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A few minutes of GI JOE was screened at ShoWest and Quint wasn't impressed
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here with a little update before I catch the 5 ½ hours I get before tomorrow’s Sony presentation. Before the screening of The Soloist today Paramount gave us what appeared to be an extended trailer for GI JOE.
And the theater owners went crazy for it, applauding at the end like they just watched MILLER’S CROSSING. I’m sure they see the dollar signs of a huge budget tent pole movie. It’s a very odd thing, attending ShoWest. There’s a completely different vibe here. The audience isn’t the discerning geek or even more discerning critic audience, but business people. They would be happy if there were tentpole blockbusters released every weekend, so what they react to always fascinates me.
That’s not a bad thing. They just have a different set of values. There are their personal tastes and then the business taste.
So, for business they must look at GI JOE with a much different mindset than I did. What I saw was an amalgam of better Paramount blockbusters, lazy action and dull action scenes without much of a pace. What they saw was millions upon millions of dollars on the screen and the dreams of the crazy amounts of popcorn that will be gobbled up by GI JOE patrons.
I hate to jump onto the Stephen Sommers hate-wagon, but nothing in the footage shown looked like something I’d like. And I can like stupid brainless studio action movies. Okay, I take that back. I’ll always like Sienna Miller in various dominatrix-looking outfits. Looking back on it, there is actually only one Sommers film I am not ashamed for enjoying: DEEP RISING. That’s a goofy, fun movie done right. Big, but not retarded big.
The JOE footage didn’t really tell a story, with mostly action clips cut together. We get that the Joe squad “answers to nobody,” and that Channing Tatum is the new recruit. There’s some okay quick-cut sword fighting with the ninja elements, the villain (Christopher Eccleston), a glimpse at the fucked-up Cobra Commander face you’ve seen on the toy packages, the knowledge that they are using green nanobots that eat through metal as their weapon and that the Joe squad uses robotic supersuits when deciding to kick ass.
My issues with the robot suits… they’re not all that bad, but goddamn it looks like IRON MAN Lite when they move. We got an extended look at the character dodging the missiles on the city streets, jumping around in slow motion and then jumping through the bus and it could have been a cut-scene from IRON MAN… the kind that you’re glad was cut from the movie.
It’s flashy, but not cool.
And then some of the bigger fights had a TRANSFORMERS vibe to it, too, but again not in a good way. In the kind of way that makes you appreciate the hollow effects Bay can produce.
Of the footage, the only thing I walked away with that was positive was that Sienna Miller was looking sexy as The Baroness and looked like she was having a good time.
I saw the COBRA plot to destroy the Eiffel Tower (which they do) with the green glowy nanobots, a scene where one of the Joes were in a jet chasing down a green glowy missile headed for the White House and shooting it down, covering the jet with the metal-eating green glowy things… I guess a sacrificial move, as the White House is saved. Go Joe!
It was just uninspiring, limp. Maybe I’ll get some kind of enjoyment out of the full movie… hell, I almost have to with expectations this low.
But like I said, the theater owners are sure you guys are going to love it… or at least be really hungry for $7 popcorn when you show up to watch it.
Alright, a few hours of sleep for me, then the Sony panel. I’ll report back with what’s what with that tomorrow!
-Quint
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was a cool movie
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sommers was the wrong choice for this. it reeks of merchandise over quality of the movie. i would have preferred a realistic take on it. especially as all of us that like gi joe are adults now
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but this will be shit in all likelihood.
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I don't think anyone had particularly high hopes for this. Sommers is very good at making high-tempo action films, but that's not the same thing as high-quality action films.
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I was a massive Joe fan as a kid and this should be my dream live action movie. It looks like pure shite though. Shame.
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This seemed like a bad idea from the start, really -- especially with all the recent pictures we've seen regarding the costumes. Still, this picture will rake in millions because people love summer action flicks.
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I hope at least they get Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes right...
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If it's anything like Mummy Returns and Van Helsing it'll have a CGI overload.
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It was directed by Stephen Sommers.
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You opinion of the movie is tainted by an expectation that it will be shit, no question, so you only focus on that bad and ignore the good. Just like Transformers (fuck you! It's was great!!), GI Joe will be a blast, and will be thoroughly enjoyed by the open minded.
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So, we get shaky-cam, too-close, can't-see-a-fucking-thing ninja fights, recycled Hollywood explosions without any directorial grace or style, and a couple of anorexic models who can't act that some generation of men somehow finds attractive zipped up in leather. Nanobots? Robot suits? Call me old-fashioned, but I am still stuck on the "GI Joe is part of the UN" thing. Not that I'm totally anti-UN or some xenophobic US isolationist, but I just think you don't mess with things like that. GI Joe is about American soldiers. I wold feel exactly the same way if they made Bond an agent of the UN. So, yeah, pass, pass and double-pass on all this, thanks.
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Proud to say I hopped on that years ago and been on it since. Van Helsing anyone? No one should be surprised that this Joe movie will be massively retarded. Sommers = retarded. Now if they got the director of Crank 2 to direct, that might be interesting.
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Right?
