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Published at:  Apr 03, 2009 7:22:18 PM CDT


Merrick here...



Since the release of the first IRON MAN movie, there's been a bit of conjecture/rumor that IRON MAN 2 might feature the comics' "Demon in a Bottle" storyline (HERE). Said arc deals with Tony Stark's alcoholism.

A new report over at MTV indicates the forthcoming sequel will not tackle said subject matter, although Favreau and Downey suggest "Demon" could be fodder for later installments. Seems this time:

“We’re going for the interim space [between the origin and “Demon”] which is more a look behind the mask of someone who says he’s Iron Man and what it really is to become a superhero.”


...says Downey in THIS piece at MTV.

IRON MAN 2 starts filming Monday.










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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:08:51 PM CDT

    FIRST

    by nyuk_nyuker

    Can't believe I did that.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:12:18 PM CDT

    Demon in a bottle

    by jackalcack

    Isn't that a song by Christina Aguilera?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:12:21 PM CDT

    Not sure I want to see the alcoholism stuff now

    by juansanchez

  • Apr 03, 2009 7:18:10 PM CDT

    Then why the fuck is Rourke in it?

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 03, 2009 7:18:43 PM CDT

    and Merrick..what the fuck is a "pice"

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 03, 2009 7:19:50 PM CDT

    Good Call

    by mr. lahey

    Iron Man was too much fun to have such a serious theme for it's second outing. I'm sure they'll throw in some foreshadowing, however.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:19:58 PM CDT

    Too dark

    by next_wednesday

    The thing I liked about Iron Man was how light and fun it was in contrast to something like Dark Knight. And I don't think it's wise to do it in the third either...is it some kind of comic movie rule that the third installment is darker; SM-3 XM-3...and we all know how they went *shudder*

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:25:28 PM CDT

    the problem with these marvel films...

    by hegele

    they play like serials. they should concentrate on the film at hand, it seems like every comic book movie just seems like an extensive trailer for the next.

    take a note from The Dark Knight.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:28:15 PM CDT

    One of the reasons I was a fan of Iron Man as a kid

    by mr.underwater

    Was that it was darker and more adult than other Marvel fare. And, one of the reasons I excused the movie for being so light and fluffy was that the filmmakers were promising to get darker in the next installment, after the whole origin stuff was out of the way. I guess they plan on keeping it light and fluffy. Oh well... I guess that will sell more tickets

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:31:41 PM CDT

    Iron Man worked...

    by themarinebiologist

    I don't care if it feels like a serial, I liked it. Marvel does not have to try to be like Dark Knight.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:31:58 PM CDT

    first one was decent

    by theexterminator

    enough, started well but was a bit boring in the last third. i'd like to see the alcoholism thing handled as it was something that i liked and drew me to the character of iron man

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:35:49 PM CDT

    I know what you mean about Marvel serials

    by billemic

    The entire experience of "Incredible Hulk" felt like 'let's cut a trailer to get you psyched to pay $8 to sit in the theater and get psyched to pay $8 for the next movie (Avengers).'

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:39:24 PM CDT

    I guess if Marvel wants to go "dark"

    by mr.underwater

    They'll do it with the Daredevil reboot (since Daredevil was their Batman, the reboot will be their TDK).I'd like to go on record and say they should give the Daredevil movie to Abel Ferrara. He'd relish every morsel of the over the top grittiness Daredevil is known for, plus, he's already did a (sort of) superhero movie with someone who's mute (Ms. 45), so I think that qualifies him to do one with someone who's blind.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:49:17 PM CDT

    Reboot Daredevil asap

    by liljuniorbrown

    Daredevil could be super bad ass if stripped down and given the right writer/director. They should loose the Elecktra story and do a Bulls Eye/Kingpin brawl. Just don't let it end up like Punisher War Zone... What the fuck were they thinking on that one?

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  • Look, as much fun and wackiness they can cram into the Iron Man story, in the end he succumbs to a very human frailty in addiction. That's what makes him interesting, not that he has a fancy robot suit.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:53:49 PM CDT

    Redemption

    by enderandrew

    I think everyone really liked see RDJ in a positive light again in a redemption story. Honestly, I think the first film should have dealt a bit with him dealing with alcoholism, and him only really becoming this hero towards the very end. Now that he is this selfless hero, do you turn him into a drunken schmuck in the sequel? Doesn't make sense.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:59:17 PM CDT

    no subject

    by kabookieslap

    It seems to me that Favreau (SP) said that they might bypass that storyline as they did it in Hancock. Maybe they are just trying to distance themselves from Hancock's original release so people aren't saying that they are copying Hancock when a lot of Hancock copied it from Iron Man.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:07:23 PM CDT

