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It's "Shelley Meets Chandler" In I, FRANKENSTEIN!

Beaks here...

What if Frankenstein's monster developed to the point where he was able to function as a hard-boiled private investigator? And what if his noir-ified universe included The Invisible Man, The Hunchback of Notre Dame and Dracula (as a crime kingpin, naturally)? This is a movie you'd pay to see, right? If this premise is all I had to go on with I, FRANKENSTEIN, which is to be written by UNDERWORLD co-creator Kevin Grevioux and directed by f/x maestro Patrick Tatopoulos, I'd already be intrigued. But when you tell me the project is being co-developed by Ryan Turek aka "Ryan Rotten" of well, then I get a little giddy, 'cuz I've known Ryan for close to seven years now, and feel pretty certain that there's not a horror aficionado in Hollywood who can match his love for (and understanding of) the genre. He's one of the best we've got. Turek will be working alongside Death Ray Films' Robert Sanchez and Chris Patton. Sanchez is one of the hardest working guys out there (you've seen his handiwork at, so I've every confidence this film is getting made. Grevioux will be adapting from his forthcoming comic book, which will be published by Darkstorm Comics. Best of luck, boys!

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  • April 16, 2009, 3:46 p.m. CST


    by rogueleader66

    Sounds like something different, hope it is good.

  • April 16, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST


    by rogueleader66

    My first first....I think I will throw a party...NOT...LOL

  • April 16, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    by The_Observer

  • April 16, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Sounds awesome...

    by Goonie

    ...This seems like a really, REALLY cool idea!

  • April 16, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    I get the feeling it will be more Chandler than Shelley.........

    by crackerfarmboy

    Call it a hunch...

  • April 16, 2009, 3:52 p.m. CST

    It's not April 1, is it?

    by Lou C.

    Ooh. Ooh. I have an idea: How about The Mummy as a DEA agent near the Mexican border?

  • April 16, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    When you hear a premise like that...

    by OGoncho want to kick your own face for not thinking of it first. <br><br>Sounds good.

  • April 16, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    RE: Mummy as DEA agent

    by terry1978

    And at the end of the movie he says, "well, looks like this case is wrapped up." Partner cop: Muuum-myyyy! *freeze frame ending* Seriously though, Kev Grevioux is a good ass writer...I am intrigued.

  • April 16, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    The world needs Dr. Acula now more than ever!

    by DerLanghaarige

  • April 16, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    is it just me or....

    by Ray Gamma Aint It Cool News basically all about promoting the movies their buddies are making?

  • April 16, 2009, 4:10 p.m. CST


    by Lemure_v2

    do this in black and white ala Sin City, won't be the same otherwise.

  • April 16, 2009, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Detective Frankenstein

    by Jeremy Wheeler

    Not to say it's biting off the Grindhouse fake trailer, but I can promise that the Detective Frankenstein folks are dyin' to get their gonzo movie made now that this news has hit.

  • April 16, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Could this BE more pathetic?

    by floggy bottom

    Chandler Bing in a vampire movie? Really?

  • April 16, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Who are the ad wizards...

    by wampa 1

    ...that came up with this one?

  • April 16, 2009, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Add Tarzan and Tonto and I'm sold

    by Fico


  • April 16, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Could be good...

    by whiskey_dick

    Could be good if they go for an actual noir look/feel. Given the way Hollywood has handled classic movie monsters in recent years though, I'm expecting "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen II" (Tagline-Now with EVEN MORE cartoonishly exaggerated, poorly rendered CGI!!) Lemure-Black and white would be good, but absolutely not 'ala Sin City'.

  • April 16, 2009, 4:26 p.m. CST

    It will suck

    by HorrorFan81

    I have that feeling.

  • April 16, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST

    "noir" - DEFINITION: Death at the box office

    by Professor_Monster

    This movie sounds stupid and belongs in comics (I think there is a comic like this already) And doing anything in noir is a sure way to get people not to go.

  • April 16, 2009, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Typical film that thinks it's "cool" because...

    by ricarleite2

    ... it has got known characters put into a different and humorous content.

  • April 16, 2009, 4:34 p.m. CST

    What happened last time we stuffed a flick full of...

    by Droid

    "classic literary or iconic characters"... <p>Well, firstly we got The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Then we got Van Helsing. <p>Let's just say I'm a little wary of these type of crossover flicks.

  • April 16, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    If Frankenstein is sacred of fire...

    by berksbear's he gonna light his smokes? He's gotta smoke in a film noire!

  • April 16, 2009, 4:42 p.m. CST

    oops - I mean 'scared'

    by berksbear

  • April 16, 2009, 4:49 p.m. CST


    by Darth_Tarantino

    The idea itself is not a bad one. But the very fact the movie would be called 'I, FRANKENSTEIN' when Frankenstein was the CREATOR, not the MONSTER, shows just how little thought went into the title alone. God only knows how little went into the script as a result.

  • April 16, 2009, 4:54 p.m. CST

    I, Obi-Wan

    by WeLiveStill...OrNot

    The premise.... Kenobi doesn't die on the Death Star, he just uses a Jedi trick ti escape to a drug world where he becomes an addict to deal with his guilt. There he teams up with Capt. Kirk, Flash Gordon, Comdr. Adama, and Robbie the Robot in an attempt to.....AAAAAAHHHHHHHH BEAKS!! WTF????? This REALLY sounds GOOD to you???? Good Christ....

  • April 16, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    "Hi, I'm Frankenstein! Could I HAVE any more bolts in my neck...

    by Nasty In The Pasty

  • April 16, 2009, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Have the creature from the black lagoon as the love interest...

    by Mike_D

    and im in.

  • April 16, 2009, 5:04 p.m. CST


    by Darth_Tarantino

    Coming soon...

  • April 16, 2009, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Frankensteins Monster

    by The Fear

    Should hunt down Ma Barker

  • April 16, 2009, 5:06 p.m. CST

    i thought david schwimmer was gonna play doctor frankenstein

    by hellcametofrogtown

    this sounds kinda cool. van helsing got it wrong.

