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Here's A Script Review Of Platinum Dunes' NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET Remake...
SPOILER ALERT !!
Merrick here...
My guys over at Latino Review have posted a magical, embed-o-matic review of the NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET remake script.
I like this embed stuff they're doing - they've refined it a lot since the last go-round. Slick graphics and pretty color = hypnotized Merrick (it really doesn't take much).
You can find it HERE, or watch it below...
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Why not? He´s not THAT old to reprise the role.
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I hope that didn't ruin it for all you 12-year-olds out there.
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Just saying... Webmasters be aware that you're missing out on a lot of punters...
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Still can't understand where all the praise for that movie comes from. Have our standards sunk that low?
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freakin annoying
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These remakes are about trying to spend very little and getting a huge return on investment. Still, Freddy is under a bunch of makeup and Englund could play him. My only concern is that people root for Freddy. He is a little too silly. I rewatched the original, and it is actually pretty good, as is New Nightmare (the only two I own on DVD). If they do a reboot, they need to make him terrifying and make him a proper villan. I still say they should cast Tony Todd. The idea of Tony Todd as this child molesting killer is pretty frightening, and it might bring out the old-school horror crowd.
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Make it to where Freddy isn't a molester so he is an anti-hero, then he has to end up fighting Jason in another VS movie and he ends up winning b/c he is the "good" guy.Hollywood, I want my percentage when you come around to this idea in 5 to 10 years.
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is the candy man. thats where he belongs, that's where he stays. that's like shatner playing vader. no englund, no go, imho.
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Not that I think it's a bad idea, but did you see him on 24 this season? He's not aging so well.
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Would be in massive makeup for Freddy. And as far as him as the Candyman, the latest word on the remake is that the new Candyman will be white, which destroys his backstory.
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That's a little short for a movie.
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...they want to cast young so they can try and make one of these, then 10 needless sequels only to have someone with respect for the 'source' material (in this case, the original remake) try and bring it back to it's 'roots.' I love using quotations.
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not sure if it always applies but i once heard each page of a script should equal about 1min of the movie so if this is the case, movie would be 1hr40 which is typical for horror and longer than most of the Elm Street movies.
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Mar 25, 2009 3:36:24 PM CDT
UNLESS CHRIS CUNNINGHAM'S DIRECTING I'M NOT INTERESTED....
by thefuckingcreepythinman
I'm saying that as a lifelong fan of A Nightmare on Elm Street.
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and i kinda like the idea of him getting revenge because he kids lied....i just prefer remakes to really change shit. after friday the 13th part 12 last month I would rather see big changes then just lazy retellings of the same old schtick.
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1hr50mins...oopsies, and yeah thats pretty long for horror, if that theory still applies.
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Sounds like a pretty interesting script.
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Fuck it.
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...please make this shit flop, very badly. Career-destruction badly. You owe the world that, supernatural forces. You allowed the Texas Chainsaw and Friday the 13th remakes to make money, at least make up for it now.
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Fun way to present a script review. As for a remake of A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET, well...why not? I don't think the original can be improved upon, but it would be nice to see the mythology retrieved from the wastebasket of cheesy mediocrity that was FREDDY VS. JASON.
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Pathfinder is a shitty shit movie.
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Mar 25, 2009 3:41:58 PM CDT
Knuckleduster, TODAY'S YOUTH HAVE NO STANDARDS!!!
by thefuckingcreepythinman
I'm only 30 and the little fucking morons today couldn't watch the original Fiday the 13th, Dawn of the Dead of Texas Chainsaw because they're so fucking riddled with ADD that they can't absorb anything without MTV style editing and lighting. The Frida the 13th remake was fucking shit. If you got rid of the name Crystal lake, the name Jason Voohrees and the hockey mask it could have been any other fucking generic piece of shit slasher film. People talk shit about those movies but, hey, it's been almost 30 years since the first and we're still talking about these movies. Do you think that anyone will give two fucks about the Saw films in ten years? Not fucking likely but we'll still be watching Friday the 13th!
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I´m pretty sure Englund would do play Freddy again if asked to, just for the fun of it and a couple of lunch tickets. Englund´s paycheck is not a problem, they just want everything to be cool, coooler, kwel, everything is cool nowadays, Englund is too 80s.
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Why do they have to make the characters of today's horror such cliches? The Goth chick, The Bloger, The swim team captian, the cheerleader...or whatever. Part of the charm of the Original was that the characters looked like they actually went to school with you. They weren't WB teens, High School Musical, stereo-types. The new Friday the 13th was dumb, G. I. Joe will suck balls, and this remake is going to suck as well. Sorry, just speaking the truth people.
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NOT INTERESTED
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Looks good!
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Rob Zombie's Halloween was diarrhea mixed with vomit mixed with AIDS infected semen. FT13th was almost as bad. The Texas Chainsaw remake completely missed the point. They're all pointless. If you like them you're a horrible person and shouldn't be allowed to vote, drive, breed, or breath.
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it would actually be kinda interesting if Freddy was actually INNOCENT of the molestation. Now that's got me curious to see this fucker.
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...that came up with this one?
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Freddy IS a child molester. He doesn't need "righteous revenge" to come back and haunt the dreams of the kids. He's the bogeyman. He's the creepy local legend everyone talks about who actually surfaces. That's freddy. Not some nice guy who liked kids and gets the shaft. L-A-M-E.
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Way to completely neuter a character and make him devoid of personality. I don't want gore and guts with a Nightmare remake (I dont want a remake at all, actually), but what makes NOES special is the FUCKING CHARACTER, the PERSONALITY of Freddy. And while I like the idea of Freddy possibly being setup by the kids, I don't like having the kids be grown up 18 year olds. I think the first film worked better when these teenagers were "innocent" in regards to Freddy's death, and they were paying for the sins of their parents. It was far scarier that way. But back to the title of this post: No darkly comic Freddy playing cat to the teenagers' mouse? FUCK THAT.
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That boring review, or the boring voice reading it with zero charisma, or the boring idea of a Freddy Krueger played by some other actor who isn't Robert Englund.
