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Hey folks, Harry here... I've seen some people asking about the reaction after the film, well approximately 4 seconds after the end credits began - a standing ovation started in the Alamo Drafthouse on South Lamar - where the real, albeit not official, premiere of STAR TREK was held tonight. The Ovation lasted for 5-6 minutes - until the guests took the stage for a post film chat. After the film, the audience was a collective smile, some crying they were so happy. You have to understand, none of the attendees knew they were seeing this film tonight and the media that was there - were folks that just wanted to see WRATH OF KHAN and 10 minutes of New Trek. And here are the reactions so far....
Trek Movie.com
/FILM has a collection of thoughts on the film from around the web.
/Film also put this together from early Twitter reports!
The tough critic Rodney Perkins at Twitch.net thought this...
This Trek Virgin attended and thought this...
Empire Magazine launches in with this one!
In this talkback - if you spot other folks talking about the film - POSITIVE or NEGATIVE - provide a link, but only if they've seen it please.
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First!!
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Let's talk about Rick Moranis some more.
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This morning has been really, really fun with all this Trek premiere coverage and reading all the different takes and hearing about the big event, it really killed an hour of waking up time for me in bed. Thanks a lot, Harry. This is why I love this site. A great morning of cool news and reviews.
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It's a media blackout from now on.
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Your self importance is astounding, the director and cast decide its a great idea to have it in one of the worlds premiere cities and artistic monuments and you deride that because you feel left out, Argh.
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What the fuck are you talking about?
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and his trouser ferrets
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seriously is he?
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is officially freddy
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Marc Singer thoughts from around the web...
'Singer was awesome. A beast of an actor'
'The greatest actor of his generation. The greatest actor of ANY generation.'
'That lucky fuck got to ogle Tanya Roberts tits. They did twenty takes of her walking naked out of that pond in BEASTMASTER.' -
http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/969/969970p1.html
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Doesn't this describe most Trek fans?
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I had no doubt it would be fast paced, action packed and beautiful...but not ONE reviewer has mentioned the script. Not one hyperbolic, Red Bull fueled, freshly Star Fucked reporter has said a word as to whether those nitwits stuck in fart,piss,and masturbation jokes. Nobody has said squat about how these characters interact with their world, other than they are reverential while feeling "fresh". PLEASE tell me that Hack ORCI pulled a rabbit out of his base pandering ass and wrote with some heart and respect...tell me he has risen above everything he has shat on us before...tell me this is a GOOD script and not another Orci/Kurtzman punch job.
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an amazing piece of cinematic science fiction
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I live in Rio, and a popular site has posted some nice photos from teh shoot: http://ego.globo.com/Gente/Noticias/0,,MUL1074818-9798,00-STALLONE+DEIXA+ABDOME+E+CUECA+A+MOSTRA+NO+SET+DE+OS+MERCENARIOS.html
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I'm having a go at Knowles and his obvious sour puss act for not getting an invite to the Premiere in Sydney.
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The story and the script are fine. The dialogue captures the best of the Star Trek banter and precious few missteps. Its the best and most polished feeling of anything these writers have been involved in. It definitely comes across that they love and respect not only the Star Trek universe, but the original characters especially.
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J.J. Abrams can reboot Ice Castles.
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I haven't seen it yet, and I'm already crying. Somebody spin up Shatner's "get a life" rant.
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but can someone tell me how Nero fucking up the timeline changes how the Enterprise was built? I mean it was built in space in the old timeline and is built on Earth in this one. Why would that be changed?
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Apr 07, 2009 10:09:25 AM CDT
Tell the Early Viewers to Stick to Stating Their Opinion of the
by jaysmack
The Twitter-retards who want to say, "The Trek fans shouldn't complain" or "Trek fans don't need to worry," oughta stop sucking their mother's hairy balls for a few seconds and realise nobody gives a shit what they think!
Tell us about the movie, and spare us your contempt for people who followed Trek for all these years.
If we wanted the opinion of braindead inbred neth-heads who don't have the sense God gave a retarded goat we would have asked Michael Bay to give us his two cents.
