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Spare a thought for Eric Bana: this year has seen him voice a supporting character in a claymation movie, make a documentary about a car he owns, and appear as the villain in a STAR TREK movie. Jesus Christ.

Hang on -- sorry, I'm being informed it's no longer the 1990s... okay, so the above things are actually good. What, is 2009 Opposite Year? Bana doesn't have a huge role in MARY AND MAX, Adam Elliot's follow-up to his Oscar-winning HARVIE KRUMPET, but he's terrific in his role, and the film itself is unmissable. His documentary, LOVE THE BEAST, has been a commercial hit, and certain discredited film critics thought it was pretty damned good. As for his role in STAR TREK... well, I don't want to give anything away. You might have to scroll down to the bottom to read my thoughts on that.

But on the way make sure you read some local news-y items I've put together.


In news that surely can't be relevant to anyone not living in Victoria or New South Wales, it seems the GREEN LANTERN film will film in Sydney instead of Melbourne. NSW Premier and Minister for the Arts Nathan Rees called a press conference a week or two back to gloat to everyone about the coup. The film officially begins pre-production in July, with serial Bond rebooter Martin Campbell at the helm. Though no casting has been finalised, AICN-Downunder understands that Warner Bros is giving serious consideration to every actor who ever lived.

And if you think the last story barely qualifies as news, you're going to love this one: apparently JOHN CARTER OF MARS was looking at South Australia as a possible location. Not the craziest thing in the world -- RED PLANET apparently filmed here, and the SA desert has been used by non-filmy people to genuinely simulate the Martian landscape. But, according to Screen Hub, producers were miffed at the media reports of the location recce, and decided on Texas instead. I do wonder, however, if a major big-budget film would compromise its best interest because it's pissy at some local reporters, but there you go.

There's a local, low budget effort I'm looking forward to catching: RE-LIVING OFF THE LAND. Check out the trailer by clicking here.


2009 Cannes Film Festival

Two big coups for local productions. Firstly, Jane Campion's BRIGHT STAR (about poet John Keats), starring Abbie Cornish and Ben Whishaw, will play in Official Competition. Campion's film will be competing with a lot of unknown directors such as Pedro Almodovar, Michael Haneke, Ang Lee, Ken Loach, Gasper No, Park Chan-wook, Quentin Tarantino, Johnnie To, and Lars von Trier. Meanwhile, SAMSON AND DELILAH, which recently premiered in Alice Springs, is playing in the Un Certain Regard section. It's a huge coup for the film, but its inclusion won't be of surprise to anyone who's seen it (click here if you missed my ringing endorsement of it a few columns back). AICN-D's fingers, toes, and inexplicable protrusions are all firmly crossed in support.

FANBOYS Melbourne Screenings

I'll be catching a screening of it some time next week, but for interested locals, FANBOYS is finally getting an Australian release. Melbourne geeks can catch the film in a limited run at the Australian Centre for the Moving Image from Friday the 5th of June until Sunday the 21st.


Some local news outlets have been excited at the strong performance of MARY AND MAX, and I was looking forward to touting this, but I think they were referring to relative strong performance for a bleak Australian claymation. In addition to the below five, Australians also saw (6) KNOWING, (7) DRAGONBALL EVOLUTION, (8) PINK PANTHER 2, (9) PAUL BLART: MALL COP, and (10) INKHEART. If you'll excuse me, I'm going to go jump off a bridge. (Side note prediction: the fifth FAST AND FURIOUS film will be called FAST V FURIOUS. Get it? As in "versus", but also the Roman numeral five? Just getting my theory in early so I can gloat later. Fine. Shut up.)

3. 17 AGAIN


A page from a Target catalogue gets the big screen treatment, Natalie Imbruglia makes a film about the state of the Australian film industry (BOO YAH!), Vin Diesel and Paul Walker sign on to a sequel that two definitive articles avoided, Dylan Moran stars in a fillum with him in it, another of Kubrick's old scripts gets dug up, Brendan Fraser continues his career seppuku, Jean-Claude Van Damme stars in the BEING JOHN MALKOVICH sequel, DreamWorks cashes in on B movie goodness, Steve Martin snatches his seppuku sword back from Brendan Fraser, a foreign character drama presumably serves as an audition piece for a future TWILIGHT sequel, and last year's Un Certain Regard winner finally emerges.




(very mild spoilers -- nothing you won't have seen in early coverage, though)

I'm pretty sure Paramount has an intense dislike for me.

First, they greenlit "Enterprise", an horrific, pathetic attempt to appeal to a wider audience. Not only did it fail to do that, but it turned a faithful viewer such as myself off completely. Then they greenlit STAR TREK: NEMESIS, a film so bad, I just spent five minutes trying to come up with an analogy to adequately illustrate how bad it is (clearly, I failed). As someone who continued to support and enjoy the franchise through "Voyager" (underrated) and STAR TREK: INSURRECTION (also underrated), this was a dual slap in the face. Or a two-handed slap on either side my face. Whichever you prefer.

If that wasn't bad enough, the new STAR TREK movie was premiered in two place at once: Sydney and Austin. As the Melbourne-based Australian writer for an Austin website, it felt like I was being deliberately taunted.

However, I could be wrong about this. Maybe Paramount doesn't hate me specifically. And hey, if I'm wrong about that, maybe I'm wrong about a lot of things. I had a lot of preconceived notions going into TREK the other night. Maybe I should examine some of them.

Prequels Suck: Again, a lesson taught by "Enterprise". The vast majority of prequels really, really suck. They don't work because we already know the ending, and most writers don't seem to be clever enough to make that impediment work in their favour. They are either confined by the events they are leading up to, or they abandon these constraints and make a hash of the continuity (continuity = fidelity of story, by the way; it's little to do with fanboyish obsessiveness). The rest of the time, they rob mysterious characters of their mystery. Almost invariably, prequels suck. Though there are probably many exceptions (please, point them out in the talkback below), I will now cite STAR TREK as being the key exception to this rule. Before STAR TREK, I never felt I needed to know the origins of Kirk and company. Somehow, TREK refreshes itself, abandoning the self-conscious shackles that "Enterprise" suffered from, breathing new life into characters without betraying their roots.

