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AICN Exclusive: Robert Rodriguez answers some questions about PREDATORS!!!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with the word from the man himself about the newly announced PREDATORS. Harry reached out to Robert Rodriguez when the news broke and sent some questions.
Below you'll find how this started, get an idea of what remains from Rodriguez's '90s Predator script and he even confirms he's directing, despite the rumors circulating he wasn't. In fact, he's co-directing, but with whom I'm not sure. We know he's co-directing MACHETE with editor Ethan Maniquis and has, in the past co-directed with Tarantino and Frank Miller.
Anyway, here are the questions sent forth by our own Grande Rojo and the answers from Robert Rodriguez! Enjoy!
1. Quite some time ago you created a treatment called PREDATORS, which was about Arnold's characters being shipped to the Predator home world where they were put into an alien menagerie.
Now that you're producing a PREDATOR movie, is there any hope that it'll be called PREDATORS and be based upon your original treatment? And if not, what direction are you taking this and does it have a title?
Robert Rodriguez: Way back before I did Desperado, I had taken a writing assignment for a sequel to Predator.
With a nod toward Cameron's ALIENS I decided to call it PREDATORS. I set it on a jungle-like Predator planet. It was just a writing assignment, so I didn't have to worry about budget constraints or how the movie would actually get made with the technology that existed back then, so I just wrote any cool thing I could come up with.
Fast forward 15 years to when I got a call from Alex Young over at Fox, who had been digging around and found my original treatment. He was eager to get it made and re-invent the Predator franchise using the treatment as a guide. So he contacted me to see if I'd be interested in being involved, and it seemed like the perfect project for us over at Troublemaker Studios.
I've built up an amazing team over the years at Troublemaker, and they're all huge PREDATOR fans. (I know this because Predator model kits litter our offices and workstations.) So the next stage is finding a writer and director to come in and work with us to bring it to life. Whether or not it will ultimately be based on the treatment or not is still unknown at this time.
2. The original John McTiernan PREDATOR is a brilliant action/ science fiction film. What is it that you're hoping to bring to fans of that film that will revive the franchise?
RR: PREDATOR is a masterpiece of the action/science fiction genre. Its been borrowed from so much in other movies and even video games (that will now probably be turned into movies themselves) that I liked the idea that we could have PREDATORS made relatively quickly. What I'd like to do with it is expand on ideas I dreamt up back in the original treatment, that had really expanded on the universe both the Predators and other species live in. We'd create new otherworldly characters while not taking away from the draw our main Predator has. I think another reason I called it Predators was to mark it as a project that should be taken seriously by a filmmaker to make a worthy follow up to a classic, much in the way Cameron made Aliens a compelling work on its own, following Ridley Scott's Alien.
Alex is passionate about re-inventing the series to a new and exciting level, and as a fan myself I'm all for it.
3. Will you work to get the Governor involved somehow in your new PREDATOR production?
RR: This is still the early stages, so we haven't approached him about taking part. As things develop further, we'll keep you posted, because this is obviously a fan favorite.
4. Are you going to make this a badass R-rated Predator movie?
RR: We haven't discussed rating yet, but my treatment was very “R.”
5. What is coming up next for you as director and is there any chance that you'd take the reins on PREDATORS?
RR: The idea is that I'd produce PREDATORS here at Troublemaker Studios, so that I can feel free to walk to the PREDATORS soundstage, pick up a camera and co-shoot the coolest scenes.
Directing wise, next up will be NERVERACKER for the Weinstein Company.
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...suckas...
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...makes fun, shitty movies. He could never pull off a great Preadator sequel. It will probably be a fun movie to watch...but there will be nothing to it...just like all of his other movies.
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I'll be there.
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since the original.
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I'm more interested in that than another Predator movie.
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you're right, that's an exclusive!
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Your green screen stuff looks fake. That was fine for Sin City, which was a comic book brought to life - but it's not right at all for Predator.
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you could easily argue that each of his movies is worse than the previous movie
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He doesn't know the rating, he doesn't know who's writing, directing, staring, or really anything about the movie besides that he is the producer and it's kinda gonna be based on his 15 year old treatment. <p> Thank's for the info.
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April 24, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST
And don't "co-shoot". Let another director handle this.
by JuanSanchez
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More in line with what AVP SHOULD have been. No excessive CGI and green screens...go practical 90%. And NO shaky cam bullshit.
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Shane Black to work a serious treatment of Rodgriguez's treatment. He proved that he still has writing chops with "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang." I'd be willing to bet he could capture lightning in a bottle again. Secondly- bring back John McTiernan to direct. Search your feelings, fellow geeks, you know it to be true. And I'm fucking high. Don't tell anyone.
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Come on!
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Come on man, is it over or what?
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that they are just getting started - what do you expect, a fucking trailer?
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but i avoid AVP's like the plague. Is Robert still dating Rose Mcgowan, she comes into the airport bookstore i work at from time to time and want to ask her whats up with red sonja.
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April 24, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST
shane black mentioned he wanted to make a sci fi
by hellcametofrogtown
in an interview once, but it sounded more like a star wars type he wanted to make, which would be the tits!!! he was hilarious in the first Predetor, i wonderif he wrote his own jokes?
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sounds like that's how he can do machette and predators at the same time-predators sounds like it is still in way early pre production. So when do we get the special edition dvds for spy kids, faculty, road racers, and grindhouse?
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April 24, 2009, 10 p.m. CST
robert's gotta cut back on the cgi/green screen stuff
by hellcametofrogtown
and go back to real directing, his talent shows in Desperado, at that period his Predetor film seemed like the 2nd coming. i thought the script for OUATIM seemed like it needed another draft, so i hope he doesn't rush this one.
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April 24, 2009, 10:03 p.m. CST
Will "Aliens" be among the other species????????????????????????
by crackerfarmboy
If not it will be kind of pointless to have other species. It takes away from the Aliens and the Predators. Unless we get some hardcore space jockeys?
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April 24, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST
Just produce this and let another director take the reigns
by JuanSanchez
You're not right for this, RR.
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he was going to direct it. That would have been nice.
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April 24, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST
He's not the same filmmaker anymore. He's not right for it.
by JuanSanchez
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I just realized that I made a mistake. Shane Black did not write Predator. The Thomas brothers wrote it. Bring them in to write the Predators movie. Shane Black can help. This happened because I'm high. I'm so ashamed...
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to just take a treatment or a plot outline or a first draft of a script or some crayon pictures that his children drew and turn it into a movie. I really do admire his renegade approach to filmmaking, but I think the guy needs a bit more discipline when it comes to picking and developing his projects. I think it all might boils down to the fact that he is basically a guy with a garage hobby who happens to make multi-million dollar movies instead of birdhouses or train-sets. I hope that he's devoting enough time and attention to each of these fifteen or so projects he has in the pipeline.
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the problem that they continue to have with these recent Aliens and Predator films is that they think the original movies are about the Aliens and the Predators...when they were actually about Ripley and Dutch and the supporting characters. If you don't give audiences some access on that level you are just making noise.
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i'm high too.
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Nice. I'm watching Tobe Hooper's 1986 remake of Invaders from Mars. This movie flipped my shit and then scared it out of me when I was a kid. It's still awesome. Stan Winston fracking owned these effects. Simply outstanding.
