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Is Fox Prepping A Second WOLVERINE Film?? If So, Its Writer May Be...
Merrick here...
Adam sent in this message from Bradford international Film Festival in the UK (website HERE).
His message pretty much speaks for itself...
i'm currently working at the bradford international film festival in the UK, and tonight we had simon beaufoy, screenwriter of slumdog millionaire doing a screentalk.
anyway he dropped a bit of a scoop, hes been employed to write the script for "wolverine 2" a film
i didnt actually realise was even in the pipeline.
he commented that while he was apprehensive about the project (claiming to not even know what a wolverine was!) his agent pursuaded him to take it on.
he clarified that working on a film thats successor has yet to be finished was a strange experience, and one that he wasnt sure he was comfortable with. anyway, i read your site everyday and figured id send this interesting little tidbit over,
adam
Maybe Logan/Wolverine will get some badass new weapons in the second film. Maybe this could be one of them!
anyway he dropped a bit of a scoop, hes been employed to write the script for "wolverine 2" a film
i didnt actually realise was even in the pipeline.
he commented that while he was apprehensive about the project (claiming to not even know what a wolverine was!) his agent pursuaded him to take it on.
he clarified that working on a film thats successor has yet to be finished was a strange experience, and one that he wasnt sure he was comfortable with. anyway, i read your site everyday and figured id send this interesting little tidbit over,
adam
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i hope it doesnt suck
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Yep, thats who I want to write my sequal to Wolverine......
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but what the hell make 10 more, who needs money
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Oh right that line was actually in the X-men movie. ...
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Mar 25, 2009 10:13:22 AM CDT
I don't think the world would survive another Wolvie movie
by browncoatjedi
The first one looks so fucking horrible.
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... fuck.
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NOO! Not Magento! He's going to interior decorate the SHIT out of Wolverine.
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The answer is an emphatic yes
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They can finally add Bishop, The Reavers, Shatterstar, Cable, Longshot, The Acolytes, Feral, Fenris, Nimrod, Sunspot, Lockheed, The Phalanx, Puck, Corsair, Blockbuster, Gateway, Kazar, Boom Boom, and The Brood.
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WE HAVE TO GO BACK!! .....they're already back? My b.
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There is a good chance Fox has stuffed this one up. With too many characters and classic Fox interference.
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people who don't know what they are writing about=bad. Wolverine=doomed while at Fox.
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Jackman aint gettin' any younger!
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anybody really think FOX wont do a sequel?????
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Now he get afford a hoagie sandwich and watch the world implode to Wolvie 2:Even Wolvier.
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Shouldn't that be predecessor?
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Sounds like new wolverine movie I wanted to go see, the studio doesn't think its so great so they are leaking plans for a sequel, to show the fans they have confidence in this one.
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If anyone could pull it off Ian Mckellan can. Then after he humiliates Logan, Mags and Mystique will precede to talk shit about Logan behind his back the whole time giggling like school girls.
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knows anything. After watching these movies I'm not sure I even know what a Wolverine is.
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By the way, Who watched the Watchmen??? One weekend wonder...
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I'm pulling hard for it .Jackman is a great actor,perfect for the role, he just needs a proper film version of a Wolverine/Xmen movie. At the same time i'm scared of a sequel written by some one who has never even heard of the subject matter.
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ain't it obvious news
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X2 was pretty heavy on the Wolverine story.
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not good.
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It's that Hollywood logic.
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im an agent of chaossaáá
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wtf does it matter. There is gong to be X-Men/Wolverine movies till the end of time, and until Marvel reclaims the rights, they will all suck my 4 inch dick.
Also...screen writer doesnt need to know anything. Just look at what they did to Deadpool.
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This sounds like an inspiring, hopeful story of a mutant realizing his dreams.
Get the polish ready for that Oscar, Hugh. -
no really I am.
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Please...I leave AICN for three days and return to this slippery pile of poop? Grow up, people...
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are both like a frozen hotdog thawing on the counter. When u get around to eating it it may be good but its still a fucking hotdog.
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A person who attends a subpar school in Michigan.
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God Studios suck. "Hey, Simon Beaufoy just won an Oscar! Let's hire him to write a sequel to a film that isn't even out yet and centers on a character and rich history the writer knows absolutely nothing about! GENIUS!" "And since The Dark Knight made so much money, this needs to be dark and gritty! I'm BRILLIANT!" Rothman (who shall take the blame for everything) is a moron.
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Nothing against the screenwriter, but dude, if you take on this project, please watch read some comics and watch some movies.
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Any Marylanders will get that.
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....NOW.
BlahblahblahfoxsucksblahblahruinfranchisesblahblahX3suckedblahblahbrettratnerblahblahdeadpoolnomaskblahblah....
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Mar 25, 2009 11:00:50 AM CDT
I was at the Chewton Bunny Film Festival recently
by franklin t marmoset
Turns out, Ernest Hemingway has recently been cloned (using the same technology as Jurassic Park).He's hard at work on Elektra 2!