Alternative Timeline Stories Don't Normally Work: I love a good parallel universe story as much as the next guy, but I really hate the way a lot of science fiction uses it as a crutch. Instead of exploring what the concept of a parallel universe could mean, most of them seem to begin with the idea of "Hey, you've seen parallel universe stories before, haven't you? This is another one of those". It evokes lazy writing, and serves as an excuse to do whatever you want with the story without regard to continuity of character. Except here. Rather than using rushing through an alternative timeline scenario in order to do whatever they feel like, the writers weave a story thathinges on disrupted history, on altered destiny, on changed fortune. The level of exploration that this idea receives is of a quality I'd expect from Asimov or Dick or Ellison in a glorious old paperback of short stories. I really didn't expect this sort of genuine science fiction to exist in a tentpole studio blockbuster.

The Cast Doesn't Look Right, Especially Karl Urban: John Cho is Korean, not Japanese. Anton Yelchin was only cast 'cos he has a Russian name. Karl Urban is a Kiwi who looked Nordic in LORD OF THE RINGS, and in no way resembles DeForest Kelly. Oh, it feels so good to be wrong. For a start, to hell with it, John Cho is great as Sulu. Yelchin is spot-on as Chekov. Karl Urban is utterly perfect as McCoy, nailing the voice, the temperament, everything. He's possibly my favourite actor in the film, which is saying something, given how much I enjoyed everyone else. I wasn't expecting Chris Pine to get close to Kirk; it was such a huge expectation, I didn't even think to burden him with. Somehow, Pine does everything Shatner did as Kirk, but gives him an extra, rebellious, youthful edge that fits beautifully with what we've seen already. Quinto is brilliant as Spock, and not just because he looks like him. I always hate the "half human" thing that all "Trek" franchises (and many other franchises) subscribe to, because it feels like a lame attempt to make them "relatable". You know, as if the ten other human characters weren't relatable enough. But here, Spock's duality is essential to his story, and it brings an added arc that Spock didn't have seem to have in the original series (although it did emerge as the movies progressed). Zoe Saldana is brilliant in capturing Uhuru's essence, and Simon Pegg is utterly perfect as Scotty. (Side note: when Pegg was cast, did anyone else have a flashback to Pegg in "Spaced" saying that all odd-numbered "Star Trek" films suck? I really hope they put that clip on the STAR TREK (XI) DVD as an easter egg...)

Cloyingly "Clever" References To Appease The Fans Will Also Suck: Actually, though this thing is chock-full of references, you'd never know it if you were a newbie. We actually get to see the Kobyashi-Maru test, but you'd never know it hadn't been invented for the purposes of this film, rather than referenced decades ago in an earlier incarnation. You don't need to go in knowing about the history of the pre-Kirk Enterprise, and who Christopher Pike is; again, he may as well have been invented for the purposes of this film. In fact, the references used in STAR TREK are so deft, there's even a reference to the "Enterprise" show that I loved. That was something I never thought possible.

It Might Have Some Lame Jokes, But They Won't Be Funny: Okay, this isn't really a preconceived notion I had beforehand -- I'm just including it so I can talk about how damned funny the film is. All the jokes work, and there are a lot of them. They found a funny angle on Chekov's accent, for crying out loud! That old chestnut, and it still worked! And the main characters get funny, in-character gags, it's not just all left to Simon Pegg. I was not expecting it to be this consistently funny.

Paramount Can Pour As Much Money As They Want Into It, The General Public Will Never Like STAR TREK: Prepare for conventional wisdom to be thrown out the window. Paramount's been trying to get a TREK that will appeal to Joe Q. HateTrek for years, and their last two attempts failed so dismally, I thought the task impossible. STAR TREK will turn this on its head. People who have never seen TREK before are going to love this. I guarantee it. I mean, I'm not even nervous about making that claim. You're going to see people going back to watch this again and again, even if they've never liked the series beforehand.

TREK Is Dead. This Film Cannot Be Great. The Most It Can Hope For Is Not Sucking: Truly, this is what I was feeling going in. "Please don't suck," I was thinking, and that was the high watermark I wanted it to live up to. I didn't think any of it would work. Prequels, alternative timelines, reboots, more attempts to appeal to a wider audience (presumably, again, at the expense of fans); it all just looked horrible to me. I was not expecting this film to be great. I did not expect to come out wishing I could go back in and watch it all over again. (And I've sneakily booked myself into another press screening in a few days...) I did not expect to love this movie, but love it I did. Director JJ Abrams, writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman, you have all done a tremendous job. I really, really, did not think it could be this incredible.

Paramount Has An Intense Dislike For Me: Nah, they don't really. I was just steamed about the whole NEMESIS, "Enterprise", and Sydney/Austin thing. Given the sheer brilliance of this new movie, I would say they like me an awful lot.


- Guillermo del Toro reveals the third Hellboy movie will see Big Red become a heroin-addicted jazz musician in THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN ARMY

- Extensive reshoots will see John Travolta and Denzel Washington out to get Australian actor David Wenham, in the retitled THE TAKING OF WENHAM 1 2 3

- The Weinstein Company announces Elijah Wood will no longer be starring in any of their movies after the actors knocked on Harvey's door during the worst possible moment of his Passover seder

Peace out,


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  • April 23, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST


    by DeweyOxburger

  • April 23, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    I'm da best maan, I deed it...

    by DeweyOxburger

  • April 23, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    still waiting for bana in....

    by thinboyslim.

    time travelers wife. what's it been? a decade since they shot that? where the hell is it!!

  • April 23, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    This guy's got so many leaves on him...

    by TheCap

    ... he can't possibly be anything but a Paramount studio plant. PLANT ! PLANT ! PLANT !