    Damn

    by melvin_pelvis

    I was hoping they'd dropped the Black Widow story and thus Scarlet McBewbs

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:07:56 PM CDT

    Will he cry?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Please no.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:09:47 PM CDT

    What a sad shame.

    by spidermanfreak20

    I think this is a sad shame and am really scared for this movie. I think sequels (like Dark Knight) need to up the stakes and ante and in some ways be as good as the first. Great sequels make you not need to watch the first to enjoy. You may not remember but I ran a piece back in 2005 saying Why Cars Will Suck and lo and behold 2006 cars came out to mediocre reviews and losing the Oscar to Happy Feet. We can all agre it's not the worst Pixar film ever but certainly like A Bug's Life ultimately forgettable. It lacks the juice to push it to be a Nemo. Anywho. I feel the same way here right now with Iron Man. I think I2 will go the way of Spider-Man 3. Something that is rushed and irrelevant. Dont believe me just see the casting. Mickey Rourke is not Whiplash...Mickey Rourke is Venom/Eddie Brock. Scarlet Johanssen isn't Black Widow Emily Blunt is (far better choice). Sam Rockwell is not Justin Hammer. Peter O Toole is Justin Hammer. Aside from Don Cheadle being War Machine which is a casting decision I was against until I realize Terrence Howard belongs in the reboot of Spawn. Come on you know Howard will own Spawn. I think everything about this is weak weak weak weak. I'm not saying Black Widow and Dynamo and Whiplash wont work but ask yourself are these REALLY the villains we HAVE to see for Iron Man 2? Go back to Spider-Man 2 and imagine if Raimi had said "No Doc Ock." Your getting Black Cat,Scorpion,and Rhino kids! Imagine how much worse a film that Spider-Man sequel would be without focusing it all on Spider-Man vs Doc Ock. Now said characters would be ok since Spidey has been exasperated and the pickings are slim. But for Iron Man 2 your going to the slim pickings. The audience does not know Black Widow nor do we care. It was a wise choice for Nolan to NOT include Catwoman in The Dark Knight and just use The Joker and Two-Face. Technically this movies Two Face is War Machine and we can expect he and Iron Man to go at it. But your lacking THAT critical element. WHAT MAKES THEM FIGHT! What turns Batman on Superman. What turns friend against friend. The answer is always certainly. A woman. You honestly telling me that woman is the chick who starred in The Island? Scarlet is an attractive girl. But she is no wedge. You need an actress of Kate Winslet caliber. I'm sorry but I dread the start of this film. I think this movie will be the demon in the bottle that will turn this franchise from a promising start to a terrible second act.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:12:39 PM CDT

    "selfless hero"?

    by chocolatejesus

    Iron Man didn't do anything heroic in the first movie. He was cleaning up his own mess the whole time. That's not a complaint, either, I liked that aspect of it. And they should hold off on making a soap opera addiction story, you know why? So he can keep drinking, because that's more interesting.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:18:46 PM CDT

    The alcoholism thing

    by mockingbuddha

    should not be the focus of this movie, but you got to keep him drinking, maybe even a bit of foreshadowing. Alcoholism doesn't just leap up all of a sudden, let it be on the slow burn. To really make the story work you need a great Rhodey that can take over as the hero, and since they just switched Rhodeys, I don't think the time is right. You got to find a Rhodey that's at least as good as RDJ.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:21:27 PM CDT

    maybe put it in the 3rd one?

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    since thats when franchises usually start getting stale.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:22:30 PM CDT

    first one was great except i was

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    kinda let down by the last fight. a bunch of nonsense happening lol

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:32:00 PM CDT

    Does this mean they are anticipating more than

    by dingbatty

    three? Everyone expected Demon in a Bottle for the second, and Armor Wars for the third installment (though Favreau said he wanted to just transition it into Avengers for the third, as he thinks superhero franchises tend to lose steam or outright fail in number three).

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:36:10 PM CDT

    Iron Man 3...

    by removed_user

    is obviously where the "Demon in a Bottle" story is gonna happen.

    The third movie is the one where the hero battles the evil within himself... see Superman 3 and Spider-Man 3 as reference points.

    I would have liked to see them buck tradition and do it in the second movie. That way we could've had The Mandarin awaken Fin Fang Foom in the 3rd one.

