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Finke: NBC Renews CHUCK, PARKS, MEDIUM, ORDER And SOUTHLAND!! No Love For HOWIE DO IT, EARL Or LIFE!!
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Nikki Finke, whose sources sometimes get things wrong but more often get them right, is reporting that NBC will announce Monday that “Chuck,” “Law & Order,” “Medium,” “Parks & Recreation” and “Southland” have been renewed for the 2009-2010 season.
NBC “bubble” shows Finke does not mention are miserable prank show "Howie Do It" “Yes, Dear” creator Greg Garcia’s abysmally rated shitcom “My Name Is Earl,” and cult-fave Zen procedural “Life.”
Others NBC shows expected back to share the primetime schedule with the five-nights-a-week hourlong “The Jay Leno Show” next season are “Heroes,” “The Office,” “30 Rock,” “Law & Order: SVU” and “Friday Night Lights.”
NBC shows long expected not to return include “Kath & Kim,” “Kings,” “Knight Rider,” “Crusoe,” “My Own Worst Enemy,” “Lipstick Jungle” and “ER.”
The major broadcast networks announce their 2009-2010 primetime schedules on these dates:
NBC: May 4
Fox: May 18
ABC: May 19
CBS: May 20
The CW: May 21
Find Finke’s story on the matter here.
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So sad to see it go. Really happy Chuck will be back but damn, Life was good.
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And fuck you Herc. "Earl" isn't as great as it used to be, but it's not abysmal, like "Parks & Recreation."
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Earl is a great show.
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"Shitcom"? Get your head out of your ass, sir! That show's still funny, to this day. Just a couple of weeks ago, Betty White kidnapped half the town and stabbed Earl with a butcher knife at the end of the episode. Think "Parks and Rec" has a pair of huevos that hefty? Hell no. That show's fuckin' sleepier than a Radiohead album.
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Parks pilot sucked balls, did it get better after that?
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I was seriously going to stop watching NBC if they canceled CHUCK, so this is good news indeed.
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Parks is coming along. I think only a redneck can enjoy watching Earl. If I want to see dumb hillbillies, I can just go drive a few miles.
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Kung-fu Chuck here we go.
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...could explain Herc referring to Yes Dear as a shitcom and not Earl.
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makes me laugh. PARKS does not. It's THE OFFICE with lamer, less-funny variables thrown in to the exact same equation.
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The link to Finke's story is your email address. Just a heads up.
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May 03, 2009 1:29:05 PM CDT
NBC & FOX are two of the four horsemen of the apocalypse
by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights
The other two haven't revealed themselves yet, but I suspect them to be Apple and the company that released LET THE RIGHT ONE IN with shitty subtitles.
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Next season will be so awesome, Chuck finally kicking ass and taking names.
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Why even bring it up. Of course it's gone.
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Sad but at the same time - the season ender seemed to say it would be this way. Most of the loose ends were tied up. The only plot line I was interested in was Ted meeting up with Olivia in Spain. Christina Hendricks deserved to be seen a whole lot more - hubba hubba !!!
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I got my brother-in-law to watch while he was visiting this weekend. Hopefully it'll keep on rolling.
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it had too, it stunk so bad. It is not funny, plain and simple.
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I'm a fan of both Chuck and Life and there is no way Chuck is a better show. Life boasts one of the more impressive ensemble casts on tv and definitely deserved to come back. NBC is wrong with this one.
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I really liked Chuck and look forward to how they build on the second season finale, but am disappointed if Life really does not get renewed. It was unique and Damian Lewis really brought sometng to the role and show.
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Whether Chuck or Life is a better show makes no difference. Chuck got picked up because they think it will get more viewers than Life. Its all about money, not quality when it comes to which shows stay and which get chopped.
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this news just made my day.
I just hope they leave chuck at superninja level for more then first 20 minutes of 3rd season premier.
same goes for scott bakula: hated him in star trek, seeing him in chuck brings back some quantum leap nostalgia.
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I love Chuck and am so glad its coming back.
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So glad Chuck is coming back. The Season 2 finally was so funny and I think they can really do some very cool things with the new twist on Chuck and the power shift.
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Would you prefer a "live in front of a studio audience" series? I don't understand your almost angry dislike of it. So it's not for you. We get it. Now be a big boy and quiet down.
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Great show and potential!!! FUCKKKKKKKKKK
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Just sold me on Chuck. I'll Chuck it out after I'm done with supernatural.
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As much as I agree with you NBC isn't judging the shows on their merits, just the bottom line.
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I watched it, but if I missed one I wasn't freaked out about it.
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and this season has been funny. But if Earl must go that Chuck may live, I must say "That Earl had to die" [nanananananah] Goodbyyyyye Earl. [Hey hey hey].
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Life's first season was better than the second but it was still better than Law & Order (all of them). I only watched Chuck's first season, but I'm glad it got picked up.
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Not expected to return? Well, duh! Was there any doubt? What part of "Series Finale" sounds ambiguous?
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Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy the show. But it's going to be hard to improve on last week's finale. For starters, they can't keep milking the will they/won't they with Chuck and Sarah. But if they get together, they'll lose all that tension. And if they don't, well, that'll just suck.
