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Joel and Ethan Coen Have TRUE GRIT!!
Merrick here...
Joel and Ethan Coen are taking on Charles Portis' novel TRUE GRIT (available HERE ).
Not a traditional remake, the Paramount film will be more faithful to the Charles Portis book than the 1969 pic, also distributed by Par.
Portis' novel is about a 14-year-old girl who, along with an aging U.S. marshal and another lawman, tracks her father's killer in hostile Indian territory.
...says THIS ARTICLE in Variety.
TRUE GRIT was originally filmed in 1969 by director Henry Hathaway. John Wayne starred. Alfred Ryder, Ron Soble, Kim Darby, and John Fiedler also appeared - all of whom Geeks might recognize as guest stars on the original STAR TREK series).
The movie spawned a theatrical sequel called ROOSTER COGBURN (Wayne's character in the first film), and is famous for the smack talk/showdown between John Wayne and Robert Duvall - seen in the embed below.
Portis' novel is about a 14-year-old girl who, along with an aging U.S. marshal and another lawman, tracks her father's killer in hostile Indian territory.
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Do Blood Meridian next
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I like funny Soens better than serious Coens.
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and they are perfect for Blood Meridian
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Mar 23, 2009 9:47:23 AM CDT
Yeah, I'll bet they will be allowed to keep Portis's ending...
by stalin vs predator
Maggie, a bitter old maiden with her arm amputated after that rattlesnake adventure and LaBoeuf's death, drives to buy a tombstone for Rooster's funeral... a happy ending for the masses.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Stupid, Moriarty.
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hes kind of the go to guy for roles like these, but who better to play Rooster Cogburn?
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...could hire D-list actors to take a dump on screen and they'd make it good.
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One of my faves, but as it's the Coens they get carte blanche.
Never read the book, anybody know any glaring differences in character or anything?
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And yes, I highly anticipate ANYTHING by the Coens. Never saw the Wayne film either.
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What's the scoop on that?
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Mar 23, 2009 10:14:10 AM CDT
OH FOR FUCK SAKES, ARE THERE NO GREAT BOOKS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN MA
by thefuckingcreepythinman
Jesus fucking Christ, you know, back in the day Hollywood used to have readers who would go through the latest novels and rate them. Based on those ratings the studio's would take a look and if they liked the story they would option it or buy the rights. They would then attach a Producer, a Director, a Scriptwriter and then the stars and make the movie. Why can't Hollywood go back to that today?
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Since you bastards didn't even give the Rhinestone Cowboy a shout-out for his most famous film role! "I ain't dead yet, you bushwacker!" And Miley Cyrus in the Kim Darby role, with her just-screaming-for-an-Oscar dad Billy Ray as the baddie...
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You know you'd like to see him do this.
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which was only okay by Coen standards. This sounds like it could be great, though. Always like to see the Brothers take on classic Hollywood genres.
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Puh-leeze! There's not an actor in or out of Hollywood who's man enough to carry John Wayne's hat for him, let alone wear it! I wonder what meterosexual nancyboy the Cohen's will dredge up for this? Shia? Oh... that's right... they want an aging marshall... They'll probably go with Leonardo!
And the sad part is, I actually like a lot of the Cohens work, but c'mon! Trying to mess with John Wayne's westerns is like trying to replace Heston in the 10 Commandments! -
First off, when does anyone who can't spell the filmmaker's name/ names get off ridiculing and criticizing them?
Secondly, as the article says, the film will be much closer in line with the novel than the Wayne film. Although, in all fairness, I can't think of a single remake that claimed to be more in line with the book that was better than the original (Charlie and the Chocolate Factory springs to mind, as a particularly egregious one)
And third, when have the COENS ever relied on stunt or Hollywood trendy casting? Was it John Goodman, or Steve Buscemi? Maybe it was Jeff Daniels or Frances McDormand? Josh Brolin perhaps? Sure Pitt and Clooney are stars, but the Coens always pick actors that are right for the roles. -
...John Wayne is a fat, cowardly, closeted homosexual who couldn't act for shit.
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I love John Wayne films. And while I don't think he's a the world's best actor, he found something he was good at and nailed it pretty much every time (his Oscar is for True Grit).
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I didn't spell their names right! Everything I said is invalidated by a grammar nazi! I get off because I'm right, even if I didn't spell a name properly.
Other movies have tried to get back in line with the original source material. SOme have failed, some have succeeded. Big whoop. It really isn't about the source material, IMHO. John Wayne absolutely owned True Grit and Rooster Cogburn. You won't find an actor to fill his shoes. They don't exist.
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Daniel Day Lewis would be a great Moses.
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But even SUGGESTING that the Coes would cast Shia or Leo (and I could see them using Leo to great effect in something else), is just plain fucking ignorance. I would almost put money that they go for Tommy Lee Jones first. He may not be the manly man that Wayne was, but I don't think anyone does the quiet intensity of an aging man on a mission like he does.
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...though I'm quite sure there are plenty of equally obnoxious starlets around today.I dunno, this just seems an unlikely project for the Coens. About as unlikey as the suggestion (you know who you are!) that G-DT cast Adam Sandler as Bilbo Baggins in The Hobbit.