    Can't wait to see it though. Iron Man was easily one of the best superhero movies ever.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:36:55 PM CDT

    LAME ASS.

    by ptsdpete

  • Apr 03, 2009 8:38:54 PM CDT

    Thank goodness!

    by evangelion217

    The great thing about "Iron Man" is that it's light hearted fun, which completely contrasted the darker tone in "The Dark Knight." It was a perfect summer, and I hope the summer of 2010 will be atleast half as good.:)

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:41:34 PM CDT

    Thank god!!!

    by phaedrus007

    I always hated the Demon in a Bottle storyline. It was goofy and pretentious and predictable and overrated. I'm much more excited to see what the film makers come up with on their their own than to see them rehash goofy, overly-dramatic plots that passed for "deep" in the 70s.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:08:48 PM CDT

    i just hope they add laser eyes

    by brainfart

    every superhero\supervillain should have laser eyes.

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  • It was bad enough in spiderman 2 when Tubby Mcguire was forced TO REVEAL HIS IDENTITY BY HAVING HIS MASK TAKEN OFF OF HIM, NOT TO MENTION THE LAME ASS FACETIME HE NEEDED TO HAVE AT THE END OF THAT ABORTION THEY CALL SPIDERMAN 3.

    NOW, FAVREAU WANTS TO GO WITH THE REVEAL THAT STARK IS IRON MAN? I THOUGHT THAT WAS A JOKE AT THE END OF THE MOVIE WHEN ROBERT DOWNEY JR. SAID HE WAS IRON MAN. I THOUGHT THAT HE WOULD QUICKLY SAY "JUST KIDDING!" TO THE PRESS.

    THE WHOLE REASON FOR SECRET IDENTITIES IS SO THAT MEN LIKE STARK, WHO HAVE SO MUCH TO PROTECT, CAN BECOME SUPER HEROES AND HELP OUT SOCIETY WITHOUT HAVING ANY RETRIBUTION TAKEN OUT ON EITHER HIMSELF OR HIS LOVED ONES. THE SAME GOES FOR SPIDERMAN.

    COME ON FAVREAU! GET A CLUE!

    P.S. - IT IS ALSO MAKES A REALLY FUN AND INTERESTING THING TO THREATEN A HERO WITH. FOR INSTANCE...

    MEET ME THERE AT MIDNIGHT SPIDERMAN, OR BY TOMORROW EVERYONE IN NEW YORK WILL KNOW YOUR TRUE IDENTITY, MR PETER PARKER!

    COME ON PEOPLE, LET'S HAVE SOME OLD SCHOOL COMIC-BOOK FUN IN MOVIES LIKE WE USED TO BACK IN THE 70'S, 80'S, AND 90'S!!!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:13:11 PM CDT

    Caplocks dont get your point across any better

    by brainfart

  • Apr 03, 2009 9:13:47 PM CDT

    I hurt her, Pepper

    by anything but tangerines

  • Apr 03, 2009 9:14:30 PM CDT

    Re-Boot Daredevil !

    by vieri32

    I agree with the right writer and director it would kick but. The first one was alright but couldve been so much better. I think the costume was kind of weak.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:17:33 PM CDT

    @0101

    by phaedrus007

    First off, it wasn't Favereau's idea, it was Kevin Feige, head of Marvel Studios. Second of all, Tony Stark's identity has been public knowledge in the comics for years. Third, by NOT giving him a secret identity they've made him far more interesting and original than every single other superhero who are all the same in that regard.... i mean, do really want every single superhero to be the exact same thing?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:22:59 PM CDT

    reboot ninja turtles

    by brainfart

    The raw , gritty and ultra violent ninja turtles from the comics. Just to piss off the parents who have to tell their kids they cant go and see ninja turles this time.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:43:38 PM CDT

    This will Nuke The Fridge!

    by lanalangsucks

    BTW the first one sucked too!!!!!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:54:37 PM CDT

    Origins makes Iron Man even better.

    by ganymede3010

    This shit is going to kick the shit out of TDK. Believe it.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:06:13 PM CDT

    IF NOT A TRILOGY, THEN SURE

    by mullah omar

    Unless they MUST wrap everything up in the third film, and if the principals are on board for 4-5 films, then sure, give Iron Man a film where he just kicks pure ass and gets to enjoy being the hero. These emo-soaked days it would be revolutionary for a superhero to actually have a good time with his powers.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:17:26 PM CDT

    AVATAR NEWS: (SPOILERS)

    by my_blue_penis

    The Fast and Furious chick spilled the beans, apparently she dies at the end....hey, at least we know something, right? Now to wait for a poster or trailer....

