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TRANSFORMERS 2 Showest footage!!!
Hey folks, Harry here with a ShoWest scene from TRANSFORMERS 2 that Michael Bay posted up. Has that same goofy sense of humor, but I have to say - I am really prefering the action shots in this film versus the last. The Transformers are in Natural settings where they pop from their backgrounds and really stand out. Also seems to be more full length shots as opposed to fetishistic close ups. Let's hope this is as good as it looks. Me, I can't wait to see!
*Exclusive* Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Footage from Bay Films/Michael Bay Dot Com on Vimeo.
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...is as good as this footage makes it look.
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...a pre-emptive fuck-off-and-die to the haters.
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Now let's see how long it takes for the hate to begin.
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I'll reserve judgment until I see the film.
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IMPRESSIVE! MOST IMPRESSIVE!!
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thought the first was mindless fun eventhough i fell asleep about 3/4 through and my friend had to wake me up for the ending
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DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY
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please, just speak! whats the friggin deal with maknig him mute? nobody liked it in the first film, and now they've done it again. he needs to be a wise crackin' his way through this movie.
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Is that what Jetfire says? Haha, that was a trip.
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would you post the smallest embed humanly possible?
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After 10 years here yipee!!!
Yeah the video looks goofy as hell but more of the same so its all good and Megafox teases a little which is always welcome!!!! -
something like this " I wanted some kind of interaction with Sam and Bumblebee, a guy playing with his alien robotic friend .." or shit like that. Now it seems Bay read your review so we have that scene almost the way you wished for. looks great but no toys for me.
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If they would just make up their minds. Is it a kids movie or an adult action flick? You just can't mix both and expect us to take it seriously.
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I lol'd.
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It's always easier to do inorganic stuff than organic, but damn it if I wouldn't think Bumblebee literally existed.
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How funny, wait till the "we know besters" see that they will cry themselves, remember girls its all make believe anyway.
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Loved the first one, this one looks good to me too! If you are one of those "they raped my childhood" people, you have the cartoon. You will always have the cartoon. Go watch it. Enjoy it. For the rest of us who grew up but want something new then these movies are great. Giant robots, NEW giant robots, new giant robots fighting, MEGAN FOX... what else do I need in a movie!?!?
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Checkout the crazy ass fight on that helipad. Wild.
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Show me an 18-year-old guy who wouldn't want to take his INDESTRUCTIBLE LIVING CAR with him to college.
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it is the same garbage. If they really wanted to improve it they would have left John Torturro out from this one.
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This looks shitty/ass. This was the best they could come up with? They put THIS into the script? This was worse than anything they came up with last movie.
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Hope that was sarcastic otherwise it would be a epic fail....
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Damn you, I want to be a serious film fan, but every time you make a film I can't help but get on my knees and beg for more. DAMN YOU!
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Are you saying you cant have childish/silly humor and action in the same movie? Jeeze! Way to limit your entertainment choices. "No I don't want any choices for topping on my pizza. Just plain cheese will do. But still charge me full price, thank you." And I would hardly call big robots fighting ADULT action. You want "adult action" movies go see an R rated Tarantino movie or a Crank.
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Fucking retard. I'll piss on your fucking grave, cocksucker.
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The fact that he is in this movie in any incarnation pretty much means i'll see it. The haters can all lick my sack with all the "Oh why isn't he green and purple, why , why, why " bullshit. I still watch the cartoon movie at least once a week and I still fuckin love it but it's time to think a little more progressive. Personally I hate the flames on Optimus but I'm not boycotting the movie because of it. Giant robots smashing the fuck out of each other , what else do you need .
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Looks good. I don't care if autobots cry, its a movie adapted from a cartoon about alien robots for crying out loud! Just have fun!
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...exactly. Who the fuck cares what you think. There are more people who like this than haters. If you hate it fine, that is your opinion. I liked it, it was flawed, sure! There were things I disliked but it was a fun movie that I enjoyed. But you guys keep beating the same old fucking drum. Why if you hate it do you spend so much time on the subject. I tend to ignore stuff that I dislike....
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Why in a world where 99% of people fight, scream and claw to get attention and be on tv and be celebrities... where people will completely throw all dignity out the window on sleazy reality shows.... where riots break out on line to get on crap like America's Top Model.... does every piece of sci-fi entertainment revolve around some dumbass who wants to just be normal? Everyone on Heroes has at one time or another wished they didn't have powers (who the fuck wouldn't want a superpower?), John Conner on TSCC keeps wishing he was just a regular kid, now Sam in Transformers is ditching his giant-fighting-robot-mobile...? WTF? I mean, I understand Hollywood is addicted to the meme of the "reluctant and humble hero" but seriously... isn't there some other, more believable way they could manifest it then having the character idiotically whine and moan about having things most people would kill for? Sorry. End rant.
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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2min:32secs of TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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...this talk back is almost 30 comments deep and this is the first one that states that megan fox is one hot piece of ass.
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FUCK MICHAEL BAY!
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are the new flames on Optimus. You're ruining my childhood michael bay! Make it awesome, by blowing everything up like in your verizon commercial.
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yeah a lot of people like, so fucking what. A lot of people like High School Musical and Miley Cyrus, doesn't make any of them entertaining, just more mindless drivel for stupid kids and even stupider adults.
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You're the same dickheads who told people to "wait and see" with Watchmen. The "wait and see" guys who are really plants who try and make you see a movie even though it's shit. People like it now. But people liking it doesn't make it right by default. Just people are dickheads. What if you hated something people liked. Would that make you wrong? Would you want some dickhead telling you you're wrong because you see the garbage in something that other people don't? If a bunch of idiots like something and you're smart enough to see that it sucks, does their opinion invalidate your opinion?
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... most of you can do a better job why don't you. Write a script, get a studios backing and make a better movie. If you can do better do it! I would like to see the talkbacks after that has been released.
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You're assuming studios want to make a better movie, which in most cases they don't or don't care to.
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Why the fuck not? Sexist pigs!
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Haven't seen it sorry, it's not my cup of tea. But I know of people who liked it. Good for them. If I dislike something I would say it but I won't try to beat the guy who likes it over the head with my opinion trying to change his mind.
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Spike, that's Sam's cartoon equivalent from the old transformers cartoon to all you fake, bandwagon transformers 2007 fans, LOVED being around bumblebee and never tried to ditch him. But that's also just a great observation about hollywood and people in "real" life in general. People do go out of their way to get noticed, but all these sci-fi shows and genre and scripted shows would have you believe they just want to be left alone. Not reality hollywood. Show people for the pieces of shit they are.
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It's going to be a fun movie. Imagine that. Going to see something that is fun and enjoyable.
Sorry to you haters out there who wanted Saving Private Ryan in Transformers form.
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Are you a big Transformer fan?
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They can't even get to the action in a short clip without all the annoying non-robot shit.[/p][/p]I don't give a crap about The Beef and The Queef. All that shit feels like padding. I want to see transforming robots kicking the crap out of each other. [/p][/p] And don't tell me we need them for plot. The last movie didn't make a lick of fucking sense.
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I might be looking forward to this movie more than any other blockbuster this summer.
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Apr 18, 2009 11:39:23 AM CDT
SUSAN BOYLE YOUTUBE > MICHAEL BAY EXCLUSIVE TRANSFORMERS CLIP
by bringingsexyback
HAHAHHAHAHAAAA!!! You know it's true!!!
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"Now let's see how long it takes for the hate to begin." The fuck is that? You instigated the first comment. You instigated an arguement damn near at the top of the talkback. Come on man. Who are you trying to fool? I didn't try to beat anyone or bait anyone. But you little friend "Hugh G Rekshun" above you said "...a pre-emptive fuck-off-and-die to the haters." and I didn't see you accuse him of combative beat-you-down behavior. This shit swings both ways, pro or con. Both sides are attacking the other, so don't give me this shit that only the "haters" or whatever the fuck you call them are the ones instigating anything.
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If only Bay and the screenwriters put half the energy, that ILM puts into the visuals, into making a movie with characters I actually gave a shit about, you might have a great movie. This is going to be more of the same bullshit from the first one. Pass.
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If Bale didn't want us to hate, why did He give us the emotion? So we can appreciate how it feels to love.
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Really? I'd like some really good, airtight explanation for why a crying Bumblebee ruins the film. Please. We're listening.
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...but still entertaining. I said "Now let's see how long it takes for the hate to begin" because by now I know a Transformer talkback. So, back to my previous question. Are you a big transformer fan??? Of the cartoon series I mean. Because I can't say I am. Had a few of the toys back in the day but can't really say I was a huge fan. You?
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Damn you Michael!!!!
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good, actually excited to see this. megan fox being fit as fuck helps too
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Is Predator, or Aliens,or any of those other similar type movies saving private fucking ryan? Are they good are they quality? Were any of them ever up for any oscars? You dickheads use the same tired ass arguments for criticizing a viewpoint. "Oh it's not gone with the wind. You're not supposed to think. You're supposed to be dumb. This movie si based off a stupid concept. This movie is absed off a cartoon show. I diss the people who criticze it even though I hypocritically defend the piece of shit AFTER dissing the source material that it is based off of." I mean it's shit like that that I am tired of reading. I criticized the shitty "acting" by shay uh lebooth and the victoria's secret modelling bullshit by that whore megan foxxx. I hadn't seen the "trailer" fully but once I did, I actually became MORE upset. I can't make it who's who. You can't who is what and what the fuck is going on. The camera angles are all wrong, the designs are WAY too similar and bionicle-looking; it's all just fucked up. You can't even sell me on this shit. How can anyone give ILM props when they creted these ugly ass designs. The japanese shit RAPES this stuff. It shits on it. This is an embarassment to any and all designs.
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Looks fun, I like the interaction between Sam and BB. Jetfire's one line was awesome. Can't wait.
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I think it's because we've been made jaded and cynical in a world drowning in anger, hatred and suffering. We've lost our ability to connect on a human level.
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Maybe you should remember it's a movie. You are going to get a heart attack soon if a movie get you this worked up.
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that first scene was pretty horrible though...ugh
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Mwahaha.
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That was garbage. the first movie and the second. tell me they can't do better and I'll shut up. Tell me this is the zenith and I'll shut up. Tell me I'm not supposed to expect better and I'll shut up. Tell me there HASN'T been better, and I'll shut up. I hate to think what you consider the greatest in anything. You don't have to be stuck up to have taste or standards. Everyone on this board has their own. You and I are no different. They can do better with this shit. The fucking cartoon did better. Even beast wars is better than this shit, and I hated beast wars. How can I say the cgi is good when I can't make out their faces? Their faces are UNIDENTIFIABLE. How can people deFEND this shit man? The very people who defend it, who I suspect are fucking plants, are the very same people who do NOT buy the toys, don't or won't buy the soundtrack, won't buy the dvds, or any other transformers-related merchandise. They're fair weather movie fans that will buy and see any bullshit that hollywood doles out. These mothafuckas would say superman 64 from nintendo 64 was good.
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By "good," I'm assuming you mean "utter shit?"
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That looks good.
Maybe Bumblebee cries as he is pretending to be upset because his character has a sense of humour? You know, ironically crying? Or because he can’t talk properly so uses actions and music to communicate with primitive humans? Or any of a hundred fucking reasons.
Hopefully it is good, I don’t know, BECAUSE I HAVENT FUCKING SEEN IT YET.
Don’t watch it, read about it or comment if you think it looks crap. You will be happier if it upsets you so much.
Does anyone here like films? Or just bitching about ones you haven’t seen? I guess someone would say “I like good ones”. So do I so I’m hoping it’s good. If it isn’t according to reviews then I won’t watch it. I haven’t gone on here to whine about fucking “Big Mommas House” or other such shit.
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Apr 18, 2009 11:55:25 AM CDT
whothefuckcares sounds like he wanted to direct Transformers
by d.vader
But was passed over in favor of Bay. Sounds like he still carries that bitterness around with him.
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Now please, man up to your end of the bargain and shut up. Or add something constructive to the debate instead of sounding like a whiny bitch.
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how quickly people forget how he truly brought opera styled TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.
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Apr 18, 2009 11:57:35 AM CDT
You know, I always thought, and it wouldn't surprise me
by whothefuckcares
if Batman and Robin came out today, would people Batman and Robin the way they do transformers? There's no way in hell people would hate Batman and Robin the way they did in 1997. no way. Standards are so fuckin' low today it's silly. There are no standards anymore.
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Ok, you don't like it. You hate it. But please mate, calm the fuck down. You are going to burst something and we don't want our first ever death on a Transformer talkback. (I take it there hasn't been one yet...)
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...can't wait! This movie is gonna rule the box-office this summer! Go ahead, haters....boycott this flick. Picket outside of the theatres. Hell, throw a Goldberg spear at everyone trying to buy tickets! It'll STILL make a butt-load more money than you'll ever see in 10 lifetimes! Bring on the Bay-hem!
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Apr 18, 2009 11:58:53 AM CDT
And fuck you douche vader. You wanna play tennis with the insult
by whothefuckcares
Is that it?
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wouldn't want to take a Transformer to college?
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Shia's thing about going to college means he's out of the rest of the movie and maybe Megan Fox is a year younger than him or some shit so she's in the rest of the movie taking her pants off to reveal a short skirt every 10 to 15 minutes.
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The movie isn't serious enough. Oh Bumblebee Pee'd, or the Masturbation Joke or how Bumblebee cried.
A movie doesn't have to be completly serious to be enjoyable.
On another note, I love the designs. Sure it's not GeeeWunnnn. It's a different type. If you don't like it, well it sucks to be you.
But a classic hater is always the "You must be dumb if you like this movie hur hur hur, I have better taste than you."!!!!
You have your opinion and I have mine. Clearly I'm in the majority who likes this movie.
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In Monty Python and the Holy Grail. One more person is going to pop up with a "That ROCKED!" comment, and whothefuckcares' body is gonna freeze and lurch backwards in his chair with a screeching sound.
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No fracking way would that ever be considered good! I have never met anybody who liked it plus it's one of the few movies I have never been able to sit through. But please, although you hate Transformer you have to agree it's better than Batman and Robin....
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As much as I wanted to, it couldn't be done. So, uh, what's the problem with this scene exactly?
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That BB crying scene is some funny shit. Be a kid for a minute, instead of a bunch of jaded douche bags.
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Clearly this world isn't good enough for him and his tastes in all things great.
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Since when did ain't it cool talkbackers care about money? Since when was that a barometer of quality? Grrr accused me of ignornig his question, but everyone has ignored my question from earlier. There are tons of things you guys dislike that the mass populace does like. Does it invalidate your views? No, it does not. You hate hannah montana, tons of people like hannah montana. HANNAH MONTANA MAKES MONEY, SO THAT INVALIDATES ANYTHING YOU SAY. Are you invalidated because something you dislike makes money? See how stupid that sounds? Let' see if this shit'll get ignored this time. And stop calling people a whiny bitch because they don't like something. You have a fuckin right to simply say you don't like something every bit as much as you have a right to say you like it.
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Intended response. Check.
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I'm calling you a whiney bitch (I hadn't before, but I will now) because you are ACTING like a WHINEY BITCH.
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I kinda missed the robots and thought this was a five second clip of Megan Fox disrobing.This is going to make quadrillions of dollars because it is exactly what kids want to watch (frenetic action + average hero = 'it could be me' dream); teenagers will love it because they can get drunk/high beforehand and go "whoah"..."siiick"; Dads won't mind taking their kids because they noticed 'Mega' Fox in the first one and all the nerds will be there come hell or high water just so they can love it/hate it/think to themsleves 'I told you so...'It's an absolute banker.
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Apr 18, 2009 12:07:51 PM CDT
I didn't fuckin say comepletely serio..jesus christ.
by whothefuckcares
That's my fuckin' point and you MADE it with that idiotic comment. I never fuckin SAID it had to eb gone with the hand. You dumbasses jump to extrme conclusion with people's expectations. I thought the dark knight was over-rated bcause people thought it was oh so serious. Yeah right, like that clown eric roberts was up for a nomination. Like maggie ugly ass gyllenhal was up for a nomination. Who said anything about serious? That scene was an embarassment. the action scenes are hard to make out. The fucking transformers, the characters this movie is supposedly based around,and off of, are hard to make out. they are hardly in it. me saying that and pointing that out has shit to do with standards or anything else. That's a fact.
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because Bay is all about the nuance. He's got more fucking nuance than you'll ever dream of, you cheap fucker! He could fucking buy and sell all your nuance you no-account brown stain on a bum's soiled undies son of a bitch!
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Dude, I just wanted to find out if you were a die hard G1 fan. I was trying to figure out if your dislike stems from that. Anyway, it doesn't matter. I'm going to take the wife opening weekend and watch it. You can go do what pleases you.
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Shitting? Ejaculation? I CANT wait for TF3! Fuck the haters
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from saying "hells fuckin' yeah"
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To me, TF can be compared to Weird Science, Real Genius, Short Circuit, Space Camp, My Science Project, Zapped, The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes, Cat from Outer Space, etc. If I was a kid I'd eat it up. So I do like it from that angle. I like all of the above fun sci fi. But it's not Terminator or Star Wars or the Matrix or Alien. Or even LOTR. It's like a superhero movie where you have no idea who's winning a fight.
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Then they'll be back here telling us how awesome it was. Then they'll go back to hating it once TF3 is being made so they can't appear to look cool again.
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" never fuckin SAID it had to eb gone with the hand." Do what now?
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i've seen so many complain about Sam not brining Bumblebee along, on this and other sites. maybe my ears are special but it was made obvious that it wasnt a choice. for some reason his school doesn't let freshmen have cars so he cant bring him. now i'm sure there's no such rule in any school in real life but thats the reason here. all these people are acting like he's saying "fuck you B, i dont need ya" or something.
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Because your thoughts aren't coming out completely coherently, which aides in the depiction of you being whiney- you can't wait to get our your anger and frustrations, and your arguments sound less and less reasoned and more rushed and thoughtless.
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That rule is in place at LOTS of Universities because they suffer from a lack of good parking. Freshman aren't allowed to have cars, so I didn't have mine. Didn't have it sophomore year either because I couldn't pay for the expensive parking pass. The scene's reasoning is totally believable.