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its not a remake exactly...whatever
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...for THE SPANISH PRISONER.
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That idiot may have misspelled Coen as Cohen, but you name checked Jeff Daniels as inspired Coen bros. casting. While he would be great in a Coen bros. movie, I don't think he's ever been in one. If you got him mixed with Jeff Bridges, then shame on you.
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...could easily fill John Wayne's original boots.Uh-oh, looks like someone misspelled the "Coes" too {[:^)
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...it's one of the many subsets of Murphy's Law: Whenever a TB poster gigs another on spelling, they will inevitably misspell the same name/word.
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Are they out of their ever loving minds... You don't go off and remake John Wayne Movies.... on the other hand... no wait there is no other hand... You just don't do this... ugh.
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Why..? I mean why..? Sure, make it more faithful to the book, so it's not officially a remake. But it won't be a literal version will it? So in a few years another can be made that's MORE faithful to the book, and so it goes on. Remake after remake.
The Coens make great films... Fargo - inspired! Oh Brother Where art Thou - Brilliant! ...wait a minute, The Ladykillers... Coincidentally, a remake. No neeed! -
Portis is one of the funniest writers in the history of America. I like the movie version okay, but John Wayne was NEVER right for Rooster Cogburn, as depicted in the book. This will be hilarious if done half-way right.
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Mar 23, 2009 11:31:40 AM CDT
I'll own up, I've gotten Daniels and Bridges confused ever since
by cartagia
like 10. Bad with names like that. I always forget the difference in Lynch and Cronenberg when it comes to the more obscure films a lot too. And as for "Coes", I fucked up and typoed, as I want to do. BUT I didn't put an "H" in there as is so often the case when people talk about these guys.
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Please god let this be a wind up! How can you touch perfection? All they're going to do is PISS all over it! Tommy Lee Jones is fine, and all, but he's no Duke! Stick to comedies guys leave the classics alone...I thought "The Ladykillers" debacle would've taught them better? 'Nuff said!
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go down the list of films that should Never Be Remade or "re-imagined"--some tool is gonna try it: "it needs 'updating'" is code for "otherwise, I got nuttin...."
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A classic uncomplicated western story, where character development leads the way. Although, a remake, but not really- it's a novel idea for nowadays. Need a big man for Rooster IMO....let's see...an unknown like C&W's Toby Keith..was going to say Trace Atkins, but he's way to stoic. Finding a sassy, inner-tough & earthy female to play the 14 year old will be tough. Oh yeah, I'm a big Duke fan & don't see a conflict w/this.
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I love the Coen Bros. work and find when they stick to period pieces they tend to elevate the material and the feel of the film. Miller's Crossing, Barton Fink, O Brother, Where Art Thou? all work on another level all together due to their period settings.
The Coens have proven that they can capture the modern Western aesthetic with No Country For Old Men so there's little doubt that they can pull off a pretty damn awesome period set Western as well. I look forward to this film (as well as any other future projects) by the Coen Bros. -
I was wrong again... there IS a part for Shia in this!
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I mean if your gonna remake a Duke flick, theres so many that you could remake and make BETTER, i.e. Chisum, Train Robbers, War Wagon, even the Sons of Katie Elder would make for an EXCELLENT remake! But there are certain Duke movies you just shouldnt touch, i.e The Searchers, Red River, The Cowboys (very under appreciated movie) and of course any of the early Ford/Wayne collaberations. True Grit is such a wonderful wonderful movie, it would really be tough to see it remade. Kinda like making Magnum PI into some stupid Dodgeball type movie spoof, I just couldnt bear to see that. That being said I do love the Coen Bros. Oh, and for those who say Duke couldnt act, the Searchers is arguably the greatest western of all time, that cant be by accident, can it? I also recommend that you watch She Wore A Yellow Ribbon and the Quiet Man as further proof that he CAN act.....
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...John Wayne is a fat, cowardly, closeted homosexual who couldn't act for shit." You are as pathetically misguided as your name. The Duke was majestic, a Mount Rushmore of an actor who became iconic and will be remembered long after you are dust! Watch "The Searchers", "Red River", "The Quiet Man" and "True Grit" and SHUT THE FUCK UP!! P.S. I neither know nor care if he was gay or not; but I'm sure any of his three wives ( and numerous kids) could provide an insight! Arsehole! -
I *think*, but I'm not sure that, Four Brothers was a modern day retelling of The Sons of Katie Elder, and I found that to be a damn fine movie.
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This has a fatter, older, bearded and grizzled Jeff Bridges written ALL OVER IT...he needs to place it serious though. He would be absolutely perfect. This is coming from someone who has seen the original at least 30 times
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Wow, I know the movie...Whalberg, right? Interesting, I never put 2 and 2 together on that one. It does make sense though. Id like to see a REAL remake of TSOKE, set as a period piece. Its a great story and I dont think the original was as good as it could have been. Plus, if memory serves, Duke was in BAD shape after having just had surgery for cancer (1960?) and had an oxygen tank off set. You can see it in his performance. Thanks for the post
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destroyer of Coen Bros. films.
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For a while now. They done shot their load.
