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Say it ain't so! BIOSHOCK on hold?!?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I love Gore Verbinski's flicks and I love BIOSHOCK, so naturally I'm foaming at the mouth to see him tackle the film. Looks like I'm gonna be froth-mouthed for a good while as the film has had the brakes applied as Universal starts to get nervous at the $160m (est) price tag.
Sure, I can understand their worry... but goddamn, it's going to be beautiful and thrilling and scary and awesome! You know it!
According to Michael Fleming at Variety they're looking for a decent overseas tax incentive to help 'em along and the folks at Universal swear this isn't going to be another failed franchise like HALO. They compare it more to the production delays caused by the big budgeted Ridley Scott Robin Hood movie which has stopped and started a dozen times over the last year and a half before finally going into production.
I hope they're not blowing smoke and trying to save face because I think this film with Verbinski at the helm could be massive for the studio and, more importantly, a real treat for us, a sci-fi horror film unlike anything we've gotten to see on the big screen. We'll see what develops...
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It's been like 4 minutes. Am I really the only loser on the planet home on this Friday night? Say it ain't so. I have responsibilities!
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we're here too. don't feel bad.
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Leave it to a studio to fuck something else up. When are these narrow minded fucks ever gonna learn? They always seem to put the brakes on the projects that we ant to see while they keep churning out chunks of shit like a truck driver with diarrhea. Wouldn't it be something if they could get a reral film geek into the top spot at a major stdui instead of they pablum-puking morons who infest the film industry these days. This shit is REALLY getting old!
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I sadly admit, I too am home. But can't for to hear more news of this film. The 1st game was awesome! The 2nd hopefully will raise the bar!
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I would wait, too. The movie adaptation has the making of the first Game-to-Movie adaptation that is BETTER than the game. There is a new Bioshock game coming out this year I believe, so they are probably still figuring out the story arc for the screenplay.
So long as this is still 'on', and just delayed due to location and budgeting, we should all wait. It'll be the best sci-fi horror movie since ALIEN, I promise. -
that has this kind of budget is going to be in for stuff like this for the near term - financing is tight and we all know how nervous people are when they can't leverage something that hasn't already proven to have made money. It will be interesting to see how much they feel they need to deviate from a pretty strong story - you know they will be compelled to.
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This had "never get made" all over it. Dudes, they can't even get the wherewithall to do a PLASTIC MAN movie. Think about that the next time you hear about the progress of TINTIN or BIOSHOCK.
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It's pretty obvious where they'll deviate from the basic story. The villains will ALL be white males. And a dominatrix bitch. There will be "a team of researchers" who will go down into Rapture to recover something - only to discover they were doublecrossed by the people who sent them there. There will be a component that the entire project was financed by a white male industrialist BEHIND the main white mail industrialist, and the guy behind everything will be an old friend of the male lead, who will have an unnecessary and uncomfortable romance. There will be a promise of action, but the "research team" will discover they have "no weapons of any kind" when they get to Rapture - guns won't work or something. My guess: "If we fire our weapons, the security system will flood the level!" There will be a race against time as levels of Rapture flood, and there will be various oceanic mutants and other creatures not in the game instead of the DNAed-up villains. The cause of Rapture will be secrelty revealed to be the quest to develop in the Big daddies (which will never be called that, nor the girls Little Sisters) a secret bioweapon to be sold to terrorists. The Little Sisters will be replaced by ONE littel girl who needs the resource to live (it won't be explored in the plot) and a jerk-ass member of the research team will threaten to kill her only to get shot down by the leader. There's the movie. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong.
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You mean fail to go into production. Can't really fail as a franchise if it never really tried to be one. I would hope they adapt Fall of Reach.
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Universal's grand plan for successful movies is to make another AMERICAN PIE shitfest. It's against their religion to attempt anything new or original, the two things that true creativity really thrives on. Sad, sad, sad. I guess I'll just go waste two hours at WOLVERINE next Friday and hope for the best.
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Yeah. Amazing game. Just play it. forget the movie. The game lets you LIVE the movie.
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You wait and see. Universal will fuck around just long enough for Gore Verbinski to drop out of the project. Then they'll slash the budget and hand to Paul W. S. Anderson. Oh, won't that be memorable!
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I think I need to play through the game again to wash the taint and eventual likelihood of your synopsis from my memory.
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You're wrong. You're bi-polar meds are good for you. Resume taking them.
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Bioshock is that most original, deep and truly twisted piece of fiction that I have ever experienced. It makes Halo look like Yor: Space Hunter from the Future. I thought it might actually be the FIRST good video game adaption with the names involved. Too bad.
