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Planet Of The Dead!!
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The First Of The BBC’s Four
2009 DOCTOR WHO Specials!!

I am – Hercules!!
“Palimpsest” says:
Hi Herc Another review of the first of the four Doctor Who one-offs that are running in the UK in 09/10 proir to the new series/new Doctor due to premiere under the fresh showrunner this time next year. I'll keep this relatively spoiler-free: on the upside, the confidence on display is breathtaking. David Tennant is on the top of his game. He's swaggering, serious, attentive, flirty, funny and serious as the situation demands. Guests Michelle Ryan (as a foxy posh heist-vixen) and Lee Evans (Welsh-techno-nerd) push the extremes of their character without overbalancing totally into parody. James Strong's direction is effective throughout, and displays an interesting attitude towards the possibilities of HD television (this is the first ep of WHO to be filmed in HD), with some superb shots and a distinctly cinematic style. The story's straightforward enough; a disparate group, including The Doctor, end up on a red London bus that rips through a wormhole being deposited on a desert planet. The next hour (a 60 minute episode this, with no commercials as this is the glorious BBC) is straight FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIX with asides to PITCH BLACK. For about 45 minutes it holds together fine. The last 15 minutes are weakened by contrivances that take it from SF to outlandish kiddie fantasy strictly for those who think the THE ABSENT-MINDED PROFESSOR equates to realism. There are earlier set-ups so patently rigged towards legitimising this last sequence that might well make a second viewing annoying in the extreme. The script's credited to Russell Davies and Gareth Roberts, though it's Davies' voice which shines through. Here (as usual with WHO) he's fantastic with banter, witty asides, character interplay (the sexual element between Ryan's and Tennant's characters is splendidly done), with building cohesive minor characters, with due regard to SF canon (a lovely QUATERMASS nod) and so on. The plot, though, is another matter - like any bubble, it's a lovely thing until it bursts, and this one pops a quarter of an hour early. Technical credits are, overall, fine. The practical effects are great throughout, and there's some decent CGI though some shows evident signs of budgetary/time constraints. On top of that, the idea that the ep builds to is so dumb that the best effects house in the world couldn't have saved it even with unlimited resources thrown at it. In summary, an annoying piece, ultimately. The first three quarters roll along beautifully but then it falls apart. Even when it does deconstruct though, the character dynamics and the clever dialogue writing make you want it to be better, resolution-wise. The ep was followed by a very effective trailer for the next special to come "later this year" - the hot money is on the late August public holiday in the UK - which looks at on this showing at least like a hard SF take on John Carpenter's PRINCE OF DARKNESS. Till next time
“Unknown Reader” says:
Hi Herc Just thought i'd chip in with a review of the brand new Doctor who special that has just aired this easter saturday in the u.k. Title - "Planet of the dead" writers - Russell T davies and Gareth Roberts. As most people know this is the first of four 1 hour specials to be aired through 2009 before David Tennant hangs up his coat and hands over to Matt smith next year. The episode co-stars Michelle Ryan who you americans might remember recently as the Bionic woman in the u.s tv show last year..Back in ole blightly she has made 2 genre appearences recently both in "Merlin" and now "Doctor Who" The other major guest star is comedian Lee Evans who has been in several u.s films but is better known in the u.k for his stand up comedy tours. SOME SPOILERS AHEAD The episode starts with Lady de souza (played by Ryan) stealing a precious artifact,a cup 1000 years old from a museum. Narrowly avoiding escape from the police she boards a London bus in the hope of escaping. The bus stops and The Doctor enters with a device that he is using to detect a wormhole..before we know it the bus has travelled through a wormhole to an alien planet!. The bus is badly dmaged but the passengers are ok..The doc manages to contact U.N.I.T back on earth and they set up a blockade at the earth side to the wormhole..they discover the wormhole is gaining size and even worse..there are stingray flying creatures that created the wormhole and are on there way to earth to devour everything !! What ensues is a race against time to get back..including lots of running about and help for the bug like creatures The Tritovores who have also crashed on the planet! After the fairly low key xmas special this is an an epic fast paced episode with lots to like but it's not perfect. THE GOOD David tennant for starters..we are so so going to miss him and it's heartbreaking to think there are only 3 more eps to go with him! Michelle Ryan is looking as gorgeous as ever..a natural beauty to behold! Lee Evans is very funny as Doctor Malcolm Taylor and The FX are of a high standard mostly..even more impressive as The Mill had little time to do them as this was filmed only 2 months ago! The Dubai setting gave the ep some added scope to it, though i wouldnt be surprised if some people thought it was a green screen effect! Some hints of darkness to come as the doctor is warned that his song is ending..the same message the Ood gave the Doctor in "The planet of the Oood" Episode. The Doc is also clearly damaged after losing all his companions in some way or another and doesnt take up the offer of Lady De Souza's company when offered to travel with him in the Tardis. THE BAD A slightly silly premise of the Bus flying ( so so Russell T davies, he can't help himself can he!) a slowish start and a couple of dodgy fx here and there but given the timescale this ep was made on it can be excused. All in all this was very enjoyable and would have made a better xmas special than "The Next Doctor"..not that that was bad at all but this had lots more fun but tinged with a hint of darkness to come. A brief clipS at the end showed a few scenes of the next special called "THE WATERS OF MARS"..rumoured to air in November before the 2 part finale which will end Tennants reign as the doctor..looks good but little was given away unfortunately. Only 3 Tennant eps to go but it looks like from this ep and from what i've read they are going to be crackers..can't wait! 8/10
“Celtican” says:
So the 4 month wait is over and finally the new installment of Doctor Who has arrived and to be honest even though the show has graduated to high def I'm still a little underwhelmed. The story starts off well enough if a little cliched with a 'by-the-book robbery of an expensive item in a using wires' the story then hops onto bus which rip roars through a wormhole to a seemingly desert world; but it's passable enough. Not classic Who but entertaining enough and better than we deserve. Tennant is on suitably manic form and with only a few more outings to go it will be a sad day when he regenerates into Matt Smith. He will indeed be missed. Michelle Ryan (late of the Bionic Woman and even later Eastenders) fills the companion role nicely demonstrating her received pronunciation skills as Lady Christina De Souza and a perfect foil for Tennant's Doctor. Their onscreen chemistry is great and one of the episode's saving graces. The supporting cast work well enough although I felt there were extraneous characters who didn't seem to contribute anything to the story, namely some of the bus passengers. Lee Evans (yes that Lee Evans from 'There's Something About Mary') provides the comic relief as a geeky Welsh U.N.I.T. scientific advisor whilst Noma Dumezweni makes a welcome return as U.N.I.T.'s Captain Erisa Magambo. We get to meet an interesting new race called the Tritovores that I'm sure Jeff Goldblum would love to meet but begs the question of how they put on their under t-shirts on with such big heads. To be honest these guys were a bit naff, overalls and fly heads would have been more at home in classic Who but I suspect the budget for this special was used up on the CGI which included a flying double decker bus and a swarm of planet killers (now theres a sentence I never thought I'd see myself write!). On the good side the location looked stunning, Dubai was an obvious choice and well worth the effort. The performances were spot on and the story (however contrived) moved along at a reasonable pace. Overall an enjoyable romp but could have been better.
“The Handsome 12th Doctor” says:
I wonder if the Brit folks in the talkbacks could help me out here. This was the first time that Doctor Who and Primeval have been shown directly against each other, right? It wasn't exactly tough choosing which to watch. Primeval is generally pants. Especially since Hannah Spearitt no longer wanders around her flat in her pants. That's enough pants....... Doc Who was specially class tonight. I thought it was wholly better than the Christmas day instalment. That one was a bit too by-the-numbers for my liking. Whereas tonight I had no idea what would be coming next. I.e. there was no hot air balloon shown in the first 10 minutes which, hmmm, do you think could come into play later? Also tonight the monsters felt far more threatening. Baddies seem scarier when they don't have any convoluted scheme and only want to eat. There was nicely looming build-up of suspense as the 'storm' approached. Now I'll quickly get the Pitch Black comparisons out of the way. Yeah those monsters looked similar, and so did the desert planet landscape, with multiple suns in the sky. But the comparisons end right there because....... well, they just do. Because everything else was different. It was strangely more akin to Flight Of The Phoenix. With the nifty addition of the Tritovore, which were a terrific creation that could so easily have gone wrong. The idea of half-man/half-fly things could have ended up like 1950's The Fly. Or even Fly Vs Fly. But they didn't. The make-up/prosthetic team did a superb job with their look. David Tennant again gave us a skilful performance. I prefer it when he solves things with a thoughtful scientific side, rather than just running around a lot. There was extra shiny support by Michelle Ryan, dressed appealingly Emma Peel-y at the start. I liked her character loads and I wanted to see it left open for her possible return. Lee Evans did some excellent comic relief. And I'm not referring to his dodgy Welsh accent. I did feel sorry for the black lady who easily had the most unconvincing character. I think her name was Mrs Exposition. Was she really only there to ominously preview a future episode? If we can ignore her drivel of dialogue then the rest of it was well written. "Quite a big estate" was something of a corny line but Tennant's deadpan delivery sold it. I also laughed at the cracked idea that the psychic paper works as an Oyster card. And then the climax, while being utterly ridiculous, was still totally appropriate. I was watching that with a great big smile on my face. Exactly the response that this show should elicit. Here's looking forward to The Waters Of Mars. With Lindsay Duncan (yay!). We may have to suffer a longer wait for it. I've heard talk of November time. That's bloody years away!
“Gabba-UK” says:
Hi Herc, Well it's popular Sci-Fi weekend here in Blighty. Last night it was the slightly disappointing return of Red Dwarf. My thoughts on the second part of that later on tonight when I got home from work to watch it Stuck at work however is where I am. Fortunatly for me, the first of David Tennent's last four appearences as Doctor Who is on and no one is here to stop me watching it. Matt Smith is going have be something special when he gets the keys to the TARDIS. Starting with a heist from a museam, Lady Lara Cro... sorry, Lady Christina de Souza escapes from the police onto a number 200 bus. Joining her is the Doctor, looking for something with one of his lovely low tech A-team style cobbled together gadgets. Complete with a little dish, he was quite proud of that and delighted when it started to spin. He's not so delighted as to the reason why it does. A wormhole is forming near the bus and as the police are chasing it to capture Lady de Souza it's a good thing for her too. Driving through the wormhole, the red London bus exits onto a alien desert world. Wailing and much confusion from the other passengers begins. Stuck in the sand with sand in the engine and going nowhere, the driver boldy and gallently decides to leg it back through only to be rendered to his blackened bones. The bus acted like a Faraday cage and the Doctor realize's they need to be in when it returns but it's not going anywhere and something else is on the planet. Something that's feeling a bit peckish..... It was a fun romp I thought and Lady de Souza, played by the horn inducing Michelle Ryan (she of the recent short lived Bionic Woman) was clearly having a blast with the part. And every male will have a blast looking at her. It actually got a little tense in places, the acting was good from all the cast. Standing out from the rest was the cameo by Lee Evans as a UNIT boffin contacted by the Doctor using his mobile phone trick, to help analyze the wormhole and shut it. The SFX were top notch and even the usually OTT background music was held in check. Good: Tennent. As always. Ryan. Shhwinggg!! Evans. Barking but in a good way. Script. Solid work from RTD. The end. A creepy foreshadowing warning for the Doctor 'He will come... and he will knock four times...' Bad: It's not on next week...... Overall, a very solid 8 out of 10. The next one is on mid-summer I believe and is called 'The Waters Of Mars' Classic sounding Who title if you ask me... can't wait. P.S. If this rumoured reboot of the Tomb Raider films happens they need to consider Ryan. Seriously.
“Supertoyslast” says:
All aboard for the 200th story of Doctor Who. After a daring raid on a museum, and chased by the police, aristocratic thief Lady Chrisitina de Souza makes her getaway on the number 200 bus. The Doctor is also on the bus, tracking a small wormhole. But when the wormhole suddenly grows larger, the bus and its passengers are stranded on a desert planet. And a storm is approaching... This was a brisk, fun adventure. It was light and a marked improvement on most of the Christmas specials which tend to be a bit underwhelming. The chemistry between Lady de Souza (a thief) and the Doctor (who stole his TARDIS from his own people) works well. It's good to see a companion who considers herself to be (at least) the equal of the Doctor. There were plenty of good lines and small touches, such as the Doctor's comment about being at the first Easter. "Between you and me, what really happened was..." The script was tight and the basic concept of Doctor Who meets The Flight of the Phoenix was satisfying. Lee Evans also turned in a memorable performance as an eccentric UNIT boffin. But I think what most people will remember is the warning given to the Doctor near the end: "Your song is ending soon. It is returning. Through the dark. And then.... he will knock four times." I'm guessing "He" will be the Master. And it would be cool if "It" was something like Gallifrey. I'm prepared to be way out on that one, but RTD likes to keep us guessing. There was a brief post-credits teaser for the next episode: The Waters of Mars. We didn't see much beyond the Doctor and a group of people in some sort of complex (presumably on Mars). They appear to be under seige by more people (apparently human) who spray water out of their hands. The Doctor says "Water always wins".
“Kelvington” says:
This episode of Doctor Who, one of the four specials we get this year, starts out like something from "Mission Impossible" with a heist, that was worthy of the Pink Panther, not the crap ones with Steve Martin, but the good ones with Peter Sellers. But I digress, the bus the Doctor and his new friend played by the lovely as ever Michelle Ryan, end up on a desert planet. This episode is a bit of romp, and it's great to see someone other than the Doctor take charge for a bit. While we only get to see Michelle as a companion for this episode it would be great to see the next Doctor pick her up for a good series or two. While there are many shades of "Midnight" in this episode. One thing Russell T Davies is very good at, is giving a little shock with his story. Including a bus driver who gets sort of terminator treatment, except in this case... seems skin can't pass through a worm hole. The story only seems to suffer when UNIT gets involved, I think the story would have been much better had it only dealt with the Doctor and the bus occupants. In the end, this is at best an average episode, nothing great, nothing to terrible. The fly guys are passable, the flying dust mites are mildly interesting, but the worst thing about this episode and the previous one, is you have all this talent, and it's only being partly used. I'll very much be looking forward to Moffat taking over. Just my 2¢
“Jadstersdad” says:
Guerilla review here....not much time....had to comment! Here in the UK it was the first of David Tennant's 4 final Dr Who specials before Matt Smith takes over next year. Simply....for me.....10/10 for this one. Funny how the shows really hit their stride towards the end of an actor's tenure. They got everything right in this one. God if only Michelle Ryan could be a regular companion. The pace, the humour, the script, the acting.....this felt like the 'Voyage Home' of DW. Not to every die hard fan's taste maybe, but for this fan....Wow! And, I suspect, for the ordinary viewer also. Look forward to hearing what everyone else thought. for now
“GreenFlashlight” says:
hey herc, Just watched the easter doctor who special and have a few thoughts. Overall a very good, old school standalone episode. Michelle Ryan was great as a Lara Croft rip-off. I was worried that the set up was a bit too similar to last season's Midnight episode but the fact that the majority of things occoured away from the confined space of the bus stopped this from being too repetitive. Lee Evans was very annoying as a mad scientist straight out of central casting and the insectoid aliens seemed a bit pointless, although I thought the prosthetics were above average. SPOILERS AHEAD The show ended with the Doctor being warned by one of the bus passengers (who has a 'gift') that his song is coming to an end. Could this be the return of Alex Kingston? And there was a hint of a big bad who would knock four times. SPOILERS DONE. Like I said, a steady monster of the week ep, just not what I expected when e were told we were only geting specials this year.
“V'Shael” says:
Hey Herc, You've probably been inundated with reviews of the Easter special, but I figure what the heck, I'd throw my two cents in. The episode is not as good as the Christmas special, and is about on a par for most of Russel's efforts. That means thatit's aimed at children, contains a few childish jokes, and makes basic errors in science, etc... Russel's script writing skills have always lain in the personality/relationship areas, and not in the plotting or factual science areas. (e.g. how far away is a visible horizon. If a wormholes radius is 4 miles, what's the point of clearing air traffic if you haven't cleared the streets of London, etc..) The main guest character is obviously Michelle Ryan, (of Eastenders and Bionic Woman fame) who plays the Lady De Souza. Her banter with the Doctor is very well done, and while the character is a bit sterotypical (think Lara Croft), she brings morecharisma to this one hour than she ever brought to the Bionic Woman. David Tennant plays off of her really well. He of course, brings his A game, as always. I'm really going to miss him in the role. Some of the effects in the show were very disappointing, particularly the swarm shots. They looked like they were rendered onan old 386 or something. Whereas some of the floating viewscreen shots were extremely well done. This might have been a budgetthing. And for those who were afraid (like myself) that the terminally unfunny Lee Evans would drag the episode to Slitheen depths of "comedy", breathe a sigh of relief. The man is playing it more or less straight. It's a quirky character, but Mr. Evans is not playingit for laughs. Thank your personal diety. The other guest characters on the bus, are mostly ciphers, though the minimal screen time they are given is put to good use. The psychic lady gives the Doctor an ominous prediction of his personal future, which won't come as a surprise to anyone. The resolution of the plot, again, won't take anyone by surprise. It's pretty by-the-numbers stuff. I'd give it a 2.5 out of 5. And that's actually better than Iexpected.

