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The Trailer For Rob Zombie's H2 Might Surprise You...

Beaks here... Let's see... the ghost-white shape mask is gone, the main theme has been jettisoned, and he's gone from scope to flat. Perhaps they should call this one ROB ZOMBIE'S HALLOWEEN, and re-title that '07 abomination SORRY, JOHN. I have not been the biggest Rob Zombie fan, but I'm receptive to the idea that he might one day make a horror movie that truly unnerves. And while I loathed what he did to John Carpenter's classic the last time out, the trailer for H2, which just premiered at Yahoo! Movies, at the very least looks original. The abandoned hospital stuff in the first minute is damned effective. As for the new-look Michael Myers, I've got to say that the hulking drifter look is pretty terrifying. So here's hoping that Zombie doesn't go overboard with campy music cues and distracting celebrity cameos. Okay, it looks like it's too late to cut back on the latter (the IMDb tells me that Howard Hesseman, Margot Kidder and "Weird" Al Yankovic will drop in at some point), but... I'm trying to be positive here. I'm honestly intrigued by this trailer. Thrill me, Rob.

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  • April 24, 2009, 4:10 p.m. CST


    by pdennett316

    hope so

  • April 24, 2009, 4:10 p.m. CST


    by Kief_Ledger


  • April 24, 2009, 4:11 p.m. CST

    looks profoundly stupid

    by hegele

    ot to go into full fledged AINT talkback or IMBD mode but.... That trailer made me laugh so fucking hard. what a crock of shit Zombie has created in the Michael Myers mythos. The mother angle looks profoundly stupid, a tepid way to showcase his wife yet again, it looks like a prepubescent with the cinematic vision of a alcohol/pcp induced metal music video vomited over celluloid. and of course, the title isn't nearly as interesting as promised. i always have hopes he can do something right but i've had it. fuck Rob Zombie.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:12 p.m. CST


    by pdennett316

    A first on a decent TB. As for this, if he's changed everything about it.....why call it Halloween at all? <p> I know it's a purely monetary thing but come on, just create your own thing and jettison the negative press before it starts. Stupid Zombie!!

  • April 24, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Pass the sauce

    by CashGozere

    Because that looks WEAK.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    I don't know what's weirder....


    This trailer not having the signature theme, or my not missing it at all....

  • April 24, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Rob Zombie's Dirty Drifter

    by vic twenty

    I'd see that. Just not as a "Halloween" movie.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:16 p.m. CST

    by DDillustration

    this looks good. Hope it is.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:18 p.m. CST

    he's still wearing the mask

    by IndyAbbey Jones

    at least in a few of the shots...what are you talking about beaks when you say its gone?

  • April 24, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Just watched it....

    by pdennett316

    Looks, stupid really particularly the ghostly white nepotism. <p> Hopefully McDowell is given something better to do than in the first, but I highly doubt it.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Looks Stupid!

    by HerbWestAustin

    Why does he always have to use his wife in all his movies? Just like Tim Burton.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST

    "He has evolved..."

    by loafroaster

    What is he, a fucking mutant? I didn't think it couldn't get any worse than the first one, but fuck that looks awful. A killer-in-the-mirror shot? Wow, how original. And he also managed to find another job for his skanky wife. Fuck Rob Zombie.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    suprising because it's worse than everything ever?

    by spooky2k

  • April 24, 2009, 4:24 p.m. CST

    No Beaks

    by OGoncho

    Just no

  • April 24, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Zombie is a horrible writer

    by IndustryKiller!

    If he is ever going to direct something worthwhile it's got to be something someone else wrote. He just has no ear for dialogue. When he tries to be natural its hammy and when he tries to be cool it's like the worst Tarantino impersonator in the history of film school. His brand of exploitation is always so painful and forced i.e. the hotel room scene in Devils Rejects. Ugh. You can see the poor guy just cannot judge himself.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    I'm Surprised!!!!!

    by landrvr1

    That this douchbag poser is still getting someone to bankroll his piece of shit films. God. He and Shamalamadingdong should make a film together.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:27 p.m. CST


    by imascooby1985

    I actually enjoyed the first one for what it was (Im not a big Halloween fan to begin with, only liked the first one) and I enjoyed the opening minute hospital stuff, but once Myers came on screen it didnt do much for me. Not saying its gonna be bad. Just that the trailer didnt make me feel any desire to see the film. I still cant stand that these are being released in August. Fuck Saw.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    trying to be positive?

    by Raging Dogs Productions

    This is your version of "trying to be positive?" Wow, that's all I have to say.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    looks like Poo poo but

    by StrokerX

    atleast they've discovered a new planet:<p><p>

  • April 24, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    What's the word on Rob's "Tyrannosaurus Rex" flick?

    by Clarence Boddicker

    Now THAT has my attention based on the teaser movie poster alone. "51% Motherfucker...49% Son of a bitch". Count. Me. In.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Wow christ

    by WarpedElements

    This is horrible. Rob I know you sometimes read the chatbacks and don't respond, so I'm going to not try to antagonize you. But what the flying fuck? They tried to 'explain' mike myers in number 6, when they had the black magic cult shit. The story is best left unanswered: he's just a killing machine. He serves no purpose. He just *does*. You fucked that up with the first one by showing him with a fucked up childhood. That was craptastic enough. But now more with the mystical crap? Jesus jumped up christ in a fucking high chair. This is retarded.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Why God Why

    by lockesbrokenleg

    So many shitty Halloween movies. Soo mannny.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Um... No?

    by Viewer 3

    Did we watch the same preview? This looks awful. So the fact that there's no more white mask suddenly makes this look "original" and un-campy? Please... Nothing about this looked remotely original, interesting, disturbing, or even mildly entertaining. I could damn near predict every audio cue in the entire trailer; it's the same sort of tired, recycled "horror" movie trailer routine we've been seeing for years. Only this one is not even cut well. And there isn't a single scene that has the right lighting, the right atmosphere, and the right ambiance to even remotely seem disturbing.<p><p>Surprised? You bet. I was shocked that it failed to meet my already rock-bottom expectations. Especially after the ridiculous build-up of supposed "originality".

  • April 24, 2009, 4:38 p.m. CST

    The Mask

    by mrbeaks

    The classic "Shape" look is definitely gone. It's now a tattered variation on the Phantom mask. I don't mind it. The further Zombie gets away from Carpenter's film, the better.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:39 p.m. CST


    by blakindigo

    If the movie can deliver on the trailers promises it'll be a sterling addition to the genre. His best film is STILL "The Devil's Rejects." It was uneven but, worthwhile. Dammit, just DELIVER, Rob!

  • April 24, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    A TRULY scary mask

    by gavdiggity

    would be a Rocky Dennis one.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST


    by Viewer 3

    Come on, how many times do we have to have the "girl looking in medicine cabinet over sink who then closes it only to discover that someone has appeared in the mirror behind her!!!!!!!!!" gag... Seriously, that became parody about a dozen horror movies back. Does that scare ANYONE anymore??

  • April 24, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    I always feel dirty watching his films...

    by chuffsterUK

    ...and not in a good way.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    This says it all.

    by Vladimir_Ilyich_Ulyanov

    I just imdb'd Rob Zombie, as I had zero knowledge this movie was being made. As I clicked on his name, a page came up with these big bold words, "something went wrong". Boy, did it ever.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:47 p.m. CST


    by howzah

    What a cliche crappy trailer. Zombie is a hack. Who the hell is funding this guy's movies? His wife is in the movie. She can't act. PERIOD. She reminds me of Sophia Coppola in Godfather 3 horrible. Why remake these movies? Seriously the originals are as good as it gets. Why REMAKE them into shitty wannabe clones? You can't come up with your own ideas? His other movies are basically Texas Chainsaw massacre clones. This guy wouldn't know an original idea if it came up and bit him in the ass.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Back story...

    by Wolfman57

    So we get more backstory to Michael Myers with Zombies hot (but terrible actress) wife and Malcolm McDowell through flashbacks. Just like Jigsaw in the "Saw" movies. Unnecessary with them, unnecessary here.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Modern slasher remakes fail—

    by blakindigo

    —because they pander to canon. The "Friday the 13th" and Zombie's first "Halloween" are clear examples of what not to do. Without looking at this as a "Halloween" movie, I think the trailer is stylish and effective. Beaks is right “The further Zombie gets away from Carpenter's film, the better.” That goes for the rest of these remakes. Hopefully, Zombie will stay away from canonical fidelity and do his own thing.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Looks excellent....

    by Imperius

    Zombie's Halloween was a new touch to a classic, H2 looks original. Nice little homage to the first Halloween 2 with the Hospital scene although I think she's dreaming that whole encounter. I don't know how anyone can slag on Zombie's flicks. Compared to the abortions that were Halloween 3 thru 8 Zombie's movies at least have style. The new mask being torn in half is damn cool, probably cause it's Tyler Mane's eye starin at you. He's imposing as Myers. This looks as if Zombie has finally made this story his own. Actually looking forward to this compared to the senseless garbage that Hollywood keeps spewing out.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    "What is he, a fucking mutant?"

    by cookepuss

    LOL ... Actually... Yeah. Kinda. Michael's Being played by Tyler Mane, Sabertooth from X-Men 1.<p> <p> At the very least, this movie looks interesting. I'm not sure if it'll be good, especially since the previous remake ditched the suspense part of the original movie in favor or ExTrEmE violence. <p> <p> Violence and horror are not the same thing. I'm not so sure that Zombie quite gets that. Violence can make you squeamish, but horror can give you nightmares. I still squirm whenever I Annie's gurgles of strangulation in the original flick.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:53 p.m. CST


    by Imperius

    I love how some of you guys sit here and say he can't make a decent movie or fuck Rob Zombie. How many movies have you made lately? You all know that you would fuck his old lady with your and your buddy's cock if you could.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Whats up the lame mother ghost/halluciantion

    by Lovecraftfan

    The all white makes her look really really silly.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    Mr. Beaks

    by ThePilgrim

    That torn up version of the mask doesn't show up until the near halfway mark of the film. Michael gets a new mask shortly after, with a whole different look and design. The hospital stuff is a dream. Laurie did wind up in the hospital, but she dreamed up Michael's attack. Don't ask how I know. I'm not talking. His coveralls change. You can see this in many picture from the set. He going to change that and his beloved mask out for a new one because this one exposes his face, and he does not like that. I think it's going to shock the hardcore fans who believe Rob can't do anything good with the character.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST

    WWE's Undertaker as Myers? Looks like FUCKING SHIT. AGAIN.

    by la_sith

    Fuck Rob Zombie, and fuck this lazy piece of shit.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    I saw this new Micheal Myers in......

    by ragunax

    Braveheart as Robert Bruce's father, the Leper. nen_001.jpg

  • April 24, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Good thing Sherri Moon hooked up with Rob Zombie.

    by rev_skarekroe

    Since nobody else on Earth seems interested in casting her in anything.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    The mom thing is lame

    by ragunax

    Yes really. Turrible.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST


    by blakindigo

    Does the trailer capture the spirit of the film?

