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Massawyrm feels the need to invent new levels of hyperbole when gushing over STAR TREK in a spoiler free manner!
Hola all. Massawyrm here.
Ho. Ly. Shit. No one was ready for what just happened to us. No one. While some may have guessed and many of us sure had hoped, Paramount’s bait and switch of STAR TREK for WRATH OF KHAN was a stunner. I mean, that was a bold fucking move. You don’t replace WRATH OF KHAN. You just don’t. Not unless the movie you’re replacing it with is pretty god damned strong. And guess what? It is. Holy Christ Crispies in a bucket of milk, was this movie fucking awesome. What’s that thing called…you know, the stuff that’s like awesome sauce only better? Oh yeah, Win. That’s it. Win. STAR TREK is made of that. From beginning to end.
I’ve got to admit, I wasn’t entirely enthused about the reboot. Not that I had a real problem with it, but the Paramount of the past has had a piss-poor history with the franchise. And while I like Abrams a lot, the idea of a “younger, hipper” cast was something of a turn off. The first-adventures-of is usually the kiss of death for a franchise – not a way to truly resurrect it. But here it is, back from the grave of some terrible movies preceded by a couple lifeless and mediocre ones. And the way they bring it back is a stroke of genius.
If you haven’t been spoiled yet, then congrats. I won’t break your streak. All I will say is that the film manages to reboot everything while entirely remaining within the continuity of the original series – and by doing so, actually allows them to move freely within the confines of their new “universe.” The explanation makes more sense than it ever feels like a cop-out, and it caused a number of us old school fans to re-examine the original series through this new perspective. A truly clever concept that, unlike many have postulated, doesn’t actually reference CITY ON THE EDGE OF FOREVER at all.
Now before I go any further, I need to make a public, formal apology to Karl Urban. More than any other aspect of this movie, I trash talked him getting the role of Leonard “Bones” McCoy. A lot. And I’ve been pretty harsh to him in the past. After PATHFINDER and DOOM, I’m pretty sure I threw around the phrase “This Generation’s Marc Singer” more than a few times. And I was wrong. Very wrong. Abrams saw potential in him and got a performance that was so close to the original series that at times he almost out-DeForest-Kelley’s DeForest Kelley. He’s brilliant - absolutely wonderful as the gruff country doctor turned interstellar surgeon.
And he’s not alone. There are so many pitch perfect performances in this that embody the soul of the characters and TREK itself that it is astounding. Quinto IS Spock. He just is. Simon Pegg manages to capture all the fun of Scotty and distills it in his own, hilarious way. And Chris Pine just captures all the swagger, ego and machismo of James T. Kirk. Not the older, aging, soulful Kirk. The 1960’s tight shirt Kirk who never hesitated and was always a step ahead of everyone else. He never apes Shatner. He just personifies everything that was great about that hard living, hard loving, tough as nails captain.
And above all, that’s what sells this film. The painstaking love the film has for the series and its characters. While it can be viewed and enjoyed by the uninitiated in the ways of classic trek, the film borrows famous lines of dialog, hints about encounters and vintage jokes from all over the place to fully place this in the STAR TREK universe. Fans will detect very definite notes of WRATH OF KHAN and YOYAGE HOME, without it ever deliberately ripping off either. Already I’m noticing a lot of folks referencing KHAN as the inspiration as there is a revenge plot layered within it. Yet this never attempts to be truly like KHAN. It wants to be something else. KHAN was about the final days of the starship enterprise (despite its subsequent 4 adventures) – it was about coming to grips with death. This is about coming to grips with life – about seizing your destiny and living up to your potential. It is very much about the crew we all know and love learning to believe in themselves for the first time with the confidence that would get them through another 80-some odd adventures.
The film is tight, explosive and fun, a stark contrast to the previous series. Put together with modern sensibilities, the film doesn’t leave a lot of breathing room for characters to stand around laying out exposition. The pace is fast and frenetic, with the crew always playing catch up to what is going on around them. The action is far crazier than you’ve ever seen in a TREK film or episode, replete with car chases, sky diving, truly evasive maneuvers, starship battles that are a hell of a lot more than two ships staring one another down and pressing buttons, rough and tumble fistfights and shoot outs – all the while maintaining that classic TREK feel, even when doing something you’ve never seen in TREK. Everything just feels right. Organic. Authentic. That’s the word. Authentic. This never feels like a copy. It’s the real deal.