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but my point still stands, it isnt a choice to not bring him. i wonder if it was Bay's idea to destroy Prime's faceplate to piss off the fans who hate his mouth. lol
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Oh MB how can you suck and rock so much at the same time. :(
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Apr 18, 2009 12:16:04 PM CDT
What the fuck does some BITCH have to do with a transformers mov
by whothefuckcares
Last time I checked NO transformers cartoon or comic book revolved around some dude wantin' to get the school whore in his car and nail her. I mean it's not like it's an opinion. The transformers were hardly in the first movie. What are you going to see? What are you paying to see? Megan Fox? 'cause I'm not. I payed to see trans fucking formers and that's not what I'm getting. I'm getting transformers in name only. I mean you say the action is great, but where the fuck is it? You can hardly decipher where the action is taking place. The camera placement is all wrong. This was my problem with the first movie and it's my problem with this second one. Think of shooting a 6'5 or taller person from the floor. You're not shooting them from their height, but from the floor, that was my problem with the first one. And the camera doesn't pull back to let you see it all take place. It's like playing a fighting game or watching a boxing match, or hell, jesus, watching ANYTHING and the god damn is zoomed in too close. Way too fucking close. An it's whirring by too fast, instead of keeping still. Now I know dhaemon, and too a lesser extent grrr (you seem cool) and anyone else will totally ignore what I just typed and act as if I ONLY said "You must be dumb if you like this movie hur hur hur, I have better taste than you."!!!! Hopefulyl someone defending this tripe WILL rea dit and see I made vali points as to why I dislike it.
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Actually our univercity's don't allow first years (freshman's for you) to have cars on campus grounds. It a space thing. On your second year you get a parking pass that allows your car on grounds. Boring I know but thought I would put it out there anyway....
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are all better than Saving Private Ryan. Just making that clear.
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Seen it's been answered... In the words of Optimus Prime: "My bad!"
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I liked these TRANSFORMER 2 clips better when there was less talking. I couldn't help but cringe at the dialogue in this one. I'm not a hater. I actually mildly enjoyed the first film, in a Saturday-morning-cartoon kind of way. I guess I'll just have to resign myself to the fact that the sequel may be just as childish and silly as the first one.
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Apr 18, 2009 12:18:24 PM CDT
Still can't tell the difference between any of the robots
by thick mcrunfast
There's so much detail and articulation in every one that hardly any personality comes through. Bay's people could take a lesson or two from Pixar about how to give computer animation real life. On the other hand, no one and no thing is really allowed to emote in a Michael Bay film, anyway - so maybe I'm being too harsh.
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You're surprised you can't tell what's happening from half-second snippets in a freaking TEASER? Dude, its a classic example of hating before seeing the finished product. And you say he didn't pull the camera back? Did you just watch the same footage? Did you not see that full shot of Optimus getting kicked in the face? Or the long shot of him flying through the air with 3 Decepticons in the background? Or are you just not paying attention? Oh and again, ITS A FREAKING TEASER!
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That looks fucking excellent; I cannot wait to see this.
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Apr 18, 2009 12:27:49 PM CDT
Speaking of dislikes (I know I'm gonna get shit for this)
by whothefuckcares
The acting. "But it's not Terminator or Star Wars or the Matrix or Alien." (Thanks Dataset for the list this was the point I tried to make earlier. Oh, also, notice how all the movies except The Matrix came out in the 80's?) These movies, (to a lesser extent Star Wars, but still) had acting. Credible fucking acting. Die Hard had it. Predator had it. Lethal Weapon. the list goes on. For Christ's sake Boiler Room had acting. Mickey Rourke in Sin City was FUN to watch, for all those people who say "haters" hate having fun. This movie DOESN'T. but oh no,oh no,it HAS to be serious. Right, dhaemon? Predator was fucking serious? Well, actually it was, but that was because they didn't take their premise completely as a fucking joke. They had some respect for it. The makers of transformers thumb their noses down at transformers. For Jesus Christ fucking sake Michael bay said he didn't want to make the transformers movie on the god damn audio commentary! I mean how the fuck more do you need to prove that they don't give a fuck about this? Jesus Christ. it ain't wrong to want quality. I don't want an Oscar bait movie. I want something that respects my and your intelligence. That doesn't eman serious fuckin' Oscar-quality movie, but how the fuck is that a bad thing if it is Oscar-quality? I know what Crank is. I can see Crank,know that it is trying to be a certain thing, and respect it for that. I don't even like Jason Statham, but that particular movie, and series, is ok with me. It ain't the standard of my movie-going experience, but it is a "fun" movie. It looks ok. Whatever. But not transformers. We all have our loves. Lots of people love this shit. You have yours. I have mine. Don't fuckin' shit on someone for what they like being raped.
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Sheesh.
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Really? You own the Transformers DVD *and* have listened to the director's commentary?
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I doubt they'll leave in the interacial gangbang, were I got every oriface rattled by cast, crew and robot alike, but Mike wanted the kiddies to see it too, and you all know this looks awesome, just ignore my (and all the other humans) acting and watch the smashy smashy bang bangs. Boom Baby. Giant Robo cocks rule all night long
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Are you even REAding anything I'm typing? The first movie's ACTION SCENES were EDITED like they were FUCKING TRAILER SNIPPETS. I never got on the bash bay bandwagon like other people did until I saw Transformers. I didn't give a fuck about him like that. I liked The Rock, loved The Rock actually, but hated every other movie he id save for the highway scene in Bad Boys II. But when it came to Transformers, every issue that I had with all his other movies, even The Rock, came full circle with Transformers. The scenes in that movie, even dialogue scenes such as that shit he calls comedy, are just horribly mangled and mismanaged. Vader, your dumbass actually thinks I'm judging this off of a fucking....come on man. Don't even insult yourself with thinking something that dumb. I'm not that dumb so why the fuck would you think something that dumb? Please believe you're in the midst of people smarter than that.
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Apr 18, 2009 12:34:18 PM CDT
Fuck this movie. I dislike everyone involved. I pray for failure
by dannyglovers_dickblood
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The only scene worth re-watching is the sequence with Starcream taking on the fighter jets. The rest is incomprehensible shit. And what little action that video had to offer gave me the same vibe, tbh, so I'm still not really interested at all.I will admit Bumblebee had some nice comic timing in his scene though. Had me laughing at least twice, which is twice as much of a response than I've ever had to this franchise.
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I didn't sue the word admit or "admit" to anything. I said Bay, in the audio commentary, in fucking interviews you can find posted on Youtube, in paragraphs in articles related to the development of the first transformers movie,has repeatedly said and stated that he did not want to make the first movie. Why do I have to be admitting to anything other than pointing out what I read and heard and saw Michael Bay said?
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My point about you was that you were criticizing the action scenes of the 2nd film, and I quote: "it's my problem with this second one." Oh I'm sorry, I had no idea you'd already seen the second movie. But since you've mentioned it, I assume all your criticisms following a statement such as that have to do with your opinion on the 2nd films action sequences. You're not that dumb? You could have fooled me with your half-thought out arguments and posts on here.
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Apr 18, 2009 12:40:11 PM CDT
And no joke. That looks fucking horrible.....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
.....in every way a film can possibly look horrible. Who the fuck writes this shit? What planet are they from? It doesn't feel like anyone with actual human emotion has anything to do with these films. Shia screaming OPTIMUUUUUUUUUUUUS!! Oh wow. That really just did it for me. Their relationship is just so touching. That right there convinced me I must see this film. And the Meghan Fox whore changing outside, those quick jump cuts, WHAT THE FUCK is up with that? Everything about this film feels pathetic and desperate, like someone bragging about how many friends they have. There are stupid/entertaining films and then there is soulless shit like this. Unfuckingbelievable people fall for this shit time and time again.
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Back at cha. I wouldn't make a correctable comment on the internet. I didn't say the FIRST movies. The ones I was thinking of. Empire, Jedi, and Aliens. I know when, Vader, come on. On to play some resident evil 5. Look, anyone, everyone, no hard feelings. I hope you all have a good day.
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You sure seem to know a lot about its development. You used his director's commentary as an example- NOT what he's said in interviews posted on YouTube, so don't you dare bring that up as an example. Sure I jumped to conclusions about you owning a DVD, but it sure seems funny that someone who hated the movie so much would know what was said in the commentary. Strange too that he would look up interviews on YouTube.
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Back on to the topic at hand. For those like me who did not get the love for the first transformers we just have to concede that it was not made with us in mind and Transformers 2 is probably going to break several box office records. THAT IS ALL. Now go back to arguing and using out of date black slang that only white guys who still watch MTV use.
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Big fucking Robots hitting each other and Megan Fox yanken'em off. Yessir. What more could you ask for from this? Mr Mikey Bay, make more, please.
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Danny you are absolutely correct, but if you read this thread you will see that this pile of dogshit will make a billion dollars worldwide.
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INteresting enough to watch 1 time....unbearable for anything after that....
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You backtrack your comments and arguments and attempt to retcon them. "Oh, I SAID this, but I REALLY meant THIS, therefore your reply is moot." Arguments and debates don't rely on intentions, they rely on what's said. Someone said Star Wars and Alien. You said they were made in the 70s. No one said anything about Empire or Aliens. Therefore, your statement was incorrect, as I pointed out. You can't backtrack and say you meant the sequels. Mean what you say and say what you mean. And if you make a mistake, own up to it.
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Apr 18, 2009 12:43:07 PM CDT
I watch interviews about films I hate all the time.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Its entertaining to try and get into the head of people who made such an epic fuck up.
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-not to kill Optimus.
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Apr 18, 2009 12:44:18 PM CDT
I don't doubt this will do very well. I'm not delusional.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Its pretty hilarious.
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He seems to get awfully worked up over something he hates.
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Because it reduces him from ass-kicking autobot to little more than a pet who can't stand it when his master leaves him at home.
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Apr 18, 2009 12:46:48 PM CDT
Do I obviously......I'm supposed to be playing RE5!!
by whothefuckcares
Do I obviously sound like a fan, a generation one die hard as grrr would paint me out? Yes. I mean, I'm on a TRANSFORMERS TALKBACK on AIN'T IT COOL NEWS. Of COURSE I would follow this shit or have some passing knowledge of the franchise and this movie series development. When did I even remotely come close to implying I WASN'T a fan of this shit? Why did you imply that I said I wasn't a fan or I wasn't interested? Where and when? Anyway, I tried to amend it some what and say hope you all have a good day. Let's leave it at that. Even if you respond, I know you currently are, I still stand on my goo day wishes. I rather get arthritis playing RE5 or, or whatever. Maybe I'd rather but, but, I can't keep this shit up all day long. Weather's too warm. Might go see crank. laugh out loud.
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How the hell can the CG imagery look even better than the first one? ILM and DD are composed of wizards and Jedi. Also, FMB has converted me. After seeing that footage, I, too, now want to fuck Michael Bay. While wearing FMB like a Snuggie.
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Yes, good idea. Get out, play some games and relax. Let that heart rate come down.
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I'm sure there are plenty others on here too who feel the same way.
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I'm one!
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I actually agree with Danny. I think it's time i re-evaluate the first movie.....nah it was still shit and this one looks like more of the same shit.
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Excellent!
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too bad his movies suck. there's no denying that the action here looks great, but we're gonna be getting more of that crap we saw before it turned into the teaser hybrid. you know, the acting and the talking and the story. it's not just all gonna be awesome action for 147 minutes. promise you that. michael bay's films are so easy to sell in a 2:30 trailer format. so f'n easy. but man, are his films painful to watch.
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Which is why I didn't respect talking to you to begin with. This is just another movie to you. It could be called Bride Wars and you'd still respond the same. That's why I can't take what YOU say seriously because I know you don't give a fuck about transformers or this or that or any other shit that fans care about. That people who come here care about. And I'm retconning my thoughts and statements? Who am I John Byrne? When I said audio commentary I didn't say or type but I meant his overall interviews as well. The fucking COMMENTARY is a form of interview. The movie is the question, or the interviewer , if you will. The movie, the question, or the interviewer, gives Bay or the or a director something to respond to. An article in a newspapers or magazine that quotes him. His thoughts on coming to make the movie and reasoning behind it. You ain't fucking with anyone. I'd respond the same if it was Danny who was saying this. But then I wouldn't have to 'cause obviously Danny feels the same way even if he ribs me a little or were to rib me.
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Another movie for preteens...
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And the other one bitching about being rusty etc. C'mon you can tell Bay is having fun w/ this as far's he can.
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I hope they have another moment like this when Shia becomes a man all over again and some military douche bag says some rousing patriotic shit like that. AND MORE FUCKING AIRCRAFT CARRIERS!! AMERICA = FUCK YEAH
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Loved the toys though. I think the only Transformers cartoon I ever watched seriously and consistently was the first Beast Wars incarnation. I do own the animated movie though.
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Look, I'm a fan of the first film, so of course I give a fuck about the sequel. I want to have fun watching the new one, just as I had fun watching the first one. And you never said anything about interviews or newspaper articles- you said DIRECTOR'S COMMENTARY, which implies you've seen the commentary. "When I said audio commentary I didn't say or type but I meant his overall interviews as well." Sorry, but things don't work like that. Like I said before, say what you mean and mean what you say. If you implied something else and everyone misunderstood bc what you *said* was crystal clear, but your intent was muddled, then you should apologize, not insult everyone for not reading your mind.
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omg omg such a hueg fan !!11!!
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One of the Transformers will die, but not before he's able to raise the American flag, proudly waving in the wind, on top of a hill of rusted metal and junk as a rallying cry for all the freedom fighters, human and robot alike, to continue on the good fight.
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Click the HD link in the video. Megatron, Starscream, and Blackout vs Optimus in the forest; Devastator looks absolutely incredible; Bumblebee "crying" made me LOL, especially the "give me a sec" gesture; Bumblebee fighting something that has Bonecrusher's head; I think that's Soundwave Optimus is chasing through the building. I may as well move into the IMAX theater here in June.
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Reminded me of Jessie Spano.
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I fucking love that ending-- the music punches right on the MICHAEL BAY title card. Its fucking epic and wonderful and everything a good film should be. And I love the fact that those final shots of Shia and Tranny Whore laying on the hood of the car with robot guys standing there gazing out into the sunset, and it somehow looks like a fucking Join The Marines commercial. I don't know why, but it does. The end of Transformers makes me want to fucking enlist and scream "BRING IT!" just like Baby Boy Tyrese. Fuckin' killer.
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Same here, can't really remember the cartoon. Watched Beast Wars though. Wait, I'm going to get flamed for that? OK!
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...cartoon I mean the G1 stuff people get a hard on for.
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Yes, you and everyone else has the right to their opinions. I think people's problem with yours is not that you said it, but rather how you said it. Calling others names and using every expletive you can think of to get your opinion across automatically makes you look like a net troll or flamer. You stated your opinion in an inflammatory way, and with every response to it you have responded with more venom and bile, calling people douchebags and whatnot. Sorry to say, buddy, but when you act like that on an IMB, especially on an AICN talkback, you instantly get labeled the douchebag and invite hundreds to attempt to egg you on. It's the nature of the beast on these boards (just ask DGDB). Now if, next time, you can present your opinion in a thoughtful, constructive manner, I doubt you'll get all the hate directed toward you. But if you're gonna act like an immature troll on here, then prepare to be blasted and ridiculed. Again, nature of the beast.
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Is that a wedding dress that Fox is wearing?
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The worst part of this footage, which by the way owns your grandfather's fucking moustache, is that for some reason Megan Fox decides to take...OFF her all leather fuckme outfit for a dainty boring as balls white dress. Other than that, BRING THIS THE FUCK ON! Michael Bay owns your 14 dollars this summer! DEAL WITH IT!
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Apr 18, 2009 1:12:31 PM CDT
Thoughtul and constructive opinion? Fuck that.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
I come here for entertainment.
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During battle sequences, like when Scorponok pops out and impales another soldier, he's like "Whoa, MOTHA!" and that's it. I get the feeling Bay let him go wild and then was like "Oops wait, this is a Spielbergian flick."
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Soundwave is like a witchdoctor who looks after Megatron
There is a Decepticon Civil War between Starscream and Megatron loyalists
The creation matrix is ripped from Optimus and given to Megatron
Optimus Prime dies (I think, I'll have to check that)
Megatron kicks Starscreams ass
There's an EMP device in Las Vegas designed to shut down the TFs but its destroyed before it can be used.
Hot Rod is an ass
Megan Fox is presumed dead but she is found alive at the very end, having been protected by a dying Optimus
The movie pretty much ends with Megatron winning, setting up TF3.
All this is from a treatment for the movie...I don't know if it's real or fake or what...probably fake or if it's real, it's very early since The Fallen is nowhere to be found.
If it is real why am I sharing it? Cuz I fucking hated the first movie and want to save you all the pain of the second.
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Apr 18, 2009 1:16:22 PM CDT
Kaiser Soze -- whothefuck appears homosexual to you?
by dannyglovers_dickblood
I don't get that observation. You called him a flamer. You should apologize.
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Rimshot.
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i remember when the movie came out and start smashing the boxoffice,there was one hater in the talkback,who was not only using the movies commercial success in order to prove its pooor quality,but furthermore he wrongly insisted that the movie flopped.
ofc the numbers of tickets sold for a movie doesnt say anything about its quality,but jesus christ if u are going to use that arqument,at least use it in a movie which has indeed flopped.
haha what a wanker
the other lovable stupid thing i heard from some haters,was that the movie was racist towards black people.why? because the best hacker was a black man.
let me rephrase that.one of the worlds smartest men,who is not a criminal (nothing at all like the villain hacker in the DIE HAR D4 movie),who decrypts the super endcoded message in a matter of seconds and at the end helps to save planet earth,that man being a black man makes the movie racist.
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....I would have been trashing that piece of shit for weeks. I'm consistent. And I enjoy going up against a world of dumb shits.
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because the best hacker of the world
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you are correct sir, my mistake
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be my guest.nothing better than laughing with the stupidity of people in these talkbacks.one of the main reasons to visit them regularly.
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just meant he was trying to start a flame war on the board
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I can't believe people who discuss a Transformers movie by Michael Bay as if there were some theoretical alternative Transformers movie to be made that would be a serious, thoughtful movie about cars that turn into giant robots and fight. Say that phrase over and over till it sinks in: "cars that turn into giant robots and fight." There is not a Godfather II in that sentence. Shakespeare ain't pickin' up that phone.
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Apr 18, 2009 1:23:51 PM CDT
Personal opinions that differ with yours is a "Stupid Argument"?
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Haha.ominus = COWARD
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Could it be? The female lead is FLAT, as in her acting style. All she can do is take off her clothes.
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He said someone's personal opinion that Transformers was racist bc the black guy was a hero was a stupid argument for why the movie was bad. You gotta admit, that IS a stupid argument.
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said that their original idea about a death race movie,was that it would take place after the original movie in the far future and that it would have futuristic cars like cars which went invincible,flying cars and transformer type cars.
unfortunately because the movie would have been very expensive it didnt happen.
now that is something i would like to have happened.transformers meet death race.
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Apr 18, 2009 1:32:57 PM CDT
I said I've always hated the film. Ominus responded....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
...."As long as you use stupid arguments. Be my guest. Nothing better than laughing with the stupidity of these arguments." As if insinuating the racism thing was my argument. I think that shit is retarded. I don't agree with it. I just think the movie sucks dick in every way a film can suck dick. Racism would have made it more interesting.
