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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION and CORRECTION! The Weirdest Casting Rumor of them All.... STAR WARS EPISODE TWO: Anakin
Hey folks Harry here. Just got this report in from Henry Pym (Who you may remember from this story from about 2 weeks ago) Well, he's written specifically to set us straight on the current state of ANAKIN casting. So here ya go...
Harry. What the hell are you thinking? I believe you posted that terrible rumor just to smoke me out about the state of the search for Anakin. The casting is going on and there is an Anakin List at the moment. However, unlike your dear Brendan, nearly all these candidates are all 18-20 years old. The group is made up nearly exclusively of unknown Americans and Canadians. Back in May there was a gigantic Casting Session that took place for several days in the great American SouthWest.
A close female friend of mine, a Janet Van Dyne was on hand and says that 3 of the top possible choices for Anakin have some Independent films that will most likely be getting in to SUNDANCE next January. She wouldn't give me their names or the films' names simply because that is how tight-lipped it is on the film right now. Also, I can assure you that no really famous name that is currently being spoken on websites or newsgroups is even on the Anakin list at the moment they are all minor actors and virtual unknowns; names like Ryan Phillipe, Hayden Christensen, Christian Bale, and Sean Patrick Flanney to name a few. I must return to my ant hill.
Dr Henry Pym
Meanwhile, Mr Bigglesworth was in Halifax looking for a fur coat and found out where the Brendan Fraser rumor came from, here ya go...
Just thought I'd write in and let you know where I believe the Brenden
Fraser as Anakin rumour came from and given that, it's probably 100%
bogus. I live in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia (part of greater Halifax) and
one of the major city papers is the Halifax Daily News, or just The
Daily News, and much of their entertainent news comes from a wire
service named WENN. What it stands for, or where it's based I do not
know, but the same wire service a few months ago reported that Arnold
Schwarzenegger was going to play the in a movie where he becomes the
Tooth Fairy and just a week ago or so said that EON was planning to
have the next James Bond after Brosnan to be black (apparently one prime
candidate was the black actor that appears in the beginning at MI6
headquarters, his names escapes me right now). Any how here's the
article they printed just yesterday (THURSDAY):
BRENDEN FRASER SET TO BE NEXT DARTH VADER
Forget about it, Leonardo DiCaprio. Sorry, James van der Beek. Ryan
Phillipe, to bad.
Canadian actor Brendan Fraser is in line to star in the next Star Wars
blockbuster. The Mummy hero has been earmarked to play Anakin Skywalker
- the character who turns into the evil Darth Vader, played by
10-year-old Jake Lloyd in the first intstalment of the sci-fi epic.
George Lucas is already in talks with the 32-year-old about plans for
the follow-up to The Phantom Menace.
You can call the paper at (902) 468-1222 or email them at
citydesk@hfxnews.southam.ca
Thanks for reading,
Mr. Bigglesworth
Below here is a rumor that has been disproven completely. SO do not spread it any further...
Sigh. Well Moriarty my friend. I know you are reading this, and I'm truly sorry to upstage your 'weird' rumors of casting and directing, but... I've had 7 people this week tell me this same bit of rumor. And I'm calling it a RUMOR, not fact.. not yet anyway. If true... Well, I don't know. If this is true, then somewhere... somehow, I'd have to think in my noggin that Dudley Do-Right and George Of The Jungle have become Darth Vader... And that just feels... weird. But hey.... At least if it's true I've shared a scene in an upcoming movie with the future Dark Lord of the Sith.... Sigh... Here ya go..
Hey Harry love your site and everything big fan. Never had the urge to
write until now. I heard some great bit of gossip about everyone
favorite space family. Thats right the Skywalkers and who will it be
playing Anakin in Episodes 2 and 3? Not DiCaprio, who by the way I
think would have been good, but Brendan Fraser. He has all but signed
on. We all know he is a pretty big dude so maybe that explains why
Vader is so big.
Just wanted to let you know Harry.
You can call me Cru Jones
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Ai Caramba!
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Fraser really has no talent, the mummy was hideous.
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Brendan Frasier, aw come the f$^ on!!!! now admittedly, Star Wars is at the heart, a kids movie, but to have a character that exudes such a saturday morning cartoon character as Anakin is WAY overboard... Don't get me wrong, I'm one of the few who like Jar Jar, I'm one of the people who likes and accepts the silly elements of Star Wars... but a goofy looking, overly heroic looking Anakin? Come on!!!
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I don't know about that. Maybe?!?!?!? He's not a BAD actor, he's big, and he can handle a sword. But he might look too old for 20. Maybe the third episode, but not the next one.
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Has anyone who's posted knocking Fraser even seen either School Ties or Gods and Monsters? If they have, they know that he has more acting depth than his stupid roles (which have made him a lot of money, by the way) like George of the Jungle and The Mummy have shown. Granted, he wasn't my first choice either, but they could definitely do a lot worse. Some people will never be happy.
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Just can't get enough of these casting rumors. Is it true? Maybe...maybe not. But then again, I never would have thought about using Liam as Qui-Gonn, either.
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How many times does the point have to be reiterated? Casting is NOT going to happen until September at the absolute earliest! No dotted lines will be signed, no phone calls will be made and no lunches will be done! So any rumors I hear until then will be completely dismissed as complete and total fanboy bullshit. And for the sake of all of your sanities, I suggest you do the same.
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Ummmm...
Can I just say that George Lucas is not stupid at all...
I doubt wheather Brendan will play Darth (Anakin), seriously.
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Yeah right!!! Encino Man as Anikan. As Cher said "WHATEVER!!!!!!"
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Did anyone notice this rumor comes with no source. Hey, I'll make one up too: I have heard from -ahem- people that Mathew Lillard will be the young Vader, oh no wait, I mean Jason Biggs from American Pie, no actually I've heard it's actually Paul Reubens completing his big come back. Casting isn't going to be finished for a while. For Christ's sake Lucas doesn't even have a script yet. It's going to be a while fellas. Be patient young jedis.
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Encino Man as Darth Vader? I ain't even a Star Wars fan, but even I can make the call on this one... I mean, he's like... thirty years old. Anakin was like, 10 or something in Phantom Menace. Hell, they look nothing alike. I look more like that Jake Lloyd kid than Brendan Fraser... well, only time will tell. Hopefully his acting will cover up the fact that they just don't look alike...
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Okay, I liked Gods and Monsters a lot. I even liked Blast from the Past for the most part. But Brendan Fraser as Darth Vader? I can see him now, swinging through the trees with Jar Jar Binks.... Now all we need is Pauly Shore as the Emperor's new apprentice. Maybe Anakin could be frozen in some ice......
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Fraser is doing the Mummy 2, as Variety has reported. Knowing George Lucas, he's going to need Fraser free at all times. Flash this rumor down the toliet.
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Even though Frasier can be over the top, I can actually picture him being the greatest hero in the galaxy (unlike DiCaprio, Ryan Phillipe, the Dawson's Creek guys, or almost all the other rumors). Also, as someone has already pointed out, he has done good dramatic work too. Edward Norton would still be best but this works too (despite being a little older). Finally, rumors of Ewan McGregor's casting in TPM started a full year before the official announcement from Lucasfilm so sooner or later one of these "crazy" rumors will be true. Besides, September is just over a month away. There's no reason to think they wouldn't already have started doing SOMETHING (why wait?).
