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Francis Ford Coppola Trailers TETRO!

Beaks here...

Though movie lovers are constantly hoping for one more epic triumph from Francis Ford Coppola, it sounds like the seventy-year-old maestro is done with the large canvas. "I feel like I'm doing what I wanted to do when I was 18," says Coppola of 2007's YOUTH WITHOUT YOUTH and the forthcoming TETRO. "As a young man I had an old man's career; now maybe as an old man I can have a young man's career." After THE GODFATHER saga, THE CONVERSATION, APOCALYPSE NOW and the unjustly maligned ONE FROM THE HEART, Coppola owes us nothing. He's earned the right to make small, personal movies that perhaps mean more to him than they ever could to a random audience member. Let's just hope that, with TETRO, he's concocted something a little more involving than the frustratingly inscrutable YOUTH WITHOUT YOUTH. What do you think? (And I highly recommend you check this trailer out in HD.)


Very pretty. I can't wait to see how he integrates those color ballet sequences into the film. And that car wreck that occurs midway through the trailer looks downright ferocious. I'm sure the Vincent Gallo-Klaus Maria Brandauer dynamic is meant to mirror Coppola's relationship with his composer father, Carmine, but the director has been careful to note that this is nothing like an autobiography; rather, it's a fictional tale incorporating "memories and emotions from his early life" (I wish I had memories of fooling around with Maribel Verdu during my twenties). TETRO is also Coppola's first original screenplay since THE CONVERSATION. No pressure there. TETRO will kick off Director's Fortnight at this year's Cannes Film Festival, and will open in limited release in the U.S. on June 11th.

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  • May 4, 2009, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Coppola hasnt made a good film in 15 years

    by Glory_Fades_ImMaxFischer

  • May 4, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    So it's 2 hours of 4-block pieces falling to Russian folksongs?

    by ricarleite2

  • May 4, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Still waiting on Jack spinoff starring Fran Drescher

    by Dr_James_Wilson

    Make it happen, Frank.

  • May 4, 2009, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Anybody slating Coppola

    by kwisatzhaderach

    deserves the 'work' of JJ Abrams, Michael Bay, McG and all the other hacks.

  • May 4, 2009, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Nice to see him doing artistic works again

    by Charlie_Allnut

    No more Jack train wrecks please.

  • May 4, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by codymr

    I don't know man... as much as I LOVE to love FFC, the guy has had his fair share of stinkers - especially of late. But, I'm always looking forward to his return to greatness.

  • May 4, 2009, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Your right.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Coppola owes us nothing.

  • May 4, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    kwisatzhaderach

    by codymr

    But, I would take FFC's worst work over the shit put out by Michael Bay or that McG guy... I have yet to see anything Abrams has done on the big screen and I don't follow LOST, so I'll reserve judgment for him.

  • May 4, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    Talent deserves multiple chances

    by ByTor

    When you do the Godfather movies and Apocalypse Now, you get as many do-overs as you want.

  • May 4, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Will the trend continue?

    by cifra

    2007, Best Supporting Actor, Javier Bardem in No Country For Old Men. 2008, Best Supporting Actress, Penelope Cruz in Vicky Christina Barcelona. 2009, Best Suporting Actress, Maribel Verdú in Tetro? Wishful thinking, maybe.

  • May 4, 2009, 2:05 p.m. CST

    I liked Youth Without Youth

    by Samuel Fulmer

    I'm baffled by the terrible reviews it got. I guess everyone was hoping after 10 years he'd make a masterpiece. It was no masterpiece, but I'd put it above much of his 80's output (other than Rumble Fish). At least unlike Lucas this guy puts his money where his mouth is and makes real small films. Lucas is too busy digging up old franchises and tarnishing their legacy.

  • May 4, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Youth Without Youth was beautiful but incomprehensible

    by reflecto

    I hope this is better.

  • May 4, 2009, 2:20 p.m. CST

    Getting a Rumble Fish vibe

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Not just in the cinematography. The dream like atmosphere seems to be harkening back to Rumble Fish.

  • May 4, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    Looks beautiful

    by blakindigo

    as did "Youth Without Youth," but I'm not sure if the style will be more 'traditional' and audience inclusive. <br> Cinematography reminds me of Gordon Willis' "Manhattan" or "Stardust Memories"—intimate and sharp with detail; rich contrast of lights and shadow. Want to see this…

  • May 4, 2009, 2:24 p.m. CST

    He's 70?!

    by Jor-El23

    Jeez

  • May 4, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST

    I Prefer TETRIS

    by Captain_James_T_Kirk

    The best game ever!

  • May 4, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    RUMBLE FISH And TETRO

    by mrbeaks

    I can only find this at the IMDb, so beware, but Coppola has evidently said that these two films are connected spiritually as well as aesthetically. I think RUMBLE FISH is a spirited mess, but I'll take it over nearly every movie I've seen this year.

  • May 4, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST

    i am beyond

    by JohnGaltShrugged

    excited for this movie.

  • May 4, 2009, 2:35 p.m. CST

    One of the greatest

    by most excellent ninja

    I would be estatic to have The Godfather in my filmography, let alone Godfather part 2, Apocalypse Now and The Conversation.

  • May 4, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST

    We Need Some Dancing Russians in This!

    by Captain_James_T_Kirk

    You know, the ones that come out during the intermissions....

  • May 4, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    incredible...

    by ColloquiallyBorn

    anything in black and white with bad camera angles and some soft spoken words can now be presented as "Art Movie"... this flick looks like shit... Coppola needs to get his head straight ...

  • May 4, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Coppola should stick to making wine...

    by TurdontheRun

    The truth about Coppola is that he made four very brilliant movies in the 70's, and that almost everything fore and aft of that has been mediocre to terrible. What's more, he has become a pompous bore in his old age, whittling on endlessly about how people should make 'personal' films (and not just talking about hacks like bay, McG, etc., but even taking pot shots at people like spielberg, scorsese, scott, etc. as well as actors like de niro, pacino, and nicholson). Who is he to judge what constitutes a 'personal' film to any artist? This is the man that made guff like The Rainmaker and Jack just to pay off his debts, for fuck's sake. And don't get me started on his priviledged director kids... Tetro looks like more pretentious nonsense from this has-been, and the fact that it is an antidote to trash like Transformers, T4, GI Joe, etc., is very small praise indeed....

  • May 4, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Does Vinny Gallo get sucked off in this one, too?

    by Darth Busey

    Hoping FFC can make one more masterpiece before he kicks.

  • May 4, 2009, 2:52 p.m. CST

    saw this first at NukeTheFridge.COM

    by stanlee90039

    Guys we know u loved STAR TREK but you can report other stuff too.

  • May 4, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Say what you will about Youth Without Youth...

    by rbatty024

    but at the very least it was an interesting film. A complete mess of course, but still an interesting film. This looks like it has the inherent drama that Youth Without Youth was missing. I would love for Coppola to come back in full force.

  • May 4, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    ByTor

    by Prossor

    "When you do the Godfather movies and Apocalypse Now, you get as many do-overs as you want." Aint that the truth. Other directors havent even had 1 movie as good as godfather 1,2, Apocalypse Now. Even Scorsese who keeps pumping them out at the speed of screwing monkeys never reached those heights. I would love for Coppola to do something on the scale of Apoc Now again but it would probably end up killing him anyway if he did it with the same devotion.