And there’s a good chance it is going to blow your fucking doors off. I cannot express how happy I am with this film. Every moment worked for me – it felt like there wasn’t so much as a hair out of place. I LOVED it. My non Trek-loving wife LOVED it. And the energy in the room was incredible. When I walked out, I was saying it was as good as WRATH OF KHAN. Now that I’ve had some time to settle and reflect, I’m not going to quite make that claim. It’s not as great as KHAN. But it is a short hairs breath away from being that good. It is certainly better than any other TREK movie to date that doesn’t have the word WRATH in the title. Solid, fun and a pure joy to watch, this is the summer blockbuster to beat. A few more films like this and we’ll have a summer like last year.
Until next time friends, smoke ‘em if ya got ‘em.
Massawyrm
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Just sayin'.
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it's better than Star Trek The Motion Picture, Star Trek IV The Voyage Home and Star Trek VI The Undiscovered Country?
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Like, Twilight good?
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Yup, that's me going to hate it then. Great.
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I should have just come to Austin. Dammit. Double-dog dammit.
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I want to remain as virgin as pure white snow. Shit, I feel dirty for just having seen the trailers. If it's as good as you say, and as awe inspiring as the teaser trailer...consider my seatbelt fastened!
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Ahahahaha. Just kidding. Thanks for the spoiler-free review. I'm happy to hear this is turning out to be good, now I just have to keep the hype from setting my expectations too high.
I'm going to show my 'never seen a Trek' film friend Wrath next weekend to get ready. -
You're still a dork, but you're alright with me.
Can't wait for this. -
Ah, Trekkies, Trekkers, virgins ... whatever moniker y'all go by now. Enjoy this time of AICN's reviewers gushing all over your film while shrugging off the flaws that will permeate Talkbacks and message boards in about a month or so. Seen it before with flicks like "Revenge of the Sith" and "Cloverfield" and "Transformers" and the "Hulks." Molehills will become mountains very soon. And the film will end up sullied and nitpicked into cynical mediocrity by early July. Too bad. Sounds like a fun ride.
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However, there's a full month for the backlash to gain momentum.
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'This generation's Marc Singer' perhaps the ultimate compliment an actor could recieve.
As for STAR TREK Massa uses two hair analogies in the final paragraph alone so what he's subliminally saying is 'dont get hung up on the past, just let your hair down and enjoy it'. Clever, very clever. -
Great. Now that image is going to haunt me the rest of the day. Thanks a heap, Massa.
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'It is certainly better than any other TREK movie to date that doesnt have the word WRATH in the title'
Um... could I just pop my hand up at the back of the room and quietly mumble that my favourite one was FIRST CONTACT. Picard and pals versus zombies.
Anyone with me? ..nope? Okay, i'll shut up now. -
...thats what we'll all find out for ourselves and will settle as the real reality after these geeks have finished 'spoodging' on themselves..
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events of late have left me somewhat suspicious of this and the ither glowing reviews. AICN loves JJ, gives him glowing reviews of Star Trek - hmmmmm. We'll see. All I can say is I hope Massa and the rest are right.
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I have written proof of my distaste for TPM and Twilight.
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just asking....
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Apr 07, 2009 7:01:48 AM CDT
Are those 2 ferrets in your pocket, or are you just happy to see
by yeahbigjimmy
I loved Marc Singer
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you got me to see Beastmaster 2....in theaters!!! oh the power you once wielded over my fragile little mind.
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at the smoking area at DragonCon. Told him he was great in the movie about the blind guy and V, kidded him about the nude scene with Tanya Roberts in Beastmaster, he was smoking a cigarette with the geeks
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Tanya Roberts coming out of the pond.. oh yeah.
'Just one more take Tanya - didn't quite get it that time!' -
This is great to hear.
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Whoa, I glossed over Massy's Marc Singer crack. That aggression will not stand! Don't you never bag on Marc Tiberius Fucking Singer! The tight-jeaned God who played Mike Donovan AND Beastmaster was an inspiration to every friggin' Gen Xer who parted his hair in the middle in the early '80s. Singer picks guys like Chris Pine and Karl Urban out of his stool. Bow before the greatness that was and is Marc With a C Friggin' Singer! Oh, Marc Singer ... you bow before no one.
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Greatest news cameraman. Ever.
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If I am not a big Star Trek fan - not that I hate it, but it never did much for me - but would like to see something in the way of a big Blockbuster this summer, should I go to this new Star Trek melarkey?Is it normal person good, like with explosions and fisticuffs and that, or just a bunch of blokes standing around talking about time paradoxes and whatnot?