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a year ago. Why keep bringing it up?
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Parks is slightly funny every 10 minutes or so. That's twice per. I'm really glad about Chuck though.
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I really hated it at first with the first season, but its actually pretty funny and has its moments. Gonna miss Howie Do It though that was comic gold.....FART! Long live Bobbies World.
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Better Off Ted is on ABC.
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I like when something like this happens to fandoms :)
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I rarely just give up on a show, but I watched I think all of the first season of Life, but sometime in the first episodes in season 2 it just got Lame. Like the main guy was cool but the cases he got were just boring and way too predictable.
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Careful about just typing out Greg Garcia's credits in a list of renewed shows, Herc!!! For like a tenth of a second I thought "Yes, Dear" was still on the air somewhere and it killed a little piece of my soul. It was painful.
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Here's what they should do:
Monday8:00 - Heroes9:00 - MediumTuesday8:00 - Friday Night Lights9:00 - LifeWednesday8:00/8:30 - Earl/ Parks & Recreation9:00 - L&O or L&O SVU (alternates)Thursday8;00 - Chuck9:00/9:30 - The Office/30 RockFriday8:00 - Biggest Loser9:00 - DatelineSaturdaydoesn't matter, no one's watching, reruns I guess or a movieSunday8:00 - Kings9:00 - Journeyman (not cancelled, just a long hiatus)10:00 - Southland -
AICN has the overly obvious animosity for the NOT CANCELED MY NAME IS EARL. Its so pathetic and juvenile and transparent.
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I would love Chuck to return. Although as RaveX mentioned I'm worried he'll be a superninja for like 1/3 of the S3 premier and then take his job back at the buymore everything will reboot. I'd love to see him become a real spy like they teased the last couple episodes, but the budget wasn't huge before and they probably had to cut it to get a third season, so...
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Dammit! So close to being rid of you!
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about germs. Douche.
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Earl
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Medium's probably the most deserving of those shows, at least the ones that i've seen.
I'm also happy about Chuck getting renewed. Even though it's never quite lived up to its potential, the last five or six episodes have been really strong and the season 2 finale was great.
Southland is the only other show on the renewed list that i've watched and so far it's pretty meh. I suppose it could turn into a watchable show at some point but it's thoroughly generic stuff right now.
Kinda weird to think this will be the first time in 16 something years that we haven't had a new season of ER.
Plus it sucks about Kings. I really like that show.
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in fact that and 30 Rock are the only NBC shows I watched this season.
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5.9 Grey’s Anatomy
3.7 The Office
3.6 CSI
3.6 Survivor
3.5 Private Practice
2.9 30 Rock
2.8 Hell’s Kitchen
2.4 Criminal Minds (repeat)
2.3 Parks and Recreation
2.2 Bones
2.2 My Name Is Earl
2.1 Southland
2.0 Ugly Betty
1.4 Smallville
1.3 Supernatural
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It wasn't perfect but it was extremely ambitious and thats a rare thing its a shame they paid the price for it.
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Because fan frustration is sure to be a lot higher after "of course it's been renewed" than "hopefully it will be renewed." Finke might still be wrong, which is why I refuse to get my hopes up.
For the record, LIFE was a good show I would have liked to continue. Sure, the first season, with its over-arching mystery/revenge plot, was better. But the second season was still ok. The cases were extremely easy to solve, both for the detectives and for the audience, but I liked the fact that they were often such incredibly bizarre murders, without becoming nauseatingly icky (cf. BONES). And of course Damian Lewis was awesome, as was his interplay with the other regulars. The season finale makes for a good series finale.
I've recorded every episode of KINGS so far, and after the last episode has aired I'm going to tentatively ask people whether the finale resolves things, and if it does, I'll watch the whole series within a few days. Luckily I didn't have time to watch the first episode, and before I could remedy that, I read about its ratings.
I liked KNIGHT RIDER. Sure, it was pretty terrible, but it was a fun kind of terrible, and after the "re-boot," the showrunners seemed to realize that. I'm not particularly sad to see it go, but if I have the choice between safe, intentionally-mediocre procedurals of the CSI- and L&O-kind, or intentionally-cheesy 80ies-throwbacks, the latter offers more entertainment value.
As for CHUCK, I already said in the finale talkback that CHUCK was the most entertaining show on television, and it actually has pretty good production values and acting (unlike KNIGHT RIDER).
HEROES has recently improved, but that doesn't say much. I honestly believe that the second season wasn't as terrible as everybody said, and maybe the third wouldn't have been as awful as it was if people hadn't whined about the second.
Comedy-wise, I didn't laugh once during any episode of PARKS & RECREATION, but it's very hard for a TV show to make me laugh out loud. The only ones that regulary achieve(d) that are COUPLING(UK) and IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA. 30 ROCK occasionally gets a chuckle out of me, as does PARTY DOWN, but in both cases it took a while for me to warm up to the characters and their style of humour. So for the moment, I'll stay with P&R. -
The top 3 shows on Thursday air at the same time. Plus it is on the CW so right there cut your viewership expectations in half.