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:36:31 PM CDT

    lol..god Iron Man sucked

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

    the suit looked like plastic and the plot could have been written by a syd field script student..fucking Iron man and Hulk = exact same movie.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:17:38 PM CDT

    Iron Man sucked?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Let's see, this site hates Iron Man. Transformers, Trek, Lost, 24. Wow. What a blow.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:18:42 PM CDT

    what else won't happen???

    by potatino

    is reporting what will not happen really news??, because my Saturday newspaper is already big enough!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:21:47 PM CDT

    I loved Iron Man

    by rufferto

    So don't speak for everyone.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:30:31 PM CDT

    I agree

    by omar b

    Save the drinking for the next one, have it foreshadowed with Tony having a drink in his hand pretty much every time he's out of costume. Bring it to a head in the next one and bring in War Machine, it works.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:47:05 PM CDT

    THIS IS GREAT NEWS!!!

    by 2sdaychicken

    Jesus people! IM2 already has so many storylines/characters/etc!! Youve got all the oldies plus CDynamo/Whiplash, Fury, Justin Hammer, Black Widow, Hawkeye, plus more; all their stories and other story-lines and the ultimate lead up to the Avengers! Save some for later movies! That is THE ABSLOUTE WORST thing a franchise can do.. try and overcrowd the storylines. It makes everything feel shortened in the film, plus the next (inevitable) movie has nothing to work with. Thats why I hate goddamned trilogies. For example, X3 and Spidey 3 both were supposed to be the "last" flicks, so everything was crammed in, and the films suffered. And of course they are making Wolverine and Spidey 4 anyways... so what was the point. Anyways, now that Marvel is making these movies, they (hopefully) know that they can spread the 80+ years of Iron Man, and all their characters stories for that matter, into MULTIPLE films, and not half-ass it all into 3. So the "demon in a bottle", "armor wars", and "Mandarin" plots will hopefully be spread out with other villains/stories till Iron Man 10.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:48:56 PM CDT

    Probably a good idea...

    by tivo1138

    I would LOVE to see Demon in a Bottle tackled on film, yet Iron Man 2 is not the time.

    After the first film, which tonally feels like a combination of the first X-Men and Spider-Man installments (although much, much better than both), "Demon" would be too much of a shift in tone.

    However, I think it'd be awesome if Iron Man 2 served as a sort of transition for a "Demon" storyline in Iron Man 3.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:52:41 PM CDT

    I'm gonna spill my guts like a Jason Victim

    by darthsaul666

    Hold on to something.... I was an X3 plant and no one on this site ever figured it out.... Hell some of you will not believe that fact right now.... But I got some pay stubs and a moment in Rise of the Silver Surfer... Why I'm I divulging so much? Because I haven't planted now for a couple of years....and Iron Man was my one of my favorite movies of all time along with TDK... That summer film season was my summer of light and shadow... Hell, the only movies I watch in theaters anymore are comic book movies. Watchmen was the shit. End of story!!!! I've read the GN many times and I know it will be the only adaptation.... I loved watching a naked Silk Specter and Jimi Hendrix's cover of All along the watchtower cranked to 11!!!! Anyway.... Or as I say to my friends, I digress. I'm very hyped to see this movie.... I love ScarJo. Her as the Black Widow has me really hyped.... Why? She has acting chops and a nice rack... All haters should read Slash's autobiography so you can realize how Rock n' Roll your not.....

    (I

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:59:03 PM CDT

    Disappointing

    by d.vader

    Can we at least see him being a drunk asshole in ONE scene? Is that too much to ask? Jeez.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:20:36 AM CDT

    maybe?

    by darthsaul666

    One of the deleted scenes on the special ed. had Iron Man as a drunk asshole

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:27:22 AM CDT

    DarthSaul are you an autistic savant?

    by murdermostfowl

    I read your post like you were Rainman. You crack me up dude... either you're on drugs or have ADD or something.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:31:15 AM CDT

    that was one of the coolest scenes

    by darthsaul666

    but the something worth developing...Definitely!!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:51:26 AM CDT

    To MurderMostfoul

    by darthsaul666

    Thanks for the response. You kick ass. The only other response I've ever got on this site was for an ambiguous response to a Blade Runner and Matrix critiques.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:00:09 AM CDT

    Iron Man 2 will suck...

    by zandunga

    ...for a very simple reason: they're rushing it. You never, ever rush work. You make sure you have an amazing, coherent story that has been polished to perfection. Why don't the studios get this, instead of fast-tracking sequels with dollar signs in their eyes? Chris Nolan had it right when he said the #1 mistake people make with sequels is just try to make everything bigger, a flashier & more impressive version of the first.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:04:28 AM CDT

    Demon In The Bottle is too soon...

    by ash talon

    Why? Because every single 2nd movie in a superhero movie has the heroes quitting and not wanting to be heroes anymore.