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i am talking about constructive dialogs.i love differentiation,if we all agreed on everything,life would have been less interesting,dont u think?
but please try to think logically and use valid arguments when you set your personal opinion about a specific subject,opposite someones else.
most of the haters unfortunalety are either idiots or too fanatics in order to think clearly and talk in a civilized,mature and logical way.i gave 2 specific examples on this matter.
capis?
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...I'm done.
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= Flames on Optimus
= Nipples on Batman
= Crying Bumblebee
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That's the show where nearly every major character has these amazing magical abilities. Yet, all they want is to be left alone to live normal, boring lives...like everyone else.
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just like Michael Bay does on a regular basis!
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Remember when Robot Chicken was funny? That was a long time ago.
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spielberg was advising bay when he was making the first movie.spielberg is a very smart entertainer and knows what the american audience want to see.and i am sure the told bay how to treat the robot characters in the movie.that jewish is very clever,thats why he is the no1 commercial director in hollywood.
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I REALLY think that Bumblebee is being intentionally melodramatic in that scene, and his "tears" are just another way to ham it up to Sam to show his displeasure.
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lol!
"I can't believe people who discuss a Transformers movie by Michael Bay as if there were some theoretical alternative Transformers movie to be made that would be a serious, thoughtful movie about cars that turn into giant robots and fight. Say that phrase over and over till it sinks in: "cars that turn into giant robots and fight." There is not a Godfather II in that sentence. Shakespeare ain't pickin' up that phone."
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I decided to walk out of the first one. I was squirming in my seat the time I was there. Then the pissing happened, and my buddy and I mutually decided to just walk out.
I was hoping that Michael Bay would have a scene in this movie where a movie projector turns into a robot and starts raining shit down onto the audience below. The robot could have BAY written on it.
This looks as idiotic and almost exploitive as possible. A robot crying? The girl stripping in one of what is certainly many similar moments. The same jumbled designs. Yep...definately avoiding this one, but it doesn't come as a surprise. -
Man, his girlfriend has him p-whipped. Which, I guess I can understand. But I wonder how much of that "I want to be normal" was really "I want to get laid, and I have a chance with this b***h who just wants to control me." Doesnt he realize he can pull a mountain of tail with the coolest car ever. Dump that broad.
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First one sucked with all the faggoty ass attempts at humor and this doesn't look like it's going to be any different. More robots and less or no humans. I'll pass.
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I like a good battle. And a TB seething with hatred and vile disagreement gets my dick hard. But there needs to be some sort of focus and maturity to balance the war. Its no fun when someone is repeatedly posting "TRANSFORMERS IS THE GREATEST FILM EVER MADE," or "MICHAEL BAY EATS TRANNY COCK" over and over again. I like an intelligent back and forth with balls.
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I can't believe how bad this fuckin movie is already...why wouldn't he take a TRANSFORMING GIANT FUCKING ROBOT to school with him? Fuck you Michael Bay, and damn you to hell for ruining all that was right with the world!!!!!
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Apr 18, 2009 1:46:41 PM CDT
Yeah the stripping things sums it up, like I said = TACKY.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
How the fuck do you justify that? This is supposed to be some warm, loving moment and we just have to see jump cuts of her taking it off? Pathetic. Its such a "LOOK AT ME!" approach to filmmaking.
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or was a transformer doing a Yoda impression, complete with walking stick!, jesus freaking christ! lol.
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Damn, this looks cool!!!
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Apr 18, 2009 2:03:02 PM CDT
How dare they turn a 30 mniute TV commerical into a Summer Block
by gornpirate
My childhood is raped! Boohoo! At the tender age of 35 I might just have to move out of my mother's basement and get a real fucking life and quit playing with my toys.
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Megan Fox is still fucking hot
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SAM: You know, son, I once had a car that could change shape into a giant talking robot.SAM'S SON: You did?SAM: Yup. His name was BumbleBee. He was like my protector...and he was my friend.SAM'S SON: What happened to him, Dad?SAM: Well, I eventually told him to take a hike. You see, I wanted to go off to college, drink lots of beer, get laid, all that kind of stuff.SAM'S SON: Dad, you should have kept him!SAM: What for? I enjoy riding the bus.
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Apr 18, 2009 2:10:56 PM CDT
I'M SO EXCITED! AND I JUST CAN'T HIDE IT! I'M SO....SCARED!!!!
by my_blue_penis
Oh Jessie.....
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Oh yeah Megan Fox is fucking hot. Oh yeah the action is all over the fucking place. But you still won't be able to understand a damn thing going on, you'll get out of the cinema with a fucking headache, and this crying scene... FUCKING KIDDIE RIDICULOUS.
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what, with a blubbering bumblebee, megan fox stripping off for no apparent reason in the middle of an 'emotional' scene (not that I'm complaining), and a transformer with a walking stick speaking like a geriatric cockney? And why the fuck would you not want to take a transforming robot with you to college? stuff like that can get you laid. what a dumb cunt.
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To say that Bumblebee was intentionally crying to create melodrama, would mean that Michael Bay understands the word nuance. Nuance for Bay is five seconds for a close-up of Megan Fox's ass instead of ten.
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Hopefully Optimus' hero character totally shines through in this one.
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would a movie about TRANSFORMING ROBOTS FROM SPACE appeal to teens instead of sophisticated adults? Gosh darn you, Michael Bay. We should all go and pray for the TRANSFORMING ROBOTS FROM SPACE version of Winter Light.
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Really does.
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I skipped most of these posts and now I see that someone else suggested a Bergman transformers.
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And a triumphant return in the third film.
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I've been in lots of Talkbacks with you, I know what you're capable of. Are you really telling us you didn't hear Shia say HE CAN'T take Bumblebee with him to college? I'm amazed how many people gloss over this very obvious point to criticize the film. Not saying you are, maybe you did miss it... but, really?
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Yawn.... bring on TREK and TERMINATOR 4.
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Apr 18, 2009 2:31:18 PM CDT
TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION -- you really disapoint me.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
You used to combat mindless shit like this. It really saddened me to hear you say this shitty ass clip of Bumblebee crying was worthy of your "TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION" praise.
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That clip is great. Sure the first one was pop-corny. It made bank. This one could kick ass. It might not be pearlharborish. Give MBay one more chance at least a holes. Do we have to dis every fucking thing!
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I think it works. Its a good angle. I'm glad they're playing it.
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you mean terminator 3, the one with Bale.
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Michael Bay Bwn's You All.
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And wears a mean black cape, too. Seriously--this is about Big Fucking Robots that turn into trucks, cars and planes, they hit each other and make things go BOOM. That's--it, really. The fact that Mikey Bay can actually make this watchable and give us madame Fox at the same time-what's not to like here? I liked the Yoda bot myself.
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Michael Bay makes this watchable? Speak for yourself, pal.
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Apr 18, 2009 3:02:02 PM CDT
the action and robots look alot better
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
scenery looks good too. but that crying scene? fucking awful.
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On Sam's girl. Sam wasn't happy about it. He had to make an excuse. I mean isn't it kind of creepy having sex with your chick inside a male alien robot pretending to be a car?
Granted they made out on his chest/hood at the end of the first one- while Optimus gave that heart felt speech.
Sam was all like, shut up Op!!!
You're ruining the mood... I'm trying to get my Witwicky wet over here...
What the fuck no... Stop crying on my Jeans Bee. That's not what I meant.
Rachet: I believe the boy is referring to genital interaction.
Sam: Maybe you guys can go work on each other, exchange parts, watch a movie at a drive in, anything.. Just leave me and my Girl- here, alone for a few hours. OK
Sam: Here's her cell phone. I'll call it when we need you guys to come pick us up. Let a Playa, play. You domo arigato my roboto? Here's some gas money. See you in a few hours. You kicked evils ass. Go get some me time with out me or something. Thanks. -
Apr 18, 2009 3:09:24 PM CDT
NOOOOO FOSTERS HOME GOT CANCELLED
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
NO!!!
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Ass raped by Golden compass at the oscars! Hopefully this one gets the statue for effects.
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That pissed me off.
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One close up shot of Optimus with a faceplate in the first movie???? ONE????!!!! Fucking hell Bay. I get you're not that smart and think there is this need to show emotion, fine, but please give us a few minutes at least with the faceplate. Remember the most famous robot of all time R2D2 had no problem emoting and he didn't have a face.
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....and then end the movie.
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They are very similar and defining.
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Apr 18, 2009 3:39:34 PM CDT
avatar is gonna win for fx this year sorry folks
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
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Dickblood wasn't around and some of the shit was fucking hilarious.
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I can't believe the passion that Transformers has inspired among so many people, whether it be for or against. To me, Michael Bay has been a part of it since Day 1. You need to come to terms with that. This isn't even like Star Wars where George Lucas used to have a better eye for that thing and then completely lost sight of it. It's ALWAYS been Michael Bay and his sensibilities. Unfortunately, some of you will probably never see the Transformers movie that you want to see if this isn't doing it for you. There comes a time to let go and move on. I just don't know how much ranting can possibly be done.I personally loved the first movie, I'm sure I'll love this one too. Because sometimes I just enjoy mindless action. That's not to say that those who hate it are in the wrong, you're not. You have every right to hate it. But it's fucking retarded to try and make the argument that those who do love it are stupid. This is a franchise now and it's gonna keep happening every couple of years probably. Here's to hoping that it doesn't drive anyone too insane.
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U guys seen State of play yet? Great movie, very riveting! I think being in Yuma with Bale did wonders for Crowe's acting.
It Pays To Praise Bale. -
If I could get my girlfriend to want to actually go out to a theater, that is. Ah well, may be me going to the theater alone with this one. May the spirit of Bale guide me.
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Took him to see the clusterfuck that was part 1 then he saw the original series....when the first was released on dvd he rewatched it and had a totally different opinion. Now he'd rather get the whole original series than watch these flicks. He's taller than most kids his age and pretty popular, you bet your ass he's converting other kids too.
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And your provocative posting style isn't? Everything about you is "LOOK AT ME". I'm not saying that I'm not entertained by your act, but it's really hypocritical for you label someone as an attention whore.
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That's some of the funniest stuff I've read in a TB ever.
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stop apologizing.
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"He's taller than most kids his age and pretty popular, you bet your ass he's converting other kids too." Wow, your son is taller and more popular so he knows his shit? Fucking hell. I guarantee 70% of kids who go to school with your kid are smarter.
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Seriously, I knew what you meant. I wasn't insulting you or your viewpoint. I, personally, think if we lost his helmet spikes, or ears, his crown, whatever you want to call it- THAT would be far more detrimental to the iconography of his character than the face plate is.
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I want my Megas XLR movie!
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Apr 18, 2009 4:02:00 PM CDT
I just don't understand why it has to look and sound so stupid..
by fisheatingjoe
Why do some find it ok that because the subject matter is giant robots it can be complete fluff? Surely we all saw the Iron Giant. Saw what Nolan did with a guy that dresses up like a bat. Heck professional wrestling just got the treatment of a talented director.
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I hold sway over other kids' minds! I know what the fuck I'm talking about!
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what the fuck does height have to do with anything. You sound like you're 8 years old yourself, thinking taller kids are better, making fun of shorter kids. That's fucking retarded.
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I take offense!
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In a hot whore sandwhich of Megan Fox and Odette Yustman. Man, I would have to think of Hillary Clinton in a thong to keep from blowing my wad before my pants were even unzipped.
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but then when the action started it got half decent. Here's hoping the 2nd builds on the momentum. Less people, and more robots with emotion and personality, please.
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if only the movie ejected the whole story with Shia. every second humans are exchanging that fake sounding dialogue is painful. the humor is equally painful.
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Or that I'm saying anyone is better than anyone. Kid wanted to see the flick so I took him. Was interested in the original material and was showed it. He likes the original material better, and when other kids express enthusiasm over the sequel he tells him why he and his friends likes the original cartoon better. when his other "dorkier" friends hype up the cartoon they get slammed. Because he has a better social standing than some of his friends other kids are more willing to listen to his input and see his side of things. Don't read more into it than that.
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Movies that aren't worth watching? Indy 4, Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones. They just suck, there is nothing good to see in those movies. But movies like Watchmen and Transformers, while not being perfect by any stretch, are still interesting to watch.
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That was quite entertaining. At least you have the balls to go against the grain. And it's not just because I agree with quite a bit of what you had to say. Personally, I'd rather be insulted for having an unpopular opinion then for being a suck up.
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The idea of Bumblebee crying aside, the interaction between human and giant fucking robot seems much more improved and more natural. The fights in the natural settings look vastly more interesting than the fights in the first movie. I'm looking forward to this one and it should be just as goos if not better than the first one. It wasn't Shia or flames on Optimus, or any of the robots that upset me about the first one. It was John Turturro and Jon Voight with their shitty overacting that did. Otherwise, I had no complaints about the first one.
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(sorry, had to repost. Apparently I can't fucking spell "good" today.)
The idea of Bumblebee crying aside, the interaction between human and giant fucking robot seems much more improved and more natural. The fights in the natural settings look vastly more interesting than the fights in the first movie. I'm looking forward to this one and it should be just as good if not better than the first one. It wasn't Shia or flames on Optimus, or any of the robots that upset me about the first one. It was John Turturro and Jon Voight with their shitty overacting that did. Otherwise, I had no complaints about the first one. -
It's the same reason that a LOT of literary devices get used over and over - it's convenience, and control of the story. It's the same reason child heroes are orphans (so you don't have to deal with parent characters who would, naturally and rightly, refuse to let them go on quests and therefore needlessly complicate the story), or kids on tv are living with single dads (so the dad can get into romantic entanglements and meet new people and have interesting things to do instead of the same characters in a closed circle - it gives an outside influence and the creates the illusion of change being possible), or why older kids go off to college before having big adventures (see child hero orphans above). The reason everybody in these shows just craves to be normal is that the more a character CHANGES as a result of a supernatural condition (super powers, an indestructible alien car) the farther removed the character gets from reality and the more the writer would need to articulate the reasons for these changes in order to write the charater. Plus, the character would become increasingly detached from the experiences of the audience. Therefore, if you write the character as DESIRING NORMALCY, it allows the audience to "connect" with the character's dissatisfaction with what he HAS, in the way that normal people wish for amazing abilities ... while also showcasing the fact that normal people are "ok" because, here, look, he's NOT better off with superpowers or a robot car; he's just like us! It's literary shorthand at its best (worst). There's no real crime to it - would you really ENJOY a two-hour movie in which the character spent the entire time saying "YEAH! KICKASS! MY OWN ROBOT CAR!' That would be EVIL DEAD 2, which would be entertaining for some, but not the majority of moviegoers, for whom a kid with an indestructible car who revels in the fact would seem alien and weird and kinda nerdy.
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So shoot me. Worst part of that movie for me was trying to keep track of just what the hell was going in the last battle. But should I chalk it up to too much action? In a giant robot movie? Nah, I'll just pay closer attention next time I see it with my kids. This looks like it will have my kids squealing with glee, and that is OK with me. Plus, Megan Fox. So it's got that going for it.
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Not gonna make that mistake again.
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http://www.thecinemasource.com/blog/2009/04/18/exclusive-showest-screen-grab-confirms-megatron-return-in-transformers-2/
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Crap.
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Lot of unfamiliar people squeeing.
Bay simply can't do funny. Not intentionally anyway. Even the kids will think Bumblestooge is a BIT fucking much.
I hope that ILM don't cheat as much in the transforms this time where they morph instead of using the actual cars and vehicles as the base. Likewise the superfast transforms were another pretty cheap trick but the CG does look better though it may have the same probs with "framing" the action as last time.
Fact is this is alll bout Giant Transforming Robots knocking the shit out of each other. Always was. always will be.
The problem was always how much Bay we had to endure in between Giant Robot Fights because Bay is fucking useless at plot and character and doesn't have any idea what subtlety is.
So yeah, bring on the Gaint Fighting Robots but don't pretend it's anything other than it is which is shit plot, shit acting, shit jokes, silly flashy visuals and most importantly, Giant Transforming Robots Fighting each other. -
as they look like Bionicles. Most of the Transformers are supposed to resemble samurai armor or some other type of Earth warrior/hero/rescue worker (Optimus is wearing a fire fighter's helmet).
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u are the perfect example of people that go brain dead when people start talking in movies..no robots, no explosions, no hot chicks, equals no brain activity, and cries of "filler" and "lazy writing".....and for all the TDK fans...stop comparing any action movie that comes out to TDK.. ur movie was a horible jumbled mess of a movie...made MI:2 look like it was in slow motion...if ledger dont steal the show, the movie goes down the tubes, quickly...buy it on DVD, watch it endlessly while u masturbate, or tell ur girlfriend that TDK is sexier than she is and swallows....
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It's just plain DUMB.
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with paid studio plants who only show up and post when Transformers is mentioned.
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Was Transformers the movie where some military guy power-slid a motorcycle underneath a giant robot and blew it up with a rocket launcher (or whatever), while a Mountain Dew vending machine terrorized the populace of a major metropolitan city? But this time it'll be better because the robots fight in the woods.
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This is what your ' reasoning ' looks like :
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Apr 18, 2009 5:25:20 PM CDT
Bumblebee + Spike == Most Important Characters in TF history!
by squashua
We all know it. Itchy, wretched, rusty my ass.
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I was a fan of the first movie and this footage looked pretty good. That said, I think the rifftrax for Transformers is one of the funniest, but it's a fun way to burn two hours. I'll be in line for this one.
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There are lots of new names bc Harry opened registration again. There are new, unfamiliar names in EVERY FUCKING TALKBACK.
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Apr 18, 2009 5:35:36 PM CDT
my son is popular and better than your son
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
also, my dad can beat up your dad.
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Can't wait for TF3,TF4,TF5.....
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Who's the Transformer with the cane? If they can put more character into the robots like that, this movie will be better than the first.
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AMAZING. Roll on June!
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SFX are fine, as in the first TF, but anyone who thought anything of that "dialogue" between Shia and the robot was interesting is a moron. And i am not talking of it being "funny", because if you think that, you're just a total idiot or braindead (your choice). Stupid movies are for stupid people, and even stunning Megan Fox doesn't help anything about that.
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I suppose I am guilty of that to an extent. If I wanted to be mild mannered and polite I could probably force myself to make it happen. But where's the fun in that? I come here to bitch and ramble about movies I like, but mainly movies I don't like. Its more entertaining.
I converse about random shit like CUNTS, FIST FUCKING, and NECROPHILIA. I suppose my post style is on par with Bay's Transformers; loud, aimless, and existing for the sole purpose of hearing myself make noise. -
"We're just getting started on the storyboards, but I've already got a lot of really contrived ideas about zooming in way too close and shooting everything at nauseating angles,"
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...and leave the other shit at the door. Im so fucking tired of people acting acting like the only reason others hated TF1 is that it wasn't close enough to the cartoon, while ignoring the majority of the "haters'" valid points as to why the movie sucked on it's own merits regardless of whatever was on tv. I'm not quite old enough to really know much about the original cartoon apart from the toys I played with. Beast wars was more my time frame, so trust me when I say that I really couldnt give a fuck about plot or character's relationship continuity. What I care about is badass robot on robot action.
