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AICN Dedicated Talkback: Here Comes WOLVERINE!!
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Merrick here...
Tonight at midnight, theaters near and far will begin screening X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE for the public en masse.
Did Gavin Hood, the Donners, Jackman, etc. make it worth our wait? Did they botch it completely? Or, is reality somewhere in between?
Feel free to register your love, disdain, indifference, and more for WOLVERINE in the Talkback below. We'll try to keep this Talkback visible on AICN's main page throughout the weekend - so be sure to check in from time to time to see what the world is saying. And, of course, you should throw your own thoughts into the mix as well!
Needless to say, there will be spoilers below, so consider yourself forewarned...
Have fun!
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Who Cares
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Newsarama, several other comic sites, and even Ebert has a review. What's going on?
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is Hilariously Dismissive. Still going to see it, if only for the Trainwreck Factor.
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Saludos from México
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...that's what I said. Haven't said it before and probably won't say it again either.
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People are paying to see this shit? Downloaded the MF and hated it. Wont be seeing it in the theater.
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First pic showing the Hall of Armor from the sequel: http://tinyurl.com/d5tfsd
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sue me but i liked it, i hope they make a sequel and more orgins movies..how about one about nightcrawler...also, lets get an x4, or maybe a movies about iceman vs pyro set after last stand?
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Saw it in Australia last night (we opened on Wednesday)... It's on par with the rest of the X-Men films, which is still pretty good. But it definitely didn't blow my mind with amazingness like the first time I saw Iron Man...
I saw Star Trek at an advanced screening last week, which is still my pick for Summer (Winter in Aus) Blockbuster of the year so far. It's fucking amazing! Bring on the next one! -
then please, please don't go to the theatre to watch it anyway for the "trainwreck factor".
That will only boost the films takings and enbolden Fox to create more bastardizations of our comic book heroes.
I've seen the movie (I work at a cinema) and it is terrible. The way in which Deadpool is portrayed is nothing but a single giant middle finger from Rothman et all. Deadpool is, was and always shall be, "the merc with a mouth".
Not, and I repeat not, "the merc with his mouth sewn shut for no apparent reason."
I felt insulted and I'm not really even a Deadpool fan.
At the end of the day, it's your choice what to spend your money on, but I'm sure that there are better things than this awful dreck. -
I trust those above all else.
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I actually GO to nukethefridge, but this TB spamming has got to stop. Everyone here can fucking read, and your message is sent the first time. Your posts should be deleted, and you should be banned.
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Apr 30, 2009 9:13:26 PM CDT
People even laughed at the red carpet premiere on Tuesday.
by speed fricassee
I mean, this thing is catwoman bad. It's fuckin' BLADE: TRINITY bad!!!
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I plan on watching my dog take a shit all weekend instead.
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When the Fallen's giant moose cock will be fucking our eyeballs out in 2009!
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Ok, so is this movie just NOT WORTHY of AICN reviews? Or do they just expect us to have all seen workprint already?
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and the word is out. And that word is that it's the same frickin movie as the download, just with "finished" fx and sound mix.
That was the big secret - that this WAS the reshot version. In other words, imagine how astonishingly bad the original version must have been.
Rothman is to moviemaking as AIDS is to porking. -
Shit
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You could really trash the lights with those claws. Fucken A!
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fail.
Too many characters... cheesy effects. VERY loose interpretation of the comic characters many of us are used to.
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It was preeeeety bullshit, i mean why the fuck did he box the fucking blob when he has indestructible claws? COMEDY GOLD! That why!
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was better
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Apr 30, 2009 9:20:00 PM CDT
AICN isn't reviewing it as there's a lot of Fox dollars at stake
by paulseta
... and that means the way around breaking whatever deal they have is to let the talkbackers do the eviceration for them...
Fox desparately tried to keep a lid on the fact that the download IS the final version, more or less, and that the film is very very unfriendly to the geek crowd: i.e. people who read this site.
They're hoping against hope that they get a good opening weekend (or even opening NIGHT) as that's where the majority of the upfront cash flow will come from.
Even Jackman had that look of desparation on his face when he was flogging this one in Australia recently...
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Someone had to say it. Oh and whoever cast Taylor Kitcsh as Gambit deserves to be reamed in prison.
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Apr 30, 2009 9:22:46 PM CDT
Origins is at 37% on Rotten Tomatoes and dropping by the minute!
by ganymede3010
What fucking disaster.
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Holy fucking christ! I've never felt this cheated since the TPM. How sad. Brian Singer please come back and save this franchise please.
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By a large margin. It's Elektra bad. Worse, maybe, when you take into account how much more potential a Hugh Jackman Wolverine film has over a Jennifer Garner Elektra film.
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another insult to the filmgoer...people wait a week for a real film
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That being said...at least there is a lot of action. Something that comic movies seem to be lacking.
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If they like the character Cyclops so much that they wanted to show him in the prequel, maybe they shouldn't have killed him. Memo to Fox:
What fans want to see - adult Cyclops alive and "Zarking" people. What we don't want to see - a teenage Cyclops running. Fox should run a full page add in Variety apologizing to X fans. -
Would you expect anything less:
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This film is not a disaster per se, but I wouldn't waste my money on it.
Sorry folks.
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BLADE TRINITY
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I actually just checked out the site despite the troll on the boards here. It sucks, just stories cut and pasted from here, chud and Hitfix.
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I saw it last night at a special screening and can say it's not great. It's not vomiting on dog crap bad, but it's on par with Spider-Man 3. I say this knowing nothing really deep about any of the characters aside from Wolverine, Sabertooth, Cyclops, and Emma Frost. Yes, I know characters are involved that aren't being done according to canon (between X-Men and Star Trek, I'm growing as weary of the word 'canon' as I am of 'antepentultimate'). But I found it a decent two hour diversion. You're not going to get Citizen Kane or Casablanca out of a comic book movie. Can they be made better? Sure as shit they can. They can also be made worse. Ang Lee's Hulk. Nick Fury: Agent of SHIELD. Granted, I think it's ignorant and cheap, along the lines of "X-Men 3" to fuck with the origins of some of these characters, but this is a better film than that. At times, it's what I wanted a Wolverine stand-alone to be: Logan trying to make a peaceful living for himself, but every time he gets settled, a mutant shows up and screws everything up. I'm not saying see it or don't see it. I'm in no position. I'm not a diehard fan of the books. I'll feel more comfortable telling people whether they should or shouldn't see "Trek" next week, and about addressing what's been rewritten there, than I would be here. Oh, and as I expected, Gambit was a pain in the ass. But at least you can kinda see Emma Frost's diamond-hard nips through her wifebeater in a shot. NICE.
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he's got the legs for it
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:o| Wowzers
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NOW!!
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"The first spin-off of the X-Men movies has heart, action and Shakespearean-style tragedy, and uncompromisingly plays for keeps"Shakespeare? srsly?
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not enough to NOT see wolverine, but you have to see something else, anything else...fuck it up...go see OBSESSED. Make it 2 weeks on top.
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Even though I already saw this flaming piece of shit, my faggot friends don't trust me and still want to see it. One guy offered to buy my ticket if I went. So heres to hoping that it doesn't suck as much I as it did before.
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NOW!!TALKBACK AIN'T FOR SHILLING!!!!!!
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The Celtics just got screwed
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Why does Stryker decide to destroy a man he just finished making even more indestructible than he was before? Why does he think sending Agent Zero, some guy with a gun, after Wolverine will do anything? How come he didn't give Agent Zero adamantium bullets if that's the only thing that could kill Wolverine? How did he know that anyway? What the fuck is the point of using Wolverine's genes to create some multi-powered mutant just to send that mutant back after Wolverine? (who you just made indestructible for no other reason than to try and kill) How does the science behind the Deadpool monstrosity thing work anyway? How does he bend his arms if he has those huge blades in there? How come Wolverine left his sexfriend in the woods to rot? Why didn't he notice she was alive and not wounded? Why are his super-senses broken for half of the movie? Why are Wolverine and Sabretooth in Nam if they're Canadian? Can someone explain why Gambit was in this story and how exactly he had any sort of crucial impact on it? Why is Storm about 5ish if Cyclops is 16ish and Gambit is 25ish? How come these people don't recognize each other when all this prequel has sequeled? Who decided Will.I.Am would be a good idea after the way Nightcrawler was handled in X2? and etc.
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Apr 30, 2009 9:37:15 PM CDT
anybody leaving their houses to go see WOLVERINE tonight
by six demon bag
will not have a home when they get back...BALE commands it
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Celtics, despite being screwed over take it into OT3
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the CGI claws looked like shit. That is my only complaint. Liev Schreiber stole every fucking scene he was in, too. In fact, he pretty much stole the whole fucking movie.
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but I've gotten a very distinct Spider-Man 3 vibe. That said, I'll still check it out this weekend.
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Okay, so I have two complaints.
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whats the point of stealing a shitty movie? SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT. by the way which ending did you see?
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They're in triple overtime, sir. The game ain't over yet! Have faith!
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...and I'll say it again: Jackman is not the definitive Wolvie. Never was, never will be. Too fucking tall, face like a horse, not gruff enough, not tough enough. The majority of it is the bad fucking writing in all 3 X Movies, a franchise that never got its due. Shame. With the bar set so high by The Dark Knight, hopefully we will see comic movie trash get less and less returns, with only quality pieces bringing home the bacon.
MAYBE then chairy execs will see that how you handle the characters counts and throwing shlop at us will bring less and less money. Maybe. -
yeah, there'll be another one
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First public screenings started Tuesday in Australia. Can't say it was good. And I'm pissed off that Ryan Renolds's character ended the way he did, he was the best thing about the movie from the start, i wanted to see more of that character.
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Don't watch it. Don't give Fox your money.
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WHICH ENDING DID YOU SEE??? wanna find out how many there are or if this was another FOX lie
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It might as well have been directed by Brett Ratner, because there wasn't a single moment of visual coolness in the whole thing.
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Brian Singer doesn't give a fuck about you or the franchise. I'm sick of people acting like things would have been better if he had stayed on the trilogy. Wiki the first film and read why he turned down the first one before changing his mind. He thinks comic books are for retards. He half ass directed both films before leaving to half ass direct Superman Returns. Maybe people should actually hope a director who would really care about the fan base would take over.