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man, the effects were only thing not hollow about transformers
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GI Joe? Look...I grew up in the 70s and 80s, and I have zero interest in seeing this. None. No nostalgic warm glow, no interest in how it will look. Nothing. BECAUSE IVE MOVED ON. Maybe we should demand Hollywood look to the future rather than the past for bankrupt ideas that weren't that great even then.
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with tempered expectations. Really though THIS should have been Bay's project with his love and whatnot of military shit
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But nothing says pretentious like referring to people enjoying something you didn't enjoy like the phrase "And the theater owners went crazy for it, applauding at the end like they just watched MILLER’S CROSSING."
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Apr 01, 2009 6:58:44 AM CDT
Stephen Sommers is a card-carrying member of The Hack Pack
by kwisatzhaderach
Avoid.
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Just wondering.
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After seeing VAN HELSING, I refuse to watch anything else from this monumental hack.
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too much from this film so there is a chance I could at least be mildly entertained. Its not supposed to be Shakespeare. Just explosions and action sequences. A summer popcorn flick, heavy with cheese and lots of "corn." I wonder when this will get the Wolverine treatment and get leaked as well? Oh and btw, its YO JOE! Not "Go Joe!"
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Apr 01, 2009 7:02:41 AM CDT
April Fools - It Actually Looked Like The Greatest Movie Ever Ma
by a-cod
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We all knew this was gonna be stupid.
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I don't see why we can't be as disappointed with this as we may be with some bigger comic book property being done in a way longtime fans don't like. My problem with this movie possibly being bad is the same as it usually is with this things. It's wasted potential. To me the way to make an adaptation of these various properties is to filter out all the worst, silly aspects of it and use the best of it for a film. I'm not even sure if they're using the worst of G.I. Joe for this, let alone the best.
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Praising Deep Rising is like telling a kid who got all F's and one D that your proud of the D. Just say his body of work is terrible and move on. Do you really need to throw him a bone with Deep Rising for god sakes. I think The Mummy was better then Deep Rising but who cares. Let's not worry about who's fart stinks less.
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Puking Piccolo lol
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I mean the world is full of stupid people who see films like this. I mean, look how well fucking Transformers did!
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Like base my opinion on the actual movie itself. Call me crazy but I go to movies like this pure entertainment. Not to rip apart every scene in the movie frame by frame and bitch about how it should have looked more like the 80's cartoon (Transformers). The fact is the cartoon, although fun AT THE TIME, was incredibly cheesy and the costumes were lame (except Snake Eyes). It does suck that because of the pussification of America that we can't call them A Real American Hero, but other than that, I want to to see what they do with it. I like the outfits I saw, the Baroness looks hot and Sanke Eyes looks awesome. Storm Shadow does kind of look like a gay Japanese Club Ninja, but hey, there has to be demographic for that somewhere right? (San Francisco) I personally can't wait and if it blows than oh well, no big deal, I just won't buy the DVD. The fact is most of you have already formed their opinion on the movie so it doesn't stand a chance, with you at least. I'm going to keep open mind, for now......
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this becos of Larry Hama's involvment. And that the filmakers claimed to be useing his comics as the main source of inspiration. I still hope its at least fun, even if its a really dumb pop corn movie...
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Cobra commander redesign?
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Sommers needs to direct G.I. Joe but it needs to be an episode of the cartoon....in the 80's. Every movie he has done reeks of bad late 80's early 90's cartoons. Too much trying to be exciting, too stupid of stories, lack of any development of anything. He really does just direct those episodes of cartoons from that era where even as a kid you kind of got bored and would rather go play outside. He should really look into going that route, he would fit perfectly in Saturday morning cartoon world appealing to short attention spans and commercialism.
I remember watching Van Helsing and laughing VERY hard at Frankenstein's monster swinging on ropes seemingly from nowhere, OVER AND OVER AGAIN! I mean, that's nitpicking a fantasy movie, but the rest of the movie was just so bad and boring, that was highlight to me. Deep Rising is watchable. -
I somewhat enjoyed Deep Rising and the first Mummy movie, but Sommers is also the guy who did not only Van Helsing, but in THAT CLOSING SHOT in Van Helsing...
The shorter trailer so far for GI Joe has been colored me intrigued, even after the disastrous generic black suit designs. Now I'm hearing about:
glowing green CGI Flubberbots
the (sometimes averted)destruction of state buildings no-one gives a fuck about (we've all seen Independence Day) Chromedomeless Destro (What, is Eccleston so good-looking they were worried they'd lose the High-School Musical crowd?)
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There, I said it. I'm really looking forward to revenge of the fallen, fuck y'all.
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If this was made in the late 1980's.
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Is that really what you guys pay for popcorn over in the States??? Fuck me and I thought we got anally rapped! I still refuse to buy their (cinemas) overpriced crap. I sneak in my snacks. I know they need to make their money on things like popcorn and crap because the cinema's get a fraction of the ticket price but still. I hate paying for cold popcorn. I will keep on sneaking in a tube of Pringels, cans of Coke and biltong. That is what my wife's purse is there for. Oh, on topic: This movie is going to suck balls.
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Men are from monster infested cruise ships, Women are from Vaseria. I really think this should meet in the middle. And again, if Universal were smart, they'd try to get him back to do another "Van Helsing" to cash in on "Twilight" and because the last "Mummy" was a trainwreck without his creative input. And if you don't like it, TS.
