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Hugh Jackman's gonna be a busy man... and will a WOLVERINE sequel happen... in Japan??
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. God knows I'm not the most observant person in the world, but is it just more is this story on Hugh Jackman at Variety holding a giant nugget of news?
Sure, Wolverine made bank. We knew they were going to continue making X-films, but I wasn't aware that Fox was going to focus only on Wolvie and not develop further X-Men flicks. Those who saw X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE probably noticed the bit with Logan at a bar in Japan after the credits (I didn't get the Deadpool ending at my theater). I wrote that scene off as a nod to the movie they should have made, but that article I linked above seems to indicate that Jackman's Seed Productions is ramping up on the WOLVERINE sequel set in Japan. That said, no writer has been hired, so it could all just amount to nothing.
That article also mentions a ton of films in development which Jackman can pick and choose from. One is called PERSONAL SECURITY, written by Matt Lieberman, about a tough detective who is forced to be the bodyguard of a spoiled teenage heiress. Another is called DRIVE, which is written by Hossein Amini (from a novel by James Sallis) that apparently has Jackman excited, comparing the tale of a race-car driver who moonlights as a getaway driver to a Steve McQueen type picture.
There are also a musical on the docket, including CAROUSEL, which he's trying to get Anne Hathaway involved in (after their great number together at the Oscars I'd love to see the two of them together onscreen)... and a Broadway run in 2010 with HOUDINI, with music by Danny Elfman.
That's a whole lot. Judging by that schedule, and if his Broadway run indeed happens in 2010 then it's unlikely we'll get a Wolverine sequel until 2011 at the earliest.
Odds are some of those projects will fall through or happen without Jackman in the lead.
I didn't much care for WOLVERINE, but there's ripe material there. They just have to make sure their script isn't so haphazard and the effects don't look 12 years too late on the next one... In fact, I've played some of the WOLVERINE video game on Xbox and it's shockingly good. It's buggy, has a lot of the flaws of the movie, but it's almost as if the game developers were embarrassed about the stuff they had to shoehorn into the tie-in and they reworked as much as they could.
Anyway, that's the update on Jackman.
-Quint
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Sound good to anyone else?
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So no more X-Men ensemble films? I can hear Halle Berry's shrill "WHAT?" all the way from Hollywood.
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...was writing "Wolverine 2." Didn't he mention something like that in an interview a couple weeks ago? Anyway it makes sense that they'd focus on Wolverine, since shirtless Hugh Jackman with six giant phallic fingers is probably the only thing that made this movie bankable in the first place.
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As long as we're talking sequels...
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IESB caught up with Donner during the press day for the newest X-MEN film in Beverly Hills this past weekend for an exclusive video interview.
Gambit, she says is one of her favorite characters, he's "such a rogue."
Will we see Gambit in the upcoming X-MEN FIRST CLASS film? Nope, we won't see Gambit in that, he wasn't part of Xavier's first class a the school, but it looks like we may be seeing him in his own spin off film.
Donner says, "There are internal discussions" about a Gambit spin-off and "they are going to figure all that out."
What about bringing back X-MEN and X2 director Bryan Singer for another go around?
"Nothing would please me more than to bring Bryan [Singer] on for another movie. And, if it's like the first Deadpool or the first Gambit, I think, I mean, I hope he would be interested..."
Looks like the X-MEN franchise isn't going anywhere and still has a few tricks up her sleeve.
Deadpool and Gambit are coming if Lauren Shuler Donner has her way, and she usually does.
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Jackman should star in the Clint Eastwood biopic.
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He'd only be wearing his mask for 10% of the movie, because his douche agent would insist we see his face (which also means no scars). Why do you think Spidey's mask gets ripped in every fucking film. Wankers. Also see: Judge Dredd. Guys like Ron Perlman are hard to find.
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We definately need another Wolverine movie. the first one was SO good. Dumb asses. Do they think people will go see it after the shitfest that was this one? I won't even watch the workprint...
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is that what fox claims they do?
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Will he walk away from an explosion in slow motion in that?
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Without placing it BEFORE the events of XMOW, right? Who in the world would believe that Samuris (?) were still in Japan in the 1970's-1980's?
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Watch the cinematics and some gameplay and you'll the movie we should've got in theaters. sigh.
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They could interweve a modern yakuza storyline, with a samurai-type story from the past possibly?
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May 05, 2009 6:24:40 AM CDT
AS IF JAPAN DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS WITH NORTH KOREAN MISSLE
by bringingsexyback
John Cho as Sulu and a sinking economy, they bring Wolverine there. Poor Japan.
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great they fuck up weapon x in xmow now they wana fuck up the japan story as well, fox never learn, they wont be getting my money this time around!
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Fortunately for Fox, movie going audiences also never learn and these kind of movies (even Wolverine part 34: Claws & Diapers, where he raises a baby) will bring in money. These movies aren't developed or artistically created, they are nurtured from Day One from a marketing perspective. Demographics, tie-ins, product placement & happy meals - that's what it's all about. Why whine about stuff like Story, Integrity, Character & Vision while there is more money to be made elsewhere.
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Who cares if Xavier is dead. Eric comes in to run the school or something. His powers return stronger than ever before.
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Why does Hollywood tease me with stuff that should be good but never delivers?