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April 24, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST
Gwai Lo - YOU NAILED IT! Film has become a hobby for RR
by JuanSanchez
Not a serious endeavor. He's just having fun with studio money.
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...is pick ONE project and devote himself to THAT, instead of trying to get "develope" all theses film projects. I have nothing against Robert Rodriguez personally-Hell I don't even KNOW him other than his films-but I am really starting to get the sense that he is biting off more than he can chew with all of this. He talks the talk, let's see if he can walk the walk!
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April 24, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST
Seriously - he's not a studio head. Be a director, RR.
by JuanSanchez
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But I just do not care about this.
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April 24, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST
It's sad - RR seriously used to be one of my major heroes.
by JuanSanchez
Made a movie for $7,000 and got it in theaters for pete's sake. But now he's become a joke.
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the Man...the Myth...the LEGEND! Matbe that Texas ganja has gotten to his head. Or maybe Quentin Tarantino has corrupted him somehow. Come on RObert, get your shit together and get a movie made. Listen to Elvis-A Little Less Talk And A Little More Action!
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Man, I hope that ain't true, because it sure would be a waste to see someone with so much potential throw it all into the shithole for nothing. Come on...Rose McGowan ain't worth it, brother! (But then again, I'm not even sure they're still an item.)
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There was something on SCI -FI WIRE about SIN CITY 2 being on hold because the rights are up in the air? I also would imagine he and Frank Miller would have to decide if they want to co-direct again. Mickey Rourke doesn't want to play Marv again or is too busy? There are several rumors as to why SC2 is being delayed... <br /><br />BARBARELLA is on hold because the studio wanted him to cast a more bankable name than Rose Macgowan if they're going to shell out $100 Million to make it. I would imagine RED SONJA may be on hold for a similar reason? <br /><br />RR isn't doing anything but plotting out his next few movies. It could be 5 years before some of these are released. Guillermo Del Toro is doing the same thing and nobody's hating on him. He's got two HOBBIT movies, one of the TINTIN movies (Spielberg's directing another one) and an HP LOVECRAFT project all on his plate if memory serves. RR is just trying to keep his people busy and on the payroll.
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And, he also seems fully committed. His level of dedication cannot be questioned.
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I'm not questioning his courage or resolve. Looking back at his resume, it's pretty safe to say that he has nothing to prove. What I want is for the guy to just MAKE ANOTHER MOVIE!!! C'mon, develop, develop, develop all you want, but get out there and get something on the big screen, man. Having all this stuff in development, whether he intends on producing, directing or both, is pointless unless he can get something made. At this point, I'd bet my money that MACHETE will be the next Robert Rodrigues project to hit the screen (whether hew directs it or not), mainly because it's not some project that is either a) a sequel, b)something licensed from someone else, or c) a remake. Maybe it's time to stop focusing on other peoples stuff and concentrate on getting something of his own out there. Of course, when it comes down to brass tacks, that's pretty much true of the entire film industry right now. Quite the quandry, eh?
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The Predator homeworld on location? Just busting you man, I'm with you 100%...practical sets and locations whenever and wherever possible. Rodriguez should cast 1 or 2 big or sorta-big names in this along with a handful of no-names and kill the two stars within the first 30 minutes. That would be old-school and audiences would have to figure out who in the hell was going to survive it. This is also the acceptable way to put a hot "ass-kicking" chick in the movie without making it lamer than crackers and warm juice...by casting someone like Rosario or Rose. Have them appear to kick Predator ass for oh, a generous thirty seconds, and then end up as a wet red stain on the wall. (Which, granted, would happen to me as well.) Audiences would see this as a subtle sign that this is a movie not to be fucked with--unlike 90-pound Milla taking on ZombieWorld and walking away unscathed.
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It's frustrating to read about new 'developing' projects and not seeing them, I agree. I'm anxious to see him put work out. I admire his work ethic (and recipes—those breakfast tacos are incredibly addictive) and his results. I dig your passion, hell, I'm fired up about the possibility of what he'll come up with.
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A-FUCKING-MEN TO THAT! Leave all the preconceptions and cliches behind and make this hard and nasty! I'm tired of all the cookie-cutter crapola that calls itselfscary these days. C'mon, Robert, gives us a movie that has a big hairy sack and ain't afraid to show it off!
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...what the hell makes this movie a "reboot" of the franchise? What's going to make it a total restart of the continuity, and not just a sequel? Are they redesigning the Predator or some shit?
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He mentions only working with the director on the "coolest scenes." That's not directing, that's being a hands-on producer. That's directing in the same sense that Quentin Tarantino directed "Sin City."
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Y'know when I find a director whose films I enjoy, I always find myself looking forward to what they'll do next. For quite awhile, i remember hearing Rodriguez' name attached to a new CONAN project, and THAT was something that really got my blood boiling. But it went nowhere, and now the CONAN project is apparently in the hands of Brett Ratner. I have to admit that much of my previous excitement has dissipated. Also, I seem to remember RR being attached to A PRINCESS OF MARS at one time. Again, terrific possibilities but now in the hands of someone else. I hope that PREDATORS is the one he doesn't let slip through his grip.
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I want him to Rock. That. Isht.
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April 24, 2009, 11:55 p.m. CST
RR likely has the good sense to not fuck with the design...
by MCVamp
Doing anything more than giving each Predator distinct markings or tattoos would lead to the weak stumpy Predators-In-Name-Only of AvP or worse, something like the hybrid Alien in Alien Resurrection. I'm sure there are a lot of former basketball players who could play Predators at the classic 7ft size. Hell, Brian Grant wouldn't even need a wig.
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In the hands of Robert Rodriguez-whether directing or producing-the movie has the potential to be something really good. That is, as long as the brain-dead goons at 20th Century Fox keep their slime mits out of the creative end of it and let the Man do his work. THEN and only then will we get the kickass movie that we all want this to be. But, if the past is prologue, the scmucks at Fox will inevitably find a way to fuck up the whole shebang.
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LEAVE THE CREATURE DESIGN ALONE!!! Concentrate on the characters and the story. Oh, and make sure that Alan Silvestri scores the movie.
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and RR is always under budget, so I don't think they'd interfere with him. Any director he hires will be on the same page and adapt to his methods. Hell, they might even workshop on the 'Rodriguez method' before shooting.
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I don't know how much longer Schwarzenegger has left in office, but I've been hearing rumblings that it ain't long, and that he has no intention of pursuing it further. It also sounds like he wants to get back to being in movies. If the timing is right, this would be THE perfect return-to-greatness vehicle for Arnold. C'mon, ya can't tell me that the idea of him returning as Dutch Schaefer isn't mind-numbingly AWESOME! Maybe this would be the film where he teams with Sly Stallone-the ultimate action movie fan dream come to fruition. Those two facing off against some of the meanest mother fucking creatures ever conceived is almost enough to make one's brain overload. Okay...deep breath...it's just a fantasy. I'll be satisfied if the movie is good, no matter who is in it. I just hope it gets done, by the right people, and doesn't just fall limply into development hell like so many other promising film projects seem to do.
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wuz a guverner 2
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Carl Wethers iz next
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I didn't care for the second predator at all.I still remember going to see the first one at the theater with my grandparents and aunt and uncle from new hampshire.it was amazing.