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sounds like a porno movie title! had to google it cause I never heard of it.
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Yo, I'm going to get flamed but I kinda liked it. Yes, the end was shit and it took the whole 'too much CGI' way to far but I kinda enjoyed it.... But how can you not like... Oh Ok, I see what you did there! Thinking back it was kinda shit.
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It is the best!!! Biltong rules. Where I live we eat vegetarians as a side dish.
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And I still think that the Stephen Sommers who directed this, is not the same who gave us The Mummy and Van Helsing. Kinda like the George Miller who did Mad Max and the George Miller who did Zeus & Roxanne.
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You really expect us to read that??!!!
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Should it surprise anyone that they both suck the same?
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I agree 100%, epic fail without him. :o) But really who expected this movie to be "GREAT"?!?! The best part about GI Joe was the adventures you made up in your back yard after you spray painted all your vehicles and ripped the arms and legs off of all your figures. Psssst...the cartoon sucked and the comic wasn't great either. Not sure why people would expect something great. Of course I was reading The Watchmen when most younger kids were latching to Joe so maybe I was just toooo old for that ship. Either way the movie could be fun for kids and old kids who loved the cartoon.
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is mos lekker! Too bad I cant get any here in Korea. Though they have dried squid..its like squid biltong, but it stinks boet.
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figures were sold in pickn pay and the cartoon was one of the first things ktv showed when mnet started. So im really familiar with it. The concept has the potential to be really fun (much like transformers) but Sommers really is terrible, so my expectations for this are super low, but I would like to be suprised
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Wolverine,Star Trek,Terminator,NATM 2,Land of The Lost,Transformers 2,GI Joe.Wow what a shi**y summer of movies.
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I'm emboerised but no.... I just haven't had time. Send me your address and I will post you some billies! Squid biltong is kak ou! LOL
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in fact it costs about 15000 Won (about 140 Rand) for me and my girlfriend to go watch a movie. Though that being said, the cinemas here are really modern and stste of the art:)
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pricy. What!? you still have nt watched them lol. Oh well guess imucky my gf likes sci-fi:)
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...sal moet wag tot die vrou loop. Sy het haar neus opgetrek toe ek daai Dvd's by die huis bring. But back to this movie. Still think it will suck.
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If not why do you think it will suck?
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No, can't say I was a Joe fan. I remember it on KTV but wasn't a fan. I just looks, dof. Hope it surprises me but I will probably wait for the Dvd.
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Sommers makes Bay look like fucking James Cameron.
I am constantly surprised how this guy gets work. His movies are the definition of boring. I was looking forward to Van Helsing, but I swear to god I fell asleep 45 minutes into the movie. The guy has no vision or energy. -
though there was a far superior comic written by a guy named Larry Hama, and he actually made it work and injected a lot of realism and depth into it.for a time it outsold the x-men comics. And apparantly the movie is based more on his comics than the cartoon. And they got him involved as a creative consultant. Thats the only reason I have some hope for this
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...Destroy something else why don't you Hollyweird? I mean something besides the Art of Film , BTW.
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...but G.I. Joe lost the plot with the "Life-Like Hair." How's that supposed to be dangling a carrot for eight-year-old boys?
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Please! My email is allanlmb37@yahoo.com thanks buddy
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...let's hope for the best then!
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Apr 01, 2009 8:54:03 AM CDT
Destroying the Eiffel Tower? Paging TEAM AMERICA: WORLD POLICE!
by balzacs_ballsac
Why didn't they just remake TEAM AMERICA as a live action movie with G.I. JOE guys? Oh wait, that's what they did do...
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And it sucked really, really hard. A loud, expensive, dumb computer game cut sequence.
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interested in Transformers 2. And that you liked the first movie. Were you familiar with that source material before you saw it?
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Exec 1: Hey, lets fuck up a franchise like Fox fucked up the X-Men franchise! Get me Sommers on the phone for G.I. Joe!!!
Exec 2: Good idea! Too bad Bay isn't available for Joe!
Exec 3: Wait, guys, lets get someone who may actually make a decent movie! Lets bring in someone with an inspired direction... Lets speak with Del Toro, Spielberg, Jackson, or even the Nolan brothers!
