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Poster for Richard Kelly's THE BOX has hit the webs!

Published at: April 7, 2009, 4:59 a.m. CST

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I read an early draft of the script to Richard Kelly's THE BOX a looooonnnggg time ago and found it to be pretty damn good. Dark, dark stuff there and then the movie cast up, shot and posted all on the quiet. Soon we'll start seeing more promotional stuff from it, leading up to the release in October. Now the poster has hit, which Kelly has posted to his MySpace page. It's a fine studio poster, definitely gets the point across without giving anything away, but at the end of the day it's still a big head poster. What do you folks think?


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  • April 7, 2009, 5:03 a.m. CST

    Mmmmmmm...

    by Marxeffect

    i loved Donnie Darko but i remain unconvinced!

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  • April 7, 2009, 5:10 a.m. CST

    Oh My God....

    by slipscreamer

    Havn't used posted in yrs. Had too...This poster...no...please no, no..it hurts. It fucking hurts. This is a, no...ugly...no no no no...why? It's bad.

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  • April 7, 2009, 5:12 a.m. CST

    ...this is an ugly poster.

    by slipscreamer

    ...what I meant to say....whoever designed this poster....should be shot dead. It makes my brain hurt...and even tho I (heart) Darko...the better 1/2 of me NEVER wants to see this movie. B/c of a poster. I'VE RESTARTED MY ACCOUNT B/C OF THIS. This POSTER hurts my brain. I'm not lying.

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  • April 7, 2009, 5:15 a.m. CST

    and i'm sorry.....

    by slipscreamer

    For the drunken confusion in my writing. I had to post here for the first time in years. Reason being....THIS IS ONE OF THE WORST FUCKING POSTERS I'VE SEEN IN YEARS. IT ACTUALLY **HURTS** TO LOOK AT THIS THING? Am I alone here?

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  • April 7, 2009, 5:18 a.m. CST

    Too much Diaz

    by caruso_stalker217

    Does her goddamn mug have to dominate ninety percent of the poster?

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  • April 7, 2009, 5:21 a.m. CST

    ....who designed this?

    by slipscreamer

  • April 7, 2009, 5:24 a.m. CST

    Zzzzzzzzzz

    by kwisatzhaderach

  • April 7, 2009, 5:28 a.m. CST

    by slipscreamer

    i might be alone...but that poster makes me lose hope. keep fighting for the studios, cobra!

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  • April 7, 2009, 5:30 a.m. CST

    Remember when Richard Kelly was "the next big thing"?

    by JackRabbitSlim

    Oh the halcyon days of 2002, now just a misty watercolored memory...

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  • April 7, 2009, 5:32 a.m. CST

    by slipscreamer

    Theres this girl thats been on my mind All the time, sussudio oh oh Now she dont even know my name But I think she likes me just the same Sussudio oh oh Oh if she called me Id be there Id come running anywhere Shes all I need, all my life I feel so good if I just say the word Sussudio, just say the word Oh sussudio Now I know that Im too young My love has just begun Sussudio oh oh Ooh give me a chance, give me a sign Ill show her anytime Sussudio oh oh Ah, Ive just got to have her, have her now Ive got to get closer but I dont know how She makes me nervous and makes me scared But I feel so good if I just say the word Sussudio just say the word Oh sussudio, oh Ah, shes all I need all of my life I feel so good if I just say the word Sussudio I just say the word Oh sussudio I just say the word Oh sussudio Ill say the word Sussudio oh oh oh Just say the word and fuck this poster.

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  • April 7, 2009, 5:33 a.m. CST

    phil collins....

    by slipscreamer

    ....likes this poster.

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  • April 7, 2009, 5:40 a.m. CST

    Looks okay.

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Not too bad, not too overwhelming.

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  • April 7, 2009, 5:54 a.m. CST

    Cameron Diaz...re-ALLY?

    by sonnyfern

    Is she even an A-list star anymore? Is she really big enough to plast all over the poster? And damn did Southland Tales SUCKED. Hope he gets his head back with this one.

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  • April 7, 2009, 6:07 a.m. CST

    So AICN says at least some positive things about...

    by DerLanghaarige

    ...this boring poster, but trashes the Pelham remakes boring poster? What's the difference between these two? I mean, the Pelham poster made even clear, what the movie was about. (Washington Vs. Travolta and there is also a train involved somehow.) All I see here is Diaz, some red streak (Does that mean she gets ripped apart in the middle? Is it about paintings?) and a spoooooooky man with a hat (who is without a dboubt the best thing about the poster.