  • May 4, 2009, 3:18 p.m. CST

    You know what I'm looking forward to?

    by Christopher3

    Another AICN interview with Gallo!

  • May 4, 2009, 3:22 p.m. CST

    70!? Damn Francis, time to make your sci fi film

    by Chuck_Chuckwalla

    These small films are all well and good but I know Coppola's dream project is Megalopolis — a sci fi movie that takes place in a futuristic New York. Time to cash in the wine money and do it. And speaking of wine, I was up at his winery a few years ago and we spotted him getting into a yellow corvette.

  • May 4, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    He's like Film's Muhammad Ali!

    by maliswan

    This man has been kicked in the mouth a thousand times and he still gets up every morning to brush his teeth. God bless him! I hope he's got another ten stories in him...Or, better yet, he needs to open a film school with Werner Herzog!

  • May 4, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    You people are so fucking melodramatic

    by Chadley BeBay

    "Coppola owes us nothing." Stop being such suckasses. Jack was flaming shit. In my book if you create flaming shit instead of art, your value as an artist decreases. I love Quadrophenia, but the Who still put out some unholy-awful albums, which keeps them from being one of the GREATEST bands of all time. Thats what happens when people make shit.. It fucks with their rep. Stop being so goddamn sanctimonious about it.

  • May 4, 2009, 3:39 p.m. CST

    "which keeps them from being one of the GREATEST bands of all ti

    by gavdiggity

    Yeah, except that The Who IS one of the greatest bands of all time. <P> So there's that...<P>

  • May 4, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Okay...

    by Chadley BeBay

    In the grand scheme of things... they are one of the greatest 50 or so bands.. I will give you that. They are not even close to a lot of other artists however.

  • May 4, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    and...

    by Chadley BeBay

    the point is, they would be in the top 5 if not for the albums full of flaming shit.

  • May 4, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Artists should be allowed to fail...

    by rbatty024

    so long as they fail in interesting ways. Jack was a terrible movie with nothing redeeming so it doesn't get a pass. However, something like Youth Without Youth, which ultimately wasn't a good film, was at least an interesting film. You could tell Coppola was trying for something new. That is the kind of failure that doesn't hurt a career.

  • May 4, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    The Red Shoes

    by CorpseRide

    The waer washing up onto the Ballet Stage is a direct lift from The Red Shoes - not surprising given that Michael Powell was appointed Senior Director in Residence at the short-lived Zoetrope studios. Judging from this trailer, Tetro looks to be (at least in part) a love letter to Powell and his great ballet movie.

  • May 4, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Red Shoes (cont)

    by CorpseRide

    ...that means the father-figure will most likely contain an echo of The Red Shoes' uber-patriach, Lermentov.

  • May 4, 2009, 3:54 p.m. CST

    "waer" = "water", of course

    by CorpseRide

  • May 4, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST

    wow. Pretentious much, Francis?

    by Fortunesfool

  • May 4, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    B&W = pretentious?

    by gavdiggity

    got it.

  • May 4, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Well....its pretty. Thats about all I can say for it.

    by Mike_D

    Doesn't look entertaining at all. Just my opinion.

  • May 4, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    blah blah blah

    by Basehead

    "coppola hasnt made a good film in 15 years" yeah yeah his output has been sooo overwhelming as well. plus the rainmaker wasnt a bad film

  • May 4, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    nobody cares what you think Beaks

    by one_guy_from_andromeda

    Whenever Beaks talks about the feelings of "random audience members" and his opinions of movies ("a spirited mess") my skin crawls. Can someone explain to me what makes this pretentious ass so much more unbearable than the other pretentious asses around here? It cannot all be his Wolverine Snafu, i hated that idiot long before that particular fuckup...

  • May 4, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    What Have you Done?!

    by MainMan2001

    Have any of you nerds made a film?! Do any of you realize how hard it is?! Why would anyone bash FFC?! His one of the great American Filmmakers who makes movies on his own terms. He put the money up for this movie himself. Rumble Fish by the way is a fucking brilliant film.

  • May 4, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Coppola has a free pass (even after Jack)

    by Droid

    He made four flicks in seven years that can be considered amongst the best of all time. If he wants to make personal flicks for himself, so be it.

  • May 4, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    The Rainmaker

    by Droid

    Was actually pretty good.

  • May 4, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    No

    by Ken Wahl

    Looks weak. Avarage at best.

  • May 4, 2009, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Yes, Coppola doesn't owe us anything...

    by Continentalop

    ...But we don't owe him anything either. I think we have rewarded him enough for his past successes that I think we can just say "I will wait until this comes out to judge it on it's own merits." <p> I will say that despite his recent track record, he has made FOUR great movies plus two or three pretty good ones (Outsiders and Rumble Fish are two of my childhood favs). <p> Hell, as much as I hated his version of Dracula, if anyone else had done it they would been proud to have it in their resume.

  • May 4, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Prossor

    by Continentalop

    I don't think the director of Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and GoodFellas has anything to feel inadequate about. He has never been able to stir the masses like Coppola, but he also has four true masterpieces under his belt. I would take those four and put them against anyone else's.

  • May 4, 2009, 5:38 p.m. CST

    It's better to have a new Coppola than nothing.

    by FearfulSymmetry

    If he's doing what he likes, he'w one of a few who definitely does not give a shit about any posts on AICN.

  • May 4, 2009, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Don't get me wrong...

    by Lemure_v2

    I thought The Godfather was outanding, but this trailer just makes me want to see Transformers 2 even more.

  • May 4, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Oi, Mainman2001

    by Lemure_v2

    Yeah, I have made a movie. Me and a mate remade Shawshank (look him up on youtube as Gyropitus). Have you ever remade a classic? Have you?

  • May 4, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Christopher3

    by mrbeaks

    I loved interviewing Gallo, and would gladly do it again. I need to know if he ever broke down and bought a comfortable bed.

  • May 4, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    Klaus Maria Brandauer

    by CherryValance

    That's my favorite name to say.... And I also thought of Rumble Fish watching that trailer. I hope this is good but somehow I'm not interested. I just think I blew my black and white fuse a long time ago. The trailer did nothing for me and I'm sure it's because of the B&W. But I also have a touch of PTSD from what he did to The Outsiders special edition. So that could have something to do with it.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Holy fucking shit. AMAZING TRAILER.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    One of the best I can remember in years. The photography looks brilliant. Murch editing? Fuck yes please. <P>How the fuck does this look like it was shot in the early 60s?

  • May 4, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Even after Jack? Jack is a fucking awesome movie.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    What the fuck is the problem with it? Sure...its sort of a waste of Coppola and not much of a challenge. But it was a sweet film and Robins great in it.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Man Coppala has lost it!

    by ganymede3010

    Maybe I'll take my Great Grandmother out to see this on Mothers day. She'll love it.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I'd rather watch this...

    by Banzai Rootskibango

    ...flaming pile of homo-bullshit than Wolverine? Right? Gimme a break.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Um......

    by Number9997

    ......if his only film was Godfather 2, he legacy would still be cemented for all time. Sometimes you do direct just to make money. Everyone has to make a living, so I can forgive Jack. And the Rainmaker was a decent legal flick. In fact, it's a weak John Grisham novel that turned out to be the best movie adaptation of all his novels!

