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‘She Will Not Fail Us!!’ SciFi Launches The Last Episode Of BATTLESTAR GALACTICA Ever!!

UPDATE: At Monday's screening of the "Battlestar Galactica" series finale in Manhattan, series mastermind Ronald D. Moore fielded spoiler-rich post-screening questions. You can find Discover Magazine's report on that session here. You can find Chicago Tribune writer Maureen Ryan's spoiler-happy discussion of the finale with Moore here. I am – Hercules!!
Erin Fox of TV Guide.com, who attended Monday’s screening of the "Battlestar Galactica" finale at the upfronts in New York, says this:
"The first hour-and-a-half of the finale is so intense, you'll find it difficult to breathe. So many questions will be answered — including some you probably thought wouldn't be addressed due to time constraints."
I have many questions. Like who just keeps spare Starbucks lying around? Around the 34-minute mark of the podcast for “Island in a Stream of Stars,” Ron Moore says Cylon model seven, Daniel, is not Kara Thrace’s daddy – nor does Daniel have any role in the series beyond explaining why there didn’t seem to be a seventh model. Was John Cavil, or one of his agents, driving the car that killed Laura Roslin’s father and sisters? Did Cavil need to drive Roslin to pursue a political career, to become the leader of all humanity? For the final scene of the Young Husker Adama webisode series, we inexplicably leapt ahead 40 years to see the devious undercover Cylon Doral arrange for Lee Adama to be assigned to Galactica just prior to the genocidal launch of Cylon War II. Why? Why were the faces of Cylon resurrection scientists Saul, Ellen, Sam, Tory and Galen in the algae planet’s Temple of Five? The final five Cylons were born 2,000 years ago. The temple was built by the 13th colony at least 1,000 years earlier. The Sacred Scrolls say that the Temple of Five was dedicated to the five priests who worshiped "the one whose name cannot be spoken." Who’s that Voldemorty figure? A hot young computer genius named Zoe Greystone, we will learn in the coming series “Caprica,” turned the Caprican Cylons into monotheists back when Bill Adama was still a preteen. Why does Hera draw “All Along the Watchtower”? Why has Kara been painting The Eye of Jupiter since she was a lass? Why did Galactica happen upon the algae planet just as its sun was going supernova? Why can Baltar stick his consciousness in environments the way the Cylons can? Why does Laura Roslin share dreams with Six and Eight? What do the Cylons want with Hera? Are they slapping on tailfins and swapping out her carburetor? Whether or not the series finale of “Battlestar Galactica” is good, it will be big. Ron Moore has said in interviews that he plundered the NBC Universal treasury to make the finale. SciFi says of tonight’s two-hour “Battlestar Galactica,” titled “Daybreak: Part 2”:
As conflicts reach a climax, Cylons and humans face a stark choice.
Remember that this is end, but it isn’t. Jane Espenson’s script for the Cylon-centric prequel “The Plan” was shot last summer and will likely air this autumn. The pilot for the “Caprica” prequel series hits DVD next month and the “Caprica” series proper begins shooting this summer. Want to see somebody use the iPhone’s Cylon Detector app on the adorable Katee Sackhoff during her Q&A at KUFO-FM’s “Daybreak: Part 1” screening last Friday in Oregon? Beware spoilers and click here. Note that tonight’s installment begins an hour early and runs two hours and 10 minutes. 9 p.m. Friday. SciFi.

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  • March 20, 2009, 4:45 a.m. CST

    so say we all

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • March 20, 2009, 4:48 a.m. CST

    Goddammit, that's what I get for reading.

    by iamnicksaicnsn

    Anyhoo, I have to say, I was pretty disappointed with last weeks episode. Nothing seemed to happen. <p> At all. </p> <p> So of course that have to explain everything in the first 30 minutes of this ep, because they've been lazy about doing it in the last several. </p>

  • March 20, 2009, 4:48 a.m. CST

    did I get first ?

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • March 20, 2009, 4:52 a.m. CST

    ahem...

    by smylexx

  • March 20, 2009, 4:53 a.m. CST

    Farewell BSG

    by SleazyDragon

    You will be missed

  • March 20, 2009, 4:54 a.m. CST

    ahem again...

    by smylexx

    Agreed that last week appeared to be nothing more than filler but there's one good thing to come out of this series' demise and that's Edward James Olmos' skin will no longer be visible in front of my eyeballs! Some actors just dont have faces fit for hi-def. ...yeah, i'm looking at you Fishburne!!