You shitstains hating on Trek fans should ask yourselves, would there even be this "awesome" movie were it not for the Trek fans you hate so much?
I know asking you Twitter-turds to think before you speak is kinda like asking a drug addict to quit crack Cold Turkey but for the sake of sanity on the "internets" you now have to shut the fuck up!
Then PLEASE drop dead. But not before you smother your parents for the crime of having brought your retarded asses into this world.
Nobody asked your opinion of Trek fans. In fact nobody asked your opinion of the movie, except Paramount. Save your bitching and moaning for them. Capice fucktards? -
I don't actually give a fuck.
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http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=134061
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maybe the kelvin being shot to shit made starfleet change design direction or something.
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This is worse than ESPN and Brett Favre.
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Yeah it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to build it on Earth, aside from a really cool digi set piece with it in a canyon (from the trailer)
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I get it- you're reading into what Harry says so you have an excuse to dole out some (retarded, stale, and almost adorably pathetic) America-bashing. How original!
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...but it sure smells good!
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haha, imagine if two big summer blockbusters leaked online early
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Abrahams is a bit of hero at keeping shit locked down til release.
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Great comments everyone, I love getting excited for a movie, even if I do get let down on occasion. Next, The people from other countries who constantly have to rip on Americans for whatever reason is really annoying. Every time a message board with a majority of Amercian postings is up, some people love the chance to rip on us. We really dont give much of a shit what the rest of the world thinks about us anymore, we all need somebody to hate. Enough of the jealousy already.
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I'm actually kind of disappointed - what I understand is that this is an alternate time line that springs out of things getting all f'ed up - which means the original time line is just fine, simply unfolding in a different direction. That sort of feels ball-less to me; don't get me wrong - I'm a fan, but I thought it would take some massive cojones to say, "Fuck it...let's destroy the timeline and rework it...everything you knew is GONE." I wouldn't have minded that in the slightest. Still, all of these reviews sound heartening - and with nothing else worth a shit coming out this year, this is now my only looked-forward-to release of the year.
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How is the script? Do the characters/actors mesh well together? For me, it was the fantastic chemistry and relationships between the characters that made trek what it is. With great characters comes great stories.
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Yes, we know who is the new Freddy. That was on AICN last weekend. IT'S so old, that it isn't even on the front page anymore.
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I get the sense from the reviews that the majority of geek reviewers were so bowled over by the opportunity to see this with the filmmakers in attendance that no one gave a shit about the story. They were wowed by the effects and action and were just generally swept up in it all.
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I hear the CGI Shatner dies at the end.
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While it's cool to see Nimoy as Spock again, if they just ignored the original version and went their own way, I think they would have benefited from the complete break.
While they get a "fresh timeline" with this movie, it feels secondary or supplemental to the original series. But we're fanboys, the only people in the world that could care about this thing. TREK is gonna be a hit regardless of our nuanced griping. -
roddenberys corpse must be spinning in tis grave right now
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To say anything about roddenbery's (SP) corpse? Gene Roddenberry's son saw the movie and said his dad would have loved it.
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It's a re-imagining of an old idea and Hollywood has finally eaten it's own balls.
And I'm loving the Twitter hate on here by Star Trek fans. How utterly Ironic. -
when i finish laughing with his statement,i ll start laughing with rodenberys son statement.
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He's just a bunch of ashes, drifting in space. Or something.
Maybe his urn is spinning in space. -
http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/arthouse/2009/04/star-trek-that-77-stuff.php
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Firefox sucks at times. Copy/Paste didn't work so well for my link.
Here it is in its correct form:
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Maybe it's the TalkBack form that sucks.
Just go to http://www.arthousecowboy.com
Then, you just use your common sense and you'll find the Star Trek article. It's quite good. -
I am seeing that also from the reviews. I guess that is what the most important thing is about this movie. Special effects and action scenes.
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really, because we had that on AICN a few days ago.
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no, last week it had him in final talks.
he has only been CONFIRMED today. -
maybe a little update may be in order.
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40653
where does it say he is confirmed fatty? -
Seems Platinum Dunes Is Now Finalizing Its New Freddy Krueger!!