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Gonna age badly though. I mean Guitar hero?
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rather just read the transcript. seriously.
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And if that doesn't work, at least we'll get a very gory "courtroom drama!"
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nostalgia is a blurry window. I watched the first 2 Friday the 13th movies recently for the first time, and, umm, they were fun, but they werent THAT good. Its ok to remake pop movies. Now if they start remaking Braveheart, or Casablanca, thats different.
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jeffrey coombs for the lawyer!
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I'll pass.
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...cause I don't have volume on my work cpu, but I always liked the idea of J Depp coming back as an adult in the new sequel. Guess that is not going to happen.
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they've never done a horror movie... Just thinking.
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Not the script itself. I didn't bother with the review because it was a freaking video that kept buffering and I really just wanted to get to the freaking bottom line.
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I can't imagine this even touching the originals.
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I don't want to listen to somebody read with little to no inflection - to hell with pretty moving pictures. Give me text any day. I say make Freddy scarier, keep Englund, keep the mythos intact.
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...today.
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Mar 25, 2009 4:54:59 PM CDT
MARK MY WORDS they'll get Jackie Earle Haley to play Freddie
by professor_monster
It seems like an in the moment thing - and Plat Dunes is like a woman looking for the latest fashion be it good or bad.
Also - this Latino review clip plays like it was made in Mexico - all cheap with stilted english. I was halfway expecting to be asked if I wanted Oranges. -
I think I agree with D.Vader here... In that Freddy should speak. I understand that Freddys personality was a little too camp and theatrical at times in the original. However I think the idea of a murderers ghost invading dreams who has an actual personality (unlike most horror villains) could be done DIFFERENTLY and pulled off excellently with care and thought. Make him have a wild personality and a sarcastic sense of humour but make him seem real and unscripted. Could be awesome.I like a lot of the ideas here though. Freddy possibly being a scapegoat could be motivation for him. However, BACKSTORY is VERY overrated these days. We don't need a backstory. Most of the time the reason we fall in love with these characters is because the BACKSTORY is left up to our imagination. I just despise those "aha!" moments where the teenagers gather around and say look guys its freddy, hes coming back for us cause we lied, now all we have to do is tell the truth and clear his name! Id rather it just be hinted at that his guilt was a lie.
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If that had been a written review I could have gotten through it in about 1/4 the time it took to listen to that dude read it. And I could have done it at work or on my iPhone.
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to direct. He did a bang up job with Psycho.even in jest, I threw up in my mouth, just a little
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Getting Haley for Freddy isn't a bad idea. Even if he is flavor du jour (which seems unlikely after Watchmen's flop.) He's a really good actor and seems to do well disappearing into roles.
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Refuse to see this uninspired dash for cash.
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Freddy barely spoke in the original, and that is why it was the only good one.
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get someone who actually understands and love horror to do these remakes? I mean take the Hills Have Eyes remake, which in my opinion was an ok remake and retained the spirit of the original...WHY? because Wes Craven was involved in them. If someone is gonna remake shit at least have someone remotely connected with the oriiginal involved. Craven did the same with LHOTL as well. But look at the Jonh Carpenter remakes. He has no involvement. Why be a part of something that will never touch your original anyway. Fans will know what the classic is and what the pile of shit is. JC will take his cash from a remake but why bother with it. They wanna remake it and fuck it up then they can suffer fans wrath. But back to the first thing I said. At least get someone who loves horror. Find a director who has done something good in the horror genre and let them do the remake. At least it will be in the hands of someone who understands and likes horror and ain't in it for the cash. That way they could show some fucking respect for us fans and still get the reamke monet they crave....cash whores that they are. And shit like not having Englund in the flick or not being true to the spirit of the flick is a kick right in the ballsack. You want us to get behind a remake then give us something....shit throw us a bone, a scrap of something. Show us you get it Hollywood.
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up there...ranting makes me make mistakes. I meant to say they can still get the remake money they crave*. Ahhh there I make sense now....or do I?, ha
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Directed by Chris Cunningham and staring Jackie Earle Haley as Freddy Kruger? Sign me up! *unfortunately, Hollywood is never this cool.
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Not impressed by the story and characters. No wisecracks is a good thing, but BOOGEYMEN DON'T NEED BACKSTORIES!!! At least nothing more than was discussed in the original movie, which wasn't much. Gonna skip this one.
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So engaging and full of energy!
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I'd disagree. Freddy did more than barely speak in the first film, and he still had a wicked sense of humor. This review isn't very clear on that particular topic, other than saying he "hardly" speaks, which to me sounds like they're making him into a mute killer in the vein of Myers, Jason, and Leatherface. Now if the narrator believes that Freddy hardly spoke in the first film too, then I'd feel better. Compared to sequels, he did hardly speak. But when I hear the words "Hardly speaks", I imagine something like one line of dialogue with each kill, or no dialogue at all. That's not how I like my Freddy. And if the idea is that Freddy is getting revenge on the kids who outted him, I think he would speak a lot. Especially since he had a relationship with them many years ago.
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Mar 25, 2009 5:26:15 PM CDT
CENOBITE - A CUNNINGHAM/HALEY NOES WOULD GET MY ASS IN THE THEAT
by thefuckingcreepythinman
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Yes.
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...especially the ambiguity of wether Freddy is a molester or scapegoat for parental abuse.
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It's cool they're going with the Freddy is innocent path, just the other day I was thinking that would be a neat twist for a reboot.
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I think what they are trying to do, is make the audience wonder if he really did torture the kids or if the kids are making it up. Then, towards the end of the movie, they reveal that he really did do the notorious things and there we have freddy.
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If they had somebody serious trying to do this I might not be against it, but if the words "goth chick" are actually in the script I think we got a problem.
