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Long Live The New New Flesh? VIDEODROME remake in development...
Hey folks, Harry here... In 1983, I did not see VIDEODROME. That was after my parents' divorce, and I'm relatively certain that it didn't play the nearest theaters to me in Wichita Falls, Texas at that time. However, when it hit HBO - I saw it at like 3 in the morning via Satellite on the Ranch I was living and I remember it freaked my shit right out!
David Cronenberg's VIDEODROME is as classic as they come. James Woods' performance is so freaky, the effects felt absolutely filthy. The concept of the New Flesh and the interactivity with video was mind-blowing to me as a kid - and watching that film today... It packs an even stronger punch because you realize just how pussy most of what we get today is by comparison.
So - it should put you at ease to know that Universal has snatched up the remake rights - and that Ehren Kruger (writer on ARLINGTON ROAD, THE RING remake, THE SKELETON KEY, THE BROTHERS GRIMM and this summer's TRANSFORMERS: REVENGE OF THE FALLEN) is updating and most likely under the delusion of improving material that most likely will be... what? I kinda can't imagine what a big version of VIDEODROME would be intended to be.
Certainly - it'll forego the brilliant and innovative practical effects in lieu of the latest and greatest of digital effects, but will it be as sweaty and nasty and lurid as the original? Will it even touch on the psycho-sexual overtones?
I suppose all we can do is sit back and watch what happens to this classic material - and hope that a director comes aboard that has the brilliant imagination and the sack that Cronenberg had when he made the original.
In the Variety article by Michael Fleming - he mentions that both Denzel and Tom Cruise will each be making at least one film before they work together on Cronenberg's THE MATARESE CIRCLE - so I wonder if David would be interested in reapproaching the New Flesh given the 26 years that have passed since this film. Honestly - that's pretty much the only way I can conceive of being rabid for this remake. Meanwhile, Enjoy these...
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When do we get the new Repo Man starring Zach Efron?
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YOU KNOW U WANT IT!
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Apr 27, 2009 1:32:30 AM CDT
Wow, Hollywood really is creatively bankrupt as well as fiscally
by metaluna
This is pathetic. Cronenberg must be spinning in his gra... oh wait.
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I usually don't give a shit if they remake movies, but VIDEODROME?! PLEASE GOD FUCKING NO.
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I have foreseen it.
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Apr 27, 2009 1:39:51 AM CDT
Hey i know of this good director that would be perfect for this!
by dailysportspages
David Cronenberg
Starring: Viggo Mortensen
Would have been perfect if it came out in the middle of June and it had a bit in there about the fear some people are having concerning the new switchover to HD. There are some conspiracy theorists that believe that HDTV is going to be used to influence our brainwaves or something.
This movie could have played into those fears at the perfect moment.
Missed opportunity.
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Hey, Hollywood, hire some new writers.
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Well the original was all TV and videotapes and confusing video with reality, so I assume a new version would be about people hooked and brainwashed by the Net... but that's Existenz.
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i mean a cutoff for a remake has to have the original at least 30 years ffs.
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Ugh.
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Videodrome in pg-13 =/
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Face it, the original Videodrome is old timey and by the numbers. I think that with an edgy new director and some fresh teen faces the original concept can be brought into the 21st century. In fact, if the cards are played right- this could turn into a powerhouse franchise with many blockbuster sequels. The original had pop star Blondie in it, I think that a remake would do well by casting a current pop star... you know, stick with the theme. Maybe Miley wants to branch out? I'm thinking that Ephron kid could also nail this project to the wall, just put it right over the top. In fact... this could set a precedent and he could slip right into the role of Seth Brundle down the line. Cronenberg can't complain, it's not like The Fly was his idea to begin with.
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...but we can have yet another remake of yet another 80's also-ran.Says it all, really. Who's directing, Rob fucking Zombie?
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This remake will totally fucking suck, no matter who directs and who stars.You heard it here first.
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And Josh Swaney will be great in this movie.
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My thoughts exactly. Oddly when I saw the rss feed header, I thought it was going to be talk of an ultimate Criterion Blu-ray release...one can dream.
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...then how about 'Krull', 'Hawk The Slayer', Warlock', 'Highlander' or 'Nightbreed'?Any one of those would benefit from a CGI brush-up and a few quids worth of set-building.
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and leave this the fuck alone. They cannot improve upon it and Hollywood/Kruger would be too afraid to go as far as the original went. This can't do anything but fail.
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I think he was being sarcastic. I fucking hope he was, anyway!
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Yet another piece of shit idea from what appears to be a city full of idiots. Seriously? We all know, even people who aren't anywhere close to the fucking business know there are thousands of original scripts either sitting on shelves or on people's computers at home just WAITING to be made.
ORIGINAL IDEAS. For fuck's sake. Will this obsession with trying to remake everything ever made EVER STOP? You can't tell me there's not at least a couple hundred $100 million dollar scripts in Hollywood that haven't been lensed yet. Makes me sick.
On the other hand, why can't fucking Lucas sell out some more and let some good directors handle remakes of the STAR WARS films, or at the very least, shoot the final three films... Fuck I hate Hollywood and this business sometimes -
Vin Diesel in 'The Wraith', Zac Efron in 'Risky Business' and Megan Fox in 'Mannequin'.Shoot me. Shoot me now.
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Starring teenage whores and zero gore. Can't wait.