  • April 16, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST


    by palooka_boy

    sounds interesting

  • April 16, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Sounds League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen-y

    by gnarwhal_evan

    What with him going through all those different literary classics and stuff. I'll watch it.

  • April 16, 2009, 5:12 p.m. CST


    by DKT

    Exactly. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Or Leage of Extraordinary Monster Detectives. Which does not mean I would not go see it.

  • April 16, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    So it's being adapted from something not even published yet?

    by thelivingdoll

    Oh great, that's ALWAYS a good sign...

  • April 16, 2009, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Dang - that headline made me think

    by snomusic

    that Matthew Perry got some work.

  • April 16, 2009, 5:25 p.m. CST

    It's hard to tell ...

    by webbigail

    Do all these people making 'Friends' jokes know the name Chandler in the article title doesn't refer to Chandler Bing? Maybe they do. Maybe they don't. Likely most of your readers never heard of Raymond Chandler.

  • April 16, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    I dont' get the title

    by Argentino

    What has Chandler to do with this thing? Are we talking about Friends' Chandler? Is he playing Frankenstain? And are they making the monster smart? Wouldn't that be one of those "mayor changes to the source material" you guys always cry about?

  • April 16, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST


    by webbigail

    Rumor has it Matthew Perry has a pilot in the works for Showtime.

  • April 16, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    That's Chandler Bing mind you.

    by Yeti

    Moster - "Could I BE anymore grotesque"?

  • April 16, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    ... and ...

    by webbigail

    Where are all the 'Cheers' jokes to accompany the 'Friends' jokes? Have you all forgotten Shelley Long?

  • April 16, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    It didn't occur to me people didn't understand "Chandler"

    by gnarwhal_evan

    Have any of you ever read a Philip Marlowe book?!

  • April 16, 2009, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Raymond Chandler

    by Argentino

    Ok, just googled it. I had the feeling I was saying something stupid. Still, wouldn't making Frankenstain smart be like "= flames on Optimus" or something? Specially for a writer who soposely loves and understands the genre like Beaks says.

  • April 16, 2009, 5:48 p.m. CST


    by snomusic

    That's cool - I personally think Matt shoulda gottn the spin off because he had the best comic timing and then I could continue to sigh over Courtney Cox Arquette. And no matter what any actor is doing I'm almost always glad when I see they are working.

  • April 16, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Philip Marlowe

    by snomusic

    I haven't read any - I DO read the Zachary Nixon Johnson books by John Zakour (currently reading Blue-Haired Bombshell) and I believe he's supposed to be like a futuristic parody of Mr. Marlow.

  • April 16, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST


    by OGoncho

    One of my favorite novels btw :)<br><br>I'm not troll enough to now admit when I'm kidding :(

  • April 16, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST


    by OGoncho

    I have so missed the talkback set-up.

  • April 16, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Argentino...ever read the original book by Shelly?...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...Frankenstein's monster was smart...he sort of had full human intellect but zero experience at first...but he gets up to speed pretty fast. Come to think of it, it's sort of the whole point of the book...the monster slowly awakens until he realizes his creator had no right to make him and then abandon him. He's sort of a genius by the end.

  • April 16, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST

    less Chandler

    by MrDexter

    more Monica

  • April 16, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    This sounds fucking stupid.


  • April 16, 2009, 6:05 p.m. CST


    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    Sounds like a GREAT idea! Remember how ammaaazzzziiiing Van Helsing was? Cuz this sounds NOTHING like it, right? <P> Hollywood, please take not: Dracula is fucking BORING!

  • April 16, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Nasty In The Pasty

    by Kobaal

    Holy shit, I just died laughing! <p> Seriously, I'm typing this from the afterlife.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST


    by Argentino

    Now that you mention it, I did, when I was a kid. It's funny how, when thinking of Frankenstain's monster, the James Whale/Boris Karloff version comes to mind instead of the original Mary Shelley book. You are right, he was learning and getting smarter as the story unfolded. I dont' remember him been a genius by the end, thou, but that's not the point. I guess Whale and Karloff were the ones who "put the flames on Optimus" after all.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST


    by Darth_Tarantino

    I would disagree with you there - Dracula is not boring if done correctly. The Hammer films were fantastic. They look like crap by modern standards, but nothing can take away from the fact they're the best Dracula films ever made and Christopher Lee is great to watch in every single one of them.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:15 p.m. CST

    There was a great TNT movie faithful to the novel.


    And I agree. Dracula was a boring ass character until Francis Ford got his chubby hands on him.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:17 p.m. CST

    Gary Oldman is a great actor...

    by Darth_Tarantino

    ...but Gary Oldman dressed up like Granma Preston from Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey didn't quite cut it for me as a decent portrayal of Dracula.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:18 p.m. CST

    It's weird how both Frankenstein versions live in...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...your head at the same time...the original monster has long black hair, milky white eyes, is lean, and his movements are described as supernaturally agile and fast.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:21 p.m. CST

    i love how mordibly grim the novel is.


    Both Frankenstein and the Monster curse themselves on every fucking page, calling themselves "Wretched" and "Doomed." Right from the start, it just feels so uncomfortable fucked up. You can feel nothing good will happen to any of these people. <p>Speaking of Frankenstein-- Guillermo Del Toro, keep your fat ass the fuck away.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:23 p.m. CST

    On a minor point...

    by Darth_Tarantino

    The creature is always depicted as being utterly brain dead and 'monster like', which has always fucked me off somewhat. In the book he is eloquent, intelligent and capable of true emotion. When he confronts Frankenstein, who can't stand to be near him, he delivers this beautiful speech where he tries to convince Frankenstein to build him an equal. One of the most moving parts of the book. You sure as shit don't get that in the films!

  • April 16, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST


    by Darth_Tarantino

    Would you agree though that the grimness of the book works for the story? I mean it's not like they're just self deprecating cunts constantly trying to outdo each other in just how well they can slag themselves off :P

  • April 16, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    sounds dumb.

    by alice 13

    is dumb.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Yeah. That book really is fucking amazing.