That said, I do sort of like the idea that Freddy might have been set up. That's something new at least.
misc. notes:
a. Freddy didn't talk much until part 2, and I would be mad if he did talk too much in a remake.
b. Good call, they'll go with Jackie Earle Haley, although that doesn't fit the description of him being handsome. On second thought, this is also a Platinum Dunes picture, which means he will be 7 feet tall and have long hair and muscles and run really fast.
c. I hate this video trend. The whole point of browsing the internet is that we know how to read. If we wanted to sit and watch videos we still got a TV. It seems to me like it misses the point of the medium, like that DVD where the guy reads the watchmen comic books to you in different voices. On the positive side, it was kind of cool how it loaded wrong and the dude sounded like a weird robot doing experimental electronic music in front of an out of sync slide show about Freddy. -
There is literally nothing they can do to make this a good idea. Yeah, I'd love to see Chris Cunningham or Tarsem (I actually dug the visuals in THE CELL) direct Jackie Earle Haley as Freddie Krueger, but these Hollywood types are fuckwits, and such coolness will never happen. It'll be fucking Chris Pine in a movie by Brett Fuckner with a script by Stephen Sommers in a CG-drenched fucking abhorrence that makes Van Helsing look like Citizen Kane.
We're not going far enough on this, people. Don't just fucking boycott this shit - everyone on these TBs should actively beat the shit out of any kid who pays to see this shit, or any other remake. Maybe it'll work. Fuck, at this point, we'll be watching NOES cartoons on fucking Cartoon Network inside of five years.
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So instead of fearing for these poor innocents being slaughtered by a vengeful dream demon for something THEY HAD FUCK ALL TO DO WITH, we get a bunch of arrogant OC type fuckbuddies who DID do wrong against Krueger by lying about him to get him killed - therefore getting US to side with FREDDY when he gives the little lying bastards what's fucking due to them!
ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS?!?
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He's definitly more handsom than Jackie Earl Haley (who would be a good choice as well). Knepper was T-Bag on Prison Break and the villian of Transporter 3 (just to save you some time looking it up).
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a big Kruger fan, and the words "goth chick" and "guitar hero" have me quite concerned. They better cast some hot bitches, that HAVEN'T been on a shitty TV show. All comes down to who they cast as Freddy i guess...
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Yes, how very fucking meta. It was a shit idea back in the 80s and 90s when computer magazines and heavy metal mags used to try it, and it sure as shit is a fucking dumb idea now, too.
This is a fucking text site. Give us text interviews, or I do what I'm doing right now and read the posts to get an impression of what is being said, because I DON'T FUCKING CARE ENOUGH TO WATCH SOME SHITTY FUCKING VIDEO! WRITE THAT SHIT DOWN!!!
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Mar 25, 2009 6:10:04 PM CDT
Cunningham would be awesom but Bayer is an intiguing choice
by the_genteel_gentile
Samuel Bayer has done some very intesting short-form work over many years. I'm curious to see how he'll do at feature length. But Chris Cunningham, Mark Romanek or Mark Pellington would have likely been better choices. I just hope Bayer doen't turn out to be another disappoinment like Marcus Nispel, I had such high hopes for Nispel based on some of his videos (Notorious BIG's Victory, Bush's Greedy Fly).
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It sounds like they should be a site who would review latino movies in spanish.
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Mar 25, 2009 6:11:02 PM CDT
I don't like the idea of Freddy being potentially a victim......
by crackerfarmboy
Freddy is one the only PURE evil villains in slasherdom. I don't like the concept of him perhaps being a "victim" of kid's lies. Freddy needs to be pure evil and vicious. Jason is somewhat sympathetic what with him being retarded, disfigured, and a momma's boy. Freddy is NOT sympathetic at all. I hope it's all a mirage. I liked the Friday the 13th remake, but it certainly wasn't perfect.
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on Freddy being innnocent or guilty, but the idea of the actions of the parents, being repaid by punishing their children. And the parents are in such denial that they don't want to believe in the existence of Freddy, despite their offspring being killed around them. Or drinking themselves into a forgetful stupor.
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I actually prefer the refinement of Freddy coming back to haunt his molestation victims. I called it ages ago that Nancy would now be a panda bear eye liner wearing My Chemical Romance fan though. As for the director...Well, its exactly what I expected. Like Nispel he can deliver on the beautiful decay level, and he's good at making his videos look like ads for Hot Topic. Pretty much exactly what you'd expect from a Platinum Dunes picture. Someone up there mentioned Gus Van Sant as a joke? Did you watch Paranoid Park? He'd be perfect. Larry Clark, Cunningham if you just want to deliver on scary mindfuck visuals that aren't solely reliant on slick photography and wallpaper peeling set dressing. Samuel Bayer as a director is more in line with Renny Harlin or Stephen Hopkins.
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Seriously, NOES was good and a couple of the sequels were fun even if they did lose sight of the direction of the original. But seriously, rebooting yet another horror franchise just won't work well. The old ones (NOES, F13, Halloween) worked well because they were low budget and had a gritty feeling to them. They were new and original and people flocked to see them. The old school fans still like the old ones. The new generation laughs at the mention of the old ones, can't stand watching them, and really don't dig the reboots as much as we did the originals.
The Saw franchise is popular today for a couple of reasons: It's different. It's innovative. It introduced a new concept and the first film was not this predictable thing that was done in the 80s over and over again. I only saw the first two and don't know who the others are, but I am sure it is getting "tired" now too...but the point is it became popular because it was original...not because it was familiar. Please Hollywood...more originality and less reboots! -
I can imagine all the parents all meeting round at cocktail partys and saying"well, last night I abused Karen..ooh she wasnt happy about that!" "I know, Ive been abusing little Glen for months now and he keeps crying...say, what if this gets reported to the police? I mean a whole neighbourhood of children getting abused by their parents...we're going to need a scapegoat! Hey, we'll get them to say it was that gardener guy they like...that'll cover my tracks! So, you want to come round and molest MY kids tommorrow as a thank you for last week?" I mean one family is believable, but a bunch of kids getting abused by their parents and all deciding to blame Freddy? Im assuing its written with more sense than that...but no matter how much optimism you throw at it...it is a platinum dunes remake. thats all you need to know.
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No, your idea of Elm St depends on the audiences being intelligent and possessing the ability to follow a coherent narrative, not to mention complex storytelling that relies on the gradual reveal of the parents being the REAL mosnters - my favourite line in the first movie being "You don't have to be afraid any more, baby. Freddy's dead because Mommy killed him."