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means I won't sleep tonight. We NEED him on the big screen again.
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I know they broke up, but I thought they were pretty intent on making it.
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I don't want a Predator movie made relatively quick! This franchise demands some extra time and care and respect be paid to it, damnit!
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There are no real nuggets of knowledge to be gleaned from this chit-chat.
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I mean, he's one of the ultimate fanboys who has made it as a filmmaker, and he's done it in such a well-budgeted way that it allows him to basically have his own toys- cameras, soundstages, FX software- which boils down to having artistic freedom. <p> Its EXTREMELY admirable. <p> Then he cheated on his wife with Rose McGowan, attached himself to 23 different projects, and started losing his own integrity. I've lost respect for him, and stories like this one do not inspire confidence anymore.
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Uuuuhhh.....It's Fox.<p> PG-13.
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"We'd create new otherworldly characters while not taking away from the draw our main Predator has."<p> I don't think that's possible. It's like saying you'll make a movie with a whole planet full of Freddy Kruegers and it won't take away from the "main" Freddy. It reminds me of that old Monty Python skit with the whole town full of Supermen. Also makes me think of the Chronicles of Riddick, which utterly dissolved everything interesting about the one unique character under a mountain of tacked-on BS.<p>On top of that, you have a predator world that's a jungle, but it's on a soundstage. Why knock off what's already been done, and then do it on a soundstage?<p>I hope there's a brilliance to all of this that I don't see, but so far I'm standing by my conclusion from the earlier talkback: Predator is a story that cannot be effectively expanded on.
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Damn You Michael Bay
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Things like this, Rob Zombie's Halloween, the SW prequels, Indy 4, and others seem to point to a possible truism that follow-up films made too long after the original movie(s), or too detached from the original creative process, never really work.<p>Call me naive, but it seems like there's a sort of artistic purity, continuity, spark of sorts that hovers around for a while after the original film, that allows the same excitement to be captured and furthered.<p>But it's a short time, and it can only be carried a short way further. I can still remember the imagination-dazzling concept of ROTJ sequels back in the mid-80s, yet somehow the essence was just lost with the dreadful SW novels and prequels that followed.<p>It takes a monumental meeting of inspiration and talent for something like Aliens to work so well. Offhand I can't think of anything separated further than that which really hit the artistic target.<p>When decades pass and entirely different creative teams try to expand on someone else's inspired vision, success is an iffy prospect.
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http://www.sendspace.com/pro/m1ust0 Its a full screenplay so I dont know why he's referring to it as a treatment?
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who knows what he means? i'm sure there are more than just predators on the predator planet. there would probably be other types of life unless they hunted them to extinction
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what about Star Trek? show went off the air in what, 1969? motion picture came out in 80? khan in 82
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...is the date Fox has just announced for this: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/schedule/?view=changes&p=.htm Which is bizarre, given that Rodriguez is talking about it right there as though it's still a long ways off.
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very few others have. On their own terms I'd say Rocky Balboa and Rambo were more successful than Terminator 3, Live Free or Die Hard or Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
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is about an illiterate guy who thought he was making a really intense film but is actually just putting nerves onto a rack. Oh and to the guy who asked about Shane Black's jokes - he was asked to polish up the script and liked it so much he wrote himself a part. So, yeah, he did write his own jokes. What a legend.
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The movie he was gonna make based on his experiences being a guinea pig for medical testing to earn up the money to make El Mariachi? I remember in his book he talked about making a movie like that.
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April 25, 2009, 2:49 a.m. CST
"re-invent the Predator franchise using the treatment as a guide
by Jesiah
What's there to re-invent? Most people's knowledge re: predators is predators have dreads, predators see in a different spectrum, and their use of the word motherfucker is amusing. Don't tell me we're gonna get an origin story where the Predator species gets punked and bullied on their galactic block, making them go on an interstellar columbine.
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A description they have over at ComingSoon.net: "Nerveracker" is set in the year 2085 and centers on the character Joe Tezca, part of an elite unit who is sent in to stop a crime wave amongst a perfect futuristic society. In the process, he discovers that "Nerverackers" are on a rampage for control of the city. Tezca consequently sets forth on a mission to reveal the cover up by the ruling class and stop the "Nerverackers" before time runs out.
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I'd fucking hate it if the producer walked onto my soundstage, picked up a camera and "co-shot" the coolest scenes with me.
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April 25, 2009, 3:26 a.m. CST
Anyone got a link to the workprint of this?
by The_Man_Behind_The_Curtain
I wanna fuck Fox over as much as I can, and if I can watch this early and without giving that undeserving son of a bitch Rothman my hard earned cash, even though it ain't actually been shot yet, i'll be a happy man.<p>Sorry Robert but you're about to become a casualty in my war against Fucks....er. Fox.
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April 25, 2009, 3:35 a.m. CST
RR left the DGA so he could give Miller co-director credit
by JuanSanchez
And now he seems to be addicted to it.
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I'm excited about him getting involved since at least it means taking PREDATOR seriously again and trying to give it to somebody interesting instead of just tossing out another shitty versus movie. But I think it's time to take a break from the green screen shit, fellas. It was fun for you guys to do, I'm sure, but I think the world is ready for movies where somebody is standing in an actual place doing things, not just faking it.<p> I mean good for him, going from "I'm volunteering for medical experiments to get money for a straight to video Mexican action movie" to "I just tricked Fox into letting me shoot the new PREDATOR movie at my house," but still. Don't fuck this one up, Rodriguez.<p> I hope he's not doing MACHETE at his house too, that would be sad. Sometimes you gotta go out into the world and explore, man.
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He says it's a re-invention, but if Arnie gets involved it becomes a sequel.
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and possibly Michael Clarke Duncan carying a double-barrel gatling gun.
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with the opening scene having him killed and dickblood spilled all over the screen, fading into the PREDATORS logo.
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Seriously--why not--use REAL sets, shoot on location (some? please?) and hire Yao Ming to be Tall Predator 101? C'mon it could work---<p> I like the atmospheric, noir-esque attempts there by TS(TM) that RR tried, but dang a little of that went an AWFUL long ways. I'd hope this was shot closer to the way McTiernan did it back in the day than say, SkyCrapton or whatever.
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...Fox announced yesterday that it's being released next July,they'd better get a fucking move on with the story etc!
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shoulda got Stallone to shoot it, at least he'd respect it and do it justice. please don't fuck this up rodriguez. get neil marshall as your co director or some shit.
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Cause when he put his Mexican dick in that whore Rose McGowan he lost the best producer he ever had... his wife!! She was obviously the brains and the voice of reason behind RR success. Everything since then has been shit!!!
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Studios are scared shit of R rated movies thesedays. I wouldn't even consider illegally downloading anything with "Predator" in the title, let along buy a ticket, unless it was hardcore NC17. I want crushed skulls, naked whores and dead children. If it don't deliver on any of these count this crazy son of a bitch out.
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and it MUST BE MADE.