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It was about an aluminium siding salesman, so they "went another way" with it.
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... or is he a new Cylon?
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...was the disembodied head of William Shakespeare (in a jar). He's beavering away on a screenplay for Batgirl 2.He said he was nervous about writing to a sequel to a film that hasn't been made because no bugger is interested, but they're paying him in fish food so he's giving it his best shot.
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Slumdog was one of the best cast, told, filmed and scored films ever.
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about it not mattering if a screenwriter, directors etc., knows the material or not. In fact it's usually a source of pride to them ( Transformers/star trek) and the disdain is often written into the script to show just how little they are taking it seriously. So again, What's a Wolverine? "What's A Magneto?" "What do they call you — Wheels?" "Would you prefer yellow spandex?" clever clever stuff, man! I tell yah! So really there's no big difference in this thinking that there was when it was used in the other 3/4 Wolverine movies. Why are people shocked by this?
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Mar 25, 2009 11:32:30 AM CDT
I know it's the cool thing to bring on crew that have no ties to
by terry1978
But uh....that don't always pan out.
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the full monty, slumdog millionaire....and wolverine. yeah ok.
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As long as FOX is in charge it doesnt matter who's attached to the project because FOX makes the uncreative shitty decisions.
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Hire someone to write the sequel who has no earthly clue who Wolverine is. Close your eyes, aim at the dartboard, hope it hits. That's the way all franchise based movies should be made. Pure genius.
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That's exactly what they did when they made X-men.
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He's writting a sequel to Dead Man He said he had never heard of Dead Man but he can relate to the theme.He also said that he loves money so he thinks he can pull it off.
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(cue 'because it sucks' posts, natch.)
I saw it this weekend and i thought it was pretty damned good, and then it's hitting 24% on Rotten Tomatoes? I was surprised at the hatred towards it. people complained it was gloomy and took itself too serious?Its a Proyas movie! And they complained it was too far-fetched? It's a Proyas movie. Did anyone tell them what crazy bat-shit goes on in Dark City?
I'm still perplexed about the hate for the movie. It wasn't a masterpiece but people saying it's worse than 'The Happening'????
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Ever since the 'Speed racer' debacle. I was put off seeing that movie for over a year because it was so widely loathed by critics, yet it turned out to be a blast. And then there's this love fest for shit like Twilight. I feel so lost and confused!
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That cock shot clip was damn funny. I just woke up though.
Regarding Wolverine, you know what happens when you hire someone to write a movie about something they don't know anything about? A movie nobody wants to see. -
Obvious, predictable story. Bad acting, from both the kid, and Nicholas Cage. The is not even in the same ballpark as Dark City.
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Mar 25, 2009 12:29:22 PM CDT
i'm currently working at the bradford international film festiva
by themarinebiologist
and i've decided to never ever use capital letters.
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...a girl said to me "What's a Chewbacca?" when we were flinging a plush Chewie around the office. She has also asked what a bellend was...
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A bell-end is someone who knows what a Chewbacca is.
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like you need a shot in your fuckin mouth! Snoogins! Uhhhhhh can we wait for the first Wolverine before we even talk about the second. And cananyone answer WHY THE FUCK is Cyclops in a Wolverine prequel film? He didn't meet him till the first X-men movie, why would he be in the origins flick???? I think this movie might need a cockshot. What was that number again?
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You complain when hacks get to write your cherished comic books into movies... hacks who are lifelong fans (or pretend to be after reading one or two volumes).
And now you complain when an incredibly talented award winning writer gets attached to write the hell out of Wolverine?
Folks look past all the "cool" stuff in Slumdog because all they see is some foreign "talky" Oscar bait type movie.
If you take all that out you are left with a lot of really cool action scenes and a lot of genuine old school style adventure.
They dont do that type of adventure stuff anymore.
Of course a lot of that is the greatness of Danny Boyle as well, which begs to wonder... why not bring in Boyle as well to direct?
The guy has a history of writing movies with characters that are outsiders, characters that are alienated from their societies in a way.... works well for an X-Men or Wolverine story imo.
And if you are going to do the Japan arc of Wolverine... then you need a writer who knows how to work in a good love story and knows how to write women.
This writer has proven adept at penning a foreign land with such vivid realism and imagination... that we nearly forget that this is NOT a foreign film.
I much prefer a very talented writer who knows nothing about the story, than a hack who is or pretends to be a fanboy.
It must have taken a lot of reading for this writer to gather all of the information needed in order to make Slumdog feel so authentic. The guy obviously did a TON of research.
A good writer will devour all of the important documentation on the subject he will be writing about.
That should be more than enough to get him to write us a great Wolverine movie.
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Who's driving the boat on this? Someone on the inside is clearly trying to sabotage Jackman & Marvel comics. Seriously. This shit doesn't make sense.
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This will of course suck. The scenes that have been leaked so far have been horrible, bone claws, ridiculous origin, etc. I am pleased that unlike the Watchmen most here have the common sense to see the future with this one. Let's hope comic movies go away for a while and we can focus on another genre. The recent efforts with the exception of TDK have been awful. Watchmen is now the Ishtar of this generation, a tragically flawed movie forgotten two weeks after it's release while costing enough to feed a third world country for a year.