This movie is made for ADD riddled brats who have no concept of subtlety, narrative, nuance, or of a more complex subtext played out in the back of a movie. This will be like one long Green Day video with a sympathetic Freddy goofing along in the foreground, occasionally killing someone in a SAW-stylee.
Basically, forget all that great backstory in NOES where the parents are the real villains for burning a child molester alive rather than getting him arrested and imprisoned. It's too smart and reasonable. And where can you sell these KEEEEEWWWLL figures and T-shirts and books and shit based on an intelligent subtext? Nope - DUMB THAT SHIT DOWN AND SELL, SELL, SEEEELLLLL!!!!! -
...The first SAW was fun. Cute idea, well done. The second was a goofy, large horror film. But boy oh boy, you should see the following sequals. I'm not the most morally upstanding dude in the world, but even I'm fucking sickened by the ethnical degenaracy of the SAW sequals. They're fucking sickening on an intellectual level, and on a film production level they are so ridiculously poorly made and cheap you really, really wonder how people could justify to themselves buying a ticket to see it on the big screen.
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You should hit wikipedia and look up the McMartin case or any number of Satanic Ritual Abuse hoo ha's of the 80's. The shit you described wouldn't have been outlandish enough for the media and press to go crazy about.
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"Basically, forget all that great backstory in NOES where the parents are the real villains for burning a child molester alive rather than getting him arrested and imprisoned." Um, were you paying attention? That IS in the new movie. Only with the ambiguity of wether Freddy did it or not. I'm guessing he did. Also, the first go through was written by Wesley Strick, so if anything I'm guessing he smartened up the original film (his Cape Fear rework was vastly superior to the original) but you're right in that its platinum dunes, and I'm sure they rewrote it to make it more...well, shit.
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That while I've seen every F13 movie, I don't think I've seen all the NOESs (my mind blanks on #s 4 and 5), but from the ones I've seen the only two I really liked was the first and New Nightmare, so I'm not entirely against this if it comes out alright...Of course I had an iota of hope for Zombie's Halloween, and I must admit I wasn't that impressed by it... oh well, there is always beer to make movies better and less memorable.
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I hate the video shit too, takes too long to watch it when I can read the damn thing in 2 mins. I don't know about this remake...sounds like mediocre crap, the original, so far as I'm concerned, is one of the greatest horror movies EVER. It's brilliant stuff and say what you will about Craven, but he did a ridiculous job on that one. Far as I'm concerned it's right up there with The Evil Dead, TCM and Night of the Living Dead.
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Mar 25, 2009 6:58:01 PM CDT
I kinda like the anti-hero approach . . .
by adiehardfanwithalethalweapon
. . . that'll likely be the most orginal thing about this remake. It'd sure as hell make me feel better when I go out and buy a Freddy action figure. lol
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Only that it would help create the monster, but I couldn't see him having a wicked streak if he was set up, it wouldn't make sense.
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I open this story in a new tab and like 10 seconds later I heard the music. I have like 20 tabs open and was trying to figure out what fucking ad was playing fucking music, not realizing that this was an embedded video. Given that my computer is old as shit the shit was all jumpy. Finally realized where it was coming from, fucking technology.
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After his great performance as Rorschach, this guy needs to break through. As for the Platinum Dunes remakes, only the Texas Chainsaw Massacre was worth it so far. And not just for Jessica Biel's sweaty ass in tight jeans. It was stylish, exciting, atmospheric and Leatherface was a beast. Not a transexual fag dressed squealing like a pig.
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JEH has played pervert before. The goth chick angle sucks but I like the "was he set up" device. Tom Jane could bring the nastiness and still get some sympathy, I think. And it's not like he's got anything else going on.
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To come up with a new villain for a slasher film? I understand the thought of going with an established name because a fan base is already there, but are we really so creatively void that there are no writers left who can imagine something this menial? People have made this point ad naseum but is there more at work here than just laziness? i get the criticisms of todays youth but these have been thrown at every generation in the same way. I think it's more about the lack of creativity in our society opposed to todays youth being ADD. I would argue that in a small way this film represents a much bigger problem. The artists of days past find no place in this society and all we are left with is uncreative people re-imaging previous works with a sexy new twist that has no depth.
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I meant transvestite, not transexual. WTF.
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But I've got a major Jordana Brewster fetish. So there's that. But I think it TCM:TB was better executed and less gimmicky. Less showy camera moves and more visceral. Maybe If TCM had at least attempted to justify why we can't have some see through action with Jessica Biel's tank top. I mean, I'm just saying, what's up with that? Throw a dog a bone, Am I right here fellas? No high fives? Alright that's cool, guess it's JUST me. But also I really don't like Daniel Pearl's unmotivated overlighting on the Nispel remake either. Pearl's got a bad habit of that kind of cinematography, it's very visible and distracting in Pathfinder, Friday 13th, and AVP:Requiem too. I ask, is it any coincidence they were all very bad movies to boot?
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At the end, homes, Freddy is revealed to be Speedy Gonzales! Eeha!
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No there's a reboot.
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Mar 25, 2009 7:46:36 PM CDT
Jackie Earle Haley is a god amongst men
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
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It just won't be the same without Amanda Wyss and her silhouette in the see-through nightie when she was standing in front of the furnace. Gosh she was a hottie. She also made a wonderfully slutty vampire in 1988's "To Die For," not to be confused with the Nicole Kidman snoozer of the same title.
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I think the uber-DVD/BluRay edition will sell like mad though. They spent $150 mil on it, and it made back $160 mil before DVD sales and memorabilia. It isn't a huge hit, but it didn't lose money either.
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Mar 25, 2009 7:54:39 PM CDT
FIRST LOOK AT COBA IN GI JOE SORT OF
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
toy form. its shockingly awful. http://tinyurl.com/cd3dkp
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Justice!!! Best music ever to have autoplaying here! Freddy movie? Who cares?