  • April 23, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    "I met a strange lady, she made me nervous..."

    by Leafar the Lost

    Men-At-Work, "Downunder" Traveling in a fried-out combie On a hippie trail, head full of zombie I met a strange lady, she made me nervous She took me in and gave me breakfast And she said, Do you come from a land down under? Where women glow and men plunder? Cant you hear, cant you hear the thunder? You better run, you better take cover. Buying bread from a man in brussels He was six foot four and full of muscles I said, do you speak-a my language? He just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich And he said, I come from a land down under Where beer does flow and men chunder Cant you hear, cant you hear the thunder? You better run, you better take cover. Lying in a den in bombay With a slack jaw, and not much to say I said to the man, are you trying to tempt me Because I come from the land of plenty? And he said, Oh! do you come from a land down under? (oh yeah yeah) Where women glow and men plunder? Cant you hear, cant you hear the thunder? You better run, you better take cover.

  • April 23, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    This guy lost all credibility the moment he...

    by NeoMyers

    ...said he hated "Nemesis," but thinks Nemesis's predecessor, "Insurrection" and "Star Trek: Voyager" are UNDERRATED. I will admit at the outset that I like Nemesis and, frankly, cannot understand why it is so universally derided. No one has ever really explained, to my satisfaction, how it is that Nemesis is this "awful" film. Usually, the thing I hear is about Data singing. Yeah, that was kinda lame, but this is "Star Trek"! The franchise that took its original crew and put them in 1986 San Francisco and had them act like baffoons for two hours. I LIKE Star Trek IV, mind you, but let's have some perspective here. And regarding "Voyager" and "Insurrection" do I need to even say anything? "Insurrection" fails because it's basically an episode of the TV show, but put into movie format instead. The stakes are so small, especially after saving all of man-kind in the previous feature. And "Voyager"?? Are you kidding me? I'll admit that "Voyager," in premise, sounds interesting and exciting. Hypothetically, "Voyager" might have been the best Star Trek ever -- it's premise is pretty good. But in execution the writers and producers never harnessed the inherent drama of the ship's situation. By the end of the show Voyager should have been falling apart, at least scarred with battle damage, and its crew frayed at wits end. But no, the ship gets back home looking fucking better than it did when they left! And with super-duper Borg killing weapons to boot! So, yeah... Latauro, you're credibility equals exactly zero.

  • April 23, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    "Voyager (underrated)"

    by KazamaSmokers

    ...aaaannnndd we can all stop reading right there.

  • April 23, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Ah, just in time for the haters

    by critch

    As once again they flail about trying to find any reason to discount yet another stellar review of Star Trek. Sorry morons, the movie rocks, it's going to do very well, become the biggest Trek ever, enable Abrams and co. to do whatever it is they want, and there's not a damned thing you can do about it. Oh yeah, and Transformers will be the biggest movie of this year, and Avatar won't even be on the map. "I'm laughing at the superior intellect."

  • April 23, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Yeah, Insurrection is the worst Next Gen film

    by Browncoat_Jedi

    it's truly the Trek film that looks like they expanded a TV show with a slightly bigger budget. And I agree, Voyager totally blew.

  • April 23, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    I, too, think "Star Trek" is going to be amazing...

    by NeoMyers

    ...but that doesn't mean this guy's opinions on the matter have to count. They don't make sense. He hated "Enterprise." Okay. Got it. But "Voyager's" underrated? They were made by the same brain-dead fucks and suffered from the same inane problems. At least "Enterprise" had Sam Beckett as the Captain and Dean Stockwell guested once. So, no, not a hater--I'm sure "Star Trek" will be incredible.

  • April 23, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Bana is also in Funny People

    by Total Geekazoid

    Damn, he's having a good run, eh?

  • April 23, 2009, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Re: Urban owns as Bones

    by Fireball XL-5

    Karl Urban is a fantastic impressionist. Last year in the CBS prequel to 'Lonesome Dove' he did a dead-on Tommy Lee Jones.

  • April 23, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Voyager DID suck but...

    by DeafPoet

    The guy just said it was underrated. Hardly a glowing review. What DOES give me some trepidation is that there isn't a single reservation expressed about the movie in there. I'm sure it's pretty good, given all the reviews so far; but there really isn't a SINGLE thing he thought they could do better? THAT'S what shoots his credibility for me. But fuck it, I'm a huge fanboy and I want it to be as good as everyone says so I'll just go ahead keep my rose colored glasses on.

  • April 23, 2009, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Who needs a fucking essay on Star Trek ?

    by NotVeryFunny

    Not me !

  • April 23, 2009, 12:31 p.m. CST

    I respectfully disagree Latauro

    by Dragon Man

    But I think that for much of the 80's and 90's, Paramount didn't try to appeal to Joe Q. HateTrek or the masses in general. Why should they have when they had a core, rabid fanbase that would suck up anything given to them as long as the words "Star Trek" was on it. The reason why Star Trek got run into the ground is because Paramount didn't really care about it other than as a cash cow that they had to give a minimal investment to now and then. They never sunk any real money or effort into the films but the Trek fans (myself included) would ensure a nice payout at the end. They did this with the movies and I think with the various series as well. They all had audiences that carried them, until people got fed up with the warmed-over shit they were being given and stopped giving. Nemesis and Enterprise were directly affected by this. What Paramount is doing here with this movie is a total about-face. This has a serious budget and the promotional work they doing for the movie is more than what they did for the other 10 movies combined. They're really trying hard to get Trek across to the masses, which is great. They realize that Trek needs the same consideration other films get: To make money, you have to spend money.

  • April 23, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Odd Number Movie are Bad...

    by InfernoDragyn

    well...since this is a prequel, and not a continuation, it's more like movie "0" the odd/even rulle still works...kinda...pretty much

  • April 23, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Fact: Nemesis is better, much better, than Insurrection

    by BMacSmith

    Nemesis wasnt that bad. it was basically a clone of Kahn. Insurrection was just a bad episode of the tv show with a bunch of selfish, life hogging hippies who the Interprise foolishly decided to help.

  • April 23, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Watchmen Watchmen Watchmen -!

    by Professor_Monster

    I saw this movie already and it sucks - the effects are amazing, but once you get past that you are looking at a shit story and pretty boy impressions.