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I'd love a Deadpool flick. I don't think they would've cast Ryan Reynolds without a spin-off in mine. Maybe they should make a Deadpool movie with him going after Wolverine. Hopefully they'll get rid of the arm swords and laser eyes.
Oh, and I wouldn't say no to a Wolverine sequel either. As messed up as the X-franchise is, at lease they're entertaining. -
Samurai I-Am-urai!
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i agree we dont learn(me included)and yeah totally its a business to them thats why movies are in such a bad way now,i guarantee that if wolverine had been a 18 rated and based on the story and driven by the story we wouldint complain, but i do have to say that fox are one one of the worst studios around in the way they change, cut, waterdown and generally abuse films.
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then I could go along with this.
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someone should of closed rothman's mouth instead of deadpool, would of been more entertaining.
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Deadpool get his mouth sewn shut in the comic?
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he didint, that only happerned in the film because fox are fuckups and couldint keep to the story of weapon x.
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Give him back to Marvel and keep churning out Disaster Movies, Fox. You suck, man.
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Wolverine is a star, yes, but Jackman, no. The guy must be desperately searching for something to prove this wrong but i've got a feeling it's not going to happen.It's the Roger Moore effect. People flock to see you when you're a character they like and know, but all of your other movies are doomed to failure.
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if fox were smart they would sell the rights back to marvel, then rothcock could stop interfering in how marvel movies are made and we might just get a decent wolverine film, i doubt it tho considering fox are only out for money and there not going to throw away an investment, the bastards!
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Sorry about the double post but I just finished the game and the way they reworked the story was great. They realized the limitations of the story and actually made a pretty good game. The sentinel battle alone was worth checking it out.
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that the game was better than the movie, i can totally belive that, isint it rated 18 to????
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I was pleasanyl surprised at how well they worked with Gambit. Missed the Cajun accent, though. Seems like they dropped it as soon as he started using it. Would have liked to see if this character could carry a movie of his own.
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Basically, we get a pan of the rubble and one of the arm-swords poking out which begins to retract. A hand emerges from the rubble and then the head. He looks around, mouth is now open where once was closed and he utters "Shhhhhhhhhhhh..." Cut to black.
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*spoiler* - didn't we see his head actually fall off? Is the idea the head regenerated?
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do it right...they can have a casablanca feel to it throw in black widow and cap america during post WWII japna madripoor. only way
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Loved the book.
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It was being made 6 months before the movie was even announced, they were making a wolverine game to appeal to Marvel to green light. Marvel saw the designs, was wowed, and told them to show it to Fox. They did, and Fox gave them bucks to change a few things into the movie game, so in a way, the movie idea was slapped on the game, but since I liked the movie, I also really enjoy the game, because my head isn't stuck up my ass like most of the posters (and reviewers) here and I can enjoy cheap summer fun for what it is.
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otherwise it's pointless... at the end of the day, these prequels have very little tension.
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was really awful. Not fun, not cool and often really ugly looking.
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You would think that's what should have happened, right? That was one of my biggest complaints about the movie. They did several things like that that should not have been able to happen. That's one of them. The adamantium bullet pentrating the adamantium skull is another. There are more...
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why oh why do we think any movie FOX makes with this character will be any good? its not like the material wasn't ripe for this one.
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Does he just find his head and stick it back on like Vyvyan in an episode of THE YOUNG ONES? Does it grow back? Or is Fox just ignoring that the decapitation was shown because they're THAT clueless? My money is on the latter.
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May 05, 2009 8:19:57 AM CDT
"I wrote that scene off as a nod to the movie they should have m
by the_one_man_gang
i mean, cmon man. get off the hate bandwagon.
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You enjoy movies for what they are? And we have our heads up "our" asses? I recall you hating on transformers. Just let me get this straight Wolverine is a fun summer movie, but Transformers is hack and raped your childhood? And the fact that you named the one cliche great flick to make a joke shows that you know shit about what a good movie is. The next time you trying calling talkbackers out, maybe you should go back and read what you have written first.
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is the regeneration. A head re-attachment wouldn't make sense even within the rules of X-Men. Not that regeneration makes perfect sense, but you could argue Wolverine's regeneration abilities were somehow enhanced by Stryker's people. Did the mouth look like it was ripped open? If not I'd go with regeneration cause I'd assumed Stryker had the mouth sewn shut in some way and that wouldn't regenerated.
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I'll take one of these a yr....it would certainly would keep my kids happy
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May 05, 2009 8:30:07 AM CDT
Harry should go ahead and give Wolverine 2 a bad review now
by stan gable
Might as well get the jump on this and advise people not to see Wolverine 2 since it is unlikely Harry and Fox will have made up by then.
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At least that's what it looked like. It was portrayed as if his body was grabbing at the head and pulling at it. One would presume once it's placed back on his neck, it would regenerate to his body. This falls in line with what Wolverine did in Ultimate Hulk when he was literally torn in two, then put himself back together.
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Have you read the most recent Ult. Hulk/Wolverine? SPOILER ALERT: Wolvie is actually a severed head through most of the issue.
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And according to ORIGIN (the book, not the POS you watched on screen), James Howlett was born in the late 1800's near the turn of the century. And since the movie XOW would have us believe that Logan spent every waking minute with Victor fighting in wars, we have to assume that Japan never happened. Unless of course the set in in the 80's and he fights colorful ninjas. And then we can get cameos from Psylocke (who cares that she's British and not Japanese), Gambit (because he is such a rogue), Cable (eh, why not), Maverick, Goose, X-23, Colosus, Longshot, Mojo, lady deathstrike, Nightcrawler, Mystique, and anyone else they can get the rights to. And hopefully we get a Logan dance number, ala Spider-Man 3. now THAT would be awesome!!!!