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is what i meant because this fucking site doesnt have a fucking edit button but they can put time into fucking stupid scriptgirl shit
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Why get rid of Robert Englund as Freddie?? It seems like the stupedist idea in the world not to cast Englund who still can play the roll as Freddie.. I'm not watching this stupid remake..Come up with something original will ya..
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http://scriptshadow.blogspot.com/
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How had was it to just put him in a helmet with a reflecting glass face mask!?!? That looks cool and it's iconic. This looks ass. Oh well. This is what happens when hack costume designers try to reinvent the wheel.
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Christopher Meloni proved he can pull off evil on "OZ". Eric Dane is a pretty good actor who fits the "handsome" description. But he also has an odd evil look to him. Both would be good.
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Don't like the idea of a remake, but Chris Meloni would be a good Freddy.
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Sounds pretty fucking interesting! It's really making me look forward to this movie now more then ever! whoevers idea it was to leak information about the scrip really knows what they are doing!
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Mar 25, 2009 8:54:55 PM CDT
cobra commander got F'D IN THE A
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
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Yeah, its just you. Nispels chainsaw was slick and beautiful. Very well crafted. Plus Biel looked amazing. Begins was horrendous. Not just a terrible script, but just god awful amateruish direction. It was a a complete disaster. One of the shittiest movies I've seen in a cinema. Complete waste of Ermey too. But as you said, you do have a Brewster fetish, and I've found myself tolerating plenty of shitty movies just because the lead actress is hot. I also like Pearls photography. Yeah, its like Fiore's in that its a whole lot of slick theatrical lighting that doesn't make much sense in context, but it looks nice. I think it worked very well in Friday The 13th and TCM, but was horribly out of place in Pathfinder.
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29 years old, 5'9, can pull off "handsome" and creepy at the same time. look at HOSTAGE and 30 DAYS OF NIGHT. i think Haley is a bit too old (48) to "start" playing FREDDY. Englund is 62 by the way and Foster is 29. if they gave this reboot the series treatment, Foster would be able to wear the fedora for a lot longer. i am not supporting this movie though...
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Englund was only 37 when he first played Freddy
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...But recasting Englund does seem weird. He really IS freddy, and hes under make up mostly. I guess if handsome child molestors are being thrown out there, why not go with Aaron Eckhart. Why not bring Todd Solondz in to direct instead, too? Honestly though, if Johnny Depp won't do the role, I say just go back to Englund. Unless there is a reason he specifically needs to be younger.
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Good idea. The guy can definitely play a brutal, charismatic psycho. I laugh when I think of his late-arriving fans buying OZ DVDs because they like his L&O character, then seeing him running around naked alternating between fucking dudes and murdering dudes.
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Is that he can't act.
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we're in 1998.
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I can tell you for a fact that Strick's take on Nightmare never included the words "goth" or "jock." I shudder to think of how many other ways Eric Heisserer dumbed this movie down.
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Cunningham would be a GREAT choice to direct this!
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I'll pass and just watch the original again.
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Hes only been the fanboy pick since the news of a remake was announced. I don't know why, since everyone knows it would never, ever happen.
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Why "change" it? Come to think of it; why remake it at all? Freddy being a "good" guy is fucking retarded. The scariest element was the "sins of the father" bit. He's supposed to be EVIL. And Freddy wasn't campy at ALL in the original.
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Why would an innocent man make a glove with finger knives?
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And bring back Heather Langenkamp
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The only substitute for Englund that works in my mind.
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For bush pruning.
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I cannot accept anyone else in this role. Taking away his sardonic wit? Pssh, that's the best aspect of Freddy!!!! Leave the "no talking" to Jason and Michael. What a shame that the "new" generation of the audience aren't going to know Englund as Freddy.
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Just make it weird... The original had an uneasy, suspensful feel to it... You never really knew what was going on; if something was really happening or it wasn't. I want a dark, strange film here. Not some stylized, slick high-definition glossy Hollywood movie... Fuck that... Make it grimey...
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Mar 26, 2009 12:03:56 AM CDT
"YOUR GUYS" at Latino Review? You own them cause their Mexican?
by dannyglovers_dickblood
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Shout it out tio the rafters!
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Craven is doing a QnA at the Aero in Santa Monica this sunday night. Someone pester Craven. Demand that he cast Danny McBride as Freddy.
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I was going to post the same general rant against the video embeds, but I shyed away. You are speaking for a LOT of people.
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Hope these guys get it right and don't fuck with the mythology too much. I'm all for a quiet, menacing Krueger. Less camp more chills.
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and I dig Arachnophobia, I could do without "goth chick" and "guitar hero" however
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Yeah, finger knives are sharp, but they are supported by fingers that are generally sort of weak. So you go you slice off a part of the bush and you hit an unexpectedly large branch. What happens is that your finger knives get stuck partway through the bush and stick there. Meanwhile your goddamn HAND keeps on moving. And you end up snapping every goddamn finger in your hand.
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is dumb.
He's an abuser. the kids suffered the 'sins of our fathers" due to them taking the law into their own hands. Sigh. Finger blades are crossed that this isn't going to be fucked up. -
It fucking sucks. Nobody can look cool playing that game. I like it, and all, but I'm tired of writers trying to be hip and with the times by adding that into their movies. It makes the actors look retarded.
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That would be a better faceoff than the FREDDY VS. JASON movie.
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Not hacking away at limbs.
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Damn lack of edit function.