Exec 1: HAHAHA.. you retard, who cares about the quality of the movie, as long as we make it an hour half long and market it, the movie will sell because well, look how Star Wars prequels performed. They sucked shit and yet ppl came out in droves!!! Get me Sommer on that phone and a new line of coke on lined up! -
This whole thing reminds me of that time towards the end of the Joe craze. I was more of a Cobra guy myself, but it was my favorite toy line. (I collected the comics, and watched the cartoon religiously. Now I'm reading reprints to my nephews, and they love it.) But there came a point where the original cartoon was losing popularity, and ended with G.I.Joe the movie. Not long afterwards, they introduced the Cobra Hyperjet(?)in the toy line; and there was a climactic battle on Cobra Island in the comics. All of which should've been the end. But it wasn't. Suddenly, there were special "Teams", teams with fluorescent uniforms, teams that would glow in the dark. Hasbro would capitalize on the Voltron smaller teams for younger audiences, and herald the coming of the Power Rangers. And this is when things went to pot. (The same kind of thing was happening with Transformers...Head Master, Target Master... etc.) Characters were just being repackaged with newer, brightly repainted outfits and weapons to fight missions that made no sense. It lasted a short while, and then collapsed. Why? Because they missed the point of why kids liked Joes in the first place. While the cartoon certainly lacked even the slightest ounce of maturity, the comics and the toys gave kids a feeling they weren't being totally talked down to. Characters had specialities and backgrounds that gave them a purpose. In the comics, people got shot and killed. You could actually get an idea about what some people in the military really did. You could argue that this was a giant propaganda campaign to raise a generation of kids willing to join the Armed Forces--and maybe it was. But the reason it was effective was because it wasn't ENTIRELY silly. As with all good ideas in American culture, though, dollar signs outweigh innovation. Next thing you knew, G.I.Joe was gone. Saban was king. (Shiver.) This is the issue with the flick. Concentrating ONLY on the dough may give the suits behind the project a short, but respectable cash influx. But it won't recapture the lightning in a bottle G.I. Joe was for that brief moment in our childhoods. So, I for one, don't see the point in wasting my time or money. Maybe I'll go to a matinee to satisfy my curiousity. I'll probably just wait till it comes out on DVD, and rent it for a buck on a Tuesday. Ahhh well... I'll always have 1983.--By the way, DEEP RISING was AWESOME FUN!
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but you know the top directors wont touch things like gijoe and transformers with a ten foot pole, right? Its never gonna happen my friend. gijoe and transformers are seen as juvenile toy commercials, so unless a top director was specifically a fan, and gave a shit about the relatively shallow mythology of these Hasbro franchises, its just not gonna happen...And im saying this as somone who grew up with this stuff and has a fondness for it.
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Destro's face mask is a family heirloom and it gets melted to his face at the end. Duke had a fiance named Ana, until she became the evil "Baroness". She has a scientist brother named Rex who becomes the "Doctor" in Cobra who in the end of the film becomes "Cobra Commander". "Zartan" becomes the President at the end through a facial reconstruction nano-machine process.
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Bay seems to be made for G.I.Joe. Given the respect the military has for him, he could have made a great American Joe film using real military equipment and locations, just like the Marvel comic.
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1) Of course a live-action GI Joe film from Stephen Sommers is going to suck. Two wrongs don't make a right. (Yes, I know I'm the 500th person to point that out in this talkback alone)2) Did Quint really just complain that a trailer didn't tell a story and seemed to just be a bunch of action shots edited together?3) To whoever pointed out that Quint came across as kind of pretentious. Of course he did. It's Quint... he is pretentious. Being slightly less of a douchebag than Beaks is not really a badge of honor.
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sness to him. I also think gijoe will suck but Quint can be a real film snob sometimes...
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It's Stephen Sommers, people. I refer to him as "Captain Braindead." He's Michael Bay without the zippy Michael Bay-ness. It's amazing this guy still gets work.
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My god, not every comic-esque property has to be fucking TDK.
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I posted everything that is known above. it was leaked last week and since taken down at every fan site. it's just a synopsis.
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I stopped reading at that point. I knew about the awful black suits but had no idea it was a lame excuse to make this into X3!Remember that awful scene(everything about X3 was awful) where all those mutants could jump very high off the bridge. Remember that shit!!!I'm guessing this will excuse the JOES suddenly jumping higher, running faster, and taking hits better than normal humans!Someone sais this summer would be a shit summer of movies and they look to be right! I expect there will be more sleepers hits than usual.
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Oh come on, you know thats going to be the Porn movie name.
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Fuck Hollywood.
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Sommers can't direct his way out of a wet paper bag.
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but it won't. It will be a cartoon that has people in it.
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Or something ......
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But now it came be done with Robotic suits.
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now im not saying GI joe has the depth that watchmen has..well yeah I am..the marvel series was pretty f'n great. of course these idiots based it on the kiddie cartoon. what a waste of a golden opportunity. transformers was a cartoon...GI JOE was a brilliant comic series. im just saying...give these projects to people that understand it...not shallow eye candy makers.
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if you think GI JOE is 'just a cartoon'...then you don't know gi joe at all.
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than nanomachines?
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I think Spielberg, Jackson and Nolan are probably busy with their own projects and don't want to have to deal with the unrealistic expectations of the fanboy fanbase.
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I want this movie to kick ass but I know it won't. They made it so families could go. The problem with that is that in the twenty years since the GI JOE cartoon, the concept of an "evil terrorist organization" has become a little more relevant to our world. I would've loved a realistic, mature take on the subject of an international terrorist fighting force in the modern world. instead I get super suits. Spare me. Hope they reboot the franchise with a sequel -
seriously the problem is that everyone here thinks of the cartoon when they think of GI JOE...but the cartoon was just a kiddie toy spinoff...GI JOE (as we know it) BEGAN and ENDED as one of MARVELS BEST comic series ever!! THAT what this movie should be based on...NOT the kiddie cartoon.
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Yo Joe!
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I love how "open minded" and 'tasteless' have become interchangeable these days...
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And admit you also like The Mummy. It's a great, knockabout flick and you know it.
