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REAPER Reaped?? CHUCK Chucked?? We’re A Month From The Network Upfronts!! To Which Side Of The Bubble Is Your Fave Sliding??

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With the networks readying mid-May announcements of their 2009-2010 schedules, The Hollywood Reporter has a story about what’s dead and what’s not so dead. I was surprised to read, buried deep in the story, that the CW already considers “Reaper” “gone.” How I read the Reporter’s story: LIKELY TO RETURN Ghost Whisperer (CBS) How I Met Your Mother (CBS) Law & Order (NBC) Numb3rs (CBS) Southland (NBC) Ugly Betty (ABC) UNLIKELY TO RETURN Cupid (ABC) Eleventh Hour (CBS) Kath & Kim (NBC) Life (NBC) Reaper (CW) Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox) The Unit (CBS) FIFTY/FIFTY Better Off Ted (ABC) Castle (ABC) Chuck (NBC) Cold Case (CBS) Dollhouse (Fox) Medium (NBC) Privileged (CW) The Unusuals (ABC) Without A Trace (CBS) Though I don’t recall NBC officially canceling “Knight Rider,” “My Own Worst Enemy,” “Crusoe” or “Kings,” none of these abysmally rated hourlongs is mentioned in the story; I assume this means they’re all doomed beyond discussion as NBC’s “Jay Leno Show” era looms closer. Also curious is lack of any mention of ABC's "Scrubs"; the network had been considering bringing it back with a revamped cast, but 2009 ratings for the expensive, established version have not been the greatest. Find all of the Reporter’s story on the matter here.

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  • April 20, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST

    heh, Cupid

    by punto

    it's not "cancelled", they're just postponing season 3 for another 10 years. with different actors. <p> Kings is cool, and it seemed to be a packaged deal for the ~13 episodes or whatever.. I hope it stays on tho.

  • April 20, 2009, 2 a.m. CST


    by dynamicb

    I still can't believe that it is not even 50/50 with all of the fan uproar. Fox really needs to reconsider.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:04 a.m. CST

    TSCC, Reaper, Dollhouse.

    by gotilk

    They must survive. Make the right choices, or a Doll, the devil and Skynet will come for you.<br> <br> Ungh. I had forgotten about the primetime Leno mess. It's kind of messed up, but I really hope he fails. It's not just about him, it's about drama and content for grown-ups in the 10pm hour.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:05 a.m. CST

    If Kings and TSCC are back, I'll be okay.

    by Johnny Smith

    Dollhouse would have to improve to classic Whedon standards in order to make me really passionate. But really, more people should be watching Kings. It's the best show on TV right now not called Supernatural.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:06 a.m. CST

    Chuck is terrible

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Really. Who watches that shit? It's the same damn show every week. Chuck screws up. Some fights. Some jokes. That's it.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:08 a.m. CST

    SMALLVILLE is gonna return, just FYI

    by Mike_D

  • April 20, 2009, 2:15 a.m. CST

    So basically all the best shows are toast

    by photoboy

    TSCC, Reaper, Chuck and Dollhouse are basically my favourite shows at the moment so next season I can see I'm going to have plenty of extra time on my hands. Oh and Castle has grown on me a bit, mainly because Fillion and Katic are very good.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:16 a.m. CST

    Um, yeah, they canned My Own Worst Enemy.

    by Shermdawg

    I quit watching when I heard the news. Shame too, I liked it.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:28 a.m. CST

    It would be a shame if they end Reaper now!

    by DerLanghaarige

  • April 20, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST

    Nielson ratings are out of date..

    by CeejayNightwing

    So when these networks measure up who they think are watching these shows it just doesn't include those who download or watch online for their own convenience. Every year these networks cancel shows that have a huge following and then wonder why the uproar if the viewing figures are so low? Well the figures aren't low, the viewing is simply not being measured correctly and themore they cancell shows without giving them a chance to wrap up their storylines properly, the less likely people will be to get attached to future new shows with any real commitment. That's the catch 22! Advice to any new showrunners: Make all your first seasons a one story deal just in case the very likelyhood that it gets cancelled. At least then you can have something on the shelf worth watching or buying on Home video.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:36 a.m. CST

    I'm shocked that Dollhouse even has a 50/50 shot

    by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl

    But I'm really pulling for it to get a second season. <p> It'd be really too bad if Reaper doesn't make it. Especially considering that Syfy (ugh.) seems to just keep greenlighting a ton of other crap instead of picking up a good series that gets cancelled ala Firefly, Journeyman, and possibly Reaper.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Chuck is better than your mom

    by BewareOfDogPoo

    Your mom's cooking sucks. chuck rules.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:54 a.m. CST

    Damn Shame about Reaper and Chuck

    by Xiphos_2

    Reaper has been good and Chuck is reliable entertainment.<p> I would have thought that since almost everything on NBC sucks, Chuck would have had good ratings.<p> Oh well Jay Leno and Ryan Atwood to the rescue! Well, probably not since it's NBC. Those monkey fuckers can't make a good choice to save thier lives.

  • April 20, 2009, 3:10 a.m. CST

    Cupid 1.0 had 15 episodes... Cupid 2.0 has 7...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    So the funny thing is, one could say that the original Cupid series finally get its remaining episodes to complete a full season of 22 episodes... though with different actors in the leads, and a different locale (NYC for Chicago).

  • April 20, 2009, 3:10 a.m. CST

    I'll be Gutted if Chuck goes.

    by TinSpider

    That's one of the most constantly entertaining shows on TV. It got a bit repetitive early this season, but since the Orion arc came in it's been great. Out of all the episodes so far there has only been a couple of duff ones.

  • April 20, 2009, 3:14 a.m. CST

    Honestly, who is watching shows in the "likely to return" list?

    by Amy Chasing

    Or knows anyone who watches any of those shows? <P> Where are their ratings coming from? Is it because people download the other shows (an indication that they're not only good but popular too) while if there's nothing else on TV you just let Law & Order play? <P> To quote Daffy Duck, "Who's responsible for this?!?"

  • April 20, 2009, 3:24 a.m. CST

    Where's the love for Life?

    by Onyx390

    Life is one of, if not, the best action shows on television right now. It's a damn shame that it's not getting any attention.

  • April 20, 2009, 3:37 a.m. CST

    LIFE is great.

    by champvinyl

    the only cop show i watch other than castle, which may also be cancelled, hooray! <P> also, Amy Chasing the only thing off the "likely to return" list i watch is how i met your mother cuz its fuckin' hilarious. <p> SLAP BET!

  • April 20, 2009, 3:55 a.m. CST

    Sigh, Reaper is gelling so well right now...

    by DanielKurland

    I don't know what it is, but the chemistry of that cast definitely raises this from an average show to a very enjoyable show. And Ray Wise's Lynch comment last week was appreciated. Really would like to see Better Off Ted remain too. What other comedies does ABC have, really?

  • April 20, 2009, 4:16 a.m. CST


    by tie3456

    Glad to see How I Met Your Mother on the "Likely to Return" list this year instead of the 50/50 list where it usually is.

  • April 20, 2009, 4:18 a.m. CST

    CHUCK (best show on TV) finally gets mentioned on AICN

    by Razorback

    And it is to discuss its 50/50 status. Amazing. The one show on TV that actually mixes tons of geek references, with comedy, spy coolness, and hot chicks, gets NO PLAY on this site. I have high hope that it will return. The critics (well, not AICN critics, since they only follow crap like HEROES) love it, and so do NBC and WB.

  • April 20, 2009, 4:18 a.m. CST

    HIMYM deserves to be where it is...

    by DanielKurland

    It really, really does.

  • April 20, 2009, 4:20 a.m. CST

    Chuck will never be amazing TV

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    i.e. Lost and Dexter, but damn its entertaining and it knows it audience. <p> TSCC needs to be a 12-13 epsiode season on cable.

  • April 20, 2009, 4:24 a.m. CST

    Further to my Chuck comments

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    The girl who plays Sarah (Australian and happy about that), is amazingly hot. <p> In recent times always preferred dark hair girls (mostly Asian), but "Sarah" is great eye candy.

  • April 20, 2009, 4:41 a.m. CST

    What about southland?

    by Cotton McKnight

    Boy is that show awful. I mean beyond bad.

  • April 20, 2009, 4:47 a.m. CST

    HIMYM : So what IS the difference between jam and penut butter?

    by V'Shael

  • April 20, 2009, 5:14 a.m. CST

    Yeah, I think it's safe to say Reaper

    by The McPoyle Clan

    has been sucked back to hell in a vessel. When the showrunners and a main character jump ship to other shows, the signs are not good.<br><br>I've enjoyed Chuck from the start, but moving from the mission-of-the-week to the Orion arc has upped the game.

  • April 20, 2009, 5:18 a.m. CST

    the only reason you guys like chuck

    by champvinyl

    is because the main character is a geek working at an electronics store, there are hot chicks who for some reason actually like the nerd, and it has adam baldwin from firefly.. <P> But the writing and production are awful, its the same thing every week... . I can understand why alot of you don't want it to be cancelled but quality TV it isn't. The show about a half step above knight-rider, same style, better characters.... and y'know, not a giant ad campaign for ford.

  • April 20, 2009, 5:40 a.m. CST

    THE UNIT unlikely? Goddammit!

    by TheSeeker7

    That really pisses me off. THE UNIT is *infinitely* better than 24. I like to joke to people (though in my head I'm not really joking) is that THE UNIT is like 24 but for smart people. C'mon, 24 always relies on soap opera-ish, WAY convoluted plot twists, while The Unit exists in MUCH more of a real world. Hell it's based on a book by an actual former black ops soldier, for godssake. And critics can't continue to blame it on the wives' stories always been flat out boring. For one, they're not, but even still, the action and story of the team more than makes up for the women.<br> <br> The Unit bites it while the likes of The Ghost Whisperer continues on. You've seriously gotta be fucking kidding me.

  • April 20, 2009, 5:53 a.m. CST

    suprised that Medium is a 50/50

    by Mr Cairo

    its not flashy its not loud but its generally 45 minutes of quality story

  • April 20, 2009, 5:54 a.m. CST


    by chetedawg

    best show on television. period.

  • April 20, 2009, 5:57 a.m. CST

    Reaper reaped? Dollhouse housed? King kung?

    by newc0253

    If I could save any show on the bubble right now, Dollhouse would be it.<p> Much further down the list, I'd probably save Chuck too but I'd much prefer to save T:SCC, Reaper and Kings, all of which seem to be as good as gone.<p> Also Medium? I'm suprised to see this on the bubble. Most of the shows I like tend to have a fairly narrow demographic but Medium is one of the few that I'd think would appeal to lots of folk. It beats me why a show as well written as Medium is struggling when they're renewing Ghost Wisperer for frak's sake.<p>

  • April 20, 2009, 5:57 a.m. CST

    oh, and Better Off Ted

    by chetedawg

    Is fucking awesome.

  • April 20, 2009, 6:09 a.m. CST

    better off ted is really damn funny.

    by champvinyl

    I especially like the satire-heavy fake ad's they play before the actual commercials. <p> The two lab guys are hilarious as well, the episode with the motion sensors that don't detect black people was fuckin' classic.

  • April 20, 2009, 6:43 a.m. CST

    The Unit gets canned

    by rocknroll_pirate

    And all most of you can complain about is CHUCK!

  • April 20, 2009, 6:52 a.m. CST

    Scrubs had its time.

    by Bouncy X

    as much as i love the show, 8 seasons is long enough. plus based on what i read ABC picked it up to give them a proper final season so i was already prepared for this to be the end. but pulling a ER thing by changing casts is stupid, you dont completely change a cast after 8years and expect it to be good. it had a good run and while i seem to be a minority, i've liked the whole series so just make this the end and have an actual proper finale.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:02 a.m. CST

    Save Reaper! Save Better Off Ted! Save BSG!

    by chrth

  • April 20, 2009, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Amy Chasing: We watch Numb3rs in my household

    by chrth

    While it's not the best show on TV, it by far has the most talented cast on TV.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:09 a.m. CST

    HIMYM: you can't peanut butter

    by themikejonas

    your dick up someone's ass. Anyway, HIMYM Season 5 is pretty much assured--CBS just ordered the first five scripts and 20th Century Fox is motivated to give the show at least 100 episodes, since the show is already the subject of a bidding war for syndication rights.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:11 a.m. CST

    Stupid Network Execs

    by Admiral Q

    I don't know how they can even fairly register the ratings for The Unit this season. 90% of the time it got the whole CBS Sunday night schedule got pushed back by at least a half hour (usually more than that) by football or basketball. I had my DVR set to record it every week but unless I was watching (which meant I usually had to watch the last half of Cold Case) I wouldn't get to see it. I didn't even get to see The Unit last week because I was out of town and when I got back all that was on my DVR was (guess what) Cold Case. Big surprise that The Sarah Conner Chronicles had lower ratings, especially after they take it off for a month or more and then bring it back in the Friday night time slot of death without any real promotion of the fact. I'll be ticked of TSCC gets cancelled and they keep Dollhouse (I'm sorry but I stopped watching Dollhouse several weeks before the finale - sorry Joss). And just for the record - Chuck is awesome. a real gem of a show. If you can't see it then I feel real pity for you.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:19 a.m. CST

    I'm really, really hoping ABC Family saves Reaper

    by chrth

    It's one heck of a longshot, but still hoping.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:22 a.m. CST

    Fuck, I really love Kings!!!

    by Judge Briggs

    Kings and Conner... I hate you tv show execs... so. much.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:30 a.m. CST


    by SkidMarkedUndies

    God that show is awesome! Just pair down the cast to two regular team leaders (Haysbert and Brown) and have a rotation of red shirts to go with them on missions. Each one off would explore the guest team members story a-la Lost flashback and TA-DA! Fresh show!