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I saw a few trailers and it looks like cookie cutter copy of GOD OF WAR. PLAGIARISM!
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is really sweet. Super violent, hacking off limbs, heads and torsos left and right. The cut scenes are badass, it really does make me hate the movie even more because it shows what could have and should have been.
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Seriously, if you don't know the score, why even bring this type of thing up. The game was made by Raven Software, one of the better developers out there, and they were already working on a Wolverine game before Activision decided to use it as a film tie-in. The game is M rated, incredibly violent and brutal, and has very little to do with the movie since almost every encounter plays out differently. I really have no idea what you mean when you claim the game has a lot of the flaws of the film.
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Fucking morons.Too bad the public, especially comic book queers are so fucking brainwashed that they will continue to support garbage like this every time it comes out. And the rest of those potential projects sound like shit no matter who stars in them.
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May 05, 2009 9:27:03 AM CDT
Jackman would do just fine in a Dirty Harry reboot me thinks.
by stuntcock mike
He's got the Clint down.
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Oh, wow. Hadn't read that yet. See, now I'm going to have to pick that up.
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C'mon, they need to work it around to a crossover film with the CRANK series.
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make it happen
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Any good?
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There was a level where you had to reset a computer, and I found the way to get past it was to reset the actual Megadrive. Good times.
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Wolverines healing factor was lessened by the adimantium bonding process not enhanced, his time in Japan was around the 70's 80's and fell in love with the heir to a Yakuza family in tokyo, although he has been in japan well before this, it is this storyline that would be used in the Wolverine sequel.
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will probably be based on the Claremont /Miller miniseries, since that's one of the storylines Lauren Shuler Donner showed Hugh to get him interested in doing "solo" movies. That storyline had a modern setting. You don't have to show Logan in feudal Japan to do a Japan movie. Jackman was particularly excited about doing that story, and if they don't overload it with extra mutants they want to spinoff, it could make a decent film.
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...the character actually had his head cut off and 'healed' back to his torso in the comics. For people who complain so much that the movie makers are 'clueless' in how they use the characters, you people should actually read the comics you rant are getting 'raped'!
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I can't decide if this is a good idea or not, or if there's an audience for it, beyond the real comic geeks. We already had the Holocaust prologue in one of the X MEN films. What else needs to be said about that? I suppose you could bring in Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch, since they probably won't be used in an AVENGERS movie and do that family conflict. I think it makes more sense to just have a younger Magneto as the antagonist of a younger Xavier if they do that X-MEN FIRST CLASS movie. Maybe if Bryan Singer comes back, it might work. He has a real understanding of the character.
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why bother building your hopes up? Don't you see what they are doing? It's like Lucy and Charlie Brown and the football, they are going to get you every time. Grow a pair and stop seeing their movies or at least illegally download them or rent them on NetFlix. Fucking stop it already.
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Silly me for thinking that filmmakers were capable of actually explaining how a character is capable of surviving a decapitation in a film instead of having to research it on Wikipedia or reading the comic book of a character only a select few follow religiously.
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Wolverine sequel? I can wait. Not much anticipation on my end.
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I thought it was pretentious twaddle but some people swear it was a sublime work of art. I think Aronofsky’s best work by far is The Wrestler, which follows a familiar thematic but delivers it in a poignant and profound manner. The Fountain just struck me as art for the sake of art and while that isn’t necessarily a bad thing the film never resonated with me beyond the unique concept. I just found myself immensely bored. Bear in mind however, that's just my own response to the film.
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will have a long career whether he keeps playing Wolverine or not. You guys may not enjoy seeing him in a romantic comedy or a musical, but there are millions of people (especially women) who disagree. Even AUSTRALIA will do well on DVD and Cable with older audiences who like old fashioned films and don't always go to the theater. He's got plenty of projects on his plate and doesn't have to limit himself to action films to keep AICN fans happy.
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The issue is that comic fanboys are seething over how the character was handled yet many of these same people criticize his ability to survive decapitation even though such resilience is explicitly stated within the mythos of the comics. I think his point is that people are very inconsistent with their criticisms, a position I personally agree with.
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wolverine sucked!!!!
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Which is that you apparently have to be a full-fledged fanboy of Deadpool to understand how he can survive a decapitation. It certainly wasn't explained in the movie, so can you honestly be surprised if people are confused by talk of the character's survival? Especially given Fox's treatment of these characters in the past? C'mon now.
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Love someone, loose them then watch again. When he plants the see and says goodbye. Yeah. Pretty solid. But no, its not for everyone and its not a true SciFi movie.
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fuck off and enjoy your money, stop fucking this shit up.
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I don't demand life changing messages from films, so I was able to enjoy it for its rhythym and visuals. It's mostly a whole lot of prettyness, like a Fantasia segment or something.I generally like Hugh Jackman and am rooting for the guy, but The Fountain is the only actual movie he's been in that I've liked.