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Within this short interview you've already started breaking some of the rules that made the first flick great. A Predator goes to another world to hunt for sport or initiation. They kill, skin, and make trophies. Why would they even remotely be interested in taking a pet back home? You likely wouldn't have a deer as your pet but you sure as shit might hang it's head on the wall. My suggestion is that you par back on the alien galleria and galaxy traipsing. This isn't Star Wars. Respect the source material and the rules laid forth by the first two flicks. Maybe even get a hold of Jim and John Thomas. They must be a wealth of information on the character, his traits, and home world. And for all that is holy! Drop that ignorant "s" from the title and involve Stan Winstons people somehow.
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This movie should be every aging action star that didn't make it into the expendables. Team should be led by Ventura. Cast Carl Weathers, Chuck Norris, Seagul, and Van Damme. Have them track a bunch of predators while being tracked. Done deal. Explosions, booby traps, one liners and cheesy music.
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Now all hope for a Predator franchise is out the window. RR is so overrated.
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I like Robert Rodriguez's films, but he's a B-movie director. I don't mean that in a pejorative way because there are plenty of B-movies that I really like. His Sin City was great and so was Mariachi. Hell, I even like Once Upon a Time in Mexico. <p> However, this calls for a different kind of director. Someone who is meticulous and wants to craft entire worlds. Rodriguez is someone who shoots his films by the seat of his pants and on a whim. It has been working for him so far, but it won't work for this project.
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tee hee
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The character who made the first AVP work so well. And who, when you think about it, was the inspiration for 2005 King Kong. The Predators aren't monsters; they're clannish hunters, and forgetting how tight they are as a crew was the *big mistake* Paul Anderson made. Broken Tusk is a family man, loyal to a fault to his clan. Show us female Predators (make them fierce, but not ugly--those big mandibles should be just for males), and obedient Predator children. Think a made-up Patrick Swayze in "Next of Kin". Arnie's boys are a crew, and so match them against the Predators. Make us root for and boo for both sides.
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... like all their Sci-Fi franchises.. they cant help themselves..they think money first..art, well hardly at all
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they even understood that in Pred2
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full of good action/grunt one liners. i did feel like it was a hybrid of ALIENS and PREDATOR script, it was very 80's in it's attitude. i wonder how much this script got around in the 90's, because kenner had a line of predator toys seemingly based exactly on RR's predators....there was a king, a renegade, and a predator toy that wore black armor.....coincedence?
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April 25, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST
From the guy who brought you Spy Kids 3...
by The_Man_Behind_The_Curtain
Yeah, I'm excited about this. The only thing that could make me more excited is knowing i'm going to die before this is released and my childhood gets raped all over again.
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rules
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but I don't like any of his movies. No chance this movie is significantly better than Predator 2, which really isn't bad as far as most sequels go - they tried something different than the first film, even if they did lift whole parts from Aliens.
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...and just get a movie made already. Enough talk. The list of projects you've had "in development" is about as long as John Holmes' cock. Just get down to business and work some of that Rodriguez magic on one of these flicks. Show everyone that you are a filmmaking force to be reckoned with, not just another big talker. I DO hope that this PREDATORS project comes to fruition, and that it's a film that truly lives up to its potentail and isn't another cookie cutter disappointment. Get your Texas ass in gear and get it done already!!!
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PREDATOR 2 ain't a bad movie when you think about it. Sure, I would rather have seen Arnold go up against the predators once again, but putting the film into asn urban setting was a novel idea, it was full of cool action scenes, and the cast was pretty damn cool. Danny Glover, Gary Busey, Bill Paxton, Ruben Blades and Maria Conchita Alonso were not bad at all. Hey, a movie that has Morton Downey Jr. can't be all bad!!!
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...and pointy tipped shoes. and there needs to be precocious predator children.
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Sorry, I ain't Robert Rodriguez, but I have to say your idea kicks MAJOR ASS!!! The only thing I would change is that the final confrontation between Statham (or whoever) and the Predator leader should be a fight of epic proportions. Now THAT would be one HELL of a PREDATOR flick!!! Maybe they outa get YOU to write it. I'd be FIRST in line!
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it just sounds like Planet Terror. It is the title of a not serious movie people will soon forget, just like Planet Terror. I do believe a title has bigger effect on a movie than most people would realize and it has a negative effect. It is not a shame to change/improve your own idea, Robert. It is called wisdom. Am I alone with this?
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but I think around 25 minutes into the movie in the village the Statham character should be captured alive and taken to the predator homeworld. There could have been an Arnie cameo as a statue of the champion of the preador running man games.
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who is kept as a pet :)
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Is that the new way of saying "I'm gonna half-ass it"?
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the Predators could be written by AICN Talkback exclusive. Ok, no more posts today.
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http://marketsaw.blogspot.com/2009/04/james-camerons-avatar-set-photo-scans.html
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I know a few others have mentioned it, but that's NOT what RR says. <br><br>Hope he makes a kick ass, movie, though!
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a reasonable sequel. At first I found it disappointing after how awesome the first film was, but I caught it on television a while ago and I think it is better than Alien 3 and 4, and miles ahead of the "versus" films.
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So with Geocities gone Vern, that is sage advice for you as well...
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Think of the profits...
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April 25, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST
Sounds good. but i dont think i want an expanded universe
by BMacSmith
i really dont want to know aout Predator homeworlds, origins, culture, or any of that shit. how many times has that destroyed great villains? keep him mysterious, please. keep it small. keep the efects to a minimum. and for the love of all that is holy, DONT REBOOT PREDATOR! why reboot it? why get rid o the history? why not just make a sequel? please dont remake it. <P>thats just how i would do it. Please dont fuck it up. Predator is my Star Wars.
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too soon?
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whats the point? it has to be shot in the real world.
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to great characters like Vader, Wolverine, Mike Myers, and many more. He should stay unknown. just say no to backstories!
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Finally another Predators movie. Set it in space, PLEASE!
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LOL. "Show us female Predators (make them fierce, but not ugly--those big mandibles should be just for males)" Because Predators would be good looking without those damn mandibles.
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That has got to be the worst story idea I have ever heard. Fierce Predator chicks? I realy hope you don't work in Hollywoood.
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Wasn't there word of a Predator prequel not too long ago?<br><br>I think it was supposed to be about the guys who got killed by the Predator before Dutch's team went in.
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... does that mean he's functionally retarded? It's the only explanation I can come up with.
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1. Arnold has to have SOME part in this. 2. Salma Hayek must be in this, and at some point dish out total fucking destruction with a minigun..whilst wearing a halter top.
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Alex is the man who brought you all the latest Predators along with the new Blockbuster X-Men Origins Wolverine! Robert Rodriguez is the man bringing you all those amazing movies like Shark Boy and Spy kids. Don't forget Once upon a time in Mexico. Yea...Predators should be awesome! 'Nuff said :)
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Never really liked him as a director. Sin City was good but that was Frank Miller's doing. This guy is EXTREMELY overrated. Have not been impressed with anything since El Mariachi
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Robert Rodriguez is a big budget Roger Corman. Plain and simple. Self Indulgent Mediocre talent at best. He wants to be Quentin soooo bad and tries to copy him but it doesnt work. He gets movies made cheap because he wears all the hats. Director, producer, writer, composer, VFX Supervisor..you name it. He does this to hog all the money himself and produces CRAP! It's crap because he doesn't delegate to other talented people. WHy do you think people like Ridley Scott are geniuses? Because they surround themselves with Genius artists. DP's VFX people, writers. Best of the best! Robert Rodriguez is that guy with the bass drum and cymbals between his knees and the harmonica around his neck trying to play Mozart. Really sad.