    The back and forth emotions for both the characters and the reader are fucking insane. You like the monster, feel for him, relate to him, and slowly learn to despise him.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:26 p.m. CST

    Mr. DickBlood...TNT adaptation of Frankenstein...

    by FlickaPoo say? It's good?

  • April 16, 2009, 6:30 p.m. CST

    Brannagh's version of Frankenstein

    by Darth_Tarantino

    In all honesty, I don't remember it even though I have watched it. Clearly it didn't leave much of an impression on me. Anyone care to chip in with an opinion (preferably someone who has read the book)?

  • April 16, 2009, 6:31 p.m. CST

    I don't know, I never quite despised him...

    by FlickaPoo least as an angry 20 year old. He feels that he got a shit deal, never asked to be created, and now is forced to live despised, feared, and deprived of after being rejected slowly grows to hate his creator...

  • April 16, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Films vs Book

    by Argentino

    Yeah, the book is realy grim and intelligent, but you can't deny how iconic the old films became. I guess they're also great in their own way, as a different work, not an adaptation. Of all the movies I watched I think the one by Kenneth Branagh was the closest to the book, but everybody hates it. I liked it quite a lot, although I've read the book like 15 years ago so I don't remember a lot of it and I didn't when I watched Branagh's version either. Does anybody remember one version that involved a genius time traveler that met Dr. Frankenstein and even Mary Shelley was a character and his love interest? That one was really fucked up! I haven't watch that movie in years!

  • April 16, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST


    by Darth_Tarantino

    That other version you mention sounds fucking mental!! Will try and track it down, sounds like a good laugh :D

  • April 16, 2009, 6:37 p.m. CST

    I thought Brannagh's version had a lot of good...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...things about it, but ultimately fell mostly flat. My favorite part was the completely invented addition of a bride for the monster...of course it all goes horribly wrong and she ends up setting herself on fire or something. I think I might have to watch that one again soon...

  • April 16, 2009, 6:39 p.m. CST

    I really liked Branagh's version. I thought DeNiro was good....

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD the role. And they handled the big moments (tearing out Elizabeth's heart) very well. Branagh was good as the doctor. I remember I really liked the original score. And the arctic book-ends were handled well. But of course...the 6 hour miniseries covers far more material. Stylistically Branagh's is better. And obviously its got the production values.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Hey, anyone read the new book PRIDE AND PRJUDICE...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...AND ZOMBIES? Any good?

  • April 16, 2009, 6:41 p.m. CST

    Thats right. They did do the bride thing.


    It was a drastic addition, but it worked well within the story. It didn't really feel out of place. But that really makes Frankenstein seem way fucked up. I love that moment in the book when he has the body parts, ready to put them together and the monster watches through the window. Frankenstein realizes how sinful this act is and starts tearing the body parts apart in front of him. Creepy ass moment. I think that was the moment the monster vows to destroy him.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST

    I read Frankenstein when I was a kid

    by caruso_stalker217

    But it was super condensed and had a lot of pictures in it. <p>Sounds like a good book, though.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:43 p.m. CST


    by Argentino There you go. I just realised why searching it that Roger Corman was the director.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:44 p.m. CST

    I liked the TNT version a lot.


    Though it is a much lighter tone. Branagh's captures the tone better. But the TNT film was very well done. This is the one with William Hurt as Frankenstein's professor in school. The guy that played the monster was good.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    The movie Argento referred to is FRANKENSTEIN UNBOUND

    by caruso_stalker217

    Saw a bit of it on T.V. once.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Damn, beat me to it

    by caruso_stalker217

  • April 16, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST

    TNT one is only 204 mins actually. UK version 268?


    Damn. An hour longer?

  • April 16, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Flames on Optimus = Bad-ASS.

    by Logan_1973

    The toy designs were outdated by a thousand years. You all know it.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Sounds very derivative

    by StarWarsRedux

    of "Doc Frankenstein", the Wachowski Bros. comic.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Also saw a version with Randy Quaid as the Monster

    by caruso_stalker217

    That was, uh, that was something.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:53 p.m. CST

    question to fans

    by Argentino

    Is is ok to call the monster Frankenstain? After all he's like Victor Frankenstain son, in a way. Plus, "The monster" is too generic and "Frankenstain's monster" is too long. What do you think?

  • April 16, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST

    Yeah. Honestly this concept is fucking lame.


    I'm sick of this stupid ass "Reinventing" shit. Its the fucking opposite of originality.<p>I can reinvent Gapetto as some hard boiled cop that hunts child molesters. Pleasure Island is a seedy underground child sex slave ring. Jiminy Crickit is Det. Gapetto's fucked up imaginary friend he sees when he trips out during hypnagogia, because he's a fucking insomniac ever since his 5 year old son was brutally murdered. <p>ooooooh its so fucking edgy, isn't it? fanboys everywhere will be salivating at the thought. Make the world real grim and raw, and its always raining and Det. Gapetto is always smoking. <P>Fuck you. Craft an original story for fuck's sake you unoriginal wankers.

  • April 16, 2009, 6:57 p.m. CST

    I think he should be referred to as "monster" or "creature"

    by caruso_stalker217

    Though I still prefer to be called "caruso" and not "stalker."

  • April 16, 2009, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Wouldn't that be a mixture of Shelley and Spillane???

    by TheGhostWhoLurks

    Since Spillane's "Mike Hammer" was first introduced in the novel "I, The Jury"? That said, I'd be interested if they played it relatively straight, but I think the urge to dive headlong into Mel Brooks parody (without the benefit of Brooks) will be too hard to resist in Hollywood.

  • April 16, 2009, 7 p.m. CST

    Spillane is the shit.


    My favorite quote of his: <p>"I have no fans. You know what I got? Customers. And customers are your friends."

  • April 16, 2009, 7 p.m. CST

    That Gapetto idea has merit, Danny

    by caruso_stalker217

    Some asshole is writing a script for it right now, I can feel it.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST

    I think its okay to call him Frankenstein,

    by Timahh

    but only when out of context. FOr instance if we just talking about monsters in general, if i said frankenstein, you know who i mean, but if we are talking about the book or a movie, he is the monster.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:02 p.m. CST

    I just pulled that idea, dripping wet, from my dickblood....


