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New TRANSFORMERS 2 Trailer leaks early on YouTube - looking cool!
Hey folks, Harry here... I'm incredibly curious about TRANSFORMERS 2. McG's comment yesterday about how he thinks he has a bigger cock than Michael Bay just kinda lined me up in Bay's corner... even though I love all the TERMINATOR SALVATION trailers - I've heard it has a few great action sequences, but isn't all that. But I am hearing much more positive things about the latest TRANSFORMERS film, from the very few folks I know that have seen it. Right from the get go, I can say from the trailers we've seen, the characters seem to be in clearer environments - and I like the international location feel that's happening this time. The Pyramids of Giza scenes, the forrest scenes... the robots really seem to pop and stand out from their backgrounds. Now. Let's see if the Transformers... good and bad... have more character development than in the first film. Anyway - here's the newest trailer. It will most likely be hitting in a very nice Glorious Quicktime soon, but for now - this is the best way to see it. Looks cool...
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That loosk rather MEH to me.
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...to see this trailer in glorious quicktime is to get a better look at Megan Fox's ass....
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Megan Fox is still freakin' hot
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whoopee...a popcorn movie with a tease of t and a...thrilled? not
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Other than I really can't tell a damn thing about it from the angle of the camera. Looking forward to seeing the movie though.
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Bay can't stop to linger on anything except a change to poke the camera right up Megan Fox's cooch. Jesus Christ.
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its bad to watch a leaked version of a workprint....but good to watch a leaked version of a trailer (and a bad vid at that) can someone please explain the dif? cuz to me...both are good....FUCK THE MAN...STEAL THIS MOVIE
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Still don't care.
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Anybody have a clue what this is gonna be attached to? Wolverine or Star Trek?
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Suspension of disbelief is all well and good but this goes too far. There is no such thing as a woman that sexy. Doesn't exist. Will never exist.
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That's why they'd rather see a robot piss then beat the shit out of John Connor. Even if McG fails, there's no fucking way on planet Earth Transformers 2 will be better then Terminator Salvation.
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Said it before. I'll say it again.
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short shorts :)
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That looked amazing. And whoever believed Micheal Bay when he claimed that this installment would be alot darker then the original, is fucking stupid. This will be a campy, superficial, and fun action flick.
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This looks pretty kick ass and I find it strange and unsettling that I'm excited to see this.
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If Bay can accuse McG of ripping off Transformers..
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you know, ancient, secret markings from another race. Would be, if the other race were *any other* aliens. But oversized toys? Don't work so well. Kind of ruins the Stargate-ish concept for me, unless it turns out that the markings aren't by Transformers, but by some more interesting aliens that then proceed to wipe out the stupid carbots.
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McG is right, Terminator 4 is going to bury this movie at the box office!
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So in the sequel, Shia is Chuck and his brain contains the Autobot Intersect?
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Apr 29, 2009 5:31:55 AM CDT
"I've heard it has a few great action sequences, but isn't all t
by amy chasing
If Terminator is "a few great action sequences, but isn't all that", I'm predicting that Transformers "isn't all that, but has a few great action sequences".
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The most fucking annoying thing I've ever seen. Shows up on every fucking page. It covers the boards at SHHH! and doesn't disappear. Holy fucking shit.
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..with the giant robots in T4, but Bay is ripping-off McG's show Chuck, with the implanted memory flashes??? This completely boggles the mind that Bay would have the blue balls to claim that he is being ripped-off, and with a straight face, at that, considering that he stole from Chuck?
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Dude needs to shut something called THE FUCK UP. Sit back, relax, make your bullshit, hack movies and realize how lucky you are that someone pays you to do that.
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The the big hit movies this summer that are genuinely good will be this one, Up and Star Trek! I have faith that this one will deliver in ways we were never expected. Naysayers prepare to eat your words!
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Looks good! Did I see some jaguar-shaped Robot sucking up sand??? What will them there F/X guys think up next??? Anyways, more of the same-just-BETTER. Sounds good. McG-yer toast.
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The world is seemingly only a couple of years old.
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Bay didn't invent giant robots yet he bitched about the Harvester. Get it?
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and a bag of chips?
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Not just sucking up sand but also one of the giant fucking robots! Cannot wait to see this in quicktime or somewhere where the images don't blur together.
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I'm not expecting much for a storyline in a Transformers movie - but is anyone else bloody tired of fucking symbols and magical ancient artifacts in hollywood films?? Seriously. There are sooo many other "plots" that you could use for a kick ass Transformers movie. Who are the people who write this crap? Stargate was the beginning of the end.
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I mean, really? Does the comparison even need to be made?
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Apr 29, 2009 6:03:33 AM CDT
Michael Bay And McG Accusing Each Other: Here Is The Link
by media messiah
The Michael Bay and McG fight is posted in detail at the link below. Cut and paste this link in your internet navigator...but take out any spaces that appear in the address, that is, for it to properly work, and send you to the page link without an error message appearing. Once you remove any space, or spaces, that appear in the address link, I have supplied, hit enter on your computer keyboard...and the address will take you to the story. BTW...it is real. Here is the address: http://scifiwire.com/2009/04/terminator-salvation-dire.php#more
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People much, much, richer than you or I.
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Oh well. At least we get to bitch on forums! YAY
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He is an executive producer on SUPERNATURAL.
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Did anyone read Ehren Krueger's original treatment for Transformers 2? I did. It's stumbling around the net.
Trust me, if you guys have a problem with Sam being involved by having an alien implant in his brain and drawing Cybertron symbols--you would've shit when you read Krueger's bullshit excuse for a sequel.
Sam & Miakela weren't even IN half the movie, driving cross-country to Vegas, Constructicons show up out of nowhere, the entire movie would've lasted an hour and a half--with a cliffhanger that doesn't take it anywhere.
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I really do... At best, I'd like to see an edited version with just the VFX scenes crammed together. I can't muster the strength to sit through the horrible staging, scenario and dialogue. The first one was an insult to movie-making, this one looks like more of the same, but bigger.
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Where the fuck is Harrison Ford and Karen Allen???
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It's like Orson Welles and Hitchcock in a pissing match! Sergio Leone and Akira K. eyeballin each other. This is as big as Scorcese and Spielberg....aww...forget it, what are they fighting for, the title of biggest hack directoe of all time. Fuck both of these douchebags. Yes, I am going to go see both movies, so they win.
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your typical Michael Bay piece of shit. You people who like this garbage have the attention span of gerbils, I bet you're all big Fast & Furious fans too huh?
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Hopefully it'll be a bit Chariots of the Gods-y.
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Where is my Megas XLR movie? With Tyler Labine as Coop and Jackie Earl Haley as Goat!
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"Mutt Williams and the Giant Robots from Space"
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I'm tired of briliant SFX mixed with crap script/dialogue. Now if only a film these days can get both right. The trailer looks great (cgi) but sounded (acted) awful.
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Will they explain how the cars get from California to Egypt? Because last time I checked, the bridge from America to Egypt was still in the planning phase.
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because it got a serious philosophy to it and the whole mad max atmosphere is a big turn on. i like movie that challenge our ways of thinking about what makes us human and explore the different layers that define us. but shit man im also excited about Transformers 2 so i can see all that pretty cgi and see all the cool action that i can never even imagine in my head. and the pyramid location is fucking awesome, i lived in egypt for quite some time and i can say that its the best location for giant fucking robots to get a good feel of scale.
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Damn you to hell.
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It is showbiz after all.
Also this Terminator 4 > Transformers 2 is wishful thinking. It could just as easily be that Transformers 2 is a fun robot action movie (and doesn't pretend to be anything else), while Terminator 4 is Terminator 3 pretending to be Terminator 2. I know which one I'd rather see. -
It's like watching an extreme close up of some smug fucker showing off with a Rubick's cube.
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What the hell did people expect after the first one.
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I think Michael Bay does deserve some credit, in the end, he's a businessman and manages to make studios gazillions of dollars, which is all the suits care about. The guy seems to have a retardedly big ego, but he must be aware that his movies have no creative and artistic merit and that they're basically just a cash cow, right?
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That explains a lot.
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I think the cars get to Egypt in the same way Giant Alien Robots came to earth.
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it was possible to make the same shitty movie twice, but here we go. "This is top secret, so you can't tell anyone -- even your mother." "This smells like $40,000 a year to me." Bumblebee dancing to "I'm So Excited" by the Pointer Sisters? I guess those of you that enjoyed the first one will love the hell out of this one...
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but what about Optimus and Bumblebee? Do they fly? Do they transform into giant meteors and careen their way across the sky? I bet there's a line like, "We're going on a road trip." and the next shot is of the cars weaving their way through Egyptian streets.
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Apr 29, 2009 6:36:26 AM CDT
I wonder how many girls gave Bay a BJ to be in this movie?
by judge briggs
Remember that way too hot scientist in the first movie? Talk about horrible casting. I would bet my savings that her ands Bay fucked before she got the role!
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Well if the news on the toys is any indication of the movie, there's a plane called Stratosphere which comes with a mini Optimus Prime... So I'm guessing the giant cargo plane brings them over.
By the way..The Wolverine Ad annoying as hell. If only they'd stick to their guns around here and put their money where their mouth is concerning Wolverine.
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autobots got shipped to egypt by cargo plan. i hear customs there is a bitch.
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Damn You Michael Bay
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Whee, more Shia/Fox action...oh, and the fucking codependent parents are back. And some NATIONAL TREASURE bullshit too, Whoop-dee-shit.
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South Park must do an ep. based on McG-robot on Bay-robot porn. Or something.
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Wolverine, Transformers 2 and Terminator Salvation.
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T4 will be amazing compared to TF2. All we can judge by is the past movies of these directors, especially as none of us has actually seen either movie. Thus, what is it exactly in McG's filmography that promises that T4 will be chocolate to TF2's shit? Seriously, because im not sure what the difference is between Bay and McG. Did any of you see the Charlie Angels movies? Please explain how they were better/different to Bay's stuff....
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confirmed that Frank Welker will be voicing soundwave? Or that they are trying to get Leonard Nimoy to voice the Fallen? Thoughts...?
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Transformers will pwn 2009
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Honestly, you fat fucks are some of the most joyless losers around.
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loud, guilty pleasure fun as the first. Lots of spectacle and action with stuff inbetween to fill the spaces between said spectacle and action. And man does Megan Fox look hot. I may have to see this movie in the cinema just to see her projected on a large screen...
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Apr 29, 2009 6:51:32 AM CDT
Are you kidding me Harry? The first 5 seconds of that trailer...
by mike_d
Dropped it -20000 points below the new terminator movie on the cool-o-meter.
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I skipped the first one and judging by the previews of both, I won't be missing much if I skip the next one as well.
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is like listening to two male models argue over who has ripped the others ideas off....
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Was devastator sucking something really big into it's mouth??? then spitting it out??? Michael Bay would know...
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argue over who has abused human rights more...
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Seriously? Just because someone doesn't like this movie, doesn't make him/her a "fat fuck." Conversely, just because someone DOES like this movie doesn't make them lowbrow.