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One thing is for sure it's going to be nearly impossible to find an actor out there with half of John Wayne's personality. You need living legend status to fill those boots and not many names (who are still fit enough to ride a horse) come to mind. Clint Eastwodd comes to mind but I think that might be bad casting completely. I just watched "The Cowboys" for the first time last night because I remember Warner Bros wanted to remake that. Once again, I would not envy the actor fittin that role.
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Well said indeed...I think his hardcore rightwing politics affected the way people thought of him as an actor. Im not sure if you have seen it but rent The Cowboys. It is as heartfelt performance as he has ever done, excpet for maybe The Shootist. I think its a disgrace that he didnt at least get nominated for the Shootist which is a damm fine performance
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tis true there is few actors with "presence" like in the old days of Duke, Cagney, Bogie, etc (im only 40 btw). Im trying to think of a few names that have that kinda screen presence. I guess Daniel Day Lewis DOES have that aura about him. Other than that Im really drawing a blank. Any thoughts?
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I see Mickey Rourke, maybe Russel Crowe although It's hard to imagine anyone besides Wayne as Cogburn. The only younger actress I can think of is, unfortunately, Dakota Fanning. I don't care for any of the other no talent sluts.
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Mar 23, 2009 12:15:05 PM CDT
It's not like they're remaking Searchers or Liberty Valence or S
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And Rock Hudson is his bitch
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The Western is my particular favorite American-centric genre (sorry musicals) and it has been spinning at the end of its rope for quite awhile now. It's really good to see this resurgence in Western films. Now, if only the Western could invade television again, in a high quality form (ie. The Rifleman, Gunsmoke, Bonanza) now that would be something cool to see.
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I have seen, and loved, both "The Cowboys" and "The Shootist"; as i'm far too aged to really be posting on here. It's shitbags like "Whinybitch" that give movie forums a bad name! If it HAS to be remade how about Brian Dennehy/Jeff Bridges/Clint Eastwood or ,my favourite, Sam Elliott for Rooster?
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I hope. Anyways this sounds like it could be good.
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I call bullshit.
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Mar 23, 2009 12:33:00 PM CDT
50 Cent and Rourke are in this..wait no their not
by nobody_touches_buddy_revell
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I heard a rumor somewhere that Clint was done acting.....not sure....Sam Elliot, THERES an idea! Denehey....eh, I dunno. Sam Elliot has done wonders for TNT and the Western, him and Selleck...
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They absolutely have to give Glen Campbell a role in this.
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Im with ya.....
Id say the last greap epic western has to be Unforgiven, with perhaps one of the greatests scores in film history (that acoustic guitar gets me every time) and while Im ranting, I know it won its fair share of Oscars, but Eastwood deserved to win it that year, he really did. Who won that year? Im too lazy to look it up. Did you ever watch Wanted Dead or Alive w- McQueen, that was some good shit..... -
That's a great, forgotten Western about the end of an era and betrayal, massive, massive betrayal. McQueen's badass Tom Horn is iconic. That seems to be an overused word as of late, but in terms of Tom Horn it is more than fitting.
Oh yeah, and Unforgiven is one of my DVDs with the most spins. Absolutely beautiful film and Eastwood should have won best actor. Then again, the Academy Awards are a fuckin' joke. -
True Grit under John Wayne and Kim Darby is a classic and forever etched in my memory. I'd prefer the Coens tackle new material, because I suspect this will fail, on many levels. Oh well.
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Just askin'...I tip my hat off to Robert Duvall, Tommy Lee Jones, Danny Glover, Diane Lane, Robert Urich, Anjelica Huston, Rick Schroder, and the rest of the wonderful cast. Oh yeah, Larry McMurtry.
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Some days you eat the bar, some days the bar eats you.
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I cannot conjure up a single name that is even on John Wayne's level of stardom that has appearing in the last fifteen years. The closest are Will Smith and Tom Hanks and even they aren't even close. I'd say it's mostly beacuse audiences are just too wise to how the media is these days. Some might say cynical. It just seems childish to imagine any actor as larger than life. This isn't a discussion about acting talent (we all know there are some seriously talented actors out there) but a matter of just being interesting at all times. Once again I'd like to bring up Clint Eastwood. The guy is just plain interesting no matter what career he chooses. I live in LA and see certain people (at the Grove or whatever) and usually the only thing that crosses my mind is, "They look so short off camera" while in the case of Clint Eastwood the only thing I though was "Holy crap that's Clint Eastwood."
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I second the Eastwood suggestions. How great would it be for Hollywood's two greatest cowboys, icons of their day, to have tackled the same role. I would pay just to see Clint's take on Rooster, he appearing as the character in the twilight of his career - just as Wayne did. They put Eastwood in this and I smell another Brando/DeNiro oscar given for the same character.
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...with a bowling pin because he stole a bunch of classic folks records from some historian....of course he didn't do anything once Dylan phased him with his superior logic....well....that and john waynes a big pussy...
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Awesome!!! Remake of a classic John Wayne movie? Not so awesome. The remake of The Sons of Katie Elder, Four Brothers really worked for me though. With the Coens doing this I have total faith, but I'd still like to see them cover new ground.
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Sorry Sergio Leone movies fuck John Wayne movies into oblivion. John Wayne acted like John Wayne.
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already knows how to act with an eye patch over the left eye!