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  • April 7, 2009, 6:26 a.m. CST

    Can't beat a bit of James Rebhorn

    by palimpsest

    Almost the dictionary definition of "reliable screen presence".

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  • April 7, 2009, 6:28 a.m. CST

    I'll experiment with Cameron Diaz's Box...

    by Zardozap2005

    Sorry, had to be said. PEACE...!!!

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  • April 7, 2009, 6:49 a.m. CST

    My dick in a Box

    by dioxholster

    poster looks stupid and stupid

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  • April 7, 2009, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Diaz hasn't been hot in at LEAST five years

    by Nasty In The Pasty

    Seriously, look at those crow's feet around her eyes. It's not often a 35-year-old actress will look about 47, but there you go. The Mask-era Diaz was a stunner, though.

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  • April 7, 2009, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Cameron Diaz's Box

    by walrusholder

    They made a movie about her vagina

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  • April 7, 2009, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Design is stolen

    by _Palmer_Eldritch

    It's "From Hell", guys.

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  • April 7, 2009, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Still not sure

    by instant_karma

    how this movie is going to be anywhere near as good as the Twilight Zone episode it's based on without having to add all kinds of needless fluff to pad out the running time. Sci-fi and horror anthology movies need to make a comeback now!

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  • April 7, 2009, 7:52 a.m. CST

    David Kelly...Hack Extraordinaire.

    by Crow3711

    My least favorite working director. That's all. Oh, and Donnie Darko sucks dick for all you pretentious losers who actually believe it means something. It doesn't.

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  • April 7, 2009, 7:52 a.m. CST

    FUck...Richard Kelly...

    by Crow3711

    Shows what I know I guess. Haha.

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  • April 7, 2009, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Sooooooo Just to be clear...

    by Calibos's Ginger JewFro

    This a remake of the "Button Button" ep from the new Twilight Zone, yeah?

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  • April 7, 2009, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Cameron Diaz

    by BobParr

    Does Richard Kelly actually think she's a good actress or does it have something to do with their Drew Barrymore connection? She is annoying in every conceivable way.

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  • April 7, 2009, 8:26 a.m. CST

    tagline gives away too much

    by kgerm

    I would've just gone with a picture of the box with a finger slightly above the button and something like "What would you do for a million dollars?"

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  • April 7, 2009, 8:31 a.m. CST

    @kgerm

    by instant_karma

    That sounds like a much better poster. Except some folks might think it's some kind of sequel to Indecent Proposal...

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  • April 7, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Will this be a smaller version of Cube?

    by Flip63Hole

  • April 7, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Totally unoriginal

    by Mooly

    Isn't this just the From Hell poster but with Cameron Diaz's giant head instead of Depp's?

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  • April 7, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    Radio Crash... yes. For 90 mins...

    by James_O'Nasty

    schlock. Cameron Diaz is annoying as hell, to boot. Will she have a mandatory "ass-wiggling" sequence as well?

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  • April 7, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    Crap poster

    by zapano

    surely a film called the box would have a poster of a slightly opened box, thereby capturing curiosity and raising interest, no? too cliched. better stick cameron diaz's giagantic head on it instead.

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  • April 7, 2009, 10:08 a.m. CST

    I pray this is better than Southland Tales

    by Zeegloo

    I can go on eternally about how shitty this film was.

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  • April 7, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    Cameron Diaz?

    by MrMerle

    I mean, seriously?

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  • April 7, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST

    And Poor Frank Langella

    by MrMerle

    Slummin' already after playing a lead in Frost/Nixon.

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  • April 7, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Button Button is one of the few New Twilight Zone

    by jim

    episodes I still remember (others being The Once and Future King, and the one with the blue men). It was great as a 30 minute story; don't see how they will be able to stretch it out to 90.

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  • April 7, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST

    cameron diaz

    by DocDaneeka

    looks old.

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  • April 7, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    whatever happened

    by DocDaneeka

    to illustrated posters? oh yeah, photoshop. even this crappy design would make a much better-looking poster if it was hand painted.

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  • April 7, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    I guess James Marsden is not famous enough to merit a spot on th

    by Mr. Pricklepants

    Other than getting second billing in the credits. It's all about Camerion Diaz apparently.