I hated the first movie. Now let me state this; I think most michael bay movies suck on a level similar to NASCAR. However, when I heard he was directing transformers, my initial response was not negative, but rather, I thought he was the perfect man for the job. I was excited to see spectacle and destruction on a (literally) massive scale. What we got in TF1 was about twenty minutes of this and another hour of shitty, laughable (not to be confused with funny, because let's face it, this was preschool humor and adults admitting to laughing at it is almost on par to admitting retardation), horribly cliched and unoriginal shit. I don't want nor expect shakespearian drama or even actual seriousness, but I didn't pay to see recycled bits of Armageddon and independance day, mixed with Disney channel-caliber teen bullshit and a dash of robots. Goddamnit, it's a fucking transformers movie, giant robots fighting are not an ingrediant, they're the main course! Label me a hater all you want, but shit with sprinkles on top still tastes like shit.
As for this new one, there's been a lot of talk that MB's hands were kind of tied with the first movie, which might account for weak writing replacing strong action. Jesus I fucking hope so, because I need me some baddass robot action. However, if the movie is just more of the same shit like the first scene of this little "sneak peak" leads me to believe, then fuck Michael Bay indeed. But, if the second half of the reel is the better gist of the movie, then count me in. Hating on Michael Bay is warranted when it's earned (see pearl harbor as a primary example of vindicated MB hate). -
That is about all I can say... and weep.
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You're right on there. Personally I can give a fuck about the cartoon or the toys. That feature film is convoluted dogshit. I expected a film that made some kind of sense, and fucking CG robots I liked and felt for and could maybe tell apart, and human characters I didn't fucking despise. Its actually very easy.
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Apr 18, 2009 6:34:30 PM CDT
I mean the cartoon feature is convoluted dogshit.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
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You're in an introspective mood today. It's kind of weird. Stop it. I want to go on hating you for mindless, all caps blather -- not agreeing with these cogent thought of yours. I've become very distrustful of change.
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I've totally detached from the idea that I will be seeing a real source/ self-respecting Transformers movie. It's like with The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, I watched them just as independent movies, with no "real" connection to the other movies in the canon. These Transformers movies have no connection to / concept with what Transformers really is. We just have to call it like it is. So, I'm not expecting to see Transformers this summer. Just a standard fair summer movie with robots. What a shame. The bastardization of Transformers. That scene with Bumblebee... I can't even put it into words. Just no comment. Sad.
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Maybe I'm just feeling good cause I'm heading out to see CRANK FUCKING 2 in a bit.
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its a fun movie. some awful acting but great action. i guess its a turn your brain off movie, something people dont want from star wars.
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Apr 18, 2009 6:55:29 PM CDT
I refuse to say a single bad thing about the SW prequels....
by dannyglovers_dickblood
....in a world where people are still defending Transformers.Peace.
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it was a goofy fuckin movie. i thought it had some good action, but then i relized you COULDNT FUCKING TELL WHAT WAS GOING ON.
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when i think of what this franchise could have been, it makes me weep.
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Funny to see Bumblebee using Frodo's voice to say "Sam." Nice.
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Unbelievable that people are swallowing this shit. Nobody has the fucking balls these days to stand up and say 'You know what, we're not gonna take this shit anymore.' Bay is a fucking hack, always has been, and The Rock was only watchable because it had Sean Connery in it, and let's face it, Shia Leboeuf AIN'T Sean Connery. The sad fact is that most of the great action directors like Cameron have been out of the game so long that young people are actually starting to hold MICHAEL FUCKING BAY up as the pinnacle of modern action cinema. I mean how fucking depressing is that. This guy is not worthy to lick the shit off John Woo or James Cameron's shoes and yet countless morons here are worshipping him. The guy's an asshole. I hate to jump on the Avatar bandwagon, but I cannot wait until December when a real action director returns to show these cunts how it's done. And for all the idiots saying 'oh i know the story sucks but the action will be great...' NO. Transformers did NOT have good action sequences - just because a lot of shit blew up does not make it good action. Good action is about editing, pacing, geography and choreography. It doesn't matter how much shit blows up if there's a cut every half second and the camera shakes as though operated by a drunken cripple. Even the Transformers themselves sucked. Remember when you could buy actual Transformers toys that REALLY transformed? When you could actually see HOW they transformed, and what became what. Well not anymore, folks. No now we have three stages. Stage 1: Car. Stage 2: Incomprehensible CGI scribble. Stage 3: Giant Hulking Robot. I mean, seriously it's like those old Loony Toons cartoons where Wile E. Coyote would turn into a puff of dust and arms and then BAM he's built an ACME Jet Propelled Pogo Stick. Fucking pathetic. Oh, and no - I won't be seeing this one on opening day. I'll save my money for something worth it.
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... but I'll be there on the opening weekend, just like every other drone. I do this shit every summer, I see every summer movie that's remotely interesting and not made by Fox. It's like a fucking trance man, but I still hate 90% of the shit I see during the summer... Fucking can't wait for the Summer to be over, and it hasn't even started...
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I feel vindicated. Me and like seven other talkbackers stood alone against a throng of a complete fucking imbeciles for months talking, in excrutiating detail, about why it was a terrible film taht didn't even work ont he level of "but it was fun!". Listening over and over again to these ungodly apologist arguments that hold no water. I see a lot less of that apologist scum around defending this movie. I guess they are all too busy defending Zac fucking Efron.
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= THIS IS SPARTA = I AM BEOWULF = ANGRY YELLING
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was that the story unfolded with no great interest, strong emotion, cool new twists, or slap your face intensity. This new scene in the toolshed (which looks like some art directors $$$ dream) plays like a fake lame Disney kids afternoon show. An example of a kids concept movie that does push the above mentioned good stuff would be ET, or for teenagers ALIENS, or pushed a little more high brow with wow gadget/effects factor The Matrix... macho force done kids style would be Predator... cartoon would be any Pixar... You know a great story is like Star Trek II, a bad unimaginative story would be Star Trek III, and a sickeningly pandering dumb story would be Star Trek IV... wait.. my mind is wandering... what was I talking about? Oh yeah, Fox is a fox.
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Because why the fuck not? I don't give a shit. This movie is about things exploding, and unabashedly so. Will I love it? Doubtful. Will I remember it for years and years? I'll probably forget most of it walking back to my car. But it looks big, flashy, and full of explosions, so sure, I'll be there.
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Jesus, give it a rest. The first movie was terrible. This one looks bad too. The cartoon was awesome. Those are just facts, dude. Quit bitching at people who don't like the SFX soup Michael Bay cook. If you like this garbage, fine, but at least accept it for what it is. Best FX? Are you serious? Tackiest FX, maybe. Or ugliest.
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That's what I meant to type. "SFX soup Michael Bay cooks up." I still can't believe there are people who think these robots looks like anything but a mess when they're fighting, but then I guess anyone old enough to remember G1 is too old for this new stuff...
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this one looks even more awesomer. i am a happy autobot.
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Looks AMAZING....say what you want...nobody does big crazy action like Bay...and this Bay on fucking steroids...
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will still be there on opening day, search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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--I'll say it again. Mikey_Bay was BORN to make movies about Giant Robots hitting Each Other. C'mon you know it's true. Now, personally--if they hired Kevin_Smith or Kerry Conrad or Cokey Tarentino to do the honors for this-sure I'd watch it. But I think in this case-if you're doing a franchise that is based on 25 year old Hasbro toys and the shitty toons that sold'em--you'd better be giving it to the guy that made Armageddon and Pearl Harbor. Why the fuck not? it's not like he's gonna be making Clerks III or the Hobbit. Though to be honest I think Bay's version of LOTR or View Askew would rock. I say that cause i'm like that and you know you agree.
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Some of you guys amaze me by how seriously you take offense to a movie about robots that transform into cars and other shit. I'm sure the movie could've been better, but, at the end of the day, who cares? In ten or twenty years someone's gonna come along and "reimagine" it anyway. And I'll probably watch that version and like it just as much.
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Bay should just quit making films and get into porn where he belongs. However, in his porn, you probably couldn't tell who is fucking who.
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What an amazing improvement. This will be like "Bad Boys 2", only that it won't suck. :)
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Dicks shooting lasers and shit. Anal penetration during a car chase. Boobs turning into spray missile launchers. I'd watch the shit out of that.
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And as if someone wanting to see for themselves, especially so they can out argue morons like you who would just say "You haven't seen it so how do you know!?", means anything. But I wont be waiting in line opening day. I'll probably download it. I have no desire whatsoever to see this crap on a big screen. I prefer non shallow bullshit for my 12 bucks.
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By bad movies - regardless of genre. I like goofy concepts - Evil Dead, Robocop, Starship Troopers, etc. - when they're done well. But the way some people can mindlessly slurp up this shit is just mind-boggling to me. And no, Cool Brittania, I won't be there opening weekend. I haven't paid to see a Michael Bay movie in the theater since Pearl Harbor. I saw the first Transformers on DVD and that was a fucking mistake. I won't make that mistake again...
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Whyt he fact that its based on a toy line or a cartoon holds no water before it actually rings in your thick apologist douche bag skull? Seriously how many times must that argument be made before people stop bringing up this fruitless bullshit? What kind of lab mice motherfuckers can't understand the simplicity of that?
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Because I love movies. Especially genre films that are rich in character, imagination, and pure of vision. And what really bothers me is more movies like that would get made if you assholes would STOP ACCEPTING LESS.
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Completely nailed him.
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you haters bitch and whine, you'll still see it..in one capacity or another.Otherwise, you can't bitch about it with proper vitriol can you?
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Seriously what do you think that means?
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I've watched this about 6 times now, but I can't pause it in the right spot. Is it Starscream or Jetfire choke-slamming Megatron on top of the building?
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You're full of shit.And nothing you say can or will change anything. The masses gets what the masses wants.
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People can't even hate "Batman and Robin", since it doesn't enter their minds. That's how bad it was(lol). Atleast Michael Bay blows shit up in style. :)
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Apr 18, 2009 8:25:27 PM CDT
Look..I know this isn't a Politically Correct, nor intelligent
by conspiracy
statement;
BUT THAT SHIT LOOKED GAY AS FUCKING FUCK! Crying fucking robots? Spitting out "teeth", Egypt, out of place, stupidly obvious shots of Fox changing, ok..maybe I'll give that a pass, but it is still out of place and fucking stupid. This whole thing is just fucking Retarded...a movie made for, and obviously by, people who still throw rocks at windows and huff fucking paint. I mean really...CRYING FUCKING ROBOTS? There isn't a word in any language on this planet, nor I'd guess any other, that can adequately describe just how fucking silly that is. I was just gonna steal this movie, knowing it would suck, but now I don't think I'll waste the bandwidth. -
WTF was that?
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I grudgingly saw the first -- a friend of mine was in town and he insisted that we go see it, so he paid for everyone. I fell asleep near the end of the movie. He asked what I thought, and I didn't have the heart to be honest, considering he paid.
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but people act as if she is the end all be all of womankind. If you need to see her that badly, just search for pics, online.
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Apr 18, 2009 8:34:46 PM CDT
WhoDis, that thundercats shit is hilarious
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
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Apr 18, 2009 8:40:59 PM CDT
Megan Fox's tit's jiggling as she ran away from the Decepticons.
by leafar the lost
It was cool. They looked bigger in that scene. Didn't Michael Bay order her to gain 10 pounds? Yes, it shows. I guess she just stopped doing drugs prior to the shoot. Megan must be used to losing as much weight as possible prior to filming her movies. I am still obsessed with Megan Fox, so I can't be objective on her performance. I was the same way with Jessica Love Hewitt for the longest time, but now I can say that she sucks.
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Guys, I majorly dogged on the first movie, but I am not going to complain here at all. The first movie sucked because the transformers we saw had very little character. Now a bunch of people are up in arms that they are showing some actual character to these guys? ( I'm not talking about Bumblebee, but everyone else ). I actually thought the crying thing was a little over the top, but it's obvious they're making Bumble Bee's character be the one with all the little kid humor. I could watch 120 minutes of bumble bee's performance in that clip than be forced to endure another poop joke.
Really from the tiny clips we saw this is a step up IMHO.
Yeah the Megan Fox stripping thign is weird, but if you look at the hires verison of this footage, there's obiously alot we're missing here because Sam's house has burned down in the background. I'm just pissed this isn't glorious quicktime so we can step through each frame of footage :)
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Looks like Megan Fox has taken all of the talentless eye candy roles away from Jessica Alba.
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It's funny to read all the comments on there... one giant suckup fest. It's funny I sometimes wonder if AICN is too negative, you know like we're all a bunch of old geezers telling kids to get off the lawn, and then I go to a site like youtube or vimeo and realize how dumb and brainwashed the averge movie moron is and yearn for a page full of "plant" jokes and arguments over whether Terminator 2 sucks or not.
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It has Dinobots.
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Jetfire is the geriatric Transformer.
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I mean c'mon, nobody loves Zoidberg
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Megan Fox is hot, yes, I'll give her that, but she's merely the pretender to the throne of Jennifer Connelly. Can I get an amen?
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Damn You Michael Bay
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They can create a Transformer out of thin air. In the cartoon the characters were all alive for like 50 million years!!!!!!!!!! These ones get created on the spot. Cheapens every Transformer character in the film.
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she's changing into a wedding dress, whats weird about that? there's obviously stuff that happened before that scene to place it in context but even still. we see her change and they complain, i bet if she was dressed one way and then suddenly in the dress next time we saw her they'd complain that we didnt see her change.
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Jesus you fat fucking misanthropes, get a bucket of popcorn and shut the fuck up. This is not an epic property, its fucking transformers. Just let it be stupid and try to enjoy it.
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Yeah, her undressing is the only redeeming quality of that clip. They call it distraction. Have a scene that's retarded? Throw in tits and ass and nobody will notice how shitty it all is. Pretty blatant too, isn't it? That's the intelligence level MB expects of his fans.
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Apr 18, 2009 9:23:39 PM CDT
No Amen, MurderMostFowl, Jennifer Connelly stopped being...
by leafar the lost
...hot when she 100 pounds and her giant titties dissappeared. They must have weighed 20 pounds each. Have you seen her lately? In "The Rocketeer", I could not take my eyes away from her tit's. The movie made them look bigger somehow. Then, they vanished! Did she have a breast reduction? In the last movie I saw, her breasts looked as flat as Keira Knightly's chest. No, Megan Fox is ultra hot for the moment. She will get all of the hot roles for the next 2-3 years. Megan needs to save her money, but her career will not extend too far when she hit's her 30's. Megan is 22, so she has time to party. At around age 28 I advice her to marry a billionaire with no prenup. Then after 2 years divorce him and then start doing movies on Lifetime.
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Fail. BIG Fail.
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those poor employees are probably so sick of hack robots stories.
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It's a lobotomy stupid! It's not an elitist Harvard education so just accept it for what it is, and sit back and try to enjoy yourself. If you want to have fun in this world, you're going to have to engage in some good old fashioned American self destructive behavior. F*CK YEA!
Actually no, I don't want to learn to like a f*cking lobotomy. Go to hell.
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How come nobody's mentioned that before?
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same as the last movie, impressive effects welded to a retarded turd
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Even a great one. Perhaps even a great stunt coordinator in the Yakima Canutt mold. But he should never ever be allowed near actors or direct a dialogue scene. He just embarrasses himself and the actors.
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we're talking about the latter when discussing Transformers movies..Big robots and shit, yeh i can dig that - only thing worth talking about the first film..but the moronic dimwitted shit in between is purely for people who can't control their spit.
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Really guy--I don't care what you think about this, you REALLY don't care what I have to say---so seriously man-it's a movie about GIANT FUCKING ROBOTS, okay? TOYS! HASBRO! It'd be like getting fuckin' worked up about a Sugar Bear or King Lionel movie being fucked up. Seriously.
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And more transforming robots kicking ass please! The TV commercials had robots kicking ass. Adding anything else is missing the fucking point, especially if you're Michael Bay. I bet Megan Fox made Shia leave Bumblebee at home because otherwise she'd be less popular than Shia at college. So it's either pussy for Shia or the car... that's what that scene meant. As soon as Shia told Bumblebee he couldn't come, she stripped and made herself ready for Shia. That was the deal. The white dress indicates virginity. THe flowers the clue to the future deflowering... That's Michael Bay subtlty! So he's trying harder to make this film more artsy!
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I'm supposed to wade through all of this inhumanity to doublecheck first? ha
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I'm supposed to wade through all of this inhumanity to doublecheck first? ha
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That was fucking awesome! now i find myself just wanting to watch the whole damn thing right now!
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i don't actually believe the robot is actually crying, nor do i really think Sam want him to go.... Everyone gets sick of their friends.... and this IS bublebee's style of wise cracking. fuck'yas i love it
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10-13 year old's that post on this talk back. I can't figure anyone who is over that age could POSSIBLY think the first movie, with all the pee jokes and Herbie The Love Bug jokes could possibly find it entertaining. I'm not one that grew up on the cartoon, or played with the toys. I went to it thinking it would be a cool action movie with large robots beating the crap out of each other. Unfortunately, what I ended up seeing was a juvenile comedy targeting 10 year old's!! The movie was complete garbage. There was part of me thinking the writers (whom I'm fond of) would LEARN from the crappy first film, and leave out the crappy juvenile jokes. Seeing this short bit, I was mistaken, so therefore this movie will NOT get one cent from me. Go ahead and see it people. I will say this though. If you see this movie, and actually like it, then I don't want to see ONE post from you complaining about how Hollywood doesn't make good movies anymore. If you support garbage like this, then you get EXACTLY what you deserve, and that's more crap films.
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Who thinks that a shitty story can be held up by great visual effects is someone who's opinion on movies I don't care to hear.
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Seriously. Where is the artistic integrity these days? How am I supposed to connect with the feature-length toy commercial when shitty ass directors like Michael Bay are working? Didn't the film industry learn when Transformers made a fuck-ton of money? They need to start listening to guys on message boards of movie geek websites. We don't want this artless product placement. We want forced sexual penetration in our ocular cavities by directors whose only concern is that we experience ART. We don't want to buy the shitty Michael Bay product that has no impact on our lives, we want to buy the James Cameron product that has no impact on our lives. We're willing to pay an extra $3-5 for a pair of plastic sunglasses for the sake of ART.
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Where did I ever attack anyone for NOT liking the movie? Look it up- I never did. I started antagonizing one particular TBer bc he was acting like a whiney bitch. But did I ever insult him for his opinion? No, I insulted him for the way he expressed his opinions and for his poor arguing skills. So step off, ya jerk.
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Good show, old chap.
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AWESOME!!!
I love how Bumblebee is whining and crying like a toddler and/or a pet after being the courageous soldier in the first film
I love it even more that he can't speak again after getting his voice randomly back at the end of the first movie.