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Mar 23, 2009 2:28:34 PM CDT
"THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU FUCK A HORSE IN THE ASS!"
by nasty in the pasty
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOle5GPLpoM
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Think you've got your Dylan stories mixed up a little there.
According to Chronicles, Dylan did meet Wayne on a set of a movie his then-girlfriend was appearing in. Wayne went up to him and said something like, "I hear you're a folksinger, so sing me a song." And Dylan sung him Buffalo Girls.
No bowling pins involved.
I'd prefer if the Coens were making something original but I'm up for whatever they do. I don't think True Grit was one Wayne's better films, anyway. It was a very broad performance and definitely a 'career Oscar' cos they'd ignored him so many times before (he should have won for Searchers or Red River).
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Although that may have been the Cormac McCarthy source material. I like the Coens when they are serious, as long as it's like Blood Simple or Fargo.
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That's the Coen Brothers I like.
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The original was a classic...leave it alone. You want a good book for the Coen's to adapt to film...one that hasn't bee done yet: ALAS, BABYLON .
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What in the name of fuck is a "period Oater"? Somebody ought to string those Variety cocks up by their wank stained scrotums.
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Not everything the coens touch turns to gold. Lady Killers was a tepid remake of a classic Ealing movie. I'm really getting sick of these remakes as it doesn't leave much for the seasoned filmgoer to enjoy. This will suck. What's next... The Searchers?
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but didn't some historian on no direction home tell some story about john wayne chasing him around with a bowling pin....maybe that was just another guy with the name john wayne...
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film?
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I thought the Coen's Ladykillers was better than the original, although I gotta admit Alec Guinness was extraordinary in the orig. But overall, plot-wise, supporting character-wise, stunt-wise, almost everything-wise, the Coen version was better.
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...from Paul Nelson -a music writer, I believe - who went with a friend to confront him (possibly with a bowling pin, I can't remember). The story is told in No Direction Home, I don't remember the details but it definitely didn't involve John Wayne.
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what you said about 'No Country'. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I gotta say I think your opinion is not well-considered there.
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I don't know how else to put it. I want to be clear because, upon clarity our very LIVES depend: TinselTown is so fucked up with fevered egos (ever was it thus) all thrashing around in a mire of hackneyed ideas, and flat out money grubbing panic, that ANYTHING GOES, as far as they're concerned. Any old classic-raping, ball-busting, tripe-speaking nonsense (masquerading as "Entertainment")...I blame George Lucas..but then I always do!
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Hey Eskimo, I was in Florida week before last on vacation and was telling someone about that book. read in in school back in the 70s. I'd go see that. As for the Duke? Always enjoy his movies. He can be himself in most of them but he sure put a lot of himself in them. I like some of his more offbeat roles like Trouble Along the Way where he plays a single dad raising a little girl.
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Seriously, who is going to know that. Most people know True Grit as a John Wayne movie. The remake will probably just lead to confusion (Why are they remaking a John Wayne movie, why is it so different, etc?).
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...I guess I just loved this image of a skinny defenseless Bob Dylan going up against the larger than life alpha male icon and disarming him with logic... like some sort of Biblical showdown... probably says more about my perception than anything else...
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the Coens just might cast Steve Buscemi as the Rooster.
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Saoirse Ronan and Josh Brolin would be perfect i think. And by the time this movies released...ROnan's going to be a 15 year old 2-time oscar nominee...cast her!!!
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I read the book as a kid before seeing the movie, and I was *really* fucking disappointed - John Wayne or no. I can't WAIT to see the Coens finally do the book justice.
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c'mon Joel and Ethan...it'll be the stuff legendary films are made of...i certainly hope they still have that idea cooking up in their backburner (pun definitely intended).
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Rooster is chubby. Remember (or read the novel) - Ned Pepper and the two strange brothers even mock him for that. Stallone was willing to get fattish for the so-damn-underrated "Copland"; Clint Eastwood, meanwhile, is like pemmican and while he could easily cut practically everyone in Hollywood in half with one look (*) - but he'll never be chubby.
(*) Especially the modern so-called "action stars" - can you even think of a single "new action star" that isn't a pathetic, laughable jackass? Assfleck perhaps, or that bald English moron? They might be right for a parody, perhaps...) -
...In some cases is valid. I don't doubt that the book is much better than whats on screen with True Grit, which is a shitty film starring a shitty actor (not being American, there is no cultural mob mentallity blinding me to the horribly acting of John Wayne, or the usually horrible films he appears in) and like Stephen Kings The Running Man, its probably got a much better film in it. Jesus, its fucking True Grit. John Wayne has what...The Searchers...and? Stagecoach and other Ford films are interesting cinematic stepping stones. Like Birth Of A Nation. The worst thing about this news is that its not To The White Sea. drewlicious, its a result of actors having to have a much broader appeal now. I know that sounds strange, but heres what I mean; DiCaprio. He appeals to little girls and women, and hes also talented. However, he's just about the worst choice to play a Boston street thug, or an Irish gangster. Yet there he is. It dilutes his presence in the long run. Hollywood won't cast films appropriately. Its very rare to see a Charles Bronson type in the films they belong in, so in the end all we get is a watered down batch of easily interchangeable magazine cover ready celebrities.