  • March 20, 2009, 4:54 a.m. CST

    I just read....

    by jebuslovesyou666

    a spoiler free review and the dude said everything and then some shall be answered. I'm getting fucking anxiety waiting to watch this thing......

  • March 20, 2009, 4:57 a.m. CST

    Trying to keep my expectations in check

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    They have been low after in recent weeks, but some of the comments from the reviewers who saw the preview are starting to get my expectations rising.

  • March 20, 2009, 4:59 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the memories!

    by Greenlee

    BSG will be remembered by me as one of the greatest, serious, and ambitious science fiction series ever. <p>Thank you Ron Moore & Company.</p>

  • March 20, 2009, 5:02 a.m. CST

    Ron and gang please don't stay away fro

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

  • March 20, 2009, 5:10 a.m. CST

    Well Done Ron and Co

    by DIBARAHMAN

    The best show on TV in a long time. I am going to miss all of the characters so much. Heres to the ending !!!!!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 5:11 a.m. CST

    I thoroughly enjoyed BSG!

    by Amy Chasing

    And look forward to the spin-offs.

  • March 20, 2009, 5:29 a.m. CST

    Thanks for going boldly where NO one has gone before

    by lostbat

    See "Last frakkin" special" before entering 2nights final....

  • March 20, 2009, 5:39 a.m. CST

    Summer 2011......I will throw my tv out of the balcony

    by lostbat

    1 DOWN 2 TO GO.And what the frack we are going to watch after the finals of Lost and 24?

  • March 20, 2009, 5:41 a.m. CST

    BSG was the best sci-fi series. Ever.

    by Pennsy

  • March 20, 2009, 5:44 a.m. CST

    lostbat

    by joker2thief

    My thoughts exactly. I've already cancelled cable and am going 100% antenna after tonight.

  • March 20, 2009, 5:49 a.m. CST

    joker2thief ..

    by YouKissTheWookie

    Antenna?? hope you mean digital antenna!

  • March 20, 2009, 5:58 a.m. CST

    Lee

    by NudeandAroused

    Was driving the car that killed Roslin's Father and sisters. Why else was he later shown drunk? It makes perfect sense. As to other questions, some are more relevant than others. I hope most are answered tonight.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:16 a.m. CST

    How can I get my hands...

    by Afrika

    ... on this ep as fast as possible after it finishes? I'm halfway across the world and need to be on the road somewhere at 7am GMT time. Ideas?

  • March 20, 2009, 6:17 a.m. CST

    VR

    by LOOBYLOO

    Hope it's all not some Virtual Reality/Vanilla sky explanation, where they have plugged themselves into some shared consciousness so as to forget losing members of their family.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:20 a.m. CST

    Frakkin' A

    by yodavsjasonthe13th

    Best show ever without Twilight Zone in the title.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:24 a.m. CST

    Black Hole

    by pidpoid

    The Cylon Basestar is sitting on the edge of a black hole. You just know they're going to use it to mess with time, shunt Starbuck and the five all over the place, and create the 'All this has happened and will happen again' schtick

  • March 20, 2009, 6:30 a.m. CST

    Will be missed...

    by BurnHollywood

    While I didn't support the direction the series eventually took, I'm glad it was there to take the chances it did. It worked hard to elevate the genre to a more dramatic level, and that's what it will likely be remembered for.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:33 a.m. CST

    Women, especially wives, are the "Red Shirts" of BSG

    by Kentucky Colonel

    Whilst being unemployed, and painting every room in my house, I ve been re-watching the entire series to get ready for tonight's finale. Upon doing so I came to a stark realization: <p> Just as in Star Trek where you wouldn't want to be caught dead wearing a red shirt (because you soon would become a burn out rotten piece of meat) the same can be said for the women, especially the wives, on BSG. Need proof? Bill Adama's Wife, nuked on Caprica. Ellen Tigh, executed. Callie Tyrol, airlocked. Sharon/Athena/Boomer killed more times then I can remember. Caprica Six (and all the other Sixes) likewise. Deanna Boxed. Dee commits suicide. Laura is dying/near death/ been saved by cylon blood only to relapse. Kara has even bit the dust once. Cat, although in an act of self-redemptive sacrifice, did the Kobiashi Maru thang and ate it. And depending on your point of view, Mr. Gaeta (probably a "catcher") gets the firing squad treatment. Oh, and the one guy's wife who was shanghaied by Cain's crew who shot her between the eyes...not to mention Cain and the one gal (Kendra?) from the Razor episode. Who am I forgetting? <p> In fact, the only women who haven't died (at least once) have been Selix and the Baltar Babes. <p> If you ever find yourself on Galactica, pray you have a swinging dick, and for frak's sake don't fall in love with anyone!