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due to the death of Bea Arthur
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Robert has made many good films. It's is idiots like you who think you know everything under the sun, when you don't know shit. Your the same crap loser fan that says Transformers 2 is shit, then you fucking go see it. Not all of Rodriquez's films have been good, but not too many people can have as good a record as Miyazaki-san. As for Scott, the last few films of his have been crap, so what the fuck are you talking about you loser fuck!
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http://tiny url.com/y2f3ro ..Batman takes on The Joker, Aliens, & Predators Or Search Youtube for Batman VS Predator
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Transformers 2 Revenge of the LaDouche IS SHIT! A big steaming pile of donkey shit!
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is he talking Planet of the Apes style reboot or Aliens/Star Trek II style difference in tone....im guessing the latter so maybe no reboot?<p>
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Even if it's only for a smaller return of his Dutch role, Arnold should be brought back. Rodriguez always said his # 1 star he'd love to work with is SCHWARZENEGGER. What a perfect film for Rodriguez to get Arnold in since he thought back in the 90's that he could pull out a great performance in Arnie. Arnie also told Fox producer John Davis he would love to do more PREDATOR films. Arnold should make a two picture deal with Fox and make PREDATORS & TRUE LIES 2. Maybe Arnold will agree to work with Rodriguez if he shoots in California and if the script is on the level of John McTiernan's PREDATOR film.
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what fucking planet do you live on? notice how many films arent getting green lit, and how studios are looking for every break imaginable?<p> WE ARE IN A FUCKING DEPRESSION<p> an on location, big star, effects laden, sci fi film will cost over 200 mil<p> think it will still get an r rating??? fuck no<p> green screen could cut the budget significantly...and the r rating stays<p> wonder if he has ever seen the dark horse comic...which was 10 times better than the shit sequel, or any of the vs films
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especially now hes famous again thanks to Danny Glovers Dick Blood <p> Arnold and Glover as the main guys or cameos i dont care which<P> have them take on the Predators heading a Colonial Marine style unit...
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in an ideal world they wouldve made AvP in 1997 instead of the turd that was Alien 4 and instead of Andersons woeful AvP script set on earth present day itd have been set post Alien 3 on another planet and just adapted the first run of the AvP comic series.<p> then just left it as a standalone movie (no *beep* AvP 2) <p> then Cameron and Scott wouldve made Alien '4' in 2002/2003 (Cameron scripting/producing, Scott directing)..as they were planning Alien '5' around then before FOX went with Andersons crappy AvP instead <p> plus they wouldve already made this 'Predators' <p> oh yeah and in an ideal world we wouldve had Cameron writing/directing the third and final Terminator film set in 2029...a 2 1/2 hr film - they'd have had to have explained how the war still happens after the Conners efforts to stop it in T2 in the first 10 mins or so (an opening prologue like T2s with Hamilton VO)...then deleve straight into the future war (steel blue night future war)...showing the end of the war and Skynets defeat (red eyes going out on all Terminators)...the climax wouldve been Conner and co breaking into Skynet and finds all the Arnold terminators in an assembally line with one missing....then heading to the time displacement area and discovering the T1 T800 and T1000 had been sent back and then wed see Reese going back then the T2 Arnold...(in fact they could show resse geting sent back...THEN have the T1000 appear and take everyone out and fatally wounds Conner then gets on the time chamber and goes back...then the dying conner reprogrammes the T2 T800 and send it back to follow) <p> maybe the film wouldve ended with the T2 T800 in the time chamber, kneeling - about to be sent back...camara fades to black..terminator theme kicks in <p> (basically the opening chapters of the T2 novel being made into a film - which was intended to be the extended T2 opening) <p> thatd wouldve been good in 1995 or 96 (post True Lies/pre Titanic) or even 1999 (post Titanic)...who for Conner then? - an big name actor in their 40s as itd be set 2029..so Mel Gibson? Liam Neeson? Daniel Day Lewis?...plus ud have Arnold in there a various points (actually maybe just a cameo at the end) and maybe a glimpse of Robert Patrick as the T1000..and Hamilton would just be a cameo in the opening - maybe even just VO <P> like we sorta getting now expect McG/PG13/2018
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ALL of robert rodriguez's movies suck so he'll be sure and make this one a giant festering turd as well, you just wait. I love how he's "co-directing" everything now so he can blame the other asshole he works with when the movie eventually tanks. Oh yeah, and I've know SEVERAL people that have worked for Troublemaker and EVERY one of them has had nothing good to say about the egomaniacal prick. And waiters that i know say he's a shitty tipper...
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i guess Alien Predator and Terminator will always be forever linked
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forgot that
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people saying a movie called Predator or Alien should focus on the humans and not the creature so "we" have someone to pull us in and then a movie called Transformers is shit because it did just that. interesting.
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anyone up for that? the real DG cud get wounded in the dick from fighting a predator (like at end of P2) and wed see his dickblood drip down on the ground...maybe he could go 'im too old for this dickblood shit!' ... nice shout out to AICNs most famous talkbacker...kinda like Kev Smiths warlock thing in Die Soft 4...getting the net nerds on the films side
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"DAHHH!!! I CAN TELL IF SOMEONE IS KEYED IT!!! DAHHHHHHH!!! IT BREAKS MY ILLUSION! DAAAAH!!!" Shut up, and watch the movie, please.
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You see more complex things going on behind the actors, not a fucking paper mache set. I swear to God, the way people put physical effects on some sort of fucking pedestal is fucking mind blowing. It should be about seeing cool and interesting visuals on screen that you can see anywhere else, not complaining about "being fake". God, nobody fucking cares and you're fighting a losing battle and shut the hell up.
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never realistic. Im not one of those "bring back puppets and guys in rubber suits" losers, but CG is still very hard to get right. No fucking way could RR make a movie as gritty and realistic as the first two Predators with green screen.
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April 25, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST
Is there any proof that Arnold wants to do a Predator movie?
by BMacSmith
he didnt want to be a part of it after the first, and i think he likes being Terminator more. He's too political now for any hard R horrors now. I think you are all dreaming.
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April 25, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST
If Lost can afford to shoot in the jungle, Predators can
by JuanSanchez
Obviously there will be some CGI, just don't do the sets 100% CGI. Build some sets and shoot on location wherever possible.
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This isn't rocket science, dude...
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April 25, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST
I agree. An Arnold/Glover team up would rock.
by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD
As long as there is a scene where Glover growls "I gotchooo."
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For me, the predators and aliens don't have individual personalities. they're the somewhat generic monster to overcome whereas the Transformers all have their own characters. to me, the transformers should've been the main characters because they ARE the main characters. Look at the various comics and movies. they are the stars.
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Sonny Landham- That big injun cat was bad ass- with the 12 gauge pump mounted on his M-16! Hell, maybe Tyler Mane could tote the Mini Gun. Sigh- If he could only deliver the lines as charismatically as Gov. Jess with a big chaw in his mouth: "This stuff makes you a goddamn sexual Tyranosaurus- like me."
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george washington shooting musket balls at predator. in predator 2 they had almost unlimited artillary, by the end of predator 1 alls arnold had was his cunning, go back to to that concept.
