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Updated w/ Response From Fox! Fox claims it's fine to download & review WOLVERINE?!?!?

Published at:  Apr 05, 2009 1:52:10 AM CDT

Beaks here...



Fox has issued the following press release in response to Roger Friedman's idiotic review of the leaked WOLVERINE workprint.

We've just been made aware that Roger Friedman, a freelance columnist who writes Fox 411 on Foxnews.com - an entirely separate company from 20th Century Fox - watched on the internet and reviewed a stolen and unfinished version of X-Men Orgins: Wolverine. This behavior is reprehensible and we condemn this act categorically - whether the review is good or bad.


Friedman's review has been removed from Foxnews.com - which is heartening, but I agree with Moriarty that this is not enough. Friedman has admitted to breaking the law. If 20th Century Fox - and the FBI - are serious about nailing the perpetrator(s) of this leak, then Friedman must be fired immediately for downloading and reviewing stolen material. There's no wiggle room here. Allowing Friedman to keep his job sends a message that certain Fox employees - i.e. those who generate decent web traffic - are above the law in this matter. This is unacceptable. And I trust that Fox - which has thus far behaved intelligently in response to this leak - will do the right thing.





Hey folks, Harry here... Wow - didn't see this one coming! Moriarty just rang me up spitting and pissing mad about this scenario. You see, the very real and transparent shill, Roger Friedman of FOX NEWS, has written a piece where he talks about downloading and watching a 95% finished WOLVERINE - which apparently nobody else in the world has seen. Ahem. He goes on to declare, "It’s miles easier to understand than "The Dark Knight," and tremendously more emotional." and "I am, in fact, amazed about how great "Wolverine" turned out. It exceeds expectations at every turn." and even goes so far as to say he was going to download and catch up with Paramount's "I LOVE YOU, MAN" next because it was so much easier than going out in the rain.

Now - What's interesting about all of this is that FOX has a very rigid history on pursuing employees that brazenly break the rules. Like when they went after Memflix for reviewing one of their films on AICN - and got him fired. How is this situation any different FOX?

I mean, if FOX doesn't go after Roger Friedman - aren't they basically telling the entire world... It's ok?

I understand that this is damage control - the overwhelming word of mouth from this print is wretched. I've heard from fans that what they do to Ryan Reynolds' DEADPOOL is so abhorrent, that they wanted to know exactly who was responsible so they could KILL them. It was a jocular bit of hyperbole, I assure you - but the emotion was solid and real. They were pissed. I've seen fans declare, "Worse than X3" and I've seen them say, "Slightly better than X3".

Fox needed Positive word of mouth.

Now - I've been talking to John Palermo, one of the producers on the film - ever since this story broke. The word I've gotten is that the print you can see online is several months old - and is in fact the version of the film that drove FOX to spend untold millions on a couple of weeks of additional shoots. That things have been edited out and that even with that - the film now runs 20 minutes longer than that which you see online. That there was stuff they didn't like and they took aggressive and costly steps to correct that.

If they wanted Roger to write a piece to fluff up WOLVERINE - why not show him the real version of the film?

Part of the reason that I decided not to run reviews on AICN of WOLVERINE based on the work print was the knowledge that this is a 3-4 month old print - that had 2-3 weeks of reshoots and millions of work put into it to make it better, because they were not happy with that version. The only point in seeing that workprint is as a comparison to the finished version, to see the process in which the Producers and Director and Studio went through to try and make WOLVERINE as good as it could be.

It's also why I don't run script reviews after the test screening process, what's the point? Beyond the moral issues - it is old information. Script reviews when the script breaks prior to or during filming? Fair game. Test Screenings provide information on the state of the film in question - the day & night in which they screened it. But what is online is a snapshot from months ago of a film with reportedly dire issues, which they allegedly took fairly intense steps to correct.

And I did the right thing of discussing this with the producers and that is the proper way to follow up this kind of story.

But having Fox shill Roger Friedman tell everyone about this great new way to see movies for free at your home - and how all 10 of the top Box Office films right now can be seen comfortably and happily in your home, well that's criminally irresponsible and if I were FOX - Roger Friedman would be joining millions of Americans that have lost their jobs - only this time - it would be deservedly lost.

SO - what do you think of Roger Friedman's piece? WOLVERINE? FOX's policy?



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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:27:19 PM CDT

    A Trick

    by starqrtrs

    Sounds like a trick to me

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:27:52 PM CDT

    String him up!

    by lenny nero

    Even if Fox doesn't do anything, the MPAA might.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:32:44 PM CDT

    Wolverine

    by kgerm

    Honestly, it's worse than X3 which is saying something. Damned if Hugh Jackman didn't try. Gambit isn't the total wash I thought he'd be but he shows up for the most ridiculous, pointless fight ever. And I'd be fine with Deadpool if they'd let any of the characters develop. Oh, and the 180 Sabretooth takes at the end = ludicrous. It's Wolverine without balls.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:32:44 PM CDT

    Wolverine

    by kgerm

    Honestly, it's worse than X3 which is saying something. Damned if Hugh Jackman didn't try. Gambit isn't the total wash I thought he'd be but he shows up for the most ridiculous, pointless fight ever. And I'd be fine with Deadpool if they'd let any of the characters develop. Oh, and the 180 Sabretooth takes at the end = ludicrous. It's Wolverine without balls.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:32:48 PM CDT

    Easier to Understand then DK = Made for Morons

    by phaedrus007

    Tremendously more emotional = better turn off your brain or you'll pissed off.

    This movie is a shitbomb waiting to happen and we all know it. Nice try Fox.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:32:56 PM CDT

    Embrace It

    by autodidact

    Even though I haven't downloaded a movie since 2000 when I used to use the fucking Hotline network, The movie studios need to embrace the idea that most people treat downloading movies like a test drive. If they really like the movie they'll recommend it to friends, possibly buy the blu-ray or go check it out on the big screen. A lot of people treat it like free movies, yes, and those people generally don't spend a whole lot of money on their entertainment in the first place. Most people I know who download movies also have a huge stack of DVDs and Blu-rays..

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:34:43 PM CDT

    Wolvy 2

    by kgerm

    The opening running through all the wars was pretty decent.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:35:49 PM CDT

    Run and tackle 3X

    by jersquall

    Wolverine and his brother get this running start at eachother not once, not twice but three times in this movie. It was lame each time.
    X3 was better from this current mess. Hey don't hate! Fox's soon to be unimployed basically gave me the go ahead to see it. Let them take me to court. Harry is my witness!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:37:03 PM CDT

    Don't worry, Fox is collapsing from the inside as we speak.

    by the ghost of marcus brody

  • Apr 03, 2009 6:37:04 PM CDT

    Ah Harry

    by 2leggedfreak

    If I didn't know already that you were American, your total lack of understanding of the word irony on any level would be a give away. 1) Its Ironic that YOU are having a go at soembody for watching a rough draft 2) Friedmans article is in no way condoning the fact that you can download this stuff..you see he understands irony. Oh and Moriarty's angry is he...well that's a new one.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:37:12 PM CDT

    Something is up. the entire thing has been so fishy.

    by silverglade

  • Apr 03, 2009 6:41:07 PM CDT

    Economically encouraged

    by snm1266

    In this climate, the film studios have made it an economical reality to download movies. Why would I pay $20 for two people to see a new release movie in a theater when I can A) download it for free or B) wait 3 months and buy it for $16.99 and watch it in the comfort of my own home? With the availability of high quality home theater, why would anyone ever want to go to the theater again. I understand it is a totally different experience but the economics of it just sucks. And then if you get a family going, you might as well just kiss $100 bucks good-bye once you hit the concession stand. Who can afford to go the cinema anymore?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:42:02 PM CDT

    IF I'd seen Wolverine

    by cedar_room

    just like Fox News Doucheface, I would say it was OK at the beginning but unravels to a rather unsatisfying conclusion. Overall enjoyable but probably going to benefit from the re-shoots. Not that I would download a film in such a way because piracy clubs baby seals to death using cancer.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:42:34 PM CDT

    Fuck FOX

    by vini77

    24 and House are the only decent things coming out of Fox.

    Fuck them. I wouldn't care if the company went bankrupt.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:50:47 PM CDT

    The person who leaked Wolvernine was...

    by atalcot

  • Apr 03, 2009 6:51:33 PM CDT

    ...a spy for Warner Bros

    by atalcot

    Revenge for fucking with Watchmen

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:51:47 PM CDT

    Harry , your hypocrisy is astounding

    by bigbaldpapa

    Is it ok to post images from films "until they get pulled from the internets"?

    One of the main reasons I started coming here was the occasional juicy bit of spoilery material that is happened upon. You guys often post images or links to images that you admit that are not supposed to be for our viewing and will be taken down as soon as they are found. That you have no problem with. Where does the line get drawn? We all know of your hatred torwards anything conservative. We learned that this last election cycle with your less-than-inept political reporting. You are just taking this opportunity to spew venom at FOX when your website itself is guilty of hosting stuff that is not supposed to be meant for our consumption.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:54:49 PM CDT

    Friedman's a tool...

    by godzookys_dead

    ...and we all knew it the moment we read his "review".
    "Easier to understand" and "more emotional" the The Dark Knight... give me a god damn break!
    And he should be prosecuted the same way as anyone else downloading and watching the film.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:56:09 PM CDT

    I really don't care

    by juansanchez

  • Apr 03, 2009 6:56:19 PM CDT

    Reminds Me of Sid Rosenberg On Imus...

    by hauptman

    He got on a national radio show and proclaimed that he had an illegal DirecTV card that got him all the channels for free. DirecTV promptly sued him. Can't the studios do the same thing here?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:57:42 PM CDT

    That's funny...

    by kidcthulhu

    The stills I saw online supposedly from the reshoots are from scenes in the leaked version...from what I've been told anyways, heh.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:57:42 PM CDT

    I still haven't changed my mind...

    by wungolioth

    I'm skipping out on Wolverine because X-3 left a bad taste in my mouth, The whole Watchmen debacle, and generally I just dislike Fox. I might rent it on DVD.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:57:57 PM CDT

    MY THEORY

    by the insneider

    Gavin Hood leaked this shit himself. A copy with no watermark? Hmmm.... interesting. His reputation has been hurt with all the problems during production, so maybe he figured he had nothing to lose from leaking it online early. Maybe he did it to get back at the studio (which stands to lose millions... although I don't think it'll really hurt the box office that noticeably) that fucked with his movie. Funny how silent he's been through this whole incident. Like Proyas, I don't think he'll ever work for Fox again. Fuck 'em.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 6:58:15 PM CDT

    Easier to understand than DK = I'm a fucking retard.

    by fooku

    When there is no story of course it's easier to understand. What a fucking douchebag tool. How does someone that stupid get a job like that. And you're still a hypocrit Harry. You watched a workprint of AotC and reported on it so you really just need to stop talking.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:00:25 PM CDT

    Man is Fox bitter about Dark Knight.

    by jimmay

    Its deserved success and accolades apparently bother them to no end. It's not that hard, Fox. All you need to do is, wait for it, make a superhero movie that doesn't insult the viewers' intelligence. Is this really such an enigmatic formula?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:02:56 PM CDT

    Harry have you talked to...

    by nickn328

    Hugh Jackman about this? I know you two keep in informal communications, so I didn't know if either of you have talked to each other about it, it being a seemingly perfect discussion point given you refusing to run reviews.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:13:55 PM CDT

    this aint the same "fox" from the 1970s...

    by jimmyjoe redsky

    when they were just a movie studio - and alan ladd jr gave lucas what he needed to make a movie no other studio would touch

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:13:59 PM CDT

    When is the film actually getting released?

    by jackalcack

  • Apr 03, 2009 7:14:53 PM CDT

    Fucking hilarious!!!

    by gabba-uk

    Being from the UK I'm only vaguely aware of Roger Friedman and what he does on Fox. Sorry. But if he keeps his job after this..... then we know that he comes from the same school of career advancement as Rothman graduated from. He's sucked Murdoch's cock, gargled and swallowed...... Then went back and asked 'Please Sir, may I have some more.'

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:20:10 PM CDT

    well, yet another franchise ruined

    by i.baronvladimir

    because of a studio insisting on dumbing everything down for people. Why would a movie with Wolverine in it need a dozen or so more heroes alongside him and a dozen villains against him to make it work? Wolverine is interesting enough on his own, wasn't that the whole point of giving him his own movie? I am so fucking tired of multiple villains and multiple supporting characters in these films. One hero, one villain, for christ's sake. If you're going to have more you'd better know what the hell you're doing, because with the exception of TDK I can't think of a single superhero movie made better for more than 1 villain in it.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:21:17 PM CDT

    keep in mind who this guys intended audience is...

    by jimmyjoe redsky

    ... people that cant watch televised news unless all the female anchors look like porn stars - people that voted for bush twice - people that think obama is a muslim terrorist sympathizer that intends to wipe out capitalism and force people into fema camps after taking all of their guns - so who cares

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:22:14 PM CDT

    and Fox sucks

    by i.baronvladimir

  • Apr 03, 2009 7:22:43 PM CDT

    Friedman Just knew it was not worth paying for!

    by saen

    Though I will waste the $20 to watch it some lazy afternoon.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:22:56 PM CDT

    What the fuck was so hard to understand in TDK?

    by my_blue_penis

    Man, FOX is just awful.

    "The movie we need right now", what, because Box Office has been incredibly low? It's the highest it's been in a while...

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:24:31 PM CDT

    X-Men Origins: The Ragin' Cajun Gambit

    by jesiah

    Fox: Get to work on the above. Cut your losses on wolverine and get a hot blonde to play Belladonna, get Lacey Chabert to play Rogue, have a cameo by Anthony Hopkins as Magneto akin to what he did in MI2. Have it directed by Proyas, that way you can also kiss his ass for the anklegrabbing he had to endure during I Robot. If you get a decent director like Proyas saying the studio's changed for the better, it's a step in the right direction

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:24:52 PM CDT

    Harry..it's foxes property to do whatever the fuck they want wit

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

    YOu still don't have that through your thick fucking skull yet do you, you jackocrite..serioulsy, grow the fuck up man

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:25:33 PM CDT

    Remember when your site did shit you just said you wont do

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

    You are so full of fucking shit

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:25:38 PM CDT

    bigbaldpapa, the lines should be drawn at...

    by jimmyjoe redsky

    ... the unauthorized circulation of scripts and downloading entire unreleased films for free - im sure their are some other lines that need drawing - but the 2 i mentioned seem like big nonos to me

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:25:39 PM CDT

    "Slightly better than X-3"?

    by magnum opus

    Are you fucking serious? That movie, while pretty bad, was watchable. Wolverine is basically a 2 hour episode of Heroes, only with less depth and more by-the-numbers plotting. It's that bad.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:26:29 PM CDT

    Easier to understand then 'TDK"= I'm a complete moron.

    by evangelion217

    If you couldn't understand "TDK", then you're IQ is below 10. It's not hard to understand "TDK." And it's an extroadinary film. With that being said, Fox can eat all the dicks. I'm done with "Wolverine", and I'am not going to see it. I'll just save my money for "Terminator Salvation", and "Star Trek." I'll probably even see "Angels and Demons" at the matinee, for 6 bucks. :)

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:31:41 PM CDT

    clusterfuck

    by theexterminator

    this whole thing is just one big clusterfuck...what a joke

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:31:41 PM CDT

    when Joker showed up at the hospital

    by smackfu

    I was like 'whoooaaa...what the hell? He's a NURSE? The Joker works in the health sector? Why would he be working for measly nurse money when he can just rob banks...so confusing...AND he's dressed up like a woman. First he's dressed like a man, now he's dressed like a woman? Did he get a sex change? damn, this film is confusing'.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:31:49 PM CDT

    I heard that there will be a screening tommorow...

    by the dum guy

    Yep, the admission fee is only fifty cents, but all the money gathered will be given to orphans who have AIDS.I just say fuck Fox.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:32:11 PM CDT

    so it's still pretty much fuck off

    by logicalnoise01

    for everyone fucked over by magnet on "let teh right one in"? Harrty get your fucking priorities straight. easily over 100k people get fucked on a DVD you recommended and you don't say a fucking word. FOX gets pissy because of their inner workings and some fox affiliate decides to review it and it's the holocaust. Fuck you harry.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:33:15 PM CDT

    Intellectual Property: the cure is worse than the disease

    by dreamfasting

    The entertainment industry has created a culture in which snippits of sound, of pictures and story are the nouns and verbs with which we communicate. The Internet has blurred the line between conversation and publication. This has created a clash of culture between a business model and a communication medium.As much as I like films and music and all that the industry has created, if I have to choose between commercial entertainment and freedom of speech, I'll give up all the movies and the music. Copyright law and its enforcement is morphing into a draconian system that is worse than the disease it cures.
    *sigh* I hope that doesn't too much like a crazy-person anarchist rant. I still like my cool stuff to experience ... but just don't think the "property" model is going to work for entertainment much longer.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:35:02 PM CDT

    HI HUGH. : )

    by alice 13

    i think you will rock inwolverine and i cant wait to go see it. maybe you have a workout video you might be able to send harry for usto see how chiseled you are for the wolverine movie. that would be so awesome.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:37:43 PM CDT

    Irony 2

    by 2leggedfreak

    Harry you are now so scared of upsetting the staus quo with your buddies in movie land that you are more Corporate than the studios you used to generate cool news about.
    Fuck me, how long will it be before you are deriding some poor slob for having entertainment spies who give advance info on upcoming movies.
    Lord what a sell out

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:38:58 PM CDT

    a business model and a communication medium

    by manifestchaos

    that's deep. but then again i'm pretty stoned.fuck Fox

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:39:54 PM CDT

    everytime liev schrieber runs on all fours

    by strokerx

    should be taken out. Give gambit an accent. COMPLETELY redo Deadpool...and then talk to me.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:40:08 PM CDT

    F Fox

    by nivek666

    What a bunch of assholes.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:43:49 PM CDT

    Like I need their fucking permission.

    by brock landers baby

    Screw Fox.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:45:02 PM CDT

    smackfu

    by ravex

    nice... you made me laugh at 3am. that's quite an accomplishment.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:45:05 PM CDT

    I love it everytime Harry posts one of these

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

    His fat fucking hypocracy knows no boundaries anymore...oh sorry..oh and "fuck fox" (in my lemming retard drooling voice)..almost left that out

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:47:57 PM CDT

    HOw many Flops

    by phategod2

    can fox have before they go bankrupt

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:48:56 PM CDT

    hypocracy = a type of gland disorder?

    by the dum guy

  • Apr 03, 2009 7:49:30 PM CDT

    Streisand Effect

    by enderandrew

    If you try to shush something up, you just get publicity for it. Why not run damage control and run with it? If people are discussing the work print, then at least throw out a positive review and hope for the best.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:50:06 PM CDT

    "It exceeds expectations at every turn."

    by amazing maurice

    What. The. Fuck?

    I've watched the leaked version and I can safely say its one of the biggest loads of utter fucking shite I have seen in years.

    SERIOUSLY.

    It's a fucking fugly mess of a movie. And no amount of "extra scenes" and "finished FX" is going to save this.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:50:30 PM CDT

    JUST SELL THE FUCKING LICENSE BACK TO MARVEL

    by phategod2

    cause you halfwits don't know what to do with it.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:51:37 PM CDT

    Fox OBVIOUSLY DOESN'T care if you download the film

    by theghostwholurks

    So why are Harry & Co. getting on their holy-than-thou high horse and pooing those of us who do? Fox is simply laughing in your face at what such easier manipulated dupes you guys are.Who released this workprint for everyone to see? Fox did. It got a whole lot of free publicity for this film that didn't already exist and created hype for all new footage that people who've seen the workprint will STILL go to the theatres to see in order to compare and contrast with.This 'site is Hollywod's version of Pavlov's dogs and everyone knows it EXCEPT Harry. Sit Ubu, SIT! Good dog...

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:53:50 PM CDT

    "What's the point? It's old information."

    by indycollector

    Ummm...most of what is posted on this site as "news" is old information.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:54:58 PM CDT

    So Harry, where's the video of this D-bag?

    by ugh

    Did he say it live on tv or was it in print? Where is it?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:56:58 PM CDT

    deadpool got rapidly raped in the asshole

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    no amount of special fx and 14 mins of missing footage is gonna change what happens to him in the end. fuck you fox. fuck you rothman. i hope someone shoves a kinfe in your asshole and twists it around slowly but forcefully.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:56:59 PM CDT

    deadpool got rapidly raped in the asshole

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    no amount of special fx and 14 mins of missing footage is gonna change what happens to him in the end. fuck you fox. fuck you rothman. i hope someone shoves a kinfe in your asshole and twists it around slowly but forcefully.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:58:01 PM CDT

    sabertooth climbing that building by the way??

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    GOD FUCKING AWFUL

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:59:10 PM CDT

    The title alone keeps me from wanting to see it

    by indycollector

    X-Men Origins: Wolverine. What a lame fucking title. Just call it Wolverine for crap's sake. I'm surprised Fox isn't calling it XO: W. Does Fox honestly think when people go up to the box office they are going to say "One for X-Men Origins: Wolverine?"

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  • Apr 03, 2009 7:59:15 PM CDT

    I cant wait to see what Deadpool will

    by phategod2

    say about the movie yoiu he's going to comment on a future issue.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:00:19 PM CDT

    What wrong with how he climbed the wall???

    by theghostwholurks

    It brought back fond memories of the 1970s Spider-Man TV show. :)

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:00:52 PM CDT

    lol..who gives a fuck about Deadpool..

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

    Get a fucking life you fucking crybabies.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:01:10 PM CDT

    So now it's cool?

    by mavra chang

    We can say "Hey, we have reviews of this at www.mymavra.com." and everyhting is fine and dandy? Excellent!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:02:23 PM CDT

    I hear ya Jimmy Joe

    by bigbaldpapa

    I am a bigtime conservative and even I don't buy into all of the crap on FOX or anywhere else. It has been shown in the past that Harry is a big Lib (no pun intended) and he is salivating at the chance to bash right-leaning FOX for something yet on his own site he will post links to leaked scripts, images or whatever.

    It is pure hypocrisy at best.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:03:38 PM CDT

    Harry are you fucking serious

    by kenjinattix

    Do you honestly think these reshoots are gonna unfuck and unkill Deadpool? Because if they don't the movie sucks.

    Is the reshoots gonna unrelate Silver Fox to Emma Frost. Cuz if it doesn't the movie sucks.

    Is it gonna not have gambit be 10 years older than cyclops? Because if it doesn't the movie sucks?

    Is it gonna not have Sabertooth saving Wolverine? Because if it doesn't this movie will suck.

    AND SEEING THAT THE FUCKING COMMERCIALS STILL SHOW ALL THE STUPID SHIT WE SAW IN THE WORKPRINT, This movie will still suck. They could have a month of reshoots...unless they COMPLETELY CHANGE THE STORY AND ENDING...this movie WILL SUCK.

    Don't defend this shit Harry. Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:04:25 PM CDT

    I still love this site....

    by bigbaldpapa

    I just wish that politics (which this article is clearly about) would stay the fuck out.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:05:08 PM CDT

    Ain't It Hypocritical...

    by quantize

    The reason Harry etc get on their high horses is because it bypasses
    their 'role' as internet publicists..

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:07:37 PM CDT

    People are gonna download it anyway...

    by pissed off and bitter

    Even if they do see it in theaters. This movie's guaranteed to be number one, at least until Terminator comes out a few weeks later. Fox needn't worry, their collective asses are saved, hell, this could be a good move for them. Why not release screeners to the public like they do test screenings and have the people who watch them tell them what they do and don't like, everyone's a winner.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:08:04 PM CDT

    Who gives a Fuck about Wolverine

    by phategod2

    its 2009 He hasn't been irrelevet for years.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:09:06 PM CDT

    Fox is owned by Murdoch...

    by crankyoldguy

    A living excuse for wealth re-distribution if there ever was one. He's a shithole of human being and doesn't care about others anywhere, anyplace. He supports hate-mongering and class oppression (and I am not a socialiast before anyone tries to day it). But I am pissed off by people like him, a good part of the Fox upper echelon and of course, the hacker, including TV hacker who can fuck with any form of Fox news gets my applaude. Download it, copy it for friends, who cars at this point? If it's actually good, those that are inspired will go see it in the theater. And I might be one of them. But screw Fox nonetheless. And Friedman? Yet another moron as an entertainment jounralist." There are a ton of them. Can you say Billy Bush (what a fucking turd) and that haven't they glammed her up blonde on what is, it Access Hollywood, and Julie-panties-in-a-bunch-on-E (is she still one). And of course, one of the luckiest no-talents in Hollywood, Ryan Cheesecrest. Ugh.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:10:08 PM CDT

    What's So Hard To Understand About The Dark Knight?

    by thelordofhell

    A psychotic criminal with an unlimited stash of explosives and detonators and henchmen, robs a bank, wires two buildings to blow up, kidnaps a city prosecutor and his girlfriend, goes on a city wide chase and kills dozens of police just to get captured and put in a interagation room with the Batman, tells Batman about the two buildings he's going to blow up and who's in them, blows up the jail, blows up the buildings, makes sure the wrong person is rescued, makes sure that said wrong person is seriously injured and in a hospital, convinces said person that everything he has ever believed in is wrong and turns him into a villian, blows up hospital, burns untold millions of dollars, threatens to blow up more buildings, just so he can finally get the Batman, then gets beat up......that plot is so easy, even a caveman can write it.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:10:45 PM CDT

    I meant Relavent

    by phategod2

    You ask me Deadpool is a better character. Sadistic and funny beats Emo and angry all the time.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:11:30 PM CDT

    LOL fox is bitter about dark knight and not having watchmen

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    but hey, theyve got dragonball? oh nevermind they shitted on that as bad as they did on x-men! what about fantastic four?? oh even worse you say!! well thats too bad! maybe rothman will reboot them over and over until he finally gets it right, which is never!! die!!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:12:28 PM CDT

    Hey Crankyoldguy

    by indycollector

    Anyone who uses the phrase "class oppression" is a socialist. I "daid" it. Fuckin' Commie.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:13:09 PM CDT

    That's what I thought.

    by herb west

    That's exactly why I had no problem reviewing this work print at www.mymavra.com. For all we know, Fox leaked this themselves as a publicity stunt. Either way, it was the best thing that could have happened to this movie.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:15:26 PM CDT

    I have a Question:

    by codymr

    if Wolverine is a prequel to first XMen film, how is it Sabertooth does not recognize Logan when they meet on the snowed highway at the beginning of the second act in X1?

    Did I miss something in the workprint that explains this?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:15:29 PM CDT

    COLLECTOR...

    by crankyoldguy

    FUCK YOU until you've been thrown out of work one too many times, asshole. Pussy, I could kill you with my bare hands, I don't need your NRA gun, twit. But I'd kick you in the kidneys until you pissed blood. Big Bald and Revell too. Anytime, suck-ass.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:16:14 PM CDT

    but you wouldn't

    by crankyoldguy

  • Apr 03, 2009 8:16:43 PM CDT

    rothman doesnt understand tdk success

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    because all he sees is that the movie is over 90 mins, and to him theres no way it was a good movie!! must be shorter!! must cut budget in half!!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:20:07 PM CDT

    codymr-exactly whats wrong with this film

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    i knew they werent gonna explain that from the get go. if this was a star wars prequel lucas would say they knew each other through the force. but its not. so no one has a clue.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:22:28 PM CDT

    Karma for Watchmen fuckers.

    by jedirob

    Gonna watch and review on every blog tonight!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:23:51 PM CDT

    Did you watch the post Credit scene

    by phategod2

    I guess its alluding to a sequel in japan. But it was much lamer then the Nick Fury scene.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:26:25 PM CDT

    The truth about everything...

    by calrabjohns

    I know skepticism is alive in these here threads, but I (someone who lives in a Pennsylvania suburb) has a friend of a friend who is close to the production. Here's what happened: Fox, knowing they had many problems with the film intentionally put out the workprint counting on fanbays pointing out every problem in multiple reviews. This is how they'll use the original and reshoot footage to make the best product possible. I watched the workprint, and for everyone with eyes, the person viewing it could tell that no FX shots were really placed yet. Those that were are most likely placeholders for the real ones. So the budget hasn't really been tapped into yet. To Harry, Beaks and Moriarty---I think it sucks because you three supported them so much. If anyone should be angry, it should be you guys.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:26:45 PM CDT

    If Fox was smart....

    by redfive!

    They would tell everyone to download it becuase its not the finished film they will see in the theatres.And they would put The Avatar trailer attached to it.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:26:55 PM CDT

    And to the "I hate Rothman & Fox" crowd

    by ugh

    you are probably the same whiny bitches that said the same thing when Fox won the "Watchmen" settlement and how you were going to boycott Fox...then turned around and made the movie "Taken" a $137+ million domestic hit.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:27:46 PM CDT

    moral issues

    by gotilk

    Seriously, educate yourselves about the history of the press, media, recorded music, etc. I'm sure a lot of you are up on film, but there's a LOT of historical precedent that takes this so-called "morality" argument as it applies to intellectual property and the advancement of technology and communications and flushes it straight into the sewer from which it came. Where it BELONGS.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:28:14 PM CDT

    P.S.I Love how harrys...

    by redfive!

    all on his high horse about this.A dude who i heard use to sell bootlegs and im sure has watched many bootlegs in his life.What a f***en hipocrite.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:28:55 PM CDT

    But as an aside...

    by gotilk

    I wouldn't pull Friedman from a burning car if he was sitting on the fucking Mona Lisa.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:29:34 PM CDT

    Yeah, I called this the other day

    by cymbol

    Obviously a plant - no way someone working for Fox News would watch a downloaded/illegal copy of this movie and write a review on the website. It was so obviously damage control - and an INCREDIBLE insult to our intelligence.

    Just amazing. . .

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:30:52 PM CDT

    that diddling feeling you guys are feeling..

    by gotilk

    in the backs of your heads...it's a hand. (let it sink in)

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:35:22 PM CDT

    well...

    by cineninja

    ...now there's enough hypocrisy to go around....

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:38:18 PM CDT

    Phategod2

    by ravex

    what post credits scene are you talking about?
    only thing my version had was army picking up stryker after he's been walking (and, let's pretend our IQ is above 13, swimming) for days and arresting him for the murder of that general.
    though I agree that it was TOTALLY lame and unnecessary, I don't see what could it have to do with japan-bound sequel...

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:40:49 PM CDT

    EXPLAIN TO ME HOW PEOPLE LOSE THEIR JOBS

    by valentineproductions

    When you download a bootleg? Dont these people get paid when their jobs are done?
    I think it sucks when a person who works hard and earns whatever money they make, decides to take it easy one day and treats themselves and or their family to a night at the movies and then are dissapointed by what crap the movie turns out to be.
    I was someone waiting for this to be released and was planning on paying to see it. But the movie is shit and i'm glad i wont be spending my money now.Movies arent what they used to be.Even if a person has already seen a leaked film but enjoyed it, most likely their going to pay for it again anyway and buy the dvd.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:40:58 PM CDT

    Moral issue?

    by darthbakpao

    Harry, you're such an hypocrite

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:48:06 PM CDT

    Deadpool isn't that bad

    by kizeesh

    He's about as far removed from the comic character as Lady Deathstrike was in X-Men 2.
    The sad thing is he's bang on the money until about halfway through the movie, but when he re-appears as Deadpool he's just a pile of re-worked re-imagined bollocks. Why do that to such a great character? why didn't thy just invent someone. A 4th wall breaking comedic Deadpool would have been much more fun.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:50:10 PM CDT

    i thought the nick fury scene was bad

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    and not ven well thought out seeing as the first thing you see is the cameraman. i noticed that in theaters and laughed my ass off. that scene felt so out of place...anyway i thought the after credits scene in wolverine would be him drinkin in that bar he did in x1 but wolverine is way in the past though right? what year to be exact bcause shouldnt cyclops be fuckin old then by the time x1 came around...weird

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:50:23 PM CDT

    Reshoots

    by ptsdpete

    Are NOT going to motherfucking fix what they've apparently ' done ' with Deadpool. There's fucking ACTION FIGURES already, for crying out loud ! ). The story and direction IS the problem. Almost nobody is even talking about the damn effects ! Word is this stuff is so wretched it makes the unfinished stuff LOOK GOOD. And why did that son-of-a-bitch shill felt like LAMBASTING THE DARK KNIGHT to prop up this bullshit ? Looks like a thousand more downloaders coming in for the next 45 minutes....

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:51:24 PM CDT

    ryan reynolds was perfect for the part

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    until the raping of deadpool took place

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:53:30 PM CDT

    Has anyone been prosecuted for downloading & watching Wolverine?

    by amy chasing

    Or was it only the person who leaked it? Or the server(s) that originally hosted it? Has anyone been prosecuted over this? And once it's on the torrent networks, can anyone still be prosecuted? Does anyone know?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 8:57:55 PM CDT

    There was another scene

    by phategod2

    Although it might have been from X-3 cause the credits in mine were from X-3 b ut the Stryker scene was first then after the credits you see Wolverine in a japanese Bar saying to bar maid that he's "Drinking to Remember..." fade to black.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:06:40 PM CDT

    Phategod2

    by herb west

    Yeah, at first it looked like the bar Wolvie was in at the beginning of X-Men 1. I had the credits for X3 too, I thought that was weird.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:07:35 PM CDT

    version I saw also had X3 credits

    by ravex

    but no logan in japan scene.
    huh, guess now I have a reason to go and watch it when it hits theaters... /end sarcasm
    btw, not really sure if this is new or not (I haven't seen it yet), but imdb has TF2 roll call posted: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3175385856/tt1055369

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:07:56 PM CDT

    The whole admantium lab should be re-done

    by eclipse7015

    The 13 part comic story by Barry Windsor-Smith was fantastic. To take that whole series and make it literally 5 minutes in a film is criminal. 5 minutes to explain how he got adamantium and escape???? What are they thinking?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:08:41 PM CDT

    I don't think Deadpool is

    by series7

    Even in the movie anymore. I mean they don't mention his name in the laundry list of all the different characters that are going to be in the movie. He doesn't have a link on the site, I'm pretty sure they just cut him out or made him some normal dude. That or Fox is trying to act like Deadpool is some big surprise since his Comic is so popular right now.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:09:03 PM CDT

    this just proves my point

    by oisin5199

    Only giant douchebags pirate films.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:10:10 PM CDT

    I think they can only improve the movie...

    by fuckmichaelbay

    ...it was pretty good even in that raw form.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:10:38 PM CDT

    Does anyone really listin to Fox news?

    by series7

    Oh whats that? Really? Number 1 cable news station. Wow I guess we are a dumb nation.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:11:18 PM CDT

    Series7

    by fuckmichaelbay

    There is no way he's not in it anymore. Deadpool is definitely in it.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:12:39 PM CDT

    If you think thats bad

    by series7

    The fucking theater down the street had on their internet schedule and on the billboard that Conan was playing there on Thursday night! BUT no fucking Wednesday was the last day. Fucking liars I missed it. I missed the chance to see one of the best movies ever on the big screen. FUCK. Now that's a travesty.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:14:28 PM CDT

    the final version w be MUCH BETTER

    by cenobite

    Even I could edit this into a better film.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:15:18 PM CDT

    Friedman is a piece of shit and so is Fox

    by wash

    Friedman has bee righting crap columns for years. He's Fox's useful idiot.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:16:59 PM CDT

    Yeah,

    by herb west

    I don't see how they could take the whole Deadpool character out with only a couple of weeks of reshoots.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:17:14 PM CDT

    All I want to know is if the reshoots fixed Deadpool

    by pornking

    I haven't seen the movie yet, but I heard the same things Harry did about how horrible Deadpool's portrayal is. If Harry's talked to the producer, what does he say?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:20:22 PM CDT

    @VALENTINEproductions

    by phaedrus007

    People lose their jobs because if the bootlegging cuts into the profitability of the movie the studios are less inclined to make similar investments in the future and thus the people who work on it will have less opportunity to work. Yeah, it won't happen because a few bootlegs on one film, but just go ask anyone in (what's left of) the music industry about what bootlegs can do to your industry and livelihood.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:21:03 PM CDT

    DL at your own risk

    by melvin_pelvis

    http://tinyurl.com/dk7k8d
    "FBI Seizes All Servers In Dallas Data Center"
    "FBI agents have raided a Dallas data center, seizing servers at a company called Core IP Networks. The company's CEO has posted a message saying the FBI confiscated all its customer servers, including gear belonging to companies that are almost certainly not under suspicion. The FBI isn't saying what it's after, but there are reports that it's related to video piracy, sparking unconfirmed speculation that the probe is tied to the leaking of Wolverine."

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:22:08 PM CDT

    Questions

    by herb west

    I have no idea of Deadpool outside of this work print. Was there ever a time in the comics that he had all the powers of the mutants like Torch in FF2? Was he ever a zombie terminator?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:23:38 PM CDT

    Hmmm, I wonder....

    by the dum guy

    When will the DVD riffs hit the street?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:26:32 PM CDT

    Deadpool

    by phategod2

    Joined Weapon X because he had Terminal Cancer They gave regenerative Property, and Agility like Wolverine and Teleportaion. He's like joke Character he's very funny and he often Breaks the 4th wall Meaning he talks to the audience and knows he's just a comic book character.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:28:05 PM CDT

    Also he's horribly disfigured

    by phategod2

    and his face is always covered.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:31:04 PM CDT

    SO FOX'S OWN PEOPLE ARE PIRATING MOVIES

    by chaimbensexyback

    Paramount needs to sic the FBI on Fox. Fuck Fox.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:31:49 PM CDT

    Trust me...no matter what they say...

    by wacko3205

    This is the worst possible movie they could have made. It is terrible...they ruined Deadpool, Gambit is about as Cajun as a Bojangle's biscuit, the dialogue is so ridiculous that it is worthy of Dawson's Creek fame (yeah I've seen the Creek!!!), & I shit you not...it's 10 times worse than X3. They explain erasing Logan's...scuse me Jimmy's memories with an adamantium bullet to the brain. What is he? A gotdam werewolf by default or some shit. No lie...it's pathetic.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:32:38 PM CDT

    Melvin_Pelvis

    by herb west

    Holy Fuckin Shit. Did you read this?

    Simpson closed his online letter with the statement, "If you run a datacenter, please be aware that in our great country, the FBI can come into your place of business at any time and take whatever they want, with no reason."

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:35:43 PM CDT

    phaedrus007

    by amy chasing

    and yet the music industry is still going. Especially now that they've essentially embraced stuff like iTunes and having online stores (which most people use).

    We could do the usual back and forth with this argument, but it's been done to death. The big question is does the industry think prosecuting people will help, or will changing the way they market and make-available their products be better for business? My perspective: making things illegal has never stopped people from doing it.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:36:05 PM CDT

    MAYBE SOMEONE WAS UPLOADING KIDDIE PORN ONTO CORE IP SERVERS

    by chaimbensexyback

    I highly doubt they would shut down the whole data center and confiscate so many servers over a Wolverine workprint.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:36:39 PM CDT

    Phategod2

    by herb west

    So what was the whole deal with the embalming process? Is he only the walking dead in the movie/work print?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:37:38 PM CDT

    OMFG DEADPOOL TALKS TO THE AUDIENCE?!?!?

    by chaimbensexyback

    Tell me you're joking!!! BWEAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHA!!!!!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:37:57 PM CDT

    Oh...& about Deadpool...

    by wacko3205

    One of the most amazing parts of the movie is the small amount of screen time that has to do with Ryan Reynolds as Wade Wilson.

    Reynolds busts into his scene full of the normal banter & cockiness that we’ve all come to love from Deadpool. He comes out with two razor edged samurai swords & the reflexes to deflect & slice bullets in half as he wire flips from floor to ceiling.

    While a lot of the action is 100% neck breaking near orgasmic fun…the film is constantly compromised by some of the most ridiculous dialogue you may ever hear. That being said…the acting is top notch for such bullshit dialogue.

    No lie...one of the most laughable points of the film (& there are many) comes from a Wilson & Stryker scene. Just prior to a free for all Stryker tells Wade Wilson that “If you didn’t have that mouth on you, Wade, you’d be the perfect assasin.”

    Now while that doesn’t sound so bad…the end of the film reveals a newly made Weapon 11/aka: Wade Wilson/aka: Deformed Deadpool with a stitched up mouth courtesy of William Stryker. The irony is almost stomach turning…but if that aint enough…try Wolverine going to war with said mouth less baddie only to spout out “Well Wade…I see Stryker finally shut you up!” Oh my.

    Out pop the samurai swords from his wrists like Wolvie's claws & they battle to the near death...with Wolvie on the losing end only to be saved by Sabertooth who belts out : "Brother's look out for each other!"

    CORNY LIKE A COB!!!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:39:07 PM CDT

    Friedman's a catty hack

    by charlie_allnut

    He routinely refers to movies starring people he doesn't like as "bombs" even if they make 100 plus million dollars. I was shocked as well when I read his column, Fox needs to have a consistent message on this, either its ok or its not.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:39:23 PM CDT

    They will never stop online piracy.

    by herb west

  • Apr 03, 2009 9:41:40 PM CDT

    Why fuckup Deadpool like that?

    by fiester

    Doesn't anyone at Fox realize how popular the character is? That is handled correctly they could have a really fun, smart, surreal,crazy action franchise featuring Deadpool?

    And why does Fox have Deadpool anyway? Where's the line between which characters they own and which belong to Marvel? Does Fox own the rights to every mutant ever to appear in a Marvel comic?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:42:20 PM CDT

    ChaimBenSexyback

    by herb west

    Yeah, no shit. There has to be something more to it than that.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:42:39 PM CDT

    Herb West

    by melvin_pelvis

    I'm sure they had a reason, and it will probably come out in the future.
    They're probably in the process of an audit trail to find out who the original seeders were and who was providing tracking.
    I bet the FBI followed a trail there, went there asking for info on who owned what servers.
    Data center guy said something like *this is America and I don't have to tell you*
    FBI goes and gets some supeonas, cam back and seized everything but the wall sockets.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:42:45 PM CDT

    LINK WAS PULLED FROM FOX NEWS - WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

    by buzzdiggity

    i just went to fox news and saw that the link was pulled ... seems like this totally complicates the situation... i mean, why in the world would Fox (Studio) post a favorable review and take it down - dont say such that they could get the attention of AICN (though I love AIC) .... THIS WAS CLEARLY NOT a ploy for positive word of mouth.. if it was, it sucked. i think this is just a case of fox news being a little too fair and balanced (*cough) for their own good.

    and btw, i am now f-ing pumped to see this movie!!!!!!!!

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  • some of the moronic excuses you people come up with for justifying stealing shit is laughable. just admit you want shit or free and no one can stop you. and if any of you fuckers say "i buy the movie that i pirated if its good" is full of shit and i will call you a liar to your fucking face.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:45:25 PM CDT

    And

    by melvin_pelvis

    the kiddie porn aspect is also a possibility, as is terrorists sites.
    We just don't have all the info yet.
    Hopefully some reporter will stay on the story and keep us informed.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:46:39 PM CDT

    Melvin_Pelvis

    by herb west

    Yeah, I can totally see that happening. Still fucked up though.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:47:06 PM CDT

    No way is this leak a rouse

    by magnum opus

    Seriously. If you'd seen this cut you'd know that Fox wouldn't want ANYONE to see this debacle.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:47:44 PM CDT

    Maybe he wants to get fired

    by cherryvalance

    so he can get stimulus money? *shrug*

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:49:31 PM CDT

    this is getting repetitive

    by donkeyskills

    It's fine that you play by the rules and try not to incur the wrath of the industry people that feed you occasional exclusives, but whining about other people not following the rules just smacks of sour grapes.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:52:51 PM CDT

    I thought that was Ryan Reynolds...

    by moonlightdrive

    in the trailer. Casting him in an action/comic book movie is a joke.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:54:46 PM CDT

    One shill commenting on another ...

    by dawgscribe96

    C'mon, Harry. After the Beaks ban and the AOTC re-memories from users on this site, wouldn't it be better if you just sat on the sidelines, shut the heck up and waited for that next press junket to a crap film whose stars you always wanted to hobnob with? This site was better when it was a collection of outsiders looking in. Now you're just another sprocket in the corporate wheel. Cheers.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 9:55:27 PM CDT

    Wolverine R5 releases May 28 in Russia so..,

    by fooku

    A theater cut will be released with English audio sometime before or just after May 28th 2009.

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  • And also FREE test market research. And yeah, that Fox "review" was a new low. It was pathetic even by Fox standards.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:03:00 PM CDT

    Anyway...

    by herb west

    If anybody gets bored of this shit they should check out www.mymavra.com. It's the website about 20 of us talkbackers started. We're always looking for more contributors if you have what it takes.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:03:11 PM CDT

    HerbW

    by phategod2

    I think that was for the movie where they giving him Adamantium but HE does not have Adamantium in his bones or swords in his Knuckles or Ruby based laser Vision. Ryan Reynolds was perfect casting they just underused him.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:08:31 PM CDT

    I want a Beaver movie instead. wolverines are lame

    by bmacsmith

    Wynona's Big Brown One.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:09:33 PM CDT

    but seriously, is this the Red Dawn sequel i've heard about?

    by bmacsmith

    WOLVERINES!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:10:23 PM CDT

    Eat shit Friedman

    by kafka07

    everything Fox touches turns to shit. I'm skipping this movie and seeing Star Trek.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:10:36 PM CDT

    Interesting

    by herb west

    But could he cut apart and deflect flying bullets with his sword? That is the question.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:11:40 PM CDT

    Is it just me or is...

    by mainman2001

    Sasha Grey not only one of the hottest chicks in porno but anywhere. I just found out her two greatest influences in life are Godard and David Bowie!! I love this girl.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:11:59 PM CDT

    Herb West I'm not sure if he could or not but

    by fooku

    Deadpool is fucked with a broken off broomstick in this movie.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:13:44 PM CDT

    BALLS OUT!

    by ass lesson

    Funniest script I've read in a LONG time. Some pretty big writers think so too. Check it out at www.therobotard8000.com

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:22:59 PM CDT

    Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool...

    by wacko3205

    Anyone that see's this smokin' butterbean encrusted turd of a flick will most likely suckit up & admit that Reynolds was perfect casting for the Wade Wilson role & would have nailed a legit Deadpool bit. Deadpool's a bit of a cocky joker...& Reynolds pulls that out all natural. The few lines that he uttered & that snarky smirk he wore for the duration of the film was perfect. They should have let Deadpool be Deadpool & not turned him into a sword popping deformed version of a Wolverine/Mimic mash up. This film could have been fantastic & they could have banked a good Deadpool movie or franchise start...had they not decapitated him. What a waste.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:24:33 PM CDT

    "I thought that you were my moon...& I was your Wolverine..."

    by wacko3205

    LAMEST LINE EVER!!!

    NUFF SAID.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:24:52 PM CDT

    AVATAR NEWS: (SPOILERS)

    by my_blue_penis

    So the Fast and Furious chick was talking in an interview and revealed she dies in the end...hey, it's something right? Where the hell are the posters for this thing?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:27:26 PM CDT

    Harry you actually expect us to believe...

    by obese_wan_kenobi

    That you haven't watched this? Please, we aren't all dumb, naive Texans.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:30:08 PM CDT

    UM, HELLLLOOOO... FOX KILLED THE LINK! NOT A PLOY

    by buzzdiggity

    http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_ezine&task=read&page=1&category=1&article=6634

    wake up commenters! obviously not a ploy

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:34:12 PM CDT

    FOUND A LINK HERE

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

    haha..as all you "fuck Fox" douchebags open the comment.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:35:39 PM CDT

    It was reviewed on http://lagtv.com last night.

    by orionsangels

  • Apr 03, 2009 10:37:09 PM CDT

    So did it NUKE THE FRIDGE ?

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 03, 2009 10:38:58 PM CDT

    WHAT HAVE THEY DONE TO MY WOLVIE!!!?!?!?!?!

    by chaimbensexyback

    Wolvie!!!! NOOOOOOOOO!!!!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:42:53 PM CDT

    Fire Friedman

    by thusspakespymunk

    Harry - they ought to fire the guy. It's repulsive.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:48:37 PM CDT

    It Nuked the Fridge

    by phategod2

    Jumped the Shark, Saved the Cheerleader, And screwed the pooch.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:51:19 PM CDT

    In the Video game He could delfect bullets

    by phategod2

    not sure about the comic. another good Deadpool related Comic is Agent X good stuff.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:52:34 PM CDT

    Right, Harry. You "heard" fans say.........

    by kai_mah'gra

    Because as we all know, you haven't "watched" it yourself, and don't "think" it's wretched. You only "heard" people say it was.Right.

    Someone please remind me, again, is it hypocrisy or irony when one corporate shill uses his site to lambast another corporate shill for shilling on his own playing field?
    And of course Harry, we also "really" believe you when you state that the only reason you wouldn't allow reviews is because you care about all those crew members who stand to lose from this movie losing money from the leak. I mean, why else would you make sure to let us know that the word of mouth so far (as far as you've "heard", anyway) for this leak is.......what was the word again?....Wretched? I'm sure the crew is loving that. Mmmmm........Shilling......it tastes real good.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:52:55 PM CDT

    Two news stories about this?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Is this worth the hype?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:54:37 PM CDT

    Oh My!

    by raystevensonwarzone

    Has this offended thy delicate sensibilities?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:54:49 PM CDT

    Just cause they decapitated him doesn't

    by bottombrick

    make him dead. Deadpool has been ripped to pieces, returned to his clients in a box via UPS, and blown to fuck before he could still grow back. Seriously though, tell me more about how they fuck up Deadpool he was my favorite character

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:55:14 PM CDT

    Him and Magneto, who they made geriatric

    by bottombrick

  • Apr 03, 2009 10:55:25 PM CDT

    Hey Magnum Opus?

    by bootskin

    What the fuck is a rouse?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:57:17 PM CDT

    Herb West

    by bootskin

    Sorry man. I like your moxie, but the two positive reviews on your site for this movie makes anything you have to say completely invalid.
    Fuck yeah I saw it. And it sucked. Bad.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 10:58:24 PM CDT

    fiester

    by rufferto

    I can't answer your question but Marvel is supposedly "pitching" Cable so Fox doesn't own that. Yeah it makes no sense. Incidentally that would make one awful movie.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:04:15 PM CDT

    I loved the workprint

    by gregoryharbin

    It needs a lot of work, sure, but I've confident they've done that work. I really look forward to seeing the finished film in theaters.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:06:11 PM CDT

    They Sewed his mouth shut

    by phategod2

  • Apr 03, 2009 11:09:13 PM CDT

    Roger Friedman has written a confession of a crime...

    by leafar the lost

    ...so FOX must alert the authorities and have this man immeaditely arrested for downloading a pirated movie. There can be no exceptions and no mercy.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:12:13 PM CDT

    BMacSmith

    by gotilk

  • Apr 03, 2009 11:12:50 PM CDT

    Marvel hates Fox, too!

    by zardoz

    Marvel wants the license back on the X-Men so bad. They hate X3 and Wolvie, too...

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:13:31 PM CDT

    sewig is mouth shut seems like a pretty goog gag

    by bottombrick

    he is kind of like a stooge or ash from evil dead, except the gags can go a little further cause you can gore the hero, slapsticky shtick like sewing his mouth shut would be funny, does it suck because he is just completely humorless for the rest of the movie after that?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:14:42 PM CDT

    Zardoz

    by phategod2

    How do you know. Not That I dont believe But I actually love to hear what Marvel Actualy feels about How Fox and Sony have used there licensed characters.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:16:44 PM CDT

    he only has 2 scenes

    by phategod2

    When it's revealed he's "The Big Bad" he mouth is gone and there absolutely no more humor exuding from him of course cause cant talk he's basicly Night crawler, Wolverine, and Cyclops rolled into one.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:18:26 PM CDT

    this must be a joke

    by robertcrane

    There is no way in fucking hell 14 or 20 minutes could change what I have seen of this steaming pile of shit. Wolverine living in 1845? His brother is Sabretooth? Bone claws? What the fuck is going on? Did some 12 year old grab the camera and start filming? And what they did to Deadpool had to be a joke. Why would Hugh Jackman sign off on this unless that check was cashed and he bought his G5 already?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:19:53 PM CDT

    i loled hard at smackfu's post about being confused...

    by warcraft

    at what the joker was doing at the hospital dressed like a female nurse. that was some funny fucking shit.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:24:25 PM CDT

    Bootskin

    by herb west

    I did like the movie, as an unfinished product, but you can plainly see I said it wasn't a great movie and pointed out the worst parts of it. It was way better than what I expected it to be. If you didn't like it, I can understand why, but that's the whole point of sharing information and opinions. Your statement about my opinions being invalid just because I reviewed it doesn't make any sense at all and you know it.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:27:03 PM CDT

    Well Actually

    by phategod2

    Wolverines Real name is Jame Howelett, we was born in the mid 1800's and he did think Sabertooth was brother for a time. this revealed the origin comic that came out 2 years ago.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:29:49 PM CDT

    Amy Chasing

    by phaedrus007

    Yes the music industry is still going, but it is a fraction of what it once was. Things like Itunes have kept alive, but it's more like life-support than actual life. I didn't actually mean to treat the issue of whether making something illegal stops someone from doing it (does anyone alive really believe it does?) --- I was just responding to someone who asked that the connection between bootlegging and the loss of jobs be explained. Cheers.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:34:35 PM CDT

    I find Fox's behavior

    by my_blue_penis

    really funny. When are they firing this guy?

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:38:31 PM CDT

    Even Fox's press releases are poorly written. . .

    by jimmay

    "Whether the review is good or bad" is a poor choice of wording. Upon first reading, it inspires confusion as to whether their opinion stands whether the review was positive or negative towards their movie, or if they mean whether the review was well or badly written.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:39:46 PM CDT

    Awww Jes. Sus Wept.

    by herb west

    I just noticed the update. Do we really need any more self righteous melodrama about this? All this does is prove my point that the free publicity they are now getting because of this whole fiasco is priceless.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:40:44 PM CDT

    The ending with Wolverine in Japan...

    by theghostwholurks

    Is at the VERY END of the workprint after the slapped-on X-3 credits. AFTER the 2nd ending with Stryker walking on the road being stopped by the MPs.So, the film ends, WOLVERINE credits start rolling, Stryker clip, X-3 credits roll and at the END of the X-3 credits, a scene with Wolverine in a Japanese bar with a barmaid in heavy "geisha" makeup who looks about as Asian as Kristen Kreuk. In other words, not very Asian.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:41:33 PM CDT

    'Agree with Moriarty" ?!???!!

    by maxthesilent

    Fuck you, fat cunt!! Moriarty actively encouraged people to download a leaked workprint of THE HULK a few years ago. Do you forget that!?! Then ban me you hypocritical cunt. This shit has been AICN's bread-and-butter since it began. You fat corporate whore!!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:42:38 PM CDT

    I like the righteous indignation from Harry and Moriarty

    by photoman

    You know both of these guys have seen the workprint...in fact this entire site was built on the leaked info and scripts and things of that nature. It's only when Harry and the other guys here were smooooozed by the studios and then made their bitches that they started this indignation bullshit. I'm not condoning the piracy or downloading this at all, just calling bullshit to these guys hypocrisy. I mean, come on...

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:48:54 PM CDT

    I Told You This Was A Publicity Stunt By Fox!

    by media messiah

    They were, and are, just looking to get some media attention for Wolverine, hence they leaked it themselves, and pretended to be victims!

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:49:10 PM CDT

    In other news, FOX news rewrites history and censors itself

    by the shyster

    not saying they're the only web-site/cable channel that does this, but at least CNN & MSNBC make their mistakes & retractions visible

    FOX is intent on rewriting their own history, especially when guys like Freidman, or even O'Reilly or Beck, stick their feet in their collective mouths.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:49:51 PM CDT

    Hypocrites? Really?

    by phaedrus007

    For all of those lashing out at Harry and Moriarity as hypocrites because in the past they've reviewed work prints and now condemn it... have you never considered that maybe they've just grown up a little and learned from their mistakes? A hypocrite a person who isn't practicing what they preach... but I always thought that those things had to misalign at the same time... A guy drinking a beer who says that drinking beer is bad is a hypocrite. But a recovered alcoholic trying to warn you from making the same mistakes he did... not so much. Do you all really believe that people can't... you know... change their minds about things? Evolve morally? Forget it... I forgot where I was for a moment there... continue mindless ravings.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:52:16 PM CDT

    going to the theater is a shitty experience

    by haterofcrap

    people on cell phones, people with their babies...people with bad breath, people with gas... people talking...people jamming you in between them....loud breathing...once a kid fucking fell asleep on my shoulder... so creepy. im not saying steal movies, but a new method of delivery should be devised.

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:52:59 PM CDT

    Oh wait, what's this? Hey, it's the review. Well, lookee here...

    by the shyster

    http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3306/
    fuckfoxwolverine.jpg

    as always, just hit backspace where needed (in front of fuck ;)

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  • Apr 03, 2009 11:54:07 PM CDT

    Yours, through the magic of cached pages & digital trails

    by the shyster

    Eat it, Rothman.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:00:21 AM CDT

    Fire the prick

    by aversiontherapy2

    If not for the act of downloading the film then just for being so stupid as to admit it on a Fox web site. What a moron.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:03:29 AM CDT

    The Shyster

    by herb west

    Good job, man.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:04:06 AM CDT

    Not sure this has ANYTHING to do with FOX News...

    by theghostwholurks

    But it sounds like Shyster's upset that FOX News has been kicking CNN and MSNBC's collective butts for the past several years, regardless of who's in charge up in Washington.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:08:28 AM CDT

    hey folks, Harry here!

    by harryknowles_hemorrhoidslapband

    You people calling me a hypocrite are redundant.
    You should all know by now that I'm just a studio asskisser with not an ounce of integrity in his fat bloated body, but not a hypocrite! And good luck getting me to admit to it here! Oh sure, I'll pop in talkbacks once in a while with my fancy black box to answer some trivial comments, but I never have the balls to do it when the idiots that populate the talkbacks call me out on my corporate sellout bullshit. Meanwhile, have a great weekend, and I hope you all enjoy the next amusing and informative video of the lovable Scriptgirl!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:12:50 AM CDT

    Easier to understand than DK?

    by creative1

    Anyone that had difficulty understanding The Dark Knight should be allowed to review a movie. Hell, they should be allowed to SEE a movie.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:16:22 AM CDT

    Fox should have nothing to worry about

    by lord elric

    After giving this guy his sign.

    Seriously, I don't know what's going on with Deadpool, but everything I've seen on this looks absolutely terrific! Seriously, the WOLVERINE parts look fantastic!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:18:32 AM CDT

    RobertCrane about 1845 and Bone Claws.

    by fooku

    Both of those things are canon in the comic book. Wolverine is old as hell and I think the bone claws came from when Magneto stripped the adamantium off of his body although it seems like he only had two bone claws.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:19:30 AM CDT

    MaxTheSilent

    by therealmoriarty

    You are 100% wrong. It was the other way around. I refused to publish any reviews of the "Hulk" workprint, too, and got called names for it then as well. But keep pretending you know something you don't, little boy. It's cute.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:19:46 AM CDT

    Creative1

    by em_tee_em

    Please tell me you misunderstand the difference between should and shouldn't in your comment.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:19:48 AM CDT

    Lord Elric this movie is a fucking turd.

    by fooku

    I don't know what you've seen but this movie fucking sucks and would only be better if they re-wrote it and reshot the whole fucking movie.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:22:02 AM CDT

    Hey Moriarty admit that you've all seen this workprint.

    by fooku

    Because we know most if not all of you have. Either way this movie is gonna tank and hopefully Marvel can get the rights to these characters back.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:22:28 AM CDT

    this could't be a ploy to spur interest.. no, never!

    by murdermostfowl

    Geez, I know a bunch of people are calling this faux news, but the only thing I want to add is that of course the statment that Beaks was given from Fox is patently false about the relationship between the two companies

    They're both subsidiaries of News Corp, and there can be no doubt that one receives direct advertising revenue from the other and vice versa with broadcast rights. I was going to compare it to NBC and GE, but GE actually has real products in other business sectors. ANy news is good news, right FOX?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:23:33 AM CDT

    And yet TheRealMoriarty

    by em_tee_em

    You guys never actually have the fucking integrity to actually address the fact that publish test screening revies, script reviews, early screenings, etc.You fucking beg for scripts in articles that are posted then review them then say I'm not going to discuss this plot twist because you, the pathetic reader, should see it as intended in the finished product because although our entire careers are based upon seeing, reading, and judging things in advance what's good for the goose is definitely not good for the gander. Come down off your fucking high horse.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:24:06 AM CDT

    AICN are a bunch of complete fucktards

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

    then how about AICN staff being brought up on charges for every photo they posted that was leaked, or script or ANYTHING...you fucking people are all retarded.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:24:28 AM CDT

    Wow

    by em_tee_em

    I need to change the batteries in my wireless keyboard apparently.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:24:44 AM CDT

    If people see the workprint a boycott won't be necessary.

    by fooku

    Because no one would pay to see 15 more minutes of this shitty movie.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:25:59 AM CDT

    THIS FUCKING WEBSITE WAS BUILT ON SHIT LEAKING

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 12:26:39 AM CDT

    My typos aside

    by em_tee_em

    None of that changes the fact that you are indeed a hypocrite Drew. Harry makes you look like you have integrity and Beaks... well that dude is just a giant douchebag.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:32:23 AM CDT

    I apologize...

    by em_tee_em

    ...for posting like 4 times in 5 minutes and, again, for posting at all because we all know Harry, Drew, Eric, and the rest have no leg to stand on, but will never honestly confront their own hypocrisy.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:33:49 AM CDT

    It's only OK if it leaks to the elite movie news sites.

    by fooku

    Here's the deal AICN and McWeeny. The movie got leaked and it fucking sucks. If it were a good movie people would pay to see the finished product. Since it's shit people will either see the workprint or here the bad buzz from people who did. This can only be good news as they might lose enough money to let the rights revert to Marvel. It's win-win.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:36:09 AM CDT

    damage control

    by cifra

    they can't fire Friedman who obviously was told to write that piece... if they fire him, they'll run into bigger shit. And noone that truly love movies wouldn't be interested in watching that workprint and then compare it to the final result. But obviously, they should watch it AFTER the finished product.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:37:02 AM CDT

    Let's talk about the economy

    by the dum guy

  • Apr 04, 2009 12:37:11 AM CDT

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but...

    by yorickfinn

    If Fox is telling the truth that Mr. Friedman is a freelancer, not an employee, then calls for Fox to fire him are unnecessary. Prosecute him, sure. Make an example of him, absolutely. But you don't fire a freelancer. You just stop using him. Maybe that's splitting rhetorical hairs, but if we're going to be angry and demand changes, let's make them rational ones.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:40:22 AM CDT

    AICN - McCarthyism at its best

    by loosejerk

    I don't care who the fuck watched a dl'd movie and reviewed it...if AICN published it, they'd protect him. Calling for his job? You guys are the finest of douches. Where is the Cartuna image of Harry with the "I Heart McCarthy" in the upper left-hand corner?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:41:30 AM CDT

    TheRealMoriarty

    by harryknowles_hemorrhoidslapband

    you, sir, need to shut the hell up and go back to writing your lame articles for your lame non-AintItCool site.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:43:49 AM CDT

    "Moriarty just rang me up spitting and pissing mad"

    by balzacs_ballsac

    That D-Bag has serious anger issues. Get over yourself, McWeeny nobody cares if you've gotten your knickers into a bunch (AGAIN!) trying desperately to inject your enormous bloated ego into every hot-button, attention-getting issue that comes down the tube, you self-righteous wanker.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:44:45 AM CDT

    I DOWNLOADED IT AND FOX WILL NEVER GET ANOTHER CENT OFF ME!!!