    ...but it doesn't sound bad. FUCK!!! DELETE THAT POST HARRY. FUCKING DELETE IT OR I SUE.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:03 p.m. CST

    But really...these motherfuckers thinking they're original....


    ...because they mix up characters or change the setting, or make it modern or edgy, bla bla bla. Its fucking boring. And people will always trash the fuck out of these films no matter how decent they think the concept sounds.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:04 p.m. CST


    by Argentino

    I'm ashamed to admit I would totally watch your take on Pinocchio. Well not really, but it sounds better that this new Frankenstain.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:05 p.m. CST

    And I'm supposed to get excited for an Underworld writer....


    ....working on this? Uhhhhhh...did those movies have scripts? I thought they just had detailed storyboards on how best to back-light Kate Beckinsale's ass.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:09 p.m. CST

    Hey, that Geppetto idea sort of actually holds together.

    by FlickaPoo

    ...and the constant smoking thing is a self destructive psychological tell because of course fire is the only thing that can kill his created replacement son Pinocchio.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:10 p.m. CST

    but Danny

    by Argentino

    It's been co-develop by a horror site web master and it's based on an unpublished comic book! What else do you want?!

  • April 16, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Not all movies made from material not yet published are shit

    by caruso_stalker217

    Just look at CHRISTINE. That movie kicks the book's ass.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST

    You know what would be a creepy visual in Gepetto?


    An old abandoned amusement park. Sorta like Coney Island, right on the coast, all rusted and worn. Final shootout should go down there.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Mr. DickBlood's GEPPETTO needs...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...Tom Waits involved somehow. Ever hear The Eyeball Kid?

  • April 16, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Yeah...that unpublished comics not trying to suck Alan Moore's c

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD not at all. These douche bags would pay that old warlock to piss in their mouths for inspiration.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST

    ...or What's He Building In There?

    by FlickaPoo

  • April 16, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Sly would have to play Geppetto

    by caruso_stalker217

  • April 16, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST

    Wow! That is tremendously stupid

    by careyleefisher

    Is this for real? This has got to be one of the stupidest ideas EVER!

  • April 16, 2009, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Tom Waits for the original score, and as Jiminy.....


    ....the imaginary friend. And make him a sorta Fight Clubish entity. Gepetto doesn't know he's not real. And the entire time the clock is ticking on Gepetto about to drop dead any minute. He literally has not slept in like a month and because of it, the whole world seems a little off. Buildings are slanted. Weird shit like that.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:18 p.m. CST

    suck Alan Moore's COCK that should have said.


  • April 16, 2009, 7:19 p.m. CST

    Flick. No. But I'll check 'em out.


  • April 16, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST

    I'm not normally a hater but...

    by ChickenDelicious

    The Underworld creator? Patrick "Underworld 2" Tatopolous? That's cause for celebration? And we all remember Van Helsing, right? Riiiiiight...

  • April 16, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    At the risk of repeating myself...Carlo Collodi's original...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...PINOCCHIO book is pretty creepy too. I don't remember it very well...mostly that The Fox and The Cat hang Pinocchio. Hang him for real...If I remember correctly he dies and the fairy brings him back. The Gypsy Mangiafuoco character is really scary too...

  • April 16, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Fuck this I, FRANKENSTEIN bullshit.


    There are so many more interesting things to discuss. Like Pinocchio.<p>The only way I, Frankenstein will work is if its directed by FRANK FUCKING MILLER. No way in hell is this gonna be good. So just make it so shitty I might just enjoy it with a bottle of scotch.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:35 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah....and WWW.IESB.NET sucks my dick.


    The only thing worse is Hitfix. I shall stay faaaaaaar far away from this thing unless Frank Miller directs and Chevy Chase returns as the Invisible Man.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Maybe when GEPPETTO finally catches the...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...villain the wooden Pinocchio becomes his dead son...but the ending is ambiguous, because GEPPETTO's an unreliable narrator and his perception of reality has been off all now he's hanging out with Tom Waits and his son and we don't know if any of it is real...

  • April 16, 2009, 7:38 p.m. CST

    ...but maybe that's too easy.

    by FlickaPoo

  • April 16, 2009, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Yeah. Thats good.


    I think he should be slowly bleeding to death from a knife wound earlier in the film. I like the ambiguous end where he falls and hits the floor. But then the kid helps him up. Last shot. The sun is rising. The old dilapidated amusement park shimmers in the golden glow. Cut to a wide of Gepetto, holding his son's hand with Tom on the other side playing the guitar as they walk off into the sunrise. Very Wizard of Oz looking....

  • April 16, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST

    DICKBLOOD, et all...

    by WeLiveStill...OrNot

    "Frankenstein" was truly written to spit in God's face. The themes of the writers/poets of the time reflect that. There has never been a film adaptation that I've liked, in that regard. DeNiro's monster verson was WAY in love with it self....I didn't dig it, but that's just a matter of opinion. This "new"'s just stupid as a story. Gepetto???? Nice in the visuals you talk about. But if you REALLY want to make it edgy.... make Gepetto a child molester w/ J. Cricket as the voice that convinces him that his victims WANT to be "loved" by him... "these boys hearts are just made of them how to be REAL....!" You want creepy and something that's on the edge, or you want more of this Hollywood spoon-fed crap???

  • April 16, 2009, 7:42 p.m. CST

    WeLiveStill.....nawwww. Gepetto is no molester.


    I don't think thats edgy. Its actually easier to take it to the extreme.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:43 p.m. CST

    WeLiveStill...OrNot -- you were created to spit in the face of G


    Live up to that. EARN IT.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Fuck.....IN THE FACE OF GOD


  • April 16, 2009, 7:43 p.m. CST


    by The Dum Guy

    Wasn't that the name Frankenstein gave to the monster? I read the book years ago, but I thought that he gave him the name Adam for the reason that he was the first man-made man.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    He doesn't all him Adam. Shelley speaks of the story....