  • April 20, 2009, 7:31 a.m. CST

    TSCC Season 2 DVD sales are already nuts.

    by NinjaRap

    I mean, just this past weekend Amazon has put season 2 up for a "pre-pre-order." It's not even a real pre-order - there's no release date yet. And yet the orders on Amazon shot it up to #8 in DVD sales over the weekend (it's since fallen to #18 on top DVD sales - still pretty damned nuts for something that isn't even really announced).

  • April 20, 2009, 7:32 a.m. CST

    Does Fox distribute the Unit?

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    Because if it does, I can't think of a better lead in to 24 than the former David Palmer's cracker!

  • April 20, 2009, 7:35 a.m. CST


    by Halloween68

    This is one of the few things Kevin Smith is involved with I actually like. Though I did like ZACK & MIRA MAKE A PORNO.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:46 a.m. CST


    by Canuck815

    Agreed that it's finally nice seeing it on the Likely list. At universities up here this show has achieved a big cult status in the last three or four months alone.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:51 a.m. CST

    The Unit and Numb3rs are good as well...

    by champvinyl

    theres a severe gap between good tv and bad tv now... its at the point that ratings don't even matter its really obvious what's shit and what isn't. i can't understand how there are three different law and order shows, and three different versions of CSI on TV at the same time, it's beyond retarded... (what, one show with people solving crimes forensically wasn't enough? you need it set in different american cities so you "Identify" with it!?!?? DURRRR OKAY!). <P> Basically half of the people influential in programming on the major networks need to have pink slips rammed down their throats because they wouldn't know good TV from a midget humping their ears and teabagging their eyes..

  • April 20, 2009, 7:52 a.m. CST

    and seriously theres a huge disparity there..

    by champvinyl

    how could they not notice... <P> Fuckin perv's.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST

    WTF! Life done Castle stays? Bizarro world.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Life is one of the best shows on tv. Castle was just plain sad after the first episode. <p> The viewing public are morons.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:58 a.m. CST

    Save Summer Glau!!!!!!!

    by The Outlander

    As long as I get to watch Summer Glau tackle another twisted and disturbing role I'll be happy. More Dollhouse will also make me happy.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Really Disappointed With Kings

    by Crow3711

    Such an awesomely good show, very unique, not perfect, but worth checking out, and NBC, immortal fuckups that they are, ruined everything having to do with the show from marketing, to premiere date, to scheduled time. This show could have been really popular if they had given it Southlands slot. But nooo, gotta have a new COP SHOW. Christ. NBC is so retarded, they waste an incredible amount of money, and they didnt even give it more than 5 episodes to find an audience. Fucking bullshit. I really like Kings.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:19 a.m. CST

    What little I've seen of Numbers I didn't like...

    by Amy Chasing

    but I'm hardly an informed critic on that count so don't mind me. Personally I would have thought the cast of Dexter to be the most talented on TV. Or even Californication or Psych. But it's a tough call. <P> However let me set the record straight for those shows I do know about: <P> Chuck - I feel they know exactly what they're making with this show. They don't try and be something they're not, and what they do they do well. You could say House does the same thing every week. Or Burn Notice. Or Hustle. They are all still highly entertaining and worth your time if you like that sort of thing. <P> Castle & Better Off Ted - We hardly knew ya and hope we get to know ya more. Fillion is great to watch in Castle, and the whole cast of Better Off Ted are helping me forget the cancellation of another show with a similar vibe to it: Pushing Daisies. <P> Reaper - Soc(k) rocks! He, like Marmaduke from Carpoolers, could have a show all of his own. But I'd still like to find out if Sam ever gets out of his contract with the Devil. Please give us that much. <P> Which brings me to Terminator. The show is cool. That last episode was very cool. A third season could have the potential to be extremely cool and wonderful cross-promotion opportunities with the movie. Other shows have been in far worse situations so it begs the question: why stop now?

  • April 20, 2009, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Chuck is fun. Remember fun?

    by Billyeveryteen

    Sure, it's turn off your brain TV, but I find it very relaxing, after the crushing weight of BSG, Lost, or TCSS.<p>Plus Sara is cute as a button.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    CASTLE is a GREAT show!! Why is it even in danger???

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    <br><BR>I love Castle - a great match for Fillion. And the elderly women who dominate the Nielsens love procedural crime shows, so I would think this is a shoo-in for renewal!! <br><br>

  • April 20, 2009, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Chuck and Terminator need to come back...

    by tile_mcgillus

    Are they really doing that bad?

  • April 20, 2009, 8:34 a.m. CST

    "Likely to Return" shows I care about:1 ... In Danger: 5

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    what. the. fuck.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Nathan Fillion is the reason why!

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    Nathan Filli,...... CANCELLED!

  • April 20, 2009, 8:34 a.m. CST

    "Likely to Return" shows I care about:1 ... "In Danger": 5

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    what. the. fuck.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:36 a.m. CST

    At Least Cancel ONE of the CSIs and Law and Orders

    by DarfurOnTheRocks


  • April 20, 2009, 8:36 a.m. CST

    Cancel Capricka

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

  • April 20, 2009, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Chuck/Better Off Ted/TSCC should remain

    by happybunni

    I like Reaper, it's good entertainment once in awhile but wouldn't miss it. Chuck is an amazing show, Better Off Ted is full of big laughs, and TCSS is awesome.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Chuck is Cool..... Why is this even on the chopping block?!

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

  • April 20, 2009, 8:38 a.m. CST

    Cancel Karen Sisco

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    Do it.... Do it now!

  • April 20, 2009, 8:40 a.m. CST


    by dead youngling

    Must have my Fillion fill!

  • April 20, 2009, 8:45 a.m. CST

    KINGS Certainly Cancelled

    by ThusSpakeSpymunk

    The studio spent so much time and effort advertising KINGS, and actually expressed shock that it didn't do well. Um, look at what it was ABOUT. Of COURSE, it didn't do well. It did so poorly, in fact, that they didn't even bother showing more than, what was it, one or two episodes before canning it?

  • April 20, 2009, 8:50 a.m. CST

    really cool to see some love for THE UNIT

    by TheSeeker7

    It seems like in general I don't see much chatter around online by people who are into it as much as I am. But in a way I'm sorta prepared for this, I mean if memory serves it's been "on the bubble" for at least the last 2 years.<br> <br> But also good point on the 3 L&O's and 3 CSI's. Gimme a fucking break. Hell did anyone catch that awesome fucking joke a couple weeks ago on "House" poking fun at David Caruso? One of the greatest lines of the fucking series. "You deduce that while removing your sunglasses to the strains of a Who song?"

  • April 20, 2009, 8:52 a.m. CST

    THE UNIT deserves better

    by Mullah Omar

    Somebody is really thinking of canceling a show run by David Mamet and Shawn Ryan? Who gets a free pass if not those guys? <br> <br> That show beats the hell out of most of its TV peers. I thought the women's stories were kind of weak for half of the first season but ever since then they meshed well and it doesn't suck the air out of the room whenever they cut back to suburbia. <br> <br> If THE UNIT packs it in without a compelling conclusion, I will be saddened. I like that show, and Ryan knows how to wrap things up well. Give the guy AT LEAST another season to close this out with a bang.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:53 a.m. CST

    Chuck and Castle need to stay

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    I'd watch the Unusuals too if that sticks around.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:55 a.m. CST

    Chuck 50/50?

    by HoboCode

    Really. I assumed the ratings were good. That's a shame. I hope it gets renewed. I enjoy it in spite of myself. Castle blows ass and needs to die. Can we get something decent for Fllion PLEASE?!

  • April 20, 2009, 8:56 a.m. CST

    Save REAPER, TSCC and BETTER OFF TED! Everything else...Go ahea

    by SpyGuy

    Is there any way we can add FRINGE's Anna Torv to the "Unlikely to Return" list? I have bellybutton lint with more pizzazz than that chick.

  • April 20, 2009, 9 a.m. CST

    They flip a coin!

    by Tekzel

    I am convinced the boneheads at networks flip a freaking coin to decide which shows to keep and which to end. Most of my favorite shows are in the 50/50 slot and unlikely to return. I wonder about the guy that called Southland awful though, I couldn't disagree more. It grabbed me totally on the pilot which is super rare. I loved it at the end of the first episode. Reaper, DAMN those bastards to hell if they end it now. That show is one of the best and entertaining on television, in my opinion.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Chuck is great...

    by Philvis

    Chuck is one of my favorite shows. My wife and I watch it every week along with Medium. I hope both return for sure. Chuck is just a fun show that doesn't take itself too seriously and the acting is pretty good. Medium is also a show that entertains. Some weeks are off, but that is with any show. Bring them both back dammit!

  • April 20, 2009, 9:03 a.m. CST

    by Squashua

  • April 20, 2009, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Nielsen ratings' time has passed. They mean nothing now.

    by NinjaRap

    I hope the networks will focus harder on how to make money from DVR numbers, online episode streams (, Hulu, etc), DVD sales, etc.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Make an Assessment

    by fain88

    LIKELY TO RETURN:<br> Ghost Whisperer<br> Southland<br> Ugly Betty<br> <br> UNLIKELY TO RETURN:<br> Life<br> Reaper<br> T:tSCC<br> <br> 50/50:<br> Better Off Ted<br> Castle<br> Chuck<br> Dollhouse<br> <br> Alrighty then. *SHOOTS SELF IN THE FACE*<br> <br> Seriously. Ghost Whisperer and Ugly Betty. Seriously.<br> <br> Glad HIMYM is getting some love, though; I've been watching it since first season. I will have to say, recently it's become a little bit hit & miss.<br> <br> And good, Dollhouse is a 50/50 so they can jerk Joss around a little longer, maybe give him a half-season to build up and then get shit canned. FOX, you are the devil.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:06 a.m. CST


    by terquick

    We need to see more Eliza Dushku. We need to see a Josh Whedon created show. We need to see more Eliza Dushku.Did i mention that already?

  • April 20, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    There's only two L&O shows on network TV now

    by chrth

    Why is everyone saying 3?

  • April 20, 2009, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Amy Chasing, two words, Old People

    by indyjonez100

    Old people are watching this show, who in turn drive the ratings. Never mind I tivoed Reaper and can watch it at my convenience. I just hope they don't cancel Reaper because I just got my wife to start watching. One of the funnier shows on TV right now, which is saying much for the state of TV. SAVE REAPER!

  • April 20, 2009, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Just let Dollhouse die now rather than in six months

    by happybunni

    Really, anything Whedon creates is doomed to fail. It is a sad fact of reality. Dollhouse is not going to get three seasons, that's for sure. I rather they just kill the show now than expand it and pump out low budget crappy eps before killing it.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Silver Lining

    by candafilm

    The good news is Kath & Kim is getting canned. It's just a horrible show.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    If Dollhouse was half as good as any of Joss' other shows, I'd c

    by NinjaRap

    But it's not, so I don't. Plus it's inherently difficult to like any of the characters. Everyone who works for the Dollhouse and has a personality is complicit in horrific memory erasures (especially the ones that go up to "The Attic") and repeated whoring out of brainwashed people. All the dolls have zero personalities, and even the one personality we know anything about from before they were dolls - Echo/Caroline - was a complete assclown. Even Agent Ballard is sexually obsessed with one of the sex-slaves being held by the Dollhouse, and let's not even get started on Adelle, who literally forces people to sign their lives away by locking them in a room without letting them leave. Fuck all these shitheads, and fuck Joss Whedon too. He's better off writing comic books.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Let "Chuck" and "Reaper" go but by all means keep "Lost" and "He

    by Pdorwick


  • April 20, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Also keep in mind

    by The McPoyle Clan

    If you like a bubble show on NBC, they'll have five fewer hours to program each week, since they're handing them over Leno. ZZZZzzzz...

  • April 20, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    CHUCK better return.

    by HorrorFan81

    Or there will be Hell to pay. Don't care about any of the other shows.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Wait, which Law and Order is getting renewed?

    by I_am_the_ultimate_product

    Aren't there like 6 of them? Or is that CSI? I'm confused...

  • April 20, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Yvonne Strahovski, I'm here for you

    by YackBacker

    Come by and I'll rub your shoulders with the finest oils in all of creation. Then I will break you off nasty all night long. (h/t Smoove B.)

