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Here Comes STARGATE UNIVERSE!! Cast Shot!! Teaser Footage!! Ming Na!! And, More...
Merrick here...
Here's a look at STARGATE UNIVERSE , the second spin-off series of STARGATE SG-1.
The material below was initially sent to me on Thursday so that I could provide yall with a heads up that a UNIVERSE teaser would be unveiled during Friday's BATTLESTAR GALACTICA finale.
Alas, the staggering lameness of my AICN e-mail delayed its delivery until yesterday. Nonetheless...
Here are some details about the cast/characters of the new series, via press release:
Edgier and younger in tone, SGU will take the franchise in a dynamic new
direction, appealing to longtime Stargate fans and first-time viewers alike.
The two-part premiere of Universe is being directed by Andy Mikita (Stargate
Atlantis, Stargate SG-1) and lensed by Rohn Schmidt (The Shield, The Mist).
The series is expected to premiere in October 2009.
SGU follows a band of soldiers, scientists and civilians, who must fend for
themselves as they are forced through a Stargate when their hidden base
comes under attack. The desperate survivors emerge aboard an ancient ship,
which is locked on an unknown course and unable to return to Earth. Faced
with meeting the most basic needs of food, water and air, the group must
unlock the secrets of the ship¹s Stargate to survive. The danger, adventure
and hope they find on board the Destiny will reveal the heroes and villains
among them.
The cast includes:
Robert Carlyle stars as Dr. Nicholas Rush, one of the most brilliant
scientific minds, whose motives are not what they appear to be.
Lou Diamond Phillips is Colonel Telford, a proud lifelong military man, who
puts his faith in the chain of command. Stubbornly confident, he¹s highly
regarded by his superiors. He is the chosen leader of the ill-fated
expedition.
Justin Louis portrays Colonel Everett Young, an experienced Stargate team
leader. Married, with years of tough decisions under his belt, life has
taught him never to take anything for granted. He stays on top of his team
so they stay alive.
Brian J. Smith is Lt. Matthew Scott, a junior member of the Stargate team.
Green and rough around the edges, he is thrust into the role of leader well
before he's ready for the responsibility and must learn to command, earn
respect through action, and manage the diverse personalities aboard the
ship.
Elyse Levesque stars as Chloe Armstrong, the daughter and aid of a U.S.
Senator. Politically savvy, but with a wild side, she is considering
following in her father¹s footsteps, until she finds herself trapped on the
ship. As tensions rise, her character will be tested and her place among
the group revealed.
David Blue stars as Eli Wallace, a total slacker, who just happens to be an
utter genius with anything he puts his mind to - mathematics, computers,
video games. A lack of confidence has left him with an acerbic sense of
humor.
Alaina Huffman portrays MSGT. Tamara Johansen. Unable to afford medical
school, the Air Force was the best option for the strong-willed field medic.
Faced with the mounting pressure and a lack of in-depth experience, she will
be forced to rise to the extraordinary occasion of needing to treat the
seriously wounded.
Jamil Walker Smith portrays MSGT. Ronald Greer, a Marine with a temper you
don¹t want to mess with. His past is mysterious but it's clear something
dark formed the hard shell around him.
Ming-Na is Camile Wray, a human resources executive with the international
oversight committee that governs the Stargate program. Now the highest
ranking member of that division left stranded on the ship, she carries
herself with a misguided sense of superiority over the other military and
civilian survivors.
Brad Wright and Robert Cooper, of Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis, will
serve as executive producers and writers on the new series.
Stargate Universe will debut as a two-hour movie event on SCI FI and will be
distributed by MGM Worldwide Television Distribution.
Here's an embiggenable look at the actors being referred to. I'm presuming this is a casual group photo and doesn't reflect costuming we'll see in the series. And...my God...Ming Na is hot...
Finally, in case you missed the teaser reveal during Friday's BATTLESTAR finale..or should you wish to see it again...the teaser is now online & accessible...
HERE!!!
HERE!!!
Readers Talkback
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Num yummy....
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Cant Robert Carlyle do better than this tripe?
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So many Stargates... and yet Farscape was canceled.. Is Stargate that HUGE?!
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...Stargate:Voyager. Stargate: 1999 maybe? Stargate: Space Nine would be good, but the craft they're on would have to be stationary and contain a pedestrian mall.
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THIS WILL PWN US ALL!!! I love SG1 AND ATLANTIS!!! Can't wait for this!
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because crappy shows like this get like 10 seasons and good shows like Firefly and Farscape are gone. just sayin
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Dead horse.
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for a series. They should lay the series to rest for a while and come back. I mean contemporary people traveling to alien worlds using ancient portals. What's not to like, if they don't run out of steam?
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BSG was awesome coz the characters were well written and there was genuine emotion involved. I've seen every Stargate episode and will watch this new one, I just hope there's more to it.
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SG Atlantis was far superior to SG1 (initially at least) due to the interaction between Rodney and Shepherd, I hope the writers realise that and have character based story arcs
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Fuck me season 11 of AICN is full of fuckin twists
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I liked SG1 and Atlantis as military SF. It's what I liked about BSG once upon a time. SG has always been in same vein as the Honor Harrington books, or Falkenberg's legion, or Babylon5: The mission is what matters, but don't throw away lives for no purpose. The troopers in this shot LOOK like troopers. <p> Phillips' storyline should be interesting, as he WILL be the superior in this bunch after previously reliance on his superiors for guidance. <p> I also miss the SG sense of humor. Bring on Universe. I hope it is as internally consistent as the other series.
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Where the hell is Chavez??? He's out there... doin' it with his horse!!
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I think someone at MgM is trying just a little to hard to be cool.
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.."Lost", "Battlestar Galatica" and "Gilligin's Island." Not that that's a bad thing... it's got to be better than the previous cack we've been offered via the "Stargate" franchise.
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The only reason I'll watch this. :) -cuddles her Durza doll-
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Isn't this a little to "Science Fictiony" for you Bonnie??????
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Seems like the Voyager concept is th elast new thing they can come up with before making this the last of the last Stargate series..
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And apparently, he has good taste in movies- http://tinyurl.com/c5w8yc XD
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Lou Diamond Phillips looks about 20 years younger in that photo than you'd imagine him to look, after all these years.
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Any 'creative' who ever uses the term 'edgier' should immediately be executed and have their head jammed atop a spike to serve as a reminder of how useless and meaningless and dead this term is. Seeing it in copy of this sort pretty much says 'this will most likely suck'.