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  • April 11, 2009, 5:12 p.m. CST


    by thewiseman

    i must be the only brit who (no pun intended) hates everything to do with the Doctor

  • April 11, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    More RTD shit

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Bring on the Moff.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Anybody know..

    by Sebilrazen

    ...when the torrent is gonna be up?<br><br> I meant to say, when it airs in the US?

  • April 11, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST


    by thewiseman

    Im just too cool to proclaim first. darn it, i just did

  • April 11, 2009, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Next Special Airs....

    by Celtican

    My money is on Saturday October 31st

  • April 11, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    The torrents were up almost immediately

    by V'Shael

    As were the clips on youtube.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:28 p.m. CST

    He will Knock 4 times

    by Lostboy007

    I know there have been reports of Jon Simms on the set of the last special

  • April 11, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST


    by thewiseman

    you should delete Gabba UKs review. Anyone who thinks Ryan should play Croft doesnt deserve any work being displayed on this site or any other.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:29 p.m. CST

    I remember seeing that

    by V'Shael

    the tv review site televisionwithoutpity stopped reviewing Doctor Who, because it seemed that every single viewer in the US was grabbing the show from the torrent sites. So there was no point in reviewing an episode which had just aired in the US. All the fans had seen it 12 months previously. <p> Herc at least gets it right, by reviewing (or at least posting the reviews) as soon as it airs in the UK. Not waiting a year and change for it to air in the US.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Knock 4 times... It's the rap-ap-ap-ap

    by V'Shael

    from the shows theme song. Remember the Master tapping the table, saying it was a drum beat?<p> Rap-ap-ap-ap Rap-ap-ap-ap Rap-ap-ap-ap. Russel has never been good at subtle, has he? Well, as a big loud gay man, how could he be?

  • April 11, 2009, 5:32 p.m. CST

    The Waters of Mars

    by Desmondo

    Presumably a Moffat episode? Isn't he doing one of the specials? It looks Moffat-eque...having made children afraid to look at statues or go near a shadow, now an attempt to make water look scary.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Enjoyed this more than I thought I would

    by supertoyslast

    For some reason, I hadn't felt any sense of anticipation for this episode. I didn't care either way - as if it was just another TV show and not Doctor Who. Maybe it's because I know that Tennant is leaving, but still have to wait a whole year until Matt Smith and Moffat take over full time. Plus, the specials are usually underwhelming.<p>So I was glad that this turned out to be entertaining (if not top-notch quality in terms of Who as a whole). After loving Series 3, I was quite bored by Series 4. I'm glad that Tennant is leaving at the right time, while people still want more.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:36 p.m. CST

    thewiseman...Ryan as Croft.

    by Gabba-UK

    Just an opinion fella, just an opinion.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:36 p.m. CST

    Bring on the Moff.

    by The_Man_Behind_The_Curtain

    Presumably a Moffat episode? Isn't he doing one of the specials?

  • April 11, 2009, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Hannah's pants are the best SFX in PRIMEVAL

    by palimpsest

    A show I've given up on, though Ms Spearrit is a lovely thing, and lead actors Doug Henshall and Ben Millar provide value above and beyond the call of duty.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Good God... praise for Michelle Ryan???

    by dr_lancer

    Interesting reviews... however, did all really not notice the wooden, cringe-worthy, so-much-less-than-a-leading-lady performance from Michelle Ryan. Sorry, but she brought so very, very little to the show. I can see why Russell T Davis, who is usually tight-lipped about future Dr Who has been telling all and sundry under no circumstances is she going be the new assistant. I really like Dr Who, have no qualms about Kylie or the other high-profile drop ins, but we needed so much more from the first movement of the final quartet.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Knock 4 times

    by supertoyslast

    Brilliant! I knew the Master was coming back, but didn't get that reference. I was fearful it was some kind of terrible 'knock knock' joke. Still no idea what the 'it' that is returning through the dark is, though. I'll stick by my guess of Gallifrey (or possibly Skaro).

  • April 11, 2009, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Can someone please tell me...

    by optimus122

    Was there a Dr Who christmas special this past holiday?

  • April 11, 2009, 5:43 p.m. CST

    The finale episodes...

    by Desmondo

    So it looks like RTD is bring back everyone and his dog AGAIN for the big David Tennant farewell. </br> What was the point in that last seasons finale if he is going to play same card, but now with the Master instead of Davros? The only thing that would make it memorable is an appearence by Eccelston. Never going to happen though.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Michelle Ryan

    by optimus122


  • April 11, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Praise for Michelle Ryan? Yeah, kind of.

    by V'Shael

    She's easy on the eye, I'll give her that.<br> And compared to her terrible version of Jaime Summers, I think this Lady DeSouza was a huge improvement. <br>Was she great? No, not particularly. But look who she was up against. Some ciphers, a black psychic with some of the weirdest speech patterns ever heard outside a community theatre, two man sized flies, and Lee Fucking Evans! She was the second best actor in the show by virtual default. <p>

  • April 11, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST

    optimus122: Yes, there was. It was "The Next Doctor"

    by V'Shael

    And though a lot of people didn't care for it, I thought it was better than Planet of the Dead. (The one that just aired.) <p> As always, let down by the ending. Only instead of riffing off Harry Potter with a flying bus, Russel decided to rip off Power Rangers. <p> He really is a fucking tool when it comes to Sci Fi. I can't wait for the Moff to take over.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:47 p.m. CST

    What absolute shite

    by spud mcspud

    Minority actor playing a role thye are completely out of their depth for? Check. The UNIT leader has as much gravitas as the woman who played Sky Marshal Dienes' replacement in STARSHIP TROOPERS. Stupid dialogue? Yep - the whole crystal drives the thingy speech - as dumbing down goes, it's as dumb as the spacey-wacey timey-wimey bit. Ripping off superior sci-fi? Well, ripping off TOMB RAIDER and PITCH BLACK is kind of scraping the bottom of that particluar barrel, and if there's one thing RTD does do well, it's rip off other people's ideas as he's too dumb to have a great idea of his own.<P> And the Master returning. How much more of a damp squib shitty ending can we possibly expect? An enemy wiyth absolutely no element of threat whatsoever, no charisma and no idea of how to be menacing, threatening or frightening. Just... ugh.<P> So RTD is pulling a Scorched Earth philosophy on the end of Tennant's reign. FUCK YOU RUSSELL T DAVIES - for giving arguably the best Doctor yet the worst possible fucking end to his tenure.<P> If not for Tennant and Michelle Ryan giving it their all, this episode would be a dead loss. What a fucking waste of time.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Xmas special

    by Lostboy007

    Optimus yes there was an Xmas Special, THE NEXT DOCTOR. Cybermen, Christmas and a sonic screw driver that was just a screwdriver

  • April 11, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    All of Britain

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    I had a feeling that 'all of Britain' would appraise this. I think because of the eps being spread out, so they feel more of an event. A great set of reviews there. <br>And for those asking if Moffat is writing any of this years specials the answers no, he isn't. As far as I'm aware.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Kwis is wrong by the way

    by palimpsest

    Lovely person though he/she seems to be thoughout the talkbacks. RTD is a great writer (and I'm prepared to argue that particular toss) though he's pants at story.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:52 p.m. CST


    by notspock2

  • April 11, 2009, 5:53 p.m. CST

    The planet of the dead was dead good!

    by Lloydywho

    It was great, I really enjoyed it. A bit of a romp. Silly at points? Perhaps. Role on later this year for the Waters of mars. Then the sequel the waiterrs of mars, forget to tip and you die! hehe sorry

  • April 11, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST

    12th Doctor

    by Desmondo

    Dang your right, no Moffat till next year, according to quick wikipedia search. Must have imagined that. <p> Apparently the guy writing Waters of Mars heads up The Sarah Jane Chronicles. So less Sally Sparrow/Riversong and more farting Ronnie Corbett.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST


    by Lloydywho

    Moffat is not writing any of the specials. RTD is writing the last two and the next one is RTD and I believe Phil Ford. Lots of speculation that the Master returns, and considering he has been seen filming along with Bernard Cribbens (who RTD has confirmed that he is the companion for the last 2) June Whitfield and Catherine Tate, oh and Lis Sladen too.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST


    by Human_Bean_Juice_

    I feel sorry for David Tennant. I saw him as Hamlet last year and the boy is way too good for this purile pish.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:57 p.m. CST


    by notspock2

    I enjoyed it, but it's a real stretch to think that nobody would have thought of sending a tow truck through the wormhole... <p> Methinks someone really wanted a flying bus in this episode, logic be damned.