Merrick here...
THIS ARTICLE over at Bloody Disgusting expands upon/solidifies early indications posted by Latino Review in February; Bloody Disgusting says Jackie Earle Haley is now in final talks to play Freddy Krueger in Platinum Dunes' NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET remake.
BD says an official announcement may come as early as next week.
Haley, of course, recently played Walter Kovacs/Rorschach in WATCHMEN. Growing up, he was always my favorite character in Peter Yates' BREAKING AWAY. For a remake/reinvention that really doesn't need to happen, and once one looks beyond that "Freddy isn't Robert Englund!" prejudice...this isn't altogether unreasonable casting at all.
A friend recently loaned me THIS collection of the original films. Now I'm trying to figure out if I wanna sit down and watch 'em all again...or keep my head clear for whatever Platinum Dunes is gonna bring us. -
the above is parody of a lemming who cannot think for themselves and regurgitates endlessly the opinions of other critics to formulate their own
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There's plenty to discuss with regard to the content of Harry's reviews. I'm not overweight, by the way.
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he is quick enough to jump to the defence of his website but when he is proven wrong he doesnt seem to quick at coming forward to eat some humble pie. probably the only pie he doesnt eat.
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bfi imax at waterloo, now booking get them while you can!
http://tinyurl.com/cexr6e
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I don't like Harry either but I don't see the point of fat jokes. He annoys me because he is a piss-poor reviewer, he has questionable ethics, and he unabashedly supported Bale on his freakout rant. He's a douche for sure but making fun of him because he's fat is just too easy.
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that if st was to be on tv today, in the original rodenberry form, it would be cancelled during its first season damn, we have become a jaded lot
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It's sounding really good!!
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http://tinyurl.com/djmogb
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i dont dislike harry, infact ive met him and he was a very nice person. its just the infallibility he sees in his website and staff that pisses me off.
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bacci, I'd like to try and sum up what we've learned if I may:
That Aussies are kinda bummed that their premiere has been hijacked by Yanks.
That fat jokes against Harry are futile and too easy.
That Gene Roddenberry probably IS spinning in his interstellar grave.
And most importantly that Tanya Roberts tits in BEASTMASTER are well worth a wank.
I think we're all a little wiser for having read this talkback. -
...good call on the ST virgins!
Well played. -
Your news isn't exciting enough to warrant an update. Everybody's already discussed it. Go find something else to do.
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...and for the record, Harry IS fat! Fact. How hard is it to watch movies AND do some fucking situps? Pushups? Ride a fucking treadmill? I watch a butt-load of movies, play a butt-load of video games, and spend a butt-load of time on the computer, but I don't need to buy 2 tickets when I take a plane trip. christophermoltosante proved his point quite well. Harry, however sounded pompous, condescending, and arrogant! I, for one, did NOT know that Haley was confirmed, so thank you, christophermoltosante. You have done more than AICN today to inform me!
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I don't care if its Star Trek or Star Wars, but we finally have some real sci-fi (starship and stuff) at the movies. Hope it will be success and there will be more big budget sci-fis in the future. Man, I miss them. If Lucas does not want more Star Wars movies let it be Trek that provides us a quality movie every 2 years.
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anybody heard about it?
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And suddenly Unknown Canadian rips off his mask to reveal.... christophermoltosante.