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I don't think so... First of all, Brendan Fraser is not young enough to play Anakin Skywalker (he's in his late teens, early twenties and Fraser is in his late 20's). Secondly, he doesn't even have the looks! Thirdly, he doesn't even talk like an Anakin! You're right, Harry... This is a cwazy rumor!
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Jul 30, 1999 11:07:29 AM CDT
Brendan v. Leo. Go Brendan, it's your birthday! It's your birt
by omega
Is there even a pause with this? Brendan. Leo. Leo. Brendan. Bye you scrawny sissy boy non-actor. Hello ripped guy non-actor. He may not be a bad ass, or even a decent actor but Hamill was a wretched actor too. At least Brendan fits the physical ideal (plus he can rip out like he did for George), unlike ninny-boy Leo. So go Brendan.
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I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that anyone previously involved in a movie in which Pauly Shore was starring will not be considered for role in any upcoming Star Wars film.
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So, everyone seems to know what the casting for Episode II is, huh? Well, if you happened to go to the OFFICIAL Star Wars web-site, you would have noticed that they aren't even going to begin thinking about casting until late September, at the earliest.
Anyway, I'm going to be playing Anikin. He's going to be a chain smoking slacker that plays video games all night long instead of learning the Jedi ways. Momma always said TV was the root of all evil. -
Doesnt matter who they pick alot of you fuckin people are still gonna bitch and moan like little girls.
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Whoa, this is some kind of nightmare. Brendan Fraser is such a dweeb. This is making that Dicaprio thing look pretty good, not that I reallly hated it. The only good thing is that Fraser is pretty old. Maybe Lucas will set this thing further in the future than we thought, ditch Natalie Portman as Amidala, get over this Sumatran monkey fever which is directing him toward Fraser, and cast the correct mid twenties guy. Thats right, Edward Norton. Scary, got that. Noble, he's got that. The dude rules.
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Go see Gods & Monsters. He can act. Besides, after TPM, who gives a fuck anymore.
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Are you all forgeting who will be writing and directing this movie? If we hear that JarJar wont be back--then i would say Lucas has been listening...otherwise you can expect other piece of garbage from George "One Trick" Lucas. Star Wars without Gary Kurtz is like Howard the Duck or Radioland Murders in space.
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...that this is true. If Brendan fraser is cast as Anakin I will sell all 150 of my starwars figures and become a trekkie!
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Little Alex, I'm going to bitch and moan like a little girl deprived of her favorite Barbie doll, but Brendan Fraser rumor is all bantham fodder and Jabba's craps. I won't believe any rumors til September or October, give or take.
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I feel numb !
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If this is truth then the "end" might truly be near...
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crude, but abslutely right. i can't believe how many people are complaining that the very creator of the Star Wars franchise would like to finish his vision. the very nerve. so far no matter what is done, the 'fans' have screamed and complained. was macGregor a good cast? Liam Neeson? Ray Park? let Lucas decide whose right for the part he's writing instead of jumping all over him based on the latest rumors. based on splash and big, how many of you would have cast tom hanks in saving private ryan?
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Hey I think Fraiser's not a bad guy. He's probably done far too much comedy lately but the guy could do it and probably well. He's about the right build and looks like he could kick ass. My problem is that he might look to old to be playing Anakin in the sequel. So I'd like to see Josh Hartnett from the Faculty get the role. No matter what, though, this sounds a hell of a lot better than that DiCaprio rumour.
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he was fanatastic in the MUMMY yielding a sword and fighting all the zombies..just imagine a lightsaber vs the sith or the mandalorians
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Damn...here's a rumor you guys need. James Earl Jones is gonna play Anakin and they're just gonna use CG for the body. Who cares. Lucas is a very strict director so whoever they get is just going to be cattle.
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Fraser would be fine as Anakin, all of you know that so stop your bitchin'. I have no clue if this is remotely true but who cares, we don't all get our fantasy casting choices to come true.
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What a joke.
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I went to school with Brendan Fraser -- Cornish College in Seattle. Secret dirt you won't see on any E! profile: (1) He was a mime. (2) He used to date the ugly girls. (3) He didn't have a car, and needed to be driven around, even when he was a senior. (4) He was a moderately talented performer, but by no means the best actor in his class; if you meet him, ask him about Tom Kiehfuss. (5) He has a really small penis. ...E-mail me directly for more.
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First of all, its funny that TPM sucks so bad, yet it is the 3rd highest grossing film of all time. Second of all, all casting rumours for Anakin have been way off. As I've said before in previous talk-backs, I have it from a HIGHLY reliable source that, indeed, Anakin will be played by none other than Woody Allen. The young Han Solo will also be introduced, to be played by the versatile Ralph Maccio(sp?). And, (this is for all you pop-casting 90's freaks out), Bruce Willis will be introduced as none other than Grand Moff "the man" Tarkin!...
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Although he's a fine actor (forget The Mummy and whatever - watch Gods and Monsters), he'll be about 32 by the time the start filming. He doesn't look 20 years old....
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If you saw him in Gods and Monsters (don't hold the mummy against him...or god forvid dudley DoRight) you'll know that he can actually act. Do you think that there will be any scenes requiring Annakin to go topless in the next episode?
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Ok, before anyone else gets upset- Doesn't anyone remember the idiotic rumor going around before episode 1 that Charlton Heston was going to be Yoda? Or that Darth Maul was going to be a clone of Obi-Wan? IT'S JUST A RUMOR!!! And a bad one at that. Lucas has already said that Anakin will be about 19 in Ep. 2. That puts Frasier way too old. Anyway, he was great in the Mummy. Even if it turned out to be true, I wouldn't mind.
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The age thing makes it a bit odd, but you'd think there'd've been enough improbable castings that have worked that people would learn not to pre-judge. A weirder rumour would be if they cast Sarah Michelle Geller as Anakin. :-) Personally, I say cast Ray Park as Anakin. :-) :-)
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Darth, Darth, Darth of the Empire, strong (in the Force) as he can be...Darth, Darth, Darth of the Empire, watch out for Kenobi!
Oh, man, I got a Psych final comin up and I needed that laugh. So lemme guess: Jar-Jar tags along with Annie (played by Fraser in a orange wig and a cute lil red dress) until the Clone Wars where he deserts him. Later, while searching with Amidala for the lost treasure of Alderaan's richest pharaoh Jar-Jar returns leading a group of Corellian thrill-seekers on the same quest. Hilarity ensues. Am I close? -
Even Keenu Reeves think Brendan Fraser is an idiot.
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Encino Man, George of the Jungle, The Mummy, and we can't forget. . . AIRHEADS. C'mon youse guys. He's not that bad. And he was good in Gods and Monsters. And, I don't care what anyone says. I liked "The Mummy."
I liked "George of te Jungle." I liked "Airheads." And, really, who didn't like "Encino Man?" But as far as him being Anakin... Well, first off, I think it's total bull. Second, if it were so, it wouldn't be so bad. I mean, Ewan McGregor was Obi Wan. Or am I the only one who's seen "A Life Less Ordinary?" But, how do I know it's not him? Because I am playing Anakin Skywalker in "Star Wars: Episode II." So there. Bite me. -
With all due respect, of course they're bitchin! If there weren't no bitchin it'd be a pretty fuckin borin forum.