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Read Miller's trade paperback. Read it again. Then roll it up and shove it up your chuff. Leave it there for a week, yank it down, shred it and smoke the shreddings.Then, and only then, will you be anywhere near steeped enough in the story to press on with a movie version of it. Otherwise, leave well alone, mate, 'cos after that pile of shit I sat through two nights back, you and the rest of the current franchise-holders just haven't got a fucking clue...
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...that was EXACTLY my point. It's like when Harry started ranting that Emma Frost is seen turning into diamonds in the movie!!!!
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...my point is that you are happy to call someone 'clueless' as it fits in nicely with your complaint. I am merely pointing out that, in certsin circles, you are clueless. If you gonna dish it out, mate...
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Considering how piss poor Wolverine was and how it made 90 fucking million it's first weekend, I would expect Fox to greenlight a bunch of spin offs as long as we get morons who wil eat this shit up. Bad writing, Bad Action, and Bad acting can apparently break a couple of hundred million. The public deserves what it gets.
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May 05, 2009 10:53:18 AM CDT
Chicks fucking LOVE Hugh Jackman
by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for
Which is a huge reason why Wolvie is doing so well. They'll keep making them as long as women fork over the bucks to see him standing on a mountain top with his shirt off. Everyone seems to know this except fanboys. Time to wake up to the reality and move on.
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Funny, ain't it?
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Oh, and on the matter of people constantly complaining about Discoball Emma and Deadpool's healing factor, I'm definitely with berksbear and cleric. It's not that
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but I think it's a minor issue considering that the scene takes place after the credits on selected prints of the film. Including that scene is no more egregious than the silhouette of the Phoenix under the water at the end of X2, which meant absolutely nothing to those unfamiliar with the comics. The point berksbear originally made remains valid: these supposedly well-read comic book fanboys seem awfully ignorant of the characters they are insisting have been bastardized when in reality many of the things they are complaining about are rooted firmly in comic book lore. As berksbear mentioned, Harry's foolish little diatribe against Emma's diamond skin, which has been a mainstay of her character in the comic for years, is a prime example of this kind of arbitrary and unfounded slander. I really don’t care if people like the film or not but let’s at least be equitable with the criticisms, especially when oft-venerated films like Spiderman take massive liberties with the characters and still get copious amounts of praise.
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We'll be dealing with Fox produced X-movies forever because you MORONS clamored to a movie you knew was shit. So when the next shitty one comes out, don't blame me, I didn't give them a cent. This weekend I'm throwing my money at Star Trek and hoping that Wolverine takes a huge nosedive in ticket sales.
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All these morons coming back to say, "It sucked!" Nice going, you just rewarded a movie you KNEW AND WERE TOLD WAS GOING TO BE SUCKAGE. And I wish Harry hadn't folded and paid to see it. Fuck everyone who talked him into handing Rothman another $6.
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I watch plenty of art house films and I even buy documentaries but I can also enjoy a film like Wolverine despite it's many flaws. I think calling people idiots for watching an XMEN flick is pretty harsh, especially when you are turning around to watch a Star Trek film. Don't get me wrong, Star Trek looks very good and will probably be far superior to Wolverine, but it's hardly going to be some nuanced, profound work that will endure for centuries. I totally respect that you didn't enjoy Wolverine but at the same time insulting me because I had fun with the film is overkill.
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The entire X-Men franchise is fucking dead to me. Until Marvel gets their shit together and takes their properties away from Fox, or Rothman fucking dies, there's no hope of another decent X-Men movie.
Hell, why don't they get fucking George Lucas to write and direct the next X-Men film? At least THAT would have novelty. Even I would pay to see that cinematic abortion vomit itself onto the silver screen. Oh, and they should totally make it an IMAX 3-D movie, working in tons upon tons of shitty, awkward "pop-up" shots. God, that would be glorious! -
count me on the side that considers it sublime art. The movie made %99.9 sense and what you saw in it was not abstract, it was a cohesive narrative that the viewer assumes is abstract since it takes such crazy leaps.
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Casino Royale, Prisoner of Azkaban, Attack of the Clones - the films that preceded them were truly dire, but they all show that it's possible to save a film series. Fox should get someone who knows their shit (Joss Whedon?) to give this series a proper kick-up-the-ass.
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...your voice of reason on an AICN talkback is like stumbling across an oasis in a desert!
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I have a feeling more "X-Men Origins" movies just wouldn't be very good. They would likely have the same flaws that everyone hated in X-Men 3 and Wolverine. Namely, too many mutants, an over-reliance on action, and the limitations of being a prequel. Jackman is what saved Wolverine at the box office, and the main priority should be on making a better sequel.
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it put the last nail in the coffin. It signals a turning point, where George Lucas stopped following his own (questionable) artistic instincts and began pandering to the fans, with terrible results. 'we want more lightsaber battles, more action, less politics, less Jar Jar (ok, not a bad thing) it was too slow, too boring, etc etc). Regardless of Phantom Menace's shortcomings, when you look back and actually re-watch all 3 films, it's the only one that feels like a real film. Lucas's sensibilities had obviously changed, and I would have been interested to see what episodes 2 and 3 would have been like if he had stuck to those more grown up, sober sensibilities. Yes, 2 and 3 would have had a lot more politics, and a lot less action, but I'm positive they would have had more substance than how they turned out. Because episodes 2 and 3 aren't the movies George was planning to make, they're the Id desires of the fans from forums like these, filtered through a limited filmmaker who couldn't stop listing to the childish global focus group that is the Internet.