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i seriously hope you are joking. all of your suggestions go the opposite way of what real moviemaking is about.
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Back in the early 90s, I became obsessed with a remix to the song Children by EMF (the Battle of the Minds of North Amerikkka). When I rented Videodrome, I was surprised to find the source of the audio samples for the remix.
"The battle of the minds of North America will be fought on the video screen... the video drome...."
I don't remember much of the movie now (it's been some 15 years now) but I do recall some rather strange masochistic intimate scenes between James Woods and Deborah Harry (who I'd previously only known from her appearance in The Muppet Show... shocking alternate side to her in this round). -
they'll remake remakes and it'll be hollywood's end. i hope...
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Or is it some bullshit internet youtube plot?
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Sorry, but newbs don't see the potential of this. A new spin with a creepy sexual vibe and seduction up the ying yang. I'm down. Make it happen.
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This is the worst idea I have heard of in some time. The very idea that someone would attempt to remake Cronenberg's singular and prescient vision is nausea- inducing. "Videodrome" is a fucking masterpiece and no one should touch it. The only way this remake and reboot bullshit will end is if everyone stops buying tickets to the goddamn things. Anyone who cares about film should boycott this bullshit.
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you know hollywood will make it happen. probably with Britney Spears as Deborah Harry...
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Just do Casablanca and get it over and done with.
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James Woods was note perfect. If they are gonna remake this I'd rather Cronenberg do it himself. With a decent effects budget I think it's worth remaking, I think the material is as pertinent as ever.
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VHS is dead. And DVDs are soon joining them.
If you want to make a movie "inspired" by VIdoedrome, just like how Rolling Thunder and Hardcore were inspired by the Searchers, I am all for it. Just have it about a website or internet channel and change the name. DON'T just slap the videodrome title on it so you can ride someone else's success.
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Hollywood doesn't need to constantly do remakes. Be like Swaney - do something all by yourself.
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Moneygrabbing, child molesting, coke-sniffing, cocksucking, STD sharing motherfuckers is what they are. It's time that place got cleaned up with honorable people. People who won't do the things I described above and people that care about entertaining AND making money instead of only making money.
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..To include nano-tech and make it action-y. Bloody Disgusting has more info, than AICN. Sorry. And this is a BAD idea. Don't fuck with Cronenberg. It is unecessary.
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...wishing they could have that plus one after their movie names so they seem more important.
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Cronenberg's work is pretty singular and Videodrome is one of his absolute best movies. I cannot conceive of anything good coming from this remake. I'll happily just pop in the original and let Cronenberg's crazed imagination take hold.
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...the only person that could tackle this would be Aronofsky. obviously it shouldn't be done at all, but if it had to then he would be my choice.
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Remake gripes aside, Videodrome would make one hell of an ARG. Bring in youtube, twitter, myspace, all that- I'm squicked out already!
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Cronenberg is a genius. I can't imagine another filmmaker coming along with an ounce of the same ambition and visual tour de force that David had in his heyday of moviemaking.
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this is absolute BULLSHIT. Enough, Hollywood. Grow some balls and get some NEW IDEAS.
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DIE. DIE. DIE. DIE. DIE. DIE. DIE.
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another boring remake
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Kind of late since I've (been moaning) bemoaning that cause since day one. You are the reason they REMAKE garbage, RUIN transformers, remake all the MARVEL titles, and shit on sticks for your pedigree-less palettes, but this one has some shitty quality that is interesting to remake. Not the obvious remakes that are strictly by the book. This has potential depending on the spin. Get with it. Most of the time you guys are wrong. You cheer shit and shit on quality.
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Imagine his reaction to the VCR vagina growing on his chest.
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what a shit idea.
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It never occurred to me until now, but they are inherently stupid. The original exists, why make it again? Bizarre.
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since the original film dealt with vhs tapes and human with vcr recorder opening on their chest...
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How about something we haven't seen before?
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Are they gonna remake Battle Beyond The Stars?
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No, that's not true.
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I thought: 'Get over it. Don't watch it.'
But this: ...
When are they goign to remake The Bible?
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Why don't they instead re-make something like Dreamscape. It was a creepy movie with a good concept that could definitely benefit from a remake with todays technological advances.
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If anyone wants to watch Videodrome then they can catch it anytime on one of the movie channels. The remake will cast Will Smith in James Woods role and be filtered for the PG13 audience. Completely pointless and a waste of anybodys time.
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"That's KING Vidiot for you!"
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what?
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http://www.misterpoll.com/poll s/431436 To see if Harry should step down from this site.
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That film is so Cronenberg it makes no sense - will surely be another non-event like Psycho remake.
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wwhhhyyyyyyy!!!!!
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Cronenberg essentially did his own update with eXistenZ - which wasn't as good but i still like despite Jude Law. And no studio update of Videodrome can be good because what made Videodrome great in the first place are the first things a studio would excise from this one. The original is insanely freaky and disturbing. It was one of the most original films i had, and still have, seen. Fantastically ironic that so original a picture is being remade by people with zero imagination!
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Ever.
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Fuk dem all.
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Dr. Brian O'blivion, rated PG-13! Da durp da durp da tweedly durp da durp!
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Yet another Cronenbergian remake. Wasn't David Goyer attached to write and direct it?
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I agree completely regarding Existenz.
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with Viggo in this then they can all go to hell.