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and it's all thanks to corporate greed and shortsightedness. I've been interested in the game for years, but I've refused to purchase it. As a matter of principle, I do not support so-called copy-protection mechanisms that don't do anything to prevent piracy but do significantly disadvantage the honest consumer (see also, MASS EFFECT). So, no BIOSHOCK in PC game form for me. So, a film would be appreciated for me to enjoy the story and atmosphere anyway. Let's just hope that the upcoming DVD of the movie isn't biodegradable and only usable three times before releasing a deadly toxin that kills my DVD player.
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Universal put this on hold because they found out that BIOSHOCK is one of the gajillion projects that RObert ROdrigues wants to "develop." LOL
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Apr 24, 2009 10:32:45 PM CDT
Gore: Hello - uh, Jerry Bruckheimer. I'm available ...
by professor_monster
GORE: Can you please fed ex the Pirates 4 script to me pronto!
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Damn this recession!
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Ee gads
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That's a convenient excuse, but these studio suits can always find excuses to do this kind of shit. Hey dickheads try this one on for size. If ya wanna make money, you're gonna have to spend some money. Grow a pair, or find a different line of work!
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C'mon. Let's get our act together so we can maybe still get this movie in 2010.
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The irony of it is that both Bioshock and Atlas Shrugged are now in Development Hell together...
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Development Hell is the true home of creative potential.
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This film is dead in the water. Son of a bitch.
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It's sad to watch this kind of crap happen over and over again. And it makes you wonder what they'll manage to fuck up next. I've said it before and I'll say it again...it's cool to see things about all the projects being developed, just don't get your hopes up too much until you begin to see photos from the set...and no, preproduction art doesn't count!
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Drop BIOSHOCK by the way side. That way, you'll be able to devote more time and assets into doing crappy remakes of even crappier old horror films. That's what EVERYBODY wants, remakes of eighties splatter movies. I would like to see the eyes of these so-called film execs ripped out so film fans the world over can piss in their skulls.
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Apr 24, 2009 11:06:22 PM CDT
Wait, tax credits? They're halting because of taxes?
by themarinebiologist
They should go somewhere that doesn't have taxes... some place where man is entitled to the sweat on his brow...
They should reject filming it in any of these corrupt countries, and choose to film it in something different... something impossible. -
We all know that it will be wildly successful... and I would LOVE to see what the entrance of Rapture would look like when done "realistically."
If you're not going to finish it, Universal, would you kindly allow someone else to finish it for you? -
Universal let somebody else make BIOSHOCK. PERISH THE THOUGHT!!! These fucks will just tie up the rights so that it never gets made. They're afraid that if they hand it off to a different studio, that studio might make some money with it. So instead they'll greedily hold onto it like a stingy little brat, piss off the film geeks and make zero dollars. Now THERE'S some fiscally responsible thinking for you!!!
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they would have to make it PG13 at that price.
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The last truly ballsy thing that I can recall a studio doing (correct me if I'm wrong)was the folks at New Line sticking their necks out to back the three LORD OF THE RINGS films. Look how that turned out. Now, granted, not everything can or will always work out as well as that did, but it will NEVER happen if they don't suck it up and TAKE THE CHANCE!
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I don't think so, at least not when I look at the budgets of most of the big films being made these days. And regardless of all the crap they like to spew about movies not making their money back, it's all a load of shit, too. Between the films release, merchandising, home video and cable revenues-they'd make money on it, regardless of what they always say. The problem lies with the lack of creative courage that infests the entertainment industry. They have all kinds of excuses, but the bottom line is that they always want "the sure thing." And when it comes to the film industry, there ain't no such animal.
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It's not an original property. Just let it live in the game. Why does it all have to become a movie?
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I'll tell you why. Because they want to cash in on the games' ready-made audience. That's part of their "sure thing" mentality, which anyone who pays attention can see doesn't always work the way they want it to.
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Face facts.. Resident Evil was ok at best. I know some of you jerk off to it, but it just didn't cut it with me. Final fantasy the movie was pretty cool, but it failed at the box office, same goes for the anime version of Street fighter 2.. Fuck Silent Hill, and fuck Doom, and all the Resident Evil Sequels. Video game movies suck in droves....
Super Mario Bros. (May 28, 1993)
Fatal Fury: The Motion Picture (July 16, 1994)
Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie (August 6, 1994)
Double Dragon (November 4, 1994)
Street Fighter (December 23, 1994)
Mortal Kombat (August 18, 1995)
Mortal Kombat: Annihilation (November 21, 1997)
Pokémon: The First Movie - Mewtwo Strikes Back (July 18, 1998)
Wing Commander (March 12, 1999)
Pokémon: The Movie 2000 - The Power of One (July 17, 1999)
Pokémon 3: The Movie - Spell of the Unown (July 8, 2000)
Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (June 15, 2001)
Lara Croft Tomb Raider: The Cradle of Life (July 25, 2003)
House of the Dead (October 10, 2003)
Resident Evil: Apocalypse (September 10, 2004)
Alone in the Dark (January 28, 2005)
Final Fantasy The Spirits Within (July 11 2001)
Doom (October 21, 2005)
BloodRayne (January 6, 2006)
Silent Hill (April 21, 2006)
BloodRayne II: Deliverance (September 18, 2007)
Resident Evil: Extinction (September 21, 2007)
Hitman (November 21, 2007)
In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale (January 11, 2008)
Postal (May 23, 2008)
Max Payne (October 16, 2008)
Resident Evil: Degeneration (December 17, 2008)
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So glad I didn't waste my life playing that game... Diver suits with drill arms don't shock me.