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<p>It would take place in Las Vegas, present time.</p> <p>A captive Predator is being held prisoner in Area 51.</p> <p>The surviving guy from Busey's team in Predator 2 is now leader of such team. They're in charge of researching this captive Predator and adapting his technology to US soldiers.</p> <p>Two young Predators are sent in a rescue mission as a rite of passage. But they're not there to rescue their companion, but to eliminate him, since he was weak enough to get caught.</p> <p>Ergo, we have two Warrior-like Predators chasing down a Hunter-like Predator. Its the battle of generations.</p> <p>Eventually, a Predatrix pops into the mix. They're said to bigger, stronger and more brutal than male Predators.</p> <p>In the end of the movie, military hero guy uses Predator technology, and even the nuclear bracelet. He blows up the Predador ship, laughing as he does it.</p> <p>However, one of the Predators also manages to use his bracelet, and blow up Las Vegas.</p> Call me up and we'll talk more, RR.
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no. fail. Predators dont even have sex. they just kill shit.
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<p>Alright, fuck the female Predator.</p><p>Or... she could just make a cameo at the end, like the elder Predator in part 2.</p><p> We're just tossing thoughts on the table, anyway..</p>
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First off, his character's dead. Second, he'd rather surf and hang out with his family in Mexico, where his solar house lets the power company pay him. That's a smart motherfucker.
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while not on Holy Predator 1 level i agree it's better than ailen 3/4 and lets not even consdier the joke vs. films in this discussion.
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Movies are one of the things doing BETTER in this economy. But if they can't afford to make a real Predator movie then they should forget about it and make some intimate dramas or low budget comedies about Kate Hudson and weddings. I don't have a problem with green screens being used sometimes (obviously they're useful for many effects) but any time a movie is shot entirely not on location - SKY CAPTAIN, SIN CITY, ATTACK OF THE CLONES, the fucking SPIRIT - it looks distractingly flat and artificial. And if he's trying to make it look like a real jungle it's gonna be even less convincing. But I don't know, maybe he has some jungle in "Troublemaker Studios."<p> I think if he is willing to leave his house though he could do a good job. ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO had lots of digital effects that I didn't notice at all.
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April 26, 2009, 3:35 a.m. CST
Much of JP3 shot on a set - but they actually built a jungle
by JuanSanchez
At least build a jungle if you must do it on a set. I still think it would be much better to go on location. Stallone was able to do Rambo '08 in the jungle for less than 2 and 3 cost. Hell, you could even move it to the woods rather than a jungle. Lot of places you could shoot that near LA for Pete's sake. If RR ends up shooting this all in front of a green screen - he's a fucking moron. I'll drive to Texas and beat him with a tack hammer.
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millenium's Nancy Allen (a BARBARELLA remake...seriously?). And thanks for the shamless plugs--ad infinitum--for Troublemaker Studios.
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April 26, 2009, 4:06 a.m. CST
Nancy Allen, Sheri Moon Zombie, Milla Jovovich, Mia Farrow
by JuanSanchez
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id thought hed be all over this TB like some dickblood from DG<p> regarding Predator 2 - i always thought it was a great movie - not as good as P1 obviously but still way ahead of the crappy Alien 4 and even Alien 3...and way better than the AvPs of course. <p> also it was (at the time) probably the most hard core mainstream R film ever (more so than any Terminators, Aliens or even the previous Predator which was pushing the rating)...mass drug taking - "Come and get it!"...hard core sex scene...F bombs and MoFos galore...plentiful gore and ultra violence...<p> P2 and maybe Total Recall...oh and Robocop 1/2 were all HARD Rs...probably nearly NC17s...<p> no way theyd do dat today huh?
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April 26, 2009, 5:08 a.m. CST
i kinda wish it was still 1990...there was something about that
by mr sulu
cant quite put my finger on it but i get abit misty when i think back to 1990...maybe it was youth and pining for that but i look back and think about the summer of 1990..and the films that were out about then and being unable to see them as too young - Total Recall, P2, Robo 2, DH 2 (all Rs) etc...plus visiting the comic stores to pick up all the adaptaions and movie magazines, superman comics of that era, etc...keeping upto date on the rumours of T2, star trek VI (academey movie or last one with the old cast) in Starlog and the star trek DC comics at the back etc<p> i miss those times...innocent times...no problems...life was simple and good....
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I have no intention to see avatar, but did you guys read about Guillermo del Toro being interested in Camerons 3D cam technology? Fuck that shit, 3D will be dead (again) two years from now. Or maybe shit like BOLT or SPY KIDS will still be in 3D...but talk about making the HOBBIT 3D or something needs to stop right now! Same goes for fucking green screen. Of course you can use the technology, but please stop making whole movies at your fucking house!
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But if you're gonna go green, go all the way like they did in Sin City, Casshern or Speed Racer. Nothing worse than a film not shot on green screen, but with the odd, ill-disguised green screen shot popping up every now and then; just annoying enough to take you out of the movie the moment you start getting involved. Shots from inside moving vehicles are the worst. I mean, fuck, just strap a fucking camera to the car and shoot. It's been done for decades, and it won't look like shit in a few years' time. Lazy fuckers.
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How did you come up with that name?…its so obscure and ‘out there’… why Danny Glover? Such an obscure choice… Obviously it wouldn’t be someone like Shatner or Bale or Hoff as thatd be too obvious…<p> Its like if youd called yourself Bill Cosbys Dick Blood…or Edward Fox’s cock tubes or Alan Rickmans Ballcream or whatever <P> Really weird but possibly ingenious <P>
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"I have no intention to see avatar" - the most ridiculous thing i've read on aicn today. Thanks.
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Star Trek = yes...T4 = yes...Avatar = not so much...i'll obviously probably go see it but it aint on my 'must see' list...depends on the reviews really - if early reviews say its a great/a masterpiece etc then i'll be there for sure...if its the new Abyss then i'll catch it on dvd
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There are certain films that were successful on green screen only sets. So long as the film was trying to create an otherworldly, pulp feel then I believe it is acceptable. Sin City and Sky Captain are good examples of well accomplished green screen only films. That's not to say they don't have their flaws, just that they accomplished what they wanted to accomplish.
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April 26, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST
I agree with those saying it's not a long enough time...
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
...to make a "Predator" movie. 14 months? I don't think so. Given that there's no script or director yet, and assuming it's written fairly quickly, the earliest they can start shooting would about around October, (leaving them very little time to cast, and potentially built the Predators, although I get the impression they'll be 100% CGI, which will SUCK). Assuming they wrap around December, that would only give them six months for post-production, which would be doubly damning since they'd have to release any trailers or promotional work with unfinished CGI. It just doesn't sound doable...Maybe they should hire Dennis Muren and ask for the "War of the Worlds" schedule. I'm sure he'd be ecstatic. BTW, I also agree that practical locations or a soundstage are the way to go, rather than greenscreen, and for Serling's sake, bring back Stan Winston's people already, (currently operating under the less-than-stellar name "Legacy Effects"). How awesome it would be to see a bunch of new Winston Predators again, for the first time since 1990. If not Winston, then get Sandy Collora, (the guy who did Batman: Dead End)...
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http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/431436 Time for Harry to go? PLEASE VOTE!