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I know you're supposed to strike while the iron is hot but we don't need him burning out. I was already worried about him because of the crazy workout regime he's been on and off over the years playing Wolverine one minute then Peter Allen next then bulking up again. If they were going to do another Wolverine I feel like they should have done it back to back or at least had it ready to go right now if this was successful. This way he wouldn't have to compromise his health for cripes sake. I mean that can't be good for you right? And then a Broadway show is going gave him going non-stop for however long it runs. I'm tired just thinking about it.
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Maybe they can make up for the mistakes in the first version, but they need a kick ass writer to pull it off.
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Don't answer that haha. Anyhoo... In the gazillion times you guys have recommended that someone or some studio "get Joss Whedon" has anyone ever gotten Joss Whedon?
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It's so easy to get into nasty, mud slinging matches online but really, to what end? Truth be told, most of the people on AICN, were you to run into them out there in the real world, are probably amiable, nice fans who could shoot the shit on any number of fun, geeky topics. My biggest problem is that people seem so overtly negative when all I want to do is have some fun. There is room for intelligent debate and discussion but some of this shit really does get crazy.
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Logan will be the clueless gaijin that learns a valuable lesson from the Japanese; a la "The Last Samurai".
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I'd love to see Hugh in some great iconic tough guy roles. Small gritty crime movies and sweeping epics that unleash his badassness. Instead we get Australia and Van Helsing. I hope he does some good movies before his expiration date comes due. (he's in his 40's now)
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You still provide an interesting theory because while I think Lucas still made the films he wanted to make I do think some of his execution might have been influenced by the overwhelming hatred for Phantom Menace. I actually love the prequels and while they have some flaws I think those flaws are also present to some extent in the original films. I actually think overall Sith is the best of the entire endeavor, and this is coming from a kid who’s earliest film going memory is seeing ESB in the theater. I think Lucas infused the prequel trilogy with a great deal of social commentary and complex mythological allusions and I also think how Anakin became Vader was so much more interesting than the idea of a power grab. That said, your post makes me wonder if the rabid, overtly nasty response to Menace (which still to this day retains some amazing scenes in my honest assessment) perhaps had a greater influence on his subsequent work on Clones and Sith than he let on in interviews.
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He does rugged well and he looks a great deal like Eastwood so he would be perfect for a Dark Tower adaptation. However, I'm scared shitless of how badly they would probably fuck that up.
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if not for the casting of Hayden Christenson. He played the role too whiny, and it seriously detracted from our ability to connect with the character. Not that the writing wasn't responsible for douching up Anakin Skywalker, but Hayden is ultimately responsible for having him come off as a teenager, stomping away from a fight with his parents, rather than a *man* making the wrong choices.
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Robert Knepper. Absorb that one. Let it sink in a bit. Separate him from the scumbags he plays, and consider how utterly worn, old and hardened he looks for his age. I think he would be an awesome underdog for Roland.
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Fox likes to beat a dead horse into the ground until it's no longer profitable. Evey single X film that has come out to date has been MOSTLY about Wolverine. X-men has lots of different character, how about movies about them?
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Can we at least agree that bringing an entire nuclear water tower down thanks to Deadpool's severed head still blasting away with Cyclops' ruby energy blasts was absolutely ridiculous?
Or was that also rooted firmly in comic lore in another issue of CABLE AND DEADPOOL?
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And my mutant smelling ability was dampened when I had aluminium bonded to my scrotum.
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in the first five minutes of the first X-Men (Magneto in concentration camp) then there was in all of wolverine. Give us a good magneto story without McKellen. The young effect is not up to that challenge.
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Silver Samurai,Lord Shingen,Mariko....And Wolverine will be a foot taller than all of them.
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Why would anyone escaping from a teleporter run up a tower where you can't run away to safety?How shiny is Wolverine's claws that they can reflect a prolong optic blast?Why are all these powerful mutants imprisoned in flimsy wire cages like chickens?Where did the $150 million budget go to?...certainly wasn't in the effects.Why did they reshoot the Japan ending?..was the first actress not chinky/jappy/nippy/slanty enough?
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In fact it was ridiculous, but also
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I just didn't like what it was making sense about. New Age bookstore b.s.
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...if Wolverine makes more than 15 mil next weekend. I've heard a lot of people in my neck of the woods who highly disliked it, or weren't impressed.
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No reason at all to turn him into a supermutant freak. They could have simply had Reynolds keep the persona from the first half of the film (which was cool) and have him fight Wolverine like that. After all, he was part of the weapon X project too.
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before the movie, thats why it doesnt suck. the only thing hey had to do was mix it in to the movie world.
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May 05, 2009 1:10:32 PM CDT
show of hand if you hated it but paid for it opening weekend any
by bmacsmith
congrats on being part of the problem, sheep.
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May 05, 2009 1:10:50 PM CDT
show of hand if you hated it but paid for it opening weekend any
by bmacsmith
congrats on being part of the problem, sheep.
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May 05, 2009 1:28:28 PM CDT
PLEASE make it the Kitty Pryde/Wolverine mini-series story!!!
by unit1421
I loved that mini-series, AND it's where Kitty became Shadowcat. They could adapt it with little or no changes as it is.
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check IGN's news from yesterday, they ran a story from the game developer. Said he was working on the game before the movie started shooting, and a lot of the stuff from their game story found its way into the movie script, including major characters who werent in the shooting script for Wolverine but made it into the movie.