  • April 20, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Unlikely to return?

    by furzee

    11th Hour: I liked it but can see why it couldn't find an audience Chuck: Really?? Chuck is a great show. Consistently likable and the girl who plays Sarah is fucking smoking hot. If you don't like Zachary Levi jusr watch with the sound down. She's beautiful. TSCC: Got way better towards the end of the season. Better than anything I've seen on a Friday in a long time. What is gonna do better on Fox on a Friday night? C'mon, renew it already. You can't do better Fox and you know it! Life: Quirky and awesome. Damien Lewis MADE this show great, for anyone who actually tuned in. If it's cancelled I hope he does something else genre related. How about a REAL Asimov Robots novel with Lewis as Elijah Bailey? The Unit: Consistently well acted. Jonas was bad ass. Got a little out there when the whole families went undercover but it was still a fun show that wasnt afraid to kill people, including major characters Well that's my two cents. Chuck and Life will be sorely missed

  • April 20, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    I work for Nielsen's Technology Center in Oldsmar

    by ErecT

    Thats were all the ratings information originates from. While I'm not a top level executive, I do have a pretty high position that gives me access to those in charge and I get to sit in quite a few meetings. Trust me when I tell you Nielsen succeeds IN SPITE of ITSELF. To say the equipment and information gathering methods are outdated is an understatement. Add that to the fact that some of the new regime are vindictive and morally bankrupt and what you get are numbers that don't reflect the general viewing public. I'll give you an example. There's a very senior level individual named Mitchell Habib @ the company who isn't well though of amongst the employees. Not too long ago Lou Dobbs ran a segment that was critical of Nielsen for off-shoring tech jobs. In a closed door meeting, Mr. Habib layed out a plan to pull and not renew Nielsen set-top boxes from Dobb's viewers to effectively cost him roughly 6 million dollars in advertising. I don't know about you, but that sounds like number manipulation to me. DOn't even get me started on the DAILY fixes we have to do because the programs that calculate the numbers either crashes or pulls in information in correctly...but until another company steps-up, that's what the networks are going to rely on.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Chuck is so entertaining and funny.

    by eric haislar

    It's the one show that has never really disappointed me. It's not the best show ever. But i can't wait to watch every week.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    by FollowMal

    Chuck and Castle are must sees for me. So I'm glad they're at least 50/50. Life is my favorite show on tv right now. If it doesn't return, I'm not watching Leno. I'd not be anyway, but I'll sure write and protest. Life is beautifully written and adcted, twisty interesting tv and it's a shame to lose it to Leno's needed hour. Bah Leno! NBC, you'll regret the change in the future.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Noooo, not Reaper!

    by VictorNewman

    Damn you Fox! I guess you need to make room for "Who Wants To Fuck My Grandfather?" or "The Amazing World of Octo-Mom"

  • April 20, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST


    by eric haislar

    Reaper on CW dude. So damn them. I am with you.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:52 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Um - what? Herc's been critical of Heroes for ages. Only reason it gets a TB is because hundreds of 'fuck Heroes' people pop up out of nowhere. I'm pretty sure most of them only post in that TB.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST


    by genesis495

    The reason I think that HIMYM has become hit and miss a little is because of the two pregnancies that are going on during this season and we won't have Lily back till the season finale it seems like. However, next season should be Legen...wait for it...hope your not lactose intolerant because the next part is..dary.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    I loved Reaper last season.....

    by OBSD

    This season? Not so much. I finding myself caring less and less if all the main characters can maintain relationships and more and more frusturated that the basic storyline of "Sam and the deal with the devil" has been spinning its wheels this entire season. Yeah, yeah,we get it. Sam's really not the son of the devil, and when Sam's dad reveals this, he'll break his deal with the devil and finally die. They made that clear with a throwaway line a few episodes ago. And so until that happens (at the season finale), we have to deal with Andi not trusting Sam (again), Morgan the douchebag, and Sock and Ben's romantic trials and tribulations. Plus, it isn't as funny as it used to be. This season is lacking some serious forward momentum and although I want it to get better, I know that few shows can pull a Lost season 3 turnaround, so I'm not really all that upset if it gets cancelled.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST


    by VictorNewman

    I knew that. I'm just so used to directing anger towards Fox.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST


    by silentbobafett2

  • April 20, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Clearly Hercules is to blame for King's cancellation.

    by Leafar the Lost

    If Hercules had provided a Kings Talkback for the show, then it would have been renewed for a 2nd season. Clearly, Hercules is to blame, and I think he should send Ian McShame a letter of apology. He should also apologize to me personally, and then to all of the fans on AICN.

  • April 20, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Reaper is funny

    by liljuniorbrown

    It's just really funny. Some of the CGI is bad but over all it's hysterical. When the devil congradulated Sam by playing "You're the best around" from the Karate Kid on a car stereo while dancing around I about shit my pants laughing.Maybe i'm just easily amused.

  • April 20, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Chuck > The Big Bang Theory

    by bontster

    That is all.

  • April 20, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    But, hey, TIM AND ERIC is a shoo-in

    by thegreatwhatzit

    Proof that the bottom of the food chain (i.e. unbridled shit) is afforded survival/longevity.

  • April 20, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    Chuck & Dollhouse 50/50 ?!

    by lsleelee

    What the what? I thought both were goners for sure. Thank God Chuck still has a chance and "meh" that Dollhouse still has a chance.

  • April 20, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Cancel everything...

    by mrfan

    and start fresh. Too much crap on television anymore. No wonder I surf the net so much. Porn sites love me.

  • April 20, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Life was the best cop show in years.....

    by archer1949

    Of course, it was so good that I am surprised that it last as long as it did. Fuck the networks! Fuck them up their asses!

  • April 20, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    I hope Chuck returns...

    by STLost

    Chuck is my 2nd favorite show (behind Lost.) These are the only shows I look forward to on a weekly basis. Yes, Chuck most of the time has the "spy mission of the week" format, but they also maintain great continuity with smaller arcs dealing with the spy stuff, the Buy More, and Chuck's family. <p>The last few episodes dealing with Orion and now Chuck and Sarah on the run, has shown that the show has upped its game without compromising the comedy aspect. <p> How can you not love a show that has a tech dude, playing Missle Command to the tune of "Tom Sawyer", get the abort codes to stop a satellite from launching missiles.

  • April 20, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST

    The Unit

    by jd77

    Even my wife, who usually can't stand military movies/TV shows likes The Unit. It will be a shame to see it go. I at least hope they give it proper closure.

  • April 20, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    i heard chuck has been steadily ticking up this year

    by Timahh

    i think it gets at least half a season more.

  • April 20, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    Southland is good.

    by HoboCode

    It's 10 times better than I expected it to be. It's got Thomas C howell in it! How could you not like it?!

  • April 20, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST


    by Timahh

    there is a better chance of them moving southland to a different day, then bumping one of their comedey shows off of "must see thursday."

  • April 20, 2009, 11:04 a.m. CST

    We’re NOT a Month From ALL The Network Upfronts!

    by Hes

    While ABC, CBS, and FOX stick to their usual mid-may dates for their fall schedule presentations, NBC's event is only a fortnight away (scheduled for may 5th).

  • April 20, 2009, 11:09 a.m. CST

    re: Southland

    by c4andmore

    I love a good cop show and this is turning into a good one. The first two episodes were good enough for me to keep watching this week. I think it may be even better than The Wire.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:10 a.m. CST

    A Few Things

    by Rob0729

    First, HIMYM is better than 50/50. The numbers are solid and they do better in the key demos (18-34) than Big Bang Theory which has already gotten a multiyear renewal.<br><br> Also Chuck is great. It can be formulaic at times, but formulaic doesn't always mean that it is bad. Overall the writing, acting, and action are solid. Their numbers aren't much worse than Heroes which has all but been renewed and it costs less.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Show some love for Better Off Ted

    by jcrewrower2

    Funniest show since Arrested Development's departure. ABC has a history of dropping these spring shows (Knights of Prosperity) but my fingers are crossed.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:20 a.m. CST

    Chuck is much better this year, Reaper is slightly weaker

    by newc0253

    but, to be honest, the show started out pretty weak and, even at its best (c.f. the last several episodes) has never really been as good as it ought to be.<p> when i first heard the concept and heard Josh Schwartz was involved, i thought: Seth Cohen from meets Alias, should be a sure-fire hit. but in its first season, the show was disappointingly broad, lazy and deeply repetitive. And for a show that has as many clever references as it did, it sure did next to nothing with them.<p> Reaper, by contrast, started out in its first season with the same basic concept as Chuck but Reaper was the more inventive show, more willing to take risks and extend its ideas. I never understood all the folk falling all over themselves to praise season 1 Chuck when Reaper was that much funnier.<p> Season 2 Chuck has been much stronger, a lot better written and with greater forward momentum. But it's still never quite the show it could be. Season 2 Reaper, on the other hand, has kind of plateaued: still funny, but weaker on the overall story.<p> I enjoy both shows: it's a shame that Reaper may be going out on a low and Chuck on a high, but an even bigger shame that both are going at all. But i guess that, even if both are cancelled, we can look forward to next seasons' iteration of Guy Who Works In A Giant Retail Outlet Has Special Powers And Leads Secret Double Life.<p>

  • April 20, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    CHUCK & REAPER are played out.

    by Fletcher_Hanks

    I like them both, but it's pretty clear that the writers are out of ideas.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg's stupid comment about Chuck

    by JacksParasites

    "Who watches that shit?" Apparently not you as the rest of your comment illustrates: "It's the same damn show every week. Chuck screws up. Some fights. Some jokes. That's it." A. Chuck rarely screws up these days and actually usually saves everyone's asses. B. "Some fights. Some jokes. That's it." could describe almost any show on TV. That's a pretty lazy description of a show. Why not just say some comedy, some drama, some action. That's it so that you can have officially described every show on TV.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    RE: Fletcher_Hanks: I disagree

    by SimianJones

    I disagree. I think that both shows are actually running better, getting better scripts, and better performances from their respective casts.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:32 a.m. CST

    Life is awesome

    by Jodet

    Very original and a great lead actor, Damian Lewis. NBC could fuck up a one car funeral.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    They could put Southland on at 10pm Sunday

    by jim

    It would be too bad it Life is not around next year. Most entertaining cop show on tv.<p>Hopefully Chuck will be back too. It's a fun show (loved the Godfather 2 reference last week) that isn't afraid of racking up a body count (again, last week - how many, 10, 12?).

  • April 20, 2009, 11:39 a.m. CST

    All the hate against CHUCK is played out

    by Mr Incredible

    This show has been fairly decent during its run. Heroes, on the other hand, has been lame, meandering crap. And worst, it instantly gets a fourth season. My Own Worst Enemy didn't get a chance to wrap it up; if NBC cancels CHUCK, at least let it have a series finale.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Better Off Ted: might need a second season.

    by Fawst

    That show has many faults, but one thing it's not lacking for is balls. The Office does cringe-humor insanely well, but I don't think they have done something anywhere close to as outrageous as having a water fountain labeled "For Blacks." I heard last week's episode was a winner, too. I'll be watching that one back-to-back with this week's. I will give a show four episodes to pull me in. Better Off Ted paid off big time with the 4th episode. I hope they hit a stride and stick with it, because I do enjoy it.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST

    If Chuck and Better off Ted are canceled...

    by yomomma

    The networks will have canceled or ruined every show on TV that I watch. Heroes went lame, Pushing Daisies is gone, CSI almost totally recast, Middelman is gone. I'll be left with Fringe, the Office and the Simpsons: I will have gone from 2 or so hours every day to 2 hours of watchable tv per week. LAME. At least Burn Notice comes back in a few months.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:45 a.m. CST

    How to save your favorite show

    by InActionMan

    Put CSI in front of the title: <P> CSI:The Sarah Connor Chronicles - Sarah, Cameron and John team up with forensic experts to fight terminators and hunt down Skynet. <P> CSI: Caprica - William Adama teams up with Caprican forensic experts to track down Cylons. <P> CSI:Chuck - Chuck goes to work in a forensic lab run by hot chicks. <P> Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    Scrubs should get one more

    by donkey_lasher

    It's actually returned to some Damn Good form this season (barring the last two parter holiday episode) and the new characters are fitting in well.<p>

  • April 20, 2009, 11:54 a.m. CST


    by artaxerxes

    Renew. That is all.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Concerning The Unusuals, Cupid, and Scrubs...

    by Freakemovie

    The Unusuals -- as a big Lost fan, it's the only post-Lost show I've ever bothered watching. And it's pretty good! Feels much more alive than all the rigidly formula-ized CSI clones. I enjoyed the second episode even more than the first. Wish the ratings were better.<br /><br /> Cupid -- this show already failed once. Fairly recently. Who had the bright idea that 10+ million viewers would turn in THIS time?<br /><br /> Scrubs -- Fan of the show, not such a fan of Bill Lawrence's constant bitching about how NBC was mean to it and didn't let it succeed. So even though I like it, it's strangely satisfying that the ratings on ABC -- who according to Lawrence advertised it a lot better than NBC -- are even lower than they were on NBC.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Surprised things look bleak for LIFE

    by RenoNevada2000

    I know its Neilsons haven't been great, but has been doing strong DVR and Hulu numbers from what I hear...