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It will undoubtably be an artistic as well as a financial failure. Since they're going the web/digital route, we're going to get a rehash of ideas already used in everything from The Matrix to Fear.Com. Who are the mongoloids that greenlight stuff like a Videodrome remake. Just beacuse you own the rights to a cool title (that is now not cool for a new film since "Video" is dead) doesn't mean you need to make a new movie with that title and some of the films original ideas.
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Existenz is Cronenberg's reworking of the same ideas behind Videodrome for the digital age.
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Long live the Criterion DVD
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The bathhouse scene will get the audience ducking in their seats.
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To be named Crush.
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With the Olsen Twins!
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With Russel Brand as M.
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Remake Jaws, The Exorcist, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Back To the Future, Blade Runner, Time Bandits,The Lost Boys, Goonies, Stand By Me, Gremlins... oh don't forget Beat Street and Breakin'
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This movie was so timely, any remake would be pointless.
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I really hope this doesn't get made. We had to watch this in a film class this semester, and its pretty disturbing and interesting stuff, very forward thinking, but its themes and message arent terribly relevant any more. They are just gonna change all the tech stuff and the "signal" to cell phones or some retarded shit, and itll be mega crap. This shouldn't be allowed.
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as they come." Thanks for the hyperbole, Harry (sans analysis). The movie absolutely tanked at the boxoffice; died a horrible death. Cronenberg's plot/images were entirely too nebulous for the mainstream. Exempting the director's admirers, critics were not impressed. The "flesh" subtext challenged audiences--and, actually, that's a good thing. But, bottom line, why would a studio back a remake of a boxoffice dud? By the way, VIDEODROME was among the films broacast during the pioneering days of the Sci-Fi Channel (butchered the hell out of it).
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So we (the audience) Finally get to find out what pissed off to the shark in his childhood to the point where he attack people when they get in the water.
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I'm not sure a bloody, throbbing, fleshy DVD or Blu-Ray disc is going to have the same effect.
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I bet the main character finds a secret you-tube for snuff films, and goes on a quest to find the server. www.google.com/snuff?
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comes complete with bundled sherwood forest, casablanca and moriarty programs.
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is if they got Takashi Miike to direct (reading this story has really depressed me).
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Can you imagine actually trying to get an ORIGINAL idea any funding in Hollywood nowadays? The future of filmaking is online and independent. Prosumer 1080p cameras, Adobe Creative Suite and home-made steadycams for the win. Hollywood (as its been said here many times) is simply out of ideas, and soon they'll find that people would rather see original works in their amazing HD home theaters then spend $40 to go sit in a sticky multiplex seat and see another piece of re-made garbage. Even if it IS in 3D.
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I'm happy.
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It tanked at the box office, died a horrible death,,,WTF? It's a cult classic. No one who still appreciates it gives a crap about how much money it made back in the day. It has a Criterion edition DVD, it has legions of Cronenberg fans. It does not matter how much money it made, so I don't understand your argument. Anyways, a remake will be a disaster. This film is a product of it's time. Any reboot will no doubt lose the teeth of the original. If they do a PG-13 version I will literally pull a gun out of my stomach and go Postal. jk. Videodrome joke. LONG LIVE THE OG NEW FLESH!
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Just... bad. I hope it doesn't happen.
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Apr 27, 2009 9:43:22 AM CDT
Wow What a total coincedence ..I watched the Criterion version
by mr dark
last night..The extras were great and the transfer fantastic..I can't believe anyone would try and touch this classic.I can only hope that everyone not get close enough to the remake to have the shit smell rub off on them. oops to late..
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...that you fucking RETARDS don't get that prunkhaft is taking the piss. Jeez, you're dumb! Oh, and Harry, you are an illiterate fat fuck!
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Stupid fucking people.
VIDEODROME was made at a time when video was just being exploited/popularized in the forms of home video, cable tv, porn, network sex & violence, video art and MTV.
It was such a product of it’s time a nightmare version of what all that stuff poured into a blender and what it could become.
Now that time is over.
A remake is as irrelevant as a remake of “The Net” for Christ’s sake.
This is beyond un-original.
Dumb fucks.
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This must be a joke, must be.
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Of the 90 something posts here, only about 10 aren't needless inspid whining about Hollywood remaking movies.
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Seriously, think of the films Cronenberg did for (or distributed by) major studios. Would Universal or Fox be so ready to market and release such films today? Not under an indie label? They'd be looking for the teen angle, or the hook..We should appreciate that they exist at all.
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Universal should make it a sequel, instead of yet another pointless remake. Maybe they can call it "DVDdrome" or "BluRaydrome" or "Internetdrome"? The same concepts from the original can be used today.
I can see this new movie using the old Canadian rumours of mind-controlling television from right-wing extremists in the United States being used. Also, the concept of brain tumor-inducing television programs can be used. Back in the 1940s, some people believed television signals caused brain tumors. I think they still do, which is why they are tearing down the Analog towers.
It would be an enlightened idea if they used that to create another conspiracy theory that right-wing extremists (the Republicans) are creating devices to control our minds, because they can't win elections based on their ideas. Well, they can't win 69% of the elections, which is Obama's current approval rating. That means that 31% of Americans are still idiots.
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is such a great set. From the packaging to the amazing features like that roundtable discussion. Mmmm going to pop in disc 2 now.
