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Check Out TERMINATOR SALVATION Concept Art/Images!!
Merrick here...
...with an exclusive preview of TERMINATOR SALVATION images featured in two publications from Titan Books (website HERE).
The Titan folks did a fine job with the recent WATCHMEN books (HERE); I'm eager to see the glimpse they'll give us into McG's TERMIverse.
What we see below are three images illustrating the design progression of the "Moto-Terminators" - the heavily armed, TRANSFORMERS-esque pursuit vehicles featured in the trailers.
The top two designs below show early concepts for the Moto-Terminators. I'm told the original intent for these guys was to literally have Terminators with wheels - evoking a Terminator riding a motorcycle. But if you embiggen the pics and look at the Terminator's legs/feet? Sure looks like a Terminator who's actually riding a motorcycle to me...
The following shot offers a closer look at the final product we'll see in the film. If I'm interpreting this design correctly, a more obvious "robot motorcycle" approach was ultimately taken (i.e. a Terminator bike as an autonomous, stand-alone device - without any of the iconic Terminator torsos, heads, etc. evident in the design).
We hope to have a more comprehensive look a these books (including a few more images, maybe?) very, very soon. The THE ART OF TERMINATOR SALVATION and "TERMINATOR SALVATION: THE OFFICIAL MOVIE COMPANION" will hit bookstores today (Tuesday April 28).
You can order THE ART OF TERMINATOR SALVATION HERE
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...and find TERMINATOR SALVATION: THE OFFICIAL MOVIE COMPANION HERE
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Or, in a few weeks, Titan Books & AICN just might bring you another way to snag some copies...so stay tuned!
'Terminator Salvation © 2009 T Asset Acquisition Company, LLC.'
'Terminator Salvation © 2009 T Asset Acquisition Company, LLC.'
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Oh yeah.....
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Hmmm...great!
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A good chase? I hope so! I´m sick of shaky cams and bayeristic confusion.
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Looks kinda silly. Good thing it's the only silly thing about this movie that I've seen, it still looks great overall.
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The more I want to see this movie. It's looks friggin' fantastic. I can't wait to see how this is supposed to fit into a trilogy. The bike is kinda...meh...but everything else looks awesome. The desolation and stagnation of the world is pretty phenomenal. Or maybe I just love post apocalyptic movies.
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Somewhere Jim Cameron is shaking his head.
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McG wants to challenge the audience? This is coming from the man that gave us Charlie's Angels. He is all up about himself isn't he.
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huh that terminator is copying dark knight
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looks fucking stupid and makes no sense. The only reason the Terminators are humanoid is for infiltration purposes. I'm glad they didn't go with that design. Not that I'll probably see this film anyway.
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you're a pussy McG, go clean out that vagina.
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oh fuck it, its fun and easy
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they didn't go with those first designs...and thank GOD those didn't get leaked months ago, or all hell would have broken loose about how shit the movie was gonna be...like we didn't have enough of that already...Looking forward to this...
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Every time I see one of those books where it's just some concept drawings and promotional artwork for one movie I wonder who buys them. I understand those coffee table books that are just Movie Posters of The 70s or whatever, but just looking at different sketches of Rorschach or some dude's oil painting that helped design one shot in Armageddon or something. Who pays $40 for that?
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Apr 28, 2009 8:53:06 AM CDT
That's what we need. Terminators that look like Transformers.
by v'shael
All we need to do, to make sure the public accepts this, is to "hang a lantern" on it. Have one of the characters refer to them as Transformers or something. That'll be cool. (/Sarcasm)
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a Terminator with really big titties will be seen trying to infiltrate a bunker with promises of a blowjob, or self expanding funbags.
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If the movie is BALLS I will. I own a Star Wars Universe concept art Book and one for Hellboy.
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Glad they went with the robot-moterbike design. The terminator on the bike looks gayer than christmas. Never thought I say this about a McG terminator sequel but I am really looking forward to this!
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Art students, Artists who work in video game companies ect ect..
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Thanks to all the anti-hype on AICN, it'll be a nice surprise. Then again, it could be this year's Reign of Fire where the potential was never fully exploited. Reserve judgment.
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It's still McG
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LET OFF SOME STEAM TARA BENNETT
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...about the concept art they didn't go through with? People are complaining about the shitty idea of having a terminator riding a motorbike...complaining about something that isn't going to be in the bloody film! Christ you people are insane.
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Damn You Michael Bay
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But, if they had used the first drafts of those designs, I would have laughed this movie right outta town. That first one is the stupidest thing I've seen since 3:45 last Thursday afternoon.
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Motorcycles are in fact just a tool. Humans ride motorcycles, a Terminator rode a motorcycle in T2, it's not unfeasible that Skynet would make motorcycles for Terminators to ride. Though to be fair, it does LOOK stupid even if the idea is sound. And also the idea of an autonomous motorcycle is more in line with the other vehicles, like the HKs.
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In the first two films they had them on the battlefield without skin, so they're not only for infiltration. Maybe the human form works great, for post apocalyptic urban warfare (It can climb, run, shoot, etc.). So I wouldn't mind if skynet made motorcycle attachments for some of them, more efficient than creating a new robot, new factory and all.
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...but it sure smells good!
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An interesting look at the creative process. That said, the only books of that stuff I've bought are the Star Wars ones.
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was the concept art. Especially what Ryan Church was doing.
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I'll buy them over almost any other collectible in regards to a film.
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It had to be said.
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Of all the things to bitch about, the design is not it.
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More gritty - fine. But up till now the terminators have been perfect killing machines. How long till the rain puts these things out of action? How long is something that rusts going to last inside a blood filled cyborg skin? Blah blah blah. Who cares but its just not as good. Also the bikes are lame. Why would the machines ever really need them? To chase cars down motorways? To chase cars down the motorways which are not destroyed by nukes and cannot be patrolled by the awesome flying VTOL drone ships? Lame lame lame. End of.
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This looks good, cant wait.
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... the have some sketches of the fucking lights, before and after they've been torn down.
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I will never watch this cunt of a movie. Mc G is fucking you all in the ass and you're all taking it like bitches. Fuck all you faggots.
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Apr 28, 2009 9:59:28 AM CDT
Who buys "art of" books? Spandau Belly, youve gotta be kidding m
by d.vader
Movie fans do, that's who. I myself have quite a few of them, for the Star Wars prequels, for LOTR...
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Or do you just like to hang out in the same bars as Mc G?
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Apr 28, 2009 10:03:44 AM CDT
Hey you! Are you starting to enjoy the taste of man juice?
by alucardvsdracula
If you are, then welcome one and all to the ghey world of McG and his in no way shape or form Transformer inspired Terminator toys. Go on say it "PG13" isn't that bad really. You know you're just dying to.
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One for me and the other for my +1.
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There's a shitload of cinematic storytelling that's done through VISUAL EXPOSITION. When you realise that the femme fatale may not be what she seems because her initial white dress is now red or even black, when you realise things are a bit off if the angle of the frame becomes skewed. When a guy named Darth Vader enters the room and you can take one look at his height, the colour making an imposing silhouette, even just the helmet which is reminding you subconsciously of a praying mantis, Japanese warlord and a nazi and you know he's a mean motherfucker (and he's basically making the expression of a guy choking someone to death before we even see it) in about .5 of a second, THAT'S what these books are for and to your point THAT'S why people buy them. To both appreciate the essence of filmmaking, and for those in the biz, to appreciate and learn to take advantage of the varied tools to do it well.