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Harry finally realises what the rest of us knew the moment McG was hired.
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over whos the bigger fuck up....
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have you seen the news about Avatar at SD comicon, and Ridley Scott talking to Fox about an Alien prequal?
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comes on screen is awesome, and was the best thing about the original film.
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How's things man? Nope, haven't heard...what's happening?
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mitted in an interview that Ridley scott is negotiating doing an alien prequal, and that Avatar will have a big presence at the San Diego comic con in August
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And I have understood.
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Proctologist.
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.com they have scanned pictures from empire magazine of the Avatar set. Nothing too revealing, but what little you see looks very Aliens....
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I meant Dr. Bay.
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Let's see if the Transformers... good and bad... have more character development than in the first film.
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He better not fuck all these reboots and prequels and sequels and whatnot UP.
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I want to, but I have a blank spot where my enthusiasm for this project should be. I am old and and I had a couple of friends from Japan...I think it was Japan...in elementary school. They had these cool metal toys that transformed from...maybe cars...I don't remember...into robots. I thought those were fantastic. Then when the cartoon came out, I was older and it just didn't work for me. I was a Jonny Quest fan...old school Jonny..it is just too ridiculous for me now. I do like big cg robots...but there is no plot that I can buy into with this movie. ugh. And I can't call some "McG" or evem Micahel Bay...damn you.
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Sounds good, I actually picked up Empire for the Avatar article, nice interview with Cameron. Cool that footage will finally be seen, even cooler about Scott/Fox/Alien.
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I meant.."I can't call someone "McFreakin'G or even Michael Bay...Damn you!"
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so i ve been unable to track down a copy of the Empire mag. Anything interesting?
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include Petra in this (one of the sites was used in IJ & The Last Crusade, and I see another one in this trailer). How original.Wiki entry on Petra: http://tinyurl.com/2uum6x
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human characters to the detriment of the 'bots. The perspective should be from the robot's eyeline down toward the humans, not the other way around.
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Prime bites it.
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sure Primes gonna die in this one. So has anyone else heard about Frank Welker and Leonard Nimoy?
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First time i've picked up Empire in months, great issue, edited by Spielberg. Spielberg on Cameron: "Before we started Tintin Peter Jackson and I picked the brains of James Cameron. Avatar marks Jim's return to feature film-directing after 12 years and I am honored Jim is sharing his awe-inspiring visions in a world exclusive interview." Some cool pics of Jim, pluys lots of detailed explanation about Cameron's new Fusion 'stereo' cameras. Nice little plot synopsis: 'After a planetary mining operation meets resistance from the local aliens, ex-Marine Jake Sully is enlisted to join the Avatar programme - an initiative where volunteers project their consciousness into hybrid human-alien bodies, or avatars, to walk among the natives.'
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(Jennifer Connelly + Angelina Jolie)x Hugh Laurie = Megan Fox.
Am I the only vagina loving male in the world that thinks Hugh Laurie has nice eyes?.....
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From Empire: 'The third and final innovation in Cameron's Avatar arsenal is 'The Volume', a purpose-built performance-capture set and the largest of its kind. What makes this particualr set special though is the facility to visualise post-production effects, showing a rough approximation of the finished product in real time and allowing Cameron to direct the animation exactly as he would live action. It's an astonishing thing to witness and puts Avatar almost as close to sci-fi off-screen as on.'
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Sounds great. Its amazing how influential Avatar already is isnt it? (regardless of wether its good or not, or wether its a success or not) Its amazing the reaction other filmakers are having to it. Love how Ridly Scott (who mainly has nt done sci-fi in all these years because he has said thats its all been done before, that theres nothing original left to do in sci-fi) has been inspired to do sci-fi again because of the Avatar footage Cameron showed him.
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deceided to do Tintin based on the footage and tech Cameron showed them..
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Nothing signals that something is a teenage movie like clueless parents as comic relief. "Adults are dumb!" Can't we have Sam's dad be in on everything like the character was in the 'toons and comics?
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there was only one close up shot of Optimus with the faceplate on in Part 1, pathetic. We get you're not a good director Bay but for fucks sake, at least a few minutes with Optimus and the faceplate on. That'd be like Nolan only having Batman with the ears in wide shots. But Nolan is a better director than you, you damned cunt. The greatest robot of all time R2D2 had no problem emoting and he didn't even have a face.
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That's right, all the filmmakers that have visited Cameron have been blown away. I think we're in for a hell of a ride come December.
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Whats the bet they "tweak" the characters (because it worked so well for Deadpool) and make Optimus Prime die.. and get reborn as Ultra Magnus, it just seems like the kind of bullshit cop out that the studio would go for... Oh and there should be a Unicron tease at the end of the 2nd film.
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just wish i could be at the San diego comic con this year. Wonder what they will do?
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Curiosity, where are you from?
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I'm in Edinburgh, Scotland.
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Happens too. I am almost positive there will be some kind of tease towards Unicron. I expect the Fallen will send a signal or something to him (as apparantly the Fallen is a minion of Unicron according to wiki)...
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have been really cool. Though not too many of you guys here in Korea.
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the dinobots to appear on Tf3. Though how the fuck they will explain the dinobots in any way that makes sense is beyond me...Anyone got any ideas?
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... I care for least.
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interest, do you know about this unknown actor Matt Gerald thats been cast as the main Villain in Avatar?
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Michael Bay, McG and James Cameron
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If only we could get them ALL YEAR LONG.
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Havent heard of him. Just looked him up on IMDb and apparently he was the SWAT team leader in Terminator 3. I can't even remember a SWAT team being in that film!
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God people are stupid
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Everything else, not so much.
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at the cemetery. But i dont remember any specific swat member. Anyway, its just interestig because in the old scriptment its Col. Quaridich (played by Stephan Lang) thats the main villain. This character, who/whatever he is, is new to the script. Im just wondering what kind of character he is...Still wanting confirmation of wether michael Biehn is in the movie too...
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Optimus Prime borrows some dudes rocket pack, don't you know anything?
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What was wrong with it. they did it in beast wars. big fucking deal. and I love that these two guys are spending the talkback cutting the shit with each and everyone else is completly ignoring them. XDfuck, so much hate. do people here like ANYTHING? whatever. don't give as shit. this looks cool. loved the first. can't wait to see it.
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and then maybe hearing the bitching from angry fans for Bay to steer the second film .0000001 in the right direction? i still give the advantage to McG. it's still his first attempt at the terminator franchise and he's 200% closer to what a terminator movie should be than Bay was at getting transformers right the first time.
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there's that scene with him getting his but kicked and getting knocked to the ground and 'spitting out' some indeterminate chunk of rock or metal....well, that wouldn't happen if he wore his fucking FCAEPLATE when he goes into battle.
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you realize that the superbowl spot footage showed a scene that look like Prime's faceplate gets smashed off his face? By Megatron it looks like....
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I kind of like balls to the wall action flicks. As for the corny ass Bumble Bee part, grrr I can get past it with Megan Fox in lots of small and tight outfits.
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you see things completely out of context...Again...not defending Bay or his movies, just making a point.
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More so than a giant Toy Commercial with some Fox T&A
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They really have made Optimus kind of a pussy which does piss me off and they had better vindicate him in this one. Prime is like Chuck Norris only more bad ass.
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I'll be tweaking my nipples the whole time the movie is playing!
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His faceplate got knocked off via a kick from Megatron you dimwitt.
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the diff is that a trailer is free promotion and a ticket to see a movie costs money... retard.
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"I kind of like balls to the wall action flicks. As for the corny ass Bumble Bee part, grrr I can get past it with Megan Fox in lots of small and tight outfits."
It's thinking like this that makes me want to not visit this site anymore. There are hundreds of better "balls to the walls action flicks" out there and thousands of chicks hotter than Megan Fox who will actually show something on the internet. Do not support this Bay-retardation outbreak with your money. -
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Wants your point beside your surfing for porn online? Because SOOOO many great action flicks have come out in the last few years... Transformers are a either you get it out not, like X-Men, kind of shitty movies but the fans were happy to see them on the screen, period. When this movie proves to NOT have action I will agree until then. Whats your point saying "better action flicks" to one you haven't even seen?
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I was as cynical as these Anti-TF Movie fans in this talkback.
If your this unhappy and Cynical of this movie, I can only imagine what the rest of your life is like.
You are a bunch of Eeyore's.
"Ohhh nooo, another Michael Bay Movieeee, oh woahis me...Not enough action, not enough storyline, movie is too long, movie is too short. Movie is for dumb people who go to movies for the sake of having a good time."
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Pure cheesiness right from the start. That really made me wince. Megan Fox is hot and everything, but that's not enough to save this crapfest. I'm sure it will makes millions though and ensure we get more of the same. Sad.
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it was planted there.
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if you have one fo the most iconic aspects of a character and barely even show it, you don't know shit. Nolan had no problem having Batman dressed like Batman, he didn't limit Batman to one close up shot with the ears on the cowl. Because Nolan isn't a shitty director.
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Chuck? Of all the things Michael Bay could steal from, you think he's stealing from a mediocre show on the verge of cancellation? Um. No.
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just ask your mom... ZING!
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But, I admit, I will see this, cause I love Transformers so much. Here's hoping Bay learned from his mistakes from the first one. Less People, more robots with personality.
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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LAME!
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No "holy shit" moments in that trailer like there were in the trailers for the first movie. Ok, whats-her-name's screw-me ass stuck high in the air beckoning all grease-monkeys within a five-mile radius to come forward and fill her till goop squirts out her nose. But other than that...
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With an extra added pinch of corny. That is all.
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I hate Transformers. Worst movie ever made. This one looks even bigger and more retarded, if slightly less racist and offensive. Maybe this time the whole plot won't hinge on a giant robot staring into a tiny pair of spectacles to discover the location of the secret hidden base....jesus christ, I just typed that. I won't be paying for this. Mark my words.
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I was able to determine this movie will be shit.
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Why no story about Ridley Scott/Alien?
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Megan Fox, nor virtually any woman, is hot enough to legitimize buying a ticket to this sure-to-be-like-the-first-one-which-I-stupidly-paid-money-for-crapfest-filled-with-moronic-unfunny-attempts-at-jokes/dialogue/catchphrases-and-crumpled-up-aluminum-foil-trying-to-pass-it-self-off-as-action-scenes. I also resent the fact that some pro-Bayers try to make the argument that people who wish for more from this film license are either drooling fanboys or cynical cineaste elitists. I am neither, but I still know the TF franchise could be 1 trillion percent better in someone else's hands, making both the mouth-breathers and the "unhappy cynics" happy with the product ala Dark Knight.