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Don't compare Daniel Pearl's unmotivated glaring white hot lights coming from nowhere outside in the dead of night to Mauro Fiore. Fiore's night time photography for Tears Of The Sun is some of my favorite in recent memory. I love Fiore, but Pearl goes to far, there's moments in all the films I mentioned where it looks like Day for Night, shot at 2 in the afternoon, with those big white blades of light coming through trees and such. Ahh, I hate that. Night should look dark. THe daytime stuff from Pathfinder and AVP: Requiem looked muddy and cheap to me. I like hard motivated light with dark deep black shadows (think Storaro's Kurtz's compound work for Apocaypse Now). Pearl has done some fine work though, other than the night stuff I thought TMC looked really good. He definitly did a better overal job on F13 I think, Pearls best work to me is still on the orginal Toby Hooper TCM. But Fiore is a master. At least Pearl's better than Simon Duggan, ahh his stuffs a disgrace! I can't believe Alex Proyas approves of this guy. Some of my favorite cinematographers are Robert Richardson, Vittorio Storaro, Roger Deakins, Dariusz Wolski, Greg Toland, Conrad Hall, John Toll, Vilmos Zsigmond, Janusz Kaminski, Dante Spinotti, Emmanuel Lubezki, Robert Elswitt, John Alcott, Nestor Almendros, Geoffrey Unsworth, Dean Semler, Jordon Cronenweth, Darius Khondji, Dion Beebe, John Mathieson, Amir Mokri, Mauro Fiore, Slawomir Idziak, Caleb Deschannel, John Schwartzman, Alex Thompson and Dean Cundey. That was just to give an idea of where I'm coming from and that I know a thing or two. Like I said Fiore is great, Pearl is faily mediocre at best. I can't wait to see what Mauro Fiore has done with Cameron for AVATAR. I got a feeling Fiore is about to own every cinematography award known to man for that one. At least he should if the 3D photography is half as ground breaking as it sounds.
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Did you mean Terry O'Quinn for Freddy? If so, Nispel notwithstanding(if he's even involved), the new NOES would be fucking epic. Have you seen The Stepfather? Goddamn I love Terry O'Quinn.
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Would never do it.
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Already-dead Hollywood devours its own rotten flesh as the economy collapses.
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I like the possibly innocent Freddie idea but it would be better if the kids were middle schoolers. I'm tired of monsters vs. teenagers
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why cant he be a straight up psychopathic child molester/murderer? The reason Freddy is so terrifying is because...what the fuck is scarier/creepier then a killer pedophile who can get you in your dreams??? nothing...please dont fuck it up PD. I do like that he works at a pre school, thats super fucked up. We'll see, this is much harder to get right then Friday, NOES actually was a good film, while really all of the f13 flicks were shit.(good shit, but shit none the less)
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Mar 26, 2009 2:47:04 AM CDT
also Freddy needs to talk alot or it aint a Freddy flick
by thedark0knight
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Fuck Hollywood up their stupid and well-fucked asses. How dare they remake Nightmare On Elmstreet?
Is there no end to the numbskull creativity that is prevalent in Hollywood these days?
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...as in: maybe the kids went all "Crucible"/"Children's Hour" on the dewd or one of the parents was diddling the kids and the kids pointed to an easy scapegoat (McMartin-esque), but maybe he really DID molest the kids, that could be an interesting dimension.
Like Capturing the Friedmans only with razor claws that git you in yer sleep.
I love the Nightmare Series, but it went so far over the top that by 4 you stopped being scared of Freddy and were rooting for the kills instead. Freddy's Dead had Tom and Roseanne Arnold for chrissakes. -
The TV series that was cranked-out 20 years ago. And--whoa--somebody open a window; stink-er-reeno. Scripts (included one that was directed by Englund) are non-existent, somebody scribbled it all on toilet paper while waitng in line for an SNL taping. My daily McDonald's menu is more expensive than the average, episodic budget of this filler. Englund milked the whole thing dry (spin-off franchises). But, behind-the-camera, he's one helluva nice guy (even taping exclusive "Freddy" phone messages for fanboys).
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I'm glad to see that I am not the only one who appreciates the hotness of Amanda Wyss. Though the nightie was hot, I prefer her only-a-shirt outfit in the alley. I swear, childhood crushes stick with you forever! Whoever is cast to play this character will likely be much hotter, but it won't be the same....
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Mar 26, 2009 6:25:57 AM CDT
There are rumours just starting to float round that Freddy Kruge
by thesquifster
......Christopher Heyerdahl.......?????????
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Mar 26, 2009 6:45:14 AM CDT
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by iamalice1
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An over-cooked MTV rehash of Nightmare on Elm Street. This guy must be a good film-maker if he can string together a few minutes worth of cool shots for a music montage. Fuck Sake.
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Fuck Latino Review, fuck this remake, fuck all of you who pay money for seeing this crap.
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Come on guys its not my choice but a little bird has hinted that he is being considered? Anyone else heard this? Does anyone think if this is the case he could pull it off?
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give Englund a cameo. That is the only way this will work. Unlike Michael Meyers, or Jason, Freddy has to do more than walke around and be quiet.
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Either this is a waste of time, my work pc is balls, or both.
Can you not just give us a normal text review?
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......oh come on, hey why not make him a presenter on the Disney Channel whilst your at it.....forgive me if i'm wrong but why the fuck mess with the back story......? The whole idea of Kruger was that he was a child murderer who apparently got away with it until local parents banded together and took justice into their own hands....."Sins of their fathers" and all that. So does that mean if he was innocent he comes back and becomes a murderer? Thus turning him into a child killer for revenge? Or will he invade their dreams with fluffy white clouds, pink elephants dressed as a teletubby begging for an apology?
Come on peeps! Get a Clue! -
No flash on my work computer. Vblogging is for people who are too lazy to write anything.
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Halloween and the original Nightmare. The sequels generally suck,(even though I would gladly watch the worst of them any time of day)but I am not AGAINST the idea of rebooting/reimagining, etc. I think a new Freddy movie with a new twist could be really cool, and thats from someone who loves NOES. Its better than a crappy sequel. Friday the 13th was ok...just didn't really bring too much more to the table.
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I loved your comment. Yeah, its not the kids that are idiots and desire watered down, recycled plots, its the generation of writers/producers/ etc that have come into their own. I went to a college for media arts with the very same type of people who churn out this bullshit. Its liek the new generation of Simpson writers don't know how to craft a fucking joke. Its the generation right after Gen X that seems devoid of any real talent.
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Atrocious, FUCK MICHAEL BAY. seriously
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I haven't read the script and I assume it's not very good but I don't think the "Freddy might be innocent" angle has to violate the subtext of the original. If he was innocent and was rightfully set free and the parents set him on fire then it's almost more fucked up, and he's still getting revenge on the kids for what their parents did. Also I bet at the end it turns out he was not innocent anyway. They probaly shouldn't make a movie about how kids are liars and shouldn't be trusted about who is touching them in their bathing suit area.