  • April 23, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    It's difficult to explain exactly why Nemesis sucks so hard. . .

    by jimmay

    Is it the jarring and un-Treklike use of stark cinematography and a darker, yet uninvolving plot? Is it the creepy attempt at jovial hijinks (the naked wedding) that not only falls flat, but seems forced and jagged contrasting with the film's attempts at a darker tone for the series? Is it the forced, completely unsurprising and genuinely unmoving 'death' of Data? Maybe it was the tired and unmotivated appearance of the cast , who seem unable to shake the realization that they're all beating a long-dead horse, and would rather be guest-starring in low-paying roles than continuing this sad charade. . .It's just not a good movie. 'Insurrection' was mediocre, 'Nemesis was notably poor; and effectively killed the franchise for years to come.

  • April 23, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    INS was the worst

    by timmer33

    NEM wasn't great, but I think it did worse due to the fact that NEM was so damn bad. Unwatchable in fact. You can't watch that over and over like you can with Khan or FC. And with the abomination on TV that was VOYAGER, people just gave up on Trek and never went to NEMESIS. True, it had huge (glaringly huge) flaws, but it wasn't as bad as INS. </b> Peace.

  • April 23, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST


    by timmer33

    ENT didn't help of course. </p> The first three seasons were wasted. B&B didn't have a clear direction or goal in mind when they started. </p> Great idea though, and Bakula ruled.

  • April 23, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST


    by DeafPoet

    The naked wedding thing may be dumb but at least it's not Nemesis' fault. They set that up years earlier on the show.

  • April 23, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    So it's Kirk vs Chopper?

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Chopper: Why would I shoot a bloke BANG, then drive him to the bloody car and wizz him off to the hospital at a hundred miles an hour? It defeats the purpose of having shot him in the first place.

  • April 23, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Enterprise and Voyager pilots were great, then...

    by BMacSmith

    the series sucked. but i remember the pilots to both being very cool.

  • April 23, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    This might be the worst review I've ever read on AICN...

    by Pdorwick

    ...seriously, where do you guys find these jokers? Pompous, self-obsessed and a poor writer. A trifecta of shit. Way to go.

  • April 23, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    False Advertising...grrrrr...

    by MJohnson

    I clicked expecting something good about Star Trek, and instead had to read a bunch of crap before I got to the lame review. Bait and Switch, dammit.

  • April 23, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Voyager is underrated.

    by Ash Talon

    I was one of the those people that hated Voyager right off the bat and never watched much more than the first season. A couple of years ago, I started catching it late at night on Spike. It's actually pretty good at times. <P> Voyager is far more enjoyable than Deep Space Nine. It has some characters that are actually interesting, unlike Next Generation and Deep Space Nine which are full of bland and uncharismatic characters. <p> Paris never lives up to his rebel potential, but they deal with his father issues. Also, he has a terrible reputation in Starfleet for some Academey hijinks. Tuvok is the only Vulcan, other than Spock and Suvak, that actually acts like a Vulcan. Kim is admittedly bland. Torres is full of attitude. It's also nice to see a female engineer. Chakotay was a little flat, but he did have moments where he openly challenged Janeway. Seven of Nine was great. A bombshell but also given a good arc. I think her searching for a role in the ship and trying to reclaim her humanity was far more compelling than Data's endless emotion chip hijinks. The Doctor was also full of attitude. His desire to be more than he was, and his attempts at becoming an emergency Captain were more intersting than Troi suddenly seeking command capabilites. Nelix even becomes interesting, if you can get past his terrible character design and costumes. He has unique skills and an interesting background. Janeway was far more charismatic than Sisko or Archer. She's basically a female Kirk, which I think most fanboys can't come to terms with. <p> The show also had some interesting story elements to it. A Federation crew merging with a terrorist crew could have been explored more than it was, but it's a good setup. The crew gets taken over at one time and left on a planet's surface. They introduced a race that the Borg feared. They had a crew member turn out to be homicidal and not just as a badguy of the week. They explored his urges, and Tuvok tried to suck some of that evil away. This was one of the best Star Trek episodes...period. <P> So Voyager underrated? Certainly. <P> Nemesis sucked. It's laughable bad. There's nothing redeeming about it. <p> Insurrection is just a little bland for a film. It's a decent story, though. And offers up some decent Picard romance opportunities. And deals with the role of the Federation in regards to its relationship with alien cultures.

  • April 23, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Voyager sucked hard, and Enterprise got awesome in season 3

    by filmfreak3000

    Voyager underrated?! seriously?! did you watch it? The only thing Voyager did was keep the Paramount brass from focusing on Deep Space Nine, so they could be more ballsy. Voyager killed my love of Star Trek, that even the brilliant season 4 of Enterprise could revive it completely. As for Nemesis, considering it was written by a Star Trek fan (John Logan) and Data himself, you'd think they'd at least be able to keep continuity in the series. (Photon torpedoes were never used on the Enterprise-E, Quantum torpedoes were all the rage from First Contact on word.) And please? Another Data!? How recycled. Just a way to kill him but not really kill him. really though, anyone who gave up on Enterprise (like I did) before season 3, needs to go back and give it a chance, end of season 2 on ward.... oh, but don't watch the last episode....worst hour of Trek ever.

  • April 23, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Voyager had Jeri Ryan "Seven of Nine"; Australia is overrated.

    by Leafar the Lost

    That is when I started to watch it more regularly. All my geek brothers out there will just have to be honest. She was smoking hot on that show, and the Borg implants in her body just made her more interesting. Enterprise was just bad. The hot Vulcan chick on the show was so dull, even her hot body wasn't enough to make up for it. It was a show that shouldn't have lasted 4 seasons. Oh, Australia is overrated, and I am talking about both the movie and the country.

  • April 23, 2009, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Sadly all the Nex-Gen Trek films...

    by Azlam Orlandu

    ...are expanded episodes and in some cases not as good. It hurts me to say it as much as I love that crew. But then again they'll never match the classic crew.

  • April 23, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    all the trek spinoff series sucked at first

    by BMacSmith

    the first few years of TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise were all pretty bad. But even Enterprise managed to not completely suck towards the end. I hated DS9 at first, until it turned into crazy action, massive space battles every week, DS9. Fighting the Klingons was awesome.

  • April 23, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Enterprise was better than Voyager

    by Toonol

    In my opinion. Voyager was just so bland. Enterprise had more interesting flaws.<p> And that bit about John Carter is odd, because Mars in the books is completely covered in a greenish-reddish-yellowish mossy sward. There's no exposed dirt, no 'desert', anywhere... although the first few minutes of the story involve Carter shootin' injun's in Arizona, so maybe that's what they were scouting for.