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I realise there are a certain number of blockheads on this site who think it is a crime to be discerning about summer blockbusters. They justify their lack of taste with remarks such as 'hey, it's an action film, if you don't like it then f*** off and watch some Bergman'. The rest of us can allow ourselves some judgement. If we think, for example, that X2 is better than X3, or that Harry Potter 3/4/5 are better than Harry Potter 1/2, we try to work out why, and then we write it down. Not all of us go immediately to a 'Michael Bay is a talentless hack' setting. Personally, I thought Transformers 1 was a terrible film: because the story was unclear, the action was unclear and therefore unexciting, the McGuffin (that cube thing) was unconvincing, and none of the characters was at all memorable apart from the one played by Shia Labeouf. There was no drama, no sense in which the audience wondered what was going to happen next. Instead, it was like a circus show, where all one could admire was the accomplishment of the special effects. (In great effects sequences, you don't have time to admire - you're too excited: 'who is going to get eaten by the T-Rex?') Despite all the hyping, this film looks EXACTLY as bad as the first one. I will not be seeing it, and I predict that a bombast-weary audience will go in much larger numbers to Harry Potter and Star Trek - two films that do their utmost to give us characters we can care about.
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Let me end by asking: Did you see Team: America? Did you understand the kind of film-making that they were satirising? Did you hear the song about Michael Bay? AND YOU STILL WANT TO SEE THIS CRAP? If your answer is 'yes' to all the above, you are a sad victim of hype: you have lost the ability to make decisions based on your own judgement. Sad, sad, sad.
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I can see the script:
Enter robots
Terrible Dialogue and stupid jokes
Special effects/confusion
End with sequel possibilities
Laugh on way to bank
Repeat
It's not a movie to market anymore, it's a market that makes a movie. Sad.
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...than Harry Knowles' writing.
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You're 'incredibly curious' about this movie? What? What in the deeply unoriginal 'signs on ancient sites are actually from another world' plot (as seen in Crystal Skull, Alien vs Predator, Stargate etc etc etc) has got you 'curious'? What from the trailer indicates that this is in anyway a departure from the action sequences of the first film - bombast with no tension whatsoever? (Compare it, if you will, to the action sequences in Star Trek, or any action sequence where you actually care about the characters.)
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you are full of shit.
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...transforms into a giant TURD when projected onto a screen!
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So you think Matt and Trey don't fucking LOVE M. Bay films? Wrong. So fuck you judgmental summer action film hater. And your long-winded post about how much this film will suck is pretty pathetic. You think ANYONE gives a fuck that YOU won't be seeing it? No one cares. But you sure spend a lot of time going on and on about how shitty it is and how you won't be seeing it. Oh the sad irony of your life.
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...or is the talkback section of this website is regarded on par with furry kiddie porn sites by the rest of the internet? Visiting this site do nothing to shake that feeling.
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Pull my finger.
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Should anyone choose to acknowledge my previous post, I realized a couple errors. 1. Never get involved in a land war in Asia, and 2. Never get in an argument with someone that liked TF1. Both are hopeless battles. I apologize TF/Bay fans. I will just go back to my ivory tower filled with many leather bound books.
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in the theater or on dvd or BD. And you know it. Just like YOU ALL saw the 1st film (which btw was cool, funny and fun...fuck you). Your bitching and criticizing is utterly fucking meaningless bullshit.
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That wasn't his treatment. That was some other writers.
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if they think transformers 2 is shaping up to be a better film than terminator salvation. there is no comparison. transformers 2 is a joke. a joke with no punchline. and terminator is a punchline with no jokes. i like my sci-fi with a dose of realism and danger, and there is nothing like that in transformers 2. in case you all couldn't tell, that WAS THE LINKIN PARK song that opened the trailer. sounded a whole different from What I've Done, right? ugh... so bad. what a messy trailer. don't even try and tell me this trailer is better than star trek or terminator's trailers. those trailers make this look like a fucking joke.
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except when Shia, Megan and Turturro were onscreen.
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i'm not going to see this turd. except maybe to watch all your faces pretend not to be pissed off when you see the jarjar bots and the robot testies. and then i'll have the ultimate satisfaction of knowing you just got served a big steaming plate of crap by michael bay and you ate it with a fake smile.
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that stupid song that didn't fit in the trailer, yeah, that was linkin park. sounds soooo different from what i've done. wow, lots of original and exciting shit happening with this movie. fuck a transformer.
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...I still get chills hearing Peter Cullen voicing Prime. Good enough for me.
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Apr 29, 2009 10:28:12 AM CDT
I'LL BE WATCHING A GREAT MOVIE WITH GIANT ROBOTS THIS SUMMER
by bringingsexyback
It's called Terminator: Salvation. Praise be to Bale.
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Either complain about this movie
Or
Complain that their mommy didn't cut up their Porkchops correctly on their plate.
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh -
the first film was one of the worst films I've ever seen in my life
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It's giant robots fighting and Megan Fox. That's all Michael Bay sets out to show, and he achieves. Simple.
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Would explain why they are such a downer on this movie. Hopefully they'll cry and cut themselves into a deep sleep.
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Seriously, when Seth McFarlane runs out of ideas he needs to stop cutting away to this coiffed country fuck!
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Hey, when all you bloggers get your next multi-billion dollar franchise movie shot, let me know, ok?
Seriously. 2 action movies. That's it. Kids will love them. Big kids will love them. People who just want to relax and see some action will love them. And at the end of the day? All you negative jive talkers will be as broke as you were when you posted your lame comments. And whats with all the swearing? After awhile it's just white noise and makes you seem like you can't string a coherent sentence together. And comparing genitalia on message boards? That could be the saddest thing ever. Aside from telling Michael Bay to go f- himself 100 times. Hey, but good luck with all your movies coming out... -
Fuck the haters this movie is going to eviscerate box office. Can't fucking wait to see this on IMAX BITCHES!!
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Apr 29, 2009 10:41:37 AM CDT
DHAEMON, BVA - WHO'S STOPPING YOU FROM ENJOYING YOUR BOT MOVIE?
by bringingsexyback
Telling people to slit their wrists while trying to defend Michael Bay is unprofessional, to say the least. And I stress the word "trying".
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Yes, Terminator is going to be a really good movie. However, T4 doesn't bring anything new to cinema, ROTF does.
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Because any conversation is better than this one.
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Only Bale can restore balls to the box office. And He will. Praise Him.
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Even the power of Skank-Ho Megan Fox's ass won't get me to see this piece of shit in the theater. Enjoy "Revenge of the Stupidity" by yourselves.
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Pray tell?
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for a crappy youtube monkey cam trailer bootleg, that was pretty good.
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Apr 29, 2009 10:49:07 AM CDT
DOES SHIA SHRED A BIG FUCKING ROBOT WITH HIS BARE HANDS?
by bringingsexyback
No. But Bale does. Shia just runs like a girl.
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the action is okay the effects are solid, and Shia, as much as I can't fucking stand him, has some charisma. But, has has been said, the action is choppy and hard to follow, the robots are indistinguishable, the attempts at humor are idiotic. Also, John T's character is seriously one of the most lame and annoying characters of all time, for me he's up there with Jar Jar fuckin' Binks. That character doesn't get enough hate.
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Now now, there is no need to cry or slit your wrist over what I said.
Everything will be...O...K.
Tell you what, I'll invite you over for a BBQ. How could you like to have your Prokchops cut on your plate, something like the marks on your arm?
Awwwww snappppppppppppp
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Anyone seen the lost talkback?
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Prokchops....seriously? lol Since the Swine Flu has ruined Pork sales, maybe this could help out the retailers and farmers.
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Apr 29, 2009 10:57:21 AM CDT
The only positive thing to come out of the Transformer movies...
by rbatty024
is that John Tuturro gets a hefty paycheck for once. After years of hard work and dedication to his craft, it's nice to know he's being rewarded by slumming in a giant robot film.
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Hi there, Flesh, hope you're having a great day. Now then, I wrote that people like you justify their lack of taste with remarks such as 'hey, it's an action film, if you don't like it then f*** off and watch some Bergman'. OK. Your response to that was: 'fuck you judgmental summer action film hater'. You see, dude, THAT'S MY POINT! I love summer action movies. I just prefer GOOD summer action movies to bad ones. In your crazy world, expressing an opinion that Transformers is not as good as, say, Dark Knight, or Iron Man, or Spider-Man 2 - just EXPRESSING that opinion makes me a whiner who should be told to f*** off. Can't you see how crazy that is?
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I'm in.
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kinda dude
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Hi bva. Just want to say that I agree that writing insults about Michael Bay a thousand times is pretty boring. I can see how that annoys you. But your idea that only people who have made two summer blockbusters are fit to criticise Transformers is crazy. What, I need to launch fast-food empire before I can say whether I personally prefer Burger King or McDonalds?
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as for Fleshmachine and Dhaemon, well, not so much.
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you know it's true
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A while back, AICN reported on a Ridley Scott movie in development called STONES, which was about an ancient link between all the ancient monuments and ruins. At the time I thought is was a cool concept and still do.However, it looks as if TRANSFORMERS 2 beat them to the punch on that one.
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Apr 29, 2009 11:14:43 AM CDT
Sometimes I wonder when people complain about other complaining.
by rbatty024
whether those people have actually been on this site before. I understand their frustration to an extent. Sometimes I also find all of the negative comments distracting, but when that happens I just stop reading the site. Besides, if it wasn't for negativity no one would have anything to say on AICN.
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it was McG who challenged Mikey Bay to a dick measuring contest.
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Yay...
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After being burned by the last Transformers I'm not going to spend money watching a few bigger explosions and more shit jokes. Fuck Michael Bay.
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Someone have one? Paramont pulled this and I want to watch it. Please link. Pretty please. Comeon someone, cream and sugar?
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Or any of the likewise, are some of the stupidest arguments you could ever hear. If you say something like that, you must have the IQ of a garden gnome.
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Apr 29, 2009 11:23:24 AM CDT
you guys should see ryan reynolds deadpool interview...
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
he sounds very dissapointed...he knows they messed him up.
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Just a couple of years too late/most redundant post yet, that's all. ;)
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...the first Terminator had giant robots, so what the fuck is Bay on about, the 'tard!!??
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AAwwwwww Ssssnnnaaappp!!!
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you beat me to the TINO2!
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It's a movie based on a cartoon. Lighten up folks.
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Now he has to sleep in it. That's how the cookie goes.
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but if I ever made them public, I'd be slapped with a divorce suit.
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I wonder if this movie will have the cutting edge plot of the last movie, cool young hackers showing the man how it's done. FUCK MB!!
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I wasn't aware that hardcore hating on transformers was a right reserved for everyone else on AICN except me. Thanks for clearing that up. Original handle by the way ;)
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There's always room for more on the TINO! front. Join in!
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BSB, why do I get the feeling you might want to be in bed with him, too?
Kidding, dude!
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Yeah, it looks slick but I won't be seeing it until my 5 yr old grandson wants to watch it on DVD. This movie will make more money than the last. I've seen robots fight before. I've seen shit blow up real good before. The next 7 movies will all be the same. It's a shame when any new idea comes out of the asshole known as Hollywood, it is sent directly to DVD (although I admit most of those movies are poorly made due to lack of funding). This crap just depresses me. An evening with swine flu would be more exciting.
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ahhh, much better, moving on now.
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You know this!!