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Whenever there is a RUMOR about Episode II casting, you can always count on some asshole typing "Nooo! God, no!" My only question is there anyone who will make everyone happy?
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Jul 30, 1999 1:04:09 PM CDT
**NEW RUMOR ALERT**..............NEIL PATRICK HARRIS TO PLAY ANA
by misterwinkie
WELL it is my turn to live in the spotlight.....this rumor is way off. The sender knows it. I mean..i like Brendan fraiser...but only as those dumb lovable type charaters...that he almost always plays...this wouldnt work for him or the star wars fans..............:)
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George,
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Screw it, let's just let DiCaprio be Anakin. Portman's 18 now, so she could do the "artistic"-though-not-necessarily-essential-to-the-story nude scene and the whole movie can take place on a big starship in a decaying orbit over Coruscant. If that wouldn't start a resistance movement out of basement's all over suburban America culminating in a siege of Skywalker Ranch by a legion of lethal losers, it just might work.
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Attn: Site Editor (if none exists, I'm not surprised). Instead of rambling on and on, trying in vain to build up interest in your little story, just spit it out. The teaser should have read "George of the Jungle is Darth Vader?", and the copy should have contained one line commenting on how specious the likelyhood was and just said "some goofballs think DV's going to be Brendan Fraser". That's it. No mealy mincing and fluff, just the NEWS (as in AIC NEWS). That way I could have just scanned the headline and dismissed this nonsense instead of having to wade through the needless background. It's like when the local new teases it's 10 o'clock segment with "There's something in your house that will kill you!" or "We know where the hurricane will strike -- tune in at 10 to find out!"
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Hey, I love Brendan Fraser. I don't think he's an idiot like Keanu. (Look at Gods and Monsters) The truth is, he acts a fool too wonderfully. He's just at ease with himself playing an 'airhead'. Not posing too serous. I honestly believe he could pass for a major action hero. (See, the MUMMY works! He's a lovable hero there - the weak script is never his fault) Not to mention he could pass for a viable prince charming.(He's got a look)
However, I am definitely against him playing Anakin. Uh-huh, Come on, Anakin is Darth Vader. Our Charismatic hero in SW@ has got to have that evil aura around him. Leo can smile heavenly but he also can display that chillingly evil spark in his eyes. But, Brendan... He just seems to be a through-and-through-good-guy. Fine for Rick O'Connell. Anakin, never. I just can't buy him for a bad guy(with or without good side). His potential lies somewhere else.
Jake Lloyd was too naive, too. I think it's one of many drawbacks of Episode 1. He lacked that chillingly ominous spark in his eyes. Too nice-looking, just a cute boy. His Anakin was insipid. not-enough convincing. Don't make the same mistake twice, Mr. Lucas. Leo would be just wonderful.
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Eddie Murphy as Anakin....that would explain a lot....GO VADER!!!!!! "Return of the Beverly Hills Jedi" I also picked George Burns to play Shimi Skywalker but he's dead...SO GET BILL GATES! Tanya Harding as grand Moff Tarkin and Gary Coleman as Yoda....YAY!
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If you saw Gods and Monsters then you know Brendan Fraser can create a sympathetic character with some depth. And his timing is down from all the dumb comedy movies. I think he could pull out the performance of his life and really change the dynamic of the prequels (thank God).
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I think he could physically capture the future Darth Vader. The only problem is that he is not a good match with Natalie Portman. I mean for god sakes Natalie Portman and Brendan Frasier would not be a good match at all. I just don't see any chemistry between those two actors. I do think that Frasier could capture the physical presence of Darth Vader, but thats it.
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Hey, boys and girls! Ya listening? Well, anyhow, who the fuck cares? You know why? TPM was an absolute piece of trash. It has got to be, honestly, one of the worst movies I have ever seen. And my opinion isn't one of these stupid 'let's defy everyone else and be rebellious' things. IT REALLY SUCKED ASS. It is the silliest, stupidest, worst-written pieces of overwrought computer-ridden garbage ever. So, anyway, anything will be better. But still, Fraser blows. Did any of you who say he's good see The Mummy? Wow...and he wasn't that great in Gods...anybody looks good reading that script. Remember when he had to cry? It made Cruise's bawlfest in EWS look excusable...
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The propeller-heads and kiddies will line up for this CGI fest regardless of who plays the token human roles. Who cares if they can even act? No acting is required. Just look at the green screen and make two or three different faces. The geeks at ILM will pick whichever one fits into their cartoon.
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Jul 30, 1999 2:57:46 PM CDT
BULL!!!! Don't get me wrong, I like Brendon, but Leo would have
by dmodog
Enough said.
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NEW RUMOR! Mark Hammil has been rumored to now be old enough to play his own father. Though a bit short (for a Stormtrooper), he is willing to wear platform shoes and bellbottoms keeping with the Star Wars fashion design motif of clothing reminiscint of other lands and cultures. Specifically, Discoworld.
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NEW RUMOR! Mark Hammil has been rumored to now be old enough to play his own father. Though a bit short (for a Stormtrooper), he is willing to wear platform shoes and bellbottoms keeping with the Star Wars fashion design motif of clothing reminiscint of other lands and cultures. Specifically, Discoworld.
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I think he could handle the action part,and the dramatic part, too. He is a big dude, so Ewan Kenobi would look like a shrimp next to him.
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This rumor is true. So are these: Episode II will be a departure from the other Star Wars films. It will be a grand romantic epic. It will also be a musical. Ray Park has been signed already for the part of Darth Pickering. Episode III, of course, will be helluh dark with Mandalorian warriors armed with Salamandari on little leashes wiping Jedi out like it was going out of style.
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My only real problem with Dicaprio was his size, he's not the huge hulking mass that Vader was. Brendan is a big guy and would do well in the part
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Mark Hamill is actually petitioning to play, crotchety Uncle Owen. This RUMOR thing is sad, but hey, an excuse to talk Star Wars, hell yeah!
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It's this simple: hit movie=big buzz. The Mummy does well. Everyone involved (no matter their contribution) rides the wave of success. Brendan Fraser does very well in underwritten role of charming scalawag. Result? He gets attached to every big role coming down the chute...that is, the ones Leo has passed on already. So, now here's the ongoing Anakin rumor. Never mind the fact that Brendan, Leo, Joshua, James, Meshach, Shadrach and Abenego are all wrong for the role, they'll get buzz-connected to the role by their people. The wrong-rumor fire gets stirred by LFL's silence on the matter, but LFL is silent on EVERY matter until it's ready to talk, a tactic the rest of the industry is allergic to. I'm not even going to speculate on who'll play Anakin. Jonathan Winters could play Anakin and I'd still pay to see it. I'm going to sit back and wait until Master Lucas makes the announcement late this year. Oh, and by the way, that's two you owe me, asax.
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Fraser will not be Anakin...
Reason 1: Not casting yet
Reason 2: Too old, Ewan is younger than him
Reason 3: Appearance is not right, he's big enough (Vader had mechanical parts, Anakin as viewed at the end of "Jedi" was still big), but his features aren't right.
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How about casting Scott Speedman
from the TV show Felicty as Anakin.