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He's the only Scientologist who hasn't appeared on it yet
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Do any of you work or have lives? How the fuck can anyone watch these many shows, which are ALL AWFUL! Chuck? Life? Kings? You have got to be kidding me. Please tell me you are all 12 years old or something, cause this is just sad otherwise. TV SUCKS!
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Geez.
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I've never watched the show but I gathered it was pretty popular when it started..
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Bright spots in a vast wasteland of uninspired cop procedurals and shitty comedies.
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They moved its timeslot and let it dier.. ARRRGGHHH
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Best show on NBC.
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Mentioned previously, but still. Pretty funny. Nice cut and paste.
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The Longest running series ever?
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"Sunday
9:00 - Journeyman (not cancelled, just a long hiatus)" LOL! Fuck man, I wish. Best NBC show of the decade. Idiots, I say. I would donate money to have it come back. Or at LEAST give us a DVD... -
It getting CW-level shitty.
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The show has lasted longer than some of those great shows that Harry has loved. Examples include Wonderfalls and Pushing Daisies. Hell, Earl has lasted longer than those combined.
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The advertisers look at the 18-49 demo the most because that is the demo that spends the most money. It does hold more weight. With that said any type of stat can be skewed in different ways to make a point so I get your point. Plus total viewership is definitely still taken into account just not as much as the 18-49 demo at times.
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Parks has gotten less funny with each episode. It's bizarre and unfocused.
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Midseason, at 9PM Mondays, or on a different night. But there's very little wiggle room.
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What a D-bag
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TV Guide says, as of today no less, that people shouldn't hot their breaths for Chuck news on Monday. They also go on to say that while Chuck IS likely to be renewed, any sort of announcement WON'T be made for another week or two.
SOURCE: http://tinyurl.com/dmh2p8
I don't actually watch the show, but I figured that I should pass on the most recent news. This is based on a Friday dated e-mail from execu-prod Josh Schwartz to Chuck star Zachary Levi. -
Glad that Chuck was renewed. Really love the fun in that show!
Still hoping, praying, begging for Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles to come back. Come on Fox, I know you can do it! -
So many people around here sing the praises of that show that it's at least worth a look from me... especially now that the summer television drought is approaching and there will be no new 24, Lost, or Supernatural to watch.
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Is that the end of the finale should have been the end of the show.
I like the show well enough, it's fun and whatnot, but they wrapped everything up nicely at the finale - so either Morgan and Whatshername have gone to Hawaii and Chuck is no longer a BuyMore employee but a Neo style super-spy (too different a show for most fans to enjoy) or they have to have a reboot and piss everyone off.
I hope it succeeds if it does come back though.
As for Life - I enjoyed the first season but to be honest by the end there I had no clue what was going on, nor did I care. It took weird lurches in tone from whimsy to conspiracy-bullshit and was just becoming tiresome. Just let it die
And I have to say, I do like My Name is Earl. It isn't always great but it always makes me laugh at least once in it's 20 minutes, which is more than I can say for most comedies.
And one thing I will say in its favour, it has a consistency both in its characters and its continuity. There's a Simpsons-like attention to detail regarding recurring characters and character traits that really impresses me.
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He is worse than Harry. He has the worst taste, and blatantly ignores what readers want (Supernatural talkbacks, etc). Herc sucks dick.
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It's another show for nerd girls to drool over. There's nothing to talk about that show. It's boring!
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He's still the dude with the intersect in his head and so will still be the dude protected by Sarah and Casey and who the bad guys are trying to kill. He may know kung fu but who knows how long that will last and I'm sure he'll have a hard time using any new "powers" without screwing it up.
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last week. you should check it out.
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WTF - pull the plug or renew already. Cripes.
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Throwmetheidol
I take your point about him still requiring protection etc but I think a lot of the charm of the show was the goofiness of the concept and the characters
Are they going to bring back Morgan? Is Chuck going to have to go back to the Buymore? I just think it's going to end up stretching that charm I mentioned too thin. I hope not, it's a fun show. I'm just sick of shows that used to be good (scrubs for example) going on waaaaay too long -
How can a crapfest like that have double the numbers of Smallville and Supernatural? Tune in next week, someone burns the pudding and(gasp)they get yelled at by some flamer named GORDON!!!!!!!!! High drama indeed!
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Conan was making jokes about it, and I quit watching after the news broke. Shame though, it was pretty good. CHRISTIAN SLATER NEEDS TO BE ON 24 NEXT SEASON!!!
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Chuck and Lost are the only shows I watch religiously.
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I really enjoy Chuck but also felt like the last episode was the last of the series. Will it succeed without the goofiness , without buy more sub plot. Last thing I want to see is Chuck and Morgan's growth forgotten about, as was the case with Hiro in Heroes. Who developed so much in season 1, but reverted back to a clumsy clown.
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Word. http://tinyurl.com/cqcdzq
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At least for one more season so he can finish his list :) I do laugh at it more then P & R on average too.