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Due in part to the fact I'm not a Trekkie, and don't care about canon. I do know that Wrath of Khan was fun, and that aside from a few comic moments in Voyage Home, I have either not watched (trailer told me it sucked) or was bored by every other Trek movie. In other words, this one won't have to be too spectacular to be the best, or second best, Trek movie. And MI:3 was a great action movie, so this one will have my ticket money.
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Apr 07, 2009 8:11:58 AM CDT
Massawyrm, save that shit for a AICN tabletop talkback!
by leafar the lost
I am going to see the Star Trek movie despite Massawyrm's positive review. Normally, if he really likes a movie, then I know it will suck. I was planning on seeing Vin Diesel's "Fast & Furious", but after Massawyrm's positive review of it I passed on it. After reading some other more insightful reviews, I am glad I did................................................................. Roger Ebert's review of F & F was very good, and I highly suggest that Massawyrm read his work in order to learn how to write a "readable" review of a movie.
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I am going to see the Star Trek movie despite Massawyrm's positive review. Normally, if he really likes a movie, then I know it will suck. I was planning on seeing Vin Diesel's "Fast & Furious", but after Massawyrm's positive review of it I passed on it. After reading some other more insightful reviews, I am glad I did.......................................................................Roger Ebert's review of F & F was very good, and I highly suggest that Massawyrm read his work in order to learn how to write a "readable" review of a movie.
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Apr 07, 2009 8:17:07 AM CDT
Maybe there's hope for Transformers 2?
by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights
Same writers, right?
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Is itself a hyperbole, and one that probably cements my desire to be nowhere near the theater when this opens.
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The Anti-Harry feeling going on in this site is really annoying and stupid to me. No one calls Mass a plant or a hack. You're such little girls.
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. . .that JJ was going to a do a great job. Even though many of you trashed him. MI3 was great, and I was excited to hear him doing a re-boot of Star Trek, and for what I read, it seems that he kicked all kinds of ass!
Again, Massawyrm is my favorite online reviewer, and he even admitted he was wrong in the review. Learn from him kiddies.
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But you're entitled to your terrible perspective. KHAN wasn't about death, it was about LIFE! It was about the same shit you say STAR TREK is about. And your hyperbole about Karl Urban out DeForresting the original is downright offensive. Take it back, sparky.
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SUCKS.
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a guy who doesn't jizz all over Khan. I love TNG and DS9 is one of my all time favourites, but I never cared about TOS and the motion pictures of that crew.
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you wet yourself over that pile of derivative bimbo moronic shit Cloverfield too..
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It is generally believed by most that Khan is the gold standard of Trek movies, I don't know what your favorite Trek movie is, but don't put down people who "jizz" all over Khan, it is the BEST of the Trek movies, and were it not for TOS and their movies you would have never had the crappy dribble that was TNG and the only a little bit better DS9. You don't have to like them, but you do have to respect them. Oh and btw, as far as movies, Generations sucked, First Contact was very good, Insurrection sucked and Nemesis sucked. that's 1 for 4 for TNG crew. With the exception of ST V, the first 6 Trek movies were all good, some better than others, but they have a better track record than the next degeneration cast as far as movies go.
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It's the old bait and switch. You've got a theater full of trek nuts who've come for one thing and they get another. You're going to get these massively frantic retardly good reviews because people are instantly excited about the switch. OMG!!! I'm watching the new trek! OMG!!! Now let's review the movie . . .
If they'd said, come down to the drafthouse to see the new trek they would have gotten reviews that had a little more perspective and a lot less frantic bullshit.
You went to the massage parlor and got a handjob for free. Of course your excited! Now that you've blown your wad come back and do a real review. -
Cloverfield...in the same category as TPM??? Twilight??? Please.
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But I hope that one of those "mediocre" Treks ur referring to isnt First Contact. That's the 2nd best trek movie right there. Back the fuck off from it!
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Reminds me of Cloverfield and Transformers....throw the geeks some Red Bull, a few industry folks, a surprise, an iconic Geek Gold actor and let the hyperbole and Geek Jizz flow.... As much as I want to believe ORCI hasn't fucked this up, as he has everything he has touched do far, I will await the reviews of less easily swayed reviewers.
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Like right fucking now!