Can you imagine how mindnumbingly boring it would be if we only used sound and dialogue to communicate the story? We get volumes of efficient information about characters, places and whole worlds from a silhouette, a colour palette, the imposing or relaxing architecture of a room. Why is the iconic image here a cold metal skull with purposely red eyes?! And you only have to think about the design in movies like Wall-E for about 5 seconds to appreciate how much the film is telling you through shapes, colours, framing and depth of field without uttering a word. The book show how you get to that level.
People spend the 40 bucks and more because either they appreciate, or actively want to LEARN through seeing an evolving design at it's different stages how to be better and more efficient storytellers through art/design. Not through clunky and redundant dialogue. Because they appreciate film at more than the most superficial level. Sorry for coming off like an evangelist, but you actually asked the ridiculous question!
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I'll reserve judgement until I see the film, but they must have some confidence in the film for them to plan a trilogy, and to have already started pre-production on the next one.
I really like the fact that McGuinty is putting everything he's got into these movies. I'm kinda getting a Peter Jackson feel here. Remember when they announced PJ was going to helm the LotR trilogy, and there was mass hysteria? Let's face it, PJ's first films were not that inspiring. Dead Alive made me dread that this guy was directing LotR. Maybe this'll be the same story.I like the minigun idea for the bike. Neat-o. -
why fucking buy these books? Aren't they why they put comfy chairs and a cafe in all these Borders and Barns and Noble stores?
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Why would Skynet design and build autonomous speed bikes in a post-apocalyptic environment? The roads are all going to be torn up to shit with debris everywhere. If Skynet needs land-robots they need to be all-terrain, not speed bikes.
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Don't know how I managed that. Great Vaders think alike though eh? I reckon the Sauron design was one of the only truly iconic helmet/character designs since Star Wars & Vader. The 'face' looks like a baked animal skull cooked to a crisp in the sun/fire, and the crown of knives... fantastic visual metaphors. You're not exactly in any doubt whether he's the big meanie or not. You can have the other characters talk about it all you like, but when you see him you BELIEVE it.
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Coming to Fox this fall! Seriously though, yeah, Sauron's helmet was very reminiscent of a deer skull adorned with spikes. Very dark, very cool.
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I'm pretty geeked for the slew of upcoming sci-fi juggernauts set to be released in the next few months. Terminator Salvation being at the top of the list. Still, there should be a talkback devoted solely to the sheer awesomeness of watching snake-eyes take a katana through the palm as a last resort/attempt to disarm stormshadow. badassnedness, indeed.
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"What this film needs at this point is a chase sequence... I know Terminator bikes! Yeeeeeeeeh!" Lame.
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too many Vader's spoil the.... ah, fuck it. it's not funny
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"Easy Terminator".....Instead of "Easy Rider". Get it? You know because of the bikes? Yes? Oh never mind.........
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Has anyone see this movie yet??? No reviews yet make me nervous! I think this movie might be a dud especially with a PG-13 rating.
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Apr 28, 2009 10:26:16 AM CDT
Slow staggering mindless zombies can wipe humanity out in a coup
by castlemonster
But super-intelligent militant robots get all scuffed up and weathered and ultimately fail? Horror/sci-fi logistics for wiping out the human race are all over the map.
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sense, but is awesome anyway. It FEELS more effective. Anyone who bothers to listen to me on these boards knows I often use the Walker analogy. Even within the internal logic of Star Wars where they've established hovercars, ships and so on, why have something with legs for an all-terrain vehicle instead of just fucking FLOATING over it? Because a floaty ship doesn't FEEL like a cold, unfeeling mechanical beast is going to crush you underfoot.
A trail-bike with it's anaemic mosquito-like whine and more importantly feeble silhouette may be more in line with boring, uncreative, non-poetic and most of all unCINEMATIC thinking, but these are the bad guys and they should scare you like a sleek, low Harley mutant coming to life and fucking EATING you. It should look like a mallet or a knife or a gun on wheels. Not a fucking Trail-bike. Don't succumb to the TB fanboy cliché of myopic whining. Analogy, character, metaphor dude. Much more important than literal logic. Can you imagine how ridiculous and emotionally unengaging films would be if we followed your logic? Pencil-pushing nerds with calculators would buy tickets I guess.
And I hate you for making me defend something in a McG movie, you bastard.
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Drat.
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Then instead of motorbikes they should be muthafuckin' robot cheetahs!
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How quickly I forgot! This week on the show, I jump a shark...
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You got me there mate!
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Apr 28, 2009 10:32:52 AM CDT
Nobody will be MORE surprised by this flick than the haters.
by jdanielp
I have GREAT optimism for this flick and for McG's visual talent. With the actors involved, and a good story and script, this movie will ROCK!!!
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That is all
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why isn't Warner putting this out like Star Trek? Building up advance word and settling fanboys stomachs? Answer: because it's a piece of shit.
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This fucking pisses me off. 'The haters', like people who rag on McG have no reason to be doing so. Henceforth all those who refer to fans who actually criticise and point out the flaws in things, whilst idolising morons like McG will be known as 'squeetards'.
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Where is the big night time battle scene that is bathed in blue moonlight? This film looks like a cheap Mad Max/Transformers rip-off. Of course, ripping things off is what McG does well.
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McG's visual talent? Fucking hell.
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Great story. Concept art for a movie that comes out in a few weeks.
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Like the NeoCon moles at the CIA just did?
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es el nombre en Espanol.
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Should have its own spin off...just for hilarity. Should be a sitcom, different iterations of bikes hanging out, getting recharged, shooting shit, hitting on termatrixes, whinging about how T1000s get paid more an hour.
Actually I am trying to keep an open mind about this, but that original termabike design was...well just fucking stupid. So glad they changed it, however I don't like the idea of them in the first place, and in the trailer they really distracted me. Please be a good film, I love the first two Terminator films, enjoyed the 3rd one even though very cheesy at times, but the dark brought it full circle, so would love to have a new trilogy- but only if very, very high quality. Bale would not choose to make shit...would he!?!?! -
Su hermana es mi hermana.
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Preferably in Bible form.
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Perish the thought.
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white_vader, I was not trying to undervalue what the art and costume departments do to aid storytelling. I know that getting the look of something like Darth Vader's costume right makes a big difference in how iconic the character will be etc.And it's not that I don't find this stuff interesting, but I guess just not 40 bucks interesting. I mean, the movies themselves are like $20 and this to me is just like a special feature from a DVD. I wouldn't spend $40 bucks for a special feature. Like I said, especially not just for the artwork of one single movie. Some bigger anthology that gathered stuff several films either from one genre or era I could justify.But you lads empty your piggybanks as you see fit. I guess you guys are richer and with more coffee tables / shelves than I.
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If they made a coffee table book of Bale's poems such 'The Ode To Professionalism' and 'I've Forgotten My Original Accent', with accompanying artwork (also by Bale) I would proudly display that in my loo.
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You are correct sir and from what I've seen I think McGeezuz has resurrected this franchise from the grave. Now I'm no fan of the G but I got to admit..What I've seen so far does impress.
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I can see that. Fair enough.
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Apr 28, 2009 11:10:29 AM CDT
MR. DARK - IT WAS BALE OOZING PROFESSIONALISM ALL OVER THIS PROD
by bringingsexyback
that is giving T:S its greatness. We all saw (and cringed in bone-chilling horror) what happened to Shane. Amateurism was the sickness, and professionalism the cure. Bale took the reins and rode MuhGee to a win. I am so looking forward to this movie.
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will fuck readers' eyeballs.
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You don't have to be first in line. :-)
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that I may take my children to The Historical Art of Bale Museum! The man has no peer!
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best things about the prequels.
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The art is geigerish and i think thats cool. The artists that created these images should be proud of their work. My biggest fear is that McG wont utilize the concepts properly. It will probably be a film of Michael Bay prpoortions. Loud and bland. 1,000 calories, 850 of those from noise, the rest from eye candy.