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I cannot believe what I have been hearing about TPM being a bad movie. The truth is that there was probably no way any of you guys could be pleased. We live in very mean spirited times. It has been sixteens years since the last Star Wars film, but now that we finally get a new one, the first fucking thing you all do is pounce on it like a hungry cat, and devour it, without giving a chance to enjoy it. The truth is that most of you probably never wanted the prequels to happen, and instead wished that they were never made, or that you all hoped that George would make sequels instead! TPM was never given a chance! A wonderful magical film was given to us, but most didn't get it or did not want to get! Once again, You ungrateful bastards.
Lord Vader who is pissed today
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Other than a possible age issue, this doesn't seem like such a weird casting rumor to me. In fact, he might be exactly right for the part. There is a scene in the movie School Ties where Frasier, enraged at his schoolmates, stands outside in rain and yells "cowards!" at the top of his lungs because none will confront him man-to-man. That scene often struck me as exactly the kind of anger that Anakin will have to show at some point.
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I don't get the big "TPM" backlash either. What most of these cynics want is their childhood back, thier innocence, and a time when they were on easy street as far as money, mommy and daddy, etc, were concerned. It's INSIDE of you, you freaks. Not outside. Nobody who sat down with a clean slate, having never seen any of the "Star Wars" films, would detect any of this supposed "quality gap" between the first two Star Wars films and the last two. Yes, "Empire" is the best. And, yeah, "Jedi" is the least. But that's just relative: the four Star Wars pictures are the finest American fantasy films EVER produced, by a long long long way. It's an embarrasment of riches, the detail that Lucas slavishes on these pictures. The fact that we can spend five dollars to see "Phantom Menace" or the same amount to see "Big Daddy" or "Rush Hour" is ridiculous. The Star Wars films are insanely rich cavasses, seriously catchy mythology, and drop dead fun action. These slacker types who bitch and moan about "Phantom Menace" are soul-dead zombies, deeply cynical and sad to boot. To anyone on the outside, it is plainly obvious that we have all aged poorly. We sulk, we expect things to fail, we WANT things to be not very good. It excuses our own self-pity, and our self-serving smarminess. The reason "The Matrix" has been so lionized by twentysomethings is because it is CYNICAL and ugly (and, admittedly, very snappy.) There is no place in the mental wasteland that is the inner working of the painfully self-serious gen x-ers for a new "Star Wars" film. For must of us/them, things have not turned out okay. We're sad that we haven't been tested like our parents, we're sad that the music sucks so VERY VERY badly (lemme see, Limp Bizkit or The Beatles? Sorry folks, we got the shaft.), we're just BITTER and UGLY and STONED. All I can hope is that George Lucas doesn't listen to US about his new trilogy, but rather to the next generation of towheads, the kids who are lucky enough to a wonderful "Star Wars" of their own. As for me, I'm certainly as cynical as the next guy--but NOT about something as pure and lovely and human and breathtaking as the "Star Wars" films. And "The Phantom Menace."
And WHY does every single gen-x or gen-y ASSHOLE feel the need to moan and groan over EVERY choice, every ridiculous casting rumor involving these films? While I'm sure it will never happen, Brendan Fraser would make a FINE "Star Wars" hero. As would Leo. Most slacker guys simply can't stand attractive male actors, regardless of talent. This is a penis thing, to be disregarded. (I mean, come on...Ed Norton as Anakin? He's a terrific CHARACTER actor, not a leading man. He's not our boy, not for that role. And if it was announced that he WAS our boy, it would be met with as many groans as any other name you could possibly draw out of a hat. This generation is fetid and stale already, boring and witless. Where's a nice juicy World War when we need one, something to thin out these ranks (of which I am sadly one)? -
Yeah... I also heard that Anakin is coming out of the closet in Episode 2, that explains every thing.
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While Fraser as Anakin isn't THAT bad of an actor to play Anakin(good looks,height,ok acting), it is highly unlikely that he'll be playing Anakin. Natalie Portman isn't even 20 years old , while Brendan has already hit thirty.Lucas has officially said that the actor who will play Anakin will be 20 years old, and probably unknown. Casting doesn't officially begin untill after September. The script isn't even finished yet. They aren't 60 guys waiting to be screen tested as some people have said. These Rumours are kind of manipulative, and to be honest, they are kind of boring.
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I'm getting so tired of this crap. This rumor is so obviously garbage. Lucas doesn't even start casting for SW2 until the Fall. Besides, Fraiser is too old. They want a 20-21 year old.
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Yes, TPM was bad. Only EWS, AP2, Blair Witch, The Mummy, Notting Hill (...) were worse. Seriously, I can't wait to see imaginative piece of work from those nerds who bitches all the time. Ultimatly, the only true test, the one that goes beyond the critics and financial success, is the test of time. We'll see in 10 or 15 years from now. One of the clues (I think) to know if a movie will become a classic is to look for one or two scenes that people will remember years from now from a particular movie(anthology pieces). For now, I bet: Podrace, final lightsaber duel. Bye!
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I too wonder why people feel the need to bash TPM so relentlessly. Yet these same people jump all over these Ep2 rumours. First off, TPM is great (just opinion), i think your right when you say that cynical, dark sci-fi (The Matrix, i like that too by the way) is what those people enjoy. We live in different times than when Star Wars came out. Star Wars is inspiring as was TPM. It was a nice, entertaining movie, that kicked a lot of ass. the fact is that movies, music and any other "art" form are entertainment. That is it. All of you people who bitch and say that actors sell out and directors sell out are stupid. Being an actor is a job, just like whatever it is you do. Just like a job if you get offered something bigger and better, you take it. Just as you and i would, if we choose. I know i'm digressing from the point of this talkback, but i think it applies to other talkbacks and future ones as well. Would you like it if someone was telling you how to do your job? no you wouldn't. Just like George Lucas, wouldn't want someone to tell him how to do his job. If he cast Brendan Fraser, Leo, or Owen Wilson as Anakin, that is his decision alone. Some people who post here feel the need to give there opinions without one good reason, other than, "That guy is a pussy mother fucker, who licks his mom". You, just like me are entitled to your opinion. I think these talkbacks are designed to engage in intelligent discussion, about whatever piece of info is being presented. if you don't like something, please express it, but give a good reason. not just that he sucks. tell why you think he sucks. i'm sorry for going on about this, i just get tired of sifting through theses look for intelligent comments. which there are a lot off. i'm done now, sorry for this. Now about Fraser, I think he is a good actor and very charismatic, but i do think he is too old to play Anakin. I have great faith, that whoever Lucas picks, will be just fine. PS Limp Bizkit is awesome.
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Meesa luv Brendon Frasier!
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Well, he did play a psycho in that "The Scout" movie with Albert Brooks.
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Ye Gods! I have heard that leo,
ryan phillipe(is that right?),
keanu,and now branden!!!Sheesh!
Well,I will be one of the first to
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I'm no expert on Brendan Frasier films, but I have seen two: School Ties and With Honors. My conclusion from those two films is that this boy can not act. I take that back, I saw Encino Man as well and no acting talent there either. I'm not sure if SW was known for its acting strength, but clearly they need to step up the talent on Anakin's part. Brendan can not possibly fit the bill that George is looking for. Maybe Kenny Baker should take a more visual role in the next prequel. I personally don't agree with the addition of all these digital characters. Get back to the basics on this next prequel. Get good actors and the audience will come. Plot does matter. And if you have to have freaky looking characters added for effects, just add more dwarfs. Warrwick Davis won't even return my phone calls anymore. Who does he think he is? Some Hollywood big shot? Hey Warwick, everyone hated the Ewoks and Willow sucked!