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I stopped watching that show because 1) it was losing its humor and B) too many fucking Scientologists. Sorry about Life. To me Damian Lewis will always be Major Richard Winters from Band of Brothers. Anyway, NBC gets a reprieve by bringing back Chuck.
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Yeah, it did feel like the ends were tied up and finalized. 5 days of Leno? Honestly, who fucking thought of that? Worse still: who gave that idea the green light? Probably the same asshat who agreed to 5 days of Millionaire and Weakest Link. Thanks to you NBC, a large section of America is a bit smarter today. Leno? I couldn't stand it knowing that he was on at 11:30pm, now we get this thrown at us? Thanks a bunch, you friggin idiots. I hope your families get recalled. Dicks!
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...that NBC hired Fuller, and they have to give him a chance to put some lipstick on that pig, polish that turd)Kings died a quick, undeserved death, due to the mishandling and rescheduling--it is/was a unique enough show that it needed time to build an audience, but the shortsighted suits can't understand that. Those suits should move to Fox, but they are probably too busy greenlighting SciFi "originals" with a "Hey, it may suck, but it is cheap to make!!"Earl in Season 1 and most of Season 2 was pretty good, but it just got buried under its own premise after a while.Heroes DESERVES to be cancelled, but can understand NBC wanting to give it one last go with Fuller. But, if it doesn't recover next fall, look for a mid-season cancellation.Chuck was firing on all cylinders, successfully achieving exactly what they set out to do, pitch perfect. It really is the most FUN show on TV right now--glad it seems to have been renewed.
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asshat
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Zachary Levi said that NBC was going to take a week or more to make a decision on Chuck. They were hoping that an announcement would be made on Monday, but show creator Josh Schwartz told them that NBC has decided not to make an announcement, yet.
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b121695_chuck_decision_delayed_week_more.html
Though, of course, after this past week's ratings, and all the hype over whether or not it will be cancelled, they may go ahead and make an announcement. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. -
I can't believe they aren't renewing Life. It was one of he better shows out there!
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I'm not not very familiar with most the other shows.
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This year has been great. The fat guy had a heart attack on the show.
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May 03, 2009 8:14:41 PM CDT
I really think we're not going to find out anything on NBC's
by pennsydeux
until May 19, the day of NBC's actual upfront presentation. http://tinyurl.com/dc7lld
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Glad the Chuck fans got a renewal. Hopefully Fox won't axe Sarah Connor.
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Renew it, and they'll have a show that limps along in the ratings, struggling to get past a 2.5 in the demo, and there'll be as much a ratings bounce next season as there was for Jericho. Cancel it, and you piss off even more NBC viewers who may or may not make good on their threats to bail on the network altogether. I don't see NBC climbing out of 4th overall out of the 5 majors (I don't count MyNetworkTV as a major network, sorry) either way. Sucks to be them right now. Brandon Tartikoff is doing pirouettes in his grave right now at the way Ben Silverman and his cabal have so fucked over NBC, yet they continually fail upward.
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Splitting the difference, you could say. Why not? I believe they'd thrive there (see Burn Notice's excellent ratings) and would maybe get 2 more seasons out of it. Monk's departing later this year; why not have them on Fridays at 9? That way, NBC can get a new show that has a better chance of doing a 2.5 in the 18-49 demo on its regular lineup and still keep the Chuck fanbase happy in shipping it to USA.
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Glad it got renewed. Very creative and well written (most of the time, there was one really dumb episode this year, the plastic surgery one)
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When Leno comes on at 10, wait for the ratings to drop
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Yay. I'm still hoping for Terminator:SCC but I don't have much hope.
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Still an excellent show with many laughs.
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Former Entertainment Weekly critic Bruce Fretts once wrote a column advocating a tv series terrm limits rule: A max of five seasons or 100 episodes. I like Medium, but it has been lacking the extra oomph a formula show needs with the departures of Echevarria and Grillo-Marxuach. And it would also put poor David Cubitt's pained face out of his misery for being forced to work with Glen Caron's no talent heifer wife.
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Yes, some of the second season episodes were weak, but that season finale was one of the most badass episodes I have ever seen on television. Ever.
If they did more stuff like that, it wouldn't even be on the bubble. Why can't television be that badass more often?
And for the record, Journeyman was also one of the best shows on TV in recent years. Canceling it so soon was a chump move on NBC's part. I truly hate NBC.
The mere fact that they are dumping shows to make room for the truly terrible Jay Leno should tell you all you need to know.
I hope Leno fails miserably. Like Star Wars Christmas Special bad. Like Magic Johnson talk show bad. Like Geena Davis bad. Like Emeril bad. Like Rosie O'Donnell's latest debacle bad. And that's bad.
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...a whiny little bitch whose life holds no meaning. Suck it up, beyatch, Garcia never called you back because you were LAME!!!!
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May 03, 2009 10:17:14 PM CDT
"...forced to work with Glen Caron's no talent heifer wife."
by big jim
Should we all know who that is? Or is she someone who you went to high school with?
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are canceled. They all bite ass.