  • April 24, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Pandering to Canon

    by ThePilgrim

    is exactly what's wrong with the remakes, Blankingdigo. Who the fuck wants to watch some refried shit they already watched countless times before? That's not talent. In the very least you people will see something new done with these characters.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:06 p.m. CST

    What I don't understand from the get-go is why

    by skimn

    is Zombie remaking Carpenter at all? Carpenter used the widescreen dimensions like an artist and loved the Stedicam. Zombie would seem more suited to the down and dirty style of early Tobe Hooper.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    "The further Zombie gets away from Carpenter..."

    by Continentalop

    "...The better." <p> I agree with you blakindigo, that is why he never should have REMADE the movie. No matter what, Zombie has made something that will never be accepted. Halloween is a horror classic, up there with Psycho and Silence of the Lambs. <p> Also, I just heard an interview with Jonathan Nolan about the development of the Joker in TDK and how the Nolan brothers and Goyer realized that having the joker be an elemental force with no origin makes him so more effective. The same thing with Michael Myers - you don't give him an origin because he is the living embodiment of evil. Give him an origin and he is just a fucked up kid with a troubled background.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST


    by IKnowStuff

    It seemed to be going so well, and then she shows up. That fucking ugly stupid bitch. Rob really really REALLY REALLY needs to stop fucking casting Sheri Moon in his movies cause she instantly makes then beyond miserably awful. Fuck this movie, fuck Sheri Moon's awful acting, and fuck Rob Zombie. He can suck a fat dick.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Right on skimn

    by Continentalop

    Remake Funhouse or Eaten Alive, not something as lyrical as Halloween.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST


    by IKnowStuff

    She's a worthless fucking whore.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:11 p.m. CST

    It's shit. That didn't surprise me.

    by JackPumpkinhead

    I'd be surprised - and happy - if a real-life Michael Myers killed "zombie", but I wasn't surprised to find out that he made another turd.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:12 p.m. CST


    by SunTzu77


  • April 24, 2009, 5:12 p.m. CST


    by Vladimir_Ilyich_Ulyanov

    I don't think I'd fuck anybody with my buddies cock. But, you never know until the situation presents itself.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:12 p.m. CST


    by Super Rabbi

  • April 24, 2009, 5:13 p.m. CST

    What the fuck... Sheri Moon AGAIN?

    by Veraxus

    I was actually really interested until Sheri Moon Zombie popped up out of the blue and unleashed that nails-on-a-chalkboard whine she calls a voice. You know, Rob, you could make one hell of an awesome horror movie if you were really truly serious about it, but for the love of fucking christ please please PLEASE leave your wife the fuck out of it. I understand she's your wife and all but that bitch is a TALENT BLACK HOLE and her squeaky Mini-Mouse cartoon voice is not only poison for the whole moviegoing experience, but poison to my whole fucking day. Yes, my day is now ruined because I had to see your wife all hippied up and squealing "kill 'em baby" in an otherwise fantastic trailer. Fuck, man. Just... fuck.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    I guess im just getting too old to listen to women scream

    by stooopider


  • April 24, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Rob Zombie Needs To Make Up His Mind

    by Cinemanimetal

    Is Michael Meyers The Boogeyman or is he a mortal Serial Killer? This is the problem I had with the first movie. The whole first half of the movie sets up a story in which a boy turns into a serial killer. I was fine with that and thought it was an effective movie. Then the second half of the movie turned into a remake of the original Halloween. The problem with that is lines like "Was that the boogeyman?" "Yes, I do believe it was" don't work when Mike Meyers is just a human being (he even gets killed in Zombies version). So now Zombie is bringing him back which totally conflicts with the human Michael Meyers set up in the first film. Rob Zombie really needs to decide whether this is a human or just pure evil. Its kinda too late now though.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    So they are actually using "H2" as it's title?

    by IndyCollector

    That is so fucking GAY. That is the worst title for a movie in the history of movies.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    Sherri Moon needs to stop acting, PERIOD.

    by Mike_D

    go back to being a stripper in zombie's music videos.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:19 p.m. CST

    This trailer doesn't surprise me at all

    by lockesbrokenleg

    The same old shit from the same old guy.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:21 p.m. CST

    just, awful.

    by grandlarseny

    this looks truly awful. i can;t believe he found some ridiculous looking way to put sheri moon in here. i hate the idea about the different masks. i hate the stupid horror tv show host. i hate hate hate the concept here. i'm so sick of this crap.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Something new Is what the audience NEEDS

    by blakindigo

    – when absent, it's the reason we groan when we hear of remakes. Maybe during the studio system a remake of "A Star is Born" worked multiple times, but the seasoned writers within the studio system where astute, competent and extremely well trained. They new all the tricks and short–cuts to visual characterization. I think Zombie's knowledge of grindhouse cinema is vast and his references might fly over some peoples heads. I'd like to see him team up with a writer who is tighter with structure (and visual short–hand) like AKW or Gilroy. But, I'm rooting for him anyway—he's got an eye and at least he knows his stuff.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Not sure about the whole mothe angle

    by caruso_stalker217

    But I liked Zombie's HALLOWEEN and I've already pledged to see this at the theater.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST


    by caruso_stalker217

    Worse than H20? <p>Or, as my mother said when she first saw the trailer HALLOWEEN WATER!?

  • April 24, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Surprise Me How??

    by IKnowStuff

    This trailer doesn't surprise me at all. In fact, it confirms every problem I've ever had with Zombie's films and why he's the world's shittiest director. To the guy who said M. Night and Zombie should make a movie together, shut up. M. Night is so far beyond talented, granted he's had a few bad ones, and Zombie is a hack. But I get it now. Zombie is a fucking Nazi and he wants to kill America. I get it. Werewolf Women of The SS or whatever his shitty Grindhouse trailer was called. Dude, this guy sucks and someone needs to stop funding his mindless adventures into canned brutality. Fuck, even his music fucking sucks.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Why the HELL aren't they releasing this...

    by Rando Calrisian

    ON HALLOWEEN???! <br> <br> Idiots.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    "Weird" Al Yankovic as Loomis?

    by Yoda's Ball Sack


  • April 24, 2009, 5:33 p.m. CST

    I am sick of the love for "grindhouse"

    by Continentalop

    First off, "grindhouse" movies were not good. They were bad. Usually very bad. If a grindhouse or exploitation movie was good or even had some good stuff in it, it was in there despite the genre, not because of it. White Line Fever is good because it is good, not because it is an exploitation film. <p> This arbitrary love for all things called exploitation or grindhouse has got to end. Like I said, you can like certain movies that happen to be exploitation or grindhouse, and to admire them for being so effective despite the budget and content restrictions, but to say you love grindhouse movies in general just seems kind of ridiculous. <p> Secondly, I think Rob Zombie could do a really good slasher movie about an abused redneck, white trash kid who goes psycho. Halloween just isn't the vehicle to do it with.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:33 p.m. CST

    hoodie !

    by Candy ass monkey suit

    Looks ok. Not sure i like michael myers as a hoodie though ! Didnt much like zombies first effort,thought it was completely pointless and de-mystefied michaelno end which was so lame. Why release this in the summer..why dont they ever release these at Halloween?? I still think zombie is talented and i loved the devils rejects but abhore his other films. Will reserve judgement till i see it..not sure about this.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:35 p.m. CST

    "WAKE the DUCK up"

    by D.Vader

    Heheheh. I wonder if that was CGI-enhanced for this "family" trailer.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Yeah since when did Halloween occur in August?

    by D.Vader

    They're making this SAME mistake AGAIN?!

  • April 24, 2009, 5:37 p.m. CST

    WTF His mom is a ghost?!

    by RandomVillain

    Alright so now Michael Myers mom is a ghost and haunts him telling him to kill everyone.... cause, that totally never happened in any other horror franchise either.... God damnit Rob Zombie is worse than Uwe Boll.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Hooded Michael Myers looks like Frankenstein

    by D.Vader

    Like, the one from Van Helsing.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Saw owns Halloween

    by IKnowStuff

    That's why they don't release these films on Halloween. But I've heard nothing, nor does IMDB show anything for a Saw film being released in 2009. Hopefully, the Saw franchise is done. In which case, I have no explanation for why this movie doesn't come out on Halloween. But more importantly, I'm wondering why this is getting a theatrical release at all. Seriously man, Sheri Moon just ruined my whole day. I'm so fucking angry.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    I don't like People messing with Carpenter

    by blakindigo

    either. "Halloween" was the first laserdisc I ever bought. I think classic Carpenter should not be touched, and Zombie tried his best. Unfortunately, it wasn't successful but you can't win them all. But, you can see his passion, this dude is burning to tell stories–I think he needs to go intimate to disturb. And, more cerebral (he's got visceral down pat), read some more Maitland McDonagh, Steve Bissette, Doug Winter, and Paul Sammon. Elevate giallo by shifting it's foundations and frame of reference. I know Studios give money for sure things, but I'm sure they can see the backlash from failures like "Prom Night". Imagine if Zombie remade "Motel Hell" for example, but, took the elements of 'hick' culture that have been reinvented by the landscape of advertising, pop culture acceptance/stereotyping (Jerry Springer) and used the killer to critique these appropriations. Zombie would be 'in his element' but, his outsider perspective (he was a carney, no?) could give LAYERS of insight.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Halloween 3...

    by RandomVillain

    Is Halloween 3 gonna be about, Michael Myers being dead, and then the only way he can get to them, is by getting into the nightmares of kids?

  • April 24, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Three words: "Emo Pod People"

    by kevred

    Really, I flashed back to the MST3K 'Pod People' when I saw him trudging around in his hoodie. "It's called evil, kid." Though his look seems tailored for teens who listen to emo music.<p>And is that a human-skin mask? Can't he just rip off one horror icon at a time? It's amazing what the lack of something iconic does to the impact of something. If I didn't know it was a Halloween film, it would look like just any other 2nd-rate horror film.<p>The closer it gets to every 'secret revealed', the less compelling. Somehow I just don't buy someone completely unconnected to the creation of this character or his world coming along 30 years later and "revealing" his "true" backstory.<p>Create your own character! Give him and interesting story! Otherwise it's just fan art!

  • April 24, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST


    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    if thats in her again i will get the dvd. better not be blurred out by music though. i wanna hear her moan. im sorry. i have needs.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    You should be producing and writing for Zombie because you just gave a perfect example of where Zombie might thrive. However. I don't Zombie on his own could pull off LAYERED insight or be able to critique anything. He is quite simply a one trick pony - he knows how to do white trash killers. Now that one trick could work if someone else wrote the script so they could add subtext (like the MOTEL HELL/Jerry Springer angle you thought up), and if a strong producer helped guide his films so he wouldn't fuck up by succumbing to his bad sensibilities and judgement (like casting his wife in every damn film).

  • April 24, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST


    by KevinMuller

    This one looks better than that POS from two years ago...I just don't think this needed to be remade, it was fine.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Jason has the killer mommy not Michael.........................

    by crackerfarmboy

    This looks like shit.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST


    by Kaiser Soze

    Yes there's a Saw IV coming October 29. Unfortunately, as long as retarded teenagers keep paying for and supporting the Saw franchise, They'll keep churning one out every Halloween, further destroying the horror genre with the "all gore, no scare" approach that Saw and Hostel have purveyed for the past decade. Seriously, I wish those franchises would die so someone out there will actually attemtp to scare us again!

  • April 24, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST

    blakindigo, I agree--good idea

    by kevred

    That's the next horror classic waiting to be made, and it would be doubly horrifying because you can see it every day at your average Wal-Mart. The mutations of our pop culture are scarier than any fictional slasher.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Imperious....I think not

    by DrMorbius

    Yes, I think I would fuck her, but that is neither here not there. What I wouldn't do is allow my vocal and rectal orifices to be violated just to get backing for a movie. Rob must be proficient at both, hence his oeuvre up til now. Judging by your post I'd say you probably helped him practice in those endeavors, probably " catching" more than "pitching". Continued success, you deserve it!!! I'm just sayin'.....

  • April 24, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Someone should remake Deathproof

    by Continentalop

    No really. Kurt Russell as a killer stunt car driver in a Deathproof car - how the hell did QT fuck that up?

  • April 24, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Danielle Harris was naked having sex in the 1st one?

    by D.Vader

    Well, maybe I'll make a trip to the rental store if this is the case...

  • April 24, 2009, 6:04 p.m. CST

    Sooo I guess this takes place on the other side

    by Series7

    Of the Parking Garage? OHHH yeah that's right no one's ever seen P2.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Halloween 3......

    by DrMorbius

    ....while bunking with Jason Voorhies at Camp Crystal Lake!!!

  • April 24, 2009, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Yah, I wonder

    by blakindigo

    who would be a good producer/writer team with Zombie. Alexandre Aja maybe? Christophe Gans? I think Andrew Kevin Walker writing and Zombie directing might be an interesting combo with Samuel Hadida producing.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:10 p.m. CST

    How could anyone be remotely excited for this?

    by MaxDembo1

    Zombie's last redo of Carpenter's material was utter crap. This film will be no different. There is no debate. Zombie is a fucking hack!