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Too few chicks at the Stargate party as usual. I have a feeling Lou Diamond Phillips will be Robert Patrick'd in the first season.
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Fade in on Lou Diamond Philips as he pats his pockets and says, "I know I had a career here somewhere."
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she used to go by Ming-Na Wen, then she left/divorced her husband so her name's been Ming-Na since. but if there's a hyphen doesnt that imply Ming-Na is her first name? so where's her maiden name or is she pulling a Madonna/Cher thing here? other than that, she is indeed nummy. not sure which i'd want more in bed, the chun li costume or her scrubs. :P
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Cause I think South Park called that one some time ago.
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And shame on AICN for not banning dioxholster in the BSG TB. Givig this guy a TB after what he did over there is LAME, LAME, LAME.<P>And how come there is no new KINGS TB?! Whatever!<P>PS: Ming-Na is an ice queen = Not hot.
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Need to get a clue... and rent One Night Stand.
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Fuck this shit.
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hammer.
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when the old broad is the hot chick
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March 23, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST
If Ming Na is the chick on the bottom right, then she IS hot!
by Squashua
The others, no way. Especially the old woman on the left.
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The nerd, the fighter, the fuckable chicks and the politically correct black man. Ming-Na is hot? Nah, i know hotter chicks in real life
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Probably laughing somewhere because he doesn't actually like SG at all; he was just trolling on BSG. He was actually being pretty funny about it too. Who doesn't love a good trolling? I've caused grown men to have rage-induced seizure-strokes making fun of T2: WHY DO WOO CWY.
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Keep in mind, Stargate is MGM's second biggest money making property (after Bond). That is why, whether Showtime cancels it, or SciFi cancels it, there always seems to be money to make some more (not to mention the direct to video movies). <br><br> Very BSG promo. Actually, better looking than it sounded on paper a while back, but a few seconds of promo only tells you so much.
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Cute. Not hot. Cute. Good enough for a poke.
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WHERE ARE YOU DIOXHOLSTER?!?! Lets have a fake internets troll fight.
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BSG is more like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SG
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Does anybody remember him as Begbie? Or his role in The Full Monty? What the fuck has happened to him? He used to show so much promise. Now they shoved him in this shit. RIP Carlyle.
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It may very well be a last throw of the dice by MGM to save the Stargate TV Franchise. SG1 was utter garbage, and I never got the chance to see Atlantis. If this does fail, then lets see MGM go back to Dean Devlin and ask him to script the two sequels that were originally planned.
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Remember when her name was Ming-Na Wen? What happened to the Wen? The teaser didn't look too bad. But, remember, we all thought The Phantom Menace teaser looked good. "Every journey has a first step..." I'll give it a shot. It sounds like they're trying to replace BSG with another "gritty, edgy" scifi. I've never know Stargate to be either of those. If either of the two girls in the front (though neither possess Tricia Helfer level hotness) dress like Head Six, I'll be there weekly.
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sausage fest. Bouncy X, I should've read your post first. And, I agree. What the frak happened to her last name? Ming-Na with the hyphen does indeed suggest it is one name, like Spider-Man or cock-sucker.
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just before this TB got posted, what sweet sweet justice would that be?
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no just kidding, Im quite busy now guys so, i cant stay here for long.
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Look it's got your Asian, your Mexican/Indian (you son of a bitch), your Soul Food, your American, and there's even some haggis for you Scots in the crowd! Throw some sprinkles on the ice cream and you've got yourself a genuine TV dinner right there!
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Shitty movie followed by tons of shitty TV spin-offs. Ming Na, Robert, and Lou have this look on their faces like, "why the FUCK am I in some crappy, laughably bad sci-fi TV show??"
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He prefers the watered-down dumbed-for-the-masses crap that is served to the public like Star Gate.
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...do I have to lower myself to watching another Stargate series simply because there is nothing else even masquerading as Hard Sci-Fi right now in the American market? Christ...
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Siffy (SyFy) loves Stargate because they pay very little for it. MGM foots the bill for these shows, Siffy just pays for distribution rights. Then they play the episodes almost 24 hours a day collecting ad revenues for little or no effort.<p> Which is why BSG almost got cancelled, Siffy was sharing in the expenses of BSG, and they can't be arsed to actually pay for anything now can they?
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...more sci-fi fluff. Stargate was rarely about anything more than having a fun new adventure every week.<p> I really enjoyed SG1 until it turned into Fargate, it really sunk for me after RDA left, it wasn't awful, just so so.<p> Atlantis lost me completely when they brought Replicators into it, same shit with Ark of Truth, motherfucking played out Replicators again!?!?! Now that's lazy writing!<p> I expect this show to be a mix of Stargate with a hint of BSG's tone, until the hardcore Stargate fans go ballistic and whine and cry until the producers dumb it way down and turn it into a comedy again.
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HAHAHA! Get it?
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What's wrong with being fun? It seems like BSG gets elevated to mythic status just because it was about the most depressing sci-fi show ever. I am not even saying I hated BSG because I didn't and I watched every episode, but damn was it depressing. Stargate was fun and there is nothing wrong with that. Fun sci-fi does not equal bad sci-fi. I'll give it a shot.
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March 23, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST
Black guy is not Token. Diamond Phil isn't white neither is Wen.
by Damien Chowder
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March 23, 2009, 1:37 p.m. CST
Why did "Syphilis" keep Stargate: SG1 on for so long? My tone is
by Leafar the Lost
Aceribc means, "acid in temper, tone, or mood." I didn't know that word. MIng-Na is not "Oh my God," hot. Not even close. The other two ladies in the picture are hotter, but not "Oh my God," hot. The problem with the Stargate series can be summed up with one word, "vanilla". That was the feeling I got when I watched one episode 10 years ago, and I never watched it again. A cookie cutter, cheap looking, vanilla, sci fi TV show filmed somewhere in Canada. It felt bland to me. I have never understood why it was on the air so long, and why it has fans. This new Stargate looks like a cross between Star Trek: Voyager and and BSG. A mixed group of military, civilians, and scientists? Sound familar? Which one is supposed to be like Dr. Balter and Lee Adama? By the way, Hairy Nutsack explained to me why Stargate: SG1 was on the air so long. I now understand why "Syphilis" kept it on the air for so long when hardly anyone was watching. It was the quality, it was the quanity!
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BSG, you're missed already. Dick Mouser, eat a dick.
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P90 IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE OFFENSIVE WEAPON IN THE UNIVERSE
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March 23, 2009, 1:47 p.m. CST
"Hmm, It Looks Like We've Found Ourselves In Vancouver."
by LaserPants
"HOLY SPACEPOOPS! ITS A MANSQUITO!!! We've STARGATED to SIFFY!!! SIFFYLAND!!! NOOOOOOOO!!!!