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To not put up your reviews ?
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fuckem, wouldnt be surprised if rothman started the whole thing
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Great`game
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I wish I could watch it :( Stuck off the coast of Africa on a shitty connection waiting for a shitty site to update. It's not good for my health I tell you.
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I'm guessing it was a smart move. Plus it was free. I can't wait not to see this steaming pile of crap.
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Apr 30, 2009 9:51:28 PM CDT
Ebert and Travers - 2 guys that normally have a clue
by miyamoto_musashi
Both reviews pretty telling
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Best`game
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...or the pirated version, but based just on the trailers I've had doubts.
For me when I start looking at details like how fake Wolverine's blades look, or how they don't look to be cutting a Hummer but instead just passing through the same point in space then I know the movie doesn't have my attention at level it should.
Movies based on comics I tend to give physics exceptions to but if you are going to make a movie where you defy physics at least make it believable, or less obvious CGI.
I know the physics behind Iron Man's suit don't work with the technology of today, but I wasn't thinking that when I watched it.
I know the Bat Pod popping out of the Bat Mobile would be difficult to have given all the other things the Bat Mobile could do, and the Bat Pod itself couldn't work the way it did, but I wasn't thinking that when I watched TDK. -
Yeah, I'm in a similar situation here. I've been on the edge of my seat for about an hour.
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But X-men Origins: Wolverine was really bad. Not terrible, but just bad. Really bad.
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You are shit.
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is Joshua Swaneys.
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Massive missteps, it's not as bad as I expected. There's about an hour of good material here, 30 mins of serviceable, has-nothing-to-do-with-the-comics stuff, but what the hell? And then about 20 of "Are you kidding me?" moments, like Wolvie's two (2!)"MENDOZA!" type screams. Would've been better off focusing on Wolverine vs. Sabretooth the whole time and pruning about 6 characters from the script (memo to Rothman/Donner - just cause you have the rights to use a character and can probably make a bajillion dollars off the action figures does not mean they fit in the story. With great intellectual property rights comes great responsibility). Would have been much better of letting the rights default so Marvel could get control of this material again. While the movie has a great many sins, most of them are no worse than your typical action-movie cliches. The biggest by far is the treatment of Deadpool. The sad part is, actually using the character from the comics could have really worked in this movie. There's real space for an amoral mercenary here. Despite all that, I really didn't feel the complete lack of satisfaction I did from X3. This is a far, far cry from the world Marvel set up in the comics. But for all that, it HALF-works. If only they could get the other half up to snuff.
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I used to read his stuff, but he gives positive reviews to shitty movies often, only so he can get his name on the cover of a movie poster/dvd.
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I may hate you.
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They actually built that Bat Pod and it actually did work almost as well as portrayed in the movie. They didn't even have a problem with getting the cape caught in the tires. It's not a strain on my disbelief to imagine that a billionaire investor would be able to put more R&D into it than a film production, at least to get it up to the type of specs shown.
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but it will take away all his memories. = WTF LAME.
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Fuck the refs, fuck the Bulls, fuck everything
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according to his Twitter
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Such a shame. It had potential. Lots. Of. Potential.
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but I fear studio input and bad direction/editing have made future origins movies a long shot.
If done well, I could sit and watch an extended look at Magneto and what he experienced in WWII German camps, finding out how he and Professor Xavier met, eventually developed Cerebro, and had a falling out.
That would be a true back story with one main character, a returning supporting character (who we already know has a history with the lead) and a few previously unseen characters along the way that might tie into part of the X-Men story we've already seen.
At first I was happy to see a few unseen mutants in the Wolverine movie, then I saw how many and that there were tie ins to Cyclops, Storm and who knows how many others. If the young versions of them have to be put into the film then it isn't standing well on it's own. I could see some cameo by Professor Xavier because we know he knew of Logan before Logan joined the X-Men. I could see having a couple mutants on Logan's side and a couple to fight. I think this film will suffer the same fate as X3; too many new mutants taking up screen time for establishment or are just thrown in to draw fans of those characters into the theater, only to disappoint them. -
1. What did Swayne think ?
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If the NBA score updater is to believed, the Celtics twice had a 3 pointer cut to a 2 pointer during critical times. Fuck it all, Bulls will take the final game now.
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"...just cause you have the rights to use a character and can probably make a bajillion dollars off the action figures does not mean they fit in the story." You're talking to a brick wall, friend. Fox gives no fuck for such things and will squeeze every red cent out of what they paid Marvel for and will readily do things such as X-MEN ORIGINS as long as is legally possible. They'd even hire Roger Corman to slap together a rights-keeper. Just you wait. It'll happen. Probably with Daredevil. Or perhaps a Thing movie.
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IT WAS GOOD, NOT GREAT, 7.5 OUT OF 10
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See it if you must, but wait until its second week or something. Don't let this do 70+ this weekend or you are essentially giving Fox permission to keep doing this to us. And by us I mean humanity.
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it's that Ryan Reynolds would actually make a really cool Deadpool. From the interviews I've seen with him he totally understands the character and in the first part of the film his performance is really good.
Things get really bad though once Wolverine returns to Stryker's Island (I think that's what it's called) and we see Deadpool as Weapon XI.
As for the ending (after the credits roll) the version I saw was with Wolverine sitting in a bar in Japan saying that he is "drinking to remember."
I have heard that there is another ending where Deadpool's severed head (whoose mouth has magically unsealed itself) says "Shhhhhhh."
Another thing that annoys me is why oh why doesn't Cyclops know who Wolverine is? Ok, so his eyes were covered during the rescue, but are we supposed to think that he didn't ask Professor X or any other of the captured mutants who it was that rescued them from thier cages?
Even if he wasn't told a name, there must have been someone who said that there was this crazy guy with blades coming out of his hands who saved us.
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Yes, I know they actually built a working Bat Pod. If you have seen the behind the scenes features you would see that the real Bat Pod was powered by a small single cylinder combustion motor. It was able to do most things we saw, but at 700 pounds to achieve the implied speeds and agility in the movie (well done editing) it would take a lot of work to get there. Not saying it can't be done, just that it is hard given that the movie Bat Pod "used" not so off the shelf technology. I'm a motorcycle racer and mechanic by trade so I know a bit about bikes and how they work....now back to the TB about Wolverine.
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Smacks of the worst late '90s comics when every new issue have four different covers. Same sort of money grab.
And apparently the leaked work print is exactly the same movie that is currently being shown in theaters nationwide.
Way to fuck up a franchise, Fox. You fuckers should stick to making fake news for Republitards. -
I've got some bad allergies acting up.
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Like he's the only wise-ass with rippling abdominal muscles in Hollywood. I'm sick of all the hyperbole being thrown at his take on Deadpool. He was Ryan Reynolds with swords, big deal. Maybe if the movie didn't completely shit the bed with his character it would have worked, but at this point complimenting his performance is like complimenting the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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From what I understand, one of the secret endings shows that the Weird multi-mutant Deadpool isn't the real deadpool, merely a clone.
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Really, really comfy from what I hear.
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Such a piece of shit. I'm glad I stole it and saved myself 10 bucks and a whole lotta rage. I will admit the Baby Wolverine "noooooooo!" stabby scene in the beginning is so bad it's fucking hilarious. I laughed all the way through the opening credits.
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And, a commercial for this movie came on. One person asked what Ryan Reynolds was doing in this, I said he was Deadpool. They then wondered why he didn't have a mask on.Seriously... the fuck?
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I just said that he was good in the role, I think he is right for the part and if Rothman left Fox tomorrow (or should we really be blaming a certain Ms Donner for being the hands on producer of this movie) then I would definately go and see it.
If I was throwing hyperbole his way I would be saying; Oh my god, Reynolds is incredible in this movie, every time he was on screen I was transfixed. His performance reminded me of Brando in On The Waterfront, or DeNiro in Taxi Driver. Seriously, if this guys doesn't get an Oscar nod then I'm gonna stop going to the movies.
That is hyperbole.
In fact Gwai Lo, here is a definiton of the word for ya;
Hyperbole is used to create emphasis. It is a literary device often used in poetry, and is frequently encountered in casual speech. It is also a visual technique in which a deliberate exaggeration of a particular part of an image is employed. -
I guess I should have assumed that someone with a user name like yours would already know how well the Batpod works, heh.
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We had Sabertooth in the first film played by Tyler Mane, for consistency I think if they were to bring Sabertooth back he should have reprized his role instead of Liev Schreiber.
In the first film Sabertooth was played as the not always capable right hand thug of Magneto. In this film Sabertooth appears to be played more as a smart leader who is the ideal adversary to Wolverine. Did the @$$ beating I assume Sabertooth get is in the Wolverine movie dumb him down...and make him blond and grow his hair long? Sabertooth (X-Men) http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1616287744/tt0120903 Sabertooth (Wolverine) http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3813903104/ch0001103 -
"If you came to this movie to be disappointed, you won't be disappointed!"
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You seriously need to get out more.
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Can someone please explain to me why so many people are saying; "This movie looks like a piece of crap, how dare Fox screw up my favourite characters! Fuck them! I'm still going to pay my 10 bucks and see it though."
It's crazy, don't these guys realise that they are funding these bad movies?
If you think it looks like crap, if you have looked at all the spoilers and hate what you've read then don't go and see the movie.
Make a definate stand, refuse to give them your money and if you simply must see it at some point, why not rent it from your local store and get as many of your friends round to watch it as you can, thereby impacting their rental revenue as well. -
Because FOX doesn't invite us to screenings - and I'm not gonna pay to see a bad film willingly.
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it was alright, really nothing special.
I really didn't expect to say it, but Star Trek is going to blow this film out of the water.
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HA well done, I'd rather stare at the iron man 2 pic for two hours that see that POS again.
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It's not just you. The fanboys have it almost unanimously that Ryan Reynolds was 'the perfect Deadpool'. Since this is based on a brief action scene and about ten lines of dialogue that occur before the character gets completely fucked up, all the gushing (words like: perfect, awesome, great, inspired, amazing, really cool) are hyperbole in my opinion. But thanks for the copy paste from whatever online dictionary most fits your opinion there. Ryan Reynolds WAS Deadpool, and look what we got. He gets very little of the blame, ultimately, but now he is an inextricable part of this disaster and will call up associations to it in any possible future take on the character. Even if, for the sake of argument, he was a really good Deadpool in that tiny part of the movie that didn't suck.. Does he fit the bill like no one else possibly could? There are probably thousands of actors who could nail a part that requires mostly witty dialogue, and stuntwork that can be done with a mask on. He did the same exact thing here as he did in Blade Trinity, so I just don't see what's so special about him. He's so middle of the road, charming in a romantic comedy I guess but just another pretty boy in an action movie.