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One question, why? People rail against Charlie's Angels, I thought it was stupid too but the filmaking was fine. Angels was supposed to be high sugar, high gloss garbage. If that was the intention, didn't McG accomplish his mission?
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I am a concept artist for video games, and so I guess I can only offer a view from a very specific perspective. Of course all of us in this bussiness buy these kinds of books all the time. However, I do point out that I imagine that I wouldn't even consider buying the concept art book for Terminator Salvation. Not that it doesnt look like a fantastic movie- it sure does look great to me- I just don't expect the concept art to be very inspiring and interesting overall- especially if this terminator motorcycle is representative of the concepts for this movie. And actually I like this design for the terminator motorcycle, I just don't find the concept itself to be particularly beautiful. Actually I wouldn't buy the concept art books for all kinds of movies- some are just not very interesting. I wouldn't ever buy a Matrix concept art book, however I would buy a concept art book from the Star Wars Prequals- even though I hate those movies passionately and would never own them on DVD even, nor do I ever plan to watch those godforesaken movies again in my life, I will buy the art books for all three movies happily, because indeed there are some very beautiful drawings and paintings by people like Ryan Church, Ian McCaig & Terryl Whitlatch. And I actually hate most of the designs in those movies as well, but the concept art is beautifully executed, even if it is flawed in design. So anyways Spandau Belly, if you are talking about concept art books based on movies with not very interesting or beautiful concept art like Terminator Salvation, well then maybe I can understand why you dont see any value in people buying these books. But if you just don't understand why anyone would buy a concept book EVER, well then I just don't understand why you wouldn't see the great value in some of these books. I figure that you don't see any problem with someone spending money on other art work, why is it any different to spend money on this artwork? I think concept art can be some of the most fresh and energetic forms of art that exists. There are many many concept pieces out there that are some of the most beautiful examples of art that you have ever seen. If is just that you dont understand why someone would pay money for art in general, well then I guess I can understand a total lack of interest in art altogether.
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This movie will be disastrous. It might be just a few notches better than Terminator 3. Just a little though. The first clue is the little kiddie rating they gave it. PG-13? You gotta be kidding me. And yes I know a movie doesn't have to be rated R to be good,..aka The Dark Knight blah blah blah..This is a F***king TERMINATOR MOVIE that's showing the actual WAR WITH THE MACHINES! It has to be gritty and dark and bloody and have no PG restrictions. And yes I am pissed that the Moon Bloodgood naked scene has been cut out. I want the movie complete and untampered with. We're getting a watered down piss poor excuse for a Terminator film so I will not be like the rest of the sheep out there and waste my money..nuff' said
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He has no soul.
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bitchbitchbitchbitchbitch...
christ almighty...
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The PG-13 rating is just to lure unsuspecting teens into the Church of Bale. That's how the Baleivers roll. Salaam Baleikum.
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good news!!!
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After thousands of postings, how could you get that wrong?
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my mistake. i got mcmlxxvi's postings mixed up with the poster FUCKMICHAELBAY.
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Apr 28, 2009 11:43:02 AM CDT
IT'S OKAY, JRYANH, BUT LET ME ASK YOU AN MPORTANT QUESTION
by bringingsexyback
Have you heard the Good News about Christian Bale?
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Apr 28, 2009 11:58:20 AM CDT
"They look human - sweat, bad breath, two wheels, handlebars, ev
by 3 bag enema
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"They look human - sweat, bad breath, two wheels, handlebars, everything. Very hard to spot...."
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IT WILL EVEN OWN T2 AND IT'S I NOW WY YOU CWY BABY TERMINATOR. TRUST ME.
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haters are _WEAK_ today. lol. Must be this movie is winning people over.
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T1 ie T2 and T3 will be owned out of their kiddie child audience existence by the church of BALE.
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No news is GOOD news!!!
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That is exactly what I am saying. It's not that I don't understand the appeal of some of these books, it's that most of them baffle me. When I'm browsing through a bookstore and I see an entire coffee table book for a movie like Armageddon or Roland Emmerich's Godzilla, I just can't imagine somebody actually wanting it. That is to say I can't imagine enough people wanting it to make it worth publishing.I'm not that into Star Wars, but I can definately see how it is a rich universe full of beautiful worlds and neat creatures and so even though I wouldn't buy a book of Star Wars art, it makes sense to me that somebody else would.And what you're saying makes a lot of sense. I understand it must be really hard to be a concept artist and design really cool creatures and fascinating worlds and them have them used in a movie that is kinda crappy. So buying a book like this might be a way to enjoy some great great artwork without the lousy movie it became part of.
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Rock hard.
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Thats what i'm talkin' about, some SWEET shark lovin'... Oh wait, when you said you were going to jump a shark......
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No noose is good noose?
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Laughable shit! A terminator on a bike? might as well have put the thing on a fucking unicycle! at least then we would have got an intentional laugh out of it! that bike looks like the Freddy cycle from Nightmare 5 for fuck's sake; doesn't fit the T universe at all. Somewhere, Jim Cameron is laughing (or crying, I can't tell which).And The Plant, stop gibbering utter nonsense! if you think this PG-13 trainwreck, designed to sell toys and burgers, is going to better than the epic T2, or be considered the 'heir apparent' to the classic original, then you should really lay off the laughing gas! there are only two terminators - T1 and T2 - Jim C's movies. And thus it shall ever be!
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Those were OLD concepts, Terminators on bikes. They're not in the movie. So conclusions that this film will be crap based on unused designs are moot.
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Fucking Professional, even.
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that seems a little crap for blending in. You know it's klike this:
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Those first two endo-bikes would have just been moronic on film.
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when it has big fucking shiny flying hunter killer jobbies
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by the Smoking Robot.
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Cool, yeah I understand what you mean now. I guess we are on the same page. Ok yes you are right, there are lots of movies that really dont warrent an "art of" book. This Terminator Salvation might be one of them, even though it looks like it is probably a really terrific movie.
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Never was all that excited for Wolverine, and Trek has slipped since they're not using that amazing music from the last trailer in the tv spots, but this? Pumped. Everytime that latest ad comes on, I just have to stop what I'm doing and watch it.
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Because Skynet can produce more of these motorcycles with less effort and resources than the flying hunter killer jobbies. Those look outrageously expensive, while the motorcycles are way less expensive. It's the economics of war. That's like asking, why did Germany bother making Walther P38s when they could just kill everyone with their Super Tigers. Personally I love the motorcycles idea, they are a logical addition to the Skynet arsenal. A warfaring entity needs a wide variety of weapons for specific purposes and situations, and an army ALWAYS has to take economics into account.
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Katie Holmes?? .. she's a douche....... come on......
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Long after I'd come to despise the films, I still couldn't quite bring myself to get rid of the little paperback 'art of' book someone gave me as a gift.The concept art, plus the pre-release stills and trailers, are still where the magic was for me.Somewhere in the imaginations of millions of fans, fueled by those early images, are the prequels we always wanted to see, but didn't. It's too bad.
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EQUILIBRIUM is a film entirely about professionalism.
Bale's professionalism.
At the start of the film he is actually TOO professional.
He needs to gain Equilibrium by becoming slightly more amateur (hence the title).
Only after letting his 'inner amateur' out he is ready to become a 'true professional'.
This he achieves at the end of the film. Becoming so utterly professional that instead of having a five minute duel with his rival he kills him with a single stroke.
Never has one film, nor one actor been more devoted to uncovering the nature of 'professionalism'.
Praise Bale.