Da Da Daaaaa! Stay tuned for the next exciting episode of 'be cruel to the fat guy'. -
Apr 07, 2009 2:26:30 PM CDT
This From NUKE THE FRIDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by fam8sion
HARRY HAS SEEN T4 AND HIS DOUBST WERE...TERMINATED
T4 Review
by Harry Knowles
First, you must understand something. Growing up, I dreamed of robots. I even got to wear the screen used Robbie the Robot costume to my 9th Birthday Party. See, my birthday parties, were like no other. Kids would come from miles around to watch old 8mm homemade films that my parents bought from a private collector. See my Parent owned a comic store and i had literally just about every comic ever printed. As I type this, I am staring at Yang #1. No, you won't find Yang battling Dr. Doom or Lex Luthor, nor any other baddie lurking amidst the pages of Marvel or DC books, Yang and all of his Kung-Fu glory could only be found in Charlton Comics. Charlton, now there was a comic company. Not Charlston, though I love Charlston Chew, sure they don't have peanuts or caramel like snickers and perhaps invokes imagery of 1920's dancing, but I didn't dance much as a kid. Sure I got a piggy back from Kirk Alyn, but not even flying around on Superman's back could prepare me for the day I met LEATHERFACE! Yes, Gunnar Hansen himself came to my house for BBQ. You see, I'm the biggest Star Trek Fan there is, so when I first met Yeoman Rand, I asked her if she like liked King Kong. Nothing is nearer my heart than the magic of that 1933 gem. Times were a changing. Times Are changing. Yoko likes Bob Dylan, See I never expected to land a hot asian, but when I saw how Ronald D. Moore reinvented Boomer, I though "I gotta have one!" - though a part of me wondered if I was betraying that little boy who would sneak into the living room in his pajamas, turn on the TV and dream of getting into a Viper and hear Lorne Green shout those magic words...but that brings me to my point...
Terminator 4 made me cum so hard, the velocity of my orgasm shot the jizz clear through the thinly weaved lap of my khakis and ended up in my eye. -
...just sayin' it like it is. Jewel has enough money to fix her fucking teeth, and Harry, I assume, has enough money to hire a dietician and a personal trainer. Like Nike, they should Just Do It!
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Apr 07, 2009 2:44:30 PM CDT
fam8sion THAT REVIEW IS AMAZING
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
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well when any of the actors on Hatchet took a shit Harry reported it, didnt stop that from being the biggest piece of crap horror film since garbage day.
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With everyone so busy hooking up it is a good thing the "Baddie" isn't all that bad?Also..are you saying there is alot of the typical "Orci/Kurtzman" humor in this? Spock doesn't piss on Uhura does he?
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I'm ready for this sucker.
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of all the things in the world to cry about. sad fucking state of affairs. seriously.
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....I've posted my review in the Drafthouse screening Talkback. Contrary to published opinion, not EVERYONE thinks this thing is great, but it seems that only the gushing ones get put up.
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getting the most attention says a lot about the negativity that was surrounding the film while it was in production. I think everyone's just surprised. Also kissing J.J. rump.
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Yahoo is reporting actor Kal Penn has joined Obama's White House team as a "an associate director in the Office of Public Liaison. His role will be to connect Obama with the Asian-American and Pacific Islander communities, as well as arts groups."
Toke up, yo. -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZddhJTYOAWw
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That's brilliant. Bravo, sir.
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Cant wait til the sequel comes out with another whatever's trendy that week cast. My only hope is that the geeks download it within the first week and cripple its box office.
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Give us the flashback to the Black Rock dude... don't finish up season 6 without it dude.. I'm talking the high seas, swashbuckling, splashing waves, the starboard bow.. all of it dude. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. You and Cuse owe us from the Libby backpeddle you did. Comeon now.
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I QUOTE: Fox News columnist Roger Friedman is out after posting a review of a leaked full-length work print of " X-Men Origins: Wolverine ." Fox News said Monday that the company's representatives and Friedman "mutually agreed to part ways immediately." Friedman had been an entertainment writer who has contributed to FoxNews.com for 10 years. He wrote in his Fox 411 column Thursday that downloading the 20th Century Fox superhero prequel was "so much easier than going out in the rain" and that the movie "exceeds expectations at every turn." The early review of the film, which 20th Century Fox described as a "stolen, incomplete and early version," was later removed from the Web site Friday. Fox News and 20th Century Fox are both units of Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. The movie, which focuses on the beginnings of Hugh Jackman 's clawed Marvel superhero Wolverine, is not scheduled for release until May 1, but the leaked version began appearing online last week. 20th Century Fox promised that the source of the film would be prosecuted and said the FBI and Motion Picture Association of America are investigating the leak.
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Does Trek anally rape my great-grandfather's corpse while shoving pussyjuice-covered shitballs up my cockhole thereby causing me to cum diarrhea into my own open and willing mouth?