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March 23, 2009, 1:56 p.m. CST
I predict some seriously trolled TB's here in future lol
by Col. Tigh-Fighter
I'm actually a Stargate fan, but ol' diox has actually lessened my enthusiasm for this show. After the frankly boring Atlantis, this needs to be seriously good to keep my attention. Or if they just re-hash old plots like in Atlantis where the Wraith my merely substituted for the Goa'uld - then I'm outta here! <p> But I did love the first series and Apophis was one bad-ass mofo lol
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I don't like Asian chicks.
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Robert Carlyle dies in the 2nd part of the 1st (2 part) episode. And then he gets back to his productive career.<p> Lou Diamond Phillips sticks around to play Richard Dean Anderson. LDP career is sufficiently over that moving to BC Canada is a wise move.
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Or Stargate Bourne lol.
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...that they always shot SG episodes in the summer, which made each "planet" look exactly the same. We got a couple of desert locations, but 99.9% of locations were Vancouver forest in the summer. How about a winter episode once in a while, I always wanted to see an SG1 snow uniform.<p> I guess the galaxy is too boring to have weather.
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"I don't like Asian chicks" is the one thing you will NEVER hear a geeky fanboy say...ever. Your card will now be revoked.
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Lou Diamond Phillips gets left behind on some planet, establishing the shocking fact that people are at risk of being left behind. Then it never happens again in a 3-year run. Some day he'll come back as a diabolical villain with his own alien army and a "You left me behind!" complex.
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Most notably in episodes where they were in antarctica, or in the Continuum movie where they actually filmed in the arctic. They also did a few where winter conditions were present.
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have a black person or your cast isn't diverse.
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Fuck YOU.
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Alien Women become a requirement. Rawr.
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how good and fresh Farscape was. MGM is flogging a dead horse now. We need "syFy" to commission the Jim Henson company to develop somethig new and fresh again.
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go watch bravo or a sigfried and roy dvd then. what is not to love about women who look 20 when they're thirty
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They're equally bangable. How about some real alien women with more than 2 breasts and more than 3 pleasure holes...
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= more for me.<p> You guys are some small-picture motherfuckers.
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so you've got a british doctor who is morally dark, a hispanic military leader, a green young military cadet, a young asian woman, a female politican. where have i seen this show before? Seriously sciffi just call it battlestargate and be done with it.
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Come on, Dixo's thing was a gag in the BSG talkback, right?
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I've watched maybe two SG1 eps all the way through and tried many others, even once they got Browder and Black, but I was bored to tears. Never saw any more than a scene or two of Atlantis (again, even Kaylee from Firefly couldn't keep me interested). I saw this ad during BSG's finale, and it looked interesting, but enough like BSG I wasn't sure it was a commercial break. I like Carlyle, LDP and Ming-Na. If they didn't have the word 'Stargate' I would never have known it was part of that franchise. So I'm wondering if I should give this a chance or not. If it's totally different, I might. If it's anything like the first 2 shows, count me out. <p> I miss BSG already!!
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Clearly the Stargate franchise is not like Battlestar. You could probably edit most wedding videos to looks like BSG with enough quick cuts, bad lighting and screaming matches. Marketing a product is not the same as the finished product. <p> On SG, when you KNOW it's time to space the baddie, the sucker will get spaced. There will be discussions and a decision; Not overlong angsty discussions, or soulful singing montages, or hanging around 10 damn minutes too long for headgames. Nuh-uh. The SG series series characters have normally displayed a good amount of common sense and dedication. Check out SG: Continuum movie when it's on Syphy in a couple weeks. <p> I'm looking forward to this. BSG was compelling in it's own way, but I really wanted it to end a couple years back. SG-1 probably went too long, and SG:A's ending felt hurried. <p> Also, I'm tired of the Dwight Schrute nerd fascism- "Do you watch Battlestar Galactica?" "No" "Then you are an idiot!"
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This chick was born in 1963, making her old enough to be my mom. Did anyone else notice? She wouldn't get a second glance in a country where people can tell the difference between people of her race.
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...neé Ming-Na Wen. Family name was Wen but she's been credited without it for awhile. Was married twice. She's 45 years old, still looks great to me, but in H/Wood, a 45 year old woman is in "grandma-roles" territory. She's lucky to have the SGU gig, I guess now that ER is almost done.
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..."Oh just hurry up with this bloody photo shoot so I can go have another feckin' scotch!"
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I get hard just thinking about them! But let's just hope they don't hook up Ming-Na with the black dude. That'd be so fuckin' stereotypical.
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It was an incredibly ignorant thing for him to say. They shoot these shows in Canada, a country that has like 43 actors total, and racial diversity consisting of pasty whites and Hong Kong Chinese. In a country short on both actors and blacks, it's a wonder there are any blacks at all in these Canadian productions.<p> It's not racism that's an issue here, it's just a numbers game.
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March 23, 2009, 4:01 p.m. CST
I want token camp and gay guy. Also butch ugly women.
by Damien Chowder
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really?
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Does anyone know if the Quicktime Teaser is only available to the US? The video isn't downloading when I try viewing it, here in the UK.
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It's insane. What they are saying is, he's phoning it in to such an extent that he can't even be bothered to get a haircut. He's just turning up, collecting his paycheck, and doing that thing from Redemption where he dies to save everyone.
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Spawned all of this. It was on TV yesterday, and its still half decent/half ridiculous. It is definitely an awesome concept though. Sometimes I find myself drawing cubes with 6 points inside, and then a 7th way across the page. Because thats how the Stargate works according to David Spader.
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But I don't understand the popularity of this show, I tried to watch the original series about 7 years ago, and I was so shocked by its horrible writing, acting, and extremely low budget and terrible effects stopped me after the first episode.
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Character names seem awfully vanilla. I swear I've heard most of those in other TV shows.
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Ming-Na certainly WAS hot in her time. Not sure this is still her time, though.
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It's like that scene from Superman Returns: <p>Luthor: Go ahead, name a chick hotter than Ming-na . . .<p>We- <p>WROOOOOOONG!
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center the shot. The photo and cast look wonderful...and they look happy.
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Hollyweird's idea of edgy is too much crap in the crapaccino. <P> Will the black guy be the street-jiving tech geek? <P> And a US Senator's daughter? Oh, wow, she'll be, like, you know, edgy, like riiiiiiiiily.