  • April 20, 2009, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Where is Scrubs on the current schedule?

    by gruntybear

    If Scrubs is having ratings issues, it might be because it hasn't been at the same time slot consistently for its current run. I don't think the DVR has picked up a Scrubs episode in literally months.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    That Cupid remake really had legs, huh?

    by fiester

    Like the whole world didn't see that cancellation coming.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Its so sad, but everything thats worth watching is going....

    by TheHichhiker

    Life is by far the best show on TV. The Unit was awesome too... though they've been making it worse and worse this year, I guess in order to get ratings, which is unfortunate. Terminator went from "whatever" last year to a most excellent show this year. It'll suck if they do not resolve things just as they got interesting..... Cupid turned out to be better than expected. The new leads have no chemistry and the lost, sheepish, and invariably wrong Cannavale's Trevor Pierce, who is clearly a mental patient, has much less appeal than the forceful and "always right, even when completely wrong" Piven's Trevor Hale, who just might actually be Cupid after all... But once you let go of the original (which was excellent), this is not a bad show. Chuck and Reaper are ok, but I can't say I care enough to be upset they are gone... I think we got everything we were going to get out of those two, everything else is just more of same... I hope "Ted" gets picked up - its a well done show, and Dollhouse... well, I have mixed feeling about this show. In the end it suffers from same problem "Studio 60" suffered - its trying to take seriously something that just does not warrant it. For gods sake, its a high tech escort service. I know it will probably grow into a decent show, but it can go only so far, and I'd rather see Joss do something a bit more interesting.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Reaper canned and Smallville keeps on going and going

    by DrPain

    Reaper is awesome. I still kinda dig Smallville but it's beyond redemption.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    reaper is the only reason i tune into the CW

    by palewook

    i can delete that PoS channel affiliate from my channel list when the CW cancels reaper.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    The Summer Glau Show, next fall only on Fox.

    by DrPain

    Just have her dance around for an hour.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    DVR Numbers

    by killertv

    People, wishing DVR/streaming numbers to be equal to television viewing numbers doesn't make it true. The number of people who watch television on TV (millions) is a lot more than those who watch television on the internet (thousands). Believe me, if the networks thought they could make money from a failing show, they would. Unfortunately, they can't. At least not yet. Honestly, though, Nielsen should figure out a more accurate way to measure viewers. Every cable box in the country could be equipped to report what channel is being watched when, which would be a huge increase of data. But I don't think that's going to happen any time soon. Kind of like the profitability of poorly performing shows on the net. @Gruntybear - Scrubs has been on Wednesdays @ 8pm for a few weeks now... but it's on ABC, not NBC.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Reaper just gets better...

    by Heckles

    Don't know why it hasn't found an audience yet. One of the best things on CW. Actually, it's the only thing I watch on CW. Will not check another new show on that shit network if Reaper is axed.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    DrPain --- THAT'S A GREAT IDEA!!!!

    by wackybantha

    The Summer Glau Show would be the best show ever!!! Sign me up!!! Dancing around for an hour? Hmmm, Could work.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    I was skeptical of "The 11th Hour" after seeing the UK...

    by Mindtrip

    ...version, but it worked. I watched it on Thursday nights instead of just letting it fill up my DVR. Life is another show that was really working as well. Finally, Chuck... I record this and watch it on Tuesday afternoon after getting in from work. It's a preposterous concept, but thoroughly enjoyable and fun to watch. TTSCC HAS to come back. It's one fo the best shows on. Hell, I watch Dollhouse because of the lead-in - although to be fair, Dollhouse is starting to find it's footing as we get deeper into it, so I would watch it anyway. Finally, Reaper... t's like all of the above shows (maybe a bit of exception with Dollhouse): it has chemistry amongst it's cast members that allow you to buy into the premise of the show easier.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    TSCC & Chuck

    by potter4eva

    As a female, I happen to totally love Chuck! The geekiness, the humor, the love story - I absolutely LOVE the show! I'd be so upset if they canceled it! But the show that I would be MOST angry about if they cancel is The Sarah Connor Chronicles. We bought Season 1 DVD set this weekend and watched the entire thing, then went and started over on Season 2 on the DVR. This show rocks! And should NOT be canceled! And if Fox (POS network!) cancels it than I won't go back to them (it's the only show I watch on their network) and I'll pray that someone else takes it and I'll be a lifelong member of their network. This show has excellent story lines, writing, and acting!! PLEASE DON'T CANCEL THESE SHOWS!!!

  • April 20, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    How I feel....

    by cookepuss

    UNLIKELY TO RETURN<p> ------------------<p> - Cupid: Not surprised. Won't be missed. No Piven. Nor Marshall. No dice. The new cupid looks like an unlikeable goon. Wasn't a fan of his "acting" on Will & Grace. Not a fan here.<p> <p> - Kath & Kim: Deserves to die. Selma Blair may be a piece of hot beanpole ass, but no ass is worth sitting through that shit.<p> <p> - Reaper: I actually WOULD miss this show. The supporting cast has been so great this season. Sock & his step sister. Ben & his demon lover. Morgan. Funny stuff.<p> <p> - Terminator: I've got mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, this is currently the best sci-fi action show that network TV has seen in years. On the other hand, the S2 ending acted nicely enough as a series ender. Just like the S2 finale to Dark Angel some years back. Not meant to be a series ender, but works well as one anyway. Its something I think I can live with, even if I'd miss the Glau. The show had a strong run.<p> <p> FIFTY/FIFTY<p> -----------<p> - Better Off Ted: Best new comedy in years. Unfortunately quirky doesn't play well with studio execs, especially ones from conservative networks like ABC.<p> <p> - Castle: Fillion is kinda a jinx. Isn't he? I mean, just about every show he's on gets canceled or is on its way out. Drive. Buffy. Firefly. Two Guys, a Girl & a Pizza Place. His name might as well be Johnny AIDS where viewers are concerned. <p> <p> - Chuck: An... interesting... show, but I could never get into it. I never found the cast or stories engaging enough to watch for more than one or two odd episodes.<p> <p> - Dollhouse: THIS is 50/50?!?! I like the show. Don't get me wrong. However, its as slow as molasses and the ratings are actually WORSE than TSCC. If Terminator gets canceled then this show's only chance is if FOX tosses Whedon a pity season to make up for Firefly.<p> <p> - Medium: This season one of the best so far. Not as good as the Angelic Huston eps last season, but still enjoyable TV. Unfortunately, as good as the show still is, the story twists and are becoming ever more predictable. If there's a special guest star.... He's the bad guy. If you have half a brain enough to watch the opening dreams then the rest of the episode is easy enough to predict.<p> - The Unusuals: Ooohh!!! A quicky cop show!!! Wheeeh!!! C'MON. People don't want a quirky copy show. NYPD Blue didn't succeed because of oddball characters. It lasted for so long because of very human, very likable characters and a less idealize, more real world take on the genre. The Unusuals will fall victim to the Cop Rock syndrome. The gag will wear thin quickly and the show will have to rely on... *shock*... quality storytelling. Not gonna happen. Plus, Amber Tamblyn is only believable as the naughty cop in my fantasies.<p> <p> LIKELY TO RETURN<p> ---------------- - Ghost Whisperer: Another season of the chunky ass, big tits show? Why?<p> <p> - How I Met Your Mother: I lost interest in this show at the beginning of S2. The show's premise has been one giant tease and no amount of NPH coolness can make me watch it again.<p> <p> - Law & Order: Mixed feelings on this. Great concept. Interesting stories. Some really awesome eps. Hate the constant cast changes throughout the entire franchise.<p> <p> - Southland: Not a big fan. Maybe because the promos already had me sick of it before the premiere.<p> <p> - Ugly Betty: America is actually pretty cute off-screen, but this is such a chick show that I couldn't care less. I'd sooner watch repeats of Smallville's worst eps than some whiny fashionista wannabe.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    I've probably watched all of 5 minutes total of American Dad

    by skimn

    but last night had a line I had to laugh at, considering all this:<p>Alien: I once headed a campaign to keep Ghost Whisperer on the air><p>Mom: Thats still on the air.<p>Alien: It issss ??

  • April 20, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Life is a great show

    by The Funketeer

    The writer's strike hurt it I think and that pregnancy this season didn't help either. Hopefully, if it doesn't come back, they'll get a chance to wrap it up.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Scrubs was up against the behemoth that is

    by skimn

    American Idol, where on NBC it was up against CSI. The networks treat it like filler, why should low ratings be a suprise?

  • April 20, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    For those that didn't know: Kings is on Saturday...

    by Mindtrip

    ...nights now. I missed this past weeks ep but have dl'd it. It's a good and very unorthodox series. I've got to find out if the world they created is based on events in this world they haven't gotten aroudn to showing yet or just an alternate universe.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Writer's Strike hurt

    by cookepuss

    EVERY show. So many storylines were forcibly cut short. So many shows lost momentum and just never recovered. <p> <p> I've become so disillusioned with TV. 95% of what's on is total shit. The other 5% is "on the bubble" stuff that will so be canceled and replaced with more mindless reality TV shows and phoned in procedurals.<p> <p> What pisses me off most is FOX in general. I remember when they first opened shop. The TV shows were edgy & took risks. FOX was the renegade network that represented everything that wasn't the establishment. Now, they've become "the man" and are afraid to roll the dice on shows that no other network would. That's kinda sad. It's like watching a former hippie run for his 3rd term in congress.<p> <p> With this economy, the only renewed show is the "safe bet" one. Cheap to produce. Junk food to the masses. Mad Libs writing.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    rsanta74: HIMYM

    by TheHichhiker

    Forget about the stupid gimmic of HIMYM. It is by far the least interesting part of the show - and if they got rid of the Bob and the kids, no one would miss them (they are pretty much gone these days) Just treat it as a next generation of "Friends"-like sitcom - a damn funny one at that. It was one of the best sitcoms, until Big Bang beat it up and took its lunch money... (ironic isn't it...)<p><p><p> "- Southland: Not a big fan. Maybe because the promos already had me sick of it before the premiere."<p><p> Totally dead on. Could not bring myself to watch it after seeing the commercials... Seemed like a castrated Shield meets ER... who'd want to watch THAT???

  • April 20, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    Hmm, I guess it's looking better for FRINGE

    by bravogolfhotel

    No mention of it being on the bubble at all despite the lack of an early renewal.

  • April 20, 2009, 12:57 p.m. CST

    I promise to stop watching tv

    by loki965

    I'll do everyone a favor and stop watching TV because if I like it, it gets cancelled. Dead Like Me - cancelled, Deadwood - cancelled, Carnivale - cancelled, Reaper, TSCC, Chuck, ditto, ditto, ditto. I'll stop watching Dexter before it's too late.

  • April 20, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    Let Scrubs end gracefully

    by cookepuss

    This season looks to be wrapping up in a fairly sensible manner. I'm happy with JD ending up with Elliot. Cox as chief is long over due. I'm ecstatic that Ted grew a spine, even if he's still a wimp. Janitor's growth has been fun too. Kelso as the Norm Peterson of Sacred Heart has been a hoot. <p> <p> As much as I like the interns, the familar faces ARE the show. Without them, it wouldn't be Scrubs.

  • April 20, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    The McPoyle Clan please give more info about Reaper.

    by Mindtrip

    Who has jumped ship?

  • April 20, 2009, 1:01 p.m. CST

    rsanta74 re: T:SCC beating DH in ratings

    by buffywrestling

    Since when??

  • April 20, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Scrubs couldn't succeed?

    by fain88

    Isn't this, like, the 9th season? And we're saying T:tSCC was lucky to get a season and a 1/2? *shakes head* The world today, I tells ya.

  • April 20, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    chuck sucks

    by Chutch

    so fuck chuck. some of you people calling it the best show on tv now need to wake the fuck up and start watching last season's "eastbound & down" because you sound like fucking retards.

  • April 20, 2009, 1:08 p.m. CST

    We shouldn't be surprised anymore.

    by frozen01

    If you like a show, it'll get cancelled. Bottom line. <p>Dollhouse ain't bad, though, guys. But, just like any other Joss Whedon show, it takes a while to build up. The potential is there, we just need to get through a few things before the zazz hits. Is that any different from Buffy, for example? <p>And be nice to Castle. I'll be the first to admit that I only started to watch it because of Fillion, and it can be too formulaic, but the crimes are creative and the characters are awesome. If I can't have Pushing Daisies, I'll take Castle, thank you! <p>I share everyone else's amazement that Ghost Whisperer is still on the air. That is the most God-awful boring crap I have ever seen! Those stupid reality TV ghost shows are more interesting than this drivel. And Reaper might get canned? How!?! That show is gleefully idiotic, in a way that entertains us while keeping the drooling masses happy too (yay Sock!) or so you would think. WTF?

  • April 20, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST


    by thesinofthesky

    These motherfuckers are gutting, absolutely gutting my stable of shows. The Unit? That wasn't expected. Sarah Connor Chronicles, okay, we all kind of saw that coming, even though the end of this season was phenomenal. I always enjoyed Reaper and Chuck when I got around to watching them. I'm left with Supernatural (hands down the best show on TV- fuck you, haters) and Fringe. Time to make way for more shitty reality shows....*sigh*

  • April 20, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    JD77, your wife likes "The Unit", because she wants to fuck...

    by Leafar the Lost of the actors on the show. Trust me, I am not trying to be an asshole, I am just telling you the truth. Women do not watch shows like "The Unit" for the military style action and realistic storylines. My wife's current favorite show is "Ghost Hunters" on the Syphilis Channel, so maybe she has a thing for that bald, plumber dude.

  • April 20, 2009, 1:15 p.m. CST

    Down to Lost, Fringe, Dexter, the Office, EB&D, and South Park

    by Domi'sInnerChild

    The cancellations are quickly weening me off television. 40% of the shows I watch are gone this year. Maybe they can merge Eastbound & Down and Fringe. Kenny Powers investigating the paranomal instead of the blonde chick? I smell gold there.

  • April 20, 2009, 1:16 p.m. CST


    by Cinemanimetal

    Reaper creators Michele Fazekas and Tara Butters signed a contract with 20th Century Fox TV which means they won't be able to work on reaper even if it does return. Also Tyler Labine is going to be the lead in a show called Sons of Tuscan for FOX so he won't be able to do Reaper either.