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Even that prepubescent navel gazing vampire shit of Twilight made those droll cyborgs and the enormous cheesey Hollywood plot holes in the faux doco 'Cloverfield' look like genius
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I didn't say that Khan is a bad movie or that the TNG movies are all good. In fact I think that they are at best(First Contact) little more than above average (7-8/10 if I had to vote in the IMDB) sci fi fare...just like the better TOS movies(2+4+6). The TNG movies are just a little more enjoyable because I care more about Picard, Data and co. IMHO none of the Trek movies is nearly as good as a standart DS9 episode from season 4-7 and despite the amazing trailer I didn't except much more than action packed popcorn fun from this reboot. I would be more excited about a new Trek TV series with the ambitions of DS9 or the Galactica Remake.
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You can officially start sucking it now. Better start exercising those throat muscles, you pissy little douchebags.
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Something I've learned about this site in my last few years of lurking and, more recently, posting... this is the favorite movie site for people who hate movies.Seriously, you can't find a single Talkback anymore without droves of people claiming a movie will suck, even when it was only just announced, and that only the dregs of humanity will enjoy it. It's quite clever how they say it really... if you dare to post that you actually enjoyed a movie, you've already proven yourself scum and everything that is wrong with society and you are beneath them, by their logic.
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Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
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If I see anyone else try to say First Contact isn't on par with Wrath of Khan I'll come to your house and murder you. Patrick Stewart has more talent in his eyelashes than any actor from TOS has in their whole being. I LOVE TOS, but it's true. Shit I had a lot more to write but now I'm realizing I'm too lazy to do so. Point: First Contact is every bit as good as Wrath of Khan.
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Crow3711 you are right about the nature of AICN. There is no consensus about which films are to be loved. There is only war about which films deserve our scorn.
This is why I again bring up the issue of Tanya Roberts tits in BEASTMASTER. For surely if we cannot agree over loving them then we cannot agree over anything. -
Koya, you were right about FIRST CONTACT. Tell your sister, you were riiiiight....
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Point of view taken and understood, as I have always said I don't mind different opinions it is what makes us individuals. That being said, I have high hopes for this reboot, as it has been too long since I have cared about Trek, and that is a shame because I love Star Trek, and want to care about it again.
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Yep.
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But First Contact IS NOT on par with Wrath of Khan, it is the closest TNG has ever come as far as quality, but just as good? Not even close. Agreed Patrick Stewart is extremely talented, but I, along with a lot of others, have never been truly emotionally invested in the characters of TNG and that's why it was and always will be inferior to TOS, just MHO, if you think ST:FC is just as good as Khan, that's your opinion and you are entitled to it, but I will never say that because I don't believe it, nor do a lot of other Trek fans.
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Apr 07, 2009 11:21:12 AM CDT
I hope they try this SWITCH for GB3 for the first film
by six demon bag
austin burns to the ground
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If it features "Arthur's Theme" somewhere in it. I fucking LOVE that song.
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...Koyaanisqatsi, what the fuck are you smoking? First Contact is watchable but Khan rapes it and leaves it staggering home bow-legged and crying. Check out Troi getting drunk and those nuggets of comedy gold - "this is no time to discuss time, we don't have the time" - where do they come up with this stuff?? Check out the shittiest, most inelegant, unattractive, half-assed design of the Enterprise ever. Watch as the production team piss away the budget in the opening 10 minutes and leave the rest of the film looking as though it was made for $600. Marvel as Picard walks into a 1940's club for no reason whatsoever. And prepare to be amazed as Brent Spiner overacts his powdery golden ass off again. Compared to the elegance, emotional impact and sheer cinematic bad assery of Khan, First Contact is what it is - an average sci fi movie.
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Excellent! Nice review as always Massa!And as good as FC is, it is nothing compared to WoK. Stewart may be better than any actor in WoK but Montalban's barely in checked performance gave life to one of the greatest villains of all time. Certainly the most interesting and compelling villain in all of Trek's history.
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"They assimilate whole worlds, and we fall back. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further. And I will make them pay for what they have done!" Tell me that's not great acting. Patrick Stewart is the man. Though I am looking forward to this new movie as well, but man, Patrick Stewart actually can make tears well up in me when he speaks sometimes... never felt that way about anything in TOS.
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Well, that is how some of us feel about TOS characters and films, I never felt how you described with anything or anyone in TNG. Not putting you down at all, just saying there are different feelings from different fans.
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Paramount did NOT give JJ $150 million dollars of its hard-earned cash in the middle of a prolonged recession so it could make a film for the geeks. It gave him all that money so he could make an action film that would Play in Peoria. People here don't get this . They want the Movie of the Year.