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    Rupert Murdoch is a modern day William Randolph Hearst, a tycoon who has used his status as a media baron to pollute the USA with nothing but right wing lies on Fox News which isn’t a news organization but a propaganda machine for the Republican party, their warping of the truth and subversion of democracy. As for 20th Century Fox, it’s no wonder that the studio is tanking when it’s being run by the same type of frat boys like the one that stole the 2000 election and ran the worlds economy into the fucking shitter. So, download Wolverine, burn it to disk, give copies out and that goes for every fucking movie that Fox puts out. Do whatever you can to fuck over this studio, the retarded monkey’s that run it and the fascist cocksucker who owns it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:45:56 AM CDT

    So Moriarty...

    by maxthesilent

    You DIDN'T post the link to where people could download the HULK workprint. Lying cunt!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:47:50 AM CDT

    You want to know why Fox is "On top" in cable news ratings?

    by robstar

    Because people like to be afraid!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:57:23 AM CDT

    What the fuck is wrong with you guys?

    by one_guy_from_andromeda

    Jesus, i'm really getting pissed off at you guys, especially Beaks. You basically want to see a guy FRY for doing something this entire site is BASED on, you holyer than thou pricks. I really don't get it.
    Here's my review of Wolverine, so you can rat me out to the man and have me castrated for breaking the LAW!

    IT'S SHIT

    Idiots. Oh, and Beaks: fuck you.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:59:15 AM CDT

    Anytime something is "just wrong" or

    by gotilk

    "just bad".. it means the person calling it that obviously already knows the issue is more complicated than they've let on. But keep taking that stand!

    Hey, I know if I was running a studio and I had a choice between blaming the economy/bad business decisions OR piracy for having to lay off workers... I'd probably be a big pussy too and blame the :pirates: . And then I could get some of them a weekend's work shilling our anti-filesharing tripe for a commercial.

    "hey, Frank.. that personal assistant over there doesn't look *laborey* enough, stick a hard hat on him and give him a wider belt."

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:01:26 AM CDT

    OH! and.. still haven't downloaded or watched it

    by gotilk

    .. never will.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:01:36 AM CDT

    MaxTheSilent...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... call me all the names you want, but you're wrong. I have never posted a link to download a movie on AICN. Ever.

    And I'm sorry you don't understand the issue here, but I expect nothing less from the venomous thick-headed dolts who have taken over the talkback from the people who used to actually be able to engage in a conversation. The issue has been explained clearly and succinctly. If you choose to make it about anything other than Friedman's actions and the stated policies of 20th Century Fox regarding ANYONE WHO PIRATES THEIR MATERIAL, then you fail at comprehension completely. Not remotely a surprise.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:02:47 AM CDT

    And to be clear...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... viva la Memflix. That should explain this if you still aren't getting it. Consistency is all we ask.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:05:25 AM CDT

    hrrrmmm

    by macheesmo3

    Now is it also illegal to watch it streaming online? You didn't download anything, you have only viewed something placed online by someone els. ( i have no clue about the legal aspect of this so somebody clue me in on it) Seems like it may be unethical, but not illegal to watch it, but illegal to post it. Downloading means you are taking possession of a copy of the film itself which i can see is illegal. any clarifiaction would be appreciated.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:05:36 AM CDT

    FUCK FOX, FUCK AICN

    by batman713

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:05:47 AM CDT

    HEY MCWEENY, HOW DOES MICK GARRIS' COCK TASTE?

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    Seeing how you sucked up to him to get your writing gigs the way he kissed ass while doing interviews for Fangoria back in the day. Hacks of a feather suck together now, if you'll excuse me, I have an important phone call to make to the President of Africa.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:06:22 AM CDT

    oh and...

    by macheesmo3

    good to see you Moriarty!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:06:33 AM CDT

    re: Fuck you Beaks

    by one_guy_from_andromeda

    Sorry, i forgot to mention: Fuck you too, Moriarty. The issue here is not that FOX wants to anally rape ANYONE WHO PIRATES THEIR MATERIAL (idiot), the issue is that AICN has turned from a place that was ABOUT getting scoops and early info on movies to a place where they call for people who do just to be castrated and jailed till kingdom come. Assholes.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:07:36 AM CDT

    HARRY'S BOOTLEG AOTC REVIEW!

    by lanalangsucks

    Great review!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:08:02 AM CDT

    So easy to bait Moriarty

    by photoman

    This business is too tough for you sweety. Maybe you should try something else, like truckdriving or something. And please stop with the false indignation you hypocrite.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:09:08 AM CDT

    The real crime...

    by themarinebiologist

    ... is Dom's role in this movie. Really... that's just a fucking shame...

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:09:20 AM CDT

    you guys still support FOX movies?

    by whodis

    fuck them and fuck WOLVERINE

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:12:32 AM CDT

    em_tee_em

    by gotilk

    Ah... but that's sharing of data on a SMALL scale. Which makes it different. Right? RIGHT? You know, before your post, em_tee_em, I was kinda still siding with Harry and crew. But then I realized that intellectual property is intellectual property. And isn't "leaked" just another word for "stolen"?

    You know, I have TONS of respect for this site and the people that run it. I love this place. But sometimes you just have to man up. You can't call your readers (or others) a bunch of thieving little pricks for downloading a "leaked" film and then excuse yourself for accepting leaked scripts. Oh sure, you don't send these things out into "the wild". But it all starts with that first lea... I mean THEFT. And you accept a copy of it.

    And remember, every script DRAFT you've ever reviewed and panned put WORKERS (the people that make great stuff that we all enjoy) out of WORK when word got out that the film was going to be a stinker. Right? Right?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:13:16 AM CDT

    Yes, I agree Drew...

    by em_tee_em

    ...consistency is all we ask as well.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:15:20 AM CDT

    Moriarty - GO BACK TO YOUR CRAPPY SITE!

    by lanalangsucks

    Leave us!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:16:18 AM CDT

    A link to Harry's Attack of the Clones review.

    by fooku

    http://www.aintitcool.com/ display.cgi?id=11796

    Did you turn that motherfucker in Harry? No? Isn't that hypocritical? Mr. Beaks and Moriarty did you find this activity illegal and reprehensible and ask Harry not to publish his review and instead turn in the guy who showed it to him? I didn't fucking think so.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:16:36 AM CDT

    I mean.. if that's the leap we're going to be making

    by gotilk

    ...seriously..

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:16:58 AM CDT

    TheRealMoriarty - "Consistency is all we ask." BULL FUCKING SHIT

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    To anyone who wants to know the REAL DREW MCWEENY and HARRY KNOWLES just read FilmThreat's article on them called Deconstructing Harry. Here's the link.... http://www.filmthreat.com/index.php?section=features&Id=159

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:16:59 AM CDT

    Preview Screenings

    by one_guy_from_andromeda

    Talking about consistency, Moriarty et al: from now on, when someone goes to a test screening where they have to sign a form that it is illegal for them to share any information about the movie and then send you a review, will you not run it and call for them to be prosecuted to the full extend of the law? Because if you won't your indignation is completely out of place. Why don't you get that?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:18:10 AM CDT

    Freedom of the Press

    by ulcer

    here's the thing, as a part of the press you SHOULD indeed have the right to report on the stolen material, including by viewing it and reporting it. It's not like you're redistributing the thing -- which is the crime.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:18:16 AM CDT

    FookU

    by em_tee_em

    Obviously your point will never be addressed because the editors have no clothes.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:18:25 AM CDT

    If they don't fire him

    by tigermyth36

    Then it proves they told him to say he had watched it and it was great.

    They not only should fire him, but they should also sue him.

    They have a clear cut win win case against him since his own words can be used to prove he downloaded and watched it.

    He has also put his own company in peril since in the scope of his job, he talked about downloading another studio's movie.

    They really can't let him stay since he mentioned watching I love you man next.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:19:00 AM CDT

    Hypocrisy.

    by thom85

    With what authority can AICN call for the termination of a journalist for legal and/or ethical violations when AICN and its founder Harry Knowles have themselves been involved in multiple such scenarios?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:20:13 AM CDT

    re:CreepyThinMansPreciousLittleLife

    by ulcer

    9 year old rant from a competing web site about this one is not really relevant to anything. no one's putting a gun to your head to come to this site.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:21:36 AM CDT

    Did you guys call for Harry to be fired for AOTC?

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:26:31 AM CDT

    Come on guys...

    by em_tee_em

    ...do as they say, not as they do. Black boxes mean never having to show integrity.No offense Vern.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:31:58 AM CDT

    Fire Harry for the AOTC bootleg review!!!

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:32:26 AM CDT

    fooku

    by hebrewlantern

    just because you see a movie doesn't make it illegal. there are occasions when people are allowed to see movies early, such as advanced screenings, etc. reviewers are allowed to see movies early so they can publish their reviews when the movie is released. how do you think harry is able to put his reviews on DVDs on tuesday. do you really think he is able to watch all those DVD's in a few hours tops before he posts the review?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:33:51 AM CDT

    gotilk

    by em_tee_em

    Now look at what you did. The idea that even a single person in this thread is listening to me makes me feel self-conscious about all the immature profanity and name calling I've been throwing around,

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:34:52 AM CDT

    Harry Can't Fire Himself For His AOTC Review...

    by media messiah

    ...but in light of his new stance on reviewing bootlegs, it would grab headlines if Harry did just that...played the repentant martyr and fired himself.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:36:58 AM CDT

    SO WHY IS THE PROFESSOR X NOT IN HIS WHEELCHAIR AT THE END?

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:38:18 AM CDT

    WHY IS WOLVERINE IN JAPAN AT THE END ,AFTER THE CREDITS

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:38:50 AM CDT

    DEAD POOL DIES LIKE DARTH MAUL

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:38:54 AM CDT

    Harry, what the hell?

    by lost_horizon

    I don't download illegal/copyrighted materials (I'm not a sanctimonious prick, I just think artists getting compensated fairly for their work—no matter how shitty it might be—saves us ALL money in the long run), so I fully support whatever action(s) FOX chooses to take against this tool. With that said, Harry, seriously... please explain how you watching a stolen copy of AOTC with a couple of sleazeballs in a hotel room, and then writing an orgasmically gleeful review of it, is somehow morally superior to what this guy's done. I admire the passion you demonstrate for what you do, but, wow... what an unbelievable crock of shit you can serve up some times.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:39:43 AM CDT

    BULLET THROUGH THE BRAIN ERASES MEMORY.WTF?

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:40:09 AM CDT

    got ugly in here

    by the knight

    fox isn't going to fire anyone. full of shit...

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:40:15 AM CDT

    BLOB LOOKED LIKE FAT BASTARD,FROM AUSTIN POWERS

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:41:07 AM CDT

    Of Course, It Won't Be Fun Unless After A Few Weeks...

    by media messiah

    ...Harry pulls an Art Bell, and hires himself back! It'll be an even better publicity stunt than when Fox leaked its own movie to the net, and as you all know, that would be, Wolverine. They'll even have the perfect excuse in advance of the movie bombing at the box office, they'll just claim that the bootleg undermined the film's box office potential...shifting the blame from the fact that the movie looks like a mess, and onto some nameless leaker who will magically never be found, just like Osama bin Ladin.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:41:14 AM CDT

    Wow...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... if you think that there has ever been any legal reason not to report on a test screening, you're a fool. Straight up. Again, the studios may not like it, but it's not illegal. You do not enter into a legal agreement with them by attending a test screening, and there's no binding way to stop anyone who attends one from talking about it. Never has been. Not the same issue remotely.

    Script reviews? Same thing. It may not make the studios happy, but it's not illegal. At all.

    But it's always good to see people dredge up things like that inaccurate and ridiculous Film Threat piece. What is Ron Wells doing these days, anyway? Oh, that's right... he sold me a fucking hamburger the other day. Yeah, that hit piece really did the trick, eh?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:41:53 AM CDT

    WOLVERINES BORN IN 1800,S BUT STOPS AGING IN HIS 30,S????

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:43:01 AM CDT

    SO SAVRE TOOTH GROWS TALLER AND GETS BLONDE HAIR FOR XMEN?

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:44:02 AM CDT

    STORM COMES FROM THE AFRICAN VILLAGE LOL PATHETIC

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:44:58 AM CDT

    GAMBIT LOL PATHETIC

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:45:52 AM CDT

    I DIDNT HAVE HIGH HOPES FOR THE MOVIE ANYWAY

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:46:20 AM CDT

    SHOULD HAVE JUST MADE XMEN 4

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:47:32 AM CDT

    As soon as they said "Adamantium bullets,"

    by themarinebiologist

    I cried "bullshit." Wolverine is a fucking mutant, not a werewolf.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:48:28 AM CDT

    JUST SAVED ME WASTING MY MONEY AT THE CINEMA

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:48:50 AM CDT

    Wait...there was a link for the bootlegs here?

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:49:01 AM CDT

    Moriarty

    by logicalnoise01

    Ypou have anything to say on the "let the right one in" debacle because Harry seems to not give a crap as long as he gets his referral credits.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:49:09 AM CDT

    I LAUGHED WHEN YOUNG WOLVERINE WAS YELLING WITH HIS CLAWS OUT

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:49:40 AM CDT

    ulcer

    by gotilk

    I don't really know about THAT. I mean, this place is completely legit now, but not too long ago this was just a web site, like a blog. (who could argue that AICN is not the press, honestly.. as the term was intended?)And the courts even now are NOT always extending the full rights of the press to bloggers and web site "writers". I believe there's an apple fan site owner STILL in jail for refusing to reveal a source.

    Said the judge:


    "Unlike the whistleblower who discloses a health, safety or welfare hazard affecting all, or the government employee who reveals mismanagement or worse by our public officials, (the enthusiast sites) are doing nothing more than feeding the public's insatiable desire for information," Kleinberg wrote.

    California's shield law does not hold up for bloggers, at least in CA.

    And let's face it, no matter what state you live in.. you piss off Hollywood.. guess which state you'll be sued in? So as much as *I* would consider a place like this "press" and it's writers "journalists"... the law appears to differ from place to place. Having said that, and having read many blogs, I think it's safe to say that what it takes now to be a "journalist" is significantly different than what it used to be. The line is blurry. What defines a journalist? Do you want to live in a world where a judge decides who is and who is not one?

    I have a point though, honestly. And it is that a LOT of black and white, fundamental moralistic judgment is flying around here today. Not a lot of gray areas for many people. Yet, here we are in this gray area, with judges setting precedent in regard to who is and who is not a journalist based on the MEDIUM they choose. And here we are as well with the Internet "cat out of the bag". That box is never going to close. And I'm sorry, no matter how long or how firmly you stand, your(whoever the YOU is in this) moral view of the accepted norm will simply someday soon be.. irrelevant. Writers work hard to write books. Would you put a book store out of business because you use the library? What if EVERYONE waited until it "came out on DVD", imagine the job loss. All that great art would never be created. What about all those cassette tapes that ruined the music industry? The jukeboxes that destroyed the record industry? TV that destroyed the movie business? The VCR that destroyed the very fabric of all things entertainment and beyond? The DVR that destroyed television. (best year in a while for them) You just can't demonize the norm and expect to come out the other side feeling like anything but the idiot. Business, opinionated douchebag, blogger, columnist.. whoever you may be. Take a deep breath, look around and look at history. It's the same story, just a bigger, faster and more dense means of moving it around the world. The benefits of this revolution (the Internet itself) FAR outweigh any imagined or REAL losses.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:50:09 AM CDT

    Well, if test screening are okay...how about premieres?

    by bones

    I wait with baited breath for people to start spoiling STAR TREK.
    Please, for the love of film, DON'T Delete spoiler posts of the new Star Trek!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:50:12 AM CDT

    I WOULD HAVE WALKED OUT,AT THE BLOB SCENE

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:51:30 AM CDT

    THAT WAS HANDY THE CLOTHES FITTING HIM

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:52:19 AM CDT

    THE AOTC review

    by metiphislabs

    Yeah, I like yah Harry, but they really got you on this one. You did do pretty much the same thing, and with the same studio even...

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:52:39 AM CDT

    THEY SHOULD LEAVE THE MOVIE EXACTLY HOW IT IS

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:54:26 AM CDT

    HUGH JACKMEN,ALL DOWN HILL FOR U NOW MATE

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:55:10 AM CDT

    scotsman75

    by sleeperkid

    What are you, 12? Or are you just fucking retarded?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:55:34 AM CDT

    THEY HAVE TO REMOVE THE SCENE WITH BLOB

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:55:48 AM CDT

    Actually...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... the AOTC thing was not the same. People keep mistakenly connecting the guy who was prosecuted by Lucasfilm to Harry seeing the movie. Two unrelated incidents. Harry's source stole nothing. Harry stole nothing. And just because he didn't name the source to you doesn't mean laws were broken.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:56:07 AM CDT

    Star Trek spoiler...

    by sleeperkid

    The film

    *SPOILER ALERT*

    ...leads to and outdoes a ridiculously overrated TV series.

    *END SPOILER*

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:56:20 AM CDT

    LOL SLEEPER U GETTIN ANNOYED?

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:56:21 AM CDT

    LOL SLEEPER U GETTIN ANNOYED?

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:56:37 AM CDT

    LogicalNoise1

    by therealmoriarty

    I've written about the "Let The Right One In" situation a few times this week at HitFix, including earlier today.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:57:29 AM CDT

    PROFESSOR X CAN WALK AT THE END

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:58:16 AM CDT

    Drew, how about...

    by maxthesilent

    'The Real Cancun', or your apallingly mis-guided review of early footage of TOMB RAIDER. You're a whore. Deny it and FURTHER incriminate yourself as a self-serving douche suckling at the tit of corporate Hollywood when it suits you. Nothing you say will change what you are, a bottom-feeding douchebag until the day you die.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:58:38 AM CDT

    Isn't it weird...

    by em_tee_em

    ...how Drew keeps stopping by, but keeps ignoring the elephant in the room (Psst! It's Harry watching a stolen print of AOTC in a hotel room and reviewing it) like he's never even seen any references to it in-between the posts he is replying to?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:59:33 AM CDT

    THIS MOVIE MAKES INDY 4 LOOK GOOD

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:59:46 AM CDT

    moriarty well done

    by logicalnoise01

    I'll be happy to shift my attention to your site rather than this one.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:00:12 AM CDT

    "sold me a fucking hamburger the other day"

    by lanalangsucks

    After seeing your site, you should apply there soon!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:00:51 AM CDT

    CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN WHY SABRETOOTH LOOKS DIFFERENT??

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:01:13 AM CDT

    Away and and bile yer heid Scotsman75

    by benbraddock

    You post so much but have so very little to say

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:02:22 AM CDT

    TheRealMoriarty, Wolverine, and beyond

    by dancingforever

    Moriarty, Do you remember when you told me Watchmen was a very good film while I was arguing what a piece or garbage that film would be? Ah, the good times.
    The Wolverine film as I saw it is terrible. The acting is not the problem, Jackman is good and there are some bright spots, loved seeing Professor X at the end. The story however is so bad that noting can fix this. The farm scene, the helicopter attack, the Darth Mauling of Deadpool, Emma Frost as a teenage cheerleader, every thing Saber tooth does etc. It just sucks, there are no redeeming qualities. The leak of this work print has effectively killed the opening weekend sucker punch they were hoping for, I doubt this movie will do over 80 million.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:02:59 AM CDT

    GAMBIT WON A PLANE IN A CARD GAME LOL FUCK ME

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:03:13 AM CDT

    "... the AOTC thing was not the same."

    by lanalangsucks

    I know because Harry is your friend.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:03:59 AM CDT

    Currently: Deleting McWeeny's bullshit blog site from my 'Favour

    by maxthesilent

    Fuck you, you hypocritical, talentless pile of shit. I've followed your shit on here for about seven years. Fuck you for even trying to claim some moral high ground with this WOLVERINE leak. You provieded a link for the workprint of HULK. Deny it and you're a lying cunt.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:05:00 AM CDT

    Hey Max

    by metiphislabs

    Can you possibly shut the fuck up at some point? Moriarty is my favorite film reviewer, and I pretty much agree with him on a consistent basis. You act like he killed your family and raped your dog. The manb is living his life just fine, so stop being a giant screaming mouthpiece in the sea of cackling madness of internet troll-ery.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:05:08 AM CDT

    No, Lana...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... because no one stole AOTC. But please, continue to misunderstand if it suits your thesis.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:05:29 AM CDT

    TheRealMoriarty...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...but didn't Harry see an illegal copy of AOTC...in a secret location...and then review it on this website? I definitely agree that this behavior is wrong and illegal...but wasn't Harry wrong too?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:06:10 AM CDT

    MaxTheSilent...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... post a link to where I told people to download "Hulk," or you're a petulant child who just learned the word "cunt" when someone was paying your mommy.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:06:46 AM CDT

    ...or did Harry have permission?

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Maybe he did? His review seemed very hush hush.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:06:57 AM CDT

    Actually after reading the AOTC review

    by metiphislabs

    For all we know those dudes in the hotel room were Lucasfilm sanctioned to show Harry the film. Lucas could have sent them himself for all we know.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:07:25 AM CDT

    AOTC...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... I've addressed it twice now, and it's Harry's point to make, so I'll leave it alone at this point. But he did not see an illegal copy, and he did not steal the film, nor did anyone involved. Beyond that, I don't know what to tell you.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:09:08 AM CDT

    Ok...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    I might not have remembered it correctly. I've slept hundreds of times since then.

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  • i'm sorry but you can't take the moral high ground. for years at aicn you and the other writers made a name for yourselves by at first giving access to test screening and script reviews - and if you ask me a script review is even crueller than a workprint review. i agree with you friedman is a douche, and obviously you've evolved, but all aicn is accomplishing by pretending to be white knights on this issue is just fuelling more admonishments of hypocrisy. reviewing a film before it's complete in any state is just not fair, and you helped open that genie out of the bottle.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:10:40 AM CDT

    WHO CARES THE MOVIE IS SHIT

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:11:28 AM CDT

    "post a link to where I told people to download "Hulk,"

    by lanalangsucks

    I'm not saying you did post a link, but this site does have a BAD REPUTATION of deleting links. I don't know why.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:11:43 AM CDT

    WHY IS WOLVERINE 200 YEARS OLD?

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:12:20 AM CDT

    DrTurning...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... but we're not pretending to be white nights with spotless records. Go read what I actually wrote at HitFix if you doubt that. The point is this... Fox tracked down one of our contributors who reviewed a trade screening and had him fired from his job. He didn't break any law when he reviewed it, although he did show poor judgment. They made sure they took his livelihood from him. If they don't do AT LEAST the same to Roger Friedman for admitting that he downloaded stolen materials and then reviewing them, then Fox no longer gets to set any rules for how anyone covers their material. That is the point. THIS SPECIFIC INCIDENT. You can obfuscate as much as you want, but that's the point.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:12:34 AM CDT

    I WANT TO SEE GAMBIT ORIGINS,SEE HIM WIN THAT PLANE LOL

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:13:12 AM CDT

    Lana...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... I don't delete stories. In fact, I'm still chipping away at creating an archive of everything I've ever posted here.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:14:17 AM CDT

    wait wait wait i agree that test screening reviews

    by drturing

    aren't illegal, but are they ethical? for harry to claim that the basis of unfairness in judging something once its leaked is that the film is unfinished that is ridiculous. you have allowed reviews of unfinished films forever. and do we have to bring up JOE HALLENBECK?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:14:24 AM CDT

    And watch...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... Max will never address the issue. He will never post a link. He will never be able to come up with a single place where I recommended that people should download "Hulk" or where I told people how to do it, because it never happened. But he won't apologize or back down. He'll just keep calling me his mother's name, over and over again.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:14:44 AM CDT

    Harry is not a hypocrit

    by lsleelee

    Sure, his lack of understanding of punctuation is sometimes astonishing, but he's not in the wrong on this one. He didn't steal the AOTC workprint and AOTC had not gone through major reshoots since that workprint had been made.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:16:13 AM CDT

    DrTurning...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... bring up Joe Hallenbeck all day long if you want, and then show me where I had anything to do with that or where we condoned it. Joe went to jail for what he did. Not me. Not Harry. I've never sold a bootleg in my life. And you continue to make this about issues other than the specific thing being discussed, so what's the point?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:16:32 AM CDT

    I thought it was fine

    by smackfu

    It was pretty much exactly what I expected it to be. Were we really expecting Schindler's List here? It did contain some classic cheese, the part where wolverine's girlfriend died and the camera did the classic, 'above-the-head-pan-back-while-the-hero-roars-up-at-the-Gods' made me nearly piss myself laughing. Directors should get fined $10,000 for doing that.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:16:34 AM CDT

    TheRealMoriarty, IS THAT WHY YOU CALLED RON WELLS AT HOME???

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    Quoted from FilmThreat....
    "Drew McWeeny AKA Moriarty
    called Ron Wells at home
    to yell at him about what
    he described as "unfair treatment."

    The humorless hack whined about the story to Wells who described
    the encounter as "like arguing
    with a girl in junior high." McWeeny?

    Yeah, he wasn't relentlessy teased
    for a name like McWeeny when
    he was a kid. Now we understand
    all that pointless arrogance and anger..."

    They had your fucking number even then and you haven't changed one fucking bit.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:17:52 AM CDT

    fox can cry all they want

    by logicalnoise01

    they have no credit with the internet anymore. They'll receive no sympathy from fans and now they likely have no chance at a blind #1 weekend. If WB was smart they'd move anything with a chance of competing with wolverine up to challenge it. Just based on what I'm hearing I'll wait til netflix to see this. Piracy is part of business and basically fox should be mad at themselves for allowing the leak. yeah go ahead and sue whoever did it but reportedly FOX got the FBI to blindly take down a Dallas data center that served thousand upon thousands of customers. The copmpany running the center says they have no record of the company the FBI was looking for doing business with them within the last 8 months. Meaning the link to the xmen link is just blind brute enforcement.

    I remember the supposed AOTC leak harry watched. he never said it was a nefarious screening just a very secret one. I do recall AICN pushing "Batman:dead end" even though that short only escaped oblivion by having it's creator take the entire production cost at a loss. Meanwhile studios like fox and disney make it impossible to get more public domain material everytime their copyright is up.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:18:06 AM CDT

    As far as ethics...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... I would be happy to sit down with you and debate the ethics of reviewing test screenings face-to-face, because I am proud of the work we did to undermine NRG and eventually drive Joe Farrell out of the business completely. NRG was a rotten, rancid organization that was hurting filmmakers, and I absolutely did everything I could to violate and upend their process. And I didn't break the law in doing so, either. Ethical? Guess that depends on which side you're on. If you're on Joe Farrell's side, you and I will never see eye to eye.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:18:11 AM CDT

    Yeah, lame AOTC deflection there McWeeny

    by photoman

    "Harry's source stole nothing. Harry stole nothing. And just because he didn't name the source to you doesn't mean laws were broken." Yeah, bullshit. Care to back that little bit up with some actual evidence there? You realize you can fucking write anything you want and just say "no no, this is true" and it doesn't make it true you know. Harry watched an illegal version of AOTC. There, see, I can write stuff also with absolutely no back-up too. The thing is, you, Harry and the other idiots here have ALL seen the workprint of this movie and you're coming up with this indignation. Why? Because you're not special anymore. You and Harry are irrelevant now. Look at the posts on this thread alone....see many people standing by you clowns? We're all standing back in awe really at you guys and your hypocrisy. I will say you two have HUGE balls to come out with this bullshit. But we here know that it's just that...bullshit. Now STFU.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:18:44 AM CDT

    Drew all i can say is this

    by drturing

    i read AICN for the advance word on films that aren't going to get major press play like oldboy or let the right one in or the iron giant, or set visits or non scripted interviews and talkbacks are fun, and the hubbub about movies...

    Only if you ever have a film you're truly proud of and love and have gone through hell with a studio and end up test screening it and going through the horror of seeing just how idiotic the cards can be ("why isn't this r rated movie more like step up 2 the streets") and then the studio pressures you to reshoot cut a different version, and accordingly it get s tested, and written up on aicn... will you know how yes it's not illegal, but it's never been very ethical. the problem with test screenings has never been that a studio wants to do them - it's the sheer idiocy that gets collated on those reports embodied in the general public.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:20:09 AM CDT

    So you didn't 'hide' a link...

    by maxthesilent

    ...amongst an article about where to download a copy of Ang Lee's HULK workprint?? But don't worry, Drew. Only the foolish newbies here who don't have a memory as long as mine will believe your vague (but by no means 'actual') denials.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:20:21 AM CDT

    A leaked script is an intellectual property

    by gotilk

    and they may look away , but it is FULLY actionable. When someone steals a script and sends it to you, it's just as illegal as stealing anything else. (I'm not even hinting at suggesting that stealing is the only way you or anyone else gets scripts.. so halt that vitriol) And considering a purely MORAL stand, it's "just stealing, pure and simple". I'm sorry, there's just no winning on that one, on any grounds. I know people pass these things around and in some cases they want them passed around. But you know as well as I that it's not ALWAYS at that stage when your eyes see it for the first time.

    And you wanna talk about theft? Actual theft?

    Movie Studios and producers accused of screenplay theft:
    http://tinyurl.com/rjoeq

    (different "kind of theft" though, right? ACTUAL theft)
    I know of one example. I know Icon threatened to sue over a stolen draft of the Passion. (but who sues Catholic Bishops?.. unless diddling is involed)

    I'm sure others can find examples.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:20:45 AM CDT

    i agree with that NRG can burn in hell

    by drturing

    and tom rothman's fox when it sinks as i pray it will soon...

    but sadly i think it's going to get replaced by even worse people.

    I need a job right now but i wouldn't do anything to have a movie at fox.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:20:48 AM CDT

    Here's a cookie, ThinMan...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... now go play with all your little troll friends. You believe Ron Wells and his story completely, and nothing will change that. There is a reason he can't get a job writing a fucking fortune cookie at this point, much less "journalism." And yet, I'm still here, and I actually got a great job in a tough market because my track record earned it. Now call me some more names, little boy.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:20:59 AM CDT

    Off-topic, but quick question Moriarty...

    by the_coyote

    Did you ever post part 3 of your Sherlock Holmes interviews? I may have missed it somewhere, but I don't remember ever seeing it up on the site.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:21:01 AM CDT

    Okay

    by em_tee_em

    I guess I was wrong regarding the legality of Harry's viewing of Episode II. Also, I have always agreed 100% that FOX has no choice but to fire Freidman. They as a company just don't (what are you talking about? That was a great sentence)But, I still have a giant problem with this site's admonishment of the fans over wanting to see something early when they get the chance. You guys weren't always "professionals" and I'm fairly certain all of you would have jumped at the chance to see a movie like Wolverine a month in advance if say this was 1987 and you were just film geeks.To be clear Drew has not been doing what I just said as he's just been arguing the legality of the situation, and while this shouldn't matter I did want to point out that I have not seen the film in question. Honestly I will probably see it with some friends when it comes out, but overall it is not a film that excites me.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:21:57 AM CDT

    btw hallenbeck is not about you... it's about AICN

    by drturing

    this site has always tread a dodgy ethical line. on the other hand your writing over the years just reminded me of all the gossip that gets passed around when you're in the industry making sales but not getting anything made, just presented on the net to a wider audience.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:22:49 AM CDT

    TheRealMoriarty, TELL ME DID WALTER DO IT?

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    Something you wrote a few years ago when someone asked you what have you done......"You ask me to define myself and my credentials. To you, I say that I am a lifelong film fan. I say that I am someone who takes the art form very seriously, who's been lucky enough to study the subject with some of the best teachers in the world in both practical and academic settings. I'm an award-winning dramatist. I'm a card-carrying member of the WGA. I'm the west coast editor of Ain't It Cool News. I'm Batman and Bruce Wayne, and I'm working my ass off." You are a pretentious douchebag and a fat whiney pussy.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:23:03 AM CDT

    i cannot recall mori ever linking to a leak

    by drturing

    ever. and i can remember when harry claimed that natalie portman and her friend stayed up at a slumber party and sent him a card. i actually remember that shit.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:23:15 AM CDT

    Sabre Tooth is Wolverine's brother? WTF?

    by lavatory love machine

    how was that guy that got dumped by the lost girl?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:23:34 AM CDT

    DrTurning...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... if test screenings were just for filmmakers, I'd side with you. But they aren't. And that process has gotten much much better AS A RESULT of all the "unethical" behavior we built the site on. The power has definitely shifted away from NRG and similar companies and the sheer brutal force of numbers, and back into the hands of filmmakers who use the process right. Not every time, but far more than when we started. So I'm fine with our role in things, and I absolutely feel comfortable with where I stand on it ethically.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:24:11 AM CDT

    And a link can't be found...

    by maxthesilent

    ... in an article that has been erased or altered AFTER THE FACT. I KNOW you posted that link, Drew. I KNOW you encouraged people to download that workprint. And I KNOW you are as much a hypocritical douche as Harry for even ATTEMPTING to claim some kind of high ground over this WOLVERINE leak.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:24:20 AM CDT

    A review site calling for another reviewer to be fired?

    by dailysportspages

    Thats pretty low... regardless if its a FOX shill or not.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:25:00 AM CDT

    Who cares?

    by chocolatejesus

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:25:30 AM CDT

    Morarty, geez!!

    by jimbobcooter

    In your defense: in AOTC there was no "crime" if the film itself was not stolen. Yet Friedman admitted to "stealing" by illegally downloading, and admitted how easy it was and how many other hit movies he'd rather download. Which is just stupid. But your feverish defense and bringing SilentMax's mother into the argument is overblown because you do rely on people getting their hands on stolen property (yes, you know that scripts are studio property and the ideas discussed therein) or discussing screening though they OFTEN DO SIGN WAVERS SAYING THEY WON'T. So yes, you are not stealing, but selling stolen goods. Thanks for stating the difference.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:26:21 AM CDT

    Max

    by metiphislabs

    Oh for the love of god, I have been reading this site for about 10 years, and Moriarty never linked to any leaked films ever. This site is my fucking homepage for god's sake, I check it 10 times a day.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:27:24 AM CDT

    test screenings will never be for the filmmakers

    by drturing

    unless you're joe swanberg and you spent five bucks on some condoms for your film. i'm sorry but a 100 million dollar gamble will always, always have insecure business people hedging their bets on pseudo science metrics. that's like saying that marketing should be in the hands of the filmmakers. good luck.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:28:24 AM CDT

    that is true that your reviewers sign agreements

    by drturing

    not to write up the screenings on aicn, which would be a breach of contract.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:28:28 AM CDT

    Also

    by jimbobcooter

    I know that, for the most part, the studio allows it, knowing that a good review of a small film saves them marketing money or pushing award season. But this is the risk. The buzz is ridiculously bad and they are worried and pushing back to you guys. If the buzz was fantastic, I wonder if the feverish indignance would be there.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:29:20 AM CDT

    Mori is right on the Friedman issue though

    by gotilk

    If they'll get someone fired for a much lesser thing, they should fire Friedman for doing what they have described as a MUCH worse thing. Even if I disagree about the "moral" implications of THE THING he did. OR if they have decided to take a softer stance, they should go public with it and have that softer stance apply to all of us.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:29:23 AM CDT

    i think wolverines claws were not shiney enough new topic

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:31:04 AM CDT

    all u geeks need to calm down,its only a movie

    by scotsman75

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:36:16 AM CDT

    i dont know about calling or a guy's job.

    by bmacsmith

    seems pretty mean. guy's gotta eat! but then again. he is a douche

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:36:37 AM CDT

    *FOR

    by bmacsmith

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:36:44 AM CDT

    And you KNOW...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... nothing, Max. As I suspected. Google cache should have anything you suspect has been erased. Go. Find it. Prove me wrong. Unless your theory is that I somehow have the power to make Google take things down, too.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:37:12 AM CDT

    Douche gotta eat?

    by jimbobcooter

    Not a pretty thought.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:37:36 AM CDT

    This site reputation was built on leaks

    by theplant

    I'm just saying. Script leaks. Screening leaks. You people reviewed early cuts of Titanic 6 months before it came out. You should definetely review this piece of crap movie that is Wolberine.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:38:31 AM CDT

    Months old?

    by the_patriot

    Did I miss something? Seriously. Because I read repeatedly in multiple articles that the print was from March 3. (I will admit that I don't recall that tidbit being on this site.) Was that incorrect or a revision to try and build the "You haven't seen the whole film" tower a little higher? Don't get me wrong, I'm gonna see it anyway, regardless. Hell, I sat through White Chicks...and I promise this doesn't suck anywhere near that level!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:39:44 AM CDT

    CCon99

    by metiphislabs

    Did he release a public review of Spirited Away? I also seem to remember he legitimately ordered and paid for the film but it was taking too long to be delivered.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:39:54 AM CDT

    DrTurning...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... nonsense on the "breach of contract" thing. It's not a contract. It's not legally binding. At best, it's a request. And you don't have to fill them out. I never did at any screening I went to, even after they started handing them out. I just handed back a blank. People sign names like "Ivana Humpalot." It's an absolutely useless piece of symbolic paper. Again... you can disagree with me ethically, and I respect your position, but it ain't illegal.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:41:28 AM CDT

    CCon...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... I've more than copped to that. I am not spotless. I had Kazaa on my computer in the early days of its existence. I did indeed download "Spirited Away." None of that has anything to do with Fox's response to Roger Friedman's article. At all. And it's not a "gotcha" if I've written about doing those things in an article here on AICN.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:44:20 AM CDT

    how are decent files of unreleased movies...

    by jimmyjoe redsky

    ... making it onto the internet in the first place? - especially when their not even in theaters yet - a 100+ mil to make and distribute world wide and some ass holes steal it and give it away for free on the internet - id be pissed if i were flipping the bill

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:44:22 AM CDT

    PS Friedman feature was OK

    by theplant

    I mean, now, journalists aren't allowed to report on leaks ? If Fox banned this, they should also ban any page, or forum, reporting the leak. Like on this site.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:46:49 AM CDT

    Screenings are well planned.

    by the_patriot

    And as far as test screenings go - if studios *REALLY* intended for people not to talk about the film in any way, shape, or form to other people or to scoop sites - they would simply not have them. Or they would keep them to industry types only. The publicists and such are completely aware that the film will be discussed - those waivers are mainly intended so that people like Harry or Drew can't sneak into a test screening and write a paid review ahead of the rest of their compatriots and competitors. But Joe Schmoe? And me? So I'm one of 700 people that gets to see Avatar (or whatever) 3 months early and I post a review. Who the hell am I? I'm a nobody with no name recognition or fan base or reputation - and I can be easily condemned. But if Drew McWeeny posts a review? He's got the name, a reputable site, and recognition - and people will automatically give creedance to what he says - and that's what the studios want to avoid. The difference here is that a product was stolen, not willingly shown. Every single person who has watched Wolverine is a thief, and that's a damn sight different than someone who was willingly asked into a location to view something by the creators. So really - everyone, climb your sorry asses off your high horses and cut the crap with calling everyone a hypocrite here. It's a specious argument and only serves to show that you don't really understand most of how the business has to interact with each other - only that you want to stomp your feet and biatch because you think you've got a chance to score brownie points with the rest of the trolls. Harry - Moriarty - thumbs up.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:47:13 AM CDT

    Moriarty - your being Is Being Very Defensive!

    by lanalangsucks

    Do you feel guilty of something?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:47:40 AM CDT

    if you had Kazaa on your PC you're the same as Mr Freidman

    by lavatory love machine

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:48:14 AM CDT

    if you can show me a movie lover

    by drturing

    who hasn't violated region coding or downloaded something that at the time appeared it would never get a US release (because we get maybe 1% of the world's cultural output here).... then you're showing me a fucking unicorn with wings

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:48:18 AM CDT

    Wow

    by rutgerman

    This is ridiculous. When did these guys say they are without sin? They didn't. But Friedman works for Fox. Not only that, but these guys don't sit on the internet and download pre-work prints, which are released ALL THE TIME.

    You have some real pieces of shit on this board. You need to do what us at Gawker/kotaku/Gizmodo did and MODERATE these people out...

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:48:33 AM CDT

    TheRealMoriarty, RON WELLS IS MORE TRUSTWORTHY THEN YOU....

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    Your “burger selling” crack shows exactly the type of hypocritical scumbag that you are. For all of your pretensions it’s always about the money. You’re like every other hack and if you were capable of writing a quality script then you wouldn’t need Harry to pimp your shit on this site as he did years ago. Do YOU know what Ron Wells is doing for a living now? No. But because he’s not writing about movies he’s beneath you, right? So you think your better then other people because you got two shitty TV episodes made by John Carpenter? What I do know about Wells and Film Threat was that they maintained at least a small amount of journalistic integrity unlike you and Knowles who use AICN to shill your non-existent talents while side-stepping any sort of objectivity by accepting freebies and peddling your crayon scribbled wank to hacks like McGarris who hasn’t written or Directed one single fucking good thing in his worthless career as in evidence from his list of credits on the IMDB. I’ve contacted Wells and I’ll let you know what he’s up to.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:48:54 AM CDT

    or worse because this was the first time he ever dowloaded a mov

    by lavatory love machine

    you should excuse yourself from making any negative comments about Mr Friedman

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:49:15 AM CDT

    Moriarty - your being very Defensive!

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:49:22 AM CDT

    I have not seen it, but...

    by razorback

    A friend of mine told me that a lot of the campy stuff may come from the fact that the shots are not finished, and that parts of the movie show promise.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:50:27 AM CDT

    actually yeah i have to say

    by drturing

    i have never at any early screening ive ever attended had to sign anything... my bad. i think it's become just stupid bragging that they're getting away with something.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:51:45 AM CDT

    Actually, ThinMan...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... I do know what he's doing for a living right now, and if you work a double-shift at your job tomorrow and earn a whole quarter, you can get a blow job from a former Film Threat staff writer. Isn't that exciting?!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:51:52 AM CDT

    It does smack of desperation for positive comments.

    by mr nicholas

    Well, I'm certainly curious as to how the film eventually turns out.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:52:57 AM CDT

    Wells sould him a burger. Is that slander?

    by lanalangsucks

    I think it is!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:54:43 AM CDT

    Go Fuck Yourself Rutgerman. Seriously.

    by fooku

    Go back to where ever the fuck you came from bitch. And work prints aren't released all of the time dumbass.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:55:25 AM CDT

    if I was Miyazaki I would sue you and get you fired

    by lavatory love machine

    or banned from ever reviewing or posting about movies

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:55:48 AM CDT

    Moriarty - Slandering people is illegal too !!

    by lanalangsucks

    You may be in big shit now!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:55:52 AM CDT

    But one overall grave thought...

    by jimbobcooter

    Why are so many movies getting comic book characters wrong? Deadpool as a humorless Terminator with his mouth sewn shut?? Is it that hard to give him a reason to want to hunt Wolverine (like he's simply a hired gun, which is actually is). Or emo Superman. Or whatever. It's so odd that screenwriters are so desperate to "reinvent" established characters that it ALWAYS comes out poorly. Look at TDK and Iron Man. The reinvented Joker and Iron Monger, but only in ways that enhance and were actually TRUER than a literal interpretation. Seems an obvious issue. But I clearly am missing something.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:57:01 AM CDT

    What's the prison time for stealing a film?

    by crashbang

    With all the aggressive advertising about the consequences of stealing films and music - what are the typical punishments for us common folk? Jail time? Sued for thousands?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:57:30 AM CDT

    FookU

    by rutgerman

    You're a funny guy. I'd love to see you come over here and say that, you internet twat scum of the earth. Aww, you're a pussy? Too bad. And yes, there are plenty of workprints going around in the industry all the time jackass.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:57:43 AM CDT

    mori, do you regret reviewing the stolen e1 script

    by jimmyjoe redsky

    you were given stolen property - and reviewed it on line - thus admitting you were in possession of said evidence

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:58:31 AM CDT

    DrTuring...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... it's nice to know that it is possible to actually have a conversation here. You may not agree with me, but you've been nothing less than civil, and I hope you have a good weekend.

    Some of you others (coughthinmancough) can keep filling your diapers if it makes you feel better. I'm gonna go watch a movie and head to bed.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:59:28 AM CDT

    I'm not the least bit afraid Rutgerman.

    by fooku

    Fuck you dickless wonder. Tell me where you are. I'll come say it to your geeky little face bitch.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:02:26 AM CDT

    gawker? gawker makes aicn look like harper's

    by drturing

    fucking bullshit elitist hatred for all those jealous they never made it. gizmodo is porn for men who can't get hard at the sight of a woman but will for a new laptop. and kotaku is just some weeaboo in japan posting pictures of cosplay underage jailbait every other item to drive traffic in between obvious commentary on games.

    the one thing i'll give credit for to aicn always is that it made talkback completely free. harry would never delete the worst most reprehensible shit written about him. anything goes here, and again that's the clusterfuck bugfuck insanity that you can't get anywhere else.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:02:49 AM CDT

    You're all a bunch of little pussies

    by biffs_pleasure_paradise

    Moriarty and most of the talkbackers here. Doing nothing but trying to sling comebacks around like a bunch of kids at the schoolyard. The ones who run this site can't just admit that yeah, maybe they fucked up a bit, while the talkbackers act like Harry and the lot raped their mothers. Get over it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:03:16 AM CDT

    Oh kay, I gave up and.......

    by the dum guy

    Saw it (not on my comp, but a friends) and I must say that I am so Meh'd.I'll have to catch up on what is above me, but I will say that based on what I saw, the work print isn't that good.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:03:52 AM CDT

    Uhhhh Drew. That was a fucking punk ass move.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....writing that piece on Friedman, calling for his resignation. What the fuck do you have to do with it? I'm really just blow away by this shit. Why the fuck do you care? Have your opinions. But calling on someone to get shit canned just to make a name for yourself and promote your new site-- thats fucking weak.
    I've defended you many times in the past, but come on. You just painted yourself in a whole different light. Now you will be seen as the squealing rat. If thats how you wanna role in life, fine. But expect a fallout.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:04:57 AM CDT

    BTW Moriarty your site SUCKS!

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 3:05:51 AM CDT

    I don't know why I said RESIGNATION.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I meant "CALLING FOR HIS FIRING."

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:06:06 AM CDT

    Question:

    by jimbobcooter

    Does Harry have a black box on Moriarty's site?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:07:34 AM CDT

    FookU

    by rutgerman

    Hey dickweed, all it takes is one loose workprint to make its way to the internet. And I fail to see how you're gonna come and kick my ass when you can't even put together a proper sentence. Have fun jerking yourself off, take care now ;)

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:09:21 AM CDT

    Rutgerman, my wife takes care of the jerking off.

    by fooku

    I can't many a sentence together but since I called your little bluff we see who the real pussy is here. Fucking Pussy.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:10:47 AM CDT

    And if you wanna discuss this subject in a more civilized...

    by derlanghaarige

    ...environment, just come to The Zone!
    http://zone.aintitcool.com

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:11:26 AM CDT

    No edit button sucks!!!

    by fooku

    Because I can put a fucking sentence together. I just can't undo fat fingering. You're still a fucking bitch Rutgerman.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:11:43 AM CDT

    drew you gotta have a thick skin for tb is all

    by drturing

    shit most of the readers here miss you. badly. i mean seriously, script girl and merrick? you have a good weekend, too.

    and the one thing that no one sees at all here is what's more dangerous: hollywood have done nothing to prevent creating a generation of kids who think they are ENTITLED to content free, and that goes for movies now, too. people love going to the movies, but in forcing consumers to buy DVD to fuel ten years of short term growth, and by actually agreeing to put movies on cellphones and whatnot, the studios have totally fucked themselves. the real problem with movie piracy isn't theatrical release, cause of course people will go see the dark knight three times in a theater... it's when DVD is the plan to make a profit, and a whole generation who thinks that movies aren't worth effort. like your average 18 year old film fanatic today wasn't born when ET came out, and have no fucking idea what it means that to watch the holy mountain for thirty years was a fucking QUEST on par with searching for the holy grail.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:12:03 AM CDT

    The Zone is for pussies.

    by fooku

  • Apr 04, 2009 3:12:25 AM CDT

    The top ten movies

    by toonol

    ARE available for download, illegally. I'm not sure stating an obvious fact should be illegal in and of itself.

    That said, I'm sure every reviewer on AICNs staff has watched pirated movies and clips. There are often illegal youtube copies embedded in articles here. I'd just keep my mouth shut, if I were them. (That sounds like a threat! I don't mean that, just as friendly advice on how to handle this touchy situations.)

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:13:03 AM CDT

    Nobody cares about this clusterfuck. No.Body.

    by motoko kusanagi

    And what the hell was so comlicated about TDK?!? That Fox reviewer needs to be fired for being a dumbass.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:14:01 AM CDT

    &.... haey TheRealMoriarty

    by the dum guy

    you should have never left...things have changed since you left.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:15:39 AM CDT

    Real pieces of shit on this board

    by nivekj

    Amen, rutgerman. These assholes are giving, and have been giving, talkbackers a bad name. I've been going to this site since '98, the Episode I days. And I've watched these forums get worse and worse.
    I've been banned twice. For stupid fucking bullshit, mind you, nowhere near close to some of the shit these guys spew from their fingertips. Fuck a workprint. Fuck a test screening. The movie's gonna come out one way or the other, and until then, all this shit is pointless jerk-off material. And not even good jerk-off material. Not even Sears Catalog jerk-off material.
    I remember reading ABOUT the Avatar scriptment on Corona Coming Attractions. I remember reading MAYBE Freddy vs. Jason would hire writers. I remember reading PERHAPS Meet Joe Black would have the Episode I trailer.
    These little shitheads don't know a Damn Thing about that, and any nebulous codes of honor, TalkBack honor mind you, are long gone. Both twits that got me banned at least apologize to me afterwards.
    If I got into a Talkback fight, motherfuckers knew how to use a fucking search bar to prove their point. And this is back in the old NetZero, AltaVista free Internet days, where any broke piece of shit could get access.
    And even then, there were manners. There were interesting comments. There was correct spelling. And stupid, pathetic, inbred pieces of shit got banned or booted. You could ACCIDENTALLY repeat a talkback, and get banned.
    SO, yeah, rutgerman, you got a point. Moderation is in order on this site. People do say what-the-fuck-ever, with nothing to back it up, or for no reason except to jag off or blow off steam.
    You don't like this website? You disagree with their ethics? Read a fucking issue of EW. Otherwise, make your point and move on. I fucking hate the Internet, and you pieces of shit are the reason why.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:16:29 AM CDT

    It’s miles easier to understand than "The Dark Knight,"

    by mattmanreturns

    and tremendously more emotional." BWAHAHA. Being easier to understand doesn't make it better. And more emotional? If you call a forced romance with no buildup emotional... okay. This guy should be fired just for being an idiot. The workprint was a steaming pile and there are no 'buts' about that. I hope the reshoots can fix it, but I doubt it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:18:15 AM CDT

    This place has really gone to the dogs.

    by playkins

    Harry, you've posted several early reviews of unreleased films, most notable EPISODE 2 which you bragged to the entire world about seeing. How's this different?

    I think it's a shit thing that this movie got out so early, but to call for the head of a reporter for reviewing it is DOGSHIT. It's GRADE A, TRIPLE-TAPERED DOGSHIT with FLIES.

    Fuck AICN.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:19:15 AM CDT

    and am i the only one who remembers

    by drturing

    harry knowles' natalie portman story where her and her friend made him a special card during a slumber party? i know that was deleted, and i just want to have someone tell me i didnt hallucinate it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:21:28 AM CDT

    Gambit = Han Solo

    by bruticus

    Anyone else catch this vibe? I found quite a few moments of the movie to be heavily inspired by star wars...

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:23:15 AM CDT

    I don't get your logic Mori...

    by darthbakpao

    Leaked scripts are STOLEN properties, similar to leaked workprints, it is illegal. IF you write/received reviews based on STOLEN scripts, then tell me, how's that different with writing/receiving reviews based on leaked workprints?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:26:55 AM CDT

    DarthBakpao, they will tell you that it's not illegal.

    by fooku

    Moriarty has been busy justifying himself over and over. It is the same thing but since it's released to the wild rather than one individual somehow it's different apparently. Whatever.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:30:27 AM CDT

    Fuck you too NivekJ.

    by fooku

    I mean you wanted to be flamed right? Rest assured I can call you an asshole and a douche bag and not only spell it correctly but use proper grammar as well.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:36:54 AM CDT

    Proper grammar

    by nivekj

    You forgot a comma after 'flamed', pussy.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:39:46 AM CDT

    FookU

    by darthbakpao

    What i see here is someone who defends himself more and more into a corner

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:42:26 AM CDT

    TheRealMoriarty, WITH THAT QUARTER....

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    I can still afford a better looking mail order bride then the one who shat out "your" kids.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:43:18 AM CDT

    Oh Harry.... take a deep breath

    by ricardoflynn

    Take a deep breath, step back and read your whole article again.

    "Fox 411 on Foxnews.com - an entirely separate company from 20th Century Fox"

    Yes Harry, but both owned by News Corp.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:45:18 AM CDT

    "Stolen Movie"

    by bruticus

    I don't understand the use of this word. "Stolen" or "Theft" in this type of situation. Maybe someone can clear this up for me but to me. As far as I know it's not illegal to download a movie. I mean anyone can download something by accident. Or have someone rickroll them into downloading something they wren't expecting. What IS illegal is SHARING the movie. And SHARING the movie is NOT theft. Is it? Sharing is illegally distributing. So why do we ever use the word "STOLE" or "THEFT"?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:51:28 AM CDT

    So Freidmans article was not a piece on the realities of downloa

    by dailysportspages

    So Freidmans article was not a piece on the realities of downloading?

    Thats what it looked like to me.
    At least mixed in with the Wolverine review.
    It looks like he took advantage of the situation and made a conscious decision to go into this world and report on it.
    Isnt that what journalists do?

    Ive read the stories of writers living on the street with the homeless in order to make their article/book about the subject more realistic.


    Furthermore, this patently hypocritical and obviously misplaced UNrighteous indignation... is simply fucking retarded.

    The LAW.... are you guys really hanging your hat on something being against the fucking LAW?

    Have you ever watched an episode of Bill Mahers show?
    The guy admits to smoking pot all the time.
    Pot is illegal, yes even in California unless you have a prescription.
    OMG he's breaking the lawlz.


    Im not going to sit here and repeat what everyone has already said about Moriarty in the past... i think most of us have a clear understand of that by now.
    What I will say is that there is only two reasons I can figure for Mori, Beaks, etc... acting like they are acting and calling for a mans job.

    1. Its FOX, so fuck em... we all hate FOX so lets take a moment to loosen up the gastric bypass belt and let out some of that pent up triple regurgitated vomit thats patiently stored away for these types of moments.

    2. They fucked over one of your pals, so payback's a bitch... and her names AICN.

    Of course its most likely a little bit of both.
    But please, spare everyone the melodramatic bullshit about the poor workers on-set who are losing their lunch every time someone downloads a movie.


    Piracy doesnt hurt their business one bit.
    Folks who download movies fall into 4 categories.

    1. Rabid fans who cant wait for it to come out in theaters, so they download it to satisfy their fandom... but then watch it in the theaters the day it comes out because they want to watch it in all its intended movie theater glory.

    2. Folks who never had any intention of going to the theater and paying for the movie to begin with.

    3. People who are curious about the movie, but not curious enough to spend 10 bucks a seat to see if it sucks or not. Then once watching it at home on their small monitors and under ty resolution and tinny sound... they might decide its worth going to the theater and paying for it.

    4. People who want to watch a movie that the was released for a limited run and in limited cities... or maybe not released in your state/country at all. Some of these movies dont even get a DVD release, ever.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:55:21 AM CDT

    HERE'S A QUARTER OF MCWEENY'S SCRIPT PAVLOV'S DOGS....

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    The white parts are the real script....

    http://geocities.com/drewmcweenylovescock/pavlovreview.htm

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:56:32 AM CDT

    "you can get a blow job"

    by one_guy_from_andromeda

    Really taking the high road here, are ya Mori xD What an asshole...

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:57:03 AM CDT

    NivekJ.

    by fooku

    Go fuck yourself, bitch.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:59:21 AM CDT

    comment moderation is for pussies cause

    by drturing

    what we have here, sadly and for better or worse, in talkback is pure democracy, even if it's insane. comment moderated sites become full of syncophantic douches and inside jokes and little cliques and people purposely posting the comment that will get moderated up. at aicn anything goes. you want to get attention? then be smart and clever enough to do so.

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  • and the downloading phenomenon mixed in with WV workprint taken as an example. To call for the guy to be fired is unfucking professional, it's the nadir of 15 years of this site reports. Moriarty, you should be ashamed of yourself

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:12:11 AM CDT

    So let me get this straight...

    by sleeperkid

    ...Harry reviewing an illegal screening of AOTC is ok, but one of us reviewing an illegal screening of WOLVERINE is deplorable? I'm assuming 99.9 % of the folks who've seen the workprint didn't STEAL it, which is the apparent difference vtw Harry and the guy who made off with the WOLVERINE print. So why forbid a review from a fan who, say, watched it at a friend's house just like Harry did with AOTC?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:14:39 AM CDT

    Harry avatar vomiting

    by theplant

    just clearly, shows exactly what this site has become.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:15:27 AM CDT

    you people are all missing the point

    by brainfart

    The issue is quality control. I wanna see my favorite fictional characters brought to life on the big screen, the ones i fell in love with reading about as a kid and still now as an adult. Now why would you make up a new story change the characters and make up new ones. What are they gaining?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:27:17 AM CDT

    To make Wolverine a success...

    by theplant

    All they needed was to use the Miller / Claremont mini series, and incorporate the Weapon X origin in flashbacks, and presto, they had a 60 millions $ budgeted movie making 500 millions at the BO. But no, they had to listen to Harry Knowles, Moriarty, and all the fanboys, and incorporate 572 mutants from the comics in the storyline so that they wouldn't complain on AICN about "niaaaahhh niaaahhhh Gambit is missing waaaaa waaaa". Harry, you disgust me. Moriarty, you misuse the stupid influence you have on studios. If any super hero movie sucks, IT'S BECAUSE OF AICN INFLUENCE. YOU ARE GUILTY !

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:27:55 AM CDT

    one_guy_from_andromeda, MCWEENY IS ALL ABOUT THE HIGH ROAD...