  • April 20, 2009, 1:22 p.m. CST

    @buffywrestling RE: Ratings

    by cookepuss

    AFAIK, on average, I think that TSCC has had about 3.0m-3.6m viewers per ep while Dollhouse has had about 2.9m. <p> <p> The most recent April 10 eps, actually saw a reversal of that trend. TSCC stayed on point with its predictable 3.65m. Dollhouse saw a surge to 4.13m.<p> <p> Not the best ratings for either show, but certainly on par with the recently renewed Friday Night Lights and double what shows like Everybody Hates Chris or America's Next Top Model gets.<p> <p> The real problem is that TSCC is too expensive for network TV. 3.65m would be forgivable if the show were cheaper. Apparently, there are not enough reusable physical & VFX related assets. Plus, the gamble of selling fewer commercials has turned into a gamble that has backfired. I'd gladly watch more commercials if it meant that the show would still be on, but that's just me.

  • April 20, 2009, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Love Reaper, will no longer watch the CW

    by JuanSanchez

  • April 20, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST


    by cookepuss

    April 10th saw both TSCC & Dollhouse tie with 3.65m viewers.<p> <p> Dollhouse actually dropped from 4.13m to 3.65m from March 21 to April 10 while TSCC remained the same @ 3.65m.

  • April 20, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Cinemanimetal: That's not true! That's impossible!

    by chrth


  • April 20, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Give up the contact emails!

    by Keblar

    Ok, so who's done the Google legwork, or has the industry skinny? Who do we contact to put in our, "If you cancels this you're an idiot," emails?

  • April 20, 2009, 1:42 p.m. CST

    Won't matter, Keblar

    by cookepuss

    They'll likely treat that stuff like spam. Online petitions are worthless. Physical snail mail is always better. Voting with your dollar is the best way to voice your opinions. If the show already has seasons on DVD, buying them en masse will probably show your support for the show than some e-campaign.

  • April 20, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Jay Leno is killing TV

    by pollaxt

    Life is an amazing show with just about the greatest soundtrack ever.

  • April 20, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST


    by Dollar Bird

    The only I show I care about on that list is "Life." Lewis' character is fun and I love how he interacts with his partners and the world. I know they've aired the season finale, which was written to also be a series finale, just in case. It was satisfying, but I hate to see a character I like go away for frickin' Jay Leno's variety hour.

  • April 20, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    Don't cancel The Unit

    by viranth

    Only show I really look forward to these days, 24 is shit, dollhouse is boring, Battlestar Galactica is gone, Heroes is too tedious...

  • April 20, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST

    According to my signature, I watch

    by chrth

    8 shows ... with the strong possibility of at least 2 going bye bye. Thank goodness Burn Notice is rocking.

  • April 20, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Tyler Labine

    by Qwonk

    Not that it matters since Reaper will almost definitely be cancelled, but I did hear that Labine has some sort of contract that says Reaper gets first dibs on him over the other show. Same with Brian Austin Green and TSCC. Gah, doesn't Chuck get almost as high ratings as Heroes? Seems like I was thinking Heroes is in the high 6 mil range each week, and Chuck is in the low 6 mil. Plus I bet it's a lot cheaper to make.

  • April 20, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST


    by Qwonk

    Dammit. <p> Forgot the paragraph break. <p> Thank God my three favorite shows are coming back. Sucks that my next five or six are on the danger list.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:06 p.m. CST


    by darkpassenger

    shame about kings and t:scc , the john henry storyline was pretty interesting, i really i like the actor who plays him better off ted was funny too... anyone know if testees is canceled?

  • April 20, 2009, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Keep Chuck lose Heroes......

    by j2talk

  • April 20, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    If Leno doesn't do well at 10pm...

    by Kirsan

    then NBC has to find 5 hours of programming to replace it plus all the hours they are replacing in the rest of the schedule. Maybe they should keep a little something in their back pocket just in case.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Life is the only

    by OfficerJunior

    crime a week show I watch. It's too good of a show for NBC.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:21 p.m. CST

    I find the Office Tedious and played out

    by Stormwatcher

    When do you stop laughing and start feeling uncomfortable? I mean how many times can the Boss be clueless and stupid and the staff petty? 30 Rock stays great somehow though, managing to negotiate the comical and absurd without causing you to roll your eyes. Yeah, Parks and Recreation is just about as bad too. Really sick of them.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST

    NBC's back pocket

    by chrth

    I can guarantee is repeat airings of the USA Network shows until they get new shows lined up.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    The Office is boring

    by lockesbrokenleg

    I've watched a few times, but it's just unfunny guys talking to the camera.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Reaper needs to put Missy Peregrym in a bikini

    by IndyCollector

    That's ratings gold there.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    This is why I don't like to wach shows in their first season

    by drewlicious

    I find myself getting interested in a story that may never get completed. I wait for the second season and then watch the first on dvd beforehand. That's probably how I'm going to see "Fringe" because I've been hearing nothing but good things and I'm putting it on netflix if it comes back for season 2.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Harrision Ford looks like Karl Malden!!!!!

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    That Premium Format figure is awwwful.

  • April 20, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Chuck needs more Scott Bakula.

    by NoodlesHahn

    Actually, everything needs more Scott Bakula.

  • April 20, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    indycollecter - have to agree about missy in a bikini

    by palewook <P> also have to wonder how many years from now until she ends up in playboy.

  • April 20, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    All of my favorites, naturally.

    by My Pretty Pony

    I don't understand why The CW is so eager to get rid of "Reaper". Doesn't it regularly get better ratings than their precious "Gossip Girl" & "90210"? It really sucks that "Life" will probably be canceled. It's a terrific show. I don't even know why "Medium" & "Cold Case" are in any danger. They're both solid shows. CC has been on for a while and it seems to get high ratings every Sunday night. For some reason, I'm not surprised that "Dollhouse" has a better chance of renewal than "Terminator", though I really wish it were the other way around. I like "Dollhouse", but "Terminator" is so much better and deserves the renewal. It seems kinda crazy to cancel the show now, with the movie coming out and that fantastic finale. The only saving grace is that "Friday Night Lights" has already been renewed. It seems that TV viewing will be pretty dismal next season.

  • April 20, 2009, 3:13 p.m. CST

    They killed Terminator!

    by johnnyangelheart

    The bastards!

  • April 20, 2009, 3:23 p.m. CST

    will one of you please make a new system?

    by La.Cucaracha

    Someone, somewhere out there has the ability to make a new ratings system. Please start. <p> The networks want to make money and unless everyone on this board is ready to buy a new car or another really expensive product that will pour money into your show, they wont buy ads. The suits look at numbers, the number are from Nielsen. Overthrow Nielsen.

  • April 20, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST


    by Toonol

    Are the three on the list that I hope come back. If they go, that's 60% of my weekly television gone... 75%, if I finally give up on Heroes.<p> My television may be devoted to Fringe for one hour, then 40 hours of DVDs and videogames.

  • April 20, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Why would you overthrow Nielsen? The numbers are right

    by chrth

    Any college level statistics course would teach you that they're something like 95% accurate (and no, your favorite show is not in the 5%). Don't fall into the common fallacy that if X people agree with you that you know of, then 10^X people actually agree with you in the real world.<p> As for DVRs and Hulu, etc., the execs and advertisers simply don't trust those numbers -- not because they're inaccurate, but because there's a lot lower of a guarantee the commercials are actually being watched. Live viewing will always take precedence, and Nielsen's numbers for live viewing are probably as accurate as you're going to get without Big Brother (the concept, not the tv show)

  • April 20, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Reading the comments I guess I'm alone..

    by MJDeViant

    I want Kath and Kim to stay. I love Shannon and Higgins. I also think it's just different enough to fit in the schedule. Parks and Recreation should move to another day because it is VERY similar to the Office. I like it, because I have liked Amy Poehler since UCB was on comedy central. They should go an hour long with Parks and Rec on another day. I hate how all the drams and stupid CSIs get an hour, lets have some more comedies do that.

  • April 20, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    the reaper, the unit are getting canceled while the ghostwhisper

    by crazybubba

    lives on???? there's no accounting for taste! Who are these people?

  • April 20, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    MJD, people may hate Kath and Kim

    by skimn

    But I agree that Higgins can do no wrong. Even his commercials for Direct TV are a blast.

  • April 20, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Don't fall into the common fallacy

    by La.Cucaracha

    The Chrth isn't a douchebag.

  • April 20, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Costs is going to kill more shows the next couple seasons

    by chrth

    than straight ratings. Unit and Without a Trace are doing good ratings slot-wise, they just cost too much to justify their current position on the schedule. They could be saved by jettisoning some core cast, but would the show suffer as a result? It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.<p> It'd also be interesting if a network actually cared about Saturday again.

  • April 20, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST


    by buffywrestling

    I checked out tvbythemumbers[dot]com and although T:SCC seemed to trend in higher viewers total in the last 3 episodes only, I don't ever see it beating Dollhouse in the important 18-49 demo. (I know where to search for breakdowns of Dollhouse numbers since the pilot but trying to find the numbers for S2 of T:SCC is making me nutzo.)

  • April 20, 2009, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Of course, the one thing they should be doing is

    by chrth

    keeping the shows that *do* skew old. 18-35 is going through their first major recession after living their entire lives spending like there was no tomorrow. 55+ actually have money. I knew who'd I target.

  • April 20, 2009, 4:08 p.m. CST

    buffywrestling: try

    by chrth

    There's a forum there with the nightly ratings

  • April 20, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Come on guys,

    by Projbalance

  • April 20, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST

    by Projbalance

    It's all about money, don't you know this by now? Any show that costs a few bucks to produce but isn't an instant smash hit is going to get the ax; every time. They will undoubtedly be replaced by shows that cos half as much to produce. The quality of the shows doesn't matter. If they can't make them cheap, they don't get made.

  • April 20, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST


    by ErecT

    Nielsen employee again have to understand, it's not the statistical model that's outdated, it's the input that needs to be questioned. Nielsen is more interested with raw numbers as opposed to the quality and diversity of their input models. Also, their method of data collection still relies on hand written mail in diaries in over 40% of the survey households.

  • April 20, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    Kings is the best show on TV

    by polyh3dron

    NBC is ridiculous for giving up its timeslot to YET ANOTHER FUCKING COP SHOW. I am through with you NBC.

  • April 20, 2009, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Terminator ratings > Dollhouse ratings, BUT!

    by NinjaRap

    ...Terminator costs Fox more to air. They have to license it from Warner Bros, whereas Dollhouse is an in-house Fox-based production. So it's cheaper. And ultimately, "cheaper" is the real reason it's likely to return over Terminator.

  • April 20, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Terminator terminated!

    by oisin5199

    Can't believe that wasn't in the headline. The last two episodes were good, but it was too little, too late for what has mostly been a yawn fest this season. I said before that Dollhouse would probably get renewed and Terminator canceled. Really, there's nowhere to go for this show, but more dreary and miserable.

  • April 20, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Real Shame about Kings really

    by Tommy999

    Because it's a damn good show and you know there's a good couple years of good show in the premise too, but why give an expensive show like that a chance when you can have that Hack Leno on 5 times a week for cheap. Honestly If I were a writer or producer these days I'd take all my good ideas straight to cable

  • April 20, 2009, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Don't cancel Kings!!!!!!

    by Super Rabbi

    You corporate fuckwits!

  • April 20, 2009, 5:43 p.m. CST


    by Frank Black

    has to resort to Leno 5 nights a week because they can't handle a quality show like Life. The networks should take a clue from the cable networks and have some balls, Dexter, Sopranos, Weeds, Eastbound & Down... Once Lost is off the air, I will likely NEVER watch another network show again because they never give them a chance to find their audience.

  • April 20, 2009, 5:43 p.m. CST

    NBC needs to go those liberal FUCKS!!!!

    by bosskmr

    WTF!!!! Don't cancel Reaper!!!!

  • April 20, 2009, 5:45 p.m. CST

    R.I.P Reaper, we hardly knew ye

    by VikingQuestFan42

    Gee I wonder why Reaper got cancelled! Maybe because at the end of last season the IDIOTS at CW moved Reaper opposite LOST and lost viewers. So what do they do this season?? Put it opposite American Idol, fucking genius guys! Let's find all shows with potential and just fucking bury them in horrendous time slots! Two tears mother fucker, two tears!

  • April 20, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST


    by SnapT

    And it's one of the best shows on TV! Please don't cancel REAPER! And if you have to, please give it a good ending, or a series of TV movies or something! C'mon, it's a great show. I love all the characters, especially Sock and Ben and The Devil.

  • April 20, 2009, 5:52 p.m. CST

    nbc has got limited GOOD programing

    by j2talk

    monday Chuck is watchable Heroes is past it prime and at 10? Tuesdays they on air? wednesday Life is worthwhile if unnoticed, thursday has their "comedy", Friday dateline-wow, now there is a winner, sat/sun ??? and with all that "quality" you are telling me they CAN"T find a way to Keep Chuck and Life for another season? Hell moving Leno to 10pm as a cost cutting move might be a good idea but they still got 10 hrs of prime during the week and another 6 on the weekend with out a lot of programing that is attracting viewers

  • April 20, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Damn, Life better be given a stay

    by aversiontherapy2

    It was always good but at the end it just got brilliant.

  • April 20, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Reaper and Medium must survive!

    by Raymar

  • April 20, 2009, 5:59 p.m. CST

    ErecT: I understand what you're saying

    by chrth

    But again, the alternative to me seems to be Big Brother, an alternative I'm not particularly fond of. Of course, part of my 'pro-nielsen' rhetoric is counter to the argument that the math can't be right, thus my emphasis that the statistics is solid.