  • April 24, 2009, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Sheriff cast in Ridley Scott's Robin Hood

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Matthew Macfadyen has been cast as the Sheriff of Nottingham in Ridley Scott's reinvention of Robin Hood.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    What the FUCK was that!?!?!???!


    All was well until his wife showed up. This may end up being even worse than his last attempt. Is that even possible? I'm sick of this moron shitting all over a classic. At least this will be a little bit further removed.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST

    It looks shit. Just like EVERY OTHER Rob Zombie movie.

    by The_Man_Behind_The_Curtain

    Never listened to any of his music i hope to fucking GOD that he has more talent there than as a storyteller or director.<p>This guy couldn't tell a fucking story if his life depended on it and, oh look, some grainy visuals just like all of his other tired little pieces of shit. Yeah, keep recycling that Rob - you complete and utter fuckass.<p>And someone thought this talentless asshole could follow in the footsteps of John Carpenter? <p>Fucking hell.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST


    by Gus Van Rant

    Yep, it's not often you see a Zombie rape a masterpiece...FUCK YOU ROB ZOMBIE!! Say "hi" to Micheal Bay for me when you see him in HELL!!

  • April 24, 2009, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Zombie should not be allowed to make any movie

    by Dapper Swindler

    ...unless it is a remake of Killer Klowns from Outer Space.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:19 p.m. CST

    The Devil's Rejects was an asbolute fluke.


    Now it's official.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    More evolved?

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    What is the evolutionary cycle of a Myers?

  • April 24, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    You know what else I fucking hate?

    by The_Man_Behind_The_Curtain

    The whole "how many movies have you made?" argument, some people throw around when you criticise a film.<p>I've never been the dictator of a small country either but I sure as hell have the right to criticise Pol Pot, you complete and utter assholes.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Myers smokes CIGARS in this one?!!!

    by Zartan LAME!

  • April 24, 2009, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Halloween remake could have been worse...

    by mode_7

    ...Carpenter could have directed it.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Rabbit Hood

    by blakindigo

    "Arise! Sir Loin of Beef, Arise! Sir Earl of Cloves, Arise! Duke of Brittingham, Arise! Baron of Munchausen, Arise! Essence of Myrrh, Milk of Magnesia, Quarter of Ten…"

  • April 24, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    H2: The Quest to Employ Zombie's Talentless Wife

    by Rob0729

    Seriously, the trailer actually looked good until she showed up. From there on out, it just looked moronically stupid. Seriously, I don't know how Zombie is going to avoid from sinking this movie into self parody with scenes like the ones we saw in the trailer. <br><br> First he wanted to make Myers into a real serial killer. Now it looks like he is turning him into some supernatural being who is controlled by his mother from beyond the grave. It is quite clear he had no intentions of making a sequel and they threw enough money at him to basically go against his word and rush this thing to the movies in like four months time.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    When I hear the words "Rob Zombie", I think:

    by gnarwhal_evan


  • April 24, 2009, 6:28 p.m. CST

    For God's sake, PLEASE shorten the title!

    by Iowa Snot Client

    "H2" is so uncool, so last year, so TR2N. Couldn't they merge the symbols for "H" and "2" into a single, unpronounceable character?

  • April 24, 2009, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Zombie; great musician/rocker, horrible director

    by Stalkeye

    As a fan of Rob's music, I was hoping that this guy would be the next John Carpenter instead, he's remaking carpenter's signature franchise; Shalloween. C'mon Rob, you're better than that.You should have at least did the crow sequel instead of the disapointing remake let alone the devil's rejects.Get more original or get the hell out of the movie business. <p>BTW love that song Cosmic Monsters Inc.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    I think I'd rather watch his movies

    by gnarwhal_evan

    than ever listen to this dude's shitty nu-metal garbage. <br> <br> DRAGULLLAAAAAA

  • April 24, 2009, 6:34 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    "I've never been the dictator of a small country either..." <p> That was fucking brilliant. I am going to steal that argument next time I hear "How many films have you made" on this site (and for the record, I have made three so I guess I have the legal right to criticize).

  • April 24, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    I'm sold...

    by Logan_1973

    I'd watch anything Zombie does. The man behind The Devils Rejects will always get my support. And I liked his Halloween. I'm just disappointed they went with the "hip" title of H2. There had to be a more classic way of titling it.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST


    by DrMorbius

    Just google danielle harris nude and you can see the scene of her from H2.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST

    This will suck

    by batzilla

    Rob Zombie is a talentless piece of shit.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Wait... is that cop Brad "Grima Chucky" Dourif?

    by The Chosen

  • April 24, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST

    What a surprise

    by BrightEyes

    You all hate it all ready. Didn't see that coming.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Doesnt Matter

    by skinnyboy30

    You all realize that no matter how much you fucking cry over Rob Zombie this film is going to STILL make a fuckton of cash. Internet nerds CANNOT make or break a film.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST

    If by suprised you mean bored, then yes i was bored.

    by Mysterious_Volvo

  • April 24, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Shitty nu metal garbage? I strongly digress

    by Stalkeye

    Wgy do so many ppl recall Dragula when they think of White Zombie music? That's not one of his best songs, just overused in almost every movie or videogame back in the mid 90's. Kinda like Drowning Pool's Bodies "Let the bodies hit the floor"<p> As much as i dislike the halloween remake, i'd rather see that shit than the new fatal attraction ripoff starring Beyoncee.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST

    I've seen P2...

    by pdennett316

    and it was pretty fucking good, not great, but pretty fucking good. <p> Rob Zombie remakes Killer Klowns?? Fuck no, he doesn't deserve a project of that calibre. It doesn't get any better than killer shadow puppet dinosaur, Zombie would feature a killer shadow Sherri Moon, the pussy-whipped no talent jobbie.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:59 p.m. CST


    by georgecauldron

    They couldn't make this look good if they tried. PASS.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Danielle Harris?

    by BanditDarville

    Is she the chick from Last Boy Scout and Halloween 4 all grown up? I thought she just showed her boobies in the Zombie H1. Or is she Laurie's other friend who sports a full shot of her landing strip/mohawk? I for one, like Zombie's films because if nothing else, he puts his own demented stamp on them. Fuck the Haters. NINETY-SIXTY-FIVE- YEAH!!!!!

  • April 24, 2009, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Danielle Harris....

    by pdennett316

    Isn't she the annoying one with the oh so natural dialogue? 'Yo bitch, how's your cunt?' or something equally garbage that Zombie thought would be a great way to endear the hollow "characters" to us the first time? <p> Basically, the average looking chick with the big mouth...honestly, you fuckers that are drooling remember her from Last Boy Scout you jailbait chasing sicko's...don't ya?

  • April 24, 2009, 7:05 p.m. CST


    by Harold-Sherbort

    ..I second that. I, by accident, clicked on Quarantine on netflix. Then, by accident, it showed up in my mailbox. Then, by accident, it ended up in my dvd player. I ended up having a good time watching it. With no expectations, it's a good horror flick. Then, not by accident, I put REC in my queue.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    John told zombie to "make it his own"

    by Nivek666

    All we still hear weekend "Horror fans" bitch bitch bitch. Halloween isn't the fucking Godfather, you fucking Douche bags. Get over yourselves and watch your asian horror shit. Fucking poser horror fans are the worst...

  • April 24, 2009, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Looks Worse Than The First - If That's Possible

    by Croweyes1121

    Seriously, I would not watch this if it were coming on TV for free tonight. The reason for Michael Myers's evil should *never* be "finally revealed". That's the quintessential problem with the first remake and that's why this one will blow even bigger chunks. And what's with Loomis saying "Michael is more evolved". More evolved than what precisely? An elephant? He's a rampaging, mindless monster, for Christ's he's "more evolved"? WTF? And this is the dialog that warranted inclusion in the trailer? Sheesh. There's also a reason why Michael Myers NEVER wore a freakin' HOOD in the earlier films: it looks fucking stupid! He looks more like what would happen to Bruce Willis's superhero character in "Unbreakable" if he got around some tar-laced kryptonite than the pure evil shape we all grew up with. This movie will suck. And suck huge.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:24 p.m. CST

    total shit

    by Adelai Niska

    So... Zombie spent the ENTIRE FIRST MOVIE shamelessly backtracking over everything in Myers' life (down to he origin story of the fucking knife), and now he abandons EVERYTHING? Good thing they called it "H2" because I will never see a Halloween movie without that score. BTW, is Halloween 3 worth seeing? Never bothered before.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:28 p.m. CST


    by calibandonflamingo

    I have pretty low standards, but this looks like shit.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:32 p.m. CST

    The mask is there. What the fuck are you talking about?


    And quit pretending the original is some great film. Please. If any of you had the balls to be honest you would admit its dull most of the time, and moderately entertaining at best. I don't really give a fuck about Rob Zombie, but this film looks more interesting than 99% of the horror shit thats been released in the past few years. I like how this actually looks like it was made in the 80s.<p>This will clean the fuck up.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST

    And I agree....bring on TYRANNOSAURUS FUCKING REX!!


    That is one bad ass sounding story.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST


    by pdennett316

    So liking a quality movie makes you a poser huh? The original Halloween is the genre daddy, and if Carpenter told Zombie to "make it his own", he did a piss poor job of it given that the last half of the film is a condensed remake of the original. <p> All Zombie did was make Myers less scary, and the babysitters less likeable. Whooooooo, good job Rob! I didn't even root for Myeres to kill them, I was rooting for my DVD player to explode.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST

    There's nothing intriguing about this

    by MattmanReturns

    Rob Zombie wouldn't know subtle if it axed him in the face. The first movie was the worst remake I've ever seen and actually sickened me in its total lack of understanding for the source material.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Danny, the original Halloween

    by MattmanReturns

    It's not that it's a great movie... there are a lot of flaws. But the slow pacing actually makes the scares effective when they finally happen. The film earns its final act. Lately, every horror movie feels like a 90 minute final act. Nothing is earned, and nothing is subtle. Rob Zombie is probably the best example of this degradation.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Soylent, couldn't agree more...

    by pdennett316

    Though I have to admit I do enjoy me some Michael Bay CRASHBANGWALLOP!!! from time to time, nothing wrong with broad tastes.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Also, rednecks aren't scary... they're just goofy

    by MattmanReturns

    In the original, Michael is just pure evil for no reason, and that scares the shit out of me. In Rob Zombie's piece of shit film of the same name, he's raised in a family of rednecks and everything makes sense. No longer scary. Just goofy.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:42 p.m. CST

    I love yah DANNY...

    by Continentalop

    ...but no, I don't think the original Halloween is dull. I find it incredibly entertaining and gripping (like it's predecessor, Psycho). <p But yes, this movie does look better than 99% of the horror shit released in the past few years (or course, that isn't saying much).

  • April 24, 2009, 7:43 p.m. CST


    by JeanLuc Dickhard

    thats not halloween

  • April 24, 2009, 7:44 p.m. CST


    by pdennett316

    Subtle wouldn't axe Zombie in the face, it would slowly poison him over a period of weeks....perhaps with anti-freeze which has a sweet taste in food.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:44 p.m. CST

    Rob Zombie is to horror

    by Turd Furgeson

    as Bret Rattner is to everything else... This guy couldn't make a good movie if David Fincher did it for him and put his name on it.. I have never seen anyone else make more bad films and keep getting money to make more, except Ratner.. Mike Meyers as a homeless drifter huh..? And I thought he couldn't fuck it up anymroe.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    Continental -- I love you too sugar tits....


    ...but comparing Halloween to Psycho?! Oh come on.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    MattmanReturns = IS A FUCKING PIMP.


    I get what your saying about recent horror films feeling like one big final act. That is very true. Fuck that.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:48 p.m. CST

    And I've said for years Rob needs to get in a different genre.