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Apr 27, 2009 10:57:41 AM CDT
This one is the One Cronenberg Film that could never be improved
by adrian marcato
Videodrome is a symptom of its era, ahead of its time, and brutal, vicious, fear inducing imagery. Torture porn owes alot to Videodrome, but Videodrome is a film with much larger ideas than masichism and sadism. In fact those elements are scattered in every character, but as a larger theme of mind manipulation. IT took the idea of the LSD reprogramming trials and made that concept work in the form of invisible broadcast signals. No way will I ever watch this remake, there's just no reason.
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The remake even gets close to Cronenberg's original. The original appeared at a time when psychologists, researchers and parents were getting really paranoid about how much time their kids spent watching TV and, more importantly, playing videogames in dark, sweaty, mysterious arcades. They were truly concerned about what this new "connection" between reality and the fantasy world of the screen would produce. It used to be truly creepy walking into those places to find rows of people hypnotized by flickering screens. Like they'd lost their minds and sense of place in the here and now.
That's why Videodrome was such a masterstroke. It really drilled down into that paranoia and hit a nerve when nobody else was tackling it on that level. Sure there were videogame movies, but those usually either just glossed over the surface with "hero kid" winning the big prize for being the best in the end. Or became huge 90 minute commercials (Cloak and Dagger comes immediately to mind) to sell a pile of games and systems.
By contrast, Cronenberg knew where the hot nerve was and how to hit it. He crafted a story that cultivated horror from the paranoia. And he's so damned good at doing that. He knows that real terror comes from within, not from what goes bump in the night.
I doubt that in today's world, now that we're so awash in technology and media and we know what the consequences have been, the new adaptation would have the same impact.
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Fincher or Del Toro would be ideal, but they would never touch it. I could see the studio going with someone like Tarsem. At least, the visuals would be interesting.
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... doesn't work with LCD screens. The hallucinogenic properties of the Videodrome signal can only be transmitted via big cathode-ray tubes in solid oak housings. ;-)
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The same guy that did the voice-overs for the Transformers commercials in the 80's? Pretty sure it is, its very distinct.
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even in the 90's you had innovation..now is all post-post-post-modernism...a copy of a copy of copy. fucking depressing.
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Put "old" movies back into the theaters..i'd PAY!
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in Hollywood is dead. The only other guy i can think of with any left is Ellison. After he's gone, that's it people!
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Yes, this is a town bereft of ideas -- from the marketing people now in charge. Blame them. And every time you send their ads out or click on them they get more powerful and dictate this awful trend of remaking MOVIES THAT BOMBED at the box-office. Nevermind that VIDEODROME is a classic that can not be duplicated, coming at the start of the first videotape age, and was never meant to be a box-office behemoth, the idea that the suits (and lazy talent who are complicit) can make this into some sort of hit "franchise" speaks for itself. It's why film artists are leaving this town in droves.
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Long live the new flesh? Wrong. Remake of this BRILLIANT and insane film can be summed up thusly -- LONG LIVE THE NEW SUCK. Although... if Cronenberg decided to revisit Videodrome, I'd be all for it.
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Is the feel of an underground culture it provides, and also the perverted side of the characters. And the allegorical nature of the narrative to the ways the medias are developing. All ideas which will probably be sacked in the remake and replaced with MORE BLOOD!!!! Because we all know that great horror films are all about gore and jump scares...
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...with 40% collegen and 60% silicone. BaDoom Bing!
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Long live the new old!
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Aren't there also remakes of Scanners, The Brood, and even Rabid (or it could be Shivers, can't remember) in the works? Fucking hell, that's as bad as John Carpenter getting all his classics re-made by shitty hacks - worse, actually, since Cronenberg is such a singular and unique director.This re-make will be utter shite. All the psycho-sexual content will be stripped out (cause apparently we can't even deal with a couple of tits in this day and age of cinematic weak sauce, never mind sado-masochistic bondage and belly vaginas), they will make the narrative linear and obvious, and they will get some boring straight laced actor like leonardo di caprio to take the lead, instead of a quirky weirdo like James Woods. all in all, a recipe for celluloid cat vomit.However, it's worth keeping in mind that most of these remakes will never even get off the ground; greedy producers just like to snap up the options to make them, but don't always follow through.Leave Cronenberg alone, you vile cunts!
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She's the hottest woman of that era.
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Thank you for being the board Mommy. You really put us in our places.
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Is that where men sleep?
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My whole thing with remakes is, why remake something that is already basically perfect the way it is?
Some of the greatest movies in history have been remakes, but they had a point: The remake improved upon the original in some way, usually because technology allowed the new filmmakers to do things not possible in the original. Case in point: BEN HUR. There was a silent version of Ben Hur that had bee a tremendous success, but cinemascope, sound, and various other advances allowed Wyler to adapt the book in a much more spectacular way than had ever been possible before. Thus, not a waste of money or time. So it was a good remake.
Something like THE OMEGA MAN/I AM LEGEND was a good contender for a remake, because both of the original film versions left a lot to be desired. The Will Smith version, of course, was a huge disappointment, but I don't fault Hollywood for thinking that story was a solid remake contender for a number of reasons.
VIDEODROME, however, is a classic work of pop art, and more importantly, a product of its era. Unless the new film is somehow going to be as culturally relevant as the original, which I highly doubt, then what is the point? We all know it is going to be a fucking watered-down PG-13 piece of shit that might follow the concept of the original but will be totally devoid of any of the subtext.