    ....of Adam a lot. In the beginning they mention it constantly. Maybe thats why you remember it.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Potential to a go either way

    by crazybubba

    could be really good,hope so.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:48 p.m. CST

    The most faithful version of Frankenstein

    by Dingbatty

    but dramatized shorts shown during "Great Books: Frankestein" which was shown on TLC back when they actually had thoughtful and educational programming, before they became obsessed with home makeover and over-breeder shows. I found a pic of it on Amazon here:<p></p>You can probably find it in a rental place that still carries VHS, or on bittorrent. The clips show the monster looking and talking like he is described in the book.

  • April 16, 2009, 7:49 p.m. CST

    were the dramatized shorts, meant to

    by Dingbatty


  • April 16, 2009, 7:52 p.m. CST


    by WeLiveStill...OrNot

    I don't want to harp on this theme... but have you ever seen "The Woodsman"? The film forces you to take a simpathetic look at a child molester. This was more along my lines of thinking. To take an inside look at something most of us find disgusting is one of the things film can bring us. But then again, I can't wait for "Spider-Man 4"......

  • April 16, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST

    I'm pretty sure it won't happen, but...

    by The Dum Guy

    <br><br>Didn't Del Toro say that he had ideas for Hellboy sequels that would incorporate Universal's monsters into the stories?<br><br>

  • April 16, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Interesting WELIVE. No I haven't see it. But I know of it.


    That DVD cover scares the fuck out of me.

  • April 16, 2009, 8 p.m. CST

    Sounds like a comedy

    by Larry Sellers

    which is what it should be. Det. F. Monster and his sidekick Wolf Manning. And Robert DeNiro's penis.

  • April 16, 2009, 8:09 p.m. CST

    I have a kid...can't watch THE WOODSMAN.

    by FlickaPoo

  • April 16, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD sounds fucking stupid!

    by Leafar the Lost

    This is probably one of the best ideas I have heard in a long time. If its going to be made by the same people who did UNDERWORLD, then there is the potential for for a great movie. I think anyone can see that, except for idiot assholes like Danny-Loves-Dick-Blood.

  • April 16, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST

    ...don't like GEPPETTO as a molester though...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...if you want to get dark how about Geppetto's dead wife is the Blue Fairy of course. And when Geppetto catches the bad guy he starts to get revenge...rough him up a a bit...but his sweet dead wife/Blue Fairy is whispering in his ear...urging him on to take revenge on the killer...really torture him and fuck him up. And the more Geppetto maims the molester the more the wooden Pinocchio becomes his dead son (sort of like clapping to bring Tinker Bell back to life, but you know, exactly opposite and with severed fingers). So Geppetto has to choose between bringing his dead son back to life (maybe just in his head) and losing his soul. Wow, that was some psychobabble...

  • April 16, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    In conclusion, I'm rooting for I, FRANKENSTEIN...

    by FlickaPoo

    ...these things usually fail miserably...but I'm always hoping they succeed.

  • April 16, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST


    by frank cotton

    of the 'classic' monsters, already - jeez, when will they give this shit a rest?

  • April 16, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    I, Nameless Monster

    by DarthBakpao

    Frankenstein's monster never had a name isn't it?

  • April 16, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    Give me Karloff and Clive anyday

    by RickyRetardo

    Branagh screams too much, as usual, and DeNiro had too many "sharp features".

  • April 16, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST

    I really really hope Leafar was joking......

    by TheWaqman

    if not, then he really badly embarrassed himself by sticking up for Underworld whilst calling somebody else the idiot.

  • April 16, 2009, 8:59 p.m. CST

    hell yeahhh, now this is cool news

    by walrusholder

  • April 16, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    No, The Blue Fairy...

    by Continentalop a prostitute that our cop is friends with and has an unrequited love for. <p> Of course maybe Geppetto shouldn't be the hero, but instead it is his son, Pinnochio. And of course, Pinochio finds out that Gep is not his real father but that he was abducted as a child (he is kind of like a changeling). Pinochio finds out that Geppetto's isn't that great, kind man he thought he was, but instead a criminal who murdered the "Blue Fairy". By solving the Blue Fairy's murder Pinocchio has became a "real person." <p> Still trying to tie in the whale. But Pinocchio should be high as a kite on Crystal Meth, to give him the energy to solve this caper.

  • April 16, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    I am going to say it DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by Continentalop

    You're idea sounds very Professional. And I am not joking, Christian Bale plays the Detective (I am still pushing for him being based on Pinocchio).

  • April 16, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    ALL IDEAS have been DONE? Let's COMBINE shit.

    by noncents

    Wow, unless this is the most interesting take on the subject, I believe this is going be.....Yeah.

  • April 16, 2009, 9:41 p.m. CST

    It doesn't matter what the topic is

    by lokipan

    child molestation comes up in every conversation.

  • April 16, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    "He's one of the best we've got"

    by Raymond Shaw

    And this is based on what? As far as I can tell he's done nothing. The worlds full of nice guys who are big fans some kind of genre, but that doesn't mean they can create a halfway decent film.

  • April 16, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    look at this picture of Erica Hibbard

    by Mr_X

    i can't tell if it's her front or her back

  • April 16, 2009, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Coppola's Dracula sucked

    by criticalbliss

    And so did Branagh's Frankenstein. <p> Both novels have not been done justice. It's unlikely Hollywood ever will "get" them right; especially Frankenstein, which is a VERY deep and fucked up novel.

  • April 16, 2009, 10:07 p.m. CST

    I've noticed...

    by Bjornegar

    A week ago, everyone wanted DANNY_GLOVER'S_DICKBLOOD splattered all over the walls.<P> Now, they all seem to want to taste him.<P> Good on ya, DGDB.

  • April 16, 2009, 10:25 p.m. CST

    My favorite part of Modern Prometheus

    by bottombrick

    Is when he is living under those fools' house in the country side, learning and reflecting on his lot, and secretly chopping wood and helping them get by like a guardian angel. And when he feels like he knows them and could be accepted by them, and he first reveals himself to the blind grandfather and everything is going great until one of the younguns comes home and gets an eyeful of his horrendous visage and they start to beat on him and are completely repulsed by him. Its also the best part cause its all monster and none of that whiny cunt Frankenstein.