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I Love me some Bale professionalism
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I don't think the machines are at all interested in economics. What use would machines have for any monetary/economic system? They're machines. I would think they just build all there devices from recycled metals that are lying around after the war.
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YOU GOT SOMETHIN TO SAY TO THIS PRICK?
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Does that make anyone else nervous? I mean, either he wasn't as involved as McG told us he was, or he doesn't want his name on it due to lack of quality....
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Lets be honest this movie only looks good due to the Omnipotent presence of Bale. If it were any other amatuer actor playing John Connor, such as Orlando Bloom or the guy from Twilight, we'd all be calling this a Transformers ripoff. But the Proffesionalism exuding from Bale in all of the trailers is making this movie one for the ages. I think we can all agree on that.
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You make a good point. Those Art of Star Wars books are the gold standard. The concept of these books started with the first Star Wars film. That first book is what got me interested in the filmmaking in the first place. I didn't even understand the concept of movie making until I saw that book in a Waldenbooks (remember them?) in late '77 and thought "Wow. So all that stuff I saw on screen has to be designed and built and then filmed for my enjoyment. Cool." Over the years, i think; marketing departments attatched themselves to the "Art of" concept in a way to bring artistic credibility to bloated summer blockbusters. Hence, The Art of Armaggedon. Also, with the advent of dvd special features, these books make less sense to purchase now. I remember seeing thos LOTR Art Of books and wanting to get them but when I got the DVD's, the concept art section was fucking exhaustive so there was no need. Yeah, so Art Of books aint what they use to be.
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If he shows up pimping his shitty poll can one of you tell him to fuck right off in my absence. And give him this. http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/431550And tell him I voted 'no' again
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I see you mentioned Ryan Church and the other guys from the prequels and since you are in the art biz , i was wondering if you can answer this question: The Phantom Menace was design primarily by Doug Chiang and I thought his stuff was absolutley brilliant. Lucasfilm was calling him the new Ralph McQuarrie, so what happened? Come Attack of the Clones, he's just gone with no explanation. Do you know, by any chance, what happened? Did he have a falling out with Lucas or something? That guy was genius.
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with flames painted on them?
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Because he got another job as the head designer for another movie, the way I heard it. Was it Beowulf? I think it was something before that film. And in case you were confused, senorspielbergo, he *did* work on Clones.
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Godzilla have to be prepared in time for the release. Basically, the publishers are hedging their bets the movies will be big hits and will have die hard fans that buy everything.
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Thanks for the info but I don't think he actually work on Clones. They just used some of his designs that were holdovers from the first film so he got credit. But it still seems strange to me because Lucasfilm was really blowing his horn in a big way. I expected him to be the main man for the whole trilogy or that's how they made it seem anyway. Man, I sure do hope he does another major sci fi film in the future. Also, they need to bring back Ron Cobb and Syd Mead. Although Mead's usually to busy designing things for the real world. I got a copy of Syds book, Sentury and I still get a boner flipping through that. There's a section in there showing unused film designs for projects that never got made and his stuff for a Forbidden Planet remake was fucking awesome.
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In all of these post-apocalyptic films, we just see the war machine of the enemy, fighting against the last band of ragtag humans. So am I to understand that these robots simply build war devices and kill all humans? Thats their plan? I would like to see what ELSE the robots do. Why are they killing humans? What are they planning? Are they forming a society? Are they planning to explore the oceans? Are they planning to explore/colonize the solar system? I want to see what the robots do besides blow shit up. Though don't think me a pussy, blowing shit up is a non-negotiable part of Terminator.
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resources, a machine, that can produce endless copies of further machines which can then go on to dig shit out of the ground to make further machines with. the germans made weaponry designed around the humans who were necessary to operate them, skynet has no such problem. Though this argument is fucking geeky, and its just a film. Which will probably be shit.
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Apr 28, 2009 3:11:01 PM CDT
BALE AIDE ISSUES STATEMENT ON ARLEN SPECTER DEFECTION
by bringingsexyback
"He chose Professionalism. Praise Bale."
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Apr 28, 2009 3:20:30 PM CDT
DR SAUCH - BATTLING CHRISTIAN BALE IS A FULLTIME OCCUPATION
by bringingsexyback
even for a worldwide network of apocalyptically deadly robots.
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Apr 28, 2009 3:23:31 PM CDT
I RECALL SEEING DOUG CHIANG ON THE TPM BONUS MATERIALS
by bringingsexyback
Consummate professional. He must've left ILM after seeing the Trade Fed guys made into Asian stereotypes by Lucas. That definitely constituted a hostile work environment.
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When he dream it all up. This seems more intended to sell toys to brat kids than it does to enhance the narrative.
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I am all for waiting to see what the MOVIE is like before I judge it. If it is shit then I will probably hate on it. I just can't seem to get so worked up about a picture of a terminator motorbike. I'm not sure if I would rather be as passionate about things as some of you lot, or not.
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In reality, why would they use a two wheel bike, that could just get knocked down, and how could it travel over all the wreackage of the cities.
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In reality, there wouldn't be an army of walking metal robots, some of them with flesh on them, controlled by an orbital satellite computer system. And if such robots exited, they'd just tear down our lights.
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No wonder he threw that hissy-fit when someone walked past him on set, probably still pissed off at being blown off the screen by a dead man in The Dark Knight.
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Apr 28, 2009 3:47:45 PM CDT
Yeah, cause we NEVER saw a terminator on a bike before
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Not even in every movie so far.
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Man, I never thought Judas Priest would have a come back until I saw this.
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I knew you would say that, I could tell that was the level of logic that exists in your head based on your comment. I knew that you thought that skynet has endless resources. No skynet does not. Skynets resources may be vast, but there is no reason to think that Skynets resources are infinite. Skynet doesnt just snap it's fingers and BANG, Terminators appear out of thin air. It takes them time to dig those resources out of the ground (which I am glad at least you acknowledge that they need to gather resources on some level), and then they need to build stuff. It's not instantaneous, and they don't have access to infinite amounts of time. They are trying to win a war, and although we can get the impression that the Terminators are super powerful, we also should get the impression that the humans have a fighting chance in this war. In fact Terminator 1 suggested even that the humans might win the war. Obviously Skynet needs to be as economical as possible. They don't have limited numbers of humans making there hardware- that's true, but they do have limited numbers of machines making hardware- so Skynet better not form a poorly designed and wasteful army.
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Oh and don't whine about geekiness. You wouldn't even be here reading if you weren't a geek. Or go do something not geeky, like fax out a rundown on all your clients:)
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. . . you just KNOW it's Yamaha technology at their core instead of Harley Davidson. DAMN YOU SKYNET!!!!!
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The motorcycle looks interesting... but all the resistance would have to do is go off road... there is no way that bike would survive off road.
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I agree with Samus and BringingSexyBack.
The Terminators are fighting a war against...Bale.
If anything the Terminators are the fucking underdogs.
I know they got this thing planned as a trilogy but I wouldn't be suprised if Bale wiped 'em all out in the first movie.
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Could you actually fire a couple of motorbike-mounted miniguns without losing balance? A muthafuckin' robot cheetah could handle a pair of miniguns, AS WE ARE ALL AWARE, but I doubt a bike could!
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thats me told.
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How many humans are there left to fight? I mean, how many robots do the machines have to manufacture? They're machines who don't need rest so they're building these things around the clock. So the time it takes to dig up these resources (which would be lying around EVERYWHERE. Us humans leave behind ALOT of scrap) and build them to fight the small number of humans left wouldn't affect the machines time table that much. they may have to be somewhat economical but i think they still have alot of time to spend on research and developement. At least enough time to build a time machine which, by the way would take the humans another hundred years or so as oppossed to a few decades the machines took. They're machines. They replicate. Make billions of calculations a second. They don't eat sleep or need social interaction. These motorcycles seem like another R and D project which of course, still seems totally illogical since the roads would be unusable and cluttered with abandoned cars and such as many of you have pointed out. King covered this issue in The Stand as well. No wonder the humans were winning the war. For machines, these robots are pretty fucking stupid.