  • April 11, 2009, 5:58 p.m. CST

    This was shit.

    by theGoldbergV

    Doctor Who has a problem in that all Russel T QueerEye's scripts are rubbish. I know its suppposed to be aimed at kids but come on! The reviewer is right about the Lara Croft rip off, and the special effects look really bad. Like Sci-Fi TV movie bad. The only thing good about Who is Tennant, and the fact that its not Torchwood. The only thing good about Torchwood is that at least its not Primeval. The only thing good about Primeval is that its not Demons. There is nothing good about Demons. British Sci fi really does suck. But then there's Being Human which actually is good and they show it on BBC Three. Which as any Britisher knows, is the home of shit. And rant over.

  • April 11, 2009, 6 p.m. CST

    Being Human was great!!

    by Gabba-UK

    Yanks, torrent that fucker now! You'll thank us.

  • April 11, 2009, 6:08 p.m. CST

    It was OK

    by Lloytron

    But nothing special. It had its moments, some great, and some clunking.<p>The biggest problem with it was that out of all the billions of creatures flying around at the end only THREE got rhough, and in that space of time The Doctor got to make three phone calls to Lee Evans.<p>Oh, and if you are a master criminal you don't replace something you steal with a cat with a squeaky moving arm. WTF was that about?<p>And yes, Being Human was very good, although I have to disagree that there was nothing good about Demons - It's not on any more, which is good.

  • April 11, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    That was okay...

    by donkey_lasher

    ...A bad plot that was worked well for the masses. It had it's bad points (the friendly Fly people) but it worked okay for a standalone episode. But please can we have less gifted people that predict the future of The Doctor? Can we have more subtle hints than someone suddenly giving out cryptic clues? Maybe Michelle Ryan as The Rani perhaps?<p> Tennant is also starting to get boring with his "Brilliance".<p> I hope that Simm comes back as The Master, but I doubt it as he isn't one to stick in one role. But if it's true and he does return, i'm happy. Perhaps in a way that he brings back the Timelords by manipulating time. That would be cool.

  • April 11, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    David Tennant will be missed.

    by fiester

    I don't envy this new kid taking over for him. I suppose if Moffat has confidence in him, it will be all right but still... <p> And have they said anything about who the new companion will be once the new Doctor takes over? If it's River Song, that would be really weird as the actress is at least 20 years older than the actor playing the Doctor.

  • April 11, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Obvious Master reference

    by mooli_mooli

    With the knocking - at least, I hope so. And I hope it's Simm again (unlikely though that is) and I hope he gets a better showing. <br><br> This episode was okay - pretty forgettable. Too much hanging about at the end after the climax, and Lee evans repeated "I Love You!" was uncomfortably forced, and the phone gags were desperately unfunny. <br><br> The worst thing though was the score - overloud, repetetive, desperately trying to be rousing but just sounding like it had been run through a random last-night-at-the-proms generator.

  • April 11, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Coupla things

    by in6087

    1. We're gonna miss Russell T. Davies when he's gone. When watching subsequent series of Doctor Who, we'll vaguely remember that there was this thing called emotion that was pretty important when telling season-length stories. Mind you, I'll be glad to see an end to all the fucking particle effects we've been subjected to while Davies has been in charge. 2. "He will return from the darkness." The Master just died, he wasn't sent to any darkness. That makes me thing perhaps we'll be dealing with the satan figure from Impossible Planet, or else something older from the canon, I'm hoping Omega. Also, the mention of knocking four times seems too obvious. Anyway, the Master knocked a repeated rhythm of four beats, making a total of 45,214 "knocks" in the last series (including the trailers). I made that last number up... Yours sincerely, in6087

  • April 11, 2009, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Moff will deliver

    by donkey_lasher

    Expect a darker Who. I can't wait.

  • April 11, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST


    by donkey_lasher

    Omega would be cool. The Timelords will come back, it's a fangeek's dream and if anyone can do it, it's him.

  • April 11, 2009, 6:35 p.m. CST


    by in6087

    I agree Moffat's written some great episodes and I do have confidence in his helming of the next season. I'm also looking forward to seeing the next darker episodes that will see the end of Davies's and Tennant's involvement in the series.

  • April 11, 2009, 6:38 p.m. CST

    I still want to see the flying bus................

    by axcel1

    And, that's all I'm going to say. Spud Mcspud is on the warpath about this Who Special, so, I won't say what usually say when Doctor Who airs and get him mad.

  • April 11, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    Pitched way too young

    by Pistachio_Wildebeest

    Tennant's great as ever, but he's wasted on this. It's infantile fantasy given a get-out-of-jail free card because Who's a cultural icon. And as always, RTD's script is full of holes: the wormhole's two-way and they're talking via magic cellphones, so all they need to do is get UNIT to throw a winch through and haul the bus back, problem solved.<p> Who's wildly uneven - one week you get Blink, and one week you get this. Moffet can't take over soon enough - just because you're making child-friendly programming doesn't mean you can't also make it smart. Still, kudos for the hundred billion casualties, and more geek cred for Michelle Ryan.

  • April 11, 2009, 6:44 p.m. CST


    by The Penultimate Gunslinger

    I hope to god he tones down the campness when he finally takes over from Russell T. Humour is fine, but Tennant's gurning is beginning to eat away at my soul. After Moffat's brilliant library episode last series (or whenever it was) I have faith he can make Doctor Who awesome.

  • April 11, 2009, 6:45 p.m. CST

    Fair play Gabba

    by thewiseman

    She just cannot act. Its like watchin a child doin a nativity play

  • April 11, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST


    by The Penultimate Gunslinger

    Though I'm dreading Russell T's Christmas special when undoubtably we'll have another over-blown effect fest with a load of bullshit going on and too many characters. Save us Moffat!!!!

  • April 11, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST

    in6087: Two things.

    by V'Shael

    1) Omega's dead. No indication that he could survive an anti-matter explosion like that. <br> 2) The quote was "It is returning" not "He will return".

  • April 11, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST

    i admit i laughed inappropriately

    by Mr_X

    when the dr started speaking in the alien language. that black actress was awful. michelle ryan, lee evans, i have nothing against them, they just had to work with the material they were given. surely by now ryan can smell a shit script a mile away. flying buses yay back to the future! i kept wondering how the fuck a bus can out run a police car. I knew it was shit as soon as there was running down corridors in the first 5 minutes.

  • April 11, 2009, 6:56 p.m. CST

    US Airing?

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    got to wait a year or more?<p> Is it Hulu'able?

  • April 11, 2009, 6:57 p.m. CST

    The Crystal ship

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    Was the part about the spaceship being driven by the crystal supposed to be a respectful Star Trek reference? Or, was it there to set up a joke at Trek's expense when the Doc threw the crystal away later?

  • April 11, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST

    why didn't the bus driver stop the bus?

    by The Penultimate Gunslinger

    When the Police were chasing them? Why was he trying to get away? To Davies plot holes are nothing more than minor inconviences.

  • April 11, 2009, 6:59 p.m. CST

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

  • April 11, 2009, 7 p.m. CST

    This fucking site

    by OptimusCrime

    AICN needs to step up its game. We've got news about a Venom spinoff and a fucking Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie, and this site says nothing. Pathetic.

  • April 11, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST


    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    Have you ever been on a bus when the driver is behind schedule?Those fellas are nutbags who wouldn't stop even if a group of puppy-carrying orphans were crossing the road ahead of them.

  • I agree with most of the criticism of Davies and the praise of Moffat but I think Davies also did a few good things that people overlook. The first was the way he dealt with Rose, emphasising the Doctor's companions much more than they ever had been before. I think this move helped to popularise Doctor Who and bring it much more into the mainstream. By making people care about the Doc's relationship with his companions, he was able to bring much more emotion (and even heartbreak) into the seasons. I'm thinking about Doomsday here, mainly. He also created more strategic storylines with threads that gave the season finales more "punch" (Bad Wolf, Saxon). I also appreciate the way that most viewers knew what the main spoilers were going to be in each season (daleks, the Master), but Davies still threw a few surprising curveballs (Saxon stealing the Tardis, Daleks vs. Cybermen, Tenant's apparent regeneration). Davies also brought back a series that three generations of a family can comfortably watch together and enjoy in the same room. I can't think of any other TV show that does that (OK, that's subjective). His move to get Doctor Who specials broadcast on public holidays was also genius I thought. I know Moffat can write brilliant, creepy individual episodes and two-parters. In my opinion he is currently unproven when it comes to creating seasons of episodes. But here's hoping!

  • April 11, 2009, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Did you get that, Herc?

    by OptimusCrime

    A BUFFY movie. It's that serious.

  • April 11, 2009, 7:13 p.m. CST

    RTD did a lot, true.

    by V'Shael

    But he's a terrible terrible sci fi writer. And he's always aiming the show at kids. He contradicts himself, by saying the Sara Jane Adventures are for kids, Torchwood is for adults, and Doctor Who for the middle ground. But I can't think of a single RTD Doctor Who script that was more mature than anything in Sara Jane's show. <p> And yeah, he's good at setting up season arcs. But he's shit at getting them to a conclusion. Bad Wolf's conclusion was awful. The Master's return was the gayest thing since AIDS. And Davro's episode ended with the TARDIS towing the planet Earth. For fucks sake. <p> Moff can write excellent scripts. He DOESN'T aim the show at kids. He writes excellent characters (we're all still talking about Sally Sparrow, and River Song). Even if he doesn't do season arcs, I'd take 12 stand alone episodes like Girl in the Fireplace, or Blink, or Fathers Day, or Forest of the Dead, or the Doctor Dances, a year, easily. Moff doesn't have to write them all. He just has to know a good script when he sees it.

  • April 11, 2009, 7:16 p.m. CST

    aah, Omega's always presumed destroyed

    by in6087

    'tis true though that the line is "it is returning through the dark". I wonder if this "he" who will knock 4 times could be someone like the Watcher from Logopolis... Well, in the past I have always found my speculations to be useless...

  • April 11, 2009, 7:17 p.m. CST

    No, it;'s The Master, for sure

    by V'Shael

    Bank on it.

  • April 11, 2009, 7:32 p.m. CST

    As long as Davies doesn't

    by in6087

    bring back Bertie Bassett and the Licorice fucking Allsorts, I'm happy.

  • April 11, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST

    No more Fart Aliens

    by Melvin_Pelvis


  • April 11, 2009, 7:51 p.m. CST

    by palimpsest

  • April 11, 2009, 7:52 p.m. CST

    by palimpsest

  • April 11, 2009, 7:52 p.m. CST

    New computer time

    by palimpsest


  • April 11, 2009, 7:52 p.m. CST

    by palimpsest

  • April 11, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Reboot - my apologies

    by palimpsest

  • April 11, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    by palimpsest

  • April 11, 2009, 8 p.m. CST

    this cunting thing

    by palimpsest

    Might just send me mad. Ah well. The whole Davies = bad / Moffat = good thing is too simplistic. The simple fact is that Russell Davies is a great scripter, though he's not my idea of a great WHO scripter. He does marvellous character work and he has a fine eye for a curveball, plus he is the best in the business for portentious names for plot devices. I have go go now and de-fuck this PC.

  • April 11, 2009, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Oh, the other thing

    by in6087

    I liked about Russell T. Davies was the way he manipulated the media to deceive the public. Like when he gave a press release from the BBC before the Sound of Drums, implying that the episode would involve a fleet of Timelord warships.

  • April 11, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    Alex Kingston as River Song

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Not afraid to show tits in things like Moll Flanders & Croupier.