  • March 20, 2009, 6:40 a.m. CST

    tears*

    by Judge Briggs

    Why Caprica? Why not a show that comes AFTER the events of the series finale? Sigh...

  • March 20, 2009, 6:40 a.m. CST

    BSG at the UN

    by Kentucky Colonel

    In yerterday's STYLE section of the Washington Post there was a great article about a screening of the final episode they held the other day for some UN delegates and invited guests. During the session, on the floor of the General Assembly, Eddie Olmos intoned "So Say We All" and many in attendance replied in kind. How fucking cool is that. Whoopie Goldberg, who was a moderator, said "I can't believe you got to do that at the UN" (I paraphrase). I have to take the boy to day care now, but if you go to the Post's website I'm sure there is still a link. I'll post it when I get back...and I wouldn't be supprised if Ron Moore & Co. don't have video of it on the website sometime soon!

  • March 20, 2009, 6:41 a.m. CST

    by V'Shael

    "and for frak's sake don't fall in love with anyone!" <p> Not a problem. While some are hot, they are all such loathsome characters.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:45 a.m. CST

    Link to the UN here

    by V'Shael

    http://www.un.org/webcast/SE2009.html <p> You just know AICN's crappy engine will have inserted spaces in that URL, so take them out. <p> On the page, check out the entries for March 17th. <p> You'll need Real Player, or something that can take an RM video stream.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:48 a.m. CST

    Olmos's quote ("So say well all!") to the UN - in full

    by V'Shael

    We’re talking about a science fiction show, we’re talking about the humanity we live in today. I still find it incredible that we still use word "race" as a cultural determinant... I detest what we’ve done to ourselves. Out of a need to make ourselves different from one another, we’ve made the word "race" a way of expressing culture. There’s no such thing — and all you high school students, bless your hearts for being here. You're a hundred champions right now that are going to go out understanding this. The adults in the room will never understand, even though they'll nod their heads and say "you’re right." They'll never be able to stop using the word "race" as a cultural determinant. I just heard one of the most prolific statements done by one of the great humanitarians, he’s really trying to organize and bring us together, and he used the word "race" as if there is a Latino race, an Asian race, an indigenous race, a Caucasian race. There’s no such thing as a Latino race. There never has been. There never will be. There's only one race, and that's what the show brought out. That is the human race, period. <p> The question becomes, why did we start to use race a cultural determinant? The truth is that over six hundred years ago, the "Caucasian race" decided to use it as cultural determinant so it would be easier for them to kill another culture. That was the total understanding. To kill one culture from another culture. You couldn't kill your own race. So you had to make them the other. And to this day, I spent 37 years of my adult life trying to get this word out, and now I am well prepared as the Admiral of the Battlestar Galactica to say to all of you: there is but one race. That is it! So say we all!" <p> (And the audience responded with "So say we all" ) <p> Elmos: "So say we all!" <p> (audience bellows "So say we all!") <p> Elmos: "SO SAY WE ALL!" <p> (And there was much yelling and cheering)

  • March 20, 2009, 6:50 a.m. CST

    Elmos? Fracking brain fart.... I meant Olmos.

    by V'Shael

    I've never wanted a fucking EDIT feature implemented on this site, as much as I do now.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:54 a.m. CST

    I've heard that kind of hype before

    by MilesGloriosus

    Prepare to yawn.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:18 a.m. CST

    Baltar discovers the Singularity... and fucks it

    by br1947

    thus triggering the Big Bang and resetting the universe. This has all happened before, and will happen again.<br><br>I am kinda sad that we never got an Imperious Leader or Lucifer, but happy to see the show doing out on a high note instead of dragging out a slow death for years like so many other scifi shows.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the ride

    by Chain

    Seriously this is the best sci fi series ever on tv. It's even better watching it a second time on the dvds. You can pick up on a lot of stuff you missed first time around. Here's to a great ending. *toast*

  • March 20, 2009, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Here's hoping it'll be kickass!

    by GaiustheBrave

    So say we all, muthafucka!