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FUCK YOU! YEah! Let's redo the Searchers and cast Tom Hanks in it! Oooo OOooo Oooo I know I know I know lets do better let's put in Russell Fucking Crowwwwwwwwe.... Asshats. Fuck off.
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you know its possible
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Gimme a break. Wayne wasn't gay. Randolph Scott was gay. Maybe You are gay, I donno nor do I care. He couldn't act? Really? You musta slept thru the Searchers, Sands of Iwo Jima, Red River and the Cowboys.I'll remember this the next time I see you creaming your pants over DeCrapio or Crowe. You're being an asshat here. Piss off and die.
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Listen I saw the man in person, and can tell you a few dozen stories the locals here in NH and VT have about the man. Bronson on screen rocked. He also had the range of a rock. Off screen he could be a bitchy pushy prima donna and treated people like shit because his asteroids were acting up on a given day in Hanover or Windsor or whatever. Yahhhhhhhhhh. Chucky 5-6 if I'm 5-5 on a box Bronson.
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Duvall himself is a natural for Cogburn. But will they extend the casting to include someone to take Glen Campbell's place like Toby Keith? Will he sing a lame title song?And just how different is the book? That couldn't be filmed in the late sixties..Cogburn and the lil lady sleeping together? Is that enough of a post modern spin?I love the Coens, and this isn't a "classic" classic, but it is the Duke's Oscar winning role.
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I guess it is only a matter of time before Dirty Harry gets remade staring Hugh Jackman or Vin Diesel.
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You can't be too careful!
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I pointed out that you made a mistake in the Brian Tyler story, and so you decide to delete ALL MY POSTS from today to get back at me? What the Hell is wrong with you?
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On the Duke. Its like hating on Bogie or Cagney. I just dont get it? Is it his political views? Sure the guy wast Olivier or Hoffman, but he was a LEGEND. McQueen wasnt the greatest actor either but he was a LEGEND. They both have a lot in common. They dominated the screen in a way no actor today can. Duke was also the consumate professional, never bitched, always showed up for work on time. Much like when McQueen did Papillon, when Duke did red River for Hawks, people realized he WAS A good actor. And yeah, I know itas been said over and over again, but the Searchers IS that good of a movie. Its the pinnacle of Dukes carrer and is the finest direction Ford has ever done (a bold statement). Duke is absolutely awsome in it, and almost 60 years later, it still stands up. THATS a movie that cannot EVER be remade. As for someone else playing rooster? Im not gonna bitch about it, but it would be like someone else playing Thomas Magnum, I just cant see it. Of course maybe people felt that way when Connery was playing Bond?
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Fill your hands ya son of a bitch.
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Now I know many of the posters here were born after Mr. Wayne died. And many who are old enough to remember while he was alive never met the man. So, let me say I have.
I met Mr. Wayne a couple of times, on both occasions he was very polite and friendly, not just to me, but to any fans who came by to say hello. He would encourage fans to play chess with him and gladly speak to people. Even if he was going somewhere, he would wave to fans as he left.
I am not nor have I been in agreement with Mr. Wayne's politics, yet even there we agreed on several things. People who used their office for their own benefit, or who would speak out of both sides of their face depending on who was listening, those are people we both held in contempt. People who shoot off their mouths without a clue as to what the truth is really just deserve a bit of pity and encouragement to go away.
Mr. Wayne did not just have political leanings, he had values. He held celebrity tennis matches as fund raisers for charity. He went down to Mexico to do a documentary on an orphanage, Los Hermanos Pequenos, to help raise funds. I know he visted troops and to the day he died, he wore the POW-MIA bracelet he owned. I know my bracelet got lost within a couple of weeks of it breaking. I doubt too many other people kept track of theirs either.
I have never thought of Mr. Wayne as the caricature many people mistake for person. I know he worked at developing a group of people who appeared in film after film. How often do you see these traits in Hollywood today? Keep some of these things in mind when you judge the man. -
Fill your hands ya COCKSUCK'N son of a bitch!
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I think you better fill your hands with something. Yeah, you son of, of a monkey's, monkey's vagina...yeah.
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You best back the fuck off you honky ass mother fucker!
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You know you better best fill your hands with a gun, cause I'm about to shoot ya.
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Ghost Dog as Rooster, Some NFL linebacker as Rooster, um,
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Wellum beeb bee beyou better fill hem dem hands wid dem bebe poob dedum pood'n pops.
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First Joel Scummaker turns Batman and Robin into a big gay nipplefest. Then the Farrely brothers want to turn the Three Stooges into juvenile poop jokes. Now someone is planning on desecrating The Duke. I have 2 main reasons to be pissed off. 1) Don't try to "reimagine" something that was a classic before you "not an original brain in your body jackasses" screw with it. 2) If you want to remake something that you think you can improve, start at the bottom. Something that wasn't a classic, but you think you can make it one. If you're as talented as you think you are, then i'll be waiting with baited breath as you pick up your Oscar for the "reimagining" of "When Justim Met Kelly." Or better yet, you Hollywood pinheads could actually truy to create an ORIGINAL movie. If you must "remake" things , be imaginitive. This guy named George wanted to make a movie based on the old sci-fi serials he watched as a child. So he came up with something called "Star Wars." Maybe you've heard of it.