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    What do you expect from a University dropout? Of course he'll come back with "well, at least I was at University" which is like me saying that at least I sent my resume to NASA. The fact is that this douchebag is pushing 40, has spent the better part of the last decade shilling the scripts that Scott Swan writes, has 3 TV episodes to his name and his only means of income is selling advertising space on his shitty website and the money his mail order bride makes from performing in bestiality flicks.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:50:47 AM CDT

    If adamantium is so undestructible

    by darthbakpao

    then why can it be melted into liquid and injected into Logan's bone structures?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:51:16 AM CDT

    Man, it's like you guys don't like it here..

    by jersquall

    I see the same names week after week saying the same old thing. Cursing the writers. looking for something to hate. some of you are the reason things are bad here. I dought this was Harrys vision of AICN.. Some are calling for heads to roll? Wow, Where would you go to shit on people then? Watch and you'll see in a few minutes who i'm talking about.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:00:53 AM CDT

    DarthBakpao

    by brainfart

    good question. Adamantium is refined as ore like any other metal but once it is refined and liquified it will become adamantium when cooled.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:01:17 AM CDT

    did i just fall for a geek test?

    by brainfart

  • Apr 04, 2009 5:03:42 AM CDT

    SO.... THIS IS THE ANGRY TALKBACK THEN

    by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights

  • Apr 04, 2009 5:03:53 AM CDT

    lame

    by stallonegger

    the indignant tone in these "editorials" is just sad.downloading shit is here to stay. who cares? We don't all get free blu-rays every week to review. That's something for nothing too.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:12:28 AM CDT

    BRUTICUS

    by cranga

    Everyone confuses the terms. When they talk of theft or stolen workprints, scripts etc, they're just getting theft mixed up with copyright infringement. This is where the legal aspect of it is important. Theft requires the taking of something, without permission, and with the intent to keep it forever. Copyright infringement occurs when something is copied without the right (hence copyright). Copyright infringement can occur in a number of situations, including copying something or sharing something copied. Downloading a copyrighted movie without permission is copyright infringement, but it is not theft. Don't ever get the two mixed up.

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  • with new technologies and distribution methods... as for Wolverine workprint; it's perfectly enjoyable except for the last 20 minutes - if they've sorted that, they've got a 3 out of 5 stars film.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:22:21 AM CDT

    The Hulk Workprint

    by headpiecetothestaffofra

    Moriarty chastises those who download Hulk workprint (June 9, 2003):
    http://tiny.cc/49Iee

    Moriarty apologizes (June 11, 2003):
    http://tiny.cc/8Osls

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:27:07 AM CDT

    Moriarty only apologised

    by penhapus

    for being mean to people who sent in reviews; certainly not encouraging downloads.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:31:15 AM CDT

    JJ Abrams' Superman Script

    by headpiecetothestaffofra

    Also, here's Moriarty's scathing review (justifiably) of JJ Abrams' script for the proposed Superman film in 2002. I'm sure it was sent to him from Abrams himself or the President of Warner Brothers (as they would be the rightful copyrite owners and receiving it from anyone else would be a violation of US copyrite law or someone's employment contract with Warner Brothers):

    http://tinyurl.com/ck8jr

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:34:43 AM CDT

    wolverine

    by klag

    I don't understand my copy had some things missing and a cartoon ending does anyone have a proper copy cos i don't want to spend money on films also does anyone have the new star wars by the cloverleaf director.
    fuck,writing is hard.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:35:01 AM CDT

    New issue of deadpool

    by brainfart

    On the cover he is decapitated holding his own head and winking

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:35:59 AM CDT

    This is the last straw for me.

    by unbelievable

    I've been a regular reader since the days when the most interesting thing about this site was the remixed Star Wars gifs Harry made himself. The leaked Starship Troopers bug designs - all that great, subversive stuff. But this calling for someone's job for reviewing a leaked movie is jaw-droppingly, disgracefully hypocritical - no amount of justification can change that. It's bullshit, and the defensive tone of the editorial staff makes it obvious that they realize it, too. The whole thing astounds and disappoints me to the point where I feel ill thinking that I am supporting the site by contributing to the advertising revenue. I will never come here again. I am through. There are so many better sites for film news these days, and I'm off to one of them right now.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:42:13 AM CDT

    Abrams' reaction to Moriarty's script review

    by headpiecetothestaffofra

    http://tinyurl.com/db6u5g

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:55:35 AM CDT

    AMEN!!! NIVEK!!!

    by champvinyl

    Sing it brotha!!!

    i hate what the internet has become

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:01:38 AM CDT

    I already said that...

    by emeraldboy

    I feel Harry is new gif revolting.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:04:50 AM CDT

    There

    by cobbio

    I saw it and thought most of the scenes looked pretty good, though I'm glad they did re-shoots. It definitely needed more.
    A finished movie with more effects and scenes could mold this into something much, much better. I'll probably be there opening day.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:05:59 AM CDT

    LONG LIVE MEMFLEX

    by buffywrestling

    Do you guys remember that shit when he got fired? Talkbackers were up in arms, man. I like those days, when TBers rallied around.

    It's not the same anymore...

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:06:25 AM CDT

    Legality of AOTC review

    by son of the suns

    To quote "I saw Star Wars Episode Two: Attack of the Clones hours ago. The ‘how’ of that will be a thing of mystery buried in a passed piece of paper from my book signing with a hotel, a room number and a time listed upon it. You don’t want to know about that room or the person(s) in that room, you want to know about Episode Two."... Sounds legal. Right? So, let me put this question out there. If someone approached me, with a time and place and 'wolverine' written on it, I go and watch it, then review it. That's perfectly fine. Should however exactly the same thing be done via an MSN message with a link to a file, that's entirely illegal? If AICN can't see how people are entirely confused by this then, in my opinion, they are VERY ignorant.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:06:27 AM CDT

    Playkins - Episode 2

    by headgeek

    First off - I was shown EPISODE 2. The print I saw was never released to the public, was placed safely back in Lucasfilm's hands - and my source was never found. (Contrary to what you may read on the internet).

    Journalists and Reporters often have sources - and watching what those sources show you is "fair game" - so long as no monetary loss can be shown.

    Friedman did not have a "Source" - he downloaded an illegal print, then bragged that he was going to download another. And he works for the parent company involved in all of this.

    My punishment for seeing EPISODE 2 - because FOX doesn't control AINT IT COOL, INC - was basically to rarely if ever be invited to press screenings - which I am banned from Locally. That's all they could do to me because... I NEVER HAD POSSESSION of the film. I NEVER RECEIVED IT. I was shown it. NOW... they could have put me in jail to reveal my sources, who took great personal risk and peril to show me the film, but it is a journalist's job to stay true to their sources and not roll over on them.

    Harry

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:07:22 AM CDT

    CreepyThinMansPreciousLittleLife

    by the curious dr humpp

    Come on man, that's the mother of his children you're talking about. There's a certain line you do not cross. And you just did. Sorry, call me an a-hole for saying this, but that's just how I feel.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:11:01 AM CDT

    I am unbelievable on this one...

    by marcus[g]

    Calling for someone to be fired over watching a leaked movie is quite a bit over the top. Suck up your pseudo-righteuos rage and think about what kind of impact losing your job can have on ones life. It surely was stupid of him to review the movie at this point and such behaviour does warrant some kind of penalty, but the studios are no saints themselves so keep things in perspective.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:11:55 AM CDT

    no subject

    by son of the suns

    "Journalists and Reporters often have sources - and watching what those sources show you is "fair game" - so long as no monetary loss can be shown."... How do yo ushow the monetary loss of a negative review on an unfinished film?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:14:59 AM CDT

    no subject

    by son of the suns

    "I NEVER HAD POSSESSION of the film. I NEVER RECEIVED IT. I was shown it."

    So, let me get this straight. My friend Joe invites me round. Shows me Wolverine. I never have it, or have downloaded it. I'm okay to review it?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:16:32 AM CDT

    yep...

    by yubnubrocks

    That sounds like what he's saying. And true, how do you show the monetary loss of a negative review on an unfinished film??

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:17:41 AM CDT

    RE: Harry watching AOTC

    by headpiecetothestaffofra

    Unless Harry's source for the AOTC print was authorized by George Lucas to show the print to Knowles, then it is either a violation of copyright law or the source's employment contract and possible criminal violation of trade secret law (or all three). It just is, whether you call yourself a journalist or not.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:18:56 AM CDT

    If the general word of mouth...

    by penhapus

    is that Wolverine is terrible (and that word of mouth is generated from negative reviews of a work print) and people don't go to the cinema to see it, I think that qualifies as 'monetary loss'. I don't care, because it's a not very good film that AICN are defending because they are gay for Hugh Jackman, but it will cost Fox £££ (sorry, $$$).

    I still think you can run reviews of it detached from how people saw it, and I think Harry & co. are wussing out by not doing so.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:23:31 AM CDT

    the clusterfuck

    by theexterminator

    continues

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:26:56 AM CDT

    Wow.

    by swoomustdie

    Calling for someones head that did the same thing this site was built on. I'm near-speechless.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:30:06 AM CDT

    Here's why AICN's argument is ridiculous ...

    by headpiecetothestaffofra

    According to AICN (Moriarty, Harry, Beaks) ...

    If a guy working on special effects for the film Wolverine takes a rough cut of the film and uploads it to the internet (anonymously, and against the studio's wishes) and then I download a copy on and then subsequently write a review of the film ... then I have committed a sin worthy of firing (or criminal investigation, or any other number of bad outcomes).

    BUT ...

    If that very same special effects guy takes a DVD copy of that same rough cut to Harry's house (anonymously, and against the studio's wishes), shows it to Harry, and then Knowles proceeds to write a review of the rough cut on AICN ... then that is perfectly reasonable and well within the bounds of journalist ethics (or whatever the hell kind of argument he's trying to make).

    It's ridiculous. Either they are both legal or they are both illegal. Either they are both ethical or they are both unethical. There's no difference (legally or morally).

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:35:50 AM CDT

    This is someone's career and family

    by jimmy_009

    Why don't you let the parties involved decide what should be done instead of calling for a fucking witch hunt to have the guy lose his job. You're not even involved in this. I'm really disappointed that you're trying to have someone's career and livelihood ruined so you can be on a high horse. If he screwed up then he'll probably pay for it. Roiling up the masses against this poor schlub is uncalled for.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:35:56 AM CDT

    HeadpieceToTheStaffOfRa

    by penhapus

    The distinction is that with the former, only negative word of mouth will impact on box office. With the latter - and I know a fair chunk of downloaders wouldn't go to the cinema anyway, but... - it has an affect directly (how much is another debate) on the box office.

    AICN's attitude is still all over the shop, and since when has Harry been a journalist? I missed that one...

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:39:37 AM CDT

    headpiece, exactly...

    by champvinyl

    they're arguing for their own position, i.e. the fatass movie critic mentality. If they dont get off their ass and someone comes over and *SHOWS* them the film, and i *of course* know noooothing then its alright. If however I'm not a lazy tard and go download the thing and review it, I'm a criminal. Mostly because i might threatened their positions.

    AICN is just a site i come to now to watch the monkeys throw shit... and the "King-kongs" (yeah i'm talking to you harry), are obviously the biggest shit-flingers of the bunch.

    It's kinda depressing to see a bunch of delusional fllm nerds fall so far down the rabbit hole.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:41:33 AM CDT

    penhapus - you missed my point

    by headpiecetothestaffofra

    What you say is exactly right, in regards to the disgruntled special effects worker in my hypothetical. But Harry and Moriarty aren't attacking that person. They are directing their attack at the film reviewer; the film reviewer that did the exact same thing AICN has done for years.

    Regardless of their stance on the workprint leaker, they are calling for criminal and fiscal (loss of employment) penalties on the movie critic. And calling him unethical.

    It doesn't make any sense.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:41:43 AM CDT

    ace

    by champvinyl

    its because from day one, this site has been run by neckbeard-film-nerd-douchebags... who want to be "In the biz".

    It's sad because they still cling to it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:45:42 AM CDT

    harry is bitter and frustrated...

    by emeraldboy

    cause he couldnt get his production career off the ground. Harry knowles is a bullshit artist. pure and simple. fox has never forgiven him about Rollerball remake. which was a terrible film. Review the movie. cranks taking potshots at hollywood holds no interest for anyone.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:49:01 AM CDT

    Ace of Wands - Exactly

    by jimmy_009

    This site was born out of "illegal" information. I can't fathom what is possessing someone to not only condemn someone FROM THIS SITE from reviewing it but actually calling for the person to lose his job like we're the morality police or something? I don't agree with what the guy did, but to read that updated post calling for the guy to be sacked just rubbed me the wrong way. Not what I thought this site was about.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:50:39 AM CDT

    That reads wrong

    by jimmy_009

    Should read "I can't fathom what is possessing someone FROM THIS SITE to not only condemn..." There. Now it makes sense.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:51:31 AM CDT

    Harry, shit, man you fucked up on this...

    by cameron1

    Your AOTC argument is based one thing only - that you are somehow more worthy of seeing the film because you know people willing to do illegal things to get a hold of said film.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:57:26 AM CDT

    I am reading this talkback..

    by emeraldboy

    and the conclusion is that this site has been turned into a place film hatred.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:03:23 AM CDT

    If murdoch..

    by emeraldboy

    does sell 20th century Fox. who will buy it. nobody. and it will be shut and all of the people will lose thier jobs. If this site keeps up its attacks on fox, I would strongly urge those sacked workers to sue this site and its owner.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:11:19 AM CDT

    A lot of you fail at logic...

    by sebilrazen

    I think the beef is, not only does he download a movie from his own parent company that they have decided not to show him and he reviews it giving it a decidedly positive review, but he also advocates, through indications of his plans, downloading a film from his parent company's competitor - to me that's where the line is crossed.Mori has admitted downloading movies before their US release, guess what, he probably bought the movie when it was made available. I do the same thing - I downloaded the entire first season of True Blood - the same time I pre-ordered the season on Blu-ray.This is a non-stop argument though, it's like religion, you can't use logic on some people.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:11:32 AM CDT

    This talkback is legendaty, Drew gets owned!!

    by dancingforever

  • Apr 04, 2009 7:12:50 AM CDT

    for some people its ethics, for others its kinda personal.

    by champvinyl

  • Apr 04, 2009 7:21:28 AM CDT

    Sebilrazen

    by jimmy_009

    A) I understand what the "beef" is. My problem is with how AICN is calling for this person to lose his job, his very livelihood. This is irresponsible as this site has fuck nothing to do with Fox and their rules and what goes one with internal company matters. AICN and it's writers are in a position to influence a large amount of people.If Fox suddenly gets wind that there's a huge outcry to sack this reporter, do you think they'll think twice? They'll nip it in the bud before they get bad (or worse) PR. This is someone's life AICN is fucking with, over something they do themselves. Fuck that. And B) just cause you "buy it later" doesn't make it any more legal. It's like saying you can go steal a Hershey bar as long as you buy another one later.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:22:09 AM CDT

    It's about the "presentation" of the films

    by buffywrestling

    I can understand it, in a sense. Some guy brings a sneak/prev to your house vs sketchy download.

    Both are reviewed but I think it's how you have retrieved the film that makes things a little more cut and dry, not the review itself.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:28:11 AM CDT

    you guys all suck

    by thedudeintheshadows

    i used to come to this site for cool news about movies/tv shows/mostly honest reviews.
    now not only is harry and everyone else under the big ol corporate chicken wing writing anything to get a web hit for some dumb toy advertisement,
    but here i am actually scanning a talkback policed by one of harry's minions defending himself like he were fighting a godamn tiger with a toothpick.
    not only do i feel stupid for caring about this dumb bullshit, but it makes me feel like you ALL have forgotten the fucking REASON you stupid nerdfucks go see movies in the first place.
    is it not to trick your mind into escaping into a reality that is not your own?
    cinema should be what it used to be, something you enjoy personally. yet, history has proven that not only is everyone a critic, but they're all right...
    right, just like i'm fucking sinbad making a career comeback...
    on numerous occasions on this very site i have voiced my own opinion as foolishly as most of you. but only until now have i realized how foolhardy and, for lack of a better word, RETARDED, it was to do so. there isn't a single one of you, (harry and co. included) that could even slightly sway my opinion in the least. i truly hope that somebody who reads this can at the very least TRY and fathom exactly what im trying to convey in this text (another reminder to you dumb fucks who think they are SAYING anything by TYPING, when in fact they are not). the saddest part is that i'm not even a third of the age of cinema, yet, i can honestly say i get more out of film then all of you combined. guess why... i dont have a stake in it; not opinion, money, reputation, etc.
    which makes me beg the question that most of you have forgotten-
    what the fuck is this website's purpose?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:28:15 AM CDT

    you guys all suck

    by thedudeintheshadows

    i used to come to this site for cool news about movies/tv shows/mostly honest reviews.
    now not only is harry and everyone else under the big ol corporate chicken wing writing anything to get a web hit for some dumb toy advertisement,
    but here i am actually scanning a talkback policed by one of harry's minions defending himself like he were fighting a godamn tiger with a toothpick.
    not only do i feel stupid for caring about this dumb bullshit, but it makes me feel like you ALL have forgotten the fucking REASON you stupid nerdfucks go see movies in the first place.
    is it not to trick your mind into escaping into a reality that is not your own?
    cinema should be what it used to be, something you enjoy personally. yet, history has proven that not only is everyone a critic, but they're all right...
    right, just like i'm fucking sinbad making a career comeback...
    on numerous occasions on this very site i have voiced my own opinion as foolishly as most of you. but only until now have i realized how foolhardy and, for lack of a better word, RETARDED, it was to do so. there isn't a single one of you, (harry and co. included) that could even slightly sway my opinion in the least. i truly hope that somebody who reads this can at the very least TRY and fathom exactly what im trying to convey in this text (another reminder to you dumb fucks who think they are SAYING anything by TYPING, when in fact they are not). the saddest part is that i'm not even a third of the age of cinema, yet, i can honestly say i get more out of film then all of you combined. guess why... i dont have a stake in it; not opinion, money, reputation, etc.
    which makes me beg the question that most of you have forgotten-
    what the fuck is this website's purpose?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:28:23 AM CDT

    ok, buffywrestling but what if that dodgy guy then..

    by cameron1

    takes it round to Mori's house and Devin from Chud's and Nathan Rabin's and so on and so on, are we saying that just because these guys review films on websites they somehow have more right than a general member of he public to see an illegal copy of the film? What if Harry was offered the oppurtunity to see AOTC and review it but the contact had uploaded it to rapidshare and given only Harry the password to unrar the file, would that be ok for Harry to review? I'd really like to see what Harry has to say about that actually.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:34:17 AM CDT

    Here's what I see...

    by jimmy_009

    AICN catches Fox and a Fox reporter in an ethically compromising position > AICN feels morally righteous > AICN acts on this moral righteousness to make themselves feel superior > AICN puts the call out to fire a reporter. Sad, what's next, AICN files a lawsuit? Just be happy that you called out Fox, everyone knows it, and let it be. You start being the morality police demanding retribution and you can count me out.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:40:21 AM CDT

    Basically...

    by joergn

    you are allowed to talk and write about set-reports, trailers, early screenings and everything that makes you watch the movie but if you criticize a almost finished product and it turns out to suck, it´s illegal or not ok? Let´s be quite honest 10 extra minutes couldn´t help "Ghost Rider", "Electra" or any other of these movies to turn out any better. Seemingly Fox is just doing a lousy job all around in making quality products, in saving these products and in dealing with the aftershocks of their failure. Come on, a reporter of the very own company (and no matter if splitted into 200 different smaller companies, it still Fox) reviewing the downloaded movie? How stupid can these poeple possibly be?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:42:32 AM CDT

    jimmy_009

    by sebilrazen

    AICN is basically saying that News Corp should apply the same treatment in similar cases. A projectionist let loose an early review of Fantastic Four (against their wishes) and Fox got them fired, one of their own reviewers reviewed an early cut of Wolverine (against their wishes) so Fox should fire them. Otherwise it's a case of "it's not breaking the law if we do it, but is if anyone else does." I'm not saying they need to fire him, I'm saying I'll be happy if they get Jesse Morrison his job back and reimburse him for wages lost since the Fantastic Four debacle. Again, that's my opinion. However, I think if Fox takes no action on their reviewer, they should wave all rights to prosecute the sharing of the movie in the first place and issue a public apology to Paramount for the mentioning of downloading their movie.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:50:11 AM CDT

    Fox can go and....

    by kizeesh

    ...eat a dick.
    They've squandered all my good favour with crap re-makes shoddy scripts and butchered concepts.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:51:09 AM CDT

    Harry NUKED THE FRIDGE !!

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 7:51:58 AM CDT

    Heh

    by jdb1972

    What's funny is that Friedman is a reflexive Hollywood leftist who never misses a chance to inject his politics into a column. Maybe there's a future for him as a contributor at AICN?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:56:36 AM CDT

    jimmy_009

    by sebilrazen

    about B)I think the candy bar analogy is shit, but agree with your point in principle. It seems you're arguing that there is only "right" vs. "wrong" with no degrees of variance, I disagree with that. In my opinion there's 3 levels: wrong - downloading with no intent to actually pay for the files you're getting; bad - downloading files before they are legally made available and actually paying for them once they are legally made available in digital or physical media(paying for same quality or better); and finally good - waiting for the media to be legally made available before obtaining at all.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:59:32 AM CDT

    I'm with headpiece

    by cool_britannia79

    watching a movie or version of a movie that you are not authorized by the studio to watch is either ethical or not. There is no distinction between AOTC and Wolverine. Harry and co, your arguments have been stretched so thin you sound like parodies of yourselves. The guy tried to put a positive spin on what is undeniably a completely shit movie. So he should be fired?! You guys do the same thing every day! In fact, AOTC was you spinning a shit movie!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:02:26 AM CDT

    However you justify it Sebilrazen

    by jimmy_009

    People usually justify why they aren't doing something that's bad. I'm not here to judge you, I could care less what you do. But the candy bar analogy is apt. You are getting something that is NOT what you are paying for. You are paying for ONE specific thing, a movie on a dvd/blu ray. You are GETTING two things, one of which you did not pay for. The analogy is completely relevant.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:03:51 AM CDT

    The Curious Dr Humpp, FEDEX DELIVERED HIS WHORE C.O.D. AND…..

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    He just ignores the fact that "his" kids are black because he can't handle the truth that the mongrel slut likes taking nubian cock in her rancid STD riddled
    baby wallet while face down in a garbage can because it’s more romantic then a night with that fat whiney pussy she married for her Green Card.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:05:37 AM CDT

    By your logic Sebilrazen

    by jimmy_009

    If you paid to see it in theaters that would give you the right to walk into a store and take a movie on DVD. Same logic as if you paid to have it on DVD you can take a digital copy.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:14:24 AM CDT

    Cam

    by buffywrestling

    But, so far as we know, that didn't happen. That is a "What if?" scenario and not an actual "This happened." Sure , you could speculate til the cows come home but Harry gave his side and he presented - with proof - Friedman's side. It's inconsquential to trump up a larger scenario than what was presented. It just becomes gossip at that point, imo.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:17:41 AM CDT

    Ace of Wands, THE ISSUE OF MCWEENY RIPPING OFF FLICKER.....

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    Came up back in 2005 when I saw the synopsis of Cigarette Burns and immediately knew that the whiney fat pussy had ripped off Theodore Roszak’s novel which I had read in 1993. McWeeny’s from the James Gunn school of complete and total unoriginality. The only difference is that Gunn blew the right people while Drew’s been sucking cock in all the wrong places.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:23:37 AM CDT

    What about HD-DVD....

    by mindworm22

    ...that's the one that killed me. Harry was sooooooo over his head when he accepted bribes from the HD-DVD camp and reported on tech he had no clue about (i.e. "Backwards compatability just feels right!"). I love me some blu-ray....and Harry can suck it when he specifically talks about the high road. Big time.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:24:02 AM CDT

    We shoud have a Hollywood gossip TB!!

    by buffywrestling

    I think we are on the right track so far and it can only get more JUICY!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:41:25 AM CDT

    My point, Buffy,was that...

    by cameron1

    Harry's defense of him reviewing AOTC is based on an incredibly flimsy and half arsed distinction between Harry getting to watch something illegally by virtue of his connections and the rest of us getting to watch something illegally by virtue of our internet connections

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:46:34 AM CDT

    Look out, Hollywood! Bit Torrent's gon' get your mama!

    by blackmantis

    Bit torrent will be the end of Hollywood. Your monopoly on distribution has come to an end. Long live the net!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:48:38 AM CDT

    I know Harry, I much prefer sitting in a strange hotel room watc

    by bobwinters5

    You know Harry, like you did for the Episode II "early cut" review.


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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:49:46 AM CDT

    hing an unfinished cut of a major film.

    by bobwinters5

    Damn break.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:53:37 AM CDT

    Does Friedman have a family to feed during this recession?

    by balzacs_ballsac

    And McWeeny is calling for him to be sacked over a POSITIVE review? Hey, McWeeny, piss off! Who the fuck asked YOU? This should be simple slap on the wrist if anything for Friedman and if he gets fired over this shite and his family goes through hardship because YOU want to latch your bloated jealous ego onto his sudden media infamy, I hope that karma zaps you right back and finds YOU giving those "quarter blowjobs." By the way, in case nobody ever told you... you're a mean arsehole. Go back to shitfix.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:58:39 AM CDT

    I saw it. It's a terrible film

    by browncoatjedi

    Even worse than Fantastic Four and X3. It's fucking boring! The action is tedious. Why did they get Gavin Hood to direct this?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:03:32 AM CDT

    Karma is a Bitch!

    by darth_kaos

    I think Fox is getting what they deserve after the Watchmen bullshit.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:03:55 AM CDT

    AICN's own journalist standards aside...

    by freakemovie

    ...can you believe what a massive idiot Friedman is? Seriously, what on earth was he thinking? Talk about a false sense of job security. Maybe he heard rumors they were going to fire him and decided to burn the place down while he still could. That's the only rational explanation; otherwise, what an idiot.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:09:22 AM CDT

    Actually Harry, you just hate Fox News

    by zoefan

    So any chance you have to climb all over that organization you will.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:09:34 AM CDT

    NIce one Drew

    by 2leggedfreak

    Your comments on where Ron Wells is now, firmly cements you in my mind as that douche bag character who was the nemesis of Ricky Gervais in Extras. You know the smug twat who had marginally more success than those around him but was in reality a sad sad shite of a man.
    None of the arguments that you or Harry have put up here have any merit. Yep in the cold light of day there could be something for Fox to sort out with Friedman but for you two half-wits to be demanding blood is beyond belief.
    Maybe an apology apropos your Hulk apology would be in order for your condescending and arrogant posts on this talk-back. Better still, just fuck off like you promised you would and stop coming back here trying to generate interest in your immature whitterings.
    On a final note I'd just like to say that the only thing that makes this site in any way relevant nowadays is the talk-backers, be they genius or psychotic. The hosts and contributors to the site are worthless self absorbed losers.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:18:42 AM CDT

    Mori please go home.

    by yoda's ball sack

    You claim to be a talented writer, yet you come back on the AIC talkbacks to bitch at some of the other talkbackers, calling them cookies and cunts. You are just sinking down to there level and its really unprofessional. Can't you just move on with your career and leave all this bullshit talkback behind? I am not taking a shot at you here, just my 2 cents.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:20:35 AM CDT

    If a link is deleted on the web . . .

    by skidmarkedundies

    it isn't gone forever... just saying.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:22:31 AM CDT

    What's the point of AICN, if not the earliest possible

    by creasybear

    looks at movies, especially geek movies? I understand the argument that in this particular case, the print reviewed might no longer be relevant to the finished movie, but in general, I would gladly sacrifice some of the studio-friendly on-set interviews for more bits and pieces of truths that might piss the studios off.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:27:15 AM CDT

    Hey Everyone!

    by wyld stallyns rules

    What's going on in this Talkback?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:28:01 AM CDT

    "calling for someone's job for reviewing a leaked movie" This gu

    by lanalangsucks

    You FUCKS!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:29:13 AM CDT

    Fuck AICN i'm Going to www.NukeTheFridge.com

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 9:29:17 AM CDT

    Fuck AICN i'm Going to www.NukeTheFridge.com

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 9:29:20 AM CDT

    Fuck AICN i'm Going to www.NukeTheFridge.com

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 9:29:59 AM CDT

    And as far as leaked info ruining people's lives,

    by creasybear

    ANY negative review can affect ticket sales, which down the domino-line can cause people to get fired, make less money, whatever. If the number one goal is job security for all filmmakers, then just have every single review be purely positive. Pretend there's no difference between Christopher Nolan and Tim Story, or Guillermo del Toro and Mark Steven Johnson. I really don't understand how a site like this, which should be subversive and fan-centric at all costs, makes the argument that what's bad for certain movie studios is inherently bad for movie fans. Non sequitur.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:30:44 AM CDT

    Fuck AICN i'm Going to www.LatinoReview.com

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 9:32:48 AM CDT

    I'm confused. . .

    by heyscot

    I think what happened with Wolverine is wrong, but I also feel like Fox has been roundly criticized by the community for a lot of different things related to Watchmen and other issues. I think it's wrong to steal, but at what point does this conversation cut off when it comes to sites like this one? There are major spoilers about movies on this site; it's what this site is pretty much about a lot of the time. On the other hand, when AICN posts a spoiler-free review, it's great--I love the reviews that Moriarty, Harry, and others have put up here. Mr. Beaks and Alexandra duPont have also written just amazing reviews. But I guess I don't understand the distinction yet between what happened with Wolverine and what happens daily with movies being spoiled ahead of their release. Why is one okay but the other isn't? Should they be in the same conversation? I respect the contributors on this site because they don't run around just nerd-raging and calling people "cunts." You guys would never act like this to someone's face and, if you did, no one would talk to you.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:33:49 AM CDT

    I don't hate Harry like most of you seem to do.

    by derlanghaarige

    In fact, just don't hate him and sometimes even understand the kind of love he has for movies that some angry nerds otherwise hate. But sometimes I really wish he would keep his answers short, simple and especially logical.
    Like when he explained why AICN didn't cover Bale's behaviour at the T4 set. All he had to say would be: "AICN isn't about celebrity gossip." Or with the ATOC review. Instead of writing some easy deconstructable story about journalism, he had just should have said: "Yeah, that was years ago and I'm not proud of it, but I grew up in this case and don't do this anymore."
    But that's just me.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:34:49 AM CDT

    Yeah, Karma is a bitch all right..

    by stalkeye

    ..especially for Marvel who fucked Kirby,Ditko,Gerber and even Len Wein over. (somewhere, Len is smiling over this shit.)Fox and Marvel can kiss my ass. Piracy is fucked up but so is hollywood putting out shitty movies and remakes.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:35:06 AM CDT

    There is an "I" missing after "In fact".

    by derlanghaarige

  • Apr 04, 2009 9:36:13 AM CDT

    Drew can be thin skinned.

    by sal_bando

    Make a joke about Uncapie and Minor-Jeff having a boxing match, and the winner gets to write for John Carpenter sponsered by Hooked On Phonics-and BAM-- I thought it was funny myself.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:37:10 AM CDT

    Cam

    by buffywrestling

    I get where you are coming from (I think?). You don't think there is distinction between the method (or DELIVERY) of the distribution of leaks. I however, think there is, as I stated re: vs.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:37:14 AM CDT

    In the case of pirating porn..

    by stalkeye

    ..It's more than ok with me. I kinda hate the fact that guys are getting paid copious amounts of $$$ for having too much fun on the job."Yarrgggh"!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:37:29 AM CDT

    Physical Data

    by eonz_higlo

    This is my first post on this site ever. I am a pirate. Now technically, I downloaded the work print. I watched the stupid fucking thing. I want you to tear apart my HDD and point out to me exactly where on that shiny disc that copy was. If you can find it, I will gladly turn myself in to the FBI or FOX or whoever is looking for me. You cannot touch data. It's 1 and 0's on a basic level.

    When's the last time you touched a 1 or a 0? When's the last time you were able to physically reach out and with your finger and touch data and were able to manipulate it without a dozen other mechanical feature to help you along? This whole thing is pointless. Now according to at least one editor, this would not be illegal.

    At first I couldn't believe all the posts on piracy and blah blah blah. Then I thought, surely you were trying to get back at FOX because, I don't know, maybe they had done you harm at sometime or another. But with this new post, I am back to being completely dumbfounded by the staff here.

    Being on a moral high ground isn't what bothers me though. If fact I'm indifferent to what all of the staff has to say, about me or anybody. It's the fact that none of you recognize how naive you are.

    This isn't simply a TB anymore. Despite all the references to cock sucking and mom fucking that some other people have mentioned, there have been huge points made on piracy and lack of copyright management skills by major companies. It may just start with wolverine, but the thoughts and opinions expressed here are valid. Because we are the fucking people. Not them. Not editors, not companies. Us. We are the fucking people. And we dont answer to you.

    I'm not defending or condoning piracy. That's for a single person to decide whether or not they can draw a line at any given point.

    The point here being, regardless of the wolverine movie, major changes need to happen in the online world if people want their shit to remain theirs. If it keeps going unchecked like this, your site will crash due to all the people complaining or cheering on whatever cause they wish to back. So, please, for the love of god...PICK A FUCKING SIDE!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:42:41 AM CDT

    Allison Bales of Reel Talk gave ,AICN a shout-out

    by stalkeye

    for mentioning that the files have a virus that can be tracked to the p2p user.(Bloody Brit Bitch) What a desperate scare tatic these fuckers will come up with yet somewhere there's a copy sitting on their desk.Fox got arrogant with the Watchmen release, now the Rothmen got spanked for acting cute. Ah, life is good.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:43:18 AM CDT

    THIS TALKBACK IS MAD CRAZY!!!!!!

    by chaimbensexyback

    Thanks Fox!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:45:15 AM CDT

    Technically yeah your right.

    by xanthious

    It just seems like the AICN staff are hiding behind technicalities. Sure all the early reviews, pictures, etc weren't against the law, but a good majority weren't things the studios wanted floating around either. So I guess being unethical is fine so much as you just can't be legally held accountable.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:46:54 AM CDT

    Once again, about AOTC

    by bobwinters5

    "I was scared and thrilled to be watching Episode 2. The entire time I was in that hotel room, I was convinced that agents of Lucasfilm were going to knock down the doors and I knew I was being set up for a fall. I mean, it isn’t possible to see STAR WARS early. I know that, but there I was watching it."

    Scared because it was a perfectly legal and non-stolen copy?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:46:58 AM CDT

    But how do I explain this to my kids?

    by kafka07

    Their idol is Roger Friedman and they love Fox news. This will confuse them and I fear now they will break the law too.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:47:53 AM CDT

    for the love of BALE

    by cool_britannia79

    where are the professionals? why aren't they running the site by now? haver you got any idea how fucking distracting it is to try and be reading major scoops on geek movies only to have you pricks walk into my eyeline and preach hypocrisy at me? I've never had a scoop site behave like this. Never. Do you want me to trash your pirate bay? DO YOU?! McG, you got anything to say to these pricks?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:49:21 AM CDT

    Mori, I see your point, but the article doesn't read like that

    by lex romero

    Your point, and some of the other talkbackers point, that Fox needs to fire him or come down hard on him etc is needed because otherwise it shows a "one rule for us, another for them" is sound and I definatly agree. However surely you can see that this explaination did not come through in the article? But rather an attitude that left a bad taste in everyones mouth, an attitude that AICN/hitfix is somehow morally superior because "we don't run illegal reviews" came across, whilst avoiding the issue of AotC that had been raised earlier this week? An attitude that cried out for a man to lose his livelyhood? It's the same kind of horrible attitude you condemn many of the talkbackers for.

    It was the same kind of attitude that permeated the first article, a holier than thou position that anyone who downloads the film is evil and their actions will lead to people losing their jobs. Yet in the same breath admit "well yeah, I've downloaded stuff before". I'd never argue that illegal downloading films/music etc was anything but illegal, and anyone that tries to argue it's ok or "legally grey" is wrong. But the attitude that has come across is extreme. It's not just a "this is illegal, we won't watch/review it". It was an OTT "zomg this is horrible you are evil for doing this I am disgusted!".




    Not to bring up the AotC issue again, but the defense that it was "ok" seems to be splitting hairs. The basic logic that "a man stole an unfinished copy of a film for me and let me watch it in a room then returned it" seems logically unsound. It's essentially saying "it's ok for one or two people to see this illegally and review it, but not for lots of people to see it illegally and review it". It's a seperation of journalist and the general public that doesn't exist. Lets assume it wasn't harry that had been shown the work print of AotC, would AICN have run a review? Looking at how they've reported on the wolverine leaking I'd assume no. Which shows a hideous double standard between what the "media" (which surely AICN never claims to be?) is allowed and what the "general public" is allowed. If the articles had just made this point I wouldn't have been particularly bothered, it's more the fact there is a lot of this mock outrage, claims that you drew were really "angry" and how terrible this is, hyperbolic statements that seem to imply downloading the film will lead to thousands of people that worked on the film with no money or home.

    When all it boils down to is that we have two situations where a man was able to watch an illegal copy of a workprint and write a review. How it was stolen doesn't matter, that it was "put back" doesn't matter, that it wasn't given to other people doesn't matter. At its core Harry and this Fox dude have done the same thing. I think someone else pointed out, would it be ok for someone to send in a wolverine review who watched the film at a friends house but didn't download it himself? Of course not. And thats' where the hypocricy lies with this.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:50:16 AM CDT

    FOX lawyers are looking at this Talkback right now...

    by leafar the lost

    ...and they are taking down the names of anyone who has admitted to downloading a pirated copy of "Wolverine: Origins". They will use their computer scientists to find out your real names and addresses. Then, they will raid your dwellings, arrest you, throw your asses in jail, and seize your computers. They will start with Roger Friedman, and then they will work their way down to the Pirate Talkbackers.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:54:32 AM CDT

    I do enjoy the site actually.

    by sal_bando

    Warts and all. I think that downloading a movie that's not even outta film lab whatever is kinda stupid, go see it onscreen where it's meant to be seen. It's not like you won't have your chance-after it is done in the theatres you have cable, dvd, etc. It's an odd thing. Watching Hulu.com on here is okay, but the screen is little and it's not like your tv. Harold has kinda given up the pirate-site on-set spy shit, hasn't been doing that for years now. So I'm thinking he just moved on.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:57:21 AM CDT

    and hitfix is shit

    by cool_britannia79

    they've got a story about 3 new transformers revealed, i looked at the pics, there is 1 revealed. not 3. fucking amateurs.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:57:54 AM CDT

    Good luck with that scare tatic Lefar

    by stalkeye

    ..ppl including the Tbers are not impressed.Oh, if anything, everyone should sue Fox for putting out shit like the Fantastic Four. Refunds FTMFW!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:01:22 AM CDT

    Moriarity, explain this please.

    by bobwinters5

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPIRITED AWAY.

    [10:52] -Moriarty- BUT I AM WITHIN FIVE MINUTES!!

    [10:52] -Moriarty- IT WILL BE MINE!!

    [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- You have cable?
    [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- You lucky man.

    [10:52] -MCVamp- 25 hours good god.

    [10:52] -BladeRunnerUnit- moriarty, why would you do such a thing?

    [10:52] -Moriarty- This is the longest any film has ever taken.

    [10:52] -DirtyRatBastard- Spirited Away?

    [10:53] -Neth- Moriarty - don't sweat it. It's taken Coolashop.com 2 weeks to deliver my DVD.

    [10:53] -MCVamp- fastest DL ever for me was Jay and Silent Bob in 2 hours. I was amazed

    [10:53] -BladeRunnerUnit- moriarty, have you not already got the skill to see the quality of a disney movie by the poster alone?

    [10:53] -Moriarty- Because I am sick and fucking tired of waiting for Disney to stop boning American Miyazaki fans.

    [10:53] -Moriarty- I can't wait.


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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:03:47 AM CDT

    Also, this link

    by bobwinters5

    http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=15427



    So, you had something you shouldn't have had that you wanted the internet to see? Fire yourself.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:09:47 AM CDT

    As for Hitfix

    by sal_bando

    It's just kinda 'meh'. It's there. It has a few TB's. The news etc is homogenized and not terribly unique from anything else in the field you can see online. Drew's blog is okay reading though if you're into that sorta thing.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:12:48 AM CDT

    I'm going to Hitfix.com better then AICN

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 10:14:26 AM CDT

    So what have we learned today, class?

    by kai_mah'gra

    ......that, (by AICN Logic powered by AICNlogicspeak 2000tm) when something is taken from its owner without permission, and somehow made available for public consumption ( through the internet, let's say), then that's stealing; and anyone that takes advantage of said stolen object by obtaining it from the unpoliced, unregulated, unlegislated internets, and then goes ahead and talks about, should be fired and thrown in jail. Forget the person who stole,....I'm sorry....I mean; "obtained" it in the first place or let it be so "obtained". If, on the other hand, something get's taken from its owner without permission, (like jewelry from you house for instance), BUT, is not made available to the public per se or directly, and is rather shown to a select individual who then gives his glowing, "unbiased" opinion of it to the public, then that is NOT stealing, and NOT a crime. Forget the fact that by most semantic and logical standards that the original item was actually,.....um.....er......you know,......stolen.
    This recap brought to you by the makers of AICNlogicspeak 2000(tm), powered by the new and improved HypocrisyBS Hybrid(tm) engine and the makers of world-famous 'Chocolate-pussy' Shillmaster 3000(tm) reviews.
    Hypocrisy. Mmmmmm........tastes as good as 'chocolate covered pussy' (as seen on poster of some-movie reviewed by AICN.....logicspeak).

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:14:42 AM CDT

    SPAM! FLAME! Seriously, this is insane. Who fucking cares?

    by dr sauch

    It's just another shitty movie. They make em all the time. Yes, Fox is run by stuffy douchebags, yes, they are as opposite to the fanbase they serve as a corporation can be. A bunch of fatties on the internet will not change that. How about you all just shut the fuck up and don't see it?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:15:31 AM CDT

    BobWinters5

    by em_tee_em

    Drew did address the Spirited Away thing in his post of Apr 4th, 2009
    02:41:28 AM entitled CCon.All Drew has really done ih the talback is say that they need to treat Freidman the same as they did Memflix, etc. Now Harry is the one being a total douchebag by saying that it's okay for him to do something, but not okay for you to do that same thing. Which at the end of the day is what he is saying no matter what kind of weaksauce spin he tries to place on it. I was SHOWN a movie whereas the people in question here have WATCHED a movie and thus it is different.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:23:27 AM CDT

    Ah yes the infamous Klones hotel room thing.

    by sal_bando

    And can you imagine if Harold HAD gotten in trouble for seeing that--the movie w/ the sand line and the worst line readings this side of the Duck and Cover propaganda film in the fifties? EEESH.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:30:21 AM CDT

    WEAKEST talkback EVER!!!!

    by tbdeinc

    This just amazes me... No-one here actually reads the posts they are responding to... NOT ONE PERSON!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:32:05 AM CDT

    Oh, c'mon, let's be honest here.

    by digitalcos

    You guys trying to take the moral high ground on this is laughable at best.You've built your reputations on pushing the limits of this exact behavior as far as you can without legal consequences. Then when someone else crosses that line your first reaction is to start the finger pointing.Let's face it, you're the guys who are driving around with your blood alcohol level just .00000000000001 below the legal limit because you know you can get away with it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:33:13 AM CDT

    FIRE HIS ASS, FOX!

    by d.vader

    Do what's right.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:33:23 AM CDT

    i didnt download wolverine

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    i just watched it on a certain movie bootlegging site thats kinda like youtube. i wount give out the name though in "fear" of Moriarty screaming at me to be banned. ive been banned to many times already. everytime i question harry its a instant ban. its very annoying. VIVA LA MEMFLIX

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:35:00 AM CDT

    BobWinters5 LOL mor will just come back

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    with some kind of douchebag repsonse and disguise it as fact.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:38:40 AM CDT

    If they can track down TBers for

    by buffywrestling

    illegal downloading, why couldn't they track down that horse fucker Equines in Vern's old TB?

    Cause seriously, horse fucking is way scarier than Wolverine: Origins.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:40:00 AM CDT

    Fuck you moriarty and harold.

    by reaganjn

    You wouldnt give two flying fucks if this was a Warner film. Its only a big deal because its FOX. I just love how moriarty is soo worked up over this now. A little defensive i might say. Your both a couple a hypocritical cock suckers.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:40:55 AM CDT

    This is all just another example of Harry's hypocrisy....

    by angry mike

    Sorry, but anyone, including Drew, defending Harry's early review of AOTC is either extremely misguided or just not being honest. Saying either that Harry didn't steal the print, or it wasn't an illegal screening is just BS.

    I don't want to attack you Drew, but you should have just stayed out of this one. Defending Harry on this one is making you lose a lot of credit. When this situation is long gone, maybe you will get a different perspective.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:42:29 AM CDT

    And if Harry "bootleg" AOTC screening wasn't illegal....

    by angry mike

    then why wasn't it done at lucasfilm? Why a Hotel room? You gonna tell me this wasn't shady?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:47:24 AM CDT

    Well, it's not going away

    by eonz_higlo

    might as well just apologize. You lost. sorry.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:47:57 AM CDT

    OK, some questions

    by raptorjesus

    For TheRealMoriarty. Longtime reader, firsttime talkbacker. I have always enjoyed your reviews, and for that I thank you. But I have to say, I don't understand the stance of this site. Many man people download, which is a fact. It is also questionable as to just how unethical or damaging doing so is to the artists. I also wonder just how illegal it is if you watch it on a streaming site, i.e. not downloading as such, and certainly not sharing or making available. Instead, this should be a great opportunity, like taking test screenings to the next level, to hear peoples opinions and actually work to please people, instead of sue sue sue. As for Fox having double standards? I don't know the whole story with Memflix, but I know Fox does this kind of crap. Hence...AICN or Memflix should have fought harder for Memflix. Maybe at the least when someone does have action taken against them, they can cite this as an example of Fox being selective.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:48:54 AM CDT

    The truth about harry. Hurry before removed.

    by reaganjn

    Harry does not want you to read. Copy the link quick before it is removed and i am banned. Look out fot the space between the 2 and 4 at the end.

    http://efilmcritic.com/feature.php?feature=72 4

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:49:04 AM CDT

    Your STILL talking about WOLVERINE?????

    by awkwardavenue

    Ugh. Get past it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:50:24 AM CDT

    even for the internet

    by smackfu

    this thread is a pretty epic one-up pissing contest. The smallest people in the world, fighting it out to be the winner, who will win? Oh damn, I just inadvertently joined it. I'm better ten jooo000000!!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:54:00 AM CDT

    A better stance

    by lex romero

    would have been accept that the AotC screening was just as "wrong" but that the site has grown up/matured and so can't condone that kind of activity anymore. But to try and defend it as not hypocricy is a big mistake.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:00:52 AM CDT

    WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER DOWNLOADS LIKE MONSTER VS ALIENS AND HA

    by awkwardavenue

    What about thoughs. There is a million movies online right now. Out now or not out now. Whats the big deal over this

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:01:15 AM CDT

    Don't be cruel

    by destroyer

    No one should lose their job for watching a stupid movie. I'm shocked to hear this site calling for blood, isn't it enough that bad word of mouth on this site and sites like it can get projects shelved? Now you need to cost someone there job? Power trip much?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:01:58 AM CDT

    Roger Friedman is a hack

    by ddman26

    And that's saying something considering he works for Fox News.

    And I'm looking forward to Wolverine. And I even liked X3 much better Spider-Man 3

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:05:58 AM CDT

    reaganjim-that's a dead 404 link

    by sal_bando

    sorry pallie. What's it about?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:06:03 AM CDT

    I've been reading this site since a week after it launched....

    by stink_miser

    ....and this is the straw that broke the camel's back. Between Mori leaving and Harry largely ignoring the site unless he's using it as his own poorly-written, drunk-at-2am personal blog, AICN has withered away into a seemingly studio-funded shadow of it's former self, and this staggeringly hypocritical WOLVERINE debacle is proof of that.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:08:22 AM CDT

    This is a TalkBack for the Ages!

    by doctorwho?

    I love the site too, like the other guy said..."warts and all".
    I'm always amazed at how many spiteful, petulant little douchebags have such hatred for Harry and Mori. Is it personal?
    Damn, if I hated someone that much I would never visit their site.
    Anyway, an actual substantive topic here with great posts by Gotik and others which have me considering points I hadn't previously.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:09:54 AM CDT

    I think Beaks needs some time off. A little R&R might not hurt.

    by mrinsidious

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:11:26 AM CDT

    TELL YOUR FRIENDS: BOYCOTT WOLVERINE!!

    by balzacs_ballsac

    Seriously, Harold and McWeeny are now like corporate Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum terminators infiltrating the geek homebases. It's obvious FOX gives these two Faustian shills their marching orders. So let's all show FOX what we think of their tactic of hiring turncoat, sell-out, would-be "Geekherders," to TRY to keep us all in check. There's only one way make this b.s. backfire on them. TELL ALL YOUR MATES: BOYCOTT WOLVERINE! We geeks are this movie's core audience. We have the power here to hurt their bottomline. FREE ROGER FRIEDMAN!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:11:45 AM CDT

    WHOA harry is getting ripped on that site

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    god damn!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:13:25 AM CDT

    oh THAT one-

    by sal_bando

    I've read that before. Hilarious! outdated, somewhat-but they score some pretty telling points. I see what ya meant there ReaganJim.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:13:27 AM CDT

    Harry re: journalistic integrity

    by necgray

    I love the site and I back you, buddy, but if you want to make claims to journalistic integrity, you seriously need to start proofreading your articles and reviews and whatnot. I'm not talking about stuff like the Marley and Me post where you obviously were writing stream of consciousness. That's fine. But some of your reviews and news posts read awkward because despite a claim to journalism you don't write like a journalist. Again, not trying to rag on you or be a dick. I like both you and the site. I'd just appreciate it (and I'm probably not alone) if you would proof your posts or get a 3rd party to proof them.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:27 AM CDT

    Sal_Bando, REMOVE THE SPACE BETWEEN FEATURE AND . AS WELL

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:20:03 AM CDT

    Moriarty...

    by jacklucas

    Jesus fucking christ, man. Seriously? After chatting with you numerous times in the AICN chat back in the day and always regarding your peices here on this site as some of the best stuff posted, I would never think that you would feel the need to sink to the level these kids. Calling people "little girls" and telling them to work double shifts to afford Film Threat blowjobs from hamburger stand workers? Come on, man. Really? Glance over at your DVD collection, at your wife and child, and just chuckle at these assholes. For fuck's sake, man. If you didn't do anything wrong, then why so defensive?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:22:41 AM CDT

    Eonz_Higlo

    by cranga

    The very reason you can't "reach out and touch" a copy of Wolverine on your computer is why copyright is an INTANGIBLE right.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:28:13 AM CDT

    Jacklucas, that is the question.

    by catlettuce4

    "If you didn't do anything wrong, then why so defensive?"

    because maybe phoning up a guy at home and unleashing a torrent of abuse isn't something a mature person with nothing to hide does?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:28:51 AM CDT

    Yup

    by eonz_higlo

    I'm not arguing that point. I know it's an intangible right. I was trying to point out the fact that because my copy was intangible, I was completely in the right to have seen it. Much like harry did with his AOTC "screening"

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:29:30 AM CDT

    Jesus Mori and Harry are scum bags

    by kief_ledger

    It keeps getting worse and worse with these two. The main reason to stay on this site anymore is to see how they're going to top themselves next in the hypocrisy arena

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:33:03 AM CDT

    Can...open..worms - all over the floor

    by brody77

    Honestly, anyone else think this Wolverine leak - deliberate by Fox or otherwise - has just opened a clusterfuck can of worms?
    We have everyone fighting with each other in TB, Moriarty laying the Smackdown, people demanding other people get fired...all over a shitty workprint of Wolverine 4.

    That's pretty lame. There's better shit to worry about.

    That's not to say Wolverine's prosepects aren't looking good

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:33:13 AM CDT

    WHY WAS MY POST REMOVED?

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:37:58 AM CDT

    Eonz_Higlo

    by cranga

    But you're not completely right to have seen it. It's an illegal, unauthorised copy. That's copyright infringement, and it's illegal. Now, Fox aren't gonna go after every individual who downloaded and wacthed it, but that doesn't mean each one of our actions (mine included) any less illegal. As for Harry, as far as I can tell from the facts, Harry broke no laws when he watched AOTC. The problem comes with the double standard of him being able to post a review of an early unfinished version of a film, whilst not accepting reviews from people having seen Wolverine.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:38:53 AM CDT

    Fuck it, this has depressed me...

    by jacklucas

    I'm off to watch some MonsterVision with Joe Bob Briggs.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:39:18 AM CDT

    I Ask you...which is the worse crime?

    by conspiracy

    A film company knowingly making a bad product (lets be honest..they know before production if it will be quality or not)...hyping it as good , marketing it as good, paying off the critics to tell you it is good (don't say that doesn't happen) giving you a 30 second taste of all the best scenes so you will take your family, spend $100 bucks...and when it SUCKS laugh in your face when you ask for a refund. Or, someone leaking an unfinished copy of the movie so that people are aware exactly where this film is headed and can therefore make up their minds whether or not they want to pay their hard earned money to see it or not?Neither is right, neither is particularly just...but I'd rather have journalists who did their job...warned people about issues well ahead of time and in a way so they can decide for themselves the correct course of action, instead of protecting those that would seek to rip you off. This is why I think we should pay for seeing a movie AFTER we view it...just like a restaurant. It is the only way to ensure everyone stays honest, and makes the best product possible.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:42:08 AM CDT

    AICN = Hypertensive Histrionics for the MPAA

    by raystevensonwarzone

    Beaks said "Friedman must be fired immediately for downloading and reviewing stolen material." In addition to passing judgment on films, he also passes judgment on whether people should keep their jobs.

    Its amazing how offended, how shocked you all are that people would want to watch a movie early, and that this act has some incredible moral weight or importance. ITS A FUCKING MOVIE, ITS NOT A BIG DEAL. You just need to cool off and stop acting like you work for the MPAA, because that is exactly what you sound like. Its like being harangued by a particularly religious friend for looking at a nudey magazine or drinking. Give it a rest guys, are you a bunch of old ladies or something?

    By the way, Wolverine was a shitbomb, except for the helicopter fight.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:42:09 AM CDT

    smackfu, IT’S NO CONTEST, MCWEENY IS GODS MISTAKE….

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    He’s so easy to bait because he’s spent his entire life on defense because his parents gave him a faggoty name that ensured that he was a punching bag in school. He also knows that if it wasn’t for AICN no woman would ever want to marry him just like Knowles. Why would any self respecting female want this pasty white pansy for a husband when they would have a better time being gang raped by circus clowns! He’s also insufferably pretentious and has a deep seated hatred for Kevin Smith because as McFaggot was blowing C-Listers at Dave’s Laser Disc, Smith was making Clerks and has spent the last 15 years working as a Writer, Director, Actor etc… obtaining 8 features to his credit and building a worldwide fanbase. Meanwhile, McWee, who’s the same age as Smith, has spent the same time becoming one of the most hated hypocrites on the internet and has nothing to show for his douchosity apart from a mail order whore and two kids who aren’t even his.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:43:50 AM CDT

    Oh..and if you folks are DL'ing this stuff..

    by conspiracy

    Be smart...anonymous proxy, shields up, Script off...and if the fuckers ping you..trace them back and nuke um from orbit.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:44:12 AM CDT

    I'm not reading all of this crap.

    by catvutt

    I just hope it's safe to assume somebody mentioned Friedman should really be fired just for apparently enjoying this piece of shit.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:45:14 AM CDT

    Harry and FBI

    by enderandrew

    First off, Harry is a media-schill and not a journalist. Please don't pretend otherwise because no one is buying it.Secondly, it is not illegal to download a movie, though it is unethical. It is illegal to share the movie. So Friedman did not break the law, and can't be jailed for his actions. The people who posted the workprint, and everyone who shared it via BitTorrent or whatever have broken the law. Friedman only broke the law if he left the movie in a shared folder and continued to seed it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:46:13 AM CDT

    Personally, I neither like nor dislike Drew

    by smackfu

    He's pretty much just a name on a website to me. But your level of obsession with him is pretty creepy. Sounds like the guy really drives you wild, for better or for worse. I hope it works out for you.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:46:48 AM CDT

    Moriarty is making Harry look bad..........

    by lanalangsucks

    Dude let harry speak for himself !!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:49:00 AM CDT

    CreepyThinMansPreciousLittleLife..GODDAMN!!!!

    by conspiracy

    That was insane amounts of hate filled WIN. "Douchosity"...New word to add to the English language if ever I read one.Personally I don't hate Drew...and have no malice towards the guy....I even like his reviews as they at least make sense when you read them....but I salute you anyway for the best Flame I've have read in years! You are a master.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:49:05 AM CDT

    So when will Harry review the "Workprint" ?

    by lanalangsucks

    Since he does NOT work for FOX.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:49:14 AM CDT

    enderandrew

    by cossack_says_die

    Right on man.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:50:08 AM CDT

    LOL@Crankyoldman

    by indycollector

    You didn't deny it you Commie fuckhead.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:50:36 AM CDT

    Moriarty was up all night posting here.

    by lanalangsucks

    Dude , is your site that bad?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:50:37 AM CDT

    CRanga

    by eonz_higlo

    Dude, it was sarcasm. I'm not saying it was legal. I know for damn sure it wasn't. And yes, what harry did was illegal. It's called accessory. Because he didn't try to stop it, it was in fact illegal. Downloading is not illegal. Technically. when you need a computer driver, you can go to the manufactuers website and get it. Granted, I can't go to fox's website and download it, but thats not where the distinction is. Most people classify piracy as downloading. Not true. The only way people get caught, is if they do massive upload. Ask any computer nerd.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:59:39 AM CDT

    There's A Whole Planet

    by thusspakespymunk

    ... a whole planet of difference between SEEING something and TAKING something. I'm with Harry on this one. If someone VIEWS a diamond that was a stolen diamond, that is hardly the same thing as taking a diamond from someone by stealing it. Now, do I think it's poor judgment not to report being shown a stolen diamond? You bet. But that's Harry's cross to bear and I think he bears it pretty well. Would I have done the same thing? No, but I'm a freak.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:00:03 PM CDT

    Eonz_Higlo...yes good advice...

    by conspiracy

    Listen up kiddies..do not file share if you live in the USA, unless you know what you are doing. Nothing wrong with leeching from Ukrainians, Chinese or Brazilians...DO NOT upload your shit in the USA...or the partyvan will be at your door. Bro-in-Law got a cease and desist order from Paramount a few years back...stupid twit forgot to turn off fileshare in Lime...fucktard.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:02:47 PM CDT

    Downloading is not thievery

    by theplant

    To steal is to take MATERIAL things from one person and deprived them of it. As far as I know, Fox still OWNS the Wolverine movie.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:04:55 PM CDT

    Plant. Same thing happened with Elite Squad.

    by ricarleite2

    tiny little brazillian movie that won the 2008 Berlin festival. A workprint was leaked, the responsibles were actually caught, but the whole thing was out. And it had a HUGE opening, even though this was everywhere almost a month before it's original release date. And it did not hurt the box office at all, in fact it gave such a publicity, people actually thought the film was leaked on porpouse. There were some talks of the actual film having an extended ending not present in the workprint, which was not true, which only inforced the idea of a studio leak to boost publicity. Maybe Fox noticed that and said "Hmnnnn", we can use that. Only thing is, Elite Squad is a neat/ok film, while Wolverine is a shitty crap on a stick piece of garbage. This review here almost feels like a plant... Hmmnnnn

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:06:21 PM CDT

    This leak doesn't hurt the box office

    by movie_grinder

    .....and Fox knows it.


    Now that it's widespread news that the leaked version is NOT the finished product, they know that whoever downloads it either a) still will see it in the cinema or b) just wanna see it for free and wouldn't pay for it anyway.