  • April 23, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Insurrection & Voyager were SHIT

    by Heckles

    Are you high, Lats? Insurrection was easily the worst Trek movie. Troi and Crusher talk about their tits. Worf gets a pimple. F Murray Abraham stretches his face. It was bad for an episode. <br><br>Don't get me started on Voyager. There was maybe a seasons worth of good episodes. It poached the best of TNG and made if fuckin' weak. How do you fuck up Q or the Borg? <br><br>Wait, since you're 'down under' does that mean everything is opposite? Makes sense. Watch DS9 again, last best Trek.

  • April 23, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    And Nemesis wasn't great, but made Insurrection look like Khan

    by Heckles

    Believe it. I'd rather watch Final Frontier with my balls in a George Foreman Grill than see Insurrection again.

  • April 23, 2009, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Ash Talon

    by BiggusDickus

    Yes! Thanks for writing all that so I didn't have to. Voyager is criminally underrated and I'll take it anyday over the po-faced yawn-a-thon of DS9 and the laughably dated THG (ship's counsellor FFS?!?)<p>It may have had its duff episodes, but when it fired, it fired on all cyliders. Check out 'Blink Of An Eye', 'Distant Origin', 'Future's End', 'Message In A Bottle', 'Tuvix' and 'One Small Step' for starters. Oh, and the finale 'Endgame' was fucking mint!<p>Bite it, haters...

  • April 23, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST


    by BiggusDickus

    I meant TNG, of course...

  • April 23, 2009, 2:51 p.m. CST

    Tuvix? TUVIX!

    by Heckles

    Holy shit, I cannot believe someone actually thinks that episode is not complete and total fuckin' waste. <br><br>The finale was a joke. In the end, Future Janeway breaks the Prime Directive to bring back the ship early. Wow. Should have done that in the first fuckin' episode and saved us all seven years of bullshit.

  • April 23, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST

    Latauro, the oral sex expert

    by EverythingEverywhereStinks

    Do you think he spit or swallowed the load from JJ and Paramount, and do you think he bothered to clean his chin before he wrote his review?

  • April 23, 2009, 2:57 p.m. CST


    by Banzai Rootskibango basically 2 hours and 12 minutes of people looking at things. <P> The first hour is comprised entirely of reaction shots. <P> And people talking. Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk...looking...talking some more...and then looking some more. <P> SOMETHING HAPPENS! But it's over before you know it and they're back to talking and looking. <P> I'm a STAR WARS guy. <P> I hope I like this new Star Trek.

  • April 23, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Heckles - yes, Tuvix!

    by BiggusDickus

    Great study in character and moral dilemma. Do you kill someone who's an amalgamation of two other people for a slim chance of getting those people back? Give it another chance!<p>Oh, and 'hi' to your brother Twitch.

  • April 23, 2009, 3:27 p.m. CST

    "Voyager is far more enjoyable than Deep Space Nine"

    by _Palmer_Eldritch

    You have GOT to be shittin me! DS9 was a tightly written political allegory with some interesting characters that admittedly lost steam in its final season but nevertheless featured the most radical character developments of any Trek. <p>Voyager on the other hand had Captain Angela Merkel and a Borg with family issues. Nuff said.

  • April 23, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Godfather 2!

    by captain_kirk

    And dammit, it WAS a prequel. Also, sorry for posting this in the wrong TB first. Also, fuck you DS9 traitors! DS9 rocked the fuck out of Star Trek: V-Ger

  • April 23, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Aint it Last Week's News

    by lockesbrokenleg


  • April 23, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Nemesis sucked more than insurrection

    by captain_kirk

    Insurrection was sucky CG, derivative, and totally low-bar. But Nemesis should have been the next TNG movie ever, yet it conveniently skipped the Tasha Yar/ Spock story line and the possibility of a Romulan civil war, which would have been a terrific bookend for the series.

  • April 23, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST



    Gene Roddenberry used the term "trekkies" to describe fans of the show, only to be corrected by a fan that stood up and yelled "Trekkers!" Gene Roddenberry allegedly responded with "No, it's 'Trekkies.' I should know — I invented the thing."

  • April 23, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    How can Voyager and Insurrection by underrated?

    by Yamato

    because they were the worst crap to ever have the Star Trek name attached. (Well, perhaps until Dawson's Trek comes out this year)

  • April 23, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Voyager actually recrewed from an alternate verse.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Top that!

  • April 23, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    ST: The Motion Picture

    by captain_kirk

    Hey, don't forget McCoy's beard and cool new transporter effects.

  • April 23, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST


    by Tiberius_Prime

    I have only seen a few ENTERPRISE episodes and I've never seen VOYAGER. What's the general consensus, Which is worse?

  • April 23, 2009, 3:43 p.m. CST

    Voyager Underrated?

    by Admiral Q

    While I might agree that Insurrection is underrated (I've always had a soft spot for that one because it seemed most like a Next Gen TV episode to me) I don't know how you can think Voyager is underrated and dis Enterprise like that. If anything Enterprise is underrated and had finally found its space legs by the time it got to season 4 but the short sighted nitwits at UPN moved it to the Friday night death slot and then cancelled it (not to mention the horrible series finale B&B treated us to - some valentine to the fans that turned out to be). I'll admit I didn't really make it to much of this guy's review of the movie because I'm a little impatient and he spent so much time telling us just how much he hated Nemesis and Enterprise I got bored (it's almost like having to scan down 3/4 of a page to finally get to one of Harry's reviews after you get through all the BS).

  • April 23, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    BiggusDickus- I get the story

    by Heckles

    But the execution was terrible. Just like the premise for Voyager was great, but the excution was shit. Tuvix just made me laugh, so terrible. But if you dig Voyager in the first place it's a moot point. <br><br>And what's a Twitch?

  • April 23, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Deep Space 9 was

    by armando

    fucking awsome! How can anyone say Voyager was btter!? DS9 was the best ST series followed by TNG... Fact..