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If only he was still alive, i believe RIVER PHOENIX would of been perfect for the role of Anakin Skywalker.
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Holy shit!
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Fraser has the big, blue-eyed look, the star quality, the sex appeal, and the talent...maybe. When he's good he can be stunning (Gods and Monsters, School Ties, and even Encino Man and Mrs Winterbourne). When he's not, he can be very lazy, and coast on his looks and charm (The Mummy, Airheads). It'd be a risk using him, he might be perfect, but in order to play the Hero Of The Galaxy Who Goes Wrong And Gets Enslaved he'd really have to stretch himself, particularly in Vader's fall and enslavement. AND he might have to do so while being directed by George Lucas who is, uh, not an actor's director to say the least.
But, BETTER HIM THAN LEO! Or anybody else I've heard mentioned so far. NAME SOMEBODY BETTER!
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PS: Since this is the most fought-over part since Scarlett O'Hara... I wonder how many of those ambitious young actors out there would be willing to have plastic surgery to get cast? Either to look more like the original characters or to look younger (Fraser, Ethan Hawke)?
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Brendan Fraser could pull it off--he's a great actor that hasn't got the acting credit he deserves. From Encino Man, to Blast From the Past, to Gods and Monsters to The Mummy. What young star has acted in a wider range of movies? No one.
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I saw MENACE two months ago and now have only a vague recollection of what it's about. I don't remember most details, but I do remember Liam Neeson. It was weird seeing a well-known actor in a STAR WARS role. I kept thinking, hey, there's Liam Neeson pretending to be a Jedi! It was like he transcended the space epic/opera genre or something (same goes for Samuel L Jackson and Yoda. It was weird seeing THEM there). Anyway, I'd be sitting there thinking, hey, Neeson's trying to use the Force. What's up with that? And then when he waved his hand at that weird flying Wazoo thing-or whatever-it totally dissed Neeson's Force; as if Neeson never had control of the Force because Neeson is an actor in a STAR WARS movie, not a real Jedi. And that Darth Maul guy boinked Neeson in the bellybutton, and I thought, Hey! Liam Neeson just got his bellybutton boinked by Darth Maul. What's up with that? The point is, Menace was pretty good even with well-known actor Liam Neeson, even if I now only vaguely recall what it's about. So if Brendan Fraser gets cast as Darth Vader or whatever, it will no doubt look like Darth Fraser. But Neeson didn't kill THE PHANTOM MENACE, and Fraser most likely won't kill the Prequel Sequel. That's what I think.
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I really really needed to laugh tonight, and these were the most hilarious talk backs I have ever read.After reading every single one, two thoughts:
1.) JARJAR25 and Krinkle have got it exactly right
2.) Even bad George Lucas is 1000 times better than what we get from the studios nowadays.
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..it is to bitch and moan about casting rumors now, months before the public will ever get confirmation. all so-called rumors now will someday be proven false so why watse your time? i guess its just fun to bitch. i used to bitch alot at this site. i was, for a while, the most hated person at this site (well, maybe behind LaneMyers), but then i just left 'cuz i got sick of it. well, guess what folks, i need it again. so, expect to see my annoyingly pretentious name all over this site from now on. by the way, what ever happened to LaneMyers?
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I think most people will go to TPM no matter what the casting is. Its the way things are, and they will not change. People will complain about casting until their blue in the face and they'll go to see it anyway because its Star Wars.
And to comment on remarks by Jar Jar 25 and others.... I think people gave TPM more of a chance than it deserved. The whole country held its breath for the release and then decided they didn't like it that much. TPM got its chance but it didn't win over a lot of people including myself. We gave it a chance.... a much bigger chance than most considering the Star Wars background and the hype.... which unfortunatly raised expectations which the movie did not meet. It simply wasn't that good. Well theres always the next movie. And if that isn't too good, we'll always have Paris. ;-) -- G`Quon (PS if it is Fraser I would be relieved. I have yet to see Titanic because of DiCaprio and I DO NOT make exceptions.) -
...he didn't know what the fuss over the hype was about and he did realized that TPM would not meet everybody's expectation. He said it was HIS movie the way HE wanted to make it. If everybody else don't like it, so be it. He's just trying to tell the story he WANTS, the way he WANTS it. So all of you bitter ass out there, GO FIND YOUR OWN FRANCHISE! If TPM is not for you, look else where. That's more out there than Star Wars. Maybe you'll actually find something that won't disappoint you. Jeez.
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The Rock has come back to Talkback!! The Rock says this Brendon Fraiser guy is ten pounds of monkey crap in a five pound bag. The Rock says he, The Great One, The Chosen One, is the most electrifying man in sports entertainment...PERIOD. The Rock says there's only one choice to play Vader, and that's The Rock. When The Rock's up there on that screen, flinging his lightsaber around with the millions... and millions of The Rock's fans chanting his name - RO-CKY! RO-CKY! RO-CKY! The Rock will take The Force, turn it sideways, and stick it staright up Darth Sidious' candy-ass! If you SMELL-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA... what The Rock... is cookin'.
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If they are considering Hottie Brendan F (although I don't think he is right for the part). Why can't hottie keanu be considered??
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My uncle's dentist, who went to college with George Lucas' son's roommate's brother's best friend, told me that Quentin Tarentino himself is going to be Anakin Skywalker.
"Did you see a sign on my garage that says, 'Dead Wookie Storage?' Obi-Wan? Well, did you?"
And also, my Very Reliable Source tells me that Keanu Reeves is going to play the young Han Solo.
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People in this world are impatient and must make their own assumptions of the truth. Now more than in movie. Leart to be patient. Mr. Lucas is watching, and waiting. Why do you expect this huge name actor? Who was Harrison Ford? I am a 6'3 blond hair Blue eyes actor. My name will not be revealed. I have trained in kendo and am a religious fan of this saga. I will be having my agent getting in touch with Ron Gurland about auditioning for this movie. Butbefore you believe anybody, go to the official site and notice that casting will not be started until late september at latest. So relax and realize that whatever Mr. Lucas picks to play the role of Anakin, will be the RIGHT choice, because his vision is what started this saga in 1977. This actor must be young...younger than a leonardo, or a matt damon. Lets not forget that he is 5 younger than Amidala...so if you have a 20 year old actor...you lose the innocence. You need someone yound that look older. I want to go for this part. Sure the chance is slim, but remember that it is who you are in Mr. Lucas's eyes that matter, not anybody else. So I leave you with this. Relax and remember, that the powers above ARE watching.. goodnight.