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I like the Coen Brothers and they strike me as good filmmakers. I trust them to do right by their writer. It might not be a film Mr. Wayne would have liked, but I probably will.
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as Rooster. no body else could do it
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Mar 23, 2009 7:06:42 PM CDT
Wow...I feel oddly straightened out for some reason right now
by drbrianoblivion
...is it okay though If i continue to remember him as a bloated grouchy super american... who at night, drapes himself in the american flag and takes to the streets, rounding up mexicans...all in the name of a safer, whiter, america.
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Or Clint Eastwood if he's available. I loved the original (wow, young Dennis Hopper, aging DOES suck), but a remake from the guys who more often than not make movies that kill off people I don't want to see killed off? Eh, maybe on DVD.
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Thats just a fucking retarted statement, really now. I dont know if you are just pissed off, or dont like the guys politics, but whatever. Youre injecting politics into a discussion where there is none. And yeah, this was the 50's and 60's, the guy was a patriotic american who loved his country. For the record, he was a huge defender of native american rights, and married dark skinned South American women multiple times, so you be the judge. I think your being a bit harsh on the guy. He had a fine body of work film wise.
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For Fucks Sake! - Create NEW ideas, and STOP ripping everybody off.
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...i've realized thats what everyone else does here so what's the big deal....i care the least for politics or John Wayne. Im sure he did his part and recycled and everything. All I was saying is the character that lives in my head that goes by the name of John Wayne is a little different. I guess I just dont find facts a requirement when your talking about celebrities, especially when they've been dead for a long enough period that they've become mythical. John Wayne could have killed the last dragon for all I know.
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Might as well. The film will no doubt suck anyway.
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Think he may be a bit old for this? He was looking pretty damn frail-ish in Gran Torino. Then again he's Clint Eastwood and I'm a schmuck.
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A huge waste of talent and film. I won't see it.
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how did those 4 guys miss him?
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"Stick to comedies guys leave the classics alone..."
Uhhh, MILLER'S CROSSING, hello? That's an amazing movie by the Coens and it aint no comedy. Boy, you're just proving what a fucking ignorant douchebag you in talkback after talkback. Take a dirtnap you fuckin' ugly, hack with a dog-faced cheese pussy whore for a girlfriend. Hi, Kiley! -
Even when their mediocre (see Burn After Reading) they're still heads and shoulders above 90% of everything else I'll watch in a year. Throw Josh Brolin in the Rooster role, find some unknowns for the others and we could have some break outs in a film known for its iconic roles. Leave the Duke is where is: immortalized for his tremendous talent and rightfully so. That however, does not make this an impossible film to make, especially if you wish to stay more true to the book.
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Go Moriarty! Inspired statement.
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And I'm usually 50/50 on Coen flicks. I hate No Country, but love Millers Crossing and Raising Arizona. But I think a Coen Superman could be really something awesome like Moriarty described. I don't know how they'd handle the action however, but anything is better than the bench pressing nail-biters in Superman Returns I suppose....
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They need to leave John Wayne movies alone. Hell, they need to leave old movies alone and come up with some original shit!
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I don't get the constant blowjobs all you big fat fags keep giving the Coen Brothers. Seeing that steaming pile of horseshit they made a couple of years ago where the main character is a bigger fucktard than any coed in a slasher movie (minus the shower scene -at least slasher movies know how to keep my attention) and the villain pumps locks off doors with an aqualung or some retarded shit, then talks to his victims and tries to bore them to death (which almost worked on me when I was watching that piece of shit) makes me hope a horse on the set rears up and kicks both of those assholes in the fucking face.
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His review of Raising Arizona: "I have a problem with movies where everybody talks as if they were reading out of an old novel about a bunch of would-be colorful characters. They usually end up sounding silly. For every movie like 'True Grit' that works with lines like 'I was determined not to give them anything to chaff me about,' there is a "Black Shield of Falworth,' with lines like 'Yonder lies the castle of my father.' Generally speaking, it's best to have your characters speak in strong but unaffected English, especially when your story is set in the present. Otherwise they'll end up distracting the hell out of everybody."
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I thought they did the movie correctly the first time. No need to remake at all.
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BALZACS_BALLSAC: Proof positive that the American education system is failing it's children, spectacularly! You're a perfect argument from retroactive abortion! P.S. How did you know about my girlfriends cheesy pussy? Damn it, I new she was seeing someone else!! The Coens are as "Hit and Miss" as your grasp of the English language. TWAT!!
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I hate it when typos go through!! "For" and "Knew" obviously!!
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Captain Rooster Cogburn battles a space squid, while chasing down a bunch of Space Pirates in their Galleon.
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50 Cent as Rooster Cogburn
Shia La Beouf as La Boeuf
Sienna Miller as Mattie Ross
Jeff Bridges as Long John Blackbeard -
...People keep saying leave the classics alone. True Grit fucking stinks man. Its a shitty film. The book HAS to be better than this crap to have justified the flicks exsistance. John Wayne also fucking sucks. He's a past era equivilant of fucking Chuck Norris. Only less cool.