I love Megan Fox's character stripping outside to change into the dress
I love how Bumblebee cries with gushing tears! It's so funny for the kids and it'll make the movie so much better for them... they're definitely buy more Hasbro toys because of it
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And Rachel McAdams > Megan Fox. She's hot and everything, but not only is she just eye candy but those tats diminish even her eye candy worth imo. Why would you have such a lameass passage on the side of your body written so large is beyond me. Is she still with green? Cuz I heard his show got cancelled. Well at least he has more time to audition for Riddler and Green Lantern
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That scene makes fuck all sense. "Yeah, I want to have a normal life. I don't want the Bitchin' Camaro that turns into a giant robot that protects me". I actually like the 1st film for what it is and this just looks lame. The Sam, Macayla, Bumblebee love triangle can only end in one way...a threesome. That's where it looked like it was headed at the end of the last one. Them pulling this Macayla hates bumblebee crap is shitty sequel writing.
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If you miss that point- that Shia VERY CLEARLY SAYS- "Freshmen can't have cars on campus," then I must come to the conclusion you're biased and predisposed toward hating it, bc you obviously didn't pay attention to the clip. So yes, thecomedian, it makes sense. But its been said enough times. Morons will continue to come here and complain bc they're either a. not very observant or b. overeager to complain.
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looks better and more poignant that the cartoon ever was, including the movie and Beast Wars/Machines. You oughta thank your lucky stars that Transformers is as good as it is and receives the amount of respect it does. The first live-action film was way better than it had any right to be.
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At the risk of getting into it with someone else, I really don't think you get it. It's a robot car from outer space that transforms from a badass camaro into a giant robot bodyguard. Go to a different fucking school. Or how about paying for public parking. Seriously, where are the priorities here?
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Instead of pissing, BB is going to drop a deuce.
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Seriously. Fuck crying ripoff of Wall-E Bumblebee but give me more Megan Fox any day of the week.
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robot car from outer space that transforms from a badass camaro into a giant robot bodyguard > megan fox with her lame ass passage tat
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That shit's expensive. Public parking in a college town? Even more so. Now I don't know about you, and I don't know about Shia's character, but applying to colleges and paying for college was expensive for me. And I wouldn't forego a great education at a great school bc my Transformer couldn't come with me. And based on what we learned in the last movie- that Sam's dad made him cover $2000 to pay half the price for a cheap car. I doubt his parents are going to help pay for parking or anything else. So were I in his position, I'd be going to the good school without freshman parking too. I'd have Bumblebee go spend some time with the other TFs like Optimus. Go hang at that military dude's house. Priorities for me would be college, not my TF best friend that can take care of itself. We'd both just have to deal with being apart for a short time. Come on. This is a really dumb criticism.
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but if we are going to begin dissecting this load of shit lets start with the Fact that Shitas going to college at all You are 1. Tied in with the Feds, helped them defeat bad alien robots and know more secrets than just about anyone on the planet. 2. You are friends with a group of interplanetary capable, sentient robots who very much more technologically advanced than anyone on earth is. 3. You are banging Megan Fox Now I ask you...where is the fucking logic that he is going to fucking college in the first place? Should he have written a fucking best seller at this point? Or sold the movie right to Hollywood for $$$$$? Or hit his "friends" up for some advanced technology that would make him the next William Fucking Gates? or at least been living HUGE on a Government payroll to keep his mouth shut or perhaps as liaison between them and the fucking Autobots? Also...name a school this fucktard could go to that would give him a better education than hanging out and learning from said interplanetary traveling, sentient robots; don't ya think they might know a Bit fucking more than the physics professors at MIT? HUH? The entire fucking thing makes not one bit of fucking sense if you look at it logically...not one bit I say. It is like a fucking ADD afflicted Retard wrote this scene...it is just god damned stupid.
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You don't need college if your dating Megan Fox...you should be able to live large for a few years off her Lap dance tips.
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Yes it's a dumb criticism, but still a valid one. And yes, I'm a senior at the university of Washington in Seattle. Public parking costs $150 a month only two blocks from campus. And no career I could ever do would be on par with making contact with alien life. You could live on talk shows and book deals for the rest of your life. Affording parking would not be a problem.
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Our already hit that point, I posted too slow.
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Our already hit that point, I posted too slow.
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isn't dumb.As I said...Show me a professor who knows more than beings who conquered interstellar travel. Shia's character, if this were "real", would make Bill Gates look like a fucking pauper with the Tech and knowledge he has at his disposal.And of course Megans Lap Dance tip jar is nothing to sneeze at either.
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it's just you missed how bad the bits in between were.
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Like the scene in Bay's Amityville Horror where the babysitter shows up with a bare midriff, and the parents never bat an eyelash. It's just done for its titillation, not moving the story forward. But then again, that pretty much explains Bay's entire career.
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*Respek Knuckles Pound* I can't really argue against anything you just said. Its too late. But mainly I can't because I will admit WE ARE LOOKING TOO HARD INTO THIS. Because now its going to turn into a debate of what's more *realistic*, which seems like folly given the type of movie this is, and what's better for the story. Would it be better for Sam to try and have a normal life and go to college like a normal kid, hiding his Transformer from prying eyes like the media, scientists interested in studying BB, or other various jealous humans worldwide? Or would it be better for him to become a multi-millionaire because of book deals, a celebrity always in the spotlight with everyone in the world knowing he has a Transformer? Its an interesting proposition and I like the idea of debating which is a better continuation for the story. But ultimately, its a bit silly. My opinion? If I were the storyteller, I'd go with Route A because it makes it easier to keep your character grounded and thus easier for members of your audience to still be able to relate to him. Also, if everyone knows you have a Transformer, what's the point of the robots *still* being Transformers? Know what I mean? It seems moot to keep the charade of "robots in disguise" if you're going to have a character exploit that for personal gain. I think Sam would rather protect BB than put him through that. But damnit, there I was analyzing it more than I thought I would.
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This talk of the alien knowing more about interstellar travel than a college professor, etc etc assumes too much: It assumes that's something Shia is even interested in. Just because I had an extremely close friend who was a genius in physics or math wouldn't make me want to ditch college so I could learn that one subject from him.
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All those robots would be in a government lab somewhere being studied and having their technology exploited, I'm sure.
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I've never heard of a college that didn't allow freshman to have cars. Not allowed "on campus" perhaps. Either way, Sam could just park bumblebee off campus. No one with half a brain is going to ditch the Bitchin' Camaro that's ALIVE and turns into a giant ass-kicking robot. It's lazy writing. And this is coming from someone who loves the 1st Transformers. It's lazy stupid writing. Hopefully the crazy robot fights will make up for it.
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Never even thought about that stuff you pointed out, but you're right, at least SOME logic would go a long way. Cool post mang.
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College I went to didn't allow freshmen to have cars on campus. To pay to park outside of campus was extremely expensive. I was a poor college student who didn't have the money to pay it, or parents willing to fork out the money. Its not a crazy, unrealistic concept. I don't think its lazy writing. Sam knows that he can't have a free college experience if he's constantly having to make sure Bumblebee isn't getting into trouble or getting noticed by others. My solution? I'd have him live with Optimus while I was gone. Solves both problems.
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Seriously. What's the password or am I retarded?
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...stupid, lazy, sequel plotting and you know it. They're so lazy they had to bring back the lame "bumblebee can't talk" plot device. and in your case, why did you have to pay to park off campus? Couldn't you just park in front of someone's house? Even in a busy metropolitan city like NYC there are clever alternatives to paying for parking. In the case of this film it's just stupid lazy writing taking on this paint by numbers sitcom subplot that Sam, Bumblebee and Macayla don't even need. So what if Sam takes bumblebee with him to school. I just want to see Giant Robots beat the crap outta each other. In the meantime the human characters can do more intelligent things than spuder along in stupid subplots.
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this looks exactly like that crappy transformers movie from a couple of years ago. just eww.
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it's all just one big fucking joke
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i will still see this piece o' crap and like it. mmm good
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People on both sides of this argument are, in my opinion, being a little bit melodramatic.
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For anybody still pissed off about the reaction and total hypocrisy of this site in dealing with that Wolverine workprint post, you should see what Herc just said in his Pushing Daisies story...
"How soon [you see it] depends on where you are and which tickets you’re holding.
The Germans saw them earlier this spring, so dubbed versions are probably floating around the bittorrents keeping the Wolverine movie company."
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Ah yes, those were some posts. "Fuck you, it's not the fucking best movie of the fucking year! It's full of fucking plot holes!" And then I foamed at the mouth and fell over backwards...
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they outed themselves when they destroyed half of Los Angeles in the last movie...everyone knows about them already. Which makes the entire premise of "transformers" kinda irrelevant.Oh..and yes...I'd have dropped out of school in an instant to hang out with someone on the cutting edge. Example...Microsoft. Gates is a drop out, Allen is a dropout...and 75% of the startup crew dropped out of college to get it going.Result? More millionaires are employed by Microsoft than are in any other company on the planet.Now...give me some time with hyper intelligent robots several centuries advanced from myself....yeah..I think I'll skip that Western Civ. class than you very much.
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Apr 19, 2009 1:36:29 AM CDT
AllPowerfulWizardOfOz...it isn't petty to ask for quality.
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At least give the impression you gave half a fuck about the story and script..toy movie or not.Look...when Pixar movies..Movies made for families and by the fucking MOUSE of all people...have a more heartfelt, intelligent and logical script than your $150Million CGI spectacle...that is just fucking sad. What is worse...is that the last movie was SO bad it wasn't even fun in a B movie way. It was just insulting. Pissing Robots? Masturbation jokes? characters that served ABSOLUTELY NO PURPOSE? Please...they should have at least had some respect for themselves if not for the viewer. I mean, box office aside...aren't they embarrassed by what they wrote/shot? Is that REALLY the best they could do? Fuckin sad..Fucking Unprofessional.
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gamespot.com got the preview. Looks awesome.
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I mean, seriously. I'm no indie darling, but if you're going to complain about lack of respect for the viewer and being embarrassed by the product, you need to stay away from mainstream theaters. 90% or more of what comes out is "fuckin sad..Fucking Unprofessional." Transformers doesn't pretend to be anything more than it is. Would I like it to be better? Sure. The pissing and masturbation jokes and lack of actual Transformers in the first Transformers made me sad, but it's really not worth the invective you're spewing. If it was, for instance, a certain cowled superhero film that was insisting on being considered "art", then I would understand. But c'mon. It's f'n Transformers.
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Ever been made in defense of Transformers. "Its dumb fun" It's based on a cartoon" and "All it needed was giant robots!" are bullshit arguments, the domain of complete morons. They have all been systematically deconstructed ad nauseum. And conspiracy is correct that the first film didnt even work as spectacle as it was a tedious bore filled with one dimensionl pointless characters for 75% of its running time. What really gets me though is the outright mockery of asking a film not to be completely retarded. How cynical and dumb has our society gotten when the term "Art" is mocked and laughed at. And because I know I need to specify this for the umpteenth time for your pea brains, No one was asking for Lars von trier or, and I fucking hate having to repeat this, Shakespeare. Just a solid action movie with epic, HIGHLY DISCERNABLE, set pieces, where the robots are the ones with the personality (given that THAT IS THE POINT OF TRANSFORMERS!!!)and the humans are peripheral, directed with a steady vision, cool designs that homage but update the originals, and a sense of wonder.
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I don't think Lars von Trier is particularly art. See, there's part of your problem. "Art" is subjective. No proper defense has been made for Transformers because, shock and surprise, you wouldn't accept one anyway. Even IF someone gave enough of a shit to form a cogent argument, would you care? No. You're obviously someone who hates what he hates and likes what he likes and nobody else's opinion matters. I don't disagree with any of your complaints, incidentally. I also thought the action was too messy and the robots were far too peripheral. But I... ya know... got over it. Again, this coming from the psychotic TDK critic...
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Nope, still fucking awesome all throughout.
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all say the same things but ignore the obvious...he didnt write the script..and to say the first one had bad writing or bad dialogue tells me u werent paying attention, or the regular dumb fanboy reaction when people start talking in a movie..brain death.....if nothing is exploding or there isnt a hot chick in the scene half-naked your brain instantly translates it as "filler" or "lazy writing"...as ive said in other talkbacks, bay is a great director, his box office #s prove it, big stars flock to his movies because they know his movies make money and makes them bigger stars..no one else could hav brought transformers to the screen in a way that would hav been believable....fanboys think these movies are just for them, if u want a transformers movie just for u, watch the 86 movie over and over...this movie IS NOT for ONLY transformers fans...and honestly saying there should be little or no human parts in this movie and they should be "periferal" is saying u hav no idea how hollywood works...no major stars = straight to dvd...no major stars = no big budget to bring all your beloved transformers to life in the way that spielberg and paramount have done for u...this is transformers, its no worse than all those other transformer series that came after g1 and continues in animated...all different in their own way, but still transformers..this is no different..and no this is not serious source material, its not sacred, considering the type of dedication the writers and bay have showered on this franchise all u haters should be kissing their asses right now...see all u haters outside the IMAX at the front of the line where we all know u whiny faggots will be on june 24, with your skin tight pink "prime is my hero" shirts..
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Yeah no shit it's TECHNICALLY subjective, we have these talkbacks so we, most of us slaves to the art of cinema, can argue the merits, or lack thereof, of film. Saying "Well it's all subjective anyway" doesnt really get us anywhere." Nor does "get over it". What ISN'T subjective is the piss poor arguments typically made for this film. If its so entirely arguable anyway, why has no one on the "pro" side bothered to step up? Instead they continually ignore the arguments against it in favor of frat boy discourse.
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of what I'm saying. As sick as it is, THAT is the face of the pro TINO argument. That brand of idiocy is a shite sight away from subjectivity.
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"Transformers doesn't pretend to be anything more than it is."
A lack of pretension does not excuse a lack of quality. We are getting to a point in our society where we are beginning to expect NOTHING in terms of quality from our filmmakers. Hell look at the reviews for 17 Again and how Zac Efron suddenly has real potential simply because he can adequately deliver a line without going cross eyed and pissing himself. It's mentality like that thats going to rob us of a generation of great young actors who will be replaced with the modern day C. Thomas Howell and it's films like Transformers that are going to kill the big budget film completely once guys like Jim Cameron are too old to make films. Hell we can't even rely on Spielberg anymore for a creative fantasy vision. If we all asked a bit more of ourselves and our filmmakers then maybe we could bring some of the glory back to mainstream filmmaking. And if not....well when Ashton Kutcher remakes Citizen Kane for a new generation, you tell me. -
and u are a great example of an ass that likes reading his words on screen....over and over and over..i didnt write an "argument" and its not "idiocy" to say that hollywood shouldnt and cant cater to the obsessive, compulsive portion of the supposed "fans" like yourself that will never be satisfied by anything presented and can never utter a single positive word about nearly anything...btw i bet u hav all the other internet virgins(dudes btw) over every nite and have "lets be big men on the net".. "slaves to the art of cinema" ??? wtf are u kidding us ?? seriously ? movies are not "art" theyre entertainment.
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Michael Bay doesn't write the shit scripts, but he sure as hell picks them and directs them. Box office means shit. It is not a factor in determining a great director. I must have missed the big stars in the first Transformers. Josh Duhamel? John Turturro? No one in the first film was a box office draw. The fact that the idiot Turturro and Tyrese characters are still in the sequel makes me want to puke all over this talkback.
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Yes, it is just a dumb property about cars that become robots based on Hasbro toys. I don't think *many* people are expecting anything different. At the same time, that doesn't change the fact that all the talky parts are horrendous. You don't see anything wrong with going to see it, I don't see anything wrong with other people pointing that out. Personally I think the series has some value just because it pushes the envelope in terms of spectacle, but it's still a chore to watch the whole thing.
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"box office means shit" is the silliest thing ive ever read.
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I'm not saying it's subjective so you'll stop the argument altogether. You want to dislike the film, go ahead. You even have reasons with which I agree. But getting pissed off and spewing bile doesn't make sense to me. I made the point about lack of pretension because I personally find it much more offensive when a film tries to pass itself off as more than it is. Bayformers was Bayformers. Unapologetically so. The sequel will be as well. It's not trying to be sneaky about it. I can respect that more than, for instance, Lars von Trier. Who thinks that experimentation is the same as artistry. Or Michael Haneke, who believes that meta-fiction podium-thumping horror is smarter than regular old horror. In the end, I guess I'm saying pick your battles, bro. This ain't worth it.
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I think he means "box office doesn't mean anything," not "box office = shit," if that helps. If you're angry that he doesn't think box office means anything, well fuck, I dunno. I don't really want to get into this conversation about whether money = good, but I'm sure there's some movie out there that's made a shitload of greenbacks that you think sucks too.
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the haters need to chill too, its one thing to have an opinion of the movie, fine, we hav no prob with that...but attempting to ridicule anyone that enjoyed the movie by calling us names and plants and people that take anything that hollywood pumps out..as if theyre superior to the average person...thats not productive and its not a conversation, not a talkback...which is what this is supposed to be.
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He said its not the determining factor in a great director. You disagree?
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hannah montana ? mall cop ? ...angry ? no...i just get amused by the "im so much more sophisticated than all of u" comments from keyboard jockeys on here, as if theyre gonna be famous somehow if they post 5000 times a day, every day.... lol
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Now you're gonna tell us what a TB is supposed to be? A TB is whatever the fuck the majority of us make it. If you don't like what it has become, then see your dull ass the fuck out.
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well how many shitty directors get big box office #s ? i dont mean the hit-and-miss directors, but the always suck directors..i could be wrong...then again i think i missed where he was going with that comment.
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And I still enjoyed it. Another round of flame wars then.
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scary...i guess being mentioned by seth rogan makes u special all of a sudden......"majority of us" ....who is US ?? and why do u think youre in the majority ? and a TB is for all, not just for what the MAJORITY want...ask the moderators douchebag..keep the cursing to yourself, as much as u like to think, youre no one special dude....ur a keyboard jockey and prob a couch potato...
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thank god ur back, saw u at the top of this TB...the flames hav started already
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In the future you should replace "keyboard jockey" with "keyboard commando"; it's funnier. I actually think I disagree with you here, but I just wanted to help. ;-)
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lol its ok....at least ur not telling me "f*ck you" ....i might just take ur advice...sounds like they get into camouflage and do cartwheels thru the living room on the way to the keyboard..lol.
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But today is a whole new day! Funny thing is this argument will never be solved over the internet. I suggest a Thunderdome type duel. The 'haters' against the 'Bay Apologists' (is that right?). Battle to the death. Who ever survives wins the argument. How does that sound?
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Bay from Collider interview:
"Nobody had any faith in the movie.... That was the thing...umm when filming you're thinking I'm shooting a dumb fucking robot movie....alrigh."
That's from Director's mouth he even knows he made a shitty movie.