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Now I would watch that. I watched that movie and was so distracted by how horrid Stephen Lack's performance was. Easily the most atrocious acting I have seen onscreen. The plot was interesting and the brief visual HOLY SHIT moments made it worth watching, but I'll be damned if Stephen Lack didn't stop it from being a "good" movie.
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Apr 27, 2009 1:22:34 PM CDT
I hate to be an 'ol copy & paster, but the Criterion disc featur
by skimn
Forging the New Flesh, a new half-hour documentary featurette by filmmaker Michael Lennick about the creation of Videodrome’s video and prosthetic makeup effects
Effects Men, a new audio interview with special makeup effects creator Baker and video effects supervisor Lennick
Bootleg Video: the complete footage of Samurai Dreams and seven minutes of transmissions from “Videodrome,” presented in their original, unedited form with filmmaker commentary
Fear on Film, a 26-minute roundtable discussion from 1982 between filmmakers Cronenberg, John Carpenter, John Landis, and Mick Garris...Damn! I heading to Barnes & Noble right after work and picking one up. -
After the Bottin and Baker double slam dunk of The Howling and American Werewolf in London, I was all hyped up (back in middle school) to watch "Videodrome"... But when I finally saw it, something seemed half baked... both the story flow and the effects and even the music... it was almost there... Years later, "Existenz" did get the Videodrome vibe right! The only way this remake would be good is if it makes the victims and scope of it more mainstream/relatable and makes the technology more applicable to the current "iphone"
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It's what I live for. Perhaps you would like me to wash your dick for you, too, you little shit.
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POW!! Remake accomplished!!
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I totally agree. Woods' character attempting to break into the whole perverted subculture, being warned away at every turn, then finding he'd become an unwitting test subject when it was too late. Fucking great. The concept of the "new flesh" and how we were being not just mentally, but physically transformed by the electronic media we consumed. Awesome.
Videodrome is one of my favourite horror movies, not because the effects are particularly good or because it gives a lot of great scares. But because it makes you think about how susceptible the mind is. How easily we can be led, changed. How seductive it can be to give into things like torture, perversion, depravity (granted, a very subjective thing)
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Leave that genius alone.
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Well, I can understand following The Howling And American Werewolf, you'd be disappointed. My brother and I saw it in a near empty theater, and afterwards looked at each other and said, "What the fuck was that??" We liked it, but it was beyond our expectations.
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Shia Lebouf to play Viggo's mafia man. Dakota Fanning will take over Naomi Watts' role, and Vince Cassel's character will be donned by Channing Tatum. Brett Ratner to direct.
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And then the guy fucking EXPLODES. I hate Ehren Kruger a lot, so of course he is scripting this...
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get it... rabid... cue akward silence
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The only way I think the remake will even touch the original if it stars the infamous Paul F. Little as Max Renn in today's adult industry.
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Seriously folks. We shouldn't be remaking masterpieces. Only remake films that would benefit from being remade.
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studio head that went on this site and is trying to convince people it's ok that Hollywood continues to show how many talentless people work for them and in return they shovel shit in our faces and tell us it's entertainment. This idea is really bad and shouldn't happen at all. Thanks again you pathetic Hollywood weasels.
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Relax, bro--I agress with you, a VIDEODROME remake would be pointless. I'm just curious why a film, that was a commercial flop, would prompt a remake; this is no reflection of the film's content or longevity. In the event that boxoffice losers are on the remake venue, I'm sure that George Lucas will be pitching HOWARD THE DUCK. And I do think the word "classic" is often dropped with trivial abandon (a TV commentor recently referred to ABBOTT AND COSTELLO IN THE FOREIGN LEGION as a classic. Yep). "Classic" (CITIZEN KANE) and "cult classic" (LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS) are significantly different phylums; does VIDEODROME qualify for either classification? It's all subjective. But if a film challenges an audience, it's not a failure. It deserves preservation. Cronenberg always challenges, evn in more mainstream films like THE FLY (a record number of walkouts...not a bad thing). And the aforementioned CITIZEN KANE, disputably "the best film ever made," was not a boxoffice blockbuster (thanks to Mr. Wm. R. Hearst).
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Because the Beyonce film was number 1 at the Box Office this weekend Sony pictures has confirmed that a remake is in the works.
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they need to keep it in the 80s..no wait FUCK REMAKES
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actively looking for ideas...sad and pathetic
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Videodrome was basically a film about the fear of a new technology: that being video. In order for them to update it they would have to make it about Blu-Ray or the internet. And fear of the internet movies are a dime a dozen these days. No reason to remake this film, at all. There are thousands unknown screenwriters out there with original screenplays. No excuse for this bullshit!
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...this project will be dead and no one will ever remember that they talked about doing a remake.
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Bring back the original cast and have them train new recruits. Then, they all get sent into space again.
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What happened to 'Last House on the Left'? That went nowhere.
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Apr 27, 2009 3:43:21 PM CDT
I have changed my mind - I can see how a Videodrome remake could
by continentalop
God have mercy on my soul, I love the original film, but I figured out how to make a remake work and be relevant: the porn business is going south because of oversaturation, internet piracy and because it has basically broken every taboo so there is no more boundaries to break, so a porn producer has to find a new gimmick he can make money off of. Enter something like the original Videodrome - a kind of porn he has never seen before, graphic but not as bad as some stuff; but it causes people who see it to react in ways never experienced before. It is the savior of his mini-porn empire, something that will make people crave to see it. However, like the original, the people who are making it have a sinister motive.