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i wanna see how many people i can scare the shit out of
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It really is terrible. Think Ghost Rider. About that level of dogshit.
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Apr 30, 2009 10:59:26 PM CDT
They should sell Adamantium bullets as you leave the theater.
by fanboy71
So you can forget the piece of shit you just spent two hours of your life watching.
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good on ya. In some ways I would love to read the AICN guys rip this movie, but like I said in my post above, don't throw any more money at this movie.
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Does that mean you saw the workprint? Or Emma Frost as a "disco ball" turn you off to this film entirely? I ask out of curiousity, not to play the whole AOTC/WOLVERINE WORK PRINT song again
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I'm not paying for this. I'm actually going to hold my ground. And fuck Gavin Hood and Tom Rothman.
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HIs review is right on. This movie was worthless.
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Did any of your editors go to the free screening, to a) meet the Swayne and b) see the movie ?
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... I am preparing a fairly detailed review of "Wolverine" -- which I'm assured Herc will have up on the site Friday.
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the third appears in both cuts and is lame first ending finds wolvie in japan, drinking at a bar second ending shows deadpool grabbing for his head and telling the audience....SHHHHHHHHH BOTH SUCK ASS
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How do you know it's a bad film? 'EEWWW! Fox didn't invite me, so I'm not going to see it!' Real mature. People are right about you, you only give good reviews to your buddies. How's the leather smell in the back of those limos that pick you up for your comp screenings.
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Name one.
Ryan Reynolds is one of the only bright spots in this film. The casting of him and Liev Schreiber are spot on. I used to feel the same way about Hugh as Wolverine. I still do in a way, but it gets harder and harder with each new X-flick.
I doubt we'll ever see a full-on trippy weird amoral crazy Deadpool flick with cancer-scarred Wade though. But Reynolds could do it and do it well.
As for the guy who keeps complaining about this Sabretooth and the one from the first X-movie...c'mon, man. The first one was obviously not the genuine article. Make up any backstory you like (clone, Skrull, wanna-be). It happens all the time in the funny books: it's called a ret-con or No Prize. -
Apr 30, 2009 11:12:13 PM CDT
How can a multi 100 million dollar project not have a good scrip
by dixieflyer
This is what I still don't get about Hollywood. How can you spend that much money on a project and not have a great story/script? Why can't they give a few million to the 5 best writers in the world and punch out a great story. It's like NASA launching a 300 million dollar mars rover mission and the lander is made out of those over sized fake legos.
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Apr 30, 2009 11:12:29 PM CDT
Jimbo Spice, you dumb fuck, Brian Singer loves comic Movies.
by ganymede3010
I love it when I get to expose ignorant motherfuckers like you wrong. Singer cared deeply about this franchise. Before shooting the first movie he went undercover to X-Men conventions posing as a fan, asking random fans what would be cool in a X-men movie. Also, Lauren Shuler-Donner is trying to get Brian Singer back to direct a comic book movie for Fox. Last but not least Singer is rumored to be directing a movie based on the comic book Freedom Formula. So fuck off you stupid little prick. And stop embarrassing taking what you read in Wikipedia as gospel.
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cool villain. screw the rest of these clowns.
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No way in hell.
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Than in the workprint? Only reason I would see it, cuz Gambit is the cat's meow.
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The Blob is kinda lame. I thought that Kevin Durand was a very strange choice for the role. Also, his power is never really used or explained in the movie.
There is a quick shot of him punching into a tank barrel which then fires. In the next shot he has bulked up a little bit, but it's a blink or you'll miss it gag.
Later on in the movie Logan has to fight him to gain some information and Will.I.AM tell's Logan that Dukes (the Blob's name in the movie) has a problem with eating too much and is sensitive about his size.
During the fight Logan calls him Bub, which Dukes hears as Blob and that is the only time that name is kinda used in that regard.
I thought it was lame and I also wondered wether or not people who are not aware of the comics and The Blob would even realise what his power was.
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This movie blows. The fights are lame. The effects are lame. The story is lame. Wolverine is, well, not lame but not nearly as cool as that opening scene in Xmen when he's fighting for money. THAT Wolverine was tough. This one's just sensitive.
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and the studio in question decides not to screen it for AICN - I choose to make it a DVD/Blu-Ray experience - and then, only if they send it to me. I do think it is funny that the producers and Hugh Jackman would cozy up to kiss my ass in a crisis situation, but then wouldn't so much as screen the film here. I had free seats for a screening tonight at midnight, but I have to get up at 9 am to see a movie that might be worth a shit, so I'll give WOLVERINE a pass.
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Check out the Rob Liefeld classic, X-Force #2. You'll see Deadpool talk about how he had his mouth wired shut for 2 months. I hate to say it, but the mouth shut thing makes sense sadly...the powers-absorbing thing doesn't, unless someone knows otherwise...
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badly, sadly
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Wolverine has always essentially been Clint Eastwood a la "Unforgiven;" a bitter, self-loathing older man with a violent, blood-stained past who did the wrong things for the right reasons (i.e. protecting those he loves, or those who can't defend themselves). My favorite single story from his comic shows him in a bar listening to a group of thugs recounting how they brutally murdered the family of a young girl, who watched in hiding as each member of her family died by their hands. By the end of their tale they notice Logan eyeballing them, and they ask him, threateningly, what his problem is. He tells them that he knew the family and had found the girl cowering in the home, who begged him to help. He then gets up from his seat and kills everyone in the bar and walks out without another word. To me that encapsulates who Wolverine is, and the movies not yet done him justice. The first X-Men hinted at this, and X2 got even closer, but I always thought that Hugh Jackman never quite got him.
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Seriously you guys threw a huge fit about the leaked movie and then post bootleg trailers all the time. otherwise love the site. now you don't give a fuck about the movie because you didn't get a fwee paaasss? boooo hoooo
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not to see it. i have no idea what was happening, but it looked stupid and cheap whatever it was. I got bad Matrix Reloaded CG fighting memories from that.
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Well, I never knew that, cheers for the info. Doesn't change how they messed with the other characters though.
Good name BTW, which reminds me that it really has been a long time since I rock and rolled.
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Seriously. You are a fucking Scumbag. Indy 4 rules!
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simple words: it sucked. I mean i watched a screening of the new star trek minutes before catching a screening of this movie and i'm not even gonna attempt to gauge how they compared to each other. it might have been that i was still high on what i saw in star trek that i might have taken some of this goodwill into wolverine. So it might actually blow more than i imagined.
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I hope you are reading your comments before you post them, because sometimes (like now) you come across as a seven year old who has just been told, that you have to make your bed and clean your room before you get any more lollies.
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Gambit is wasted and sounds like a reject from Varsity Blues. The video game cut-scene with he and Wolverine was better than anything the two did in the movie. His cards fly out of his hand instead of him tossing them. Michael Mann would be a good fit for the Wolvie franchise. This movie was too clean and pretty... needed some grit.
I think the fact that Harry isn't willing to throw down 10 bucks for a ticket (and the obligatory 50+ dollars for snacks, hehe) is a bigger slap in the face to Fox and the film as a whole, than a shit review. Don't give in Harry! -
i try to avoid all things Rob Liefeld at any cost, so i couldnt care less if they screwed him up (or Cable). but apparently someone else made him a cool character. All i remember is he carried a lot of poorly drawn guns and kinda looked like Spiderman.
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I'd rather sit through a marathon of Indy 4, Elektra, Ghost Rider, X-Men 3, Superman Returns, Howard the duck, Steel, and Spawn than watch this POS again. And that's saying a lot.
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Now it'll all be down to toy sales. Will the kiddiwinks want a sparkly Emma Frost more than they wanted a Speed Racer dolly last year? The suspense is killing me.BTW Alexandra, nice to see you finally got the black typeface!
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I really wanted to like it, (my girlfriend did, but she loves Hugh Jackman) but I was pretty disappointed. Action scenes were cheesy. Lots of unnecessary posturing. Minimum dialogue. Deadpool was wasted. The main thing was it lacked any real emotion. Instead of crying in the death scene, I actually farted. That's how much I cared. I'd give it a C+. Let's hope Star Trek's as good as the say.
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Is there anything redeemable about this film ?
How would you rate Jackman's performance ?
I am really amazed with the amount of stories, including origin stories for Wolverine, that they could screw this up so badly.
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I missed the reference. Did he do a massawyrm-worthy review or is he just an urban myth?
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this is actually my song. it's supposed to be cheesey but I could use the nerd support and i mean nerd as a compliment as i am obviously one. http://tinyurl.com/dctzhp
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You're dead on brother! Wolverine deserves to be played by someone who exudes a constant threat of deadly, horrific violence. Jackman's a good actor but just isn't "dangerous" enough. Plus he's too goddamn tall.
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Apr 30, 2009 11:53:32 PM CDT
JOSH SWANEY -- CUNT PUNCH #3,321.....BATTER UP!
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Basically, all you need to know about The Swane is that he bore himself 1,200 years ago today. Only punk motherfuckers need a +1 to push.
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I don't normally read his reviews but this one is right on the money.
http://tinyurl.com/djy82s
And Miyamoto_Musashi, I would say that Jackman was ok (same as before really, not feral enough for me), Reynolds was good in a limited role, Liev was great and Danny Huston was wasted.
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Check out the last TB in the Top 10.
He is definetely not likely any of us, he is on another level, he is more man than any of us could hope to be, but like Bale, he is real, not a myth. -
No matter how bad the reviews. You would be there to check out Wolverine had you not watched the workprint. No way in hell would you wait for DVD to check this out. If you couldn't catch it tonight, you would certainly catch it this weekend.Seriously, grow some balls and admit you watched the workprint. It won't surprise anyone here.
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so now harry's a reviewer who doesnt review movies if rotten tomatoes is at 40%. god forbid he has to pay for movies like the rest of us. no doubt he's too morally upright to review the leak (because that wouldnt be fair to the makers of the movie). not good form for a self proclaimed headgeek.