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A head shot is so easy to take on the terminator on the motorcycle...his bright red two eyes are in front... get a sniper rifle...good game.
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"Skynet doesnt just snap it's fingers and BANG, Terminators appear out of thin air"
Erm, sorry to be a pedant, but isn't that the whole point of the films so far, 'cept with blue lightening and naked Arnie? Bang, or rather zap, Terminator appears out of thin air.
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would be "tit-fucking" Howard's daughter? Isn't that his wife?
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Now that it's been leaked that Salvation will be PG13, I have as much interest in watching the Dragonball Z live action abortion. Funny, when I was watching the original Terminator in '84, I wasn't exactly picturing the bleak Armageddon-ish future as acceptable for 13-year-olds. Fuck Salvation!!!
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I was thinking the same thing about the miniguns.
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They should have Bale talking on Skynet and the Terminators, plus the Predators and Aliens.
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So... Connor's wife is preggers in the movie...so does his future child send a terminator back in time? .
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regarding Doug Chiang, I don't know at all what happened. If Lucas called him the next Ralph McQuarrie, that is exactly what I thought Lucas thought about him. Personally I couldn't disagree with Lucas more on that. And don't get me wrong, I think Doug Chiang is a very talented artist and a pretty decent designer. But the thing is, his painting style looked almost exactly like Ralph McQuarrie's, and that is why I thought George Lucas chose Doug Chiang and thought he was the next Ralph McQuarrie. The problem is, his designs were nothing near as cool as Ralph McQuarries. I didn't like a single spaceship or vehicle design throughout all of Phantom Menace, nor did I like how Naboo or even Coruscant looked. They were concepts painted well, but not designed well. One particularly painful example was the hovertank. I remember when I first saw a picture of that hovertank in a magazine- I felt strongly that something was terribly wrong over on Star Wars, but eventually ignored it with blind admiration for Lucas and his judgement. I don't think that ANYBODY could look at that hovertank and honestly say that it looks cool- and that was just the tip of the iceberg- just about every other vehicle with few exceptions were nearly as bland and boring. But I know that you really appreciate Doug Chiang, and I don't want to trash on him. Indeed he is a very talented concept artist- he definately has very good ideas at times, and his paintings are very pretty. I just don't think he was right for Star Wars- he's nothing like Ralph McQuarrie, and that was a pretty big problem in my view. However, I would love for his "Robota" to be made into a movie as was being planned at least at one time. I would be there on opening day to see his designs come to life were that to happen. I think his style of design would be perfect for that. And you know what, maybe the bad designs were not Doug Chiangs fault AT ALL. Maybe he was heavily pressured in that direction by George Lucas. I do remember that George Lucas was big on that "Past time when designs weren't as rugged" bullshit. He may have forced Doug to paint garbage designs, despite Doug Chiangs better judgement.
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you have got to be kidding me if you think Terminators dont need to be constructed. I think you are just putting me on.
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Damn straight. Also, between the first 2 terminator films, the three matrix films and the star wars prequels, I'm a little burned out on the whole man against machine future war thing. I feel like I've seen every iteration of that idea now. The only way I could sit through another "robot war" is if the machines actually win for a change. As someone up above said, i think I'm more intersted now in seeing what the machines would do after they defeat the humans. You know those chrome domes got some big ideas for the future.
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Just read your comment. Hilarious (but true) observation about the movie and it's dedication to Bale's utter professionalism. I still remember my jaw hitting the theater floor during that final action sequence. Bale took out Diggs with one swing. Even better was that the douche of a bad guy actually had moves and went one on one vs Bale. Ultimately a bad decision. There is no beating an true professional such as Bale.
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Your idea on a story about what machines would do if they actually won- that's not bad. I wouldn't mind seeing a movie on that either.
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Yeah, good point man. While i like Chiangs work, yeah i agree; he's no McQuarrie. But I liked the retro design even though I think you're right. I think he was pressured by Lucas to make the ships look like "car hood ornaments" as I think he called them. I think that's were the conflict between the two probably came from. I think they differed alot on the design direction. Robota pretty much proves that. Some of it is definately inspired by his work on TPM but seems also more rugged, less smooth and works better in the context of that setting. Still, Mead's the man though.
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It's funny how his hissy-fit rant has made him into even more of a godlike figure with everyone!! He's probably the only actor on the planet (aside from someone like Nicholson maybe) who could have that rant and everyone still loves him for it. I wish they dubbed some of it into Salvation somehow, that would be FUCKING DISTRACTING but still cool as hell. Or have Bale ADR a couple of lines. They should do a DVD feature on the rant. Surely that would give Bale and everyone involved the chance to end the whole thing once and for all, make light of it in a DVD feature?? That would rule.
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thanks man. Could work for alien invasion movies as well. Could you imagine an Independence Day type setup where for two hours we watch humans desperatley fight the aliens only to loose in the final reel. Then you make a sequeal that takes place 200 years later where the humans are slaves to the aliens and have no idea they were once free. Maybe one of the slaves starts a rebellion then and wins too but not after giant consequences and 200 years of darkness for all mankind. I guess i just want to see the stakes raised a bit higher.
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The DVD should include the actual footage of the Bale rant, cast & crew interviews directly addressing the rant, stills from the rant, and of course the original voice recording accompanied only by a blank screen. Basically, DVD special features done professionally.
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. . . robot speedboats, I'm gonna go apeshit on the talkbacks! It's too bad that's the biggest threat I can utter on McG's ass, but there you go.
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I understand you are getting tired of Man vs Machine. We have Matrix, Terminator, Battlestar Galactica, etc.. You can easily argue that it has been done to death, but I think there is still some really good life in that genre, and honestly I am starting to think that the best is yet to come, and that maybe, knock on wood, this new Terminator movie is going to start something truly terrific. This is a whole new story we have not yet seen. They talked about such a post apocalyptic war directly between man and machine in the Matrix, but we didn't see it. They talked about that war in Terminator, but again we didnt get to see it. They actually did fight the war in a way in Battlestar Galactica, but that had a far different tone than this movie will have. My point is that we have never seen this story before as far as I know, and I can't wait. All the ducks seem to be in a row. I don't know anything about McG, but I do know that he has at least expressed great concern with James Camerons approval. Michael Bay and Stephen Sommers and all those jackofs would never feel any such respect. Also the preview looks pitch perfect to me, and finally we have Christian Bale as John Conner. Praise his holy name. I am serious I am freaking happy about all of this. And this summer is shaping up to be the best movie summer in a LOONG time. I am fully looking forward to seeing 7, count them SEVEN movies this summer- Star Trek, Terminator, Bruno, Up, Public Enemies, Inglorious Bastards & "9". So many good movies coming out, I can't believe it, and I think Terminator might actually be the best of all of them. This is fresh new chapter for Terminator. I didn't even consider going to see Terminator 3 because it looked so horribly terrible to me, and now the one time I have seen it was on Rifftrax, and I thought that the Terminator franchise was pretty much over and ruined forever, just like Alien. But no, I see a preview for Terminator Salvation that looks to be everything I could have wanted from a proper Terminator movie. I am scared to be totally dissapointed, but then again, I don't know of any bad Christian Bale movies. This summer is going to be AWESOME!!!
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Cobra--Kai, your piece about EQUILIBRIUM made me realize something:
Joshua Swaney is TOO professional.