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Deadpool being a mute, shooting lasers from his eyes and having retractable adamantium-kitana-claws is considered doing the character right?
his nickname is "the merc with a mouth", so they take his mouth away....and then he shoots lasers from his eyes!
OH and he can use cyclops' power without needing the red-glasses that keep him from always blowing shit up....yeah...totally nailed the character. -
Hate the film before seeing it? Again, if you want to stone people for watching shit movies, toss a rock at me for going to see that Psycho remake by Gus Van Sant. At least then I could understand the anger. Also, I wish somebody had brained me while I was sitting through Deathproof in the theater.
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Cyclops actually needs the glasses after his eyes are damaged in the comics. Originally, he was able to control the optic blast. But yes, what they did to Deadpool was unfortunate. Especially considering how well they nailed him early on.
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Funny shit. While explaining how such crappy movies are ruining America (I know, it's satire, but with more than a grain of truth)he sums up the movie's portrayal as: "He has ripped abs, awesome claws, and the power to make anything behind him blow up." Yep. That seems to be what they were going for.
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Roger.
And yeah, I actually went to see this movie soley because Ryan Reynolds was PERFECT casting for Wade/Deadpool. After I heard about the alternate ending (Which wasn't in my print, I got Wolvie in Japan) where they show deadpools mouth cut open and him still alive, making a smartass "Shhh" with his severed head, I got geeked. If Reynolds can reprise his role, and they write deadpool into a movie to where he's a supporting character and not a plot device, I can imagine the sequel actually being decent. -
The Fountain was fucking brilliant. However I completely understand why many people hate it. While I actually love a movie so dense that it takes three viewings to subsume intellectually, making that kind of movie is pretty fucking pretentious be necessity. Not many directors just assume that people will be willing to sit through a convoluted, non-linear story more than once, but in cases like this it just makes the movie more rewarding by requiring the viewer to make an effort in untangling it in their head. Of course, most Americans don't want to have to think about plot or what a movie means, hence Wolverine makes good $$...
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Sorry. For a second there I thought I was fucking Stryker typing words into his keyboard to control Deadpool(!)Motherfuckers! Who the fuck writes shit like that? Who THEFUCK WRITES INTO THEIR SCRIPT THAT ONE GUY WILL CONTROL ANOTHER BY TYPING IT INTO THEIR FUCKING KEYBOARD!?!?Are they giving scriptwriting jobs to anyone now? Just handing out the jobs to anyone walking by?"Hey, you! What do you reckon would be a good idea for a movie?""One guy controls another guy using a keyboard. Y'know, like how people play video games but even lamer.""Congratulations! You're writing Wolverine!"I....i.....i'm done.
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May 05, 2009 2:10:33 PM CDT
It doesn't matter if Deadpool was decapitated in the comics
by industrykiller!
First of all it certainly didnt go down like it did in Wolverine. Secondly, its not like thats an essential story element of Deadpools character that needs to, or should be, replicated. The serialized nature of comics means that plenty of bad stories will be written, it doesnt justify films following suit, copying the worst these stories have to offer when there are plenty of good ones. If in Iron Man 2 Tony Stark becomes a neo-fascist authoritarian it still terrible storytelling even know it happened in the Civil War Storyline. Or if in Spider Man 4 Peter took a serum that gave him six arms.
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May 05, 2009 2:14:30 PM CDT
Fuck anything that involves any combination of Fox, X-men, and c
by il_deuce
fuck it in it's invincible, decapitated head.
I kind of hope some kid decapitates some other kid reenacting scenes from Wolverine and it finally kills this franchise with bad press.
That's it... I'm gonna run around and hand random impressionable kids tickets to Wolverine and sharp katanas. Then, we'll see what happens. -
WHO?
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If he was given retractable katana-ish longblades, how the hell does he bend his elbows when they're retracted? Are the blades bendable?
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You paid for it even though, you know knew in your gut that you would regret. You fucking caved to peer pressure and went with your friends anyway instead of warning them and telling them that they were about to get cinematically sharted on.
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May 05, 2009 2:25:39 PM CDT
I want this movie made just see Harry cry some more
by glory_fades_immaxfischer
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...funny thing saying that people (like myself) who went to the cinema to watch this movie "caved to peer pressure". All I see on here are a group of people reinforcing each other's negative opinions on the film so that they don't go and watch it!! We ain't the sheep, mate!
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May 05, 2009 2:32:13 PM CDT
I think FOX gave the Fanboys exactly what they wanted
by obese_wan_kenobi
Fans were crying for Gambit (A lousy character) crying for Deadpool etc. So FOX just put in these characters expecting fanboys to gobble them up. Unfortunately they don't have a clue as to how to execute them. What studio execs really need to do is stop trolling sites like AICN and listening to complaints from the talkbackers. My other example is the abomination known as Venom in Spider Man 3.
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so you're basically saying that we're a support group for each other to keep each other from watching it?
Well... where the fuck were you assholes when I finally watched Southland Tales?! Huh?! You let me the fuck down!!!