  • March 20, 2009, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Just put the goddamn Colonial Anthem in the episode

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    and I'll forgive the aimlessness of the past half season. I love that piece of music and think it should totally find its way into the finale.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:34 a.m. CST

    I'm there. And here. And etc. (and Herc)

    by chrth

    Herc: Dude, it was a car accident. Why aren't you asking who put the pigeon in Lee's apartment? That's a far more compelling question.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:37 a.m. CST

    And it wasn't Lee that killed them

    by chrth

    The cops even said they have the guy who did it. People are putting way too much emphasis in a car crash.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:40 a.m. CST

    After tonight, it's down to DOCTOR WHO and LOST

    by SpyGuy

    And DOCTOR WHO probably won't air on Siffy again until 2010. Here's hoping Ron Moore and Co. can pull all these loose ends together for a decent finale.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:44 a.m. CST

    Doctor Who: Bets on How the Doctor Bites It!

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    Poison? Poison Gas? Stab Wound? Energy weapon shot? How does the Doctor bite it?

  • March 20, 2009, 7:48 a.m. CST

    I expect the ragged series to have a ragged ending

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    ...I love BSG.... and I do not mean the above comment as a slight in anyway....

  • March 20, 2009, 7:51 a.m. CST

    And yes, I will be live tb-ing the episode tonight

    by chrth

    Feel free to join in the fun

  • March 20, 2009, 8:01 a.m. CST

    DarfurOnTheRocks: Possibly death by Laser Screwdriver

    by SpyGuy

    If you believe The Sun, The Master is returning for David Tennant's final episode. Hopefully, he's over his fondness for birdcages by now.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Saturday morning I will feel like a kid again

    by turketron

    As I will be watching my torrented BSG: The Last Frakkin special, followed by the series finale. It's been a fun ride... great series. Too bad it's almost impossible to get anyone to watch it because of the supreme geek-sounding name of the show. I got a few people into it, and they in turn got some of their friends into it too (some of which just recently and watched the whole series in a couple of days!). Now there will be no reason to watch ShytFy, except to melt your brain with shitty "originals" or those idiotic ghost hunting snorefests. <p>You will be missed BSG! So frakking say we all!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:02 a.m. CST

    All's Well That Ends Well

    by NoHubris

    Here's to the series finale!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:07 a.m. CST

    What happened to Xena?

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Was she killed? She seemed to disappear.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:08 a.m. CST

    With my dying breath I can admit I'm Gay!

    by EvilWizardGlick

    I imagine those words will be uttered by the promised Gay character tonight.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:10 a.m. CST

    DarfurOnTheRocks, not gas been there.

    by EvilWizardGlick

    Doctor can't die by gas. <p> Timelords can live for a short while in the vacuum of space too. <p> I would think he dies the same way Kenny did recently.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Lucy Lawless's character..

    by jccalhoun

    After the resurrection hub was destroyed there was only one Xena model left. Once they found that Earth was a nuclear wasteland, the last Xena decided to stay on Earth where she presumably died of radiation poisoning.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:14 a.m. CST

    br1947

    by The Dark Shite

    How do know we didn't get an Imperious Leader? This is judt off the top of my head right now, but who's the old Hybrid guy who said something like the Cylons call him "God"? Could be. Even if he isn't referred to as such. <p> I've also got a pretty cool Pythia theory that I never thought of before but it just hit me as so obvious. But I don't wanna fool myself into thinking I'm right.I'd rather just watch it & accept it as entertainment, instead of wishing for my theories to be right. <p> Damn, I've gotta get off this talkback soon. I've got 2 days to wait until I can see the show. Torture.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:15 a.m. CST

    jccalhoun, Thanks

    by EvilWizardGlick

    I forgot about that. Age and memory and explorations of the minds inner realms during ones younger days do not always quite jibe.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:16 a.m. CST

    I think the Doctor Should Find the Key to Time Again...

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    He should use the Key to unlock time-locked events like the destruction of Galifrey. The Time Lord Society should give him another set of regenerations a la Master in order to keep WHO going past my our life-times....

  • March 20, 2009, 8:17 a.m. CST

    BSG = MY FAVORITE SCI-FI SERIES EVER

    by Mullah Omar

    ...even if the finale turns out to be dogshit. Fingers crossed. <br> <br> I just want to say how rare is is to catch a great show while it is actually on the air and in its prime. BSG has been truly special, a mature show tackling adult issues. Even if the past few episodes have not lived up to my expectations, on balance this is still my favorite sci-fi series of all time. Good job, and I hope to see these writers and actors continue this standard of excellence.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:20 a.m. CST

    Finally...