    This is ironic, since the filmmakers always say that the 2nd will be better due to them having gotten the origin "out of the way" in the 1st film. Then, in the sequel, they make the hero quit. So lame.

    Looking forward to what they come up with for IM2. I'm thinking we'll get a bit of the Armor Wars storyline. Hammer is responsible for IM technology being stolen and put into his Crimson Dynamo armor. Stark has to face up to his responsibility and stop Hammer. Of course, this is rather similar to Stane in the first film.

    Stark's alcoholism came about because Stane was taking over Stark's company via hostile takeover. This caused Stark to fall apart. This could be dealt with in the 3rd movie with someone taking control of SI.

    I'd like to see something like the Maggia or AIM dealt with.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:05:15 AM CDT

    Please tell me.....

    by darthsaul666

    Do androids dream of electric sheep? Mainly because I love the book far more than Blade Runner...... The best book to film adaptation of all time is.... A CLOCKWORK ORANGE... ( second is Sin City )

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:12:25 AM CDT

    Ash Talon

    by darthsaul666

    You kindle a fire that makes me want see the movie because you may be prophesying..

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:28:33 AM CDT

    They never rushed Batman and Robin

    by darthsaul666

    That was deliberate idiocy .Fuck ADD. I'm a huge Pantera fan....STRONGER THAN ALL!!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:00:59 AM CDT

    People slamming a movie that hasn't even

    by lockesbrokenleg

    been written yet? Kick yourselves in the ass and go watch some reality show.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:05:31 AM CDT

    Too soon, being a hero needs to weigh on Tony

    by domi'sinnerchild

    You can't have him diving into the bottle when he's just gaining the high of being a superhero. Doesn't fit. I wouldn't do it until after the Avergers stuff. MABYE the fourth movie when Downey should be looking pretty old and haggard.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:27:21 AM CDT

    @Nobody_Touches_Buddy_Revell

    by dingbatty

    The armor in the movie was created by Stan Winston. You are on the wrong site if you are going to insult his memory.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:32:49 AM CDT

    Not in a hurry to see Downey tackle addiction

    by sondhi

    Isn't that just a little dangerous? We just got this guy back

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:36:35 AM CDT

    I'm glad

    by superjim

    That they wont be using this alcoholism story. I hate when the Hero is neutered somehow in a movie as we get about an hour of nothing happening. It always seems to me like they are trying to keep the effects budget down when they have the hero wandering around doing human things for the middle of the movie. The same happened in Spiderman 2, by far the worst part of the film IMO.It also makes it far more difficult for me to watch with my 5 year old, he gets very, very bored without the action as he does not understand the dialogue. We end up having to watch one of his Ben 10 DVDs. AGAIN.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:41:14 AM CDT

    not sure if they should ever use the addiction story

    by bacci40

    cant one franchise stay away from getting totally dark? let stark keep banging buxom broads, making wmd's and blasting away with his repulsor rays at baddies i would be fine with that

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:54:09 AM CDT

    the workprint is already on the web

    by theplant

    Fire from their job anyone who makes a journalistic report about it without condemning it. Bought to you by Fox Propaganda News. We are watching you.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:59:33 AM CDT

    Good. It's such an expolited story line anyway.

    by hallmitchell

    Oh. We have to give him a problem. Let's make him an alcoholic.

    Great decision.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:01:54 AM CDT

    He could be an alcoholic in the second act of the film, though.

    by diagnostic

    Then he is no longer one by the final scene.
    That is the way to handle it, NOT.Good to stay away from this story line. There are other stories to tell.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:08:43 AM CDT

    The right decision.

    by siddelicious

    This is absoloutely the right thing to do in terms of tone. Also the reason the Demon in a bottle storyline worked so much in the first place is because Tony/Iron Man was such an established and familiar character. We need at least another film before the character feels that familiar on screen. Maybe it could be a subplot in the Avengers movie as that will, by definition require a different tone.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:38:41 AM CDT

    What does Merrick's 15 year old son think about this?

    by leafar the lost

    Maybe this version of Tony Stark realizes that he can control his consumption of alcohol. He doesn't have a fucking disease! Tony just needs to drink less.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:53:20 AM CDT