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I'm wildly underwhelmed.
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I may be your loving mother but I gotta tell you paybacks a bitch..If anyone here doesn't know what the hell I'm talking about just swing by the BSG finale talkback..he was an annoying little gnat pissing on BSG at the same time begging us to start watching stargate...I so regret shitting him out those many years ago...
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I was a fan of SG1 and liked Atlantas although it had no direction. But this premise and promos don't excite me at all.
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At least that's what the description sounds like. LOL (Does Ming Na play Boomer?)
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your mother when I got her drunk and made her moan with the biggest butt plug you ever did see. I remember thinking 'wake me up when this becomes a proper show'.
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You can't be too careful!
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Thanks for the apology, but that is far from adaquit. That boy is gonna be drawn and quartered and ST:U talkbacks will be fucked with. Sorry your son is such a turd..burgler....
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I have had a crush on her for the longest time!
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Atlantis was damn near perfect sci-fi - but I'll give this a chance because Carlyle saved my life when I was a kid!!!
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March 23, 2009, 6:09 p.m. CST
Never seen SG1. When did the show actually start getting good?
by AshokZero
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I don't know if he really did or not but he was in contention at one point to be the 11th Doctor. If he by chance was offered the part and turned it down for this rubbish than shame on him. I guess we'll have to settle for young Pertwee with no eyebrows.
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I highly doubt there will be a stargate TB anyway..but if there is and its a big fat IF..then I'll be there front and center for the bashfest! Maybe I should've spanked him harder...
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Ain't they never heard the word "finished"? Jesus.
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The first season is weak, with a couple interesting episodes. The second season started getting good, thoguh it had a terrible finale. The 3rd and 4th seasons seem to generally be considered the best of the series (at least while RDA was starring). 5 & 6 were, IMO, still good and started to move it forward into higher tech scenarios (as Earth starts developing starships of it's own). 7 was fun but was about 90% filler (Season 6's finale was originally supposed to lead into a theatrical movie, but the show got renewed and so they had to kinda undo some of it and use some filler until they could use the movie's plot for the 2-hour season 7 finale) but it does have a couple of the best episodes in the franchise (the "Heroes" 2 parter is excellent anyway you cut it, and "Lost City" is one of the best season finales/potential season finales you'll find). Season 8 is a mixed bag but the 3-parter precceeding the 2-part season finale functions, for all intents and purposes, as the finale for the original cast and is fantastic. Now, some people didn't like the switch over to Browder and Black, but, IMO, Season 9 is the strongest plotted season in the franchise with a very deliberate build-up and pacing that added an unexpected level of menace to the new villains, building to a great finale. Season 10, sadly, was spotty. Some good episodes, but one of the weaker seasons. The Ark of Turht resolves that storyline and is ok, but is rushed (they had planned on finishing things in Season 11 before the cancellation) and further weakened by reusing an old enemy that took screen time away and distracted from the new enemy that they should have been resolving with that movie. The second DVD movie, Continuum, was good fun though.
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Stargate is sort of the modern incarnation of what was supposedly appealing about the original Star Trek series- adventure mixed with drama, humor, exploration, aliens and spaceships. It just loses some of the camp and unapproachably dated writing and designs that plagues TOS. It has appeal in being more or less grounded in our present reality instead of the future or alternate-Earth-like society, and (ignoring initial changes between film and series) has one of the tighter continuities you'll likely to find on any TV series- they're very consistent with their internal rules of how things work, and the long run permits them to fully explore dangling plot threads and characters and merge them into larger events. It eventually becomes a surprisingly addicting franchise to watch. The humor- while not as balls-out-crazy as Farscape, provides for enjoyable light adventure amongst the more serious elements, and makes for the perfect balance to BSG's almost entirely humorless writing. It's basic premise of "a doorway to anywhere" provides unlimited story potential, and those are many of the reasons why it's endured so long, and seems likely to meet or beat the total run of the Star Trek franchise down the road (if we assume SGU at the very least equals SGA's run, we're looking at a minimum of 17 seasons and 5+ movies total at least)
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It's about the good gate<p>and the hard gate<p>and the young Goa'ulds you made cry<p>it's about make a little mission every day 'til you die<p>It's a beautiful ride...
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Thanks for a great analysis of why Stargate has been a reliably great time all these years. Not without its flaws, but really good stuff. Haters may now bite me.
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March 23, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST
That cast shot looks like a pic of American Idol finalists
by American Mythos
without the youngness, and from a season where Taylor Hicks seemed like a good choice. This looks like the farthest from serious scifi that I can imagine. Crap.
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Ming Na = Laura Roslin (middle management turned leader) <br> Lou Diamond Phillips = Bill Adama (military commander)<br> Robert Carlyle = Gaius Baltar (scheming scientist)<br> Justin Louis = Saul Tigh (veteran warrior and second in command)<br> Brian J. Smith = Lee Adama (brash young leader)<br> Alaina Huffman = Kara Thrace (brash young soldier, except she is a medic too)<br> Elyse Levesque = Tory Foster (scheming young politician)<br> David Blue = Galen Tyrol (awkward gearhead)<br> Jamil Walker Smith = Helo Agathon (big brawny soldier)<br>
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It may not be quickeetime, but after having trouble with the above link, I found the SGU- Frantic trailer on SciFi(dot)com in the Stargate department. Look to the right and the videos arelisted, including SGU's trailers. Hope this helps you.
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Anything he stars in gets cancelled.
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March 23, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST
2nd, 3rd... string franchise show suck the life from scifi
by tangcameo
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I like Ming Na, but she's neither cute nor that beautiful. She's OK though, definitely not ugly, and much better looking than the chick on the right. Also, the fat guy seems annoying mainly because it reminds me of Jonah Hill, which I absolutely hate. And what a hell is Carlyle doing there? He used to have better parts. I hope at least the pay is good.
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already guess because it's stargate. One of the few fears i have with SG:universe is the episode retreads. 1. Team goes to planet ->bring back virus->team gets sick-> team develops cure 2. somewhere i think they'll meet replicators. 3. somewhere they get a chance to go home through a portal, but don't take it because of baddies following them. 4. They lose someone, but find them further on, based on a stargate world that their next jump. They.... 1. Need aliens with more legs 2. Aliens that are just monsters. 3. more noxious worlds (every world they go to practically has oxygen) so they never need a contamination suit.
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bad casting.
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Probably because Asian chicks don't like you.