    by elprime

    I know it means little to anyone else (and is a tad arrogant), but I enjoy that this is the finale for one simple reason: I can now freely read the script of the finale that I've had on my desk since frakking July. <br><br>Long story short: good friend of mine worked on the set, got my picture on the memorial wall during the scene where Olmos took Hera's picture down. When I saw him last summer, he presented me with set swag. Among it, a set of Tyrol's rank pins and a script of "Daybreak". <br><br>Needless to say, the urge to open it and spoil the whole damn thing for myself and my ladyfriend has been strong, but I managed to keep it alligator-clipped shut for the last 8 months. No more though. After tonight, it just becomes another pile of paper.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:25 a.m. CST

    really?

    by Himbo

    It is ludicrous that a view would be required to listen to a podcast to rule out red-herrings tossed into the narrative. <p> Herc, quit wondering about the Roslin family car-wreck. Cavil could not have known she would enter politics, nor that she would be in power being 34th in line of succession. <p> Last weeks ep was awful by itself, but might be acceptable as act 1 of a three part finale.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Ssfe to say..

    by skydemon

    Some will be disappointed because no matter what it may be, no one will ever do anything that completely satisfies everyone. However, I am confident that RDM will bookend this series well, and that it will be well remembered for a long time. Like Babylon 5 or LOST, this is another one of those series that will make a fine addition to the DVD collection, and probably will actually get watched again and again. Enjoy it tonight my fellow fans, and many thanks to all involved in creation of BSG, it's been a great ride. :)

  • March 20, 2009, 8:34 a.m. CST

    There are those who believe...

    by MacFaux

    ...that life here began out there, far across the universe, with tribes of humans who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans. That they may have been the architects of the great pyramids, or the lost civilizations of Lemuria or Atlantis. Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man who even now, fight to survive, somewhere, beyond the heavens...<br><br> good. bad. I just hope I get to hear a big Stu Phillips flourish as the show FTB's.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:34 a.m. CST

    I still remember that scene from the first season...

    by -guyinthebackrow

    Right before the humans airlock that one Cylon (the one that likes to mess with Starbuck) he tells the President, and I quote, "Adama's a Cylon." Now, was he just fucking with the President? Or what? Was he talking about the Captain or Lee? Was he lying?

  • March 20, 2009, 8:39 a.m. CST

    Daniel Was Battlestar's Biggest Fiasco, Says Ron Moore

    by ulcer

    "Daniel Was Battlestar's Biggest Fiasco, Says Ron Moore" check io9.com front page for article. No, it's not kara's dad!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST

    "Doctor Who: Bets on How the Doctor Bites It!"

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    He'll get bitched slapped by a Dalek for sure.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Daniel wasn't Battlestar's Biggest Fiasco

    by chrth

    Black Market was.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST

    madam president to get ganged bang by the admiral and son

    by greekloveropa

    that dirty cancer whore

  • March 20, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST

    "I'll be live tb-in"

    by ulcer

    Or.. you could just watch the show and enjoy it how it's meant, instead of clowning around on the internet, looking for attention.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:54 a.m. CST

    To the Finest Ship in the Fleet

    by UCB Agent1

    As much as I've had issues with the last season, I'm going to genuinely miss the show. It was regularly the best show on TV, and the characters and the old Galactica herself will be missed. I hope she gets a viking funeral.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    To hell with the Emmy's forever if Olmos gets snubbed again.

    by bigbaldpapa

    The man is a force of nature and Bill Adama will go down forever as one of TV's best heroes.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    GENTLEMEN...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...it's been an honor. Now...<P>ROLL CALL, BITCHES!!! SOUND OFF!!!<P>SO SAY WE ALL!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 9 a.m. CST

    re: Biggest Fiasco

    by ulcer

    er... how about first reading why Ron Moore says Daniel is a fiasco, before redirecting that comment to whatever other pet peeve you have?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:02 a.m. CST

    There's no way...

    by GregoryHarbin

    ...this finale can be as good as the AMAZING, BEST EVER, should-be-released-in-theaters Season 2 finale. Do you remember that? Two hours, spanning years of time...more plot twists than I could possibly take in. CLEARLY the high-point of the series, however exciting this last season has been.<p> But nevertheless, I'm interested to see how Moore finishes up the show.<p> I do hope it's better than the—I'm sorry—horrible DS9 finale. I just finished watching that series for the first time, and was let down completely by the drab ending. Meh.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:05 a.m. CST

    ulcer: welcome to AICN

    by chrth

    Yes, I did read the article. My point still stands. As for live-tbing, I was just indicating to others that I will be here to join them in discussion during the episode. But you're not invited anymore. Sorry.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:06 a.m. CST