  • April 23, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Tiberius - Overall, Enterprise wins

    by Heckles

    Voyager was on for 7 years. You might have about 22 solid episodes. Enterprise was on for what, 4 years? Easily two solid seasons. Enterprise wins out. The Mirror Universe ep's were dope. But spidercoz is right, never watch the Enterprise finale.<br><br>And beware of Voyager fighting Q with muskets and a Borg alliance against a CGI insect race. Ugh.

  • April 23, 2009, 4:18 p.m. CST

    Voyager was just boring

    by BMacSmith

    at least Enterprise was just stupid enough to be fun sometimes.

  • April 23, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST


    by captain_kirk

    Don't be dissing on DS9. That being said, V-Ger still kicks Enterprise in the ass. So far up the ass that the Enterprise could tie the shoe laces of the foot up the ass.

  • April 23, 2009, 4:24 p.m. CST


    by BlueHawaiiSurfer

    You are drinking TONS of it if you think Enterprise is better than Voyage...TONS, GALLONS! I agree though that DS9 was better than voyager. OH and yes, this movie looks amazing and will be sooooo much fun to watch on the IMAX screen. Just got my tickets, can't wait!!! FUQ the H8ers!!!!

  • April 23, 2009, 4:24 p.m. CST


    by ominus

    there i said it

  • April 23, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Star Trek TMP

    by ominus

    is the most truthful movie,towards TOS's spirit,vision and philosophy. <p>It is the best TOS movie,period. <p>but i guess it was too philosophical for the average joe who calls himself a trekkie. <p>fucking idiots.

  • April 23, 2009, 4:37 p.m. CST

    For the "plant" people etc

    by cinephobia

    For those saying "plant" (as if Latauro were new to the site or something) and dismissing his view - don't. I saw this at (presumably) the same Melbourne screening as he did and while I didn't like it *quite* as much its pretty damn good and his review is spot on. Don't expect a masterpiece, but all but the most jaded of you can go in with confidence you'll be getting a really solid, fun Trek story. (Incidentally, while I liked Dark Knight and the two latest Bonds, it is nice to see a franchise get reinvented without going self-consciously dark: this is very much in the same tone as the original movies).

  • April 23, 2009, 4:41 p.m. CST

    by cinephobia

    An afterthought to my comment above - I agree that Latauro's views on which movies and TV shows are a bit wacky. But he's right about his review of this.

  • April 23, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    I'm loving this TMP revival-worship

    by YackBacker

    Keep it up, gang. Long live TMP!

  • April 23, 2009, 4:43 p.m. CST

    Ofc the movie is good BUT

    by ominus

    how star trek is it?

  • April 23, 2009, 4:46 p.m. CST

    DS9 ripoffed Babylon 5

    by ominus

    JMS should have sued Paramount for this theft.fucking Berman.

  • April 23, 2009, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Karl Urban as Bones is the big surprise.

    by Sal_Bando

    Really-this guy as McCoy?? Eomer?? REally?? Dang. Gotta see it jest for THAT-

  • April 23, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    by teethgnasher

  • April 23, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Speaking of great shows................

    by teethgnasher

    Legend of the Seeker. No time travel bull shit on that show.

  • April 23, 2009, 5:08 p.m. CST

    People who think TMP is the great are/were on drugs.

    by FuckYouAICN

    That movie sucked hairy ball sacks. Easily one of the worst TOS movies. Not Final Frontier bad but it fucking sucked.

  • April 23, 2009, 5:09 p.m. CST

    TMP wasn't intellectual it was just fucking boring shit.

    by FuckYouAICN

  • April 23, 2009, 5:17 p.m. CST

    no it isnt

    by ominus

    just not your cup of tea.

  • April 23, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Hey, I LIKE boring shit!

    by YackBacker

    But seriously, I completely understand why people think its boring. You either get into it or don't. It's not everyone's cup 'o joe. I happen to love the movie.

  • April 23, 2009, 5:41 p.m. CST

    TMP better than TPM?

    by darthwaz1

    who cares? but the directors cut of the motion picture is 100 times fucking better! I watch it all the time. and I love the trek remastere, how kick-ass are those new effects?

  • April 23, 2009, 5:43 p.m. CST


    by Sgt.Steiner

    Four minutes of Jerry Goldsmith's score are more entertaining than the combined running time of the "Star Wars" prequels. If you are excited about a live-action "Star Wars" series, then it is you who lack a life. But "Khan" is still better.

  • April 23, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Don't really have much of an interest

    by Silverhour

    I liked Voyager, never really got into DS9, loved TNG and didn't watch Enterprise and am too young to care about TOS. I'm pretty sure I've seen all the movies, but with the exception of First Contact they are all pretty forgetable for me. That being said I probably won't go out of my way to see this one in the theatre. It doesn't look bad, I'm just not excited about what I've seen. <br> <br>Oh,and teethgnasher, Legend of the Seeker is barely watchable and such an insult to the source material that I am baffled by your reference to it in a Star Trek talkback.

  • April 23, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    captain_kirk the scene

    by ominus

    when the teleportation is malfunctioned and the 2 crewmembers are killed,is one of the most terrible,gruesome deaths in the film history. <p>now i understand why McCoy hates teleporters.i would have hated them too.

  • April 23, 2009, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Just how much is JJ Abrams paying this site?

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    As all this just can't be bought with a slurp of his balls?

  • April 23, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST


    by the dolphins are in the jacuzzi

    Check Rotten Tomatoes - it's got a 100%. Admittedly, that's from only 8 reviews; but still, some of the heavyweights have already posted, and none of them were from AICN. Face it, we were all wrong: it looks like this movie may pwn. Who woulda thunk?

  • April 23, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    "...writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman, you have all done a

    by Wonder Man

    I never thought I'd ever see these words in print. From ANYBODY, about ANYTHING.

  • April 23, 2009, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Let's try that again:

    by Wonder Man

    "...writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman, you have all done a tremendous job..." I never thought I'd ever see these words in print. From ANYBODY, about ANYTHING. (And we almost never did see them in print. Again. *Ahem*)

  • April 23, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Technically, Temple of Doom was a prequel

    by chickentonight3

    since it took place in 1935 whereas Raiders was in 1936.