  • May 4, 2009, 6:41 p.m. CST

    There is a good movie in JACK somewhere

    by caruso_stalker217

    On the one hand you've got this tragic story of a kid who is gonna die young and looking like an old Robin Williams. On the other hand you have Bill Cosby farting into a can. And that's where Coppola loses us. With the farting.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Yes Banzai I would

    by Continentalop

  • May 4, 2009, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Also

    by caruso_stalker217

    DRACULA fucking rocks.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:44 p.m. CST

    And.......

    by Number9997

    .....why is it stated The Who should not be considered a top ten band? Are you fucking retarded? The Who are one of the most influential bands of all time! That is pretty much a fact. Enough said......

  • May 4, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Its like people wanted Jack to be Ben fucking Button.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    You can't overlook the family film child friendly element and recognize it is still a finely crafted film? That sucks.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    DRACULA is unfuckingbelievable.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    It feels like FFC is fist fucking me every time I see it. That movie has balls. Big scary ugly balls.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:48 p.m. CST

    johnnyrandom's comment about music was fucking stupid.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Because you like The Who, he thinks you're some old fuck that can't see past 1980? Uhhhh....how the fuck do you come to that conclusion? That being said-- fuck The Who. They are boring as shit. But there is plenty of pre-1980 music that isn't.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Exactly Danny......

    by Number9997

    ......Jack was a flaming pile of shit, but at least the story was ambitious and thoughtful. Also, the acting was spot on. It just missed the mark somewhere. These assholes prefer shit like Watchmen which has no mass audience appeal.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST

    And sorry...but the opening credits of Jack kill The Departed.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Jesus Christ was a desperate piece of shit that was. Seriously...someone explain, is it intended to be a fucking comedy? "SMOKE HIM OUT!!"

  • May 4, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST

    We.....

    by Number9997

    .....disagree on The Who! I am 30 and I appreciated them. >=(

  • May 4, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    I like Jack. But I like a lot of sweet family movie shit.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    They shine a glimmer of hope on my black ass soul. <P>

  • May 4, 2009, 6:52 p.m. CST

    You.....

    by Number9997

    .....should watch the original Land before Time. It will melt your ice cold heart!

  • May 4, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Did.....

    by Number9997

    .....you knock 'The Departed?'

  • May 4, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Land Before Time is one my favorite animated films.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I love all Don Bluth. To me the trifecta of Nimh, Land, and American cannot and will not be touched. EVER.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:55 p.m. CST

    "When I tell you to dump a body in the mahsh..."

    by caruso_stalker217

    "...you dump him IN the mahsh. NOT where some guy from John Hancock goes every Thursday TA GET A FUCKIN' BLOW JOB! DON'T LAUGH! DIS AIN'T REALITY TEEVEE!" <p>Yes. I believe it is a comedy.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Agreed....

    by Number9997

    .....on the animation.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Yes....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ....I did. I despise The Departed. Leo needs to get a new schtick. He's played the same role about 5 times now. Jack as an Irish gangsta? No thanks. Damon as a broke down bitch, whining for 2 hours-- no thanks. Uninspired photography. Shitty editing. A music selection that feels like it was randomly picked by Merrick's retarded son. Fuck The Departed. <p>Scorsese -- please stick to 12 hour documentaries about banjos.

  • May 4, 2009, 6:59 p.m. CST

    This is the only version of The Departed I'll watch again.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    http://tinyurl.com/cbtaox

  • May 4, 2009, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Disappointed by his Dracula

    by Continentalop

    So much of it is awesome and original and just pure genius: the use of practical stage tricks that a magician would use for most of the special effects; the costume designs; the clever homages to past vampire movies (including Nosferatu, Vampyre, and even Hammer films like Captain Chronos) but other things in it just rub me wrong <p> The hammy performance by Anthony Hopkins; the complete miscasting of Keanu Reeves; and the fucking bad love story for a movie labelled BRAM STROKER'S Dracula. Dracula isn't a love story - it is much closer to a rape than anything else (in fact it was rape). <p> And the worse part of the love story for me was this idea that Mina was his reincarnated wife. This is one of the worst tropes in vampire movies, and has been used so many times before in other movies and vampire stories: Love Bites, Fright Night, Dark Shadows, and even in a damn D&D module, Ravenloft. It was a cliche even before this movie used it. <p> I know Coppola didn't write the script, but God damn it Francis, you are one of the greatest screenwriters ever, couldn't you have done a rewrite and got rid of that cheesy angle?

  • May 4, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    I disagree.....

    by Number9997

    .....but you have an argument on the bullett. As a whole, I thought the movie rocked. I will say this. How can you give MS the oscar for The Departed but not Raging Bull? The Departed is not even in that film's league.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Good points Continental.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    I think writing takes too much out of Coppola. To hear him speak of it sounds like he feels like he himself is being raped by Gary Oldman as he sits at the typewriter. When the guy goes all in...he goes all fucking in. I worry for the old tub. Please stay healthy Francis.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    by Number9997

    *bullett points*

  • May 4, 2009, 7:04 p.m. CST

    Number.....it was one of those pity Oscars.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    They felt bad for giving him the finger time and time again, and its their way of saying saaaaaaawwwwry.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:05 p.m. CST

    While I like THE DEPARTED...

    by caruso_stalker217

    ...I recognize that it is a fucking mess. Continuity is shit, editing is shit. What the fuck was with that iris-out when Damon first shows up at Police Cop HQ? I thought only Bugs Bunny was allowed to use that shit. But that's not the bad part. The bad part is the scene starts with a shot of Damon looking up at the building, THEN we have the goddamn iris-out over a high-angle shot of Damon in the plaza. What the fuck, man? At least pretend you're a fucking professional and START the scene with that shot. Jesus. <p>Anyway, I still think Judd Apatow secretly directed. All those dialogue scenes where it looks like the characters aren't having the same conversation, like everybody was ad-libbing and they threw it all together in post.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:08 p.m. CST

    I've never really enjoyed Scorsese.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    He's one of those guys that makes me feel like I'm from another planet. I really don't get what people see. I don't think he's horrible. I just think he's always dull and forgettable. The only film of his I actually own and will actually rewatch once in awhile is The Aviator.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:09 p.m. CST

    "I mean I guess I'm a pretty sick guy!"

    by caruso_stalker217

    "Yeah, I'm starting to get that feeling, too." <p>Brilliant! <p>And I have hit a new low in my life.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Yeah. His aesthetic choices in Departed are fucking bizarre.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    That fucking weak ass Dropkick Murphy's song blasting at inappropriate times and then suddenly just slam cutting out. Who the fuck thought that worked well? Or those quick freezes that hold for a few frames when Nicholson is getting blasted. What the fuck? It felt like old Marty was thinking he needed to hip it up a little bit and he asked Merrick's son for advice.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Watch the first 3 mins at Apple...

    by the_patriot

    http://www.apple.com/trailers/independent/tetro/

  • May 4, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    Danny......

    by Number9997

    ....is it me or was Gangs of New York an average movie? Leo looked too pretty for the part of a dirty, immigrant Mc. Cameron Diaz....well....that's all I can say there. The settings really dragged the movie down. They looked Westside Story cheap and didn't provide enough contrast. It wrecked the movie for me visually. The only redeeming thing was DDL. Twas another fucking performance of a lifetime. I missed him every time he wasn't on screen.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    DRACULA SUCKS!!!

    by DrMorbius

    Not the movie, Dracula, you know, sucks......