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...I wish this would happen more often. Honestly...how many good shows REMAIN good after the fifth season? Cheers? Smallville? (suck it, haters, this eighth season has been exceptional thus far) Too many once-great shows end up frittering away into a handful of lame-duck seasons where half of the cast ends up leaving and the show gets propped up with a bunch of new faces that no one gives a damn about. How long was it 1979 on That 70's Show, like the last four seasons? I know it's sad to lose a good show, but it's a lot MORE sad to have a former favorite deteriorate into blandness or outright unwatchability (like the post-1998 Simpsons, or that last, horrible season of The X-Files). Look at all those sitcoms that grind on for nine seasons or more. Even the good ones like Friends or King Of Queens or Will & Grace have little left to to say after being on the air for the better part of a DECADE. I hope next year will be the last season of 24, as season six sucked HARD, ans while season seven has been a definite improvement, the show is still recycling it's collection of stock characters/situations like crazy (ANOTHER virus attack, ANOTHER mole, ANOTHER President with a sinister cabinet, ect.).
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That was the only show on the bubble that I really wanted to come back. The other two that I wanted are pretty much certainly dead (Terminator and Dollhouse).
Too bad about Life. That's a decent show. And Earl is kind of dumb, I rarely watch it, but I still feel it's better then 3/4 of the comedies on TV... maybe I just like Joy.
The only bad thing about Chuck is that the last episode really was a great series finale. I really hope they don't try to cram everything back to the same buy-more formula. It worked, but I think the series has potential to be reinvented while still keeping the same sense of fun and style. -
I guess it does, 90% of their lineup is crappy, I couldn't really argue that point...
But I haven't watched regularly a show on CBS or ABC in at least five years. Surely they suck just as bad?
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the fucking trash heap of scientologist guest stars was pathetic...
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...or did I hallucinate that as a side effect of the rufies your mom slipped me?
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The line up there is always good. CBS has a fine line up too if you like cop/ghost shows. But CBS also has the best reality shows, Amazing Race, and Survivor
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It was just getting good again after a rocky 2nd season, but I suppose they ended the season the way they ended it because they knew it would be canceled. Oh well. Lewis may turn up on Bruckheimer's Miami doctor show - or not.
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A woman with no previous acting credits, despite being in her forties.
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Seriously. No need to elaborate there. And it's kind of cool that Law & order is going to run 20 years, if it hasn't already, but it's the one I watch the least. By a country mile.
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Love both shows am happy for Chuck but seriously how do they not renew Life.On any other network Life would be getting crazy ratings, which is a shame as you got to wonder exactly what is left for the suits at Nbc to do in order to bring viewers back.No point in even green lighting any show if folks would rather watch paint dry than tune into your Network.
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I'm a fairly educated cat, dig comics and what not, I watch a good amount of film and television, my bullshit-o-meter is usually pretty close the whatever consis is reached by the majority here at aicn. But fuck, I like Earl, Jason Lee is funny. Life is a great show. It really can't be accused of going by the numbers. and i fuckin love heroes. even bad heroes, and there's a silver lining with the return of Fuller. Am I really that far off base?
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"and i fuckin love heroes. even bad heroes"After reading that I would say yes....Yes you are.
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isn't exactly what you'd call "A+ Drama", but it's still a fun enough diversion. This season has been much more enjoyable than the last. Apart from the Anjelica Huston finale, last season was awful. This season, at the very least, is more consistent and less painful. To me, the real problems with the show are still:
- The opening dream gag is tired. Plus, it foreshadows the rest of the episode WAY too much. Anybody with half a brain can figure it all out.
- Predictably, the killer is always the celeb guest star. Same problem in general with Law & Order. For once, I'd like to see the celeb guest be the victim or something.
- We get it. She dreams about murders. Can we at least NOT have 50% of the episode take place in bed or a dark bedroom? Stray from the formula a bit. It couldn't hurt.
- Costume dept should be shot. Nobody's going to turn into "Fat Chicks Who Can See Dead People." Off screen, Arquette's got a decent bod. She's not fat, rather more along the lines of a normal chick. They can't decide if they want her to be matronly, hot & thin, or outright borderline pregnant fat. You never know which version is going to appear from scene to scene.
- It would have been nice if at least ONE of her kids didn't read minds or see dead people. She's practically got the fucking X-Men living in her house.
ANYWAY.....
I think that the "franchise" procedurals like CSI or Law & Order should get pared down. Really.
The original Law & Order has gotten tired. Yeah. 20 years is a nice feat, but the original show is the most boring of the 3. The cast is totally unlikable - outside of Jack McCoy.
Criminal Intent was best when the focus was all on D'Onofrio and Erbe's Goren & Eeames characters. Not sure why Vincent opted to work half a season, but its distracting. Chris Noth's a tool and no amount of fanboy gushing can get me to accept that Jeff Goldblum is a cop.
I say that they should trip it down to SVU and a D'Onofrio/Erbe led CI.
Don't even ask me why CSI needs 3 series. That's like trying to make 2 more NCSIs. I can't even tolerate the one that they already have.
Who cares....
I've got not faith in networks anyway.
The CW will keep even the biggest shit on only because a "hit" to them is all relative since their market share is pebble tiny.