Anyway... sillyness aside... I think you're wrong. I really don't need this raggedy band of crusty assholes to tell me what to watch and what not to watch. I decided, way back when I watched X3 that I wanted anyone at Fox that had anything to do with the making of that flick to die, long, excruciating and wet deaths. And I wanted all their loved ones to get AIDS. I lost all hope for this series back then. When the Wolverine movie was announced, it peaked my interest. When I saw that trailer and read the script, I knew that this was going to be complete and utterly unwatchable shit. Actually, I'd rather stare at my own shit for an hour and a half than have to watch this again.
oh yeah... I watched it. I just didn't pay to watch it asshole. I'd be damned if I was going to give Fox more money to make more of this bullshit. All of you assholes that simply HAVE TO WATCH IT OPENING WEEKEND, you're the fucking sheep. Whatever though. You're out 8 bucks and all you have to show for it is a small gap in your soul. I hope that you feel good handing your money over to those fucking cinematic and creative rapists at FOX. -
These scripts have been written for years... they are called comic books. Use them.
example...
Logan: Path of The Warlord
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...how old are you? I mean, really, what age is the person who writes: "And I wanted all their loved ones to get AIDS"?
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Nuff said.
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Wolverine was pretty much an X 4 with a new cast.
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I don't understand why some people find Gambit to be an interesting character. Why? Is it the comedic accent? His powers are lame, a rip-off of the superior Bullseye with the cards, and he's about as integral to the X-Men as Longshot--but at least Longshot had a mullet!
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Oh wait.. not AIDS. I meant, ADIDAS. I want them all to get footwear.
Seriously though... AIDS. Or the Herpes. Whatever as long as they feel as fucked over as I did when I finally watched that piece of shit movie. Honestly... I don't really care about the well being of anyone that had anything to do with those movies. I'm pretty sure that they're all soulless monsters anyway. No human with a soul or half a brain could've done that.
and fuck you asshat for insinuating that I'm immature. Exaggerator? Maybe. Immature? Fuck you. -
It was OK if you aren't a comic fan or into anything like continuity of real world events which the story is set in.
The event at 3 Mile Island (where the final battle took place) happened in 1979. Yet before that Wolvie destroyed a couple Humvees which BTW weren't put into production till 1985 (engineers began initial concepts in 1979, not prototypes).
Stryker had to use old (time accurate) bulky hand held 2 way radios, but had turn-of-the-century computers, weapons, and transport aircraft.
Those are the most obvious 2 problems, but I know of more, and could probably find more if I watched it again.
I'm glad I waited till a Monday Matinee, as to not give the studio my $14 on opening weekend.
On the bright side for them my 10 year old who has no idea of the true X-Men and Wolverine back story loved it. -
Damn. No wonder nobody knew what I was talking about when I came out with "Baraka wins...fatality!"
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Gambit can actually infuse kinetic energy into any object, he just uses cards because they are light and easy to store. I've never seen anybody compare him to Bullseye. I personally like the character because he's always been a bit of an anti-hero type, often with his own agenda.
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Don't try to think down to the single-digit IQ levels of a Fox exec, man, it just hurts your head.
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Gambit is a bell-end.
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I have to say I just don't understand why all you nerds hate this movie so much. I love Wolverine comics and have been reading them since I was a little kid and thought the movie was fucking great. Hugh Jackman is fuckin brilliant as the character. He owns that role. I don't understand what everyone was expecting. It was so entertaining and well paced and everyone was attacking the FXs but I didn't think anything of them. Nothing was so bad that it warranted a comment. I mean the LORD OF THE RINGS contain some of the worst FXs I've ever seen and at parts looks like a made for tv movie.
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Please take a moment to step back, turn around, bend over and fuck yourself.
Or better yet. Go buy some more tickets to this garbage and go watch it over and over again until all you can say is "Wuuulbbbereeeene izzz coool..." as drool rolls down chin. -
Shit, I'd see that.
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Anyways, I'm having a great day and finally posted my first music video up... Here's what a fellow Aintitcool brother has got to offer. The first of many lets hope..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzJ3tTumSBo ...lemme know what you guys think. love you all
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Lemme guess. Your under twenty-two, right? If so, your 'childhood' Wolverine reading consisted of all the Kubert-era X-shit that killed the franchise. Google the name 'Claremont' and educate yourself, kid.
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if it looks like shit, smells like shit, and everyone says its shit, its probably shit. if you have to watch it, at least wait a few days or download it so the idiot studio doesnt look at the opening weekend a greenlight more shit. im tired of whiny geeks complaining about the quality of movies and shelling out money anyway. Bunch of enablers.
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He was good back in the day, but since he left uncanny the first time around his books were simply boring. Did you read Sovereign Seven, or his last X-Men run in 2000? gruesome stuff
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And anything else...but his throwing of playing cards was iconic during Miller's great run on Daredevil.
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They can make a terrible sequel for Wolverine Origins and people will still go see it!Thats the real beauty for Fox, they don't have to listen to anyone, they can make the same inferior product and people will still go see it!Fox can even leak the workprint to the sequel and people will STILL go see it!Fox may have stumble upon a unlimited money-making machine of ignorant people!I think I'm going to work for Fox!
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for the sequel to Wolverine Origins.Fox not listening because their too busy laughing all the way to the bank!
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than say the Movie that it's based on.Hmm methinks i should purchase a copy of WO for the Xbox 360.Used of course.
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Lemme guess, your a fat shit with a small dick who does nothing but bit ch about how much Micheal Bay sucks?! I'm 26 years old and have read Claremont comics. I love um! I love the character and understand from the very beginning that a Wolverine movie made by Hollywood would be like this. It's the best THEY could have done. So, instead of bitch about shit. I decided to go into the movie and have fun instead of being a little bitch about it. It's a cool fun B-Movie!!