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Ryan looked so uber-hot in Amityville Horror I would've tied him to the bed and violated him like Michael Bay violates artistic sensibility.
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Apr 29, 2009 11:43:41 AM CDT
I do find the argument that since this is a big blockbuster...
by rbatty024
it is immune to criticism slightly amusing. Just because it is a blockbuster doesn't mean it gets a pass. There are both good and bad blockbusters.
Also, and I know that it is shocking, but some of us like watching both summer blockbusters and films by Luis Bunuel and Igmar Bergman. That doesn't mean I hold the blockbuster up to the standards of L'Age D'or, but it does mean that within the genre of action films I will judge Transformers to be either good or bad. In other words, it will be compared to films like Spiderman 2 or The Dark Knight. Likewise, I'm pretty happy that a giant robot didn't show up halfway through The Petite Charms of the Bourgeoisie, although it would have been less weird than other parts of that film. -
Please god let him not be.
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Transformers will rule the box office this summer. T4 will come in probably a close second if Harry Potter doesn't blow everything to fuck with all it's tween girls and 20-something male virgins cumming in their pants to see Daniel Radclif and his Equis penis.
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impassioned/semi-intelligent conversation has been sparked by comments like that, you better watch your ass buddy!
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I'll wait unitl after work for the Quicktime goodness.
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Finally, I can no be accepted into the AICN cool crowd who only like graphic indie action/horror/sci-fi movies with raping tenticles.
Because anything else is just soooo not cool and I must twitter and facebook my nerd displeasure while picking smegma out of my cok and see how far I can flick it in my bedroom.
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could have been improved upon simply by the addition of giant fighting robots.
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BIG GREENS ONES
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As the dude said, that's your opinion, man. It might be worth pointing out, though, that HARRY POTTER AND THE ORDER OF THE PHOENIX made $937m worldwide, whereas TRANSFORMERS made $700m. I'd be very surprised if fighting robots beat magic teenagers this time out. (That said, the Potter trailers have been hiding the fact that this one is pretty much a romantic comedy until the last act - I wonder if that will be a problem for audiences? My guess is not.) Oh, and if Star Trek is as good as everyone says, people might go to that too.
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with giant fucking robots or giant robots fucking or ANYTHING else would have been an improvement.
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make up your minds ;)
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with giant Nazi Robots could've been super tits!
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I forgot about the trekkies! Shit! Now I don't know which'll do better!
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"Let'em hate all they all they want - hate is a negative wasted energy. People who hate generally are miserable in their own lives. Life is way too short to have that negative emotion. And the wonderful thing - no matter how much they want to hate - I still love what I do!..... Besides, I'm the one with the 200 million dollar bank account!" ...... Bay then goes on to start HATE'N on Uwe Boll, a pissed off horror movie fan, some poor reporter from E!.com, Paramount, HD/DVD, some TF theme park ride,South park ,TF producers. (The 200 million $ bank account line is classy)..... http://tinyurl.com/crts de
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http://tinyurl.com/df8yly
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How many writers does it take to write a Transformers sequel? 1?...2?....nonononono think again It took 3 motherfucken slack-jawed retards to write this Stargate rip off bullshit.
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Thanks, that was awesome! Except for Optimus spitting a tooth, that kinda sucks.
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Still would have been pretentious shit, even with the addition of giant fighting robots.
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The Pointer Sisters in a trailer = suck.
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Apr 29, 2009 12:11:27 PM CDT
Apologist..... unite to form Apologator!!!!!
by trannyformers_apologist
This TB needs more people apologizing for the first movie! WHAAA what do you expect its based on a crappy toy commercial...
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAA WHA WHA WHAAAAAAAAAA -
the transformers 2 trailer was released with no music in it, so i wrote my own to it. check it out...
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LOL! Anyway, all you bitchy little talk-backers all know you're still going to see this movie. C'mon, the first one was pretty good, in my opinion. I think you all need to put the coffee and twinkies away, get off your butts, and get a real life. I mean, what's there to complain about?
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http://tinyurl.com/yqba qg
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Apr 29, 2009 12:18:35 PM CDT
The funny thing about the "what do you expect" argument...
by rbatty024
is that no one would make a similar defense of The Dark Knight. I would never say The Dark Knight was good because it was based off a comic and, well, what do you expect. No, I would argue that the film ruled because there was a great director behind the camera who knew what the fuck he was doing.
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http://tinyurl.com/db85 59
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http://tinyurl.com/dx6d9z
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http://tinyurl.com/c33v rh
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Explosions everywhere! This is easily a hundred times cooler than Armageddon... I swear to god!....You remember this kid from the first movie? This is Bay's view of the fan-geeks on these talkbacks. It's mine, too.
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No I'm not. I promise.
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"Now. Let's see if the Transformers... good and bad... have more character development than in the first film." .......Oh you mean farting and peeing ..right Harry? ..huh? More character development? What fucking CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT was there! AWWW poor Jazz..
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Says it open Arpil 29th. This film really is jinxed isn't it?
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Apr 29, 2009 12:42:04 PM CDT
What proof do you haters have that this movie will suck?
by ganymede3010
1)Best action Director in Hollywood(check)
2) Best special effects you'll ever see (check)
3) Peter Cullen (check)
4) Frank Welker as Soundwave(check)
5)Megan Fox (check)
Whoever is walking into the theater expecting to see shakesphere in a movie based on Toys should fucking do the world a favor STFU already. How many times do you have to say you're not going to see a movie. That would be equivalent to me spending countless hours posting about how I hate Hanna Montan's movie. The only reason you haters continue is because you know 99% of the movie going public disagrees with you. -
.. due to publicit.. I mean copyright claim. This has turned into a publicity stunt move now. It's so obvious. BUZZZZ!
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T4 will stay high until star trek (or vice versa due to which come first) then TF2 untill HP6. BUt then August comes I go go to see H2 and Inlourious Basterds!
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"NoNoNoNoNoNoNoNoNo, Speak english dude, Say hello to my MAMMY, You eye'n my piece Fifty cent?, We're here to ... climb this tree, LEFT CHEEK LEFT CHEEK LEFT CHEEK LEFT CHEEK LEFT CHEEK!, This is so much cooler than Armageddon, Whats crack'n lil bitches, E BAY, Where you masturbating? Sam's HAPPY TIME?, Touch my bush I'll kick your ass!, Criminals are HOT! I am Megatron, DRINK YOUR PRUNE JUICE GRANDMA!, Get off Grandma's CARPET!,
Stick the CCCUUUUBBBBBEEEE into my chest."..... awwww man that shit awesome!
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Dude, why do you channel so much energy towards something you hate? Are you that pathetic? Don't you have better use of your time? This movie will obliterate the box office, and the DVD/BLU-RAY sales will be off the charts. The public likes TF's, the only who hates it are undersexed outcasts who were proven wrong after the first movies monumental success. You were one of the mouthbreathers that hated it before you actually saw the first movie. So there's goes your logical objectivity. And please, don't critisize a movie you're not going to see.
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he didn't say it that many times. Only 3.
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Starscream: What art thou usurp'st this time of night. Together with that and warlike form, in which the Majesty of buried Cybertron did sometimes march? By Primus I charge thee to speak. GTFO what that shit you shameless motherfuckers. I don't want any of that shit in my action movies.
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Another lol! for the day.
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even though it wasn't action, Romeo + Juliet was great. but yes i agree.
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Exhibit A: 'TRANSFORMERS'. A very bad action film. Oh - God! - I just read your post again! You're using the whole 'if you are expecting Shakespeare you shouldn't watch it' argument. Dude, we've been through this. We don't expect Shakespeare. Or Proust. Or Dante. We just expect a good action film. Which the first film wasn't. By a long, long shot.
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is he?
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So this is a good movie because it 'will obliterate the box office'? By that criteria, my friend, if you liked TRANSFORMERS you must REALLY like SHREK THE THIRD, because in worldwide box office is made $90m more.
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but TF was fucking great!
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That would be AWESOME - Starscream is a Cybertronian theater major dropout! I CAN WORK WITH THIS! TRANSFORMERS 3 - a Baz Luhrmann joint.
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Apr 29, 2009 12:59:58 PM CDT
Mr. Gorilla, 700 million, plus 277 million in DVD sales.
by ganymede3010
You don't have shit but your worthless subjective opinion that's only shared by your co-inhabitants complaining with you at your latest Magic of the gathering party.
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This piece of amateur shit will make bank.
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Sorry for wording my post in a way that seemed to say, if you make a movie, then you can judge. I did not mean that at all. What I meant it, if you don't like it, great, say your piece, validate your point and move on. Don't just trash the movie, the director, the people that see it and lace the message board with profanity. I love swearing as much as the next person, but we are talking about Transformers. It does not claim to be an intense thriller with deep plots and character development. Something along the lines of Summer Thrill Ride (said in movie guy voice). That's all it is meant to be. My 5 year old son and I watched the teaser for the during the Super Bowl like 10 times. And that my friends is what it's about. Having fun and taking your kids OR yourself to the movies and just watching a good action flick.
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Or do you just sit in moms basement all day hating on Transformers? Is mom calling you up for some fresh macaroni and cheese?
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Apr 29, 2009 1:06:10 PM CDT
Don't worry kids! The official HD version of this hits tomorrow
by mr. nice gaius
THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!THE POWER OF BAY COMPELS YOU!
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You have no supporting evidence to back your subjective observation. You just said you weren't a fan of the Cartoon. So why should we give a fuck about what your baseless opinion is? Atleast the numbers back up my opinions, with discreding yours and the haters alike. Trust me come June 26th, records will be broken. You know why? Because people loved the first TF movie. Numbers don't lie MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA suck it haters.
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Apr 29, 2009 1:09:33 PM CDT
aicn only supports leaks when they feel like it
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
or something like that...
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Key-rist!! Arguing Term4 and Trans2 is like an argument comparing a novel and a pop up book. I have to admit, I'm getting a better feeling about Redemption with the footage in the latest trailer.
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Yes, I am a teacher. We have something called a "planning period" otherwise known as "Aint it Cool period."
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This may turn into one the Great Talk Back Battles of Our Time. Damn you Michael Bay for filling people with passion!
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You know it's bad for you, but you can't resist. It provides a momentary cheap high. But you feel ashamed with yourself afterwards, and go home to cry yourself to sleep for being taken in by its big, flashy, super tacky excesses. Bay knows what the people want - tits, explosions, toilet humour - and he gives it to them. what a man-whore of a director he is.I guarantee Cameron won't have a Na'vi warrior pissing on a human soldier from the trees just for a cheap laugh!And instead of Megan Fox's rack, we will see bare blue alien breasts! Bay and McG(imp) will hopefully retire in shame once they consume the fruits of Iron Jim's mighty loins!!
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I told my wife, "I need a break from damn art movies!" Transformers looks to be just what the doctor ordered!
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it's not a remake!
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ECM - yes, I gather indeed that Shrek The Third sucks, that was my point. GANYMEDE - yes you are right, all I have is my subjective opinion. What other kind of opinion do you expect me to have, you complete tool? PHOTOSUPERSTAR - are you saying that the people on this site who are 'haters' are all sad nerds who live with their mums, whereas the people who spend the same amount of time on this site defending Bay aren't? Oh, boy, are you a case!