I wonder if making him explicitly a child molester takes some of the fun out of it though? I guess everybody seems to assume he is anyway, but they never said he was in the original series and I think it would've been pretty uncomfortable because he would've come up with ways to molest people in their dreams. Nobody wants to see that. -
I bet they will be drinking pepsi and eating Doritos too! We can't let Platinum Dunes keep remaking classic horror flicks. It tarnishes the legacy of what these movies used to be. Texas Chainsaw, Friday, Dawn of the... have all been remade, when will it end?
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Good point Vern, see where your coming from and desperately hope that he wasn't innocent either. If they made him a complete innocent who subsequently becomes evil due to the fact that he was murdered by the locals who believed him to be the child killer/molester wouldn't that kind of take away the point? Wouldn't it just become a ghost story then? We've seen countless of those movies were someone wrongfully dies and returns to get revenge on those who did them wrong......why would an innocent person commit murder and become the one thing he was innocent of? If thats the case I seriously think the story had better be top notch and extremely dark otherwise there's a real danger of it turning into another Ring/The Grudge type ghost flick.
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should be Michael Wincott. Its all in the fire scarred voice.
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....whoops forgot to say definately don't want to see any kind of molestation in the remake.....suggesting it subtly is far more scary....especially as we all know there are some sick and twisted peeps out there who I strongly suggest sign up for voluntary euthanasia, doesn't mean they should show it!!!!
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I worked with Mauro Fiore once a few years ago on a commercial. He was a nice guy.
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Yeah I meant Terry O'Quinn for Freddy, though they'd rather cast someone young, we all know that. Which sucks. But Quinn would dominate that role. I'd be cool with that. I'd also be cool with Haley.
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IVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR AGES NOW...DO IT!
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The original still holds up so well, and there is no way this can do anything but SUCK in comparison. I mean, TCM, Halloween, F13...all mediocre to weak, but this is so much worse. Sure to SUCK!
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Mar 26, 2009 10:25:37 AM CDT
This just in...Michael Bay to remake Casablanca starring Adam Sa
by herbwestaustin
with Megan Fox and some giant robots.
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Anyone else out think this guy could pull it of? Don't get me wrong rumour mills are usually just that but does anyone else have a take on this guy for the role?
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Mmmm maybe? Don't get me wrong he was truly disturbed in 30 Days of Night....but not entirly sure if he could pull off the deep twisted persona of Freddy......I mean when Heather Ledger was announced to be playing The Joker i thought it was inspirational, and definately the way to go......not quite sure I would get the same feeling from this guy! Reckon we could do with more peeps opinions on that one.....come on guys give us your verdicts on Ben Foster and Christopher Heyerdahl....you be kicking yourselves if any of these choices come to fruition!
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...than an epileptic in a gun fight.
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Especially in the sequels. It would be cool if the new one were actually scary as the premise was always a great one.
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Were supposed to be afraid of Freddy, but if the script is correct and they did set him up. i'll be rooting the whole time for him to take out the lil fuckers. Changes the whole experience, sounds like a big fat FAIL
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to be bad ass and frightening to scare the shit outa me.....Christian Bale!
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then cancel the whole fucking thing. Freddie Kruger may be a stand up comic by film 4 onwards, but in that first film, he was a fucking scary cunt. When i was 7 and i saw elm street, I felt like i was having a nightmare. There was never a monster the likes of Freddie Kruger. and they want to make him innocent?? side note: I actually thought Rob Zombie did superb work on Halloween. give nightmare to him. Imagine how grizzly that'd be.
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Mar 26, 2009 12:47:47 PM CDT
Freddy innocent? Kids lied? SLASH! HACK!! Well I guess he's guil
by missing dink
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...in Little Children. Nite Owl and Kate Winslet's boobs are also in it.
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He lures children with his spot on John Madden impression.
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Certainly in a recent empire interview he seemed less than enthusiastic. He certainly suggested that he'd be disappointed to see the flick and find that Freddy was still wearing the fedora and stripey jumper...
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So Fiore's not a jerk, that's good to hear. I've noticed most cinematographers are really nice, generous people. I met Guillermo Navaro at a ASC open house and he wasn't the most polite character I've ever run accross. Navaro and Ellen Kuras were hanging out together pretty much trying to avoid everyone. Maybe he's just an introvert though, or perhaps he was trying to get laid by showing Kuras what a hard ass he is. Pretty stupid move to act like you're a hot shot while in the same room as Richardson, Zsigmond, Burham, Deschanel, Daveau and Lubezki though. All of whom were being exceedingly nice and accessible (especially Chivo Lubezki, that guy's a saint). I left a message for you D.Vader, in the Brian Tyler/Star Trek talkback. You amaze (and frighten)me man, I can't remember what happened yesterday let alone...
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Really? They think that's a good idea? And even worse, what the fuck is up with all these goddamn back stories? Every Platinum Dunes film is 90 minutes of filling us in on backstorry. The original had five minutes of the stuff, spent the rest of the time actually telling me the fucking story, not setting it up. I don't need to see Freddy set up. I don't need to see Leatherface use his chainsaw for the first time. I don't need to see the murders in the Ammityville house. LOSE THE FUCKING BACKSTORY. It makes everything significantly less scary.
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One reason: some of the toys appended to the NIGHTMARE/ELM franchise were a tough sell as a result of Freddy's pedophile links (parents picketed the talking Freddy doll). Perhaps the producers of the ill-advised remake intend to renew a bit of licensing ($$$$$$$$$$$$); to avoid any risk of losing toy/video revenue, just transform Freddy into a wrongly-convicted sweetheart.
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Mar 26, 2009 3:04:27 PM CDT
Screw the cliche tongue and cheek Englund cameo as a therapist.
by banditdarville
He should just show up on screen wearing a wife beater and a cowboy hat before he turns to the 18 year old hotties and says: "My names Buck, and I LIKE TO FUCK!"