This is what I'm talking about with you nerds always thinking your better then everyone else and that no movie is ever good enough for you unless there is Hobbits running around. IT'S ONLY A MOVIE!!! -
Lemme guess, your a fat shit with a small dick who does nothing but bit ch about how much Micheal Bay sucks?! I'm 26 years old and have read Claremont comics. I love um! I love the character and understand from the very beginning that a Wolverine movie made by Hollywood would be like this. It's the best THEY could have done. So, instead of bitch about shit. I decided to go into the movie and have fun instead of being a little bitch about it. It's a cool fun B-Movie!!
This is what I'm talking about with you nerds always thinking your better then everyone else and that no movie is ever good enough for you unless there is Hobbits running around. IT'S ONLY A MOVIE!!! -
-that's a NH joke for you-
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comparing American pilsners? I mean really, there's about that much [picture thumb and index finger held very close together but not touching] difference in quality from one to the next. Of course, last summer Nolan offered us something more on par with say a Guinness, or at the very least - Yuengling, but in the greater scheme of movies, it's all cheap swill. I'll break it down as such:X-Men = Bud LightX2 = BudweiserX3 = Bud IceWolverine = Bud LimeSpider-Man = Milwaukee's Best LightSpider-Man 2 = Milwaukee's BestSpider-Man 3 = Milwaukee's Best IceFantastic Four = CoorsFF2 = Coors LightIron Man = Pabst Blue RibbonIncredible Hulk = MichelobHulk = National BohemianDaredevil = KeystoneElektra = Keystone LightGhost Rider = Colt 45Punisher (Lundgren) = BuschPunisher (Jane) = Busch LightPunisher: War Zone = IcehouseWatchmen = Hamm'sBatman = Miller High LifeBatman Returns = Miller Genuine DraftBatman Forever = Miller LiteBatman and Robin = Miller ChillSuperman = Natural IceSuperman II = SchlitzSuperman III = BlatzSuperman IV = Red DogSuperman Returns = Rolling Rockand so on and so on.Point being, if you're just looking to get drunk, watch a comic book movie.
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and Marvel managed to make an awesome 37 minute animated film that NAILS the Weapon X program, deadpool, Sabretooth, Lady Deathstrike, etc. And FOX's version pales in comparison.
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Not the old-timey samurai
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at times feels like a work print coz of bugs.
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I enjoy most of what I go to see because I pretty much know what I'm getting into ahead of time. Of course there are ugly shocks from time to time but generally speaking I am forgiving if the film in question entertains.
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...27yrs old?!!! Bloddy Hell!! And your idea of reasoned argument is: "step back, turn around, bend over and fuck yourself"??!! I wouldn't say you are immature - that would be crediting you with too much intelligence!! (get a grown up to help you with any big words in this message, ok?)
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We all know Wolverine will have a massive drop off.
I refuse to see the film.
Please get Stallone to direct.
Please don't make this a muddled and compromised mess.
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I've actually been put off by all the bad reviews. Genuinely, I've thought I'll save myself the £11 (that's what it costs in London, dammit!). If I really really want to see it, I can always get it on DVD for half that price in about a year.
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So now after all the pissing and moaning, you "Geeks with a Whine" will get your precious "Merc with a Mouth". Happy now? Somehow,I doubt it....
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I agree with those pointing out not slight plot holes and ridiculousness but the GLARING ONES.
I just wanted some blood, I just wanted to see that when wolverine stabbed someone that there would be blood on his blades.
ALSO, someone help me out here, from what I remember wolverine is like an expert in hand to hand combat, is nimble and moves a lot when fighting ala his fighting style in hulk vs wolverine.
but in the movie he seems to just be swiping away without any tactical thought, until the END when he cuts off deadpools head, where for some reason just realizes HEY! i can sever appendages!
also maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but in the movie when team x is "storming" that compound in africa.....what exactly was logans contribution there?
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http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2009/05/deadpool-spins-off-to-fox-film.html
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Was there a Deadpool secret ending of which I was unaware?
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I'm sure Fox wishes all movie-goers are as easy to please as you.
and I ain't chubby. You must be talking about BiggusDickus. I'm 185lbs. As for my cock... I'd post a link to a picture of it for you, but I won't because you would more than likely just fall in love with it.
and Berksbear... find me someone intelligent to argue with and I'll argue intelligently. For now, I'll have to keep it at this level for you and the rest to understand. (swearing and references to my cock seem to appeal to this audience) -
Page for page, panel for panel.
Incredible Hulk sequel and Wolverine done right.
two cool actors.
That is killing two birds and than getting stoned.
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Are you the fricking 80's Tipper Gore of this fricking forum now? What doth invoke such cuntish behavior?
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Love all you guys - especially the ones who didn't see the movie and WON'T see the movie and feel all superior about it, because you watched a free pirated download copy but will still spend hours on this talkback verbally abusing anyone that did see it, and trying to convince them of how wrong they are. Seriously, in the immortal words of William Shatner: "Get a life." It's a fucking kid's movie - what did you expect?
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...wolverine broke box office records in UK. YES! Excellent. Oh dear, it's almost as though AICN haters are pathetic losers whose opinions mean jack-shit!
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