    .....and not firing the guy is just stupid. So thanx Fox! I'm gonna go download the movie right now.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:07:02 PM CDT

    Jesus Christ

    by anything but tangerines

    HOW ABOUT NAILING WHATEVER IDIOT LEAKED THE FILE??!?!?!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:07:13 PM CDT

    Poor Gavin Hood.

    by knuckleduster

    Even if Wolverine does make money (which it probably will), Fox are unlikely to bring him back for the sequel. Actually, after this nightmare production, he'll probably never want to direct another big budget Hollywood blockbuster again. Can't blame him.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:09:01 PM CDT

    ThusSpakeSpymunk...not really...

    by conspiracy

    If you know of a stolen item...know where it is, have seen it, have touched it..and you KNOW it was stolen. YOU my friend are an accessory if you fail to turn whomever has it in. In fact...legally...if you take or view something illegal..even if you do not KNOW it is illegal, you can be charged with receiving, possessing or knowledge of illegal or stolen materials. This is the same legal loophole the Feds use to prosecute people who view, but do not possess, child porn. Just because you don't possess it, or even know it is illegal, does not protect you. The legal system makes the assumption that due to the content or context a reasonable person could assume it was illegal and therefore you are complicit. Same is true of a guy viewing a workprint of a studio film in a dingy motel room.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:10:59 PM CDT

    Diamond vs. POS

    by eonz_higlo

    Someone shows me a stolen diamond vs. a pile of shit, I'd say those were 2 very different things to be talking about stealing. Perhaps a diamond in the ruff would be.....nope. still a piece of shit. But I get what your saying. And though it is his cross to bear, by his postings and those of his staff I'd say no. They aren't bearing it well at all.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:22:20 PM CDT

    Wouldn't be hard to be better than the dark knight

    by alienindisguise

    At least Wolverine doesn't sound like he's shitting himself with every word he utters.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:24:08 PM CDT

    I'm with Conspriacy RE: creepythingguy...GODDAMN!!

    by balzacs_ballsac

    Win. (Making note to self to NEVER piss off creepythinguy) "Mail order whore" being "gang raped by circus clowns"? ::bows down and offers up sword::

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:31:00 PM CDT

    CreepyThinMansPreciousLittleLife

    by my_blue_penis

    Dude, lay of Drew, and seriously, don't drag his wife and kids into this. That's just not cool.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:31:16 PM CDT

    Uploading

    by eonz_higlo

    Uploading in the usa is fine. Its the mass uploading that gets you caught. If your entire music folder is your share folder, being shared at 300kb you have problems. But thats only with limewire and other such programs. Torrents you dont really have this problem, but if you do mass uploads on torrents, most likely your ISP will contact you about your bandwitdh and then shut you off or cut you back.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:33:32 PM CDT

    Harry is essentially the Rush Limbaugh

    by kid idioteque

    of the film industry, politics aside. Biased as all hell, not all that consistent, but entertaining as FUCK. He's not meant to be anything else. I have no problem with the site's stance on downloading the workprint, but their stance is inconsistent as far as reviewing an unfinished film. Reviewing an incomplete AOTC was apparently OK, but Wolverine? No. But I love the site, so I don't care. Harry doesn't owe anybody anything and those arguing that he took money and/or trips either now or back in the 90s... so what? Isn't that his prerogative? I come here for fun, not because I expect Gospel. I miss Mori, though, and Hitfix's layout is terrible. If someone has a link that's just ALL Mori's stuff and nothing else, I would appreciate it. Because I can't find anything on that site when I want to.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:35:02 PM CDT

    even FOX doesn't like FOX NEWS

    by guerillakarma

    WE'LL DO IT LIVE FUCK IT! FUCKING THING SUCKS!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:40:59 PM CDT

    McWeeny

    by shellfishh

    McWeeny (God, what a horrid name) is the two faced cunt that waded into a fairly civil Watchmen conversation and started hurling more of the same childish insults.
    So fuck him, fuck his site.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:41:08 PM CDT

    KreepySinMan--dang sir.

    by sal_bando

    You reallllllllly have the Hate on for Drew don't ya? Not that it's anything we should care about here-did make for some interesting reading, at least.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:41:51 PM CDT

    Wait? A guy dressed like a clown? But...omg a guy dressed like a

    by burgerking

    MY MIND HURTS!!!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:42:03 PM CDT

    IT'S IRONIC, HARRY WANTED ME TO WRITE FOR AICN ONCE

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    Back in 2003, Harry was looking for new writers and asked for people to post their top five favorite films of the year or some such shit. I wrote a long ass post and apparently he liked the cut of my jib but I got into some massive flamewars with a few asswipes and so the ginger fatshitfuck banned me. It was at this time that I also read the FilmThreat article about what loathsome, hypocritical scumbags Knowles and McWeeny were so it worked out for the best. Since then I post from time to time, spewing hatred at them because I enjoy it and they deserve it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:42:36 PM CDT

    As far as I know,

    by themarinebiologist

    Rush Limbaugh is consistent in his conservative blathering. So, in a way, Rush is better than Harry.

    Buuuuuuurn.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:45:51 PM CDT

    Indy IV....

    by amazing maurice

    .... is a fucking masterpiece compared to this unholy pile of shit.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:49:15 PM CDT

    Sal Bando

    by shellfishh

    Didn't you get your legs amputated? No, wait that was Ron Santo. My mistake.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:49:25 PM CDT

    Fox = Fix Deadpool

    by viranth

    Go to wiki, read what the character is like. Copy & paste that into the movie.

    Do the same for every other character as well, I promise you, it will be the best comic book movie EVER.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:51:08 PM CDT

    OMG THAT GUYS NAME IS TWO FACE

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    and he has like two faces?! but humans are only supposed to have 1 singular face!!?!! this is so confusing!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:54:14 PM CDT

    AICN is officially over

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

    and you have FOX to thank for it..it took a bunch of douchebags at Fox to expose who the fuck Harry Knowles and Moriarty and AICN really are...You build your reps on "spy reports" and leaked information (still licking your wounds from those joker fakes i take it)and leaked films..and then you come out and go "oh no..no reviews."....Wolverine is Foxes property to do WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH...you still dont fucking get that. I'd rather stand with the talkbackers which Moriarty (sorry, your site is hard to even look at) insults and Harry ignores than anyone fucking hypocrite that works for AICN...If fox called you tomorrow asking to put a banner ad on this site you' do it..Fucking site filled with ads for movies and studios and linking to Amazon...You've serisouly become a punchline over this and what's funny is it took Newscorp. to expose you.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 12:58:49 PM CDT

    Hey This Message is For Harry and McWeeny...

    by thereal_jasonnicholl

    For years, like so many, I was a frequent visitor to your website. But then something started happening along the way. Your hypocricy, childishness, and unprofessionalism began to shine through.

    You can say all day long that you did not break any laws in your AOTC review, and technically you probably didn't. But your original comments on how you came to watch the screening certainly gave the impression that it came by illegal way, or at the very least unethical. Now you finally come clean, and for some employee to steal (sorry borrow) the print out of the Lucas vault, invite you to a hotel room to watch it, and then return it to the vault before anyone notices it was gone, is coming to see it through unethical ways. Just because you didn't do anything wrong yourself doesn't mean you weren't an accomplice. If the getaway driver is guilty, than so are you my friend, so are you.

    You going on a rant calling for Roger Friedman to be fired is the definition of hypocricy and one of the reasons why you have lost a lot of respect among the internet crowd. What you have done in your past is really no different. Whatever Fox does to Friedman or doesn't do is none of your business. But if you are going to call him out for doing something wrong, then you better as hell be standing on higher ground yourself, which you aren't.

    Combine this with all of your unprofessional comments like your review of "Journey to the Center of the Earth" a "steaming pile of dick," or allowing Moriarty to publicly slander Roger Wells shows that you really have no standards to stand behind.

    Yes Moriarty, suggesting that if someone has a quarter they can purchase a blow job from Roger Wells is essentially calling the man a street prostitute. And unless that happens to actually be true and you have proof of it, is slander. Also, just because you can sign a fake name to a non-disclosure agreement at a test screening technically gets you off the legal hook, it does not make it ethically right. The studios have every intention of keeping the details secret, and you know this going in. How you decide to proceed demonstrates what kind of morals and ethics one has. For me, If I go to a test screening that asks me to sign a non-disclosure agreement, I don't review it. For example, I have not reviewed "Jennifer's Body" because they asked that I not. But I did review "Step Brothers" early because when I went to that screening they did ask me to sign anything at all. Its called professional ethics. I urge you to find some.

    Yes Harry, you are the 300 lb gorilla of internet movie sites, and the studios kiss your ass and give you tons of freebies to gain your public approval. But have you earned their respect?

    But truth be told I thank the both of you from the bottom of my heart. If it had not been for your deplorable actions I would never have had the desire to start my own website...one that is free of this type of behavior. A place where you can read an honest review, and if you disagree you are more than welcome to post your responses free of having me or one of the other staff members publicly berate you and make slanderous remarks about you.

    If anyone is interested, you can find my website here: http://tinyurl.com/cpb87z

    And finally to Moriarty...you say you don't delete posts. Will you have the balls then to leave mine up and even to address it? Or will the post be removed?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:00:11 PM CDT

    Sal_Bando's legs are fine as far's I know.

    by sal_bando

    Santo is the guy w/ the seriously bad diabetes. Played w/ it and thrived despite all. However, you CAN google Bando and find some interesting Bill North anecdotes if you look hard enough.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:03:14 PM CDT

    Trust me Jason--say the magic word UNCAPIE-

    by sal_bando

    --and they delight in deleting. A sad day I know.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:05:07 PM CDT

    @Shellfishh RE: Watchmen TB

    by balzacs_ballsac

    You are spot on, sir. Kudos.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:08:58 PM CDT

    WOW!! "TheReal_JasonNicholl" Nuke The Fridge ?

    by lanalangsucks

    Finally something good on this website!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:10:14 PM CDT

    Said it before-

    by sal_bando

    --and I'll say it again: Journey to the Center of the Earth: 100M. Hellboy Too--75M. in best Buscemi voice--make ya feel GOOD, doesn't it?!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:12:37 PM CDT

    @Sal_Brando

    by thereal_jasonnicholl

    Not only does former AICN writer Uncapie write for me now, so does RobP. Any other AICN writers want to join up...you know where to find me.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:12:50 PM CDT

    Hey Nerds

    by santiagoanddunbar

    If you don't like the site, then don't read (or post on) the site. What's the issue?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:14:37 PM CDT

    THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS MADE 30 MIL ON FRIDAY

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    THE WORLD HAS GONE MAD

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:15:43 PM CDT

    THIS HAS BEEN AN AWESOME TALKBACK!!!FACT!!!

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:16:57 PM CDT

    Yes I know Jake.

    by sal_bando

    I'm over there as TomBodet. Sad I know. As Uncapie the Unstoppable. He knows my sad tale.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:17:32 PM CDT

    ASK not as. Good lord.

    by sal_bando

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:17:36 PM CDT

    Harry, you're a hypocrite

    by mattmanreturns

    Stop justifying that Episode II nonsense. You broke the law, AICN has no right to act high and mighty about this Wolverine fiasco. Just because you had a source who was never disclosed doesn't mean you didn't do anything wrong. You could have said, "No, I'm not going to watch that." Or at least not reported on it. But you didn't.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:21:17 PM CDT

    This is the best talkback ever.

    by vesuvio

    that eCritic article just made my day. As we say here in Brazil.. "A alegria do palhaço é ver o circo pegar fogo".. ("the clown's joy is to watch the circus burning down") :D :D :D

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:22:18 PM CDT

    Did Harry really have a Superman in a wheelchair cartoon?

    by lanalangsucks

    I think I saw that here.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:24:23 PM CDT

    Worst then an AOTC bootleg REVIEW is saying it was good!

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:24:58 PM CDT

    30 FUCKIN MILLION?

    by biffs_pleasure_paradise

    Here comes WAY MORE FA5T AND FURIOU5.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:28:39 PM CDT

    Harry, you are not a "journalist"

    by kirbymanly

    Yes, "news" is at the end of the site's name but this does not mean that the staff who write for this site, including yourself, are "journalists". Your point about the AOTC hotel room trip is proof that you may not even know the meaning of the job. A REAL journalist does research. Ask yourself this: would a real journalist post a fake Oscar winners list? Would a real journalist accept gifts from the creators of the beat that he covers? You had an ethical choice when it came to watching the obviously stolen copy of AOTC. There is no difference between a stolen video tape and a downloaded film. No one dragged you there. You watched it by choice because it was available, as did Friedman. You are one in the same.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:35:03 PM CDT

    Kirby is right.

    by sal_bando

    pretty much. I remember that whole Klones episode, happened same year as the infamous JJ Abrams Supes script fiasco. Good lord.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:36:07 PM CDT

    This Movie will make a crap load of money....

    by beek

    .....no matter what anyone says on this site and attacking people behind a keyboard is a cowardly and pathetic act. Watch this and listen to Kevin Smith really making some sense here

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:36:25 PM CDT

    THE FA$T & THE CHA-CHING!!!!!!

    by chaimbensexyback

    Good!!! Better that Vin Diesel makes the money$$$ than Tom Rothman!!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:38:27 PM CDT

    Beek

    by beek

    Damn no link. Look for the Kevin Smith on CHUD. Good stuff and relax. Good talk back though, sad and good.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:42:50 PM CDT

    THIS IS NOT THE BEST TALKBACK EVER

    by kief_ledger

    It isn't even close. The Baleback is far and away the greatest talkback that ever (and will ever) exist. Fucking recognize.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:42:55 PM CDT

    Yes lanalangsucks..Harry did

    by thereal_jasonnicholl

    mock Chris Reeve in a wheel chair. Ever the bleeding heart liberal he claims to be.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:43:46 PM CDT

    This is the 2003 Drew/Hulk thing all over again.

    by sal_bando

    And it spawned the same kinda backlash in the festering, teeming masses of the Prolatariot here. Just--don't DO this sorta thing Harold. The finger-wagging routine usually blows up in yer faces here. It's just too easy to come right back w/ the AICN HYPOCRITES shit, ya know? Don't need that. Go review Giant Robots instead.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:47:19 PM CDT

    yea the bale talkback owned and

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    the reactions on the sopranos finale talkback were classic too.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:49:09 PM CDT

    WANT TO SEE FAST AND FURIOUS FOR FREE? HERE’S HOW…

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    You sit in a chair, I swallow a hand full of Hot Wheels toy cars, I lower my pants and fire them out of my asshole into your face and VOILA, you've just seen something better then this fucking movie, saved the fortune it would cost to see it at a theatre and still have enough brain cells to operate a spoon!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:49:21 PM CDT

    cigarette burns...

    by lobot

    ruled. My favorite episode of masters of horror (second being pelts). I haven't read the novel it's accused of ripping off, so i can't comment on that. I am a bit suprised some of these trolls haven't been banned, and that should be a testament to them not deleting posts. there does seem to be a little hipocrisy, but it's just that. a little

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:50:32 PM CDT

    CreepySinMan--you weren't the Facer were ya?

    by sal_bando

    or Georges Melieres or the George Lowe Band? Hmmmmm==

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:51:31 PM CDT

    YES, THE BALEBACK IS THE GOD OF TALKBACKS

    by chaimbensexyback

    Good call, Kief Baledewan.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:51:39 PM CDT

    MORIARTY AND THE HULK DOWNLOAD ISSUE

    by cedar_room

    I have no axe to grind with the guy, but reading the article that someone linked to waaaay up there where he apologises to the AICN readers for calling them fucks for downloading the Hulk workprint:

    "it's a personal choice. I have no business telling anyone what decision to make regarding the trafficking of stolen materials. And I wouldn't even if my hands were squeaky clean. Which they aren't.

    At this moment, with me dealing with the people I deal with all day long and all week long, and with my career developing the way it is, I have a particular perspective on the issue of the duplication and distribution of copywritten material. It's my personal perspective. It's not more right than someone else's. It's not more ethical. It's not more moral. It's simply mine

    "When I wrote what I wrote, I spoke down to my readership. And that's absolutely a mistake. The minute you condescend to the person reading your work... whoever they are... you risk alienating them"

    you remember writing that Drew? Coz if you're wondering why people are now calling you a hypocrite theres the proof. Like I said, I've no axe to grind, I wish him all the best on whatever site he chooses to write on - but its certainly clear that opnions and perspectives have changed over time.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:52:27 PM CDT

    BUT DOES YOUR ASS SHOOT OUT JORDANA BREWSTER?!?!?!

    by chaimbensexyback

    Now THAT I wanna see!!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:52:48 PM CDT

    Christ guys

    by em_tee_em

    We all agree that the editor's here have no clothes with regards to the opinions stated, but slander? Really?Drew said something mean about Roger and now there is a boo-boo on his heart.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:52:53 PM CDT

    Wait, so if Fox 411 is NOT owned by 20th Century Fox...

    by organs

    ...then who DOES own it? If this is true, then I suppose Fox wouldn't be in the position to fire Friedman, but it doesn't make sense to me.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:52:54 PM CDT

    also, i going to gets tom rothmans daughter pregnant

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

  • Apr 04, 2009 1:53:43 PM CDT

    i *am* going to get tom rothmans daughter pregnant

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    WHERE IS THE EDIT BUTTON HARRY YOU FUCK FACE

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:54:50 PM CDT

    No, Harry did *NOT* mock Reeves in a wheelchair

    by the bicycle sharer

    Fucking idiots. Seriously fucking retarded idiots. HERCULES (notice the difference in spelling there from HARRY) (whose icon is a green amputee in a wheelchair with oxygen, etc.) was drawn with a Superman costume on about the time of the release of Superman Returns - sending the PC Nazis into paroxysms. The drawing was meant to convey Herc's thrill at the new Supes flick, but was instead twisted into a slam at Chris Reeves by morons with too much time on their hands and serious needs for lobotomies.Oh, and fuck Chris Reeves. Loved the guy until those tools twisted that cartoon into an excuse to slam Herc and claim some PC offense. Fuck Chris Reeves up his moldering ass!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:54:53 PM CDT

    Tim Rothman=Bill Orally.

    by sal_bando

    You know it's true.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:56:14 PM CDT

    Sal_Bando, NO BUT I KNEW THE FACER.....

    by creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    We had limited contact just before I ended up at The Scorched-Planet.

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  • what's next? Anti-red head monologues? btw i download material similar to what dailysportspage mentioned. the movie business has lost none of my money. the music biz on the other hand.....

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:57:35 PM CDT

    No, fuck Bikey Sharer up the ass.

    by sal_bando

    For defending a dumbfuck HarryToon which even Bikey's retarded dalmation could have figgered out was a product of piss poor timing and likely to make everyone(including your dalmation) think of one thing and one thing only-it's insulting Chris Reeves. DUH. Fucking DUH.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:57:40 PM CDT

    EVERYBODY DOWNLOADS AT SOME POINT IN THEIR LIVES

    by chaimbensexyback

    We're only human. Doesn't make one worse than another.

    Shooting 12 people in an immigration center? Now that's a crime.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:57:47 PM CDT

    fucking asshole rothman i hate you

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    you ruined fantastic 4. and kingdom of heaven. and alien vs predator. and x-men. and die hard. i hope you die a fiery painful death.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:58:38 PM CDT

    Roger Ebert cocks his eyebrow

    by scumcock

    at Harry's ethics. As an indictment, that's good enough for me.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 1:59:59 PM CDT

    Ah that's cool then CreepySin-

    by sal_bando

    ---figgered you were around right about the time The Facer was doing his thing. He also had a funny Harold and Drew toon made if I remember rightly---

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:01:22 PM CDT

    oh and dragonball

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    you fucking fat douchebag bitch

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:01:36 PM CDT

    ALSO, PUNCHING A HOOKER IN THE FACE AFTER KISSING HER

    by chaimbensexyback

    That, too, is criminal.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:02:42 PM CDT

    I think my post was removed too.

    by e_nizzle

    It described that fat lying scumbag harry knowles and the unethical methods he uses to further his own interests. like giving GLOWING reviews to Godzilla, or telling everyone on this sight how AMAZING a script was that his friend wrote.

    do us all a favor, knowles, and get out of this business. youre such a fucking detriment to everyone its amazing.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:02:47 PM CDT

    I think my post was removed too.

    by e_nizzle

    It described that fat lying scumbag harry knowles and the unethical methods he uses to further his own interests. like giving GLOWING reviews to Godzilla, or telling everyone on this sight how AMAZING a script was that his friend wrote.

    do us all a favor, knowles, and get out of this business. youre such a fucking detriment to everyone its amazing.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:03:06 PM CDT

    I DON'T KNOW WHO FACER IS

    by chaimbensexyback

    You guys must be old-timers from way back.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:03:12 PM CDT

    Fuck Reeves

    by the bicycle sharer

    He *DESERVED* the wheelchair. Almost as much as Sal_Bando deserves to be anally raped by Michelle Obama. Choke on a dick and die please. How's that for "piss poor timing?"

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:03:26 PM CDT

    See?^

    by e_nizzle

    I posted twice so hopefully one wont be REMOVED by these FOX lapdogs

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:08:36 PM CDT

    Fire the dumbass

    by darthscotland

    I downloaded it becuase after AVP and X3 I will never knowingly give money to fox again, plus I have a big connection and lots of free time. Its better than X3 but thats isnt hard (I hate that peice of shit to the point of pretending it doesnt exist), its nothing close to X1 or the brilliant X2. No ammount of reshoots can bring it up to par with those. If you've got time to kill, go see it but I wouldnt recommend it. I did like the opening credits jumps through wars though, I like films that make good use of the credits, its one of the main resons I now detest seeing Spiderman films, you spend 5% of the film watching names in bold. I know I'm pure evil for downloading it but the way I see it I'm only downloading films I wouldn't pay money for anyway so whats the harm, I don't profit through selling them on. Plus I still have a giant DVD collection, so if I do download it and it turns out to be amazing, I'll buy it on DVD then, (like I did with Iron Man, I was convinced it was going to be shit) so they if the quality is good the company actually MAKES MONEY from me downloading it and then recommending it to friends.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:10:04 PM CDT

    ALSO, LOOKING AT THE LIGHTS

    by chaimbensexyback

    Not only criminal, but distracting.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:11:05 PM CDT

    See?

    by sal_bando_cock_sucko

    Sal_Bando_Love-o_Cock_Sucko! Love it, love it, love it, love it. Especially if it's a quadriplegic cock. Limp, wrinkled cock in Sal's mouth that is never gonna get hard? Ever. Well, that's just like his all-time fave. Mmmm-mmmmm. Limp quad cock.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:11:29 PM CDT

    oh yeah, the fox guy

    by darthscotland

    If I downloaded films whilst working for a film/media company though I would expect to get fired if caught doing so. The guy is a moron

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:12:05 PM CDT

    AICN won't roll over on sources, but they will on fellow journal

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Fuck that shit. Pitiful....absolutely pitiful behavior pointing the finger at Friedman and snickering for him to be fired. Reveals you guys for what you really are....disgustingly opportunistic hypocrites that don't give a fuck about anybody else but yourselves.
    I always give you guys the benefit of the doubt and figure you're doing a good thing here and you're probably all decent guys. But fuck no. Not anymore. This shit has gone too far. You're little fucking snakes in my book now.


    Growing up with those personality traits, Drew must have gotten the shit kicked out of him. And if he raises his child with the same values, he too shall get the shit kicked out of him. Nobody likes a punk motherfucker.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:14:59 PM CDT

    In the future we won't pay for anything.

    by orionsangels

    Everything will be provided for us, just like in Star Trek.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:15:22 PM CDT

    HITFIX = ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY NAZI PARTY

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Do not contribute to that corporate shit. Fuck that. Give traffic to a more deserving site that doesn't call for fellow journalists to be fucking fired to promote your own ventures. Jesus Christ what a fucking coward move.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:15:48 PM CDT

    This is very true DannyG.

    by sal_bando

    Bikey Sharer's mouth is a collective sperm-bank for the South Side. Very nice. Your sister would be proud.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:16:15 PM CDT

    Drew McWeeny = JOSEPH McCARTHY

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:17:37 PM CDT

    Hey Bicycle Sharer

    by indycollector

    It's Christopher REEVE you fuckwit.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:18:49 PM CDT

    Creepythinmanspreciouslittlelife

    by seppukudkurosawa

    So you're from Scorched Planet? The prototype 4chan site who used to send in fake reviews to AICN and who give out a dartboard with a picture of Drew McWeeny's face stapled to it to new members when they sign up?

    Curiouser and curiouser. That might explain the influx of bastardizations on regular talkbackers' usernames as well.

    You almost make me ashamed to be a Scott Pilgrim fan.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:19:00 PM CDT

    Fuck this shit. Everyone here needs to visit some real sites....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    www.aintitbalenews.com
    www.mymavra.com ....and for actual scoop please see: www.darkhorizons.com

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:19:50 PM CDT

    Sal_Bando talks about being a sperm bank

    by sal_bando_cock_sucko

    Because he's just jealous 'cause the flaccid dick he sucks can't produce. How he dreams of gargling down the pearly white globs of glistening man goo! Just like daddy used to give him.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:20:09 PM CDT

    BRUTICUS

    by jesiah

    I also kinda got that Gambit=Han Solo vibe. The way Gambit was a rogue giving the hero a ride kinda vibe. I've only seen Taylor Kitsch in Covenant, and even though he looked the part his voice didn't sound the part in that movie. I'm glad he appeared in this movie with a different voice and a little accent, not enough to sound like it's offensive to Cajuns but enough to do the job. Can't wait for his own flick THE RAGIN' CAJUN.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:20:27 PM CDT

    its King SeePOOkoo--

    by sal_bando

    --where's yer pal-and ours--The PaZoozoo? He should be in on this. He'd love it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:21:07 PM CDT

    THE INTERNET IS ONE BIG COCK

    by chaimbensexyback

    and we are its whores.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:21:44 PM CDT

    Indy Collector, I added the extra "S"

    by sal_bando_cock_sucko

    To make up for the fact that the tool was in a wheelchair. Where he should have been.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:21:45 PM CDT

    Bikey_Wearer-

    by sal_bando

    -a Depends wearing tranny. One of the best.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:22:20 PM CDT

    HEY DANNY - THANKS FOR REMINDING ME

    by chaimbensexyback

    I have to e-mail you some content for aintitbalenews.com.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:22:33 PM CDT

    "criminally irresponsible"? bullshit

    by punto

    people have been downloading movies and tv shows for 10 years. it's the way of the future. I get that some people don't like that, but pretending it doesn't exist is sad, and dishonest in my opinion. It's happening, and it IS more convenient. It's not our fault that the big studios are just figuring out now how to do it, and pretending it's a new thing. "hey, look at this, you can watch this tv show on the tiny web box, isn't it the cutting edge technology??". no. just stop, it's ridiculous.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:22:35 PM CDT

    whoa, just read all the posts near the admin posts

    by darthscotland

    ...what the hell is wrong with you guys, so filled with bile, plus your arguements were flawed and unsupported for the most part. Some of moriartys responses weren't too much better though. On the topic at hand I agree, there should be no double standard and the fox guy should go.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:23:12 PM CDT

    A depends wearing tranny?

    by sal_bando_cock_sucko

    Your just 'membering yo daddy's dick again, huh? Face it - them quads is never gonna get hard for you the way yo daddy did. Just go back to the source and leave those more crips alone.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:23:35 PM CDT

    How to combat piracy:

    by sifodyasjr.

    Make great movies that demand to be seen on a big screen. Charge a reasonable price for tickets and food. Set the audio for the movies at the same level the advertisements are. Allow patrons to have the legal right to punch the moron behind them that's kicking the seat/talking/has a crying baby/crinkling the cellophane wrapper. Problem solved.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:23:53 PM CDT

    LMAO@Harry's AOTC reasoning

    by indycollector

    What a hypocrite fat fuck. Jesus.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:23:57 PM CDT

    Why is AICN out for this guys blood?

    by sloopjohnb

    First of all, Moriarty, your posts in this talkback have been brilliant/hilarious, and based on the facts, I would say firing this guy wouldn't be an inappropriate course of action. But since you don't really have much stake in this (other than sticking up the mere principal of the matter), why are you out for this guy's job? In this kind of economic climate, losing your job is volumes more disastrous. So what's the deal? Did he try making moves on your wife or what? Because this behavior seems a little extreme...

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:25:46 PM CDT

    Creepy Thin Man Owns McWeeny!

    by dancingforever

    My God man, you have arse fucked McWeeney, won the crowd over, and become an absolute legend. I'm just happy to say I was here to see it. Wow was that an ass whooping! Seeing McWeeney posting here now is like watching an old out of shape boxer in his last few fights get demolished by younger smarter competition. One can easily see McWeeney slouched somewhere in a dark room reading these comments, knowing he has lost all respect from his biggest supporters, contemplating the utter waste his life has become. The story here is not a shitty Wolverine film or downloading movies. No friends, the story here is a once respected and marginally talented man has been exposed as a hypocrite and summarily owned in this talk back. To the Creepythinman, sir you have taken down a biggie, what are your thoughts and did you see the crowd turning on McWeeney, that to me was the big shock.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:32:02 PM CDT

    ChaimBenSexyback -- Bless you brother.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:32:34 PM CDT

    ChaimBenSexyback -- BSB?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Is that you?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:33:25 PM CDT

    BUT WHAT ABOUT MERRICKS 15 YEAR OLD SON!?!?!?!?!

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    I MUST KNOW WHAT HE HAS TO SAY ON THIS DEBACLE!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:34:49 PM CDT

    Sloopjohnb -- Drew is trying to cozy up to Fox.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    He wants to ensure Fox and the rest of the studios understand he is a "Friendly." And he's trying to hype up his new site and get it linked all over the fucking place. And look at that! It worked. I saw the story and the link on countless entertainment sites. All driving traffic to his new corporate cesspool.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:35:58 PM CDT

    Merricks 15 year old son is more man than any other.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    .....fat ass man-child that writes for this site. The kid is probably an ordinary human being with actual social skills. He deserves a fucking trophy.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:37:24 PM CDT

    Wait a second...

    by santiagoanddunbar

    Your all bitching about a website that your currently on and will continue to be on for years to come . . . I dont think any of you can survive without AICN. No one gives a shit about you in the real world so you need these talkbacks to survive, so ease up a little eh.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:39:02 PM CDT

    agreed, hes trying to be a friendly

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    so he treats the talkbackers like assholes. what a cocky fuck. i wonder what merricks 15 year old son thinks about this...

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  • The guy is just doing the same stupid reporting everyone who covers the entertainment community does. Not that I condone it, but so he's an asshole. So is everyone on Fox News; does that mean we trust everything that they say ?? FUCK NO.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:40:05 PM CDT

    DANNY - YES, IT'S ME

    by chaimbensexyback

    I converted!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:40:37 PM CDT

    he has social skills!?!? but he writes for aicn!!

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    not possible! okay his indy review was right on point

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:40:51 PM CDT

    SantiagoAndDunbar

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    You're right. It is a unhealthy addictive habit to post here. We come here to shoot the shit and have fun with one another. I don't know anyone who comes here for the scoop or stories exclusively. I know they exist....but I don't think this readers TB much. My point is.....we continue to post here out of habit. But if this place crumbled and fell, I'm sure a large portion of us would run outside of our offices and cheer in the streets.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:42:07 PM CDT

    ChaimBen....did you lost your name too?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Fuck. What the fuck is going on around here? As soon as we get the better comments section up....you gotta start hanging out more. And bring friends, women, and rum.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:43:00 PM CDT

    TAIL SPIN...

    by elwood_p_dud

    Thy name is FOX. This douche bag posts a review at the behest of Fox and some of you drooling shit bags want him fired? How god damn naive are you lot? Christ, it's amazing how stupid people are.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:43:06 PM CDT

    Merrick's son is 15 and still in middle school!!!

    by indycollector

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:43:37 PM CDT

    I didn't say Merrick had social skills. I said his son did....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:43:51 PM CDT

    Moriarty in my opinion is incriminating Harry a bit...

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:45:50 PM CDT

    15 in junior high or middle school

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    ODOYLE RULES

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:47:09 PM CDT

    ATTENTION AIN'T IT COOL NEWS

    by total fucking destruction

    I think it's time. just say the word and give me the names.everyone will receive TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:48:05 PM CDT

    AKA Larry Craig's plumber.

    by bike_wearer_fists_rush

    Another one in a lonnnnnnnnng line of douchebag inbred retards who cannot stop flogging it to pictures of his sister. A sad, sad day.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:48:21 PM CDT

    20th Century Fox..

    by emeraldboy

    is owned by News Corporation which is owned by Rupert Murdoch.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:50:18 PM CDT

    -----and lives to pull the Oxcy from his nair---

    by bike_wearer_fists_rush

    _----------as Noted_Sage Chris_Reeves Said: Your Mamma.----------

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:50:30 PM CDT

    we can be polite about this

    by drturing

    no two ways about it, AICN has in the years gone by profited from ethically dodgy utilization of people sharing information in ways that are not legitimized. that's what this site is - genuine passion or no, half of the stories here are people profiting from information given to them in ways that violate filmmakers' sanctity. The JJ Abrams Superman thing is a perfect example. For better or worse that's how it is. Doesn't make Harry or Mori evil, or bad, etc. But it is ethically shaky, especially now when it's obvious that this site is considered to be something that can be played by marketers. What was the last real scoop this site had?

    And seriously NO ONE can remember when Harry claimed Natalie Portman made him a card at her slumber party when her "friend" emailed him?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:51:51 PM CDT

    AKA: the Buttplug of EnCino.

    by bike_wearer_fists_rush

    Everyone needs to drop some napaulm upon the neighbourhood one time or another

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:52:34 PM CDT

    Oh don't get me started on that JJ Abrams Superman script

    by indycollector

    And how Moriarty backtracked on his initial review now that AICN has made nice with the name. Fuck that script.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:53:03 PM CDT

    DANNY - NO,BSB IS STILL HERE

    by chaimbensexyback

    Just trying out this new name, since registration was re-opened.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:53:04 PM CDT

    This TB pretty much guaranteed I won't go to Moriarty's site

    by frodofraggins

    Not that I was planning to, but he sure comes off as really unstable.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:53:31 PM CDT

    BSB....Amen. I'll keep it quiet.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 04, 2009 2:55:09 PM CDT

    Drew represents the scum and villainy of corporate America.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Anyone who would support his site, over something independent like darkhorizons is a fucking scumbag.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:55:24 PM CDT

    Not "name." Man. Now AICN has made nice with JJ Abrams

    by indycollector

    Fuck, Fatty. Edit button!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:57:35 PM CDT

    Drew's big goal in life was not to be a writer.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    It was to be a "FAMOUS WRITER." Thats when you become a shit human being willing to trample all over anyone that gets in his path to promote your own name. Disgusting.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:58:37 PM CDT

    WHAT KIND OF BURGERS IS RON WELLS MAKING?

    by chaimbensexyback

    I'll have one, medium rare.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 2:59:56 PM CDT

    SAY NO TO EDIT BUTTONS

    by chaimbensexyback

    Proper spelling is the hallmark of a professional talkbacker. Balebackers don't need edit buttons.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:00:08 PM CDT

    as the ghost of a PROFESSIONAL myself...

    by balzacs_ballsac

    I am glad to see my fellow PROFESSIONALS here giving McDouchey his comeuppance that is so well deserved and lonnnng time in coming.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:00:37 PM CDT

    The Spirit

    by strokerx

    watched it yesterday....and i liked it ok.
    Could've been better obviously...but i def had a cheesy grin throughout and never got bored. I kinda loved some parts of it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:02:06 PM CDT

    Punisher War Zone

    by strokerx

    OK people...anyone who says Thomas Janes Punisher is better needs to get their brains checked.

    Punisher War Zone > The Punisher
    Who's with me?!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:02:09 PM CDT

    That is illegal Stroker

    by indycollector

    You are be fired and placed under arrest!! It is not available on DVD yet!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:03:03 PM CDT

    Thomas Jane's Punisher IS better

    by indycollector

    Fuck War Zone.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:03:35 PM CDT

    God bless total fucking destruction

    by kief_ledger

    his posts always get a laugh out of me. And it's good to see ban back as well

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:08:44 PM CDT

    the wolverine "fiasco" is only a fiasco because

    by bacci40

    the movie sux ass if it was brilliant, while fox would still be crying, no one would care tdk was up on the web the night it was released...didnt hurt its bo in the slightest, because people still wanted to see it in the theater as for the fox news employee...does anyone think he posted that review without clearing it through his bosses first...who must have contacted the suits at the big company? of course they did it was being used to soften the blow of the shit reviews that were all over the net then posters at imdb and other sites made a total mockery of that "review" and fox had it pulled fuck fox, rothman and murdoch

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:08:45 PM CDT

    the wolverine "fiasco" is only a fiasco because

    by bacci40

    the movie sux ass if it was brilliant, while fox would still be crying, no one would care tdk was up on the web the night it was released...didnt hurt its bo in the slightest, because people still wanted to see it in the theater as for the fox news employee...does anyone think he posted that review without clearing it through his bosses first...who must have contacted the suits at the big company? of course they did it was being used to soften the blow of the shit reviews that were all over the net then posters at imdb and other sites made a total mockery of that "review" and fox had it pulled fuck fox, rothman and murdoch

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:09:00 PM CDT

    god damn total fucking destruction

    by balzacs_ballsac

    I got my reasons. But fuck that arse.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:09:14 PM CDT

    I agree. TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION = PROFESSIONAL

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 04, 2009 3:09:27 PM CDT

    There was ZERO blood in Punisher

    by strokerx

    Buckets in Warzone....and Ray Stevenson played a better punisher....and he actually looked like him.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:14:02 PM CDT

    seriously

    by strokerx

    i'll arm wrestle anyone over this.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:15:25 PM CDT

    I thought the ending was sooo weird...

    by the dum guy

    I still don't understand how Bruce Willis could be dead the whole time and not know it...

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:18:27 PM CDT

    total fucking destruction < professional

    by balzacs_ballsac

    sorry, Danny, e-mail me for my reasons.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:18:52 PM CDT

    PLEASE. DO NOT MENTION WOLVERINE AND THE DARK KNIGHT

    by chaimbensexyback

    in the same talkback, or in the same month.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:20:17 PM CDT

    TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION PROFESSIONAL

    by chaimbensexyback

    See? Compromise.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:28:19 PM CDT

    BALZACS_BALLSAC

    by total fucking destruction

    why don't you put your reasons down for everybody to see, dink? or are you too afraid that they'll be ready by TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:30:32 PM CDT

    Rupert Murdoch's behind all of this

    by aboriginal

    If this isn't just a farted up plant to set up and generate excitement its the exec who came up with it - not the idiot messenger that delivered it or failed to deliver it properly. If you believe this dink isn't being told what to say (or that its being said for him by wanna be creative FOX execs) you're waaaaay off. FOX is the anti-Christ of the media beasts.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:31:07 PM CDT

    My Professional review will be up tomorrow on........

    by stuntcock mike

    http://www.aintitbalenews.com/

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:32:28 PM CDT

    Total Fucking Douchebag

    by balzacs_ballsac

    The people who need to know, already do. Let's just say my reasons are legitimate "dink" and I don't like you. Twat.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:32:46 PM CDT

    Shame on you AICN

    by coldnorway

    I have used this site from the time it got started, but only got around making a profile a year ago to comment on Verns funny Steven Seagal reviews.Sure I have read stuff from Harry and other contributors too over the years and have learned to "deal" with the mood and way of writing.But this appalling "I am better than you" attitude represented in this article must be the mother of all fuck ups. I have read all the comments,and I cannot do anything else but to join in on the negative feedback side towards the writers of this article. I have lost all respect for this site,and will leave this place.I hope most the old fans of this site shun you like the plague and walk out.I will get my Vern review fix elsewhere.Shame on you AICN.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:34:09 PM CDT

    DANNY- chk your e-mail

    by balzacs_ballsac

  • Apr 04, 2009 3:37:42 PM CDT

    STOP FLAME-WARRING!!

    by chaimbensexyback

    You guys are worse than an old-married couple. Geez Fucking Louise.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:38:09 PM CDT

    BALLESS_BALLSAC

    by total fucking destruction

    the people who need to know? is that some nest of losers you hang out with on the internet? how could your reasons be legitimate when you and i haven't even had afternoon tea?you read like a coward who wants to bask in the limelight of TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:52:20 PM CDT

    Oh so ChaimBensexyback is BSB

    by total_fucklng_destruction

    Good thing to. If it was an impostor I would have to a friend of mine.........a friend called TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:56:51 PM CDT

    What the fuck is going on with.....

    by travis-dane

    all those usernames? and whats up with the TFD hate and why is BSB not BSB anymore.....mommy?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:57:19 PM CDT

    Total Fucking Dickhead

    by balzacs_ballsac

    "English, motherfucker!, do you speak it?" Your posts read like a retarded kid typing with one finger while sucking his Dad's cock. There is no limelight TFD, there is only your imcomplete sentence postings. "If it was an imposter I would have to a friend of mine" HUH??

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:57:40 PM CDT

    hey guy How do we feel about Vern?

    by phategod2

    I kind of like that guy. is he still cool? or has he become a corporate tool as well?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 3:59:41 PM CDT

    THANKS FOR GETTING MY BACK TFD

    by chaimbensexyback

    You = Professional

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:01:39 PM CDT

    Eonz_Higlo

    by cranga

    I'd be interested to hear why you think that downloading a movie is not illegal. I'm sure you're aware that copyright law is concerned with sharing and copying IP. Downloading is copying. Now, the authorities are almost certainly not going to go after individuals, but the act of downloading a movie is illegal. Debates about whether it should or shouldn't be illegal are irrelevant, the act is illegal. The law is the law. You may not like it, and you may not obey it, but it is the law.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:01:52 PM CDT

    VERN WILL ALWAYS BE TEH GREATNESS

    by chaimbensexyback

    And I have temporarily converted.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:02:15 PM CDT

    FUCK!!

    by total_fucklng_destruction

    I meant to say I would have to introduce him to a friend of mine. Pretend I said that instead. Now I have to receive TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:07:27 PM CDT

    Vern is the Man!

    by travis-dane

    and if TFD destroys T_F_D, then we will have TFD!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:08:45 PM CDT

    Vern is my personal film critic

    by total_fucklng_destruction

  • Apr 04, 2009 4:10:25 PM CDT

    FUCK again!!!

    by total_fucklng_destruction

    I meant my favorite personal film critic and then I hit the enter button by accident. Okay I'm done for the day. Enough TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION has been handed out.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:10:44 PM CDT

    Buy SEAGALOGY guys....

    by travis-dane

    the best book ever written. By VERN.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:13:01 PM CDT

    BSB calling an END to a flame war?

    by xiphos_2

    That's a good one.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:14:39 PM CDT

    CreepyThinMansPreciousLittleLife

    by medicinaluser

    I have no idea how McWeeny will find a way back from the demolition job you have done on him in this t/b well deserved (calling for a man to loose his job..WTF) well hopefully the bubble has finally burst around here for fucking good.
    So where is everyone leaving to now DH/NTF or AIBN?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:20:11 PM CDT

    no subject

    by phategod2

    What if Harry Hands the site over to Vern then we can all be happy.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:22:40 PM CDT

    This site's hypocrisy is amazing

    by whitty

    Moriarty, you are one of the most obnoxious, hateful and rude people I've ever seen post something at this site--how incredibly unprofessional you are for someone who claims to be a journalist (though I've never seen any evidence that you or Harry has ever done anything to deserve that title--there's nothing journalistic about this site or either of you). And Harry, I would think your inability to write a coherent sentence or punctuate would be reason enough for you to be banned from test screenings, even if you and Drew didn't already have a track record of doing exactly the same sort of thing your ridiculous editorial and Moriarty's Unibomber-esque Talkback rants are railing against. The hypocrisy of you guys is simply unbelievable. It's no wonder you have no credibility or respect in the industry.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:27:12 PM CDT

    Vern has his own website.

    by travis-dane

    outlaw Vern.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:28:16 PM CDT

    Wow whitty that was brutal.

    by orionsangels

  • Apr 04, 2009 4:28:52 PM CDT

    A Plea for Civility

    by the reluctant austinite

    I remember a time when TalkBacks would get heated occasionally, but generally served as a living platform for passionate debate. This, however, was a brief time in AICN history before things turned nasty. The first time I ever met Harry I asked him why he thought Talkbacks were so venomous because it really bothered me. My friends and I had much heated debate about film, but it never sunk to the lows and vicious attacks I've seen here in recent days. Harry told me he didn't have time to waste reading that type of venomous stuff, and just blew it off. That made sense. But it's become so bad, I almost feel like TalkBacks need to be wiped clean and given a fresh start. Maybe we can take it back ourselves if we just show a little courtesy for each other and exercise a little restraint. You love film or you wouldn't be here; we all have that in common. If each of us makes a choice to come here and comment intelligently on the topic, even if we passionately disagree, we can change this. If just one person who has sank into negativity in TalkBacks decides to change maybe he/she will influence others. Now, this leaking of Wolverine is a terrible thing for all the people who worked on this film and those who invested in it. The only winners are those who like to watch films early for free and don't care about the consequences. I hope the finished film gets a chance to earn what it would have earned now that the "excitement" that generates the income for the first weekend is shot. I mean, "Fast and Furious" just made $30 million in one day. Do any of you think it would have earned 1/3 of that if it had been leaked online a month ago? I think not. It doesn't matter who you like, don't like or want to see "get screwed because they deserve it." It's still not fair to those who worked on the film. And Drew, you don't need to defend yourself or your career to those who attack you here. Your work and career speak for themselves.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:29:55 PM CDT

    You're a dick, Harry.

    by deafpoet

    It's one thing to weigh in with your opinion on an issue like this, no matter your take on it. It's quite another to persist with such vitriol to have some low rent internet columnist put out of work. Shouldn't you be using your dubious internet celebrity for something other than being a complete asshole?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:34:48 PM CDT

    Wolverine will do huge box office.

    by antonphd

    The geeks may not like it, but most of the rest of the movie going audience is going to see it. Look at Fast and Furious - 30 million friday - the country is ready to have some flashy fun at the movies.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:36:36 PM CDT

    I love how Drew McWeeny....

    by bobocop

    ...in many of his flames towards talkbackers references his website, Hitflix, LOL. He'll claim he said this or that, and then invite people to see for himself at Hitflix. That's pretty desperate. Crawling back to this site and flaming people to get people to visit his site. Translation:

    "Please visit my site! Toshi Mcweeny needs a new pair of shoes!" LOL...while at the same time trying to convince an angry mob of geeks to go after the job of some other corporate shill who likely has kids of his own. That's Moriarty for ya.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:38:40 PM CDT

    The Reluctant Austinite

    by bobocop

    Basically you're saying that talkbacks should be full of sycophants like yourself who hang off Harry's scrotum like ginger crabs.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:41:11 PM CDT

    What's up, talkbackers

    by bobocop

    I just registered for the first time in about a year after being banned about 5 times in a matter of days for criticizing Scriptgirl and joking about how one of her psychofans would kill her and rape her dead corpse. And how's you all been? I'm not staying, though. I'm either going to be instantly banned, or stop posting after today. Y'all should do the same. There's life after AICN.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:47:12 PM CDT

    Writing rule #3: Know Your Audience

    by gusradio

    I was just wondering if Beaks, Moriarty, and Harry are at all surprised about the overwhelmingly negative response from internet geeks to AICN jumping on a high horse concerning the illegal downloading of a workprint, that is sure to become a fanboy collectors item, much in the same vein as the Star Wars Holiday Special. If I were writing these columns, and admittedly I am not - because I have not paid my dues or tried to make any kind of name for myself in your arena, I wouldn't condemn anyone for trying to get their hands on a comicbook movie workprint, but I wouldn't encourage it either. I'd just shut my mouth and let the pieces fall where they may. Its no skin off your back, except that your readers may have seen it before you for a change. Report the story, but don't talk about banning people, and don't talk about Hollywood losing money, or the evils of piracy. You guys make fanboys jealous with your advance screenings, hanging out with directors, and free DVD’s -everyday. You deserve all those things with your free promotion work, but part of knowing your reading audience, is knowing that most of them are going to jump at the chance to see an early draft of Wolverine, and they don’t want to hear you guys drone on about the evils of piracy because they did. Is piracy OK? I’m not trying to say it is, but look around at what room your standing in. This isn’t print media, this is a website full of tech-savvy film geeks who can speak loudly from the shadows of anonymity. Part of running this circus is trying to see things from the clown’s point of view from time to time. You’ll be much more appreciated if you can empathize with your audience, instead of trying to come across so high and mighty. Despite some seriously amateurish reviews from Harry lately (Drag Me To Hell; I’d spooge all over myself if I got to hang out with Sam Raimi too, but Jesus man, your supposed to be a pro), I still consider you guys to be relatively intelligent. Intelligent enough to know that the downfall of the American film industry is not going to be fueled by piracy, least of all by a work-in-progress of a shit-bomb. (I haven’t seen the workprint, only the trailer, but I can smell the shit from there). Hollywood execs are paid far too much money in their efforts to stifle the evolution of the film medium, unbelievably bad actors are paid tremendous amounts of money to ruin movies based on name recognition, and failed directors are used time and time again even though they have nothing new to offer. The Hollywood formula is questionable at best. When Fox fails to break box office records, you can help them blame the download of this workprint if you’d like, but it might be better received by your audience if you admitted what you should know- that these films will rake in money despite how many people pirate it, if it’s really good. Also if Fox is smart, they will release the workprint of Wolverine on the special edition of the DVD. It would say to the leakers and downloader that were as cool as you, and it’s probably a very interesting inside look at the filmmaking, special effects, and editing process.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:48:12 PM CDT

    AICN alternatives

    by cranga

    Can anyone suggest good alternatives to AICN. Dark Horizons or The Onion AV Club? Any others?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:56:53 PM CDT

    joblo - latino review - Dark Horizons - Coming Soon.net

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

    ya know..pretty much every other website that AICN hotlinks from

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:58:43 PM CDT

    Man Harry...you sure fucked up this time bad...

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

    Bout fucking time people came to their shit and realized what a waste of time this site is for news. You'll always have JJ Abram's and Stallones table scraps.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:59:25 PM CDT

    Bobocop, "No, I'm not saying that."

    by the reluctant austinite

    The fact is that I've also fallen prey to negativity myself. Life is tough and sometimes what's going on in your own life follows you here. I've pissed Harry off a couple of times. Recently. I've also recognized that sometimes I'm wrong and make mistakes, and Harry and I are totally cool. He isn't perfect either. What I'm saying is that sometimes we're going to disagree and fight, but we're in this together for the long haul. It's okay not to like ScriptGirl's reports, for instanace, but to say what you just said about her is extremely inappropriate. Just be civil to each other and to those who write here.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 4:59:44 PM CDT

    Long live the creepythinman

    by optimuscrime

    He has supplanted DGDB as bar none the greatest flame warrior in history. Fear his wrath, and put Moriarty on suicide watch.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:00:03 PM CDT

    By the way...

    by bobocop

    ...I was in Blockbuster a few months back looking for a horror movie I hadn't seen before, and I came across the Masters of Horror episode directed by John Carpenter and written by Drew McWeeny (it was either Cigarette burns or the other one). So I was curious to watch a movie written by the guy banned me from AICN for joking about necrophilia.

    Well, it was awful. The tone was really flat, it was dull and dragged along, but it was also just bizarre. But then came the kicker - there's necrophilia in it! LOL. There's a scene where some dude is in a movie theater and starts making out with a dead chick. And I was like, "Thaaaat's Mcweeny" Hypocrisy is his middle name.

    But seriously, it was awful - McWeeny can take credit for putting the final nails in the coffin of John Carpenter's career.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:02:48 PM CDT

    Conflicting Deadpool Info

    by fiester

    I've heard the final character is called Deadpool but is played by Scott Adkins and not Ryan Reynolds--and that the Reynolds character may be spun off into his own film. Confusing.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:04:54 PM CDT

    Fox, Wolverine, AICN, etc.

    by the angriest planet

    My computer just freaked out and may or may not have sent an incomplete post. Since I forgot what I started with, apologies if this repeats...

    I share the other posters' bafflement with AICN's position on this issue. This site was built on inside info like this. Is it only wrong when you don't have exclusive access? This is a gray area for sure but I really have to wonder what you guys are about these days.

    As for the leak of Wolverine itself...

    If Fox was smart, they would downplay the leak, which they're sort of doing. Just tell people it'll be better when its done just like they tell people at legit previews.

    While a leak of this nature is definitely worth an internal investigation, I really wouldn't sweat it. Rob Zombie's HALLOWEEN got out early and still opened huge. And we all know about TAKEN. If WOLVERINE under performs, it will be because it is not as well liked as some other thing, just like always. Even if it is not that great, it'll still be huge world-wide. After all, FANTASTIC 4 was a hit. So anything can be.

    And Fox, if you are reading this, stop trying to turn people into the copyright police and stop calling the fucking FBI. NEVER call the FBI, they are busy with REAL crime. Besides, the real agency to call is INTERPOL since the unlawful sale of bootlegs of new movies is your true enemy, and they are overseas. And not to the tune of the numbers you guys throw out. 18 billion indeed. What is it with this business that they are swimming in ever increasing profits yet all they can do is cry about imaginary lost millions?

    We may never know how the print really got out but I'm sure some poor sap will hang for it. Which would be a mistake, fire whoever for sure but jail, no. Unless you can prove whoever was copying it and selling copies. If not, focus your energies on battening down the hatches on chain of possession with film elements so this doesn't happen again. After all, scream and cry "THEFT!!!" all you want, but it's really YOUR fault this thing got out. Own it, deal with it, and quit bitching.


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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:06:51 PM CDT

    So Harry "Headgeek" Knowles just admitted...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...to doing pretty much the same thing that this idiot did? The only difference is that Harry doesn't work for Fox, and Harry's source was some "unnamed source" who provided an illegal copy of AOTC while the other idiot's "source" was an illegal download of Wolverine. I'm disappointed, Harry, because I remember your AOTC review...and the leak of spoilers too.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:09:03 PM CDT

    gusradio

    by cranga

    Well said. One of the few intelligent, well thought out, and well written posts on this TB. Good grammar goes a long way.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:09:54 PM CDT

    Reluctant Austinite

    by bobocop

    You're Harry's friend and you have met him personally, so that is shaping your opinion. For most of those here, this is just a place to vent, talk shit, and talk about movies. Most of the people here aren't in the movie biz so they don't take this shit seriously, but get worked about because they love movies, and it's frustrating to watch that medium turn to shit. Well, I'm speaking for myself.
    As for Scriptgirl...let me put it this way. Harry is like the geek who always wanted to be cool, and part of the in-crowd. He starts a site called "aintitcool" and then the in-crowd (hollywood) and those who want to be in the incrowd (Scriptgirl) start buddying up to him just to use him. Then Harry becomes that geek who gets a swelled head and starts throwing his weight around because he thinks the cool kids are his friends and the slutty cheerleader (Scriptgirl) likes him...and eventually you just can't stand to be around that person anymore.

    My jokes about Scriptgirl were just that...jokes. I could care less about her...but she sucks, and the way that she's put on a pedestal at this site...this site sucks, too, now.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:11:18 PM CDT

    Onion AV Club sucks.

    by toilet_terror

    All they write are dumb lists of things you've already watched, read or listened to. ZZZzzz. Chud was decent for a while, but it's way too obnoxious and diluted these days. There honestly isn't a perfect movie news site on the internet that I'm aware of. Most newer sites use the crappy 'blog' format as well.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:12:13 PM CDT

    Besides, Harry...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Didn't you get in trouble with the Academy? I remember a "leak" in which you pissed off the Academy and the readers of AICN. http://tinyurl.com/harryknowles001
    I still enjoy this website...but I think that it was in poor taste to criticize a guy for something that sounds a lot like what you were guilty of in the past.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:13:40 PM CDT

    Fiester

    by phategod2

    Ryan Reynolds Character is referred to As Wade as In Wade Winston Wilson a.k.a deadpool I believe it was him in the final scene but it could have well as been a Stuntman since he has no lines and he's wearing pretty heavy makeup.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:16:12 PM CDT

    Scriptgirl?

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Is that the name of some B-movie superhero? Oh...is it that subpar "celebrity" who writes "stars" in a ridiculous column each week? Ouch.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:18:31 PM CDT

    HARRY & MORI > TALKBACK DOUCHES

    by derek wildstarr

    Do the math. Mori and Harry are simply saying that they don't illegally download workprints and then review them on AICN. The idiot from Fox News did. So he is a fuck-tard. Story over.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:20:24 PM CDT

    You are really down with Moriarty's antics Harry? Really? Harry

    by thereal_jasonnicholl

    Harry...Moriarty completely slanders someone and your silence makes you an accomplice. I hope Wells reads this. Very sad that you have allowed your site to become this. Harry has had lots of moments like this, but I think this right here is your NUKING THE FRIDGE moment. Harry Knowles has officially NUKED THE FRIDGE!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:25:50 PM CDT

    NEEDS GIANT FUCKING ROBOTS

    by sal_bando

    Make an All Sentinels, All the Time X-men flick, and all will be well. You know I'm right.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:27:38 PM CDT

    What the hell is going on!?

    by ribbons

    Granted this is a touchy issue, but I never would have guessed that this particular article would have brought all the Harry and Drew haters crawling out of the woodwork. Then again considering I don't recognize 50% of the names here, I'm guessing that you Scorched Planet freaks e-mailed one another so that you could collectively "pwn" Moriarty with your disturbing encyclopedic knowledge of his personal history. Come on, people! We've got bigger fish to fry! Fuck Fox, etc! Seriously though, I don't understand what's going on here. Fox threatened anyone who downloaded their film with legal action, and one of their employees *reviewed* it. That's the whole story.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:29:27 PM CDT

    BoboKop must Bobo---ummm I remember ya.

    by sal_bando

    You got nuked here because of the idiot Tit-girl segments? really? what is Harold thinking w/ that shit anyways-? ZeroCorpse also had the same thing happen to him, too. Very sad.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:30:27 PM CDT

    EVERYBODY FORGETS...

    by thetajman

    99.9% of studio releases are PRODUCT TO BE CONSUMED. There may be some level "craft" involved, some degree of "artistry," some modicum of "personal insight" infused into the film, etc. but the producer/studio only wants one thing: UNITS SOLD, and hopefully SOLD OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. To that end, any publicity is, as they say, good publicity. And we fall for it, again and again.

    And reviews ain't news.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:32:03 PM CDT

    Oh, and...

    by ribbons

    ...it's cute that you Facer refugees are going on about how *this* is the day that Ain't It Cool News has officially "nuked the fridge" when you've been saying the same thing for 6 years.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:33:03 PM CDT

    NUKING THE FRIDGE

    by the angriest planet

    Pardon my ignorance but I assume "nuking the fridge" is akin to "jumping the shark." I don't know if AICN has nuked/jumped but this is truly a turning point in the site's history in the making. To all those on board the good ship AICN, I would seriously take a long look at your selves and decide what you want this site to be. If you're all "on the payroll" to the point where you tout the MPAA line on commenting on a pre-release screening or download, or, if you're touting the MPAA line on anything for that matter(MPAA...worst lobbying arm EVER), then you are all seriously need to reconsider your methodology. Everyone in whatever passes for entertainment journalism is compromised somewhat but you can't be an insider and an outsider at the same time. Or if you can, you need to be smarter than this. Go to your rooms and think about what you've done. Seriously, unless you want this site to become Aintitcol news, that wacky link site I get when I mistype the addy here.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:33:26 PM CDT

    Shhhh, Ribbons...

    by therealmoriarty

    ... stop making sense. Can't you see the natives are restless? This is about Ron Wells and "Spirited Away" and people who say "nuke the fridge" 9,000 times hoping it will somehow become clever. It's not about Fox or this particular case or any sort of reason at all. Silly Ribbons.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:34:12 PM CDT

    TomBodet, how've you been?

    by bobocop

    Yeah, that was the official reason given, but I think part of it may have been because I was partly the ringleader of the "Gone" talkbacks where me and some others created a continuation of that crappy youth fiction by writing how those characters travel to Austin to visit the man behind the curtain by giving him a jar of chocolate covered pussy juice and allowing him to have sex with a dead chick who had been fucked to death by a truck, LOL! Shame about ZeroCorpse, but he's better off, as am I. There's a better, brighter world out there.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:34:40 PM CDT

    BALLESS_BALSAC

    by total fucking destruction

    you need to learn how to read, dink. obviously your eyes did not pick up the distinct difference between me and my imposter with the underscores. look closer at the difference in the names. you'll see that there is only one, true TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:35:39 PM CDT

    Harry, explain this:

    by cool_britannia79

    'Personally, I will not conduct business or serious debates about journalistic ethics on the site. These discussions would be highly boring for most of you. They would be heated and passionate as there are always issues that would be disagreed upon. But these talks shouldn’t be about ‘playing to a crowd’ and making snipes at one another. They should be calm, cool and collected. They should be face to face and organized. And it should be 100% business. ' - Harry Knowles 2000. Care to explain why we have staffers sniping at talkbackers then? You guys have absolutely no legs to stand on and this debate is going to flood into every talkback until you issue an apology. I'm thinking of leaving the site, latino review is looking pretty good in comparison. The only thing this site has going for it is the talkbackers. If someone made a similar site with an identical talkback system you guys would be fucked. It's not like you post cool news anymore anyway.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:37:02 PM CDT

    Why yes there is Zero.

    by sal_bando

    I was nailed for about 6 months here, but whatever---it's still a festive time at the old ranch once the summer blockbusters come to fruition. We also get to see big Robots hitting Vulcans after the Terminator nuke-out. Seems like a good exchange. Spirited Away was kinda dull.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:37:11 PM CDT

    I fucked up that post...

    by bobocop

    ...fuck it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:37:27 PM CDT

    TO MY BELOVED IMPOSTER

    by total fucking destruction

    i know who you are. does that frighten you? it will. especially when you receive TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:39:28 PM CDT

    Silly Ribbons?

    by cool_britannia79

    It's EXACTLY about this case. You just have your heads so far up your asses you're dismissing anything that doesn't fit your hypocritical version of events.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:39:29 PM CDT

    RIbbons

    by balzacs_ballsac

    The reason you don't recognize fifty percent of the names on here and we all just happen to be feeding McWeeny his arse for breakfast is because he has abused his mod capabilities here for years and basically and tyrannically banned hundreds of long time posters for the crime of being in disagreement with his holy shiteness, like the insecure bloated pooftah he is, and we've all had to re-register under new names but we've carried our great hatred for this megalomaniacal twat ever since. He's total shite and he deserves it. Fuckin' self-important wanker.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:41:42 PM CDT

    @Moriarty...

    by thereal_jasonnicholl

    I love how your only response is the natives are restless. Good way to avoid the real issues. The real issues are not Harry or your stance on Wolverine, and it is not about the people saying "nuke the fridge" 9,000 times hoping it will somehow be clever. Dude, it already is clever and going to stick around, so much so that Time Magazine put it on their cover. NO, THE REAL ISSUE is that you and Harry have called out FOX and Roger Friedman for downloading an illegal copy of Wolverine, and you claim to take the high road. But all these people on here keep pointing out all the examples of your's and Harry's hypocricy. And neither of you want to address it. Unless you are both perfect on this issue you should not throw rocks.