The movie can deal with themes like how we have been desensized to what is shocking, including sex and violence, and the how the internet can spread imagines that many find tastless but others look as entertainment (like beheading’s in Iraq, or how people can pretty much look up any sexual act as home). It also can touch upon how the internet can pass along hateful and dangerous ideas, and the entire thing about Renn transforming and mutating can be looked upon as the ultimate computer “virus”.<
However, I still say don’t call it Videodrome. Just cal it Drome or something completely . Have it be the spiritual remake or sequal to Videodrome, like how the original Dawn of the Dead worked off ideas from Night of the Living Dead or how No Way Out was a new look at The Big Clock, but don’t try to usurp the original by giving it the same name and a watered down version of the same plot.
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However, I still say don’t call it Videodrome. That is Cronenberg's movie. Just cal it Drome or something completely . Have it be the spiritual remake or sequal to Videodrome, like how the original Dawn of the Dead worked off ideas from Night of the Living Dead or how No Way Out was a new look at The Big Clock, but don’t try to usurp the original by giving it the same name and a watered down version of the same plot.
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Going by their take listed on Box Office Mojo (and the wisdom that a film should make three times it's budget in theaters to be considered a hit): Death Race, The Invasion, The Stepford Wives, The Hitcher, The Heartbreak Kid, The Wicker Man, Black Christmas, Fun With Dick and Jane, Assault on Precint 13, The Fog, The Manchurian Candidate, Walking Tall, The Ladykillers, The In-Laws, Willard, The Time Machine, Rollerball, Solaris---borderline cases (may have been saved by DVD) 3:10 to Yuma, The Longest Yard, King Kong, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Halloween.
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"Videodrome" in the 21st Century? Only if it's directed by Chris Cunningham. And even THEN…it's pretty risky.
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Would be The Hills Have Eyes, Dawn of the Dead, 3:10 to Yuma, and The Departed. So 4 films out of 50 or so.
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Never cast Nicole Kidman.
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When a non-remake, non-comic book, non-based on something else film comes out they have almost zero idea how to market it. I think this is why a lot of good films go unseen, and we get so many remakes, based on comics/videogames/board game films. I think there is talent out there to put out some good original material, but the marketing will stink when you rely on these studio marketers that haven't got an original idea to save them.
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That sounds like a good pitch; it's a good way to brainstorm a riff on the original and then subvert it. Needs to stay far away from Cronenberg's movie.
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An arena is built for the warring factions of HDDVD and BluRay. A fight to the death duel will predict the winner. In a cameo as Vid-Nero, Harry gives his thumbs up to HD DVD....heres why...
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Actually, fuck it, remake Small Wonder as a horror movie, it's not like we're actually going to get any good, original ideas anytime soon.
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This reminds me of the entire Rob Zombie’s Halloween debate about grindhouse and exploitation films. I was trying to say that I have nothing against films that are labeled as grindhouse or exploitation, but that I don’t like those films JUST because they were labeled as such. Exploitation was just a tool for low-budget filmmakers to compete with the big studio films. Instead of having big stars or great scripts or big budgets, they got people into the seats by EXPLOITING some element or genre that would bring an audience: black cast, sex, violence, gore, slashers, Satanism, vampires, etc. Some of the original exploitation films were brilliant, but the fact was that the use of exploitation was a purely desperate maneuver by the independent and small studios to get people to watch their films.
Which makes me laugh at all these remakes. This is exploitation filmmaking by the bigger studios. They are EXPLOITING the names of the original films to get people interested. And like a lot of the old exploitation films, that is all they got to get people interested in seeing it. The only reason you would see “THREE THE HARD WAY” is because it had a black cast.
And like someone above mentioned, 4 out of 50 remakes seem to be good. The sad thing is that the old grindhouse movies had an excuse – they had a limited budget, time to shoot and edit, and the majority of people working on them were not that talented. But despite that some of them were pretty good, and many of them were at least audacious or daring. However, the Remakeploitations have big studios backing them, millions of dollars in their budgets and even have some decent stars and actors in them. What the fuck is their excuse for having so many of them such shit?
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Cronenberg is such a hack! let's remake all his movies!! Same with Hitchcock! I hope we never see an original movie again! only remakes!
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I think one of the things that hurt my ability to like that movie was the fact that they used the title "Dawn of the Dead." While I thought the overall movie was not that great, the opening was damn good, and the end credits were damn brilliant and the scariest part of the film. But I couldn't like it because I was thinking "This isn't Dawn of the Dead." If Snyder and crew had given it a different title I think a lot of people would be more willing to accept it, including me, as a take on Romero's dead movies instead of a remake that doesn't match his vision.
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Just give me some time.
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"'Krull', 'Hawk The Slayer', Warlock', 'Highlander' or 'Nightbreed'" - Highlander does not belong in that list. It may not be a masterpiece, but the original (not any of the sequels, was great.
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And great name. Very fitting for this forum.
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you may be a retard. Total Retard.
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I love the film's ending.
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...And I'm trying to stay out of this discussion for fear of coming off biased, especially since I was ripping on the guy with the TRON handle who was in the Tron 2 talkback claiming that the original was the greatest film ever made. I think more often that not we end up blindly defending the movies we love to a damaging degree and don't allow ourselves to see the entire picture, which then in turn kills any idea of a fair discussion. My hope though, is that this remake will never see the light of day and eventually the people who get to decide what movies get made show some respect to film history and just allow for the original creators of these properties to be proud of what they made instead of making it look like a newer generation somehow has a better idea of what to do with it.