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what's the point of hating on a live action cartoon which is based on a cartoon, based on a line of toys. You guys are sucking the fun out of what could be a purely enjoyable movie.
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If you want to make a sucsessful movie, be sure to have all your work approved by the AICN talkbacker by the name of *conspiracy*. He's a member of the 1% club. The 1% club without a doubt is your target demographic. If you please the 1% club, don't be dismayed that you're out of a job, homeless, since you fail to break even on your 100 million dollar investments. The only thing that matters is how your movie will impact his subjective tastes and expectations.
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...the top ten grossing films at the box office. (Because he doesn't believe in people's worthless subjective opinion.) That's TITANIC, RETURN OF THE KING, PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN 2, THE DARK KNIGHT, HARRY POTTER 1, PIRATES 3, POTTER 5, PHANTOM MENACE, THE TWO TOWERS and JURASSIC PARK. How interesting, Gany, that you think Two Towers is better than Fellowship of the Ring - according to your very worthwhile objective opinion. And how interesting that all of the above are better than Star Wars A New Hope, Jaws, Raiders, Spider-Man 2, Aliens, Die Hard, etc etc. Oh, and Shakespeare and Bergman. I'm off now - byeeee!
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I didn't know corpses could read!
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It's been a while. I see you're still taking it to the fanboys in the TF TBs. As you know, I actually enjoyed the first TF movie, despite months of bitching about it. I'll be there to see TF2 opening night. And no, I'm not saying this movie will be great- but sometimes you gotta get your action-nut off. Michael Bay is like the Jenna Jameson of explosion money-shots. Sign me up!
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it isn't okay to watch a pirated/stolen movie but yet okay to post previews that were either stolen or copied/bootlegged from a movie theatre. Always wondered why this site allows this. Stealing is stealing no matter if it is a full movie or preview. Someone care to explain this. Please.
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So it's really just free advertising. That's good for the movie.
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he should be kicked in the fucking nuts and peed on. just like Chris Rock said, if you're rich, you can't talk about poor people... if you are poor, of course you can talk shit about rich people!
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The Bourne Ultimatum, Knocked Up, American Ganster, Superbad, The Bucket List, No Country for Old Men, 3:10 to Yuma, Michael Clayton, There Will Be Blood, Smokin' Aces...not to mention many others.Point is box office take doesn't equal a great film. Each film I mentioned had aspects that were superior to Tf whether it was action, direction, dialogue, comedy or perfomance.I give props to Bay for one thing and thats pimping products in his film. He excels in that area.
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We have to many haters and not enough apologists;) You had valid reasons for bitching about the first one. However, It's gratifying to know that you at-least keep an open mind and spoke honestly about the movie after seeing it, instead of following the knuckle dragging nerf- herders who lived to hate it. You make an excellent point. MB is the Sultan of action porn, the lead up to the money shots may be hollow and monotnous, but the toe curling money shots do more then make up for the tedious dialogue. Michael Bay is the premeir ordiance manafactuer when it come to un-mitigated celluloid destruction. On another note, I'm still mystified by your opinion on Iron Man, has your opinion evolved any since the last exchange?
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I think the elephant in the room here is that the gross majority don't really care about Transformers. Not to be all negative but I think everyone is on CG burnout and unless there's a REALLY compelling story there...we just don't care anymore.
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they're like one long trailer. They keep the A.D.D. in check long enough to take your money, then when all is said and done you feel empty and ultimately unsatisfied.
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A V A T A RDecembernothing else matters
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Apr 29, 2009 1:48:35 PM CDT
Asimov, what other barometer can we use as a quantifier?
by ganymede3010
The only thing we can do is examine the facts. And the fact of the matter is more people like the TF's then those who hate it. And the numbers solidifies my point.
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That's why I'm able to sleep at night. I don't know how Gany does it.
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Apr 29, 2009 1:50:53 PM CDT
LET ME COUNT THE NUMBER OF TIMES I'VE HAD TO DEFEND BALE ...
by bringingsexyback
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Bay hypmotize me!
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The lonely stoner seems to free his mind at nightHe's all alone through the day and nightThe lonely loner seems to free his mind at night (at, at, at night)
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You'll still do a duet with the man even after he beats the living shit out of you.
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Look to a tentative October 2009 release date for THE ROAD.And let me be the first to say......welcome back, Memories-Of-Murder...
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Where u been?
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"You do it one more fucking time then I aint posting on this site if you're still not banned. You're a nice guy, but that don't fucking cut it when you're fucking around in this forum. Next time you fail to defend Bale I'm going trash your fucking lights" lol.
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and TINO TB's!
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was professional. Bal be praised you are seeing the light (in a manner of speaking).
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*Immolates self*
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Shezus fucking christ. If you're fucking nieve enough to expect more from a Transformers then what it was, you have serious fucking problems.
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where are the dedicated flame throwing trolls of yore?
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Cameo by John Bale Connor.
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I've been around but I'm not really feelin' AICN these days. Maybe the storm that's brewing between this summer's big flicks and the updates on a few others will change that.
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If i remember correctly... Everyones saying Fuck this movie and making with the jokes. And most of you will watch it so what's that say. At least the story will be entertaining and original. You can;t say that about the remake of the Nightmare film. Theres nothing wrong with TF2ROF. Nothing...
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Gotcha. Talkbacking can be exhausting. But the Lord Bale gives me a purpose to push on.
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Megatron: This the very coinage of your Allspark:
This bodiless creation ecstasy
Is very cunning in..(Starscream): My pulse, as yours, doth temperately keep time,
And makes as healthful music: it is not madness
That I have utter'd: bring me to Unicron,
And I the matter will re-word; which madness
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I blame blogging!
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Bay nailed Megan Fox and he Blows Shit up. Case closed!
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Apr 29, 2009 2:17:18 PM CDT
ASIMOVLIVES - YES, PROFESSIONALISM IS ITS OWN REWARD
by bringingsexyback
I hope others will share our faith in equal measure, because it would suck for them to burn in hell if they don't.
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A fucking toy movie that shows Giant fucking Robots kicking ass. That's what I wanted to see. That's what most of the fans wanted to see. And Bay delivered with flying colors. And please tell me, what did Bay do that insulted your unrivaled and exalted intelligence?
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The biggest talk backs usually surround big money-making films. Haters know they are going to be in line seeing it too. This is the internet. Little bitches get their place to cry because no body cares to listen to their crying in real life.
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I am a photography professor.
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i love you haters, i fucking love you to death! keep bitching peeps, when this movie cleans up and everyone you know in real life loves it, you still has teh internets to cry on, fucking losers.
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Shakespeare, Bay, hate, RotF, and mama's boys. AsimovLives is obviously that undersexed outcast who spouts the line "This is easily a hundred times cooler than Armageddon" guy. The Passion of the Transformers!
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I blame it on the alcohol!
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Apr 29, 2009 2:24:21 PM CDT
pissing robots, bad acting, little girl asks if robot is a tooth
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
no neighbors notices giant fucking robots in sams yard, camera too close during action scenes, optimus catching people with his feet while the scene tries to make it dramatic, ending that makes no sense...etc
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it's okay for me to see this movie and just enjoy it for what fun it is, and that he would not judge me for my having seen it, provided I see Terminator and Public Enemies. Which, needlessly to say, he didn't have to twist my arm about. All his movies, made and yet to be made, have my money.
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It's looking shit. It's looking so utterly fucking shit that if Bay just smeared his excrement across some blank film you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
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Honestly now, Who's mouth and ass is getting reemed with cock. Yeah, I just don't see that happening to Bay. McG looks like the type who enjoys cocks savaging his orifices. Hell he even wants to see Bay's cock, and he even mentioned Spartacus. All over some robot envy. He uses the whole size debate as an excuse. McG Loves The Cock. We need a Tshirt. Cause, it's true.
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Apr 29, 2009 2:30:46 PM CDT
I wish the haters would tell us what some good "popcorn" flicks
by bigbaldpapa
I want to know. Transformers movies are not cerebral experiences. They are not character dramas. They are not works of art. THEY ARE FUN!! If you are unable to relax for 2 hours and have some fun with a movie then I feel sorry for your sour asses. You are obvisously taking entertainment far too seriously.
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Apr 29, 2009 2:31:43 PM CDT
Harry Ford's agent must get SideshowCollectibles on the horn ASA
by azultool
I just can't get over how old that Indy doll looks. It looks like Methuselah got dressed up for WonderCon.
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Gany, funny you should mention IRON MAN. To be honest, I have had no desire to watch it again since I saw it in the theaters. I guess it didn't leave a lasting impression with me. I don't hate the flick, I just don't LOVE it hardcore, that's for sure. -
You haven't given one silly example of how your intellience was insulted. Please, I really want to hear this.
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"The laziest man I ever met put popcorn in his pancakes so they would turn over by themselves." W.C. Fields
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I fell asleep during the 3rd act. How can a movie with so many 'splosions be so boring?
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The Haters for this film are such sad fucks. They will al go out and see it. They will buy the action figures as well. Bay should set a hidden camera up at Toys'R'Us to show all the 30-40 something buying his toys. Have the cashier ask them what they thought of the film, and watch them bitch about it while they buy the toys. Saying oh these toys aren't for me. They for my newphew. Then their mom comes in and tells them to get 20 bucks from the cash back option on her credit card... Hahahahaha. Sorry ass fucks.
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I could have sworn that was actually a sculpt of Andy Rooney doing Indiana Jones cosplay.
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You refuse to see the movie but you cannot help yourself from entering a talkback about it? Is it the attention you crave? Maybe I am just fucking stupid but when I see an article posted here about something I don't care about I don't fucking click on it. Seriously. Do you just click on this shit for the sole purpose of whining?
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"Hey, Bing, bing, bing, bang, popcorn" Dan Aykroyd
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Heehee. Andyrooney Jones.
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It's two days before and no review? I say no news is bad news in this case.
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I'm still feverishly searching for any bit of information that can validate your erroneous conclusions. I've provided un-impeachable evidence to support my opinion. You haven't provided nothing besides nerdgasm tears.. QQ
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Actually, I thouroughly enjoyed all of those movies you posted. So I proved you wrong again, since you said I have bad taste when it comes to film. You can't win man, give it up:)
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It was a bad movie, by pretty much any account. Cool special effects by themselves do not make a good movie. And if you think that everyone who didn't care for the first film is going to compulsively buy all the merchandise for the sequel, you really need to get out more.
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I scanned that headline to quickly, only words I seen was NEW TRANSFORMERS 2 LEAKS EARLY, was holding my Dvd copy of wolverine pondering "should I do it, saved me the price of a ticket on this turd" damn realisation
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Apr 29, 2009 2:50:59 PM CDT
wolverine is at 40 percent on rt
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
hahahahahahaha i dont care what critics say but i hope tom rothman dies hahahhaha
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and it definitely wasnt a good movie
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Goes down easier than Wolverine and almost as funny!