NBC is only great with the overblown hype end of promoting shows. They back dead horses that are circling the drain and fail to support the cult faves that stand to capture the most heavily desired demos.
FOX..... More like FUCKS instead. If it isn't 24 or the Simpsons they don't give a shit. They purposely screw over any decent sci-fi show by sticking it on Friday night. Just look at how many good sci-fi shows got the "death slot" treatment. They just don't respect their audiences. This is NOT the same FOX that went out on a limb with crazy shit like Married with Children, 21 Jump Street, Herman's Head, or Get a Life. They'd rather put out safe tween happy garbage like American (False) Idol. If FOX cancels TSCC... They're dead to me.
CBS.... Great if you're over 60. My dick still works and I can still see without strapping on binoculars. I'm not that desperate enough to flip to CBS. I'd rather sip cyanide laced Kool Aid first.
As company, ABC is the lesser of evils lately, but they're also as much of a massive tool for Disney. They had the brains to scoop up old faves shows like Scrubs and start some potential new faves like Better Off Ted. They've vastly improved Lost. They've even had some intriguing news magazine specials. However, you can never shake the feeling that, at any moment, Walt Disney's frozen corpse will rise up. I'm creeped out at the notion that Zombie Walt will stumble about, demand that the "coloreds" be replaced by Mickey and his friends, & turn the biggest hit shows into theme park rides.
I'm beginning to HATE television. Too much corporate fueled trash. Too much "safe" crap like the so-called reality shows. Too many cookie cutter procedurals. Too little faith in sci-fi. Too much hype and not enough balls. Don't even get me started on the dozen+ syndicated court shows that fill their affiliates' rosters.
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I still like both Heroes & Earl. I just don't LOVE both anymore.
Heroes lost its way. Too convoluted. Too much dead weight. Too many apparent budget related VFX cuts. Too little actual drama. Very weak story arcs. Shallow characterization.
Earl is funny...again. The show really fell head first into the shitter with last season's coma & jail story arcs. Deviating from the list was the biggest mistake the show ever made. To the executive producer.... Yeah. The show IS about Earl and the list. Earl without the list and outside of the familiar setting is just crap.
The remaining problem with Earl is that it simply never managed to recapture its lost momentum. There are still some standout eps like the Danny Glover / Crabman one or the roid raged Randy one. However, those still aren't the best of the best.
I'm still with the Office though. Still convinced that it has some life left in it. The Michael Scott Paper Company arc convinced me that they could play him as something more than just a cartoonish dolt. I would have liked to see more of Idris Elba, but I like what they've done this past 1/2 season. Here's hoping that they can capitalize on this 2nd wind of funny for next season. -
There's nothing inherently wrong with the show at all. The competition is just too intense at that Thursday 8pm slot now. With Bones on Fox, Smallville on CW, & Fugly Betty on ABC... Earl's got a big fight. I wonder how much of that audience now watches Bones and DVRs Earl. IIRC, Bones was on Tuesday or Wednesday last season. Now, it plays like twice a week.
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YES, re: Earl (and Heroes & The Office for that matter, although I'm to the point I dunno if I'll be back next season for Heroes). Earl was funny, then season 3. Woof. But it's gotten a lot better again...I just don't see how it's nearly as good as it was the first two seasons. But that last episode, with the 'Execs can Suck It' ending, that was priceless.
I really, really, REELLY don't get Herc's blatant dislike and his going-out-of-the-way-to-bash-it attitude (I haven't been around these TBs forever, so maybe there's a story there I missed). And the only real complaints I've ever seen people make about the show is that:
A). It's about 'rednecks' and therefore they can't identify with it (hey, you guys who say that, you like Star Wars? Or Star Trek? Or ANY horror movie? I'm hoping on this sci-fi/horror 'genre' website that covers most people. Sooooo...does that mean you live in a galaxy far, far away? Or work on the Enterprise? Or are a serial killer? THINK ABOUT IT!)
or B). There are some scientologists on the show. So big-fucking what? We now can bash on shows because we don't agree with their political or religious views of the ACTORS? And that's the basis for why the show is good or bad? Maybe I'm off here, maybe all the individuals involved in the show are scientologists, but even still, SO FUCKING WHAT? I liked Tropic Thunder, but because scientologist Tom Cruise is in it it's therefore not a good movie? WTF, really? -
Programming execs are fickle, and the press often gets it wrong. But I am cautiously optimistic about Chuck, and Southland is a lock to return if only by the amount of cock-stroking NBC does over it. It's an OK show, but would be better if they just focused on the unis and their adventures; the plain-clothes cops are snooze-inducing.Really, though, as long as the cable outlets keep cranking out quality fare, I could give two shits about the broadcast networks.
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Even amongst geeks/nerds (or sub-genre viewers as some execs now call us).
From the NBC line up, I'm still enjoying Earl. I'll watch Heroes if its on, but no longer enjoy it. And I started watching Chuck, and blitzed through the first 20 episodes in a week. It's enjoyable, but not *funny*. I think Casey is the only one I've laughed at.