The plot, script, actors, robot designs, dialogue, editing, cinematography, score, director, story logic, action, and all other aspects of this movie are pure dog shit...
So what is there to talk about?
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LOL, classic! Caps Lock on, get ready to RELEASE THE FURY!!!!
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lol, keyboard commandos show your BATTLE FACES !!!
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I got hooked on this site because of the first Transformer talkback. It kept me busy for hours at work seeing the hate pour out. Never really understood it but it was damn entertaining. Saying that trying to defend my likes and dislikes over a forum is really pointless. I'm going to go watch it no matter what people say, luckily it's my money Bay will get. You guys who don't like it go spend your money on what ever gives you pleasure. Done and done.
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...people will probably tell me to go "Fuck myself and die" or something along those lines....
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Reboot, that old computer animation show from the 90s. Don't mind me I'm not trying to antagonize anyone I'm just enjoying this tb before I hit the watpagin phase.
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probably something along those lines..or that youre typical of modern moviegoers...going to a movie to enjoy it is so 90's, dont ya know?
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This film is the perfect storm. based on a property that has a ton of potential to be a great genre franchise, directed by a man who literally does more to make the genre filmmaking landscape a worse place this side of Tom Rothman, and an army of douche bag supporters without a shred of intellectual argumentative ability (and that's not subjective, it's fact). There's plenty that makes this fight worthwhile. It's the front lines of the idiot movement. i mean jeezy chreezy man we just had a guy say "movies aren't art, they are entertainment"
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The worst kind of philistine. The less attention we give himt he faster the fuckin' jackass goes away.
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youre right, it is a pointless argument with these multi-posting losers...this guy is arguing that movies arent entertainment...if thats a typical comment from an "intellectual" moviegoer, than this world is doomed...
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People don't want poorly written and made cynical garbage, man that world is fucked. But the one where people see film ONLY as entertainment and need LITERALLY NOTHING more than explosions and piss jokes,, what a fucking paradise. My God you are worthless.
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because i dont use words like "philistine" or phrases like "jeezy chreezy" ?? and speaking of someone wanting attention, its not me dude...look in the mirror or count the number of posts u make daily, then get back to me about who is begging for attention...im sorry im actually giving u any right now...its just what u want anyways...and telling people not to respond to me reeks of desperation dude..
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Sherlock Holmes maybe? Seeing Rachel McAdams in a period piece for the first time might make me actually see tf2
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Bayformes Hats T-Shirts and Bumper Stickers...
""Your childhood is forever "transformed" by BAYFORMERS this summer! Flame on!""....
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teaming up to say ignore lil ol me ?? i guess u guys are used to tag teaming aint ya ?? and more profanity, yea u guys are lookin lame now
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Somebody would probably be able to write an interesting thesis paper on how those two words are used (not me though, I'm a lazy bastard). Personally I don't really see the distinction. I think movies should be art, but I think art should be entertaining. I mean... to me it almost seems like the meaning of the words are being changed.
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Pretty much what I expected.
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Michael eBay is responsible for some if not most of the terrible dialogue. Spielberg confirmed in an interview "Saying Bay would find the comedy if it was on the page." (overacting and ad-libbing)and DVD extras proves it as well.
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That only slacked jawed, backwoods, ADHD, retards are going to enjoy the next movie. Don't forget to wear your bib and helmet!
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well i can only beat my head against this intellectual brick wall for so long before i start gettin a headache and its gettin old...so i declare myself winner by TKO, i have beaten back the keyboard commandos, they hav retreated to their mothers breast and raised the white flag of defeat.....hahahahaha lol.... i love that term......keyboard commando...lol.....awesome.....g'nite all
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it's almost as if you refuse to accept that the industry has room for many genres at the same time. sure, transformers (and no doubt all it's sequels) are about as deep as the puddle on my driveway, but in no way is that a bad thing. a transformers movie should be spectacular, throwaway fun, like independence day, or the mission impossible series. i will never understand the TINO'ers who herald the cheesy as fuck cartoon as somehow having more artistic worth than Bays efforts. i love the old G1 series, and the movie, and the far superior UK comic series, but they are an entirely different animal from the new movies.
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is going to show JJ Abrams, McG, Michael Bay and all the other hacks just who is king of the world. Oh yes.
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I have no idea, and reckon I'm about to get flamed here, but didn't the whole Transformers scene begin with toys (Hasbro)?What I mean is - didn't the toys come first and then a story was crafted around them in order to SELL the toys?I'm not sure if this is true but what the fuck is anyone complaining about when that is all Michael Bay & company are doing now..they are carryng on the original heritage of constructing stories to sell more toys.When people talk about their childhood being raped, it was a 'manufactured' moment in childhood anyway.It's not like Tolkien thought up some small figures with movable parts and then put them up againts demons and dark wizards before going 'eureka' - "let's write a trilogy."Transformers were toys that 'took off', so narrative was created around them with the sole purpose of making and selling more toys.There's no art to this, it is pure and simple business. If kids then want to graft stories to the toys and make them the focal/fickle point of their childhood then fair enough, but don't suddenly get fucking uppity when a new generation at Hasbro comes along and thinks, "Let's take this back to its roots and sell more toys."The films are bound to be less than your collective childhood imaginations, cos they're based on...toys.
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that's a great point. there's no way bay can compete with your childhood memories and fantasies you played out with the toys.
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Shouldn't the Bayformer fans be at Don Murphy's board or TFW 2005 deep throat'n Orci and watching ppl play with TF toys on youtube?
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How did the Bionicles leave a planet if they can't transform into a flying alt mode? Just jump up into the air and transform into a dildo, light a fart then blast off?
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at Adult Swim: http://tinyurl.com/c2rfykIf it does well, Hasbro said they'd consider an adult take on Transformers as well (though I'm still looking forward to season 3 of TF: Animated).
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rears it's ubiquitous, and not fully considered head. Doesn't matter if the toys came first. Most other toons had a tie-in toy line either immediately preceding them, or simultaneously launched. The crooked leeches running National Comics made most of their money on Superman merchandise, back in the late 30's and 40's.
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You eye'n my piece Fitty Cent?
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to accompany a live-action/CG Transformers movie. What's not wanted is an half-assed go at it that seems to be marginally interested in the robot characters or storylines. They are merely props in the background.
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As far as the art and entertainment thing goes. Personally, I thought it was boring junk. It couldn't even deliver on the one thing that I was sure Michael Bay couldn't screw up, namely giant robot action. And what the fuck was with all that rah-rah military porn stuff? The Transformers are super-advanced robot aliens who have MASTERED INTERPLANETARY TRAVEL, what possible chance would a pathetic species bound to a single patch of one measly planet who are less advanced than the robots by several orders of magnitude possibly threaten them with? It was beyond stupid. At least Spielberg had the balls to say that we would be UTTERLY fucked if an alien species intended on destroying us. The humans could be kept relevant with Sam, but all the other meatbags should just be background noise to the main focus; Autobots vs Decepticons.
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THEY KIILED BAZOOKA...NOOOOOOOOO!
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http://tinyurl.com/39gcbz
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In fairness though, the Bumblebee scene really allows you to appreciate the level of CGI detail they have created. Fucking amazing.
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Transformers is rapidly becoming a film franchise, like many comic-book and other popular characters. Lucas did it with Star Wars, Warners have done it with Harry Potter (I suppose Rowling was not conceited enough to imagine her boy wizard would transform into the behemoth he now is...)However, these franchises have huge back stories to dip into, some pre-dating the Second World War. What does Transformers have? A moment in the 80s, along with He-Man, Cabbage Patch Dolls and any other fad toy. Granted, Transformers secured its loyal fanbase and Hasbro welded a universe to this following, fleshing it out through cartoons and comic books...but this simply does not measure up to the worlds created in children's minds.Rowling, Tolkien, Kane/O'Neil/Starlin, Lucas - these guys'n'gals came up with a detailed world and then unleashed it onto the public along with the subsequent toys, thus shaping the universe which the characters inhabited...Transformers, like many other more superficial pop culture icons, came out as toys, made a wad of cash and then had a world retconned around them.The real Transformers world was in the individual mind of each child owning the figure and the films simply can never measure up to such idiosyncratic creativity. hence, Transformers fans feel a genuine sense of ownership over their toy and feel let-down by Bay&Hasbro&co's interpretation which isn't motivated by enjoyment/play as much as it is motivated by the need for "cha-cha-cha-ching".
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Apr 19, 2009 7:26:58 AM CDT
Talking about things being the new flames on Optimus is over.
by smashing
You know its true.
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supposed to be Megatron?
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Decepticons want to destroy humanity and seize the Earth to begin anew, the Autobots believe all life is sacred and would rather hide 'in plain sight' and protect humans from the decepticon threat. So...what's your point?
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..I could be the chosen one *rolls eyes*
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All that stupid shit with that secret government agency, the "comical" black hacker, those cliche'd as fuck soldiers WAS FUCKING BORING. Nobody who talks about how much they liked TF has ever said they liked it for any of those plotlines. They liked it for robots smashing shit. Which was really underdeveloped. I mean who actually had a personality except for Bumblebee, Optimus and Megatron? I could give less than a shit when Jazz got scissored and Starscream was less than a cameo. I'm also saying the endless sucking up to the US military was nauseating and retarded. They should have had a quick appearance in that Quatar base scene and then not entered the plot again. The fact that they actually KILLED TRANSFORMERS with heavy metal music blazing is beyond stupid in what was an already profoundly idiotic film. Humans=irrelevant.
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That's what Michael Bay is doing to you. Open your eyes - he's the Anti-Christ.
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Meh! More exciting was the Dodge concept electric car that looked like a miniature Viper. Very hot!
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This morning I heard an interview with Gavin Hood about Wolferine. He mentioned that while they were making the movie he would search the internet for movie sites to read what fans were expecting from the movie. He wanted to ground it in a bit of reality but after reading the backlash about some fans he did a few changes to hopefully please the diehard fans. I'm pretty sure he made it to this site and by the things that I have read here it will be impossible to please fanboys. So Mr. Hood and Mr. Bay, in that department you have failed already. You will never win that battle. I hope Wolverine doesn't suck to badly, I like Gavin Hood. He played rugby in "The Game". (Even tackled his best friend to death in a Currie cup final)
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that all 10 of you haters' bitching and whining didn't mean didly squad
and millions of others who enjoyed the film gets a kick ass sequel.It's a huge Epic Fail on your part don't you think? But go on and bitch...please. I can't wait for more sequels..maybe they'll have a scene where bumblebee drop a steaming turd just for you haters to play with. -
I guess they were just working to Shia's strengths.
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Look, a bad movie is a bad movie. But Hood is a talented director. Michael Bay is a freaking hack of the highest order who doesn't have a clue how to make anything substantive. I don't see anyone denying your right to make him a box office king, it's your money. But Bale forbid people call Bay out on his foolishness, that makes them "haters"? Grow up, if only for the fact you're defending a 50 year old misogynist like Bay. And Wolverine's faults can be traced to Rothman more than Hood, though not everyone can make a decent superhero movie and they should recognize that before taking one on.
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But glad you spelled "Epic Fail" correctly. Maybe you should stop watching Bay movies.
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Don't think I did.... And I will agree Hood is a better director. The thing I'm trying to... Ag, forget it.
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Shit, he's not even working with McG. As we heard in the holy Balerant, this is Bale's Terminator through and through.
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...megan fox takes off her pants and all some of you people see or worry about is a robot crying? fuck thats dumb. nothing should distract you from the fact that if you threw megan foxs' pussy into the air it would turn into sunshine.
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...the Transformer that also cried in the G1 cartoons (or was it G2?). I think he was one of those high ranking autobots with Prime or Alpha in his name. I can't find that footage. I did find that footage where some Decepticons are getting drunk on Energon, and where the Autobots are acting as aliens in a movie. And Starscream proclaiming his stupidity.
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I know Old Jetfire is a reference to Alpha Trion. Notably his 'facial hairs'.
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Is anybody hear familiar with seibertron.com (Transformer collector's website) and how they see Bay's movie's Transformers?
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If you threw MegaFox pussy into the air Al Gore would swoop down in his eco-jet and fine you for adding yet pollutant to the atmosphere. Megans pussy is the crack and nicotine of pussys...tempting, no doubt delicious, but ultimately toxic and the cause of many bad outcomes; that she has a career and is able to subject ordinary humans to her "acting skill" is an example of her pussys deadly power.Sunshine? No. A Sweet, sticky, intoxicating drug from which all men desire to drink; but one that ultimately comes with a lifetime of serious issues that would destroy them? Yes.
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I pity the haters. I'm so glad I didn't waste my childhood waching crappy cartoons, but played with toys instead. Maybe otherwise I now would feel a pain in the ass, given to me by "childhood rapist" Michael Bay.
Now you're going to say it's not all about the cartoon, you hate the film because it's silly. So what? The whole Transformers concept is totally silly. Why should beings capable of interstellar space flight even bother disguising? OK, maybe the noble Autobots would choose disguise because of some Star Trekish prime directive ethics, nut the Bad Bots? Puh-lease! Sillyness in a movie about alien robots disguising as human technology and fighting each other on earth is not only appropriate, it's mandatory. Transformers can not be taken seriously.
Now I like some science and believability in my science fiction. Which is why I hate The Incredible Hulk. When he gains hundreds of kilogramms out of nowhere it totally puts me out of the movie. Conservation of mass, anyone? Not to mention the most cringeworthy "Hulk smash!" line which inexplicably some demented people seem to like. Note that I despise Bay's Armagedon even more than Hulk, I'm no Bayapologist. But he has learned one thing since. If in a movie you go against the laws of physics, one way to pull it off is to just do it blatantly enough.
When the gargantuan allspark cube conveniently folds itself parcel size it's a full frontal kick into the face of the conservation of mass... and it works. It works because it's silIy. I love it. I happily say "screw physics" and accept everything these bots can or cannot do. Mysterious allspark energy transforming a vending machine into an evil robot? Sure, bring it on!
I think Bay has done TF the best way it could be done, as a popcorn movie. It's fun, it's silly and it kicks ass. You haters can only hate it so much because you take the silly transformer franchise waaaaay to seriously. And the cartoon sucks.
Now this RotF footage looks like more of the same, twice as much, and I'm looking forward to it. You crawl back under your stones and whine how Michael Bay keeps raping your childhood.
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Apr 19, 2009 10:09:46 AM CDT
BOBORCI...Get Your Bitch Ass in here and answer for this shit.
by conspiracy
I know you are watching this...well, what do you have to say about this idiocy you call a script? Christ man..you are about the same age as I am and this is the depth of your imagination? Crying, pissing, farting, teeth spitting robots? Good God man...keeping a sense of child like wonder is one thing...but retardation? Do you still run up and pull the hair of girls you like? Fuck...have some respect for your fucking profession, and yourself, if nothing else.
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Awe, shucks.
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sticking barbed pins in their penises too..so whatever floats your boat. But there is silly..and then there is insulting...TF was and is insulting. It isn't even B movie bad...it is just Bad; as in lazy, poorly thought out, make it on the fly, "I don't give a flying fuck just hand me a paycheck" bad.Look..I know what you are saying...and I can give a good "bad" movie a pass...but this shit was beyond that. You can make a POPCORN movie that does not insult or cheat the audience...you can make a POPCORN movie that at least tries to elevate itself...or at least winks at the camera so you are in on the joke as well. But Bayformers, like all things Bay, took itself seriously...and thus set up the expectation that quality would follow...and this just wasn't the case.
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We may disagree elsewhere...but keep up the good fight here! RIGHT ON!
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Giant robots smashing each other insulted you?? How sad.
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Or Bayformers or whatever. Really? When? I must've missed it...was it located anywhere between a voiceover about magic boxes and a robotic car 'peeing' on a slightly dernaged government spook? Or was it when the President asked for some Ding-Dongs (whatever the fuck they are...) from between his socks?The only thing these films take seriously is their initial budget and then their profit and in that respect Michael Bay and Hasbro did a bang-up job - they practically printed the stuff.Surely the whole point is that a film based upon interstellar shape-shifting robots who disguise themselves as automobiles is that the moment you (or the filmmakers themselves) take it seriously (unless you are below the age of 10) you are inviting, nay positively encouraging, failure.What could possibly be taken seriously about this film for any adult? Nothing, because it's a kid's film, surely. As far as I can tell only one comic book film franchise has taken itself seriously and gotten away with it - Batman Begins & TDK - and the only reason it could take itself even vaguely seriously was because the premise is based upon a man. Not walking/talking/transforming machinery.Transformers fans were given a huge 'wam-bam' director, a producer in Spielberg who 'does' event cinema, a promising young film star in Shia LeWhatever and the world's sexiest woman (according to FHM) as its female sidekick. Fuck, Transformers fans even got the guy off the cartoon to supply the voice...what more could you ask for? Scorsese? Stephen Gaghan?Man, I love these talkbacks...
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And its a bit unrealistic to expect ever film to be the Dark Knight. Films like that don't come around that often. Its not wrong to hope for a film to be that good, but to expect it all the time, and then hate the product when its not? That's a bit like hating my dinner every night because its not filet mignon.
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Instead of the big things these movies do right. Its the SQUID argument all over again. "Spidermans web shooters are organic...flames on optimus..wolverines too short..." Its pathetic. Especially because no one else cares and geeks with brains can live with these changes. Even if you made a movie to their specifications (coughwatchmencough) they will still be ungrateful pricks. I'm SHOCKED Bay even had the original voice of Prime. I think we've proven that if you say FUCK YOU to the geeks your movie will succeed. Pandering to them is a no win situation. Fuck 'em. Do what you want Hollywood. We're just not worth it.
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Helps my headache going away. Thank you. Unfortunately only the reboot of this franchise in about ten (and that's being generous) years will make the bad taste of tf1 go away for me (tf2 isn't getting any of my viewing, let alone $). Now what hit song will close tf2? Maybe Trey Parker's Gay Fish?
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The Matrix teetered close to the edge of stupidity, but managed to keep itself reeled in as one great and effective movie. Then when I saw the sequel I was shocked by its stupidity and how actually "uncool" it felt. Incredibly, it seemed like many people around me still thought it was great... and I couldn't understand why... then the third one came out which was better in my opinion then the second one, and everyone hated it... Maybe people as a mass are caught up in expectation and hype and sometimes are very slow to put their real internal impression into effect as they judge the entertainment value of something...
It will be interesting to see how Transformers2 does. But I've got more faith in the new Star Trek entertaining me, since I like Abrams past work and for whatever reason, the original Tranformers movie while looking great doesn't really entertain me. It's a story thing for me. It needed a more emotional spectacular gripping cool story. They should get the Pixar people to write stories for other types of movies! Those guys are like an effective story factory... but maybe their method is getting played out as well... -
Greased up crack whores and military recruitment porn is completely catered toward the 9 year old market, right? A lot of the people that despise the first film can give a fuck about the cartoon or the toys. As I said earlier, the feature cartoon is a dull piece of shit. I had no expectation from that. All I wanted was a decent film that made sense, which featured characters I understood and/or cared about. I got none of that. Even the action fucking sucked. Thats how I justify my complaints. Just because the script is fucking retarded, and features humor seemingly catered to a 5 year old with Down's Syndrome-- it doesn't make this a kid's movie. Bay did not go in making a kid's movie. If he had, it probably would have been better.