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Don't you hold the dubious distinction of being the only TRANSFORMERS fan who also happened to get banned from Michael Bay's website?How did ya manage that one?!
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STARSCREAM: You think that I'm some cyber-babe, fresh off the Space Bridge, and you can kick me! But I'm too big for that now. I'm sick a' takin the scrap from you, Megatron. I'm ain't marching into this goddamn office to kiss your Decepti-ass. And I'M SICK A' THE HIGH HAT! Youse fancy-bots, all a youse.
MEGATRON: Starscream, you're exactly as big as I let you be, and no bigger, and don't forget it, ever.
STARSCREAM: That's right, Megs. You're the big shot around here, and I'm just some schnook likes to get slapped around. -
Apr 29, 2009 3:02:24 PM CDT
Wait, I'm not a movie geek because I don't agree with u?
by ganymede3010
Holy fucking cow. You are really full of yourself Asimov. I'll guarantee you that we would actually agree on more movies then not. TF's is my favorite guilty pleasure, that's why I'm compelled to defend it so voiciferously. You on the other hand, haven't given one solid reason on why you hate TF outside of your ad hominem attacks.
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...TRANSFORMERS was better than INDY 4. How is it that everybody's favorite whipping boy, Michael Bay managed to outshine a cinematic great like Steven Spielberg? It must be the power of "Awesome!".Make no mistake, this sequel is going to be huge. Maybe it's not everyone's cup of tea but there are people who genuinely enjoyed it. And yes, they will be coming back for another helping of BIG GIANT ROBOTS!©Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for someone to tell me why EVIL DEAD is such a great popcorn/guilty pleasure-type flick. Personally, I think it's a piece of shit. Go figure.
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...how can you all bicker about a movie when we're being systematically killed by the deliciously dangerous pig population.
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... If the first person who contracted swine flu got it from unprotected sex with a pig.
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EXAMPLE 1
great year for movies!
by damned Apr 29th, 2009
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Wolverine, Transformers 2 and Terminator Salvation.
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Is this not a lame attempt to lump Woverine in with 2 really big summer movies????
On another note Shrek 3 was not horrible. Shrek 2 was god awful. Nothing but inside jokes that almost all fell flat. Think of the worst episode of family guy ever, and that was shrek 2. It was unwatchable. Shrek 3 was more of a return to form. It had a story with a begining, middle, and end. Maybe not the best story ever, but far from unwatchable. -
That goes to show you how anal retentive Nelson is when it comes to supporting his action-porn overlord. He banned me because I eviscerated his ass on Don Murphy's message board. I fucking despise that asshat. When did you get banned lol? 2007 I assume?
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Why is it that Bayformers makes te U.S. Military look stupid? Does the miliary have those billion $$ radar/satellites to DETECT objects in the sky that are heading their way??? Looks like nothing changed. The designs for the robots looks shitty and I bet there is less of a storyline than the first. I can't wait to see which robot piss on a human this time. This movie has my interest as DISASTER MOVIE did, which was -100%.
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Bruce. Campbell. Hail to the King, baby!
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"Fuckin' A+"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTihsJQHt48
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THAT was entertainment, got ALL the TBer's united against them.
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I noticed something about TDK. Now, I was on meds last time I watched it, flu of course, but the dialogue didn't seem conversational. It felt and sounded like nothing but statements to me, weird but that's how it came across. Anybody else pick up on that?
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First of all. The only way a movie can generate 700 million in the boxoffice is through.....drum-roll..*word of mouth* and *multiple viewings*. The movie kicked ass for 5 straight months in the boxoffice. How many movies can do that? Sorry Asimov, but only good movies can sustain that level of success during a 5 month duration. Also, it broke a myriad of DVD sales records. I can't recall any "bad" movie that could achieve that level of success.
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Ha! Nelson! Actually, I don't recall, it might have been there. But that was back when I was looking for scoop on the movie before it came out.BTW - those Transformers fan-forums are RI-COCK-ULOUS. They make STAR WARS fans look...normal.And no bannings for me; I was never a member to begin with.
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Hell naw, I ain't got nothin' against the King, baby.
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Yes. You reminded us of that many times while going under your former name, Memories-Of-Murder.
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http://tinyurl.com/39gcb z ... remove space
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Dog. I gots to chill with my bitches in college. Don't Cry B! You'll make me CRY.
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This time they're going to have a robot take a full-on shit on somebody! It's going to be awesome!
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and you got me my first fuck. I love you B.
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Nice to read an AICN TB and find Mr. Nice Gaius posting again after a hiatus. For a moment I thought you'd gone the way of Superninja.You are right. Transformers 2 is going to be the movie of the summer.BTW missed your remarks on the BSG finale.
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Gany, BSB, MNG, NuHubris... I feel like its 2007 all over again.
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What do you expect from grown men who collect an astonomical amount of the toys?
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The first one was so bad Bernie Mac died of shame.
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It's still light years ahead of Van Helsing's Stephan Summer's UN Joe.
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Where are you hiding you little dip shit? I'm done sinking my fangs into yet;) Oh, and we're missing Rickey Henderson and Messi too!
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search your soul, you know its true!All this talk of B.O. money compels me to state that. I'd rather like to think that the Legend of 1900 took place on the Titanic. Denial can be a great place to spend your time.
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Motherfucking Hack supposedly gave Mega Fox what was no doubt a full on gonzo Max Hardcore session during casting. Cuz lets be honest...sex with that trailer trash barbie...full on gaging and gaping. And besides..no harm casting such an unknown, you are Bay...it isn't like you require actors that can, ya know, act.
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was some good TB.As MNG said, all the big movies could ramp up TB in 2009.I look forward to reading your posts.
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Have u ever been stuck in traffic for an hour only to find out later that the mouthbreathers infornt of you were rubber necking the entire time, at an accident that occured on the oppossite side of the freeway? That's why Titanic made the money it did. People wanted to see with their own eyes the ultimate accident as it unfolded.
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A Falling Down style movie! All the waiting makes people snap the fuck out! Killing and carnage and ass fisting!
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I can't wait to jerk off to Arcee and her 2 sisters!!! Haw, haw, haw!!!!
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it would be cool to fuck megan fox in bumblebee car. its not a threesome but its convoluted.
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McG or M.Bay?
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You're exactly right about The Dark Knight dialogue, it's all statements, not conversation. It's crappy and really lets down the first rate filmmaking involved. Well spotted.
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his style fits perfectly with traditional stargate shows so it makes sense for him to do an SG-1 movie
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have u ever made a movie? i guess ur the DOUCHE BAG
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so was watchmen
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Totally agree. The only summer movies i'm looking forward to are Public Enemies and The Hurt Locker.
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You're not wrong.
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... I'm willing to sit through an hour or more retarded dialog and cheesy plot for the 5 to 10 minutes of spectacle. Giant robots fighting other giant robots is all I'm looking for here.
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Those grievences equate to less then 3 minutes sceen time out of a movie that was 210 minutes long. Cry more QQ.
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Apr 29, 2009 4:46:21 PM CDT
Hey WALRUSHOLDER....if McG = Big Mac and Bay = WHOPPER....
by gruemanlives
does that make Brett Ratner a junior bacon cheeseburger?
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Apr 29, 2009 4:46:26 PM CDT
Hey WALRUSHOLDER....if McG = Big Mac and Bay = WHOPPER....
by gruemanlives
does that make Brett Ratner a junior bacon cheeseburger?
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he's the spit the highschooler left on your whopper!
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Cause there's no way am I making any effort to see either in the theaters.Bay and Ledoufus can suck it.
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toy movies suck.
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And so is Megan Fox. C'mon you wanna watch this. Terminator Fore--hey you have Bats, Big Robots, sky-cycles and big explosions. What's not to like their, either? I'll see both.
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The Giant Robots Friend!! always good to see the Yack. AND MrGeyser--is your pal Mammaries of Mommy here again? A sad, sad day to think--they STILL spell Moron w/ 4 M's in Manaus--
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I lost my messi password but man the 2006/2007 Transformers talkbacks were classic.
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too serious, total bum poster.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
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So making a movie suddenly makes someone not a douche bag?
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with short history. People come and go to often.
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For that matter, I don't like most action movies, either. Guess I'm an outsider.
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Yeah, we need Phate and Rickey and we're up and running bigtime. Any peep from superninja since 2007?
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reference almost every time he posted. The subject could be Bollywood musicals and he would slip GAYFORMERS! in.
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isn't it kinda ..well fucking perverted...that the Shita Character is fucking his trailer whore inside a sentient being? Does the robot like the voyeristic aspects of it? Does he get pissed when whats his name earns his red wings and the FOx character gets her menses all over his seats? Does he tell Sam to at least hand a new air freshener to get the smell of skank juice out of his vents? Or perhaps the Fox character gives BB a reverse cowboy ride on his gearshift? Just curious how this is supposed to work is all..
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they are better than you, and they have the power to take away ur girlfriend/wife/kids anytime they feel like it.
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if it werent for Michael Bay. DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY! that pussy deserved a cumshot!
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Ahhhhhhh shoulda figgered that---the Green Lantern (HAL JORDAN VERSION) T-shirt shoulda given it away---
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I was wondering how long it would take you to mention Stargate on a thread that had nothing to do with Stargate. You showed amazing restraint for the majority of your posts.
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it was relevant. the connection is there
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Hypocrites!
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right about the time Max Hardcore gets outta the can and is looking for "New Talent".Megan Fox stars in "Transfuckers: The Machine Whores". Instant classic right there.
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all this talk back hate is so dumb and annoying. DO you guys not enjoy PORN? Junk Food? Sex? Bay movies are not supposed to be smart or have good plots (aside from maybe The Rock and The Island). Bay films are like porn! Junk food! Pure enjoyment. No redeeming value whatsoever. Just have a good time, enjoy the explosions, car chases, military action, gunn shootouts, hot chicks, robots, etc.
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So is "looking cool" the new slang for "looking like a bowl of bantha poodoo"?
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I recall that the three of us were in a Star Trek TB and Superninja wanted to know how to sell a script to the Sci Fi Channel.Maybe we don't hear from her anymore because she made it happen and she's writing scripts for Sci Fi Channel movies or something.
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Apr 29, 2009 7:27:55 PM CDT
IF YOU LOVE BAYFORMERS THEN GOOOOODD FOOORR YOOOUU!!!
by bringingsexyback
But it's useless now isn't it?
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Michael Bay is the 2 Girls 1 Cup of mainstream cinema.
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WTF happened to your original handles?
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BWAAAHAAHAAAHHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA(COUGH,COUGH)AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!!
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Talk about your cosmic coincidence. Oh well, heres hoping Leonard Nimoy gets to be the voice.
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What a waste. Blame Spieberg, people. He's the one who hired Bay.
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He he he he he.
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Michael Bay is a clone who has the biggest ego on the planet. You think he thinks his films are junk? No. The guy thinks they are some kind of brilliant "art" because they've grossed billions.