They want JJ to deliver Star Wars: Episode IV. Even if he falls short of that epic cinematic accomplishment, he's probably delivered the movie of the Summer. -
and for any Trek 'fans' who follow the 'every even movie is good every odd movie is shit' is a drone asshole with no opinion of their own.
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First Contact is good, the best of the NG movies. But it has one fatal flaw in it that will always keep it back a step from greatness. That flaw - the Borg Queen. Never has a stupider character been introduced into the Trek movies (yeah even worse than Spock's half brother in ST:5). The whole concept of the borg is that they are faceless, the many, and they going to fucking roll over you. That's what made them terrifying, that was what made them great.
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Apr 07, 2009 12:39:33 PM CDT
The Undiscovered Country was shit. As a kid I hated it
by doctorzoidberg
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Apr 07, 2009 12:40:58 PM CDT
Picard is still a god though, no matter what anyone sez
by doctorzoidberg
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bfi imax at waterloo, now booking get them while you can!
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and im a TNG fan, but that was the perfect send off for the crew and a movie accessible for all, not just star trek fans
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You are insane if you think it was better than Khan, or First Contact.
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I have been reading all the reviews, and now I can't fucking wait to see it. i think, same as a lot of people, I really want it to be good, and if the film lives up to the reviews, I think i may just cry. Better than screaming at the screen end of Burton's Ape film I suppose. If it is really that good, well I suppose it cements JJ Abrams position, as the best motherfucking filmaker on the planet. Lost, is also going through the roof. Last weeks episode fucking rocked. Rahman out.
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imo.
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Damn, must be caught in a time warp here. Seriously, though--this stunt got everyone's attention. Will be seeing this with semi-high expectations now.
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but I hated that George Lucas has to take the Praxis explosion ring of fire and incorporate it into every god damn explosion in his movies.
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Please. Get over the hype and let me watch it first. I'll tell the world what is what.
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Is my litmus test. If you like First Contact, you're obviously not the kind of Star Trek fan I am. Because while it is well-acted, it completely misses the point of the Borg. It makes Star Trek into a brainless action movie. Nothing in that movie approaches any of the above average episodes of the series.
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you said it the wrong way.
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then i (and many others) fail your "litmus" test. what losers we are!! how did I miss that?? And how awesome you must be!!! (you know, to be "that" kind of trek fan)...AND to have your own litmus test! no one gives a fuck about what kind of star trek fan you are you arrogant douche. FIRST CONTACT FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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no shit, that bugged me too.
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You rogue mavericks! Alright, you continue with your novel opinions.
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Sucked and sucked and sucked.
Remember the big 'line must be drawn here' speech. Three minutes later he takes it all back. You know...when the big hero of your movie has his big heroic moment...don't take it away three minutes later. That's just ONE example of all the bad writing in FC. And don't even start me on the 'Zefram Cochraine as an old drunk' bullshit.
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Excellent? Simple: Data and Picard. Also James Cromwell as Zefram Cochran. Didn't Frakes direct that too?What was weak? Story, specifically logic...why?Simple yet again: why would the Borg, who are intent on assimilating the human race of the 25th (or whatever century modern TNG takes place) go back in time to assimilate pre-warp Human society? I never understood that one gaping plot hole. They're not killers but absorbers of technology and biology distinctiveness right? Especially technology? They even walk right by humans in the movie until the humans start shooting, etc...so why would the Borg go back in time to assimilate a technologically worthless human race? That primary logic hole is what screws up that movie for me!As for the Borg queen? Yeah I get it, the legion versus individual thing and I agree that having a "queen" (individual) was a bit off but Alice Krige is awesome and I felt the role and the idea worked. Especially in her tormenting and seduction of Data.
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you said it yourself...they dont just assimilate technology. plot holes aside...i think its a really fun trek film (like part 4 was..plot holes? yeah...but fun! and isnt that the point? trek has always been about being fun as well as brainy).
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theres some real goofy acting there..and i didnt like kirk's son or that vulcan gal very much. good? yeah! overrated? hell yeah. PT6's detective plot was fun as hell and first contact had some great humour.
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love that one. plus bowie's wife!
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How was the story weak? The title is the story...the borg did not go back in time to assimilate pre-warp earth, they went back to prevent first contact. First contact lead to the eventual formation of the federation, the borgs only true dangerous enemy after species 8472.. ..the borg aren't used to losing ships to lower lifeforms and the federation destroyed 2 cubes...so prevent first contact and u win, assimlating earth is just a bonus...hope that cleared it up for u....if u wanna argue logic the only thing that's said that I agree with is, if u send one cube and its destroyed, next time u try to attack earth, send 10 cubes, why send one, again...lol
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is that it broke canon. It didn't follow from the past shows. Nothing works well without consistency.