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And Dad's will enjoy the gratuitous Megan Fox shots, whilst isn't it also the case that the American Military stipulate a pro-recruitment tone to any movie in which they give assistance? I'm pretty sure that was the deal with Top Gun.And as far as the nine-year-old market goes, isn't eveything designed to be sold to tweens or younger? They'll now be the 12/13 year olds queuing up for another slice of indecipherable-in-yer-face-frenetic action.Hopefully they'll get a movie in which Sam develops a greater ability to utilise a strange energy which flows from the Allspark, known simply as The Farce. His burgeoning relationship with Optimus leads to a breakdown in communication with Bumblebee, who is left behind when Sam goes to college: cars are not allowed whereas monster trucks are ‘de rigeur’.Starscream and Megatron, having been decimated at the end of the first film, regroup their forces but civil war develops between them – Starscream prefers a more confrontational approach whilst Megatron would rather let evil eke out tiny victories across the galaxy. Megatron gathers his forces at Helm’s Deep for a stand-off against other traitorous Decepticons.A lot of hobbits die in this battle as they wandered onto the wrong sound stage on their way back to the Shire.Whilst at college, Optimus and Megatron (fresh from victory against rebel forces) do battle and Sam watches his mentor get struck down – “Optimuuuussss!” he cries – though not before Optimus warns Megatron that if he strikes him down he will arise more powerful, with a seven litre engine and nitrous injection, capable of drifting when he takes corners.Bumblebee returns from his forty days and nights wandering the scrap yards of the Nevada Desert and joins forces with Sam to fight whichever robots are left. Sam and Megan Fox then disappear into the sunset so that Sam can show her what his Quidditch stick looks like.Kids will exit the cinema going, "Wow...how fresh!"
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The Spirit 2
Cars 2
Howard the Duck 2
Mission to Mars 2
Red Sonja 2
The Village 2
Daredevil 2
I, Robot 2
The Last Mimzy 2
Meteor Man 2
Glen or Glenda 2
The Stepford Wives 2
The Day After Tomorrow 2
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Were you in the Watchmen TB, decrying that film? Did you at all engage my debates in any of the TDK TBs? Have you taken up arms against anything but easy targets? This is absolutely NOT the piece of celluloid to rally the Film Geek Troops. It's not worth it AND the mainstream American audience doesn't give a shit about your opinion. Half the people on this site don't give a shit. You want to send around a petition asking Michael Bay to stop making Transformers movies or Orci and cohorts to stop writing them, I'll sign it. But I'm not going to join you in raging against this particular machine. Because it's NOT WORTH IT. The TDK fight was worth it, in my opinion, because it HAD problems that nobody was acknowledging. Or if they did, they blew them off and still proclaimed it the Best Movie of the Year. Nobody thinks that about Bayformers 2.
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Would sure beat the hell out of whatever did come next.
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Come on, you're an open and fair minded guy. Lets take a closer look at the facts. Both Directors were given Golden franchises with infinite possibilities in terms of revenue and sequel potential. Now compare what Michael Bay did with his golden egg compared to Gavin Hood. At least Bay made IMO, and millions of others, a kick ass Science Fiction Film, and generated a gazillion dollars in revenue. Is there room for improvement, yes there is but that's beside the point. Now lets take a look at what Gavin Hood did with his golden egg. He fucking dropped it, shattered it into a thousand pieces to the point where It will never put back together again. He fucking blew it, he ruined one of best Comic book characters in History. This movie is going to fail big time at the box office. It will make money the first week. But after the bad reviews poor in, and the good reviews of Star Trek pour in, it's going to seal the fate of Gavin Hood's short lived career in directing comic book or sci-fi films. After this monumental faliure, he's lucky to direct the next Michael Dudikoff movie.
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I got a ticket, but on "The Warren Report," they talked about a similar screening having a special, new trailer for TF2 followed by a screening of the original. Is there any chance of my actually seeing TF2 early if I go to this thing like the Austin Star Trek miracle? One reason for asking. It's free. The reports of this being two and a half hours is disheartening, and I can't pay for a ticket to the second. Not because of the economy---I metaphysically can't afford to pay a second time for one of these movies. Yeah...ok, ready for mostly mocking now and maybe one helpful comment.
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Apr 19, 2009 12:14:33 PM CDT
You think Wolverine is gonna fail at the box office?
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Haha. You're a fucking dumb ass.
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now there's a bitch fest that was so retarded and pointless. they were arguing against a change the movie made for the better. i mean seriously, they create spiderman and give him all these spider abilities but he doesnt have the one ability they're known for? until the first movie came i had no clue he used little toys around his wrists. when i found that out i had to just laugh at the stupidity of it all.
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Okay Dick, lets talk about what numbers Wolverine Origins is going to do. The First weekend will be big, I'm guessing anywhere between 60 to 80 million. In order for a movie to make half it's numbers the following week, it would need to have a strong word of mouth and solid reviews. Origins has neither Dick, that's why it's going to fail. This is another Superman Returns believe it Dick!
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X-Men Origins Wolverine is the next DareDevil theatrical cut. Classic comic book film gone wrong.
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Apr 19, 2009 12:41:09 PM CDT
You boys are delusional. Wolverine will do fine.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
Its pretty much critic proof. Mainstream audiences can give a fuck what about the critic's complaints. They love that shit.
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Ms Connelly's assets are quite nicely still intact. :) Go for a google image search run and see what I mean. Yes, Megan Fox definitely seems to have more bouncability, especially in that one part of this trailer. I think we can both appreciate her art.
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Apr 19, 2009 12:43:17 PM CDT
This "They fucke up Marvel's best character" shit is hilarious.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
All 3 X Men movies blow a tremendous cock. Wolverine has always been a dull, one note character. Even going back to the Fox cartoon. Its just a stupid, easy character to pull off. Oooohhh he has claws and he's always angry and he's searching for answers about his past. Wow. Thats inventive.
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I'm calling $40m or less for 1st weekend of WOLVERINE. It's going to tank 70 percent the next weekend.
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And the embed is no longer there. good job.
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Coming from a guy who thinks James Cameron is a hack, meaning one shouldn't take anything you say seriously.
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Man, don't you have any compassion? I'm trying to give the movie the benefit of the doubt. However, I wouldn't suprise me in the least if this movie only did 40 million the first weekend. I'm assuming Rothman isn't allowing any early reviews of this movie so that should help the numbers a bit, because even he knows how bad this film turned out.
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..a Charlie Kauffman Transformers script would be like.
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Because I think that was the best film of last year. Watchmen I wasnt around for because I saw it and...well I was just neither here nor there on the whole thing. While technically faithful the whole thing lacked the soul of the comic leaving me ort of non plussed and not feeling strongly about the film one way or the other.
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Apr 19, 2009 1:46:10 PM CDT
Look at all the same recycled arguments over and over
by industrykiller!
"It's based on a toy line!" "It's just big dumb fun and shouldnt be anything else" "Its just geeks bitching about little tiny changes"
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A movie with enormous potential just butchered. A terrible film for children and douche bags. Thank God it leaked on the internet, it couldnt have deserved it more.
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like TDK and enjoy Transformers as well? What the fuck is wrong with just having a good time at the movies. Tell who ever it is to take their cock out of your cereal bowl and go get a hug from somebody..you bunch of joyless nimrods.
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Not Wolverine. FYI.
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Eternally!
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You are complicit in this crime!!! You will not escape the arms of the law, coward!!!!
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Apr 19, 2009 2:16:08 PM CDT
Jennifer Connelly looked like a stick with a head on it...
by leafar the lost
I went to Yahoo images and looked at a picture of Jennifer Connelly when she was in "Career Opportunities" in 1991. She physical perfection. The word "volumpsious" described her, and her large breasts were nice too. Then I looked at a picture of her at the premiere of "The Day the Earth Stood Still" in December 2008. She looked like a stick with a head on it, covered in a white dress. Don't fucking tell me is hasn't lost a lot of weight, when it looks like she weighs 90 pounds, and her breasts have practically disappeared. I am looking at the picture now, Keanu is standing next to her looking bored, and his tits look bigger than hers. For "Transformers 2" Megan Fox gained 10 pounds, and she looked crazy hot when her tits were jiggling as she ran away from some Decepticons. I rest my case...
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And she doesn't eat and pops pills. What dumb ass was denying she lost weight. Look at her in The Rocketeer. She's twice the fucking woman. She looks like a crack whore now.
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When she reduced her tits...she reduced our dicks as well...what a sad day it was ..sigh :-(
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I'd like nothing more than to get a watchable Transformers movie this time around, but it just isn't damn likely.
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Will be one of the first in line to see the movie. You know that you will. It doesn't make millions because no one sees it. You'll all be there opening night or at least opening week. Then, you'll be on the internet within seconds to register your disdain.
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you remember when Barricade and BumblePee fought and it cut away to show you La Douche screaming and crying THAT WAS AWESOME!! BAYTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!....
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BumblePee crying, La Douche trying to act, Fox really trying to act, and a bunch random ass action shots of horrible looking robots flipping around like monkeys. Wheres the Linkin Park music?
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For someone who hates the movie you seem to remember a lot of it in details. So you'll be there for the second one right? right?
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You'll be there.
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Enoguh with the bullshit "you know you will be there" arguments. I will never see this piece of shit. I still haven't seen Bay's The Island. I only saw Bad Boys 2 on tv. He is garbage. Transformers was it. Oh, Wolverine will make 80-90 million on opening weekend. If Fast and Furious can make 72 million, this can beat that. Crap or not.
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While Gay Fish plays
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Hey! You guys remember when the final show down with Optimus and Megatron? ... Like how Bay didn't even show it.. .o6 seconds of robot fighting then edit to SHIA LA DOUCHE running in circles screaming NoNoNoNo every 3 seconds!!! Man that was fucking AWESOME Baytastic
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The haters were in full on nerd rage, nitpicking at any and everything about the movie. Once the movie came out, they were the first ones to see it, and give reviews. It was the most stunning turn around in the History of these TB's. Once the ring leaders of the haters gave the movie their blessing, the hating stopped for about a few months, then it was full on nerd rage hate again. No doubt, the haters will be here before it comes out nationally bragging about how they've seen it, even though they supposedly hated it, but not enough to take advantage of the first advance screening that falls in their laps.
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Remember when Orci and Kultzman said that the Starscream & Megatron Dynamic would be in the first movie?
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The Dinobots, who beat up the fallen back in ancient times. The fallen comes back for revenge, hence the title. "They can't just be shaking their fins like that and not expect my tactile sensors to feel what my optic visualizers are relaying to me Optimus!" "It doesn't matter, fallen. No means no. Now I will combine with this little autobot in a subtly homo-erotic way to disperse of you." And to lend some credibility to the performance, andy dick will be the voice of the fallen.
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I see how this works now...I'm wise to your shit. it is all falling into place.TF1...you guys were up AICNs ass, licking and tickling all the way; were going to make it real, make it for the fans, you and Bay sat there and held court as the Geeks swooned.Flash forward to 2009...TF1 was PURE CRACK FOR RETARDS..it sucked, it made $$$ but it was a fucking joke. Geeks got wise...didn't hold out much hope for TF2..and as such you FUCKS have been laying pretty low on the buildup for it. And rightfully so from what we've seen...more of the same shitInstead...Now I see you over hawking the Star Trek Property...Braying about being a "Fan", a "Trekkie", how you respect the original, how you are going to blah, blah, blah. You show a Sneak preview to the Geekiest of Geeks..you surprise them...you tickle their taints by trotting out old Nimoy to lend an air of continuity, you make these fuckers piss and scream and fucking cry into their glue on ears till I'm sure half of them were so joygastic they can't even clearly remember the night...they loved it..oh it was great. But ya know...all this smacks of the types of Promotions you did for TF1.I wonder, We know THIS is going to be shit, 6 months from now there is a damned good chance we'll be hating your Trek too....You are one HELL of a marketeer Bob, I'll say that...but as a writer you have yet to prove that you aren't a Fucking artistically bankrupt corporate Shill....a Fucking Amateur who got lucky.
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You should read Kurtzman and Orci's script. It's literally hte worst script I have ever read, especially the dialogue. Bay, to his credit, obviously let the actors improvise like crazy to make it sound more natural because whatw as on the page makes the original cartoon look like Portnoy's Complaint. Kurtzman and Orci are the worst kind of hacks but they get saved over and over by directors who make things look pretty. Those two guys make wannabe screenplay writers go crazy because it's somebody else's job that those fuckers are stealing. i'm sure their natural human trait of denial keeps them from truly understanding how undeserving and awful they are, but somewhere deep down they know it.
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Back before time began there was the CCCCCUUUUUUBBBBBBBEEEE....Stick the CCUUUUUBBBBBEEEE into my chest! LMAO dun dun DUUUUNNN!! Because calling it the Matrix would confuse people RIGHT?
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That the average diehard fan would be confused. Each and everytime a new Transformer series was created they altered the backstory of the Matrix. So there's never been a consistent story arch involving the cube/matrix.
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I'm not going to go through the entire argument because it's tedious. Essentially it comes down to two issues: 1) It tried too hard to be "deep", resulting in character inconsistency and unmotivated dialogue and 2) Plot holes like the oft-repeated question "What happened to those people at Harvey's party once the Joker and his henchmen were left alone with them?" There are others, but that's the one plot hole that is almost universally pointed to when someone gets critical on TDK. My feelings on TDK, incidentally, don't preclude me from being right about your unnecessary railing against Bayformers 2. And again, to repeat myself for the hundredth fucking time, I agree with your criticisms of the first and trepidation about the second. But I'm not calling anyone names about it. Because IT IS NOT WORTH IT.
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Watchmen!! The Director bent over backwards to ensure they kept the most extreme fanboi's satisfied, at the expense of alienating the general audience. That's why Watchmen was a commerical faliure. You did your job with ROTF. You gave the Robots character and emotional depth. To much for some however. The nerd ragers only want the filmakers to accomidate their tastes and demand you give the finger to the average movie goer. I know when it comes to writting big budget blockbusters that you really want to write the die hard sci-fi-geek of a script. However, there's no way the suits are going to greenlight a movie like that to be made, one must take the average movie goer into consideration. It's a delicate balance that very few are able to achieve. With TF and Star Trek under you belt, the haters have cleary lost the argument.
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First, I'd be curious to know who came to who. Did Bay get the rights and the greenlight and then approach Orci and Kurtzman? Because then they're writing on assignment, which means Bay is more responsible for the writing than you say. But I don't know for sure.
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I love how Frenzy had his head cut off but still lived and to turn into a phone. When Jazz gets torn in half he dies yet Frenzy can sprout legs transform into other shit. GREAT STORY LOGIC ROBERTA & KULTZMAN...and how do they get off planets in they can't transform into flying alt modes??? HUH we the fans need to know.
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Notice how the lackey quickly adopts the language of his masters! Just kidding... kinda. But I seriously doubt "Bob" is reading these Talkbacks. And anyway, can't it be possible that some nerd ragers didn't like Transformers because it just wasn't... I dunno, good?
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Once Bay was hired he had Orci and Kurtzman retool the script. Kurztman and Orci just finished writting the Island for Bay, and Bay perfers to work with people he's very familiar with.
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And 99.9% of them only exist in these TB's. America loves the Transformers, hell the entire world loves the Transformers. And when it's all said and done ROTF will make 200 million more then it's predecessor. You heard it here first.
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Shouldn't you be on TWF2005.com screaming about how EPIC AND AWESOME these movies are. With the rest of the mouth breathing, ADHD, 10 year old girls, and 40 year old virgins who enjoy youtube clips of people playing with toys????...posting that gay ass Bay S'PLOSION emoticon.
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Apr 19, 2009 6:46:52 PM CDT
Fuck you with that "YOU WILL ALL SEE THIS MOVIE" bullshit.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
What an asinine statement. Yeah this movie will make a bazillion dollars, and that proves the people here bitching about it will be paying to see it? Uhhhh. The people here bitching about it amount to no more than 50. Most of us will not pay to see this. If someone downloads it and burns me a copy, sure-- I'll check this shit out. I'm still hoping its bad enough that its hilarious. The first one didn't quite reach that plateau though. It was boring.
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Bobby B looked up and shouted HEY MAMMY!! That's my MY MAMMY!!
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I don't want to make you repeat all your criticisms, I know how insanely frustrating that can be *wink* *wink*, but I would have to hear more specifics to properly respond. I think some of the Two Face stuff at the end was forced (why the fuck would he go after Gordon??) but by and large I disagree compeltely.
As for the plot holes, that is stuff that falls well within suspension of disbelief for any comic book film, and what I loved about Dark Knight over the RIDICULOUSLY overrated Batman Begins was that it was far less coy about wearing it's pulp comic roots on its sleeve. It's realism jibed much better with its lack thereof than the first outing, in other words. You could ask questions like "How did the joker smuggle all that gasoline onto those freighters?? Or buy it all without the cops tracing it??" but look he's a comic book villain thats insanely clever and resourceful that couldnt exist in the real world without getting caught in half a minute and simple logistical questions like that are easily tossed aside without falling into the realm of apologizing. I mean if you can't at least meet it halfway then maybe any film based on a superhero isnt for you. The Dark Knight was better at setting up it's Gotham city as a place that doesnt entirely exist in our world. Where cops and criminals have that sort of back and forth and people don't instantly recognize the obviousness of Batman being Bruce Wayne. Part of your problem might be that Begins, which I admit I outright dont like because its a sloppy film that can't find its tone, spent so much of its running time unsuccessfully trying to answer these pointless logistical tropes that clearly are unexplainable in a non comic book environment, and that sense of faux realism carried over into Dark Knight, which as far as Im concerned takes place in a totally different world. -
The man wrote Empire of the Sun and Crash (not the Oscar winning crapfest), is gone. Empire of the Sun was one of my favorite theater going experiences when I was a wee lad, and Crash left me many tissues short of a full box. R.I.P good sir.
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By his "shoulders". We cut to a shot of the fallen's rear end, where loads of brown sludge comes out. Optimus retracts his face plate and raises an eyebrow in a mixture of surprise/anger/disgust/pity (ILM is really hoping to score that oscar). "What's that smell?!?" Optimus asks his foe. Cut to Fallen looking whipped/embarassed/defeated. "D-D-D-D-D-D-D-doooooookieeeeeee!!"
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That just because you allow that bit of meta pulp fakery into your movie doesn't mean it ahs to be a fucking cartoon like Batman & Robin or the awful Wolverine film. It can still be great cinema filled with richh character and deal with larger themes. And for the record no I didn't expect Transformers to deal with larger themes, but the stronger sense of character is a MUST for any good film.