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While I loved BSG, it was like the story of the little orphan girl who sold matchsticks - so sad, it becomes funny for it's absurdity. We need a show like Stargate to balance it. "US air force (with international support) liberates the galaxy, destroying it's evil overlords. That's batshit insane and cool in the same time, while being the exact opposite of what BSG is. And I'm afraid, I'm the kind of person, who enjoys the light hearted, ridiculous optimism of Stargate a bit more. I didn't see all the eps, but I liked what I've seen, looking forward to this. I just hope they don't go all doom and gloom. I would fucking hate a "serious" Stargate show.
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Are they going to end up fighting Mongols that speak perfect English, then end up giving the oppressed Mongol Women freedom after a 1v1 battle between a female character and a Mongol Warlord. Or is this Stargate going to not be completely retarded.
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Because I don't like them. They look like my ass when it's not in season.
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Good post, thanks. The series really is worth watching from the beginning of season 1. You will find some great story arcs on the character level as well as on the grand scale. Netflix 'em or buy them. You'll get a better deal now than I did!
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Well, they send those remote controlled NAAB thingies to check the environment first, so they mostly go to earth like planets, and we've seen SG-1 wearing biohazard suits on a few worlds. There was actually a plotpoint in Atlantis, that there are new regulations, and now they send probes to worlds they've visited before, after a gate was flooded, just to be safe. Also, the gate is supposed to have some kind of bio filter for viruses. I'm more annoyed with the fact that they only explore the proximity of the gate, never the planet. But hey, this is a show, where the big cliffhanger sentence can be "OMG! THE RUSSIANS HAVE A STARGATE!" so I'll swallow these problems anyday, for these awesome moments.
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March 23, 2009, 7:58 p.m. CST
Ming Na and LDP look kinda pissed in that promo shot
by alienindisguise
I hope the show isn't that bad. If only Ming Na could/would do a live action Mulan flick. That would be the sweetness.
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Didn't Stargate already try it with Atlantis and didn't is suck shit then already so they wrote it out? Are they going to throw in a lot of BSG and LOST style distractions like flashbacks, WTF shocking plot twists that confuse but also intrigue, and lots of "edgy" hand held and extreme close up shots? Fine, try it, see what you get, but frankly the next thing I want to see is a Star Trek TV show breaking the mold now.
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I left around season 5 and came back around season 8. Saw like half of Atlantis (the McCay centric episodes, and a few others. My god, how lame villains are the wraith. They should've gone with Evil Asgard from the beginning) I think I caught what I had to. This is not a show, you're supposed to obsess about and watch it religiously, that's what I like about it. I'm not compelled to fill the gaps of the missing episodes. If I catch an ep I didn't see on the TV, I'll watch it, but not as a chore. That's the beauty of it.
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March 23, 2009, 8 p.m. CST
Also, I'll watch for Ming Na (Mulan!) but is that Gwenyth Paltro
by Drath
Seriously, what's Shakespeare's girlfriend doing in there, isn't she still a movie star?
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would be great if you got the right writer for it, but it would be so far removed from any Stargate stuff we've seen so far that it seriously shouldn't be called Stargate. <P> To me Stargate has always been about the fun of exploring, the fascination of ancient cultures, the cool gadgets, all the while beating the bad guys with funny voices. It's sort of like the American answer to Doctor Who in that respect. Thing is, I eagerly await the next Doctor Who episode. Can't say I've felt that for a Stargate episode since 2005.
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Why they keep this franchise alive? The movie was horrible to begin with..there are way too many dioxholsters or dickholders ( as I affectionately call him) in the world.
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Especially the build up at the start - very nice reveal up to the Stargate. It's that sense of fascination that really worked in the movie. That and Snake Plisskin & Alan Shore were a great combo. But yeah, the movie was 2/3 good, last 1/3 meh.
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I agree about the Wraith. They were decent villains to me only at first. But the one thing that bugged the hell out of me was that the Zat weapon would have been handy against them, but NONE were brought. Seems like a big oversight not to bring energy weapons to a completely new destination. A variety of ways to protect yourself would seem the smart way to go. But I'm pretty sure that would have pulled the Wraith's teeth right off, so it was likely an on-purpose 'oversight' by the writing staff. It was still stupid. There were a lot of very good episodes in the era you missed. Don't think of it as a chore. :-)
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It's the second regular episode (after the pilot and pilot-resolving first episode) and it's still awful. It's actually the one episode in the entire franchise that I skip over when marathoning through the franchise with friends just getting into the show. With over 300 episodes to the franchise, there's bound to be a few that fall short of the mark or are outright terrible.
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Though I think it was a little silly, they intentionally did not use ZATs on Atlantis to help distinguish the two shows weapon tech. Atlantis used Wraith stunners and Ronon's awesome gun instead, which likewise you did not see used by SG-1.
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That SG1 kept the quality up for 10 seasons is amazing. And for all you folks who 'never got into it' try renting DVD season 1, disc 1, episode 1. Yes, the first season was a little rocky, but by the end of it they'd found their way. Great stuff, but yes, it's hard to appreciate SG1 or ATL without doing it from day 1. SGU has tremendous potential. I'm hopeful.
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It's very profitable and popular. Simple as that. SG-1 is MGM's second most important money-maker after James Bond. SG-1 has a large fanbase worldwide and MGM, as a result, makes a ton of dough off of the DVD sales (which is why they're doing the direct-to-DVD movies to continue the franchise) and other merchandise. It also helps that it was SFC's top-rated show (unseating Farscape by a healthy margin) before BSG debuted. The fanbase is there- Stargate Atlantis was something like the most DVR'd/time-delayed-viewing show (which unfortunately led to it's premature cancellation- it's ratings literally doubled in some cases once factoring in time-delayed viewing) and I've seen more TV ads for Gate conventions in the NY/NJ area than anything else- including Comic-Con. Quite frankly you rarely see too much negativity about the franchise (beyond typical fan arguments/new cast/etc) even on the net- though AICN is a glaring exception, though I'm actually still a little surprised there's so much of it here, despite Talkback reputations, but it all depends on what your looking for in shows. Stargate isn't competing with BSG. It's competing with the Treks and B5, maybe Farscape or Firefly- and even then it's setting and tone is a unique voice. B5, DS9 & BSG evolved a couple aspects of Trek, Stargate evolved the rest along a divergent branch in the proverbial tree.
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The homeroom teacher is a Goauld. <P> It will also be . . . are you ready for this . . . EDGY.
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Courtesy of the boys over at TheCinemaSource.com! http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=72388138472&ref=mf
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Couldn't they be hassled to deinterlace that shit? Is it too much to ask? Fuckin newbs.