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How hard is it to do Cobra Commander's design? You walk up to your costume designer and place the silver mask figure on the desk. You say, "make me that." End of story. Also, this whole "we see his eyes so the actor can act" is bull. Actor's - well good actor's - are supposed to use pantomime and not their eyes. Did we say "well Darth Vader was a terrible acting job because we couldn't see his eyes"? No, Vader & Fett were badasses because we couldn't see their eyes.
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I like The Mummy. The sequels... not so much.
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The graphics were not completely done, but I thought it was a fun film. The explosions and destruction was over the top, but really I would have been disappointed if it was any other way. The story was good enough for what they were trying to occomplish, which was to show off a lot of guns, costumes, and vehicles just like in the old G.I. Joe.
The acting was pretty bad, though. I almost laughed out loud every time Denis Quade opened his mouth. It was strange because I really liked all of the actors in other films, but it seemed as if they were being directed to deliver all of their lines like they were doing a voice over for an 80's cartoon. Maybe that was the point… Also, it was odd seeing Brandon Frasier do a cameo in this flick, since it was a very short cameo and I don’t think he had more than one line.
Oh, and for all of those people who are so worried about the costumes, don't. The black suites were just the first set of clothes that they wore during the introduction screen for the Joes when they dropped in to save the U.S. military (who seemed to have remained at a modern day tech level, while the Joes and the evil corporation had super advanced technology).
In the end, I was happy to have seen it. I am in no hurry to see it again, but it was a fun time. It is a very good summer, popcorn action flick. -
Don't forget V in V for Vendetta. Every time I see it I think damn Hugo Weaving is a great actor.
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Actually looked exciting in a weird "new" sorta way. Surprised me. Didn't get the Mummy/Van Helsing feel at all. Then again, it was a shot that lasted less than a second.
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He acts like it might turn out to be good. No,ladies and sirs.
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She's beautiful in that very bland way- much like Nicole Kidman. Then again, I've never seen a Sienna Miller movie.
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It sounds awesome!
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Only in live-action. That would be a BADASS way to start the movie (and every sequel thereafter).
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Apr 01, 2009 10:59:42 AM CDT
I love people who act shocked over this sucking
by nobody_touches_buddy_revell
3 words - Stephen FUCKING Sommers
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of creativity when geeks are saying how much worse a GI Joe film will be over a sequel to shitty transformers.
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netflix Layer Cake
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as a good reviewer for action movies.for other genres maybe,but not for this kind of movies.
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I enjoy Sommer's films, they don't aspire to be anything more than popcorn entertainment. Brainless? Yes. Acting? Decent to horrible. Effects? Good to horrible. Stories? Almost invisible. Good fun? Yes, for the most part. Call me what will, undemanding, stupid, low brow, whatever, when I want substance from my movies I will look to the directors who I expect it from, when I want popcorn fun, I will watch movies from guys like Sommers. Carry on!
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...the other half is superior firepower.
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That is all...
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Thanks for the rec. I didn't know she was in that, but I've wanted to see it for a few years.
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shame on you. Unless you REALLY REALLY needed the cash. Because you can't tell me you took the job for the awesome script or the chance to work with an amazing director...
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Of the single WORST movies Ihae seen in my lifetime. Good God, that is one crappy movie.
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Wasn't excited for it. Still not. Will never be. The film looks shitty to begin with.I have no plans to see this retarded lump of action figures some to life on film. PASS!
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"... applauding at the end like they just watched MILLER’S CROSSING." This movie was made for the TRANSFORMER movie audience, i.e. people with a lot of time on their hands and easily pleased.
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*come to life
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Apr 01, 2009 11:53:48 AM CDT
So the movie officially sucks.... Now I know...
by pissed off and bitter
And knowing is half the battle....
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oh yeah, to trick people into seeing a movie that has nothing to do with it, when the could have just a made a cheaper Joe movie and not bothered with the trickery.
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Apr 01, 2009 12:12:59 PM CDT
Sommer's movies are just boring. i dont care that they are stupi
by bmacsmith
someone above listed all the reasons they should hate his movie, but are entertained anyway. my question is what is entertaining about his movies? dos it just take a cool concept to entertain you? do you realize that literally anyone can film a lifeless but functional FX blockbuster when given a huge budget? His movies are just boring. Even the effects work (average at best) can't save them.
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I'd say Bay. as much as i hated Transformers, i at least enjoyed his earlier moronfests like The Rock and Con Air. Sommers is a bad clone of Bay, and Emmerich doesn't even try anymore.
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GI Joe began as a toy for Hasbro that was adapted into a cartoon and comic book. The cartoon and comic book go hand and hand together.
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That was Simon West. Bay did Bad Boys.
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To all who are bemoaning how much this film is going to "suck" because it is directed by Stephen Sommers and that it is raping their memories of a 'classic' comic/cartoon/toy line -- I've got one piece of advice: If you truly believe that, then DON'T GO SEE THIS MOVIE!!!! Don't give the studio a big box office take, don't justify that Sommers should still be hired to hack up another film property, and pay to see something you are truly excited about and want to see more of . . .
How hard is it to figure this out. As the tag line says, "Knowing is HALF the battle," but using the knowledge is the real power. -
It's a kids movie about 25 year old toys.
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i could have sworn. oh i guess they were just Bruckheimer films.
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See:Simon West with Con Air and Dominic Sena with Gone in 60 Seconds. Its easy to see why you got confused. They all fit the mold Bay started.