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The original is fucking yesterdays news. Time for something new. Who wants to watch some shitty movie from the eighties with shit special effects starring a bunch of people nobody gives a shit about anymore? Bring on the remake. Mix in some excellent special effects, some decent actors and a tight script, and we might have something good on our hands.
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I usually could care less about remakes because usually they are going to suck, but this one just seems fucking pointless. Seriously who thinks this is a good idea? I don't think this will ever get made.
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Was that an "ARTHUR" reference? Nice!
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I agree 100%
Hollywood should restore and re-release the classic versions rather than fun gutless talentless remkes. Videodrome remake? I wouldn't pay to see that even if they had my family hostage. Now a restored version of Cronenberg version? I'd pay full price. -
You're a fucking idiot.
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Apr 27, 2009 9:02:26 PM CDT
Puhlease! Scanners was mind-blowing, Videodrome should have been
by citizen sane
If you were to have waited 20 years before watching it a 2nd time, you would see that there were just as many lame ideas in that movie as good ones.
The minute James Woods put the damn video tape into his chest, I just wanted to hit rewind and take it back to the video store.
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It messed my shit up, afterward though I thought how it could be remade. I thought the internet route was WAY to obvious and therefore should be ignored. It'd just end up like 'Pulse' which sucked. After about a day of thinking on it I decided it was a bad idea to remake, wonder why Universal didn't draw the same conclusion?
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Says that: "The new one will introduce the idea of nano-technology and make the film a large-scale sci-fi action piece." Looks like a job for... the Wachowskis? Matrixdome? Kind of like Brundlefly... but fucking crap. Remake Electric Dreams, but with "nano-technology."
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... because back in the day before hollywood went remake happy, lets say if an exec watched videodrome and subsequently had all these interesting ideas, they would just spend the extra time and make an original property. I dont understand why, if you're not going to do a frame for frame remake of something or at least follow the same themes, why do you even call it a remake. It's not like a comic book property or a horror franchise with a memorable villain that can sell figurines and shit that has an established fan base. It just makes no sense on any level.
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... adding the word remake has become too much of a security blanket to help a project go through.
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... embarrassed to let everyone know where they "stole" their ideas and themes from. They would work hard at changing just enough to make it an original property, but now its completely the opposite. Instead of hiding it or denying what influenced the project you make sure that everyone knows because it will hopefully boost the ticket sales. In any other art form this would be a career ending move as you would be crucified for unoriginality and the work would immediately have no value.
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That they'll remake the Matrix and The Dark Knight soon!
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that some Hollywood bastard will attempt to remake A Clockwork Orange in the years to come? Given its notoriety and cult following, you'd think its only a matter of before some Hollywood douche hard-up for a hit film thinks they can outdo Kubrick (and before anyone mentions it: yes I'm aware that Anthony Burgess' book was made into a film once before Kubrick adapted it =p
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so it can't be remake
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Why? I can't say that I've seen a good remake since Cronenberg's The Fly.
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Apr 28, 2009 2:40:00 AM CDT
Like the sound of a canned ham dropped from a great height...
by sflogicninja
And will look like one, too.
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Apr 28, 2009 2:48:56 AM CDT
The hand coming out of the TV scared the shit out of me
by pissed off and bitter
As a kid. Whenever the trailer would come on, I would change the channel or turn off the TV.
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There must be an abundance of retard sandwiches out in the studio lounges.
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An acid trip without the acid. I think this one should stay in the 80's! PLus can we have a website to be affiliated with AintitBale.com called Aintitplusone.com. Make it so!
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The home page should just be a picture of The Swane waving his finger and saying "No - it ain't."
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It is now about how Talyor Swift and the Little Mermaid have a rainbow happy time in your magical tv box. It is also a romantic comedy and a musical biopic. Uwe Boll is set to direct. Oh shit, this just in! The remake of the videodrome remake is also slated to be remade!
De-evolution is very real. -
Cronenberg
+ Woods
+ ye olde scripte
= U Can't Touch This
Now SCANNERS could honestly benefit from a remake with an actor in the lead, but VIDEODROME got it right the first time. -
seriously...they could make money. the movies are done and paid for...they've made their money on rentals. Pick a bunch classic films. 70's and 80's classics (deer hunter, scanners, tron, last starfighter..whatever)...give the neg a sprucing up (it's does not even have to be the george lucas every frame is perfect deal either...just make them watchable) use the original trailer or cut a new one and put them in front of films you know will target us movie fans (you dont even need TV! an ad on a few sites like this would be enough!) and put them in theaters for half price. "See it as it was meant to be seen"! etc...and if you were to do this digitally? well you've just cut the printing costs too! We gen-xers and the like want to see out childhood film in the theaters again..we really do. and we will pay half price to see them. i mean really...who wouldn't go see romancing the stone in the theater again? i fucking would! do this in Toronto and you will fill seats i gurantee it.
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...being only 25 myself, there are thousands of movies that obviously i wasn't able to see in a theatre that I would love to be able to see projected up on the big screen. Plus you know that only true film lovers would go to check these out, so you wouldn't be forced to watch them with a bunch of loud obnoxious people.... hopefully.