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Apr 19, 2009 7:23:43 PM CDT
Industry, did you just make the apology "Its a comic book film?"
by d.vader
Really? Plot holes are okay in the Dark Knight bc "Hey, its a comic book film." But its not okay (in your eyes) for someone to defend Transformers by saying "Its based on a toy"?
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Not much continued, though. The thing is, I had the argument in the past and I'm not looking to have it again. I don't want you to respond. Not because I don't want to hear it, but because I guarantee you I already HAVE heard it. It would be just the same as the "it's a toy commercial" arguments that get you riled on this TB. It comes down to whether or not the tone of the film allows you to suspend disbelief. I, personally, felt like the whole film tries desperately to make you believe in the reality of Gotham and Batman. In doing so, it makes all the shit that doesn't logically track stand out that much more. If it was't so concerned about being taken seriously, I probably wouldn't have given it such a hard time. Alternately, I love Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 and completely suspend my disbelief for those because the tone allows me to do so.
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Apr 19, 2009 7:36:28 PM CDT
IF BAYFORMERS IS SO GREAT, WHY THE NEED TO DEFEND IT?
by bringingsexyback
Because in their heart of hearts, they know it's terrible. No one is denying your right to a guilty pleasure that is Bayformers, just please don't try to convince the rest of us it's any good. Thank you!
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JUST TO PISS YOU OFF!!
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I don't blame you, man. I can't imagine it being inspirational writing for Bay.
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No? Okay, Transformers was great all haters are FAGS!! how about now? ;)
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Well you're doing a fine job of it, sparky!!!!
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Okay, that's a good excuse.
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Fucking me in the eye
Bayformers
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Thank goodness for Bayformers!
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Oh man, I do see what you guys are talking about for the Day The Earth Stood Still pics... yikes. What happened darlin? Come to Uncle Fowl, I'll make it all better.
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I'm not convinced by your argument. It’s a chicken or the egg dilemma. The toys for Star Wars were available before the film was in the theater. And the perceived depth of the Star Wars universe mostly occupied the mindscape of children, as well. I saw the first one in the 70’s as a four year old, and it’s flaws are so obvious to me, now: dreadful dialogue, warmed over Jungian/Campbellian plot, hokey acting, Kurosawa swipes, etc. Star Wars owes its success to McQuarrie and the art and effects people.Harry Potter is also hardly unique. The Books of Magic series covered a strikingly similar character years before, but with more heart, gritty realism, and true fright. Rowling also leans heavily on the tropes from the English boarding school genre.Transformers is no more or less worthy, simply because it's characters and plots were developed after the fact. The writers were inspired by the toy's aesthetic and potential, where Lucas and Rowling were inspired by other people's imagery.
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to The G.I. Joe: Resolute cartoon shorts, above -- it demonstrates how a proven writer (in this case, Warren Ellis) can craft a serious, updated take on an 80's toy property, and also manage to remain faithful to the original and satisfy ~both~ the old and new fans (and he probably doesn't give two shits about G.I. Joe, and most likely dislikes the U.S. military given his other works). This is not to discount Larry Hama's original, which pushed the comics code as far as it could go for a "kids" property, and also considering the pressure from Hasbro polluting the storyline with increasingly ridiculous lines of characters.
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In todays cinematic age Animated Films are written better then live Action films. If you take a look at the Pixar movies they're written almost perfectly. Intriuging storyline, interesting characters and unexpected plot twists, unlike their live action counterparts. The new animated Clone Wars is a perfect example. It makes a world of difference when you have someone who can actually write.
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and Dominoes Pizza; and the rest of the world thinks Soccer isn't boring, Kylie Minogue can sing, and that Bear Bile cures cancer.As we are talking QUALITY of a film vs. its appeal to RETARDS...whats you point? That most people are full retard? I Agree..look at TF1s numbers there is the proof. But was it Good? Fuck No. Will this be good? Fuck No again!Don't you deserve better for your hard earned $12 and 2 hour investment? Or have you simply not yet realized you could have saved time and $ by staying home, drinking Jagermeister and spinning around till you spew and then pass out...same entertainment value, a lot cheaper.
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I did the last one..and no amount of 35 pass cleans and free space shredding can remove the stain on my HD. Not sure I want to waste the time and bandwidth on this one.
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I'm really hoping this one is in that hilariously bad territory. Its sort of a shame the first one was just moderately terrible, not enjoyably terribly. I think it might be Shia. I don't think anything can be fun with him in it. If Anthony Anderson was the main character....maybe. Shit, speaking of fat black guys, BERNIE MAC-- not in Transformers 2 obviously. Fuck. Much like his appearance in those HIV test receptacle Ocean movies-- he was the only tolerable part.
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Apr 19, 2009 9:28:42 PM CDT
Who said anything about Transformers having plot holes?
by dannyglovers_dickblood
I don't think it has holes, the story just means nothing to me, and its populated by some of the most unlikable characters ever put on film. Thats not a plot-hole....that just a smorgasbord of stupidity. I don't think the story is smart enough to even have a plothole.
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Seriously, how can you make the fucking Autobots even more pansy than flames? I know, CRYING!!! The GIANT FUCKING ROBOT THAT CAN TAKE OVER THE WORLD....FUCKING CRIES!!!!
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If I don't have a problem with you hating the film,would you have a problem with me liking it?
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..want to try and watch the first movie all the way through for the 3rd time.....almost. Gotta give it up for the cg and the carnage, holy jeebus it looks awesome, movie effects have sure come a long way in my lifetime.
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http://tinyurl.com/c22zde
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Like away. Some people like Formula 1 others Nascar, some like Mortons or Ruths Cris other think Sizzler is just dandy, and yes...some people like Transformers. Don't take it personally friend...its a free country (not really), but ya gotta understand...we will ask you WHY you liked it, and probably make 1000 posts as to why you should not.
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transformers...but purely as a guilty pleasure. Not for one second do I think Bay is a good director or that transformers is a good movie. I have fond memories of the cartoon when i was a child, and i had some of the toys. But when i saw the cartoons a few years ago i realized how bad they were...memory can really play tricks on how you perceive something. In short i found TF1 to be like a big loud live action saterday morning cartoon. I prefer more mature, intelligent genre movies like TDK, The Matrix or Aliens etc...by far. But I dont need every movie i see to be that. Sometimes im just in the mood for junk food....
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is bad...is pretty spot on. Bay gets how to do spectacle and throw every cent of his production budget up on screen, but geez..he really has no clue how to establish the geography of an action scene, or how to use action as an extension of emotion or to drive the plot forward (not that he really knows what a plot is either lol). And fuck me does he overuse close ups and shaky cams...can be really difficult to see clearly whats happening.
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bigger, louder and with more spectacle....basically the biggest most expensive looking saterday morning cartoon ever made...
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As Batman Begins. In fact I remember having this EXACT argument when that came out about how fast and loose Nolan plays with the "realism" of his world and how badly he's trying to have it both ways. So I do understand your point completely and it's not so much that I disagree with you as I just feel like The Dark Knight stands alone from Begins in the world it creates, I suppose you disagree. From the get go I felt Dark Knight took place in a much pulpier world than Begins. I think of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight like I think of the Star Wars OT and The Prequels. The Prequels are some other, suckier reality. I know you didn't want to continue this discussion, but I wanted to show that I understand and....if you ever need to talk, well, I'm here to listen friend.
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and stuff blowing up. It'll do. You know how its going to improve on the first one? Giant-er robots and more stuff blowing up. Thats all I'm expecting and ill be happy with that.
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That's all Iw ant. i people to ADMIT it's a guilty pleasure. Now I bet if I said to southafricanguy "It's too bad cause Transformers as a franchise probably could have had a lot more going for it that what Bay gave." I bet he could FATHOM a world in which a much better Transformers movie exists without huffing and puffing about wanting "Shakespeare" (the go to writer for the uncultured) But he likes Transformers while admitting nothing about it is really any good. And you know what that fine, just admit it. The truth will set you free.
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especially real transformers fans, get so pissed off at these movies, as well as those that dont indulge in guilty pleasures...but the simple truth is you will not get any respected big name directors (spielberg, Cameron, Jackson, Scott, Nolan etc..) to do something like transformers. No matter what anybody says the source material was a 30 min toy commercial (before anyonre attacks me im just repeating the simple fact of why the toon was originally made) it just happened to have some writers that put some effort and imagination into givimg it more depth and mythology than the average toyline gets. But its still seen as inherently juvenile and silly by any director that wants to be taken seriously. Or who wants to elevate genre films to a higher level by challenging the main streams preconceived ideas about said genre films. So Im afraid that Bay is as good as its going to get...
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and it goes without saying that a transfrmers movie could be so much better if it was being made by someone that understood the power of mythology and how to use it to craft a credible sci-fi film. But as stated above its unlikely with this particular franchise. Would love to be proven wrong....Maybe someone else can do TF3 and we can find out
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astic the trailer for TF2 looks...pure junk food lol
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It was never really going to happen the ideal way. Which is quite a shame given how much money there obviously was to be made off this. What bothered me the most though, the unforgiveable sin, is how the Transformers themselves just had ZERO personality. Even Prime, voiced by the great CUllen, didn't particularly register. The dialogue and situations int eh old cartoon can certainly be silly, but they did craft and interesting mythology and the characters, mostly due to the great voice acting, were very clearly defined and at the very least a lot better than what we got in the movie. So for something that most people in this talkback deride this "toy commercial" had that going for it in spades over the film. I don't blame Bay for that as much I do for his terrible filmmaking.
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The last time I felt as numb as I did watching Transformers, was when I watched the awesommers crapfest that was The Mummy Returns.
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thats most unforgivable. Why did nt the individual robots have any distinct personalities? Its the one thing that nshould have been easy. But thats Bay's great failing as a director, he has no understanding of character, or mythological archetypes to be able to invest non-human characters with anything resembling a personality
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u can enjoy them as mindless bombast, but not as anything with any depth whatsoever...
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dude, god those mummy movies sucked. But then Sommers is like Bay's retarded younger brother lol
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Bay can't even invest his human characters with personality. The Voight and Turturro roles were far bigger cartoons than anything in the G1 series.
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director you will get doing something like GIJOE. I mean geez the trailer already looks like a live action team america (which the movie does nt even seem to realize), but thats inherent to the source material...so what big name respected director with a brain cell is going to mtouch it with a 10 foot pole?......step up Mr Sommers!
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characters becos the actors playing them can sometimes still inject some personality into the one dimensional/stereotype characters that inhabit Bay's movies. But Cgi characters that have not been performed by an actor useing mo-cap? Well you get the transformers with almost no personality to make any of them different form each other...
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he really does throw every damn cent of his production on the screen. He's good at knowing when to use practical effects and when to use cgi (unlike Sommers who thinks every effect should be done via cgi). And he does know how to do large scale chaos/spectacle. But its always spoiled by his inability to tell a story, to develop characters beyond a surface level, and to shoot action coherently, or use it properly (as an extension of emotion or to truly propel the story forward). His use of magic hour lighting, shaky cam, close ups, and mtv style editing offset any strenghts that he may have...
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That is why the trailers and clips of Bay's films look so great. I have seen most of his films and haven't liked any of them. Yet, everytime I see the trailer for his next film, I have to stop and remind myself who the director is. Pearl Harbor was the last straw. The attack scene was his best work, but the rest was dreadful. However, ILM did great work on the new BumbleBee.
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big, trashy live action saterday morning cartoons, purely enjoyable at a surface level. For adult, intelligent, well thought out sci-fi I have the new Star Trek and Avatar. Should be really interesting to contrast the final action set piece of TF2 in Egypt with the final action set piece of Avatar. Both are going to be epic, and just huge spectacle. But with Cameron there will be no shaky cam, he will pull back and use long shots to establish the geography of the action, no mtv style editing, and you will give a shit about the characters so that the action has an impact imho...
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tHE best thing about the transformers movie (and it looks like the sequal) has been ILM'S effects, cant fault them...they were soo robbed at the oscars (for fucks sake the golden compass??), but i digress...
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I agree that ILM was robbed and with the great work they are doing on Trek, Terminator, Transformers and Potter this year, they will still lose out to Avatar. Shame.
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other hand Digital Domain wins no matter what since they are working on both TF2 and Avatar...
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OP says Megatron wanted to use "The Cube" to turn Earth's machines against humans. But then it's revealed Megatron landed on Earth 1000 years ago. Was he going to sit around and wait for Ford to build the first Model T's? Never made any sense to me, correct me if I'm wrong.
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...not bored yet??! How long can somebody bicker about a Bay movie? Duh, silly me! Forever! So, I think 'Lord of the Rings' should be remade with Bay as the director. Big explosions with orcs flying everywhere. Whoo-hoo! Will Smith as Gandalf. Ok seriously, I re watched Bad Boys 2 last night and it is very very silly.
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This film is based on a toy I used to play with and a Saturday morning cartoon I used to watch in the 4th grade. The first one entertained me but I was never expecting a Dark Knight level of drama. The first one made me think of the cartoon a lot. Mainly in the level of silliness. It's giant fucking robots. If I get more cartoon silliness I'll be happy. DGDB, your vitriol makes me chuckle.
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in Kaapstaad? En het jy die ou Star Trek flicks gekyk?
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aining about Bay the way some are, as stated above, i enjoy his movies for what they are, but never am I under any illusions about his shortcomings as a director is all....
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...sort this out arguing. Let's rather fight! Fight me! http://ged1grrrr.mybrute.com
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Keeps asking for a password for me. Bummer.
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Brute??? You need to make your own to challenge if that is what you are talking about.
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Is because it will be entertaining. If people are bitching about the movie complaining about the pissing and crying robots... then they don't know the first thing about being entertained. If it was 2 hours of robots being serious, not saying anything, only acting heroic when called upon... this would be a pretty boring movie. Yes it's childish but TF is a movie based on a toy line for CHILDREN. A crying robot is SILLY... just as is robots that transforms into cars... just as is a robot war fighting over power and an 'allspark'... just as is humans taking them seriously... it's all silly... but very entertaining at the same time. If you want a realistic story based on serious events, go watch fucking Schindlers List!
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I think these TF TB's are what true AICN is all made of. Sure we've measured the sheer fecal velocity in those lovely little political TB's. No, no one's ever had the brass cohones to actually have what would be so kick ass, BATTLE ROYALE 2000!! but I was thinking since the political thing is dead or at least stinky..perhaps we could do the same with you Bay/Transformer lovers and haters?Our very own tribute to both Transformers, Mikey Bay, and action cinema!In the RED corner sits the fans of Bay's Transformers. Defenders to the last with weapons of precise, absolutist, and unimpeachable logic, the Transformer Fans are ready to take their love of everything Shia, Megan, and Bay, and awkward idiosyncratic, modern colloquial one-liners right to the throats of the "HATERS"!In the BLUE corner sits the ever present Bay's Transformer HATERS! With their seeming manic need to have every action movie as good as Die-Hard, Aliens, or Predator...their need to bring up Bay, prostitutes, cocaine, and ass cracks and their desire to have both excellent and mindless fun all in one.Personally, I'd have to give it to the Fans/Lovers crowd as they're willing to either ignore or tolerate such terrible agony that they're likely to win on sheer tenacity alone.
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You must not be a die hard fan of the original -- it never aired on Saturdays. Transformers was a syndicated show that aired weekdays. ;-)
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Steven Spielberg executive produced Transformers and TF: ROTF. His hands and input are all over these films.
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"Tranformers! Robots in disguise...Tranformers! More than meets the eye!"...all done in that great synthe-cylon robot voice (I actually have a synth that does that...I always scream the lines out to that song, everybody loves it).But then I hear this "You're a Winner!" song and something about a guy with a giant dong singing it in a porn movie and I'm all wtf'd out. Natch.
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Dude, this is a film fan site. Of COURSE we want films to be as good as they can. You want to ask for second best? Go to aintitaverage.com
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That's how I know she's a he.
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For shit.
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I like this remix: http://tinyurl.com/cosxfe
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Yup, totally jacked off to that.
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In fact I agree 100% with the "Uhh, hello? Morons? Good story and kick ass action are NOT mutually exclusive concepts!!!" idea but I still like to have fun with this notion of how opposed people are to each other's opinions of this particular film. You'd think it was politics or religion or Terminator: Salvation. Or something.
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I'm pretty sure that this is gonna be the best movie of the summer. But who knows? I predicted Spider-Man 3 was gonna kick ass, and then it was lame and Transformers was the best movie of the summer. I'm not infallible.
Oh yeah... and haters can suck it! Go watch the crappy cartoon from the 80's if that's what you wanna do. -
That half of you will hate Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen and the other half will love it. And then we'll get hours of reading fun as you both prescribe various method of mother fucking and cavernous and carnivorous asshole investigations.
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Season 1 G1 was in syndication on Saturday Morings at 10:30 am in in my end of Canada. Season 2 was weekdays. I was diehard when I was 9. Now it's just nostalgic for me.
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tongue in cheek people...least they're giving the bots some personality. As for the action shots....Let's put it this way, I'll be seeing it. Your opinions mean nothing to me, keep on flaming all you brainless douches with nothing resembling a life.
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http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Ruined_forever
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http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Ruined_forever
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Ah, I see. Canadia schedule. I was teasing about the die hard thing, mind you.
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http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Ruined_forever
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http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Ruined_forever
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"Haters"? You remind me of that episode of The Simpsons when Bart kept using way outdated ebonics.
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"We all know Transformers was RUINED FOREVER back in 1986 when they killed Optimus Prime. Then it was RUINED FOREVER again because of the Action Masters. Then it was RUINED FOREVER yet again because of the munkys. And then because of hippies. And then because of a reboot. Once more because of the Pokeformers. Once more because of terrible dubbing. Then because of the excessive amounts of stock footage. Then because of perverts. Then because of Bayformers. And most recently, because of Teen Titans."
http://kotaku.com/5220597/this-is-how-you-get-me-interested-in-a-transformers-game
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You remind me of a hater.
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... it's hard to get excited about this. Never liked the Tranformers cartoon (G1, I think you call it?) though I did catch some of BEAST WARS and thought it was well done. I thought Vern's take on the first movie was spot on (the Robot action was unwatchably busy). But, as a dollar rental, on DVD, I got a few chuckles out of the mom and dad's scenes. This looks exactly the same as the last one. Dollar Rental. Couple of chuckles expected. Megan Fox is a skank, no draw for me there.
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I will never take any complaints about Transformers seriously anymore, because of 'RUINED FOREVER'. (Well, except for stuff about 'perverts' and bad dubbing). Nope, if the wiki for your own fandom make fun of you, it's hard to care.
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I thought you were teasing. It's all awesome!!! Sector_11374265. I'm down with what you say on haters.... Has anyone noticed the footage was removed... Anyone who saw and didn't copy it.....
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