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Please see my previous post.
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She always give a good one. I will be standing my ground and not paying to see this mostly because of Fox and Rothman, but also because its not worth my time if its really pretty bad. It'll be on HBO in a year or so, good enough. But I also agree with DGDB that Harry probably would go see it this weekend like a normal person if it weren't for all the hubbub surrounding this, not because its below %40 on RottenTomatoes. I usually agree with HeadGeek on everything he posts, but that rings just slightly untrue to me.
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After Roger Ebert gave it 2 stars, it'd be interesting to read Harry and Massa's separate analysis of the troubled X-Men Origins : Wolverine film, in terms of what they reckon it did wrong and right.
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By not doing so simply because you didn't get a pass simply paints you as an in the pocket for hire person more than anything you have ever done. People accuse you of it, now prove them wrong. Pay your money like the rest of the world then come back here and give us what you think. I know a lot of people that come to this site who are dedicated to you and follow your opinion - I have never been one, but I do have some friends who feel you are on the up and up. You need to stop crying and do what you do or what you are supposed to do - review this film.
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oh dear lord... where to begin? poorly written, edited, directed, cast choices(except hugh of course!) almost everything was out of place, victor creed was not so bad, but the brothers thing was sucky, yea i know maybe some comics hint it but come on, and the scen ala spidey 3 near the end the ¨BACK TO BACK¨ like Harry to pete ¨HEY BUDDY BUUUDDY ¨the hole damn third act of that wreck...
oh and when you see what they did to Deadpool!!!!?!? he transformed into a superman mutant like, with swords as wolvies claws and shoots rays with his eyes like cyclops! WTF!!?!?!
they way they executed the hole weapon x and the experiment sucked.. oh and how he loses the memory OH DEAR LORD, because they shoot him in the end with adamantium bullets, at the end! WHAT?? Gambit?? he gets two scenes and that´s it. no chery, monamy, no accent. nothing. Will i am... REALLY??? WHY?! when blob was the blob was cool though.. anyways, how can fox continue to pull this off man? they started well with singers era, but that was a looooong time ago! f4?x3? yeah i know there is more crap too but ok.. sadly marvel will never get or want those franchises back from fox, and sony as they prolly make all their slate of movies from that money so... anyways, i still think hugh jackman is great, but in this movie i felt like wolvie was not into character, and well not really wolverine like..imo. The CGI?? messsssssy... oh and the first scene were he is a kid and clawes his fake father, talk about poor execution in a scene... -
May 01, 2009 12:03:55 AM CDT
DGDB - he is obviously worried about Fox lawsuits/blacklisting
by miyamoto_musashi
True the younger less Corporate Harry wouldn't have worried about that, but this one is way too worried to admit it.
Hope to be proved wrong, but think there is a better chance of Hood winning a Oscar for this, than Harry admitting it. -
I love ya big guy i really do, i love this site, but come on man, seriously, its getting very tiring and annoying with all the bitching on the movie, you know you hated the movie as soon as it was announced brett ratner was going to make x3, thats the bottom line, but saying you won't watch it till dvd, u either are a big ass liar...BIG.. or you watched the workprint, just spit it out, don't say you wont see it if really didnt watch the workprint, this combined with an actual post just to hate on the look of a character, its overkill, just say you didn't like it, its not fantastic four or anything, its better than x3, not as good as x1 or x2, don't go apeshit over something 6 months before you watch it, and continue it till actual movie is out and say you won't watch it cause u couldnt get in for free.....sorry for rant, i don't usually post unless its to get something off my chest lol...sorry, i really do think you are great, didnt mean the bitch part, love ya AINC
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Like the real news on PMSNBC? Grow up already.
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With the time, effort, and high standards of quality that they poured into Wolverine, just imagine what they have planned for "X-Men Origins: Magneto."
Maybe they'll then try to regain some credibility by throwing assloads of money at Halle Berry to do "X-Men Origins: Storm." She can be bought for the right price, as evidenced by "Catwoman" and "Swordfish."
Stick to your guns, Harry. Regardless of how many people call for you to review this one, just remember that those same people will not be able to give you back those 2 hours of your life that are gone forever. -
It could be G.I. Joe.
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whoever heard of a film reviewer that refused to review films? especially the type of movies he has built a reputation on? I guess its cool if he just doesnt want to support bad filmmakers, Its just kinda weird to get into some power play with Fox over free screenings. Shit, i dont care if you steal it. Dont support them for the right reasons.
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Did Harry ever say before this movie was released that it looked like crap? Or did Harry ever say before this film was released it looked great? Is there any previous post backing up ether one of those claims.
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Although the CGI claws did look like something out of Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Desmond, from LOST should play Wolverine....Thoughts?
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From the reviews I have read, its really about Fox controlling this property and what they are doing with it, think the actors aren't the most important concern at the moment, think Jackman was fine in X-Men 2.
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and lately they have been ripping me off with the shit they have been putting outFuck Yes I watched the WP...And FUCK YES it sucked ass, and I do not mean just the unfinished effects either...everything sucked ass. I saved myself $$$ by previewing this before deciding on paying to watch it on the big screen...and any smart person would do the same.Everyone should avoid opening night of any movie...DL a pirate copy (usually up somewhere within 48hrs)...and decide if it is worth paying your hard earned $$$ to watch it in the manner it was designed to be seen in. And yes..if it is good..I'll PAY to go see it in a theater.THIS is going to be my standard operating procedure from this point on....review online...pay if it is good, don't if it isn't. If enough people do it..and stop just taking your fucking from Hollywood...perhaps they'll learn a lesson and start making QUALITY films.
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And when they release that inevitably terrible Magneto film and the even fucking worse sounding X-Men: Year One we will have those fucking bastards to thank for it.
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Heroes running to freedom.Large doors open. Sinister villan stands in the way. Hero produces his weapon. Villan does the same, only bigger. A fight, villian dies with a slice, cutting him in two. He falls into an abyss.......Do you think the writers had just finished watcing episode 1 an though,..... noone will remember that Darth Maul chap.... fuck it...Lets coppy it scene for scene.
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That's what I thought when I first saw it. Shameless.
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WTF. They should have made the kid in the beginning DOG LOGAN and Sabretooth Sabretooth. Why mix and match. I realise they have to appeal to everyone but its the fans that make them the money. BRING ON DESMOND from LOST....He gets my vote
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Seems more like a tantrum than any sort of protest. And since when has any external scoring system been a basis for YOU to boycott a film. You owe it to us to see this regardless of any grievance you have with FOX. You let us down man.
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I agree with the two-star ratings I have been seeing. Wolverine has a very pre-Dark Knight sensibility to it. I bet the studio wishes they could start this production over again. There were a couple funny lines/moments scattered throughout the film but not nearly enough character development. This film can best be summarized by the THREE scenes of James/Logan/Wolverine looking up at the sky and screaming "NOOOOO!!" That's about as emotionally intense as it gets. Beyond that... lotsa fight scenes.
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"When a film drops below 40% on Rotten Tomatoes"
Didn't stop the AICN parade of good cheer for FANBOYS, did it? That film was a flop and has a 31% rating at RT. -
Harry Is a nice guy, but very gullible when it comes to reviewing cinema. When you've lost Harry Knowles (No relation to Beyonce) your movie doesn't stand a fucking chance.
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Never saw the leaked one. Don´t hate this Rothman dude (he did greenlight the first X-Men, a movie I waited for almost 15 years). Big fan of Lauren Donner (and Tom deSanto). X3 was great in parts, the flashback-Chuck-and-Mags, Kitty-vs-Juggs, super-powered-Mags and Madrox alone. Of course I rather see a Marvel production. But went to see the Wolvie movie anyway today (yesterday). It´s a geek magnet, yo. The Origin bit was kinda ok. You can see that Jackman understands and respects the character a great deal. Liev Schrieber was so bad-ass as the old Saber. Gambit was on the wrong movie, but was a kick-ass hero sidekick. Better than expected. The wrong and bad stuff, well, just ignore, man. If you want a great Wolvie, go watch the Wolverine Versus cartoons or read the current Old Man Logan. But the final battle was kinda cool, gotta admit. Team bros vs. Zombie Sylar = total frakin´ destruction. Well, congrats, producers. Now, I want to see a Marvel production of the New Mutants, written by Christopher Yost and Craig Kyle. With cameo galore of cool cats like X-23, the Joss Whedon´s Kitty, Lockheed, Jubes, the real and smoking hot Emma Frost as a teacher and so on. And a TV show of Peter David´s X-Factor. That would be super cool news indeed. Cheers.
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At least I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. I'm not a mad comic geek, and I think I read one comic featuring Deadpool in my life.
I rate this movie better than X3 (which was stupid in ways you didn't need to be a comic geek to get offended by. Like, where the fuck did the sun just go?)
And miles better than Superman Returns, which I tried to watch twice and it sent me to sleep both times.
And I think you have to give it up for Hugh for really doing his best with the material. I know I'll be in the 20% minority with that opinion. I suppose this must be what it's like to be a Republican right now. -
May 01, 2009 1:03:41 AM CDT
When you've lost Harry Knowles your movie doesn't stand a fuckin
by outlawsdelejos
Horseshit.
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I liked it. It was fun. Lots of nods to stuff that happened in the comic book. Bone claws suck. Harry's a twat for not wanting to see it. Like you couldn't afford some blu ray if you paid to see this. You're being an asshole. Do your fucking job and watch the movie. Nobody cares about you not seeing the movie and not reviewing it. That's just retarded.
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might see it later. My expectations are so low at this point it might suprise me. Im a comic fan, but i can put aside my comic geekness and accept changes if its a cool story. I dont need a perfect adaption. nah, it probably sucks
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You can't opt out of reviewing a movie just because you have a grudge against Tom Rothman, anymore than you should opt out of reviewing ANY film because you don't care for one the cast. It's childish and unprofessional. Other critics will review films out of their own pocket when studios decide against press screenings, so what makes you so special? For the record, I think Wolverine is the first true dud in the series. Flaws and all, I still enjoyed X3, and it was far more professionally assembled than this one. As others have said Harry, how can YOU know its a bad film unless you've seen it?
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make or fucking break anything.