    And also, your remake about Ron Wells being a prostitute who gives blow jobs for 25 cents was both slanderous and unprofessional, and I think you should own up to it and admit you stepped over the line. But I don't expect you to actually answer any of these charges, you will just keep dancing around them.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:42:12 PM CDT

    'Sides--we're still waitin' for Minor-Jeff and Uncapie's bout.

    by sal_bando

    I think the Real_Jake_Nicholls would be interested in setting that up, myself. And the winner-????? DrummmmmmmmmmmmRolle PLEASE: they get a GEOCITIES site! YES! it's a win-win situation-

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:43:36 PM CDT

    Sal Bando

    by bobocop

    I don't think I really like Blockbusters all that much. It's a nice escape for a few hours, but there's nothing to get excited about anymore. Definitely nothing worth reading about months and months before, only to have all those months of anticipation deflated in a couple hours. Johnny Depp is filming Rum Diary right now...that's pretty cool in terms of upcoming movies. Other than that, there really aren't any movies I'm looking forward to.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:43:38 PM CDT

    Forgive me if I'm being dense...

    by docpazuzu

    ...but after having read Mori's piece it seems most of you are missing the point. It's not so much actually calling for his firing as pointing out how hypocritical Fox are for NOT firing him, considering the blowtorch they apply to reviewers caught in similar, if not equal, situations. See, since Fox would NEVER fire him, their hypocrisy becomes that much more evident.

    A lot of you people seem to be awfully literal, to the detriment of your own capacity to grasp a point being made beyond the complexity of "Jane sees Spot run."

    The rest of you people howling for blood are simply using this as an excuse to get digs in regarding other AICN matters.

    I'm beginning to have huge problems with AICN myself, but I'm not about to castrate my legitimate gripes by spicing them up with irrelevant shit just because I'm pissed off.

    And like a talkbacker earlier pointed out -- if you can't back up your claims with links, then please, shut the fuck up. There's plenty of shitty stuff going on here at AICN as of late which can be criticized with the help of hard evidence. Anything else is pointless and makes you look like a tool.

    As for pirating, sure, I've downloaded a few things, but I've never downloaded anything that's new or currently available in commercial form. I've downloaded loads of VHS and LD rips of movies and shows which aren't available in any other form as well as out-of-print DVDs on occasion. I suppose that makes me a pirate of sorts, but I'm sure as hell not ripping anyone off by doing so.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:44:43 PM CDT

    There are no American tanks...

    by cool_britannia79

    ...within 50 miles of Baghdad says Moriarty! We believe him. Report at 11.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:45:10 PM CDT

    TheRealMoriarty

    by cranga

    It seems clear that the problem most people seem to be having is with the apparent hypocrisy of various AICN contributers and their statements on Friedman, piracy, and the Wolverine leak in general. I think a post on the front page addressing some of the main criticisms that TBers have would go a long way to calming down a great deal of this outpouring of hatred.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:47:27 PM CDT

    ...

    by thusspakespymunk

    The funniest part of all this is that we've got people saying how they think Harry and Drew are irrelevant ... and yet they're posting it on AICN Talkback. If it's so irrelevant, what are you DOING here, guys? That's about as dumb as casting Aang as a white dude.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:47:35 PM CDT

    Ahrrrrrrrrrr--AVAST----

    by sal_bando

    -------the PaZoozoo is a Pyrate?? Or a Viking-deuced Viking! Ahrrrrrrrrrr-- It's just been a snowball that's awl there PaZooz. It's the Hulk/Drew talkback of 6 years ago, part Too, if you like. Plus we have MrBobo here too-which makes for good readin'.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:48:24 PM CDT

    Mori, have you been monitoring this TB the whole time?

    by kief_ledger

    If so, care to comment on some of the harsher accusations (such as stealing your tv episode idea from a book) made against you instead of your usual holier-than-thou drivel that you spew? I didn't think so.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:48:25 PM CDT

    Oh and...

    by docpazuzu

    ...Scorched Planeteers are the scum of the internet. If you think AICN TB is a sewer, you should try perusing the SP message board.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:50:08 PM CDT

    McWeeny

    by balzacs_ballsac

    Bout time you showed up. Just couldn't stay away, eh? How does it feel to be so HATED by so many like you are you silly hypocritical cunt? We HATE you here and we LOVE watching your life and all your bullshit bigtalk slowly collapsing in on itself to the point where you have to lash out at anonymous TB'ers for some sense desperate misplaced sense of accomplishment and to vent your deep rage and eternal shame at the failure of your non-existant career. Poor, poor, McWeeny. Don't worry, you can always troll the AICN talkbacks and to get your douchebag superiority fix and pretend like you are some kind of bigshot which you NEVER will be. Btw, how does your arse feel after the royal shagging Creepythinman gave you? HE PWND YOU BITCH! You are irrelevant.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:50:49 PM CDT

    Is the SP board the leftovers of the Facer?

    by sal_bando

    This site really needs, in no particular order-The_Lion(for his film-making skills), Mercier(Troll-tastic), Fettastic(total loonacy) and of coures Ringy(can't have enough 1000 word posts about bats, eye-color and the proper shade of cgi flames you know). Get some of those guys back here and you KNOW it will be fun come Terminator/Bots time this spring.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:51:54 PM CDT

    Ain't It Cool News Talkbacks: The Movie

    by kief_ledger

    I'm going to translate the talkbacks to the silver screen in which it is a giant battle royale where nerds fight with sheets of paper taped to their chest with there screen name written on it. There will be certain talkbackers/warriors in the battle royale who band together, such as The Professionals. Alliances will be formed. Friendships will be tested. Blood will be shed. In the end, everyone will be killed except the talkbacker named TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:52:33 PM CDT

    This whole thing has been handled badly

    by truckmirrortarget

    AICN has lost what little geek cred it had left because of this. A site that made its bones by getting scoop is now seen to be kowtowing to the corporate powers that be. BAD. Why even mention the leak? Claim ignorance. Don't set up a Talkback for it. But no, that's not what you did.

    Beaks? Unbelievable. Could you make yourself seem like more of a jerk? Your rhetoric is over the top. Again, not cool. Back it off about 90 percent. Better yet, just ignore this issue. You obviously are not in agreement with the majority of Talkbackers, and insulting people and calling for Friedman's job is unnecessary. Let's not forget what this site has posted and done in the past.

    Is this the ultimate publicity stunt? I doubt it. Reshoots and added scenes aren't going to fix the major problems with the movie. Are they going to reshoot the last 2/3 of the movie? Recast Stryker? Eliminate Deadpool?

    As others have said, if word of mouth was positive Fox wouldn't be freaking out. Other movies have leaked and done well at the box office. Um, Slumdog Millionaire, Gran Torino, Taken----I saw all three at the theater AFTER I downloaded them. Difference is, those are good movies. I also downloaded the new U2 when it leaked---then bought the vinyl AND the CD. Downloading does not go hand in hand with dishonesty.

    There is no journalism here. Harry, geek supreme that he is, is not a journalist. He's like the lead character in "Almost Famous", except he was never able to maintain separation between fandom and objectivity. The "Godzilla" incident comes to mind. Funny how a paid junket resulted in a glowing review of a POS movie. The AOTC thing has been discussed to death. No, Harry is a fanboy who's easily bought off with promises of proximity of celebrity. He's been banned from Fox press screenings---maybe this current situation is his way of weaselling back into the good graces of Fox?

    I'm sure everybody has downloaded it. Mori, Beaks, Harry--there's no way ubergeeks like you haven't taken a look. Again, I wonder what the reaction would be if the film was good. But it's not good. It's an abomination. It's X3. It's Dolph Lundgren Punisher.

    I remember the old days here, when I might actually learn something interesting. I remember when there was a punk/geek ethos here, outsiders peeking in, raging against the machine. Now it's a cog in that machine. I hope whatever Fox has promised you guys is worth it. You are officially over.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:52:34 PM CDT

    DocPazuzu, don't you work for AICN?

    by bobocop

    Or did you work for AICN at one time?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:52:54 PM CDT

    Naw Ringy9 will the one left standing.

    by sal_bando

    Yew can't kill him. He's still hanging onto Oliver the Friendly Bat 4 years after-

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:54:16 PM CDT

    Another Big Difference

    by thusspakespymunk

    Harry and Drew aren't paid by studios to review movies. They do it because they love it - and the fact that they can still love it while swallowing all the douche-water you all throw at them is cause to give them some credit. I know I couldn't put up with the fetid breath spilling out from each of you negative megadicks.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:57:28 PM CDT

    Bando

    by docpazuzu

    Word. Where are all the unintentionally funny trolls these days? It's all just bile and shit now. Part of the blame is firmly on the shoulders of the new AICN.

    And where the hell is Mercier? How could a compulsive, infuriating, attention-whoring poster who called himself "THE KING OF TALKBACK" suddenly just up stakes and vanish?

    Weird.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:59:16 PM CDT

    Bobo

    by docpazuzu

    According to zfisk/homewrecker, I'm not only 80% of all talkbackers (including you) but also Mori himself.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 5:59:49 PM CDT

    ThusSpake

    by bobocop

    The reason Harry and co. put up with all the "douchewater" as you call it from talkbackers is because I would estimate that about 95% of the hits at this site (or higher) are generated by talkbackers either posting in talkbacks or clicking to check who responded to their talkback message. They could always shut the talkbacks down, but this place would become a ghost town. Tumbleweeds and all. You think people come here because of Harry's wonderful command of the English language? LOL

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:01:42 PM CDT

    Mercier prob. is Ryan Seacrest.

    by sal_bando

    You'll never know. Some stuff that would make this site fun again-more of those Stallone 10 Questions things, more of those Quint Movie a Day's, things like that. Harold is SUCH a film-freak, you'd think he'd come in some day and say: You know, Ray Milland was pretty Okay. I'll break out 'The Big Clock' and 'Charlie Chan in London' and 'X, the Man w/ X-Ray Eyes' and just review'em and give an appreciation of the guys career. From the Harold point of view. I respect his expertise on this shit, no really I do. But you'd NEVER never know it from alotta the postings you see here by him and some of the other writers now. Mercier was a riot. Your little rants w/ Ringy were priceless too. The_Lion was gonna out-duel Kevin Smith w/ his little movie about a shower stall. All good times.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:05:22 PM CDT

    Y'know what else was on the cover of Time Magazine?

    by derlanghaarige

    An alien from Independence Day, together with the headline "Apocalypse Pow".

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:06:04 PM CDT

    Sal

    by bobocop

    When it comes time to promote "The Expendables", you can likely expect plenty of personal messages from Stallone to AICN, and possibly another 10 question things. It's gotta be a gazillion times easier just emailing the answer to 10 questions to Harry than sitting through hours upon hours of press junkets. Despite his obvious attempt to shill his movie, Stallone seemed pretty cool. And Bruce Willis confirmed to me that he's the douche I've always know that he was. And I'm convinced that ABKing is the primary shareholder in Planet Hollywood, so is desperately trying to ressurect the careers of the 3 aging action dinosaurs: Stallone, Willis, and Schwarzenegger. Either that or ABking is a raging homo. LOL!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:09:10 PM CDT

    ABKING is basically to Ahnold as--

    by sal_bando

    --Herkimer is to all things Joss Whedon AKA Hackimer. You know I'm right. One of the more entertaining eras of this site was when Jurassic_Kong came out, then a couple years later, when Big Robots(Hitting Each Other) took over the screens. Good times both. I think Messi was nuked here awhile back--where is that Green Lantern obsessed freak anyways?--but I am sure YackBacker is still here.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:11:38 PM CDT

    So where is MrGeyser amidst all this?

    by sal_bando

    can't have The PaZoozoo show up w/out MrGeyser. Seems to always be a tag-team event. Sorta.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:13:51 PM CDT

    Don't forget Tubgirl Tonay

    by seppukudkurosawa

    Without whom the phrase "browncoat" wouldn't exist, as he and his alts consisted of about 90% of them. I think he was also the first person to get AICN to lock new talkback registrations, too. Speaking of which, that might have something to do with why the talkbacks are a whole lot of nothing lately. People who stumble across an article and actually have something to say can't make a new account and say their piece. Instead we're left with post after post of attention whoring. Glad to see they've been reopened.

    And I can't believe I'm gonna say this, but I totally agree with Spazuzu* on the Scorched Planet fartknockers. For all of you who gave scarythinman all those slaps on the back for "owning" Moriarty, you might like to know that they're probably the second racist site on the net, after stormfront.org.

    Not that I don't agree that AICN's hardheaded attitude against piracy (oh noez, it's the LAW!!!) is a bit suspect... I wouldn't be surprised if they'd been browbeaten by the studios into taking that stance. Come on, if you love movies, if they're your crack, you'll do anything any way possible to watch them. Especially if you're stone broke. I know that Harry & Co, if they didn't have screeners and DVDs dropping through their mailboxes every morning, and were as poor as the rest of us, would be hitting the rapidshare and torrent sites every day.
    *had to do it...for old times' sake.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:14:09 PM CDT

    Why even mention the leak?

    by truckmirrortarget

    Surely you(Harry) didn't think you could possibly come off looking like anything other than a corporate lackey?



    You should have ignored the whole thing. Ghost, baby.


    But no. Now you've hung yourself.


    Stupid.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:15:26 PM CDT

    There is 1 thing that is dumber than "Nuked The Fridge".

    by derlanghaarige

    It's "Jurassic Kong". Seriously, what's up with that? Because it had Dinosaurs? Like...the original King Kong from 1933?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:15:28 PM CDT

    Lol

    by maceox

    My My My My. What a pathetic talk back. Like watching a Jerry Springer show full of acne ridden, overweight, loser geeks. Have your mom heat you up a hot pocket and calm down. The ultimate irony is calling for the downfall of AICN but continuing to post here. Wow just wow.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:16:09 PM CDT

    it's King SeePooKoo---

    by sal_bando

    ---of course--- who else? So what happened to that Stiller/Wilson remake of F-Troop-? w/ CGI Robert Stack-? I think it woulda worked--John Larroquette was in there too-

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:16:10 PM CDT

    Gambit

    by truckmirrortarget

    Should be HARRY CONNICK JR. Duh. He's funny. He's Cajun. He looks young. Obvious casting.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:17:11 PM CDT

    So which one of you is Goat_Zinger?

    by ribbons

    I'm gonna guess Sal Bando based on that reference to "Jurassic Kong," and also based on the fact that you seem to be the most annoying.

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  • ...it may have been linked from this site, I forget. But he basically said in not so many words, that the series "Lost" is all about building suspense without ever giving any answers. He likened it to this mystery magic kit he bought as a kid for $20. It had a huge question mark on it, and he never opened it. He said the mystery and suspense of what was in the box was far better than anything that could have been in there, and he said that pretty much sums up "Lost".
    In other words, the show is a colossal waste of time. That's like sacrilege at this site, right?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:17:34 PM CDT

    Connick Jr is great--

    by sal_bando

    ---why didn't they do that I wonder--

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:19:27 PM CDT

    Fucking up Deadpool....

    by fiester

    Is like shooting yourself in the groin in a roomful of hot nymphos.


    Why? Why? Why?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:20:20 PM CDT

    -and which one is der Ribbons--

    by sal_bando

    --why it's Ribbons of course. Sir Platitudes. As for Der Lainguage---just Google 'Jurassic Kong'. Believe you me-I didn't exactly originate that tag for Sir Petey Jax's little Monkey Poo tossing Opus. You of course may continue to burnish and re-visit your 1000 hours of on-set JURASSIC KONG footage DVD set all ya wanna though, of course----

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:22:55 PM CDT

    On another tangent, why does Vern use an alias?

    by bobocop

    I mean, even his book has an alias. Didn't he already serve his time? He's doesn't have outstanding warrants does he? Or is it because having his photo shown and his criminal record known might scare away potential employers? Just curious, I like Vern.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:25:05 PM CDT

    Here Der Langy--

    by sal_bando

    http://tinyurl.com/cmvt8b There's tons of it. Trust me. This was easy.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:26:18 PM CDT

    I never said that you invented Jurassic Kong.

    by derlanghaarige

    I just said it's dumb to use it. Especially after I googled it and still found no other explaination than some people thought that there never were Dinosaurs on Skull Island until Peter Jackson came up with that.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:28:23 PM CDT

    What exactly is this Vern anyways?

    by sal_bando

    So weird--you have this guy who has this online Persona for about a solid decade, gets published, has a site, comes off like being Joe Bob Briggs Jr. etc w/ an odd Segal fetish--seems to be (relatively) well-known- but besides being a Tacoma-ite, well--you never see him on camera or interviewed or whatever. I think he came THIS CLOSE to having a major melt-down when Big Robots Hitting Each Other One came out a couple years back---which was so WEIRD. It's just a Mikey_Bay movie. Move along, nothin' to see, Hasbro CGI shit, move along--

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:31:56 PM CDT

    Der Langy--look closely at the ID's you see on this TB.

    by sal_bando

    Come on-Creepy Thin Man etc? DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD, supercowbell4therequestformoreco wbell, CreepyThinMansPreciousLittleLife, etc---and you're freaked about a rather Wellknown nickname for a bloated Big Monkey movie? Think about it for a second.....See?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:33:07 PM CDT

    All I know is...

    by seppukudkurosawa

    his surname begins with H. I once got into an email convo with him when he was compiling his list of the Top 100 Most Badass Movies. So maybe the Vern moniker isn't just something he uses to sound mythic and manly...like Divine and Bono, and it's his real name?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:34:35 PM CDT

    Alright, I think I'm done walking down memory lane....

    by bobocop

    You can ban me now.

    Adios.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:34:51 PM CDT

    Damn, the amount of animosity in this talkback.

    by orionsangels

    Not since the great Phantom Menace talkback of 99. Have I seen this much name calling and just plain hatred in the geek fandom culture. Can we all just...get along...just...get along?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:36:28 PM CDT

    SeePooKoo--yer prob right?

    by sal_bando

    The guy's Real voice sometimes creeps into the Leo Gordon/Lawrence Tierney persona, just makes ya wonder. Hey he can make a buck doing it, more power to him--be it a gimmick or the real thing. I've no real use for his stuff, just not my thing. Hey the Metsies Signed Sheffield. YAYYYYYYY. Another gimpy 40 year old DH who hit .178 in Spring training---woweee--

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:37:04 PM CDT

    Ace of Wands

    by the reluctant austinite

    Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't have inserted my opinions on the whole leaked "Wolverine" debacle in the same post with my attempt to bring some sort of moral civility to these preceedings. I was just trying to kill two birds with one post. It's fine that you think my opinions are "junk." They're just opinions, and beleive me, I've got a whole lot more of 'em where those came from, but I'm serious about the hurtful and spiteful things people say about each other here. That's not coming here "to have fun," that's coming here to vent hate and anger. We can be better than that.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:38:56 PM CDT

    Well enough of this...

    by sal_bando

    .......have a good one there BoboKop, PaZooz and SeePooKoo. This TB is dead--

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:40:53 PM CDT

    Well...yeah.

    by derlanghaarige

    That nickname is just completely incorrect, doesn't matter if you love or hate Jackson's King Kong. I don't care for the names of the talkbackers, because they just wrote what they came up with.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:46:04 PM CDT

    Another "Death of AICN" talkback

    by ebonic_plague

    This place dies more often than a comic book villain. Though I do love it when Harry and the other reviewers suit up for talkback and chastise the rabble, it's like yelling at cattle blocking your way on the highway. Pointlessly entertaining. But anyone associated with Scorched Planet or the fucking Facer deserves their shame.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:48:49 PM CDT

    Take care, Sal

    by bobocop

  • Apr 04, 2009 6:52:09 PM CDT

    By the way, ebonic_plague

    by bobocop

    You're a longtime AICNer, and one of the most pretentious. Your posts can usually be found at the bottom of a talkback and usually consist of a few sentences characterizing talkbackers in a snobbish manner. For some reason, I always pictured you looking like Carlton Banks with your nose held high.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 6:56:38 PM CDT

    I DO have a nice collection of sweater vests

    by ebonic_plague

    At least I'm not a "FIRST" poster. Besides, I'm wallowing in this shit like everyone else. Don't hate me because I'm beautiful.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:02:19 PM CDT

    Exactly, ebonic

    by bobocop

    "Besides, I'm wallowing in this shit like everyone else."
    As long as you know it. Peace.
    By the way, Reluctant Austinite, do you have a vagina?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:02:32 PM CDT

    What can fox do?

    by shallowdepths

    at this point, I think the only logical act for FOX to take, would be to somehow get the "GOOD" version of this film out there ASAP. Everyone I know has already seen this, and the majority of them had the same half-hearted bland reaction. If FOX claims to have a better version on the table, they need to shut the naysayers up somehow.
    This particular leak will destroy a movie like this. Most people dont even know that theres more planned for the actual release. Someone I know who saw it actually thought they left the wire-shots in by mistake...

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:06:03 PM CDT

    MAYBE IF THEY SHOW THE 15 minutes

    by phategod2

    thats supposed to make this movie a blockbuster that will shut all the naysayers but what are the odds.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:06:15 PM CDT

    Bobo--

    by the reluctant austinite

    --I'm a nice guy, but don't make me get medieval on your ass.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:15:25 PM CDT

    The Reluctant Austinite

    by bobocop

    Oh, you're a guy, okay. I think you should see your doctor and get your estrogen levels checked, they might be a bit high. Do you suffer from gynecomastia (man-boobs)? You might need a testosterone shot, LOL

    I'm just messin' with ya. Peace, bro.

    *puts the Reluctant Austinite in a headlock and musses up his hair...his thick, girlish hair* :P

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:19:25 PM CDT

    Does Harry realize AVATAR is a Fox picture?

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

    Or does Harry's hypocracy only rear it's head when Fox decides to take it's dick out of his ass...I can't wait for JJ Abram's to work on a Fox picture, or Sly Stallone or any other dozen filmmakers that Harry knowles sits under their table waiting for fucking table scraps...what then?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:20:14 PM CDT

    The ONLY reason Harry shits on FOX is because of AOTC

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

    And everyone fucking knows it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:20:21 PM CDT

    @Harry and that there Moriarity character!!!

    by orionsangels

    You guys rock! Keep up the good work!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:23:31 PM CDT

    Orionsangel

    by bobocop

    I read you once say that you suscribed to Scriptgirl on Youtube, therefore all your words should be regarded as the ramblings of a deeply troubled individual.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:28:44 PM CDT

    Sal_Bando, you rang?

    by yackbacker

    What's the big commotion about? Roger Friedman is a hack and a crook, apparently. I love BAYFORMERS! Mori is back on the boards! I just got aroused watching Kate Mara in SHOOTER (giggity). Am I all caught up?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:34:00 PM CDT

    You're right Bob! Wah!!!

    by orionsangels

    Hold on a sec, while I attempt to give a fuck what anyone at AICN's thinks about me. Ok done. Nope didn't work.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:48:03 PM CDT

    there're no degrees of illegality

    by lavatory love machine

  • Apr 04, 2009 7:53:37 PM CDT

    CENSORSHIP IS NEVER "THE RIGHT THING"

    by berserkrl

    and "copyright" is censorship. http://tinyurl.com/c6d67l

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:56:56 PM CDT

    There's this magic box right...

    by orionsangels

    and millions have it and you can get free things on it, from the private comfort of your living room. How do you fight that?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:59:16 PM CDT

    Are you fucking serious?

    by whinynegativebitch

    He's doing his bit for his pay cheque, trying to spin the film as good. You want Fox to fire him because you got banned from the ranch? He shills for fox, you guys shill for everyone else. Whats the big deal? Moriarty spitting mad? You mean a guy who, until hollywood threw him a tiny bone, reviewed stolen material and STOLE material all the time? I think you guys should try and get some work based on your own merit and you wouldn't have to suck as much dick. Fox knows, just like everyone else, that they have to get into the communications end of the market. Instead of people paying 60 bucks a month, or whatever, to comcast, pay it to fox, download all the goddamn fox material you want. Its the way its headed. Mostly, I think Harry, Moriarty and Co. are pissed that being able to preview a movie a month out from release puts their jobs and corporate shills in jeapordy and it means no more free shit for them. I don't even know why we are still covering the topic, shits old, its done, everyone has seen the movie, and most hated it. Its not like Where The Wilds Are leaked, this is just some more Paul Blart style junk.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 7:59:58 PM CDT

    Don't Believe it, Ace

    by thusspakespymunk

    The hatred here is for one reason: Talkbackers are, for the most part, hateful people. Fanboys are, for the most part, hateful. They are flat-out incapable of caring, loving relationships or friendships that extend beyond Beavis & Butt-Head pathos. They're positively filled with negativity. It's what makes them fanboys instead of productive members of society. Me? I'm just here for the chipmunks.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:05:19 PM CDT

    Roger Friedman was just FIRED!!!

    by thereal_jasonnicholl

    Guess Fox does have some ethics and standards they follow. How about you Harry? Will you continue to allow Moriarty to slander people on your website? Will you continue to stand by your AOTC review as not being wrong because you didn't personally steal it? All while chastizing people on here for DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE DONE...you hypocrite.

    For the source of Friedman's firings go check Nikki Finke over at DeadlineHollywoodDaily.com, a real reporter.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:08:21 PM CDT

    Its really sad when I am breaking new on your website

    by thereal_jasonnicholl

    instead of mine own. But you know what, I wasn't the hypocrite who made an issue and called out Fox and Friedman for doing exactly the same thing I do all the time. You going to issue an apology Harry?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:08:49 PM CDT

    JimBobCooter

    by whinynegativebitch

    The film was stolen. Actually stolen. Like taken out of the office so harry could watch. Friedman didn't steal anything. He watched a copy of something that had been stolen. Its copyright infringement. If Harry and Co. want to argue that nothing but the specifics of this incident matter, then the specifics are that a guy whose job it is to promote Fox movies watched an unfinished copy of a fox movie and is now trying to sell it as best he can so that bad word of mouth can be abated. I'm not sure why anyone should or would get fired over that? Its hypocritical of FOX, but we're talking about a company founded by a man who had no problem breaking the legs of rivals (literally) when he was coming up in the world. And as has been pointed out numerous times, this site was founded on copyright infringement and reporting leaks that studios would argue cause massive damage to the opening financial take of films. Which is why I would have either just shrugged and said "hmmm. Interesting." or at least discussed HOW in this day and age, studios still allow films to leak. I certainly wouldn't be throwing stones in glass houses.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:09:45 PM CDT

    You only want him punished because it was FOXNEWS.

    by solartaco3

    It is, isn't it?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:12:05 PM CDT

    Why hasn't AICN reviewed Wolverine yet???

    by trazadone

    The entire premise of this site is that AICN is the first place to go for cool leaks, spoilers, photos, etc. This should be AICN's shining moment! Why no review? Don't give me the "it's illegal" crap. AICN reviewed Attack of the Clones way before it came out. This just shows me that AICN is no longer "cool" but rather it's now just another corporate sponsor. Get your balls back, AICN. The fact that you can watch Wolverine is huge news. I know you've all watched it so where's the review?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:13:52 PM CDT

    Errrrrmmmmmmm....

    by kingoftheprawnmen

    Didn't Harry used to do a movie show for Sky.......AKA Fox.....AKA Rupert murdoch.....erm......not sure????

    Just a thought.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:15:23 PM CDT

    Long live Mori and Harry.........

    by yoda's ball sack

    Their code of morality, ethics, and professionalism are dead.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:19:06 PM CDT

    Keep pushing it guys & this could be the end of AICN.

    by orionsangels

    This is the most intense talkback in the history of mankind or since they canceled Friends.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:20:48 PM CDT

    Harry, this is a deeply unpleasant mess.

    by c legion

    Some nasty stuff here from Talkbackers and Drew alike.Harry, it's time to step in and revoke Drew's blackbox privileges, because regardless if he's right or wrong on this issue, the guy is seriously pissing off a lot of your regulars, and has been increasingly doing so for a while.He has his own site, let him spit bile there, the guy is losing you, and your site, a lot of goodwill.We may make fun of you Harry, but the fact is 99.9% of us really do like you, and your genuine passion for film (however misguided we may think it is at times). But Drew needs to be ditched, he's a boil that seriously needs to lanced.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:20:56 PM CDT

    LOL.

    by whinynegativebitch

    Read the Fox news post. Promoting mass murder and theft is okay, but downloading a movie is WRONG.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:22:33 PM CDT

    They need to tackle the Nuke Fridge on Mythbusters.

    by orionsangels

    The problem is we never know where or when a Nuclear Bomb is gonna detonate.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:24:04 PM CDT

    Deadline H'wood Daily confirmed- Friedman's gone.

    by pennsy

    http://tinyurl.com/d749hv

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:25:14 PM CDT

    DeadlineHollywooddaily has the update...

    by -guyinthebackrow

    The guy got fired.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:25:31 PM CDT

    It's fine to download and review this.

    by bjornegar

    It's just pathetic to actually want to watch it. Superheroes are the new teen slashers. They'll never go away, and they'll never really be any good.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:27:50 PM CDT

    Everyone just relax!!!

    by orionsangels

    Let's sing camp fire songs, "I bought a toothbrush, some toothpaste, a flannel for my face. Pajamas, a hairbrush, new shoes and a case. I said to my reflection, Let's get out of this place. Passed the church and the steeple, the laundry on the hill Billboards and the buildings. Memories of it still keep calling
    and calling, but forget it all I know I will. Tempted by the fruit of another. Tempted but the truth is discovered. What's been going on. Now that you have gone. There's no other. Tempted by the fruit of another. Tempted but the truth is discovered."

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:27:55 PM CDT

    Trazadone

    by whitty

    They haven't reviewed Wolverine because they're too busy posting news about Saturday Night Live, Survivor, Fast and Furious and other complete and utter crap that doesn't deserve coverage. They're also too busy hawking goods in Yoko's terrible column. And trying to pretend people actually want to read ScriptGirl's pointlesness. And, in Moriarty's case, verbally abusing people. Years ago, when this site actually mattered and the powers that be weren't paid sell-out hypocrites, they would have already have a review posted by this point. And everyone here knows it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:31:03 PM CDT

    berserkrl - copyright isnt censorship and you bullshit site...

    by bmacsmith

    and the law they almost got passed last year will bury artistic expression and make it impossible to make a living as an artist. fuck off.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:31:18 PM CDT

    penhapus

    by bjornegar

    Pre-release downloaders do us all a public service. They waste their enthusiasm for the latest crap product on the rough-cut, and they tell us to avoid it. We don't waste a good 20 bucks or-so come opening weekend. Studios see a downturn in the openings of crap product and decide to make less of it. Everybody wins like Special Olympics! I'm grateful to them, and I'm happy they are able to do me this solid without cost to themselves.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:33:35 PM CDT

    berserkrl you're insane

    by murdermostfowl

    A world without copyrights would be a world without movies... or a zillion shitty art movies. This is america man, and like it or not, nothing motivates someone better than money. If you can't enforce an artist's ability to be compensated for his trade, then he's going to pick up shop and leave.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:33:55 PM CDT

    indy IV didnt nuke the fridge until much later

    by bmacsmith

    they should call it 'swinging the Shia' or 'pulling a LaBeouf'

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:35:03 PM CDT

    I wanna dip my balls in it!

    by biffs_pleasure_paradise

  • Apr 04, 2009 8:35:53 PM CDT

    TheRealMoriarty?

    by whinynegativebitch

    You got your jobs because your track record earnt it? I guess those knee pads were a good investment. No one stole AOTC? So Harry just made the whole thing up. I'm having a tough time figuring out how he managed to see a movie in a hotel room if said movie was never stolen.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:37:14 PM CDT

    BMacSmith

    by berserkrl

    Of course it's censorship; look up the definition of censorship and then explain how it's not. You may think it's justified censorship, but that's another matter. In any case, there are ways of securing reimbursement to the artist other than copyright. Under the present system most of the money goes to big publishing companies and movie companies rather than to the artists; that's something we're trying to change instead of just singing hosannas to the plutocratic status quo.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:39:27 PM CDT

    #1 Lesson Learned: BOYCOTT HITFIX

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Access Hollywood already has a website. Fuck off Hitfix.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:39:34 PM CDT

    MurderMostFowl

    by berserkrl

    There's a large and growing literature on how artists can be -- and historically have been -- compensated without copyright laws, and how in fact copyright laws tend to shaft the actual artist in favour of the corporate elite. If you have refutations of that literature I'd like to hear it.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:39:58 PM CDT

    Despite the fact that its Saturday Night

    by optimuscrime

    This talkback has been a swirling maelstrom of just and proper complaints against the powers that be at AICN. I haven't seen so much agreement in TB since everybody pretty much thought it was too bad about Heath Ledger. This type of intensity deserves some kind of response from a black box (a real response, not drivel from someone who "quit" weeks ago.)

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:40:08 PM CDT

    Moriarty, according to GQ "Nuke the Fridge" is witty.

    by sloopjohnb

    So I think you're mistaken on that one.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:40:18 PM CDT

    Moriarty, according to GQ "Nuke the Fridge" is witty.

    by sloopjohnb

    So I think you're mistaken on that one.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:40:56 PM CDT

    Friedman is gone.

    by juansanchez

  • Apr 04, 2009 8:44:12 PM CDT

    Harry's source took a great personal risk...

    by bjornegar

    ...to invite him over to watch a shitty copy of a shitty version of a shitty movie.First, calling it a "source" implies this - this site, this Talkback, Harry, McWeeney, all of it - is "journalism." Get over yourselves.
    Second, one man's risk-taker is another man's pirate. Only the people with the money can make a clear distinction.
    Third, always, ALWAYS, fuck the people with money. If you don't, you can count on them fucking you.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:46:49 PM CDT

    Corey Doctorow is a case in point.

    by whinynegativebitch

    His sales have risen since making his work available for free on the net. The idea that no one will go to a movie once they have seen it on the net is ludicrous, and as box office takings demonstrate, statistically false. What leaks endanger is the ability to sell shoddy half assed work. Before you could make a piece of shit, market it well, get a group of cocksuckers on the internet who are desperate to get a job writing shitty TV to lie about how its the single greatest achievement in western culture and try and score a buck. When people can preview (and this really is an unfinished preview) said product and think "Shit, if I'm going to take a group of friends/Ball and chain to the movies tonight, it won't be for this piece of shit" it negates all of that other junk. If people having previously seen a movie means they won't watch it again, how do you explain me and many others watching The Dark Knight twice, or Watchmen twice? What about films I had previously watchd online, like Grindhouse or Let The Right One In, that I then travelled an extra amount of distance for to see on the big screen? Of course, when I see Ong Bak 2 early (although I did buy it...wether it was entirely legal or not I don't know) I know I sure as fuck won't ever pay to watch it in a cinema. But hey, we've already been through this shit in the other talk back. To get back on topic, Moriarty is a fucking hypocrite, etc.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:47:22 PM CDT

    WhinyNegativeBitch -- Yeah what do you fucking understand?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    The guys that showed Harry AOTC didn't STEAL the movie, because they returned it. Harry was never in possession of the film, he merely VIEWED a print of it. So by that logic, it would be perfectly acceptable to stream Wolverine but not allow access to download it, right? Because nobody is actually in POSSESSION of the film if they are just streaming. They would simple be viewing it, right?
    MOTHERFUCKING hypocrites. These past few days, this site has fucking disgusted me. Yet I, like the rest of you dumb fucks continue to contribute to the success of these horrible human beings. Drew knows better than any of us because he is a card carrying WGA member. Nevermind the fact that he couldn't come up with an original concept for a screenplay if someone held a fucking gun to his Grandma's face. He's a WGA member, which means he automatically deserves respect, right? Riiiiiight. This place is a fucking opportunistic shithole. And all you spinless motherfuckers defending AICN over this shit can drop fucking dead. They are 100% in the wrong here. I'm not defending illegal downloading at all. I'm simply pointing out the gross hypocrisy that this site slams down your throat like handfuls of AIDS infected semen. FUCK ALL OF YOU.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:55:59 PM CDT

    Wow Drew. Hitfix is blowing up. You got 25 comments.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    But don't worry. You'll never have to resort to selling burgers like Ron Wells. Nope. You've managed to elevate yourself to the point where you'll always have a gig. Whether you return to AICN or continue to get scraps thrown at you for script coverage-- you'll always be in "The Industry." You've done well for yourself, there will always be a nice swollen dick for you to suck on and make a name for yourself. Keep up the good work. Your family should be proud.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:56:55 PM CDT

    DocPazuzu is moviemack.

    by bjornegar

  • Apr 04, 2009 8:59:07 PM CDT

    And now Drew can say...

    by bjornegar

    he's as much of a dick as the guys who run FOX News.
    It won't be too long, and you'll be bringing down Presidents! Congratulations!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:59:44 PM CDT

    Pathetic

    by bluehawaiisurfer

    I'm not sure what is worse...
    1) Some people actually believed this pile of shit would be GOOD. Considering the first three just SUCKED so hard. This franchise deserves a reboot if anything does.
    2) What they did to D.P. and the rest of the characters. OUCH.
    3) People are actually arguing about this. I didn't see this much "LOVE" for the business when Taken was released in DVD quality BEFORE the releasae day. Taken wasn't a good movie, but it was 10x better than this turd bucket.
    4) When you do a google news search on this Friedman guy Harry's picture is at the top of the page. He's everywhere. :o)

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  • Apr 04, 2009 8:59:50 PM CDT

    JuanSanchez wasn't clear enough: Friedman has been fired.

    by jayesstee

    http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-fox-news-fires-showbiz-columnist-for-encouraging-piracy/

    http://tinyurl.com/d749hv

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:02:40 PM CDT

    Looks like Moriarty has visited....

    by total_fucklng_destruction

    Friedman and left a gift basket chocked full of TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:02:45 PM CDT

    The main lesson I've learned from this talkback

    by kief_ledger

    is that McWeeny is a cunt and Harry is a hypocrite. Well, that puts my mind at ease.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:06:52 PM CDT

    And guaranteed that scumbad Drew takes credit.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Lets expect a full write up on this where he claims to be the savior of "The Industry." What a fucking joke. Continue writing horribly unoriginal shit no one gives a fuck about.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:07:14 PM CDT

    SCUMBAG. FUCK YOU.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 04, 2009 9:08:26 PM CDT

    TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION = QUINT?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    If it is true. You and Vern are the only decent things left on here. The two of you need to start your own fucking site.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:10:47 PM CDT

    Fake TFD

    by total_fucklng_destruction

    You left and I filled your absence. I am now the true TFD. Now get back in line with the rest and await TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:15:48 PM CDT

    Quint cant start his own site...

    by whinynegativebitch

    ...Hes actually you know, going to work in the industry. I mean WORK in the industry, not plagarize Ted Roszak for a tv script to be directed by a washed up has been.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:28:07 PM CDT

    Dude is right

    by happybunni

    It is easier to download and watch movies in my own home. If I like something I will buy it on DVD. if I don't, the movie didn't deserve any money.Maybe they should stop putting so much crap out there. And get with the times to create an alternative to downloading.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:28:12 PM CDT

    I think I get it...

    by axel fff

    As long as Harry's the only one who views a film not meant for the public's eyes, it's okay. But if everyone with an internet connection has the same opportunity, it's bad. Makes perfect fucking sense.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:33:48 PM CDT

    Long live Mori and Harry.........

    by yoda's ball sack

    Their code of morality, ethics, and professionalism are dead.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:39:18 PM CDT

    Yoda's Ball Sack

    by reaganjn

    I dont think they ever had any. They are part of Hollywood after all.

    Its all about the almighty dollar with Harry. Yeah, thats right. A dollar at any cost. FATFUCK is just as bad as the corporations he slams everyday.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 9:46:02 PM CDT

    no subject

    by proper

    Two phrases I have learned from this TB = Flame Warrior & Maximum Stuntcock,now thats a movie that needs to be made.http://tinyurl.com/5yelpn

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:04:50 PM CDT

    That journalist shouldn't be fired...

    by elgordo

    for reviewing the film, as idiotic reviewing an unfinished film is, but for distributing the film created by his parent company. He does that by downloading it through a torrent which distributes it at the same time. So of course he should be fired for engaing in a criminal activity.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:09:13 PM CDT

    Quint is always welcome at www.aintitbalenews.com

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 04, 2009 10:10:12 PM CDT

    This talkback needs...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...the drama button. http://www.dramabutton.com/

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:13:06 PM CDT

    For fucks sake Jason Nicholls

    by em_tee_em

    Get off of Ron Wells' jock... Oh noes, Drew said mean things about some guy that once said mean things about Drew so now you say mean things about Drew and Drew says mean things about talkbackers and boo hoo hoo how will any of us ever get past this?Oh yeah we're grown ups and don't give a fuck. Look Harry's a fucking hypocrite. Drew's a fucking hypocrite. Beaks is a giant douchebag. These are things we can all agree on except ThusSpakeSpymunk, but nobody gives a fuck about Ron Wells or his precious reputation except you and his mom.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:16:36 PM CDT

    Sour Grapes?

    by impossiblefunky

    Isn't this the kind of stuff that made AICN famous? Reviewing early releases/screenings/work prints? Isn't this just jealousy speaking?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:21:01 PM CDT

    Nuke The Fridge

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:25:16 PM CDT

    Question

    by mjbok1

    I used to be a daily reader here, but in the past few years have only come here through portals like Fark or other such sites. When did Drew get so pissed?

    He always used to seem like the level headed one. I do respect the success that he has had in the industry. With that said, here is something from a Hulk talkback that I went and found:

    Look at this quote from Moriarty from article: http://www.aintitcool.com/disp lay.cgi?id=8405 "David Cross is one of the funniest stand-up comics I've ever seen, and I'm a total freak for live comedy. His HBO special THE PRIDE IS BACK was an outstanding one-hour, as good as they get, and I would never... NEVER.. suggest that you go find it on Napster. Now. Quick." How is this any different? It has been covered here quite well, but this whole rant is just a hypocritical stance. Ill-gotten scripts, AOTC, work-prints, the whole fiasco with Joe Hallenbeck. This is a topic that the higher-ups here have no right to comment on unless they own up to their own misdeads. Something about glass-houses...

    As you can see in that quote Moriarty does not ask people to download (or pirate if you wish) the Hulk workprint, but he does encourage you to download something else illegally.

    Just saying.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:27:46 PM CDT

    Wolverine makes X3 look like The Deer Hunter

    by fanboy71

    DAMN this movie sucks. At least that's what my buddy told me. He watched it in a hotel room with Hugh Jackman's hairdresser's brother's sister's uncle's cousin, and then returned the workprint to the safe before anyone knew it was missing, so really no one was hurt.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:28:43 PM CDT

    WHAT THE HELL?

    by lanalangsucks

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPIRITED AWAY. [10:52] -Moriarty- BUT I AM WITHIN FIVE MINUTES!! [10:52] -Moriarty- IT WILL BE MINE!! [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- You have cable? [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- You lucky man. [10:52] -MCVamp- 25 hours good god. [10:52] -BladeRunnerUnit- moriarty, why would you do such a thing? [10:52] -Moriarty- This is the longest any film has ever taken. [10:52] -DirtyRatBastard- Spirited Away? [10:53] -Neth- Moriarty - don't sweat it. It's taken Coolashop.com 2 weeks to deliver my DVD. [10:53] -MCVamp- fastest DL ever for me was Jay and Silent Bob in 2 hours. I was amazed [10:53] -BladeRunnerUnit- moriarty, have you not already got the skill to see the quality of a disney movie by the poster alone? [10:53] -Moriarty- Because I am sick and fucking tired of waiting for Disney to stop boning American Miyazaki fans. [10:53] -Moriarty- I can't wait.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:29:35 PM CDT

    Fuck em

    by meta4

    Thanks for banning my last 3 posts AintItCorporateNews

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:29:41 PM CDT

    The Spirit is a good movie

    by strokerx

    parts of it were GENIUS.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:30:53 PM CDT

    Godzilla kicked ass compared to this.

    by fanboy71

    One tends to question Harry's credibility due to the volume of gifts and gratuities he receives from both studios and filmmakers. Not only does he admit it, he begs for it! The only words in a story title that will turn me off faster than "Harry's Adventure In..." would be "WAAAH! ME WANT PWESANTS!!!" Damn, son. Show some dignity. Let's reviews some of the "known" items on this shopping list of shame:

    * Paid trip to New York for premiere of "Godzilla" at Madison Square Garden.

    * Paid trip to Los Angeles for premiere of "Detroit Rock City" where band KISS performed.

    * Paid trip to premiere of "Green Mile".

    * A bit part given to Harry in "The Faculty", while friends got to be extras. Premiere was in Austin and everyone got to attend.

    * Dreamworks provided an exclusive, advanced screening of "Gladiator" for AICN in San Francisco.

    * Provided set tour of "Armageddon" in Houston. Paid trip to premiere in Florida.

    * Paid trip for lacky to Los Angeles, "Robogeek" to set of "Mystery Men".

    * Paid trip to London to set of "The Mummy".

    * Tours of many film sets, including "How the Grinch Stole Christmas", "Monkey Bone", "Fail Safe", etc.

    What's the result of all this? Besides a great deal of frequent flyer points, all of these films that have been released received positive to glowing reviews. While this may be acceptable for films such as "Gladiator", some others, namely "Godzilla", "Detroit Rock City", "Armageddon", and "Mystery Men", have, uh, more than their share of detractors.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:35:26 PM CDT

    "The Academy considered suing Knowles for trademark and copyrigh

    by whinynegativebitch

    "when Knowles posted materials stolen from an ABC staffer's home computer". Dont mind me. Just copying and pasting.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:35:27 PM CDT

    Come on now Meta4

    by em_tee_em

    I haven't banned anything.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:44:22 PM CDT

    WHAT THE HELL?

    by lanalangsucks

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPIRITED AWAY. [10:52] -Moriarty- BUT I AM WITHIN FIVE MINUTES!! [10:52] -Moriarty- IT WILL BE MINE!! [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- You have cable? [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- You lucky man. [10:52] -MCVamp- 25 hours good god. [10:52] -BladeRunnerUnit- moriarty, why would you do such a thing? [10:52] -Moriarty- This is the longest any film has ever taken. [10:52] -DirtyRatBastard- Spirited Away? [10:53] -Neth- Moriarty - don't sweat it. It's taken Coolashop.com 2 weeks to deliver my DVD. [10:53] -MCVamp- fastest DL ever for me was Jay and Silent Bob in 2 hours. I was amazed [10:53] -BladeRunnerUnit- moriarty, have you not already got the skill to see the quality of a disney movie by the poster alone? [10:53] -Moriarty- Because I am sick and fucking tired of waiting for Disney to stop boning American Miyazaki fans. [10:53] -Moriarty- I can't wait.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:45:05 PM CDT

    WHAT THE HELL?

    by lanalangsucks

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPIRITED AWAY. [10:52] -Moriarty- BUT I AM WITHIN FIVE MINUTES!! [10:52] -Moriarty- IT WILL BE MINE!! [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- You have cable? [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- You lucky man. [10:52] -MCVamp- 25 hours good god. [10:52] -BladeRunnerUnit- moriarty, why would you do such a thing? [10:52] -Moriarty- This is the longest any film has ever taken. [10:52] -DirtyRatBastard- Spirited Away? [10:53] -Neth- Moriarty - don't sweat it. It's taken Coolashop.com 2 weeks to deliver my DVD. [10:53] -MCVamp- fastest DL ever for me was Jay and Silent Bob in 2 hours. I was amazed [10:53] -BladeRunnerUnit- moriarty, have you not already got the skill to see the quality of a disney movie by the poster alone? [10:53] -Moriarty- Because I am sick and fucking tired of waiting for Disney to stop boning American Miyazaki fans. [10:53] -Moriarty- I can't wait.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:45:40 PM CDT

    I feel like watching some Disney...

    by whinynegativebitch

    ...Bootlegs. Harry, hook me up, will ya?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:45:52 PM CDT

    WHAT THE HELL?

    by lanalangsucks

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPIRITED AWAY. [10:52] -Moriarty- BUT I AM WITHIN FIVE MINUTES!! [10:52] -Moriarty- IT WILL BE MINE!! [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- You have cable? [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- You lucky man. [10:52] -MCVamp- 25 hours good god. [10:52] -BladeRunnerUnit- moriarty, why would you do such a thing? [10:52] -Moriarty- This is the longest any film has ever taken. [10:52] -DirtyRatBastard- Spirited Away? [10:53] -Neth- Moriarty - don't sweat it. It's taken Coolashop.com 2 weeks to deliver my DVD. [10:53] -MCVamp- fastest DL ever for me was Jay and Silent Bob in 2 hours. I was amazed [10:53] -BladeRunnerUnit- moriarty, have you not already got the skill to see the quality of a disney movie by the poster alone? [10:53] -Moriarty- Because I am sick and fucking tired of waiting for Disney to stop boning American Miyazaki fans. [10:53] -Moriarty- I can't wait.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:49:27 PM CDT

    Poor Unluckytourist

    by whinynegativebitch

    I remember when Moriarty banned him for making a joke about Hounddog.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:49:59 PM CDT

    Re: Nuke the fridge

    by iambrucewillis

    Hell, that post reminds me of jack in the Shining. Any of you dip-shits see that movie? Who is this wolverine anyway? Kinda reminds me of michael london in that old werewolf picture. Its all friggin remakes now.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:50:15 PM CDT

    deadpool's sword blades...

    by fanboy71

    would have been sticking out the backs of his fucking elbows. There's a reason Wolverines claws can only be as long as his forearms dipshits. Adamantium Memory erasing bullets = Superman's memory erasing lips. And, Wolverine would have two holes in the front of his adamantium skull for the rest of his life. Good thing the cop that shot him in the head in X2 didn't breach one of those holes and erase his fucking memory. I need to go compare where the holes were. DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME OR MONEY.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:54:23 PM CDT

    the film threat article

    by reaganjn

    very delish old but very telling

    http://www.filmthreat.com/index.php?section=features&Id=186

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:54:52 PM CDT

    SAL BANDO

    by the insneider

    Step right up, I'll kick your ass too, pal!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:56:03 PM CDT

    From Collider.com

    by fanboy71

    Nikki Finke is reporting that FoxNews has fired Roger Friedman as a freelancer.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 10:56:16 PM CDT

    OMG Time Magazine put NUKE THE FRIDGE it on their cover!

    by lanalangsucks

    Look here http://www.time.com/time/specials/2008/top10/article/0,30583,1855948_1864100_1864105,00.html

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:03:46 PM CDT

    Nuke The Fridge...

    by whinynegativebitch

    ...Made Times top ten list of buzzwords. It must irk moriarty that juvenile wailings of Talkbackers are more notable than anything he ever has, or ever will write.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:05:09 PM CDT

    My "source" is...

    by whinynegativebitch

    ...Pirate bay. And as long as no monetary loss can be proven (which it can't, because I wouldn't pay for Wolverine if you PAID me) I don't feel the need to justify myself. In your face, do gooders.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:06:03 PM CDT

    CALL ME AN ASS-KISSER BUT I LOVE HARRY AND DREW

    by chaimbensexyback

    I fail to see why you guys take them so seriously. I guess it depends on how you view AICN. Since I only come here primarily for the talkbacks, I couldn't care less about hypocrisy - real or alleged - on the part of this site's principals. The fact that they give you guys carte blanche to bitch about them, and getting posts deleted only when you cross a line that's a mile thick, earns them more respect than any other site on the Net.

    So bitch away, it's rather amusing, I just want to show Harry, Beaks and Drew my support. Just know there are more important things to get impassioned about.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:08:50 PM CDT

    Chaim

    by reaganjn

    Need a towel? Got some moriartys jizz in your hair and some of harrys whopper on your back.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:09:10 PM CDT

    NUKE THE FRIDGE began in a TB. By us.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ......the most inventive writers on this fucking site. Deny it all you want.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:11:11 PM CDT

    Yeah...

    by whinynegativebitch

    ...Moriarty and Harry are kind of like Jesus and Ghandi in that respect, Chaim. Shame they couldn't try being either a: Talented and/or professional or b: less hypocritical douchebags. B refers to one of the two aforementioned people. And its not Harry.

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    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:15:48 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:15:49 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:15:50 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:15:51 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:15:51 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:15:51 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:15:51 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:15:51 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:15:51 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:15:57 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:08 PM CDT

    Nice to see some consistency from Fox

    by bravogolfhotel

    Completely aside from that, firing Roger Friedman is a blow for quality entertainment journalism. He was like the real-world equivalent of THE ONION's Jackie Harvey.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:37 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:38 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

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    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:40 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:40 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:40 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:40 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:40 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:40 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:41 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:41 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:41 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:42 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:42 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:42 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:43 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:43 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:43 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:43 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:44 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:44 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:49 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:49 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:49 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:49 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:49 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:49 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:16:49 PM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:17:25 PM CDT

    Please Ban Me..Knowles you fat fuck.

    by nobody_touches_buddy_revell

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:22:42 PM CDT

    THAT'S RIGHT REAGAN, I HAVE MORI'S JIZZ IN MY HAIR

    by chaimbensexyback

    Way to go, you anti-Semitic Nazi scumbag!!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:23:26 PM CDT

    lanalangsucks...

    by em_tee_em

    ...and Nobody_Touches_Buddy_Revell -I respect exposing hypocrisy as much as the next guy, but you're just hurting us, your fellow talk backers (aka the subhuman masses to the editors), when you do things like that.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:23:37 PM CDT

    Oh he will ban you.

    by reaganjn

    As soon as he awakens from his nearly coma inducing three triple whopper feeding binge. He will roll over soon enough. How did that surgery go fatfuck?

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:29:02 PM CDT

    And by hurting

    by em_tee_em

    I mean that I have to keep scrolling past it. You know how many turns of my scroll wheel it takes, or how fucking lazy I am? I didn't mean, like, our "reputation" or any shit like that.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:32:21 PM CDT

    FRIEDMAN FIRED!

    by brndnlpz

    Breaking: http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/exclusive-fox-news-fires-showbiz-columnist-for-encouraging-piracy/

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:33:42 PM CDT

    Legit question for Mori or Harry

    by mjbok1

    Let's say there is a Japanese film that is acquired by an American company. The American company only releases a "edited" version on DVD. Since they are the copyright holders, would it be okay to download the original version because it isn't available in it's original form? Also, would importing a R4 DVD also be wrong because you aren't paying the copyright holder in the US? Legit questions. Just wondering what you would think about those two scenarios.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:35:25 PM CDT

    FRIEDMAN'S FIRING IS A FOX PLOY

    by chaimbensexyback

    Mark my words - he will be back on the payroll once Wolverine is just a memory - meaning 2 weeks. That's the Fox way.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:41:20 PM CDT

    I Love It, They Fired Friedman A Deflection...And...

    by media messiah

    ...he'll play the fall guy while receiving hush payments for this elaborate inside leak of Wolverine as authorized by Fox execs, including Friedman's review of the film. It only gets better everyday!This is one big fat publicity stunt created by Fox!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:42:22 PM CDT

    FRIEDMAN GOT FIRED?

    by balzacs_ballsac

    McWeeny if your bullshite had ANYTHING to do with that guy getting sacked whatsoever, you are a bad person and I hope you understand that. You're a hypocrite and heartless scumbag. This had nothing to do with you but you had to put your fat mouth in there just to suck your own dick, right? Wanker. There is a recession on you twat. You better hope he doesn't have a family to take care of as you may have just have made sure that he never gets a job again just for doing the same shit you've done. Nice one, prick. You're a REAL lowlife and I hope your bosses at SHITFIX realize just what damage you are doing to them and the shitstorm backlash against their site you have caused them and they sack YOUR bloated ass you fuck. Do you feel better now that you've helped a man lose his livelihood over a positive review? What? Are you hoping they'll give you his job now to you cocksucker? Just fucking kill yourself you cunt. Don't raise another version of you to poison this world. Your poor kid has to have YOU as a father. That sucks.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:42:47 PM CDT

    I Love It, They Fired Friedman As A Deflection...And...

    by media messiah

    ...he'll play the fall guy while receiving hush payments for this elaborate inside leak of Wolverine as authorized by Fox execs, including Friedman's review of the film. It only gets better everyday!This is one big fat publicity stunt created by Fox!!!

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:49:03 PM CDT

    Fuck this biased corporate news site.

    by pyrrhotism

    I've found another place to get legitimate movie news and it sure as hell isn't moriarty's site.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 04, 2009 11:55:37 PM CDT

    ElGordo

    by berserkrl

    "he should be fired for engaing in a criminal activity" -- So anyone who breaks the law should be fired? regardless of whether the law is just or unjust? Good thing Thoreau and Martin Luther King weren't working for you.

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  • Apr 04, 2009 11:58:54 PM CDT

    Is it possible...

    by darth cuddles

    to just destroy this site and start again from scratch? Thanks all, for confirming to me that the human race has no future.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:01:01 AM CDT

    Wow

    by magnum opus

    I thought my 6th graders were bad, but the knucklefucks on this site make them look like a bastion of maturity. It shouldn't come as a shock that most TB'ers here are losers, but, wow...

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:01:58 AM CDT

    ROGER FRIEDMAN = MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.

    by chaimbensexyback

    Now I've seen everything.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:07:36 AM CDT

    For epic lulz

    by pyrrhotism

    read the reviews on amazon for harry's book.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:10:00 AM CDT

    McWeeny's self-fellatio on SHITFIX

    by balzacs_ballsac

    Anybody read his pat on the back piece he wrote to himself over there about Friedman getting sacked? His hubris and hypocrisy knows no bounds. He points the finger at Friedman without mentioning ONCE that he has downloaded movies and reviewed them himself. Un-fucking-believable. And when it comes to acknowledging that Friedman lost his job he's just like "oh, well." You're a lowlife dork, McWeeny. And you will never get revenge on the world for your parents giving you the name "McWeeny" resulting in your countless beatings and humiliations in school. Congrats, shithead you helped get somebody fired for doing EXACTLY what you have done in the past. How can you look at yourself in the mirror, I mean despite the fact that you are utterly repulsive physically, how can you look at yourself in the mirror after helped getting a man sacked during a recession? Karma's a bitch, you bloated scumbag, karma's a bitch. And oh by the way, there is a grand total of 8 responses in his talkback over there with his article. And you wonder why he has to troll here and drop his lame ass site's name in every post? Pathetic. Simply pathetic.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:10:40 AM CDT

    DREW McWEENY = TIM GEITHNER

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:11:17 AM CDT

    FRIEDMAN HAD A FAMILY!!

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:13:58 AM CDT

    Drew helped get the dude fired. Pass the story on.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Tell everyone you know that may have a chance of visiting his corporate cesspool of a site just what a fucking prick he is. YOU DO NOT DEMAND PEOPLE BE FIRED WHEN IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU.....CUNT. And the fact that you're in "The Industry" doesn't count. You do script coverage, menial rewrites of pilots that never get made, and an occasional rip off of The Ninth Gate. FUCK OFF.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:15:07 AM CDT

    WHAT'S FRIEDMAN GONNA EAT NOW?!?!?!

    by chaimbensexyback

    Ron Wells doesn't GIVE burgers away, you know!!! Damn you McWeenie!!!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:15:34 AM CDT

    ChaimBenSexyback

    by berserkrl

    I didn't say Friedman was analogous to (let alone equal to) MLK. I was offering an argument by counterexample (to the thesis that lawbreaking is always grounds for firing), not an argument by analogy. [P.S. - Why do people always read arguments by counterexample as arguments by analogy? My Students invariably do that; it drives me crazy.]

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:15:43 AM CDT

    Dear BALZACS_BALLSAC

    by pyrrhotism

    is this like,your first time here?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:16:44 AM CDT

    I did wish Mori well

    by optimuscrime

    When he left, I had nothing negative to say about McWeeny. I wished him well and thanked him in TB for his contributions to this site. I now have nothing but contempt for him, and I hope that he realizes that the only traffic he gets on his hitfix site is a direct result of the time he has spent here. Now that he has pissed everyone off I'm betting that he gets much less traffic. Have fun, asshole.Also, Buddy Revell needs to not spam one of the top 5 talkbacks in history with his bullshit.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:18:01 AM CDT

    how do you fire a freelance?

    by themasterofnonsense

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:23:18 AM CDT

    If I begin consistently agreeing with DGDB...

    by kief_ledger

    does that make me as batshit crazy as he is???

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:23:20 AM CDT

    HARRY SHOULD RESIGN FOR AOTC BOOTLEG !!!!!!!!

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:23:21 AM CDT

    HARRY SHOULD RESIGN FOR AOTC BOOTLEG !!!!!!!!

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:27:10 AM CDT

    BERZERKL

    by chaimbensexyback

    Your students are challenging you, and you will be a better teacher for it.