  • May 4, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    caruso_stalker217

    by Continentalop

    I got to say, fuck continuity. Most overrated thing in editing. Even Walter Murch labels it the least important thing in his seminal book on editing, "In the Blink of an Eye." <p> I agree that the Departed has some flaws, but to me editing is the least of them. In fact it is one of its strengths. It is a movie where all the cuts are motivated by emotion and a kind of primal power. Same with the music - it just fucking hits me in the stomach every time I watch that movie and hear the sound track. It is like cave man filmmaking (and i mean that as a compliment).

  • May 4, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    I hear you, Danny

    by caruso_stalker217

    I heard for years how great GOODFELLAS was and when I finally got around to watching it I was unimpressed. Furthermore I thought all the characters were unlikable and I didn't give a shit about any of them. They say DANCES WITH WOLVES stole the Oscar from GOODFELLAS. I would've gone with GODFATHER PART III myself. But then I'm one of the twelve people who like that one. <p>The only other Scorsese movies I've really enjoyed so far are BRINGING OUT THE DEAD and AFTER HOURS. I'm still not sure what's so great about him. Guess I should watch RAGING BULL or some shit.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    I think the flow of Dracula is brilliant....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ....some of the most amazing transitions ever. The story is constantly moving. Its........just plain fucking seductive.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    I'm a huge Scorsese fan

    by Continentalop

    So I guess I might have a huge bias for his work. I do believe his last couple have been lacking (hell, almost everything after GoodFellas has been lacking) but I could watch almost anything he has done over and over again just because they seem to connect with me. <p> Plus his two documentaries on American and Italian film are just God damn mesmerizing.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    As a fan of EVIL DEAD continuity doesn't bother me

    by caruso_stalker217

    But in THE DEPARTED it was just too noticeable. Like Leo and Jack are talking in the diner and Jack gets up to leave and suddenly Leo is smoking a cigarette? How the fuck do you miss that?

  • May 4, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST

    coppola!

    by alice 13

    the b+w looks so great.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Holy Quartet of Scorsese

    by Continentalop

    Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and GoodFellas.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:20 p.m. CST

    I dunno why...those gangster type films never impress me.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Not just Marty's, but everyone's. Thats why Godfather works for me, its not so much a "Look how fucking bad ass we are" sorta mob/gangster film. Its more a dramatic family/character study that just happens to take place within a family of crime. Goodfellas and all that shit, I get that people find its entertaining-- but they just feel like such fucking caricatures. They never once strike me as real people I should care about.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Goodfellas......

    by Number9997

    .....is a great genre movie, but I certainly don't hold it in that high of regard. The Sopranos is clearly a copycat of that movie and some episodes of the show are just plain superior.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:23 p.m. CST

    I never really enjoyed Scorcese either

    by CherryValance

    except for Casino and then The Departed, which I liked knowing that it was the least "him" of his movies. It was more like an old crime movie from back in the day. Those were never perfect either but infinitely more entertaining than most of his stuff.</p> <p>When FFC gets it right, he gets it righter than anyone else ever will. I just wish he did it more often.</p>

  • May 4, 2009, 7:24 p.m. CST

    I still don't know if I like TAXI DRIVER

    by caruso_stalker217

    I have it on DVD. I watch it occasionally. But I'm still not sure. <p>It's painful watching De Niro try to pick up Cybill Shepherd.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Oh and this TETRO film looks promising

    by caruso_stalker217

    I don't have too much love for Coppola's movies after APOCALYPSE NOW aside from TUCKER, GF3 and DRACULA.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:28 p.m. CST

    The Aviator

    by Bartleby T. Scrivener

    An underappreciated effort by Marty. "You see that, Mr. Dietrich? You are looking at the largest private air force in the entire world. What do you think of that?" "It's your money."

  • May 4, 2009, 7:28 p.m. CST

    Nothing unjust about

    by j_difool

    Nothing unjust about the maligning of One From the Heart. That film was a train wreck. Anyone who gives it love is just confusing good cinematography and set design with good filmmaking - a common mistake among people who give love to Terrence Malick, among other "auteurs." If FFC is spiritually arching back to Rumble FIsh, could there be a reunion with Mickey Rourke in the future? Will FFC change his name to Kenneth so we can call him by KFC ?

  • May 4, 2009, 7:29 p.m. CST

    I just....

    by Number9997

    ....can't get past Vinnie Gallo. He is such a pretentious fuck! If it weren't for Christina Ricci's tits and the cinematography, I would still be rocking myself back and forth at night for wasting my time on Buffalo 66!

  • May 4, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Malick...ugh

    by Bartleby T. Scrivener

    I just don't understand the love this guy is shown.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Actually.....

    by Number9997

    ....come to think of it, Buffalo 66 has some of the best cinematography I have ever scene. It really did capture how lifeless and bleak that area of western New York is. Buffalo is a shit hole! It was actually a pleasure to cross over into Canada where everything brightened up tenfold.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:38 p.m. CST

    by Number9997

    seen not scene

  • May 4, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST

    OK, Tetro looks solid

    by Gungan Slayer

    Looking good, from the little I've seen here in this trailer, but from what I've read and seen about this project, I'm pretty confident Coppola is going to give us a solid drama here. All you haters can shut the fuck up. Geez, I'm surprised no one's mentioned "Supernova" yet.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST

    (BRAM STOKER'S) DRACULA is very cool, indeed.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    And it primarily rocks for one reason and one reason only:<P>Gary. Fucking. Oldman.<P>Granted, he's amazing in everything he does but his portrayal of the token bloodsucker is the only one I ever really cared for. Corrupt, wounded, otherwordly, yet noble.<P>Word was that Oldman was so bombed during filming that he doesn't really remember much from the set. Badass.<P>(Anthony Hopkins' delirious portrayal of Van Helsing is fun to watch, too.)

  • May 4, 2009, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Cotton Club

    by toadkillerdog

    An underrated truly awesome flick. Always gets overlooked. But It deserves serious love. <p> One of my favorites.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:43 p.m. CST

    He's Made A European Style Film

    by Media Messiah

    I like the move d to go back to that Euro look of the 50s and 60s. I would like to work with you someday Mr. Coppola. Fine work you have done.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:44 p.m. CST

    I REALLY need to see this now.

    by gotilk

    Holding back on asking if the Gallo/Coulter blow job was left in or cut out was really hard because it looks SO damned good. (and yes, Coulter was the receiver, not the giver) I can get past Gallo for a Coppola. Hell, I'd give him a pass for a Jonas brother if the trailer looked as good as this.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:44 p.m. CST

    The best part about THE DEPARTED...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...(aside from some great lines delivered by Baldwin and Wahlberg) is:<P>Vera Farmiga<P>That chick is so ethereally hot; she should definitely be in more films.<P>Naked.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    MNG!

    by toadkillerdog

    What up homes? <p> Are you spending my considerable donation from the Toadkiller internets fortune wisely to become Moderator?