  • April 16, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST


    by wendybird

    Sorry to go OT, but the latest and final Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince trailer has been released in HD and no one has posted it yet! It looks absolutely phenomenal!

  • April 16, 2009, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Coppola's DRACULA

    by caruso_stalker217


  • April 16, 2009, 10:40 p.m. CST

    No matter how bad a movie, script, or idead might sound...

    by gruemanlives

    ...there is always DATE MOVIE.

  • April 16, 2009, 10:40 p.m. CST


    by gruemanlives

  • April 16, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    DATE MOVIE managed to make me chuckle in a few parts

    by caruso_stalker217

    Like the guy's leg breaking forward at the knee.

  • April 17, 2009, 12:10 a.m. CST

    uh... ignoring the idiocy of Frankenstein's creature

    by vaudeville villain

    being a goddamn detective of all things, who in their right mind would hire his cobbled together, undead ass?

  • April 17, 2009, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Who would hire Frankenstein...

    by criticalbliss

    A german chick. <p> A coked up stripper with daddy issues and a tendency toward necrophilia. <p> A blind guy who thinks he's hiring a smart Jew.

  • April 17, 2009, 12:58 a.m. CST

    I Only Read This Site. Who The Fuck Are Those Guys

    by Frodo T. Baggins

    This is my news site. That and SuperHeroHype because SOME TIMES...some times they are quicker.

  • April 17, 2009, 1:13 a.m. CST

    Sounds like some kids CG flick

    by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise

    Some crap like Monsters vs Aliens. I don't see this working, unless it's a comedy, which would invalidate the noir angle they wanna go with.

  • April 17, 2009, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Harry Snotter--huh?

    by noncents

    I don't care. All those movies have FAILED to interest me.

  • April 17, 2009, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Yeah... I don't think I like this idea

    by m_reporter

    And besides, if this thing gets made it takes us a step beck from seeing Guillermo Del Torro doing his Frankenstein movie.

  • April 17, 2009, 1:30 a.m. CST

    Sounds more like...

    by boingo2000

    Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, but with Universal Monsters instead of carton characters. And while I liked Roger Rabbit, that was freaking lightning in a bottle.

  • April 17, 2009, 1:38 a.m. CST

    I agree with Dickblood

    by Gwai Lo

    How does this bullshit continue to get made? Fuck. You know what would be nice? If they were mixing and matching inferior renditions of pre-existing characters that WEREN'T almost a century old. You know what would be even better? If they were actually creating new iconic characters for fuckos like these Underworld hacks to rip off in the future! I can't imagine the pitch meetings these idiots have. "It's about a Mummy vs. a Frankenstein!"

  • April 17, 2009, 1:45 a.m. CST

    IESB Robert Sanchez is a fucking douche

    by robzass

    anybody read his twitter page? God, what a fucking assclown. I stopped visiting IESB after that.

  • April 17, 2009, 2:25 a.m. CST

    What's with the reference to Friends ?

    by Ashen Shugar

    Can't see anything related to Chandler Bing... And yes HP's new trailer is fan-fucking-tastic, probably the best I have ever seen for a HP trailer. And yes the above is a silly joke.

  • April 17, 2009, 2:26 a.m. CST

    Ok Sorry

    by Ashen Shugar

    Can not believe someone already made that fat ass joke bout' Chandler Bing...

  • April 17, 2009, 2:34 a.m. CST


    by deanbarry

  • April 17, 2009, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Seth Whatshisface IS Frankenstein!

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    kind of a droll, bland, boring frankenstein

  • April 17, 2009, 2:43 a.m. CST

    this will go only one way...

    by smatt584

    ...either genre-bending noir-ish genius like "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", or pure shit like "Van Helsing". I can already hear the cliches and puns that will be flying our way. Frankenstein's monster will be an ex cop-turned private eye who was killed in the line of duty and his brain was stolen by an evil genius who made him a part of his famous experiment. His name will of course be Frank, or as they called him while he was on the force "Frankie the monster" (insert dry joke about irony). The hunchback of Notre Dame will be the subject of horrible puns such as "i've got a hunch", or "those crazy Dames". Mob-boss dracula will be fixated on pulling a heist on the local blood-bank with Renfield as his faithful thug/lackey, but who will the other noir archetypes be? Such as who will be the mysterious damsel with a smoking ass and a secret? Who will be the gruff police captain who is a thorn in the side of our hero, and who just might be on the take? And who will be the bad money? In the best noir there's always got to be the wealthy evil-doer who gets away with it all in the end...that's what i always remember about authors like Raymond Chandler and Dashiell Hammett, they always created an overwhelming sense of bleakness layered overtop the glitz of the settings. Everything feels like it's rotting from the inside, like even then, the past was a better time. I understand that this would have to be kind of tongue-in-cheek to work, like Roger Rabbit was, but movies like "brick" which successfully transfer the common themes and archetyes of traditional noir into untraditional settings and times, give me hope that there are at least some people out there that can still pull it off. (although honestly, it'll probably be shit)

  • April 17, 2009, 2:51 a.m. CST

    Dum de dum...

    by The_Skook

    Make SOMETHING original Hollywood! The cinema is it's own medium, write for that medium rather than recycling other peoples ideas and wacking off over your own reflection.

  • April 17, 2009, 2:58 a.m. CST

    I'd sooner see Guillermo's Frankenstein

    by HarryBlackPotter

    Hope it's his first movie after the Hobbit. Actually, kinda wish it was his first movie before the Hobbit.

  • April 17, 2009, 3:36 a.m. CST

    Chandler = Friends? How the nerds have fallen.

    by Harold The Great

    You identify Chandler with Matthew Perry before the author. Maybe if they made Saturday morning cartoons from his books you fucking nerds would connect the dots.

  • April 17, 2009, 3:36 a.m. CST

    Or maybe you guys are joking

    by Harold The Great

    In which case, I look like a goddamn idiot.