    I think he is capable of crafting a solid film. He just needs to get the fuck out of horror and do his action/revenge (T. Rex) or that crazy sci-fi shit he keeps talking about.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Check the spoiler at the other AICN website

    by Turd Furgeson

    The site where these guys actually say what they feel still, Nuke The Fridge....

  • April 24, 2009, 7:48 p.m. CST

    No, rednecks can be scary...

    by Continentalop

    Southern Comfort - scary. <p> Fight For Your Life - scary. <p> <p> The characters from the Devil's Rejects - scary. <p> The bigots in Rosewood - scary. The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre - scary. <p> Deliverance - Fucking scary.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Classic Halloween is classic 70's horror

    by D.Vader

    If you're a fan of horror films, I don't know how you can't like the original.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:51 p.m. CST

    I think the problem with rednecks is they are unlikable....


    ......I think the killer or villain of any film has to have a certain level of charm and likability. Rednecks are just nasty fucks. I don't enjoy watching them. I don't find them funny. They are just dirty and fucking annoying.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Well....overall I can give a fuck about horror films.


    The only ones I really like are the ones so bad they're funny.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:52 p.m. CST

    NASCAR fans- SCARY

    by D.Vader

    Yikes. I had a fat redneck scare the crap out of me when I went to my first and only race as a child. He was talking to us (though I should say yelling bc its fucking loud) in slurred gibberish, then started climbing up the fence that protects us from flying tires and shrapnel like a fucking monkey, using his body to shake the fence, screaming like a maniac. <p> Security pulled him down. Beat him with nightsticks. At least, that's how I imagine it went down.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Yes, compare it to Psycho

    by Continentalop

    I'm not saying it is as good or as brilliant, but Psycho obviously had an impact on the making of the original Halloween. And it obviously is employing many of the same techniques that Psycho used and invented to create suspense (as well as some of Val Lewton's and Jacque Tourneur) . <p> By the way, I thought we agreed you would only call me Sugar Tits in private...

  • April 24, 2009, 7:56 p.m. CST

    You know you are a redneck...

    by Continentalop

    ...if you are cast in a Rob Zombie movie.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:58 p.m. CST

    Continentalop, I stand corrected.

    by MattmanReturns

    Ass rape is pretty scary.

  • April 24, 2009, 8 p.m. CST

    I like horror movies...

    by Continentalop

    ...but I got to agree that most of them are just fucking bad. As for rednecks not be good villains, I have to generally agree with Danny. <p> First off, they are not charming. Secondly, you are making fun of people on the bottom of the social totem pole. Its like picking on the handicap or retarded kid in school. <p> I mean, can we find someone further down the social ladder to demonize? Why not make a horror movie where a Mexican day laborer, a alcoholic Indian or a single welfare mom is the psycho killer.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST

    I think the "boring" nature of the original "HALLOWEEEN"

    by blakindigo

    is a PURE example of how storytelling has been cheapened by market research gurus and television influences. It's the same complaint leveled at the original "Alien". Watching it in the cinema is a COMPLETELY different experience.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Suspense≠boring unless the conflict and/or characters aren't wor

    by blakindigo

  • April 24, 2009, 8:10 p.m. CST

    ALIEN never bores me

    by MattmanReturns

    That movie's pacing is perfect. I love the way each segment of the story progresses.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Which are those, Danny?

    by D.Vader

  • April 24, 2009, 8:11 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    You must be a lawyer. That is some brilliant twisting of logic. <p> I feel like I have been served.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:11 p.m. CST

    This looks 100 times WORSE than the last one.

    by JuanSanchez

    Seriously looks excruciatingly bad.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:12 p.m. CST


    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    The movie has a special place in my heart. It thrilled me from start to finish, chilled me and unnerved me, and his humanization and "decoolification" of the Michael character was welcome and fascinating to me. I think the shame is how many people are angry that Michael isn't "awesome." WTF? He's a mass-murderer. Hello!

  • April 24, 2009, 8:12 p.m. CST

    '07 shat on the original, this looks to be douching with it

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 24, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST

    At least its not PromNight

    by D.Vader

    Holy shit was THAT some incompetent filmmaking and almost all levels.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    FUCK YOU that we should trust this shit

    by Professor_Monster

    It looks just as fucking dumb as Zombie's other shit. Any guy who dresses up in a costume and walks around thinking it makes him cool needs to save his act for Comic Con only. Put the fucking camera down Rob. You can't hack it.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:20 p.m. CST


    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    I'll have fun when I see it. I'm going to have a great time, I'm sure. I can't wait.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Make your own crap, stop pissing on Halloween you POS

    by JuanSanchez

    You're like the filmmaking version of a war criminal.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST


    by blakindigo

    Which is worse "Prom Night" or the "Fog" remake?

  • April 24, 2009, 8:25 p.m. CST

    The original Halloween was great, but in a

    by lockesbrokenleg

    shitty way. Hell, even the actors were surprised the shit turned out to be popular.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:28 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    I think the remake of "Black Christmas" was worse than "Prom Night" or the "Fog." <p> Question is why do I keep seeing these God awful remakes?

  • April 24, 2009, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Seriously - I wish Zombie would just die.

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 24, 2009, 8:31 p.m. CST

    What didnt surprise us...his awful wife's acting again

    by quantize


  • April 24, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST

    JEEZUS! "Black Christmas"

    by blakindigo

    I tried a variety of toxic inhalants,in a desperate and pathetic hope to kill the brain–space that nightmare haunts.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST

    I Have No Intention On seeing This

    by Broseph

    I made the dumb mistake of going to see his remake opening night.WHAT A FUCKING WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.i really don't care for zombies movies i think devils rejects is a piece of shit.oh let's play freebird at the end and feel sorry for the poor murders.WTF??? I'd rather see rob doing concerts now that's entertainment

  • April 24, 2009, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Zombie will never get a cent out of me. Die, you fuck!

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 24, 2009, 8:49 p.m. CST

    So I'm in the minority

    by kinksy

    like .1% when I say that I think Zombie did a fantastic job with the first Halloween. And that I HATED House of 1000 and The Devil's Reject's. My husband has watched TDR like 40 times and that movie is seriously loathesome. He's in love with Sheri though. And she is hot people. Really.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Don't want to put words in your mouth, JuanSanchez

    by Continentalop

    But I think you are saying you are not a fan of Rob Zombie.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Just call it Halloween 2, What's up with H2? Dumb

    by Orionsangels

  • April 24, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    FIRST one

    by TheExterminator

    was shit...offensively so

  • April 24, 2009, 9:16 p.m. CST

    Continetalop - he's a skidmark on cinema.

    by JuanSanchez

    Just awful. Stick to music. He's not great at that either, but it's preferable to this shit.

  • April 24, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    fritt vilt 2

    by TheExterminator

    LMAO he's just copied that instead film fans

  • April 24, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Please Don't Let Him Anywhere Near PHANTASM

    by landrvr1

    For the love of God. Please.

  • April 24, 2009, 9:33 p.m. CST

    yes please

    by ultragoregrind

    subject says it all - bring it on.

  • April 24, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    ENOUGH with Remakes and "Reboots"

    by rayseedy

    Some original ideas coming out of Hollywood would be nice for a change.

  • April 24, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Well, someone better remake Killer Klowns from Outer Space

    by Dapper Swindler

    God created the concept of "remakes" solely for that film. No other movie should ever be remade, except that one.

  • April 24, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Get out the lube and tissues because...

    by ChuckImania

    The circle jerk of hatred is alive and well on the AICN talk back. I love it how people are attacking Rob Zombie; do you honestly think they would have canned this project if he refused to take part in it? The studio would have rehashed it eventually with or without him. The man has done some pretty innovated things with the genre, and it's obvious that he knows his horror, so be glad it's him directing and not Michael Bay. Does the trailer look like shit? Yes, yes it's god awful, but so are a number of trailers attached to kick ass movies. To the guy knocking people in love with Grindhouse films. Fuck you, I happen to like shitty poorly produced and badly edited movies. Which is why I own a copy of Sinful Dwarf and literally laugh my ass off every time I watch it.

  • April 24, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Dapper Swinder

    by ChuckImania

    Amen... I need to see someone mummified in cotton candy within the decade or I'm going to be pretty pissed off.

  • April 24, 2009, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Zombie "innovated things with the genre"??

    by m_prevette

    WTF???? Zombie = Innovative? Get the fuck outta here. He is NOT a "writer - director", he's a talentless moron with a copy of Final Draft and a blank check. His movies are so hilariously inept ... fuck, I am wasting my breath. If anyone thinks anything Zombie has put to film has any are a sad misguided individual.

  • April 24, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Seriously - he's not innovative. He copies what he likes.

    by JuanSanchez

    Steels a lot from early Tobe Hooper.

  • April 24, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Blakindigo, that's a tough call, PromNight or The Fog

    by D.Vader

    PromNight had the worst fake scares and editing ever committed to celluloid*, but The Fog's ending is so horrendously retarded I can't discount it either. <p> Which is the worse film? They must share the title. I'd say I'd have to rewatch both of them to make a more honest and informed decision, but why would I subject myself to such torture? <p> <p> <p> *I mean holy shit, have you seen it? Have you seen the lamp scare, where the girl is 8 feet away from the lamp in one shot, and in the next as she turns around, she bumps into it, scaring herself and "the audience"? Or the opening murder sequence which is so laughably bad? Followed by the bathroom mirror scare scene which makes no logistical sense based on the position of the bathroom door and the angle at which the mirrored cabinet opens- there's no way her aunt could sneak into the bathroom and go behind the girl so as to get between her and the bathtub in order to scare her as she shuts the mirror door without the girl noticing. Its. just. so. damn. INCOMPETENT.

  • April 24, 2009, 10:23 p.m. CST


    by Continentalop

    Do you love grindhouse films because some happen to be well made despite the budget restraints or are somehow very effective despite the subject matter and the lack of talent amongst the cast and crew? I see nothing wrong with that, because you like the movie and not the grindhouse or exploitation label. <p> if you like to watch Manos, Thundercrack or Torture Dungeon because you can't fucking believe someone would actual made a movie that bad unless it was intentional, there is nothing wrong with that either. Of course, that doesn't mean you really admire the movie - you are really laughing and making fun of it. Or you are just fucking amazed at the audacity of some of them. <p> My problem is with people who say they :"love" grindhouse or exploitation flicks as if they are good movies or something that should be imitated. It is just a hipster label to show how you are such a "non-comformist." There are good films that just happen to be grindhouse movies, but being a grindhouse movie isn't something that makes something good. Usually the opposite. Those people working on those films never wanted to make grindhouse movies, they were just unfortunate to be stuck making them and tried to transcend the limits of the "genre", or where interested in subject matter that no studio would touch. When someone says they want to make a grindhouse film, I laugh because they seem to be saying "Hey, I want to make a piece of shit."

  • April 24, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Hit Post it to early

    by Continentalop

    My problem with the entire "grindhouse is cool" label is that it is just a excuse for many filmmakers to make bad movies. It is a term they use to shield themselves from any sort of criticism. <p> Now I love filmmakers who have to work with limitations or rules. I love it when someone comes up with something original or awesome while he still has to follow Roger Corman's old rule about violence or nudity or the threat of violence or nudity every 10 minutes, or when you have to make a movie with just one set and three cast members. <p> What I don't like is when people just throw a bunch of blood and gore and bad acting and sets and say it is ok, but it is a grindhouse film. As if that makes something critic proof.

  • April 24, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Prom NIght–The lamp scene

    by blakindigo

    Was really, Really bad.

  • April 24, 2009, 10:40 p.m. CST


    by dagwood

    impressive. quite sad, actually. if i were a film prof and a student showed me this, i'd automatically assume he doesn't have his own style and write him off as a creative talent.