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No matter how much stoked I'm regarding Bioshock [which is in fact Atlas Shrugged, Redux] movie [which I expect will cover the back story we found in the game, rise and fall of rapture], what really got me all jizzed is the fact we get to play as a Big Daddy in Bioshock2.
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...but I have no faith in Verbinski as a director. Sure, his movies are slick-looking, but it's all a facade. Pretty people interacting with good CGI while shreds of plot float by. I did like the first Pirates flick, but was disappointed by the second, and finally hated the shit out of At World's End. So while I think it's time a studio pump a ton of cash into a video game movie and make something less laughable than Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun Li, I can't say that Verbinski's name fills me with a lot of hope.
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Apr 25, 2009 12:18:23 AM CDT
So the 1st big budget videogame movie is gonna be BIOSHOCK??
by gibsonusa returns
Most people havent even played that game!
So all these big names like Super Mario, Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, Resident Evil, and Double Dragon get these low budget movies...and Bioshock gets the gold? Thats interesting. -
Everyone knows Metroid. And PG-13 is do-able with that franchise.
When is John Wooo starting that? -
If ever a Metroid movie were made, it would need a 40 minute sequence where Samus tries to climb her way out of a ridiculously deep pit. After failing for the thirtieth time, Samus says, "Fuck this" and puts Mario 3 in.
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Maybe George Lucas should use some of his hard-earned dough and direct LEGO STAR WARS!!!
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Maybe Lucas and Spielberg can join forces again for LEGO INDIANA JONES.
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If any of THAT happens, I guess that Christopher Nolan's LEGO BATMAN won't be far behind!
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You have LON LON MILK
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Are you talking about the one in the Super Nintendo version? Spent hours trying to wall jump outta there....only to later find out that if you played the game using another path, you never had to do that lol.
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Apr 25, 2009 12:43:24 AM CDT
Blond Angelina Jolie would've been good for Samus in Metroid....
by gibsonusa returns
...too bad she was already Lara Craft, so that would be weird.
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That repeated casting suggestion brings me fear.
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Save for having a small amount of blood here and there, I don't see where the "horror" element would come from. I'd call the story more sci-fi/thriller.
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...And that sad truth is that no one wants to spend $160 Million on a big budget R-Rated film with franchise potential any more. So we'll either get big budget cutbacks, or a vastly toned down Bioshock film, or a combination of both, or no film at all. I don't see us ever getting a $160 Million R-Rated Bioshock film though, not in this day and age anyhow...
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Because they were made by certified retards.
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most of those games were all gameplay and no substance. there was never a story to speak of that kept you playing, it was gameplay.
Bioshock was the first game where my friends sat there for 5 hours watching me play before they realized 5 hours past. The narrative and the story drove the game. -
Video game movies have a 0% rate of success. I don't see that changing in the near future. Bioshock is an all time great, but it will not translate into a movie.
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"based on the acclaimed video game" sounds a lot like "based on the acclaimed graphic novel".. and watchmen failed to bring in more than $100 million.
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I liked silent hill...although a bioshock movie would be badass.
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Really? Seemed pretty fucking creepy to me...
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If the script is solid, they'll likely turn a decent profit even on such a giant budget.
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Honestly, this is getting out of hand. Spidey 3, the latest Superman movie, the Matrix sequels, etc. All of them bloated movies. The talent involved is only concerned about "new FX" and the scripts in general suck. Why is it that the most interesting movies (and if marketed right, the potentially most profitable) are all made on lower budgets? Cause that's where the fucking ideas are. Not in some pile of computer effects that are applied to "franchises" with a built-in fanbase. I am no enemy of big blockbuster movies, but the budgets are unreasonable at best. Give a director a maximum budget of, say, a hundred million and if he cannot deliver a movie within that budget then find another who can (someone with Talent. Creativity is not only what is On the screen, but also How You Get It There). Bring on the back-end deals for the main players (stars, director & producer(s)) and push the budget down like that!
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And while I can agree leaving at that would be fine, I think in the hands of a director like Verbinski, the story of the game could be fleshed out and make one hell of a good flick. He's very visual, and anyone who's played three minutes of the game knows it oozes visual flare. Get a decent lead great characters in as Ryan and Fontaine and I can't imagine this thing not being a winner.
And SILENT HILL wasn't perfect, but it was very fine movie on it's own, especially the end because Gans let it all go ape shit, which was awesome in my book.