  • April 11, 2009, 8:45 p.m. CST

    I saw Russell Davies earlier

    by johnnylawless2

    going for a walk down the bay whilst I was having a fag break. Just thought i'd share this earth-shattering news with you good people.

  • April 11, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Just let me know when Martha Freeman shows up...

    by HollywoodHellraiser

    so I can have the lube ready!

  • April 11, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    A Pitch Black Ape

    by Carri

    They aped Pitch Black, and I hate Pitch Black. I thought the entire ep was by the numbers predictable. And while Michelle Ryan makes for nice eye candy, her looks could not save a bad ep. It was boring. The characters were dull and predictable. Nothing stood out in this ep at all. And it relied too heavily on CGI. The trailer for The Waters of Mars did look much better. I'm hoping it will be.

  • April 11, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST

    sounds like classic RTD

    by punto

    a good idea, falls apart during execution

  • April 11, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    a million times better than the last one

    by jccalhoun

    there were some real problems with this one. Like why they didn't just have the treasure in a glass case like every other treasure in every other museum, like the flying bits, like the pointless people on the bus. However, it was still a million times better than the Victorian steampunk wank-off of the Christmas special. <br><br>it looks like they blew their budget on this one and the next one will be shot entirely on sets. That's cool with me. I just hope that they make some reference to the Ice Warriors who ware from Mars or the Osirians who also had a presence on Mars

  • April 11, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Am I the only one who thinks John Simm isn't The Master?

    by Amy Chasing

    He plays a good Doctor Who villain (if a tad over-the-top, but is kinda to be expected from RTD) but Derek Jacobi had more of The Master's facial expressions, voice and character in his few minutes being The Master than John Simm's did in his entire performance. <P> It was like they made Simm's Master an evil Doctor - which he isn't. So hopefully if The Master comes back they look at some old Roger Delgado tapes, or even Anthony Ainley, and give us a character we can recognise as The Master. He doesn't even need the van dyke, just the intensity in his eyes (note: not insanity), the commanding tone of his voice (give us a "I am The Master and YOU will OBEY me!" at least), and the devious mind (so not one that mostly parallels The Doctor). <P> If anything please don't let The Master sweep across the set like The Doctor does. The Master should be focused, determined and interested only in his survival. Deep down he's a coward and IMHO shouldn't have time for sweeping across anything.

  • April 11, 2009, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Jesus, DeSousa wasn't a Lara Croft rip-off...

    by AnnoyYou

    ...she was an Emma Peel rip-off. I think Ryan did OK, but I'm glad she won't be back as the companion (at least I hope not -- too bratty). I will agree that this ep. was typical of Davies: lots of people of color (no gays though this time), lots of running and jumping around, lots of macking on the Doctor, lots of ominous foreshadowing, etc. It was fun, though not particularly original. I can hardly wait until the fall episode though - Ten vs. Servilia! Now that I'd pay to see.

  • April 12, 2009, 2:06 a.m. CST

    RTD isn't a writer

    by ides

    His show running was decent. . . he did a good job with the overall tone of the show. He even wrote a handful of good episodes, though only about a 20% success rate. He just happened to be completely tone deaf when it came to plot that was more complicated than spectacle or cheap thrills. . . he seemed to love the camp and completely random aspects of the old show, and could not get past it. On a completely different subject, I wish they'd bring Sally Sparrow back as a long-term companion. She is extraordinarily pleasant to gaze upon.

  • April 12, 2009, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Liked the "Robot" reference.

    by Andy Travis

    The first Tom Baker serial.

  • April 12, 2009, 2:52 a.m. CST

    I'm kinda hoping for Sutekh, last of the Osirians.

    by thethedew

    ...from 'Pyramids of Mars'. Dr Who nerd. Yep. Me.

  • April 12, 2009, 2:56 a.m. CST

    YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got to see the flying bus!!!!!!!!!!!

    by axcel1

    And, everyone, I'm sorry, but, I enjoyed this one from begining to end. spud mcsud, the Handsome 12th Doctor, jccalhoun, V'Shael, everyone, sorry again, but, I have to say what I always say, which is........ I hope you all enjoy the next Doctor Who Special, "The Waters of Mars" in August, I hope, I already know I will. 'nuff said!!! A happy Easter to all and to all a good night!!!!

  • April 12, 2009, 2:57 a.m. CST

    in true Doctor Who tradition...

    by TinSpider

    it was shit.

  • April 12, 2009, 2:59 a.m. CST

    Oh, by the way, one question............

    by axcel1

    What holiday do you guys have in the UK?

  • April 12, 2009, 3:04 a.m. CST


    by axcel1

    I meant, what holiday in August do you guys have in the UK?

  • April 12, 2009, 3:16 a.m. CST

    I enjoyed it

    by lonniebeale

    I thought it was fairly good, not the greatest, but fun, and there is nothing wrong with that!

  • April 12, 2009, 3:28 a.m. CST


    by TinSpider

    We don't really have a holiday as such. Just a 'bank holiday' were everyone has the day off work and lots of people go down the pub and get pissed. It doesn't have any meaning though like Easter or Christmas.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:32 a.m. CST

    August Bank Holiday, axcel1

    by The_Man_Behind_The_Curtain

    It falls on the first Monday of the month.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:42 a.m. CST

    August bank holiday

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    I thought it was the last Monday of the month. TinSpider is correct about it not having any meaning or significance. We just like to have the day off.<p>But the next episode of Who may not be on that weekend. RTD has said in an interview that it'll probably be on in November. Though this has yet to be confirmed by the BBC, who are the ones that decide scheduling. Not him.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:47 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    I liked RTDs 'Second Coming' but I don't see the justification for the near-messiah treatment he gets here in the UK. He's a particularly bad Doctor Who writer. All my favourite new Who eps (Father's Day, Empty Child, Girl in the Fireplace, Impossible Planet, Human Nature, Blink) have been by different writers. I think he simply had too much on his plate and his episodes (particularly the finales) have suffered accordingly. He once boasted about writing Last of the Time Lords in 4 days. And it certainly showed.

  • April 12, 2009, 3:51 a.m. CST


    by kwisatzhaderach

    Sorry guys...I have NO idea what happened there! Think I might have picked up palimpsests cunting computer problem!!! Apologies.

  • April 12, 2009, 4:14 a.m. CST

    Fucking Hell this REALLY FUCKING SUCKED!!!!

    by alucardvsdracula

    Verdict 8/1,000,000. Russell Tit Davis clearly ran out of steam a loooong time ago. Can't wait for his departure for fucking good. This absolute turd of a "special" looked like it was developed out of a night Davis spent sucking too much cock and had his stomach pumped. Either that or it was written by his ten year old rent boy. Tennant was on autopilot waiting for his final paycheck, Michelle Ryan was fuckable, but JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ANNOYING!!!!!!! I was screaming at the TV for the bus to explode at the end just so she NEVER COMES BACK. EVER. She's probably the worst actress working today, which means that she'll continue to sponge off the BBC for many years to come. Anyone, and I mean, ANYONE OF YOU WANKERS who actually thought this was passable as a "special" should consider themselves immune to such trivial things such as decent plotting, acting, direction etc, etc. On the flip side though, Britan's Got Talent was Ace. Now where is that shotgun.

  • April 12, 2009, 4:25 a.m. CST


    by dj_bollocks

    My thoughts... It wasn't bad actually... Ryan's character injected a little bit of cute sassiness that hasn't been in Who for a while now where all the female characters seem to be flawed emotionally or have some inane pantomime quality to them - re Christmas episode. It was by no means outstanding but one hopes that Gareth Roberts contribution was to filter the RTD bullshit factor. You got a sense of a realistic threat although still a bit meh, but far more believable than the Cyber merchandise at Christmas. I also kind of get a sense that watching these there's the wrong type of feelings regarding where this is all going... like we know the ending, we're just killing time til the new doctor and the Moff take over... I hate that most of all... We know what's coming and I feel a sense of lack of anticipation about it all because we'll probably know it all before we see it... and we know far too much already. For what it's worth though a good way to spend an hour of your time - the Confidential afterwards seemed fun too and The Waters Of Mars piqued my curiosity too - although it does look dangerously almost now clicheed Moffat-esque... Enjoy !

  • April 12, 2009, 4:32 a.m. CST

    Amy chasing

    by nervous twitch

    The Master. Interested only in his own personal safety? Yes. Coward? No. At least that was the case in the classic series. Remember, this is a character that had come to the end of his regenerations and through sheer force of will and hate managed to stay alive despite being a walking corpse. A coward would have rolled over and died. I've hated most of what they've done to the character in the last 20 years or so. Poor Anthony Ainley was constantly being told to ham his performances up right up until the excellent Survival. And Jacobi? In just 5 minutes he was possibly the greatest Master of them all.

  • April 12, 2009, 5:11 a.m. CST

    Missed gag...

    by King_Knut

    surely a wormhole bigger than 100 Bernards would be called a centibernard? ...anyone? St. Bern- oh, never mind.

  • April 12, 2009, 5:39 a.m. CST

    I've never seen the appeal

    by Muki

    of Dr Who. I can never get beyond the campness. It all just seems too silly and childlike - like it should be on CBeebies right after Peppa Pig rather than primetime BBC 1.

  • April 12, 2009, 5:39 a.m. CST

    No SNL Talkback this week?!

    by BurnHollywood

    For fuck's sake, it was actually a good episode, for once. Almost pissed myself several times...Jersey gays,, "I AM YOUR MOTHER!!!", foot massage lowdown...<p> Goddamn site.

  • April 12, 2009, 5:41 a.m. CST

    nervous twitch

    by Amy Chasing

    The reason I say The Master was a coward was because as soon as a plan of his went wrong he was out of there, running away with a mwahahahaha but cursing The Doctor until next time. I think he could be interested only in his survival and be a coward at the same time.

  • April 12, 2009, 5:42 a.m. CST

    Arsed. it was wank. Nobody cares about Dr Who now.

    by Mysterious_Volvo

  • April 12, 2009, 6:13 a.m. CST

    I think you're wrong Mysterious_Volvo

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    People DO care about Doctor Who. Hell, it's the longest running science fiction show in the world and is a British institution much like Superman is for Americans.<p>I thought this episode was quite fantastic personally.

  • April 12, 2009, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Wake me when Moffat takes over

    by belasco_house

    This was disappointing, shouldve been darker, scarier. Flying a bloody bus, she picked that up pretty easily

  • April 12, 2009, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Will Moffat save the show from campness...

    by kwisatzhaderach

    or follow RTD down the garden path? Time will tell...

  • April 12, 2009, 7:13 a.m. CST


    by Lloytron

    They should have called it a Schnorbitz... :D

  • April 12, 2009, 7:14 a.m. CST

    Belasco House

    by spud mcspud

    Let's not even get into how the bus can be manouevred, accelerated, raised, lowered and all that from a pair of fucking anti gravity clamps just shoved onto the sides of the bus. Or how the pedals and wheel of the bus make the bus move the way it does in the air.<P> Even RTD's old "it's for the kids" excuse won't work for this pile of shite. At this rate, the finale will be so dumb, it'll be:<P> Doctor: "Look! A temporal thingy!"<P> Totty Companion: "A what? How does that affect us?"<P> Doctor: "Oh, it's timey-wimey nasty-disastery stuff... Look, basically it's dangerous, okay? Go near that and we die!"<P> Totty Companion: "Why? I don't even know what it is yet! Explain like you're talking to an intelligent equal, not a three year old!"<P> Doctor: "This ain't a STAR TREK reboot, you know. We don't reverse the polarity of the neutron flow in this show. It's all timey-wimey and scary-wary stuff here."<P> Totty Companion: "Your third companion did, back in the days when Dr Who treated its viewers like thinking human beings and not newborns."<P> Doctor: "Piss off. I'm bringing back Rose, she knew her place."

  • April 12, 2009, 7:17 a.m. CST

    Third INCARNATION, not third COMPANION...

    by spud mcspud

    Haryy! EPIC FAIL FOR NOT HAVING A FUCKING EDIT BUTTON!!!<P> GGGAAAAAAAAARRGGGHHHHHH!!!!!<P> AICN = Davros. Fucking up my plans by not having an edit button...

  • April 12, 2009, 7:24 a.m. CST


    by Amy Chasing

    I miss Pertwee too. < sniff > <P> ya know, he was the only Doctor with tattoos.