  • April 24, 2009, 10:57 p.m. CST


    by blakindigo

    On Grindhouse Movies- I tend to like the gonzo energy in the best of them; the pure audacity of some of the ideas. I think some of the ideas are actually shocking or dangerous even. If I look at Jamaa Fanaka's "Welcome Back, Mister Charles" it produces a level of pure incredulity that cannot be described. But, there is a fascinating political subtext that also is subversive. No, it's not a good movie, but, it can help illuminate some of the themes of the era. But, the 70's films explored difficult or controversial themes in some major productions also (could "Last Tango in Paris" or "Straw Dogs" be made today?) I agree that 'hipster' pretensions can be off–putting and repellant at times especially the snarky, 'smarter then thou' affectations.

  • April 24, 2009, 10:58 p.m. CST

    I find my lack—

    by blakindigo

    —of punctuation disturbing. Apologies.

  • April 24, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Continentalop cont'd

    by blakindigo

    You raise a very interesting question thought: Why DO we keep watching horrible movies? I mean it's obvious that we love the genre, we love the medium. But, why do we NEED to see them. Do we go to witness the re–imaginings that play in our mind's eye? Do we want to be surprised, exposed and transformed? I think your question is REALLY valid; it's not flippant or simple. Also, it's not a question that accuses the filmmaker for any wrong doing (unless it's pure shite). The question is important and I often ask the same question.

  • April 24, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST


    by TheNipplesofGodReturns


  • April 24, 2009, 11:11 p.m. CST


    by TheNipplesofGodReturns

    That Indiana Jones Dall is fucking hilarious! in the advertisement

  • April 24, 2009, 11:27 p.m. CST


    by Slaphappy Slim

    Why am I not surprised that everything here has to be the extremes of hyperbole? I don't care how much you twits hate Rob Zombie, the idea that this trailer is the absolute worst thing you have ever seen in your life is utter bullshit. Given the amount of crap spewed forth by Hollywood on a daily basis, this isn't even the worst trailer you've seen this week. And Jesus Christ, you fucking geeks and your sacred cows. I'm a bigger Rob Zombie fan every day for the sheer fact that he sends you clowns into such histrionics. May he eternally rape all of your childhoods.

  • April 24, 2009, 11:35 p.m. CST

    You had me at Weird Al Yankovic

    by WhoDis


  • April 24, 2009, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Oh, God, not another fanboy apologia tour for Rob Zombie

    by reflecto


  • April 25, 2009, 12:01 a.m. CST

    reflecto we don't know

    by blakindigo

    if it's good or bad yet. I'm just against hatin' something without seeing it.

  • April 25, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST

    ya...nevermind that its the same fucking premise

    by bacci40

    girl trapped in hospital still being chased by meyers<p> look, carpenter never expected michael meyers to become a franchise<p> he had planned multiple halloween movies, all with different sequels<p> but as usual, the movie going public is TOO FUCKING RETARDED TO WRAP THEIR TINY POINTED HEADS AROUND THAT CONCEPT<P> so all zombie does is play to...THE FUCKING MORONS, WHOSE PARENTS VOTED FOR GEORGE BUSH TWICE....FUCK ZOMBIE AND FUCK ALL THESE REMAKES

  • April 25, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST

    ya...nevermind that its the same fucking premise

    by bacci40

    girl trapped in hospital still being chased by meyers<p> look, carpenter never expected michael meyers to become a franchise<p> he had planned multiple halloween movies, all with different sequels<p> but as usual, the movie going public is TOO FUCKING RETARDED TO WRAP THEIR TINY POINTED HEADS AROUND THAT CONCEPT<P> so all zombie does is play to...THE FUCKING MORONS, WHOSE PARENTS VOTED FOR GEORGE BUSH TWICE....FUCK ZOMBIE AND FUCK ALL THESE REMAKES

  • April 25, 2009, 12:20 a.m. CST

    zombie casts his wife for the same reason smith does

    by bacci40

    neither of them can believe anyone that attractive married them<p> oh sure, they both have fucked hotties...but none of those girls really wanted to spend any time with them or birth their babies

  • April 25, 2009, 12:25 a.m. CST

    First one ws good

    by Sir Mad

    I think the best thing about Rob Zombie's Halloween was that it changed Myers and I really enjoyed it. When watching it think that it's Rob's vision of Halloween. So, I think H2 will be good. Enough said.

  • April 25, 2009, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Come on, blakindigo, we know

    by reflecto

    We know every time. Rob Zombie can't make a good movie. He makes incoherent shit which fanboys excuse because he talks about old school horror and the grindhouse, employs a lot of geek fave actors and has all his characters talk like caricatures. Even the constant apologia about "Devil's Rejects" is lame. That movie is barely passable, and it's the only one of RZ's movies that is remotely watchable for longer than five minutes. It's crap, too. They're all crap, but because Rob talks about old school horror and claims his pieces of cinematic offal are "homages" to that beloved past, people will excuse him ANYTHING.

  • April 25, 2009, 12:34 a.m. CST

    But, I'm asking

    by blakindigo

    is that what you got from the trailer, reflecto? Or could you be projecting? I mean, Zombie isn't Uwe Boll. I have to admit the trailer made me curious, and that means his skills might have improved. "The Devil's Rejects" had strong moments.

  • April 25, 2009, 12:37 a.m. CST

    DAMMIT! Hit the button

    by blakindigo

    too soon. I wouldn't say it's a solid movie, but it has it's moments. Hell, even "Nightbreed" has it's moments.

  • April 25, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST

    looks like

    by Willy_Idle

    michael myers knows what i did last summer

  • April 25, 2009, 12:55 a.m. CST

    Rob Zombie

    by lokipan

    has been a douchebag since he started fucking that dumb bitch who shows up in all his movies.

  • April 25, 2009, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Michael Myers...

    by the_beard_of_Chuck_Norris

    Knows What You Did Last Summer... Seriously, can't they come up with a better look?

  • April 25, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST

    I'm gonna have to agree with Dickblood

    by caruso_stalker217

    I re-watched the original HALLOWEEN recently and I still like it or whatever... but it's kinda dull. And cheesy. And the acting is not very good (aside from Pleasance). And I've found myself preferring Zombie's film these days, may I burn in Hell for all eternity.

  • April 25, 2009, 2:05 a.m. CST

    I thought the trailer was sweet

    by LongJohnny99

    but I thought the last one looked ok too and was not impressed. I like the helicopter and, hopefully, swat team on Michael. I know Haddonfield's finest dressed up in their Navy Seal gear for part 5 but this looks like a more overwhelming encounter.

  • April 25, 2009, 2:10 a.m. CST

    From a bit further up in the TB...

    by LongJohnny99

    Yes, Prom Night was cheese, but I always found the van slaying to be scary for some reason. The part where they battle to the death while disco dancing is scary as well.

  • April 25, 2009, 2:11 a.m. CST

    Anyone apologizing for this dumb fuck are dumb fucks

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 25, 2009, 2:14 a.m. CST

    As for Loomis and the evolution comment

    by LongJohnny99

    I would say that is just another take on his old theory that Michael was evil incarnate. This Loomis is a little more earthbound and he's just having the same thoughts anyone would have after shooting someone repeatedly: is this fucker human, or what?

  • April 25, 2009, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Looks Good

    by redfist

    At least the guy is going in a different direction with it. Halloween 07, was ok, it had its moments were it was truely disturbing, but it was a let down. <P> This at least looks like it is trying to carve its own niche and continue with what worked and forgetting what doesnt. <P> I am not sure about the ghost mother angle, but as long as she doesnt do that House of a 1000 Corpes cackle laugh, I am down.

  • April 25, 2009, 2:21 a.m. CST

    We will see about the mother thing

    by LongJohnny99

    but I'm down with it so far. One of my main problems with the first Zombie effort was the way he pussied out on Michael's childhood. If you are going to make him a real serial killer, you need to come up with more than a below average trailer park fantasy. However, it might be kind of nice to see some reasoning behind what thoughts plague Michael in his down time. The notion of a romanticised version of his mom and a child version of himself dogging his every step is intriguing.

  • April 25, 2009, 2:28 a.m. CST

    Say what you will about Zombie's HALLOWEEN...

    by caruso_stalker217

    ...I'd still watch it over any of the POS sequels. <p>Though H4 has merit.

  • April 25, 2009, 2:30 a.m. CST

    And I like Michael with a hood

    by caruso_stalker217

  • April 25, 2009, 2:43 a.m. CST

    Yeah - why use the freakiest mask ever?

    by JuanSanchez

    When you've got a hood? Forget that the hood thing has been done to death in the I Know What You Did Last Summer movies and many others like Urban Legend - hoods are cool!!!

  • April 25, 2009, 2:45 a.m. CST


    by MattmanReturns

    Fuck that... I'll take Halloween 2, 4, or H20 any day over Zombie's filth. At least the sequels knew what the character of Michael Myers was. I've never been so discontent walking out of a movie.

  • April 25, 2009, 2:46 a.m. CST

    The Myers-less Halloween 3 was better than Zombie's flick

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 25, 2009, 2:47 a.m. CST

    And why does Michael look like fucking Leatherface now?

    by MattmanReturns

    And have Normon Bates' mother? Goddamn, the South Park guys claimed that Spielberg and Lucas raped Indy... but that was NOTHING compared to what Zombie has done to Michael Myers.

  • April 25, 2009, 2:48 a.m. CST


    by caruso_stalker217

    Anyway, wouldn't the mask be all fucked when Michael got shot in the face or what have you? <p>Wake up, dude. Hoods are coming back, like bell-bottoms in the nineties.

  • April 25, 2009, 2:51 a.m. CST


    by caruso_stalker217

    Nobody wanted to hate Zombie's HALLOWEEN more than me. Well, I'm sure there were people who hated it more. But I was in no hurry to watch it. So I blasted it and talked shit even thought I liked THE DEVIL'S REJECTS and had no problem with Zombie. But then the day came when I knew I had to put my money where my mouth was and actually watch the movie and I ended up liking it enough to watch it three or four more times and then I bought the DVD and became an actual fan of it, I guess. <p>My point is HALLOWEEN II was boring fucking garbage. <p>And, again, HALLOWEEN 4 had some good shit.

  • April 25, 2009, 2:53 a.m. CST

    I think Zombie made a big mistake with HALLOWEEN, though

    by caruso_stalker217

    He should've had the kids watching Carpenter's remake of THE THING.

  • April 25, 2009, 3:30 a.m. CST god...

    by Emit Brown

    How does this "intrigue" you. It's cliche, handheld, crap. There's nothing cinematic about this. There looks to be zero suspense. It's one big cum shot. How can i trust any of the writer's on the site, when they are constantly jerking off hollywood's perverbial cock. stop feeding a machine that is making crap. if we don't go, if we don't promote these piles, hollywood just may get the message that we won't take this anymore. and it has to start with bloggers and writers like you Beaks. Calgon...take me away.

  • April 25, 2009, 3:39 a.m. CST

    Seriously - I spaced out during the beginning of the trailer

    by JuanSanchez

    When they just kept showing Laurie screaming on the gurney. Couldn't hold my attention for 2 fucking minutes.

  • April 25, 2009, 3:58 a.m. CST

    Bog-standard. And WHY does Michael now have accomplices?

    by Sepulchrave

    He seems to have a trailer park Veronica Lake directing him about like some sort of giant robot.

  • April 25, 2009, 4:11 a.m. CST


    by Vern

    Well, that trailer made me interested again. Its not what I expected and doesn't remind me of the things I didn't like in the remake, and is not a remake. I hope it doesn't have any of that painful dialogue like in the first one and I hope they do a good job with Laurie being (apparently) traumatized and don't just try to make her dark and fucked up or whatever.<p> I'm not necessarily against the mask being off if it works. We'll see. But I gotta say, it's funny that Zombie went to such pains in the remake to show that Michael is obsessed with masks. Why do they always think everything has to have a reason? I don't think anybody in the history of ever watched HALLOWEEN and thought, "Yeah, but WHY does he wear a Halloween mask on Halloween? Surely there MUST be something more to it." I guess that's how Zombie felt, so he has Michael not just flipping out on Halloween, he's also obsessed with Halloween and masks. He wears a clown mask while eating breakfast. The Shape mask is not just something he randomly stole, it has personal meaning to him so he buries it and digs it up as an adult. While in the asylum he spends most of his time making masks, covering his walls with them, not wanting to take them off, telling his mom that his face is ugly. So when he gets out the first thing he does is get the mask he killed his sister in.<p> Now Zombie does part 2 and says it wouldn't make sense for a guy to go around wearing a mask all the time.<p>

  • April 25, 2009, 4:15 a.m. CST

    Rob Zombie PLEASE fuck off

    by Brody77

    Your films are shite. You absolutely DESTROYED Halloween with that goddamned rehash. But some of your music is ok, so go back to that!