Kinda makes me laugh though strictly from a business sense because it's not like Verbinski doesn't have a damn nice track record as far as dollars are concerned. I mean, shit, most of the worries of budget have to do with two things: talent and commercial viability. BIOSHOCK would seem to have both in spades. Fucking economy... -
... but then I remember that it's based on a video game (one of the best games ever, by the way). You have to ask yourself, has there ever been a good video game movie? The answer is NO.
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Apr 25, 2009 2:58:33 AM CDT
So it's not based on those kids toys i see adverts for in the uk
by darth_bale
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Still have zero interest in this film, still it's better than inflicting another pirates of the caribean film on the general public, sorry but the last 2 stank. Thats 5+ hours of my life I won't get back
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There a time not long ago when $100m was mind-blowing for a film. Perhaps a better focus on cost-control would allow the studio more freedom to not rely on turgid warmed-over re-boots -makes -imaginings, sequels prequels and fucking requels(!).
Consider all the film nerds out there and all the great high-concept scripts filling desk drawers that could be well realized for $50-$100m. -
Couldn't this be made for $70 million or less?
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I wall jumped that mother fucker. Little did I know that you could shinespark it.
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especially the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. Yuck.
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Could care less, I'm still waiting for a Gears of War Movie or how about a reboot of Resident Evil since anderson fucked the first three up.Hack
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....AND YET THEY WERE HAPPY TO GREENLIGHT WATERWORLD!! THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY'VE GOT ON THEIR HANDS DO THEY?
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It can because the game felt more like a movie. The gameplay was good but the best part of the game was the story. I have never played a game all the way through just purely based on its storyline.
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It's like Starship Troopers on steroids. Minus the satire, of course. I honestly don't know which filmmaker could pull that off. As long as Ratner stays the fuck away.
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Sort of like Escape from New York but in a huge science facility in the desert mountains of the Western US. With aliens. And mutants. How can you beat that?
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Too many parallels with Atlas Shrugged. Hollowood is always reluctant at best to promote an ideology that is diametrically opposed to theirs.
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$160mil budget on a sci-fi horror? No way. Expect this to ditch the horror aspect and turn into a sci-fi actioner to combat Will Smith's Capt Nemo film.
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If only Pirates had made more money.
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I thought I read somewhere that Christian Bale was interested in playing Snake. If it was based on the first MGS story, and not so much the convoluted storylines of the sequels, this would be a very solid movie.
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Brett Ratner can deliver "Bioshock" to Universal for under $100 million, and in half the time that Gore Verbinski would take. Say what you want about his movies, but the Ratman can put out a film on time and under budget. He's kind of like the "Walmart" of movie directors. I will ask Ratner to film my kid's next birthday party.
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Holy shit, I'm watching shoestring student films about Half Life 2 that look like they have some decent production values...WTF? Is catering that fucking expensive?
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http://www.youtube.com/wat ch?v=q1UPMEmCqZo
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Vid game movies pretty much suck.
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Apr 25, 2009 10:24:03 AM CDT
It was not impossible to build Rapture at the bottom of the sea
by slone13
It was impossible to build it anywhere else.
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if they took out all the sci-fi future bullshit in assassins creed then that could be an awesome movie?
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Batman: Arkham Asylum is fucking our eyeballs in June?
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I cant get that song out of my skull!!!!
I hope you go a whole week humming the oompa loompa song !
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It Aint So....
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....so that won't be happening. I'm surprised it didn't happen, it lacks plot so you'd think it would be an ideal candidate, since almost every other game movie has come from a narrative free story. And no, people REALLY don't know Metroid. It's not that popular.And I don't see Bioshock happening either, there's only been one really big hit video game movie (Mortal Kombat) and a few low budget minihits (Res Evil). Everything else has flopped, there's no proof of concept out there for a big budget game movie as success.The funny thing is the continual bullshit over a Halo movie-if it were that "sure fire" then they would have no trouble lining up financing, or hey-if Microsoft were that confident in it, they could finance it themselves. Why else make someone take all the "risk"? Seems to me that they know that the money won't come back.
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Dudes - the creators of BIOSHOCK got Objectivism -SO TOTALLY WRONG- it isn't funny. Just listen to the recorded message about Rapture in the trailer preview that ran. There's the supposed Objectivist talking about how man can't be limited by "petty morality." Um, Objecticism is ALL ABOUT MORALITY and doing the BEST/MOST CORRECT THING - THE MORAL THING. Idiots. Yeah, the guys in BIOSHOCK aren't Objectivists - they're pragmatists.