    MNG: CHRTH HERE

    by chrth

    For the last time ... well, until Caprica. Although I somehow suspect the Caprica movie talkback will be *very* odd since it's being released on DVD, what, 9 months before shown on TV?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:13 a.m. CST

    Adama is Daniel

    by MegaBaltar5000

    SO say we all!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Daniel Craig is Daniel

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

  • March 20, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Now we can focus on....

    by teethgnasher

    Legend of the Seeker. After tonight, Seeker will be the number one show on tv.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    chrth: re "odd"

    by GregoryHarbin

    I remember the old days, when we were discussing the first season of Battlestar long before it aired in America. I think that SkyTV deal introduced an entire generation of sci-fi fans to BitTorrent. I expect "The Plan" will be the same.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    'Daniel' was a reference to Ellsburg

    by chrth

    10,000,000 quatloos to whoever gets that reference

  • March 20, 2009, 9:17 a.m. CST

    My left nut is Daniel

    by MJohnson

    No...really. He is.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:18 a.m. CST

    GregoryHarbin: Good call

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:18 a.m. CST

    chrth

    by GregoryHarbin

    Er, I mean the "Caprica" talkback will be the same, not "The Plan."

  • March 20, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    How ironic

    by whofan71

    The last few weeks this talkback has been full of bitching and pissing and moaning, and now everybody is getting sentiental. For good reason, mind you, because tonight is the end of one of the greatest tv shows ever. But wow, what a bunch of double minded people.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:20 a.m. CST

    whofan71: Not me!

    by chrth

    I really dug the last two eps. The only down note this half-season has been the Espenson episode.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:22 a.m. CST

    chrth

    by whofan71

    Fair enough. Come to think of it, you seem to have been pretty constant, along with a few others. But the overall tone this week is just so different from the last few. Oh well. Can't wait till 08:00 tonight.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:30 a.m. CST

    I can not wait.

    by eric haislar

    Hope it is epic, and if it's not does not matter show is still good.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:32 a.m. CST

    This show's worthy of a nerdy diatribe

    by Your_Moms_a_Cylon

    Having been a fan of comics and science fiction for as long as I can remember, as I'm sure most of you have, I truly do not feel that mainstream media has ever seen a more well-rounded, easily-accessible, intelligent, relevant story anywhere near the capacity of BSG. I was not interested at first...and like so many people I have recently fought to enlighten, I mistook it for more SciFi channel/Star Trek-type cheese. Don't get me wrong, I love Star Trek and Star Wars, but I'm somehow more confident that one day I can sit and watch this show with my daughter...I'm less confident about that happening with the other aforementioned series. With the exception of Anders, every actor on this show has been at the top of their game, and destroyed any preconcieved notions about how well a SciFi series cast can be. And Anders only pales in comparison next to folk like Olmos and Callis and Sackhoff. I have laughed, wept, pondered intensely, gotten chills, and literally been afraid for humanity with this show. I feel I have gained a part-time dad with the Admiral, a cantankerous old uncle with Tigh, a brother I can look up to in Lee, and a crazy sister-in-law with Thrace(whom I want to frak badly.) I have faith in tonight's finale. I am certain this show is about to blow our minds and secure its legacy among geeks everywhere....and secure a whole new geek fanbase. Happy viewing, my friends. So say we all!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Moore does NOT say that

    by jccalhoun

    Moore does not explicitly say that Daniel is not Starbuck's dad, does he? I've not listened to the commentary yet but the transcript I saw and the stuff I saw on io9 only has Moore saying that Daniel isn't a big deal and that the character won't play a big role in the finale. That does not automatically mean that he is not Starbuck's dad. It may imply it and it may be the truth but to say that he explicitly says it is not accurate.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:37 a.m. CST

    BSG is good, but not "best best ever"

    by Real men cry sir. Real men cry.

    You people need to stop with the big old circle jerk. There's going to be good stuff, bad stuff, stuff answered, stuff left unanswered. You need to accept that. If you are actually queer enough to get on-line and post while the show is going on, you are a loser. It's bad enough that here we are at the 10 and a half hour mark posting...