  • April 25, 2009, 4:25 a.m. CST

    Hatred for Zombie?

    by Forsakyn

    Okay, I certainly understand some may not like his movies so far, but to call him a hack? House of 1000 Corpses wasn't a good movie by any means, but it showed promise here and there - there I'd say mostly in Zombie directing his actors. But The Devil's Rejects - as twisted as it is - it's a very good film (both in acting and direction). I thought Halloween was a step back for him, but I think it's utterly ridiculous to label him as a hack. I just don't understand the "what a hack" sentiment. Because he's a musician? I'd just like to hear actual SPECIFIC reasons you think he's a hack. And no, I'm not some huge fan - I've only liked one of his filmsm (Devil's Rejects - which I thought was really, really good) - but I didn't like his other two.

  • April 25, 2009, 4:58 a.m. CST

    'Resurrection just got a whole lot better.

    by Chris Elms

    I couldn't really see Zombie screwing Halloween up any further with this, but I guess I was wrong. Magic? Really?

  • April 25, 2009, 5:13 a.m. CST

    Man, don't bring RESURRECTION into this

    by caruso_stalker217

    And I see nothing in this teaser that indicates any supernatural goings on.

  • April 25, 2009, 6:07 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    That is all.

  • April 25, 2009, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Fuck, at this point Glenn Danzig could prolly do a Better Hallow

    by Stalkeye

    Atleast the angry dwarf would add some satanic cultural explanation to Myers'evil nature and constitution.(Anyone that gets shot several times and walk away has to be more than just Human...unless you're fiddy-cent.)<p>Let Rob do another shit fest as long as carpenter doesn't let him remake EFNY.

  • April 25, 2009, 6:13 a.m. CST

    The only time

    by kwisatzhaderach

    shortening a films title to initials and numbers has worked was when Jim Cameron used T2 in his Terminator 2 teaser. But he didn't call the actual film T2 did he? It was called Terminator 2 Judgment Day. Anybody that calls their film H2 is a fucking moron. Which nicely covers Rob Zombie. And his wife makes the whole thing look like 80s straight to video junk. Why can't people make great horror films anymore?

  • April 25, 2009, 7:05 a.m. CST


    by r3write

    I get it now! The hood, the reason why LL was never killed, the reason why he wasn't in 3 (busy testing out music videos behind the scenes using subliminal messages as practice for future record sales). He's actually been doing this for over 20 years now. With the movie "RESURRECTION" only implying that it was a prank. Its also the only logical explanation on how the "shape" can return in so many movies without dying. Thanks again ROB! you sure know how to tie up loose ends.

  • April 25, 2009, 7:10 a.m. CST

    He's a hack because he has a bag of old tricks and no skill

    by reflecto

    What are those tricks? Grindhouse/70s-80s horror name-dropping and casting, crazy sepia tones and film stock changes, "redneck horror" chic that is now totally past its prime, and grotesqueries for the sake of themselves with no real purpose. He's basically a glib little poseur who thinks all these films he watched were "kewl" and decided to imitate them for the rest of his life with no sense of what they really meant. He even said the original "Halloween" was a failure because it did not develop the Shape to his personal satisfaction, and so has gone about mutating and mutilating the character and the franchise into his own personal juvenile funhouse mirror version of what he THINKS these old movies were all about. He's never grown or developed beyond ignorant callbacks to better work, scatological humor and dialogue, rape as a time-waster, and badly-drawn caricatures, all of this substituting for actual depth, meaning, character or horror. There is no tension or thrill in any "Rob Zombie film" because the purpose and the methods are always the same: Bawdy sluts, hicks and squares show up and die, possibly to the strains of Styx or Foghat. "Devil's Rejects" was just a retread of better films like LHOTL; romanticizing his wafer-thin "cool psycho" characters with a slo-mo montage set to "Freebird" was the ultimate in cowardice and juvenile sophism. He couldn't be bothered to explain why we should care for them, but he tried to inject cheap insta-pathos anyway because after all, like him, "they're rebels," right? His work is basically cheap, badly-made Continuity Porn for Idiot Children who do nothing but worship older, better horror movies which they could be watching again instead. In his own way, Rob Zombie and his shallow nerd-wanking and vapid obsession with dirty things without a point is no better than that of a McG or Brett Ratner. He just has longer hair.

  • April 25, 2009, 7:12 a.m. CST

    Only question raised by this thread: Trick r Treat this Fall?

    by CreasyBear

  • April 25, 2009, 7:15 a.m. CST

    Zombie's version of H3:

    by Nosferatu Jones

    All the kids will be hypnotized into putting boring old plastic bags over their heads.

  • April 25, 2009, 7:18 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

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  • April 25, 2009, 7:34 a.m. CST

    BSB - you are showing your age

    by toadkillerdog

    That is a very old cartoon

  • April 25, 2009, 7:41 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack <p> Now you will have Eep Op Ork Ah-Ah in your head all day! BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!!

  • April 25, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST


    by 1st and only

    Ugh, that looked as bad as the 1st movie.I hate that bloody kid myers.Totally kills his mystique.Rubbish Rob zombie, rubbish.Remember his 1st human kill, beats another boy to death with a fucking twig!! Laaaame

  • April 25, 2009, 8:28 a.m. CST

    I walked out of his last film.

    by hallmitchell

    Violence was just too disturbing. Too much blood and gore.

  • April 25, 2009, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Zombie's films would be immediately better...

    by moonlightdrive

    simply by not casting Sherri Moon and his friends.

  • April 25, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    If Weird" Al Yankovic was playing Myers.

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    That would be truly scary. Killing people while singing Eat It.

  • April 25, 2009, 9:31 a.m. CST

    What the fuck has he done now?

    by WickedJester

    Vern is exactly right. You make an entire movie about his mask and how he loves it like Madonna loves third world babies. <br><br>Then you make a sequel (which is supposed to pick up EXACTLY where the other left off) and now he's ok without having a mask.<br><br>The mask is the one thing you couldn't possibly fuck up, yet somehow you've done it, Rob. Absolutely amazing, I'm glad I haven't even watched the final cut of HIS Halloween.<br><br>Yea, that's right I watched the early workprint of that too and just like Wolverine I wouldn't pay to see it either.

  • April 25, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST


    by ugh

  • April 25, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    Horror films are 99% crap anyway

    by thot

    They're so dull, predictable and formulaic that I rarely pay attention anymore. H2 looks exactly like more of the same. Maybe Raimi's Drag Me to Hell will be something worth watching.

  • April 25, 2009, 10:07 a.m. CST

    How does that look any different from EVERY OTHER slasher film?

    by Thugsnarf3000

    not even gonna waste my time

  • April 25, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh Mylanta!!!

    by wacko3205

    The trailer looks so bad that it can only be...worse...having to sit through 2 hours of this mess...even less.

  • April 25, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Those who say that the original is not scary

    by LongJohnny99

    I think my first viewing of Halloween was on cable late one night at my grandfather's house. I was six, and naturally the movie scared the shit out of me. To me, it was a realistic scenario, right up till Mikey walks away from his new occupation as target dummy. The fact that 90% of the movie could actually happen is what makes it scary after the hundreth viewing IMO. Also, I would recommend finding the version with the made for television scenes included. These few minutes really change the tone of the film, develop the chararacters a bit more. The fact that the girls explicitly know some creep is messing with them is really fun.

  • April 25, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Where's Busta Rhymes?

    by Senzafine

    Trick or treat... muthafucka.

  • April 25, 2009, 11:26 a.m. CST

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    I loved Zmbie's HALLOWEEN. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I really felt emotions for the characters. Laurie's arc is very classical, very tragic. So is Michael's. The way I viewed the story was that Michael is trying to protect the only person who is, to him, innocent about the world - his little baby sister, Boo. His mother cared about him, too, which is why he never tried to outright kill her. He is fiercely protective and loyal to his sister, and kills his family to protect her from being hurt like he was hurt. When he gets put into the asylum, he is mostly distraught because he can't keep his sister safe. When you watch the first Zombie HALLOWEEN, you see that he doesn't ever try to kill Laurie. He tries to subdue her and basically lock her up to keep her safe. Think of this - he spends his whole lifetime in a mental institution begging to get back out to protect his sister and then WAITING to escape to protect her. How tragic is that, especially given how misguided his efforts are? Now, something has clearly changed in the trailer for the 2nd movie, as he seems to be told by "the voices" to kill Laurie. To me, that's part of the whole mythology of the masks - when he wears the mask he can be a protector for Laurie, can split himself off from being human, isn't part of the world - because all humans are bad - and as long as he wears one, he's not ugly. The ugliness Michael talks about in the first movie is, to me, his own humanity - he doesn't want to be what everyone else is because everyone who is human (except Boo) is bad - evil - to him. That's a pretty interesting character perspective, IMO. Michael isn't just "crazy" to me - he's developed a totally misguided understanding of how the world works and the cause/effect of everything is skewed to that. I find this fascinating. Sorry if most of you don't agree.

  • April 25, 2009, 11:35 a.m. CST

    And how does it not make sense for the mask

    by LongJohnny99

    to have to come off at times if the story skips head in time and Michael is out and about? Not one Halloween has dealt with what the fuck happens to Michael between killing sprees. Well H4 & H5 sort of dead, but he was in a coma, not on the run. So, naturally, he is homeless or living in the woods or something, its not like he has social skills to score a seedy job, plus hes so fucking big he sticks out. So he keeps the mask off when on the run, wears a hood to try to be inconspicuous, and when he's ready to go off he puts it on. That only makes perfect sense in the context of the story being told. Also, the mask looks exactly like it shoud; it was burried for over a decade, he got the shit kicked out of him by Laurie, the thing got dirty and fucked up. Obviously he is still obsessed with masks as the one he has is literally falling off his face and he still won't operate without it when he is in the red.

  • April 25, 2009, 12:14 p.m. CST

    H2? That's really the title?

    by I am_NOTREAL

    Seriously? The entire title is H2? Doesn't bode well for this being anything better than a lazy hack-n-slash ADD pile of junk, but hey, it can't really be worse than "Halloween II," which actually did inhale donkey dick regardless of whether or not Carpenter shot some / most / all of it.

  • April 25, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    How is this moving away from the first film?

    by zooch

    Sheri Moon? Check. Michael as a child? Check. Loomis. Check. Looks like shit.

  • April 25, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST


    by Bjornegar

    Let's see...Michael Myers, maskless, with Jason Vorhees' mother-complex left-over from PSYCHO.<P> So, what is original exactly?

  • April 25, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    the cop at beginning, brad douriff? (sp)

    by Warcraft

    grima wormtongue, chucky, etc etc.

  • April 25, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    I'd like to see Michael Myers wear an Obama mask.

    by scriptgirl_nipples

  • April 25, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST


    by thewizardofoz

    The first one was a disaster and so completely uneven. Why must Zombie turn everything into a redneck hick fetish film?

  • April 25, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Ugh, Busta Rhymes

    by Stalkeye

    don't remind me of that shitty sequel in which myers get karate kicked by Busta. what idiot approved of that script? Zombie (atleast) has the edge over that shitfest.

  • April 25, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST


    by Kief_Ledger

  • April 25, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    I'd like to see Michael Meyers wear a Shrek mask

    by D.Vader

    Oh the irony, its killing me!

  • April 25, 2009, 1:49 p.m. CST

    Gray Blood?

    by Zeegloo

    Damn MPAA!