Stoooopider,
I saw Knowing, DLed this weekend, not bad. The problem with Cage is he has become almost to known and his movies are all starting to seem to much a like, every movie he is in seems to have some numerical code or something going on. Still I give the guy credit, he was recently seen on the town necking with Bree Olson and for that he gets a ton of respect from Dancingforever! -
Well said. I'll concede, but Beaufoy's lack of interest doesn't bode well. And from where Boyle's sitting, I really doubt he'd want to do a Wolverine sequel.
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Mar 25, 2009 1:20:07 PM CDT
Leave it to FOX to hire a writer thats clueless about wolverine.
by mike_d
pfft
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Mar 25, 2009 1:25:33 PM CDT
Is Fox Prepping A Second WOLVERINE Film?? If So, Its Writer May
by dead_geek
...Who really gives a sh*t!
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Mar 25, 2009 1:30:20 PM CDT
The problem with Cage is that he has become a punchline.
by dailysportspages
You cant take him as a serious action movie actor anymore.
From his silly array of bad hair pieces and ugly comb-overs to hide his rapidly receding/thinning hair... to his hamfisted line delivery and awkward speech patterns. The guy is a complete joke to movie viewers.
He is good in the dumb downed adventure type stories that are aimed for middle america. Like National Treasure for instance.
He is even better given good dramatic material where his overcooked acting seems a better match.
But in a genre movie... he is just too much of a caricature at this point.
He has Brendan Frasier disease.
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Its the only Wolverine story that needs to be told.
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Old Man Logan = Days of Futures Past
Whole new cast of characters around an older Wolverine.
Domino, Forge, Cable, Longshot, Sinister, Scalphunter, etc...
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That whore is looser than your bowels after drinking the water in Mexico
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Plot: One evening while fisting his young male lover, Wolverine accidentally springs his lethal daggers into said lovers anal canal while distracted watching Glen Beck on FoxNews. Enraged, Wolvy stalks the talking heads at Fox by waiting in the employees restroom for them. Once they enter to urinate, he springs forth his mighty claws of vengance and chops of their tiny penises. He then puts the dick in the anchors chair so that nobody will notice that they are missing. Soon, the entire Fox news lineup is replaced by dicks. Someone eventually notices, the public is appalled, and Wolvy saves the world from a roomfull o dicks. The End.
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the FIRST time I saw it and it was called MOTHMAN PROPHECIES! Knowing was like Mothman without Mark Pellington's ability to evoke a palpable sense of dread and plausible acting, + Fringe without any of the fun or intrigue of trying to solve the mystery, + Signs without M. Night's keen ability to inspire an audience to invest and care in the characters' emotional and spiritual jouneys. Or the way Shyamalan set's up an idea, plants some seeds, then lets it grow, until finally bringing all the elements together for a fully earned, realised and satisfying end. Instead of just having a bunch of stuff happen without fulling conditioning the audience in advance by cleverly peppering subtle concepts throughout so that when the large extravagant idea comes charging through unexpectedly at the end, they'll be prepared to accept it. Again I find myself disappointed my Alex Proyas. Further proof that Dark City was a fluke. Proyas' lack of insight on his commentary track for Dark City's DVD speaks to it's unintentional poignance. I sincerly watched the entire film wishing Pellington or Shyamalan had made it instead. Knowing fails where Contact succeded In having an intellegent, compelling discourse about the bluring, cohabitation and perception of Science vs. Faith. Even Lost has a much more aspiringly demanding discussion between those two dynamics.
There were some good moments but ultimately Knowing just left me cold. If your going to so boldly endeavor to suspend disbelief with such ambitiously grand ideas, you've gotta heed Tom Hanks' last words to Pvt. Ryan and "Earn this...earn it!" Knowing didn't. Thought I'd throw my hat into the ring along with my two cents, seeing as we don't have a proper discussion board for Knowing and the subject was brought up. Plus, I highly doubt we'll be seeing a sequel to Wolverine after this film completely crashes and burns. It really is best to get a big idea action inclined director for big idea action inclined films. -
Mar 25, 2009 1:55:29 PM CDT
Didnt everyone get upset that TDK writer hadnt read killing joke
by stooopider
And the world was going to end and the movie was going to suck. How can some HACK write a good BATMAN movie without reading the KI...oh wait, it kicked ass? Disregard.
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just don't pee your pants or anything, k?
My point was, I couldn't figure out the hate. Yeah I was suspending my belief about 1000ft from a tight rope, but the movie stuck in my head. Weird shiny pebbles, kids scratching numbers underneath beds with their fingernails, night scenes of forest animals on fire, planes exploding in mid-air, end of the world stuff and tripped-out alien angels. I mean, yeah it could have been better, but I enjoyed the damned movie. I liked the moodiness, the sombre colors, the inevitable 'we're fucked' vibe to it. As an atheist the end was creeping me out, but that kinda made it more interesting to me too. Anyway, I liked it, just couldn't figure out the hate.