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...that JJ will be given a pass to fuck with yet more of my childhood...not a slam on him, really...just for better or worse I suppose. Fucking Hollywood remakes...
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Apr 07, 2009 4:11:51 PM CDT
Preventing first contact is a bit of a stretch I think...
by darth macchio
As in what's to stop another ship from stopping by at some point as humans continue to experiment with warp tech and plus, the Federation isn't just the human race (far from it in fact) obviously.but, to an extent, I do concede the point (in fact it was the reason I gave myself when I saw it the first time) but it smacks of an act of desperation on part of the Borg. Why not do exactly what you said, withdraw and return with a bunch of ships. Why go all out in a desperate attack against a formidable enemy with only 1 ship? Temporal traveling is, at best, a risky science even in that universe (or else why not go back in time and wipe out pre-tech early humans, etc).And if it is desperation then I guess resistance isn't actually futile and I'd bet the Borg would realize this at some point and start saying something like "Resistance is not recommended." or even "Resistance is mean and rude."In that episode with Q back in the day, when he took them to the Delta quadrant (can't believe I can remember that) there were MANY many Borg ships..so much so that resistance actually was futile. They could easily overwhelm the Earth (yeah but then a massive warp presence might alert them to alert others of the Fed, etc etc etc..and so on)Don't get me wrong...FC is my favorite Trek flick next to WoK without question but they do portray the Borg as far too weak and strategically incompetent. But all in all a great movie...Stewart kicks ass in everything he does (plus you can change it to say "The line must be drawn BEER!!!" which is genius).
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u obviously never saw the episodes where picard was kidnapped and essentially violated physically and mentally by the borg... his "line" speech was directly related to the shame and helplessness he felt, and how he would NEVER let that happen again...but common sense prevailed when he realized he was fighting a losing battle and risking other lives besides his own...so when he decided to abandon ship, he did what picard would do..the calm cool picard he always was....and zephram cochrane in all trek history was described as having an alcohol problem...
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LOL at "resistance is mean and rude" and BEER, hahah....good one....i suppose they had to make the borg monotonous in the one ship at a time thing just to make it seem sensible because earth would be gone if they sent 20 or 30 ships...
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i never comment this much in one talkback but all the people that watched first contact but obviously didnt pay attention annoys me..... picard and lily went into the '40s club on the holodeck to get away from the borg following them hoping they could lose themselves in the fake crowd....duh....and seein troi drunk still trying to be logical was hillarious...as was "im just trying to blend in" ..."you're blended allright"
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Plastic chest piece, cheesy cheap EFX, with Montalban out-overacting Shatner. And a space station housing a monumental project like Genesis ... completely unguarded and vulnerable to a hijacking by random space bandits?? Are you fucking kidding me? TWOK is easily surpassed by ST: Generations.
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What kind of drugs are you on...exactly??? Death of Spock, Kirks son, Romulan Ale, Creatures in our bodies, best ship battle ever filmed??? Of all the films made so far I like 2, parts of 3, 4, 7, 8, & 10. Generations was good, but better than TWOK??? Wow...
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Give us the flashback to the Black Rock dude... don't finish up season 6 without it dude.. I'm talking the high seas, swashbuckling, splashing waves, the starboard bow.. all of it dude. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. You and Cuse owe us from the Libby backpeddle you did. Comeon now.
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lol. Still might be ok.
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How you been homey? How's the married life? You making little 'Backers yet? As Rodney Dangerfield says "The best thing about having kids is making them!"
You know I have a deep affection for you, but don't mess with KHAN, even if you're kidding (which you are, because you're funny like that). -
Does Trek anally rape my great-grandfather's corpse while shoving pussyjuice-covered shitballs up my cockhole thereby causing me to cum diarrhea into my own open and willing mouth?
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What up homes?!
Yes, you are correct sir - I was just messing around about TWOK. BlueHawaii *kinda* took the bait but I was wanting to get flamed the hell out.
No lil' backers yet ... but ... just signed a contract for a 3-BR condo, and the next logical step would be to fill it with chillen.