  • April 12, 2009, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Amy Chasing

    by spud mcspud

    And Venusian Aikido! Don't forget Venusian Aikido!<P> The only Doctor who could do martial arts. Just think - if Matt Smith gets mad MMA skills, we could have NINJAS in the next series!<P> NEVER BACK DOWN vs GALLIFREYAN NINJA... UK SF gold.

  • April 12, 2009, 7:34 a.m. CST

    RE Pertwee...

    by spud mcspud

    Does anyone else think it would've been nice to see Paul McGann's Doctor for a season appear to be all Byronic and Gothic...<P> And then turn out to be a dandy highwayman who kicked ass like Pertwee?<P> No? Just me then.<P> And I'd LOVE to see Bess again too...

  • April 12, 2009, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Could there be a figure apart from the master...

    by emeraldboy

    that really scares the bejesus out of the dr. a character that we dont know about. to scare the dr it would have to be something or someone really big. from the drs past that the dr thought was defeated. I have no idea personally. though it could be to do with gallifrey and the time war. Tennants dr, was on the run when he came to earth. and i do seem to remember in the finale of the fourth season, before the dr destroyed davros, davros and the dr had a stand off before the dr disarmed the reality bomb. I seem to recall davros mentioning the drs demagogary and he destroyed worlds and cared little for human beings. last night the dr said matter of factly that he lost 4 companions and that it would never happen again. I have no knowledge of what will be in the 3rd and 4th of tennants last ever whos. a time trial. that would wrap the time war story. Martha, rose and donna are his witnesses at trial. Just before sentence is announced, the dr regenerates and this being a new dr has no memories of the time war. but as we saw in that promo image with matt smith outside the tardis. there are very dark times ahead for the new timelord.

  • April 12, 2009, 7:42 a.m. CST

    PRIMEVAL last night...

    by spud mcspud

    Has anyone in the Primeval cast of characters authorised a Clone Army?<P> I think Helen may be a Separatist. She's in league with Jar Jar Binks. Muy muy plagiaristic!

  • April 12, 2009, 7:48 a.m. CST

    alucardvsdracula Oh dear

    by Lloydywho

    BGT was ace? Really! If that is what you consider ace lowest common denominator tv then please don't get abusive in your posts and call people who liked an episode (of a show that has been around for 45 years) wankers, that is just rude and you are evidently a freaking moron. Now go and pop yourself down in front of ITV and marvel at the stream of cack that hits your squinty eyes.

  • April 12, 2009, 7:50 a.m. CST

    I'd like it to be the Beast...

    by spud mcspud

    But have no idea how you'd bring it back. Davros? Could come back, but seeing how that was handled last time... just UGH.<P> Bring in the Valeyard. Or the Rani. ANYTHING but the Master... John Simm as the most emasculated Master ever. Even Eric Roberts had more menace in his portrayal than John Simm!<P> Wake me up when Moffat takes the reins. I dread to think how awful Tennant's exit will be - and how much he deserves better.

  • April 12, 2009, 7:52 a.m. CST

    And what's with bottle episodes as Specials?<P>

    by spud mcspud

  • April 12, 2009, 7:52 a.m. CST

    And what's with bottle episodes as Specials?<P>

    by spud mcspud

  • April 12, 2009, 7:55 a.m. CST

    And what's with bottle episodes as Specials?

    by spud mcspud

    Why are the first two "Specials" self-contained stories with people trapped and panicking in confined spaces? Shouldn't the specials be expansive, epic, doing something NEW with the format? Instead, we get different versions of MIDNIGHT with different monsters but the same old cliched people-squabling-while-trapped-and-besieged-by-the-enemy story over and over.<P> RTD, step away from the NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD DVD. And then step away from making TV altogether.

  • April 12, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST

    What the hell's going on with AICN TB coding today?

    by spud mcspud

    Well weird. Wibbly-wobbly glitchy-witchy stuff, most likely.<P> Damn gremlin-wemlins.

  • April 12, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST

    BGT was pretty damn funny

    by GreenFlashlight

    although sometimes i feel guilty for watching the village idiots. And there was a treat for any fans of larger ladies!

  • April 12, 2009, 8:20 a.m. CST

    I reckon Omega will be the big villain, not The Master

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    You heard it first!

  • April 12, 2009, 8:22 a.m. CST


    by DrLektor

    That's exactly what I was going type. Galifrey will return and the Doctor will face Timelord judgement for his crimes. The "knock four times" is the judge's gavel. Guilty and the sentence is death, cue next regeneration. There's a lot of RTD haters, I think his main problem is that he replaces hard core sci-fi with pantomime and almost child-like fantasy. Doctor Who has always had that element of cheap, surreal fantasy true, but as an audience who laps up Galactica and creams our pants at gritty, despair filled outer space antics we've come to expect a bit more. Bring on the Moff.

  • April 12, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    spud mcspud

    by TinSpider

    d'yer know.... <br> I agree with everything you say.. especially your views on the Master.

  • April 12, 2009, 8:25 a.m. CST

    My question stands

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    Does anyone know if Doc Who and Primeval were ever shown against each other before last night? I have a drink bet on this. A friend says that a few episodes of the first series of Primeval were shown directly against Who. I say it never was.<br>(I think ITV did plan to do this but bottled it at the last minute)

  • April 12, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. But Dr Who was tedious crap last night.

    by taxman2001

    Whereas Primeval killed off the main character and was so much better. In fact Dr Who has sucked big time for the last few years. And when its sucks it makes Primeval so much better.

  • April 12, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST

    The episode was much better than the reviews.

    by Smashing

    It wasn't a load of self promoting guff.

  • April 12, 2009, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Amy Chasing - new regen should be...

    by spud mcspud

    KAT VON DEE.<p> Bored, Californian, female. And with tattoos.<P> Then we find out all this Matt Smith stuff is a smokescreen. God, would that be funny...

  • April 12, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    The Handsome 12th Doctor

    by taxman2001

    According to IMDB this was the first time Dr Who and Primeval went up against each other. Primeval has always finished its run a week or two before Dr Who commenced its.

  • April 12, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    Mrs Spud thinks Bettany should have been the new Master. Or the new Doctor. Or the original Constantine. ANYTHING!<P> One of the UK's most consistently under-rated actors. Get this man an SF series NOW!<P> HELLBLAZER the series, anyone? Or should we get REALLY innovative and have Bettany play an amnesiac Time Lord who survived the Time War and opens a fob watch, remembering he's been sent by the Council of Gallifrey to capture and return with the Doctor? And he's unaware that Gallifrey was destroyed...

  • April 12, 2009, 9:29 a.m. CST

    New Who Whooooooooo

    by carefulsilly

    Well, I for one thoroughly enjoyed it, and the set up for the next three specials made me whoop with joy. Russell has brought back Doctor Who with real emotion and real care, say what you like but this is miles away from the original series - of which I was indeed a fan. Tennant is now up there with Tom Baker and Peter Davison as my fave Doctor. Long may he remain at the top of the polls. Amd lets have sme more Michelle Ryan. Lovely, lovely. Steven x

  • April 12, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Thank you all for answering my question.......

    by axcel1

    About the August bank holiday. Here's hoping the last 3 specials are the best. I have to wonder, how are they bringing back, not just The Master, but, John Simms as The Master? Question, how do we know he's coming back as The Master? Just a thought.

  • April 12, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST

    Thanks taxman2001

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    I did look at IMDB earlier to no avail. I guess I didn't look in the right place.

  • April 12, 2009, 10 a.m. CST


    by DimensionsPlural

    Good episode, enjoyed it overall. Good omens that it's all going to get a lot darker from here on in, kids. I'm sure psychic lady said "HE is returning", not IT. So I don't thnk it's anything other than the Master returning for the 2-part Xmas finale. And considering Simms has ben spotted filming around Cardiff already, that's pretty much a given. Intriguingly, catherine tate is also rumoured to be popping up alongside the wonderful Wilf, maybe RTD wants to give her a happy ending? Could restoring her memories be the undoing of the 10th? BTW, the trial idea's already been done, let's not go there again...(recalls the names Pip and Jane Baker and shudders)

  • April 12, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    Pertwee was to The Doctor

    by Amy Chasing

    what Dalton was to James Bond. Don't get me wrong I love the way Tennant managed to incorporate bits of Tom Baker's Doctor into his own, and he's arguably the most popular Doctor ever, but there was a certain magic seeing The Doctor in 1960s Britain and then Pertwee and Baker in the 70s. Doctor Who has been a hell of a ride (and continues to be), but it'll never be like that again. <P> BTW someone mentioned that Michelle Ryan's character Lady Christina de Souza is an anagram of Lady C.D.Souza Is The Rani. RTD loves his letter games doesn't he...

  • April 12, 2009, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Ryan Riversong

    by Jonny_boba

    just a thought but did anyone else notice that michelle ryan called the doctor 'Spaceman' just like riversong did? and if i remember rightly there was an akward moment when the doctor said she looked like a time lord. Could this be a connenction between ryan and riversong in a role as a time lord, their flirting was very similar to that of the library episode, just a thought.

  • April 12, 2009, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Amy Chasing, to quote the face of Boe....

    by thecomedian

    YOU ARE NOT ALONE. I H-A-T-E-D John Simm's version of the Master. It was silly and made Ainley's cheesy over the top camp look brilliant in comparison. Even Eric Roberts was leaps ahead. Yes, the Master is supposed to chew scenery, even Delgado chewed his fare share. But he's not simply an evil version of the Doctor. What I've always wanted to see is the Master come back have it actually be one of the 12 earlier versions of him that we've never seen on screen. He supposedly burned through a bunch of his regenerations trying to take over the universe so it would make a great story to see this earlier Master fighting Matt Smith, burning through regenerations like Wiley Coyote to the doctor's road runner escaping in his tardis and then emerging out it at the end of the story in 1972 on the fairgrounds as Delgado.

  • April 12, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    So was that the Brigadier who was being saluted?

    by Shan

    Anyone else remember that bit where the lead UNIT officer was saluting someone in the middle of her phone call to the Doctor? And saying it was a honour - which was never referenced again? Who else could it have been but the Brigadier who will appear it a later special? You'd think Nicholas Courtney has to meet Tennant's Doctor especially since they did get him on the Sarah Jane Adventures.

  • April 12, 2009, 10:39 a.m. CST

    needed more Catherine Tate

    by Volllllume3

    I miss the DonnaDoctor :(

  • April 12, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Flying Bus ?

    by RobinP

    I was with it all the way until the hasty inclusion of the flying bus. It felt for all the world like someone suddenly realised that they were 50 mins into an hour script and needed to get everybody back in the next 10 mins.

  • April 12, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    The salute

    by Tindog42

    She was saluting the Doctor. He mentions it during the phone conversation. When they meet face to face she references it as she salutes him a second time.

  • April 12, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    Some more possible spoilers

    by series six

    RTD was on breakfast TV this week, but I caught it later on - in it he said that the doctor's companion for the final two specials was none other than Bernard Cribbens - Donna's granddad. Maybe the Donna Doctor is on her way back.

  • April 12, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST


    by proper

    Not special,filler episode.I'm just waiting for the decks to clear,and take the composer with you.Lee Evans with added Welsh [Don't start],Lame Fly people,is that really you???,what an honour....I'll leave it be,I don't want any trouble.....ahh for me it was lame and tedious ;>.Roll on the new school in 2010...

  • April 12, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    I could be wrong of course...

    by emeraldboy

    but the more I think about it. the more it makes sense. The time lord facing the time council. comprised of the original time lords. IT would make my day if tom baker played the time master. this is the ultimate ruler of gallifrey. a figure so powerful, the mere mention of his name sends a shudder down the spines of all gallifreyians. which is why they dont mention him. this dr knows his days are numbered. which is whay when he hears that his song is coming to an end he goes white.

  • April 12, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST

    I am going to throw all caution to the wind here..

    by emeraldboy

    and suggest that maybe donna dies. properly but we dont know how. she reads about the dr saving the bus load of passengers, but she reads that by accident her brain melts. she slips into a coma and dies. This breaks a cardinal rule with the time council. he is hauled back to gallifrey and is tried for war crimes. all of this story is told in a flashback. the dr is nearing his end. his regeneration is nearing. He takes Grandpa on a final trip around the stars. before returning home waiting for him are Martha, rose, donna and mickey and captain jack. The regeneration happens. Brand new who.

  • April 12, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Am I the only person who thought

    by montimer

    Michelle Ryan's character was somewhat reminiscent of Ace (Sylvester McCoy's companion)?