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  • April 7, 2009, 10:43 a.m. CST

    ^on the poster

    by Mr. Pricklepants

  • April 7, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Excellent movie

    by jrlamps

    Saw this last june, with a few VFX missing and loved it. Langella is pretty incredible, and the rest of the cast, including diaz, do a very good job. So for those worried, it may not be the next donnie darko (although it is close), but its definitely a solid film

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  • April 7, 2009, 10:53 a.m. CST

    Looks like the poster for "From Hell"

    by Midnight Thud

    More or less... same red streak design.

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  • April 7, 2009, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Poster looks like shit

    by mefrog

    But I'm still pretty excited for this movie.

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  • April 7, 2009, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Get the girl a friggin sandwich...

    by Darth Macchio

    Seriously...the sun's burned it's indelible print into her face by now so there's no hope of not looking 10 years older than she is but why the fucking mandatory Karen Carpenter look? Does anybody besides other non-lesbian women think emaciated women are attractive? Look at her in 'Head above Water' or as someone mentioned earlier, 'Mask' but when I saw that skeletal face and non-existent ass all shaking and smiling as if it was attractive in that Charlie's Angels piece of shit, I wondered how a person's sense of self perception can be so off and yet he or she is capable of eating and walking like normal people. She did a modeling job for Vogue or something a year or 2 ago and wasn't a toothpick and was a brunette and I freaked out...was amazed at how beautiful she was but then she promptly went on the cokehead diet and bleached her mellon and slammed right back into mundane-ville. Meh.<p>At least this is one Matheson property that most anyone can get right.

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  • April 7, 2009, 11:50 a.m. CST

    Cameron Diaz's box?

    by Dan the Geek

    I'm all up in that shit! sure she's the only latina in Ass Debt but if i can get her into that dance dress from The Mask then i'll be set.

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  • April 7, 2009, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Is this a...

    by zombie_buffet

    ...poster for a Sex in the City: Origins movie? Maybe the first time the "Box" of one of the ladies experiences its monthly visitor?

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  • April 7, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Eli Roth not directing? now more interested

    by awepittance

  • April 7, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    "now I will give to someone..you dont know!!" bwahaha

    by FleshMachine

    push the button and you get rich but someone you dont know dies...classic episode. but how on earth can they turn this into a whole movie? the story could be told in 20 min. (and was!)

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  • April 7, 2009, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Oh shiiitt it's a Box

    by Dhaemon

    Whats next, "The Shoe"?

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  • April 7, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST

    At least Kelly's toning it down a bit.

    by Knuckleduster

    I think telling a more straight forward story will do him some good and actually help him develop as a filmmaker. Maybe he's gotten over trying to be the next Lynch.

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  • April 7, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    lol that the real title?

    by torontoxic

    wow. Was The Balloon Knot already taken?

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  • April 7, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST

    The Box 2: Electric Boogaloo

    by Outlaw

    Wow, judging by the picture, I couldn't tell if that was Cameron Diaz or Madonna...which I guess is good news for Madonna, or bad news for Diaz.

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  • April 7, 2009, 1:26 p.m. CST

    From Hell 2?

    by Neosamurai85

    From Hell2: Hellraiser Hypercubed?

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  • April 7, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Poor James Marsden

    by donduck

    He never gets promoted in anything.

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  • April 7, 2009, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Does anyone know if its designed by the same "Hell" guy?

    by D.Vader

    Same designer? Anyone? Anyone? Just a creatively braindead zombie? The same guy who's responsible for all the shitty and bland Harry Potter posters that look the same and come out every year?

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  • April 7, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Shit, this poster has the SAME font and everything!

    by D.Vader

    Look at that! Look at the way they write out the title "The BOX" and "From HELL". Its the EXACT same font style! <p>http://tinyurl.com/cb6q2g <p> Can you not sue for a blatant ripoff such as this?

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  • April 7, 2009, 2:31 p.m. CST

    LAME

    by redfist

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Button,_Button_(The_Twilight_Zone)

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  • April 7, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    hope it revitalizes Cameron Diaz's career...

    by cifra

    ... she's probably the most underrated actress working in Hollywood today.

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  • April 7, 2009, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Remember when Richard Kelly made the worst film ever

    by drturing

    I'll never forget.

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  • April 7, 2009, 3:32 p.m. CST

    Kelly's first commercial film.

    by knowthyself

    I'm a big fan of Donnie Darko and Southland Tales. It'll be nice to see what Kelly does in a more controlled environment. He's a mad genius behind the camera but sometimes a little restraint can be a good thing.