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We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese
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i will fucking kill 1 in every 10 people if they remake this
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nothing is safe, everything will be shit on. Who is the fucking piece of shit who caused this to happen? Shit fucking faggot bitch cocksucking faggots. Can loving something cause it to be destroyed? VIDEODROME IS NOT MAINSTREAM FAGGOTS, YOU WILL NOT MAKE A DIME FROM RAPING THIS AND YOU WILL NOT DESTROY OUR CLASSICS. THEY WILL OUT LIVE YOU - BURN IN HELL COCKSUCKERS
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Will ferell in the lead or maybe Jim Carey. Yeah!! Long live the new flesh!! Now with more cowbell! Alrighty then!
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I've always felt eXistenz and Videodrome were kind of a thematic pair of films in Cronenburg's catalog of films. I'd love to see another take on the topic virtual interactivity. Hell, I'd love to see DC take on a remake of his own film. But to shoot a film and slap on the title "Videodrome" without Cronenburg's involvement just smacks of falseness. I understand that all investors in a film expect a return, but this one really is just about the money. I hope Ehren Kruger feels ashamed for taking this job.
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HOES
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HOES
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What1
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Where's the story!
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This is fucking stupid. Fucking creatively bankrupt Hollywood. The JAWS remake is coming. You know it's just festering in some douchebag yuppie junior executive's coke-addled brain, just building to the point where it bursts out at a fucking "story meeting" during a "working vacation" high up in the Rockies. I can feel it in my fucking bones. I fucking know it. I FUCKING KNOW IT.
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Jun 07, 2010 12:52:20 AM CDT
Always considered ExistenZe to be Cronenberg's update of Videodr
by vangoghx
Instead of VHS and cable TV it's video games. And can someone lick PeanutButterSlut's nuts to shut him the fuck up?
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What great news.... NOT!Let me just say this: the orginal movie was released on DVD by Criterion. You think the same will happen with the remake? Enough said!
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... half the geekry here would fucking hate it, specially the Gays For Bay and the Gays For JayJay (Abrams) crowd. This people would fucking hate the movie to the very core of their hearts. They would enjoy the special effects, of cours,e but everythign else they would dislike and hate, they would think the movie too cerebral, too self-important, too pompous , and whatever bulslhit they use to say when they are faced witha really smart movie they can't cope with. They would probably even say that this is not supposed to be Shakespeare or some shit like that. It's all about "TEH FUUUN"!!!! And VIDEODROME doesn't deliver "TEH FUUUN". It's too preocupated to be a proper good and smart movie for that.
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Great Movie
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was a further contemplation on many of the same themes of Videodrome
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The man is in every scene in this movie. In every scene! And he never gets boring, he never makes one feel he outstayed his welcome. Only a truly good actor with great screen presence can do that. Woods work in VIDEODROME is one of my favorite screen jobs he did. another one that i also loved, though much more subdued, was his work in THE VIRGINS SUICIDE. It's a compeltly different role then we are used to see him do, and yet it's a great piece of acting from him, very powerful, but by being so subdue and subtle. There's much more to James Woods as being a guy who plays over-the-top sleazeballs characters.And least we forget, he also did abmirably in Oliver Stone's SALVADOR. He was even nominated for best actor.
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It is a continuation of themes explored in other Cronenberg movie,s but there's fundamental differences. mos tof all, the tone of the movies: VIDEODROME is dead serious, darkly moody and dramatic. eXistenZ is light-weight, fast paced, and designed to be a fun thrill ride. It's Cronneberg letting his hair down. In fact, it's Cronenberg's most light-hearted movie of his career besides FAST COMPANY.
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Jun 07, 2010 5:20:06 AM CDT
I ORDERED A FREE SAMPLE OF EXTENZ
by captain_americas_cock_shaped_helmet
IT JUST MADE MY EYES WATER MY DICK DIDNT GET bIGGER
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GET TO THE CHOPPAH
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Jun 07, 2010 5:21:51 AM CDT
REMAKE EVERY JEAN CLEAN VANNE DAMME MOVIE
by captain_americas_cock_shaped_helmet
STARRING SHIA LEBOUF
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OH THEY DID THAT, SWEET!
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AfTER ITS MADE< GIVE THEM 2 TRIES BECAUSE ITS GONNA SUCK ASS
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Jun 07, 2010 5:24:33 AM CDT
REMAKE ENDGAME: BLUEPRINT FOR GLOBAL ENSLAVEMENT
by captain_americas_cock_shaped_helmet
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CAN WE GET A DO-OVER? LETS TRY RON PAUL
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and I want more. Love those old trailers!
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The movie was pretty good. I can't wait to see what a writer for Transformers 2: Shittiest Movie Ever Made can do with this material. I mean TF2 had plot holes the size of the sun and was probably written in crayon on one side of a napkin while this guy was waiting for his Denny's Grand Slam breakfast. Here's to hoping he actually knows how to write but just hasn't shown it yet.
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Directors shouldn't remake their own movies.
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C'mon YouTube nerds!
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Jun 07, 2010 2:10:53 PM CDT
It's well-known that LCD screens block the Videodrome signal.
by royston lodge
So, you know, we're safe from it now.
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I never knew when I revived this it would take on a life of it's own..........
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There is only one. But she should have kicked the bucket in 85, then she'd be immortal. Now she looks like a pissed-up granny dancing at a wedding disco. Shame, she was once the hottest p-o-a on the planet.
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