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This is what I've come away with over last night. Even with a room full of Wrath of Khan freaks, who didn't even get to see their beloved movie, saying they enjoyed this movie more than any Trek film since TWOK, there is still a small group skipping over all the praise, just looking to find flaws. And you're going to find flaws. Life=flaws. film is just another human way of getting perfection as close as possible.
We all make our own judgments in the end. It's not like you're doing a public service, it's just how human beings experience anything.
Let the nit-pickers pick those nits. All is does is ruin their own visceral experience because they're watching a big screen film through a Microscope. -
I mean I like TNG and some of the movies and I respect that the old show is what spawned it all but god damn you guys getting all pissed off over a movie you haven't seen yet is sad. So it's not the original actors. Who gives a fuck? It's bad enough they had to have OG Spock in this and use time travel (again) to spin off the timeline just so you fucking dorks wouldn't completely freak out, go upstairs and kill your mother.
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I love how everyone treats Harry with such reverence. He's just like us, no need for fawning, people.
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Watching all the naysaysers eat crow now! From the sound of the reviews negative comments ( especially from those who haven't seen it ) will sound hollow. Can't wait for this film!
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Me and Orci have always been tight.
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First of all, he's dead, so there. Second of all, since the original series every aspect of what has made Trek enduringly great has been from folks like DC Fontana who worked on and developed the fucking show beyond the stiff-assed core concepts that Roddenberry started with. Thirdly, the Great Sponge of the Galaxy would be gleefully happy with anything that garnered him attention and made him a buck, his two most overriding motivations. I'm an original series fanatic but the constant Roddenberry cannonisation sickens me when so many other people are far more responsible for what makes Trek great. Good to see so much positive comment on the new take though, I look forward to it, fuck the haters.
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Plus some clips http://digg.com/d1nrMA
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"For anyone who has endured the longueurs of both the Star Wars prequels and Matrix sequels, the distinct lack of politicking and speechifying will doubtless come as a blessed relief, but in a time when the United States is engaged in two wars, the failure to even acknowledge the issues arising from space imperialism and the Prime Directive is to flinch from battle. Harsher critics may even deem it a dereliction of duty."
The reviewer is an ass. -
Whatever fucking douchebag wrote that should be horsewhipped. What a complete asshole.
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They've always been shitty.
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i hate when the internet yells at me
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Oh shat, I mean, Shitner!!! I mean oh shit, I mean Shatner!!!
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"an associate director in the Office of Public Liaison. His role will be to connect Obama with the Asian-American and Pacific Islander communities, as well as arts groups."
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See B&B you assholes! Trek can fuckin work you idiot dick sucking tools.Please someone take out a court injunction so that Trek has a restraining order against BERMAN AND BRAGA. Fuckin good one JJ!!~
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Or does he just go back to his own timeline?
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and I don't really understand it. You're talking about science fiction movies - when I was a kid, adults called them kid's movies. I love the ardor, but what is with all of the vulgarity and name calling; really sad and lame - especially where Harry (and script girl are concerned). Just lay off the personal crap and stay on topic - it strengthens your position.
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Why is Empire's review above so bad? Since the BSG reboot, the bar has been set for meaningful and time-relevant topics being inter-mingled into sci-fi plots. And most have embraced this trend, showing that the public can consume intelligent pulp.
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are we, uh...are we still doin' that?
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interesting
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Nero going back in time couldn't screw up the timeline of the Enterprise being built. That is why it was being built in SAN FRANCISCO - Just like it said on the plaque on the wall in the series from the 1960's. The Enterprise from TOS WAS NOT built in space. It was built in San Francisco. San Francisco is on Earth. Really. Get a map. The 49'ers play there ON EARTH. Later versions were built in space as the writers became more educated, but the original Enterprise was built on Earth and no amount of whining "NANANANANANANA!" with hands over your ears will change that. There is a piece of metal that is television history that is far more canon than wishful thinking.