  • May 4, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    But Gallo can still suck my purity balls.

    by gotilk

    Something about the guy rubs the FUCKING WORLD wrong. So we rub back. I wonder if he has any signed, used toilet paper for sale on his site.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:49 p.m. CST

    TKD!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Not much, stranger. How the heck are you these days?<P>Nah, the running mod-campaign gag between Gus Van Rant and myself fizzled out sometime ago. Although, it may not be a bad idea to visit the coffers again. This place has truly gone to shite.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Good to see you MNG

    by toadkillerdog

    Yeah, the job keeps me away from daytime posting anymore, but I still try to look in every now and then.

  • May 4, 2009, 7:55 p.m. CST

    I'm trying to hang onto my Balls these days. Mavra Chang wants t

    by toadkillerdog

    She found out they are loaded with high explosives and has made it her mission to re-acquire them - she had them briefly. Long and bloody story!

  • May 4, 2009, 8 p.m. CST

    I highly recommend Cotton Club

    by toadkillerdog

    Massively underrated FFC movie

  • May 4, 2009, 8:02 p.m. CST

    Thanks, TKD.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Yeah, I hear you on the job-front. It's very easy to get carried away during the day...especially when there are Trolls to slay!<P>For me, I just haven't been find anything of much interest here as of late. The tone of Talkback has been lacking as well.<P>Mavra Chang (?!) wants your balls?! Yikes! Sounds horrific...

  • May 4, 2009, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I agree MNG. Just recycled arguments

    by toadkillerdog

    Need a really good political TB bloodletting, or a very high profile divisive movie. Otherwise just a circle jerk.<p> Mavra found out that a case of arrogant bastard ale, a well applied baseball bat, a plasma cutter and a squeegee would allow her to acquire a pristine set of high explosive Toadkiller balls. But she failed to reckon with my Iron Giant like homing abilities that brought my balls back home and swinging low were they belong.

  • May 4, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    One Mr G. Lucas should take note...

    by Wonder Man

    Francis Ford Coppola resolved that he would return from his hiatus not to big studio pictures, but to make small, personal films, or bigger yet still self-or-independently financed pictures which may or may not even have an audience... and with YOUTH WITHOUT YOUTH & TETRO, dude's walking the walk. Unlike George Lucas, who's been crowing about "small, experimental films" that he's wanted to make for decades once he's through with STAR WARS... turns out, the man refuses to be through with STAR WARS, and we're still hearing about useless CLONE WAR animated series and live action SW shows... Producing/storylining RED TAILS is one thing, but when is the man gonna get the sack to match Coppola's moxie?? I'm gonna go out on a limb and saaaaayyy... Never. Just one man's opinion.

  • May 4, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Not feeling the Black & White

    by HermesTrismestigus

    Has that I decided it should be in Black and White after I shot it vibe. Looks like a student project. It's weird how Lucas, Spielberg, and all those great 70's directors made wonderful films for Adults and for the family, then when they got older, married, and into politics became a bunch of pussies and hacks of the system. Sad....

  • May 4, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    I prefer GoodFellas over the Sopranos

    by Continentalop

    To me Sopranos was about a dysfunctional family drama with crime as a backdrop and as twist. Same with the Godfather I & II, which uses organize crime to talk about family dynamics and as a metaphor for politics and America. GoodFellas IS about organized crime. It is about how the mafia actually operates and the psychology of the type of people who live in that world. <p> Of course, I can't get upset over people who prefer other movies. It is what you can relate too. I once told this friend of mine from NY I prefer Chinatown over Godfather. He asked me how the hell I could do that. I told him, "Because Godfather is about a man who must come to terms with his father and try and fill in the shoes of a great man; Chinatown is about a detective who tries to help someone but fucks up and gets her killed. My dad is a construction worker so I am not to worried about filling his shoes and coming to realize how hard it is for him to wear the crown; I do, however, understand what it is like to try and do the right thing and just fuck everything up."

  • May 4, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by toadkillerdog

    Once again, I can not disagree much with your summarization. Before saying anything else though, I will say my preference is for the Godfather movies strictly as dramas and for their storytelling and acting. In fact they are in my top three movies of all time. But you are right, when it comes to actually telling the raw story of the mafia, nothing tops Goodfellas. <p> I loved the Sopranos - when it was in top form, nothing on TV matched it, but it was still a family drama.

  • May 4, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    TKD

    by Continentalop

    And I have to say I love Godfather I & II - saw them at the Arclight not to long ago and they easily stand up against the test of time. I will say that I do have a couple of movies higher on my list of favorites - and the reason I love them more is exclusively based on emotional reasons and how I connect with the movies on a personal level, not because of any perceived faults with the Godfather movies. <p> Because, lets be honest, I & II have no faults. They are as flawless as they come (although I can't stand part 3. What do you see in it? Maybe I am missing something).

  • May 4, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST

    Plus

    by Continentalop

    FFC would be considered an important part of film history just on his work on the Patton script alone. He should be lionized just for the opening monologue.

  • May 4, 2009, 9:05 p.m. CST

    No, Godfather 3 is not in this dojo

    by toadkillerdog

    Not in this discussion of best at all. G3 is a good movie. But does not belong in the pantheon of greatness. Favorite movies are purely subjective. If someone likes Iron Man more than Godather, fine. That is their prerogative. Now if someone says that Iron Man (which I love by the way) is better written and directed and acted than Godfather I and II, then that person needs to seriously consider how they evaluate movies.

  • May 4, 2009, 9:05 p.m. CST

    I trailer, you trailer, he/she/we trailer

    by Iowa Snot Client

    To lens, perhaps to trailer

  • May 4, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Looks great. Very excited for this one.

    by a goonie

    I love Coppola (who doesn't?) and it's great to see him working (mostly) in black-and-white again, since I absolutely adore Rumble Fish. The photography is beautiful and that whole trailer has a really delicious tone that I hope is indicative of the full experience.<br><br>At the very least, I hope it works better than Youth Without Youth. "Frustratingly inscrutable" is a very good way to describe that one.

  • May 4, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Seriously...do you guys ever wonder...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ...what the fuck is up with Michael Jackson?

  • May 4, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Andy Garcia is fucking bad ass in Godfather3....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ....when he smokes that dude in the fucking face with Bridget Fonda's cunt cheese still dripping off his Cuban member. Fucking bad ass.

  • May 4, 2009, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Garcia shows up at Pacino's party in a leather jacket

    by caruso_stalker217

    And bites Joe Mantegna. Hell yeah. <p>And Sofia isn't quite as terrible as everyone says.

  • May 4, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    When I die...

    by caruso_stalker217

    ...I'm coming back as Bridget Fonda's cunt cheese.

  • May 4, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    Tetro lookin' good...

    by My friends call me Killjoy

    Me likey.

  • May 4, 2009, 10:49 p.m. CST

    I don't think anything in Godfather 3 is as bad as people say...

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    ....its a damn good movie. And its entertaining. I actually watch it more often than 1. 2 is my fave, but 3 is more fun. Fucking love that helicopter ambush.