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I think she is aging backwards the Lady is HOT!!!
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nice!
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Oh...no it isn't, just some asian with the body of a young boy.<p>
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Then Stargay is quite appropriate.
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..should be taken seriously here folks, Carlyle FFS. I give this show half a season max.
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Lots of women wish they would have Ming Na's beauty at 45. Lots of women of 45 are slow, fat, boring, hairy, nagging and ugly. Some women know how to carry beauty and some of them drop it early.
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wtf happened bro
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March 24, 2009, 4:14 a.m. CST
Oh cool, another female character with a "wild side"
by Hardboiled Wonderland
Don't ya love these original character sheets? Geezus fucking christ, not all women are ambitious, strong-willed, wild childs like Yoko.
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All the Ming-Na hate and ageism! I dunno, that voice always gets me though.
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Well done to whoever mentioned it above. Have seen both episodes and it's really, really good. It's probably not destined to last long but it deserves some support.
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NBC will pull the plug within 5 years on SyFy.
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March 24, 2009, 8:02 a.m. CST
M-O-O-N. That spells "Two colonels = Lou Diamond Phillips is a d
by TomCullen
He'll be hanging with Robert Patrick in that big 'ole Stargate in the sky after the first episode, just like the setup in the Stargate Atlantis pilot sent Patrick to an early grave. Any time you have two Colonels in a pilot you know the name guy is going to have a sudden "shock" death so that the cheaper no name guy can be forced into a leadership position as a cheap and easy mode of character development. The spirit horse is coming for you Lou, hope you're ready...
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Damn line cutoff.
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sg7 - That killed me. I can see Walt rolling his eyes. <p> SQ - As far as weapons go, the SGA ep "midway" was one of the best action eps I've ever seen on TV. Teal'c tearing it up with the SAW 249? Awesome.
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The biggest problem with Atlantis? These guys had no budget!! While zapping, I couldn't believe how much more money they had to make SG-1 episodes. Altantis ended up just making episodes of people running in the forrest.. like StarWars fan films. <br><br> BGS also clearly got budget cuts, and in the last seasons could only afford Adama crying and barfing. :P It's not just the writing: they simply can't afford doing anything other than characters chatting in prebuilt sets. <br>,br> Anyways, the drop from SG-1 to Atlantis in production value was terrible. We could probably say the same with the later Star Trek franchises. I don't have any faith that the Sci-Fi channel is paying enough to make this or any new shows, they seem to be cutting more and more every year. I want to see more footage to see how dedicated they truly are to this.
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Remember that executives at Sci-Fi and people involved with the channel have said they're doing absolutely everything in their power to bite their own tongues off to make sure that they get as far away from "sci-fi" as possible.
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That'll little shit never earned anything in his life .. he was given everything because of his dad's rank. CAG, commander of a battlestar, presidency ... I'm kind of glad he lost everyone he cared about.
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how'd I end on this page?
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March 24, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST
Lou Diamond Phillips lost his ex-wife to Melissa Etheridge.
by Leafar the Lost
I want to remind everyone that Lou Diamond Phillips had his first ex-wife (Julie Cypher) taken away from him by Melissa Etheridge. In 1988, Cypher met Etheridge while directing the music video for the song "Bring Me Some Water" and she split with Phillips in 1990 to embark on a relationship with Etheridge. To have your woman taken away from you by Melissa Etheridge is one of the worse things that could have happened to Phillips career. I believe it ended any chance he had at being a major movie or TV star. His career went to hell after that. Also, in 2005 Lou Diamond Phillips left his 2nd wife (Kelly)after an 11-year marriage. Lou cannot hold on to his women.
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The only good thing with Stargate in the name was the original movie.
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Would be popping spin offs to this day.
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It ain't Stargate without RDA!
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Bobbie's gotta eat?
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For Christs sake, save us! Get the two Stargate sequel movies made and bury this shit.
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Sure it could all be a coincidence, but essentially take the first name of the hero of Z Gundam and the last name of the original Gundam hero and presto you've got a hidden inside joke. And before you tell me that those 2 characters were male and Ming Na isn't, Amuro Ray and Camille Vidan were such pussies the only reason they got angry was because their vaginae had sand in them. And I think there's just too many people in this cast, some seem redundant. Expect one of them to die by mid-season in a "very special episode" probably followed by another death in the end of season cliffhanger.
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March 24, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST
I want to slap the taste out of that fat guy's mouth...
by Leafar the Lost
...in the picture. I have never had this kind of violent reaction to a person's picture before. I can't image what I will feel when I actually see this person "acting" on the show. Also, the blond in the photo is way hotter than the 45 year old Ming-Not-Hot.
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your comments are very insightful INDEED! well said. <p> alot of people here seem to have missed me or else why would my name be mentioned throughout this talkback. i guess i have that affect on people. oh well, time to return to life. cant wait to see stargate again. and im happy that BSG is over, the only bad thing is that its fans still exist---reminds me of the time when SG-1 were able to destroy the Ori but still had the Ori army to deal with.
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Does that mean it will have slow motion musical montages of angst ridden young characters staring off into the distance with concerned faces all set to the current emo band of the moment? I say that jokingly, but I can actually see that happening...<p> On a side note, I thought from the title that they were making a Stargate based MMORPG. My initial reaction to that thought was to wish they made a MMORPG based on Firefly instead. That was so nerdy, I actually had to punch -myself- in the face...
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repeated from various parts of the other series and others shows we've seen over and over again. Now all we need is a cool edgy alien to pick up along the way to complete it.
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It sucked worse than the series, which was quite good at times (especially SG1).
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It's been in the works for a couple years, it's called "Stargate Worlds" and is set during or just before Season 8 (so that the Goa'uld can be used as enemies) but is supposed to eventually progress through the series timeline. They had said they intended to have the game and show play off of each other- but this was back when SG-1 and SGA were still on the air, so the current idea might only play off of the SG-1 & SGA DVD movies, as SGU doesn't seem like it could be connected logically for some time. You can see the teaser trailers and a developer's walk-through of gameplay footage here: http://tinyurl.com/ddkrzr
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The movie was actually pretty good until they entered the Stargate then it went all to shit....
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Seriously, no really lou diamond phillips? your not serious ? Lou freaking Diamond Phillips?
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Wait till you see Mr Carlyle in The Tournament Feature Film, this summer!! he's gunna rock with Ving Rhames, Kelly Hu and Liam Cunningham... Top Action Movie.
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everything has has so called "generic characters", if you sum them up by a sentence. Everyone BSG, for example.