How are YOU doing and how are things upstate? I wish you coulda messed around with us in the Baleback, but needless to say you are still a Professional nonetheless. -
Wow, what the hell have you been smoking? TWOK is EASILY surpassed by Generations? In what reality would that be? I would really like to know how that mess of a ST movie surpasses TWOK. They took an iconic character and gave him the lamest death ever put on film, that alone makes it lame on a grand scale. Patrick Stewart is a great talent but it is drowned out by the awful overacting of Jonathan Frakes, and gee whiz, once AGAIN Guinan knows EVERYTHING how convenient. Not a good movie and not even close to the greatness of TWOK, at least not in this reality.
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Good one, I thought you were serious. WHEW.
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Ignore that fucking idiot. TWOK is classic!!!
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Apr 07, 2009 6:17:29 PM CDT
ON THAT NOTE, SHOULDN'T THEY HAVE STRAPPED GUINAN TO A MACHINE
by chaimbensexyback
and used her powers to control the universe? Instead of having her serve drinks to 3-eyed / 2-dicked aliens?
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The chest was REAL. In fact it was that chest that caused his costume to be changed, because the original costume was less revealing of his upper body.
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TNG is what i grew up with, yes i used to watch TOS, as a kid, but not as fanatically as tng, ds9 and voy (ENT never got into).
I thought first contact was the best TNG movie, but the best star trek movie for me is the undiscovered country. Yes TWOK is brilliant, Khan was / is the best villain, but perhaps for me, spocks death resonates less for me as i watched the following movies and spock lived again.
the undiscovered country was great, the story entertaining and highly quotable. Rarely can watch that movie again and again and not feel bored. spock, becomes captain, has some fantastically witty lines, sulu gets his own ship, the crew as a whole gets closure.The real story was that this was the last time we'd see them again together. for the TOS crew, it was the perfect bookend. for TNG, all good things works for me as the ending they deserved. -
Plus some clips http://digg.com/d1nrMA
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and it does not hold up IMO. I used to think it was one of the best, but it pales in comparison to WOK and TVH in terms of action and characterization. I actually rank it below the first four movies now.Granted, I haven't seen Search for Spock or The Motion picture in awhile, but my lasting impressions of them are that they were comparably good. SFS especially. I felt it worked quite well as an epilogue to WOK, and is underrated in this series simply because it does fall between two of the best in the series. In fact, I am curious as to what other talkbackers have to say about SFS. I don't see it discussed much at all, and I really can't remember any fault with it. Why does it always get such a pass in this franchise?Based purely on lasting impressions, I currently rank the non-TNG films as follows:1) Wrath of Khan2)The Voyage Home3)The Motion Picture4)Search for Spock (it could take the #3 spot after another viewing)5)The Undiscovered Country6)The Final Frontier
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1)The Undiscovered Country
2) Wrath of Khan
3)The Voyage Home
4)Search for Spock
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OMG debating the merits of individual movies as if it were a life and death pursuit. Enjoy them for what they are. I'm reminded of that scene in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back were Affleck's character explains to Jay and Bob that what the internet is, and what it is used for, "a place for dorks and nerds to come together to bitch and moan about movies". Get a life losers, and go Star Trek in all its forms. Cheers
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"It was a hell of a thing when Spock died..."
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You're doing it right. I'm very happy for you. Things are good with me too- I guess it's getting to the time where I move in with my girlfriend soon. She's in NJ though, and I swore to every man and his kin when I was 12 that I'd never go live in NJ. But, for love? Maybe...
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and it's just like you said, Massa -- Urban nails Bones. So damn psyched for this.
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...Yeah, I got that they went into the holodeck to escape the Borg but it was just such a random, pointless scene. Y'know, why didn't Picard just turn off the safetys and go into a program with some real badass weapons? Instead of which he uses a fucking 1940's tommy gun (and the Borg, despite all that fearsome looking rubber shit they wear, don't have the most rudimentary body armour? Fuck guys, have a word with your tailor). Another thing - FT, as "the Borg movie" everyone had expected TNG to eventually make, should have been fucking epic. There should have been Borg cubes all over the place, climactic epic space battles with visuals to fry your brain (and it looks like Abrams has grasped that one), a sense of the majesty and terror of the collective. Instead we got a Borg cube casually blown to bits within 5 minutes and for the rest of the movie they fucking walked round the Enterprise's corridors ignoring people! And sorry but the Troi humour was fucking lame. Compare it to the humour that comes naturally between Shatner and Nimoy in Voyage Home and it just comes across as an utterly forced attempt to get a cheap laugh. Actually (and one can't blame Marina Sirtis for this) Troi was a cringeworthy character in all of the TNG movies. Rick Berman: "Hey, in Generations she can crash the ship and try and cheer Picard up when we kill his off-screen family that no one will give a fuck about. In First Contact we can get her drunk and hilarity will follow. In Insurrection she can make goo-goo noises at Riker and talk about her tits firming up. And in Nemesis we'll mind-fuck her in one of the most misjudged scenes in all of Trek. All agreed?"