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But the "San Francisco Ship Yards" of which you speak is, within TOS timelines, an orbital yard. It is called the San Francisco Ship Yards because...1. It is in geostationary orbit over the SF area; and 2. Starfleet headquarters, and the offices for this shipyard are located in San Francisco. Parts of this shipyards "dry docks" are seen in Star Trek: The Motion Picture...when the newly refurbished Enterprise is launched And if you STILL don't buy it..i suggest you ask the nerds over at Memory Alpha...those rabid dorks will set you straight...or geek rape you for asking.
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I will not read any sort of Twitter. I can't believe there was a review made out of Twitters. Embarrassing...
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Can I download the full movie or just the working print?
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Not to be too picky, but it's impossible to have a geostationary orbit above San Francisco. It would have to dip as far below the equator as SF is above the equator.
The Enterprise can't take off from Earth, anyway... so I'm fine with the idea it was built on Earth, freighted up to orbit, with final assembly done in space. -
supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell and conspiracy mentioned it too.
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that not making it for the fans kills your audience. It's still a Trek movie, and Trek will always be an "uncool" franchise. I don't see huge numbers for this just because I don't see many highschool jocks saying "Two for Star Trek"
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Four lousy stars? That's all you can spare for a movie that made people cry with joy?
They cried with joy, Empire...they did. They sat there, all through the fucking credits, holding it in, then suddenly the lights came up, and it was just too much for the latent cornball asshat...I mean, "kid"...in us all. They broke down in tears, man. Blubbered like a little bitches with a skinned knee.
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Memory Alpha can try and try all they want. It doesn't change the fact that TOS was written by a bunch of Shakespeare fans and created by a writer, not a physicist (much like the folks at memory alpha since they do not understand why geostationary orbit over San Fran doesn't work - they're just trying to sound smarter than they are). When Roddenberry WROTE it in 1964, San Francisco was on Earth. No where in any episode or movie did they say that the original Constitution Class was built in orbit. As far as it goes, they never specifically state that the Enterprise cannot take off from Earth, though it sure doesn't look atmospheric capable I grant.
So the folks that want to argue are Ret-conning and then griping when Abrams Ret-cons back to they wayt it originally was. -
that a one off buffy movie maybe in the works. tentative story and it is very very very early days. The apparant scenario is that buffy returns to her vampire/monster ass kicking ways as vengeful mom. buffy as a vengfull mom???? we all know that SMG cant act outisde her buffy character. and her post buffy career is in the toilet. A new buffy movie is really the last throw of the dice.
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for a film called eden Lake. a lot of people who saw that film didnt like it. and accused empire of reviewing the movie on the basis of it being a british film and there worthy of getting 4 or 5 stars on that spurious notion alone.
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is that they are obama fans and were shocked that the movie was not political in any way. Roddenberry for saw american dominance in outer space. americans were pioneers. the villains were The Russians(klingons)and Romulans(Chineses). remember Star trek was written at a time when america were figthing the communists. The enterprise is very much the model of the UN. it is a ship where all races are included and the prime directive is really UN Charter for human rights. The enterprise is tasked with enforcing that by entirely peaceful means and like the UN the enterprise cannot get envolved in wars of any kind. But of course the romulans dodnt believe in the prime directive and never have. The enterprise like the us army has its guns ready just in case. The prime directive is alway there but the enterpise doesent always abide by it.
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Jackman is said to be brokenhearted and described the leaking and downloading as a crime.
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Starring Vin Diesel as a young Johnathan Frakes. Paul Walker cameo's as newly built Data, who it turns out riker built, in an alt timeline. Directed by Johnathan Frakes, of course.
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Apr 08, 2009 1:51:42 PM CDT
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They're unreliable and result in extreme hyperbole.
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...about the run-up to Trek is that they're playing Nemesis all the @#$%! time on TV.
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don't ya think they could GEO using station keeping given the fact they have Gravity generation capability and limitless fuel/power?For that matter given that they do have gravity generation..they COULD build them on planet...but not only would that fly in the face of everything created/written/imagined since the series began...but it'd also just be lame as fuck.
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people that pigeon hole star trek.
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...no I changed my mind...it blows donkey balls....there I said it!
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