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  • April 7, 2009, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Donnie Darko was an overblown pile of shit

    by slone13

    Stop pretensding otherwise. Kelly had no fucking idea what he was trying to "say". It's completely clear in the director's commentary that he didn't know himself. Hell, there's whole deleted scenes from Darko that, had they been included, would have completely negated/changed entire plot points. Case in point: Donnie finding out he was taking placebos.

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  • April 7, 2009, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Poster? Ugh. Diaz? BIGGER ugh!

    by decypher44

    Damn, I dislike this "actress".

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  • April 7, 2009, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Cameron Diaz was at her hottest in...

    by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise

    The Mask. After that her body just sort of...vanished.

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  • April 7, 2009, 6:39 p.m. CST

    D. Vader, nice catch

    by BadMrWonka

    it's pretty amazing how similar they are...and yet, somehow the one for From Hell is awesome, and this one is terrible. very interesting...

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  • April 7, 2009, 7:10 p.m. CST

    Cameron Diaz as the title character!

    by Jawa 007

  • April 7, 2009, 7:27 p.m. CST

    Read the online blog comic

    by necgray

    The film won't make any sense if you don't read the online blog comic. It gives you all the information you need that the film leaves out for some unknown fucking reason. Oh, and also it's a horror film but the 1983 cast of Saturday Night Live shows up as minor characters. Kelly's got a Twitter with director's commentary as he films, which he changes every day when he decides that the film means something OTHER than what he just said it meant two minutes ago. <p> Yes, if you can't tell, I am not a fan of the man.

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  • April 7, 2009, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Read the script months ago

    by OutlawsDelejos

    wasn't hugely impressed, nice idea's though. Might have gone through some changes by now though.

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  • April 7, 2009, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Hawn

    by shodan6672

    It reminds me of the poster for the piece of shit film with Goldie Hawn , Deceived.

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  • April 7, 2009, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Diaz's Head

    by tallsy

    I'm confused that their marketing campaign is focusing solely on Diaz. It's strange that Marsden was not able to capitalize on his success last year.

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  • April 7, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Box!!!

    by california_mtz

    I SEE a box! I WANT a box! I SEE a box! I want to box you IN!!!

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  • April 7, 2009, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Give the movie a chance...

    by california_mtz

    It's about a BOX!

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  • April 7, 2009, 8:38 p.m. CST

    ...AND Donnie Darko was a great movie

    by california_mtz

    Why so much negative emotions about an upcoming movie? Why not just treat it as such and see it when it comes out if you're so inclined? Why does a poster cause such a spew? If the process be Pavlovian, that still does not explain such hostility roused by ... a poster?

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  • April 7, 2009, 8:39 p.m. CST

    This Might Be Kelly's Last Shot...

    by Cinematronica

    Southland Tales was so universally panned (for good reason), and there has been so much bluster about Donnie Darko being over-rated, if Kelly doesn't perform this time around, I don't know how many supporters he'll have left. I hope he can outdo himself here, but I highly doubt it with a cold-fish lead like Diaz. Putting her in your movie is like admitting you've lost before you even start the race: "Yeah, this one might not be too good, folks. Maybe you'd better just rent this one instead..."

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  • April 7, 2009, 9:56 p.m. CST

    Richard Kelly still has fans....

    by blue1622

    http://www.veidt.com/?p=484

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  • April 8, 2009, 12:26 a.m. CST

    Will Cameron Diaz BURP in it? Mmmm.

    by Fa Fa Fooey

    She just loves to talk about burping in interviews.

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  • April 8, 2009, 12:46 a.m. CST

    Did Southland Tales have a large budget?

    by Amy Chasing

    It looked like it did. Hence why it's on my list of worst films I've ever seen. I figure when you have a big budget and you still make a film that's completely uninteresting, unentertaining, and fails to accomplish anything in terms of film-making & acting - you go on the list with Lost In Space & Dreamcatcher. Although now I think of it Boytown didn't have a big budget and that's on the list too. Well, let it not be said that I discriminate on budget.

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  • April 8, 2009, 12:50 a.m. CST

    Kelly = Shyamalan

    by wash

    Decent first flicks, bad follow ups (and I'm including the shit director's cut of DD which I count as an entirely separate film) big egos, and as annoying as fuck when they open their mouths.

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  • April 8, 2009, 12:51 a.m. CST

    ok Shyamalan had two decent flicks

    by wash

    Unbreakable was good too.