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...Did you or did you not enjoy Sienna Miller as The Baroness?
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Please add tentacles to this movie, only then will it make money.
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She didn't have a big role, just a sexy one. And I think she works best in a small dose. For the love of God avoid Factory Girl.
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I love Deep Rising, I will see G.I Joe but it looks cheesy, the older comics taught me about fascism and political shenanigans, any pics of Cobra Commander yet?
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I'm expecting 2 hours of stupid but fun Ninjas, Guns, Hot chicks, and blowing shit up. That is all it needs to be to get me to spend an afternoon in the theater.
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What the fuck are you guys talking about? The mummy rocked! Was 400 times better than the last Indy movie and even better than The Last Crusade - Yeah, you heard me!! That movie was a fantastic popcorn movie! Mummy 2 and 3 - lets not talk about it and Van Helsing was a wasted opportunity. But Sommers got the Mummy right! Deep Rising also a success. Sommers may not be the best - but he isn't the worst either.
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I'm not surprised by this news at all. Once I saw who was directing it and looked through his accomplishements, I knew that there was no chance that this movie would turn out as good as it should have.
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G.I. Joe wasn't propaganda to get people to join the military. It was propaganda to get people to buy toys. It did however, become better than just that.
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it sucked less than one of the worst movies that came out last year! well holy shit!
the first Mummy was watchable. I'll give it credit for that. -
better the The Temple of Doom, and thats an indisputable fact.
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Damn. That's no joke. On imdb.
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I read IMDB COMPLETELY wrong. Though I guess you could say I didn't lie- imdb says Leia's mom Padme died a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away. (honestly I saw it was Debbie Reynolds bday and read it wrong. Oh so wrong).
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...is one of the worst films to come out last year is fucking hyperbolic stupidity. IMDB lists 7599 films being produced in the USA last year. I don't care how much you hated Crystal Skull it didn't even crack the top 7550 worst films to come out last year.
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Please tell me they scream this when they bum-rush the Joes. I would pay to see that ridiculousness.
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yeah genius, i literally meant all 7500 movies that came out last year, because i saw them all. Thats like arguing a movie can't suck because it doesn't have lips! its a fucking retarded comeback.
But to play along, of those 7599 films that came out, its safe to say around 6000 of those were probably better than Indy 4. -
That's all we need, gents. Skip this trash and wank to better material.
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was a fucking horrible movie
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...it was my bad though as I wasn't aware that your opinion was indisputable fact, but you might want to look up the definition of "hyperbole".
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http://tinyurl.com/3a5ndw
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I really thought that a movie based on a line of action figures would be really good. Fuck. My summer's gonna suck, I guess.
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it was genuinely one of the worst movies out last year. its fucking science. of course its a bit exaggerated. i was making fun of you because that you brought up the fact that there were 7500 movies out last year, most of which had no theatrical release and weren't seen by anyone, and so I was full of hyperbolic insanity to suggest it was one of the worst. Do you realize how stupid you sound? would you feel better if I said "Of the major motion pictures released last year which were seen by some noticeable percentage of theater going patrons, Indy IV was one of the biggest shit stains on the face of cinema released?" is that accurate enough?
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...and they'll blow this too.
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The fact that this footage is limp and boring doesn't surprise me at all. Sommers is a jackass and so is Hasbro for fucking up what could have been the best action trilogy since star wars. Seriously, it had that kind of potential but studio folks want to be stupid and gay and totally throw out what made the cartoon and toys rock. They all had PERSONALITY!.well up to a point before the series got retarded. Throwing a black suit on everyone is just a chicken shit cop out.
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I'd feel better if you understood the difference between an opinion and a fact.
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...you took my comment as a serious critique of your stated opinion, but want to know if I know how stupid I sound?
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I'm still going to give it a small chance. I need to see more before I render my personal judgment.
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Yeah I'm guessing you should actually see it to form your own opinion. I still don't get what there is to "BLOW". The comics weren't great and the TV series (which face it, is what 99% of the public will fall back on to remember) Who remembers this... "Created in 1963, G.I. JOE was inspired in part by a TV show called "The Lieutenant." A licensing agent named Stan Weston brought the concept to Don Levine at Hasbro, with the idea of creating a poseable soldier for boys. Levine and his team of designers ran with the idea, and the rest is history."
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...a childrens cartoon that was based on a freakin' Barbie doll people. What exactly are you expecting out of this...Lawrence of Arabia? Maybe Harry should have a Kiddy Korner for stuff like this.
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But your hatred of the money men is palpable.
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to reimagine it so radically. The original designs and concepts from the comics were perfect. They over thought this. At least Warren Ellis gets it (though he probably loathes our military), even if it were only for a paycheck, with his upcoming G.I. Joe Resolute seen here: http://tinyurl.com/6cfewn
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http://tinyurl.com/bvnqe3http://tinyurl.com/bnncathttp://tinyurl.com/curawt
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It was a comic four years before the cartoon. Hama's comic was far more adult than the cheeseball cartoon, and deserves a worthy adaptation. The ol' "it's just a cartoon/toy commercial/comic book/dildo/etc." argument is tired beyond belief.