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Seems just a strange thing to say. It's lilke saying Terminator 2 and Aliens were flukes for Cameron because True Lies was kinda gay. Makes no sense!
And any director that made The Crow and Dark City can;t be branded a 'fluke'. Anyway, i'm done defending Knowing.
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.. so I can forget about X-Men 3
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... now being WB's go-to guy for the Superman revamp. This is the dude who was responsible for (shudder) Batman and Robin.
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Point One:As someone above pointed out, it doesn't matter if the screenwriter has heard of the subject when approached as long as he/she does their research and then ensures their subsequent script remains true to the material.Point Two:FOX is the problem here, not the writer of Slumdog Millionaire. If movie making was a war, the guy running the studio would be a war criminal hunted by the UN. Fuck FOX.
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... are rumored to be the villains in Spider-Man 4. Carnage is just a knockoff of Venom. Just can't give up, huh Avi, you moron. Electro... well, didn't the movie version of Doctor Doom and every other villain on Heroes teach us that electric powers onscreen are lame?
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X-Men 4: The First Class
The Cure... was a lie.
Worthington wanted to develop a cure for his sons mutation, instead his scientists developed a Mutant Growth Hormone that accelerates the development of a persons x-gene mutation.
Sure the cure would seem to work initially, but that is only while the "cure" was working itself out through the mutants genes.
This of course, is the work of Dr Nathaniel Essex... better known as Sinister.
Xavier was able to telepathically send his consciousness to the comatose man on Muir Island, he will be cared for by Moira MacTaggart.
Wolverine visits Xaviers comatose body, and Xavier has a brief moment of clarity and speaks to Logan.
Without Xavier the X-Men are leaderless, the X-Men as a team are disbanded.
The School for Gifted Youngsters was initially overseen by Storm, the job proved to be more than she could handle. She has left to do humanitarian work in Africa.
Storm, along with Colossus and Wolverine are nowhere to be found, they have left the Mansion for various reasons.
The new headmistress of Xaviers Academy is the newly introduced Emma Frost.
Meanwhile the young students have formed themselves into competitive social and academic groups. The competition is fostered by some of the staff who like the fact that the kids are showing some fighting spirit.
The honeymoon is over rather quickly and mutants are once again seen as second class citizens by the majority of humanity. Hate groups are getting out of hand.
The Omegas who survived the Alcatraz battle have to go underground in order to survive. They are called Morlocks by the humans.
Callisto survived her electric encounter with Storm, except that it left her with a burned out eye. Psylocke was able to phase away into the shadows at the last possible moment before Phoenix killed Arclight and Kid Omega.
Gambit is introduced as the chief agent for Sinister.
His job is to collect persons of interest... one of those being a much more powerful and high flying (thanks to the cure) Rogue.
Gambit have an instant attraction to Rogue. Rogue rebukes him at every turn, but the more she rebukes him, the more its apparent that she is attracted to him as well. This attraction/antagonism thing continues throughout the movie... much to the chagrin of Iceman.
Another person to be collected is Havok, who Sinister wants to re-unite with Cyclops whose body Gambit has already collected previously.
Sinister orders him to take his Marauders (Scalphunter, Scrambler, Riptide, Blockbuster, Harpoon, and Vertigo) and bring back a special mutant living underground... but when he gets there the Marauders go in a killing spree.
The Morlock Massacre takes place, Sinisters plan to get rid of all of his previous failed experiments.
Yes, the Morlocks are for the most part his failed attempts at making powerful mutants. Most of these poor souls end up with debilitating or at best pointless powers. While few end up even being somewhat useful.
This New Class of X-Men have to suit up together for the first time and try to save the Morlocks.
While Gambit is a "villain" for most of the story, he helps the young X-Men at the most crucial moment and saves Rogues life.
During this battle, the hero Angel is trapped in an enclosed space, unable to fly away... his wings are eviscerated by a group of Marauders, Scalphunter doing the deed. They take him with them back to Sinister.
The Hellfire Club lurks in the background throughout, they have been searching for the Phoenix for years and believe the X-Men is their ticket to finding it.
Meanwhile Mystique has gathered a new Brotherhood... except this time working for the US government to help them search for Magneto.
She wants her revenge, and her new Brotherhood is dubbed Freedom Force.
It is her, Destiny, Avalanche, and Crimson Commando.
At the end of the movie Havok, Psylocke and Gambit have joined the new X-Men.
Psylocke being moved by the X-Men coming to her and the other Morlocks rescue, even after the bad things she has done in the past.
Gambit feels like *beep* for his part in the Morlock Massacre, plus he wants to go with Rogue :)
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X-Men 5: eXtinction
Fire, rubble, devastation, destruction and explosions all around.
The movie starts with a big battle scene against a sentinel, just like the start of X-Men: The Last Stand.
We see a shot of a broken down decrepit Statue of Liberty, and then a young mutant (Marrow) who is being chased down a street by a giant sentinel.