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I despise BIOSHOCK. I can't find it right now, but there's hilarious walkthroughs on YouTube from E3 or soemthing like that where they're narrated by the creator of the game. The guy is ridiculous, a complete joke of a human being and a total liar. He says things like "We decided to put a bullet through the way games are made - on rails, where you have no choices." Except that BIOSHOCK is totally a beginning-middle-end game creating the ILLUSION of choice but still giving you only one direction to go. He says "We don't MAKE moral choices for the player. We let the PLAYER decide to be good or evil." Except that the game gives you a clear-cut moral choice. "Should you murder children or not?" Like that's a grey area for anyone? And if you DO choose to be evil even ONCE, the game locks you down to a "bad ending" versus a "good ending." So it IS making a moral choice for you. Really, you gotta hear this guy. My crowning moment when my comprehension of this guy = HATE was when I heard him say "And now, let me tell you about the role water plays in BIOSHOCK." The. Role. Water. Plays. Uh-huh. Done.
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Never has a game shown so much water and involved it so little in the game play. You can shock splicers who are standing in water, that's about it.
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Because Halo 4 is going to sell like a fiend and so will Halo 5, 6, 7....
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your drug is a heartbreaker
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I really liked the game (it is pretty overrated, but it isn't bad) and I don't want to see the story ruined like 99% of all other videogame movies.
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Apr 25, 2009 12:45:20 PM CDT
personally i prefered only in dreams or the good life
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
sorry you got a massive weezer boner her. anyway bioshock is one great game, but im really done with videogame movies. the only "good" one was the first mortal kombat, and that does not hold up after all these years.
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but as a game it was just OK. It would make a great movie though.
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She's fucking pissed about this...
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Apr 25, 2009 1:07:48 PM CDT
Been decades since 160 was truly 'big' & Prince of Persia
by white_vader
Will cost more anyway. Funny the fanboys have forgotten about that one. Never mind, it'll make a heap because girls will drag their boyfriends to see monkeyboy Jake Gyllenhall all pumped and sweaty. And there are many many more girls out there than fanboys, no matter how important or how many we like to think we are...
And True Pinback, yeah they took a risk and went for 3 rather than Harvey's 2, but it still only cost them 83mill a film. They made all 3 for about the cost of a bad Supes movie. And each made roughly a billion. And about the same again on Video. -
Apr 25, 2009 1:12:20 PM CDT
The best Videogame Movie of 09 that's actually the game itself
by stalkeye
Goes to RE5.the CGI cinemas alone rival the crap that most movies are putting out today. Fuck, videogames are kicking hollywood's ass since it's more of an interactive experience. I mean how many times can you watch TDK as oppossed to killing Zombies in various ways?
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You know you want it.
And I meant to say over a decade. I corrected it, but not sure what happened there... still, it's 12 years since they freaked about Titanic going over 200 mil. And longer since Waterworld went to 180... -
tagline: "Prepare to be nauseated."
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That has been a very compelling argument from the Video Game community for quite a many years, and I would have to agree whole-heartedly.
A very well created video game like RE5, Bioshock, Halo, or Assassin's Creed, is kinda like a movie and a novel. Like a movie, you can watch it and enjoy the visuals. Like a novel, you can enjoy it at your own pace. Like both, you are driven to discover what secret lies at the heart of the story, most likely keeping up up through the night, much like a book.
But it is not one-sided: you also get to reason, strategize, and kick ass in any way you see fit. You control the action in this film... -
And they had a budget of only 500 bucks... Hollywood really has no excuse when a couple of film students can go out and do that. Oh, and everyone saying who cares, all videogame movies suck anyway... well that's because these projects are always given to some hack MTV music video director looking for his big break and has zero knowledge or respect for the source material. That, or they're just retarded like Paul WS Anderson or Uwe Boll.
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http://marketsaw.blogspot.com/2009/04/james-camerons-avatar-set-photo-scans.html
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and video games to movies are suddenly good. use games with lots of detail in the story, like Bioshock, instead of games with no story, like Street Fighter. With a big budget, a competetant director, and a decent producer, Bioshock could be the video game movie that finally breaks the mold and shows holywood it's worth doing RIGHT.
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there just aren't enough nerds in the world to justify it.
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I happened to pull it off the shelf and place it on my desk yesterday.
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http://tinyurl.com/c2g92a
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That's what they said about Star Wars 30 years ago.... Halo has as deep a pantheon as Star Wars or Star Trek. It is a modern-day space opera, with 3 acts. And if you include the books, there is enough space-explodey-planet-rocking action in the years before the first Halo game takes place to make 5 amazing films.
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I just don't believe that...
Halo is not just beloved by nerds, but by a whole host of individuals that have penises. And the occasionaly vag. Anyone that has every played or seen the video game being played will most likely go out and see it. To say that people won't go out and see a video game movie because it is based off of a nerdy video game is like saying that people won't go out to see a comic book movie because it is based off of a nerdy comic book. But the difference is, HALO is one of the only respectable video games to enjoy by every class (nerd, frat, etc) in college. -
Comic books have never been cool. To pick up a comic, you have to go to a nerdy comic book store. To pick up a video game, you can go to any of the "awesome" electronics suppliers.