He will not accept a +1 because no one meets his standards of Professionalism. For him, everyone else is an amateur.
By refusing to accept that most people cannot reach his level of Professionalisms, and by refusing to acknowledge his own amateurism he can never reach "true Professionalism."
Joshua Swaney is as close to being a true professional as Bale as any man alive, but he will never be Bale. He has not reached Equilibrium and may never reach it. -
And if it ain't good enough for Cameron...
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You've got some good points and I really would love it if you were right, but there's NO friggin' way that Salvation will end up being the best movie of the summer. No way. Maybe it SHOULD have been the best movie of the summer, but seriously - a PG13 Terminator movie? That's the death blow right there, man. Death blow!
It's to the point where I'm as stoked to see Half-Blood Prince now, and that shouldn't have happened. Even still, I know that Basterds and Up will probably be better than Salvation, R rating or no R rating. And let's not forget about Avatar fucking our eyeballs later in the year.
It's just sad that the summer of 2009 will be opened by two movies whose franchises have been completely de-balled and sodomized by Hollywood - Terminator and the also-should-have-been-fucking-cool-but-will-be-mega-lame Wolverine. Fuck those fucking fucks! -
true man. But I think as far as the post apocalyptic thing, I can't wait for The Road. You got to put that on the list. Also, I'm really looking forward to MOON. that trailer rocked. I'm also getting encouraged because it's starting to feel to me that there may be a small movement starting in film that is treating sci-fi in a more intellectual, literary manner. We've seen the star wars inspired action sci-fi for the last 30 years and I've always wandered about that other path less travelled. The one that started to pick up steam with 2001 but was abandoned in the summer of 77. Oh, and don't forget, fantasy is about to get a facelift with A Game of Thrones comming to HBO. If you haven't read those books yet of haven't heard of this, i highly recomend you check them out. Yep, i think all us movie geeks are going to have our minds blown in the next coming years. there's some great stuff on the horizon.
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Yeah my eyeballs are all wet and ready to be fucked by Avatar, believe me. My eyes are two big nasty whorish pussies hungry for big black "Avatar" cock. LOL. However, I have very little worry about Terminator not being rated R. This is just not an area of concern. My big concern is that McG directed the two Charlie's Angels movies, this is what scares me. Rated R, not a deal breaker yet for me. I can't argue with a good looking trailer.
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I havent heard of any of those, but I will look into everything you mentioned. And it sounds like I am just like you, a freaking SUCKER for post apocalyptic. I have only seen a very small handful that were good though. Sounds like you are just as starved for good movies and to get out of this rut that we have been in for twenty some odd years. Don't blams Star Wars though- nobody seems to have been truly inspired by that, if they had, we'd have seen much better movies by now.
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I can't remember them all of the top of my head but I think I am looking forward to 5-10 releases this summer. Some of them not what too many on here will like (probably Potter most of all) but not least of all Terminator. Could be good; trailers look good, Bale is in it and it looks like the budget is through the roof which is just what you need in a robot v humans flick.I am also pretty surprised that I really want to see Star Trek. I have probably seen around 2 hours of anything relating to Star Trek in my life, most of that being when I was a kid.Transformers 2 also looks good. Fuck you, yes it does.
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yeah, man. Definately. I don't blame Star Wars though. Just the hollywood imitators who have been cloning it for almost my entire lifetime. The Road I heard, is real good. It's like Salvation but a serious, contemplative drama. Viggo Mortenson is the lead.But the real dark horse is Game of Thrones. VERY adult fantasy with lots of violence, sex and lead characters that get killed off at the drop of a hat, creating a real sense of jeapordy that NO ONE in the story is safe. Also the story itself is not at all a LOTR clone but is entirely original. The pilot shoots in October and probably won't air 'till 2010 but man, I CANT'T WAIT! It's a seven book series and each book will comprise one season. Also there are dragons that seriously fuck people up. Awesome series!
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I'm there.
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Thats not the point. Even though the terminator story is fiction, Cameron himself said once that a movie to work needs to set down rules and guidlines and have a sense of reality within the work of fiction.You said this:"In reality, there wouldn't be an army of walking metal robots, some of them with flesh on them, controlled by an orbital satellite computer system. And if such robots exited, they'd just tear down our lights". I know your saying its all fiction anyway, but reread what I just said. Why would skynet, when fighting in the ruins of a city, use a 2 wheel bike over extremly uneven terrain? Thats why they used the Hunter Killer's or whatever the tank things were called. It just add's to the immersion factor when a movie uses logic and reason within the framework of the story. When I look at these terminator-bikes, It screams less of "ok i see why skynet would use that." and more of "wow the filmakers simply added that to sell another toy."
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Consider yourself Fatwa'd.
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agree with you more. Cameron is damn right, a movie must stick to the rules of the internal logic it creates (no matter how fantastic/absurd whats happening)Thats why all terrain vehicles like the hunter killer tanks with tracks and flying hk make sense within the internal logic of the first 2 movies. It has to be said that the inclusion of the bikes does appear to be for the purpose of just creating more toys...
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Besides that this movie is about a month from release and we've actually seen these things already in the trailer.
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I have a feeling we'll be getting an extended cut with more F-bombs, gore, and tits upon the Blu-Ray/DVD release. I gotta admit, McGinty looks like he took my advice and REALLY doesn't want to be directing D-movie fare alongside Russel Mulcahy. This movie is shaping up to possibly be movie of the summer, that is, if Star Trek isn't as great as they say it is. Orci couldn't write a screenplay to save his ass.
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Yes the professionalism does indeed ooze for this film..I believe it will make Wolverine seem like something you will want to scrape off your shoe..Bale's greatness will indeed elevate this
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Planes have a bit of a hard time flying into cities without hitting buildings, bikes are fast, manueverable, and fuel-efficient, the physical structure of humans, which the traditional terminator is based upon is not made for high speeds such as cars or motorcycles. Skynet didn't nuke every city on earth, or else skynet would have had to destroy itself, therefore cities, small towns, and roads to access these places must still exist. This makes more sense than some idiotic assholes give it credit for. That is what distinguishes someone labelled a "hater" who uses moronic reasoning simply to fit this with their "i dont like new movie sequels" or "i didnt like charlies angels, so this director is ibcapable of making anything different" hate, from someone presenting thought-out, valid points as to why they don't like the design.
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this pg 13 terminator movie will suck. alucardvsdracula is right.
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You fucking little bitches with your little nuts. Give it a chance. Writing something off because it's not rated R (oooo rated R is so badass!) is the dumbest shit ever. Did you all see TDK? Pretty faggy huh? Pretty lame? There's not always a need for an R rating.
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Apr 28, 2009 8:20:54 PM CDT
Is anyone else seeing Sex In The City ads on the TB page?
by amy chasing
Mine say "Bigpond Movies" on them, which is an Australian ISP. Why are they advertising on an American site? Can they be removed please too? (the audio gets really annoying after a few times)
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Looks ridiculous. Like something out of a Heavy Metal movie. That said, the sentient terminator bikes is kinda stupid too, but probably makes for a cool action sequence. Basically, it's the same idea as the sentient cylon ships in BSG.
However, I am still looking forward to seeing this flick, PG-13 rating and all. I'm sure there will be a hard R Director's Cut, but they need to make some moolah by getting in the kiddies, so I don't blame 'em. Just because fanboys wanna see more gore,they don't care if it costs the producers $50 million at the boxoffice? Batman TDK was PG13 and that didn't hurt the storytelling or the box office. -
So how is it?
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isn't amateur. And I quote...