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Just got back from the midnight showing of the movie. I am sorry to report that the film is very average, if that. I really loved the beginning of the film, thought the opening was great. As soon as Sabertooth killed his first victim, it just became a movie to fit every possible mutant in. Jackman and Leiv are good, some of the action scenes were nice, but it just didn't have the "umph" it needed.
Did anyone notice the terrible CGI when Wolverine was playing with his new claws in the bathroom?
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where my popcorn?
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As in Superman ? That scene where Wolverine meets Pa and Ma Kent was laughable, BAD.
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Genuinely Some of the effects and CGI were better in the workprint.
Also some ADR and dialogue replacements were changed for the worse.As to deadpool. I can see what they tried to do visually, i.e. make him look like the costiume without wearing a costume, (it became ultra apparent when his eyes shot lazers and the area around them turned black) But it's still a lame idea. -
I'm not going to bother putting money into this crap. I saw the workprint and realized even if they had done reshoots there they couldn't have changed the storyline. There's some stuff that it had going for it, and there's a lot of crap that pulls it down. Had they been reassured that it would be a two picture deal, I think it would have been so much better. They wouldn't have felt the need to throw every fucking possible mutant into it, and they would have actually given us what the title was suppose to be about i.e. the origins of Wolverine. If they made it a period piece between when he leaves his parents and maybe stop somewhere around the Civil War for the first movie, and then begin the movie at WWII to the present, it would have worked.
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Check out the old Capone thread! He's finally acknowledged us!
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FAIL. EPIC FAIL. Why can Fox not getting anything right. Why? Harry, I feel bad for ya.
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May 01, 2009 2:03:33 AM CDT
meh, pretty much what I was expecting, nothing more or less...
by darth scourge
Of course this movie takes massive liberties with the X-Men comic book canon, but then so do the other three X-Men films.
The X-Men film universe essentially just uses the comic book source material & continuity as a general inspiration and changes whatever elements it wishes to serve its own narrative purposes... much the same way most comic book to film adaptations do.
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movie was fucking all over the place. only shining spots were reynolds as deadpool and leiv as sabretooth was decent.
WTF @:
will.i.am's "acting"
sabretooths galloping
terrible portrayal of gambit
weapon XI/deadpool bullshit hybrid
cyclops being a sniveling pussy
horrendous special fx (ie. xavier, wolverine's claws, anything involving gambit)
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Okay, the good with the bad...
THE GOOD: Not much, unfortunately. The movie starts great with some paraphrased scenes straight out of the Origin comic. Cut to Wolverine and Sabertooth (brothers) running off together and fighting in virtually every war that comes along, from the civil war on up. Decent acting, good storytelling. Sabertooth turns into more and more of a scumbag so the brothers get into trouble and recruited into the Weapon X program. So far so good.
THE BAD: From that point forward, the movie turns to shit. We only see Weapon X working as a team once, and it's pretty ludicrous. Deadpool (Ryan Reynolds) does some flashy sword work cutting bullets out of the air (silly) and that's about it. We meet the characters for much too short of a time to develop any interest in them.
The later scenes with the Blob and Gambit were a joke and very uneven in their tone from the rest of the movie. Gambit has virtually no role in the movie and his actions make no sense and are never explained. He points Wolverine in the right direction and we pretty much never see him again. What a waste.
Deadpool as the super mutant Weapon XI was preposterous and ridiculous. Swords growing out of his arms???? So how can he bend his elbows when they're sheathed? Very lame. Their battle royale at the end of the movie? About 10 minutes of anticlimactic fluff. Cyclops and the diamond-skin teenybopper had about as much of a role as Colossus or the Sentinel in X2.
Overall, I give it 1 star for just failing miserably and producing a really uneven film...the tone and acting were all over the map. Jackman seemed genuinely invested in the character, but nothing new was brought to the table. He acted the same as ever throughout the whole movie. It added NOTHING to the character's development. Just a total bummer...probably THE biggest disappointment of the summer. -
Okay, the good with the bad...
THE GOOD: Not much, unfortunately. The movie starts great with some paraphrased scenes straight out of the Origin comic. Cut to Wolverine and Sabertooth (brothers) running off together and fighting in virtually every war that comes along, from the civil war on up. Decent acting, good storytelling. Sabertooth turns into more and more of a scumbag so the brothers get into trouble and recruited into the Weapon X program. So far so good.
THE BAD: From that point forward, the movie turns to shit. We only see Weapon X working as a team once, and it's pretty ludicrous. Deadpool (Ryan Reynolds) does some flashy sword work cutting bullets out of the air (silly) and that's about it. We meet the characters for much too short of a time to develop any interest in them.
The later scenes with the Blob and Gambit were a joke and very uneven in their tone from the rest of the movie. Gambit has virtually no role in the movie and his actions make no sense and are never explained. He points Wolverine in the right direction and we pretty much never see him again. What a waste.
Deadpool as the super mutant Weapon XI was preposterous and ridiculous. Swords growing out of his arms???? So how can he bend his elbows when they're sheathed? Very lame. Their battle royale at the end of the movie? About 10 minutes of anticlimactic fluff. Cyclops and the diamond-skin teenybopper had about as much of a role as Colossus or the Sentinel in X2.
Overall, I give it 1 star for just failing miserably and producing a really uneven film...the tone and acting were all over the map. Jackman seemed genuinely invested in the character, but nothing new was brought to the table. He acted the same as ever throughout the whole movie. It added NOTHING to the character's development. Just a total bummer...probably THE biggest disappointment of the summer. -
This was the exact opposite I was hoping for in a movie, especially a movie about Wolverine. Way to fuck it up Fox!! And yes, it is worse than X3.
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Can't remember his name - the guy who would always have us in stitches with his batshit reviews
Argh, that's gonna annoy me now!
Anyway, I've stated many times that Wolverine sucks big fat kahoona balls.
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. . . Fox knew this thing sucked. They knew this thing wasn't going to make much money - although they were/are hoping for a Ghost Rider type weekend - and to justify the bad return on investment to investors (who cos of the crunch are becoming antsy) leaked the the movie on purpose. The two reasons being:
1. Film sucked. They knew it. Bad return on investment. Instead of taking the blame, they could turn around and blame internet hacks for the poor box office sales and;
2. The leak would have the extra effect of forcing government to put in place more controls on internet downloads....much to the industries favour.
Thats what I heard anyway....I am available to talk on the moon landing being fake; how the royal family killed Diana; how Israel was responsible for 9-11; and why Mickey Mouse is a fetish master (he's a mouse - lives in a house, goofy is a dog (?) and lives in a house but Pluto is made to be chained up to live outside...hmmmm....why?) -
I am at work - typing fast so my boss can't see - I apologise for my grammar. My grandpa though is a jerk!
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I was so bored and sad seeing this movie, it gave me a freakin headache. this piece of **** wolverine doesn't even disguise itself as another attempt to create more spin off crap $ for Fox. The story is disjointed, pacing is slow, characters are lame, action is meh and Logan only has 2 faces - angry or angrier. Hugh 'jackass' Jackman should stick to dancing and singing roles, he just doesnt feel 'dangerous' enough. And wolverine getting romantic and carrying a woman in his ams walking off into the sunset ala "Gone with the Wind" - gimme a freakin' break! This is a lite version of X3 and just as bad as van helsing, maybe worse with the extra expectation.
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The movie was totally shit. It seemed very rushed. Why did he stop by the girl at the end? He "didn't know her". How does he even know how to walk or talk or anything if his memory got erased? Sabertooth never got his name in the movie. Deadpool, in my version after the credits, was still alive after being decapitated and shush'd the audience which totally ruined all of what Deadpool ever was. The merc with a mouth for all of 5 minutes. Gambit seemed a little too whiny. The blob fight was unnecessary. It started out strong, never explained how James got changed to Logan, why would an old guy give you his dead sons clothes and jacket? Bad CGI on his claws in the bathroom. I saw the claws shift but not his hands. Just an overall disappointment. I wish I could get my money back.
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I mean come on. I just got back from the movie and I really enjoyed it. It is 2nd in the series behind number 2. Anyone in here that is saying that it is as bad as x3 really has issues. The acting for the most part was great. Sabertooth was amazing which I was gladly surprised about and Jackman did a solid job like always. The deadpool thing could have been handled a little better but you still have to admit that the fighting on top of the silo was amazing. Stop falling into what I like to call TDK syndrom. You here all this buzz and no matter what you agree with it. TDK was extremely overrated and not even as good as begins. Wolverine is much better than critics are thinking. Just because you hate FOX doesnt mean you have to hate this movie for no good reason.
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It entertained me.
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the name Logan? In the wp we find out hes called James, then people just start calling him Logan 15 mins in no explanation...
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I think hey did some reshoots. Heres why. During the African mission Wade is wearing black vest and has a slick hairstyle. Then later, when the team are slaughtering the villagers he isnow witout his vest and as a curly hairdo. Continuity maybe but suspicious noneteless.
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Fucking solved.
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Not fucking solved.
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This was basically a bunch of action-movie cliches poorly strung together into a 100-minute cluster fuck. This series lost its soul after the second movie.
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...our copy of the film was terrible. 6 times during the course of the movie either the audio went out or the film went dark. We had the Deadpool clip at the end, and the film appeared to melt at the end, so I'm not even sure if we saw the whole thing.
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...How does a decapitated head "Shoosh" anyone? Did Stryker give Wade tiny little lungs in the back of his mouth? That was beyond silly.
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... is fine, but I want to know how he forced air through his teeth. It's a tiny logistical error, sure, but that bugged me nonetheless.
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First off, here's what's good:
1) Hugh does justice to the role that made him a star, he's just instantly recognizable as this character. 2) Liev puts in great work as Sabretooth. 3) ... that's it. There you go, I was fair. Now for the much-deserved bashing. Fairly soon after I had settled into the rhythm of this movie, I began forming this mental image of some fat-cat hollywood type (Rothman?) tapping a Cuban and barking orders over the shoulders of the film crew - effectively injecting giant cliches and cookie-cutter dialogue into an already ill-conceived project. To critique every single offensive thing about this cash cow would involve time I don't have, so here's the big three, people: 1) The dialogue/script is cliched and dumb. I counted three instances that had my friend Alex and I muffling our laughter with our hands. That helicopter scene brought back memories of THE A-TEAM. 2) The special effects were amazingly bad. Not quite sure how that got by quality control - and if there was such a thing. 3) The continuity between the films is SKRIZZOOD. In closing, it really feels like this movie was intended as nothing more than a parting shot at our wallets by Fox using an iconic character as bait. Fuck those motherfuckers. Save it for Star Trek, homies.