Video games are cooler than Comic books in this current age, and successful comic book movies are being made. It is asinine to say that only nerds would go out and see a video game movie. -
The game was okay, basically a bunch of friggin fetch quests and a whole lotof stupid searching for shit. If you want to enjoy BIoshock, just download the demo for free, the beginning of the game is the best part. AFter that all the cinematic qualities go out teh window and it's just a typical game. The mechanics and powers are cool though. However anyone touting it as the best immersion in games for storytelling is a moron. It's all recorded messages which half the time I'm not listening to because I'm fighting some shit or having to move around, so no, I didn't get a damn chanceto appreciate anything that's going on. There's a reason I like non interactive cutscenes and Bioshock proves my point. Anyway well all is said and done this could be a very very cool movie! And I hope it happens!
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We need our Gordon Freeman kicking some alien ass at Black Mesa!!!
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Bioshock was hardly overrated... and yes I have played the entire Half-life series. Intelligent story, compelling characters, beautiful environments, it is a classic! Verbinski is a good director, but truthfully I would have much rather seen del Toro attached to this project - he looks to be a little busy though :-)
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I tried to enjoy Bioshock but it really just isn't that good a game. The atmosphere is great, so are the graphics but as a game it just isn't entertaining. The fact that you had to constantly search bodies endlessly to pile money into vending machines was fucking beyond laborous. Half-Life 2 on the other hand, my god that was good.
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We have lost a Golden Girl. Repeat, you deaf little bastards, we have lost a Golden Girl.
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Make this movie! and make it good.
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Video game movies are even more so. People with drug addictions are more interesting to hang out with than people glued to their couches and controllers racking up "achievements." I know, I know, talkback is the biggest, most pointless time waste of all, but at least talkback is free. Oh and RIP Bea Arthur, thank you for being a friend.
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Apr 25, 2009 3:48:01 PM CDT
videogames are a great way to spend time
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
its fuckin meant to entertain, and thats what they do.
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10 dollars for a 2 hour movie vs 60 dollars for a 40 hour game... I'm sold hand me my controller.
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Heh. RIP Bea.
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Ridley Scott must be a fucking good troll.
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Bioshok > Halo. I guess that goes without saying, kinda like Madden > NFL Blitz.
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what the fuck!!!!!!
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Apr 25, 2009 4:17:03 PM CDT
MrBum that doesnt even include if its multiplayer
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
epsecially online. ive spent so much time on halo 3 and cod4 its insane.
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He even found out a way of stopping (or delaying) a shitty videogame movie. Don't get me wrong, Bioshock looks awesome, but Verbinski doesn't look like someone who can bring any real depth to a movie.
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Bioshock is as unlikely to be a big draw as any other video game movie. Yes, it's got fabulous visuals and atmosphere for a game... but nothing all that spectacular for a film. I can see $160M as being a ridiculous tag for a movie unlikely to do better than Doom or Watchmen.
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Sheeeeet I'm getting plenty of replay value on games like RE5 and Street Fighter IV alone (especially when going at it online.)it seems someone doesnt know how to have fun especially if you are hanging with losers who are addicted to drugs. ah, to each his own.
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He hasn't seen a script yet, but Brett will take it. He doesn't believe in wasting too much time planning this shit; he just gets a script, some equipmemt, some actors, builds a few sets, and then says, "ACTION!". Thats the way to do it! Fuck all this motivation crap, we got a movie to make!
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Apr 25, 2009 6:33:55 PM CDT
brett ratner should agree to GO FUCK HIMSELF
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
stupid fat fuck
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Give it to Uwe Boll he'll do it for $100.
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You ignorant, judgmental waste of perfectly good organs. Video games give you more replay-ability and can actually increase brain activity (specifically creativeness) and hand-eye coordination. When you look at it that way they may even have more values than movies (thought not anywhere near them when talking from an artform standpoint, even tho a video game still can be art, the medium just hasn't matured enough yet.) So brosif, take your bloated archaic grandfather-esque opinions and cram them.
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That's why this is on hold.
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Set pictures? They're basically pictures of Cameron looking his usual pissed off old self.
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Get on the ball AICN
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The Purchase Brothers' movie shows just how bankrupt of ideas Hollywood really is when it comes to how to pull off good movies. They spent $500 and made a movie that looks better than much of the SCI-FI (sorry, ****ers, I'm not gonna call you Syfy if you suck me off for it) original material.
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Yeah all three of them. Ring, The Mexican and a Disney ride.
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Sleep w/ one eye open.
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movie when you 1) don't pay anybody; 2) have all the sound effects/CG from the game pre-made. I respect their effort, but when you actually have to pay people and create everything from scratch that costs money.
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no such thing as a good video game to movie adaptation. Exhibit A: Mortal Kombat. Exhibit B: Silent Hill. Both SUPERB adaptations that were right on the money!!!