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At least he's matured a little. He no longer copies the Matrix. He's moved on to to copying James Cameron and Christopher Nolan, which is way cooler. (sorry Michael Bay, it's not you)
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Didn't you know that? The idea of big fucking robots in movies came from Michael Bay's brain and his brain only. No one ever thought of it before until he signed on to direct an adaptation of a children tv show. Michael thought of Transformers before the cartoon even existed. Duh.
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Bay knows his films are just entertainment. ready any interview. most of you losers just know what you know through the grapevine and listen to what others say but dont do your own research. you bash bay because "its cool". you praise Nolan cause "its cool". i am an actualy student of film and love ALL movies. i love action more than words can say and I love the ART of filmmaking. whether its a music video, tv commercial, or film. Bay and tony scott and fincher and kahn and JJ abrams and directors who work the camera and lighting and CGI are way more talented than crappy "hold the camera still and let the actors and script do all the work" boring drama directors out there. There countless articles that praise Bay and call his style revolutionary. so many filmmakers copy Bay's style its not even funny. yes he got some of his style from tony scott but tony copied big bro ridley and ridly copied adrian lyne and alan parker, the british new wave that brought the tv commercial aesthetic to movie making, lush images and facny cinematography and camera moves. TWICE...michael bay has taken move visual effects to a new level...PEARL HARBOR and TRANSFORMERS. even his most ardent critics agree. face it, without big summer action films...the movie industry would be dead. action films have changed so many peoples lives and give us that wonder to become movie fans and Bay and speilberg and cameron and tony and ridley are the reasons i want to direct and fincher is the reason i did a music video in film school shot very similar to a TV ad he did where everything was going backwards with reverse animation. bottom line...TRUE FILM FANS analyze what a director sets out to do, if they do it well, and if it brings something new to the medium. i judge hitchcock on if he creates suspense and thrill me. he made thrillers. i judge wes craven films as to how scary they are. i judge m . night shyamalan films on if the twist at the end shocks me. i judge romantic films on if they are romantic. Bay makes simple action packed rock em sock em balls tot he wall, damn common sense MTV generation action flicks for teenagers boys, he said so himself. and when it comes to his CGI, his lighting, his music, his action scenes, his camera work, Bay is GREAT at what he does and few do action the way he does. learn something about the filmmaking process and when you can direct a set the way he does and handle a $300 million film the way he then you can talk. im not saying like his work but dont say he aint great at what he does...
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there, I said it.Whatever you feel he's achieved or adept at technically, his story telling sucks.
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If you a such film fan then you should appreciate those directors who are NOT ONLY JUST masters of CGI, lighting, action scenes, camera work and all that but are ALSO still able tell a good story you don't have to completely shut your brain off to enjoy. You should also appreciate those who do it and aren't egomanical douche bags about it.
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except for a distinct lack of transformers screen time. And very shitty robot design, as we all agree. Actually i think the whole world, except the people that made the movie, hate how the robots look in that movie. Still, the ending fight in the city is pretty nice. Albeit a bit ruined by the closeups of blurry metal. Megan Fox doesn't hurt on the eyes, not one bit, and Shia is a great actor, if you consider he was talking to CGI creations that would be added later. Seriously, i really think the dude is a good actor to pull something like that off. I mean, could anyone do it? Could you? And Michael Bay is not a bad director! I could actually follow the plot, i understood where the characters were in the frame, and the progression of the shots was logical. I mean, it's not like Uve Boll directed the movie, it's not like Michael Bay walked into the frame in the middle of the movie and raped a chicken. There was no tentacle rape scene, like there would have been if Takashi Miike had directed it. Omg, we are lucky that Takashi Miike did not direct. It's simply a good summer action movie. The cartoons were by no means Shakespeare, so i don't understand the hate, the guy did a good job. I'm serious btw.
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and I really don't care what anyone else thinks. Bay is, in my opinion the greatest english speaking action director working today. His films look cool, with great iconic shots, insane camera angles and a great kentic vibe.
He is also one of the rare directors in Hollywood that loves to do as much pratical in camera work as he can - which seeing as most of the guys on this site bitch and moan about the over use of CGI, I thought you would respect that.
I was the target audience for the TF cartoon as I was 5 in '84, but that show has aged badly and if I catch the animated movie on tv I'll watch it for the nostalgia kick, but the flaws are there for all to see.
You say that the script sucked for TF1? Would you rather have seen a live action "The Girl That Loved Powerglide"?
Yes Pearl Harbor sucked, but The Rock kicked ass. As did Bad Boys and to this day I think that Armaggedon is one of the purest all out action/disaster movies ever made.
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I agree with you about Shia. I think the guy is great at what he does. He was wicked in Holes and I seem to be the only one who liked Mutt in Indy 4 too. (Sans Tarzan of course.)
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If it weren't for the Victorians hero worship of him, I doubt "the bard" would be as popular(or seemingly so) as everyone makes him out to be.I have to admit Shakespeare's Transformers as visualized by Michael Bay, would be worth buying a ticket.
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His constant, quick cuts. His use of filters or whatever that made Shia and Megan glow an unearthly orange. The Ford commercial style camera angles. Ugh.
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Starscream: Let us haste to hear it,
And call the noblest to the audience.
For me, with sorrow I embrace my fortune:
I have some rights of memory in Cyberton,
Which now to claim my vantage doth invite me.
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I loves me some poetic robots! The Bard was a poet you know.
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...so when are these big robots gonna fuck? I distinctly remember a metal vagina-faced tank design for Megatron, and between the designs for this and Terminator: Erection, there is no shortage of big barbed wire phalluses. I guess the question is, who would be better suited to direct action/robot porn... the guy who films cars and jets like porn stars, or the guy who brought back Charlie's Angels as Matrix fighters?
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I thought Shakespeare was Elizabethan? Eh, In a few hundred years no one will be complaining about having to study the work of "The Bay" because of how popular he was in ancient Obamaian times.
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victorian era english...
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I'm not Sal Bando.
Something's wrong with my messi account, I was gone from aicn for a few weeks and now it doesn't work but I never bothered to check with the dudes, I will. I want my old one back. messi needs to live again. -
There was a guy translating the whole movie into Spanish for his girlfriend, he was pretty quick, but he didn't have to translate much dialogue after all.
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When the hero robot man that is a semitruck was making the speech at the end about giving mankind hope after he had destroyed about 8000 buildings - but otherwise truly a shitball of a movie.
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This will be the most expensive commercial ever made! army commercial car commercial another movie commercial Egypt commercial motorcycle commercial navy commercial collage commercial eBay commercial mountain dew commercial marines commercial.. All set on continues loop through out 2 and half hours of 2 second editing, quick cuts, non stop moving camera shots, while playing the same monotonous soundtrack.
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and finishes it off with a side of Wheaton dick. Of course you hate it.
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I wouldn't say I adore it but I have seen a lotIts all in the execution and really is about the theatre experience. Stage directors do their job by bringing out different aspects of the texts. They re-arrange scenes and fiddle with emphasis to create a unique interpretation.Watching Shakespeare done badly, however, is hell on earth but with actors who can handle the language such as Patrick Stewart or Rory Kinnear you can see why it has stood the test of time.
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It just looks like shit. Besides, I bet the DVD will be unrated anyway.
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Not wanting to see it anytime soon, but a true geek property not having reviews yet on a Geek website really suprises me.
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Hope I don't get my arse kicked by The Chin for that!
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-I'm TomBodet as if you didn't guess it. Well good to see you back--Big Robots Hitting Each Other Once Again should be a fun time. Here in da Boards, too.
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sweet, old school shit.
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cool dude.
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Just logged in and saw another bunch of people using the 'it's not Shakespeare, just a fun action flick' argument. And of course calling people 'haters' and saying that the fact that they don't like Bay films makes them somehow sexually dysfunctional.
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I was thinking about it. And I think the answer is this: I truly believe that Michael Bay's films, the kind of cinema he makes, are actively ruining the art form. They are replacing excitement and suspense and drama and humour with a kind of bombast that deafens you into submission. Now, if no one was watching these films, I wouldn't have such a problem. But the fact is, as Ganymede and other have pointed out, that LOADS of people not only saw Transformers, but will also see this summer's sequel. And to those guys, I guess I want to say: it doesn't have to be like this!
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Put aside the fact that Bay's films revel in destruction and violence - which itself is kind of demented in a post-9/11 world (as Team: America pointed out). On a very simple level, I believe that blockbuster entertainment can be so much better than what Bay is delivering. Look: in a true rollercoaster movie, you expect to laugh, to cry, to be frightened perhaps, but most of all to be excited - totally involved in the world. What I regard as 'the classics' - Jaws, ET, Star Wars, then the new breed such as Fellowship of the Ring, Spider-Man 2, the later Potter films - manage to do this. Transformers, in my opinion, simply didn't?
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Well, if only I knew that EXACTLY! But I would say two things: brilliant characters, and properly thought out stories. Look: watch Raiders, then watch Lara Croft. Can't you tell the difference. And, what's relevant to this talkback, isn't it worth exploring, if you think one is better than the other, WHY this is so? Now, for the summer blockbuster, the action sequence is very important. And brilliant characters and storytelling will only improve an action sequence. Most of all - and what Bay will never understand - exciting sequences DON'T have to be relentlessly noisy. Think of the first T-Rex attack in Jurassic. Totally gripping, but much of it very quiet - bar the dino's roar.
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I saw Transformers - mostly from reading on this site that it was pretty incredibly - and was AMAZED at how bad it was. Sure, the CGI was incredible - but without characters and story it's meaningless. I can't speak for all the 'haters' but I can say that I am rambling along here (very pompously, I'm sorry to be such a troll) because I PASSIONATELY adore good summer blockbusters, and I don't think that we should EVER pretend that something 3rd rate is anything more than that. So look: if you are happy paying $10 to see a third-rate film, that's fine by me. But don't justify your gullibility by accusing me of wanting all blockbusters to be Shakespeare. The first-rate blockbuster is out there (sometimes) and THAT'S no less than we deserve.
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It's hard to totally write Bay off as a film-maker, if only for the technical expertise he brings to the artform. I'm the first to agree with you that he values bombast over EVERYTHING - from the first TF movie I can't honestly tell you what any of the robots actually look like, too many moving parts and motion blur - but he does do car chases and explosive action scenes well. He's adept at handling smart-ass dialogue too - THE ROCK was full of them - and occasionally he even ALMOST pulls off emotional scenes, such as Michael Biehn facing off against Ed Harris in the bathroom at Alcatraz, both sides agreeing on what Ed Harris's motivation but not on his methods. He gets it, but every time the need for BIG BADABOOOOM!!! trumps the need for emotional integrity.
My favourite movies of his are definitely the BAD BOYS movies, though. Although I believe much more of the camaraderie and genuine emotion between Smith and Lawrence is much more from what the actors give their characters than the way Bay directs them, they're still effective buddy movies because the characters are exactly that: BUDDIES. BAD BOYS I and II have that same chemistry you saw in the early LETHAL WEAPONS, and that's not bad going for a director who's primary reason for making movies is SHRAKATAKALAKABOOOOOOOOOMMM!!!!!
