most reactions will be,is that it? just remember its only one scene,but a great cameo.
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but, see, cellar door... you're still talking about just the T1000. I agree with you 100% that his 'little' moments were awesome, but, that, to me, was the best part of T2. The rest was soooo much story (and really, Edward Furlong was good? no he WAS NOT. can you say winey baby and some punk kid bossing the T-800 around?) and the ending.... "i know now why you cry...." come on! -----
T3's story had to be convincing enough to make us believe why Judgement day was just delayed...it got right to the point, added some cool plot-twists like this terminator killing connor in the future, and the action was amazing. Plus we saw early Skynet attack vehicles....
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lets hear it scotsman75
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I mean only ONE people thought about posting a tought on the internet? Anyway, the lack of screenings is never a good sign.
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It has to do with John Connors injuries from the fight.
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However, I dont think they are worrying about screening it. I think it will get plenty of positive reviews actually. And yeah, I can imagine we will see reviews popping up sooner rather than later, coz I dont think they messed this up. Judging from peoples reactions to the novelization here, the movie should add to that positive trend.
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After Star Trek, surely this is the most anticipated movie of the summer, so why the silence? Did Christian Bale show up at the screening to warn everyone that if they told anyone about what they saw he'd rip their heads off and piss down their necks? Come on, if you saw it, tell us about it! Does it rock, does it suck, did Bale sort the lighting out? Speak up!
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"a little worse than Terminator 3 in the gory department..." T3 had gore? I can't rem... I tried by best to scrub that entire film from my memory.
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Reading between the lines, kinda thinking he may go a bit Anakin and need some cyborg 'bits and peices' after sustaining some injuries? Unless they transplant his brain in the end into the body / chasis of a terminator? Go on, you can tell us...;-)
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sounds like a bad episode from the Sarah Connor Chronicles.
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"For some reason thats puzzling. Or why they dont just kill off Kyle Reese, as soon as they get him in. Or am I wrong in assuming that Skynet knows that he is Johns father?" I thought in the first Terminator that Kyle said all the records were destroyed in the war... and that John never really talked about his father. Thus, I was led to believe John and his mother kept the whole "father thing" secret.
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With all the firepower used against the terminator models in t1 and t2... and they still wouldn't slow down.... why in terminator salvation M4 Carbines are taking down terminators.
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The future art of war, armour piercing bullets?
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It should play when the T-800 is revealed.
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with John's injuries... they use some robot parts to fix him? ala Luke in Star Wars? lol
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the current art of loopholes.
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I might have to be like two-face and flip a coin over seeing this one.
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..i'im gonna kikc your FUCKEN ASS
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because if not then i will have my revenge in this life or the next.
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Far too long the lowly light tweaker scurrying past professional actors eyelines and residing in dark corners of the sets tending his emotional wounds. After the resistance and the future war, Hurlbut rises from his depths and leads his own dedicated band annihilating both the resistance and the machines to become ruler over all. First Law he orders is extra lights everywhere, solar power ftw!
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That may explain it, coz I was wondering about that.
Yeah the theme music is in the movie.
Sorry HarryBlackPotter, I am not prepared to give that bit away. I feel it may have been too much given away anyways, although it is sufficiently vague to mean a lot of things. :-) -
only joking. Cheers anyway.
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Looking forward to this. No one make a Terminator movie like james Cameron, but I'll still see this.
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Yeah, its cringe-worthy, but you left off the important part of that line. "... but its something I could never do." As much as John was treating it like a friend and parent-figure, it was reminding him of its limitations as a Terminator machine.
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Hope the movie does too.
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...that Bale will trash your lights, fist your mom and leave you naked, bruised and in need of serious fucking dentures. That's an understandable fear - I share it...but it won't keep me from seeing the almighty Bale fuck shit up with impunity.