    RE: Daredevil rreboot

    by mr.underwater

    "In October 2008, 20th Century Fox executive Tom Rothman said that "a Daredevil reboot is something we are thinking very seriously about." Rothman added that "what it really needs is, it needs a visionary at the level that [The Dark Knight director] Chris Nolan was. It needs someone, it needs a director, honestly, who has a genuine vision.""Also..."In July 2008, Jason Statham had expressed interest in appearing as Daredevil in the future. Statham requested "just give me the chance, I would love to be Daredevil." Frank Miller agreeably pined in, adding "I think he should be Daredevil too."I can dig Statham as Murdock

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:57:39 AM CDT

    Sorry for my sloppy HTML

    by mr.underwater

    I didn't even know you could do bold in the talkbacks

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:26:30 AM CDT

    Lame.

    by knuckleduster

    That "Demon in a Bottle" storyline was the only reason I was looking forward to Iron Man 2 (that, and Mickey Rourke). I guess Marvel are more concerned with toy sales than story.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:33:34 AM CDT

    Daredevil "reboot"

    by mr spork

    I'd rather not, thanks. One is enough.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:39:59 AM CDT

    They should have saved Elektra for a Daredevil 3

    by tacom

    They could have made the first one more fun and light and then went with the darker. Elektra/Bullseye stuff for the sequel.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:51:13 AM CDT

    Statham as Murdock?

    by enderandrew

    http://www.the-isb.com/images/MurdockEvidence01.jpg

    That is Matt Murdock. He looks like Matt Damon, not Statham. And Daredevil Director's Cut is actually pretty good. Garner was unfairly hot as Elektra (though her own movie was pure garbage).

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:55:12 AM CDT

    AFTERSCHOOL SPECIAL In A Botttle

    by buzz maverik

    As far as I'm concerned, DEMON can stay in the bottle. It was boundary pushing in the comics in the '70s, or whenever it came out, but it was about as subtle and mature as a wad of bubble gum. Let Stark be a carouser, an old time man's man, an iron man, y' know. I'm staying away if it's THE SUPERHERO WHO DRANK TOO MUCH ... unless of course he throws up in the helmet, in which case, I'm camping out for the opening and buying a bootleg DVD.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:05:43 PM CDT

    I dont know if i want to see a superhero confront alcoholism

    by stooopider

    Isnt it meant to be escapism at the end of the day? Might as well call the movie 'Downey' and get it over with.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:27:35 PM CDT

    Demon In A Bottle

    by removed_user

    If you don't like it then you don't like Marvel heroes. They're flawed fuck-ups with problems. It's the fact that they're not perfect that makes them interesting.

    Tony Stark without the alcoholism and weapons manufacturing is like Peter Parker not worrying about money, girlfriends, and Aunt May's health. It's just not as good without it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:30:37 PM CDT

    darthsaul666

    by balzacs_ballsac

    If you really were a plant for X3 please climb to the top of the nearest tall building and jump off. That is all.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:32:11 PM CDT

    Put a wig on Statham.

    by removed_user

    Daredevil ain't bald.

    Also, is he enough of an actor to lose that accent? We know he can kick ass, but the accent's gotta go.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:33:27 PM CDT

    X-Men 3

    by removed_user

    Was pretty good. Better than the first one. Not as good as the second, which is one of the best superhero movies ever.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:12:04 PM CDT

    x2 is the only great one in the series

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    even though i think they spent way to much time at the damn at the end. and cyclops was wasted again. i hate x3 like most people on this site. lUlz yaLlz

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:35:25 PM CDT

    One way to deal with Demon in a Bottle

    by themikejonas

    Let's face it, what may have been a milestone in comic books decades ago could easily become tiresome tripe on a movie screen today. I agree that Demon is an essential chapter in Tony Stark's life, but I don't know if I'd want to see it play out in one of the feature films. Maybe the way to deal with it is set a movie shortly after the fact, and have Tony turn the armor over to Rhodey in the first act.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:53:10 PM CDT

    Meanwhile, Sting could show up to sing "Message In A Bottle"

    by mrmysteryguest

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:39:47 PM CDT

    When will they get to the "Stark is a dick" storyline?

    by nix_cadavre

    You know; Civil War, Invasion, World War Hulk... The recent stuff where Tony Stark became the biggest asshole in the galaxy? That would be some fun filmmaking.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:42:04 PM CDT

    NOTHING SAYS RETARD LIKE TYPING "FIRST"!

    by awkwardavenue

    Yes,ladies and sirs.