  • April 25, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST


    by the_beard_of_Chuck_Norris

    God bless you!

  • April 25, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST


    by the_beard_of_Chuck_Norris


  • April 25, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    What most viewers will fell toward H2...

    by the_beard_of_Chuck_Norris


  • April 25, 2009, 2 p.m. CST

    FEEL not FELL

    by the_beard_of_Chuck_Norris

    Now I H8 myself...

  • April 25, 2009, 2:15 p.m. CST


    by Dr Gregory House


  • April 25, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    I though Rob Zombie's "H2" was about a humvee...

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • April 25, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    It needs a Halloween theme...

    by Royston Lodge

    ... I suggest "Happy happy Halloween, Silver Shamrock!"

  • April 25, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Are you people just that easy to please?

    by Angry White baby

    And I'm not talking about you internet people, I'm talking about Beaks, Harry and the AICN gang: so we throw a trenchcoat on, Mikey and it's all HIP and DIFFERENT! You mean like NEW NIGHTMARE? Where Freddy lifts a bad-acting kid in front of highway traffic and hilarity (unfortunately) ensues? HALLOWEEN without the theme music and the mask is like BATTLESTAR GALACTICA without the Egyptian references and the fun... oh wait...

  • April 25, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST


    by Saltoner

    Here we go again. Hollywood giving no talent hacks power to make films. Zombie and his whore wife need to go away and stay away from all things creative.

  • April 25, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    The Mask? Excellent.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Zombie's wife acting in another film? Not excellent.

  • April 25, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    hate boners for H2

    by Sir_Todd

    remember how aweful the idea of a movie based on a disney ride sounded... and yet pirates of the carribean turned out pretty badass... i say reserve judgement, Zombie is not the best or original director but damn if he doesn't entertain the fuck out of me

  • April 25, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Bea Arthur = dead

    by Cedar_Room

  • April 25, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    At least Zombie's films

    by ElvisPresLeeHorsleyHarveyOswaldOprahWinFreeJackHorkheimer

    aren't as bad as his music. <br /> Edward Lee's HEADER is finally being released on dvd soon by Synapse films<br /> It's the only Horror film I'm really looking forward to right now.

  • April 25, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Maude is dead? I guess Myers ....

    by Stalkeye mask is Beatrice Arthur.Rest in Peace Big gal.

  • April 25, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Damn, I was gonna break the Bea Arther News!

    by Dr.DirtyD

  • April 25, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Zombie shouldn't have used the theme in the first place

    by caruso_stalker217

    Just like SUPERMAN RETURNS using Williams' theme. Man, just make your own fucking movie! Using the music is just going to remind people of the other movies.

  • April 25, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST

    I ask again...Who funds Zombie? Or is it his own scratch?

    by conspiracy

    Rob...I'm sure you are a nice guy and all...but Fuck.</p><p>He really should go back to being JUST a Fan of the grindhouse/schlocky, late 60-70's horror genre and stop embarrassing himself.

  • April 25, 2009, 4:07 p.m. CST

    R.I.P Bea Arthur.

    by Harold-Sherbort

  • April 25, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST

    He needs to STOP casting his wife

    by beatleMatt

    She can't act AT ALL - she's just a hot piece of ass, and HILARIOUSLY bad line delivery.

  • April 25, 2009, 4:10 p.m. CST


    by lockesbrokenleg

    What a legacy.

  • April 25, 2009, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Your opinion folks...Do "Slasher" films still work?

    by conspiracy

    The virulent mix of violence and alluded too sex that was the hallmark of these films is so common place these days...I believe they have lost the "Shock" they once had. I know some teenagers...they never go to horror films...say they are stupid and sad. are some real life examples why these types of movies no longer work...</p><p>1. Dude I know has a 14yr old daughter, who got caught posting her own "Bate" vids to the Chans...her and her 14yr old friend thought it was fun and sexy...and that alot of other girls were doing it...needless to say the web cam and phone got taken away.</p><p>2.Know another "Kid" who started a fight club in highschool...and posted the fights to Youtube. </p><p>3.Another young dude I met at college showed me at least half a dozen sites where you can see real murder, beheadings, sniper name it...he and his friends watched these things like WE used to watch Slasher films...but THESE are real.</p><p>Do you see what I'm saying? Where is the shock factor, the sex titillation in these films for the typical teen when the REAL world is much more graphic and immediate? Sex and violence are part of everyday life, and it is all captured on vid. My opinion and experience...the originals were fine..they were of a time and place and as such hold some value to those of us who like film, or remember seeing them first run...but honestly..I just don't think your traditional slasher/horror film works anymore for the target audience...Not when you can watch almost real time war vids, Saudi executions, and your next door neighbor masturbate for you on webcam. The world has changed...traditional horror isn't so horrifying.

  • April 25, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST


    by OptimusCrime

    I just read your comments about Quarantine being good and I had to post a response. I'm not going to call you a dipshit for liking that movie or anything, but I am TRULY shocked that anyone could enjoy it. I went to a matinee and...well words are literally failing me. I hated it.

  • April 25, 2009, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Bea Arthur=Fucking Professional.

    by conspiracy

    Plus we all owe you thanks Bea, for introducing us to Adrienne Barbeau, whom provided the Best breasts of the 70s.

  • April 25, 2009, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Sherri Moon channeling otis from HO1KC...

    by Monkey_King

    We never saw her blow her brains out, only heard the shot and assumed she died and left a baby girl behind.

  • April 25, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Conspiracy what's a "Bate" vid and who are the Chans?

    by D.Vader

    Do wha?

  • April 25, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Band wagon hoppers

    by Seth Gecko

    Boo hoo hoo. We all hate Rob Zombie blah blah blah. What a bunch of wankers. Rob Zombie doesn't give a shit what any of you detractors think. You know why? Cos he at least is a filmmaker and all those who bag him are just pathetic and jealous. True story. Slagging off his wife is just nasty. Yeah JC's original was genius and always will be. Marcus Nispel should be the one you take aim at for what he did to Jason this year. Worst horror film ever made.

  • April 25, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST

    I liked the trailer

    by Carri

    I think people are too hard on the remake. I think it stands on its own. And this sequel looks like fun. I want to watch it.

  • April 25, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST

    SpakeHorseshit....more like it..

    by quantize

    seriously, wtf is wrong with you?

  • April 25, 2009, 6:09 p.m. CST

    You can say Zombie is hack, but

    by j_ky2002

    You can't say that he is destroying the Halloween franchise. How many fucking retcons and loose ends did they leave in the original movies? Fuck, it was never intended to be a continuing saga, it was meant to be more like The Twilight Zone, only in movie versions instead of television shows. Just because something dosen't scare you at the age of 36 like it did when you were 6 years old doesn't change the quality of the movie.

  • April 25, 2009, 7:26 p.m. CST


    by JuanSanchez

  • April 25, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    1st half Rocked

    by JoplinCat

    1st half of his remake was great... I wish he had went with his vision, because the second half was a tired retread...

  • April 25, 2009, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Trailer looks good

    by kafka07

    the hospital stuff and the Myers look is pretty creepy

  • April 25, 2009, 8:02 p.m. CST

    D.Vader...Dude...You are a professional...

    by conspiracy

    you can't be serious. If so...Google is your friend.

  • April 25, 2009, 11:13 p.m. CST

    The title "H2"...

    by Darth Mulder

    ...isn't very good but I am surprised that no one seems to realize why it isn't being called "Halloween 2".It's because Universal pictures owns the rights to that title.I suppose that maybe they could call it "Rob Zombie's Halloween 2" if they wanted to.

  • April 25, 2009, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Rob Zombie's best movie was Dances With Wolves

    by WerePlatypus

    Ah shit, that was Costner. I was thinking of the OTHER no-talent hack who mysteriously gets hollywood money.

  • April 26, 2009, 1:14 a.m. CST

    Rob Zombie - doing the same tired shit year

    by lockesbrokenleg

    after year. He must go to the George Romero School of Useless Bullshit

  • April 26, 2009, 1:23 a.m. CST

    I hope when the trailer guy says "Rob Zombie completes.."

    by King Conan

    his vision or whatever, I hope that COMPLETES means FINISHES fucking with this franchise. Damn that trailer looks so fuckin stupid.

  • April 26, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST


    by NixEclips

    ...It might make me hat RZ even more. More than I hated his "re-fuckening" of the original:

  • April 26, 2009, 1:54 a.m. CST


    by NixEclips

    That should be "hate". Fuck.

  • April 26, 2009, 1:55 a.m. CST

    Why would I

    by NixEclips

    Want to wear Hillbillyween as a hat?

  • April 26, 2009, 2 a.m. CST

    I googled it, Conspiracy

    by D.Vader

    And actually nothing came up. I got a lot of foreign language crap, but I didn't find anything that linked it all together?

  • April 26, 2009, 2:45 a.m. CST

    RZ's Halloween was fucking great and...

    by ecm

    ...H2 looks good. Alot of you said Myers doesn't need a background, well, I think he does. You see , Carpenter's Halloween had, like, 7 sequels and Myers wasn't scary anymore. Zobie took Halloween as if it was a story not fully formed, just a plot, applied a back story and kept with the plot. H2 is not a remake of the sequel to Carpenter's Halloween, it's a sequel to Zobie's Halloween. If what you say is true, Myers changing his mask is keeping with the way he did as a child. Giving him the face of the kid, then shoving a mask on him almost coved by long unclean hair makes you wonder whats under there now. And the white mask is like another person, not child Micheal, but unknown-faced Micheal. I do agree with the lot of you that Sheri Moon does spend too much time in Zobie's films, but she wasn't that bad. Halloween is not a continuation of the plot, like Carpenter's, it's a continuation of the life of Micheal Myers through Zobie's eyes. Carpenter said "Make it you own" and goddamn it, he did. I loved Zombie's remake. I thought it was the best of the Halloween's (Halloween III being the worst), even been better than the original (yes, you can hate me for saying that). Myers also died in the original but he still came back. I loved RZ's Halloween and can't wait for H2. Fuck, Rob Zombie does know how to direct a fucking picture.

  • April 26, 2009, 2:53 a.m. CST

    I don't think King Conan has seen RESURRECTION

    by caruso_stalker217

    You know, the one where Busta Rhymes kicks Michael Myers' ass. That's about as low as it gets. Rob Zombie can do whatever the fuck he wants, in my opinion.

  • April 26, 2009, 3:32 a.m. CST

    The Shape should don a grass skirt

    by thegreatwhatzit

    He should gracefully dance to the "Honolulu, Baby" melody. Then somebody torches his skirt. The Shape soundly wimpers and, in a panic, collides with the camera lens. There's your trailer--and the future of the HALLOWEEN franchise.

  • April 26, 2009, 3:42 a.m. CST

    How many accounts does Zombie have here to...

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 26, 2009, 3:43 a.m. CST

    talk himself up? No real person could like his shit!!!

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 26, 2009, 3:43 a.m. CST


    by JuanSanchez

  • April 26, 2009, 5:48 a.m. CST


    by ChuckImania

    I understand where you're coming from, BUT, it's not as if people that admire the grindhouse genre are pretentious film majors that cherish pieces of shit like Michael Snows Wavelength on the merit of it being "revolutionary". People know what they're in for when they put on a grind house, or exploitation film. It's unfair to categorize the entire genre as being complete and utter shit. Even the worst exploitation has some sort of comedic merit, and the ideas, which are for the most part off the wall, are at least somewhat original as opposed the regurgitation being shown in theaters today.

  • April 26, 2009, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Rob doing another Halloween is a creative cop-out

    by Stalkeye

    One would think that from his previous run from the (now defunct) White Zombie band, he would come up with all kinds of orginal concepts for a horror film. But noooooooo we have to endure a sequel to a remake and a bad remake at that.<p>If Rob is not going for orginality like his mentor john carpenter, then stick to cutting records although your last album; educated horses was shit on a bun.Fuck, where's Clive Barker these days?