    And Roger Friedman's firing will lead him to richer offerings and brighter horizons. Either that or he shoots up Fox's offices. There's been a lot of that going around the country.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:27:16 AM CDT

    Kief_Ledger -- no but it puts hair on your chest.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:27:59 AM CDT

    KIEF - EITHER YOU AGREE WITH DGDB,OR YOU DRINK HIS PISS

    by chaimbensexyback

    It's your choice.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:29:12 AM CDT

    COCKSUCKERS FUCKING BANNED ME!!!

    by creepythinmanvstheworld

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:31:01 AM CDT

    I love it!

    by themasterofnonsense

    This site has totally deteriorated into total gossipy trash! AICN: The Jerry Springer of film fan sites.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:31:30 AM CDT

    HAPPY THAT FREIDMAN GOT FIRED YOU MOTHERFUCKERS???

    by creepythinmanvstheworld

    You know, I think Friedman is a fucking douche, I hate Fox and I LOATHE Rupert Murdoch but Knowles and McWeeny are without a doubt the biggest fucking hypocrites in existence. This entire site was built on leaks and you two FUCKING LIARS have downloaded every print that’s been leaked over the last decade and posted about it on this fucking website so don’t even try to act like you haven’t you cunts. Who the fuck do you think you’re talking to you condescending dickless asswipes? Knowles is an idiot man child who screamed about seeing an illegally obtained copy of AOTC like a retarded child running around the playground showing off his new padded crash helmet and his stance on Wolverine/Friedman is beyond a fucking joke since we all know Knowles is a corpulent mongoloid who would suck the Elephant Man’s cock if it was covered in chocolate. As for McWeeny, what more can be said about this hypocritical, pretentious, condescending mixture of self loathing, lard and faggotry? You are a two faced fuckstick and I blame Quentin Tarantino for validating every single one of you obnoxious video store film scholars who think that your rental history makes you a fucking expert on cinema. It must fucking burn every hair off your chinny chin chin that while QT and Kevin Smith have made very respectable careers for themselves, you’re reduced to felching Mick Garris because instead of actually trying to be a writer, you’ve spent over a decade slinging shit at and banning Talkbackers from your little pedestal while wagging your finger at the unwashed masses because we aren’t craven pious whores like you who pump the air like that fucking NUMA NUMA tard because you’ve had three TV scripts produced for a show created by another fucking hack who blew everyone he came into contact with back when he was working for Fangoria back in the 80’s. Either you two fatshitfucks are geeks or journalists. You can’t have it both ways. You either accept and post every single piece of insider info, watch every workprint that you get your hands on and give us reviews that are unbiased or you agree to embargo’s, accept free premiere tickets and all the freebies you can while sucking corporate cock. FUCK YOU, EAT SHIT AND DIE!!!

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:31:40 AM CDT

    CREEPYTHIN

    by chaimbensexyback

    Your posts are still here. You're not banned. Are you batshit crazy?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:31:42 AM CDT

    DREW. That was pathetic of you to come here today.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Be a man and admit you pop up on AICN for no reason other than to desperately drag readers over to your new corporate cesspool. FUCK THAT. AND FUCK YOU. You're not the hero of the day. You're fucking despise. You call yourself a screenwriter. Show us some fucking proof. You're nothing more than an opportunist willing to hurt others to get where you wanna be. Perfect Hollywood material. I'm surprised you haven't done better.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:33:34 AM CDT

    CREEPY

    by chaimbensexyback

    You are one fucking fast typist.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:34:19 AM CDT

    ChaimBenSexyback, THEN WHY COULDN'T I LOG IN???

    by creepythinmanvstheworld

    No, this is a-typical AICN faggotry!!!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:34:28 AM CDT

    CreepyThinManVsTheWorld....I don't know who the fuck you are.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    But that last post was pure brilliance. You are far uglier and meaner than I can ever be. And I love you for it. Keep posting motherfucker.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:34:54 AM CDT

    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPI

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:36:01 AM CDT

    Un-FUCKING-Professional!

    by conspiracy

    So basically Drew is saying.."I was slapped down for being a pirate and a snoop...But look..ooooh...that guy did it too...if you are gonna bitch slap me...fire him too! fire him! fire him! fire him!"Drew...you'd never make it in the "Tomato business". When you grow tomato's and get van'ed by the narcs...you don't roll on your brothers/sisters just to take the sting outta your own bust and blatantly try to brown nose the man to get your own sentence reduced. Un Fucking Professional Mori...really fucking amateur...definitely not a stand up guy. Worse..it is for nothing...this blatant brownosery still isn't gonna get your name outta the studio black book.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:36:30 AM CDT

    ChaimBenSexyback, I ONLY TYPE WITH TWO FINGERS....

    by creepythinmanvstheworld

    The other 8 I use to stroke my cock while bringing the hate down!!!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:37:07 AM CDT

    MORIARTY'S SPAM EMAIL!!

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Dear Friend,

    Believe me when I say I don’t use the word “friend” lightly. The last 12 years have been an incredible ride for me as Ain’t It News columnist and editor, “Moriarty,” and if you’re reading this, then chances are you played some part in this ongoing adventure. What you may or may not be aware of is that I have a new online home, HitFix.com, and I would love to invite you to stop by and check out the new digs. I think you’ll like what you see.

    I was invited onboard as film editor by the site’s co-founders, Greg Ellwood and Jen Sargent, and they offered me a home for my brand new blog, Motion/Captured. This isn’t just a movie site, though… in addition to my blog, Ellwood is running an Awards Season blog, and considering his experience actually participating in Oscar campaigns while working for studios as well as helping launch The Envelope for the Los Angeles Times, he seems to bring a very particular insight to one of the most intense periods of year for this industry. Dan Fienberg, a sharp, acerbic film and television columnist from Zap2It.com, has joined us as the TV Editor, and he’s got his own blog up and running now, The Fien Print. Our final blogger/editor joins us on the music side of things, and Melinda Newman’s decade-plus as the West Coast Bureau Chief of Billboard makes her uniquely qualified to offer a perspective on the constantly-evolving recording industry, both as a fan and as a professional.

    And the entire site is built around our “killer app,” the HitFix Forecast, an interactive way to keep track of all your personal entertainment wants or needs. You really need to see it for yourself, though, and I have a feeling if you give it a try, you’ll quickly find that it’s an important part of your entertainment lifestyle.

    Look, I had an amazing run at Ain’t It Cool, and I’m lucky to have found a family of film fans as passionate as the guys in Austin. There will be some more “Moriarty” pieces on that site this year, but as far as my daily online life, where I’m reviewing new films and DVDs and attending events and doing interviews… that’s HitFix now. And it’s exciting knowing that Motion/Captured is an expression of one voice… mine. It gives me a chance to help build an online film fan community of my own, and in this first month we’ve been online, I’ve already felt an exceptional outpouring of interest and enthusiasm from Ain’t It Cool readers as well as new readers who have just discovered me here. We’re a month in, and already we’ve shattered all of our own traffic expectations, especially considering we’re still in beta.

    All that’s changing, though, and now’s the perfect time for you to join us and check out exactly what we’re doing. I’ve already broken exclusive stories like Lloyd Levin’s open letter about the “Watchmen” lawsuit or early images from the Matthew Vaughn film “Kick-Ass,” and we’ve had Melinda Newman breaking exclusives about Springsteen and U2, while Dan Fienberg broke stories almost non-stop during this time at the TCAs in early January. Right now, we’re wrapping up our team coverage of Sundance while launching the homestretch Oscar coverage, so you can see exactly why I say this is the moment to check us out and see what we’re capable of.

    Here’s hoping HitFix becomes a part of your daily reading rotation, a habit. Because when you want your entertaintment fix, we want you to think of us.

    Thanks for you kind attention, and I’d love to hear what you think.

    Drew McWeeny

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:37:13 AM CDT

    A man with a family was fired today ....

    by thereal_jasonnicholl

    and now his kids go hungry. Way to go Harry and Drew. The only way you can ever gain back any amount of respect will be if you ban McWeeney and Resign from AICN.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:37:33 AM CDT

    no subject

    by themasterofnonsense


    We came back from the SXSW film fest this year with a good buzz on after two weeks of hard beer quaffing and viewing very many films that didn’t suck. We were inspired to do something big, my compadres and I, so we decided to launch the mother of all critical missiles at quote-whore extraordinaire, Earl Dittman. That went well, but strangely it wasn’t enough to fill the hole that needed filling. A feeling in the back of our minds suggested there was still work to do - still someone out there that needed our attention. Then it dawned on us - Harry Knowles needed a beatdown. We’d all seen Knowles at SXSW, motoring around in his laboring wheelchair, occasionally struggling with crutches, sweating profusely and smelling like a mixture or “urine and ass” (as Jim The Movie Freek so perfectly described it). Assorted morons at the fest were overheard geeking out about their contact with Knowles (“I got my photo taken with Harry!”), while others pointed and laughed and held their noses (seriously, he fully reeked). If you’ve only a minor knowledge of the world of online film criticism you know who Harry Knowles is and why he has such a bad rep, but what caused us to all look at each other and pronounce that it was time to crucify Knowles once and for all? Quite simply, we’d just had enough of the lies.

    Aside from the easy physical jibes (Knowles is beyond obese, and seemingly hasn’t ever shaved his ginger beard or cut his stringy, sweaty, disgusting hair), Knowles has been caught with his pants down so many times it’s a wonder he bothers pulling them back up. He started out his life as an online geek critic back in 1996, when he had a little tiff with Coming Attractions’ Patrick Sauriol over a gossip-credit Harry claimed was due him. Knowles set up the Aint-It-Cool-News website which spurted forth every piece of gossip he could find about upcoming movies, from the color of Superman’s booties to the fourth page of the first draft of a Batman script.

    And the people did come. They came in great numbers. They came in such numbers that the studios started seeing value in seeding Knowles website with information for the geek crowd. Then they found that they could just as easily buy Knowles’ favor by flying him to screenings. Then he sold his soul (and credibility) by continually not only taking these favors, but even publicly asking for them.

    To be honest, this hasn’t been an easy piece to write, mostly because the quintessential Knowles beatdown has already been delivered by Film Threat’s Ron Wells (http://www.filmthreat.com). I have to hand it to Chris Gore and Ron Wells at FT – they’ve slammed Knowles in ways that he hasn’t been able to defend, and they’ve done it continually, without mercy, and with astonishing accuracy. Here’s a rundown of what we’ve managed to find out about Hairy Harry’s dark past – both from Film Threat's reporting and other sources - and just like Harry himself, it’s not pretty:

    1. NEPOTISM - While film critics are often tempted by the dark side with studio junkets and freebies, it's a rare thing that an actual critic would turn up at the junket, and even rarer when they’d allow themselves to be cast in a film they’re going to review - in glowing terms. It's just way too unethical to even contemplate such behavior. Harry Knowles, on the other hand, not only accepted a cameo in Robert Rodriguez's The Faculty, he then claimed the movie was sheer genius, for months before any critic had a chance to take a look at the film.

    Knowles says that nothing he's done is wrong because he's not a 'reviewer', he's a geek just sharing info with other geeks. However he wants to label it, selling your opinion for favors is still selling out. According to Ron Wells, a tiny chunk of Harry's favor list goes as follows:

    * All expenses trip to New York for premiere of Godzilla at Madison Square Garden.
    * Paid trip to LA for the premiere of Detroit Rock City where KISS performed.
    * Paid trip to premiere of Green Mile.
    * The bit part given to Harry in The Faculty... did I forget to mention that Harry's friends were given jobs as extras? And that the premiere was held in Harry's hometown of Austin? And that everyone involved was invited to attend?
    * Dreamworks provided an exclusive, advanced screening of "Gladiator" for Harry in San Francisco. An EXCLUSIVE screening, mind you. Even Roger Ebert watches the flicks he reviews with other journalists in attendance, but Harry gets an all-expenses paid trip and a private screening.
    * Provided a set tour of Armageddon in Houston. Paid trip to premiere in Florida. Harry later stated in his review that he wept at the film's conclusion. Good grief...
    * Paid trip for one of Harry's writers to Los Angeles, to the set of Mystery Men.
    * Paid trip to London to set of The Mummy. LONDON!
    * Tours of many film sets, including How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Monkey Bone, Fail Safe, the list goes on.

    So is that so wrong? Well, yeah, it is. Especially so when every single one of these films bar The Mummy received a review that would be considered either positive or totally freak-out positive. I mean - GODZILLA? A positive review? Come on, even the director doesn't like that movie!

    Actually, Knowles doesn’t like it either… at least not any more. When he first saw it, at a 20,000 seat premier at the MSG, he freaking LOVED it! But then when he got home and it had opened and he found out that the rest of the planet HATED the movie, Harry claimed he’s just been wrapped up in the feeling of the night and duly reversed his earlier review. Maybe it did suck after all, huh? In other words, with his freebie paid for and the movie open, he figured he could try to get back some cred by going with the crowd. Gosh, it's a wonder he can lie straight in bed at night.

    Harry defends himself on his site by saying, "I do not go on junkets. There have been occasions where I have been flown in by a filmmaker to see their film or set." Uh... so what's the difference exactly? Harry continues, "Everytime (sic) I do this, I’m pissed that the site has not achieved a financial status to afford me the ability to fly in on my own via my own expense account. HOWEVER, by this Fall my ad contracts that will sell 100% of all ad space will change this."

    Yeah? Guess again. Those ad contracts never did what he’d have hoped and Harry still accepts the gifts, in fact he even openly asks for them on his site. He calls them “pwesents.”

    Says Patrick Sauriol of Coming Attractions, "[Harry's website] is acting in a public medium, and like it or not, it's considered a form of journalism. Just because AICN chooses to print its reviews or news stories in a different method than traditional media, I still believe that there should exist certain lines that you don't cross. I had debated with Harry in the past over moral boundaries that I think webmasters shouldn't cross, and I would e-mail AICN when I felt something appeared on that site that didn't match up with the story that appeared on CA. I also tried to address the other problems I felt brought down my respect for AICN. Unfortunately, our debates didn't ever seem to resolve any of these issues."

    Now Sauriol and Knowles have had their disputes in the past. A lot of them. In fact, when Knowles’ dad reworded a Coming Attractions release and made it appear as if a CA exclusive had been sent to them first for approval, Sauriol popped a lobe in anger. He sent out an email to other websites asking that they get together and present a set of ethical guidelines for Knowles’ site so as to avoid future problems of that nature and get some credibility in the press. When they put together a draft of those guidelines, Knowles got a copy, posted it on his website (complete with names and email addresses of all those it had been sent to) and turned a deep hole into a WAY deeper hole. Knowles claimed he’d had the info on the CA press release ahead of time and hadn’t published it because he was waiting on confirmation, so presenting someone else’s content as his own was no biggie. He never answered why, if that were true, he’d used CA’s wording and not his own. It’d only be another lie anyway…

    2. WRITING (IF YOU COULD CALL IT THAT) - There's nothing worse than a writer with no writing ability, and Knowles isn't just a terrible writer, he can barely spell past a grade school level. Surely, if you're going to make a living writing on a website, you need to at some point learn to use a spellchecker (or spell). Harry's writing is the kind of stuff that would be littered with red circles if it were handed in by a third-grader at school, and he almost seems proud of the fact.

    In Harry's words, "to me[,] I comment on everything. I am a commentator, an editor and a columnist... albeit one with a peculiar habit of not using spellcheck... not because I can’t operate it, but because I like showing my mistakes. I feel they make me human. I don’t like a computer to do my thinking for me. If I don’t catch the spelling... then it’s my damn fault, and it will reveal me as being the boob that I am.”

    Boob indeed. Needless to say, he had two ghostwriters put together his recent biography book.

    Ron Wells once again put it best when he said, "God knows, I'm as guilty as anyone of writing first-person film reviews and stories. Hell, I'm doing it right now. I, on the other hand, may possess a dim awareness that no one would really give a shit about how I got from the airport to my complimentary hotel to the movie premiere for which the studio flew me in. Oh, and if my name were, say, Drew McWeeny, (AKA Moriarty) formerly of Dave's Laser Disc, and I chose to masquerade under the name of some Sherlock Holmes' nemesis, I might avoid spinning bullshit fantasies about myself for half the review. You should really masturbate on your own time."

    McWeeny duly got Wells’ phone number and made obscene and abusive phone calls to him. Class act, these AICN kids.

    3. FRAUD - But McWeeny’s been in the crapper before through his association with Knowles. In fact, Knowles once did a script review of one of McWeeny’s screenplays where he hyped the thing to the hilt, alongside a truly awesome script, Donnie Darko. Knowles favorably compared the two, but went on to announce that McWeeny’s script, Amusements, was the stuff of legend. Knowles neglected to mention that McWeeny writes a large part of AICN’s content, under the nickname Moriarty, and is one of the Orange Lump’s closest friends. Clearly Harry was fraudulently trying to use his position to help McWeeny sell his script. Who brought this fact to light? Raise your hand, Mr Wells.

    But it gets worse. Such is the sway that Knowles has over his minions, he even had one take jail time for him recently. Oh, I’m sure Harry is still denying he had any involvement in the actions of one of his writers, a guy who called himself ‘Joe Hallenbeck,’ but the reality is that Knowles was intimately involved in the scam Hallenbeck was running that ended up seeing him get 120 days in prison and a $10,000 plus fine. See, Hallenbeck (or Michael Gerhard) was put in touch with Harry’s Disney contacts with a view to getting early screener tapes of unreleased films. Hallenbeck then decided to sell those tapes (for as little as $8 each) on the internet. The FBI came a-calling and Hallenbeck went down. He refused to give up Knowles, but others involved have made the facts clear – Harry knew about it, was in the thick of it and may even have made some dinero out of it. Worse, when asked by Wells about this mess, Knowles claimed to have only a basic knowledge of what happened to Hallenbeck (“"He, um, let's see... if memory serves, Joe had a problem with ... he had sold a videotape that he wasn't supposed to sell, then the MPAA came down with an investigation on him. To be honest, I don't know too much about what happened there.") – liar, liar, diapers on fire!

    These stories are not isolated incidents. Harry Knowles and his writers have taken info from other sites many times in the past without properly crediting them. An early review of Narc on this very website turned up (in reworded form) on AICN a day or so later, credited to Senor McWeeny’s alter ego. Just recently a ‘review’ of X-Men 2 popped up on Harry’s site accredited to White Queen. The reviewer spent a few paragraphs talking about some phantom meeting that had allegedly once taken place in Banff between Harry and White Queen, where he and White Queen’s galpal Jessica had flirted. Then it spent one paragraph talking about scenes that are seen in the trailer. This is Harry’s idea of a scoop these days – inventing a female friend and a scenario in which he’s not a giant ginger Augustus Gloop and can actually maintain the interest of a woman for ten minutes – a woman who saw X-Men 2 before anyone else, yet could only recall scenes we’ve all seen in the advertising of the film. Scoop!

    In fact, the very idea of Knowles' site was taken from Coming Attractions, which was the true original movie rumor fan-site and was once contacted by one of their many readers (a memorabilia trader by the name of Harry Knowles) who claimed he hadn't been credited properly for a piece of gossip. Harry went out and started his own site, and has continually laid claim to being the father of internet movie gossip since.

    3. THE LIES, THE DAMN LIES AND THE ABSOLUTE LIES - Knowles likes to portray an image that, despite his physical sloth-like state, he's still a bit of a ladies man. He liberally peppers his 'reviews' with mentions of sex and women he's flirted with and how he would have scored with this chick if only something hadn't happened. The truth is that Knowles can barely move under his own steam any more. At the SXSW festival in Austin Texas, Knowles was spotted slowly rambling around town in his motorized La-Z-Boy more than a few times, only once actually grabbing a pair of crutches to make his way around the convention center. Sure, being a fatty isn't a crime, but passing yourself off as a ladies man when the people who sat behind you at the Paramount in Austin had to move because of the smell is just wrong. And yes, I witnessed this first hand. Or should I say first nose.

    But the lies go further than simply pretending girls will talk to him, there's always the fabled Oscar scandal of a few years back. Harry claimed he had an early list of the nominees for that year, hacked right off the Oscars.com servers. Harry claimed he’d stumbled across this top secret info, then gave info on how others could do likewise. The truth of the matter was that the info was on the home computer of a cable-modem-connected employee of ABC.com and was merely a list of that person's guesses as to who might be nominated. Not top secret. Not even correct. Harry's defence: "The OSCAR story was a legitimate fuck up due to having a bad technical advisor and feeling time constraints upon the story."

    Time constraints? What time constraints? Harry doesn't have a print deadline. He doesn't have an editor breathing down his neck. Oh, he means the time constraints of putting out an unchecked, illegally obtained, totally fake Oscar exclusive before the actual nominations were announced. Gotcha. Well that makes it completely forgivable, Harry.

    Harry went on to blame one of his minions, a guy who calls himself Robogeek, for the error. Robogeek, in response, said Harry brought the story to him, asked him for some quick fact-checking, then signed off on everything and was responsible for the whole story. The truth? They’re both idiots.

    4. DID I MENTION NEPOTISM? - In Harry's own words, "Aint It Cool News is not a Joe Friday, just the facts maam (sic), news source. I believe in editorializing and presenting my opinion on each and every story I post... Do I have a bias when talking about Carpenter.... Yes. Is it because I have had dinner at his house? NO. It’s because the man fucking made DARK STAR, HALLOWEEN, ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK, STARMAN, THE THING, BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA, THEY LIVE and so on.... Do I like VAMPIRES? Yes, wholeheartedly... and I saw the film and reviewed it far before I had ever even met the man. But... Having met John Carpenter, shared a dinner table.... Having my head cast in his next film, GHOSTS OF MARS.... Does it in one single iota make me pull a punch in saying that I didn’t like IN THE MOUTH OF MADNESS and that I thought that his VILLAGE OF THE DAMNED and ESCAPE FROM L.A. were pieces of pure unquestionable shit? No. So when I read GHOSTS OF MARS, did I like it to make him happy... or did I like it because I felt that the script kicked ass? I liked it because the script kicked ass."

    Need I add... HE TOOK YOU TO DINNER AND THEN CAST YOU IN HIS MOVIE! How on earth can this toad even pretend he's not biased when he's admitting he's had dinner with John Carpenter, was cast in the guy's film and that he's a huge fan from way back? How can he even pretend that not liking three of the guy’s films out of dozens is proof that he’s honest? You can't give an unbiased perspective on a script that you've been cast in!

    But Harry insists he can. Of course, he's never had a bad thing to say about a film he's been cast in, but he insists it could happen. Oy...

    At one point, David Poland announced he was investigating Harry's relationship with Jerry Bruckheimer. Oddly, even after publishing an early positive review of Bruckheimer's Gone In 60 Seconds, when Harry got wind that he was being investigated, he suddenly announced that he "HATED" that "FUCKING MOVIE AND NEARLY WALKED OUT." He also felt at pain to announce that his hatred came despite the fact that "it contained an actor that I know on friendly terms...."

    Clang! Drop another name, Harry!

    5. THE VULGARITY AND VAPIDITY - In his words, "As Editor and Chief of AICN, we will always retain the right to edit and modify original content [IE: content from other peoples' sites] for the following reasons: to clarify, to protect the anonymity of the writer, to cut down on unwanted babbling about insignificant personal details, to remove objectionable terms (words that gaybash or offend) and lastly... I remove spoilers that I feel go too far and will ruin the film. IE... Darth Vader is Luke’s Father, The Girl has a Penis, The Star Is Really Dead, etc...”

    Now, aside from noting that he just gave away that Darth Vader is Luke’s father (ugh), this statement seems to indicate that Harry doesn’t so vulgarity and objects to personal crap littering the content on his site. How then do we treat the following, from his intro to White Queen’s X-Men 2 ‘review’?

    “Hey folks, Harry here with an old friend of mine that I last saw in Banff, years ago. Looks like she's moved to Los Angeles, hopefully the doll will write more often. The Jessica she talks about was just absolutely to KILL for. Sigh... Anyway, the "White Queen" is a consummate tease, she drove guys crazy at the conference, and now... because the minx has seen X2 before the rest of us, she's toying with us again. It just ain't fair! I'll get her back for this... actually, what the hell, she's just communicating her excitement for the film... heh... like we needed to be more excited... MAY... sooooo friggginnnn faarrrrrr awwaaaayyyyyy.... ARGH!!!!”

    What the hell is that if it’s not “unwanted babbling about insignificant personal details”? And how’s this for vulgarity, from Harry’s 2003 Oscars report:

    “Oh man, the Jack Palance and Kirk Douglas moments.... FUCK BENIGNI!!! That fuck had Weinstein BUY HIS AWARD, fucking Ian McKellen completely out of winning for GODS & MONSTERS!!! Fuck that award... the best gown ever was Bjork's crazy Bird Gown! Ewww a control room! Ok, this pre-show sucked all sorts of ass... Well here comes the show!”

    It gets worse… “God, Steve Martin is the best host DUDE - He fucked Mary Poppins... oh hell ERNEST BORGNINE!!! FUCKING A!!!! Uh oh, J LO is here in an outfit that doesn't properly display her naked ass!”

    Yeah, Harry’s a fountain of integrity with stuff like that.

    But what's worse are the spoilers. MovieCityGeek's David Poland said, after seeing the work in progress that is X-Men 2, that there's a huge surprise in the film that the studio is desperately trying not to let out of the bag, for fear of ruining what should be a great shock to the fans. Poland talked of his dilemma over whether or not to ruin that surprise in order to make a name for his site when he said, "How do we decide between running a story that will help put our two-week-old site on the Geek map in a bigger way and doing the 'right' thing… while not feeling like we were kissing anyone's ass? Well, the line is a little more visible now. We’re not running the spoiler. Someone somewhere will. And we’re sure that it will be soon. And you will probably be sorry that you read it. To be honest, I myself am sorry that I know."

    Sure enough, guess who couldn't help but drop a long line of spoilers on X-Men 2 fans? You guessed it - Happy Harry Hard-On and his phantom 'White Queen'.

    6. THE NAME DROPPING – It’s embarrassing. It’s honestly just so embarrassing. Harry doesn’t seem able to talk about a movie without mentioning who he knows that was in it. He can’t talk about a screening without mentioning who he hung out with before, sat next to during and high-fived afterwards. He’s so obsessed with telling everyone that he’s the luckiest guy on the block that he actually talks about the favors the studios buy him!

    “My philosophy [is] that [a] film review doesn't begin and end with the opening and ending titles. There is more to it. What we do and who we are affects the review.” So says Hairy Harry, as an explanation of why every one of his reviews features about eight paragraphs of what he did earlier that day, who he talked to, who he hung out with, which girls gave him 'the look'. The review, if you can call it that, generally consists of how certain scenes made him feel. Forget artistry, Harry wants you to know that he got wood, not that the lighting was excellent.

    Which is truly just another example of the root of Harry Knowles' problem - he's dying. He's been dying since day one. He feels the insults, he hears the complaints, he recognizes the chuckles from people as they pass his chair-scooter, he knows his time on this mortal coil is short and his only real way of defending himself is to put out this image that he's having a blast and getting all this free shit that you’re not. He's seeing the movies you WISH you were seeing! He's getting talked to by HOT women! He knows Carpenter and shared a dinner table with him (are you going to eat that, John?)!

    But the reality is that he’s a parasite. He knows he’s not long for this planet and he’ll never make a movie, so he’s determined to sell out, lie, swindle and brag, brag, brag for every day he has left so he can be as close to those he idolizes as possible. And, most importantly, he doesn’t care what damage he does, or who uses him in the process.

    7. THE GAME THAT’S REALLY BEING PLAYED - This is where we bust our own discoveries out - we’ve spoken to a former studio marketing executive who admitted to having his staff plant copious quantities of information on Harry’s site over the years. When asked if Harry-planting was official policy, our inside source said, “Policy with us or policy with Harry? He knows we’re doing it, but he knows that only we and he know, so he does nothing to prevent it. More info goes to Harry because we want it to, rather than the other way around.”

    Who is this person? Not telling, but unlike Harry, we’ve done our fact-checking and confirmed both the person and the information. We won’t name this person because, frankly, our opinion is that you don’t blame the john for the fact that the prostitute exists; you blame the person who opts to sup of the studio cock and pass it off as a ‘scoop’. Our contact not only claims Harry knows his site is being used in this way, but even admitted to having had private investigators hack Harry’s email account to find out who is leaking stuff without studio approval. In the exec’s words, “We watched for weeks and, for the most part, it was all kids’ stuff. Anything he gets that is truly secret is second or third hand material or reprints of other people's discoveries and the amount of things he’s published that were total fabrications is amazing. We’ve slipped him plenty of bogus info ourselves just to keep him looking goofy. Ultimately, it’s a give and take thing. He gets his presents, but only when we know he can benefit us. And he knows not to bite the hand that feeds.”

    Says our insider, “He’s an arrogant S.O.B. He honestly believes he’s doing something great for the geeks and that the filmmakers have this respect for him, but he also knows he’s bought and sold every day.” He continues, “Harry’s cheaper than a quarter page in the Times, that’s for sure.”

    Our inside source wants anonymity and that’s exactly what we’ll give him, because many insiders who have actually given Harry information on the QT have found themselves out of a job. You’ll never hear Harry mourn them publicly, even the Disney guys that were busted giving tapes to Harry via Joe Hallenbeck (you remember, the guy who sold dubs of those tapes on the internet and got 120 days in the can?). Harry just climbs aboard another plane to LA for whatever the studios want him to hype next and repeats the line, “I’m not a journalist, I’m just a geek, I have my own rules.”

    Which all explains why, after the distributors of A Mighty Wind asked the journalists in the audience at SXSW not to review the film because they would be seeing an unfinished workprint, Harry published two reviews from his “spies.” Apparently, pretending to be one of his readers is a convenient way for Knowles to break the rules when he’s agreed to play by them. And before you say “he’d never do that”… he’s done it alright. It’s how he built his empire.

    We’ll close this little tirade with an excerpt from Harry’s appearance on Turn Ben Stein On where he admits to the nonsensical methods he uses to pretend he has a ‘network of spies’…

    BEN STEIN: Okay, now you started yourself by sending in some fake emails from yourself that you said were some from other people, correct? I mean I have that in an interview with you.

    HARRY KNOWLES: Actually, actually it wasn't, I never sent myself fake emails because I am myself.

    BEN STEIN: You sent the site e-mail.

    HARRY KNOWLES: What I would do is that I would spend all weekend and - ya know - all night doing research on a story. Like say I'd get a tip that - ahh - the James Bond film is filming in Bangkok - umm - I would - ahh - begin scouring the Bangkok newspapers looking for information - umm - I would create spies that were allegedly sending stuff up.

    BEN STEIN: Now do you think that the New York Times does that?

    HARRY KNOWLES: No.

    BEN STEIN: ...or the New Yorker?

    HARRY KNOWLES: No.

    BEN STEIN: ...or The Wall Street Journal?

    HARRY KNOWLES: As a matter of fact...

    BEN STEIN: Then why are you allowed to do it? Why are you allowed to make up reviews that other critic's aren't?

    HARRY KNOWLES: Because I'm in control of my site and I do - umm - what I feel is necessary to be able to help a film that needs the help that it needs. Uhh - 'Gods and Monsters' was a movie that many critics had seen at Sundance but weren't allowed to publish reviews in their newspapers because their newspaper editors wouldn't allow them to write about a film that doesn't have a release date or a distributor in the U.S. because it was non news in their opinion.

    BEN STEIN: Have you ever heard of a site called Film Threat?

    HARRY KNOWLES: Yeah, Chris Gore's site.

    BEN STEIN: Now, he says that you write fictitious reviews, err write reviews of movies written by friends of yours under pseudonyms and say that they're great movies and you never say this was written by my best friend or this was written by a guy who works for me. And you say that this was a great script written by Joe Schmeckles without revealing that he's your best friend.

    HARRY KNOWLES: He was - ahh - specifically referring to a script called 'Amusements' written by a fellow by the name of Drew McWeeny. Ummm - but - uhh - Drew McWeeny - uhh - is a unpublished screenwriter who goes out on pitch meetings all the time.

    BEN STEIN: And you thought you'd help him.

    HARRY KNOWLES: No! I liked his script. I have many friends that write scripts that never see the light of day. I've got, you know, about five friends in Austin that give me scripts all the time and in my hotel room one of my best friends just gave me three of his scripts. If I don't like them you'll never hear about them.

    BEN STEIN: But you, but do you think maybe you owe it to the audience to say, 'by the way this guy is a good friend of mine?'

    HARRY KNOWLES: Ummm...

    BEN STEIN: Alright, you'll think about that.

    Note: For ongoing reportage of how much of a disgrace Aint-It-Cool-News is, check out our messageboard below. We'll keep adding the reports as we see them, and maybe one day the world will be free of this scourge.

    Portions of this article were based on information found in Ron Wells' most excellent series of exposes of Harry Knowles and his cohorts, at http://www.filmthreat.com - we’d advise going there for more on the Orange Lump and congratulate them on forcing us to dig very deep to find any piece of information they hadn’t already come out with. Although Film Threat isn't going as hard on Knowles these days, they're one of the few sites around that actually performs any sort of investigative journalism in the world of film, so respect is owed.

    For the other side of the story, why not take a look at Harry’s Oscars report (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=14798) and judge for yourself whether this guy is a boon to the world of film or an utter disgrace.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:37:41 AM CDT

    CreepyThinManVsTheWorld

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    Can I hire you to write letters to my father-in-law? I would pay top dollar for you to deliver him a world of hurt.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:39:15 AM CDT

    Nuke The Fridge Nuke The Fridge Nuke The Fridge Nuke The Fridge

    by lanalangsucks

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:40:14 AM CDT

    AICN and Shane Hurlbut smell like a mixture or urine and ass.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:40:24 AM CDT

    The thin man returns

    by optimuscrime

    You have indelibly etched your name into the annals of talkback history. No matter how many times you get banned your legend will endure. Excellent work...just excellent.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:42:53 AM CDT

    CreepyThinManVsTheWorld...

    by conspiracy

    YOU Sir/Madame are the H.L Mencken, and the Shakespeare of hate. My God...the pure venom that flows from your fingers makes me fucking weep...knowing I have seen a true master. Direct, succinct, poignant, and humor laden....just fucking brilliant. I swear...the finest flames I have yet read...and I've read a few. A Master.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:43:59 AM CDT

    Mori and Harry come out of this looking like tattle-tales

    by axel fff

    but they talk this "corporate consistency" bullshit talk to try to make themselves look noble. Looks like 99% of us see right through that shit. They're nothing but corporate shills themselves, and want to fuck over the other guy so they can try to get ahead. P.S. I looked at the amazon reviews of Harry's book, and I think he called himself "revolutionary" in it. If so, holy fucking wow wow wow. I mean, what a fucking capitalist revolutionary. He's got his fatass spread wide for the giant Hollywood dick to fuck him like there's no tomorrow as long as they'll keep sending him free DVDs and Blu-rays.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:44:20 AM CDT

    The funny thing is Drew continually insults Ron Wells.....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....with jabs at what a failure he is and how he working at a burger joint, bla bla bla. Okay. Thats fine. But really-- does that make Wells' story any less credible? Harry and Drew like to think so. So just because the guy can't get work doing what he wants to be doing, that means his past stories mean nothing? Riiiiiight. Wells was a damn good writer. Especially when he was sticking his fist up your ass, you dumb fuck. The fact that you're still around doesn't mean you're anymore talented-- it simply means you are able to deep throat more corporate cock. Pass the peach pie. Beeeeeeeeeeyatch.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:48:22 AM CDT

    themasterofnonsense

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    Where is the link to that article?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:48:24 AM CDT

    If only Mori would come back right now....

    by odo19

    this could be the greatest TB ever. I might as well get the popcorn ready anyway.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:48:37 AM CDT

    Didn't Moriarty name his kid something stupid?

    by themasterofnonsense

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:49:44 AM CDT

    Mr. Dickblood

    by themasterofnonsense

    http://efilmcritic.com/feature.php?feature=724

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:50:46 AM CDT

    You know how we truly make this TB a thing of legend?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    http://tinyurl.com/agcqw4

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:52:22 AM CDT

    themasterofnonsense

    by odo19

    His son's name is Toshiro. Or Toshi for short.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:53:25 AM CDT

    Now I want Ron Wells To Come Write for me...

    by thereal_jasonnicholl

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:54:18 AM CDT

    roger is a total scumbag

    by travisbickle1980

    have you ever read his column? he is such a scumbag who writes glowingly about celebs who acknowledge him. he deserves what is coming to him. if i ever met him i would spit in that scumbags face. his columns suck like fox news and i hope to never see his kissy ass fag columns posted again and fuck u to all the people defending him!!!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:55:47 AM CDT

    DGDB

    by optimuscrime

    As prolific and venomous as your output has consistently been, the Thin Man has painted the sistine chapel of hate in this talkback. I wouldn't want to fall victim to your wrath, but if the thin man set his sights on me I'd know that all hope for the future had fled.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:56:37 AM CDT

    eFilmcritic article: the BEST part!

    by themasterofnonsense

    Knowles likes to portray an image that, despite his physical sloth-like state, he's still a bit of a ladies man. He liberally peppers his 'reviews' with mentions of sex and women he's flirted with and how he would have scored with this chick if only something hadn't happened. The truth is that Knowles can barely move under his own steam any more. At the SXSW festival in Austin Texas, Knowles was spotted slowly rambling around town in his motorized La-Z-Boy more than a few times, only once actually grabbing a pair of crutches to make his way around the convention center. Sure, being a fatty isn't a crime, but passing yourself off as a ladies man when the people who sat behind you at the Paramount in Austin had to move because of the smell is just wrong. And yes, I witnessed this first hand. Or should I say first nose.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:56:46 AM CDT

    ROGER THAT

    by chaimbensexyback

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:57:11 AM CDT

    Harry's Studio Funded Lifestyle Falling Apart at the Seams

    by raystevensonwarzone

    Sometimes things are just so painfully obvious. Harry and this site acts shocked by people watching a movie early, its like being shocked by college students binge drinking. This site is a studio whore.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:58:30 AM CDT

    odo19

    by themasterofnonsense

    yeah, yeah....but isn't his middle name like Boba Fett or some shit?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:59:10 AM CDT

    Ron Wells at NukeTheFridge.COM ?

    by lanalangsucks

    Sounds GOOOOOOD!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:59:47 AM CDT

    WHAT IS IT WITH HARRY AND DREW THAT PEOPLE KEEP SNIFFING THEM?

    by chaimbensexyback

    You guys are fucking bizarre, and I hope you don't ride the #6 train.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:59:54 AM CDT

    AICN NEW AND IMPROVED SMELL-O-VISION

    by axel fff

    Apparently Harry actually stinks.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:00:09 AM CDT

    OptimusCrime -- Agreed.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:00:16 AM CDT

    Drew is a total dipshit.

    by professor_monster

    Met his fuck nugget ass in real life and let me tell you something - all his bullshit is only for the screen. He knows to get his fucking mouth shut in front of real people with real fists.


    LET IT ROCK!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:01:19 AM CDT

    IT'S TOSHIRO SARLACC MCWEENY

    by chaimbensexyback

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:01:46 AM CDT

    travisbickle1980 -- no one is defending Roger.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    I don't know a thing about that fucker. I'm opposed to the notion of demanding another human being loses his job just to make a name for yourself. That is fucking BITCH MADE.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:01:56 AM CDT

    We should all go to Moriarty's website & say "Nuke The Fridge" 1

    by lanalangsucks

    He will go CRAZY!!!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:03:02 AM CDT

    BOY, IF I COULD HAVE A BLACK BOX IN REAL LIFE ...

    by chaimbensexyback

    I'd be banning people by the thousands daily!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:03:11 AM CDT

    TOSHIRO GUNDARK MCWEENY

    by themasterofnonsense

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:03:23 AM CDT

    Either everyone at AICN stinks....

    by odo19

    or everyone thats jealous of them is really childish. On that note I wonder what Vern smells like.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:03:35 AM CDT

    ARE YOU STRONG ENOUGHT TO PULL HIS EARS OFF?

    by themasterofnonsense

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:03:59 AM CDT

    That motherfucker patrols the shit out of those boards......

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....I posted random shit before and it was gone in 10 seconds. I shit you not. Several people went in there all pissed off when he sent out his massive spam email and bitched in his comments sections, their posts were deleted within minutes.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:04:36 AM CDT

    I am not JEALOUS!

    by themasterofnonsense

    I weigh 175 LBS and can WALK motherfucker!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:05:43 AM CDT

    ROGER FRIEDMAN HAS KILLED HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY!!!

    by creepythinmanvstheworld

    Apparently he posted a you tube video stating that he blames Ain’t It Cool News for losing his job and because of the state of our economy he decided to kill himself and his family so they wouldn’t have to live with the shame of living in a cardboard box. In the video Friedman stated “Harry Knowles and Drew McWeeny, I hope that you’re happy that I lost my job and now I have to do the honorable thing and take not only my life but also the lives of those I love most. I know that murder is a mortal sin but at least I’m looking out for my loved ones by making that sacrifice so that they may enter the Kingdom of Heaven and live throughout eternity blissfully happy knowing that people like Mr. Knowles and Mr. McWeeny will surly join me in the fiery depths of Hell as demons sodomize the three of us with pitchforks and are forced to suck Satan’s needle covered cock and swallow his magma hot semen till the end of creation”. Reports are still sketchy by it appears that after making the video Mr. Friedman then immolated himself and his family as they were watching Mighty Mouse. R.I.P. Roger Friedman and may Harry Knowles and Drew McWeeny burn in Hell.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:05:59 AM CDT

    Drew. I found the article you denied existed motherfucker.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    http://tinyurl.com/2no3pd

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:06:04 AM CDT

    CREEPYTHINMAN IS THE KIM JONG IL OF TALKBACKERS

    by chaimbensexyback

    and that last post was a Kwangmyongsong-2.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:07:04 AM CDT

    The Moriarty - "Come out to play"

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:07:27 AM CDT

    Mr. Dickblood

    by themasterofnonsense

    actually I think that calls for Harry

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:08:01 AM CDT

    KIM JONG IL = YELLOW VADER

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:08:14 AM CDT

    I IMAGINE VERN SMELLING LIKE A FIELD OF TULIPS

    by chaimbensexyback

    mixed with urine and ass. I like that.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:08:35 AM CDT

    Harry didn't mind bootlegging videos back in the day? SHOCKING!

    by raystevensonwarzone

    filmthreat.com had some very interesting articles about this site and the illicit behavior that has gone on in the past. Everyone should take a look, good stuff.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:10:23 AM CDT

    R.I.P. ROGER FRIEDMAN

    by chaimbensexyback

    I still don't know who the fuck you are, nor do I care, but you have made this one amusing talkback. Thank you Fox zombie.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:10:32 AM CDT

    HITFIX = YOKO'S COOL CUTS

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:11:30 AM CDT

    Hmmmm... I always imagined Vern...

    by odo19

    smelling of Seagals energy drink mixed with clam chowder.....and urine and ass.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:11:54 AM CDT

    Oh, don't even GET ME STARTED on Cool Cuts!

    by themasterofnonsense

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:13:04 AM CDT

    Yoko's Cool Cuts: The final nail in the AICN coffin

    by themasterofnonsense

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:13:11 AM CDT

    Oh and the faint aroma of whatever..

    by odo19

    prisons smell like. It never goes away after all.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:14:45 AM CDT

    This part of that article is fucking sleazy.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    "Harry defends himself on his site by saying, "I do not go on junkets. There have been occasions where I have been flown in by a filmmaker to see their film or set." Uh... so what's the difference exactly? Harry continues, "Everytime (sic) I do this, I’m pissed that the site has not achieved a financial status to afford me the ability to fly in on my own via my own expense account. HOWEVER, by this Fall my ad contracts that will sell 100% of all ad space will change this." Yeah? Guess again. Those ad contracts never did what he’d have hoped and Harry still accepts the gifts, in fact he even openly asks for them on his site. He calls them “pwesents.” Says Patrick Sauriol of Coming Attractions, "[Harry's website] is acting in a public medium, and like it or not, it's considered a form of journalism. Just because AICN chooses to print its reviews or news stories in a different method than traditional media, I still believe that there should exist certain lines that you don't cross. I had debated with Harry in the past over moral boundaries that I think webmasters shouldn't cross, and I would e-mail AICN when I felt something appeared on that site that didn't match up with the story that appeared on CA. I also tried to address the other problems I felt brought down my respect for AICN. Unfortunately, our debates didn't ever seem to resolve any of these issues." Now Sauriol and Knowles have had their disputes in the past. A lot of them. In fact, when Knowles’ dad reworded a Coming Attractions release and made it appear as if a CA exclusive had been sent to them first for approval, Sauriol popped a lobe in anger. He sent out an email to other websites asking that they get together and present a set of ethical guidelines for Knowles’ site so as to avoid future problems of that nature and get some credibility in the press. When they put together a draft of those guidelines, Knowles got a copy, posted it on his website (complete with names and email addresses of all those it had been sent to) and turned a deep hole into a WAY deeper hole. Knowles claimed he’d had the info on the CA press release ahead of time and hadn’t published it because he was waiting on confirmation, so presenting someone else’s content as his own was no biggie. He never answered why, if that were true, he’d used CA’s wording and not his own. It’d only be another lie anyway…"

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:14:55 AM CDT

    I'm watching Spinal Tap on TCM and it reminds me of AICN...

    by axel fff

    if AICN were a band it would have been reduced to playing at amusement parks, second-bill to puppet shows.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:20:07 AM CDT

    Post are being deleted?

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:22:28 AM CDT

    FATSHITFUCK HAS REMOVED MY POSTS!!!CUNTFACE!!!

    by creepythinmanvstheworld

    HAPPY THAT FREIDMAN GOT FIRED YOU MOTHERFUCKERS???

    You know, I think Friedman is a fucking douche, I hate Fox and I LOATHE Rupert Murdoch but Knowles and McWeeny are without a doubt the biggest fucking hypocrites in existence. This entire site was built on leaks and you two FUCKING LIARS have downloaded every print that’s been leaked over the last decade and posted about it on this fucking website so don’t even try to act like you haven’t you cunts. Who the fuck do you think you’re talking to you condescending dickless asswipes? Knowles is an idiot man child who screamed about seeing an illegally obtained copy of AOTC like a retarded child running around the playground showing off his new padded crash helmet and his stance on Wolverine/Friedman is beyond a fucking joke since we all know Knowles is a corpulent mongoloid who would suck the Elephant Man’s cock if it was covered in chocolate. As for McWeeny, what more can be said about this hypocritical, pretentious, condescending mixture of self loathing, lard and faggotry? You are a two faced fuckstick and I blame Quentin Tarantino for validating every single one of you obnoxious video store film scholars who think that your rental history makes you a fucking expert on cinema. It must fucking burn every hair off your chinny chin chin that while QT and Kevin Smith have made very respectable careers for themselves, you’re reduced to felching Mick Garris because instead of actually trying to be a writer, you’ve spent over a decade slinging shit at and banning Talkbackers from your little pedestal while wagging your finger at the unwashed masses because we aren’t craven pious whores like you who pump the air like that fucking NUMA NUMA tard because you’ve had three TV scripts produced for a show created by another fucking hack who blew everyone he came into contact with back when he was working for Fangoria back in the 80’s. Either you two fatshitfucks are geeks or journalists. You can’t have it both ways. You either accept and post every single piece of insider info, watch every workprint that you get your hands on and give us reviews that are unbiased or you agree to embargo’s, accept free premiere tickets and all the freebies you can while sucking corporate cock. FUCK YOU!!!

    ROGER FRIEDMAN HAS KILLED HIMSELF AND HIS FAMILY!!!

    Apparently he posted a you tube video stating that he blames Ain’t It Cool News for losing his job and because of the state of our economy he decided to kill himself and his family so they wouldn’t have to live with the shame of living in a cardboard box. In the video Friedman stated “Harry Knowles and Drew McWeeny, I hope that you’re happy that I lost my job and now I have to do the honorable thing and take not only my life but also the lives of those I love most. I know that murder is a mortal sin but at least I’m looking out for my loved ones by making that sacrifice so that they may enter the Kingdom of Heaven and live throughout eternity blissfully happy knowing that people like Mr. Knowles and Mr. McWeeny will surly join me in the fiery depths of Hell as demons sodomize the three of us with pitchforks and are forced to suck Satan’s needle covered cock and swallow his magma hot semen till the end of creation”. Reports are still sketchy by it appears that after making the video Mr. Friedman then immolated himself and his family as they were watching Mighty Mouse. R.I.P. Roger Friedman and may Harry Knowles and Drew McWeeny burn in Hell.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:23:34 AM CDT

    This is awesome

    by pyrrhotism

    Getting to read all this stuff before people are banned for the truth. Priceless.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:25:52 AM CDT

    REMOVED MY POSTS MY POST TOO?

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:25:53 AM CDT

    REMOVED MY POSTS MY POST TOO?

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:27:32 AM CDT

    REMOVED MY POSTS TOO, THAT IS.

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:28:08 AM CDT

    Who cares it's Fox, the lowest of the low...

    by therealumlaut

    This conversation alone panders to them. Want them to stop? Stop seeing there films.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:31:12 AM CDT

    themasterofnonsense

    by jesiah

    I've tried to keep my comments Gambit-oriented, but damn. I had seen bits and pieces of what was in your untitled comment, but to see all that stuff in one place, wow. A good weekend to you sir, because you have enlightened if not entertained me with your post.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:35:21 AM CDT

    Thin man

    by optimuscrime

    It is obvious why your posts were deleted. Drew is stealing you wit and incorporating your lines into his latest screenplay.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:35:51 AM CDT

    BUT DIDN'T YOU REQUEST FATSHITFUCK TO REMOVE YOUR POSTS?

    by chaimbensexyback

    Or was that Lana? I'm so fucking confused!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:39:27 AM CDT

    I'M DROWNING IN AN OCEAN OF HATE HERE

    by chaimbensexyback

    It's at once exhilarating and terrifying.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:42:46 AM CDT

    R.I.P. ROGER FRIEDMAN

    by chaimbensexyback

    Rest In Pieces!!!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:43:53 AM CDT

    What's Funny....

    by shadowvoyd

    Is that among all the mudslinging, one person actually posted news that the source of all this argument got his ass handed to him. It looked something like this: http://newsinfilm.com/?p=11587. By all means, carry on.

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  • Journalism is about reporting the facts as they exist and working to gain 'access' is a key part of being a journalist. If you aren't watching something for your own amusement but are instead watching it to further the public discourse then you have the responsibility to report about it.'Rights' has nothing to do with it, do you have the 'right' to report on something that you find lying on the street? Do you have the 'right' to report what is handed to you by unnamed sources? Do you have the 'right' to influence people to get you news? Of course you have ALL those rights, SO USE THEM.If you are a real reporter you can even explain how someone goes about doing what you did. Those are all fine as long as they are being done to convey the news to other people.A reporter doing something that is considered 'illegal' or 'improper' doesn't mean that the company he/she works for condones that action. But if the reporter has content that pertains to the issue then that reporter has something. I heard that this guy got fired, but if he had done it correctly he shouldn't have been (assuming we aren't talking about Newscorp). If Fox didn't want this to show up in the press they should have been more careful, but once it is out there it is fair game to be reported on.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:47:58 AM CDT

    Roger Friedman is dead. I hope James Cameron is next.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 05, 2009 1:48:30 AM CDT

    And besides

    by optimuscrime

    Those of us lucky enough to have watched this shit splatter are unlikely to soon forget it. No worries. DGDB, include a similar TB function on aintitbalenews.com and you can reasonably expect to be the new Harry Knowles (minus the corpulence and wheelchair, of course).

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:49:20 AM CDT

    YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE THE PERFECT DAY?

    by chaimbensexyback

    A day spent in a tulip field eating Ron Wells' burgers while reading CreepyThin's posts.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:50:27 AM CDT

    My point a bit more specific

    by cxx

    Current newswire articles mention a few markings in the screener. Stating that xyz company has their logo on that.Are we going to go and have the AP reporter that watch it and found that out and have him/her fired too?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:51:23 AM CDT

    Roger fired man.

    by the dark shite

    Poor fucker. I hate Fox, but at least he was a real journalist. Something to do with having fingers that aren't too fat for the keys.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:52:57 AM CDT

    CreepyThin will eat Ron Wells.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    And projectile shit all over a blank ream of paper in Drew McWeeny's office.

    . Drew will wipe off the hairy bits and hold the shit stained pages high in the air screaming "MY NEXT SCRIPT IS COMPLETE!! GET JOHN CARPENTER ON THE PHONE!"

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:55:59 AM CDT

    OptimusCrime

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    We're working on a TB function of some kind.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:56:26 AM CDT

    HA! nice link Danny!

    by xiphos_2

    That was a good one brother.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:56:37 AM CDT

    ROGER THAT, DGDB

    by chaimbensexyback

  • Apr 05, 2009 2:00:00 AM CDT

    Harry and Moriarty are contributing to the unemployment rate!

    by lanalangsucks

  • Apr 05, 2009 2:05:12 AM CDT

    CXX

    by shadowvoyd

    It's not like posted a journalistic and objective article pertaining to the leak while slipping in that he came across the subject matter in question. Instead, he not only wrote a review of thing for God's sake, but then shot himself in the foot by going on about how much fun it was to obtain the source for his review this way and that he couldn't wait to do it again (citing an example)! That's basically painting a target on your ass and saying "yeah, I've given on professional journalistic objectivity". He didn't even attempt mitigate the circumstances or vaguely cloak his article as something remotely news worthy. He used his job for what amounted something to be found on some personal blog on Myspace. This one, he brought on himself.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:07:36 AM CDT

    ROGER FRIEDMAN: FREEDOM OF PRESS MARTYR OR TOTAL FUCKING IDIOT?

    by chaimbensexyback

    You decide!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:07:47 AM CDT

    He posted.

    by shadowvoyd

    Not like he posted. There an edit button on the way anytime soon?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:08:28 AM CDT

    Woah Woah Woah...Since Is Anything On AICN Journalism?

    by thom85

    In what way does anything on AICN resemble journalism? Because you write an article about a current event? This is a fan site, an extremely popular one, but built, run and viewed by FANS. There's nothing wrong with that, but please don't claim to be journalists.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:08:50 AM CDT

    HEY XIPHOS - BEEN A LONG TIME!

    by chaimbensexyback

    Where are you?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:11:20 AM CDT

    I HAVE CONSULTED THE DEAN AT COLUMBIA'S SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM ON

    by chaimbensexyback

    He told me to get the fuck out of his fucking office.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:12:27 AM CDT

    why not fire and if possible

    by potatino

    charge Roger Friedman for breaking the law. Fire him and take him to court! Telling other people that it is cool and easy to break the law is also poor form/would piss me off enough to send in the lawers, but maybe thats just me. Maybe fox want to send a wishy washy message that it is sometimes ok to break the law because thats what it seems like they are doing to me. Just my opinion.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:17:05 AM CDT

    Light tweaker 2: Revenge of the failing.

    by the dark shite

    It's not enough to attempt to ruin one guy's career, based on bullshit speculation & "insider knowledge"?

    Now they've actually gone ahead & demanded somebody be fired. & why? Because "we got into trouble, so he should too." That's wrong.

    & as for this other site (CA or something) saying they stole his stuff. Well, I remember back when all of that Bale stuff was going on, (Harry's so called insider info, you know the "I know this because I'm in a place where I'm not now but somebody else was & will be" crap).

    I traced most of his words to an article on yahoo news & provided a link to prove it. Lies I tell you! All Liiiiiieeeees.




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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:20:13 AM CDT

    FRIEDMAN IS A TOTAL FUCKING IDIOT. FIND A BETTER MARTYR. PLEASE

    by chaimbensexyback

    Friedman posted, “I did find the whole top 10 [movies in theaters], plus TV shows, commercials, videos, everything, all streaming away. It took really less than seconds to start playing it all right onto my computer. I could have downloaded all of it but really, who has the time or the room? Later tonight I may finally catch up with Paul Rudd in I Love You, Man. It’s so much easier than going out in the rain!”

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:21:45 AM CDT

    How is this any different from...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    http ://www.aintitcool. com/display.cgi?id=11796

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:22:33 AM CDT

    ChaimBenSexyback

    by the dark shite

    He may be an idiot, but at least he's a fucking honest one. AND he can contruct a cohesive sentence, like a proper journalist.

    Or he could. Before he lost his job.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:26:33 AM CDT

    THE ONLY IDIOTIC THING HE DID

    by chaimbensexyback

    was to post that under his real name and blog. Couldn't he have said the same thing, here, as "RUPERTMURDOCHS_BUTTJUICE"?

    Think! For one second!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:28:58 AM CDT

    I love this site!

    by the dark shite

    It's shit.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:30:55 AM CDT

    BSB Where am I?

    by xiphos_2

    What is this Where's Waldo?I can be found at the home of true professionals, Ain't it Bale News and MyMavra.com

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:31:59 AM CDT

    Is it just me or has this article...

    by kirbymanly

    ...been deleted from the main page?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:39:54 AM CDT

    ShadowVoyd

    by cxx

    OK. Well. That's just a horrible idea for a story in general. But providing some details about the movie, what is in the print, etc is perfectly fine. The story is the unauthorized release of the movie, so discussing what was leaked in some detail isn't out of bounds.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:40:51 AM CDT

    Kirbymanly

    by the dark shite

    It's still there for me. For how much longer, it remains to be seen.

    Something tells me this is one of those days when they wish they hadn't included a "More on this topic" button!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:41:38 AM CDT

    Saw the Trek workprint

    by automaticbutt

    Sexier than Harry in lingerie, and easier to follow than Thomas Pynchon! Sure, some effects work is still to be done, Chris Pine talking smack to a tennis ball on a stick, and there was the subplot with Spock's mum, suffering from postpartum depression, caught stealing from a souvenir shop on DS9 in a nudge-wink parallel with Winona Ryder's own life story that will probably be cut, but overall a nice way to spend a couple of hours, three and a half stars. I've never heard of this Friedman fellow, but the whole thing smells to me like a kid snitching on another for pissing on the teacher's desk, not because he thought it was wrong, but because he'd been caught doing it earlier, and simply wanted to even the score. Kind of petty, really.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:47:55 AM CDT

    automaticbutt

    by the dark shite

    That's EXACTLY what this is! "But..but..Friedman was doing it too!"

    Talk about humiliating yourself on an international scale! & there's NO WAY they can say they haven't seen the movie.

    I wish I could stand in front of them & ask them to look me in the eye (I've only got one & it's fucking HUGE) & tell me they haven't seen it.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:59:58 AM CDT

    HARRY'S MOVED THIS THREAD TO HIDE HIS HYPOCRISY

    by creepythinmanvstheworld

    He should have stuffed it under his taint which hasn’t seen air or oxygen since he was three years old and is now a Lovecraftian netherworld of unspeakable horrors!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:01:22 AM CDT

    CreepyThinMan

    by kirbymanly

    I'm stuck at work and dead tired...but that line actually made me piss myself laughing. Thank you for that. :)

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:10:49 AM CDT

    Dear Fox Here's how to fix your Wolverine movie:

    by themanwiththeyellowhat

    1. Silver Fox is Silver Fox and she gets killed for real by Sabretooth. That other stuff makes no sense.
    2. Wolverine DOES NOT VOLUNTEER to get injected with adamantium. This makes him less heroic and less interesting. Have Stryker force him to do this and then have him go hog wild after getting out of the tank and do serious harm to the doctors and miitary personnel there. Wolverine should be freaking terrifying in this scene - pure cornered rabid animal. He should also lose most of his memory while in the tank, retaining only the faces of Stryker and Victor maybe, to focus on getting vengeance on them.
    3. The military guys need to be a lot more conflicted about trying to kill Wolverine upon his escape. They just sank half a billion dollars into making him their super soldier. At least SOMEBODY should be arguing for containment instead of everyone going on about blowing him up and cutting his head off and destroying him utterly.
    4. I'm not sure who Will.I.Am is supposed to be playing, but whoever he is he sure is boring. Might have helped to hire an actual actor for this part. Oh well.
    5. Gambit doesn't really serve any interesting purpose here, but he is surprisingly not annoying. The one picky nit here is that in the fight scene Logan is very busy chasing Sabretooth and has no interest in fighting Gambit until Gambit gives him a smack an runs away whereupon Wolverine starts to chase Gambit instead of Sabretooth. This makes Wolverine look like an easily distracted moron. Change that bit.
    5. Again, Silver Fox is dead so she doesn`t show up in the last act. Logan comes to kill Stryker and has the big fight with Sabretooth. Sabretooth keeps trying to get Wolverine to come back into the fold, telling him how he's a killer and he'll always be a killer blah, blah blah. So when Logan decides not to kill him, he does so because he is deciding not to be a killer. This whole thing should probably be set up in conversations with Silver Fox early on - how Logan constantly has to fight giving in to his animal side. He promises her to be a man or some shit.
    6. After defeating Sabretooth, Wolverine is confronted by Stryker with his silly adamantium bullet gun. Sabretooth gets between them and Stryker shoots him in the head instead. Bam! Sabretooth's memory loss explained. Logan gets all bersrker angry again and Stryker activates Deadpool for the big final fight.
    7. I don't really give a shit about Deadpool so I don't really have a problem with what they did to him here. He can still turn into the wisecracking Deadpool in his own movie. Still, a good idea might have been to dipsense with the swordhands and the optic blasts. Upon defeat he could rip his mouth open and say something snarky right before Wolvie cuts his head off. Those Weapon X people can reconstruct Deadpool for his hilarious solo flick later.