  • April 17, 2009, 3:43 a.m. CST

    A New Day Has Dawned

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    We can have the braind damaged frankenstein they you *know* would have been<<p> Now he'll sit in a mud puddle, cut farts, and bite at the bubbles<p> Oscars fer sure

  • April 17, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST

    durn board dun et mah post (most of it)

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Brain damaged frankie (blah blah blah)<p> Now he'll be sitting in a puddle of his own waste, cutting farts, and biting at the bubbles

  • April 17, 2009, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Oscars fer sure

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Seth Whatshisfuck and That chck that was in charles angels, no not that one, no not the brunette, the other chick, no not the chin, yeah that one.

  • April 17, 2009, 4:28 a.m. CST

    prirate bay founders jailed?

    by Mr_X


  • April 17, 2009, 4:42 a.m. CST

    Chandler as in friends Chandler?

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Could it be any more lame?<p> I'm trying not to laugh but it's like trying to hold in an atomic bong hit

  • April 17, 2009, 5:04 a.m. CST

    Stem Punk Frankie

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Like in Van Hessling, you know with the the skull thet hinges off to relieve preassure.<p> And have lots of green, cos green is the color of evil

  • April 17, 2009, 5:05 a.m. CST

    Bad bad joke

    by Ashen Shugar

    Look the one who started is Beaks himself, "When Shelley meets Chandler"...

  • April 17, 2009, 5:06 a.m. CST


    by Melvin_Pelvis

    pressure valve skull frankie, blahblahblah

  • April 17, 2009, 5:08 a.m. CST

    Can't wait until Mori weighs in

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    with a come to my site review

  • April 17, 2009, 5:52 a.m. CST

    Depressed this is the only story in past 24 hrs...

    by DoctorZoidberg

  • April 17, 2009, 6:32 a.m. CST


    by Darth_Tarantino

    I'm on board for Gepetto, mate. But not him as a paedo - him as a dying detective searching for a paedo while Tom Waits sings to him. Sounds utterly barking and I like it :D

  • April 17, 2009, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Ian McKellan for GEPETTO

    by Darth_Tarantino

    What do we reckon Danny? Looking as he did in Apt Pupil?

  • April 17, 2009, 7:18 a.m. CST

    Monster Squad did the crossover pretty good

    by holidill

    Creature stole my twinkee

  • April 17, 2009, 7:33 a.m. CST

    No, Frankenstein say it not suicide.

    by Kid Z

    Victim lefthanded. Gun in right hand. Frankenstein say this big set up. But who culprit? Must in-ves-ti-gate more. Go to bars. Rough up stool pidgeons. Maybe bet more in-for-ma-shun. Frankenstein do good detecting.

  • April 17, 2009, 7:35 a.m. CST


    by Kid Z

    ...RAYMOND Chandler, dude. Stop watching TBS and go read a few books, dude. Sheesh.

  • April 17, 2009, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Dracula and Wolf Man start a punk band

    by Kid Z

    Drac is the fashion-conscious, snarky, ne'er-do-well while Wolfie is the heroin-addicted loose cannon. Igor and Renfield are the drummer and bass player who're always whining that their contributions to the band are over-looked and that Drac and Wolfie "don't care about the music" anymore.

  • April 17, 2009, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Give it a floor run, see if it plays.

    by Cletus Van Damme

    More fun than a cat toy!

  • April 17, 2009, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Puddin' on da Ree-ee-eetz!!!

    by EriamJH

    Just saying after "Van Helsing" promises, execution, and "love for the genre/source material"... I could care less.

  • April 17, 2009, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Argentino-- Frankenstein's monster was, in fact, intelligent and

    by Bunger!

    ... read the book and know what you are talking about dude. The dumbed-down movie monster is one of many travesties perpetrated on the original literary masterpiece. The Monster was, in fact, misunderstood; people THOUGHT he was a scary out of control killer, when in fact he was a confused, sensitive and shy creature who was driven to destruction when attacked and harrassed. Know your great works dude.

  • April 17, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST


    by Argentino

    I did read the book and know what you're talking about. I was just thinking about the classic universal movie version. If you read all my previous posts you'll see I corrected myself after FlickaPoo reminded me about the book.

  • April 17, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    We're overpopulated as it is!! <P> Bale be praised.

  • April 17, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST

    News on the Hobbit from Empire

    by m_reporter /news/story.asp?NID=24610 <p> Good news if you ask me, I loved reading the Hobbit when I was a kid, and I seriously can't see it translated well in to only one movie.

  • April 17, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST


    by shran

    You make me tremble with disgust.

  • April 17, 2009, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Yeah, TLC is The Fuck Up channel now.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Tonight at 8PM..."I Have Six Cocks" Sunday at 7PM...."My Wife Has Three Vaginas and Four Testicles"

  • April 17, 2009, 3:12 p.m. CST

    by The_Observer

  • April 17, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    I agree with BringingSexyBack

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    This planet doesn't need any more people shuffling around on it. And think of the carbon footprint from all those zombies driving around in their zombie cars.<p>Leave the dead in the ground!

  • April 17, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Vegan Zombies:

    by TedKordLives


  • April 17, 2009, 8:31 p.m. CST

    please get frank miller to write the voice over stuff.

    by S_Rorschach

    i wanna hear the creature say "dime-store dame with legs to potter's field".

  • April 17, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST

    This sounds COOL! However...

    by BetaRayRalph

    However, what sounds bad are stupid fanboy wannabes who aren't working on anything creative themselves hyper-criticizing other peoples work. It's pathetic, really. We can say this idea is derivative and a "rip-off", but what do you call Marvel's Frankenstein and what they did with the classic monsters in "Howling Commandos"? And what about "Doc Frankenstein"? Or "Frankenstein Mobster"? Or DC's "Seven Soldiers: Franksenstein". Who actually fights aliens on Mars?? All of the guys who created these cool concepts are pulling from the same source: MARY SHELLY'S FRANENSTEIN. So either they are ALL rip-offs or NONE of them are. You guys make me ashamed to be a geek. SHEESH!!