(2nd Bale, 4:20)"So I said to the prick,'Fucks sake man, you're amateur. McG, you got fucking something to say to this prick?'; and they, not having fucking anything to say, sateth their amateur fucking asses down before I fucking kicked them, and as a fucking professional I went back to work..no fucking break time needed."Friends...this quote makes me hopeful for our future in Him, I think that right there should be more than enough to put the believer and the non-believer alike right in their fucking place. Bale is with us..his fucking professional will ensure that this will not suck. -
Apr 28, 2009 9:06:51 PM CDT
F. MURRAY ABRAHAMS NOSTRILS! What a great idea!
by freds_balls_in_a_mason_jar
Terminators on bikes!
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I'm being seriously.
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OH SNAP!
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now die McG
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oh yes there are believers here tonight ...can I get an Amen..if I can't get an amen can I get a Ahem..If I can't get an Ahem can I borrow twenty dollars till payday.
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Apr 28, 2009 9:33:03 PM CDT
I hope I'm wrong but how the fuck do you make a PG13 Terminator?
by heyscot
DAMMIT. HOW do you make a PG13 Terminator?!?! The ONLY hope I HAVE for this is CHRISTIAN FUCKING BALE. But HOW do you MAKE a fucking PG13 TERMINATOR MOVIE?!?!?!?!!?!!?
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Apr 28, 2009 9:36:15 PM CDT
P.P.P.S. The only fucking hope is Christian Bale for a fucking P
by heyscot
Christian Bale is only ONE FUCKING MAN and he's up against MCG and a PG13 RATING. FUCK FUCK FUCK.
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Honestly, if you're going to buy into Robert Patrick's Terminator, then Terminator Bikes should not be a fucking stretch.
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Oh how Bale's words uplift mine soul and cleanse mine loins all dah dah dah-like!!!
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It's the TERMINATOR. I could LET GO of the fact that there WAS NO WINNER for the Vince Vaughan's Wild West Comedy Show contest for the funniest joke. I could even let go of Jar-Jar because when I was a kid I loved the Ewoks and at the heart of the Star Wars universe Ewoks are the hardest core motherfuckers *EVER* because they DECAPITATED fucking STORM TROOPERS and played DRUMS ON THEIR HEADS during the victory celebration. They would've never brought down the Death Star had it not been for the fucking Ewoks. BUT EWOKS WERE NOT RATED R IN THE WAY THEY WERE PRESENTED THIS WHOLE TIME. So either our society has decomposed enough such that a PG13 is the new R (and I point to The Dark Knight as a PG13 flick that should've been rated R), or the MPAA has turned over a different leaf or this is a FUCKING PG13 TERMINATOR MOVIE, the SAME FUCKING PG13 RATING GIVEN TO FUCKING "JUST ONE OF THE GUYS" FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK.
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I will be there opening night with my Bale Hymn book and sing the praises of McGezus..Oh sweet Terminator Salvation..I shall not want except to bask in the glory of a pg-13 Balefest..Oh Lordy
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Might I suggest handing out leaflets of the homepage of aintitbalenews.com in the lobby ... to spread the Good News. Here's my script:
"You've seen Terminator: Salvation. Now you can have true salvation, for the Lord Bale ranted for our sins so we might enter Heaven."
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Rant On. My brother Rant On.
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You know BSB..The aintitbalenews.com website is a pretty damn good read..It gives this website a run for its money and it is a helluva lot funnier..Harry better start to bring his "A" game to the table..
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End of story.
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its a bit goofy - the idea of a automated bike seems kinda interesting, but a terminator riding a bike seems a bit dumb...you'd think the machines would be able to design something that would be better than a 'human styled' motorcycle...not inspiring much confidence...
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Speilberg's War of the Worlds. He designed the tripods and other things.Terminator Salvation will be great, and we'll all be there opening weekend, so let's cut the crap. (and this is from somebody who was hoping for the R rating.)
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Yeah but YOU are in Oz, right? Telstra know where you live. Cookies.
And yes, it's driving me FUCKING INSANE. Not to mention every fucking time we reload or go to another AICN page the whole fucking thing downloads again whether we pause it or not, and eats up our monthly quota. Fuckers! -
Tangent necessary. CRANK 2. Please.
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Sorry...still not in the ballpark of the assrape that is the new STAR TREK, retconning the entire fucking series to date.
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There's a reason it's called concept art, moron. It can be good from the get go. Only Bale if professional enough to get it perfect the first time.
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...I don't give a flying fuck about this clusterfucked teenage mainstream trainwreck.Everyone younger than 15 will enjoy it, the rest (especially those TERMINATOR fans who watched the first two in theatres) will loathe it.
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of course it's PG-13. At is should be. It's for children.
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"Royale with cheese".
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I mean, it's some kind of magic trick. R makes film good. PG-13 makes them bad. It have nothing to do with direction, script, storytelling, editing, acting etc. We geeks are so much smarter than directors like McG. We understand all it takes for a movie to be good is an R label.
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think T4 will be good? And i really dont mean this in an argumentative way, im just really curious. I partly agree with you, the rating wont make the movie good. Your exampl was dead on dude, look at avp2, lots of blood and guts, but a pretty bad movie. Personally I think the trailers for T4 make it look interesting, maybe even good. However my concern is the talen involved in making this movie.
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but unlike some I dont think a terminater movie has to be made by him. Although i would have preferred it as imho he is the best action sci-fi director, and he puts so much of his passion into his films that a future war movie by him would have been amazing, but im quite willing to give anyone else a chance. Just dubious of McG...i remember when his name was shit on aicn talkbacks, funny how now he gets defended so passionatly. Im just curious are said defenders McG fans? Which of his movies do you like?
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respect to get the benefit of doubt by having a good/great track record in sci-fi. When did McG achieve this exactly?....though maybe thats just me....
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something completely fresh and original, rather than doing another remake/sequal/reboot/prequal, let every other genre filmaker do that. Cameron is at least taking a huge risk.
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. Let other directors play with the ideas/concepts/characters/designs created by others...
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He's trying.
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First few people in the industry who have seen the movie near completion, says it's basically Aliens meet T1 + some T2 action, no nod is paid to T3. Trust me, T4 is going to be the dream Future War movie we all wanted to see, there's even a bit of blood and gore to go with it -- it's just an extremely hard PG-13 movie, they aimed for R, but MPAA put on PG-13 because it's the way it is today, R is for horror like Hostel or SAW.
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...and PG-13 is for selling toys like the ones that appeared on here a few days back.
Hulk fists are fine, but T-600 fists? Stick on metal-under-the-skin?
There must have been something to convince Bale to do this and McG could still prove better outside of the shitty camp re-make genre, but the toys freak me out - studio execs could rip the soul out of this one... -
Apr 29, 2009 7:40:35 AM CDT
Bale, Cage and Statham should always have a movie in cinemas
by spandau belly
If there is a day when at least one of those guys doesn't have something playing in the cinemas that situation should be rectified with an immediate re-release of Con Air with Bale edited in to the John Cusak part and Statham as Cyrus The Virus.
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And the world is a better place because of it.
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And so it was, that our lord taught us how to pray. According to the scriptures, beholden in the great works of Lost Jarv 6:9-13 and Danny Glover's_Dickblood 11:2-4, our master instructed us on how to worship him properly:
Dear Christian, who art in movies,
Hallowed be thy temper.
Thy member comes.
Thy will be done on earth, with fists,
As it is in Libria.
Give us this day our daily Bale.
And forgive us our weaknesses,
Yet embolden us to those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
But deliver us from amateurs.
Amen. -
A kid and his Terminator -- yeah right, the only saving grace of T2 was the action, and it was PG-13 lite action, LOTR trilogy is PG-13 and more violent than anything in T2. T4 will RULE THE EARTH.