Oh, and Hells Kitchen? Love that show. :) I may be in a minority on this talkback, but its ratings are still decent. SN for the win, though. -
The new Intersect will not make Chuck a super spy. He will still need to flash to gain abilities, and they probably won't always be the abilities he needs. So, the show will retain its comedy, and probably only increase it, while also keeping Chuck the awkward spy.
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WTF, why not renew it.
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Nobody is or will bash the outrageous amount of jews on tv.
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Second season was maybe tin. I think NBC got it's grubby little paws on it and the result was a show all over the place. Damien Lewis was great.
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This show, along with The Simpsons, will still be on when the sun burns out and swells to engulf the Earth.
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Dammit, we need more shows like this. I don't understand all the hate for this show. Sure, last year kinda blew, but the shows this year have been great. Jamie Presley is the next Lucille Ball, boys and girls.
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Interested to hear what others thought about this show. I thought the one hour premier was great, but it kinda lost steam after a few episodes. Still inteterested to see if it gets renewed, since it did at least get me to Tivo the series.
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Interested to hear what others thought about this show. I thought the one hour premier was great, but it kinda lost steam after a few episodes. Still inteterested to see if it gets renewed, since it did at least get me to Tivo the series.
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I just took a look at the Taint Shooting Bastards episode - very funny. I will give this series a try. Thanks for bringing it up.
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At least give TSCC another 13 episodes. With BATTLESTAR GALACTICA off the air and CAPRICA not arriving until 2010, there's a big void for well-written TV sci-fi. (No, that's obviously not DOLLHOUSE.)
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May 04, 2009 9:27:56 AM CDT
Spy guy 13 episodes is the right run for this series
by miyamoto_musashi
No padding, just tell the story.
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We don't need to bash them, Family Guy does that shit more than enough for anyone.
Besides, when's the last time a Jewish church has been responsible for killing someone?
Scientologists on the other hand... Let me quote the great comedian Doug Stanhope "I'll have more material about the Scientologists, once I get a stronger legal team." -
I may have only watched Son Of The Beach for Kim Oja's delicious bod (why did they always put her in a one piece? WTF?) but I quickly realised how fucking funny Tim Stack is. His self-send up in Earl ranks up with the creation of Larry Sanders, IMO.
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Why is Life described as a "cult" show?? That makes NO fucking sense..if they cancel it, I will NEVER EVER NEVER watch NBC...Life is the only show I watch on that shitbag channel that features the horrible Heroes and that stupid 30 Rock...I hope the network goes down in a firey ratings crash when Mr. Long Chin takes up the 10 slot and fails
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version of himself, TVs Tim Stack, still wearing his Son Of The Beach gear (nice), is the only funny thing on Earl anymore. But you can trot out stupid redneck jokes and characters for only so long.So my question is...where are the Night Stand DVDs?
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let´s make it official now bitchesss!!
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Why?!! Why can't I have my cake and eat it too? I'm so happy that Chuck is coming back, but extremely bummed about Life! I'm a huge fan of Damien Lewis. There's no other cop drama like Life around (except Life on Mars, but we saw what they did with that show).
Speaking of being a fan of Damien Lewis. If you haven't seen Band of Brothers, you should take the time to watch it this summer. Phenominal HBO mini-series about 101st Airborne's EZ Company in WWII. Damien Lewis plays the main character, Richard Winters (did anyone know he's a British actor). -
Per Hollywoord Reporter and Variety, NBC still hasn't mentioned Chuck in their lineup they announced this morning. Fingers are still crossed.
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http://tinyurl.com/clrk8n Here's hoping that Ausiello and Kristin were right where Finke was wrong and the announcement is just 2 long weeks away on May 19th.
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of NBC's NEW shows. There was never an intent to reveal the fate of their bubble shows until the actual upfront week, which starts May 18.
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I don't trust NBC to know a good show if it fell in their laps and gave them head. I heard rumors of a "Jericho"-style campaign where Nerds (the candy, not anyone we know) would be sent en masse to NBC as a sign of support for "Chuck." Has that kicked off yet?
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Parks and Rec has been garbage from the start; the only thing that show has going for it is the hot intern who is essentially a knock-off of Ryan on the Office. The show is mean-spirited, Rashida Jones' role makes no sense, the jokes are cheap, Amy Poehler is the lamest Michael Scott rip-off they could have dreamed up.
The thing about the office is, there is a fair amount of cruelty and duplicity, but each character has is an individual and has some nuance. Her side-kick (the Indian dude) is just a straight up dick.
Heroes has never really made much sense, but the episodes in the last couple of seasons I've bothered to check out are baffling - people losing powers then inexplicably gaining them back, switching sides for no apparent reason and, worst of all, sitting around talking and talking and talking about their motives endlessly. Just killed it, wait a couple of years and try something similar, only, this time have a plot. Or just get over the whole superhero thing for awhile anyway. i think we could all use a break. -
Besides the big budget? The lead dude who looks like Matt Damon's wussy kid brother, was just weak. He looked like he was about to break down and cry in virtually every scene.
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"Oh, people... no."
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How goes the shitheel smiting?