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Apr 26, 2009 12:50:24 AM CDT
When will they realize how huge a METROID movie would be??
by gibsonusa returns
Movie people seemed surprised by the success of Transformers. DUHH!! When will they realize the goldmine that is Metroid. And Zelda.
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because until recently, video games were treated with less respect by hollywood than Comic Books and 80's cartoons. Now that TDK made booku bucks, Transformers was a smash, and Transformers 2 and GI Joe are going to be two of the biggest movies this summer, all it takes is someone willing to give a quality game franchise a quality treatment. Many video games are cinematic in scope but are told from only one perspective, and have many aspects that can be adapted to a screenplay. Mass Effect easily beats Halo or any other sci fi video game in the category of "Most Likely To Be As Epic As Star Wars". If Jim Cameron got off this stupid Avatar kick and made a 100% crazy-go-nuts mo-capped Mass Effect film, you would see something spectacular. But no, if Mass Effect is every made in to a movie, it will be done by Brett Ratner or Uwe Boll with ham actors, man-in-suit aliens, and promoted as a fun family flick.
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everyone i know is excited, myself included, they'd be insane to pull it, the game is so strong visually, and needs a POTC level of visual detail, this will look fantastic, the story is great, he's the right director to do it, and when Bioshock 2 comes out, the sales are going to show everyone just how popular a movie will be.
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The sounds effects were from the game but the CG wasn't. its obviously fan made. and damn good at that.
the designs aren't what cost the money. its the effects houses that charge so much. but to be fair, as good as the work was in that it still needs work. and it won't hold up on the big screen. not to mention true HD.
but it is a start.
and as said VG movies suck because of crap directors, or if the director is good the original creators get involved and fuck it up (street fighter). or the writers, or the actors. they just don't get the resources and talent other films get. -
Is because most games are pretty generic and have horrible stories and we only love them because we get to actually BE in the adventure so its alot more fun to play than it is to watch.
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Great games can stand alone and don't need to be turned into movies. Visually and story wise, the game stands on it's own. What can a MOVIE bring to the experience that is not already felt in the game?
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Until this moment I had no idea what Bioshock was. I looked it up on Wikipedia, and now I see why this could cost $160 million. However, with the right director and a lot of CGI, it doesn't have to.
This is not a mainstream type of movie to begin with, especially if you follow the game's storyline of an alternate realty 1960. I would set it in modern times to avoid all of that shit.
This movie, with all of the underwater sequences and crap would make for an interesting sci/fi movie, but it is not summer movie material. Get a good, young director to make it with unknown actors, plus one known star, and you can make it for under $80 million. It needs to be a movie... -
Just ask Kevin Costner and James Cameron how much water adds to a films budget.
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JOSH SWANEY!!!!
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which the game didn't... And that's a chance for me to actually sit down and understand the story and what Rapture and all those other radio characters were all about. I was too busy playing Bioshock to pay attention to the radio convos so I never caught 90% of what was being talked about because I'm either fighting against some shit or there's some other commotion or I'm searching things. It's a perfect example of why games often ought to take interactivity away from the player in order to tell the story... either that or games ought to be more like Shadow of the Colossus where story is told visually and interactively... but even that game needed cutscenes to start, inform and finish. In terms of telling a good story and informing the player about the world, Bioshock did it poorly, but it had its moments.
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...is because the people making them are shitty filmmakers. Plain and simple.It's annoying to see the argument that games won't work as movies because in the game you're an active participant in the action, whereas in the movie you're passive. There are plenty of excellent video game ideas that could be developed in such a way that create a thrilling movie-going experience. Often times you just have a protagonist in games that plods through plot with little or no character development. Master Chief being a perfect example of that. Master Chief goes through no changes throughout the duration of the Halo games. As much as I love Halo, that character would need to be significantly changed. He just has a "What's next sir?" attitude. (And this is coming from a HUGE fan of the Halo games.) It works for a game, wouldn't work for a movie. Despite the batshit insane plots of Metal Gear Solid, at least Solid Snake learns things and changes throughout the duration of the story. That would be easier to adapt, but would still require plenty of changes. Again, what works in a game wouldn't necessarily work in a movie. My long, drawn out point is that you need filmmakers who understand what made these games popular, mine those ideas, and translate and adapt it for a new medium, specifically film. It's entirely possible. It just needs to be done right. Because at the core, they're just ideas like anything else.
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you are correct. a HALO movie that focused on Master Chief would be boring.
But a HALO movie focusing on something else. A Prequel. All talk of a halo movie focused on the hours before the first HALO game. Before either side in the war even knew HALO's existed or what they were. There was a gigantic military base-planet that was attacked by the entire Covenant armada. There was a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu::gasp::uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge
battle. The ship from the beginning of HALO was the only one to survive and escape, by doing a random Light Speed Jump... and they found the first HALO- where the game begins.