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Just rather than it being about Dutch being taken back to the homeworld to be a gladiator, have a new protagonist get taken back and have him meet a haggard, battle-worn old Dutch in the arena, previously abducted decades ago, who helps him escape or whatever. To add an extra layer of awesome, have Dutch even wearing the Predator outfit.
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April 26, 2009, 12:17 p.m. CST
^^Probably too Beneath the Planet of the Apes...
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
...And The People That Time Forgot. But I wouldn't mind seeing Human soldiers decked out in armor reverse engineered from the Predator tech. Could be kind-of cool.
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he's shaving his face...with no lotion!!!!
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Hurt like hell.
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love it!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJn4r09I0s0 This shows you everything. He is a jack of all trades, master of none. While it is a dream for anyone to be able to have complete control over their films,and it is, it doesn't mean you are talented enough in all those disciplines to create a work of art. Spreading yourself this thin just means you are Crapping out movies for the $$$$. Weinsteins love him cause he makes movies for nothing, that is why they leave him alone and don't interfere, he is making them rich! This ISN'T quality filmaking! Make a Blair witch for 40k and sell it for a million and then a studio makes 50 mil translates into amazing profit. Doesn't mean it's good quality! Craftsmanship is slowly becoming a lost art. Greed is killing art too. This is a perfect example of the "Rock N Roll" director I don't really care about making a real movie lifestyle. It's masturbation. His legacy will be turning out shitty movies and making studio execs rich. Thats it! modern day Roger Corman.
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April 26, 2009, 6:11 p.m. CST
Coming Soon, the sequel to Fast & Furious: Fast & Furiouses
by Photoman
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April 26, 2009, 6:12 p.m. CST
Ok, anyone else think that making a title plural for a sequel is
by Photoman
I think it's just laziness. Going all the way back to Alien/Aliens
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In all seriousness though, it'd be great if someone could do for PREDATOR what Cameron did for ALIEN ... I just don't see it happening.
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I agree with most everyone here. Enough with the damn digital sets. When your actors have nothing to interact with but a tennis ball on the end of a stick you get Revenge of the Sith. Of course this IS Fox. You could could give McTiernen a 6 month shoot with an unlimited budget, cross it with Aliens, and bring back Weaver, Biehn, and Arnold and it would still end up 85 minutes of the most excruciating PG-13 level shit imaginable. Requiem was simply atrocious. That movie didn't even look FINISHED.
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I love RR, but lately everything has so Digitally motivated I haven't been interested. Predator was so damn cool because they were shooting in the jungle on 45 deg angle hills in the humidity and generally having a shitty time. And that transferred onto film perfectly. Sticking a few pot plants in front of a blue screen just won't cut it these days. Oh yeah, if you dare include even one CG predator you're dead to me.
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the way he signed rose mcgowan for everything he was attached to at the time<p> I don't trust his judgment anymore
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all others, unless its a highly stylized movie like Sin City or 300, should be banned.
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because the greenscreen Kong shots during the Bronto stampede, which looked like the characters were on treadmills in front of a projection, were completely convincing. ;)
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Maybe it is just me, but I'm tired of reliving my youth via adaptations, sequels, prequels and reboots. Fine - I'd far prefer Dark Knight to what I took for entertainment back in the day; but it is the exception that proves the rule. Also, let's just give it a break for awhile with these superhero movies - here again, Iron Man was great, but Green Lantern? The Avengers? meh. Anyone remember Primer a few years back? No budget, little hard to follow, but I'd far prefer something cheap and challenging to yet another Predator movie.
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does that partly explain my animosity for RR, Rob Zombie, JJ Abrams and others? Maybe.
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I have it. That movie gets me thinking about interesting stuff every time I watch it.
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looked good to me.
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...of course, what made the Star Trek films, at their best, so good was the presence of the original cast and original creator, even many years after the TV series ended. That would be hard to do with Predator, but I'd be a lot more interested in this if McTiernan/Glover/Schwarzenegger/etc. were attached.<p>It might be better if Rodriguez was just trying to make a follow-up in the same spirit as the old Predator flicks. But someone completely unrelated coming along 20 years later and trying to tell the backstory of someone else's creation? I just don't buy it. It has no validity to me.
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They should at least pit the predator against a CGI Sexual Tyrannosaurus
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It's 30 feet tall, ravenously horny, and makes the Wolf look like a slack-mandibled faggot
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No real info here. AND, is it just me or wasn't Predator just the best B movie of its day. Not really a 'classic'.
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April 27, 2009, 7:08 a.m. CST
Still waiting for a transfer of PREDATOR worthy of Blu-ray.
by JDanielP
Guess it will be a LOOOOOOOOOONNNNNG wait.
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What´s the problem? I prefer directors having fun to bored directors just thinking in money. Rodriguez is not a very good director, but he makes fun movies. And that´s good.
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Search your feelings, you know you want this to be true.
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"You just fucked with the wrong Mexican." "You just fucked with he wrong E.T."
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...Predators have been visiting the Earth for yonks right? So do a film set in the wild west with a Preadator against cowboys- they could even tie in that gun given to Danny Glover at the end of P2 as his prize. Alternatively since this set of films has been so brutally fucked up by the AvP movies perhaps it should be left alone completely? If RR does make it- please limited use of CGI- shoot on location, minimise green screen and make sure you story, script and cast are very good.
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and why didn't he mention machete?
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RR hasn't been good since From Dusk Til Dawn and I think Tarantino writing the script and being there was a major influence for RR to do better which he did. After that movie his films went from B-Movie cool/bad to just flat out fucking terrible. Sin City was a waste of time and effort for everyone involved. The comics were amazing no need for a movie. Predator is over and done with. No need for this movie because it will definitely be green screen and look like fucking shit. I have no doubt in my mind that this movie will not be good.
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... it's too bad he's in a legal mess at the moment. The guys is awesome.
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I may be a little late to the party on this one...but that Jetsons reference was a bigtime old school throwback!<p> You went deep into the vault with that one man. I'm probably the only one here who got that one. In any case, we've both just revealed our relative ages.
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None of his shit holds up worth a damn.
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Totally agree. I was excited it was a new decade and the world was wide open...
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possibilities....endless possibilities...<p> i too long for those times...oh to be transported back to 1990...i could start all over again...and do things right from day one!
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I miss the 90's also. The 2000's have just been one disaster after another. I miss my Yikes pencils... :(
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--besides the immortal 'slack jawed Faggots!' line? <p> That's easy--where they clear cut approximately 100 acres of jungle w/ those 10,000 rounds--pretty cool. Gotta like the Minn gov and his mini gun. <p> Just what we need-a CGI mini gun. GAG.
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I get the impression the idea is that some predators show up, grab Arnold(cause he was victorious) and take him back to the thier home world where the predators throw him in the ring with a bunch of other victourious "aliens" who also defeated them....It will be like gladiator with aliens and Arnold in an alien "most dangeous game" type thing!!!...Sign me up!!!
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predators as an adj...not the noun...are you guys rtards or what?
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2000s sucks shit.