Wolverine then suddenly comes into frame... just like before, he is there to save the day and defeat the sentinel.
Except this Wolverine looks older, more lines in his face, a little bit of gray hair.
He isnt able to defeat the sentinel, just slow it down enough to get away with Marrow in tow.
This is no Danger Room exercise... this is the real thing, this is the future.
Its 20 Years in the future.
Xavier has been in a coma for nearly all of those years, only recently awoken to find North America under complete control by anti-mutant government forces.
Due to the devastation caused by the Phoenix Force in San Francisco as well as the work behind the scenes by Sinister and on the front page by Magneto... the US government went full bore with Project Wideawake.
Originally devised as a way to control all mutants, it instead led to the eventual near extinction of all mutantkind in only a few short years.
The entire island of Manhattan has been turned into a mutant internment camp patrolled by the sentinels, various other cities around the US have also suffered the same fate. Over the years the camps turned into places of death.
Sinister was using the mutants in the camps for his own experiments.
He would cast his Hunters out into the night to collect mutants and bring them to the labs where he would extract their genetic information before incinerating them.
Wolverine was not in Manhattan though, he broke INTO the internment camp he supposedly had once broken out of. One of the only known mutants to have escaped the camp.
We see a flashback of Wolverine. Its 6 months ago, living in Africa with an older 50 something year old Storm. (Angela Bassett)
He left Storm when he received a telepathic message from Xavier.
Xavier was awake from his coma and needed Wolverines help.
So off went Wolverine to help Xavier.
After the fight with the sentinel... Morrow takes Wolverine to find a group of rebel sentinel fighting mutants. These guys fight the sentinels in order to keep each other alive, as well as to rescue other mutants who have been captured and are on their way to slaughter.
Here he meets Bishop (late 20's), Cable (40's), Rogue (late 30's), Gambit (40's), Forge (50's), Domino (20's), Psylocke (late 30's), Vanisher (20's), and Shadowcat (mid 30's). They call themselves X-Force.
Wolverine knows the team well, after all he started it 10 years earlier when he rescued Bishop from one of the camps and trained him to be an X-Men... trained him to lead. That is why the young Bishop became the leader of the team 5 years ago when Wolverine escaped.
There are a lot of blind spots in Wolverines memory though.
And thats because Wolverine never really escaped.
The Wolverine escape was a myth that Bishop invented to mask the truth of what happened. Wolverine was captured and never heard from again.
Flashback to to Wolverines capture.
He was captured by Magneto and his Acolytes.
Acolytes: Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Polaris, Colossus, and Pyro.
Magneto is now sporting full on battle armor and a much younger visage.
Instead of being an aging senior citizen, he is a fully realized 40 year old man in his prime. (Ewan McGregor). Thanks to the "Cure" that had restored his powers and his youthful vitality.
The capture of Wolverine was well orchestrated, and helped by Sinister from behind the scenes.
In the flashback we see how Magneto simply wanted revenge on Wolverine for continually destroying his plans for ridding the world of Humans.
Magneto held Wolverine as chief responsible for the predicament in which Mutants found themselves.
We watch as Magneto rips the adamantium straight from inside Wolverines body, leaving Wolverine a crippled mess.
The event is so traumatic that it virtually erases large chunks of Wolverines memory.
His metal was given to Sinisters main servant Arcangel, who then took the adamantium to his master.
Back in the main timeline Wolverine tells Bishop that he needs to get to Xavier.
They all go to an underground bunker where Forge has the only functioning Cerebro computer left in the world. One he and Xavier worked on before Xavier was captured.
On the way there they pass by a mass grave of mutants, he reads the names of some of his old friends... Jubilee, Iceman, Beast, Nightcrawler, etc...
The X-Force has to break into the Sinister stronghold and bust Xavier out.
No easy task with all the Sentinels around and all.
One they rescue Xavier they run (Xavier runs too, Forge made him cyber legs) to the bunker so he can use Cerebro in order to contact his own comatose body back in "our" time in order to warn Wolverine not to abandon the X-Men, and to be the leader that they need in his absence.
And the last thing that he is able to tell him is that Cyclops and Jean Grey are not dead... that Sinister has them and that he must be stopped at all costs.
Xavier didnt travel in time.
With the help of Cerebro he was able to momentarily project his consciousness back in time ONLY because had had already done so with the comatose patient prior to his death at the hands of Phoenix.
A psychic bond still existed, through space and time even.
Now we are 18 years in the past and Wolverine and the rest of the X-Men must stop Sinister from whatever he is doing with Cyclops and Jean, as well as stop him from completing the Sentinels.
To this point Sinister had only been seen in his "normal" form, that of Dr Nathaniel Essex.
For the final battle he transforms into the Mr Sinister we all know.
And he has a new group of Marauders.
Yes, even Magneto is helping Sinister, as is the brainwashed Arcangel.
The X-Men are able to free Cylops from from Sinisters labs.
They expose Essex for who he really is and the President orders the Sentinel Program to cease.