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Not when I first watched Band of Brothers. Although I did know it by the time I watched a "making of" documentary and I first heard him speak naturally. It threw me a bit but not nearly as much as when I first heard Ross McCall (Liebgott) speak naturally. He's Scottish.
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May 04, 2009 12:27:48 PM CDT
How was Parks and Recreations renewed and Chuck has to wait?
by rob0729
Parks and Recreations is horrible and it is like watching paint dry. Even with the declining quality of Earl and the Office, it is the only Thursday show on NBC that I don't watch every week.
I didn't care about the American version of The Office at first either (I found Michael just more unconfortably inappropriate than funny inappropriate). So maybe P & R will get better. I find the cast just unappealing and non-descript for the most part. -
Here is what a rival network exec said about Chuck: "Its demo is fairly solid...NBC needs to build off what it has that works. They need MORE Josh Schwartz, not less."
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I'm glad someone else was here to witness this appearance. I prostarte myself for the Smiter or Shitheels. Pencils at the ready! I gotta tell Kloipy
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No more Knight Rider! That show sucked ass!
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One of the smartest, most graceful detective procedurals e'er I seen. But CHUCK coming back will definitely soften that blow.
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The save Chuck campaign is in full effect. They are asking people to go to subway, buy a sub,and then leave a save Chuck message in the sugguestion box. Subway is Chuck's biggest advertiser. Zachery Levi took 600 people to Subway in England which is getting a lot of video play on the net.
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Xi notified me of His presence.
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Just confirmed by Sliverman at the upfronts. No news on Medium & Chuck. But it's not looking good. Silverman just said that Heroes will be paired with a new show when it returns in the fall. (courtesy of televisonary & Ausellio tweets)
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What Law and Order:fill in the blank is to the original. I like more original programming, not the same thing but worse.
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That is a damn good question, that show was fan-fucking-tastic.
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...the write up on that new NBC show looks promising, in a "Freaks and Geeks" kind of way. And Chevy Chase is supposedly in the cast. Has this been reported here before?
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Amazing it lasted this long.
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Where the fuck is my Journeyman DVD? The only consolation about this cancelling shows within 13 episodes shit is that I can get them on DVD. Cough it up, NBC, you bitch!
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As long as the focus stays on Ryan Atwood, his training officer, C. Thomas "Wolverinesssss" Howell and the blond chick with the wierd name. When it cuts to the Detectives the show slows way the hell down.
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UK viewer here, and I love me some Earl. Been a loyal viewer since episode 1. It's never been attention grabbing, or highly watched over here, but it quietly gets on with the job of entertaining me week after week. It has it's own Simpsons-esque band of characters of which there's not one whom you don't enjoy the being in the company of. It's smart, has oodles of charm and if it really is being cancelled, I for one will be sad to see it go. Please let it have a decent closure though.
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Burt be praised!
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Well done, NBC. Chuck all of a sudden went from an entertaining hour a week, into an absolutely incredible show which i look foward to as much as anything on tv. And the twist in the season finale was absolutely brilliant and inspired and opens so many doors... i never thought i'd see the show evolve the way it has.
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i really liked life, but would have rather seen a bunch of really great episodes that had a very solid cases, then leave a few of those cases incomplete, so they can follow up with the final bit of the incomplete case while spending alot of time really moving the overal arc further. I really liked the show, but the cases weren't interesting, and the overall arc was given in very, very tiny bits, to where i kind of lost interest in the arc. But Charlie Cruz was the rock on Life... i didn't really like the cases, felt they mishandled the story arc, but I would keep watching because Charlie Cruz is a great character, the actor nails. We'd be watching an episode, Charlie is being his zen and quirky self, and then BAM charlie does someting to show that there is an angry badass you just don't want to fuck around with, which reminds you--the guy spent alot of time in prison. Case in point: he carries a fucking knife and will pull it on a criminal in an alley. Cruz was NBC's house--standard, mostly self contained, that are worth watching for the main character and actor even if everything else isn't that great.
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Mentalist does the whole solve a crime an episode thing better than life. You don't hear much about mentalist on ainc... am i part of a minorty who likes it?
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'related to life' i looked at that after posting and think that'd be a decent name for a band or album or song title. that is all.
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'related to life' i looked at that after posting and think that'd be a decent name for a band or album or song title. that is all.
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It's quirky and fun but the Red John subplot gives Jane's character depth I did not expect to see on a CBS show.As much as I love Life, I found some of the season-arc segments forced into the episodes. Some of those scenes didn't flow naturally from crime-of-the-week and back again.
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Thus far I have only read about it, and it sounded interesting. That was a show I was hoping would hang around for a few seasons and build up to something worthwhile. I was waiting until at least a few more episodes were out before I started watching because it usually takes me a few episodes to get a decent feel for a show, and I don't like stringing out stories for weeks. Maybe too many people did the same. Alas.
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"Walter, it's time to go" implies Fringe is going. It's not, it's staying. Meanwhile, the headline on this piece continues to state Medium is firmly renewed, which as of yet is not a sealed deal. Not to rule it out, but... to be announced...
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