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  • Have Ironman sustain an injury in the third act of your film, barely scraping by with his life. In the third movie he could become physically dependent on a pain killer medication that he began using to accommodate his healing process. Pain killers are a serious problem as well as alcohol. Tony Stark is only human after all, so if he was hurt he would have to medicate for pain. Fans of the series would recognize and appreciate the correlation to the source material and follow the evolution of the bottle that the demon comes out of.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:59:28 PM CDT

    PS

    by gusradio

    Doctor Doom would kick the living fuck out of Ironman.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:27:27 PM CDT

    But there's still a chance

    by bjornegar

    that the storyline could be the one where Tony Stark becomes a werewolf and shits on the carpet. Right? I mean, they haven't ruled out every story yet, I hope. I hope. (Fingers crossed and toes, too.)
    As long as it's not the story where he changes into a black metal suit and goes dancing.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:31:23 PM CDT

    "What it really is to become a superhero"

    by bjornegar

    That cracks me up.
    SUPERHEROES ARE FANTASIES. There's nothing "really" about them.
    "It's, like, a whole lot better than to become a plumber, um, really. Not as good as becoming an NFL quarterback, though. Those dudes get tail. Even the homo ones."

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:27:45 PM CDT

    Ironman 2 is just gonna be filler.

    by thefunkyenigma

    Setting up for the Avengers. Could be some fucking awsome filler though.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:30:44 PM CDT

    Avengers is gonna suck.

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Hulk? Uh yeah, that movie sucked. Thor? Uh, yeah, he's just like Hulk but without green skin. Ugh.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:38:16 PM CDT

    @ gusradio

    by thebrendan

    I like the painkiller idea. He could also be whoring his tech to the government in order to stay rich. They would have him chasing down the Hulk and set up the Avengers movie. IM3: IM vs Hulk

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:47:38 PM CDT

    If Miller wants Statham to be Daredevil, than it's a NO!

    by leafar the lost

    "In July 2008, Jason Statham had expressed interest in appearing as Daredevil in the future. Statham requested "just give me the chance, I would love to be Daredevil." Frank Miller agreeably pined in, adding "I think he should be Daredevil too."

    After "The Spirit", anything that Miller thinks is a good idea has to be a bad idea. Therefore, Statham as Daredevil would be a disaster. He would make a better Judge Dredd anyway.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:16:53 AM CDT

    FRIEDMAN HAD A FAMILY!!

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:31:26 AM CDT

    DAREDEVIL WAS GREAT!!!

    by 2sdaychicken

    And I'm sick and tired of people using the shitty excuse "well actually da directors cut was reary good". The only difference between the original and DC was fuckin Coolio. Just grow some balls and admit you like the goddamn movie.


    And Ben Affleck was a good Daredevil.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:52:22 AM CDT

    Stark is already the demon in the iron bottle.

    by dingbatty

    Though I was looking forward to the twin whiskey shot injector in his helmet.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:58:08 AM CDT

    Kingpin was a pussy

    by domi'sinnerchild

    One little kick to the knees and the biggest badass in Marvel was done. Daredevil was frustrating because it ALMOST was a good movie. The opening on top of the church, picked a good story, Daredevil looking beat to hell after fights, Bullseye was solid, etc. But every scene just seemed a little off. Nothing paid off.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:26:34 AM CDT

    About those Demons.

    by sithtastic

    I am skeptical as to whether we will ever witness the Demon in a Bottle storyline due to the restrictions of a three film arc. I like where the production team is taking the series, keeping it very much in an action adventure type theme. That said, whereas my original speculation on the casting of Robert Downey Jr. as Tony Stark for solely being a man dealing with addiction (himself knowing first hand) was undone in the first film, I don't think I'm going to mind too terribly if we have to wait until say forth film, post-Avengers (or perhaps the Avengers film itself).

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:45:58 AM CDT

    Boo.

    by bobsjohnson

    This should be in the next movie, or at least the beginnings of that plot. They cast Robert Downey frickin' Jr, dammit. USE HIM! http://digg.com/d1nrMA

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:49:00 PM CDT

    Statham as Daredevil???

    by kid z

    Gee thanks for the craptacular casting idea, there Rothman, you incredible hack-ass s***bag! "Stope roit there then Kingp'n, Oi'm bloody Daredayvil, roight?" God, FOX sucks ass!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:33:57 PM CDT

    I don't know if they should ever do "Demon in a Bottle"

    by ribbons

    Did that subject get cut off? Anyways... alcoholism is obviously a big problem in a lot of people's lives, but I don't know if there's a way to make it work in a superhero movie without having it feel sort of tacked-on anyway. I would say just let him be the boozing kind-of douche he was in the first movie without worrying about it too much; questions of technology and global responsibility are more interesting anyway.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:59:40 PM CDT

    WHO IS HAWKEYE?

    by alice 13

    have they cast someone yet?i cant wait to hear scarjo do a russian accent. ugh. tetsuo's iron man is the only iron man.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:43:27 PM CDT

    Nuke The Fridge

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:53:28 PM CDT

    Jesus

    by ribbons

    Ricky_Gervais, you are one sad, strange man (not to be confused with Ricky Gervais, who is awesome).