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hurm?
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It's an adaptation of a comic book character. C O M I C book.
I know that there are people here who read way to much into all that comic book crap but the whole genre is mass market pulp so wtf do you expect from a film which whole existence is derived from mass market pulp? I like the Dark Knight and Iron Man but those are the exceptions of a rule, not the standard. Wolverine pretty much is the standard so if you like to waste some time reading a comic book you might as well go see this movie. If you're expecting a life changing experience filled with philosophical gems and ground breaking imagery you will be disappointed. -
If you think comic books are incapable of "life changing experiences filled with philosophical gems and ground breaking imagery" then youre a goddamned idiot. Its a storytelling medium just like film, books, etc. and its capable of all the same things. I thought all you elitists died out decades ago. why are you on this site? have you ever been here before?
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I'm sure nobody here was expecting a transcendent experience from this movie, films such as TDK are certainly the exception in this genre. However, here we have a franchise that two movies ago was associated with great filmaking. Bryan Singer's films were great, the second better than the first. What I'm saying is that THIS MOVIE DIDN'T EVEN FUCKING TRY. An assault on intelligence earns the middle finger, no matter what type of picture you have.
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Explosions, fighting, colorful characters. You guys all need to relax and take yourselves a little less seriously.
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Just like he fucks everything with a hole in it.
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Then it's shit pure shit!!!!!! Now let me put on my Jar Jar Binks pajamas and cry myself to sleep...Some of these fuckers need to get laid...
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my new website...Harry you lost me...
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please take your 4chan memes back to that cesspool.
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eh writes tlakback posts and doesn't afraid of anything.
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all the records of the previews three xmen movies.
just check boxoffice.com
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Saw that coming from a hundred miles away. Sadly, it is more or less guarenteed to make a mint; but it won't be on my dime. I'm going to see Battle For Terra instead.
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still to confirm, but it seems that the COMPLETED Wolverine movie has also been leaked DVD quality. If it's true, I mean, wow. There's someone at Fox that really wants this movie to bomb.
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people need to relax and stop expecting Godfather II when they go see comic book movies. Dark Knight and Iron Man set the bar pretty high, so high, I'd say, that it's not reasonable to expect others to get quite that close. Just go have fun. The only blatant thing that stunk was how they handled Deadpool
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That means they are not "endings." They are post-credit teasers, and they are another legacy of craptastic Marvel superhero movies. The ending of a movie is the resolution of the plot BEFORE the credits roll. Just clarifying. I'm not really hating on you. If you are dumb enough to sit around for five to six minutes waiting for out-takes or some final joke, so be it. You were dumb enough to sit through the preceding 120 minutes, so you deserve whatever you get.
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Was won of the "winners" to an advanced screening that this site was pimping weeks ago. All the other winners were listed here as "+1", meaning they were permitted, I suppose, to take a guest. (Spread the misery.) Josh, it was assumed, was going alone.
For this, and this alone, I think, as I've never seen a "Josh Swaney" post in any Talkback, he's become a legend of sorts.
I think he's a hero, willing to be placed on the front-line, forced to see this shitty film AND endure Hugh Jackman's jazz-hands in person, for the rest of us so we didn't have to, all while protecting his friends by not inviting any of them along. -
rothman can laugh all he wants, I saw the movie for free and he'll never get a dime from me for this POS. Ironman shat all over this movie and it came out a year ago. the one pic we got last night looks mor einteresting a cool than any 1 frame of the workprint I saw.
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And Not to waste your time. The work print was ass and so is the finished film. no amount of re shoots or edits can save this film. It's just bad.
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Jesus, I'm not THAT fucking stupid, am I, asks the idiot who suspects he just may be.
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Box Office means all. EVERYONE uses it to justify / bolster their opinion. This is America. Only money really matters.
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Yeah, sure it does. Used to be, you could buy sneakers for five-a-pair and walk ten miles to school in them for an entire year and still have them all summer. Now, you pay seventy bucks just for the logo and your seams are busted on the first Thursday.
Tell me, Asimov, how capitalism works.
While you're at it, explain how you're gonna force the genie back in the bottle. After three, or so, decades of wretched movies making ever-more and more profit, Hollywood is not going to suddenly value quality over crap, even if the current movie-going generation were to magically develop something resembling good taste.
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had it beeen good they wouldve been fighting to get it out there for positive word of mouth.. Harry no bitching cause he disnt get a screening he just smells the stink
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I saw it the other night and the film was great. Perfect, No. But I dare you to point out the perfect X-Men movie, because there hasn't been one. Each movie has changed things, the question to ask yourself is if this movie's heart is in the right place. I'd have to say yes. I have would have easily sat down and watched it a second time and probably will. Harry is not supporting the movie because they didn't kiss his ass and let him pre-screen it. But I bet when it comes out on DVD it'll be in his list because FOX will be paying him to pimp it. Anyone who comes here should know one thing by now, it's that Harry's opinions are bought and paid for. He supported Van Helsing, and that movie was an ever-lovin turd of a film, but couldn't get behind Serenity; a movie that the love of fans begged for and their support got made. Stop listening to other people's opinions about these films and watch it for yourself.
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OK ok, so in X2 we see a flashback of wolverine covered in blood, had just killed dozens of soldiers from the weapon x project, and here the entire movie wolverine draws not one drop of blood from any victims??!! not one cut of arm, no blood on his claws? nothing...wow.
god this film is just another Xmen film it's not a WOLVERINE film!
this film should have been about WOLVERINE and his relationship with CREED and the weapon x program and correct me if I'm wrong here.....but wasn't the weapon x program and EXTENSIVE PROGRAM THAT LOGAN ENDURED???!!! didn't they USE HIM for missions as an assassin?
IT WAS FIVE MINUTE scene, and he stabs one soldier and gets away.
So much potential with wolverine to tell a tragic EPIC story spanning through time and showing him doing all the things that in time he comes to realize isn't who he really is.
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Name 3 DVD-quality screeners that leaked via internet of b.o. blockbusters wannabees: The Phantom Menace, Dragonball: Evolution and X-Men Wolverine: Origins. What do they all have in common? Fox distributes them. mmmm...
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not in Awards season releases, where the screeners abound. The 3 of them have been right before summer season, and the 3 of them potentially damaging given the low quality of the films.
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TDK was FAR from "overrated", in fact it did what EVERY FUCKING COMIC MOVIE SHOULD DO, create a solid STORY, with good WRITING, then wrap the hero shit around it. Wolverine was fucking GARBAGE, and the fact that you or anyone else is defending it, even slagging TDK to try and lift Wolverine up is fucking pathetic and the very reason we get shit like this, Daredevil, FF, FF2, etc. etc. instead of quality like Begins, TDK, Iron Man, etc. etfuckingcetera. Of course those who liked Wolverine probably liked Transformers, listen to Britney Spears (or (insert shitty studio produced shit band) here)). So in closing, die.
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It's a flawed film to be sure but comparing it to Spiderman 3 or Elecktra is just ridiculous. There are some pretty well-staged actions scenes and one very, very good scene with Reynolds that is truly awesome. Again, they hacked and diced the mythos but so did Singer so I really don't get the level of hatred for this flick.
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Nuff said.
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It simple. We've waited for a solo Wolverine effort for quite some time. It SHOULD be awesome. It SHOULD learn from previous examples of great comic flicks. It SHOULD have been handled with care and left to those who know what the fuck they are doing. Instead we get middle of the road, poorly constructed moldy Fox diarrhea. Is it the worst movie ever made? No. Is it what it SHOULD be? FUCK NO and THAT right there is why people are pissed because too many comic movies end up down this path.
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AGREED. While not the greatest Marvel movie, it is easily better then Daredevil, Hulk , Elektra, X-men 3, Spider-man 3 and Ghost Rider, when you think about it like that, it's actually closer to the top then bottom...
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It's also better then both the Fantastic Four movies and all 3 of the Blade movies...
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Since reading isn't your forte, you might want to check this movie out. I never said that comics aren't capable of "life changing experiences filled with philosophical gems and ground breaking imagery" I did say that you shouldn't expect such. Big difference. There are a gazillion issues of comics with nearly as many protagonists and villains and most of it is utter crap. Entertaining, yes but crap nevertheless. That is the standard, whether you like it or not. The gems are there but few and far between. Same goes for this flurry of super hero movies. They are made to make money and in return you get an hour and a half's worth of heroes, villains and explosions. Wolverine is right on par with that.
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Yes, when you really start to rank it among the truly utter shit that Marvel/DC films have put out, it does fare better than expected. I think what is really interesting is how many unique snowflakes online actually have a hive mind which in turn made them decide this film was going to suck before they saw a single minute of footage. When I look at some of the geek films that get masturbated to on these boards, the anger being leveled at Wolverine really does seem hypocritical. And while I like Harry, he can fuck off on this particular film considering he endorsed Daredevil, which really is one of the worst films I’ve ever sat through.
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Yeah I get the feeling a lot of the bile is coming from people that haven't seen the movie, so really I guess they should STFU, and stop being sheep.
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whats all this shit about something happening after the credits, anyone know what it is?
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seen the movie here in australia tonight. decided to see it to compare it to the workprint which i saw and hated.
i saw it with no expectations and by suprise i came out liking it a lot. seing it completed with the proper SFX, colour grading and proper cuts it was a well drawn out action movie with a decent plot. not great but pretty good.
it made more sense seeing it properly and i enjoyed it unfolding like seeing it for the first time because it looked more dynamic in the action sequences and the movie was properly colour graded to make it darker and grittier and the proper music helped it flow nicely.