Bringingsexyback - got to say, that's a pretty good point about Regula being completely unguarded, hadn't really noticed it before. Khan (and his NATURAL chest) still rules though.
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Apr 08, 2009 3:18:20 AM CDT
I am an avid trek fan. Own every series and all the movies.
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
Honestly when I first heard this idea to reboot Star Trek I thought it was a totally shitty idea. I hate remakes or anything that tries to reinvent another series that was great to begin with.
That being said either I've fallen for the hype or the stuff I've seen so far in clips/trailers has been top notch and I totally get with JJ is going for.
I am stoked. I can't wait to see this. Did I like Cloverfield? Fuck no. Terrible movie. But this is something different on many levels because of the history that was already there while Cloverfield was a fresh idea. This is based on something that has lots of reference and just like any artist when you give them the right tools if they are good at what they do they can make a masterpiece. Or of course can make a pile of shit. So I am saying I don't think JJ is a bad director I just think that the material he's been given in the past has not been up to par with what he is capable of. Sort of like Micheal Bay. I hate all his movies except Transformers because he was born to direct Transformers. It's PERFECT for his style.
End rant. Bottom line is as a die hard I am stoked and all the response so far has been very positive and that's a great sign. -
TWOK blows Generations out of the water lol. It's epic Trek.
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BSB was pulling our leg.
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I'm not remotely impressed by him. MI 3 sucked, Cloverfeild sucked, and Alias wasn't that great. The man hasn't hit a thing outta the park. So as Trek fans lets hope he actually does something we can watch more than once.
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He was only a producer on Cloverfield, he didn't direct it.
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...have to be REVENGE films? One-dimensional villains twirling mustaches?? (Except for whales, of course.) 'Cause it worked in Khan?? BLAH!
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Massywrym drops such gems as "Quinto IS Spock" then he goes on to state Chris Pine IS Kirk. Is this a review or are you doing the old Milton Berle skit Reading From a Phonebook? As a review this is about as valuable for insight as reading the cast and crew list off a one-sheet. Pine IS Kirk. Quinto IS Spock. Urban does a facisimilation of BONES. Scottish dude does Scottish brogue. THIS MOVIE IS STAR TREK like it says on the title! Seriously dude, this is your review seriously? As much as everyone wants to join you for a stroll down "You-know-I-wasn't-sure-about-a-reboot-but-after-much hemming-and-hawing-and-taking-the controversial-step-of-actually WATCHING-it-I-changed-my-mind" lane. Sad to say go back to calling chinks gooks like you did in that other review... at least then people will have something to talk about
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Uh, I would hate to move to NJ too but home is where the woman is. Do it!!! Do it for sex and love!!!!!
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You know how everybody from Jersey talks about how famous people live/are from NJ? It's so goddamn annoying. Even my girlfriend does it and she only started doing this shit when she moved back there 3 years ago. When she lived in Boston, it was fine- no issues. Now, she's apparently studying for a NJ State citizenship exam or something. I'm gonna marry this girl eventually, but not before I get her to say something negative about NJ.
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I thought the Undiscovered Country was the one where they meet "God"...which did suck. It has been too long since I have seen those flicks. Undiscovered Country was pretty decent after all.
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All I can tell you is, let her take pride in Jersey. If one can't take pride in where they live, they'd be unhappy ... and you and your girl deserve to be ecstatically happy.
You have plenty of time to fight later on, but for now just do the love is blind thing.
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Apr 08, 2009 1:51:52 PM CDT
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Fuck off dumb ass bitch I got a bitch.
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I didn't want to say you were being a douche, but I was thinking it!
BSB- when you're right, you're right. I should maybe focus on the joy in my heart. This girl is a keeper, bro. Quality all the way. -
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so I'm sitting here watching some TOS (Immunity Syndrome), and I just can't get over how cool this looks. It's all coming together. 20 years ago, that whole "Starfleet Academy" concept smelled of ass, but this just looks like a whole different ball game. It's about time they let people who understand Trek actually make Trek. Welcome back, Star Trek. Long may you reign.
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