  • April 12, 2009, 11:57 a.m. CST

    spud mcspud

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Paul Bettany would be a genius Doctor.

  • April 12, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Kudos to Mrs Spud-To-Be

    by spud mcspud

    She called the Paul Bettany as Doctor. Personally, I'd accept anyone except Bill Nighy, who became a parody of himself about the time he played Viktor in the risible UNDERWORLD. An over-acting, over-rated aging hippy Doctor? *shudder*<P> Definitely would love to see a Bettany Time Lord... but I bet we don't.

  • April 12, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    Primeval lost 1.5 million viewers to Dr. Who

    by the grev

    Serves Primeval right for being crap

  • April 12, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    I know River Song has her fans

    by the grev

    But why would the Doc want to marry her when he could have had his hands on Michel Ryan's sexy arse? The mind boggles.

  • April 12, 2009, 1:02 p.m. CST

    If the time lords get involved you know there's only one outcome

    by dj_bollocks

    RTD Ret Con - leaving The Moff with a blank canvas... Lame and lazy - but likely...

  • April 12, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Russell T Davies just doesn't get it.

    by Ray Gamma

    Everything he has written for Dr Who seems to involve some stupid fucking goofy alien which takes the form of a bloke in a suit with an animal mask on. This time the mask is a fly head. </P> <P> The storyline was identical to every other RTD episode; A mixed bunch of 'ordinary people' stuck in a vehicle together, encounter a deadly CGI alien force. This time The Doctor makes a London bus fly. Yes. The next episode will feature Bonnie Fucking Langford. </P> <P> As someone said above; Wake me when Moffat takes over.

  • April 12, 2009, 1:10 p.m. CST


    by GreenFlashlight

    Someone else said earlier that this ep seemed under promoted and I have to agree. The fact that ant and dec beat this by about 3 million viewers (of which I was one) shows the beeb didn't give this its usual blanket coverage. Hopefully they will ramp things up for the conclusion.

  • April 12, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Something for Herc

    by proper

    I'm sorry everybody,It's a phase, Happy easter :>............

  • April 12, 2009, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Everyone is betting on the moff...

    by emeraldboy

    I think that there are some on this site who are putting too much expectation on the mans shoulders. RTD resurrected who and for thatt we all thank him. it didnt take long for people to turn against RTD. it wont take long for those who hated RTD to turn against the moff. mark my words. look at the reaction when we first to look at matt smith. both have very big shoes to fill. talkabckers are very fickle.

  • April 12, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Watching it again on BBC3

    by Youngdog

    had a lot of red wine at family lunch so sorry if I ramble. Nothing wrong with Michelle Ryan - she has a chin that bothers Patrick Moore but her Lara Croft rip-off has potential. I think DT probably boffed it. <P> Called the fly heads not making it as soon as they appeared and mad unit bint also in Turn Left with Rose. Also noticed Lee Evans got old overnight. Enjoy this doctor while you have him as David Tennant is probably the best actor who will ever play this roll. <P>Unless, as Human_Bean_Juice would attest, Patrick Stewart ever took it.

  • April 12, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Spud - RTD vs. SJA

    by DoctorTom

    "But I can't think of a single RTD Doctor Who script that was more mature than anything in Sara Jane's show." I'd say that Twilight would qualify.

  • April 12, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    As for this Lara Croft ripoff nonsense....

    by DoctorTom

    I'd agree that it's more of an Emma Peel ripoff. What it really felt like, though, was a nod to Cartmel's plan for Season 27 where he was going to have a cat burglar become the Doctor's next companion (thought of well before Tomb Raider). Also, if RTD wanted a Tomb Raider type, he could have borrowed the Doctor's wife from Moffat, or even used Bernice Summerfield instead (another female archaelogist adventurer thought up well before Tomb Raider)

  • April 12, 2009, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Fuck - ROLE not ROLL!

    by Youngdog

    Do I get balloons and banner if I'm the 1 millionth person to say DAMMIT HARRY! GEDDAFUGGINEDITBUTTON!

  • April 12, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Michelle Ryan is frakking hot

    by quintana007

    69 at anytime, baby

  • April 12, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    BBC and YouTube

    by Don Lockwood

    I thought BBC made a deal with YouTube to provide programming online for overseas viewers. Did I imagine that? <p> I'm afeared of torrents as I got a cease-and-desist letter from my ISP about a year ago.

  • April 12, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Will the Doctor's daughter return?

    by belasco_house

    Hope not. She was cute but didnt work for me. Reaked of spin-off, which thankfully hasn't materialised yet.

  • April 12, 2009, 2:28 p.m. CST


    by emeraldboy

    They are owned by google. bbc possibly shyed off that. Google pulled all music videos from youtube in the uk. I am having trouble using youtube at present. I log on and all i get is a message telling me I have either turned off my java flashplayer or to install the brand new update. Quicktime is annoying too. all i get there is a link to install the latest version of quicktime.

  • April 12, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Oh come on DoctorTom..

    by Youngdog

    ..Lady Christina stealing an artifact MI style - it aint subtle. We both agree, however, that the interpretation is right. Miss Ryan has picked up some tips while in LA it seems as she was bang-on against the Doctor last night. She looked gutted when he sent her packing and he looked like he'd made the biggest mistake of his very long life. Yeah they did it.

  • April 12, 2009, 2:42 p.m. CST

    This was a top episode

    by Steve Rogers

    Really, REALLY going to miss DT when he goes. He's made the role totally his own.

  • April 12, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Re: Britain's Got Talent comments

    by belasco_house

    Youtube Stavros Flatly. That was a pretty damn funny Michael Flatley spoof, spot on with the mannerisms

  • April 12, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    I pity the Fool!

    by popGeezer

    "POTD" was entertaining, and Ryan and Tennant had enough chemistry to make us sad they'll not be teamed up for a full run. Epic? No, but great fun. Tennant gets to do a riff with all the gathered "bus riders" early in the episode that shows his genuine emotional range with the Doctor. All I can say is, I pity the fool that has to follow this man as the Doctor. Babyfaced Matt Smith is leaving me colder by the week,

  • April 12, 2009, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Re: Stavros Flatley Jr.s impending psychotherapy bills

    by Mysterious_Volvo

    just kidding im sure he'll grow up well adjusted considering the most embarrassing moment of his life was just broadcast on national television and now lives forever on youtube. and probably wikipedia.

  • April 12, 2009, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Agreed . Again another RTD shitfest.

    by wowsah156

    The big problem for Uk Who fans has been RTD's "soap opera style scripts for Who and also the sexualisation of the doctor. for a lot of older who fans the idea of The doctor kissing is a big big no no. The doctor is a asexual alien. Thats why7 the dynamic of the conpanion aways worked in previous incarnations Baker, Pertwee etc. But for RTD he eems to insit of using every chance to try to get The Doctor kissing women. Its not decent. Bit i admit RTD has made Who popular with a new generation. Even if that generation is a cheesburger eating, mobile phone loving, feckless Asbo nation. Here hoping that Moffat brings back the intelligent script writing that Who had in the seventies and gives us the dark satire that who always was.

  • April 12, 2009, 4:31 p.m. CST


    by Dreamfasting

    A modest stand-alone episode, but not exactly special. Given that the title was "Planet of the Dead", I was expecting the former inhabitants of the planet to have a larger role in the story. There were a lot of parts, but it felt a bit more like a checklist of story elements rather than an actual story that all fit together.

  • April 12, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Wowsah156, the ladies love DT

    by Youngdog

    They can't help it. I can't explain it but its true that every time he snogs on TV a wave of 10 million whimpers sweeps across Britain <P>I always said, if I had to fuck a guy . . . I mean had to, if my life depended on it . . . I'd fuck David Tennant.

  • April 12, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    @ kwisatzhaderach

    by palimpsest

    LOL sire, you a talkback legend, and no mistake.

  • April 12, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST

    A bit late, but...

    by OGoncho

    Can't fucking wait to see the back of Russel T. Davis and hopefully he'll take his conveniently placed psychic old women with him.<br><br>What cunt.

  • April 12, 2009, 5:47 p.m. CST

    spud mcspud - nice one

    by FamousEccles

  • April 12, 2009, 5:49 p.m. CST

    BEING HUMAN = awesome

    by FamousEccles

  • April 12, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    rtd = shit

    by FamousEccles

    planet of the dead = shit

  • April 12, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Michelle Ryan is totally fuckable

    by FamousEccles

    anyone notice rtd's little anti-Christian moment

  • April 12, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Michelle Ryan can't fucking act.

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    She's worse than Freema Agyeman.

  • April 12, 2009, 6:05 p.m. CST


    by FamousEccles

    nobody's worse than Agyeman

  • April 12, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    didn't watch it

    by cool_britannia79

    WHO had 2 years to sell itself to me once I realised Tennants best years were behind him, and it failed fucking miserably. I won't be watching anything RTD writes, and I don't give a toss what shoddy plot device they use to introduce the new youngling doctor. he is fucking shite as well by the way. i wanted a pensioner doctor, making the assistants relevant again in an action role instead of being a friggin love interest every 5 minutes. and please, no more catherine tate. she was bollocks.

  • April 12, 2009, 6:29 p.m. CST

    Poor Episode.


    I don't know who the fools reviewing 'Planet of the dead'. above are, because it was shit. it was for me, one of the worst episodes of the new Dr Who ever. Apart from a few good one liners ( which seemed to move it into Carry on Doctor Who Territory), everything about it was sub standard. I was embarrassed for the whole Dr Who team. This is what happens, when a show gets to big for its boots. It forgets what made the revival such a great hit. At least the next special, looks better.

  • April 12, 2009, 6:32 p.m. CST

    Opinions are like apples

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    I don't know who the fools reviewing it above are either. But personally, I thought it was good.

  • April 12, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    For a brief second, The Brits ruled the TalkBacks


    With Doctor Who in #1 and Red Dwarf in #2, you guys were in total AICN talkback control.<p>Feel proud.

  • April 12, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    who needs Michelle Ryan acting???

    by quintana007

    She should just show up in every scene, schwing

  • April 12, 2009, 7:14 p.m. CST


    by Lloytron

    The writers of Bionic Woman needed her acting, to cover up the abortion of a script.

  • April 12, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    The Handsome 12th Doctor

    by Celtican

    What kind of world do we live in where us 'fools' are berated for having an opinion. Personally I think he's miffed cause Herc wouldn't accept a review written in crayon ;-)

  • April 12, 2009, 8:05 p.m. CST

    Not Bad. Expected higher Production Value tho

    by mistergreen

    For only doing 2 episodes a year, I expexct the special effects to be much more. M Ryan was hot. Too bad she won't be on the show.

  • April 12, 2009, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Lee Evans in actually funny shocker!

    by pokadoo

    And Ryan was good too! Great fun episode.

  • April 12, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    My Easter Doctor suit!

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    Check it: <br> <br>

  • April 12, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST

    I can't believe how bad that was.

    by DoctorWhat

    I was really surprised how much I hated this episode. I am beginning to wonder why I bother to watch Doctor Who if the episodes are going to be so poorly written. And for a guy who writes a Doctor Who blog (, that's saying something! Save us, Steven Moffat from the hell that this show has become! Maybe I'm being a tad bit melodramatic....

  • April 12, 2009, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Easter connections.

    by DoctorWhat

    I misspelled my own blog. Sad.... That's better. Anyway, did anyone else notice the Easter connections in the episode? The main female character was named Christina (a feminine form of Christ); the bus returned from a "planet of the dead" like Christ allegedly returned from the dead; and Christina stole a golden cup that looked a lot like the Holy Grail (which somehow managed to return all of the bus passengers to the realm of the living).

  • April 13, 2009, 1:48 a.m. CST

    Dear God.

    by The True Priapic

    What was the point of this special?Why are they just reusing Ood Sigma's warning?If the Doctor knows his time is up then all drama dissipates.He's ready and likely willing to regenerate.This is just silly.Seeing a sit's highly unlikely that a Christmas Day special is going to be dark and scary it fills me with dread as to what is to come.John Simm's clown Master isn't that welcome.Hopefully he's settled in to the role and genuinely portrays menace this time.Christ almighty.

  • April 13, 2009, 4:08 a.m. CST

    BRITS will ALWAYS rule the talkbacks

    by cool_britannia79

    because we are just fucking awesome. i'm sat here listening to the who, sipping my tea, and contemplating some afternoon cricket. god save the queen. but not the doctor, he can fuck off.