The work print was like the deleted scenes on dvds. they dont look right. now we know its because the scenes that are chosen are worked on heavily to look good. thats why the workprint looks off, even in scenes with no SFX.
im suprised by the comments here on the site verging on hysteria and paranioa. anyone who likes it must be an agent of fox.
a lot of people are questioning the reality & plausibility of the movie when its a fucking comic book movie with a guy with bone claws for fuck sake.
its a MOVIE! it dont have to make sense in our world. this is the mutants world where this is what happens.
its about being drawn into the characters and this new world with these new rules and being carried along with a good story.
there are a lot of whinging guys on this site with vagina's who prefer a movie with a first class plot and drama over a macho adrenaline, testosterone fueled action movie which is examplified by the films superb opening sequence which sets the tone of the movie.
thats fine. they can go back and keep watching their atonements and sister hood of the traveling pants.
i'll keep watching my action movies and having good fun along the way. remember your childhood.
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so I'll be back later with a review from a long *long* time fan of Wolverine comics since the '80s and a partial fan of the Xmen movies (they were decent, but not altogether satisfying). And being a long time fan I have to say that even the Xmen movies got Wolverine only partially right. There were flashes of the real Wolverine in X2 (when Stryker attacked the school)and a bit in X3 (the fight in the forest). In X1 Wolverine's relationship with Rogue somewhat parallels his relationship with Jubilee. Anyway, there are postive reviews from comic geeks (who I trust more than the general reviewing public) that I don't think it's as bad as Harry or other people are claiming.
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There was potential here, and possibly a good, if not great, film somewhere between the early Benioff script and the final version. But they really did fuck it up: as others have said, too many characters, a pissant, nonsensical plot, bland Hollywood action-movie style, ETC. But what really pissed me off was the complete and utter abandonment of any sense of continuity between this and the first two films. I'm not a continuity whore just to have something to bitch about, but because I like being drawn into a believable, single, fully-realized world, which is not possible with Wolverine. And I HATE HATE HATE that they took a page from the George Lucas playbook, namely that all of the characters used to hang out before they met "for the first time" in the original films. Didn't we learn anything from the god-awful SW prequels? No? Not surprising, considering this is from 20th Century Fucks, and that bumbling twit Rothman. Guy thinks he's the incarnation of Alan Ladd Jr...not even close, Rothman, YOU PUSS! PUUUUUSSS! I mean, ROOOOTHMAAN!
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May 01, 2009 10:30:17 AM CDT
And by the way, I'm not paying to see this shit either!
by fa_tass_dinomolester
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Is how you do a Wolverine Origin film. Nuff said.
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May 01, 2009 11:11:45 AM CDT
Christian Bale: Terminator rant recording a violation of trust a
by thanos0145
Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/d22ev9
Filming crew=UNPROFESSIONAL
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Who gives a fuck about how the movie turns out. I am sure I will enjoy the action and I am not expecting some academy award winning moments. Just a good silly action movie.
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the xmen films were great in the sense that you could see many diff mutants on screen....but I've been waiting for wolverine to get HIS OWN FILM FOCUSED ON HIM....and I just got another xmen film.
man there was plenty of material there to show how VICTOR throughout the years begins to have a lust for blood and killing, and his relationship to wolverine wanting to move away from a life of war and killing,...and because of him wanting to leave that life and find something being a part of capturing logan with stryker and forcing him into the weapon x program and making him into a killing machine like his brother.....and after some assassin missions wolverines mind rejects the implants and he breaks free of weapon x at the end doestroying the facilities and hunting down every motherfuckr involved he can find before his mind is full wiped by the damage of the weapon x program, and the last thing is him getting on a plane to japan to track down the last guy.
theres plenty there, shit you could draw a number of story lines that FOCUSED on wolverine.
wolverine didn't even go berserker!
and wait he decides to throw team x away after this one mission but we don't see any other missions? we don't even see a build up of why this time he decides it's enough?
you know the best wolerine I've seen so far was in "HULK VS WOLVERINE" where he cuts mofo's in half, cuts arms off, he aint' effing around, leaving dozens of bodies all cut up in his wake. thats wolverine -
It's gonna get pushed off the front page by tomorrow. Something like this should be up til at least Monday or so.
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...apparently, the bar for enjoyable movies is very, very low for some of you. "Wolverine" checked its logic at the door at scene 1, and things just got sillier as the film progressed. Who actually thought that it would make sense for Wolverine to deflect Cyclops' optic blast with his claws without losing an inch of ground? The force of the blast was described in the first film as being powerful enough to punch a hole through a mountain, yet it's not strong enough to knock over a normal-sized man (albeit a man with metal on his bones)? Also, why would Stryker waste his incredibly valuable and amazingly rare meteor-metal on a person he knew he couldn't control? On that note, Why did the adamantium have to be applied over wolverine's entire body all at once? Also, how is it that the "magic" bullet caused brain tissue damage and subsequent memory loss yet the 600-foot fall from the cooling tower didn't squish his brain into jelly (causing permanent memory loss)? I'm barely scratching the surface here, folks. I saw this with my 17-year-old niece who loves big, dumb action flicks and even she was mumbling, "What the fuck?" under her breath.
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Opening credits montage. Hero walks away nonchalantly while fireball erupts behind him. Camera angle above hero's head as he unleashes his anguish with the nuanced line, "Nooooo!" Hero torn between who he 'wants' to be and what he 'really' is inside. Running, leaping and climbing that defies the laws of physics. Characters conveniently appearing out of nowhere at a crucial moment. Poorly-rendered CGI backdrops. Hero finds out something he thought was true was staged to manipulate him. Kind and friendly person shot ruthlessly and suddenly to break the silence (and the tedium.) Movie ending with aerial panorama pulling back from the ground. I'm sure there are many others. This whole movie was been there, done that, been there again...
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May 01, 2009 12:03:20 PM CDT
What the Hell are some of you guys talking about...
by wandering_prophet
"We've been waiting for years for a solo Wolverine movie" "Fans wanted a solo Wolverine movie" Open your eyes, as far as I can tell we've had 4 fucking Wolverine movies, speaking for myself I'm looking forward to a good X-MEN movie someday, if We're lucky without Wolverine altogether. The character is as played as played can get. If your reading the comics right now, Cyclops is 10x more interesting currently, focus a fucking movie on him.
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...After being asked by Silverfox why Stryker wanted him so badly, Wolverine responds plainly, "Because I'm the best at what I do," yet the only mission with Team X we see him attend he does pretty much nothing but complain. HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE FUCKING MAIN CHARACTER, AND HE DOES NO-DAMN-THING!!! Even the flaccid teleporter Kestrel did more than him, and all he did was point a gun at someone!
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It will rule.
a short hairy Wolverine! A Phoenix energy aura that is actually shaped like a bird! Shit, maybe even some superhero costumes!!??
HFS, maybe even a visionary director that has balls and love for the source material.
thad be nice.
They should just Introduce the rebooted Xmen in the end of the Avengers trilogy.
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what people mean by "solo wolverine" is a movie that soley focuses on him without a pot full of other mutants or mutant cameos. there was no development of his or anyone elses character in the movie.
I give you that wolverine was made the main protagonist in the x-men movies, and I'm all for a more balanced xmen flick.
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I quite enjoyed it, though I have to agree with other posters that it lacks emotion. Having said that, I would still prefer to watch this again over the travesty that was 'X3'.
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May 01, 2009 12:59:30 PM CDT
saw it, will see it again just to piss off fat complaining loser
by ironic_name
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May 01, 2009 1:01:35 PM CDT
cuz you're boycotting it. just like you did with transformers
by ironic_name
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May 01, 2009 1:04:13 PM CDT
good job tubby, they really were worried about your boycott
by ironic_name
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May 01, 2009 1:06:00 PM CDT
and comic deadpool is as funny as dane cook or carrot top
by ironic_name
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like you touching a woman's breast or doing a sit up.
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When Fox loses rights, maybe they'll find someone that actually knows what the fuck they're doing.
A guy can dream, can he not?
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Actually when I was touching your moms tits I noticed evidence that she had never breast fed. Perhaps this explains your inner torment. Alas, now I must eat chips and watch BSG, perhaps masturbate.
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Not that there's anything wrong with that. But fuuuuuck, he's a weak cunt.
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Saw this at midnight last night. And I admit my expectations were low. But I was shocked at how good it was. I went by the comic book store this morning only to end up in a long conversation with the owner (who was reluctant to see it at midnight) and another employee and they both were fond of it despite it's flaws. it's not a perfect movie. it's no piece of art. it's pure entertainment with sh*t blowing up left and right, people getting stabbed, stunts that make little to no sense, CGI that's just plain ugly, and lot's of cheap dialogue. I do think there's a good movie under there some where though. It's better than either Fantastic Four film, Spider Man 3 (which i liked), but it's no Iron Man or Spidey 2. But what do I know. I actually enjoyed X-men 3. I know that movie has flaws of it own (probably more than this movie). But in retrospect i think X-men 3 really just tried too hard. And they had a year to make it. And the first two films didn't have as much going on and focused on just a couple of the characters and in ways they never really captured that spirit of the team aspect that X-men 3 seemed to at least shoot for even if the mark was missed. Here the team is gone but once again I think they tried to hard. throwing in Gambit and Emma Frost seemed forced. The transformation of deadpool was just a bit too much (optic blasts? seriously) although the scene after the credits was awesome (he breaks the fourth wall!) The Xavier cameo (while sort of crappy looking) was pretty awesome. The story line seemed to jump around too much. look here they're fighting in wars. probably some good material there. nope, moving on. now there's this team x junk. wolverine and a bunch of other mutatns. this is going to be cool. nope, we're still getting to the main story. now he's a lumber jack in love with hot hot hottie. well at least she's easy on the eyes. nope, she's dead and we're moving on. ok he's back with stryker and getting revenge on victor. this will be a good little set up for an inevitable double cross at the end of the film... nope, he's just going to double cross him now. moving on. there's about twelve great ideas for a good movie in this one movie and we don't focus on one thing until after the first hour. but it's a fun ride. probably should have been made into like three films. one ending with team x break up and two ending with the adamantium process and so on. i know there's no way fox could or should have made three wolvie films. but that's the only way this story would have worked. it's no where near perfect. but it's no disaster either.
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May 01, 2009 5:01:46 PM CDT
so lot of reviewers write it was good, make ur own opinion folks
by muri71
dont listen to pussy harry, he just wants free tickets and then he writes good reviews about a movie like he already did for tarantino!;)
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WE NEED A REBOOT.
Keep Hugh(he deserves it, just WETA his height down to 5'6...I know, not comic canon, but shit, better than 6'3). He'll still be in okay shape in a few years.