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I have never really replied on talk back before but hey might as well start someday. Firstly, Q'Gon I respect your opinion but to say that the country didn't like TPM all that much is kinda rediculious. Yes, personally I didn't feel TPM was the strongest picture of the Star Wars saga but I still feel it was light years ahead of Return of the Jedi(which I still love) and it's all in good company so I'll give it a chance. I even think that when the next two films are out my opinion of Phantom Menace will proabably move up(or down depending on the next two films quality). Regardless of what YOU think of the film it was/is extremely popular and(even though I hate bringing up box office reciepts) is the 3rd highest grossing film of all time(and counting). Not to mention the biggest summer movie of the past two decades. I think the general public is very enthuastic about the movie regardless of what fanboys/star wars fanatics/or twentysomethin cynics thought(whatever their conclusions good or bad came about) Do not equate your feelings to the general publics feelings because I have met a very small minority of people who thought the film was bad(most real negativity comes from the net). Above all though, don't say it was all hype..true hype got the big opening weekend but hype didn't get it to 400 million if it was truly bad it would have pulled another Lost World or Godzilla(which also had a hellva lot more marketing). I think alot of u guys that disliked the picture should get over the fact that supposidly everyone else disliked it as well. However, facts show the dissatified customers are in the minority. That is not to say I feel your opinion is unjustified or meaningless it's just well..the world does not revolve around your opinion or my own(however facts would say I am in the majority). I hope that some of u out there will fall in love with the series again. But if not, well sorry...mabey u can find solitude with Matrix 2&3 and Lord of the Ring movies(wouldn't get my hopes up on even those two though..i.e..hype seems to lead to hatred). But, nonetheless time will tell on these prequel pictures and deep down I feel history will look very very kindly on Phantom menace(atleast I hope). Now, what do I feel on Brenden Frasier..well I don't think it is that bad I mean he can act but I just don't really know it is kinda awkward(but not in a bad way). It's just well, he seems a bit to old and yet I think has the emotional ability and physical prowless to pull it off. It's seems to me to be kind of a mix blessing. Overall though it is Lucas's baby and he can do whatever he damn well pleases. Keep up the good work Harry
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read some where that a guy who knows a guy overheard from this over guy that some guys from skywalker ranch took Rick Schroeder away early from the wrap party of last season's final episode of nypd blue to have him talk about episode 2 prospects. He *does* have the same kindof ewok face as jake lloyd. I dunno. What y'all think of this?
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Admitedly, EP1 needed to have a lovable nice Anakin, but what we need for episode 2 is someone who really has the capability to BE Darth Vader. Brendan ain't it. Edward Norton should be Anakin. Anyone who has seen Primal Fear knows this guy can be anything he wants to be. He's the best young actor working today.
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white folks always trying to run the show.
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Virtually all of the rumored Annakins--especially Brendan Frasier--are so radically, completely, 100% WRONG for the role that I can't understand how someone would believe that these rumors are true. For starters, almost ALL the rumored actors are too damn OLD! Brendan Frasier is older than Ewan McGregor! Ridiculous! And the rest are younger 20-somethings but would be terrible. James VanderBeek--get real. Leo--has intensity, looks right, I'll admit--but just too famous--that's a distraction. There is only one rumored actor that would be worth a rat's ass--Brad Renfro. If you have not seen Apt Pupil, do so. First he's convincingly good, then disturbingly evil, then good again...plus, he's an unknown AND he is the only one who would actually look 19 years old (Jake Lloyd's 9 + the 10 years between Ep.1 and II).
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First of all, to everybody bitching about taking these rumors too seriously, I don't think people are losing sleep over whether Dicaprio or Frasier is going to play Anakin. It's just fun to share ideas about who we think will be good or bad in a certain role. Lighten up, people. Now, as far as Brendan Frasier is concerned; he's a good guy, but I just don't get that Anakin vibe from him. No...as I said before and will say again, there is only one man who can bring Anakin to life in EP 2, and that man is... Mark-Paul Gosselar! Mark my words...
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Darth Vader was just a torso and a head. His arms and legs are mechanical, so who knows how big he was before Obi-Wan stuck a lightsaber up his ass. Maybe he intentionally made himself bigger mechanically so people wouldn't call him a cripple. Luke weighed about a buck-o-five, so it isn't crazy to think that Anakin could have had a similar build. But if anyone should be seriously considered for the role it should be Carson Daly. Then maybe Obi-Wan tells him how much Kid Rock sucks and that would anger him enough to go to the Dark Side. (Carson is secretly in love with Kid Rock.)
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I don't think I could ever entertain this bit. Brendan Frasier is overrated in most of these dimwit movies he chooses. He's only still interesting to Hollywood because George of the Jungle made money, and he's only interesting to serious film types because he held his own with Ian McKellen. But I fail to see why Frasier would be less of an "Anakin grew into a thug" type choice than Matt Damon. I can't see Frasier as younger than Natalie either, though I could have been convinced. What does it matter now, the rumor's not true. Now we can just keep pretending our favorites will be cast!
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By the way Brendan Fraser could not fit the role of Darth anyways, too homo-looking if you ask me. The man for the job is that cat from Gattaca, hmmm Hawke yeah Ethan Hawke, cooler, scarier looking.
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Jul 31, 1999 8:11:09 AM CDT
Stone Cold Steve Austin IS BOBA FETT!! He signed the episode II
by baron karza
See above, its true, saw it on Corona...
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With digital enhancement - remove the bags from under his eyes, make him 20 again, change the face and the voice just a bit but keep it in the family.
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let that piece of Texas trailer trash be Boba Fett. The Rock will walk right up to him, point the people's finger right at his rudy-poo chest and say "Listen up, Jabroni, The Rock says we want them alive. no disintigrations, or The Rock will serve you up a Rockwich with a nice order of smackdown on the side!" The Rock IS the people's champion, The Rock IS the people's choice for Anakin. If you SMELLLLLLL-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA ...what The Rock ....is cookin'.
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He's got the right body for the role (after all, the older Anakin Skywalker at the end of thr wonderful ROTJ was a big guy), and he certainly looks tougher and more heroic than that no-talent crybaby wuss Leo, he's too old. Hey, George, cast younger, will ya?
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Finally, a rumour disproved! Now about that damn Leo thing....
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Yes, it's true. Although I have no acting talent or any experience, I have signed on to play the part of Anakin Skywalker. Hey, I'm half-decent with a lightsaber.
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Since Harry seems more intent on feeding us practical jokes these days instead of reputable rumours, I have a major 2c and a quarter to add. It was either earlier this month or last month but I saw a quote on a movie site (it was either Cinescape or some other)from an MSNBC interview with Rick McCallum. McCallum was asked about the Leo as Anakin casting rumours and here's what he said and I quote: "He's on the list but he's nowhere near the favorite." Believe me, this is a real interview and a real quote that I remember clearly. The only thing I can't remember is if it was linked on Cinescape or another sci fi/movie site. Seems kinda funny it wasn't posted on AICN. In either case, maybe everyone can now shut up about this Leo nonsense. And no, DiCaprio can't act. Ewan would make him look like a fool in the next two movies. And yes, the Brendan Fraser rumour was 100% nuts and I knew it as soon as I saw the story and so should you have. And yes, you have serious problems if Jar Jar alone ruined TPM and the next two movies for you already.
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Thinking about the new info Harry posted about looking into the indie film world for the next Anakin... Late teens, early 20s... blondish hair... big guy... decent actor...? Now, if they are able to cut down on his "doofus-talk" that he's usually known for, why don't they cast Brendan Sexton III? He's proven himself to be a respectable actor in films like "Welcome to the Dollhouse" and "Hurricane Streets". True, he doesn't have as imposing an image as the Vader we're all used to, but Vader is more robot than human. He does top Leo in one major aspect... he has the most pretentious-sounding name in all of filmdom.
Now my accounts $.02 lighter. As Johnny Storm is fond of saying... "FLAME ON!!!"