  • May 4, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    BRIDGETFONDAS_CUNTCHEESE

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    Please somebody make it so. I would but.....I'm gettin' too ole' fo' this sheeet.

  • May 4, 2009, 10:53 p.m. CST

    PART III has my favorite ending

    by caruso_stalker217

    Makes me laugh every time.

  • May 4, 2009, 10:55 p.m. CST

    I don't know

    by caruso_stalker217

    There might be too many JOHNSMITH'S_BODILYFLUID type handles out there right now.

  • May 4, 2009, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Yeah you're right. Fuck all those trifflin' motherfuckers.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    The only one I want on here is BRIDGETFONDAS_CUNTCHEESE.<P>Or we can change up the formula and go with LA FEMME NACUNT.

  • May 4, 2009, 11 p.m. CST

    Love the Rumble Fish feel

    by Anti-fanboy

    Really looking forward to this.

  • May 4, 2009, 11:37 p.m. CST

    Garcia, motherfuckers

    by caruso_stalker217

    http://tinyurl.com/dbhyqb

  • May 4, 2009, 11:38 p.m. CST

    HAY GUYS WHATS GOING ON

    by polyh3dron

    Has this TB degenerated into people deriding the first 2 Godfathers and Apocalypse Now saying they're overrated yet?

  • May 4, 2009, 11:45 p.m. CST

    AL PACINO PRANK CALL MOTHERFUCKERS.

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    http://tinyurl.com/383zmj

  • May 4, 2009, 11:46 p.m. CST

    Weren't famous people gonna be in this?

    by JuanSanchez

    Not even actors care about Coppola anymore.

  • May 5, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Timothy Dalton made your mother's cunt famous....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    .....when he beat it into an unrecognizable pile of hamburger meat with a croquet mallet.

  • May 5, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST

    THAT was fuckin hilarious!!

    by BenBraddock

  • May 5, 2009, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Wow I thought that was Dicaprio

    by i kick tits

    Alden Ehrenreich looks exactly like Leo in this trailer.

  • May 5, 2009, 12:40 a.m. CST

    Jesus Christ Dickblood

    by most excellent ninja

    you never cease to surprise me with what a dumb cunt you are.

  • May 5, 2009, 12:47 a.m. CST

    Jack never!!!

    by MenLeavingFactory1903

    Now there are people that like Jack. That... what? Crocodile Dundee 3 is more sincere. The only time Robin Williams seems sincere is when he is playing someone who might hurt somebody (One Hour Photo, Insomniac)

  • May 5, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST

    James Woods on The Departed

    by Continentalop

    "I look at movies and they're all so f@&^ing terrible. People ask, 'Why aren't movies more successful?' It's really a simple answer: It's because they stink. Three simple words: Because they f@&^ing stink. That's four words, but you can't write the f@&^ing word. They stink, they stink, they stink, what's wrong with you? They stink. Do better movies. ... Finally, I saw a good movie - 'The Departed." And look what it took: It took Marty Scorsese, Matt Damon, Mark Wahlberg, Leonardo DiCaprio, Jack Nicholson, (screenwriter) Bill Monahan - and it's based on another movie."

  • May 5, 2009, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Again - Harry and Co - tells us if McG really said this:

    by JuanSanchez

    On IESB: "I strongly suspect the next movie is going to take place in a [pre-Judgment Day] 2011," McG reveals. "John Connor is going to travel back in time and he's going to have to galvanize the militaries of the world for an impending Skynet invasion. They've figured out time travel to the degree where they can send more than one naked entity. So you're going to have hunter killers and transports and harvesters and everything arriving in our time and Connor fighting back with conventional military warfare, which I think is going to be fucking awesome. I also think he's going to meet a scientist that's going to look a lot like present-day Robert Patrick [who famously played the T-1000 in Terminator 2], talking about stem-cell research and how we can all live as idealized, younger versions of ourselves pre-Judgment Day."

  • May 5, 2009, 1:12 a.m. CST

    Wait a minute...wasn't Woods in Scary Movie 2?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

  • May 5, 2009, 1:48 a.m. CST

    Departed was a pity fuck. Marty took a walk.

    by reflecto

    He blended up all the elements slavering film geeks and mass audiences loved him for in the past - ethnic stereotypes, gritty crime drama, De Niro - threw them in a blender and made a mockery of not only the Infernal Affairs trilogy (the second film is superior to anything in The Departed, and contains over 75% of The Departed's story) but also his own work. He wanted an Oscar bad, and he got it, after three bloated, desperate cinematic beached whales (the other two being GONY and The Aviator). I pray he can stop now, and go back to making something different and interesting. Incidentally, De Niro's The Good Shepherd was vastly superior to The Departed, a kind of icy companion to Coppola's The Conversation, but just like that film, it went ignored in favor of cheaper dross.

  • May 5, 2009, 2:06 a.m. CST

    I think Woods is admitting most of his films suck

    by JuanSanchez

    at least the recent ones.

  • May 5, 2009, 2:54 a.m. CST

    This hatred for The Departed kind of amazes me

    by Continentalop

    It is certainly not Marty’s best film (me and Marty are close, so I can call him by his first name) nor is it even a truly great film, but it is a lot better than you guys are giving it credit for. I think the biggest detriment to the film is that it doesn’t hold up against Marty’s (see, good friend) earlier, superior work. But it is completely unfair to judge the film only against those other films instead of looking at it as it’s own unique work. <p> Plus, if you are going to judge it by comparing it to other filmmaker’s work, compare it to the other Academy Award Winners of the 21st century. I don’t give much credence to the Oscars, but I will say that The Departed is just as good if not better than Gladiator, A Beautiful Mind, Chicago, The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, Million Dollar Baby, Crash, Slumdog Millionaire. Only one film on that list, No Country for Old Men, can I look at and say is obviously better than The Departed (if There Will Be Blood could have also won it, I would put that above it as well). <p> Plus look at the other films nominated for Best Picture that year: Babel, Letters from Iwo Jima, Little Miss Sunshine, The Queen. Are any of those films better than The Departed? I don’t think so. <p> Hell, look at the other films released that year: Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest; The Da Vinci Code, Casino Royale, Cars, X-Men: Last Stand, Mission Impossible 3, Superman Returns, Happy Feet, Hostel, The Hills Have Eyes, Thank You For Smoking, V for Vendetta, Inside Man, United 93, Friends With Money, Lucky Number Slevin, American Dreamz, A Prairie Home Companion, The Devil Wears Prada, Clerks II, Lady in the Water, Talledega Nights, World Trade Center, The Illusionist, Snakes on a Plane, Invincible, Crank, Hollywoodland, Fearless, and The Black Dahlia. In my opinion, Thank You for Smoking, United 93 and Casino Royale were the only American films arguably better than The Departed. <p> And the funny thing is I don’t really think he was shooting for an Oscar with that one, unlike GONY and The Aviator. It isn’t like crime dramas and policer flicks have a track record of winning the Academy Award (French Connection and the Godfather II are the last two to my knowledge to win Best Director, and that was over 25 years ago). No, I think he just looked at it as a studio job and decided to try and make an old fashion Warner Brothers Gangster film, something that could have starred James Cagney, Bogart, Robinson and Raft back in the day. But even if it was just a studio job, he still tackled it like his heroes Hawks, Huston, Fuller, Wellman, Walsh and the rest and tried to put out the best thing he could. It might not have been a personal story that Scorsese told, but it obviously had his touch and sensibilities, and was much bolder or ambitions that many other directors would have dared with a big studio picture. I can’t force people to like Scorsese or the Departed, and some people might have legitimate criticisms, but I do think for the most part it is being unfairly judged. When Kill Bill is viewed as a masterpiece by some on this site; The Transporter and Crank are constantly referred to as awesome; and everyone is getting pumped up to see the Expendables by an actor and filmmaker who has screwed over his fans and phoned it more times than any one can count, I do think that people might be a little hard on a film that actually had themes, ideas and subtext, and dared to imagine that an audience might be willing to follow characters who weren’t completely good or evil. I mean, the fucking thing could have been Face/Off. <p>