Keep Liev? From what I've heard he and Hugh are the only ones actually okay in this.
No other mutants. None.
Plop him down into Japan...Mariko... Yakuza... maybe Sabes looking for him? Flashbacks to a more brutal Weapon X procedure? Blood, lots more Wolvie hair, spikes outta his body, etc...
Anything... just don't let Wolverine die with this movie.
Nolan rescued Batman from rubber nips and day-glo costumes. Any ideas who could bring Logan back from this cinematic fate? Let's stop bitching and work the problem, people! -
When does Marvel regain the rights to X-Men, FF, etc. so they can start making quality movies instead of shit. Marvel has to be pissed about what Fox is doing to their properties.
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There was some seriously inconsistent CGI in this movie. I can't believe they had so much trouble with his claws. They should have had that locked down on day one.
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I never once noticed the claw problem on all three X-Men movies.
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I thought it was supposed to suck? (I'm gonna read the talkback after I post so as not to have a contaminated opinion.) I never read the comics but did watch the TV cartoon. It seems like the story of this movie was mostly the same from what I can remember of Wolverine's backstory from that. And it was executed really well, so I don't understand the horrifying buzz this movie had. One thing I didn't like was that they had the manliness of Keamy (I think I'm calling Kevin Durand "Keamy" for life.) only on screen for like 3 seconds before they ruined his manliness and got rid of him. And Dom too. What was that? I feel like maybe there was a huge chunk that got cut in the beginning. But either way I still really enjoyed it. I thought Hugh and Liev were great together. Since we can't have Josh Holloway, that Gambit guy will do. I really liked all the fights. I mean I dunno, the effects didn't stink or anything. If it wasn't for the economic crisis I would see it again. Truth be told I think I like it better than Watchmen. In fact I think it's my favorite movie this year so far.
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So lame... Save your Money! Wait for it on cable in two months :)
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This was a kick in the groin! Wolverine has never been my favorite Marvel character but I was excited anyway. Hugh and Liev I thought did great but overall the movie was just terrible... I mean really really really terrible. The recent GREAT comic movies apparently haven't taught everyone how it should be done. What they did to Deadpool was criminal, Gambit was just retarded and had no business being in the movie in the first place, again Cyclops gets the shaft and I agree that the effects were very poor. The war sequence was the highligt of the film and just happened to be the credits... F-
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I can see that I was supposed to know who Deadpool is. And the Blob. I did not.
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He's officially famous enough to be obviously horrible now. 2 bad X-Films. Terrible Oscar host. Pee'd his own pants. Jackman is off the team.
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This film is entirely mediocre, but not anywhere near the abomination some were proclaiming. Sure, it really could have used a much more thoughtful script, and it pissed off a lot of comic fans with Deadpool's portrayal, but it wasn't that bad of a movie if you knew nothing about any of the characters beforehand.
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May 01, 2009 9:48:20 PM CDT
but it wasn't that bad of a movie if you knew nothing about any
by robotsinc.biz
I didn't and it was still mediocre!
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I'm sorry, fellow theater-goers, but I just couldn't help it. I haven't laughed that hard in a long time.
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You just don't yell at Wolverine and call him Jimmy 3 times and get away with it.
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May 01, 2009 10:18:27 PM CDT
Jimmy thought even the "secret endings" disappointed
by anything but tangerines
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May 01, 2009 10:18:55 PM CDT
Jimmy shouldn't have stayed thru the credits
by anything but tangerines
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May 01, 2009 11:22:00 PM CDT
I liked it for what it was, a FOX produced Marvel movie
by tylerdurden3395
Had zero expectations and I got a fun, dumb, summer movie, which is really all I wanted
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Best. Casting. Ever.
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Best. Casting. Ever.
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http://tinyurl.com/co27uc
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I'm not even going to try to put up a defense of any aspect of this film in an attempt to sound "fair and balanced", if you'll forgive the phrase. This thing stunk. Sure, it had laughable special effects, an incomprehensible lack of gore given the subject matter, three dramatic shots of Wolverine looking up at the overhead camera and quoting Darth Vader in Ep. 3 ("Nooooo" or "Arrrgh", not sure which), complete lack of motivation for Sabertooth (the shots of whom running on all fours were painfully hilarious)...but the kiss of death was the fact that it was BORING. And that is the ultimate pass/fail for a film. It was dull as shit. I wasn't bored in any of the other X-Men movies (including X3, which shows that I'm not a stuck up film snob), but this one was so full of stupid cliches and silly "wolverines howl at the moon" "emotional" scenes...wow. Just wow. Epic fail. Don't waste your money.
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That video game cinematic is what a Wolverine movie should be:
Blood, guts, impaling, holes get blown through body parts...
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After the credits one of the following brief scenes occur, depending on which "alternate version" you've sat miserably through:
1. Wolverine is seen drinking heavily at a bar and mutters, "I'm drinking to remember."
2. "Deadpool's" head spits "SHHHHHH" at you.
3. Edward Norton shows up, thanks Hugh Jackman, you know, "For making my shitty movie look a little better by comparison," and the two take off singing and dancing, as the camera pans to reveal an audience of gay-friendly Oscar celebrities oohing and ahhing. -
No soul, no personality, BUT things go BOOM real good and it's never boring.
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I was really hoping to see a lot of the original Frank Miller & Chris Claremont Wolverine mini-series. I think of the scenes in the trailer is almost stolen directly from a panel in that series.
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The one where he is in the bar in Japan? The ho in the bar is not very Japanese.
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Hugh was fine but there were a lot of poor casting choices and some truly awful special effects. A lot of potential here, but overall it was just passable. There was a good movie in there somewhere, but this wasn't it.
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Saw the film on opening night. I was absolutly pumped.
I was a little disappointed that they used up all of the war and childhood scenes in about 5 minutes. I mean, the scenes were great in themselves but they could've done a lot more with them.
They could've had all of that been at least the first twenty minutes of the movie.
When Wolvie gets his metal put in and he escapes, it only takes him about 3 kills 30 seconds to get out of the facility. What? They couldn't hire more than 3 extras for him to kill? Some security. Lock it down, my ass.
What happened to all of the people he slew in the comic?
Gavin Hood and the writer should've taken notes from the Weapon X - Barry Windsor Smith run.
There were quite a few missed opportunities here.
All of that aside. I enjoyed the movie a lot! Good action scenes. Awesome growling. Not enough scenes with Jackman and Schreiber.
All of the actor's were pretty much dead on.
Loved the scenes where Wolvie comes calling for Sabretooth after he finds out he killed Silver Fox.
It was a good film, but not great. I think if they treated the source material more seriously and stuck closer to the comic story line things would've been more cohesive.
A few things with Sabretooth weren't resolved properly or clearly enough.
I guess Deadpool isn't coming back for that spin off. What the heck? Wolvie chopped his head off! This doesn't make sense. Deadpool was alive and well with his own series after Weapon X. That's quite a liberty they took.
This movie definatly did not suck like everyone online says it did. I think it suffered from brash fast cut editing and a mediocre script.
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If I don't get a free ticket I'm not reviewing it either!
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Well, looks like the general public just proved Rothman correct, you can pretty much sell any piece of shit to stupid people. I was just over at Superhero Hype and according to their poll most people think Wolverine was between a 7 and a 10, which I find astounding. Well looks like we can all look forward to seeing giant turds like X-Men: First Class 1,2 and 3, X-Men Origins: Magneto (which should kick ass, but won't) and the Deadpool spinoff, which will also suck huge dirty balls. Yay.
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After an 88 mil weekend, and even though it will drop like a stone next week, Wolverine will leave a lasting impression on big action films. Sometime this month, a "bad" but full copy of Transformers 2 will be "accidentally" leaked out. Mark my words.
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mark my words
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even if it doesnt drop badly, i dont care it still sucks dick
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First of all, who cares about what the percentage is at Rotten Tomato's? And as mush as I like this site, who really cares about what is said here? This is all for entertainment and we all take ourselves a little too seriously sometimes. OK, most of the time. Is Wolverine the best movie ever made? Nope. Is it the best comic book movie ever made? No sir. What it is though is entertaining. The leads are all fantastic and the movie runs at a great clip. I have been reading X-Men comics for over 25 years and there is nothing in this movie that is so out of place that it made me lose faith in humanity. There are a lot of great scenes in this movie and they make up for a lot of the crap. Harry said he wasn't really interested in the Wolverine origin story but there was nowhere else for this movie to go. They had just spent the better part of three films trying to make everyone wonder why Wolvie has metal blades and why he can't remember his past. I thought those questions were answered nicely and a little better than they were in the half-asses Origins comic on which this is partly based. Personally I think Ryan Reynolds is a very good Deadpool and Taylor Kitsch was charismatic as Gambit. They would both do well with larger character arcs. Liev Schrieber was awesome as Sabretooth and Jackman was his normal terrific Wolverine. Do I like this version of Emma Frost? No, but it sucked in the comic too. They didn't make it up for the movie. If you count this as the 4th in the X-Men franchise then I would rank it second behind X-2. All in all, it was fun. Why does it have to be more than that?
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They're inclined to focus on the bad stuff in the movie, just because they didn't get invited to the press-screening and Harry is too cheap to pay for a ticket himself. I saw the movie yesterday - it's a a good movie! Not as good as X2 but better than X3, and it certainly playes its role as a tone-setting prequel better than any of the Star Wars movies did!
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I wish the 'smart marks' could leave the movie alone for just a second. Unfortunately, I read all the pre-hype from this site. Normally, I agree with most opinions from the contributors to the site. Thus, I was let down before I saw the movie. Nonetheless, my kids would not be deterred. We went and LOVED IT!!!! My 3 year old was immatating the Wolverine battle scenes. My 5 year old twin girls were fascinated. My teens were completely entertained(as were we). Which led to this undeniable fact. Todays kids don't really read comics. We did(we do)!!! This reboot of the franchises in marvel or dc are not for us its for them. So we can find them lacking(as did our parents opinion of our comic book reading material) or we can just accept that creativity of our day does not evolve as well as we would like into todays medium. There are exceptions to the rule(see Iron Man) but we should be thankful our kid will share our legacy. Didn't we just share Dragonball Z. Have some mercy!!!
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