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that the studio/producers of this thing seems content to make a movie that only appeals to the 13 year old boy demo... Yes, I get that the 1982 toy line was designed for that age, BUT, those 13yo kids have grown up. In addition, the tweens of today do not play with action figures - As a ski coach, when I make conversation with them, they want to talk about:
1. Xbox/PS3/Wii
2. The interweb/Facebook/AIM/MSN
3. iPod
They don't really care for action figures... that is something nerdy 30-somethings collect.
I think if the studio really understood this franchise they would make it accessible to both 13yo boys and 13yo boys at heart. A semi serious take on the material without the stupid power suits would have been appreciated.
They got it bass-ackwards. -
silly, and poorly done, as well: http://tinyurl.com/ca32v7
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Yup, I gotta agree. They could have played it closer to the source material and it would have worked out very well.
BTW: Why did they make Quaid's Gen Hawk look like Flint? I just don't get it. This smacks of a property put in the hands of people who were like "This GI Smith thing should do well, since that Transporters movie Bay did made a huge amount of cash." -
BODY MASSAGE Awesome.
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Enjoyed it alot and still do. This-well it looks like an overdone combo of SWAT and the Mission Impossible movies. Maybe worth your while, maybe not. I'll give it a shot as a matinee. I do like Sommers to a point. GI Jose, less so.
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I remember a kid in the neighborhood (keep in mind this is early-mid 1960's) getting a GI Joe "doll" (as we called it) and his sister wanted it to play with her Barbie's...they were the same size mate. So, my point is that folks seem to be applying gravitas where it really isn't called for. Fun stuff? To be sure but just take it for what it is and pardon me if I roll my eyes over the perceived heaviness of the subject matter. Hey, I'm a Hobbit-head so I can relate.
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Apr 01, 2009 4:55:53 PM CDT
Oh GOD, I love GI Joe but I have ZERO desire to see this movie.
by bruticus
I mean look what they did to Cobra Commander??? His face should be a shiny fucking SHIELD to hide it when he is on TERRORIST TV. Noone should EVER see his actual face. Get it right cocksmokers.
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Sky Patrol and Night force to the list.They were too far fetch, but the toys were pretty cool.This movie however will suck donky dick.Robo Joes my ass!
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and knowing is half the battle
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The kung-fu grip Joes and G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero are related name only. They were entirely different toy lines. But the comic premiered along with the 80's version of the toy, and set the standard for the story. And no one is asking for gravitas -- merely less silliness and more faithfulness to the property. Oh, I've read all of the Middle Earth books including the dull history of ME books as well, so you know, that I know, that you know how irritating it can be when they blatantly decide to change obvious stuff that is essential to the milieu.
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Perhaps they were trying to amalgamate characters so they wouldn't have too many CO's? Or because the Army wears black berets now? I can't figure it out.
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Apr 01, 2009 5:25:06 PM CDT
"And GI Joe got stuck! And GI Joe got stuck in the water...
by dickballsworth
And then a big brown shark came... dih DIH dih dih dih, dih DIH dih dih dih!"
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Here is an example you may relate to: Peter Jackson et al had Shelob's lair all brightly lit. Now, I realize it had to have something visual for the movie audience, but they needed to emphasize the palpable darkness (which blew the frightful moment when Frodo lights the Phial of Galadriel and Shelob's face is inches away). As you know, Shelob was a child of Ungoliant who was made out of darkness, and gave off shadows, so Shelob also severely darkened her lair. Anyone who is really into the property would be aware of that.
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equivalent to the dwarf tossing in LOTR.
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Apr 01, 2009 5:50:45 PM CDT
A Very Elegant Written F Bomb: Outside Observation From Michigan
by lostinmyroom1981
I have been coming to this site for years. I have been a socially constructed labialised fan boy ever since my parents fell into the marketing scheme of the late 90s known as the return of Star Wars. Back then, my parents would buy me all those Kenner action figures with what money they could muster up, ever since I was hooked on the movie marketing machine. ..
Oh how the internet really picked up in anticipation for the Star Wars prequel known as the Phantom Menace. It was a real innocent time, before the dark side consumed all, so to speak. I truth I am not sure how I found Aint It Cool News. But once I did I would come here almost every day and read what material they could dig up. Us fans wanted something so bad, we could taste it, and we the consumers needed to know what are dreams would be like. And as we eventually found out, our dreams never even materialized.
Time went by, most of the population of this site had to go to college, break up with girlfriends, watch their parents grow older. The same people who ran the site had to do the same.
As the internet has changed everything it now must be the same. There is no room for sharing, trading, or getting anything for free in the simulated world in which we now live. The internet it abstract, it is lucid, but like everything else in your feeble lives it is now officially owned. How ironic it truly is that this occurred on April fools day. While the Billionaires are fighting Pirate Bay in world court, Hulu is advertising on your TV set. Free programming for all, brought to you by NBC, ABC, FOX, and the Federal C C.
I am not sure. I know Wolverine is only one shameless attempt and making money, much like Marvel itself. It’s a system of deceit, assimilation, and socialization. And while most suffer in this country because of credit card bills, medical bills, and starvation the corporations (S) morally suffocate us with their hypocrisy of dare I say, a juvenile plethora of bullshit. Were not children anymore, don’t let them talk to you like children.