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I'd like to remind people that you don't need to like something because you feel you're obligated to. It saddens me to see people defending TPM just because its Star Wars. Its that same attitude and ones similar to it that have made books once again the only source to find valid entertainment (Babylon 5 the exception to the rule). Although some may have legitimate reasons for liking TPM and future Star Wars installments, the ones who do not should not like them simply because of the fact that they have good effects from ILM or that Lucas is trying to make more money off of toys.
This also goes to casting in Episode II. I also find quabbling about casting rumors quite riddiculous. See how the person cast is in the movie. Then complain. The thing that is really ruining movies isn't mean spirited times or great expectations.. its complacency and perpetuation of garbage caused by that complacency. If we continue liking a movie shearly for its special effects or its name... or if we continue disliking movies bewcause of casting decisions and rumors we will only tell hollywood to shovel more shit on the pile of movies that have been produced over the past few years.
Basically what I'm saying in all of this is that its time for the american audience to grow up and ask for more than just toys and special effects.. and in doing so we also have to get out of the hollywood rutt of rumors and stereotypes. Its time to have more disriminating tastes and more realistic views of the quality of movies and television or we will only get "thrill rides." And if that happens quality entertainment will truly be lost. -- G`Quon -
Believe me, I'm not slamming you but I just have to respond. The people here (including me) who are defending TPM aren't defending it "just because it's Star Wars." We really did enjoy the movie including its story which sets us up for Ep2. Yes, the special effects and light saber duel were incredible but so were the little hints about Anakin's future fall to the Dark Side ex: "come back some day to free the slaves," and the storyline about who the sith are and where Darth maul really came from. We can't wait to see these questions that TPM brought up answered. We're just kind of tired of all the whining about Jar Jar, "bad" camera angles, and other stuff which is used to justify total disgust with the movie. Did Jar Jar make me laugh in a few scenes? Yes. Did he totally annoy me in a few others? Yes. Was I still able to enjoy the rest of the movie? Definitely. I'm also glad to see that you are a Babylon 5 fan like myself, G'Quon =) Now go in peace, oh venerable Narn prophet, because both you and me as Lurkers know that Star Trek is more worn out than Star Wars will ever be, right?
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I think Jude Law would make a really interesting Anakin. I'd enjoy watching him face off with Ewan MacGregor, although some people are liable to get them mixed up!
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You people are so damn dumb it's funny
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I agree with you. There were parts of the movie I disliked as well as parts I did like (mostly Palpatine ahehehe). And I know that there are many who liked to movie for its content... but I also know there are some who will go to a movie and enjoy it just because its Star Wars... its part of a larger issue of complacency that worries me. Since Cecil B. Demil trotted out the gigantic roman sets and thousands of extras the goal of movies has changed. No longer are they meant to touch the soul and the heart, but merely to entertain the audience with big and explosive things. This has left some of us shurging our shoulders if you will... because there are very few truly good movies out there anymore. The funny thing is thing is its the audience thats partially responsible... the more and more these "wild rides" (wild rides=enjoyable by people with brain damage.. not enjoyed by _enjoyable_) are released the more and more people are asking for them. Therefore the content and quality of these movies dropped. I personally think that TPM walked the line between quality and thrill ride. And I am not insulting or trashing anyone who liked it for its content.. only those who liked it out of complacency or feel obligated. There is no reason to do that.. its not so bad with TPM but with other movies it only perpetuates crap. AS I said its time for the audience to grow up and like things because of all of their content, not because of toys and special effects. -- G`Quon (PS: Flint2, Babylon 5 is the greatest. DS9 wasn't played out too badly, but voyager.... well sit right back and you'll hear a tale..a tale of a fateful trip ahehe. Star Wars isn't that played out.)
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First, Sean Patrick Flanery is 34 years old, Brendan Fraser is about 30, so that rules out both of them. Why doesn't someoe try and figure out the films that are going to be at Sundance this year? It looks as if Lucas is going to end up going with a total unknown.....the question is can a total unknown hold their own with McGregor and Portman in a CGI dominated film? I wish Lucas would consider Joshua Jackson or Jonathan Jackson. Josh Jackson, in my opinion, is a great choice. James Van Der Beek makes him look like Olivier, and I bet he would have great chemistry with McGregor and Portman. But, alas I'm afraid Lucas is going to pick a total geek who isn't coordinated, is awkward and gangly, and can't act. All of us are going to be sitting in a theater watching Natalie Portman cringe as she has to kiss this guy. If you thought Jar Jar was bad, you know that there is a 75% chance that Lucas is going to fuck it all up again with his casting choice for Anakin.
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The next movie will indeed star Mark Wahlberg as Anakin who, in an interesting plot twist, will change his name to Darth Diggler. It will be called Episode 2: The Phantom Penis.
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Gosh, you people are weird. What exactly is your demographic out there? I'm a 26 year old Caucasian, so I imagine I'm 2-3 years older than most of you folk.
Anyway, I've got a new theory: all of those lucky folk who either
A) saw the original Star Wars Trilogy in the theatre or B) saw it on video or cable, have learned the word "fuck." You don't really know how to use it, and you generally just send it in the direction of anything it'll stick to or slide down. The two actors who have been named (probably erroneously) as possible Anakins are BOTH FINE actors: Fraser was (as at least SOME of you know) terrific in Bill Condon's great "Gods And Monsters", and DiCaprio has been fine more than enough times to more than justify the casting rumor. See, you gen x and y-ers are fatally in love with "the backlash". Nothing, apparently, has any inherent value. All you care about is a fad. There are people among you who seriously will not enjoy music unless the other kind of people who also enjoy it are THE RIGHT KIND of people. This is a concept that would have warmed Hitler's heart at the beer hall. If everything's worth is determined by it's level of "hype" (a vague term referring, seemingly, to consumer awareness) or by adversity to "trendiness", then nothing has any inherent value at all. This is sad, this is why this generation is where it is. This is why Kurt Cobain was never able to develop into a mature songwriter, this is why REM is already considered an "old" band. Do you think The Beatles' fans had given up on them by Abbey Road? Do you think, regardless of Limp Bizkit's possible future artistic growth, that ANY of these punks will still be listening in ten years? Fred Durst is gonna shaking his ass on sitcoms by then. (Don't you think it's strange that so few people care about a band's NEXT album, regardless of quality? And why is it that so many people always say that a band's first album is the best? It's not always true, you know. What the gen-xers refer to as "selling out" is usually just a matter of improved songwriting (Cobain, cobain, cobain)= wider acceptance. There is nothing insidious about this. This is not where we are being tested, x-ers. We ARE being tested, and we fail, when we make fun of a guy because he shops for clothes at Target, or when we spend four hundred dollars for a pair of flip flops with the name on an in-line skating company plastered on them. We're losing, folks, we're lame.) ANYWAY, remembering that this is a movie web site, I would remind all of you that "Titanic" is a terrific old style Hollywood epic, and that all you punks are reacting to is the SUCCESS of the film. Not the content. Before "Titanic", DiCaprio was widely considered the finest actor of his age group. The fact that young girls think he's pretty should not have any bearing on our opinion of him. And I really don't think it's enlightened to call somebody a "pussy" (remember a pussy's ACTUAL strength over the male species) just because one of his movies made a lot of money, or because he wasn't in "Pulp Fiction". You wouldn't like it if I called you a moron just becuase you pepper your posting with uncreative blasts of cliched profanity, would you? -
fripp&eno, you read my mind.
as i read over the blurb about an indieboi in the apx. 20 age group casting quest, brendan sexton III was the first actor to come to mind. i think he's attractive enough and captivating enough to pull off a romantic lead role. taking into consideration the jealous fanboy perspective, he's not overly known to the extent he has his face painted on wallets for the twelve year old girls yet, and maybe won't piss the fan boys all off like good ol'leo. and their major complaint regarding leo's build (aka the suddenly size DOES matter issue) is slightly less of an issue because BSIII is better built and could probably be bulked up more easily for the role. as for acting ability, we know he can play the psychologically twisted boy (Welcome to the Dollhouse, anyone?) role strongly with a subtle sensitivity, and could thus turn in a fricking amazing performance as the man in love who will go on to embrace hate.
until the next round of casting rumors, 3jane.