  • April 23, 2009, 7:09 p.m. CST

    but not a reboot

    by ominus

    hmm after the fiasko which was indy4,why lucas dont make a prequel/reboot of the franchise. <p>and he should cast as a new indiana,Christian Bale.with a whip,a hat and a batarang.

  • April 23, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST


    by Tiberius_Prime

    BORG! They could have been attracted here by Nero's ship, The Narada which means we get the Borg a lot earlier in the new time-stream!

  • April 23, 2009, 7:27 p.m. CST

    and destroy the Federation in one day

    by ominus

    the only reason that Federation defeated the attacks from the Borgs,was because of Q.because of his actions,the federation learned about the Borgs before they acknowledged their presence in the Alpha Quadrant of the galaxy. <p>so the Federation had time to prepare for the Borgs invasion <p>and also the federation had a 70year old improved technology since the TOS era. <p>so its a bit difficult to have Borgs in a star trek TOS sequel now.its too big of a enemy for the TOS era.

  • April 23, 2009, 7:40 p.m. CST


    by Tiberius_Prime

    Well lucky for us that they have 2 hours of screentime to think up a way to stop em.

  • April 23, 2009, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Easy.They will get whales from the 20th

    by ominus

    century,have spock mind-meld with them,tell them that their species and the whole planet is in danger, ask them how to come in contact with their homeworld for help,finally a dark cylinder shaped spaceship will visit the borgs armada or planets,make their ships useless and then the federation will come and destroy them. <p>simple as that.

  • April 23, 2009, 7:56 p.m. CST

    TOS Vs. Star Trek

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    There's been suggestions in these reviews, that this film will reignite interest in The Original Series of Star Trek. <br> <br> Erm?.. how can it?<br> <br> Thanks to JJ Abrams, 79 episodes of TOS, 10 films and 43 years worth of Star Trek history & storylines have been wiped from exsistence.

  • April 23, 2009, 7:57 p.m. CST


    by ominus

    well said

  • April 23, 2009, 8:30 p.m. CST

    DS9 was Shakespeare compared to...

    by crankyoldguy

    Voyagar and Enterprise. Voy and Ent had some good pes, esp multi-parters (though may fave Ent is the one with Padma Lakshmi...yum). But its third season or so, better than much of TNG (though you can find plenty of stand-outs in it's final years). The DS9 supporting cast alone and Seasons 5 and 6 (Why Terry Farrell couldn't stick it out and went on the awful, no-one-remembers it much now Becker is hard to fathom). It had darkness...and light (the best humor since TOS). Trials and Tribblations...Looking for P'armach in All the Wrong Places...and could go on. This new Trek looks better and better (I have a slight pre-screening just before it opens).

  • April 23, 2009, 8:32 p.m. CST

    Too bad contemp Trek never made the Q...

    by crankyoldguy

    Trelane connection. Again, Peter David, who's written most of the best Trek books.

  • April 23, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    captain_kirk- loved DS9

    by Heckles

    Deep Space Nine was the last best Trek on television. Seasons 4-7 were tits. Dominion War arc kicked all ass. <br><br>The Voyager vs Enterprise argument is solid. I think Enterprise was better overall, but not by much. There was just so much crap on VOY over 7 years, it's hard to think of the great ep's right now.

  • April 23, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Sisko's hero was Kirk....

    by crankyoldguy

    So there ya go.Everytime Voyager did something right, it took two wrong turns. Bagging on the Kirk-Spock-McCoy era in that Tuvok/Capt. Sulu ep, great until then. Janeway gets to be Admiral because she brought her ship home? Please? Worse, the "sudden" Chakotay -Seven 'romance' where the f did that come from. Nonsese. Should've been her and the holo-doc, no?

  • April 23, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Latauro loves the new Star Trek movie

    by AxeEmAll

    Those talkbackers who just read the color blue statements of Latauro and bash him for hating the movie are a bunch of lazy readers.

  • April 23, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Needs a bit of Shatner!!

    by picardsucks

  • April 23, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST

    Simon Pegg is an annoying twat.

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    In life, and on screen. Unfunny also...

  • April 23, 2009, 11:45 p.m. CST

    About the movie... why does Nero want to kill Kirk?

    by Heckles

    Is that established at all?

  • April 23, 2009, 11:54 p.m. CST


    by Toonol

    Terrible episode. Captain Janeway and her crew (except for the doctor) are portrayed as cold-blooded murders.

  • April 24, 2009, 12:14 a.m. CST


    by Toonol

    My understanding is that he DOESN'T particularly want to kill Kirk. He's after Spock, because he blames Spock for some massive disaster in the future, and Kirk's involvement is kind of a side effect.

  • April 24, 2009, 12:40 a.m. CST

    what we REALLY want to know is

    by Maniaq

    wassup wit da BAZURA?? will there be a prequel?

  • April 24, 2009, 1:55 a.m. CST


    by BiggusDickus

    Google image for 'Heckles & Twitch'. Twitch is the skinny one...<p>The rest of you - loud raspberries for all! THBPPPTT! I like Voyager and you're all numpties!

  • April 24, 2009, 3:49 a.m. CST

    So, I have all of The Original Series...

    by Dr.DirtyD

    memorized, and I had a great time watching the new Star Trek. <P> I just saw it in San Francisco, an early press screening. <P> It was the most fun I've had in a movie theater since i was a kid. <P>It was a better movie than any of the Next Gen films. And I would say more care and effort went into this new Trek than most of the first 6, in various ways. <P> The creative folks behind this film didn't just cash their star trek checks and sleep through the film, that's for damn sure.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:33 a.m. CST

    How exactly is Spock responsible?

    by ominus

    he did his best to save the romulan planet.if Nero thinks he is the reason he lost his planet and family,then he is plain stupid and sympathy for his character.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:21 a.m. CST

    Just saw a sneak preview last night

    by technosnob

    I'm an old school trekkie with a religious devotion to the old show and I gotta tell ya the new movie is awesome! I haven't been this entertained by a star trek movie since "Khan".