  • March 20, 2009, 9:39 a.m. CST

    Prediction (?) and a Curiosity

    by chrth

    Since Baltar refused to cross the rose line/roslin (see what I did there? yep, I plagiarized EW.com's Recap) he's pretty much the only main character not going after Hera. I'm thinking that fact will end up making him the leader of the colonists when they do find a home. Of course, that prediction sort of presupposes the BSG doesn't make it back. Hmmm ... there's a thought chain here I'm not going predisposed to descend (or defend), so I'll just say Baltar's in charge and leave it at that.<p> Does anyone else wonder if the Cavil and his allied cylons are redeemable? Or is termination of Cavil et al. the only possible end for them?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:41 a.m. CST

    GOOD TO SEE YOU, CHRTH.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    It's hard to believe we're finally at the end. It's been a great ride and I'm sure there will be plenty to discuss after the finale.<P>As for CAPRICA, the DVD release is a little odd. Maybe they think it will help drum up interest or something by getting the word out early.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    real men cry

    by Your_Moms_a_Cylon

    Ok, I'm sorry man. Sorry for expressing MY FUCKING OPINION. I will stop immediately because apparently it upsets you to see people giving remembrance to a show we've spent years watching. I do agree that if you're TBing while watching, you're addicted to the internet and need therapy. Give the show the attention it deserves.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    "we're finally at the end" ... are you sure?

    by chrth

    All of this has happened before, all of this will happen again ;)

  • March 20, 2009, 9:43 a.m. CST

    FINAL SCENE

    by Real men cry sir. Real men cry.

    Adama, the elder, steps into the Raptor. Lee is standing off to the side watching. As the Raptor takes off, Adama looks out the window to see where Lee has written on the floor with pieces of scrap metal : I'm a Cylon. Fade to Black. Cue revised Galactica March. Roll Credits and then commercial for owning a piece of Galactica history.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST

    "addicted to the internet and need therapy"

    by chrth

    I spend very little time on the Internet. I just spend the time I do have on *important things*

  • March 20, 2009, 9:47 a.m. CST

    a moment of silence for the Siffy channel

    by palewook

    because everything after tonight will be considered fodder for when the channel actually jumped the shark. <p> bring on the law & order marathons in july.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:48 a.m. CST

    I didn't say your opinion was invalid.

    by Real men cry sir. Real men cry.

    It's just that, an opinion. I enjoy reading all the possible scenarios and foofarah and all that crap. Really. But, you understand that we need to take a stand and have AICN lock down the TB between 8 and 10:10 CST so that the techno nerds don't post during the show or even the commercial breaks. That's the stand we must take. Besides, who would actually be reading during the show. Give the old girl the respect she deserves. Have a 40 for your homies.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:49 a.m. CST

    I think SyFy is a ploy

    by chrth

    They know it means Syphilis in Eastern Europe (was it Poland?) so they're going to use it as an excuse to come up with an entirely different name that barely resembles Sci Fi (you know, just like the network)

  • March 20, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    chrth

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Ha! Touche.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:51 a.m. CST

    "lock down the TB"? Are you serious?

    by chrth

    Look, no one is forcing you to be in the talkback during the two hours, just don't read the post afterwards if it offends your nerd sympathies. Just because you're incapable of walking and chewing gum at the same time doesn't mean that those of us with more than half a brain should be denied the ability to.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:52 a.m. CST

    bird in the house is an omen of death

    by WickedJacob

    Its a pretty old superstition, but I'm not sure where it comes from. But that's probably why its there.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    BSG will be fondly remembered.

    by Real men cry sir. Real men cry.

    Now, let's get on with the Mork and Mindy reboot. NaNoo NaNoo.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Alright, I got almost a million dollar of errant invoices

    by chrth

    to clean up, and my inbox as well. I'll pop back in tonight for the big event. Be good to each other kiddies.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:55 a.m. CST

    But, Bird pooping on you is good luck

    by Real men cry sir. Real men cry.

    And we all know how messy pigeons are. Damn gutter birds.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Sad, But Satisfied

    by Read and Shut Up

    It's tough seeing probably the best television series ever go away - but bless them for not flogging a dead horse and milking another season. I'm certain tonight's finale will be spectacular, and I won't be surprised to shed a few tears. Thanks to everyone who made this fantastic piece of entertainment possible.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Never watched an episode of this show!

    by Dvdbones

    Waiting for the full on eventual Blu-ray box set for the series. Just couldn't get over Lt. Castillo from Miami Vice in outer space! ;-)

  • It's gonna be hard to see the Galactica finally go down, but here's hoping the old girl goes out in a blaze of glory...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Finally.

    by Real men cry sir. Real men cry.

    An end to all the EJO blasts on the Rome show. (AM1300 on your radio dial 11-2pm in Austin TX, where it's sunny and warm and the girls are wearing short pants...)