Wolverine is left wondering if this was enough to change the future.
After the credits roll we get a flashforward.
We are back 20 years in the future, and and see Los Angeles is in ruins.
The camera then burns all they way across North America in a quick montage showing similar devastation all across the continent.
The camera reaches the Atlantic and stops at the well known pedestal for the Statue of Liberty.
The camera then quickly scrolls up to reveal the face of the statue.
Its not Lady Liberty.... its APOCALYPSE.
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...because Wolverine 1 is going to dive like a drunken lesbian.
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Mar 25, 2009 2:54:16 PM CDT
stooopider - No there definetly was was cool stuff in their
by the_genteel_gentile
I didn't HATE Knowing, but I felt it could have been so much better with a smarter script and better characters and acting. I just felt like discussing Knowing was more interesting than Wolverine. So I just figured I'd start a conversation since there's not a proper talkback for it. Not trying to jump on you at all buddy. I do plan on seeing Knowing again, because it did have some interesting things for sure. Here's the thing with Proyas, I think Dark City is a brilliant masterpiece, I've proselytized on that movie since the day it came out in theaters. The Crow is beautiful but flawed in some pretty basic areas, but I've always thought that was because they had to try and scrape together what they could to salvage it after Brandon Lee's death. But if you listen to Proyas commentary track, he seems completely unaware of what made Dark City strike a cord. Which leads me to conclude that perhaps it's poignance was unintentional. Everything he's done since Dark City has been a disappoinment. I'm convinced after seeing the overly color corrected, ugly, flat, soft, directonaless lighting of Simon Duggan on Garage Days, I Robot and now Knowing, that Dariusz Wolski was the true champion of The Crow and Dark City. Because visually those films are amazing. Everything Proyas has done without Wolski has looked pedestrian at best. I would very much be interested in seeing Proyas first film Spirits Of The Air, Gremlins Of The Clouds, but hasn't made it to DVD as of yet. I thought for sure Proyas was one of the "future of filmmaking" kind of geniuses after Dark City, but now I really do have to consider the very real possiblity that DC was merely a fluke. I only want Proyas to succeed, but Garage Days, I Robot and Knowing will not get it done. As far as Cameron goes, a wise man once said: "Any man can make a masterpiece, but only a master can make six." I read that quoted once on one of these boards, I don't know if it actually comes from somewhere, but it makes a lot of sense.
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...please tell me you're joking.Carnage? They can't do Carnage without telling the Venom story properly and, sorry, but grudgingly shoehorning twenty minutes worth of Venom into a Sandman movie does not constitute a story arc.Why can't these wankers realise that 'more' isn't 'better'? A Spider Man movie doesn't need two villains, especially not this one. Electro is a big enough baddie to hold the movie on his own.Go find their offices and give them a slap, Kid Z. You're nearer than I am...
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Mar 25, 2009 3:29:01 PM CDT
What a shock..he doesn't know shit about the character!!
by alienindisguise
I'm sick and tired of these fucking hacks being hired to handle classic characters and properties that don't know a damn thing about it. I don't give a fuck that he wrote a stupid insipid tale of a 3rd world douche trying to score a chick through a gameshow. Why the fuck don't they hire the best writers in the COMIC BOOK world!? That makes perfect sense but this further adds to the idiocy that is the filmmaking world.
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Mar 25, 2009 3:29:17 PM CDT
I'll reserve judgement til Wolverine 1...also...Cock Shot was la
by themark
Sorry, I have no love for spoof videos of MadTV quality.
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Mar 25, 2009 3:52:45 PM CDT
Liev Schrieber as Sabretooth is gonna be super fucking lame
by premature_enlightenment
agree w/dailysportspages rants/plot synopsis on furthering the franchise. those would prove much better
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Mar 25, 2009 3:56:14 PM CDT
Fox has to get a bailout to bring the entire cast back for X-MEN
by mrmysteryguest
...and I mean everybody!!! Halle Berry, Famke Janssen, Patrick Stewart, James Marsden, Jackman, Anna Paquin, etc. etc. Then they probably have to find guys to play Cable, maybe Apocalypse; and this is all probably just to bring the franchise to a proper close.
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Really??? Is there NO one who knows the material that can write this??? I'm just convinced I need to go apply for a studio exec job because NOT knowing jack fuck seems to be the primary qualification. I'm amazed a decent movie is ever made with these ass clowns running the cash.
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Mar 25, 2009 4:11:14 PM CDT
1-800-FUCK-FUCK-FUCK-FUCK-FUCK-FUCK-FUCK-FUCK-FUCK-FUCK-FUCK-FUC
by toilet_terror
The Shamwow guy has not convinced me to buy his product. But I would like him to star in Wolverine 2: Snikting in the Rain.
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That's not bad. In fact, I'd totally pay to see that. But then, I think this Wolverine movie looks like some over-the-top fun. I'm not going into with high expectations, so I should be ok. Looks like I may be the only one, tho...
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Can't believe I'm the first to type those words. Awesome. Also, This Just In: J.D.Salinger in talks to write Ghost Rider II. He says he's never heard of the character, but he's always wanted to work with Nic Cage.