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  • April 8, 2009, 1:48 a.m. CST

    The Box is based on Richard Matheson's short story "Button Butto

    by Voyageur

    "Button Button" was a short story written by science fiction/supernatural horror great Richard Matheson (I Am Legend, Stir of Echoes) who wrote for Twilight Zone (the best tv show of all time in my opinion)... It was only ever adapted for the 80s Twilight Zone series. "Button Button" is a great little short story. I, too, am wondering how it will be stretched to 90 minutes, though. However... Frank Langhella is playing the man who approaches the couple with the mysterious box, so kudos there! Great casting. I read that Kelly's script involves a NASA laboratory, so maybe it involves the government somehow, or maybe Kelly's fascination with space-time. This could be a pretty interesting film considering the material (Richard Matheson) and the screenwriter/director (Richard Kelly).

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  • April 8, 2009, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Bland poster, looks like generic Photoshop fodder

    by KillaKane

    Compare that with Darko's publicity art. Shame as I'm sure this project will get Kelly back on track if word on the script (which is drawn from a Richard Matheson novella)is anything to go by.

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  • April 8, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST

    Voyageur, I too saw it on The Twilight Zone

    by jim

    ***Possible minor Spoilers*** (although anyone who wants to find the story doesn't have to look too hard)<br>I still reference that story - I loved the play on words, how the same thing can mean very different things, depending on the context. I think this film's 2nd act will end where the Twilight Zone episode ended, the 3rd act being the couple freaked out and trying to get the box back. But that's just my guess on how to stretch this short story into a feature film.

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  • April 8, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    i dont know what this is about

    by Potatino

    and this poster doesn't make me want to care. So maybe it is a bit crap. Either way the sounds like a good title for a classy porno movie... ahem

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  • April 8, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Lame poster, lame "actress"

    by jimmy_009

    Other than the Mask, has she done anything worthwhile? Pretty weak casting.

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  • April 8, 2009, 12:34 p.m. CST

    LEAVE CAMERON ALONE!

    by uberman

    She is freinds with Drew 'I'm sober...I just drink champagne' Barrymore. They made CHARLIES ANGELES together. She dated Justin. How can you be so cold?

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  • April 8, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    ZZZZZZzzzzzzz* huh?

    by the_shogun_gunslinger

    Oh? The Box? Yeah, I saw the poster..... yeah... 5 more minutes, mom... ZZZZzzzzz

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  • April 9, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST

    If you think rape should be legal, see "The Box!"

    by Iowa Snot Client

    Makes as much sense here.

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  • April 11, 2009, 7:42 a.m. CST

    A Poem:

    by Prague23

    Box, The Once upon a time, in the land of Hush-A-Bye, Around about the wondrous days of yore, They came across a kind of box Bound up with chains and locked with locks And labeled "Kindly do not touch; it's war."<p> A decree was issued round about, and all with a flourish and a shout And a gaily colored mascot tripping lightly on before. Don't fiddle with this deadly box,Or break the chains, or pick the locks. And please don't ever play about with war.<p> The children understood. Children happen to be good And they were just as good around the time of yore. They didn't try to pick the locksOr break into that deadly box. They never tried to play about with war. Mommies didn't either; sisters, aunts, grannies neither 'Cause they were quiet, and sweet, and pretty In those wondrous days of yore.<p> Well, very much the same as now, And not the ones to blame somehow For opening up that deadly box of war. But someone did. Someone battered in the lid And spilled the insides out across the floor.<p> A kind of bouncy, bumpy ball made up of guns and flags And all the tears, and horror, and death that comes with war. It bounced right out and went bashing all about, Bumping into everything in store.And what was sad and most unfair Was that it didn't really seem to care Much who it bumped, or why, or what, or for.<p> It bumped the children mainly. And I'll tell you this quite plainly, It bumps them every day and more, and more, And leaves them dead, and burned, and dying Thousands of them sick and crying. 'Cause when it bumps, it's really very sore. Now there's a way to stop the ball. It isn't difficult at all. All it takes is wisdom, and I'm absolutely sure That we can get it back into the box,And bind the chains, and lock the locks. But no one seems to want to save the children anymore.<p> Well, that's the way it all appears, 'cause it's been bouncing round for years and years In spite of all the wisdom wizzed since those wondrous days of yore And the time they came across the box, Bound up with chains and locked with locks, And labeled "Kindly do not touch; it's war."<p> Lascelles Abercrombie

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