  • April 26, 2009, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Mommy egging on the son to kill

    by Miss 45

    Zombie pretty much stole it from the Friday the 13th series. Jason, my special, special boy. Do you know what your gift is? No matter what they do to you, you cannot die. You can never die.....

  • April 26, 2009, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Oh and yeah

    by Miss 45

    This looks sucky terrible. Stick to music Zombie!

  • April 26, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Talentless Hack

    by Virdon

    Rob Zomie is a talentless hack. 'nuff said.

  • April 26, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST


    by j_ky2002

    What could possibly be new in horror now? Not a goddamned thing. Previously I said you could call ZOmbie a hack, but I didn't mean that I thought he was a hack. HTC and TDR was about as original as it could get right now. All RZ is doing is just what Carpenter said, he is taking the Halloween concept and making it his own. He's not fucking up Carpenter's Halloween, he is doing his own version, and shouldnt even be compared with the old ones. I like the background on Meyers, etc. The old shit of an unstoppable quasi-immortal killing machine is so fucking stupid. Show us he's a fucking human being, and that there is a chance that each "death" will be the one that finally does MM in, and I will go see it.

  • April 26, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Zombie's Halloween was better than the original?

    by Rob0729

    Really?!? Even when the second half of Zombie's Halloween was just a half-hearted almost scene for scene remake of the original with no character development or suspense?<br><br> Also, Myers didn't need a back story. Why made him so creepy in the original was that he had no backstory. In fact, he became less interesting as his backstory was developed (although all the Druid stuff was just stupid).

  • April 26, 2009, 12:43 p.m. CST


    by Darth Mulder

    First thing,Myers did not die in the original.Loomis shot him and the final shot was of Loomis seeing that he was gone.Second thing is that I agree with you.I also liked Zombie's Halloween a lot.What I don't understand is all these people who claim the second half was just a shot for shot remake of the original.Up to the "see anything you like"scene it was almost.After that it looked new to me.The new trailer looks good to me also.One final thing,anybody out there that thinks Jason saw visions of his mother telling him to kill people is out of their mind.Jason killed to avenge his mother's death.The only times he "saw" her were in part 2 when that girl was pretending to be his mother at the end to confuse him and in Freddy vs. Jason.And that was just Freddy screwing with him.

  • April 26, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    I Liked the first one a lot actually

    by ThaJackaL

    And this one looks great! Except I don't like that the main kid from part 1 was re cast... I thought he was excellent in the role.

  • April 26, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Overboard cameos? LIKE HIS fucking WIFE ??

    by FleshMachine

    in a starring role?? shes awful.

  • April 26, 2009, 2:30 p.m. CST

    Daig Faerch...

    by Darth Mulder

    ...the main kid from part 1 was recast because he hit a major growth spurt and is now way too tall for the part.

  • April 26, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    "Looks Original"?????

    by ludovicotek

    You must be crazy. This looks like nothing more than a remake of Halloween 2. How can you say that the trailer looks original? All they did was take the hospital elements of part 2 and throw in the whole Jason Voorhees/Pamela Voorhees relationship that has no business in a Halloween movie. This does not look any better than Zombie's first Halloween effort. He obviously does not understand the Michael Myers character at all.

  • April 26, 2009, 4:21 p.m. CST

    Excatly, SoylentMean...

    by j_ky2002

    I find the origin stuff to be entertaining, as an unstoppable machine is not entertaining. It's been done too many times. I find it interesting that RZ's MM is a homeless person, blending in. Just because he is injecting some realism doesn't mean it's not the same characters, etc. It's an insult to my intelligence that I am suppossed to believe that a monster like that doesn't have to get money to eat and shit like that. He's a man, not an unexplainable force of nature.

  • April 26, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Shit the Bed!

    by pokadoo

  • April 26, 2009, 4:51 p.m. CST

    Shit the Bed!

    by pokadoo

  • April 26, 2009, 4:52 p.m. CST


    by pokadoo

    Browser went wonky.

  • April 26, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Darth Mulder

    by Rob0729

    The end did deviate from the original, but for the most part the second half was a shot for shot remake without character development or suspense. I have always said that biggest thing that held Zombie back from making a good film was the Halloween part of Halloween. If he did his own original story, it would have been much better since he was trying to force the Halloween characters and storyline into a new idea rather than trying to make a different take on the Halloween saga.

  • April 26, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST


    by loafroaster

    ...I suggest you watch "Let the Right One In".

  • April 26, 2009, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Looks pretty cliche to me.

    by Ivan_Mtl

    There isn't anything in this trailer that I haven't seen in countless other slasher films in the past. I have no idea why Rob Zombie felt the need to show us Michael Myers' childhood in the first film. The original John Carpenter Halloween worked because it presented Michael as an almost elemental force which literally made us question whether he was, in fact, the Bogeyman. Oh, and the woman in white that seems to exert control over him is just a dumb idea.

  • April 26, 2009, 11:59 p.m. CST

    some of you people say the stupidest shit I have ever heard in m

    by BrightEyes

    and I'm sure your at your computer thinking you are witty

  • April 27, 2009, 12:26 a.m. CST


    by DrMorbius

    Really!!! Try learning how to spell, grammar, context, syntax, punctuation, and capitalization. Nobody is saying anything, you are reading what they wrote. I'm just sayin'.....

  • April 27, 2009, 1:07 a.m. CST

    I haven't seen the first one

    by MorpheusTheSandman

    And I am not going to watch H2, but I did like the trailer. Very effective.

  • April 27, 2009, 3:03 a.m. CST


    by ChuckImania

    I agree 110%. The best part of Zombies Halloween was the first twenty or so minutes, after that the film became a rehash of the original and lost its angle. With that said I still enjoyed Zombie's version.

  • April 27, 2009, 7:26 a.m. CST

    You guys are literally insane...

    by j_ky2002

    About RZ's first Halloween film, you guys are flipping out over the origin stuff. Do you really want a shot-for-shot remake of the original? What is the point of that? That's churning out a movie just to churn one out. To me, the psychological horror of seeing a normal man walking the streets who is a vicious serial killer is more frightening than some supernatural killing machine.

  • April 27, 2009, 7:33 a.m. CST

    "Ugly bitch"? WTF?

    by Cruel_Kingdom

    Sherri Moon Zombie? You motherfuckers are tripping now. Maybe she can't act for shit, but Sherri Moon Zombie is hot as fuck.

  • April 27, 2009, 8:06 a.m. CST

    looks original?!

    by filmcoyote

    Beaks seriously? Mirror jumps, shower curtain jumps, the following-Laurie-to-the-hospital plotline lifted directed from the original Halloween 2, more of Zombie's over-played "what made him who he is" crap with rent-a-bimbo Sheri Moon Zombie? This looks tired drivel.

  • April 27, 2009, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Just when I thought...

    by Abominable Snowcone

    ...that Zombie couldn't mess up this franchise any worse. This looks terrible.

  • April 27, 2009, 9:05 a.m. CST


    by Beezbo

    I can't believe that "H2" is the title of this movie. Didn't this letter-title nonsense start with "Terminator 2" being called "T2"? (but that wasn't the TITLE of the movie!) When will this end? Do people associate Halloween movies with the letter H? Now what will we call the sequel to "Hairspray"?

  • April 27, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    fuck that

    by RobFromBackEast

    I don't care that it looks original - It shouldn't be called a Halloween film, then. He butchered the first film with that fucking god awful mess, and now he's continuing to piss on the carcass of a genuine horror icon.

  • April 27, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Rob zombie movies equal trash cinema.

    by Snypershawn

    So when you say surprising, did you mean another vortex of suckitude, what studios give money to zombie or Uwe Boll, these two alone are bringing Hollywood to cr*ptastic levels of epic proportions, I think the writers of epic movie could make a better horror movie.

  • April 27, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Rob zombie movies equal trash cinema.

    by Snypershawn

    So when you say surprising, did you mean another vortex of suckitude, what studios give money to zombie or Uwe Boll, these two alone are bringing Hollywood to cr*ptastic levels of epic proportions, I think the writers of epic movie could make a better horror movie.

  • April 27, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Zombie! Make this instead...(help us help you)

    by Cellar Door

    So apparently this guy bounces around anonymously from time to time in TB's. I still think it was a false rumor to give him Conan and when the TB for that node went apeshit, well perhaps their is influence in the rafters.<p>But seriously seems like you're heart is in the right place. I saw you on a Horror movie retrospective and you seem to get the genre and genuinely seem to be a fan.<p>Once upon a time, there was a thread that was suggesting other remakes you could do and I've literally got the most perfect Zombie film so very ripe for a remake that it's perfect.<p>1977's The Car. Staring James Brolin and directed by Elliot Silverstein, it is simply a remake made in the fiery hells of Gehenna for YOU dude! It's perfect! It's not a iconic film but is still quite badass for something over 30 years old. It's not part of a franchise but might be one if you did great work here. It's perfectly fit to your idiosyncratic styles...gritty, midwestern, remote locales, etc. <p>My only advice is drop the usuals, except maybe for Sid Haig. No Danny Trejo, no William Forsthye, no Bill Mosley. Haig is awesome and would be perfect for the R.G. Armstrong role (the white trash asshole guy with the explosives)...<p>Seriously Rob, this movie is fucking perfect for you on so many levels and with it you can give us the kick ass American grit horror movie you seem to have lurking somewhere in that melon of yours.<p>Keep the long road house scene know the one "I can hear it and it's getting louder!!"...that scene is one of my favorites and also please don't explain anything that the original doesn't. Keep the ending somewhat obvious but also ambiguous like in the original but otherwise make it yours. (maybe get someone else to write dialog but don't feel bad..Lucas can't write dialog for shit either)...

  • April 27, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Rob's problem is movie type..not talent

    by ScottinDC

    The issue here isn't that Rob will make a bad film (I agree this trailer looks pretty bad). But Rob HAS made a good film - the Devils Rejects was excellent; but not the 'horror' aspects of it....if you watch the scene with the Firefly family sitting around talking with the hookers at the Brothel (with Danny Trejo and partner sneaking around exacting revenge on bystanders), the film is incredibly solid. It's a great sequence...and Devils Rejects had several. Rob could do a truly gritty and fantastically fucked up action flick...T Rex has a cool plot and would better showcase what he does well. He just needs to get away from shit horror films and branch out to something more interesting.

  • April 27, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Sheri Moon Zombie = Sandra Locke

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Rob. Buddy. Get that fucking boat anchor of your neck.

  • April 27, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    RZ -> remake "The Car'..(perfect for you)

    by Cellar Door

    Seriously....go watch it (it came out on sd-dvd last year) it whatever. It's not grindhouse but it has a gritty edge not unlike was originally pg(!) so Rob could harshen it up a bit with a nice 'R'...has some elements of evil and chaos, darkness. It has characters right out of the Zombie script-book plus the sheer fucking kick ass badass-ness of The Car itself.<p>Don't go all mystery busting tho...keep it tight and brutal...up the effects and the gore...I swear it's perfect for Zombie. Perfect.

  • April 27, 2009, 3:56 p.m. CST

    Didn't the first movie explain Michael's madness?

    by Violator90

    Explainig why Michael went "mad" was what killed it for me. I loved the explanation Dr. Lumis stated, "Michael is pure evil." That's all the explanation I needed. Zobie's version made him just another slasher with childhood issues. I wasn't expecting much from Zombie's HALLOWEEN, but I didn't fully hate it. But now this?!?! It really makes no sense now. There is nothing more to Michael other than he's got issues. Give it up Zombie, move on to other genres and stop with horror movies.

  • April 27, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Rob Zombie is a piece of shit.

    by OutlawsDelejos

    His Grindhouse trailer was great. End of praise.

  • May 29, 2009, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Being called Halloween II now

    by CapnJake

    on the new behind the scenes you tube channel dimmension horror, all of the video footage, has dumped the H2 logo and now has a halloween 2 logo instead. zombie even has a new message just posted today and he repeatedly calls it halloween 2. Not H2 anymore