  • April 20, 2009, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Worst case scenario...

    by Johnny Smith

    ...I lose, let's see...Castle (not that big of a loss), Southland (has potential), Dollhouse (Whedon's weakest so far, but also has potential), Terminator (what I wouldn't do for a third season), Kings (a tremendous loss if it goes; fantastic so far), and the definite ending of both BSG and Prison Break (time to go for both, although it remains to be seen if PB will end as well as BSG), I'm down about half my viewing. Hopefully Caprica and the return of True Blood and Eureka will help fill the emptiness inside of me.

  • April 20, 2009, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Shower Coffee!!!

    by jaws8u

    A reaper man knows how to treat the ladies... Did anyone else catch the preview for last weeks episode? HILARIOUS!!! The episode itself was pretty funny.

  • April 20, 2009, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Advertisers run what stays on the air

    by TheKitchenNinja

    Advertisers control what shows stay and go. We can complain all we want about studio execs (and there IS plenty to complain about) and Nielsen's ratings relevancy but the facts are these: Advertisers want eyes for their ads. Unless and until there is a different system that THEY trust to tell them where those eyes are looking (especially in the target demographics the advertisers are aiming for) they will rely on the Nielsen's ratings. Viewers are not the consumer, they are the product the networks are selling. Their consumers (where they get their money) are the advertisers. Nielsen's is having a hard time accounting for DVRs and other viewing methods partially because those methods allow the very thing the advertisers least want: the ability to skip commercials. If we want this changed, as far as network TV, we have to find a way to change how advertisers think - no easy task. But it also means you have to find ways of getting the advertisers what they want: their product promotions to your eyes. If they can't get that, they're not interested paying. The other option is to find a new way to fund programming. There are options out there, but it seems they all turn to advertising in some form or another in the end due to getting more money.

  • April 20, 2009, 6:48 p.m. CST

    If NBC cancels Chuck and LIFE

    by Turd Furgeson

    What else do they have? Everything else on that Network sucks. I don't even watch their new shows anymore because I'm afraid they'll get cancelled after I like them. Self fulfilling prophecy I know but NBC is so horrible now I have no alternative... LIFE is a really damn good show... Man NBC sucks.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:08 p.m. CST

    NBC should rethink possibly cancelling CHUCK...

    by Murraypalooza

    Seriously. The show has a proven fanbase and has been truly hitting it's stride during this second season (where it could've done such a thing during the 2nd half of Season 1 which the Writers Strike cancelled) because the writers and the actors and everyone on the show is finally letting loose and having fun.<br /><br /> Oh yeah, and it has been GAINING fans as of late. How many other shows on TV have been going up? NBC has a winner on their hands if they find a timeslot where you aren't facing off against fucking 24 and Dancing With the Stars.<br /><br /> The show is nerd fun and action for the guys (and StraHOTski) and it has the romance and Zach Levi for the ladies. I'm honestly baffled as to why AICN doesn't cover CHUCK the way they cover HEROES because each show is practically 100% nerd driven in one facet or the other. The fact that CHUCK invades talkbacks for LOST and HEROES and 24 should speak volumes to Harry and whoever runs this thing. Give Chuck a talkback once, JUST ONCE, and see how many people talk about it.<br /><br /> least give the show Season 3. You'll know by halfway if the show is going to succeed any further, and then you can tell the writers to wrap it up. It would be a pity to see all the fun and the recent storylines with Bakula all go to waste.<br /><br /> If you cancel it, at least let some other station pick that show up. GOOOOODD DAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU<br /><br /> :)

  • April 20, 2009, 7:10 p.m. CST

    One of the problems with Kings...

    by Mindtrip by not stating WHY there are kings and if this is an alternate Earth or something else. Now, I like it and was quite pissed off to find that I missed an episode, but I can't help but find myself distracted wondering what set up the premise. Is this America? Are the continents the same? Is it even Earth? Maybe these aren't necessary to know, but I know a couple of people who stopped watching after the first ep because they didn't understand the reason behind there being a king. But... this series has great promise and there are a lot of questions I have that I hope the show lasts long enough to answer.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST


    by The Bicycle Sharer

    I couldn't agree more about Life. Mind you, first season was WAY better, but second season was still good.<p>Seems to me that they had no idea where to go in the second season with the conspiracy, but it still beat the shit out of most everything on tv.<p>I'll sincerely miss Life and T:TSCC. Kinda miss Chuck and Reaper. Maybe Dollhouse. But at least I've still Lost for, what, one more season?<p>Fuck, I hate Fox.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:11 p.m. CST

    damn it!

    by Nizzuts

    3 of the 4 shows I watch are unlikely to return? That sucks ass. At least I'll have Lost for a couple months a year. I can't believe they are going to keep southland, but ditch Life. I think Life is one of the better cop shows on. Oh well...what the fuck do I know. I think I'm most pissed about Reaper. I think that is one of the hidden gems on TV. I'll really miss it if it goes.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST

    And how the FUCK

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Is Terminator canceled, but Dollhouse continues?!?!?! I say that as a LONG time Whedon fan. Dollhouse, as someone noted, is by far the least engaging of any Whedon show to date (and I include fucking Roseanne in that). I watch every week in hopes of improvement and end every Friday with "meh."

  • April 20, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST

    "Medium" will be back

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    It will, of course, be called "Extra Large" (see Arquette's girth).<p>I kid. I kid.<p>Although the chick that the show is based on <i><b>is</i></b>kinda hot. Not big, though.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Speaking of Reaper

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    Did anybody catch Ray Wise as the Devil commenting on that country-ass town a couple of eps ago? He said that it was like "a David Lynch movie." I fucking laughed my ass off as I always pretend that the Devil on Reaper has chosen to appear as Leland Palmer.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Bicycle Sharer: Yeah, that was great

    by chrth

    I think I had tears in my eyes

  • April 20, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST

    AICN not covering Chuck

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Baffled on this one too, can only assume that Herc only covers shows he loves or has a connection with the writer/producer/director etc. <p> There is obviously some people whose shows will be covered based on past glory, i.e. Whedon. <p> I have no doubt that if Whedon produced a show that showed a blank white screen for 40 minutes each week, Herc would promote...I mean comment on it.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:45 p.m. CST

    What do GM and NBC have in common?

    by maximillian41

    They both can manage to shoot themselves in the head and foot at the same time. I wonder how long it will be before we end up bailing out the networks with taxpayer money because they are too stupid to produce quality products that people actually want? If they do stumble on a quality product, the execs shitcan it as fast as possible and give themselves a raise. It's interesting how the BBC can produce higher quality shows with a fraction of the budget and, horror of horrors, they actually support quality programs without Neilson Ratings telling them what to think. Maybe BBC execs actually watch televsion.

  • April 20, 2009, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Further - re Lost

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    I get the feeling that if it wasn't for TB rage, there wouldn't be a Lost TB anymore either. <p> It appears that Herc doesn't get any advanced screening and as many have commented the TB for Lost is now going up much later than previous seasons. <p>

  • April 20, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    by theoldgunslinger

    Do any of you actually know how nielsen gets their numbers? Do you know what percentage of people have the special nielsen box. Do you know how one is selected to be a ratings representative. Do you know the percentage of people who just leave their tv on all the time to one channel. Of course you dont.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Chuck should be saved

    by veritasses

    It's a great mix of charm, action, comedy, romance, nerd and various other genre spoofing, silliness, charm and well... heartwarming charm. Likable characters, predictable but entertaining stories, all-round solid, quality work from the entire cast and crew and no real weaknesses. It's actually a pretty remarkable achievement. It deserves a better night and lineup.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Chuck was awesome tonight

    by calibandonflamingo

    It could've been the series finale.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    LOL - Herc promoting Whedon show

    by The Bicycle Sharer

    "Guys, Joss Whedon's 'White Screen' is possibly the greatest hour of television ever produced in the history of the medium. In fact, 'White Screen' may well be the greatest piece of fiction in the history of the English language. Joss has completely captured the unique banality of our insipid existence."<p>I kid. I kid. I love Angel (and Buffy and Firefly), but I definitely feel the pain of those who feel that many damned fine hours of tv are neglected while even Joss Whedon's most malodorous flatulence is endlessly parsed and praised.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Joss Whedon's 'White Screen'

    by maximillian41

    I love his shows but overall does anyone else get the feeling that we're moving toward that scene in "Idiocracy" where 500 years in the future the current blockbuster movie is called "Ass". The entire movie, "Ass", is just that, a movie of a guys ass that occasionally farts.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST


    by johnnyangelheart

    A couple of weeks ago on Kings, when David's brother was committing treason, they showed a map of the kingdom and surrounding countries. Didn't look like any part of Earth that I know of. Pure fantasy.

  • April 20, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST


    by chetedawg

    oh....unless you hate awesome action, nerd jokes, hot bitches and story arcs that fucking deliver. SAVE THIS SHOW

  • April 20, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Bibcyle Sharer - Great Herc

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • April 20, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    oh and....

    by chetedawg

    Herc, get you're shit together. WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT HEROES? Im going to sit on this site, and if canceled, ill be on this talkback every site. Blaming you. Caling you Bret Ratner. Untaseful. Every day. VIVA LA CHUCK.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    CHUCK was awesome tonight

    by HorrorFan81

    And next week's finale looks to be pretty fucking sweet as well.

  • Don't make your main character a pussy. Jesus, the best episodes are the ones where Chuck (or Ned)sacked up and did something. Sadly it seems like 2 out of every three episodes involve the protagonist doing his best Paul Lynde impersonation.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    How not to get cancelled.

    by Delz

    Dammit, tell me when I'm running out of characters!

  • April 20, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST


    by reflecto

    It's a difficult, disturbing, challenging, relatively non-fanservice-y show for people who wanted more of the same from Whedon. I love it.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:34 p.m. CST


    by reflecto

    The Unusuals is actually good, and fun, a cut above all the other mediocre primetime procedurals. You can't assemble that great cast anywhere else. Castle OTOH is a mediocre procedural, and I think the lady cop may be a robot, but Fillion and the jokes are pretty funny. It's nice fluff.

  • April 20, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Heroes - most disappointing show, post 1st season

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    For me Heroes is the most disappointing show post season 1, in recent years. <p> A show that seemed to be so fun and entertaining, became such a convuluted mess. <p> Shows like Supernatural on the other hand have got much better since season 1, found some real direction. <p> Are there other shows out there where people have been so disappointed in what they have seen after season 1 or alternatively where it has improved ?

  • April 20, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST


    by xsi kal

    Shows I watch that are likely to return:<br> How I met your Mother<br><br> Shows I watch unlikely to return:<br> Reaper<br> Life<br> Terminator<br><br> Shows I watch that are 50/50:<br> Castle<br> Chuck<br> <br>Dollhouse<br><br> Network shows I watch NOT on this list:<br> None.<br><br> Yay for fucking network television!

  • April 20, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST


    by calibandonflamingo

    Anybody watch it tonight? Pretty good I thought.

  • April 20, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Please kill dollhouse..

    by ulcer

    .. and save TSCC. You're about to get a bump from the terminator movies.

  • April 20, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Chuck kicked major ass this week

    by Bramton1

    Tonight's episode and next week's line up with House taking two weeks off. Hopefully the ratings get a boost and NBC notices.

  • April 20, 2009, 10:33 p.m. CST

    The Whedonites must be screaming loudly.

    by AnnoyYou

    Why is Dollhouse "fifty-fifty?" It sucks! It's certainly worse than Chuck or Reaper. The Whedon faithful must be threatening to commit hari-kiri in front of the Fox corporate offices, otherwise it would be as gone as SCC (anothing bad, deservedly canceled series).

  • April 20, 2009, 10:34 p.m. CST

    To all the Unit fans...

    by Rogue4

    ... at this point I think its just as well that it get the axe. For 3 seasons it was without a doubt one of televisions best. But this current season, to my mind, not only the network execs but the show's very creators did everything in their power to kill it. If it wasn't the ridiculous Sunday time slot constantly pushed back by football games and pre-empted by whatever lame hallmark movie of the week or awards show, than it was the staggering drop in the quality of the writing. For me the tipping point was the ridiculous cop out non-resolution of the col Ryan/Tiffy affair. A fist fight and everyones pals again, WoW. To me this season has yielded a total of about 4 solid episodes. In its current state there just won't be much to miss.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:38 p.m. CST


    by Mindtrip

    Thanks, I must have missed that.

  • April 20, 2009, 11:40 p.m. CST

    The Only Reason I Still Watch Network TV

    by DookieMercury

    Castle, Unusuals different takes on the cop show old but decent. Dollhouse, I guess its the mystery aspect series tv that is compelling is rare. Put it to you like this without dollhouse theres Heroes. Anything on CW isn't worth mentioning until they get their shit together. I mean you house the biggest distributors of television show and you give me fucking Gossip Girl and remakes of 90210 and Melrose Place? Granted they have Reaper which is like a supernatural Chuck. But to watch continual girl baiting dreck every day without anything interesting you wonder why these jackasses are dumbfound in their continuing floundering. Wake me when they get better show then I'll come back, CW = motherfuckers.

  • April 21, 2009, 12:10 a.m. CST


    by aversiontherapy2

    Having Yvonne walk around in her underwear might help ratings somewhat, I'm going to wear out my dvr watching it...

  • April 21, 2009, 12:11 a.m. CST

    BETTER OFF TED better be back

    by zillabeast

    Great characters, great comedy. A worthy save for ABC should they chose to do so.