    So there you have it. The Wolverine move fixed! Too bad it's probably too late to do anything about it. Oh well. I'll still go check this out in the theatre opening weekend in the hope that at least some things have already been changed for the better in the final cut. Jackman is a great Wolverine and I'd like to see him in a Wolvie in Japan flick. Preferably with a better writer and a more accomplished action director.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:39:38 AM CDT

    TheManWithTheYellowHat

    by jesiah

    Good points, but you listed 5 twice

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:39:44 AM CDT

    FOX? Hyprocrites? Surely not!

    by beefcaaake!

    This is probably the only time you'll ever get any actual truth of Fox news. Who ever saw that coming?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:42:28 AM CDT

    This is what happened

    by optimuscrime

    Harry just left me a facebook message letting me know that he moved the story after I told him to answer for himself in this talkback. He should've just deleted the entire thing. Why move it if he won't address it?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:06:44 AM CDT

    therealmoriarty...

    by cifra

    ... of course Harry didn't break the law with AOTC. It was crystal water that Lucasfilm sent him the bootleg, looking for early praise. Ehem.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:11:08 AM CDT

    Bjornegar

    by docpazuzu

    I'm moviemack? I guess that makes perfect sense, especially considering that googling my name along with moviemack's produces a series of talkbacks where I can clearly be seen arguing with him.

    Well done.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:23:50 AM CDT

    MAJOR UPDATE - they fired the guy tonight!!!!

    by captainmarkoramius

    Holy crap!!!! Good for you, Fox!!!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:35:55 AM CDT

    Why celebrate...

    by emeraldboy

    someone getting fired from thier job. that is kind of sick.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:41:27 AM CDT

    because...

    by captainmarkoramius

    it was a) the right thing to do; and b) the only thing to do. I don't understand why people don't understand that this is stealing, pure & simple. If you walked into a car dealership this morning and willingly stole a car, then admitted in public to stealing the car (but oh, by the way, you wrote that it's a great car), I still think the dealership would have you arrested. It's the same thing - he admitted stealing something. This isn't a grey area - it's right and wrong. And, don't give me the "well, the movie sucks, so I'm allowed to steal it" bullshit. IT'S STEALING. I would like to see how anyone who justifies this respond if someone came into their workplace and blatantly stole something they had worked hard on. You would be pissed and demand that person be punished. Just because you illegally download in your own home doesn't make it legal/right.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:52:13 AM CDT

    Climbin on Lat, but this is all BULLSHIT

    by redfist

    Beaks, stop being a company man, let the managers at fox do their job and stop screaming for blood. I cant do it why can he, sounds really fuciking lame.
    OOX making excuses about the quality of the film has shifted 2X, at first it was 95% end product, with CGI and few sceens missing not it is 3 months old and the reason for the reshoots....they only saw that as damage control because i the movie is an abortoin, pure and simple, makes X3 look like Hamlet.
    The reviewer is a moron too, much easier to digest then the dark knight...yep, cause I switched my brain into neutal and I still am borded.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:56:02 AM CDT

    I saw we all just go to dailysportspages.com

    by dailysportspages

    My treat :)

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:58:28 AM CDT

    CaptainMarkoRamius....you are a stupid fuck

    by bacci40

    to rejoice in a fall guys demise think he has direct access to the website? think he is allowed to publish anything without his bosses ok? did you even read the review...it was a fucking joke...he was told to post it he should sue the shit out of fox and divulge the real facts behind the leak of the wp and let me tell you what i did....i didnt download the movie, but still watched it in its entirety...how? because it is on multiple sites that link to other sites that have it streaming did i break the law? of course not i hope your boss asks you to do something, then it turns out badly, then he fires you....then i will rejoice....dickmeat

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:00:17 AM CDT

    There is one fallout from all of this...

    by emeraldboy

    movie studios are going to tighten up and there will be a major review of how Movie studios conduct thier business. I went to one of these screenings where you rate the movies. cant remember the name of the movie but Harvey Keitel and rosie perez were in it. I doubt that film ever saw the light of day. They need to tighten up press screenings are abolish them.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:03:57 AM CDT

    redfist

    by captainmarkoramius

    would you judge a half-painted painting? how about judging a band by their rehearsal and mic check? then how can you pass judgement on something the director is still working on? unless you are actually working on the movie, then how could you possibly know what this early cut represents? oh, and the dark knight sucked. it was beautiful to look at, but if you could honestly and succinctly tell me what the plot of that movie is, I will sign over my life savings to you. from the point that the joker kills what's her name, the movie is a mess. Harvey hates Batman why? The people the Joker is holding hostage at the end are who exactly? Batman can't besmirch Harvey at the end for what reason? The cell phone/Batvision thing is what exactly? and I give a shit about these 2 random boats of people because of...? Its a complete nihilistic mess. there is not one character you emotionally invest in or care about at all. no one will admit it on this site because they think anything dark means that its good. Like the watchmen. Dark can still suck. It's ok to admit it.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:05:52 AM CDT

    TheManWithTheYellowHat...still not a better movie

    by bacci40

    and it opens in a month...and in the comics, silver fox does "come back from the dead", because she too has the healing power, but doesnt have that bs, "i touch you and give you hallucinations"

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:08:56 AM CDT

    bacci

    by captainmarkoramius

    ah. dickmeat. profound argument. And, yes, viewing something that is illegally obtained is actually illegal. Funny thing about these laws - they are actually clear. You are making a ridiculous supposition that somehow his boss told him to admit to breaking the law. Lots of other journalists commented on the early cut, but he was the only one stupid enough to admit he downloaded it. You are moronic to think his bosses asked him to do that. Then he would have a big lawsuit. Do you think his bosses are that stupid to open themselves up like that if they were actually culpable. No. You write like someone who either doesn't have a job, or has never been in charge of anything. Again, IT'S STEALING. If I came to your house tomorrow and stole your car and then admitted publicly to doing it, you'd have me arrested. It's just that simple. Trying to avoid this truth is the real problem here. Were you not raised to know that stealing is just wrong???

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:14:14 AM CDT

    CaptainMarkoRamius

    by toonol

    1) It's not stealing, it's copyright infringement. Still illegal, but the laws have nothing at all to do with each other.

    2) Nobody sane is arguing that it's not against the law to download the movie. What they're mostly mad about, it seems to me, is the idea that AICN is complaining about a reporter download it, when AICN has down similar acts over and over again.

    Harry, or whomever, has no more 'right' to read a leaked script than you or I do. Again, the smartest thing AICN could have done would have just been to do a minimum report on the story and move on, without casting moral aspirations.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:15:18 AM CDT

    Tired

    by toonol

    That last post had too many spelling errors. I'm going to bed.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:20:53 AM CDT

    toonol

    by captainmarkoramius

    i don't disagree with you about AICN and the grey area of them posting reviews of early work in the past. Whether its scripts they illegally obtain or early cuts etc, I think its absurd to review works in progress that the filmmakers don't ever intend to be seen in public. That was my analogy earlier to judging a half-painted painting. If a studio/director is going to publicly screen their film, then AICN has every right to publish a review of this.

    That said, this guy at Fox News had to be punished for what he did. He admitted to breaking the law. Fox had no choice but to fire him as doing nothing would have both condoned the action, and make it legally impossible for them to go after others who behaved similarly.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:32:08 AM CDT

    Drew's contempt at our current "generation" is pretty telling.

    by dailysportspages

    That feeling inching slowly up the back of your spine is FEAR.
    The reason you cant comprehend people's proclivity for breaking your sacred wall of intellectual property protection... is that you are afraid of the future.

    The future is fast approaching man, so you best be getting up to speed.
    Thumbing your nose at those of us who "kids" is what every man in your situation has done over the course of history.
    You have become your father Mori.
    This is Elvis's hips gyrating on TV, its Gangsta Rap on the Billboard Top 10, its Punk Rock headbutting disco in the face, its Nirvana slapping Hair Metal well made up face.... its a black man becoming president of the USA.


    You are just the old man afraid of the future now.
    Time has now left you by the wayside.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:46:00 AM CDT

    article hidden = admission of guilt

    by cool_britannia79

    how to make a bad PR situation worse, by ain't it cool.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:27:14 AM CDT

    "If you walked into a car dealership....

    by c legion

    this morning and willingly stole a car"Hehe, I love it when brainwashed divs make these sort of bogus analogies in regards to film piracy.I guess those absurd anti-piracy ads actually DO fool some people. Remarkable.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:30:23 AM CDT

    Capturing the Friedman...

    by geteveryone

    because he is a child-molester.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:46:06 AM CDT

    I walk into your garage...

    by theplant

    and I touch your car and make a duplicate perfect version of it by the magic of bytes, and run away with it. Is it STEALING ? I mean, YOU STILL HAVE YOUR CAR.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:03:56 AM CDT

    I just watched the Avatar workprint!

    by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights

    It's utter shit! Just some people walking left and right with a blue screen behind them. And sometimes they pretend to be running from aliens. It's pathetic. Avatar sucks.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:35:44 AM CDT

    so then...

    by emeraldboy

    the question remains why did roger friedman do what he did or is he being scapegoated.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:58:09 AM CDT

    People need to think outside the box...

    by barrignite

    This guy was set up in a calculated move by Fox to get a high profile positive review into the mix. Nobody is that dumb to admit to downloading a pirate movie and especially THIS pirate movie. Not these days. The way the article is constructed is far too antagonistic and designed to make people take notice. No one is this niave to say that they should check out "I love you, Man" online as to avoid the rain. These companies use the net and its writers to thier own end. This positive review has garnered more attention than a million posts by us geeks and it will be the perfect companion to the leak. "Whats this all about?" people will ask. "Well, this guy put in a review of an illegal copy of Wolverine". "Oh really! Thats crazy, well (and heres the big natural question that will come out of it)what did he say?" And of course, the answer will be "quite positive". End of campaign. Everyone is talking about this and only geeks will know it has problems. The majority of film goers will know only of the positive review advanced word of mouth. The guy will get taken care of and given a job somewhere else with Fox or a link to them somehow.*********************************************************************



    In a similar fashion, I highly suspect that Harry and this carry on about the "illegal" AOTC screening was a move by Lucasfilm to build anticipation and get good word of mouth out early. The source wasnt illegal, it was lucasfilm itself, arranging the whole thing. The set-up is a mouth watering, secret and seemingly dangerous endevour that builds excitement for the film. If the story was "Harry gets a call, is told to come and see the film by Lucas in plush surroundings" it would be much less exciting and wouldn't play to the reputation that this site has earned. We are being played like punks over this from start to finish. Publicists are paid alot of money to manipulate the media and indeed, all of us.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:58:31 AM CDT

    CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    by kwisatzhaderach

    You and me, we're fuckin' done professionally.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:27:02 AM CDT

    Toonol is right

    by cedar_room

    Everybody knows piracy is wrong - some people just do it anyway coz who doesn't like shit for free? The Fox News Douchebag deserves to be fired because he was a Fox employee who bragged about illegal downloading and how easy and convenient it was. What the fuck did he expect??

    The real source of people'a anger on this TB seems to me aimed at the moralising coming from Harry, Mori and Beaks. You can clearly see what Mori said about downloading in his Hulk apology.

    "I have legitimate problems with the implications of online piracy and the attitude of what seems to be an entire generation of people who are growing up with the entrenched belief that "if it's digital, it's free."
    But I was completely wrong in how I wrote about the subject.
    First, it's a personal choice. I have no business telling anyone what decision to make regarding the trafficking of stolen materials. And I wouldn't even if my hands were squeaky clean. Which they aren't.
    At this moment, with me dealing with the people I deal with all day long and all week long, and with my career developing the way it is, I have a particular perspective on the issue of the duplication and distribution of copywritten material. It's my personal perspective. It's not more right than someone else's. It's not more ethical. It's not more moral. It's simply mine.
    When I wrote what I wrote, I spoke down to my readership. And that's absolutely a mistake. The minute you condescend to the person reading your work... whoever they are... you risk alienating them."

    I'll just run that one quote again for you:

    "I have no business telling anyone what decision to make regarding the trafficking of stolen materials"

    so we go from that - to calling people to be fired. For doing the very thing ALL of these guys have done themselves, and the very type of illicit activity this site was built upon. This, along with the Clone Wars embargo farce - has made me realise that the outsider, underground status AICN once held has gone for good. Harry and Mori may be cool with that - but thats not what WE the readers want from this website. Perhaps then, its time to look elsewhere.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:34:15 AM CDT

    FRIEDMAN? A REAL JOURNALIST? AT FOX?

    by chaimbensexyback

    Surely not.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:35:18 AM CDT

    dailysportspages

    by projectedlight

    "This is Elvis's hips gyrating on TV, its Gangsta Rap on the Billboard Top 10, its Punk Rock headbutting disco in the face, its Nirvana slapping Hair Metal well made up face.... its a black man becoming president of the USA. "

    Do you realize what is different about all of your examples from copyright infringement? All of those things offended people's sensibilities, but none actively caused anyone harm. Copyright infringement has hurt a lot of people already and will continue to do so in the future. It's true that it has become so widespread that the studios will be forced to adapt, but that doesn't mean that it's the ethically right thing to do (watching stolen films isn't either, just to be clear). You make the same mistake as the majority of pro-piracy people, and that is playing down the actual effects of the act and refusing to engage with the real hard facts and consequences of it. In dancing around the issue to avoid coming off badly, you weaken your own argument.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:37:15 AM CDT

    And that's why...

    by projectedlight

    ...this is an illegal act and none of those examples were.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:37:27 AM CDT

    by barrignite

    by emeraldboy

    What you say is all true. If you want more examples here are two. Sex and the city and Mamma Mia. When Meryl Streep won her award at the National Film awards. She said her awards were a two fingers to the critics who didnt like the movie. Sex and the city. fox went of its way to get good reviews for that film. Only women saw that movie, so it targeted women. It shortened down its media reviews to three days. before that it was two weeks. Fox kept the negative to a minimum. The girlie mags fawned over it. fox also selected the opening days very carefully as well as its opening cities chosen with women in Mind. London, Paris and Newyork, and milan. These are fashion meccas and are high value shopping destinations. The movie was a box office behemoth despite the fact it was slated by the rest of the media. Oh and remember Fight Club. Filmed against the backs of NewsCorp upon its released Newscorp poured bile on the movie. Murudoch said that they would never make a film that again. rebbit rebbit. Murdochs a frog. rebbit rebbit.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:41:01 AM CDT

    emeraldboy

    by projectedlight

    Sex and the City is not a Fox film.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:55:29 AM CDT

    OMG LOOK WHAT I JUST DOWNLOADED!!!!

    by chaimbensexyback

    I feel so naughty!!!

    http://tinyurl.com/dmkzdr

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:57:44 AM CDT

    FOX SAID THEY WOULD NEVER MAKE ANOTHER REALITY SHOW

    by chaimbensexyback

    after Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire debuted because it was disrespectful and degrading. Look how well that turned out.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:05:52 AM CDT

    CEDAR ROOM - ALLOW ME TO BE MORI'S ADVOCATE

    by chaimbensexyback

    Tell me if I'm wrong (but keep it to yourself), but has Mori (or Harry & Beaks) admonished / punished any of us for pirating? I mean, Beaks' original post did more to lead me and y'all to the workprint than anything else. If that's not helping the process along I don't know what is.

    I think Mori's article at Hitfix was appropriate because Fox was hunting pirates, and one of those pirates turned out to be one of their own. It WOULD be hypocritical if they took no action against Friedman, and Mori was simply pointing out that obvious fact. And not only was Friedman cavalier about pirating, but he was blatant about pirating the content of a competing company. Again, do it if you will, but to be so publicly vocal about it under your real identity ... that was stupid.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:08:08 AM CDT

    of course he removed posts

    by reaganjn

    He rails against censorship but is pretty goddamn good at practicing it.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:10:42 AM CDT

    emeraldboy

    by talkbacker with no name

    rebbit rebbit!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:11:38 AM CDT

    Friedman didn't steal anything

    by axel fff

    Do you think he would have had to pay money to see a Fox movie? Doubt it. So by seeing the movie early exactly what did he steal and from whom? Nothing from nobody.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:21:28 AM CDT

    CEDAR ROOM

    by chaimbensexyback

    I mis-read your post. Just ignore mine.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:21:44 AM CDT

    Do People Not See It?

    by penguinslide

    We have, basically, Fox saying it's okay for people to download illegally...and then they'll turn around and reprimand everyday folk who do it. That's the issue here. It's not even that he reviewed Wolverine. If he just reviewed Wolverine, even based on an illegal copy, I'm pretty confidant Harry & Co. wouldn't be jumping on their soap boxes. It's that he was basically telling people to download movies illegally through the mouth of Fox, itself. It's a case of manning up. It's like when your boss keeps getting on your case for taking too long of a lunch break...then his nephew does it and he let's it slide. "Hey Fox, you keeping belittling people for doing illegal downloading of your movies, now someone associated with you is doing it. You BETTER damn well punish him, too." Do people really think Harry & Co are pissed that he happened to watch a movie illegally? It's that he's speaking under the Fox umbrella saying it's okay and not getting the punishment some would have if the the Fox-supported MPAA decided to sue you for it. Should he be fired? Maybe not. Should the boss publicly chew out his nephew? Probably. Either way Harry & Co., although perhaps a little too riled up over this, are far from the hypocritical beasts of evil you 10th-graders are claiming they are. Calm the F down. Take a nap. Move on.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:33:05 AM CDT

    CHRISTIAN BALE IS TEAMING UP WITH MARK WAHLBERG

    by chaimbensexyback

    It'll be filmed in the dark, professionally. Where's the talkback, Harr?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 05, 2009 9:41:12 AM CDT

    Funniest talkback I can remember...

    by whinynegativebitch

    ...And I've been here far too long. Someone needs to introduce /b/ to Mr. McWeeny.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 05, 2009 9:42:31 AM CDT

    WHERE'S CREEPYTHIN?

    by chaimbensexyback

    I need some venom for my omelette.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:45:57 AM CDT

    This movie, frankly...

    by bobsjohnson

    Blows. I don't need to watch a stolen print to see that. It's all in the trailers. http://digg.com/d1nrMA

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:45:58 AM CDT

    Wait, is this true!?

    by whinynegativebitch

    "McWeeny duly got Wells’ phone number and made obscene and abusive phone calls to him. Class act, these AICN kids.". Thats so awesome.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 05, 2009 9:47:19 AM CDT

    DOES RON WELLS DO BRUNCH?

    by chaimbensexyback

    Or does he only do burgers?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 05, 2009 9:50:30 AM CDT

    DO YOU GUYS GET NUMBERS FOR PEOPLE IN THE NEWS

    by chaimbensexyback

    and then call to harass them? It's fun.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 05, 2009 9:52:05 AM CDT

    Any link with Friedmans review?

    by ominus

    i would appreciate it u know where else i can find and read the review.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:53:35 AM CDT

    MAKE SURE YOU DIAL *67 FIRST

    by chaimbensexyback

    or you'll be talkbacking from Sing Sing.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:54:00 AM CDT

    ChaimBenSexyback

    by whinynegativebitch

  • Apr 05, 2009 9:54:14 AM CDT

    ChaimBenSexyback

    by whinynegativebitch

    I get their numbers and ask for battletoads mostly.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:55:13 AM CDT

    I THINK IT WOULD BE ILLEGAL TO READ THAT REVIEW

    by chaimbensexyback

    now that it's been officially pulled and the author fired. Grey area, at least.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 05, 2009 9:56:19 AM CDT

    BATTLETOADS ...

    by chaimbensexyback

    Fucking brilliant. Thanks Whiny!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:57:31 AM CDT

    When I think of Murdoch..

    by emeraldboy

    I think of a frog. Impersonating Murdoch is easy. I just replace the noise of a frog with the words Rupert rupert. He is as a slimy as a frog. or a toad. One casualty of all this is Hugh jackman. he is an execttive producer on Wolverine. if he had not made that deal with fox he wouldnt have become a power a player and never hosted the oscars.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:20:57 AM CDT

    WHEN I THINK OF MURDOCH ...

    by chaimbensexyback

    I get goosebumps.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:23:41 AM CDT

    Evolution

    by dagls

    Quite the discussion...

    I think everything has evolved since the early internet days - the AICN website, Harry & friends, the internet overall, and the corresponding

    legalities. What was 'acceptable' in the old days simply isn't anymore. Harry has the greatest job in the world - doing something he really

    enjoys. As the years have gone by, he's grown and mature, as we all have. And as times have changed, he's had to change the way he runs the

    site. It's his living, it feeds his family.

    Over the years, Harry has earned the respect of lots of Hollywood folks. They trust him and those contacts/friends are important to him. The

    same goes with Beaks, Moriarty, Quint, and the rest of the guys. They've moved from fanboys to professionals. It happens. And professionals have a different set of rules to follow.

    It's still a great site. IMHO...

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:28:15 AM CDT

    I was a film threat source on those articles years ago.

    by everyonealwaysforgets2009

    Years ago I was a big customer of uber movie pirate Michael Gerhard aka the famous Joe Hallenbeck. and well, basically he burned be for around a hundred bucks and I got really bitter. I stumbled across the original article about the AICN pirate thing on film threat and I sent them some emails. I came home from school one day and both that Ron Wells guy and Chris Gore called me and asked me a shit ton of questions about Hallenbeck. I sent them a copy of hallenbecks horrible horror screenplay he'd written and a super bootleg of a work in progess copy of Mighty Joe Young( which had been heavily reviewed on this site.)

    the only specifics I am aware of is that the Mighty Joe Young tape originally came from a real bastard of a man named Greg Felix that was fucking over both Joe Hallenbeck and the rest of the aint it cool news crew.

    Back in those days, Hallenbeck would send me a new list of movies or screenplays he'd gotten for sale and within a day or two of sending me the list of new movies he had; i'd start reading reviews of the movies or screenplays from everyone involved in AICN even harry and moriarty.

    Face it. We all watch bootlegs and we all read scripts(if we get access). Those guys just cant cop to it anymore cause this site is their rice bowl. And without a rice bowl life aint as sweet.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:28:30 AM CDT

    WOLVERINE AS A RENEWABLE FOOD SOURCE!

    by photoman

    Since he regenerates, we could tie him up and just keep stripping the meat from his legs and ass for a good source of food. He could feed the hungry!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:35:03 AM CDT

    Ace of Wands RE: copyright infringement

    by nohubris

    Here is an example from Slate (Dec 26, 1997):"...A biographer of William Randolph Hearst claimed that Citizen Kane screenwriters Orson Wells and Herman Mankiewicz plagiarized him. The author of a 1941 nonfiction book about swindlers filed copyright-infringement charges against the screenwriter of The Sting in 1973. Look Who's Talking screenwriter/director Amy Heckerling was accused of stealing whole passages of dialogue from a screenplay shown to her three years before her film's release. These cases, like most credible suits brought against the studios, were settled out of court."You can find the entire post here:http://www.slate.com/id/1785/You are not seriously promoting getting rid of copyright so the "lowly" creative talent receive nothing are you? As I stated in the last TB on this, if the big guns are really going to take a postion against piracy, they have to do it at the level of the creative talent and not just show concern when a corporate property like a workprint is "pirated." Right now there is no equality under how piracy is handled.BTW if creative talent decides to give away their work for free ont the internet that is their call. But it should not be taken from them.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:36:18 AM CDT

    Creepythinman makes DGDB look like Willie Nelson

    by kief_ledger

    Sorry, but it's true

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:47:26 AM CDT

    CREEPYTHINMAN MAKES MIDNIGHT MEAT TRAIN

    by chaimbensexyback

    look like an appetizer.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:48:42 AM CDT

    WOLVERINE AS RENEWABLE FOOD SOURCE

    by chaimbensexyback

    Can I have the dick?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:52:59 AM CDT

    Dude's been fired

    by creaturecantina

    According to Deadline Hollywood Daily.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:59:37 AM CDT

    pyrrhotism

    by balzacs_ballsac

    Fuck no, I've been posting here for over ten years. You?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 11:00:17 AM CDT

    pyrrhotism

    by balzacs_ballsac

    Fuck no, I've been posting here for over 10 years. You?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 11:16:01 AM CDT

    Roger Friedman is now Roger Firedman

    by axel fff

    after we bust him out of jail he'll be Roger Freedman.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 11:19:51 AM CDT

    article not removed

    by lobot

    it was moved because it wasn't new news. belive it or not a bunch of flaming trolls not exactly "current"

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  • Apr 05, 2009 11:22:22 AM CDT

    THE MAN WITH THE YELLOW HAT

    by balzacs_ballsac

    Thanks for your post, mate! THAT'S what I come to AICN for. Not for McDickhead and his hypocritical sermons. Well played, sir!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 11:30:25 AM CDT

    in his very last interview...

    by emeraldboy

    dennis potter was interviewed by Lord Bragg on the best ever south bank show. Dying with cancer. Potter sipped on Morphine to help battle the pain of the cancer that eating away at him. Bragg asked potter what he thought of the future of television. Potter then siad the follow thing do you know that I have a special name for my cancer. No said bragg what is it. Rupert replied Potter. Potter had named his cancer after the man rupert murdoch whom potter though had destroyed television in the UK. Dennis potter died two weeks after that interview.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:03:19 PM CDT

    so, which site is everyone moving to?

    by cool_britannia79

    i have no desire to use ain't it corporate drone news anymore.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:09:53 PM CDT

    Onions not bad...

    by whinynegativebitch

    ...But Its a shame they can't just move THESE talkbacks to a good site.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:12:08 PM CDT

    Funny how that other thread disappeared...

    by fanboy71

    Just like Wolvie's memory. What are some other sites that allow talkbacks like this one? I'm ready to quit this one too.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:13:25 PM CDT

    Ace of Wands

    by projectedlight

    I really don't have time to look too hard for someone who I doubt is even open to anything I say (most pro-piracy people aren't) but here's a few things for you.

    http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117970624.html?categoryId=18&cs=1

    http://torrentfreak.com/movie-piracy-cost-61-billion/

    You don't need to be a genius to figure this one out. Lost money equals lost jobs, equals worse for people at any time, let alone the current economic situation. Lost money and jobs means negative flow on effects for the entire economy. Obviously piracy can have positive effects for some, and can even be good for artists (though definitely not always), but it is also bad for a lot of people. It's not 'starving artists vs. evil corporations' as a lot of people portray it. Firstly, corporations and artists often depend on each other to realize their ambitions (eg. greater scale projects and ambitions/increasing sales and raising share prices) and secondly, entertainment corporations are made up of individual, normal people, and employ a lot of people in a lot of industries. Damaging this balance when an alternative is not in place is NOT A GOOD THING for a lot of people. So yes, piracy does, has and will hurt people.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:19:00 PM CDT

    Projectedlight

    by whinynegativebitch

    You do have to be an idiot to believe what your peddling. The correlation between downloads, especially of unfinsihed films or cams, and box office loss not only hasn't been proven, but doesn't even stand up at a cursory glance, when films are making not only more money then ever, but films that have had PERFECT quality downloads not only available long before release, but have been immensely popular, have gone on to become massive hits at the cinema. It's even funnier that you bring this up in relation to Wolverine. A movie in which thousands of U.S. jobs were lost because they production went overseas to use cheap labour. This is like whining that Nike loses money on knock off shirts.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:22:18 PM CDT

    Harry doesn't give a damn about anyon here

    by whitty

    If he did, he'd answer the criticisms. But he doesn't, so he isn't.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:25:39 PM CDT

    whitty

    by whinynegativebitch

    He did answer them. He said that he didn't watch a stolen version of AOTC. Which means he made his whole review up. Or he is a liar.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:31:59 PM CDT

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    by thereal_jasonnicholl

  • Apr 05, 2009 12:34:12 PM CDT

    Disappointed in AICN & Mori

    by exie

    This whole incident reeks of hypocrisy. While I don't think talkbackers needs to bring Mori's wife and kids into it (that shit is wrong and spewing that kind of bile only brings bad shit back at you in life), I can't sit here and tell you that I don't think Mori and the AICN guys are hypocrites right now. Harry can spin his AOTC review any way he wants, but he sat and watched illegally obtained material. It's like saying you're not an accomplice to a crime where someone stole pizza or beer from a store you knew it was obtained that way and you ate and drank it. Harry knew the movie wasn't released yet. He knew it wasn't finished. He knew it shouldn't be premiered in a hotel room. Yet he watched it. Spin that any way you like, but you are not an innocent. You can Woodward and Bernstein yourself all you want, but there's a huge difference between investigative journalism and watching an illegally obtained film and reviewing it. AICN was built on movie scoops and early script reviews. It wasn't built on the charm of Harry and Mori as lovable characters. It was built on the information. AICN had the info we all wanted on projects we were fans or potential fans of. The guys who have profited from this site all have what they have not because of being brilliant writers. They are where they are because they had access to info no one else had and they had a great network of spys willing to supply them with scripts, bootlegs, tips, news, etc. There is no difference between Friedman watching a bootleg he illegally downloaded and Harry watching AOTC. There is no difference between Mori reviewing a script that is in development and owned by a studio and what Friedman did. The fact of the matter is, it's sad and shocking to see these guys here react the way they did. That said, I personally never had a problem with AICN reviewing in development projects whether they be in film or script form and I have no problem with what Friedman did. The true problem is the bloated asscat studio system that allows these kind of breaches. When a studio gets it shit together enough to have an on the lot post production facility that is secure and kept secure, this shit will stop. I don't know why the studios don't realize keeping the whole thing in-house is the way to end this. From the people who make trailers to the editors, effects people etc. They should all be employees of the studio and be contained on the lot. If this kind of incident hurts the bottom line, that kind of security measure needs to be enacted. Still, I'm sad to see Harry and Mori get up in arms over this. I loved this site for the kind of info it presented all of us. To sit there and claim they never rolled like this in the past is just not genuine and frankly offensive to the readers. Bad show guys.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:35:58 PM CDT

    Actually, there is a difference.

    by lenny nero

    The difference is the word "download."

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:52:02 PM CDT

    Harry just added Friedman to the unemployment rate

    by bingcrosbyb

    Thanks a$$hole.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 12:52:43 PM CDT

    the effects company Rising sun pictures..

    by emeraldboy

    This is the story from yahoo from friday the third of april....

    LOS ANGELES - An Australian visual effects company that worked on " X-Men Origins: Wolverine " said Thursday it was not responsible for leaking a full-length work print online.

    The company's name — Rising Sun Pictures — appears in a caption dated March 2 a few minutes into the high-quality leaked copy of the 20th Century Fox superhero movie .

    "As we worked on individual sequences within the film, neither Rising Sun Pictures or its staff members have ever been in possession of a full-length version, so it would have been impossible for the movie to have been leaked from here," Rising Sun Pictures chairman and co-founder Tony Clark said in a statement posted on the company's Web site Thursday.

    The "prequel, which focuses on the beginnings of Hugh Jackman 's clawed Marvel superhero Wolverine , is not scheduled for release until May 1, but the leaked version began appearing online Tuesday evening. Fox said in a statement Wednesday that it had the original file removed, but copies quickly propagated and continue to appear on several file-sharing Web sites.

    According to Rising Sun Pictures' Web site, the visual effects company had been tasked with producing "a number of key effects sequences" in "Wolverine." Rising Sun Pictures is also working on the upcoming " Terminator Salvation " film and had previously created effects for " Watchmen ," "Australia," " Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince " and " Get Smart ."

    Fox vowed Wednesday that the source of the "stolen, incomplete and early version" of the movie would be prosecuted and said the FBI and MPAA are investigating the leak. The studio also insisted that the version of "Wolverine" posted online had been forensically marked and "was without many effects, had missing and unedited scenes and temporary sound and music."

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:13:58 PM CDT

    does nuke the fridge have talkbacks?

    by cool_britannia79

    they look a bit empty dude...

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:14:08 PM CDT

    LMAO

    by batman713

    this site is going down the shithole.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:22:41 PM CDT

    Bersekl

    by elgordo

    "So anyone who breaks the law should be fired? regardless of whether the law is just or unjust?"

    How is firing someone who is illegally downloading and distributing a film made by his parent company unjust? It's pretty clear and that you can't see that makes you pretty damn ignorant.
    And it's amazing that you are comparing this to Martin Luther King. Really? Martin Luther King? Are you fucking serious?
    Some people have their head stuck so far up their self righteous asses that it's amazing to read their justifications for downloading movies.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:26:09 PM CDT

    CaptainMarkoRamius...fuck you

    by bacci40

    how is that for an argument and guess what, downloading a torrent isnt illegal either, which is why governments have been unable to shut down torrent sites and when did you get your law degree that you can state viewing something that was uploaded illegally is also illegal? you know what should be illegal? the entirety of faux news channel, which is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the repug party and its corporate masters...anything that i can do that will help bring down that evil corporation is good for the world...I HATE YOU FUCKING SHEEPLE

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:30:50 PM CDT

    CaptainMarkoRamius

    by berserkrl

    Copyright infringement is not stealing. It is copyright *laws* and copyright *enforcement* that are stealing, since they interfere with the copiers' peaceful use of their own property. See here: http://tinyurl.com/cc6gpa

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:34:01 PM CDT

    ELGordo

    by berserkrl

    "How is firing someone who is illegally downloading and distributing a film made by his parent company unjust?" Because copyright laws are unjust. They're a form of censorship, and they interfere with the copier's legitimate use of his own property. "And it's amazing that you are comparing this to Martin Luther King." As I already explained, it wasn't a COMPARISON, it was a COUNTEREXAMPLE. "Some people have their head stuck so far up their self righteous asses that it's amazing to read their justifications for downloading movies." I've never downloaded a movie to my recollection. I'm an anti-censorship activist.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:43:12 PM CDT

    ElGordo - P.S.

    by berserkrl

    Here's the difference between argument by analogy and argument by counterexample. Those who interpret me as offering an argument by analogy think I'm saying this:
    1a. Martin Luther King was justified in breaking the law.
    2a. People who download movies are relevantly analogous to Martin Luther King.
    3a. Therefore: people who download movies are likewise justified in breaking the law. [from (1a) and (2a)]
    If that had been my argument, then it would make sense to challenge premise (2a). But that wasn't my argument; I never asserted (2a). I was giving not an argument by analogy but an argument by counterexample, namely:
    1b. Martin Luther King was justified in breaking the law.
    2b. If Martin Luther King was justified in breaking the law, then the mere fact that something is illegal is not sufficient to show that it is wrong.
    3b. Therefore: the mere fact that something is illegal is not sufficient to show that it is wrong. [from (1b) and (2b)]
    4b. Critics of downloading in this talkback have been treating the mere fact that downloading is illegal as sufficient to show that it is wrong.
    5b. Therefore: critics of downloading in this talkback are mistaken. [from (3b) and (4b)]
    Notice that this argument DOES NOT RELY on anything like (2a), so attacking (2a) is irrelevant to attacking my argument.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:45:41 PM CDT

    no subject

    by e_nizzle

    [10:51] -MCVamp- dude attitude?
    [10:51] -BladeRunnerUnit- yup, the dude attitude
    [10:51] -MCVamp- the dude wouldnt bash a movie. hed go have a joint, go bowling, and its out of his head!
    [10:52] -Moriarty- Good god...
    [10:52] -BladeRunnerUnit- yes, but he fucking hate the Eagles
    [10:52] -LuckyTourist- Yes
    [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- Good God.
    [10:52] -MCVamp- true [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- Fair and Merciful.
    [10:52] -Moriarty- It's taken me almost 25 hours to download SPIRITED AWAY.
    [10:52] -Moriarty- BUT I AM WITHIN FIVE MINUTES!!
    [10:52] -Moriarty- IT WILL BE MINE!!
    [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- You have cable?
    [10:52] -UnLuckyTourist- You lucky man.
    [10:52] -MCVamp- 25 hours good god.
    [10:52] -BladeRunnerUnit- moriarty, why would you do such a thing?
    [10:52] -Moriarty- This is the longest any film has ever taken.
    [10:52] -DirtyRatBastard- Spirited Away?
    [10:53] -Neth- Moriarty - don't sweat it. It's taken Coolashop.com 2 weeks to deliver my DVD.
    [10:53] -MCVamp- fastest DL ever for me was Jay and Silent Bob in 2 hours. I was amazed
    [10:53] -BladeRunnerUnit- moriarty, have you not already got the skill to see the quality of a disney movie by the poster alone?
    [10:53] -Moriarty- Because I am sick and fucking tired of waiting for Disney to stop boning American Miyazaki fans.
    [10:53] -Moriarty- I can't wait.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:46:56 PM CDT

    I LEAVE FOR THE NIGHT AND THE TALKBACK GOES MAD

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    MAD I SAY!! MAD!!! MAD!!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:49:22 PM CDT

    CreepyThinMan that fat cat is fucking awesome

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    i think i just creamed 10 times harder than when i first saw batman begins, my first porn.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:51:14 PM CDT

    axel fff

    by jesiah

    Love the play on his name. Funny how the staff here call on everyone to crucify this guy and make themselves look like hypocrites, and friedman (no matter what you think of his "review") ends up being a martyr. Ends up being like that every now and then. I doubt Friedman can walk on water, but at least he can walk, right? Whoa man that was a cheap shot. Now I'm getting to be part of the mob. N-e-wayz to continue my neutral stance, cough Gambit looked good wearing a blue t shirt and he ended up saying the last line, cough .

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:52:13 PM CDT

    emeraldboy

    by bacci40

    and the point of that cut and paste job was what exactly? are you aware that cutting and pasting entire articles is also copyright infringement? you just broke the law...YOU ARE FIRED

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:52:18 PM CDT

    emeraldboy

    by bacci40

    and the point of that cut and paste job was what exactly? are you aware that cutting and pasting entire articles is also copyright infringement? you just broke the law...YOU ARE FIRED

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:56:14 PM CDT

    greatest thing ive ever heard

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    "Looks like Moriarty has visited Friedman and left a gift basket chocked full of TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION."

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  • Apr 05, 2009 1:56:24 PM CDT

    LETS WATCH DEUCES WILD

    by toilet_terror

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_ZEEb-ntEY

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:01:11 PM CDT

    what Thomas Jefferson thinks about downloading

    by berserkrl

    "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it.

    Its peculiar character, too, is that no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it.

    He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me.

    That ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been peculiarly and benevolently designed by nature, when she made them, like fire, expansible over all space, without lessening their density in any point, and like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable of confinement or exclusive appropriation.

    Inventions then cannot, in nature, be a subject of property."

    -- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Isaac McPherson, 13 August 1813

    (Now I don't claim that Jefferson is an unimpeachable authority on the question of property rights. After all, he owned other people [to his credit, he admitted it was wrong; to his discredit, he kept owning them anyway]. Still, it's a quote worth reading and thinking about, no? And remember that Jefferson was an inventor himself, so he wasn't making this argument from self-interest -- quite the contrary.)

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:04:27 PM CDT

    Ugh

    by myspoonistoobig

    The majority of movie lovers out there have probably downloaded a film or two. I review movies. I watched the workprint on a website (I didn't actually download it to my computer), and I didn't review it. I'm going to pay $10.50 to see the movie when it opens on May 1st, and I'm not going to review that either. I was just curious to see what's different. I don't feel I've done anything horrendously bad. The end.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:08:29 PM CDT

    "If owning people is wrong, I don't want to be right!"

    by toilet_terror

    - Thomas Jefferson

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:08:33 PM CDT

    more on stealing versus "stealing"

    by berserkrl

    By analogy, the difference between stealing your car and "stealing" your movie is that when someone steals your car, you don't have your car any more, but when someone "steals" your movie, you still have your movie -- so you haven't been deprived of anything you had a right to. (You may lose income if customers are less willing to buy your movie now that there's competition, but there's no such thing as a right to a guaranteed income from customers or a protection against competition.)

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:08:44 PM CDT

    The basic gist of it is

    by myspoonistoobig

    I wasn't the guy who leaked the workprint to the internet, and I didn't exploit it for my own personal gain. I'm going to give Fox my $10.50, so I don't feel I've hurt anyone or done anything particularly "unethical". Illegal, certainly, but again, I think the majority of people in the world have done at least one thing more illegal than watching a pirated movie in their lives.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:09:28 PM CDT

    Toilet_Terror

    by berserkrl

    Heh. That about covers it.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:12:30 PM CDT

    YOU ARE ALL PROFESSIONALS

    by turketron

    DAA DAAA DAAA DAAA DA

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:14:06 PM CDT

    Harry's Attack of the Clones review...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    http ://www.aintitcool. com/display.cgi?id=11796 How is this different from this loser on FOX? Well, I know it is different...but it is still illegal...and unethical...especially when you paint yourself as a righteous dude.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:16:15 PM CDT

    roger friedman just got MEMFLIX'D!

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

  • Apr 05, 2009 2:17:16 PM CDT

    Fox Fired Him

    by chromedome

    everyone can relax now...."...unable to contact Friedman for comment--he emailed back that he was at a Paul McCartney concert."guess he is a glutton for punishment

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:17:24 PM CDT

    HEY HARRY

    by balzacs_ballsac

    It occurs to me that NOBODY here would be crucifying YOU here for the AOTC review had that hypocritical gasbag McWeeny not used YOUR website to a)further espouse his assinine call for the sacking of Friedman for doing the same thing that he himself has done b)try(again) to use your site to drive traffic to his failing site c)insult YOUR readership(again) and d)slander that filmthreat guy. At what point do you cut this deadweight loose? Straight up. You should've taken away his blackbox/banning abilities the second he left. He's now running roughshod over you, pissing off your readership, dragging you and your reputation needlessly into the debate, basically sucking you down with his failing "career" and you really need to see that. Because if just one of these sites, darkhorizons, nukethefridge, aintitbalenews, gets their talkbacks up and running and their movie news content current, AICN will eat worms and you, sir, will have to get a REAL job and lose your cu$h little world that you worked your ass off to create. It's time you pushed this shitbird out of the nest for good. If he's gone, then be gone. You have been more than tolerant of McWeeny's bullshite and even you have to recognize his attitude,ego and vitriol have gotten seriously out of hand and it's time for you to finally cut the umbilical cord and let him destroy himself without taking you and all you have worked for down with him. Enough is enough. Just read the posts, Harry, because of McWeeny you have YOUR readership ACHING to jumpship to a different movie site (and it ain't gonna be SHITFIX). It's time to send Fredo/McWeeny on a little "fishing trip" before he destroys your livelihood with his downward spiral. Seriously, wake the fuck up, mate. I can accept that the site is no longer cool spy reports but rather EW.com part deux, hey, you gotta eat, right? But at least you are not a dick. Who can say the same about McDouchey who seems to feast on rancor AT YOUR EXPENSE!! You don't see him flaming away over at SHITFIX do you? Don't let him fuck you over, mate! You know I'm right.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:21:58 PM CDT

    Harry's review: ATTACK OF THE CLONES!!!

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    http ://www.aintitcool. com/display.cgi?id=11796
    How is this different from this loser on FOX?

    Well, I know it is different...but it is still illegal...and unethical...especially when you paint yourself as a righteous dude.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:26:11 PM CDT

    somebody else just learned how to cut & paste

    by chromedome

    we're happy for you

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:30:55 PM CDT

    Balzac

    by 2leggedfreak

    Is spot on. Cut loose Wormtongue McWeeney Harry, he is doing you no favours.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:31:08 PM CDT

    Why the fuck not?

    by stuntcock mike

    http://www.aintitbalenews.com/maximum-stuntcock.html

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:31:33 PM CDT

    somebody else just learned how to suck AICN cock

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    "Not that there is anything wrong with that."

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:33:36 PM CDT

    The NukeTheFridge.com guys are losers.

    by derlanghaarige

    When they opened the site they promoted it here at AICN by placing "hints" in every fucking talkback, that nukethefridge.com is Harry's new project.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:34:29 PM CDT

    VICE SQUAD!

    by stuntcock mike

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTbzw226ayw

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:34:30 PM CDT

    somebody else just learned how to cut & paste

    by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights

    we're happy for you

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:43:09 PM CDT

    the effects company have denied that they leaked..

    by emeraldboy

    the working print. if the effects company people are fingered by fox and get fired. will there silence from this site over that.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:44:45 PM CDT

    Admit it, chriiiissssm...

    by ribbons

    ...you're just mad at Harry because you're one of those ultra-conservative douches who hates his politics (and apparently gay people as well). "Not that there's anything wrong with that."

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:47:11 PM CDT

    Yes NUKE THE FRIDGE does have talkbacks

    by wolvr8

  • Apr 05, 2009 2:48:27 PM CDT

    Ribbons...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Wow...it is almost as if you know me! *insert sarcastic face directed at tiny brained liberal I am not mad at Harry Knowles at all. I do think, however, that he is quickly becoming a lost cause in his hypocrisy. But hey, by all means, continue with your mindless Obama worship.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:56:02 PM CDT

    Thanks for the sort-of answer

    by ribbons

    Unfortunately you're not the only one who knows how to cut and paste, and I think anyone who reads these talkbacks with any regularity remembers your relentlessly political hate speech months after the election took place, so you might want to revise that statement about not being mad at Harry Knowles "at all."

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:57:36 PM CDT

    Admit it, Ribbons...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...you hate people who don't agree with your leftist politics. You hate Christians, conservatives, and those who believe in moral absolutes. Regardless, I don't hate gays. So don't spew your filthy lies and try to turn this talkback discussion toward a politics. But isn't that what you always do? It is easy to create a STRAW MAN by trying to encourage people to jump on your Obama bandwagon in order to avoid the issue of Harry's hypocrisy. Harry has every right to be a hypocrite. This is, after all, America.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 2:59:26 PM CDT

    Ribbons...you mindless veggie...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...stop changing the subject from the topic at hand toward politics. Oh...if you remember, that is how most of those political discussions started. It is called a STRAW MAN.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:00:26 PM CDT

    wolvr8

    by balzacs_ballsac

    But how current is the movie news over there? (Not that anyone seems to give a flying toss about staying current here nowadays, either.)

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:03:08 PM CDT

    I'm not mad at Harry.

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    I am just pointing out the similarities between what he did and what this idiot at Fox did. The only difference, in my opinion, is that the other guy worked for Fox...and Harry worked for himself. Even Moriarity admitted that this is now his "profession." Again...there isn't anything wrong with being angry at the idiot at Fox. However, it just bears a striking similarity to what was done here between 1998 and 2002. Those of us who were around here back then know it to be true.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:03:22 PM CDT

    hmmmm...

    by emeraldboy

    The more I think about it. The more I think that are more reasons why there was no "lets Salute Mori" as mori left this site. I am only guessing but it seems obvious that these two didnt really get on at the very end. There has been no article by harry to say how much he misses him or any kind of send off. Drew worked on this site for 12 years. he said his goodbye in his review of Benjamin button. Harry has not commented at all. It has become clear that there was some kind of fallout. I am all for moving on. when the creator doesnt even comment on it. something wrong there.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:03:32 PM CDT

    hmmmm...

    by emeraldboy

    The more I think about it. The more I think that are more reasons why there was no "lets Salute Mori" as mori left this site. I am only guessing but it seems obvious that these two didnt really get on at the very end. There has been no article by harry to say how much he misses him or any kind of send off. Drew worked on this site for 12 years. he said his goodbye in his review of Benjamin button. Harry has not commented at all. It has become clear that there was some kind of fallout. I am all for moving on. when the creator doesnt even comment on it. something wrong there.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:06:59 PM CDT

    Bottom line: Harry learned his lesson...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...about five years ago. To his credit, he has been a "studio man" ever since. In other words, this site is now "legit." Those of us who still frequent it know that this is no longer a site that will be filled with "spoilers" that aren't approved by the studios. It is a site where angry geeks discuss rumors and studio approved info.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:09:45 PM CDT

    Moriarty demanding civil discourse

    by thorstrongstone

    while calling people names. Yeah, way to act your age. How about you attack the Film Threat journalist some more -I don't think we have read enough about his blowing people for money.

    Really? You react to idiots by being an idiot? For a "journalist," you sure are not a professional.

    Leave the name calling to Taibbi. He does a much better job at it.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:34:15 PM CDT

    Long live Mori and Harry.........

    by yoda's ball sack

    Their code of morality, ethics, and professionalism are dead.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:41:13 PM CDT

    oh for fuck's sake

    by mrbong

    surely by now all interested parties have either downloaded it, been taken to a hotel room and shown it WITHOUT TOUCHING THE DISC or borrowed it, whereas everyone else interested in seeing it (both of you, apparently), are keen to wait?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 3:56:35 PM CDT

    Harry & Mori - Did you really won't the guy to get fired?

    by wolvr8

    Yes or No?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:00:44 PM CDT

    They fired the fuckstain

    by star hump

  • Apr 05, 2009 4:08:33 PM CDT

    This is sort of based in hypotheticals

    by projectedlight

    It's a very hard subject to make substantive claims about because of the scale of piracy. Seriously, how do you prove anything here?! The MPAA have probably (really, almost definitely) blown out the results of their 'research'. But the rapid decline in music industry profits over the years is very real. Box office is more than ever largely due to inflation.

    Would you guys argue that piracy has no detrimental effect on profits? I think that for most films, the loss may be no more than $10-$20 million worldwide for a blg blockbuster. Many millions download the film, and there's maybe 1 million or slightly more who've stopped going to cinemas because of piracy. Add that up for many tentpole releases and it starts to hurt. for the studios.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:09:17 PM CDT

    YOU GUYS *STILL* GOING AT IT?!?!?!

    by chaimbensexyback

    Look outside. The weather's is great. Women in shorts and skirts, luscious legs. But you're inside martyring Roger Friedman. Can you feel there is something wrong with your life?!?!?!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:09:29 PM CDT

    Actually, chriiiisss...

    by ribbons

    ...I wasn't trying to steer this discussion towards politics at all. That's why I didn't take the bait when you threw several references to "tiny-brained liberals" into your post; I'm just saying that I don't exactly trust you to be Harry's moral compass since you don't seem to be especially fond of the guy in the first place.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:10:40 PM CDT

    BOX OFFICE LOSSES DUE TO JABBERING BUFFOONS IN THE THEATER

    by chaimbensexyback

    and shitty movies. Not piracy.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:12:58 PM CDT

    ALERTING ALL TALKBACKERS

    by chaimbensexyback

    Do not name your child "Jiverly". They WILL go postal.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:14:31 PM CDT

    RE:Projectedlight

    by dailysportspages

    Dont judge those examples in todays climate.
    Go back to the times in which they happened in and remember the climate back then.
    And one eras crimes is another eras rights.

    Elvis hip gyrations on national TV were considered illegal, he was arrested for lewd conduct for doing that on stage after being warned.
    Gangsta Rap was heralded as the worst ill for Americas children since Heavy Metal, worse than the "satanic" Heavy Metal actually.
    Manny rappers have been prosecuted on stage for the heavy use of language and lewd/violent lyrics.
    And not too long ago a Black man could get arrested or even hanged for even looking at a white woman... now he has one as his Secretary of State. :)

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:19:59 PM CDT

    AOTC REVIEW

    by barrignite

    ...Is a SET-UP! There was nothing illegal about it! We have to stop being so niave about this business. Harry gives us a story prepared as he did to further or indeed continue the name of this site as a maverick organisation that "sticks it to the man". Please stop yakking on about how they are hypocrites. The Fox thing was a set up too. They are manipulating the shit out of us and we are lapping it up.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:21:16 PM CDT

    i wonder if harry...

    by cool_britannia79

    ...is fucking cursing mcweeny for bringing this wrath to the talkbacks? this one talkback has had more traffic than every other one on the site today. it's like a flashpoint, with mcweeny saying exactly the wrong thing to precicely the wrong people. it must be deliberate, no one is that stupid are they?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:34:09 PM CDT

    Death to McWeeny!

    by c legion

    Long live The New flesh!Err... When I say "Death", I just mean "Harry get that poisonous fucker off your site".

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:38:28 PM CDT

    Ribbons...you stupid fuck...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ....you were the one who brought up politics in the first place!!! Lay off, asshole!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:44:54 PM CDT

    I downloaded once...

    by mrfan

    something in my pants. It wasn't pretty. Last time I eat Taco Bell and Whataburger within the same hour.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:45:27 PM CDT

    Besides...I like Harry...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...even if I happen to disagree with the left-leaning political views that he shares with most of Hollywood. However, I think that Harry is a decent guy who loves life, comics, movies and TV. My only point is that Harry has learned his lesson about leaking info here at AICN. He was just as guilty of doing so...even though he used a "source" to actually steal the material. Thus, it is difficult to hear him mock some idiot at Fox without an admission of his own past guilt. However, now that he has admitted his guilt...and the consequences of his actions...this is finished as far as I am concerned. Harry is probably more aware than anyone else what this website has evolved into. It is no longer a "leak" site...unless those "leaks" are approved by studios. There is nothing wrong with Harry's attempt to become "mainstream" and "legit" -- as long as he doesn't try to make us think that nothing has changed over the last 5+ years.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 4:51:49 PM CDT

    BULLSHIT

    by grendel69

    This print is very old huh? Just like the script that was reviewed here was so old and alot had been changed... and guess what. 99% of that "old script" ended up onscreen. Usually FOX bullshit.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:05:06 PM CDT

    Boycott AICN

    by prophecyrob

    I suggest heading to other [reputable] sites such as Joblo.com and straight out not returning to this one...EVER! After everyone gets their fill of this thread just stop clicking on AICN. That way it will hit the hypocrites like Harry in the pocket book and he and his cronies will recognize what studio puppet douchebags they are.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:18:33 PM CDT

    If McWeeny stays I'm gone.

    by c legion

    He is an insidious motherfucker. Dump him HarryHe should be the one to leave not us.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:30:15 PM CDT

    he's fired

    by cloaker cobra

    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/story?id=7262112&page=1

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:30:49 PM CDT

    why wolverine is a disappointment.

    by executor

    I am not a big comic book fan, but loved the first two XMen movies, and from what I understood...Wolverine was a killing machine that was made indestructible and worked for the government, then there was a falling out and amnesia.
    HOWEVER, from what I hear of "Wolverine Origins"...he is made indestructible AFTER the falling out (makes no sense), then spends spends about a half day as indestructible Wolverine before the amnesia event. It's like retconning Hannibal Lecter to be a misunderstood guy who only likes to kill bad people. From the beginning Wolvy is a softy who is constantly trying to do the right thing, so the event that brings about his fight with Stryker and the group doesn't seem like a defining moment. And p.s....if Gambit escaped from the island and Sabretooth...and Wolverine is in an alley with his claws in Sabre trying to kill him, why the fuck would gambit intervene?I hear this movie makes no sense.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:30:54 PM CDT

    why wolverine is a disappointment.

    by executor

    I am not a big comic book fan, but loved the first two XMen movies, and from what I understood...Wolverine was a killing machine that was made indestructible and worked for the government, then there was a falling out and amnesia.
    HOWEVER, from what I hear of "Wolverine Origins"...he is made indestructible AFTER the falling out (makes no sense), then spends spends about a half day as indestructible Wolverine before the amnesia event. It's like retconning Hannibal Lecter to be a misunderstood guy who only likes to kill bad people. From the beginning Wolvy is a softy who is constantly trying to do the right thing, so the event that brings about his fight with Stryker and the group doesn't seem like a defining moment. And p.s....if Gambit escaped from the island and Sabretooth...and Wolverine is in an alley with his claws in Sabre trying to kill him, why the fuck would gambit intervene?I hear this movie makes no sense.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:33:49 PM CDT

    why wolverine is a disappointment.

    by executor

    I am not a big comic book fan, but loved the first two XMen movies, and from what I understood...Wolverine was a killing machine that was made indestructible and worked for the government, then there was a falling out and amnesia.
    HOWEVER, from what I hear of "Wolverine Origins"...he is made indestructible AFTER the falling out (makes no sense), then spends spends about a half day as indestructible Wolverine before the amnesia event. It's like retconning Hannibal Lecter to be a misunderstood guy who only likes to kill bad people. From the beginning Wolvy is a softy who is constantly trying to do the right thing, so the event that brings about his fight with Stryker and the group doesn't seem like a defining moment. That doesn't seem at all like the Wolverine I knew from the 1st two xmen or the story I thought they were going to tell here.And p.s...from the trailer scene: if Gambit escaped from Stryker and Sabretooth...and Wolverine is in an alley with his claws in Sabre trying to kill him, why the fuck would Gambit intervene with his magic stick?Oh boy this looks like a turkey.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:37:06 PM CDT

    MCWEENY HAS A SEVERE CASE OF COCK IN MOUTH SYNDROME…

    by creepythinmansinfinitesadness

    Today the McWeeny household must have been in high spirits. The mail order whore and her larva must love being woken up at 3AM by what sounds like a screaming 12 year old girl at a Jonas Brothers concert only to realize that it’s once again the fat cracker faggot that has imprisoned them crying and yelling at the computer.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:38:02 PM CDT

    Nuke The Fridge

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:38:06 PM CDT

    You know, maybe it's not such a bad thing

    by seppukudkurosawa

    that Mori did what other talkbackers do day in, day out- get into a tiff with some other random strangers online- as it seems to me that it's mostly the old curmudgeons who don't even know whether they're trolling anymore who are quitting in protest. Are your lives really so empty that you have to snowball a couple of remarks into an avalanche of hysterics? And not only that, you're being manipulated by trolls. If you've got a photographic memory, go look through the above 1500 posts and you can see it clear as day. You're being played, and you love it! I think calling for someone to get fired is petty and snide and vindictive, too. But get a grip on yourselves! These little white boxes aren't there for you to practise primal scream therapy. Watch a movie, light one up, do what you gotta do to relax, but these little pissy fits make you sound like a bunch of gossipping old bags at a bingo hall.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:38:22 PM CDT

    chriiiissssm... you lovely gentleman...

    by ribbons

    You might want to consider reading other people's posts more carefully next time. I brought up politics in the first place? Holy shit, no way! Yes, even though I'm a "stupid fuck veggie tiny-brained lib who doesn't believe in moral absolutes," I realize who said what in what order. But politics was only tangential to my point; you're the only one who seems to want to keep talking about it. Anyway, you say you don't hate Harry and he handled himself appropriately in this situation. If that's the case, I'd like to know what all that stuff about "sucking AICN cock" like two hours ago was all about; I'll be doubly impressed if you manage not to pepper your response with references to my politics, intelligence or sexual orientation.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:38:41 PM CDT

    Nuke The Fridge

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:44:08 PM CDT

    You do realise this is a talkback not a fridge?

    by seppukudkurosawa

    Just checking.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:44:19 PM CDT

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:46:42 PM CDT

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    by fanboy71

    I'm with you. This will be my last visit. Cloaker Cobra, we know already. I posted that Saturday night.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:48:21 PM CDT

    I bet that whoever leaked this

    by fuzzinate it

    is a comic fan who wanted the fandom to know how disrespectful it is to the source material. It is clumsily assembled in a way that conveys zero authenticity to the real fan. This is the result of an organization that is not a part of my social community making a movie targetted at us. Contrast to say, and Iron Man, made lovingly by someone who is truly in love with the source material. One is a predatory product aimed at our pockets, another is a legitimate piece of art.

    That is not to disrespect the efforts of the individual ARTISTS on this project though. I'll watch in the theaters, because there are a lot of things that I find enjoyable, that I would like to see in final form. It is the idea that one can completely change a character like Deadpool in everything but name and still think you are making a movie with Deadpool in it that makes me feel insulted. I have the vague sense that someone, somewhere, said "They'll eat this right up" at some point in some boardroom with a tone that conveys great contempt for They.

    I hate that guy.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:48:54 PM CDT

    I AM BETTER AND RICHER THAN ALL OF YOU

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:58:30 PM CDT

    "Breaking exclusives"

    by bjornegar

    In the old days, you broke something by digging in and finding it out. Woodstein BROKE Watergate.
    Today, you "break" an "exclusive" by accepting payment from a corporate shill to promote, as in advertise, whatever said-shill is selling. That's how you get the "exclusive" tag. You pay for it.
    Wow, that's what the kids call "journalism" today.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 5:59:06 PM CDT

    HOW MANY GOLDEN GLOBES HAVE YOU WON?

    by ricky_gervais

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:08:04 PM CDT

    LOL

    by amazing maurice

    http://tinyurl.com/cmyhnm

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:11:52 PM CDT

    Can someone please ban this cunt?

    by jackalcack

  • Apr 05, 2009 6:22:45 PM CDT

    bigbaldpapa...

    by suntzu77

    has a point.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:25:04 PM CDT

    RICKY GERVAIS SAID THE N WORD

    by chaimbensexyback

    And I'm not talking about Nuke.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:28:50 PM CDT

    I rem when Harry...

    by suntzu77

    In 2000 I remember when Harry posted materials stolen from an ABC person's computer...an alleged list of Oscar nominees...turns out... it was wrong. Big double standard here Harry. There was also Joe Hallenbeck.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:30:09 PM CDT

    Ribbons...you stupid, lying fuck...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    YOU brought up politics. I did not mention politics in this thread until you MOCKED ME for being conservative and accused me of having some ulterior motive for my posts. Go back and read your first post to me, you dumb fuck. Next time you want to mouth off your political bullshit, please do it on someone else's time. You are EXACTLY what turned this website from one that discussed movies and film in a civil manner...to accusations against those with whom they simply disagree politically, morally or religiously. You know, it isn't really "tolerance" when you spew hatred toward anyone who disagrees with you simply because they disagree with you. Pardon my anger...but you really upset me with your idiotic, self-righteous comments. However, they are fitting in this discussion since you are displaying such pompous hypocrisy. Like I said before, the bottom line is that Harry has made this into a studio "legit" website since his 2002 review of ATTACK OF THE CLONES. It is unfortunate, however, that he can't seem to remember what it was like before that when he or others here pass judgment on that stupid fuck at Fox.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:32:08 PM CDT

    OH GREAT, ANOTHER FLAME WAR

    by chaimbensexyback

    Just when this talkback was becoming peaceful again.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:32:36 PM CDT

    As for being political back in 2008...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...I only responded to the posts of others. I make no apology for that. I never once started a political discussion. I simply responded to all of that mindless HATE shit that was floating around the talkbacks. Ribbons, if you can't tolerate me for being somewhat conservative, then you might want to rethink your idea of "tolerance."