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mac 10 motherfucker
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CHUCK NORRIS!!! You have got to be fucking kidding me! I suppose Leo and Chuck go skipping, hand in hand through your homo-erotic fantasies, you crass fuckwit!!
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And being as its been 15+ years since Unforgiven, I doubt he'll change his tune. Sam Elliot's a great choice but no way - not a lead actor.
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Mar 24, 2009 5:40:44 AM CDT
"Alfred Hitchcock is the modernday equivalent of Michael Bay"
by jackrabbitslim
Wow - isn't it easy to make blanket statements without anything to back it up? Hmmm, lets see - John Wayne's best films - Red River, Stagecoach, Quiet Man, Rio Bravo, Fort Apache, Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. Chuck Norris - Enter the Dragon ... um .... You could make the argument that either John Wayne or Charlie Chaplin was the most popular actor in the world in the 20th century. Oh, thats right, geeks notoriously hate anything thats popular. Try to lift themselves up from the unwashed masses who so thoroughly reject them Ah yes, the "he cant act" bit - reminds me of the late 80s early 90s when it was in vogue to trash Hitchcock who, afterall, never won an academy award and couldn't direct. I'd put Wayne in the Sean Connery mode - he coasted by far too often but when pressed, typically by John Ford,(just like Connery was only rarely pressed in films like "the Hill" or "The Offence") he put out quality perfs.
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I'm sure someone has already pointed this out, but the embedded clip with Duvall is from True Gritt, not Rooster Cogburn. If Christian Bale were here, he'd say "fucking amature, man!"
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Fill you hands! It's only logical!!!
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Val Kilmer as Rooster? He's already got the bloated part down.
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It's an attempt to GET THE BOOK RIGHT, which the 'first' movie never did.
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they make great films and are never afraid to do what they want.
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I realize that among big fat fags (you know, YOU!) badmouthing John Wayne is a way to prove your cred, but you might be more convincing if you weren't constantly whacking off while fantasizing about Christian Bale (the chief heartthrob of the big fat fag), longing for him to leave peckertracks on your multiple chins.
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but the coens should be adapting AS I LAY DYING....imagine what they could do with that...maybe if they set it in 1960s D-town during the race riots....how bad ass!
As for Tim Burton....he should do NOTES FROM THE UNDERGROUND....
and Ridley Scott should get Blood Meridian so once and for all you'd see just what a pussy he is.
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Randolph Scott could make a jock-strap out of his flabby ass.
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prove yet again how truly hateful, intolerant, and close-minded they are. Villify one of the most legendary stars of cinema because he has the nerve to disagree with their self-proclaimed "progressive" views, all the while wearing a Che' T-shirt (you know, the murderous, anti-freedom, homosexual-hating piece of shit all you idiots love?).
I have faith that one day, some of you will grow up or throw away the meds that accelerate your condition... -
you prove yet again how truly hateful, intolerant, and close-minded conservatives are. I am liberal and I hate Che' and hate his T-shirt.
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Anybody who says MILLERS CROSSING is a "miss" for the Coens is just about as big a cum drinking homo as this site gets. Someone should've kicked your pregnant mother in the stomach to not only rid the world of your stupidity but hard enough also to ensure the mistake that is you was never repeated.
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Learn to spell fuckwad before you accuse others of their "grasp of the English language." Now excuse me I need to shit on your ugly ginger whore hag you call a girlfriend.
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Here, here. Well said.Also, I'm not a liberal by any stretch of the imagination. I just think John Wayne was a fat punk who couldn't act his way out of a wet paper bag. A real-life pussy (several anecdotes about what a pussy he was abound) who made a good living pretending to be hard. The queer guy who babysits my kid could beat the shit out of John Wayne.Now, Randolph Scott in those Budd Boetecher movies? That's the real deal.
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...I think Buscemi would NAIL it! Of course, I still owe you one for suggesting Adam Sandler be cast as Bilbo Baggins in the upcoming Hobbit flick. Why I oughta...
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to bleetingsheep68. Just, you know, for accuracy's sake.
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Mar 24, 2009 11:18:52 AM CDT
Since the Coens Like To Use Actors They've Worked With Before...
by dinsdale12
...why not John Goodman? "That's pretty bold talk for a one-eyed, fat man!" would totally work with him. Plus, he can really act. He would be an interesting choice.
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Good call Dinsdale.I think many of you miss the mark complaining about this being a re-make. It ain't...it's the Coen's having thier go at adapting the book. Otherwise, it would be like saying Jackson shouldn't have done Lord of the Rings because Ralph Bakshi had already done it (ha-ha!). Say what you may, Jackson's effort was far, far superior and I have no doubt the Coen's will come up with a great adaptation of True Grit.
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Remaking a movie should only be considered of the original had promise, but blew. Or was way ahead of it's time, and today's effects help out with the plot.
Why remake an award winning movie? In 20 years are they going to do Forrest Gump again? The Godfather? Western Remakes are not a good idea. In the 50's Westerns didn't need effects, or better acting. You don't need techna-color to get High Noon.
Remake Soylent Green, Iron Eagle or the American Ninja series. -
...just because someone else beat them to the punch decades prior? I agree, I'd always like to see new things first but I guess I'm just not getting the whole default-mode anti-remake prejudice. Sure, be as emotional and sentimental about True Grit as you please but it's not like it's some sacred thing just because John Wayne got an Oscar for it.