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I gotta say - I much prefer the originals back story and the unfolding mystery about Freddy. Though now we have seen it in the original film - would a carbon copy re-hash of the exact same plot be worth watching? Maybe not.
Personally I loved Nancy's fight to make her parents and the other "adults" listen to her about what was happening to her and her friends and I think this is what was so great about the original. The mystery surrounding Freddy was revealed through the movie and you got a real sense of the desperation she experienced in trying to get these people to take her seriously, right up to point where she has no other choice left but to take matters into her own hands.
The scenes with her mother were some of the best true "drama" I've seen in a horror movie if I'm honest.You got to see the Mother become completely unhinged at the idea of Freddy being back and I agree with the poster back up there who said that the theme of the Kids paying for the sins of their parents was a great angle in the original.
Freddy was MEANT to be pure evil. You - the viewer- were MEANT to feel and know that with every inch of your being. I just feel that adding any ambiguity to Freddy's motivations that could threaten to take that sense away is wrong for this movie and this villain.
I don't want Nancy Drew running around with a magnifying glass trying to investigate Freddy's poetntial innocence. Yes Vern - it would be fine to have Freddy be found guilty in the end anyway, but I can't help but worry that the film essentially suffers up to that point as a result of a plot thread like this. The mystery around who Freddy is was compelling and interesting enough without a "Freddy could be innocent" piece being thrown in.
And no - Freddy doesn't say that much in Film 1 - another good thing about the film. He speaks yes - but in very short chunks (compared to the clowny dumbass rants he goes off on in subsequent instalments). His appearances in the first film are also a lot creepier and more atmospheric vs. the rubbish 'comedy-sketch-ending-with-a-splat' format that followed in the other films. In fact - in a couple of scenes (the hanging in the prison cell, Tina's body in a body-bag being dragged along the school hall, the blender-bed) Freddy was barely even seen, which was far more menacing in my opinion.
I am a supporter of Freddy being played by someone else, though. I love love love Robert Englund but so much damage was done to his iteration of Freddy by the end - its almost impossible to re-start this gig with him as the main man now if you want to set something up to get back to the originals tone. I don't blame him, of course and I loved Freddy for what he was - and even what he became, but I am excited to see if a little of the ham gets removed and hopefully have some of the menace added back in. We'll see.
Like all the horror-movie remakes these days, I don't feel too precious about these properties that noone should ever remake them - however NOES is the one I hope they get right the most. If its a fail though - it doesn't take away from the original for me.
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Friday the 13th was awful, the Halloween remake was fucking stupid and this is gonna be a pile of rumpledump crap. "um, hey guys we should make a horror movie." "yeah great idea, I really like nightmare on elm street." "Oh yeah, lets remake it and put robert englund as a cameo in there, then no one can say that we don't have respect for the original." " yeah no one will know were molesting this property."
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Alot of people behind these remakes want to give an updated version. They tend to feel the originals look too dated. The special effects have improved. How about just re-releasing the originals and pulling a George Lucas by adding some new updated effects? Clive Barker said he felt Hellraiser suffered from dated looking effects. Why remake the entire classic movie when you can just go back in and clean it up? There is zero need to any film to be remade. It's all about the money and sadly opening weekend the kiddies will eat this shit up. In a age of DVD/Blu Ray remakes are needed even less. Friday The 13th was released on Blu Ray and looks far better than the awful remake.
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seriously.
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Englun already proved the ham his character endured in the sequels didn't hurt his talents of playing Creepy Freddy, see New Nightmare for proof. He just needs permission from the director. If Renny Harlin wants slapstick Freddy, we get bullshit. Craven wants child molester Freddy, we get gold.
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wrote the script for Doom? Is that supposed to make me want to see this movie? Doom was about the most mind numbingly awful film I'm ever seen (it takes a close second to AVPR). Yeah, I'll pass on this one thanks. Besides, it sounds like they've taken away all that made Freddy fun (like his comedic whit and backstory).
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So where's glove come from??? Does this one have rinestones on it? Does Krueger have a pet monkey named bubbles? Does he play spin the jesus juice? Seriously if Krueger is accused of touching children by the children ,and he wait for them to get teenaged and angsty before he kills them, and they all turn out to be a bunch of liars, and one of them is killed playing guitar hero and somehow krueger gets himself a claw glove, when he's really the good guy who was accussed.... Fuck this... A Jackmare On Palm Street. PD your so creative.. Hahahahaha another horror icon shafted in the ass!
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Backside of shirt
"I LIED"
small text under it
"Never Sleep Again"
Also the whole playing tag thing, so thats where the "one, two, freddys coming for you" shit comes from.
Oh so damn creative... I'm sitting here with a face trapped in pure shock and creative awe...
Dont play tag with Freddy unless you like being raped after your it. And the claws if he's innocent where do the claws come from did he wear plastic claws fingers while playing tag to make it more fun for the kids, who later accused him of rapage... Where are the parents??? guitar hero... oh man.. Sanp bracklets never showed up in the original nightmare films. Please don't. -
I don't give a shit.
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Making him a victim, gives them an excuse. I like it. The rest sounds pretty bad though.
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Mar 27, 2009 10:30:21 AM CDT
The kids lied. he just wears the glove so he can take a shit!
by jarjarmessiah
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Terry O'Quinn...one of the Losties has to hit it big by the time the show ends. I'm pretty sure since the first time I've heard anything about recasting Freddy, Ben Foster's name has been floating around. If it was Jackie Earle Haley, maybe Freddy can castrate himself on a playground with his own glove. Yeah...
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Hope he gets it. But the whole Freddy-was-set-up thing doesn't work for me. He's supposed to be a vile scumbag who is transformed into a super-empowered vile scumbag by the very people who think they're doing away with him.
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... but the films were pretty poor. I don;t think they can make this any worse than a lot of the dross they spewed out, especially in the sequals
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on the Prairie coming soon to a theater near you starring Michael Landon Jr. It's going to be a wild west showdown like you've never seen. Rated R. Half Pint will get drunk and get pregnant, then blow shit up.
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Scripts have nothing to do with the actual final film.
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And you'll never guess who they're replacing him with.
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