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couldn't work, would it? I mean look at Matrix Online - I think it's safe to say The Matrix has a larger "fan-base" than Stargate, and yet Matrix Online has been fraught with company takeovers, devs leaving, & trying to make enough content but not making enough money to really make it all work. <P> If they did a MMORPG for Stargate it'd probably be with limited budget (much less than the last few years of series have been) and it won't be good enough to attract people who aren't dire fans - which they arguably don't have enough of. <P> That and they'd have to compete with Star Wars: The Old Republic - made by the same people who made KOTOR (one of the greatest RPGs ever to grace your PC). Stargate, like Star Trek, had its time and now it has to rethink its whole approach before moving forward - much like BSG did (like it or not, the show was a success, although I don't think a MMORPG of BSG would make it either). <P> And @ dioxholster - I read some of your comments in the BSG talkback. The only affect you had on people was to insult them. You don't like BSG, fine. But to say "I'm sure some silly fan will still want to stick his stinky dick in that rotten corpse just for the memories", and yet say that "stargate is respected by the scientific community and they enjoy it immensely" - one disgusting, the other an unprovable generalisation... It can be said that no one here misses you. Your name is merely invoked as an example of the depths of profound stupidity some will resort to on these boards. You want that to change? Tone down the unnecessarily vile sexual descriptions and do some research to back up your claims. Your name remains a punchline otherwise.
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let them be attention starved and die a slow horrible unloved death
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It won't be close to competing with SW:TOR, but SG-1 lends itself better to the genre than Star trek (as other SG units and faction members go out exploring and engage in combat as part of their regular mission, whereas with Trek it's not combat-focused when it comes to the stuff outside of the starships and your typical occupation would involve wandering around aship for hours, so it doesn't lend itself logically to being combat or PvP focused) and has a better chance of gaining broader appeal (with the popularity of the various military shooter games out there, playing in a military combat squad online is more likely to entice a non-fan to play the game than the prospect of playing as a Starfleet Ensign). And I don't think Matrix Online is a good comparison since it's a dead franchise that ended on a sour note with general audiences, which I would argue has a much smaller fanbase at this juncture than Stargate. Matrix had a bigger fanbase 6 or 7 years ago, but it's over now. And as for budget, well, I'm unfamiliar with those stats but they seem to have put a good amount of work into the game, going by the videos I linked to earlier. They're certainly taking the opportunity to explore mor eexotic locations than you typically found on SG-1. And since SGU is supposed to be a more expensive series than SG-1 or SGA and likely higher profile on the channel now that BSG is over, and with SFC (I think) having a stake in the game, I don't see any reason for them to get skimpy on the development. SFC/MGM is certainly promoting the game a lot- teaser ads were shown during the Gate shows often, and they were pushing a contest this season each week to win your likeness added into the game. They just have to make sure not to restrict the region for players too much, since a big chunk of the Gate audience is oversees. Personally, I would rather have gotten the "SG-1: The Alliance" FPS that was in the works a couple years ago, but that got scrapped due to developer problems, but SGW will be interesting- I know about 4 or 5 people who are casual gate fans who are looking forward to playing it, and I know I am too.
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TheSecondQuest makes good points. The Matrix ending on a sour note; Having a bigger fanbase 6-7 years ago; And I'm glad the Stargate crew are putting the money behind their new ventures - I look forward to seeing what they come up with. <P> But personally I have to admit that I thought Stargate ended on a sour note with audiences (the last couple seasons of SG1 not being as good as previous ones, and the same goes for Atlantis). And also that Stargate had a bigger fanbase say 4 to 6 years ago when the shows were still going strong. These are of course my opinions with no stats to back them up, but I know other Stargate fans who share these opinions. So I can see similarities between the Matrix & Stargate franchises. Matrix Online ran out of money & steam. I hope the similarities with Stargate don't extend that far.
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Another thing was MO was just a crappy game. I'm not a fanatical SG nut (liked it on Showtime, liked the first season or two of Atlantis, watched for Browder and Black at the end), but if the game is solid it will do well no matter what fanbase is out there.
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The STAR TREK trailer worked fine but this STARGATE one is unwatchable. Tried three different players, but no go. Seems it uses some non-standard encoding. Doesn't anyone actually bother to check these things before posting them?!
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"I'm sure some silly fan will still want to stick his stinky dick in that rotten corpse just for the memories" ----- man, i came up with THAT? wow im so cooool! <p> i say what i want to say when i want to say it. and you want me to prove my claims...why on earth would i do that? thats no fun. its an opinon, im the proof. <p> and you say my name will remain a punchline? I say good, since it seems every creative person in showbiz ultimatly becomes a punchline here, im in good company. <p> I never seen people so skeptical about everything as i did here. this place has been defiled many times yet just because some talkbacker named dioxholster decided to parody that, clearly meant nothing to you. my mission here is done. btw, watching BSG is like a chick farting on your dick. and thats a bad thing.
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probably for a good reason too. MMORPGs are slowely becoming a thing of the past thanks to the economy. even though im a fan, i dont think i wouldve paid every month just to play a couple of times. people who sign up for that, it sort of becomes their life. and stargate should be FPS or RPG third person anyway. i want a fun stargate game that kills time.
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Sorry, could resist the Julius Caesar. <p> No official notice of demise of SG:W. Some new posts this week, but no mention of hiatus. http://community.stargateworlds.com/news/ <p> That said, I'm unsure if it will be a success or no. But I'm still playing City of Heroes 10 hours a month. They continue to have enough subscribers to justify updating new content. WoW and Eve seem to be doing well too. SG:W looks more a MMO-shooter anyway. I'll have to give a whirl.
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The cast choices in this are intriging... could be we are going to get a proper version of stargate like the original series. Atlantis was so effen' amateurish it looked like it was filmed in someones basement.
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For those having trouble with that quicktime: http://tinyurl.com/dkot8o
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The Gates certainly had some fanbase drop off from older fans towards the end, but I think they did bring in some new fans at the same time, so it's hard to say. There's definitely those that hated the Ori/Browder/Black and Kaylee/Woolsey, but at the same time there are fans who started watching for those same reasons (eitehr Farscape fans for the former or Firefly/Weir haters for the latter)- I know I got two friends caught up on the shows because of Browder and Black and their like of Farscape. And, IMO, some of those more controversial seasons were some of the best- as I mentioned earlier, Season 9 was the best SG-1 season, IMO, and I also felt Season 5 of Atlantis, one or two particular episodes and the rushed conclusion not withstanding, was probably it's best season as the character relationships and chemistry were clicking very well and they were inotrducing new interesting elements, like the evil Asgard, that kept the show from getting stale. But, I know my opinion isn't universally shared. But even so, I still can't see Stargate fandom dying off as radically as Matrix fandom, where it's pretty much the die-hard philosopher fans remaining, and just the very nature of the two different franchises- the Matrix story is more or less closed off and centered around a particular savior, wheeas Stargate is, by design, an ongoing adventure with less of a focus on a particular character's story arc.