  • April 13, 2009, 6:27 a.m. CST

    Am I the only person

    by Ckuouka

    who thought it was the absolute worst Doctor Who episode I've ever seen. Seriously. I thought it was completely and utterly awful. I especially hated that annoying Lee Evans character. "I love you, Doctor." What the fuck is that? I really hoped the UNIT lady would've shot him for disobeying orders like he did. I felt like I was watching a children's television special for most of the episode. Very disappointing. I disliked this more than any other episode, including the ones with the farting aliens.

  • April 13, 2009, 6:52 a.m. CST

    RTD's writing has no balls

    by spud mcspud

    He uses the "written for children" card to hide the fact that he can't even write semi-decent technobabble anymore - refer to my previous post that the next special will be the Doctor saying "Look! A big scary thingy!" - and he uses the format just to shoehorn in his own prejudices. It's nice to see the gay agenda didn't rear its ugly head this episode - nope, he had the anti-Christian agenda in this episode, with that ill-judged "I was at the first Easter! Well, what really happened was-" line. Childish, immature and just looking to get a rise out of people. No different to the ending to THE SECOND COMING - *spoilers* he has Lesley Sharp kill God, but bottles out of the follow through. In his ending, everyone just learns to get on without faith - a REALLY guty, fucked-up ending would have rudimentary religions springing up in the now-empty churches, where people now irrationally believe that God will return from death, and that Eccleston's Steve will rise again. But no - RTD bottles it, makes his anti-Christian statement, and fucks off, smug in his own prejudices.<P> Finally people are starting to see through his write-by-numbers schtick. The knee-jerk edginess of his attacks on other people's beliefs now look like the mean-spirited prejudices they are. His heavy-handed crowbarring in of the anti-Christian and gay agendas now look like the nasty, cheap shots that they are, not the edgy zeitgeisty innovative ideas they were hailed to be back in the day. RTD is just a bitter, belligerent idiot who pillories anyone who disagrees with him, and has managed to reduce arguably the greatest kids TV show the UK has ever produced to something the level of fucking LAZYTOWN. (In fact, Sportacus has better dialogue).<P> It'll be a great day when RTD finally leaves that series. He may have got it going again with a bang, but he's fucked it up to the point that now even Tennant - the best Doctor of them all - looks like a random bag of tics and cliched expressions, all due to the inane scripts and heavy-handed direction.<P> All hail the Grand Moff. RTD, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

  • April 13, 2009, 7:30 a.m. CST

    I don't really have a problem with his agenda

    by Ckuouka

    If he wants to push a positive view of gays and speak negatively of organized religion, then that's fine. There are people who do it and manage to make it well-written, at the same time. In fact, I'd venture to say that it is harder to write anti-gay, pro-religious stories well. My problem with him, though, and with this episode specifically, when something is written and directed poorly. This episode was childish, illogical, and otherwise, just fucking awful. I had so many problems with it, I can't even begin to list them. While I didn't think "The Next Doctor" was great, it was miles ahead of this crap.

  • April 13, 2009, 7:53 a.m. CST

    i caved and watched it

    by cool_britannia79

    fucking crap. and michelle ryan cannot act, at all. she's not fit enough to get away with it either. appalling.

  • April 13, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    Re RTD's agendas - As you say, "there are people who do it and manage to make it well-written at the same time" - THAT is the main problem I have with his writing. Do I find his anti-Christian (anti-religion) agenda distasteful? Hell yeah! Like any other atheist propagandist, he stops waaaay short of offending any religion that might actually fight back - interesting to see him totally fail to factor into his SECOND COMING script the effect that said Second Coming would have on any radical fundamentalist Muslims, of which there are more than a few in the Manchester area in which SECOND COMING is set - but then, easier to raise the blood pressure of a few Daily Mail-reading grannies that won't fight back than to tackle the REAL issue. Ditto his gay agenda - it IS possible to have pro-gay characters in drama that engage and move the audience; BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN is a spectacular piece, sensitive, well acted, and fully engaging in the sense that it beings the audience into understanding a gay relationship emotionally, not just physically - something RTD has not managed to the same degree. His gay references in WHO are in there purely to signpost that there are gay characters in that world. But as SF audiences are among the most open-minded audiences around, such prosetylising is patronising and pointless.<P> I'd agree with how hard it is to write an anti-gay story: you'd be asking someone to empathise with a bigot, though this did work in AMERICAN HISTORY X, so who knows? Writing a pro-fati hstory isn't difficult: life is definitely enriched and strengthened by faith (I feel more depressed and less sure of my beliefs and my place in life since becoming more agnostic than I used to be), and the only people who'd be offended by the idea of others having faith are those who are offended by the very idea of faith itself - people who are usually as dogmatic and unshakeable in their belief (yep, unbelief is a belief too, in my book) as the most rigid fundamentalist. Live and let live - in faith, in sexual orientation, and in everything, would be my philosophy.<P> My problem with RTD is the heavy-handed, patronising way he writes. He's clunky, illogical and seemingly thinks all kids have the mentality of a two year old, hence dumbing down from the Pertwee era of "reverse the polarity of the neutron flow" to the Tennant era "timey-wimey, wibbly-wobbly stuff". Pure dumb shit, written for pure dumb shits. To enjoy RTD's stuff is to enjoy being talked down to, to enjoy being patronised and belittled, to enjoy having RTD speak to you as if you are dumb as shit.<P> RTD can't be gone soon enough. Remember, this is the guy who wrote a book about his life as a writer, and called the chapter on fanboys "BASTARDS". Talk about biting the hand that feeds...

  • April 13, 2009, 8:46 a.m. CST

    Timey-wimey wibbly-wobbly

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    Wasn't it the Grand Moff who gave us the "timey-wimey wibbly-wobbly" stuff?<p>I think we need to keep in mind that when Moffat takes over next year we're still going to get the lighter episodes (or what some people refer to as "silly"). It's not going to be all dark every week.

  • April 13, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    spud mcspud

    by kwisatzhaderach

    RTD called the fans that criticised him 'ming-mongs'. His ego is so large it is unbelievable. He actually believes his work is beyond criticism. I'd much rather be a ming-mong than a squeetard.

  • April 13, 2009, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Loved the scene where the Doctor reassures everyone

    by SpyGuy

    Once again, David Tennant showed what a definitive Doctor he is by giving such a throwaway scene considerable gravitas. And apart from the bus driver that should have been wearing a red shirt from STAR TREK, he actually fulfilled his promise and got them all home without getting them killed. <p>Oh, and Michelle Ryan was smoking hot as Lady Christina de Souza. Wouldn't mind her returning as the Eleventh Doctor's companion in Series Five.</p>

  • April 13, 2009, 9:46 a.m. CST

    spud mcspud

    by offscauta

    "hence dumbing down from the Pertwee era of "reverse the polarity of the neutron flow" " Reverse the polarity of the neutron flow is, was and always will be meaningless bollocks. Pertwee used to say it because he couldn't be bothered learning any even remotely scientific exposition. Don't get me wrong, Planet of the Dead was shit, but the Pertwee era did plenty of dumbing down of its own, relying as it did on explosions, fast cars, martial arts and gadgets.

  • April 13, 2009, 9:58 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    I'll give you that - a semi-ninja Doctor isn't really my cup o'tea either - but I'll take pseudo-scientific gobbledook over Teletubbies-level made-for-two-year-olds gobbledegook any day of the week. Plus, I really hope Moffat throws in that line to give we lovers of technobabble something to squee about ;D

  • April 13, 2009, 10:03 a.m. CST


    by Amy Chasing

    and Venusian lullabies, don't forget them. It was almost The Doctor's answer to The Master's "you will obey me" line... naroo, naroo, narooo... <P> But even so, you gotta admit while Doctor Who has never really been about the sci-fi, the Pertwee era was about as serious as it ever got.

  • April 13, 2009, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Handsome 12th Doc

    by spud mcspud

    You're right about it being Moff who wrote the line - but you have to remember RTD vets every script, often changing entire subplots to accommodate his inanities (Moff didn't invent Captain Jack - RTD did, then got Moff to crowbar him into his EMPTY CHILD two-parter). And you're right - DR WHO is at heart a kids' show, and I think the Moff gets that - and all I'd like to see is more respectful and intelligent writing for the kids, with less patronising and more engaging with them. Kids aren't ALL dumb - and the ones who are, were probably the ones watching BRITAIN'S GOT TALENT (and actually gave it almost two million viewers MORE than POTD here in the UK). WHO SHOULD NOT DUMB DOWN. That's the extent of my expectations from Moffat.

  • April 13, 2009, 10:13 a.m. CST

    I liked it.

    by Nix_Cadavre

    Although I have to say they're going an odd path, establishing that he's been alone all this time. Of course, he could be traveling from Christmas to Easter instantly in the TARDIS, but that would be rather odd of him. <p> I do miss his galaxy-hopping, though. He seems to spend more time on Earth than ever before. You'd think that if he's sick of Earth people breaking his heart, he'd go hang around in another galaxy for a while. <p> Too bad this chick didn't stick around. I liked her a lot. She reminded me of Ace, in fact.

  • April 13, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    Damn straight. I give up expecting anything great from RTD any more. He's a great ideas man, but a lousy writer, and the more I watch THE SECOND COMING, the more I see it as the reactionary, inflammatory button-pushing piece of anti-religious propaganda it really is. The only skill involved in writing that shite is how well RTD camouflaged it as a semi-decent bit of drama, when really it was deisgned to upset Daily Mail reading, churchgoing old grannies. Fucking pathetic.

  • April 13, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Nix Cadavre

    by spud mcspud

    Are you a character from the live-action TV series? 'Cos you should be.<P> "Young Boba Fett discovers he's not the only bounty hunter on Ord Mantell. Introducing the latest scourge of the Jedi, the collector of more dead lightsabres than any other since Asajj Ventress - meet NIX CADAVRE!"<P> Make it so...

  • April 13, 2009, 10:22 a.m. CST

    I agree Spud

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    Who should not dumb down. I didn't mean to suggest that having lighter episodes is the same as dumbing down. I think it's possible to have intelligent "silly" stories. And I think that Moffat will have a firm grasp of this idea too.

  • April 13, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    I thyink they have changed the nature of the

    by emeraldboy

    companions. The permanent companion is gone. dr will have one per ep.

  • April 13, 2009, 11:43 a.m. CST


    by EyeofPolyphemus

    I think they are being heavy handed in emphasizing the loneliness of the doctor and how everyone eventually leaves him in order to make thereturn of the Time Lords have more emotional impact. I imagine the 11th Doctor will have a much less melancholic attitude and more than happy to have companions along for the ride.

  • April 13, 2009, 12:21 p.m. CST

    Was POTD written by a 10-year-old?

    by football

    It was certainly an Easter Egg stinker. Can't wait for Moff to take over and do it right. Even though the new Doctor has a face like a sack of over-used spanners, I'm sure he can't be as bad in an episode as everyone was in last night's shitfest. The magic flying bus was straight out of Harry Potter and Chitty, Chitty, Bang, Bang. Pathetic and a waste of the word "special".

  • April 13, 2009, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Amy Chasing

    by offscauta

    Never been a big fan of the Pertwee era. The Doctor working for and with the military just never feels right to me. But I see your point.

  • April 13, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    whereas i loved the pertwee years

    by cool_britannia79

    doctor who has never convincingly covered the military side of earth being under constant threat from aliens.

  • April 13, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    'Cept for the Nightbus incident-

    by ToMonicker

    Pretty darn enjoyable. Knew those fly dudes were going to get conveniently killed right away. Heh, heh. Those guys were the REAL redshirts of this outing. I gonna miss the hell out of David Tennant when he's gone methinks. But as I've seen Moffat's silly WHO, his comic relief spoofs... I'm not too scared. I found those quite fun.