This site is over. It has officially been consumed by everything you hate. We have made them rich, fat, and allowed their terrible uneducated babble filter the very cyberspace ways that were free from such a physical tyranny. Much like face book, My Space, and Amazon ( most likely goggle) Aint It super Cool high five News is a marketing contraption for the brainwashing elite. Its over here… Move on if you are a fan…
The people who run this site should be ashamed of themselves. Thank you for the years, there are many good people on these boards, much like there is throughout America. But this is a day when a new site should be started by fans who hold free speech as well their personal freedom the foremost priority in their short lives.
First that letter from the home schooled writer of the Watchmen movie ( how did that blue tiger get formed by the way?) and now this “obey the man talk”. Its about time, put these morally condemning hypocritical assholes out of business. Do it for America. America fuck ya!
Sincerely
A middle class fan…
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New terrorist threat requires formation of bad ass tactical team. Create backstories as necessary, intersperse cool action. Easy. Done. And how the hell is Duke the "new recruit"? He was the team leader, an E-9 in the Army. wtf?
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she needs more film exposure
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I was hoping they might at least make this fun. But it sounds really dumb. And why have they changed the designs so much? The characters, for the most part, are fairly real world looking. Cobra commander is a really shitty design. I cant believe im looking more forward to another Bay transformers movie than i am gijoe....
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That is jerking off to Robert Downey Jr as Sherlock Holmes. And every Judd Apatow piece of shit that comes along. Figures.
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merrr.
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A V A T A R.December.Nothing else matters.
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way i care about Avatar. There I will expect a very high standard, and great epic science fiction action and world building. With gijoe i dont expect anything more than a dumb popcorn movie. Sometimes thats all I want to watch. I dont need every movie to of the dark knight quaity.
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this site and guys like quint jerk themselves off over things like the Apatow comedies (some of which have been funny, but some really overrated too) and the new Holmes. Nevermind that guy ritchie does nt exactly have a much better track record than Sommers, and the script is really dumbed down to make Holmes appeal to a wider and younger audiance. Im not sure I see all that big a difference. Maybe if Paramount had invited one of the writers to the set and gave them pwesants, If Sommers gave Harry calls etc...then maybe they would have a different attitude.
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The trailers look like ass, they should just make a new GI Joe cartoon series for the kids of this generation
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They did - it's called Sigma Six. It's shitty, though. Wait for G.I. Joe: Resolute to make up for this crap.
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I mean WB catered Watchmen to fit what the geeks wanted down to the Glass music and it didn't do so hot. So bash GI JOKE, oops I mean JOE all you want, they don't give a rat's behind you guys anymore because you make up so little of the movie going population
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That was a fun bigger bugetted B movie. The only Stephen Sommers I will watch repeatedly as far as the 1st Mummy I wont knock anyone that liked it. I just had preferred a more horror type of film. As far as the rest of his films....B00000! Saying all of that, I havent really seen anything that hypes me for this movie, outside of maybe Sienna Miller in our outfit Gordon Levit as Cobra Commander intrigues me.
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I know I do
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better, his movies are just as dumb, and have the same massive lack of logic...At least he uses better fx though. But really he does nt even try any more. At least id4 and stargate were attempts at something, but geeez 10,000 bc was bad, and 2012 looks like he's just rehashing the same ol shit.
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make a popcorn movie for the masses. Don't you know you were supposed to make a panel-by-panel version of the Silent Interlude issue that was three hours long and filmed entirely in Japanes and Trans-Carpathian?
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from gijoe is a popcorn movie for the masses. Just calling a spade a spade dude. Sommers is a hack director, doesnt mean anyone cant enjoy his films for what they are though....
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Apr 02, 2009 8:36:08 AM CDT
I'm susprised Sommers didn't get credit for bringing Stuart Beat
by meyer11b
Great writer and he was the fan pic for a dream writer after the stupid "Action Man" verson of Joe.
Does anyone know if the whole Belgium thing has been excised? I'll take a force that "answers to no one" over one that "answers to Brussels" -
work. What has he done? Iv heard that the script is actually quite good, and a major improvement over the action man crappy script of a few years ago. Thats partly why i wonder if we might be pleasantly suprised by this movie. Sommers useally writes his own movies right? So im wondering if he has a good script if he can make a good movie?
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Larry Hama...
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when it was called "Megaforce".
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than the toys (wikyd awesome) and cartoon (also cool in it's own 'no one dies from the lasers' kinda way)...but the comics had real drama, real character development, death and bullets..THATS what this film should based on.
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like larry hama's marvel comic writing genius at work here....sadly.
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and knowing is half the battle, can't believe no one threw this in yet, haha.
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this one doesn't make my ballz tingle.
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We're quickly approaching the 8 month mark on the Star Wars script contest. Just pick a name out of a hat at this point.
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Maybe it is time for AICN to have a reviewer who enjoys these types of movies to review them. How can you get any sense of how a movie will appeal to the average film-goer, when you don't have any on staff to review them? That's why I always go and see a movie I am interested in no matter what the reviews are here because I know they do not speak for people like me.
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one like Quint, he does nt really enjoy most genre fare, so why send him to cover this stuff? I have no idea if the footage is any good or not, becos i sure as shit cant trust Quint's assessment...
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