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Hi guys! Am I the only girl here? Then I'll tell you what girls (at least me and my friends) expect of the grown-up Anakin Skywalker. I can't say that I don't like Fraser I doubt that he'll be great Anakin.Personally I think that (don't laugh, OK?) Leo Di Caprio will be much better. He's younger, he's a good actor and besides you needn't explain why girls fall in love with him! But Brendan Fraser... If I were this Queen Amidala I would never even look at him and I would never-ever go to bed with that Mummy! Yack!
Anyway I hope it's only rumors and Lucas will find someone else. By the way I still think that the old trilogy was much better.
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I saw Titanic, and I didn't not like because it made a lot of money. I didn't like it because it was awful! The ghosts of those who perished on the ship should go a-haunting Jim Cameron's house, because it was a mockery of what those people went through. That ridiculous love story, and the Terminatoresque chase through the ship at the end - just plain stupid. And it just wouldn't be a Talkback unless somebody mentioned Hitler at least once.
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I have to give most of you guys credit! At least here you people don't seem to be as bad as some of those idiots on the Star Wars usernet! Jar Jar Binks and Anakin give TPM a very juvenile feel to the film, but other parts of it were just like the other Star Wars films! I have a feeling that the reason George made this film with more of an unbeat feeling was because the next two are not going to be ending with a celebration with people cheering and giving away fucking peace balls. The next two will be darker, but people will probably still complain about the next films, simply because nothing will ever please them. They will see that the next films are too dark or not dark enough. They will find another character to complain about. It was unfortunate that Jar Jar and Anakin had to endure so much hatred, but didn't Yoda say that hatred and anger lead to suffering. Only time will tell if the next two film will change all that, but I have a feeling that sadly it won't! I really wished that everyone liked it, along with the critics, but these are not the same times we live in. I hope the coming century will bring us a new hope. With all the killing in the world today I wish we did have Jedi and the like to help make this world a better place. Still, this is the main reason I love TPM , because it gives me hope and takes me to a world where good can win out over evil. If only for two hours I can be taken away from my own world, then it is enough for me that is film, though not perfect can give me pleasure that most of the garbarge this summer couldn't!! As for the casting! Didn't I hear someone from Lusasfilm say that they would not do any kind of casting till September as the earliest. Harry quit posting anything about casting at least till the beginning of September. Please!!!!
May the Force be with you all!!!!
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Uhh, correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that Kurt Cobain didn't develop into a mature songwriter because he blew his head off with a shotgun.
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Episode 2 will be revolved around the fact that Anakin sees one of the Dark Sides of the Power of the Force in a way that alters him physically. He ages drastically and seems to pass Obi-wan in age which causes the Queen to lose interest. Darth Sidious gets in contact with the balding, altered future Darth Vader(played by Tuccu) and convinces him to join him. Through this he is altered again appearance-wise and there is never a lack of food causing him to gain weight. In the next chapter we are introduced to the Darth Vader suit which is caped to hide his weight problem that hinders his breathing. In the early stages of episode 3 before the weight problem gets out of hand, we see an unmasked Oliver Platt play the role.
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Buzz Lightyear! Well, why not? The wildly successful Gungan-who-shall-be-nameless proved a computerized image can work as a main character next to a live human. And Buzz Lightyear proved he can be successful starring against other Computer people. He's perfect. He'd be cheap and easy to work with too. Now you may say, sure, he's a fine actor, but Buzz Lightyear is too old. But, a few clicks of the mouse takes care of that! You remove that Space Ranger suit, put him in some Jedi robes, and stick a light saber in his hand--VOILA! the perfect Anakin. He'll fit well in the space genre. Plus, he's a relative unknown, having been in only one movie, with a second to open in a few months. And who wouldn't want to see Natalie Portman and Buzz Lightyear entwined in the carnal Force? To infinity, and beyond! The choice is clear--the CGI, Buzz Lightyear, should be the next Anakin Skywalker.
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If we all wanted some pumped up thick headed, jerk to be the character that is one of the most enjoyable villains in movie history's early years. It's a tounge twister, but it gets it all out. So F.B. says to all of you, right now, if you actually think that Fraser should play Anakin Skywalker in E-2, speak now or forever hold your peace, and your balls at that too. Life moves pretty fast...you know the rest.
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That Tooth Fairy movie is still alive?! God, I remember hearing about that nearly a decade ago as Arnold's 'next film'. The original plot, (IIRC) was that Arnie played a Marine Corps. Drill Sargeant or something who finds out his dad is the tooth fairy and he must take his place. I can already picture the commercial: "There's a Fairy in the US Marine Corps." Montage of him as fairy and drilling Marines, alternating. "Don't ask, don't tell." Commercial ends. (This is really going suck if they _do_ use this as advertising...(esp. if I see no money from it. :)))
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Rick Shroder, Anthony Michael Hall, Brendan Fraser, Leo, Van der Beek? What about the ultimate teen hero - Corey Feldman. George Lucas rang me today and it's all sealed. Boba Fett is the other Frog Brother.
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Hey G'Quon =) Hope that got your attention. Don't worry about the guy that chewed you out. Well I appreciate what you had to say about the tendency for movies to be big "thrill rides" ever since the days of Cecil B. Demille's Bible pics, ect. But as far as Star Wars goes, thrill ride is *definitely* a good thing and comes with the territory. I don't think the Star Wars movies have contributed to the proliferation of "cheap thrill" movies in any way. I think TPM and the previous Star Wars pics showed how a thrill ride movie *should* be done. Basically IMHO, I think the bad thrill ride flicks we need to complain about are crap shows like "Wild Wild West" or "Deep Blue Sea." I guess you could say that TPM was like Season 1 of Babylon 5 because TPM is an introduction and setup to the main characters and storyline that we'll see in the next two flicks. Also, if Jar Jar does indeed become Anakin's friend, he could become an interesting and tragic character, because he can't be his friend when Anakin turns to the Dark Side. See, folks, this is how you diagree and comment. FRIENDLY.
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I am a massive Star Wars fan. i don't mean star wars trivia, i mean the actual story itself. when i first saw it i was really young and just thought it was really cool. now i like it even more. as such, i was a little distressed at seeing The Phantom Menace. all in all the film was quite good, but a couple of things really got to me. the first was midichloreans and the second was the virgin birth. what the hell was that all about. i have found the perfect solution though. in episode 2 or 3, it should be revealed that Palpatine is actually anakin's father and he had his mother artificially inseminated and then wiped her memory. that would make everything so much cooler. don't ya think?
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