  • April 17, 2009, 11:51 p.m. CST

    And don't forget...

    by BetaRayRalph

    ...Dean Koontz has a modern Frankenstein tale as well. It's a NYT best seller and has a comic book as well. So who cares what we say about what's cool? Very few of us know what we're talking about or else we'd be doing the same thing. Personally, I,Frankenstein sounds brilliant and falls in line with all these other great ideas and alternate takes on Frankenstein.

  • April 18, 2009, 1:36 a.m. CST

    Peter Pan: Child Abductor

    by Pouchstalker

    Peter kidnaps children and keeps them on an island called Never Never. Tinker Bell is the coked up stripper who is in love with Peter (you may insert joke here)and has been known to be extremely jealous of other women possibly killing them? Detectives Hook and Smee are on the trail. Years ago Hook lost his hand in an explosion. Peter sent him a crocodile clock that was set to blow up. Now Peter taunts him with messages with th words Tick Tock on it. This isnt too hard to do. Next will be Capt. Ahab: Dog Catcher. Hint: he only sees the whale when he goes off his meds..

  • April 18, 2009, 7:39 a.m. CST

    "Know your great works"

    by WT

    Oddly enough, Young Frankenstien seemed to get the closest to what Shelley was after (incidentally, she was 19 when she wrote the book. Oh, and if we're talking crossovers, she wrote the book when challenged by her husband PB and Lord Byron in a "horror story" contest...fact!)

  • April 18, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    I'll stick with the Seven Soldiers' Frankenstein

    by Arkhangelsk

    where he is a member of S.H.A.D.E, a government agency. Grant Morrison's version wasn't all style and no substance.

  • April 18, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Koontz Anyone

    by SteeleFrog

    Wasn't the DarkHorse comic based on Dean Koontz books that had the monster as a Doc Savage/Shadow meditative mindtricking detective type ...? Sounds WAY dirivitive to me . How can General Grivous even begin to call this idea "Original" ?!

  • April 18, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    I guess...

    by BetaRayRalph

    ...the same way Doc Frankenstein, Seven Soldiers Frankenstein, and Frankenstein Mobster stay original. They all pull from the same source twist and hope they beat others to the punch. But I can tell you that Dean Koontz Frankenstein is still different.

  • April 19, 2009, 1:52 p.m. CST


    by Gwai Lo

    If you are trying to make a case for a Dean Koontz novel being anything other than derivative.. nevermind that other crap you mentioned... you are swimming against the current of taste. But then again I'm sure you're somewhat aware of that if you consider the idea of Frankenstein's monster fighting aliens on Mars to be a "cool concept". With rare exceptions (Alan Moore), throwing a bunch of pre-existing literary creations together in a Battle Royale format is the height of hackdom. I should know, I just wrote a script that does this, and it's the only thing I've written so far that a major studio has shown interest in. Granted, what I did was more of an adaptation of one existing property with lots of characters to choose from, not several properties jammed together. And the characters I'm using are not as played out as Dracula and Frankenstein(s Monster). And despite what I've been told in meetings with the suits I'm not sure this one project will ever get made. But the instant this industry gives me an inch of wiggle room I'm going to get some of my original work out there. These Underworld guys probably have the clout at this point to pitch a movie without using the word "versus", but why think of your own ideas when the well of monsters we've seen hundreds of times before hasn't run dry?

  • April 19, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Beware Beta

    by WT

    "The revolutionary rises to become the next despot" Not to have a go, but I honestly believe that quality can rise to the top. What I would suggest is if you do sell your idea is put some (if not all) the money into making one of these personal projects you want to do. Their films may not always be great, but I'm inspired by the spirit of Rodriguez and Smith- do what you can to do it yourself. Saying that though, I'm also lucky to be backed up by a very talented group of people I met on the set of a gangster film...

  • April 19, 2009, 2:11 p.m. CST

    Sorry that was for Gwai Lo

    by WT

    P.S Best of luck, hope something comes off for you :D

  • April 19, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST


    by Gwai Lo

    I'm still in the very early stages of my career and am very grateful to have a chance to get any writing read by a studio at this point. I am proud of the project I referred to and it has very little in common with I, Frankenstein. I feel like my script will turn out if it ever gets made, even though we are talking a pretty low budget. But I also feel like I have more of an understanding of how the process goes for this type of thing. I have gone from treatment stage to third draft of a script with people looking over my shoulders, and if a studio exec or producer or the director I'm working with wants changes made to characters that they feel they have a grasp of, it generally gets done. I've gotten a lot of "you can't do that" from the people who actually own the characters. I try and find creative ways to accommodate these requests and often times they are legitimate critiques but inevitably these types of projects turn into films by committee. Which can be healthy, I feel it has been for me, but when I hear that the Underworld people are making some shit about a Private Dick Frankenstein and a Crime Boss Dracula I gag just a little bit. Why don't we make a movie where Michael Meyers is an Illinois cab driver who picks up a mysterious acupuncturist fare... Pinhead! And we need to throw a genre in there so let's make it a political thriller! Also starring Leatherface as a Texas senator and Belial from Basketcase as the Secretary of State!

  • April 19, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Actually that sounds pretty good

    by Gwai Lo

  • April 19, 2009, 11:48 p.m. CST

    So I get it...

    by BetaRayRalph

    You're a frustrated writer who hasn't gotten a break,so you feel the need to hyper-criticize others who have made it. Not only that, you have a script in which you did a similar thing, but your excuse for doing yours is more valid than the Underworld guys doing theirs. The world doesn't need mean-spirited people like you. Talking the kind of jealous crap you do, you better make it in the industry. If you don't like a film or concept, don't watch it. It's as simple as that. When Underworld first got announced you should have seen the negative comments people lambasted against the movie and the filmmakers. Three movies and almost $300 million doallars later, the filmmakers are happy. The negative guys...are still negative and probably haven't gotten any closer to there dreams. They're too busy spending all their time on websites worried about someone elses careers instead of theirs. You sound mean-spirited and jealous. Why don't you have fun, do your movie and be happy. Let others to the same. We're geeks. All of us. Have fun with it, dude. I know I do. If you can do better, do it. Don't drag others down into your quagimre of despair, misery and frustration.

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