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goodman as rooster, zooey as the girl and lewis as the villain. search your feelings you know this to be true. goodman is an inspired choice. he was incredible in raising arizona and the big lebowski.
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I love Zooey Deschanel as much as the next guy, maybe more, but I think she might a little too old for the role.
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I just don't know if some of you guys are seriously demented or are just trolls but there have been some particularly outrageous comments made about both the Coens and the Duke. But I'm going to assume that either way, there's no point in correcting you.
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i got a little too excited. i'm sure they will cast a relative unknown child actress. should be good though. the western is my favorite genre. but i am not a very sophisticated film buff. so i'm very selective about which westerns i watch. but the thought of a coen western is a very exciting thought. their sensibilities i believe would make for a fantastic western. hell i even liked ladykillers, so how do you like them apples.
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I have no idea who they are contemplating as Rooster Cogburn, but I sure hope it's not Tommy Lee Jones. I find that choice rather boring and expected. And I hope it's not stunt casting of Robert Duvall, either. If I were given the choice, I'd go with Harrison Ford.
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Ever since "THE FRISCO KID" I have longed to see Harrison Ford riding tall in the saddle of a great western. I think this would be a great choice to have him play Rooster Cogburn.
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didn't he get some stupid retarded medal from Jimmy Carter?
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Mar 24, 2009 6:09:45 PM CDT
NEW RULE: Randolph Scott was the MAN, but he's still dead.
by bill maher
Which is too bad. I loved his movies. Speaking of Randolph Scott...
It was bad enough when they churned out a shitty remake of 3:10 to Yuma. Now they're about to shit all over True Grit. If anyone so much as THINKS about fucking around with Ride the High Country I will make it a point to see them suffer. You think Freddie Prinze Junior got flamed ten years ago? That's NOTHING compared to what I'll post about them in my impotent rage.
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He's grizzled and needs a good role. Plus despite some of recent choices he still has iconic status.
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"crass fuckwit"? Who do you thnk you are? That's the most pretentious remark Ive ever heard. YouRe a piece of shit.
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I was actually just about to post the very same. And also being completely serious. One of Ford's earliest gigs was in a western. Not sure of the name right off..."Journey To/From Shiloh" something like that. If I remember correctly he didn't have many lines though.
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Now that I've said it, you can't stop thinking about it, can you?
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RANDOLPH SCOTT!!!
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He's a Coen vet too.
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That means Dakota Fanning is going to get the first offer.
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but I can't picture her in a Coens movie.
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Pussy...
Source IMDB:
"The evening before a shoot he [Wayne] was trying to get some sleep in a Las Vegas hotel. The suite directly below his was that of Frank Sinatra (never a good friend of Wayne), who was having a party. The noise kept Wayne awake, and each time he made a complaining phone call it quieted temporarily but each time eventually grew louder. Wayne at last appeared at Sinatra's door and told Frank to stop the noise. A Sinatra bodyguard of Wayne's size approached saying, "Nobody talks to Mr. Sinatra that way." Wayne looked at the man, turned as though to leave, then backhanded the bodyguard, who fell to the floor, where Wayne knocked him out by crashing a chair on top of him. The party noise stopped." -
I like Ian McShane and John Goodman - those were two good suggestions earlier. McShane could make him crusty and scary as hell, but I like the idea of John Goodman in a role where he gets to really act, and not just play the comic relief. Goodman has seemingly phoned it in over the past few years, but he has the chops. Whether execs will let him headline outside of his casted type, that remains to be seen. Another good Rooster could be Kurt Russell, but he's "been there done that" in the eyepatch department. Brendan Gleeson would be awesome as well, but he has the same eyepatch problem as Russell.
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..and no, I don't love Christian Bale: the Duke conspired with the anti-communist witchhunts while real men like Bogart were telling that fat fuck MCarthy where to stick his supoenas: he had no kind of life before or after acting. Lee Marvin really saw hell in the Pacific; a REAL tough guy, McQueen did every hardass job and got into every kind of trouble, Mitchum was a real maverick, even DAVID NIVEN was in the Royal Marines. Marion did shit all except lie about an injury to keep his sports scholarship. Of all the famous golden age tough guys, Wayne was the smallest minded, the least physically brave, the dumbest; but hell: he was tall. No wonder you people elected Reagan's hair to the highest office in the land.
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Lee Marvin witnessed (and may have committed) atrocities in WWII. Wayne hit a guy in the Vegas hotel. Sheesh.
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FYI, The Sons of Katie Elder HAS been remade, sorta... Four Brothers is a non-western Sons...
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You're nothing more than a chub-chasing faggy little fanboi. Grow up.
Hell, Ford used to get pissed at Wayne because during lunch he'd be out on the back lot bare-knucle boxing with the Stuntmen and would stretch the makeup crew's talents trying to clean up his face. Yeah... real pussy there... I'll bet you little twats who're calling Wayne a pussy cry in empathy when someone screams "Leave Britney alone!" -
God I hope that story is at least partly true. Just because Sinatra's posturing just seemed insufferable to me.
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