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Yes..I agree to an extent; especially in the middle 'Mexico' scenes and also the very end. But if the problems are bad lines here and there or the idea that it was dumb to have a punk kid ordering the T-800 around...well, that's how that particular T-800 was programmed.If I could program an oil tanker to follow you around in your little rowboat, would you think it was dumb just because it's freakin huge and weighs millions of pounds? The T-800 is a robot at the end of the day and robots do what they're programmed to do providing their AI is not completely self-determinant. Having the 'punk kid' ordering it around is not remotely a plot hole or even really that dumb. If anything, it means that the character John Connor likely forgot that his younger self would be able to give direct commands to the reprog'd 800 making future Connor even more human (as in making a mistake most of us would make in that situation).But like TDK, there are some cringe inducing moments here and there in an otherwise superb movie, relating to certain lines or the manner in which they were delivered (for me it's 2 times..both of them Bale as Batman talking to the Joker and then Two-face at the end) and for a movie of (to me) equal if slightly less quality than TDK, it's almost too much to hope for to get perfection throughout. Especially considering when some of you would disagree with me on TDK meaning every line worked for some and not others.A tough gig, screenwriting eh? Damned if you, damned if you don't!But for me the themes and context of T2 are infinitely superior to the themes and context of T3. I hated the Terminatrix and not because it was a woman (and yes, Lokken is beautiful) but because the female aspect was a gimmick only to show she could 'inflate' her cleavage. She never attempted to seduce or manipulate anyone but yet here's this beautiful blond girl attracting everyone's attention but yet is supposed to be an "infiltrator". Hiding in plain sight is fine but not if you're a beautiful blond with your main target being a heterosexual male. Meanwhile from the moment she sees John, she's trying to kill him. So where's the infiltration? Just looking human? Then why make her a beautiful girl? To *draw* attention to her? Really? To not? Really?Then there's the issue of magical computer from the future that can somehow use the force of some of that Maximum Overdrive green juice to control vehicles that have no ability to turn their own wheel. By what physics would it turn? How would the onboard computer turn the wheel? Lock the doors? Sure. Not start the engine or flood it? Again, no problem. But to control a vehicle you have to have manipulators to control the physical actions. I can even stretch it to allow for acceleration but not steering. You have to have some type of apparatus in place to enable it to even occur. If it was a drone or robot car, then of course, the mechanics are in place and once she 'takes over' the on board computer, then she could have at it, but just a regular old crane truck? Bollocks!Then there's the whole thing about the killing the lieutenants, again all dumb: as if not having lieutenants would also mean not having other people to become lieutenants. More thinking like a human and not a machine (cut off the head and the snake dies! yaahh!). And if you can encase hi-tech plasma weapons from the future inside skin and send it back in time, why not multiple freakin neutron type bombs that would destroy all organic matter? (ignoring all causality and paradox arguments for the sake of discussion...and this little gem is an issue for all but the first movie).So even if T3 had those little bits and pieces of nuance, they still had what I consider to be monstrously huge plot holes about almost every aspect of the overall story. And I haven't even mentioned a word about continuity from the previous films!T3 is a watchable but forgettable action movie. The only scene I find truly compelling is the end when the Terminatrix (admitted bias: I HATE that god damn name...what is it, a rub/salute to s&m fans? or is it anytime a female version shows up we have to add "trix" to the end? wtf? it's 'predalien' bad and I bet you agree to some extent!) has screwed with Arnie's programming and he's fighting the conflicting programming of killing and protecting Conner. Their interchange is probably better than any of the Conner-Terminator interchanges in T2 but only in that scene.The chase scene is amazing, true but it's nothing compared to the chase scene in Matrix-Reloaded. The stunt work alone on driving that Ducati the wrong way in traffic is simply thrilling every time I see it and I've seen it countless times at this point...and it the whole thing is cgi (its not) then it's some of the best cgi effects I've seen.Oh, sorry for my mini novels and if you did, thanks for taking the time to read! Hopefully I got enough CR's in there to not make your eyes want to kill each other.
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cellar door i liked it more than Reloaded's because it seemed more real, old school style smashing and shith getting torn up. The reloaded was just blatant CGI overload even if it looked pretty.
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He's definitely gone
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Michael Ironside does make shit badass hehehee.. can't wait to go see this flick!!!!... J :-P
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