  • May 5, 2009, 3:10 a.m. CST

    yo Continentalop

    by most excellent ninja

    email me at theblackestnight@hotmail.com

  • May 5, 2009, 3:11 a.m. CST

    reason for hatred of departed

    by most excellent ninja

    this is aintitcool and whilst many times it's funny and people have something good to say, most of the time it's populated by fucking idiots like dickblood.

  • May 5, 2009, 3:28 a.m. CST

    Departed was good, not great. Judge it as it's own movie.

    by JuanSanchez

  • May 5, 2009, 3:39 a.m. CST

    I was critical of The Departed long before the rest of AICN

    by reflecto

    Your longwinded novella feebly defending it does little to change my opinion. And yes - The Queen WAS better.

  • May 5, 2009, 3:51 a.m. CST

    Continentalop

    by Prossor

    Scorsese relies too much on the street scene subject matter which i personally dont give two shits about. Just doesn't stretch into other genres the way Coppola has. I like Taxi Driver though it's more for Shrader's script tackling a universal problem no one thought to make a movie about. Raging Bull is watching an unlikable asshole be assholish to everyone and in the end "woops sorry bout that folks", no amount of flashy b&w or DeNiro's weight transformations and latex nose can make up for any of that.

  • May 5, 2009, 4:05 a.m. CST

    Red Tails and the resurrection of Lucas

    by kwisatzhaderach

    OK - here's my prediction. Lucas has hired the director, DP and most of the cast of The Wire for his Red Tails film. First step back to critical credibility? I predict within the next 3 years he will make something along the lines of THX 1138 again and blow us all away. Coppola says over and over that Lucas will make something amazing when he does his personal art films.

  • May 5, 2009, 4:17 a.m. CST

    Come to think of it mob movies are boring

    by Prossor

    Especially the Italian mob flicks, holy fucking ass nuggets, seeing these guys talking like down syndrome patients about hitting and wacking stuff every 5 minutes and then eating their greasy meat or cooking up some cocks, following their rituals, code or some stupid shit. My favorite of those isnt even a mob movie, Scarface because it's so over the top and he isnt part of any candyass organization.

  • May 5, 2009, 5:19 a.m. CST

    Like I said, I enjoy THE DEPARTED

    by caruso_stalker217

    Plus, as a die hard ALIEN³ fan I'm not afraid of a few plot holes or messy narratives or shit that just plain don't make sense. <p>The biggest headscratcher DEPARTED-wise for me would be how nobody figured out Leo was the informant. Like there's the scene with the Chinese dudes and Baldwin is naming all of Costello's guys and when Leo shows up and it's like, "And there's Billy Costigan, the new guy, you know the guy who was kicked out of the academy and has ties to Costello via his uncle who was well-liked which would be a big help if Martin Sheen over here wanted to get an informant into the organization. And there's Fitzy." <p>Come on, dude.

  • May 5, 2009, 6:12 a.m. CST

    informants

    by MenLeavingFactory1903

    Didn't Sheen & co. have several informants in with Costello's gang? I can't remember.

  • May 5, 2009, 6:55 a.m. CST

    This is actually what Coppola always...

    by Lobanhaki

    <br>...wanted to do. In fact, he's long been an advocate for HD cinema, since the eighties and before. I'm reading this book called Droidmaker, about Lucasfilm's pivotal role in bringing about the digital cinema revolution, and part of the side story running along things is Coppola trying to push electronic filmmaking and other similar gadgetry forward. It even talks about how Coppola did his first edit of Apocalypse now on a video editing system, and that essentially was the rough cut for the film! His problem, though, is that in those days, to edit together a film out of all that, you needed to know which reel, and at what frame of the footage the cut is being made, and Coppola's video cut just didn't have that information.</br> <br>I think there are too many self-righteous folks on the talkbacks, more interested in the horse races of entertainment media than the real history of cinema.</br> <br>How many people Photoshop images without realizing that the basis for that technology came out out of ILM's digital compositing efforts? How many people edit a video on Windows Moviemaker, without appreciating that it's a direct line or near direct line descendant of the editor Lucasfilm developed and then sold to Avid (which was in turn bought by Microsoft)? Do you folks realize that with just a few thousand dollars today, you can buy: 1) A video camera that is effectively film resolution; 2) Professional level Video-Editing, Compositing, Vector drawing, photo-editing software, and sound editing software; 3) Professional level computer animation software; and 4) A computer capable of running it. And most importantly, nowadays, you can distribute your own movies online.</br> <br>Do you guys understand that with a little drive and a little bit of patience and willingness to learn the techniques and the software, any of you could do what it once took studios and huge facilities to do? I would challenge anyone of you out there, if you're so interested in good film, to go and try to make some yourself. At the very least you can buy yourself a decent editing program for about a hundred dollars, or use Microsoft's editor if you have the patience, and right then and there be a filmmaker. It's that easy nowadays. And if you're willing to shell out a few hundred at a whack, you can do even better than that. So why aren't you folks doing that?</br>

  • May 5, 2009, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Lobanhaki: Because Lucas Raped Ma Childhood

    by Captain_James_T_Kirk

    Excellent post... But your stance is way to intellectual and thought-provoking for TB. Shame on you. :)

  • May 5, 2009, 7:38 a.m. CST

    The younger brother in this...

    by Being_Talkbackovich

    ...is giving off a young DiCaprio vibe. This looks better than Youth without Youth. I love when directors change up their protocol in their later years. Coppola doing small films now is awesome. And I love where Cronenberg has gone with his career, although I do yearn for some sci-fi flesh-altering horror from him again. And Eastwood's doing the best work of his career making these urban-esque, broken dramas. This is all very cool.

  • May 5, 2009, 8:16 a.m. CST

    YOU GOT UR WISH

    by BRIDGETFONDAS_CUNTCHEESE

    Goddamn succubian motherfucker, I fulfilled your plea. NOW, get FFC to wrangle one of those dead siamese fighters to suck off Gallo.

  • May 5, 2009, 8:25 a.m. CST

    First 3 mins—

    by blakindigo

    here:<br><br> http://tinyurl.com/cebjnw

  • May 5, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Looks like any other snotty film school bullshit

    by alienindisguise

    all the filmmaking masters are dead and that's a shame

  • May 5, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    If Scorcese didn't direct The Departed

    by BizarroJerry

    More people would say they liked it. Scorcese unfortunately is always viewed in comparison to his other movies. The Departed wasn't great, but it was entertaining.