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the 00s have been fucking awful...not just in terms of world events (yeah i know crappy stuff went on in the 90s too but this decade was especially nasty) but in my own personal life too.<p> and the movies havent been that great either...im talking Sci Fi wise...theres been no Total Recall or Starship Troopers or T2 or Matrix this decade or even Undiscovered Country/First Contact...<p> X2, Prestige, Sunshine (and Sith/WOTW/Indy 4 depending on if u like them or no) have been the only decent stuff and none of those are in the classic status of the original Matrix or T2...ok this year it finally looks like its gonna be great for SF with the new Trek, T4 and Avatar but we've had to wait ALL decade...yeah i know we've had Batman and Bond finally become great but those arent SF.<p> ah to suddenly find myself transported back in to my 1990 body - in the comic store flicking thru the latest Dark Horse Alien, Predator comics and picking up the 'The Trial of Kirk' DC trek comics and marvelling at the adverts for the summer movies like P2, Total Recall etc..
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Forgot to mention Dark City - That was another great 90s SF film…fook all of that standard this decade (unless the aforementioned last hopes - Trek T4, and Avatar will blow us away)<p> And I remember being in the comic store in front of all the new Dark Horse AvP comics had just come out in the early 90s and imagining how awesome and cool a AvP movie would be…..and flicking through the latest Superman comics and imagining how incredible a Superman 5 would be with Reeve playing supes again :( fuck you 00s
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I may be in a small minority...but I find myself to be VERY optimistic for the big four in '09.
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That green screen comment had me thinking about INDY4!......yuk.
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See: ALIENS VS PREDATORS. Nobody finds them remotely cool anymore. The first one was classic because you8 did'nt know WHAT that thing was. Now? Little kids have bedroom sets with the images on them. BOOO!
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April 28, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST
Well Rothman says RR has complete creative control...
by Fa_Tass_DinoMolester
But I'd bet money it'll still be 90 minutes or less.
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personally and globally same here. the 90s were fuzzy and full of promise and hope. But hey at least the suckthousands are ending now and the next one shall be the dawn after the dark! the end of a trilogy usually ends well.
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<p>IT IS FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT OF MOVIE, based on some MEDIOCRE VIDEO GAMES, which were based in two AMAZING SCI-FI FILMS.</p><p> They're spin-offs. Shitty spin-offs.</p><p> That would be all.</p>
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The AVP games, particularly the second one, still stand as some of the best pc shooters of the last 10 years. AVP2 is up there with half-life in my book.
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as Havey Dent said ' the night is darkest just b4 the dawn..and i promise you ...the dawn is coming'<p> well maybe it'll be the same for the next decade (the tens? - WTF will we call the next decade?)...if this years movies is any indication for things looking up (and im talking mainly about star trek here...but T4 and Avatar could also be amazing) then we might just be in for something a little better than this godawful decade...<p> imo the sooner we get out of the noughties the better...maybe the world will change a little too - like a fresh start of a new year...<p> its gonna be crazy living in 2010 though! (with no Roy Schinder) i still cant get past the fact its been 2001! and its the 21st Century!...i mean we are living in Sci Fi times..its like something Spock would pontificate about having happened (in what was at the time, our far flung furure) in an old episode 'well Captain, during the third world war of the early 21st century your species developed etc etc' <p> heres hoping next decade will be better though... maybe we'll even see the Alien and Predator franchaises back on track like they hopefully are gonna do with Terminator (and finally managed to do with batman and bond)
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Felt we'd gone too long without one of those.
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and nor should this be. it does not need reinventing...it should be a kick ass sequel plain and simple.
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Yeah, I'm sad we're moving forward without Stan Winston and Michael Crichton, personally. But hopefully the 2010's will be better; the RotJ to the 2000's ESB-type vibe. Unless the Ewoks still like the taste of human flesh.
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You have some of the best sci-fi/action movies like Aliens, Predator, Terminator, Blade Runner, Total Recall, etc. And of course The Empire Strikes back, the best sci-fi movie of all time. Oh and who could forget Buckaroo Banzai.
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I was never scared shitless so many times playing a game. A few times I had to just stop playing because I was actually sweating and shaking a little. The first AvP with no saves and one-shot kills from Predators was especially nerve-racking. My first predator kill in that game was one of my favorite gaming moments.
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movie wise big time...the 80s are THE decade of Sci Fi - each year spewed out about 2 or 3 classic Sci Fi films (Empire, Superman II, Raiders, Escape from NY, Clash of Titans, Mad Max 2, ET, Wrath of Khan, The Thing, Conan, Jedi, Temple of Doom, Search for Spock, Ghostbusters, Terminator, BTTF, Voyage Home, Aliens, Predator, Robocop, Last Crusade, Batman, BTTF II) how the fuck can any decade compete with that load? there are still sequels and prequels and reboots etc of all that going on now and is gonna be going on for quite some time...the 90s paled in comparison...and the 00s aint fit to lick the 80s boots<p> and the 70s killed Elvis so they can go FUCK themeseleves!
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Was horrible. Very juvenile. Why can't they make a serious film? 'Alien' and 'Aliens' are wonderful films that were approached seriously and filmed with characters and artistic integrity. 'Predator' was great because it was an 80's Arnold vehicle and introduced a great alien character.<br><br>'Predator2' had some interesting moments, but more or less came down to showing the trophy room and having more Pred gadgetry.<br><br>Aliens as a film succeeds in that it is a great military film (Cameron's inspiration was in fact 'Starship Troopers'; a novel that truly needs a reboot, 'Generation Kill'-style) in which its characters held up the film.<br><Br>So far, the only people that have maintained and progressed the Predator and Alien mythos, are the AvP Computer games and novels.<bR><Br>The story where the girl's camp is ravaged by Aliens and that the Preds take her with them and she earns her place in their society is quite engaging. You get an insight to the Pred culture.<br><br>Alas, the standard movie audience thinks Pred and Aliens are cinematic peers to 'Jason X' now. Each needs a the hot chick taking off her clothes, adolesant sexual references (sure, 'Predator' had the classic 'Big Pussy' joke, but I don't need an out of place condom analogy Paul Anderson), and general changes to canon (Alien birthing within minutes, Predators being wusses compared to previous films, etc...)<br><br>The treatment of 'PREDATORS' (there is a link to it in this talkback...) needs to be some other Robert Rodriguez film. Don't call the aliens in that treatment Predators...go with something else...because, seriously - it is hack bad. It seems like bad fan-fiction from a 16 year old boy that got done watching 'Heavy Metal' and 'Troll 2' and decided to write about the Predator.
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It would just be wrong.
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but not quality-wise just for darkness. But i agree in the 2010s let's hope we'll be dancing yub nub with ewoks around the forest campfire. Oh and 80s were pure pulp excellence. BTW has anyone noticed 80s action/scifi/fantasy/adventure flicks have this otherworldly feel like when you watch them you know there's further greatness down the road and beyond like this euphoric sense of exploration or wonder?
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I don't know.. after watching Rambo 4, a simple, harsh, balls to the walls action movie, it just feels right. Don't you agree? I mean.. Stallone X Predator. Fuck yeah.
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Yeah maybe he's somewhat of a hack, but at least he's pretty entertaining. I very much enjoyed Sin City, the movie was perfect in pacing, there was nothing missing and nothing further more needed to be added. Hopefully he can help bring Predator back to its form. I'd trust him over the hacks that directed AvP 1 and the brothers who did AvP 2 any day.
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