  • April 21, 2009, 12:24 a.m. CST


    by watch_the_world_burn

    The those confused by the setting, Kings is a modern day re-telling of the Story of David from the Old Testament. Names and places are taken directly from the Bible. McShane is based on Saul, the kingdom is ancient Israel (Shiloh was the ancient religous capital) etc. Not sure on the map accuracy, or if they bother - I doubt the average American would recognise the political borders of the ancient Middle East. Thought it was pretty obvious from the start though, what with David vs Goliath and the "crown of butterflies" stuff in the first episode.

  • April 21, 2009, 12:26 a.m. CST

    ABC Family & Reaper

    by Don Lockwood

    I wouldn't put money on it. <p> They canceled the vastly superior The Middleman. There's no way in hell (ha!) that they'll pick up Reaper. <p> I'd like to see Terminator continue especially considering the spectacular finale. I love HIMYM and I've been getting a kick out of Better Off Ted. <p> Oh, and those of you saying that Nielson is outdated? TiVo agrees with you and that's why they're starting their own ratings service.

  • April 21, 2009, 12:39 a.m. CST

    WTF -- Pushing Daisies versus Ugly Betty

    by Big Dumb Ape

    What the fuck? ABC punts Pushing Daisies and yet Ugly Betty is likely to return? Seriously, who the hell makes these kinds of decisions? Or more to the point, who the fuck watches such utter shit TV? I must be living a country filled with Romero-like zombies if people are actually tuning into Ugly Betty still.<p>I swear, if ever there was proof that the Nielsens are totally out of date and out of touch and there desperately needs to be a COMPLETELY REVAMPED system for determining actual viewership, it's the fact that a fun, original and truly great show like Pushing Daisies is gone and we'll now miss out on a total cutie like Kristen Chenoweth, yet America Ferrera's ugly fat ass will be back on TV for yet another year!

  • April 21, 2009, 12:39 a.m. CST

    Very enjoyable thread to read...

    by DanielKurland

    Just nice to see passion towards television. Hell, more often than not, the brilliant shows I get into get canceled, but isn't it fun rooting for these underdogs, and sometimes seeing them succeed?

  • April 21, 2009, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Dear Programming Execs: GET A CLUE!

    by Big Dumb Ape

    You know, if SO many shows are failing and if SO many things are facing the knife, once again I just wish these lame-brained TV execs would use the summer to run UNAIRED PILOTS they're just sitting on...that they actually have ALREADY PAID FOR AND test the waters and to see what people might REALLY get excited over.<p>Seriously, if you have so many shows shitting up the airwaves, why can't I finally see the unaired Warren Ellis GLOBAL FREQUENCY pilot? For the MILLIONS of dollars that were spent on it, why can't I finally see John Woo's (John Woo!!!) LOST IN SPACE pilot that the WB passed on?<p>NOTE TO TV EXECS -- get your heads out of your asses and show some of these pilots. Little history lesson for you: CBS was going to bury MAGNUM: PI because they didn't think it was good enough, but then Lucas and Spielberg came knocking to use Tom Selleck for RAIDERS. That is what finally got CBS to say "Gee, maybe they know something that we don't and we should actually air this thing and see how it goes." I'll tell you how it went: the fucking pilot that CBS almost buried resulted in 8 years of primetime success and millions of dollars.<p>So get your heads out of your asses already. The summer is coming when you'll just give us reruns anyway. So if you're going to bag so much of the dreck you have been showing, use that time to take a few chances!

  • April 21, 2009, 1:26 a.m. CST

    Ugly Betty

    by Series7

    I thought it was already canceled?

  • April 21, 2009, 1:26 a.m. CST

    Medium Sucks

    by Series7

    Who fucking watches that?

  • April 21, 2009, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Life sucks

    by Series7

    Gave up after that terrible Prince of Persia montage. Cupid sucks without Piven. And Reaper just isn't that good. It was ok at first now its just meh.

  • April 21, 2009, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles

    by Series7

    Thank god now I can have my Friday's back. Why I watched that show is beyond me. It just just awful, someone needs to give Summer a much better movie. Maybe a mistaken twin identity or sister movie with Christian Ricci?

  • April 21, 2009, 1:53 a.m. CST

    I don't get TV numbers

    by moviemenace

    I was scanning the newspaper last week and was surprised to see "Reaper" pulls in bigger numbers than both 90210 and Gossip Girls. None of those shows ratings are good but Reaper outperformed both of them by a marginal number. So why does the rarely promoted Reaper get axed and those heavily promoted other shows get to stick around?

  • April 21, 2009, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Chuck is probably the most entertaining show on TV.

    by UMAGA

    It actually makes me laugh every week and I can't say that about much TV these days. I honesty love everything about the show. Well..except everyone's always fucking down on Buy More employees. We can't all be doctors, Awesome. Awesome rules anyway.

  • April 21, 2009, 3:39 a.m. CST

    This may be the last season of scripted television...

    by Bones

    Seriously.<p> Think about how many shows are on that are actually cool, well-written and interesting. Now think about how many crappy, bottom-feeding so-called "Reality" television shows are on the air.<p> Now, think about the ratings--and which shows are in danger of being cancelled.<p> I basically refuse to watch new TV at this point. What would be the point? It is all cancelled before they finish their stories.<p> If everyone who made a new show thought that their initial order of episodes was the entire run, told a complete story but kept enough ideas that it could continue (just in case)--then people would want to buy the series on DVD, so they could watch a complete story.<p> The return of the Mini-Series.<p> You heard it here first.

  • April 21, 2009, 3:42 a.m. CST

    All of these shows are horrid and should be canned.

    by Pagliacci

    Seriously, if you enjoy any of these, you're an idiot. Please stop using oxygen. At the moment, there are zero, none, nada decent dramas on television. And only The Office and Eastbound & Down are truly stellar comedies. Television has been devoid of good dramas since The Sopranos and Deadwood.

  • April 21, 2009, 5:41 a.m. CST

    moviemenace: Because Reaper draws an older audience...

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    Gossip Girls and 90210 draw a younger and larger female audience. That's the demographic that The CW wants because it's the niche they're cultivating towards advertisers. It doesn't matter that Reaper draws higher ratings, because companies that want to advertise on The CW don't care to sell to that show's audience.

  • April 21, 2009, 5:56 a.m. CST

    Zero? Yeah, whatever.

    by The McPoyle Clan

    Wake up and tune to AMC on Sunday nights at 10. Breaking Bad is kicking all kinds of ass.

  • April 21, 2009, 6 a.m. CST

    And the Lost TBs

    by The McPoyle Clan

    are probably purposely delayed to minimize the chances of another spoiler fiasco like when the flash forwards were leaked.

  • April 21, 2009, 6:21 a.m. CST


    by freekydeeky

    about Chuck, that Agent Walker has a nice rack. Just saying.

  • April 21, 2009, 6:52 a.m. CST

    Stargate Universe will make these shows look like colorful slime

    by dioxholster

    chuck is not very good <p> Reaper is not very good <p> TSCC is not very good <p> anyone who says differently should be dropped off a an airbus

  • April 21, 2009, 7:13 a.m. CST


    by ErecT

    What do you want to know about Nielsen and the numbers? As I mentioned earlier, I work in there technology center where the numbers originate, so ask away.

  • April 21, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST

    die mentalist!

    by pikagreg

    ripoff assholes

  • April 21, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST


    by pikagreg

    I just finished doing a weeklong "television journal" for Nielson. Do those get used for the numbers at all?

  • April 21, 2009, 9:09 a.m. CST

    Chuck is awesome

    by STLost

    What an awesome episode leading up to the season finale. Yes, I said season finale because I think it will be back. <p>I love the new burden of responsibility on Captain Awesome's shoulders, now that he knows Chuck is a spy. <p>"I need you to be.......awesome." <p>

  • April 21, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST


    by ErecT

    The journals are supposed to get used, but they are factored in after the equation since national overnights are based solely on the Nielsen boxes (as I mentioned earlier, those boxes are in roughly 60% of Nielsen homes). The diaries work like this: those instant numbers we all see...those are form the boxes, the diaries are used to help stations determine profitable time slots for ad gives a more complete picture of the demographic, but they really aren't used for ratings info. It'sas archaic as it sounds. We have a room with a bunch of brown legal type boxes filled with those diaries broken down by zip code. When a local station is visiting, some of their staff will go into a designated client room and review the journals. Having sat in those sessions, I cna tell you no one cares about the ratings info, it's solely demo info, who's watching what at what time and how much can they now justify charging for time during a particular program.

  • April 21, 2009, 9:21 a.m. CST

    How I Met Your Mother is awful

    by Dr. Hfuhruhurr

    I give every comedy a try and I've watched it twice and never laughed. The lead guy looks like a woman in drag, the girl is bland, I'm so sick of Jason Segal (is that his name?) popping up in comedies when he is so unfunny. The only saving grace is Neil Patrick Harris. If he had a spinoff I'd probably watch. CBS comedies are cookie cutter and lack innovation. NBC may be at the bottom, but at least their comedies are fresh.

  • April 21, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Is there anything worth watching then?

    by Mooly

    The vast majority of TV shows I've watched last season and recently are NEW shows. Better of Ted is hillarious, Pushing Daisies got axed, Dirty Sexy MOney got axed (but deserved it after retooling the second season), My Own Worst Enemy - axed, Dollhouse (which I've been a strong supporter and fan) supposedly 50/50 but they won't air the final episode, Chuck has been solid since day 1 and may get axed...I've only seen a couple eps of Castle, but it may also get axed. I've been watching Cupid, and was a HUGE fan of the original, but this new version stinks and feel like after-school-special compared to the original. Meanwhile, I've stopped watching 24, stopped watching heroes, stopped Desperate Housewives long ago, the same with Grey's Anatomy (hated it since it became the Lizzy & George show). Lost is still great, but there is only one more season. I guess there is still House? Might as well cancel all my cable and just get Showtime so I can watch weeds, californication and dexter. At least then I'd only have a TV bill for 3 months out of the year. Networks...get your shit together. If you continue NOT giving new shows a proper chance you will continue losing viewers to the internet. This is just getting fucking sad now. Is there a single NEW show in a couple years that has stuck around? Networks need to pull their heads out of their asses and understand this isn't 5 or 10 years ago. They aren't going to get 20 million viewers for every show. There are way more channels to watch, they are competing against HBO and Showtime and other premium channels, there is DVR and Internet which tons of people use but isn't counted in the ratings. Hell, my parents got DVR long before I did and haven't watched live TV in a long time. They tape everything and watch when they want. I also rarely watch scheduled TV anymore since I got DVR. TV is going to go the way of the music companies if they don't come back to earth and get a little more realistic about their ratings chances as reported by Nielson.

  • April 21, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST


    by Cletus Van Damme

    It literally JUST came back, now it's canceled already? It's better than 90% of the tripe out there, DO NOT CANCEL THIS ONE!!!!!!!!

  • April 21, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Why did Chuck need to get a condom to fuck Sarah?

    by Leafar the Lost

    Chuck woke up, there was Sarah right next to him willing to fuck, and the first thing he does is run into the bathroom to get a condom, but his friend had replaced it with a note. What the fuck?! Sarah did not ask him to put on a condom. She knew that Chuck didn't have any diseases, because she was watching him 24 hours a day. Did Chuck really think that Sarah had AIDS or something? She would have stopped him if that were the case, because part of her job was to protect him. The only thing that Chuck had to worry about was getting her pregnant, and that is what the Morning After pill is for you motherfucking idiot!!! The only reason that the condom hunt was put into the script was to make some kind of political statement. Yes, we get it, always use a condom, but Chuck had the chance to fuck a blond goddess. I know its just a TV show, but it still pissed me off. Jesus Christ (Yes?) Yvonne Strahovski is hot! I hope they cancel "Chuck" just because of that scene.

  • April 21, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST

    I liked Kings, I just don't watch it

    by CherryValance

    it's one of those things where you need to pay attention and I can't really pay attention to any new shows right now. I was hoping to watch the whole thing on DVD. I didn't know it was doing badly. Whoops. I watched a couple episodes of "Crusoe" looking for Sean Bean. That show was fairly stupid but that lead guy was really hot. It seems like a lot of these shows get everything right except for the actual writing. "Castle" I've been 1/2 watching, guess why, but it's dialogue is trying to be romantic comedy snappy and I don't really understand who the people are that fall for that junk. But then again I don't watch that Housewives crap, so maybe that's who they're going after. Do they count how many people watch these things online or are they still going by Neilsen families?

  • April 21, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    condom was a political statement?

    by palooka_boy

    or a plot device? you decide.

  • April 21, 2009, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Uh, the condom was a political statement and a plot device...

    by Leafar the Lost keep Chuck and Sarah apart until the end of the series, which will probably be in a few weeks.

  • April 21, 2009, 12:19 p.m. CST


    by Toonol

    Some of us simply use a condom routinely, even though we're disease-free and are 99% sure whoever we're with is. And believe it or not, you're better off not popping the morning-after pill every time you have sex.<p> So, although it wasn't a political statement, it was a clunky plot device (as palooka_boy suggests).