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I just had to get it off my chest. I'll be quiet now while you all stone me to death!
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THE ROCK has perfect action sequences (if a bit noisy - I completely agree, Mr gorilla!). Paced well, acted well, perfectly photographed. Then the BAD BOYS movies - again, beautifully filmed action, but... the first movie is slightly more ocherent than the second - by the time shit blows up in Cuba, not only has Bay gone one ending too far, he's getting so fast with the cutting that we have no geographical bearings as to what's happening where in the frame.
Then to TRANSFORMERS... and we can't see shit. Too fast, too blurred, and waaay too fucking loud.
Tony Scott did the same thing. Guy did TOP GUN - perfect aerial sequences, beautifully filmed. THE LAST BOY SCOUT - great movie, but the cuts are getting faster, the sound louder. DOMINO - the only way I could follow that movie is if I were to be having an epileptic fit at the same time I were watching it. Waaay too fast cuts for it to make any sense whatsoever.
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The intro from RED EYE the other night. I was up late working, with my TV playing off to the side, when suddenly the Fox News Alert banner came up as well as that CHONG! sound that they play, at which point this kicked in. I have to admit, I laughed...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mCQv7vP5Hk
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That's pretty funny. I can be a bit of a film snob but I've tucked away all the whiny bitchy faggotry for this film..I want to turn off my brain and see giant robots fight and blow shit up real good...and from the looks of the these trailers,I'm going to be a happy camper this summer.
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Your childhood is forever "transformed" by BAYFORMERS 2 this summer! Flame on! http://tinyurl.com/dccq ua
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You all say that Bay's Transformers suck. Yet, you give no reasons to why you believe that. So enlighten me upon your thoughts. Is it becouase Prime wasn't a flat-nosed truck? I'm pretty sure there are people that just sit on the computers all day badmouthing great movies just to piss people off. Chances are they really did like the movies the're hating on.
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Apr 30, 2009 11:55:48 AM CDT
"I heard it wasn't all that" = "Diamond skin?"
by glory_fades_immaxfischer
Uh oh..that means Harry didn't get a set visit invite to T4 and right now is sucking Bay off for the 83rd time (this week)
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This is my first and last post. Please pay attention. You, (insert your name here) are an embarrassment to humanity. You are spewing hatred for a movie about toy robots. You would like to think that your frustrations about said toy robot movie are important. You want the world to be impressed with your wit. Perhaps you just want to shock others with your clever use of profanity. You are genuinely angered by the movie and feel the need to share your anger with others. After all, everyone wants to fit in and be a part of something bigger than themselves. I have some very disappointing news for you. Up to this point you have wasted your pathetic life. However, you still have hope. Your first instinct will be to use some form of sarcasm in response to this paragraph. Fight this urge, you are simply in denial. Your next reaction will be to attempt to say something humorous in order to gain respect from your fellow embarrassments to humanity and remove the focus from you. Again, fight this urge. Over time these urges will subside and you will face your greatest challenge....depression. Most of you are already dealing with this now. You are constantly seeking distraction from the painful reality of your existence. For many of you mental masturbation (and most likely physical) is what gets you through the day. Until you deal with your sad condition you will only shorten your already brief life span. "How do I deal with this?", you may ask. The answer is very simple. Perspective. You may have heard of it before, although it is more difficult to find than it has been in the past. Unfortunately the only way to obtain it is to see things from a different point of view than your own. This will be difficult. Your love affair with yourself is what got you here in the first place. However, I will point you in the right direction. Do something good for someone who cannot repay the favor today. Do not allow them to know you did it as your already inflated ego needs no more assistance. This will get you started on the path back to being a positive example of humanity. I wish you well on your journey.
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Origins is the definition of shitty movie. The TF is not. And what really irratates me is none of you give any specific reasons for hating it besides he moves the camera. That's sounds so idiotic it's infuriating. I seriously think that some of you should get your eyes checked. Being a kid of the 80's I grew up playing video games. So my pattern recognition skills are off the charts. I had zero problems viewing the action in TF.
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wolverine went down to 39% now. may possibly go even lower.
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And it has nothing to do with the CGI orgy on screen either.
1. Shit script, it made the cartoon seem eloquent and deep by comparison. And no..."its a movie about toys" is no excuse. Everything is a movie about something, often threadbare, silly somethings. Now, if you are a fucking professional, respect your craft and not a complete script puncher then you as an artist do your very best to elevate questionable material. A Good writer and director could make a quality movie out of Strawberry Fucking Shortcake.2. Shit acting by everyone involved; although to be fair this is probably due in part to Orci's insipid writing.
Those are the reasons I dislike Transformers...it is childish, stupid and insulting to the viewer; just because it is based on a toy cartoon doesn't mean it has to be shit my friends. -
Apr 30, 2009 1:39:43 PM CDT
ganymede3010 ignores what people say about transformers
by spectrebeeyatch
Not only are the camera movements bad, but the dialogue, the concept of action, almost all the human characters. I don't care if you thought the mountain dew robot was funny it was pointless. The movie is filled with pointless crap it should only be about fifty minutes long. But with all the pointless crap in it the flick runs over 2 hours somehow. Transformers is horrible and the second one will be just as bad. And we all know we're seeing Wolverine no matter what % it's at on RT.
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I made dinner while it Dl'd, watched it, thanked Thepiratebay in my prayers for saving me the pain of wasting $20+ bucks on that heaping pile of shit.I'll never again walk into a movie without watching a low res preview online first; Cloverfield fucked me hard, I felt cheated, and told myself right there that never again would I pay for a meal that made me sick. SO from now on...I test drive these things before I drive to the cinema...they are usually up somewhere within a day or two of wide release...if I like it, then I head over and drop my coin to watch it properly, if I don't I delete it and fuck you Hollywood.Now TF2..I probably won't waste the bandwidth...I know this is shit sight unseen.
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What in the fuck does that mean? Please be specific. You haters are using to many cryptic phrases to encapsulate your arguments. As for Origins, I wouldn't pay to see that shit If it was 2 dollar matinee. On the other hand, all you so-called haters will be there for TF2 opening fucking night. Standing in line, grining from cheek to cheek in the privacy of your local theaters. Only to return to AICN the same night divulging your likes and dislikes about the film. If not, then you won't have a modicum of credibility if you choose to continue with your childish TF tirades.
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Don't tell me you haters are going to completely avoid watching this. You are just as if not more curious about TF2 than us.YOU WILL SEE THIS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.And if it disappoints you again,It will make me laugh with glee..because not only would I have seen a fun summer movie,that it made you cocksuckers more miserable.
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I've never seen the first, and no I won't see this one either. Nice try though.
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Besides the Bayish Zimmer Military bits parts of the score were magical. That Autobot theme is one of the best themes ever.
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It certainly wasn't good, but I think people are going too extreme with the "awful, horrible, terrible" comments. It was half-assed and messy, but it wasn't Batman and Robin bad (hell, it would've been more entertaining if it was).
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700 million world wide, 277 million in DVD sales. In the Yahoo Poll over 94,000 people voted. So what I'm trying to explain to you is that I can provide sources outside of my subjective opinion to support my side of the argument. All you have is "Asimov thinks TF sucks". That's why you'll continue to loose this debate. The fact of the matter is, in this case you're in the minority and that's a fact.
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However I'll pay to go see Terminator...
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According to Empire magazine here in the UK, WATCHMEN looks to make less money overall than BATMAN & ROBIN did. Does that mean WATCHMEN is a shittier movie than BATMAN & ROBIN? Does it?
You fucking moron. Go buy a clue, or three. -
Here's the facts you bloody fucking bastard. If Batman and Robin came out when everyone had access to the information we have today via the internet, Batman and Robin wouldn't of made shit. Also, do you actually think if Michael Shumaucker and the same cast returned for Batman 4 do you think the movie would of made more then it's predecessor? I really hope you Brits aren't that bloody stupid. Here's my point, ROTF is coming out in UK, the same cast, same director. And I'll bloody guarantee you that I will make more money then TF1. Meaning, the Brits obviously liked the first movie, that's why *more* of them will come out and see the second. You can't win this argument dude, so give it up you bloody fucking bastard;)
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I'll repeat, I used 3 outside sources to substantiate my side of the debate. 1) Opinion of the fans from Yahoo Movies. 2) Box office numbers. 3) Record breaking DVD sales. All of those indicate that more people enjoyed the movie then those who didn't. A movie can't generate record breaking DVD sales if the theatrical version was shitty. So I'm trying to find anything outside your subjective opinion that substantiates your side of the argument. Ok I'll concede one point, the internet trolls agree with you. That's the only outside source that validates your side of the debate. And that's why you lose. Checkmate!
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The first movie that AICN managed to run into the ground BEFORE it was released, by the sheer force of bad reviews alone? Do you know what that shit was?
BATMAN & ROBIN!
For fuck's sake, you have NO FUCKING IDEA! -
I take your point about ST2:TWOK being better than WATCHMEN. For my money, the main problem with WATCHMEN was the new ending - but I'm not opening that can of squid again.
Ganymede3010 is the kind of twat who will argue that AMERICAN IDOL has more viewers than the Moon Landing did, ergo Simon Cowell's inflated ego is of more intrinsic worth than mankind making it to the moon. Fucking unbelievable.
And taking box office as a measure of quality - like 90% of the movie-going public AREN'T mouth-breathing moronoids that will watch any movie that's blanket-bomb advertised at them. Which is why shit like ANGELS & DEMONS wil be on every fucking screen in my small neck of the woods, and the underdog greats like OUTLANDER... fucking wasn't. -
Ok, lets take a trip into your lonely fantasy world and assume that most people paid for TF's and hated it. How would you explain the record breaking DVD sales? Like I said, CHECKMATE!
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Stupid non-functional Yahoo HD links! DIE YAHOO DIE!
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bunch of joyless cunts.Most movies are made for the general audience so Box office numbers do count.Transformers was not an art house independent flick,It was made for everybody who can have a good time at a movie. A dumb,loud,fun spectacle. And enough people enjoyed it to make $700+million so they get a sequel. And don't tell me you won't see it 'cause you will.You may not pay for it but I'm sure you'll see it online,downloaded or watch the DVD at your boyfriend's house..other wise you won't have anything to fuel your cunty hate and come back here to bitch some more.
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Apr 30, 2009 7:02:16 PM CDT
Mcspud, in 97 less than 25% of Americans had Internet access
by ganymede3010
So like I said, there wasn't enough information circulating to alarm the general public of the crapfest they were about to pay for. So who gives a flying fuck what opinion AICN had in 1997 when less than 25% of Americans had access to the information being espoused. If Batman and Robin were to come out today, the movie would flop, that's why you lose. Game over, try again.
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Once ROTF is released it will spawn the most epic talkback since TF1. In order for these attention whores to participate they'll have to watch it opening night. If you were here during the last release, you'll remember that 100% of the haters who proclaimed they'll never see it, paid for it, reviewed it and liked it.
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