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So far Wolverine looks like shit, but I think that fan build-up alone from the first 2 movies, will make this a breif hit, then fade into nothingness, like X3 did.
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one part Japan, one part Madripoor. Only a SMALL amount of mutants, make him the Samurai he was meant to be. Make it a character piece, where he explores a new aspect of his character with Mariko. And then turn him into Patch.
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...I've also heard casting rumours here in Australia - That Blair (McDonald?) who was Big Brother finalist and then went on to be in Neighbours has been rumoured to be looking at nabbing the role of... wait for it... Wolverines son.
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Honestly, as long as Fox makes money, Rothman can do whatever the fuck he wants. He can keep putting out shitty movies as soon as the idiot masses keep buying tickets to see his movies.
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First they hire the hack who writes that drivel Gossip Girl to do an Xmen movie, and now this??? FUCK ME. Maybe when Im in my 50s Ill finally see this shit done properly.
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Now you are fucking talking. We need some SINISTER AND APOCALYPSE up in this bitch.
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Thanks for the video Merrick. Cracked me up.
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teh suk.
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Mar 25, 2009 7:34:15 PM CDT
have some StuntCasting: Bale as Wolvie, Jackman as Batman
by george newman
i had a silly idea the other night
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Fucking crap ass X3 ruined everything!
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I can't believe I am going to watch this stupid crap of a movie..Only to wish I never spent the money..
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Im more concerned with the 1st Wolverine movie before we get carried away with a guy whose sole purpose is to adapt a screenplay. This first movie looks to me just like X-Men 3 did. Its good enough to cut a cool trailer, but awful when viewed in its full context. Gambit looks lame, Van Wilder should not be in this movie, and it just looks like the story is going to be a mess. I wish I was wrong about this, but I know deep down that Im right about this pile of dogshit.
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With all the shit right and wrong the studio takes from fans they would never in a million years hire someone who doesn't know who the character is. (Bork, never end a sentence in a preposition). I digress, It just would not happen. Imagine this guy at Comic Con admitting he doesn't know who Wolverine is. Jeez, my grandmother knows Wolvie! It's complete bullshit.
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Beaufoy is a great screenwriter but not write for this. Why would Fox court a guy who doesn't know the character, and likely doesn't care for him either? It'll wind up as a crappy, cynical script. But that's what you get from Fox: CRAP, from the studio that brought you Marley & Me and Paul Blart. Hooray!
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'Write' should be 'right'.
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Another "true" story...
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Havent seen X3 in a while but nobody died... Xavier is alive after the credits and you never see Cyclops or Jean Grey's dead body... They just vanish in the beginning... Whose to say they're werent just teleported somewhere... The next movie should have them re-appear in Sinister's lab...
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I still think Jean Grey is alive too tho...
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The writer of the movie does not even remotely know who or what he is writing about! What is a Wolverine?!? Bwahahahahaha!!!Fuck you, Fox and damn you to hell!
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stuff to fund his pet projects. His cartoon GI JOE Resolute will beat the live-actioner senseless.
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Mar 26, 2009 2:51:37 AM CDT
They could so continue the X-films without most of the present c
by dailysportspages
All you really need is Wolverine and a few key people, and you got X-Men.
Throw in a bunch of cheap new faces for the new characters.
For Wolverine 2 they can dump nearly everyone from the first Wolverine movie.
Hire all new people for the Japan story.
Start if off by showing Wolverine slowly dying in the snow with a samurai sword in his heart.
A voice in his head asking him if he wants to live, if he wants to get revenge for those who have killed him.
He says yes.
That voice... is Sinister.
For me Sinister is like the Old Testaments Lucifer.
The tempting angel/devil who tempts you with knowledge that you seek, tempts you with fruits that you want, tempts you with anything and everything you desire.
I would drop him in and out of stories simply so he could come in and lay his little seeds for the future.
Maybe he gives Logan a glimpse of his past, the past that he no longer remembers.
Maybe he saves his life and in turn now Logan is indebted to him out of his new Samurai code sense of honor.
Maybe its Sinister who put Wolverines life on the line in the first place... just so he could then save it himself.
You could even drop in a huge expansive dream sequence.
Basically a "life flashing before my eyes" type of sequence... the kind that folks are supposed to have right before they die.
You can do all sorts of things and then explain it all by having it be the work of Sinister.
I would like to see some sort of story, be it shown as its happening, as a memory, or as a dream sequence, of...
Have Wolverine trying to escape his past by living off the grid, in the pacific northwest wilderness of Canada, then eventually Alaska.
Have Sabretooth find him in Alaska.
Bring in the same actor for Sabretooth, except this time show him just a little bit hairier... more feral.
Have Wolverine befriend a young girl there in Alaska, or more likely the young girl befriends him.
Sure, call her Rose... doesnt have to be the same Rose as the comic, but its a nice way to tie the events together.
Have Wolverine finally get the upper hand in battle against Sabretooth.