  • May 5, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST

    One hit wonders...

    by BizarroJerry

    So, the guy hasn't reached the greatness of The Godfather. It's too bad, but I don't know why people start being mean and resentful about it. When someone puts out a single hit song and becomes a one-hit wonder, that doesn't mean the song sucks or they need to be mocked. The planets just happened to align at the time, and they got lucky and managed to churn out one big hit. It's too bad, but that's how it goes.

  • May 5, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    Pacino was worse than Sofia in Godfather III

    by slone13

    He wasn't playing Michael Corleone anymore. He was playing "Angry Pacino" which is pretty much all he does now. Coppola should have actually DIRECTED him to ACT like he had in the previous two.

  • May 5, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Speak for yourself...

    by Citizen Sane

    ...the asshole owes me!

  • May 5, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST

    He makes small movies now because...

    by Citizen Sane

    ... all of his big movies SINCE One from the Heart have completely SUCKED! And now his little movies SUCK!!!!!!!!

  • May 5, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST

    You know what I think secretly messed up GF3?

    by CherryValance

    The makeup and hair. Diane Keaton particularly looked clownish. And Pacino's frosted tips. Yikes. Probably the worst ensemble old makeup ever. I think it set up a "don't take this seriously" vibe and then add that the actors seemed to be overdoing it. Except Andy Garcia who did really good work in that. Whatever happened to him?

  • May 5, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    I like art

    by AndreBreton

    I especially like art that is about art. When FFC makes art, he makes art. Art is good. The more art the merrier. Entertainment is fun, but art rules.

  • May 5, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    You had me until...

    by DeadPanWalking

    ... Vincent Gallo. That guy is unwatchable. How did he weasel his way into the Coppola fold, anyway?

  • May 5, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Prossor

    by Continentalop

    Fair enough. I think mobster movies are an acquired taste, like any genre. It is like how I can't get upset at people for not liking westerns, or how I can't get into the kung fu genre (but I love samurai films - go figure).

  • May 5, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Caruso

    by Continentalop

    Don't worry, I am not demanding that you love the Departed. While the idea of the mobsters never really looking at Leo as the mole never bothered me (to me it seemed like the did suspect him), I understand everyone has their own subjective view with a movie about what does or does not bother them. I mean, I have never liked The Matrix because I have always seen it as a fundamental religious terrorist apologist movie - so I understand the idea of something about a movie getting under your skin and preventing you from liking it.

  • May 5, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    reflecto

    by Continentalop

    Never was trying to change your view - I think that I mentioned in that and previous posts about half-dozen times that I don't expect people to like the same films as me. And you think The Queen is better than The Departed, hey fine. I've got no problem with that. <p> But I just don't get people ripping into it or treating it like it is an embarrassing movie. From the list above of other movies released that year, can you honestly name 10 movies you think were better? The movie might not be a masterpiece, but it is a smart and damn good studio genre flick. <p> I am just wondering if a little "hipsterism" is going on here. That now Scorsese has become popular and accepted people feel they can't admire him anymore.

  • May 5, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Franics Ford DID make a sc-fi film

    by idrinkyourmilkshake

    it's called Super-Nova.Except he used a psuedonym.

  • May 5, 2009, 2:24 p.m. CST

    Lucas could learn from his former mentor

    by Sweet Action Hero

    It's nice to see an artist still experimenting at FFCs age. It's better than bilking the hell out of your claim to fame. Who cares if he fails and least its something different.

  • May 5, 2009, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Westerns

    by Prossor

    especially spaghetti westerns are class A shit. Sergio Leone is probably my favorite director for the Dollars trilogy alone. Once Upon a Time in the West is pretty good although too boring and serious for me. also John Wayne's stuff from 1960 and on when the movies were more action packed and less yapping (with the exception of Hondo).

  • May 5, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Supernova is not directed by Coppola

    by calvart

    Walter Hill directed Supernova under the name of Thomas Lee. Coppola only shot a few uncredited scenes.

  • May 5, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    No fucking argument with Leone

    by Continentalop

    Love Leone, and while you might not like Once Upon a Time Prossor, that is without a doubt my favorite film by him just for the incredible opening with Jack Elam, Woody Strode and Al Murlock alone. <p> And while some might not like gangsters movies, especially Italian Mafia movies, if they are well done they are like crack to me. I am just a big crime movie junkie, and admit it freely. Just like I admit freely that I am an huge Scorsese fan.

  • May 5, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    Sweet Action

    by skimn

    Yes, its ironic that the man who helped Lucas in his early years, is directing experimental films, just the type that Lucas always says he wants to do. While Lucas is fashioning the 37th milking of Star Wars.

  • May 5, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    I loved TETRO when I played on the Nintendo!

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • May 5, 2009, 11:20 p.m. CST

    I think

    by detectivesoap

    this movie is going to be pretty good. Reminds me of films of the early 90s and Coppola's stretch in New York Stories for some reason...I can't explain it

  • May 6, 2009, 12:34 a.m. CST

    I have no problem liking popular work

    by reflecto

    I enjoy Transformers, for God's sake, even though I hate Michael Bay. My favorite two movies of last year were Wendy & Lucy and Speed Racer. And I think Marty has made incredible films. But The Departed screamed "give me an Oscar as I reuse all my old stuff and fuck up better Asian movies" to me. I respected him more when he branched out and risked himself, on Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, After Hours, Age Of Innocence, Kundun, Taxi Driver instead of going back to the Goodfellas/Casino well.

  • May 6, 2009, 1:47 a.m. CST

    No worries, Conti

    by caruso_stalker217

    We'll always have PAVLOV'S HOUSE.

  • May 6, 2009, 2:06 a.m. CST

    PAVLOV'S HOUSE in 2011

    by Continentalop

    Make me and caruso happy Hollywood!

  • May 6, 2009, 3:08 a.m. CST

    reflecto

    by Continentalop

    I am just going to politely disagree with you. Like i said earlier, that genre is not know for being Oscar bait (Aviator was the much more obvious Oscar movie, a biopic) and I think it is quite understandable why a studio would bring him in to direct the Departed - he is currently the undeniable master of gangster flick. It would be like bringing in Ford in the late 50's to do a western - it is the genre that he is most associated with and has mastered. <P> I agree it is NOT one of his best works, i just don't see it as such a hack piece that you do.

  • May 6, 2009, 3:28 a.m. CST

    I thiink the comparison to the studio draft is fair

    by reflecto

    But that's all it feels like to me - he brought in exactly what was expected of him. Anyone else could've made that picture, TRYING to be Scorsese and lifting from the Infernal Affairs film, flooding the script with overcooked "Southie" dialogue. It came off soulless to me. It was a collection of other parts, his spares and the Hong Kong industry's. You're right, though, THE AVIATOR was much worse and that's saying something. They should have renamed that movie WAXWORKS, it was just a bunch of motherfuckers imtating people to impress the Academy. It didn't end so much as STOP.

  • May 6, 2009, 7:18 p.m. CST

    TETROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

    by The Amazing G

    KANAEDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

  • May 6, 2009, 7:22 p.m. CST

    Coppola's last truly great movie thus far is Dracula..

    by The Amazing G

    come on, you know that movie rocks