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http://tinyurl.com/cc7zqb <p> ----and yes thats my channel, its not gay okay i happen to like the way it looks thank you very much. <p> ---@TheSecondQuest, that youtube video hurts my ears. whoever did it was the first and good for him but damn he shouldve done something about the sound.
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..more intelligent..more character driven drama.. Stagnate Universe will be dropped faster than a turd, and will hit the water without even a splash. And people will not notice nor care.
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Great. Battlestar Voyager. Can't wait. <br><br> I actually cannot believe Robert Carlyle signed up for this. He MUST die in the pilot.
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...or halfway through the season. He'd get more respect by becoming a rent boy than working on this.
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Almost everything is a slight rehash of something earlier so please stop using that argument. Sooo much hate... it's hard to find anything remotely enteraining/informative on the talkbacks anymore... The sooner this show comes out - the sooner you guys are going to be eating your words.
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Im hoping for less camp and more like BSG. IF they got the guy did the shooting/directing for the SHIELD(that's a cool series) Im crossing my fingers. The original was also much more dramatic than the series.
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"this place has been defiled many times yet just because some talkbacker named dioxholster decided to parody that, clearly meant nothing to you." <P> Ok, you're parody-ing talkbackers. Nice of you to mention it, but better late than never I suppose. I guess the thing that threw me was that rather than coming across sarcastically you've been coming across as a person possessed - with all the repeated posts and insults. Only very few TBers do this, and they're either quickly banned or ignored, and probably drunk. You just didn't make it clear you weren't like this, so many have assumed you actually are. <P> "you want me to prove my claims... why on earth would i do that?" Because you don't state that it's your opinion. If you want your parody to continue, don't worry about it. But should you ever wish to have an actual discussion here with someone, well, you know what to do.
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They're completely different types of shows, even ignoring the quality of writing and acting. Caprica is going to be a character drama about two families in a slightly sci-fi metro setting. SGU is going to be an action/adventure show with aliens and spaceships. The success or failure of one will have no effect on the other- people will tune in to those two shows for different reasons. Your not going to tune in to Caprica expecting to see military shoot-outs, weird alien gizmos and enemy alien ships/bases blowing up real good, and you're not going to tune in to SGU expecting to see an actionless hour of people talking about the philosophical nature of the human soul and how dad was never for a character. Both shows can deliver the goods they're expected to, but one's a burger and the other's a steak.
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SyFy network, or SyFy...to the max!
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There's no use arguing with this guy. He's a rude nasty little troll that likes to get people worked up. He only wants attention and unfortunately we're giving him plenty.
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Hard to find out his deal if you don't ask. I've asked and found out he's parodying TBers. Not very well, but it's what he said he's doing. Now I know I won't post to him until he seems to want to contribute to some actual discussion.
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After the BSG finale, I have decided not to watch Craprica, because it just seems pointless. We know how it will all end; Caprica and the other 11 colonies will be destroyed by the Cylons. Then, five years later they will give up their technology and settle on the New Earth...and be eaten by sabretooth tigers within 1-2 years. I will probably like watching SGU, because I won't take it seriously. It may be a fun show to watch, and since it is a "Stargate" show it will on the air for at least three years. Good, clean, cheap Canadian television...and every outside shot will look like Toronto in the summer.
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Supposedly they're looking for more variety in their locations- and though they won't rule them out for the future, so far they've said they've used zero forested worlds.
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Ooh, what will it be I wonder. A arid dusty land, or a barren wasteland, or a rocky surface? OOOH. Or maybe it will be on a planet with....WTF TREES?
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Hahaa! <p> Oh this Trolling is fucking boring, like the above show. Dioxholster, you must be one sad Cunt to keep this up for a whole 24 hours and longer. And don't give me that "parody" shit. You were far too invested into it. You sad fucking loser.
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I'm hoping they do more cave episodes, I can't enough of the same cave set week in and week out!!<p> But my real hope is that they can redress the medieval village set 20 or 30 more times, because I could hardly tell it was the same set the first 80 times.<p> ZING!
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But at least caves are more plausible for a variety of worlds, even though SGA in particular used that cave setting too often. The village set, though- they made it for the Ori villages, and, IMO, were usually successful in redressing it for other locations, though sometimes you could tell it was the same. But every show redresses/repurposes sets like that.
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March 26, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST
Leafar the Lost & anyone else who says "we know how it will end"
by Amy Chasing
Is kinda missing the point of watching or even reading a story. Most stories we have some idea how they will end (eg. hero gets the girl; they save the world; the ship sinks). The point of watching is all the stuff that happens before the end. If that doesn't interest you, fair enough. But don't use that "we know how it will end" line as a legit reason. Then you may as well just not watch the last episode.
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March 27, 2009, 8:11 a.m. CST
The "we know how it will end" line is a legit reason...
by Leafar the Lost
...not to watch "Craprica", Amy Chasing. It isn't always the case. I watched the Star Wars episodes 1,2,& 3 movies, even though I knew how it would eventually end. The big difference that you missed, Amy Chasing, is that the Star Wars ending was very good, and the BSG finale was horrible in so many different ways. Also, I don't think that "Craprica" is going to really add that much to the story. Unless the show changes what we all ready know about the Cylons, and that horrible ending of having them all end up on our Earth 150,000 years ago, giving up technology, and then dying within 1-2 years for all sorts of reasons. Examples: lack of weapons, lack of medicine, lack of appropriate shelter, getting wiped out by a primitive, human tribe, etc. There is so much more I could go into, but I won't right now...Amy Chasing.
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March 27, 2009, 7:03 p.m. CST
So you think "Craprica" isn't going to add much to the story.
by Amy Chasing
That's a reason not to watch. Just go with that. <P> BTW, you never mentioned Star Wars before - so technically it's a difference I wasn't even aware of, let alone missed. <P> It's an interesting juxtaposition though... You won't watch the BSG prequel (possibly good) because the BSG ending is bad, but you did watch the Star Wars prequels (arguably bad) knowing the ending was good. Make of that what you will.
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