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Even as a tot watching battlestar galactica, it struck me as odd that there would be robots in a cockpit flying fighters: that they should just make the fighters as robots. It bugged me for ages, and I had a full on nerdgasm when they corrected this in the new series. The Terminators themselves, the rubber skinned/cyborg Terminators were to be used for infiltration as has been noted, but the given industrial production facilities skynet would create many cheap robots for specific purposes. One of these would be "killcycles" designed to patrol the highways, killing any human that they see or "call in dead" when they are destroyed. They would be stupid as roombas, but manufactured by the thousands. I want to love this film.
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Sure, it looks odd to see the metal skeleton on the bike. But the fact remains that, in James Cameron's TERMINATOR universe, they do ride bikes. How could anyone say otherwise?
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Sad part he will get credit for this and be given another movie (Where they don't hold his hand) and fuck that one up. Bale will be great but I doubt this movie will be epic in any way.
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Apr 29, 2009 8:41:06 AM CDT
Conceptually, I don't care if they ride bikes or have wheels...
by jdanielp
...as long as it makes complete sense within the movie.
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JAMES CAMERON'S AVATAR + NO BALE = BOX OFFICE DISASTER OF EPIC SCALE UNMATCHED SINCE THE SINKING OF THE BISMARK. PLUS THE USUAL SCARRED KNUCKLES FROM CAMERON TAKING IT OUT ON HIS WIFE.
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JDanielP - 100 percent right. Terminators LOVE bikes. It's clearly part of their programming. Those new motorbike Terminators are the envy of every other Terminator in Skynet.
JAMESCAMERON_STRANGLES_A_BITCH (can't believe im typing that, AICN is a strange, strange place) you're also right. When T4 box office goes through the roof he'll probably have a Hitler bunker style meltdown. If I was his wife I'd be terrified of going out the same way as Eva Braun. -
just kidding, May The Lord Bale forgive me......
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A hard PG-13? I don't think so. This movie will RULE THE EARTH? Not gonna happen. Yeah I do agree with you that an R rating is for horror movies, someone should tell that to Mr. Sam Raimi ...Drag Me To Hell--PG-13..ugh...
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Apr 29, 2009 11:28:54 AM CDT
"Planes have a bit of a hard time flying into cities without hit
by royston lodge
So blow up the buildings. Problem solved.
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I for one have sold all my worldly possesions and am anxiously awaiting the return of Bale.
The only things I have kept are a pair of socks and some clean skivees..Only so I have a new pair to wear after I shit my pants while basking in the glory that can only be BALE in T4-Salvation.
Stuntcock Mike and DannyGloversDickblood your shrine
known as aintitBalenews.com is right up there with mans greatest monuments to the gods..The pyramids tremble in shame when compared to the wonders of aintit balenews.com
I can only wait till the return of BALE but I can be with him always thanks to your website..Sweet McGezuz,Thank the Lord BALE that his apostles have seen fit to
praise him. OH Lordy I pray...
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Apr 29, 2009 11:57:28 AM CDT
I'm not defending McGinty here, I equate this movie as being....
by pissed off and bitter
A wildcard baseball team who made it into the World Series and by some stroke of luck, won the thing in six or seven games. The only thing is they aren't able to repeat within the next year or the next few years if at all, thus they go down as a team who, by a fluke, won the championship, i.e. the Anaheim Angels. I think the same thing happened with this movie. I think somehow McGinty made a good or even great film by luck, or maybe he just had a good supporting crew. Whether or not he gets respect depends on if he can make a second great film just like a team who can win a second World Series back to back or within a few years of winning, i.e. Boston Red Sox
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Apr 29, 2009 1:03:22 PM CDT
JDanielP, I already tried telling people that Terminators always
by son of a butch
but everyone here is too busy ranting to read what anyone else wrote. Or to watch the first two movies, apparently.
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this movie has been rated UP for uber professional. Not Recommended for amateurs, fucking amateurs, pregnant or nursing women or unprofessionals.
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pop quiz dip shit, which former rated R series neutered down to pg-13 did better - die hard 4 , alien vs. predator? give up? answer: no one gives a shit because they suck so much cock. here's another one - what he fuck kind of action is this bullshit going to have? instead of robots shooting the shit out of people, now they just break their arms and terminator toys for children will pour out of them like they're fucking pinata's ? don't answer with your mouth full, i know mcg's dick is in your pie hole, but the next time you come up for air, tell that fucking boob to get a real name.
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Enough! It's fucking distracting!Also, does James Cameron Chokes A Bitch = Dickblood's new alias? Fuck off, Avatar will outgross Titanic! Terminator Salvation will only be a moderate success! Cameron chokes no bitches, he is always a gentleman. That's why he gives the ladies the option of either spitting or swallowing!
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Bale shit played out. Not likely..
Wait and see, You Turdontherun can only hope to become as worthy as Bale shit. Seek T-4 Salvation while you still can at aintitbalenews.com then when you have seen the fucking professional light you can come back and thank me. You unprofessional asshole -
Its true..He says it is the same thing he used to cure the dreaded SARS virus..Bale semen..President Obama now mobilizing WHO to jerk off Bale to get enough of the elixar to cure entire world..
Bale says he should be able enough to supply said quantity with just one session..story still developing -
This movie is not inspiring much confidence in me. This McG director is, as far i can tell, a very bad call. Not even the casting of Lord Bale and the fact the Mightly Jonathan Nolan re-wrote the script gives me much confidence. I hope to be proved wrong but... i don't know, i don't know! I have a bad feeling about this.
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No need to worry so much..I mean things could be worse.The world as we know it could be coming to an end..Rampant crime and disease could be upon us. The chances of all of this happening at once are nowhere near the chances of McGezuz messing up this Balefest..
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Bale is god, but i'm affraid even he cannot have enough power to propel this movie to the high standards of Cameron's Terminators. Or even Terminator 3. Yes, i'm that skeptical.But then again, there's the lovely Bryce Dallas Howard in it, isn't she? Still... man, i don't know, i'm terribly skeptical! Bale is great, but man, a God can only do so much!
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I agree a heavenly sight indeed.
She can only add further to the opus that will be T-4 Salvation.
If we a deemed fortunate enough for the Trilogy that is upon us
she can only add to the splendor of it all..You have excellent taste
in women my friend as the Bryce is indeed captivating. Now all you need is the faith in Bale and you shall be complete..No longer an unprofessional amatuer but a Brother in Bale.. -
Bryce is the only thing that fucking Oppie ever did right in his entire life. I fucking hate him and the movies he makes, but i praise the day he decided to have a fuck and out came that utter darling of a woman. His cum was blessed that day. which does prove that from mediocrity can sometimes raise true excelency. A fucking (literally) miracle, if ever there was one.
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You are correct on all counts sir.
Bryce is a beauty..Those eyes are truly the window to what I'm sure is a beautiful soul. She was the only redeaming thing in "The lady in the Water". What a fine woman. -
I do have to admit though. I have a soft spot for two of Opie's movies. Apollo 13 and Frost/Nixon
I thought Frank Langella was superb as Nixon. All the rest eh! -
Holy shit this is uber-lame.
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...house sized "Superterminator" (for lack of a proper name). Looks too much like a Transformer, and practically speaking it makes zero sense. At least with Cameron, his sense of showbiz wonder was always balanced with an underlying scientific plausibility.
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The first images are the stupidest ideas I have seen for a long time. It is even worse like combining the liquid terminator designs with real machine parts like for the third movie. James Cameron put a lot of thinking into the designs but the followers seem to give a fuck. I mean... what the hell are they thinking by designing human like motorbikes? What is the purpose? The only reason some terminators look like humans are to infiltrate human bases.
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