  • April 21, 2009, 1:55 p.m. CST

    Big Dumb Ape - NBC Tried Running a Pilot That Wasn't Picked Up O

    by The Gipper

    NBC tried running a pilot that wasn't picked up once during the summer. It was some show called "Seinfeld."<p> <p>,,20202819_20202832_1200145_1,00.html <p> Seinfeld PREMIERED May 31, 1990 THE SCOOP Note to current and future network TV execs: Sometimes it pays to bet on an oddball (even if you're not quite willing to premiere it during the regular TV season). Of course, this particular bet took a while to pay off. NBC aired comedian Jerry Seinfeld's sitcom pilot — titled The Seinfeld Chronicles — as a one-time special in the summer of 1989, then gave the series a mere four airings in 1990. That tiny investment of airtime eventually yielded huge ratings dividends. Seinfeld not only went on to become a cornerstone of NBC's must-see Thursday lineup, but it also left a lasting mark on the pop-culture lexicon, introducing the world to such Seinfeld-ian terms as sponge-worthy, puffy shirt, ''serenity now,'' the manssiere, Sack Lunch, and, of course, yadda, yadda, yadda.

  • April 21, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Stopped watching Chuck...

    by Kid Z

    ...when the blonde spy chick stopped working at the restaurant with the St. Pauli Girl waitress uniforms... and because I realized the Asian Emo chick was really sort of fugly.

  • April 21, 2009, 3:06 p.m. CST


    by Kid Z

    ...the nets are also out to get the female demographic because that's the politically-correct, trendy thing to do now. I'm sorry, but most women basically have the worst taste imaginable when it comes to drama, art, pop culture, film, music, etc., etc. (I know this sounds misogynistic, wish it wasn't true, but it is) Women are programmed at an early age to go along with the lowest common denominator in order to be "popular". (Can't blame them for going along, either... as a man, I never had to deal with the viciousness of "the mean girls" so I really can't blame them) Bottom line... your girlfriend (and everyone else's) has destroyed TV!

  • April 21, 2009, 3:26 p.m. CST

    chuck sux

    by slkboxrman

    Its popular because their are masturbatable women on the show, and it gives hope to all u nerds that u 2 might score with anything even close to that...other than that its a mess of a show that will hopefully get canned. And to post on this board that chuck should hav just had sex without a condom just proves how dumb some of u are when it comes to sex and why there are so many fatherless babies in the world.... hopefully LIFE and Terminator will b back, both excellent shows, Eleventh Hour as well...also just cuz a show isn't on the list don't mean its not coming back or not..

  • April 21, 2009, 4:13 p.m. CST

    CHUCK Versus The Colonel was badass

    by Razorback

    One of the best episodes OF ALL TIME. And did AICN cover it? Nope. Anyway, check out this link for 50 seconds of why CHUCK rules:

  • April 21, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    Sweet relief

    by DirkAngerReloaded23

    The only postitives to Chuck & Kings being cancelled, along with Reaper, is that it finally eliminates the need for me to watch ANYTHING on NBC or CW, outside of Smallville. Knockin off networks man, gotta love it, cause that means more summer beach time for me. Yay.

  • April 21, 2009, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Programs That Should Disappear or Needed a Changed Premise

    by Karuma

    The Amazing Race-huge numbers, horrible concept, poorly shot and edited. 90210-7 people watch this show, which is good for the CW, but not for a real network. Privileged-Started well enough but soon bogged down into the lesson of the week. HIMYM-Never very good, over acted and way too needy. Dancing With The Stars-Horrible and apparently cursed. The Biggest Loser-pure exploitation and not in a good way. Private Practice-Bad high school drama. Too bad it's about 30 somethings in a doctor's office. It might make a decent teen comedy. The Hills-Idiotic Kath and Kim-Great writing but the acting is horrendous. Hell's Kitchen-Who cares? America's Next Top Model-America's Next 15 Minutes of Fame, nothing more American Dad, King of the Hill-when were these ever funny? CSI:Miami-Poorly written and executed. Horrible acting. In The Motherhood-How did this show ever get a green light? Wife Swap-Just stupid. Changed Premise Kings-Should have been about the King of America with another country west of the Mississippi called the Republic of Texas or California. Knight Rider-Single guy linked mentally to the car he developed. Episodes are stand alone. Similar to Viper. Hiding out from those who want to steal his technology. Cupid-More magic My Own Worst Enemy-Speed up!!Tell a story for once. Terminator-Should have left out the teen age angst routine. That episodic arc sealed it's doom.

  • April 21, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST

    I love Kings!

    by I Hope You Die

    Is it going to live out its full 13 episode run? I always assumed it was a miniseries and wouldn't be renewed since David will be king and nobody wants to watch that.

  • April 21, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    "Yes, they deserved to die and I hope they burn in hell!"

    by Leafar the Lost

  • April 21, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    I Hope You Die

    by Johnny Smith

    Kings was removed completely from NBC's schedule today. I am sad.

  • April 21, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Johnny Smith

    by Pennsy

    Kings will be back this summer: It returns June 18 and will end its run July 25.

  • April 21, 2009, 10:49 p.m. CST

    Just cancel Dollhouse...

    by GaiustheBrave

    Seriously, has Whedon done anything good beyond Firefly? I used to be a HUGE Buffy and Angel fan, but I decided to hit the dvd's again a few months back and I just realized what complete shit most of the episodes are. Terminator has to come back; it's finally hitting its stride and even the iffy eps aren't so bad when you watch them at leisure (i.e., you haven't been waiting all week for them). Besides, Summer Glau is hot! If they put her in tight leather pants every ep, ratings would soar (at least for the geek-boys' obligatory 3 minutes). As long as we get Lost (which we are!), Supernatural, TSCC and 30 Rock, the universe will be fine.

  • April 21, 2009, 11:19 p.m. CST

    But hey

    by Series7

    Two and Half men is coming back, right? OHHH I HOPE SO! That show is so funny. Almost as good as the George Lopez show or According to Jim. Luck for us Mr. King of the Stand Up George Lopez is getting his own late night TALK SHOW! COME ON HOW AWESOME IS THAT! Fucking Beverly Hills Chihuahua with his own late night talk show! Its going to be so good, like Chevy Chase good. Man Chevy needs to be a bad guy on some show, that'd be good.

  • April 21, 2009, 11:20 p.m. CST


    by Series7

    They always start off good, then about half way through they turn to suck. Last weeks episode was the first time the whole episode was actually pretty good.

  • April 22, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST

    The Lone "Knight Rider" fan walks in....

    by Geomancer21

    Shakes his head, and walks out again.

  • April 22, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    George Lopez

    by calibandonflamingo

    His uncensored standup is pretty hilarious. Great observational humor...but everytime I see him on a talkshow he seems restrained and sucks hard. We do NOT want more fucking talkshows!

  • April 22, 2009, 10:30 a.m. CST


    by SunTzu77

    GREAT SHOW! I know I know... about the most enthusiastic I've ever been.

  • April 22, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    I love Chuck...

    by allykatD

    It's one of the few show my entire family sits down together to watch. It's funny, well written, quirky characters, funny and unique in a TV show land littered with glum and serious police procedurals. I'd like to see T:SCC and Castle stay too. Oh, and who the hell watches Ghost Whisperer and Numbers? Seriously.

  • April 22, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    I'll soon have no more TV to watch

    by _Maltheus_

    TSCC is great, my favorite network show after Lost. My third favorite is Kings. My former first favorite show was Pushing Daisies. I'm also a big Reaper and Chuck fan. And of course, I don't watch anything on the "Likely to Return" list. So fuck the suits up their stupid fucking asses. And fuck the people in this country for their bad tastes.

  • April 22, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Kings just got postponed til the Summer

    by polyh3dron

  • April 22, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Last week's Chuck = Series Finale

    by Bill Clay

    Really, they tied up all loose ends and brought closure to the whole Chuck storyline. If they had ended the series with everyone heading off for the wedding rehearsal that would have been the perfect finale.<p> Besides, next season's show will be unrecognizable if they do renew it for another year. They've ended the story. It would be a different show using the same characters. Nothing is worse than prolonging a show's demise by throwing the original premise out the window and trying to attract viewers with a different direction.<p> Joanie loves Chachie? After-MASH? Ashes to Ashes? <g>

  • April 22, 2009, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Who am I kidding?

    by Keblar

    I've been done with network TV since Serenity got fumbled. LOST will be the only show left worth watching, and that's probably only because Abrams has so much Pull.

  • April 22, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Castle is a very fun show

    by StrykerIsland

    My wife and I have enjoyed the hell out of Castle since it premiered a month or so ago. It's been ages since anything new came on TV that we actually enjoyed, here's hoping it's renewed.

  • April 22, 2009, 3:59 p.m. CST


    by Cory849

    I don't watch a single show on those lists. The internet and HBO/Showtime have killed Network Television.

  • April 22, 2009, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Cable have the only good shows

    by romanocc

    I can't remember the last show I watched consistently on ABC, CBS, NBC, etc? Probably King of Queens or Raymond. The sitcom is dead, there are too many CSI's, and shows like Chuck are ridiculous. HBO, not as great as it used to be, still has shows like Curb and Entourage that are great. If they took away the basic channels from my TV lineup, I don't think I would miss them.

  • April 22, 2009, 4:10 p.m. CST

    50% of My Weekly TV is on the line

    by AugustusGloop

    Geez! Cupid, Sarah Conner, Ted, Chuck, Castle, Dollhouse... Enjoying all of those. Dollhouse was slow to start, but it's gotten very intriguing. Chuck has been a winner from day 1. I didn't expect Sarah Conner to be good, but it has continued to improve, and this season was fantastic! Cupid needs more time to build an audience. Three episodes, and you're talking about cancelling it? ABC is learning from Fox, it would seem. I want Castle to succeed, just because Fillion *really* deserves a primetime spot. So, I'll be sad to see any of these go.

  • April 22, 2009, 4:17 p.m. CST

    why NBC Sucks the P's cock

    by spiceybiscuit

    You put Jay Leno on at 10 and no one will watch his POS show and yet a show as good as Life might not make it??? Seriously, who is running that network?

  • April 22, 2009, 5 p.m. CST

    THE UNIT??

    by celebritydave

    FUCK!!!! good show. only upside is shawn ryan will create another cool show for me to watch. i still wanna see "Vic & Shane: The Early Years". watch as Vic starts to become corrupt. glorious!

  • April 22, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST


    by wixmmm

    if you've actually been watching chuck, you would know that it has developed a larger mythology and has had an awesome story arc going for a while now. Some great shows start with very episodic/self contained episodes, while slowly building towards a great story arc about 1 1/2 seasons. Look at some of the best shows--supernatural, buffy, angel, (even firefly to a certain extent) smallville (granted, not one of the best shows on tv, but it has followed the same formula) alias, x-files, life, and more. With what chuck has been doing as far as the new story arc has made it one of the shows i really look foward to, instead of just a show i like. Fucking losers are so guick to hate on a show without having any idea whatsoever about what is going on in that show. Its pathetic. Inform yourself before you make judgements and call something crap that nobody should like. What are you people hoping to accomplish??? you think those of us who really like a given show will read your ignorant, lame ass post and suddenly realize the show we are enjoying so much sucks??? seriously, get a life.

  • April 22, 2009, 8:57 p.m. CST

    Why, Oh Why?????????

    by BrannigansLaw

    I don't watch many shows, but wouldn't you know that the shows I DO watch would be in danger. This SUCKS!!!!! FTR... <p><p> Chuck is good escapist entertainment. It never pretends to be anything other than what it is: a funny and sometimes sexy show that never takes itself too seriously. (BTW, nothing but love for Yvonne, but Chuck's sister (Sarah Lancaster) is the hottest!!!) <p><p> I would say that LIFE is the best cop show on TV, but I don't watch any other cop shows consistently; none of the other shows have been able to hold my interest for more than a couple of eps. In contrast, LIFE is quirky without trying too hard (e.g. Unusuals), can be procedural without being too... procedural (e.g. Law & Order), and has a nice underlying conspiracy plot without becoming to tired and worn (e.g. many other conspiracy stories). <p><p> Medium is a consistently good show that is suffering from the "Heroes curse"; any show that follows Heroes is likely to fail. This is because NBC sticks with Heroes because it captures a key demographic even though it does poorly, overall. There's nothing wrong with this strategy except that any other show that appeals to a different demographic will likely fail. This is what ultimately killed Journeyman. NBC would be better off grouping Journeyman and Medium in to a single block (maybe Sunday) and creating a Heroes spin-off to follow Heroes. It makes sense to double down on the key demographic... but, hey, what do I know... <p><p> Better Off Ted is one hell of a funny show that more of you should be watching. If ABC would give this show a chance to find its audience they may actually have a hit on their hands.<p><p> If these shows are canceled, I'll likely stop taking a chance on major network shows. I'll just stick to cable: Burn Notice, Leverage, and The Closer.

  • April 22, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST

    wixmm -> Chuck

    by BrannigansLaw


  • April 22, 2009, 11:50 p.m. CST

    RE: Won't matter Keblar

    by Keblar

    " They'll likely treat that stuff like spam. Online petitions are worthless. Physical snail mail is always better. Voting with your dollar is the best way to voice your opinions. If the show already has seasons on DVD, buying them en masse will probably show your support for the show than some e-campaign." Okay, so what's a good physical to mail to at FOX then?

  • April 23, 2009, 1:43 a.m. CST


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  • April 23, 2009, 8:18 a.m. CST

    I haven't even heard of half these shows

    by Trazadone

    Cancel them all, who cares. Okay, keep How I Met Your Mother, that one is pretty damn funny. It boggles my mind that Smallville is still on! Isn't he Superman yet? What a borefest.