Tell me you couldn't make a "huge last-stand of human forces against overwhelming odds" prequel that ends right as HALO the game begins?
:-PMGS is my favorite game of 2008. Holy crap awesome. But the story is batshit loco and would never work as a movie. Sorry. It hurts me, too. Blame the crazy batshit loco japanese writers. -
Suck balls.
Mario Brothers
Mortal Combat (all of them)
Street Fighter (all of them)
Doom
Resident Evil (all of them) terrible.
The only one that was worth a shit
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A "BIOSHOCK" movie about what happened BEFORE everything went to hell. A movie about Rapture, before the new-years 1959 party that sent the city into a downard spiral. Make a crazy scifi horror movie about a bunch of upper class people who are driven mad by gene altering procedures who finally destroy what they created. Then you could make the BIOSHOCK-game movie, and BIOSHOCK 2 (coming soon!)-game movie!
the biggest problem with video game movies are directors who try to make literal adaptations of linear visions. They miss what attracted people to the game and try to film the gameplay. -
If you followed one of the characters, say Diane Mclintock (who could be the best candidate for the movie protagonist), you'd have to start just before the party and the events just after.set up rapture and Ryan, and Fontaine. Show the discovery of the worm that adam originally came from. and the creation of the little sisters to convert it and store it. the begining of the splicing. and the rivalry between Fontaine and Ryan. But use Diane as the focal point. She was there through most of it. she was injured at the party that the splicers made their initial attack. she was worked on by Steinman. She ended up getting involved with Fontaine until she found out what he was up to. through her eyes you can see the fall of Rapture.
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Have a look at who has been at the helm of these movies! A who's who of 'Who the fuck is that guy?' Plus of course, freaking Paul W.S. Anderson! As movie studios continue to use hacks for their video-game movies, the video game movies will continue to suck. Which is why the whole Halo debacle is so disappointing. Finally someone with talent involved in the creative process. But of course, Hollywood had to screw that up too.
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You just have to look at the caliber of director your adverage comic book adaptation gets in contrast to the adverage videogame adaptation. I'm pretty sure that if someone like Christopher Nolan, Jon Favreau or Sam Raimi were to direct a videogame movie there'd probably be a much higher chance of it being decent than if Uwe Boll or Paul W.S. Anderson were to make it.
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just asking. never considered him as one of the elite directors...lets get Zemeckis on this and go to bed
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That was the best idea anyone has had in this entire TB.
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I guarantee it will be PG-13. Also could be biding time for the release of Bioshock 2 to see how the figures stack up. Makes sense, no point dropping that kind of money if the sequel performs poorly or sucks and gives the franchise a bad wrap.
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When did GV earn his stripes? You have to fucking ask? The guy took what should have been the worst idea ever (making a Disney Pirate ride into a movie) and let's face it Haunted Mansion had almost proved that making a decent film from a ride was harder than even a decent VIDEOGAME film - and turned it into not millions, but BILLIONS of dollars. Now it comes to thinking of directors for taking a game and turning into something palatable that will also turn them a profit. This is the most uncreative play it safe no-brainer ever!
And let's face it, Zemeckis isn't half the filmmaker he was when he did say, BTTF. The guy gives the whole plot away in his trailers ON PURPOSE because he believes that's what the American public wants (even if that were true it's still astoundingly stupid) and has said so. Obviously he's not a crap director, but who do you thing bean-counters and suits would choose first?
...or maybe you asked a rhetorical question... or maybe the Pawnbroker's sister knows... -
I can understand wanting to turn BioShock into a film, but I wish someone would have done it with System Shock and System Shock 2 long ago. Those games were ripe for film treatment. Great stories.
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As others have brought up certain ideas, here's the easiest most practical way to make VG movies that benefit sales of movies and games! these things are franchises so utilize that!For example, let's take Halo! Master Chief is a useless character. So instead of making a Halo movie about Master Chief, how about a Halo movie about other people with Master Chief as a legendary soldier in the background who shows up occasionally??? Have the movie and game's plots and timelines interact at points but teh primary story and characters in teh movie standing by themselves??? maybe Halo is not teh best example, but the Wachowskis really did have the right idea with 'Enter the Matrix.' Even the prequel idea thing is genius for Bioshock and Halo! Make movies about that! Gamers will watch the movie and movie watchers might get interested in the games! This sort of thing would be perfect for Bioshock or Halo! Then there are games that have strong stories and characters that can be easily adapted such as Metal Gear, Silent Hill, UnCharted and Gears of War. In any case you can make great movies even out of shitty games. They don't have to be fucking exact. and if you're teh sort who would whine about exactness or that your Halo movie has no Master Chief as the central character when he's a shitty character to begin or because they changed him too much to make his 2-bit character work as an actual character in the movie with then you are a moron!
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Monroeville Mall eh? You wouldn't happen to be from SIXBURGH CHAMPSYLVANIA would you? :-P
412 represent.
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