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:34:30 PM CDT

    LEGIT SITE, OR REBEL SITE, AICN IS STILL THE BEST SITE

    by chaimbensexyback

    Because of you all, the Talkbackers. Cheers.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:36:10 PM CDT

    CHRISM, THAT'S ALL WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE

    by chaimbensexyback

    Here, have a hug.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:36:12 PM CDT

    Ricky, could you stop spamming those words.

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    We get your point. Really. I might not agree with it...but I get your point.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:38:50 PM CDT

    L'CHAIM!!!!!

    by chaimbensexyback

    To me!!!!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:39:28 PM CDT

    Thanks ChaimBenSexyback...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...but Ribbons tried to open the floodgates once again. He thinks that anyone who disagrees with him must have some sort of ulterior motives...or he starts intolerantly accusing us of being intolerant. I'll try to ignore his straw man arguments. Wish me luck!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:40:50 PM CDT

    FRIDGE THE NUKES!!!!!!

    by chaimbensexyback

    That's what Obama is trying to do.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:41:57 PM CDT

    I don't think it's AICN's business to declare a wich hunt on Rog

    by photopunisher

    I love this site, but i must say, from what i read here, AICN has no business demanding Friedman's head. He is a Fox employe and that's between them. As for the "broken law" as an argument, honestly, seems like an excuse to justify an old grudge wanted retribution. I also doubt that, honestly, no one that works on AICN has downloaded this movie.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:44:02 PM CDT

    Speaking of illegal...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    The background of AICN used to be a photo of the 1933 King Kong...right? When and why did it change? That was about the same time that I noticed this site becoming more "mainstream" and "legit."

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:46:30 PM CDT

    CHRISM, RIBBONS - LET BYGONES BE BYGONES

    by chaimbensexyback

    No luck needed, Chrism. Put out your hand so Ribbon may unclench his fist. And vice versa, ipso facto.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 6:48:59 PM CDT

    If you want to see what AICN was like...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...in the "old days" (minus the King Kong background image), just go to the WAYBACK (web.archive.org) website. It takes snapshots of websites. In fact, I just learned that Quint had a somewhat favorable review of BATTLEFIELD EARTH back on May 11, 2000. Ouch.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:00:23 PM CDT

    I think The Zone might still have the Kong background

    by seppukudkurosawa

    Although I don't go in there. They've got serious old people smell!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:01:56 PM CDT

    PEOPLE CHANGE, SEASONS CHANGE

    by chaimbensexyback

    But not Talkbacks, thank God.

    Look. Call them hypocrites and what not, but Harry and Drew are not the same people they were years ago. So they've gone mainstream, corporate ... it's their right. That is capitalism after all, and if their sites give them the ability to profit handsomely - while giving us all a forum to vent and spew - more power to them. Just keep in mind they are not censoring you (to a very reasonable point, of course).

    Everyone rebel sells out eventually, only to be supplanted by a new generation. Look around - that's a universal truth. That's the way of human nature. Don't despair, and don't spam.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:09:46 PM CDT

    Nuke the cunt above.

    by the dark shite

    And his fridge. Dipshit.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:14:49 PM CDT

    Not you ChaimBenSexyback

    by the dark shite

    I spent too long reading & didn't refresh. I meant the one calling himself Ricky Gervais.

    The only office that fucker's dealt with was the paedophile parole board.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:15:31 PM CDT

    WhinyNegativeBitch was banned......why?

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 05, 2009 7:16:12 PM CDT

    OK I saw it.

    by disfigurehead

    Meh. Kinda lame



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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:22:23 PM CDT

    Mayhaps it was for being a...

    by seppukudkurosawa

    ...whiny negative bitch?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:22:32 PM CDT

    Glad that the hypocrisy isn't going unnoticed

    by impossiblefunky

    McWeeny is really calling the kettle black by being so appalled at someone doing exactly what AICN makes its name doing!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:30:29 PM CDT

    WNG has always been a civil guy. He'll talk shit....

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    ....but he always dropped a load of evidence to support his point. Fuck that. BOYCOTT ACCESSHOLLYWOOD.COM AKA HITFIX.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:39:07 PM CDT

    no subject

    by megatom5

    Fuck Fox fuck what they ddi to countless awesome comic series including X-men. They totally destroy Deadpool in this film.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:39:22 PM CDT

    King Kong balcground

    by docbosch

    AICN had the ID4 background almost since the beginning. It was changed to the King Kong '39 background after 9/11 (because of the shit-blowing-up imagery) then changed back to ID4 at some point later in the future.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:44:14 PM CDT

    YOU KNOW WHO ELSE SHOULD BE BANNED?

    by i am the terminator

    DannyGlovers Dickhead and Ricky Jerkfais. why do they even post here?fucks!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:59:19 PM CDT

    yea it went to id4 around summer 07

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    yes i am a loser for knowing that

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:59:19 PM CDT

    yea it went to id4 around summer 07

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    yes i am a loser for knowing that

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:59:19 PM CDT

    yea it went to id4 around summer 07

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    yes i am a loser for knowing that

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  • Apr 05, 2009 7:59:19 PM CDT

    Oh please get of the High Horse

    by spacebatman

    Fox should not do a thing. It is all in their plan.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:02:00 PM CDT

    Something about..

    by harold-sherbort

    ..banning people doesn't sit right with me...or maybe it's the lasagna.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:04:35 PM CDT

    Macaulay Culkin to join cast of "Kings"!

    by leafar the lost

    I never thought I would live to see the day that Macaulay Culkin and Ian McShane would be in the same TV show. Where is the Kings talkback, Harry?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:07:44 PM CDT

    whitty

    by berserkrl

    "What an incredibly stupid thing to say." Yup, me and Thomas Jefferson, two drooling idiots.Well, in that case I look forward to your easy refutation of argument.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:08:25 PM CDT

    whitty

    by berserkrl

    easy refutation of MY argument, I meant to say.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:17:29 PM CDT

    fuck triple post

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

  • Apr 05, 2009 8:17:30 PM CDT

    fuck triple post

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

  • Apr 05, 2009 8:18:45 PM CDT

    fuck double post!!

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    god fuckin damn 1996 talkbacks!!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:25:44 PM CDT

    bruno is back, baby!

    by iambrucewillis

    Under the
    boardwalk
    boardwalk
    BOARDWALK!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:43:52 PM CDT

    Whiny is gone??

    by odo19

    I guess that means Michael Mann can start reading his TBs again.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 8:44:33 PM CDT

    Boy you guys really know how to piss off Moriarty

    by tron

    Of course my reviews have always sucked and most of the flicks are probably in the bottom 500 of IMDB.... at least I did legally see them at a screening.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:03:30 PM CDT

    legality

    by nametaken

    its not illegal to download, its illegal to upstream share/distribute.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:05:50 PM CDT

    Is necrophilia illegal?

    by the dark shite

    'cause I just bought a flashlight & a shovel.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:13:56 PM CDT

    sometimes.. there really IS Justice after all

    by maniaq

    well I must admit I never thought I'd see the day an entity like Fox would prove itself so... enlightened!
    As Judge James P. Jones recently pointed out on the United States of America v. Daniel Dove case, each illegal download does not necessarily equate to a lost sale, and companies affected by P2P piracy cannot make their restitution claims based on this assumption - and I quote: "Those who download movies and music for free would not necessarily purchase those movies and music at the full purchase price..."
    More importantly, it is just as false to assume that one would not necessarily pay full price to, say watch the same movie in a theatre or purchase a digital recording (dvd, etc) of the same product, after one has obtained it for free.
    Would this "shill" want to see this film on the big screen after apparently enjoying the hell out of the workprint?
    Apparently.
    Remember (another quote) what Fox somehow seems to have understood here - "There's a word for all the stuff we do with creative works- we call it culture. Culture's old. It's older than copyright."

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:20:36 PM CDT

    Maniaq

    by the dark shite

    Maybe I'm dumb, but your post doesn't make sense to me.

    You're using quotes that downplay the effects of watching stuff for free, but also calling FOX enlightened, when they've just fired a guy who admitted watching for free.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:21:38 PM CDT

    Holy shit, what has happened. The BANHAMMER has fallen?

    by d.vader

    And WhinyNegativeBitch was banned? Why on earth? Was he spamming or something? I never saw him do anything terribly offensive on here before. What have you guys gotten yourself into?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:24:47 PM CDT

    He didn't seem to be doing anything wrong.

    by odo19

    WNB that is. Surely creepy Thin Man and Ricky Gervais are more deserving.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:29:42 PM CDT

    CreepyThinMan has posted some bullshit in other TBs

    by d.vader

    I haven't been able to follow this one that well, as I went out of town this weekend. But I've seen him post some crap in other places, and WNB has never posted anything like that (that I've seen). Did he insult the Headgeeks or something? Or maybe its bc of behavior in another TB? Anyone know? I know this is an odd community of anonymous geeks, but I know there are quite a few of us Talkbackers that have each other's emails. I'm curious if anyone has WNB's and knows the scoop.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:38:26 PM CDT

    That AICN Wayback snapshot from 2000

    by d.vader

    First off- Holy shit! What an awesome website! web.archive.org is awesome. Its like being a high school movie geek all over again! But second, that snapshot of AICN from 2000- Holy crap, I TOTALLY forgot how cool this site USED to be. Harry used to put up polls every week or so- and they were cool and interesting and GEEKY poll questions too! Like what would you rather be, a red-shirt on Star Trek or a Stormtrooper on Star Wars. Awesome shit like that. God I miss it. I miss what this place used to be.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:40:17 PM CDT

    And Talkbacks used to display our email addresses!

    by d.vader

    Man that shit's awesome.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:43:31 PM CDT

    Talkback Poll: Who wants AICN to start doing polls again?

    by d.vader

    Sign me up for a YES.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:45:58 PM CDT

    D.Vader

    by the dark shite

    You're making me nostalgic for somethintg I never had the chance to see. I wasn't here then.

    I guess we'll all have to study how to make websites.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:48:45 PM CDT

    Bringing Sexy Back is right- look outside, its beautiful

    by d.vader

    I saw some hotties in bikinis throwing a football out on the college campus. And did BSB get banned so he's sticking with ChaimBenSexyBack now?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:51:40 PM CDT

    It was awesome, DarkShite

    by d.vader

    Harry used to even make his own animations out of photoshopped pictures or manipulated video stills. And he was involved in almost every story that was posted, introducing the story or the editor. And when something cool happened to Harry, like he was invited to a movie set or he co-hosted Ebert's show- we all cheered and were happy for him and geeks worldwide. It used to be quite the fun site. Especially for film-loving high school/young college student. Now its... its kinda sad. Its made me nostalgic too, DarkShite. This site was once great.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:53:16 PM CDT

    For instance, DarkShite, check this out

    by d.vader

    http://tinyurl.com/c7pwne I remember this. It was such an exciting time! And if you go back to the home page, you can see the poll of the day. I wonder when Harry got lazy and stopped doing that?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:55:23 PM CDT

    It sounds great!

    by the dark shite

    I only come here for the talkbacks. A combination of genuinely wanting to talk about stuff I'm passionate about & being dragged into arguments (which I secretly end up enjoying).

    If the site was still the way you describe it, that would be fucking amazing!

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  • Apr 05, 2009 9:57:03 PM CDT

    And check the Multimedia link on the top left

    by d.vader

    They have the Harry Head animation archive. Doesn't look like its got the old stuff Harry did himself though.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:04:28 PM CDT

    D.Vader..that IS cool!

    by the dark shite

    I can see why you miss it. I mean, I'm all for progress etc, but there's a totally different vibe. I could happily spend ages looking through that stuff.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:08:52 PM CDT

    Well DarkShite, if you want to check out the old days...

    by d.vader

    Go here: http://tinyurl.com/cw98kx That's every page web.archive.org has archived. Unfortunately, they don't have anything from when the site was NEW, back in 1997. That was COMPLETELY different then. But you're right, its a totally different vibe back then. It felt more innocent and optimistic. Much more positive. It was a great time to be a geek, and while we quibbled, it was usually over a movie or a director. It was just much more fun. Now it seems geeks hate everything. Ah well. Point is, this Wayback Machine is terrific. I'm gonna go look up Corona's Coming Attractions- the other website I checked religiously every day for movie news.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:20:06 PM CDT

    Cunt.

    by johnconnors_foreskin_cameo

    Yep, you heard it here first pals.
    By the way is Mr H still sucky sucky on Wolverine's production unit?

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  • Apr 05, 2009 10:49:43 PM CDT

    Friedman Shit-Canned?! I LOL'd!

    by zardozap2005

    Well, I did.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 11:02:38 PM CDT

    when sicko was stolen

    by bacci40

    and uploaded to the net...none of the fucks here who are whining said boo think moore didnt work hard on that project??

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  • Apr 05, 2009 11:07:33 PM CDT

    More Bans? Why?

    by conspiracy

    Never liked the whole.."he pissed me off so I'll ban him/her" thing. Short of calling for physical violence, or posting someones personal info...there is absolutely no reason to ban someone here. Of course it is their right, as this is a private board; but it reeks of the worse kind of thin skinned, my way or the highway fascist tendencies. While I have never been quiet as outlandish in my posts as some....I'd still like if someone would please post the rules or guidelines, so that all these fine cynical, rude, mean spirited, vulgar, funny, FUCKING PROFESSIONAL talkbackers can avoid pissing off big brother, and being banished without warning. Thanks.

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  • Apr 05, 2009 11:17:16 PM CDT

    D.Vader...Here is the reason we didn't hate everything then..

    by conspiracy

    Because we had not yet been screwed at the box office time after time. The last 10 years of cinema has produced FAR more clunkers and over hyped crap than at any other time I can remember.The innocence is gone...my wallet has been rapped by Hollywood...and as a result; I, like so many here, have become cynical .

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  • Apr 05, 2009 11:19:00 PM CDT

    Uh..Thats "Raped" sigh....edit Button please.

    by conspiracy

  • Apr 05, 2009 11:20:16 PM CDT

    Gottta Luv...

    by zardozap2005

    ..all you people who are screaming "hypocrite" at people who run this site, all the while bashing the unfinished workprint of Wolverine, and how terrible it is. How exactly do you know it sucks? Because you obviously downloaded it, or have friends who have done the deed for you. So do some of us who like to talk like level headed adults, instead of like the whiny 14 year olds that you sound like (dickblood).

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  • Apr 05, 2009 11:21:42 PM CDT

    I agree with Conspiracy- we need Talkback Rules

    by d.vader

    Said it before, and I'll say it again. It'll help pple avoid getting banned and, well, when someone DOES get banned, then the rest of us will know exactly why. Instead of like now where we all wonder and ask and never get responses from those "in charge".

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  • Apr 05, 2009 11:22:10 PM CDT

    Blah, hit enter too soon.

    by zardozap2005

    bah, you get the point.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:06:08 AM CDT

    Re-shoot footage is in the leaked workprint...

    by sinison

    So not sure who's playin' who but there is a significant amount of the re-shoot footage in the workprint.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:12:00 AM CDT

    FYI - he was fired

    by doctor_gonzo

    Not sure if this was mentioned yet, but Friedman was fired. I believe it happened today: http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Movies/story?id=7262112&page=1

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:20:27 AM CDT

    Poor Friedman...

    by the dum guy

    It is one thing to be douche, it is another thing to be an unemployed douche.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:48:41 AM CDT

    WNG emailed me. He's banned. Fuck this site.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 06, 2009 12:49:16 AM CDT

    re: Fired

    by arous

    What about the editor who allowed the review to run? Can 20th sue FOX for damages?

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:50:30 AM CDT

    WNG was hammering Drew. Moriarty banned him.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Apr 06, 2009 12:52:37 AM CDT

    I

    by cujo_fugate

  • Apr 06, 2009 12:52:48 AM CDT

    Here's how you get banned from AICN

    by bjornegar

    1. Call Kevin Smith thin-skinned.
    2. Mock the blatant homosexual context in SUPERMAN RETURNS.
    3. Question the notion of "accidental overdoses."
    4. Mock Nolan or Cameron.
    The ban has been lifted on any Batman-related negativity, because, well, it's now commonplace. You can now safely point out the flaws in BEGINS or THE DARK KNIGHT because, though the majority of Talkbackers are still slapping that horse's bhairy ass, there are plenty enough who will agree with you. You can also now type "cunt" without pause. That used to get you canned. Let's see...anything else?
    Remember, these are this week's rules. They are subject to change with regularity and without notice.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:57:26 AM CDT

    Oh, one more.

    by bjornegar

    The reason WhinyNegativeBitch got canned:
    Remind the moderators of their own history of dishonesty and corporate hypocrisy with evidence.
    WNB must have kept a file of every Talkback ever. Footnoted and cross-referenced. It was IMPRESSIVE.
    You can ban the truth, but you can't change it.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:59:12 AM CDT

    Oh well,

    by harold-sherbort

    Aintitbalenews.com it is!!!

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:10:25 AM CDT

    "cunt"

    by the dum guy

    ... wait to see what happens next.Am I still here?

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:15:43 AM CDT

    Dum Guy

    by bjornegar

    If you use the quote marks, they won't take you seriously.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:29:33 AM CDT

    "dammit I hate the USA and apple pie, and orgams, and cunt juice

    by the dum guy

    If I didn't hit on at least one thing most people likes, then I am a failure (I love apple pie.. when I [fill in rest from above])

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:31:29 AM CDT

    ^orgasms^

    by the dum guy

    I have a spelling disorder

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:34:14 AM CDT

    Wow!

    by scumcock

    Film Threat really has Harry and McWeeny's numbers.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 2:41:46 AM CDT

    Sydney-siders

    by adhdjtom

    This whole affair really pissed me off, to the point of fucking de-lurking after six years. I know a ton of people who worked on the film here in Sydney and this could hurt the industry in a major way. I couldn't give less of a shit about Fox, Rothman, the money or any of the rest of the behind-the-scenes bullshit behind it, but it bums me out how much it'll hurt the people no one thinks of.

    It's also shit for Hugh Jackman, he always came across as a total champ who gets and loves playing Wolvie... my friend heard he's flying into sydney tomorrow morning (Tue 7) so we're gonna head down to the airport and tell him all this in person.

    Anyone in Sydney wanna come and show their support for the local boy, we're meeting at 6am at
    International.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 2:52:08 AM CDT

    Last, but not least. Enjoy everyone!

    by uncapie

    From: Drew McWeeny
    To: Uncapie@aol.com
    Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:26:18 -0700 (PDT)
    Subject: Shame On You
    Harry's been nothing but good to you over the years.
    You are a fair-weather friend and a shill. Sorry if Harry didn't pimp something hard enough for you, but it's funny how everything's great when he's publishing you and agreeing with you, but if he feels differently about something, you attack him on his own forum and then threaten to go elsewhere.
    Go ahead. Hitch your wagon to the fucking retarded "Nukethefridge.com." When they're gone in a year (if that), you'll come back to AICN smiling. But I'll be happy to remind Harry of just how petty and shitty you got because he didn't like JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF MEDIOCRITY.
    Well-played, Uncapie. Well-played.

    Drew McWeeny
    screenwriter
    west coast editor, Ain't It Cool News
    http://www.aintitcool.com

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  • Apr 06, 2009 3:16:00 AM CDT

    a lot better than X3, imo

    by geek molester

    I agree with a lot of the gripes, some of the dialogue was uninspired cliched shit, but the story was good for the most part.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 3:49:00 AM CDT

    MY THOUGHTS ON MOVIE THEATERS...

    by sexx ed

    You know, if proper moviegoing etiquette amongst audiences was actually ENFORCED by the staff in theaters, piracy wouldn't be quite as omnipotent as it is today. Just as the theatrical experience will never become a thing of the past, the angst of the serious-minded moviegoer in dealing with the ever-present hordes of straight up rude-assed "Why not work a week's worth of fucking inane conversation out at the expense of ruining something that might represent the only enjoyment some descent people get in said week"? MOTHER-FUCKING-FUCKERS will inevitably lead to an "unsavory" such as piracy. People that love movies want to see them in a theater. To not guarantee our right to a proper performance is NOT delivering what we pay for. You reap what you sow, bitches.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 3:52:02 AM CDT

    Here's what's going to happen:

    by docpazuzu

    Harry WILL end up selling AICN. His window of opportunity is rapidly closing in proportion to the diminishing "soft power" online geeks once had. It's a question of maximizing hit counts for as long as possible until it becomes more profitable to sell rather than hold on.

    And, to be perfectly honest (or at least the Devil's advocate), who can blame him? With that diminished geek power, AICN is increasingly becoming irrelevant, unfortunately. Add to that the torrent of abuse he puts up with (some deserved, some not) and you end up with an unsustainable situation.

    When it finally DOES happen, which I believe won't be too far off, talkbackers will be blamed for it. We'll be told that he wanted to keep the site rolling but that the malignancy known as talkback has made it impossible.

    Mori's departure was one of the last nails in this particular coffin. Vern will in all probability be next.

    I wish this wasn't true. I used to love this place, and at times I feel sparks of that love flare up, but overall it's slowly but inexorably fading. Often I find myself wondering why I still come here, and sadly the only answer I can find is: I have nowhere else to go for this fix of Geek Nation venom and spooge. As hollow and undead as AICN has become, there is still no other place online that can offer the same heady concoction of film loving fanatics, geeks, eccentrics, fucktards and straight up lunatics.

    What to do?

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  • Apr 06, 2009 3:58:49 AM CDT

    i just had a hilarious fuckin thought

    by drturing

    all the marketers paying to have their ad viewed on aicn, and the fact is that about 8000 of those daily pageviews are probably just from DGDB alone refreshing the page.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 4:01:34 AM CDT

    What a talkback huh?

    by kwisatzhaderach

    If only we had films these days that inspired this kind of passion.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 4:16:00 AM CDT

    L'CHAIM!!!

    by chaimbensexyback

  • Apr 06, 2009 4:30:41 AM CDT

    on moriarity

    by im_a_lead_farmer_muthafucker

    Wasn't Moriarity the same person who, a while back, pretty much wrote an open letter to the Coen Brothers asking them to make a Superman film? Almost to the point where he actually would think they would listen to him?

    That was him right? Believing that the Coen Brothers, recent best picture winners, would sacrifice pretty much three years of their lives for a project because Mori told them to.

    Is it any surpise that Mori, the apparent Coen Brothers whisperer, would then go on and address Fox on how to make their business decisions? I mean, if Mori's a stockholder in NewsGroup, I can sort of understand, but holy shit man, just because you hang out with Harry Knowles does not make you the center of the universe. I understand Harry has his own orbit, but so do a lot of planets in the solar system buddy.

    And would you stop flaunting the WGA bullshit? The writer's strike did more to damage the film industry than any pirated film ever would. There are lots and lots of humble members of the WGA working really hard that have not yet reached the success they deserve, and everytime you bring up the WGA bullshit, you make them all look bad.

    end rant

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  • Apr 06, 2009 4:40:02 AM CDT

    HEADOFSTAFFOFRA - YOU'RE RIGHT

    by silentbobafett2

    I'm sorry but AICN's HOLIER THAN THOU take on all this has ruined my love of this site. I've been with them since the very begining. I've been pro everything for them (except for Merrick coming on board - that was the downhill of all this). I hate script girl (why can't people take script sales seriously?) but I can ignore her! BUT this is beyond the pale. Every test screening they report on, storyboard image, script review, leaked footage that they talk about will show show these people I held in such high esteem are nothing more than two faced, lying idiots. And Harry, you're better than most print journlaist. But just because you started what WAS a great website does not make you a film journalist. You're a geek who has a website? Your AOTC excuse is very flawed as well. Please, please, PLEASE go back to the rebelious, geek till I die, views of the GOOD OLE DAYS. I'm so let down...

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  • Apr 06, 2009 4:53:34 AM CDT

    Well, I for one am gone...

    by marcus[g]

    I have thought about not visiting aintitcool anymore a lot of times. Mostly because of the pseudo-cool geek/let's disrespect grammar thing going on here. However, that did not seem to be reason enough. Now, there are other sites out there and this discussion has and the staffs behaviour has somewhat alienated me. Bye AICN.
    Btw. I think Wolverine will be a lot of fun when it is finished and I will definitely go to see it in the theater, but the disrespectful spin they put on Deadpool, who for me was the most anticipated character, will probably fuck it up in the end.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 5:52:26 AM CDT

    Will Smith as Wolverine :

    by ptsdpete

    Claws, and shit.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 6:35:15 AM CDT

    HARRY'S SELLING AICN?

    by chaimbensexyback

    I'll buy it. Whatever it takes to get a black box. Then you will know the meaning of pain.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 6:36:31 AM CDT

    "COEN BROTHERS WHISPERER"

    by chaimbensexyback

  • Apr 06, 2009 6:38:27 AM CDT

    MORI WAS NOT TELLING FOX HOW TO MAKE A BUSINESS DECISION

    by chaimbensexyback

    He was expressing his opinion. Just like how I've been telling Fox to fuck off and die, sadly, they're still around. It's unfortunately just my opinion.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 6:40:59 AM CDT

    Late to the Party (McWeeny is not invited)

    by masteryoda007

    What a fuckin cunt this McWeeny is.

    Getting someone fired for downloading a movie? That is fucking low McWeeny. Have you never watched a workprint or downloaded a movie before? If I saw this prick in the street I would headbutt him.

    Then you have these poofs on here trying to defend him and Fox? Fuck off you bunch of smelly cunts.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 6:43:30 AM CDT

    SEXX ED

    by chaimbensexyback

    Amen. Going to the theater (which for us is rare) is something to be dreaded and not anticipated. Until Twilight 2 comes out, of course, and the wife has promised me we would go for the tween collective orgasmic experience. That kind of noise and disruption is worth the money.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 6:45:17 AM CDT

    "HEADBUTT" HIM?

    by chaimbensexyback

    What are you, a ram?

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  • Apr 06, 2009 6:46:27 AM CDT

    HOW DO YOU KNOW MY CUNT SMELLS?

    by chaimbensexyback

    I'm heading to the shower now.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 6:49:34 AM CDT

    The film in the workprint is unfixable with reshoots, etc

    by rupee88

    The script is just so bad that this film doesn't work on so many levels that a few reshoots will not change much. It's just a contrived tentpole cashgrab and the sad thing is that it will still make a few hundred million $ worldwide and encourage more shit movies to be made.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 6:50:27 AM CDT

    OH, WHAT A WICKED WEB WE WEAVE ...

    by chaimbensexyback

    When we weave a wicked web.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 6:56:13 AM CDT

    I just love the AICN talkbacks

    by toby_fn_wong

    There is no other place that contains that many people passionate about good films

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  • Apr 06, 2009 6:57:24 AM CDT

    as well as

    by toby_fn_wong

    passionate about why movies suck. The creativity in the bashing is out of this world.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 7:07:07 AM CDT

    Columnist Fired Over Review

    by theexterminator

    of Pirated 'Wolverine'

    Despite Company Statement, Columnist Says 'There Was No Action Taken Against Me'

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  • Apr 06, 2009 7:08:34 AM CDT

    adhdjtom

    by quantize

    As a fellow 'Sydney-sider'...please let me say..you should get a fucking life...the leak of the workprint is not going to directly affect the crews and technicians here, and Hugh is a big boy who has plenty of cash and enough self esteem to not need your to come suck his wang...the film is probably still going to do fine business anyway. Calm down

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  • Apr 06, 2009 7:24:03 AM CDT

    I'm Here Until Vern Leaves

    by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights

    In fact, I'm only really here for Vern in the first place. That guy is a genius and should definitely get more of a spotlight on AICN. His unique reviews which manage to be both informative and funny, are always entertaining.Vern you rock!

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  • Apr 06, 2009 7:31:14 AM CDT

    Harry knowles reminds me of...

    by emeraldboy

    Eamonn Dunphy. always throwing his toys out the pram. Criticising from the sidelines at every opportunity. but the difference between Dunphy and Harry. is that Dunphy was a professional and harry is not. This site is stuck in the dark ages. at no attempt did the creator revamp or redesign or relaunch this site. he kept as it is. The talkback has become more hostile. to the point being of a pit of venom and bile. I am all for debate. but slaggin people off by name calling is not debate. its just cheap. Harry should sell up. to the highest bidder. Allow them to revamp this website. and then bugger off with his wife. to raise his children and massive pay check will fund his childrens education and so forth.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 7:59:45 AM CDT

    Emraldboy - correct as well! Used to love it here. But this has

    by silentbobafett2

  • Apr 06, 2009 8:11:11 AM CDT

    no1 would buy aicn

    by theexterminator

    at least not for a large price. what has this site got to offer to a buyer. it's uniqueness it tied in with the ppl who run it. without them it's like any other site.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 8:22:09 AM CDT

    "raise his children" ???

    by reaganjn

    Oh please say it aint so. It will be as useless and fat in no time just like its piece of shit old man.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 8:29:54 AM CDT

    Technically, it's out of Fox's hands...

    by cletus van damme

    ...and into the hands of the FBI. I mean, this is now common knowledge and you can bet the FBI are aware and will try to prosecute with/without the help of 20th Century Fox.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 8:32:04 AM CDT

    "venom and spooge"

    by doctorwho?

    The working title of my next album! Who leaked that to DocPaz?? Come clean!

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  • Apr 06, 2009 8:52:39 AM CDT

    The point remains...

    by onewithzen

    ...it should never have gotten to the point that they HAD TO RESHOOT AND TWEAK, AND RETOOL...it only illustrates that Fox (or insert most any Major Hollywood Studio) just DON'T GET IT....they're so out of touch with their audience they're second only to the government in being unable to discerne what it is the people want....damn, aren't they sick of fucking up?

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  • Apr 06, 2009 8:53:33 AM CDT

    UPDATE AGAIN: FRIEDMEN NOT FIRED

    by v'shael

    And at first, it seemed like Fox was doing the right thing. Saturday night they issued a statement claiming that Friedman had been fired. Everyone nodded their heads and went back about their business. Now though, the situation is suddenly much less clear.

    Friedman tells Variety that he hasn’t been terminated and from the sounds of things, it’s business as usual for him over at Fox News. In fact Fox now seems to be backing away from their initial statement entirely. Today they issued this statement in place of their affirmation of Friedman’s firing: "This is an internal matter that we're not prepared to discuss at this time."

    Something stinks here. More on this story as it develops.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 9:08:03 AM CDT

    Probably Fox News fighting with News Corp

    by freakemovie

    Continuing on what V'Shael said -- News Corp issued another statement as late as Sunday saying he had been terminated. I have a feeling it's a matter of News Corp declaring he's fired but Fox News fighting their parent company as hard as they can since Friedman's column gets a lot of traffic. Which is pathetic. He should be fired. Regardless of AICN's opinion on the matter, he should be fired. It's clear-cut and he sounds like a massive idiot.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 9:10:31 AM CDT

    I hope Fox terminate AICN for good

    by theplant

    Yep, if Friedman clawed his way back with his sounded arguments -- about his report just being a report -- YOU CAN'T BLAME HIM ANYMORE THAN YOU CAN BLAME JOURNALISTS REPORTING MASS KILLING IN AFRICA AS BEING KILLERS AND PERPETRATORS THEMSELVES -- however, FAT HARRY AND FAT MC GEENNY WEENIE MINNIE MOW... YOUR TIME IS RUNNING OUT you fuckers tried to deprive a man out of his job, WHAT DON'T YOU FUCKIN UNDERSTAND ?

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  • Apr 06, 2009 9:30:28 AM CDT

    Newscorp owns fox..

    by emeraldboy

    which is owned by Rupert Murdoch. IT will be for some considerable time.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 9:33:32 AM CDT

    ChaimBenSexyback...

    by masteryoda007

    If someone needs headbutted dont worry I am your man. The perfect move for knocking someone out. Living near Glasgow helps a lot.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 9:35:42 AM CDT

    Fox and newscorp are owned by..

    by emeraldboy

    one man. Rupert Murdoch. He has purple coloured hair. He still believes that he his young at heart. works out everyday. Sharp as a tack.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 9:51:14 AM CDT

    tailhook

    by dotren

    I imagine AICN may have changed their approach as the general populace became more internet savvy and these leaked films started reaching a larger number of people?Granted, I don't think this is really going to have a significant effect on their sales. It's the same thing with downloaded music... some people download AND buy (maybe to have a legal copy and a higher quality or DRM free) while others just download. Those who just download probably never intended to buy in the first place. Unless they steal a cd, this equals to NO lost revenue for the media company.It could also be perception... MPAA and the RIAA are all about convincing the general public that "file sharers" are right up there with child pornographers, murderers, and terrorists. Never mind that file sharing itself is not illegal, only sharing copyrighted materials is. It is far easier for them to demonize the whole general concept to the public instead of clarifying much like it is easier for them to send out DMCA notices for every movie or music file they see online instead of actually checking whether the file is actually what it claims to be or whether they even hold the copyright to it.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 9:52:51 AM CDT

    Sorry AICN crew, but you have no moral high ground.

    by happyhamster

    Wow, I know you guys understand how full of shit you are. What started off as an "innocent" bashing of some hack reviewer that you guys may or may not have a personal vendetta against has now put YOU guys on the defensive...and you've been revealed as hypocrites. Sorry buds, for you guys to go around bashing other people for reviewing leaked materials IS INSANE.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 10:16:50 AM CDT

    Wayback Aint It Cool :

    by ptsdpete

    Holy shit ! I've been an aintitcool follower for THAT long ?!?That was a totally different site. More useful, and efficient; which was more heavily hinged on information, than personality. It's probably the reason why that version easily slipped my mind. Site may have seemed routine at the time, but it was constant news feed for geeks, and cool stuff, or something. Preferred the website style at the time, in a lot of ways, to the personalized, overly-flashy character of ones today; which often seemed like going through another software.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 10:21:56 AM CDT

    Aint-it hypocrisy-news

    by faust_8

    Beaks and Harry want this guy to be fired for what they found this web site on. That's right, we can't have everyone doing what we do, the studios won't give us free shit anymore if anyone can do what we do.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 10:28:15 AM CDT

    "Headbutt" him?

    by d.vader

    Who are you, Zinedine Zidane?

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  • Apr 06, 2009 10:30:16 AM CDT

    HARRY: will you address the obvious SW EP2 hypocracy?

    by fleshmachine

    among other films that were reviewed 'imorally'...seriously...your stance on this is such a joke. this site is becoming more and more irrelevant with each passing year. either you are an 'outlaw' or you are one of them. be an outlaw. fuck the studios. there is ZERO evidence that pirating hurts ANYONE!! and if anyone does get hurt..the corporate fuckers deserve it.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 10:44:21 AM CDT

    This is like All The President's Men

    by deathwish6

    This site Nuked the fridge/Jumped the Shark/Introduced Rosie O'Donnel and a Dog the day Bruce Willis was allowed to say that Die Hard 4 was better than Die Hard. How did they let that one slip. Fucking plant. I think Bill Paxton said it all in that film about Aliens....the name of it escapes me.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 10:47:00 AM CDT

    that EP2 wasn't 'stolen' is not the point...morally same situati

    by fleshmachine

    so what if if was not technically 'illegal'..do you think george lucas would have approved? fuck no!! and THATS the point. harry knew this, and did it anyway...why? because WE WANTED IT! so admit it and stop being fucking internet pussys and review EVERYTHING..no barriers, no fear everything's fair game..FUCK the system, fuck the studios. If Jim Camerons drunken estraged wife mails you a rough cut of AVATAR next week that she stole...YOU FUCKING REVIEW IT!! if you wanna go by deepthroat and pretend you know nothing, then so be it. BUT YOU DO IT! because othewise whats the fucking point of this site??? you become just another internet movie site reporting the same old "news"...and who gives a shit about that?

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:10:06 AM CDT

    V'Shael

    by berserkrl

    "And at first, it seemed like Fox was doing the right thing"
    Censorship is not the right thing.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:11:47 AM CDT

    Wow, that Nuke the Fridge site is really good!

    by seppukudkurosawa

    So good that I can only think that McMoriarty's slamming it only reaks of jealousy of the competition. How he can leave to join a new movie news site, and then slam Uncapie as betraying Harry for doing the same thing, I don't know.

    And sorry for that little snipe earlier, Whiny Negative Bitch, you've always brought the funny and the truth like Transmetropolitan's Spider Jerusalem and his chair leg of justice! There was no need to delete your posts, either.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:21:27 AM CDT

    SAD TRUTH OF AICN HERE:

    by fleshmachine

    (remove spaces) http://efilmcritic.co m/feature.php?feature=72 4

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:23:50 AM CDT

    Just go back and read...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...the "breaking news" and reviews from 1997-2001 at AintItCoolNews. You can check for yourselves whether or not Harry (et al) was guilty of the same mess as the idiot at Fox who reviewed an illegal copy of WOLVERINE. Like I have been saying, Harry has admitted to his guilt regarding past indiscretions (like his infamous hotel review of ATTACK OF THE CLONES before it came out). Since that time, Harry has tried to turn AICN into a "legit" website...but while also making it look like it is still a fanboys' created website. The look of the website isn't too different from what it was back in 2002. However, the reviews here have quickly morphed into poor imitations of Roger Ebert columns at the same time advertising revenue increased. Why? Maybe Harry had the shit scared out of him from his AOTC leak in 2002 (or some other admission of seeing an illegal copy of a film) in which the studios threatened to cut him off from the studio people and the "career" that he loves so much? If it truly did scare the shit out of Harry...that is a heck of a lot of shit coming from his 400lb loins.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:27:11 AM CDT

    Beserkl, firing someone is in no way close to censorship

    by d.vader

    I think you're way off base there.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:28:42 AM CDT

    I wish we could read breaking news from 1997, chhrrissm

    by d.vader

    But the Wayback machine only goes to 2000 =(.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:34:03 AM CDT

    But rereading Harry's early AOTC review...

    by d.vader

    Is both hilarious and sad at the same time. He goes on to say that Jar Jar's opening scenes in AOTC- which are extremely TAME compared to his work in TPM- are "so offensively awful, that it will not only make you recoil in horror, but it will remind you of all of the worst aspects of his character from THE PHANTOM MENACE. ". He says Jar Jar was doin his "StepIn FetchIt shuffle speak" routine. Funny, considering this comes from the VERY same guy that said he LOVED Jar Jar after The Phantom Menace came out. Strange that he changed his mind from one extreme to the other. Could it be because other geek fanboys couldn't stand Jar Jar, and Harry still wanted to be "cool"? (for the record, Jar Jar never bothered me). But wait, here's more from Harry on Jar Jar's short scene in AOTC! "I wanted to burn the film, destroy, maim and murder it at this stage. I was steeling myself from the impending incompetence, the horror of my childhood being molested. I was prepared to have a very bad time." Holy Undeserved Hyperbole, Batman! All Jar Jar did was get excited at seeing Obi-Wan and Anakin for the first time in 10 years. He really is trying *too* hard with this review.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:42:51 AM CDT

    This movie was utter garbage.

    by snypershawn

    So whats twenty minutes going to add? The writers of this movie never read a comic in thier lives, and somehow they get a job to write a comic book movie? The few action scenes in the movie are a joke and I've seen better action sets from "B' movies. I'm a deadpool fan and that was horrible what they did to the character, I cant fault Reynolds because his few scenes were the best of the whole sh*tfest but even my friends who are diehard Wolverine fans were upset at this movie, I wont be wasting my money on this.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:44:46 AM CDT

    If you think that his Attack of the Clones review is funny...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    ...you should read Harry's review of GODZILLA.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:52:57 AM CDT

    I remember the Godzilla review

    by d.vader

    Who doesn't? At the time it actually got me excited for the movie. Oh how naive I was. I just didn't remember Harry's complete 180 from loving Jar Jar as a hippie pacifist to hating him as an icon leading the charge for child-rape. What I'd like to see is the moment where Harry changed his view on Godzilla and decided it was a bad movie.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:56:17 AM CDT

    Go as far back as 1997...

    by stlost

    on Aint it Cool at the wayback machine. Try www.aint-it-cool-news.com

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:57:56 AM CDT

    Exert from TURN BEN STEIN ON (March 22, 2001)...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    BEN STEIN: Okay, now you started yourself by sending in some fake emails from yourself that you said were some from other people, correct? I mean I have that in an interview with you.

    HARRY KNOWLES: Actually, actually it wasn't, I never sent myself fake emails because I am myself.

    BEN STEIN: You sent the site e-mail.

    HARRY KNOWLES: What I would do is that I would spend all weekend and - ya know - all night doing research on a story. Like say I'd get a tip that - ahh - the James Bond film is filming in Bangkok - umm - I would - ahh - begin scouring the Bangkok newspapers looking for information - umm - I would create spies that were allegedly sending stuff up.

    BEN STEIN: Now do you think that the New York Times does that?

    HARRY KNOWLES: No.

    BEN STEIN: ...or the New Yorker?

    HARRY KNOWLES: No.

    BEN STEIN: ...or The Wall Street Journal?

    HARRY KNOWLES: As a matter of fact...

    BEN STEIN: Then why are you allowed to do it? Why are you allowed to make up reviews that other critic's aren't?

    HARRY KNOWLES: Because I'm in control of my site and I do - umm - what I feel is necessary to be able to help a film that needs the help that it needs. Uhh - 'Gods and Monsters' was a movie that many critics had seen at Sundance but weren't allowed to publish reviews in their newspapers because their newspaper editors wouldn't allow them to write about a film that doesn't have a release date or a distributor in the U.S. because it was non news in their opinion.

    BEN STEIN: Have you ever heard of a site called Film Threat?

    HARRY KNOWLES: Yeah, Chris Gore's site.

    BEN STEIN: Now, he says that you write fictitious reviews, err write reviews of movies written by friends of yours under pseudonyms and say that they're great movies and you never say this was written by my best friend or this was written by a guy who works for me. And you say that this was a great script written by Joe Schmeckles without revealing that he's your best friend.

    HARRY KNOWLES: He was - ahh - specifically referring to a script called 'Amusements' written by a fellow by the name of Drew McWeeny. Ummm - but - uhh - Drew McWeeny - uhh - is a unpublished screenwriter who goes out on pitch meetings all the time.

    BEN STEIN: And you thought you'd help him.

    HARRY KNOWLES: No! I liked his script. I have many friends that write scripts that never see the light of day. I've got, you know, about five friends in Austin that give me scripts all the time and in my hotel room one of my best friends just gave me three of his scripts. If I don't like them you'll never hear about them.

    BEN STEIN: But you, but do you think maybe you owe it to the audience to say, 'by the way this guy is a good friend of mine?'

    HARRY KNOWLES: Ummm...

    BEN STEIN: Alright, you'll think about that. Ouch!!!

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:07:53 PM CDT

    Ahhhh, STLost, thank you

    by d.vader

    Didn't even think about using the original URL, aint-it-cool-news.com!

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:10:39 PM CDT

    Holy crap, the true blast from the past

    by d.vader

    DarkShite, that's what you want to check out at the wayback machine. That'll show you exactly what this site used to be like: aint-it-cool-news.com

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:12:07 PM CDT

    Forgot to mention, DarkShite

    by d.vader

    That if you go to "Pot Luck", that's where you can find all those animations Harry used to do, the ones I talked about up above. Try the link on the January 1998 page to see them.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:16:08 PM CDT

    DEADPOOL=FAIL

    by datoman413

    I've seen the scene with this movie's version of Deadpool, and then the scenew with what happens to him. If Fox proceeds with that version IT WILL SUCK worse than having David Banner become the Absorbing Man in the the first Hulk movie. And true, Deadpool on his own could make the studio a mint, which makes defacing him here completely ludicrous.Having said that, if all that I've found is just work product, then I hope Fox got their head out, and I will wait to see that when XO:W comes out.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:17:36 PM CDT

    Couple of points...

    by orbots commander

    I don't need to see the work print to know that WOLVERINE is going to be a terrible movie. All the trailers that are out there now for this flick are wretched. It looks like another BATMAN & ROBIN. Finally, with all due respect to the guys running and contributing to this site, you guys need to get a thicker skin and pull back on the insults. Let the talkbackers have their fun; much of the fun in coming to AICN is reading the wacky and often hilarious talkbacks. You're supposedly 'professionals'; please act like it.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:32:24 PM CDT

    Harry and Mori are disgusting people who cost a man his job

    by tallboy66

    It was just a fucking movie review. How many movie reviews were run on this site because they were viewed through pirated means? Fucking hypocrites. It's digusting. You people suck.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:36:49 PM CDT

    Harry's review of BLAIR WITCH PROJECT...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    http://tinyurl.com/HarryKnowlesBlairWitchReview

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:43:29 PM CDT

    Hot damn, I finally found some old posts by me in 1998

    by d.vader

    Its a shame there are no archives of the original forums back in 1997. Those were awesome. I didn't realize I posted in those early talkbacks. I'd forgotten I spent some early time in the TBs before becoming a bit disillusioned with them and how people conducted themselves. So I stopped posting for a few years and only recently returned in the past couple. I'm surprised my posts are still there, considering I've had my history deleted after one ridiculous banning. Funny seeing other pple there too. Saw some posts by Beaks back when he was still a talkbacker and not an editor.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:45:42 PM CDT

    Interesting

    by timmer33

    I'm a casual reader of this site and just skimmed through this talkback. I have to say that watching and reviewing a stolen copy of AOTC and then criticizing someone for reviewing a downloaded film does seem ironic. It doesn't matter that once was "shown to you" while another was downloaded. It's the same thing. Lucas was pissed about it and rightfully so. I'm not saying I care much either way, but the AICN people need some perspective I think. Why call on the guy to get fired? Did you have something personal against him? Fox is gonna get hit financially for this film regardless of what that reviewer did.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:46:02 PM CDT

    Harry's list of movies to follow in 1998...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    http://tinyurl.com/dlxe4t The funny thing? Harry is asking for any and all information that he could get about those films! 'Nuff said.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:49:26 PM CDT

    Watch this movie end up being a hit for Fox...

    by excaliburffolkes

    ...and spawning a couple of sequels. (Shaking head in disbelief.)

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:50:06 PM CDT

    That list is fun to read, though, cchhrrrissm

    by d.vader

    Fun to see what titles got changed, what stories never took off, etc. I didn't realize Rodriguez, who is rumored to be producing a Predator remake, wrote a script for Predator 3 over 11 years ago. Bizarre. Makes me very nostalgic for that optimism we used to have here.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 12:53:25 PM CDT

    Shit I'd forgotten all about "Tusker"

    by d.vader

    That was supposed to be Dreamworks and PDI's new animated film after Antz. Looks like it might actually get made and will be released in 2011.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:05:19 PM CDT

    I say its time to move on from this...

    by emeraldboy

    Here is some big news. Tom Cruise has worked with Paul Newman and Robert Redford. Howeever John Travolta has never worked with tom Cruise. untill now. There is a remake in the works. Hollywood is dying as we know. inside a unknown studio. a movie exec is pacing up and down. suddenly he has a bit of a brainwave. He calls his friend. we call him bill and says Hey bill. I have an idea. Really says bill. what is it? a remake. ugh not another one says bill. But says studio exec here me out. "Butch cassidy and the sundance kid" Studio exec hears his friend make rustling sounds. Studio exec hears the opening of a window. "billy are you alright?" Billy edging closer the window says " A fucking remake of sundance. are you fucking nuts especially after that atrocious tv piece of shit...it better be good who ya got" says billy. Cruise and Travolta. "shitttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt..." says billy as he takes own life by throwing himself of a ledge at the thought of Cruise and travolta starring in a remake of butch Cassidy and the sundance kid. and its no joke apparently. See www.darkhorizons.com Cruise and travolta are in the frame for the remake. Goldman better have his lawyers ready.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:13:01 PM CDT

    cchhrrrism

    by axel fff

    Fun list to peruse. I got a kick out of this description of Magnolia: "Apparently it's going to be set in some kind of carnival locale and has something to do with magic tricks/performances etc. Ricky Jay is an actual magician in real life, and he's supposed to be a big inspiration or consultant or something about this setting for Anderson. Sorry if the info here is spotty, but that's all I can remember” WTF?

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:15:12 PM CDT

    And then there's the speculation on Pluto Nash

    by axel fff

    "Not much is known on this one, but Underwood is someone to always keep your eyes firmly fixed on. He can be real cool, or moderately entertaining depending on the subject matter. Let’s keep our fingers crossed."

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  • he says, Tarzan is "Disney’s best modern age animated film. It will bury ALADDIN, BEAUTY AND THE BEAST and THE LION KING, even if the terrible Rosie is in it."

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:18:28 PM CDT

    A damn shame.

    by reaganjn

    Harold. Going after a mans job because of political views you dont even know he believes in. You are assuming that because he works for FOX he is a Conservative. Would you go after this man if he was a WARNER employee? NO. If this was a WARNER movie? NO.

    So much for liberal tolerance you fat hypocritical waste of human skin. Coward. Your not even man enough to come and address the issue on this talkback.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:19:45 PM CDT

    I agree D.Vader and axel fff...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    Those were great days! Of course, I was still in high school back then. However, I used to visit AICN from the library during lunch. It was always fun to read the stuff here...as if www.aint-it-cool-news.com was trading information in an underground news sort of way. People were far more excited about the news to waste time mocking one another in the talkbacks.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:21:11 PM CDT

    This whole thing is a....

    by cineninja

    ...prime example of how to create a buzz around a movie that deserves no buzz. I think Fox buys in to the 'there's no such thing as bad publicity' mindset and are playing the public like a cello. This ploy has insured that even ambulance chasers will go see this movie. They new it wasnt salvageable as a movie but theyve insured its success as sideshow abomination that people will discuss and go see. Its like the folks that take a huge dump and cant help but look in the bowl. You know whats there but you have to look anyway. I personally dont believe the leak was accidental and nor do I believe that the review was accidental and this Talkback is proof that their plan to create buzz worked.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:31:18 PM CDT

    THIS IS FOX'S WAY OF DIVERTING ATTENTION FROM BONE CLAWS

    by chaimbensexyback

    Cineninja is right - you're being played. Friedman's not even fired.

    Chrissm, D. Vader - thanks for the links to the old site days. But there's an absence of vitriol in the old talkbacks tha's very unsettling. I don't remember how I arrived at AICN but as soon as I saw all the vulgarity-laden flame wars, I knew it was to be my new home.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:36:13 PM CDT

    Honest question for you guys? No really.

    by wowsucks

    Ok, so movies are insured correct? So by releasing this early footage (whoops) and in turn the movie bombs is this claimable by the studios for damages which resulted in the loss of sales, as would be claimed? Just wondering if the studio can benefit and there might be a real motive, hmm.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:45:49 PM CDT

    NEEDS MORE PUSSY

    by chaimbensexyback

  • Apr 06, 2009 1:46:46 PM CDT

    I wonder...

    by mrfan

    I wonder exactly how many reviews were sent into this site and were pirated for reviews. Yet, they remain posted. Also, why not ban anyone who brags about pirating even if they are joking? Why keep them around? Not very fair trying to get a guy fired when a real problem exists on this website.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:51:28 PM CDT

    The fact that...

    by kirbymanly

    ...this issue (other than blatant insults from McWeeny and a fraudulent, insane claim of being a 'journalist' by Harry) has not been addressed by the AICN staff speaks volumes toward their character.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 1:52:53 PM CDT

    It is OK to Download Ben Verine also!!!!

    by darfurontherocks

  • Apr 06, 2009 1:56:42 PM CDT

    I was still in high school too, chrrisssm

    by d.vader

    Good times. It was the only place I could discuss movies back then.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 2:06:27 PM CDT

    I downloaded Valerie Perrine.

    by stuntcock mike

    Now I have to change my shorts.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 2:13:05 PM CDT

    AICN is pretty fucked up it seems:

    by fleshmachine

    http://efilmcritic.com/feature.php?feature=724

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  • Apr 06, 2009 2:14:14 PM CDT

    I EXIST

    by christian_bale_trashed_my_lights

  • Apr 06, 2009 3:16:32 PM CDT

    I gotta say....

    by darth_bale

    The TB have had me in stiches, I'm still going to see this at the cinema I just hope they've realised the potential backlash at F@/#ing Deadpool and tweeked it, there be "DINO" comments flying around if they have not. Also surprised I have'nt heard much from Gavin Hood throughout the whole process the only thing was a day or so ago where he stood up for Tom Rothman, which kinda looked a bit forced. Guess we will have to see May 1st.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 3:19:33 PM CDT

    harry linked to illegal BBC property....

    by cool_britannia79

    ...not an hour ago in the box of delights thread. he did it 3 TIMES! the hypocrisy on this site is mind numbingly staggering, harry, you're a fucking cock.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 3:21:36 PM CDT

    I mean Merrick

    by cool_britannia79

    but fuck it it's harrys site, buck stops with him. Or do you not think friedman has a boss that ok'd his article before it was published?

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  • Apr 06, 2009 3:22:41 PM CDT

    I want to say this

    by rollofpennies

    I like this site and have no problem with the people involved in it seeing as I will probably never meet them anyway.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 4:15:25 PM CDT

    No Surprise

    by originalmemflix

    Sorry for chiming in late. This whole thing’s just unfortunate. I haven’t watched the bootleg and I have no interest in straight up theft. As far as the Friedman fellow - nothing’s going to happen to him, so why waste time wanting something to happen, when there’s zero chance of it ever actually happening.
    As far as FFROTSS is concerned: I’ve put that whole debacle behind me. I appreciate Mori’s kind words, but looking back on everything, well… I fucked up.

    I didn’t fuck up by writing the review. I still think I had that right. But I never should’ve used Aint It Cool to fight my battles. Not only did doing so cement my job loss, but I broke the trust of the company I worked by making it a public matter.

    I’m no longer writing reviews. I’m working in a cubicle answering phones by day and hacking away at a screenplay by night

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  • Apr 06, 2009 4:55:59 PM CDT

    OMG HUGH TWEETS!!!!!!!!!!

    by alice 13

    http://tinyurl.com/cpznkf

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  • Apr 06, 2009 5:15:33 PM CDT

    If I saw it last night...

    by youngmothra

    Let's say I saw Wolverine last night. I would say "IT IS THE WORST COMIC ADAPTATION MADE THUS FAR. Yes, it is worse than FF, Elektra, etc.. It's not the special effects that suck, it's the story, the dialog, the acting and the bastardization of the characters. X-Men now needs a reboot. Deadpool is the worst enemy in any comic movie adaptation. This movie is shameful." That's what I would say.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 5:15:48 PM CDT

    Gee Cool, your so....

    by zardozap2005

    ...amazing. Giving someone guff for linking to a video on YouTube? Weak. Like everyone else on the interwebz doesn't link to possibly questionable Youtube videos EVER! I for one will be happy when all the mouth breathing over-opinionated emo 14 year-olds leave this site. Then maybe it will get back to normal.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 5:15:52 PM CDT

    if I was a FOX exec

    by larrytate

    that had this turd of a movie coming out and my job depending on a great opening weekend... I might just let a workprint loose and at least have something to point at for poor ticket sales

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  • Apr 06, 2009 5:33:26 PM CDT

    Roger Friedman now seeking employment

    by squarebird

    Murdoch took Harry's challenge. Maybe Roger can get a job here.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 5:50:54 PM CDT

    BTW...

    by ccchhhrrriiisssm

    X2 was highly overrated. In my opinion, X-Men > X3 > X2. Then again, Bryan Singer is overrated too. The only film that he ever made that was worth the hype was the first X-Men film.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 6:39:57 PM CDT

    ROGER THAT!

    by chaimbensexyback

  • Apr 06, 2009 6:47:28 PM CDT

    Brother BALZACS_BALLSAC has also been banned.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    What THE FUCK?!!! The guy posted like 4 fucking times and merely reiterated what had already been said. Mori and Harry are hypocritical scumbags, HITFIX is corporate hell. BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT. All that good stuff.FUCK OFF WITH THIS BULLSHIT.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 7:30:10 PM CDT

    D.Vader

    by the dark shite

    Thanks for showing me how to check out the old stuff. I couldn't get back to you (time zones etc).

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  • Apr 06, 2009 7:33:31 PM CDT

    DANNYGLOVERS_DICKBLOOD

    by the dark shite

    Are you guys gonna have TB's on your site? I couldn't see any. Now THAT's a cool site!

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  • Apr 06, 2009 7:45:49 PM CDT

    The Dark Shite

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    We're working on a whole new design brother. We just threw it together hastily at first. Now we're working on something bigger and better with all the features everyone wants. Praise Bale.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 7:54:43 PM CDT

    Sounds Baletastic!

    by the dark shite

    Can't wait to see it. Best laugh I've had in ages.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 8:32:59 PM CDT

    Mori's article on the HULK workprint.

    by lenny nero

    http://tinyurl.com/6bzxlw

    Yep. He never told anybody to download it. Quite the opposite. Good job, trolls.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 8:35:20 PM CDT

    DINO!

    by tedkordlives

    You rascally dinosaur!

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  • Apr 06, 2009 8:39:06 PM CDT

    DeadTermiClops!

    by tedkordlives

    Can we please adopt this monniker for the film version of Deadpool? Just say it out loud...it's got elan. I gotta say, this site is bat-shit crazy and I'm never leaving. I love the vitriol, the passion, the utter thick-headedness of the various TBer's.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 9:08:01 PM CDT

    I was thinking..

    by the dark shite

    Lobotomy boy. Or Frankengimp. But DeadTermiClops will do.

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  • Apr 06, 2009 9:19:30 PM CDT

    Disco Frankenstein?

    by tedkordlives

    Oh wait, that's Jigsaw at the end of Punisher War Zone. And it's much easier to understand the total failure of that movie than how Gavin Hood could completely let 'Wolvie' get away from him. Fuckin fox. They are AMATEUR!

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  • Apr 06, 2009 9:52:13 PM CDT

    DGDB:Will we hear what Christian Bale has...

    by thanos0145

    to say about this piracy issue on AintitBalenews?(great site!)

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  • Apr 06, 2009 10:13:51 PM CDT

    Beaks

    by batman713

    you want me to trash your lights? you want me to fuckin trash em?!

    fuck!

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:37:49 PM CDT

    You're welcome, DarkShite

    by d.vader

    Enjoy the past and what was and what could have been!

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  • Apr 06, 2009 11:43:31 PM CDT

    one million

    by bacci40

    it is estimated that the wp has been downloaded one million times...that does not count people who streamed it message to hollywood....start coreleasing first run movies to the net charge a fee, but not as much as it would cost to go to the theater you are losing out on a revenue stream....dont fight it...join it

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  • Apr 07, 2009 1:59:56 AM CDT

    Zardo......

    by cool_britannia79

    add another 16 years and you get my actual age you retarded ballsack. and you're right, everyone does link to youtube, but when you've just alienated almost your entire readership and called for the sacking of a fellow 'journalist' because he advocated pirated material, the irony is so mind numbingly fucking obvious only morons like you don't make the link.

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  • Apr 07, 2009 2:07:53 AM CDT

    Aaaaaannd... HE'S FIRED

    by jinxo

    Came up on my home page news, the Fox reviewer is out, fired, done.

    And screw whether AICN has the moral high ground. This was an idiot move. AICN is essentially a gossip/news site for fans of geekiness. Fox, on the other hand, is a major studio that along with the rest of Hollywood bombards the public with anti-piracy messages. When we copy copyrighted material e're taking the bread out of the mouths of film industry workers! It's no different than shop lifting! You're a piece of crap if you bootleg! And that is a truthful, solid message to sell. But when a guy working for the very people sending out that message not only uses bootlegging for his review but then essentially says, "Bootlegging! I like it! Very helpful! Two thmbs up!!"... well, that's bullshit. You want to call AICN hypocrits. Okay. But so was this and on a bigger scale. At leastit was until today because they fired that guy like a friggin cannonball.

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  • Apr 07, 2009 5:42:57 AM CDT

    Jinxo beat me to it...Fired his sorry ass.

    by gabba-uk

    it was the only way that this could end for the reasons already discussed..

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  • Apr 12, 2009 7:03:25 PM CDT

    Like how Harry buried this Talkback...

    by photoman

    I'm sure it will be deleted from here soon, as to erase everyone calling him and Moriarty out for being total douchebag hypocrites.

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  • May 02, 2009 8:58:00 PM CDT

    Lanalangsucks

    by orcus

    Was the fuck was that? ans IRC transcript?

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