And as Wolverine pops his adamantium claws in the middle of town (the town didnt know he was a mutant) in order to plunge them into Sabretooth's gut for the kill... have Rose jump in front of Wolverine to try and stop him from killing.
Unfortunately Wolverine was in his rage mode and didnt notice Rose... and instead of killing Sabretooth, he kills Rose.
As he grabs Rose in tears.... Sabretooth makes his escape.
Wolverine buries young Rose and leaves Alaska... more like chased out by the locals who give him the Frankenstein treatment.
Wolverine jumps into a Russian fishing boat on its way back home to the Soviet Union.
That sets up Omega Red of course :)
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Bub, enough talk. Have at you!
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In dreamland when Marvel get this property back we might see that. With Fox, no chance at all.
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Mar 26, 2009 6:46:32 AM CDT
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by iamalice1
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Yep those demographics are perfectly lined up, makes perfect sense.
The people that would love a Danny Boyle movie set in India, will flock to a comic book movies about a guy with knives in his hand.....
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I piss in your spamtastic mouth.
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http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/03/wolverine-2-wil.html (remove spaces)
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HAHAHAHA
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I'm sure Harry doesn't mind being called a BYOTCH with all the page hits he'll get.
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Mar 26, 2009 8:39:05 AM CDT
Did Merrick's 15 year old son write this "Cool News"?
by leafar the lost
Maybe Wolverine: Origins II will reveal the evil character of The Rothman, whose main goal is to destroy every ounce of credibility that the character has.
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Yeah, works for me.
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That's 10 million over its production budget before DVD and Blu-Ray sales. Not to mention WATCHMEN is probably 1.5 times as long as X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE with an R rating.
Once the fanboys realize how badly Fox fucked up Deadpool in the film's climax, expect WOLVERINE's box office to go into a death spiral.
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Mar 26, 2009 3:43:54 PM CDT
"Once the fanboys realize how badly Fox fucked up Deadpool in th
by anakinsdiapers
".. expect WOLVERINE's box office to go into a death spiral." Because the particulars of frickin Deadpool is what's going to drive the ticket sales of Wolverine. That analysis, of course, assumes the diehard fans and not the general audience, are going to make or break that picture.
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Theaters get the other half. As of now, the studio has only made $80 million on Watchmen. A disappointment at best.
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We won't see any of the ideas you put forth on film. As fans, we can certainly appreciate the Dostoyevsky-epic-like quality of decades worth of stories, but sadly the film translations of these don't cut it because the powers that be simply won't make an epic film about him. They'll make 2-hour max, PG-13 action fare to max profit. X2 was arguably the closest to cannon and just thinking about all the potential wasted in X3 annoys me to no end. Nevertheless, unlike the FOX haters (who hate Tom Rothman as much as I do) I am going to see Wolverine and hope it does well enough so they can restore the potential of the franchise enough to reboot it a la The Incredible Hulk...put Wolverine on the road...have him hook up with Alpha Flight (or at the very least Dept. K). Have the Canadian govt. shield Wolvie and forgive his prior infractions, before he decides to strike out on his own (again). Show the dreaded reoccurance of tragedy in love with women like Silver Fox and Yuriko. In short, do the pre-X-men history of Wolverine and stay true to the cannon. Is that so terribly hard?
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you know you wanna see it, too.
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go see the flick, but I don't know what is influencing EW to write, "Furthermore, Fox is saying that no Wolverine 2 project is actively being developed. That's improbable, considering all the positive buzz around Wolverine." Where's this positive buzz at? I thought it were mostly people complaining here and there?
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Calling the first one a NEEDLESSLY LONG title when "Wolverine" would be just fine was already a sign that this could be a piece of shit. Its insulting. That's like calling a movie "the last son of krypton: superman" or "they're back: ghostbusters thr3eunion". Not being entertained by a film is one thing, but a film insulting me by its title alone is undescribably bad. If it weren't for Gambit and ryan reynolds (who we prolly won't see as deadpool much) I wouldn't give a shit at all.
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Mar 27, 2009 1:19:42 PM CDT
Slumdog Wolverine? Remember John Logan and Star Trek: Nemesis?
by snake foreskin
When will the stupid studio execs learn that Oscar-winning Screenwriter does not equal great pick for genre film? John Logan won for Gladiator. Nemesis almost sucked as bad as that "Cock Shot" bullshit embed. That wasn't even remotely funny. Who thought that was funny? Probably the same assholes who think it's a good idea to make Slumdog Wolverine.
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fanboys love to cry how much the "Worldwide" box-office is, but lets be honest, most films, unless foreign made are judged mainly on how they perform in the U.S....so big big flopping blue dong dissapointment
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my point was simply that despite the HYPE for Watchman, the films Box office # was mediocre and interest from ou side the "geek" community was less than impressive Wolverine on the other hand is a Known property that will no doubt do much better #'s at the box office, hence Fox's green lighting another sequel....Not to mention the fact that if they Don't continue to turn out films they'll loose the rights to the X-Men franchise.......
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