  • April 24, 2009, 7:11 a.m. CST

    @Ominus + chickentonight3, re: an Indy reboot

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    I said a couple of years ago Chris Pine would make a fantastic young Indy. Spielberg/Lucas really dropped the ball with Indy 4. Watching Pine in Trek, he would have looked great with a fedora, he has that early '80s classic Harrison Ford cockiness perfected. I think he even mentioned in an interview last year he wanted to bring a bit of Harrison Ford to Kirk. Oh well, Indy's loss, Star Trek's gain.

  • April 24, 2009, 7:12 a.m. CST

    PS I sat near Latauro at the Star Trek screening

    by Hardboiled Wonderland

    He's definitely not a plant. He looked green before the film started, but he got his colour back when Star Trek proved to be as good, if not better, than the Wrath Of Khan. And yes, we're watching you, Latauro....

  • April 24, 2009, 7:32 a.m. CST

    To all of us screaming "PLANT !" ...

    by TheCap

    ... well done. Well done, indeed.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:05 a.m. CST

    IMAX Screening

    by tyrell72

    Laturo, did you know that IMAX in Melbourne as a print?

  • April 24, 2009, 8:11 a.m. CST


    by BoyNamedSue

    Voyager was DULL and had bland, uninteresting characters. The series finale was appallingly bad, and involved Janeway going back in time to fulfill her own selfish desires and corrupt the original timeline. I liked Enterprise (notice I didn't say I loved it). I had to wait several years because I was totally burned out on Star Trek at the time. After a badly needed five year break, I started watching Enterprise and thought it was an entertaining show with characters I could relate to......Maybe I liked it better because I waited several years. We were all burned out on Trek around 2001, weren't we?

  • April 24, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST


    by Falcon5768

    He blames the Federation as a whole because the Vulcan High Command didnt help them. Even though Spock tried his best, Nero sees him as just another Vulcan now. Its actually a stark parallel to 9/11 in a way. We have many Muslims who helped us in the various government agencies, even warned us. The minute 9/11 happened most people, even people who worked with these people turned their backs on them regardless of the fact they had nothing to do with the attack and had been working hard to prevent it.

  • April 24, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST

    from a non trek fan....

    by brassai2003

    saw this at an East Coast screener last night. fucking awesome. GREAT movie all around. The script is tight and stands on its own as sci..oop, which I think is more important than keeping with canon (which it does anyway). @ Latauro: what's the Enterprise ref. I didn't pick that up. I did pick up and awesome nod to Motion Picture. hint, keep an eye on Pike's wardrobe in the end.

  • April 24, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Can we all at least agree that....

    by Richard Thornberg

    ...Battlestar Galactica proved that Voyager under-achieved in a huge way. It had a new premise that was unlike other Trek. But somehow it became nothing more than a good excuse for new make-up and previously unseen alien races. It was good but it was safer & more pedestrain than it needed to be.

  • April 24, 2009, 4:57 p.m. CST


    by Dr.DirtyD

    If Spock had listened to Nero, and not wholly relied on the bureaucratic route...then Romulus might have survived. <P> Spock insisted on going through the proper channels and from Nero's perspective, there wasn't time for that, and he was right.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:36 p.m. CST

    scriptgirl_nipples gets it!

    by careyleefisher

    scriptgirl_nipples totally nails why so many fans who love TOS are so upset by this movie! Abrams and Paramount are effectively wiping away 79 episodes of TOS, 10 films and 43 years worth of Star Trek history & storylines. This is all being done to appease an audience that, prior to this upcoming abortion, would certainly never consider watching TOS before Abrams and Co. decided to update it for the MTV generation. We are not haters. We are simply life long fans of TOS who have now been "shown the door" by a hipster doofus who could not make a decent film if his overrated professional career depended on it. The appearance of the original Spock in this film is only to get fans of TOS to attend and get one last bit of revenue from them.

  • April 24, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    by ZodNotGod

    You are a dumbass if you think "Voyager" and "Nemesis" are underrated. "Enterprise" isn't terrible, just pointless and suffers from Berman-itis.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Voyager really blew it.

    by ZodNotGod

    Voyager lost me when the characters would consistently get episodic amnesia. NO matter how awful an experience they were in, next week is all happy shiny people again. That and Mulgrew talked like she had a dildo stuck in her throat and Chakotay was the weakiest, soggiest pussy ever put to film.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    TOS, DS9 & TNG are the only real Treks.

    by ZodNotGod

    Voyager suffered from political correctness and Enterprise, as I said was just pointless and contradictory. Although, it did get some great episodes out about the Vulcans not being so noble and pristine as we once thought which was an interesting touch.

  • April 24, 2009, 6:12 p.m. CST

    Niggas, please!

    by ZodNotGod

    Nothing touches DS9! Not even Battlestar! I'm excited for this movie, but if it wipes away 40 years worth of growth and history just to please the shit-for-brains MTV ADD kids- I'm done with it.

  • April 24, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Simon Pegg just said hes signed for 2 more

    by kimbers

    He was interviewed by johnathon ross, when asked about a sequel pegg said he signed up for a trilogy as its standard practise

  • April 24, 2009, 10:48 p.m. CST

    Star Trek = Biggest film of the year..

    by Gigol-o Joe

    Mark my words!<p>You can engineer a big opening with PR and spin much like Fox are doing with Wolverine. And you can rake it in with early buzz and word of mouth if the film is any good.<p>But to truly have a hit you need both, and that's what we have here.<p>This film has come along at the right time and place. It has pop culture written all over it. Even the built in fan base is guaranteed to a least make its money back.<p>X-men has nowhere near the potential inherent in Trek. Transformers was lucky first time round, but after the big robots hitting each other there's nothing left to see but Bay's bumhole, which is just not that anticipated beyond the moron crowd.<p>Then there's Terminator. If it's any good it will be huge maybe bigger than Trek. The question mark is McG. Do you think he's pulled it off? Whichever way you read into that only time will tell.<p>Not forgetting there's another little addition to the Harry Fucker series to cream the box office, this summer has alot of potential, but you would be stupid not to put your faith in the Trek.

  • April 26, 2009, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Fast V Furious

    by windsurfer811

    The 5th fast and furious is definitely going to be titled "The Fast and the Furious:Underground Railroad" starring Vin Diesel as Harriet Tubman.