  • Chitty bang bang, Chitty chitty bang bang. Chitty bang bang, Chitty chitty bang bang. Chitty bang bang, Chitty chitty bang bang. Oh you pretty Chitty bang bang, Chitty chitty bang bang, we love you. And our pretty Chitty Bang Bang, Chitty chitty bang bang loves us too. High, Low, Anywhere we go, on Chitty Chitty we depend Bang bang chitty chitty bang bang Our fine four fendered friend Bang bang chitty chitty bang bang Our fine four fendered friend Your Sleek as a thourough bred Your seats are a feather bed You turn everybody's head today We'll Glide on our motortrip With pride in our ownership The envy in all we surbay Oh Chitty, you Chitty, Pretty Chitty Bang Bang Chitty Chitty Bang Bang We love you And Chitty our Chitty, pretty Chitty Bang Bang Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Loves us to High Chitty, low Chitty, anywhere we go On Chitty Chitty we depend

  • April 13, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Her's the rest.............

    by axcel1

    Bang bang chitty chitty bang bang Our fine four fendered friend Bang bang chitty chitty bang bang Our fine four fendered friend Your Sleek as a thourough bred Your seats are a feather bed You turn everybody's head today We'll Glide on our motortrip With pride in our ownership The envy in all we surbay Oh Chitty, you Chitty, Pretty Chitty Bang Bang Chitty Chitty Bang Bang We love you And Chitty our Chitty, pretty Chitty Bang Bang Chitty Chitty Bang Bang Loves us to High Chitty, low Chitty, anywhere we go On Chitty Chitty we depend

  • April 13, 2009, 4:15 p.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    I swear, sometimes I have no clue what's going through your heid. What was all that about?<P> I hope everyone else enjoys your next message - I already know I will ;p

  • April 13, 2009, 4:23 p.m. CST

    spud mcspud, those are the lyrics to Chitty, Chitty, Bang, Bang

    by axcel1

    football said it reminded him of that, so, I thought it would help if we had the lyrics to it. In other news, Steve Jobs, Apple CEO, plans on selling a $500.00 Laptop, WOWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • April 13, 2009, 4:28 p.m. CST


    by axcel1

    Doctor Who Talkbacks are few and far between, so, I just want to enjoy it while I can and have fun with it. (Just wondering, would Dick Van Dyck singing that song while the bus was flying help anyone enjoy the special just a little bit?)

  • April 13, 2009, 4:29 p.m. CST

    I'm quessing.............................

    by axcel1


  • April 13, 2009, 4:32 p.m. CST

    And, spud mcspud....................

    by axcel1

    I'm glad you did.

  • April 13, 2009, 5:01 p.m. CST

    How long are talkbackers going to give the moff

    by emeraldboy

    untill they start carping and start demanding his replacement.

  • April 13, 2009, 5:02 p.m. CST

    watching now...

    by Howling_Fantods

    and it seems like a low-rent Langoliers.

  • April 13, 2009, 5:05 p.m. CST


    by Howling_Fantods alien just showed up. Dr. Who again.

  • April 13, 2009, 5:26 p.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    I'll give him six months. Any longer than that and I'll strain my whinge reflex :D

  • April 13, 2009, 5:27 p.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    I may be in the minority but I DO think Dick Van Dyke should have been the bus driver. Or the scientist. Or the next Doctor.<P> Diagnosis Murder RULES. Dick Van Dyke is STILL THE MAN!

  • April 13, 2009, 5:33 p.m. CST

    How long would I give Moff? 2 years.

    by V'Shael

    2 seasons, depending on how badly RTD implements a scorched earth policy on the show, fucking things up royally for his successor. <p> If the quality of the scripts isn't up to scratch after 2 years, I'd be calling for his replacement. But I generally don't think that'll happen. I think I've loved about 95% of everything Steven Moffat has ever written.

  • April 13, 2009, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Who will be the next companion?

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    I know the Doc said he doesn't want anyone with him right now, but that's just for these specials isn't it? While he's in a bit of a moody.<br>When he regenerates into that toddler I think he'll be ready for some help again.<p>The casting has got to be made soon because they start filming in the summer. I'd like to see someone older in the role. It'd be an interesting dynamic having someone who looks noticably older than the Doc, when really he would be 900 years older than her/him.<p>I'll be happy to give the Moff all the time he likes. On the one provision that he doesn't cast Lily Fupping Allen in it.

  • Chitty, Chitty, Bang, Bang, as the bus flew back to Earth?

  • April 13, 2009, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Oh, and axcel1....

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    Please tell me you had to google those lyrics, and you didn't know them off the top of your head.

  • April 13, 2009, 7:01 p.m. CST

    Yes, The Handsome 12th Doctor................

    by axcel1

    I googled and I don't think I ever saw the movie. But, like spud mcspud said, "Diagnosis Murder RULES. Dick Van Dyke is STILL THE MAN!"

  • April 13, 2009, 7:44 p.m. CST

    I just wish this was a little bit better.

    by gotilk

    It was fun. And seeing Michelle Ryan in any context besides something bionic is always a pleasure.

  • April 13, 2009, 7:57 p.m. CST

    But, Guysssssssssssssssssssss...............

    by axcel1

    This special had a flying bus!!!!!!!!! Bus, flying, with the Doctor behind the wheel!!!!!!!!!!!

  • April 13, 2009, 8:06 p.m. CST

    spud mcspud

    by axcel1

    I did get a chuckle from your reply.

  • April 14, 2009, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Does anybody realy like Dr Who?

    by darthxmas

    I mean Realy?

  • April 14, 2009, 2:02 a.m. CST

    Yes darthxmas

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    It's reasonably apparent that we do.<p>Perhaps not as much as we like Diagnosis Murder. But then nothing beats that show.<br>Oh man I love the sports themed episodes. Like when there's a murder of a basketball star. Or a race car driver. Because you know, you absolutely KNOW, that there's going to be a scene at the end where Dick Van Dyke shows he's a shit-hot basketball player. Or race car driver.<p>Dick Van Dyke for the next Who companion!

  • April 14, 2009, 2:50 a.m. CST

    If I could choose a companion

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    It would be Joanne Guest and I'd want wardrobe approval also

  • April 14, 2009, 6:41 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    Guest starring Angela Lansbury as The Rani. Just to piss off the tween demographic!<P> Megan Fox for Companion.

  • April 14, 2009, 6:49 a.m. CST

    So aparantly the Doctor after next

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    will be a lisping 6 year old?

  • April 14, 2009, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Fuck that was awful

    by Lost Jarv

    seriously, seriously awful.

  • April 14, 2009, 7:43 a.m. CST

    Melvin - Joanne Guest?

    by Youngdog

    Are you 50 or something? KEELEY HAZELL<P><P>oh yes!

  • April 14, 2009, 7:56 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    Seriously shit, wasn't it? It feels like no-one's trying any more. Worthless plotting, plot holes you could fly a bus through, pointless positive discriminatory casting (no problem having someone non-white in charge - but can we get someone who actually looks as if they have authority? Was Colin Salmon busy? What about Sophie "plays an cold bitch in EVERYTHING" Okenedo?), terrible SFX, rip-offs from everything between PITCH BLACK, HARRY POTTER, FLIGHT OF THE PHOENIX, THE FLY (1958), CHITTY CHITTY BANG BANG, LARA CROFT, ENTRAPMENT... was there ANYTHING original in there?<P> And then Lee Fucking Evans. I don't mind his stand-up, but he's one Godawful OTT actor.

  • April 14, 2009, 8:49 a.m. CST

    Respect for the Moffatt!

    by WT

    I'm not really a Dr Who fan (got to be honest). But Blink and The Empty Child scared me more than quite a lot of horror films I've seen. Oh, and I actually had a cup of tea with Matt Smith when he was at UEA. Nice chap, hope he does well :D

  • April 14, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    I still liked the flying bus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by axcel1

    Yes, I know it didn't make sense, but, David makes it work. Speaking of UK buses, why do you guys call bus passes, oyster cards? Just a crazy american Who fan wondering.

  • April 14, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Speaking of Matt Smith....................

    by axcel1

    Does anyone else think he looks like Jesse Spencer (the guy from "House") with a frankenstein forehead? I don't mean that as a negative comment.

  • April 14, 2009, 11:54 a.m. CST

    I also liked the flying bus

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    I stand by my original comment that that was ridiculous but still totally appropriate to this story.<p>Oyster cards? I don't know. I can tell you this is only a London thing. The rest of us, those who live outside of London (i.e. us normal people), we use bus passes.

  • April 14, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Russell t has hinted that Lee evans...

    by emeraldboy

    might be getting his own show. as a dr who spin off. If you all dont like dr who then dont watch it. watch premieval instead. please stop complaining.

  • April 14, 2009, 4:09 p.m. CST

    as everyone here has written off matt smith..

    by emeraldboy

    I dont think he is going to an easy ride. in fact the demands for his replacement will start on day one.

  • April 14, 2009, 4:19 p.m. CST

    I'm not writting him off...................

    by axcel1

    I'm willing to give him a chance, heck, 28 years ago, we, doctor Who fans, gave Peter Davison a chance and look how great he was, in my opinion, of course.

  • Steven says to him, "Matt, in this scene, you'll be driving a flying bus." 'Nuff said

  • April 14, 2009, 6 p.m. CST

    Matt Smith is a gifted actor

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    He was in some police thing not so long ago. I forget what it was called now. But he was brilliant in it.<br>I'm going to give him every chance.<p>It's a pity that some people won't take to him no matter how great he does. He is going to be the Peter Davison of this generation.

  • He could drive a flying bus, and, in fact we all will be cheering, "Go, Doc, Go, Go Doc, Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!! HE CAN DO IT!!!!!!!!

  • April 14, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    That's exactly what I'm saying

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    In fact, now you've said that I'm going to be bloody disappointed if there isn't a flying bus in it.<p>Or if it isn't going to appear in Who any more then at least give me the spin-off show "The Adventures of Lady Christina and her Magic Flying Bus"

  • April 14, 2009, 6:39 p.m. CST

    The Handsome 12th Doctor, I'm sorry, but..............

    by axcel1

    You have just gone a spin-off to far. I can take Torchwood, The Sarah Jane Adventures, I could even take a UNIT spin-off w/Lee Evans in it, but not that. He'll just have to fly something else.

  • April 14, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Ok, how about this.....

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    He flies a police box from the 1950's.<P>No, that's sillier than a bus isn't it.

  • April 14, 2009, 6:48 p.m. CST


    by axcel1

    I do hope the last 2 specials give us, the Doctor Who Fans all over the world, a great, really great send-off, good-bye, to, dare I say, THE DOCTOR WHO EVER!!! So say we all!!!

  • April 14, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Oh, sorry....................

    by axcel1

    I got serious for a moment, sorry, won't happen again. But, my favorite part of "Runaway Bride" was the TARDIS car chase!!!!!!!!

  • April 14, 2009, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Hold that thought..................

    by axcel1

    I'll be back in 50 minutes, about to watch, DHC, Desert Storm", talk amongs yourselfs

  • April 14, 2009, 7:14 p.m. CST


    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    David Tennant does indeed deserve a grand send-off. He has been a fantastic Doc.<p>Incidentally I caught a re-run of New Earth last night. Tennant's first full episode. And while he was great in it I don't think he was as great as in the last couple of seasons. It showed that an actor grows into a role such as this.<br>Which is even more reason to give Matt Smith ample chance next year.<p>I'm off to bed now. I'll check in here again when I'm bored at work tomorrow. Though I feel we could be getting close to the point to take a break from our Who. Until the next Who-related article that is. Which I guess will come when the next companion is cast.<br>As ever it's been a pleasure talking with you all. These talkbacks are always the best.<p>In case I don't happen to post again for whatever reason I'll lay my predictions for the next companion here. It'll be one of these 3 –<p>Emma Pierson<br>Hannah Murray<br>Barry Van Dyke

  • April 15, 2009, 5:06 a.m. CST

    Axcel1 - With you on that

    by spud mcspud

    As much as I loved the creature design of the Rachnoss (would've loved to have seen a planet full of those creepy little beasties!) my favourite part of RUNAWAY BRIDE was also the TARDIS taxi chase. Easily the most exhilarating thing we've seen in new WHO.

  • April 15, 2009, 5:45 a.m. CST

    WOW, spud mcspud, it's like that old saying...........

    by axcel1

    "Great minds think alike", ok, maybe my mind is not so great, but, I'm surprised we both thought that was the most exciting part of it.

  • April 15, 2009, 3:31 p.m. CST

    Oh well.................

    by axcel1

    I guess once the post disappears, the talkbackers disappear, too. Sooooooooooo, I guess, I will leave you all with what I always say, spud mcspud, The Handsome 12th Doctor, emeraldboy, Lost Jarv, V'Shael, and all you other crazy Doctor Who Fans, I hope you all enjoy the next Doctor Who Special, "The Waters of Mars", I already know I will!!!!

  • April 15, 2009, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Yep, until next time........

    by The Handsome 12th Doctor

    Whenever that is. Because nobody knows for sure yet when The Waters Of Mars is on. If I'm at home when it is on then I'll send Herc my usual guff on the night.<p>By the way, that thing of ending the post title with a lot of dots is really infectious!!