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:08:06 PM CDT

    Tell us more about what they are not doing like its news

    by professor_monster

    Why don't you guys report something that matters -- like how you got a guy fired from his job.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:02:49 PM CDT

    Anyone else pissed at ILM...

    by sk229

    during the behind-the-scenes stuff on the IM blu-ray or DVD? I don't know, I thought when they did that side-by-side comparison of how they added all those little flaps and things and then the Stan Winston suit, I could see a difference. The Winston suit was obviously really 'there', and the ILM one wasn't. And the people from ILM even talk at length about how difficult it was to get that 'brushed chrome' surface texture for the CU's. Ummm... why did you need to get it all for the CU's when there was a perfectly good REAL suit to work with. It seemed like they were replacing shots of the actual suit with CGI for no other reason than to be condescending doochebags to the hard work that Stan Winston's team did. I mean, if it works LEAVE IT THE FUCK IN. I'm surprised they didn't also replace the shot of the Mark II laying on the car that it smashes, which looked markedly different than all previous shots because it was the real thing. Don't get me wrong, I thought ILM did a great job with the flying and anything that obviously couldn't be done practically, but other than that, it seemed like the physical suits were often replaced for no discernible reason other than to have more bells and whistles moving about on it or that, for some reason, ILM thinks they can do reality better than... well, reality. Even then, why replace the entire suit in the shot, why can't it track to the physical suit? By the way, I'm not Shane Mahan...

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  • Apr 06, 2009 7:01:18 AM CDT

    Good news

    by dazzler69

    Don't need a drunk IM yet or ever. That's something for tv drama shit.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 8:57:59 AM CDT

    Superhero Movies, for anyone interested...

    by chadley bebay

    By and large suck. Go watch Spiderman. 12 minutes into it, I guarantee you are turing it off. Its barely watchable. I loved Iron Man in the theater, got it on Blu-ray, was super excited to try out my new big tv and surround... and it was LAME. The jokes aren't funny, the shit was boring, I don't even know why I liked it. The fact is Spiderman comics weren't campy... Iron Man comics weren't campy...forget all the other adaptations that get royally fucked (Daredevil, etc), so WHY are the movies hell bent on cheap laughs and an overabundance of whimsy. What the fuck are you people smoking, those are NOT how the comics are!!!!!!

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  • Apr 06, 2009 8:59:45 AM CDT

    Again...

    by chadley bebay

    These comic book movies have the complety WRONG tone, yet we continue to praise hatchet jobs like Spiderman 2, and the much better but still WAY off Iron Man. Those movies age as well as hardboiled egg.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 9:05:31 AM CDT

    The next Marve//DC franchise...

    by statelywaynemanor

    DC...Teen Titans
    Marvel...Iron Fist.
    You heard it here first.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 10:28:19 AM CDT

    RARRRR!!! I HATE EVERYTHING!!!

    by alkeoholic77

    ROOOOOAAAAARRRR!!!

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  • Apr 06, 2009 2:20:51 PM CDT

    Actually...

    by robert.thekilled

    it would require a brief scene to allude to Stark's alcoholism. Plant the seed (which should have been done in the first film) and build a bit momentum to a serious problem within the character...leading to Demon in The Bottle (latter film). Tony Stark is alcoholic. With the suit on or off, he is in trouble. Briefly alluding to this will only serve his character arch for future installments.

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  • Apr 07, 2009 2:16:13 AM CDT

    This seems rushed

    by akiraone

    I've read other posts and I have to agree that the IM2 seems to be a film that was rushed into production. From the casting news, like Scarlett Johansson being picked as Black Widow. When Emily Blunt was in the running for the part, I was pleased, but when she was replaced suddenly by Scarlett of all actresses, I was mortified. She's way overrated,can't act,and is only really well known for her boobs(which by the way are the only things about her I do like). Plus I can't stand the pretentious twit. Now when I look at the rest of the cast and the purported direction of the film, I've got a bad feeling this sequel isn't going to compliment the first.

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