  • March 20, 2009, 10:05 a.m. CST

    SyFi = Worst Name Ever

    by GeorgieBoy

    So Say We All.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    Crap = SyFy

    by GeorgieBoy

    So lame I can't even spell it right.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:06 a.m. CST

    I really hope this finale is good.

    by maelstrom_ZERO

    <p>And by "good," I don't mean a finale stuffed to the gills with Michael Bay explosions, but a finale that's actually filled with excitement, great character interaction, and progresses the plot--which is basically what none of the episodes in S4 has managed to accomplish thus far (besides the Gaeta rebellion, which had very limited plot significance).</p> <p>I'm crossing my fingers here and hoping that RDM can make this series end on a good note. I mean, he brought us S1 and S2 of BSG, which is probably some of the best TV ever made. . .I don't see why he can't make this series finale equally amazing.</p>

  • March 20, 2009, 10:21 a.m. CST

    I'm giving up on BSG FOREVER if this episode is bad

    by CHRISTIAN_BALE_TRASHED_MY_LIGHTS

    Now, that's quite a threat.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Goodbye, BSG, So Long, SIFFY

    by LaserPants

    After BSG gracefully leaves, I think we can all safely say that SIFFY is pretty much over. Really looking forward to this episode!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Just finished watching the Last Frakking Specail

    by whofan71

    and it almost made me weapy. It's finally time for me to get off my cheap tightwad ass and buy the dvd's so I can start reliving it all from the begining to end.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Olmos at UN in video

    by eric haislar

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08VCkyG_C2s

  • March 20, 2009, 10:31 a.m. CST

    LaserPants

    by GregoryHarbin

    You won't be watching Caprica?<p> I know it's a different sort of show than Battlestar, but it still has Battlestar's writers.<p> I wouldn't write Syfy's obituary yet.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Oh Yeah, I'll Watch Caprica

    by LaserPants

    SIFFY clings on!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST

    WickedJacob

    by khaos751

    I remember that superstition, but I thought it was when a bird flew into the window of your house.<p> I'm sure there's several variations.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Let's not bullshit ourselves here (re: Caprica)

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    We're all going to at least give the pilot a chance. I just hope there's some good pussy in it.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:48 a.m. CST

    How many Elmos does it take?

    by Uncle Clay

    V'Shael, we don't need more than one Elmo, thanks. Multiple "Elmos" are just too much!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:49 a.m. CST

    OK CAN WE NOW TALK ABOUT SUPERNATURAL

    by knowledge1027

    Now with BSG going off the air can we get some love for Supernatural. Serious IGN even talks about it last nights episode scored a Ten on the reader review. Both actors and the show itself should be up for emmys .So when is this site going to have a Talkback for it I know alot of people would enjoy talking about one of the best shows on TV right now (the others shows being 24 and Criminal Minds for me). So please make with the TalkBack already

  • March 20, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    for the first "hour and a half"?

    by punto

    isn't 2 hours reall "1 hour and 20 minutes" these days? or is this actually 2 hours, spread across 3 hours, with 1 hour of commercials (20 minutes for each 40 of actual show). whatever

  • March 20, 2009, 10:57 a.m. CST

    seriously, supernatural was

    by altoandando

    amazing last night and went places no network show has EVER gone (that I've seen)... give the damn show some credit and get it a talkback!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:59 a.m. CST

    For me. at least Fridays won't be in the TV shitter...

    by Pennsy

    Since Party Down starts up tonight on Starz; that's Rob Thomas' other show besides the maybe already-doomed Cupid reboot. Has Enrico Colantoni in the premiere; Herc, hope you can post a talkback for that starting next week; putting in my request now.

  • March 20, 2009, 11 a.m. CST

    BSG will be remembered

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    As being some of the best television ever for about two and a half seasons. But then it turned into a muddled mess around the end of the third season and never really recovered. I think the writers somehow forgot that "character" works so much better on the page than on the screen. I mean, Moore keeps saying "it's about the characters." Well, that's true but when you're watching a visual medium you're seeing what the characters are DOING. How the characters interact with the plot points. When you take away the plot points, you're left with a lot of people just walking around and talking, which is absolutely boring.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:01 a.m. CST

    punto

    by GregoryHarbin

    The 'three hour' season finale is actually 130 minutes or so, with about 50 minutes of commercials. That's what we call 'feature-length.'

  • March 20, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Thank Altoandando

    by knowledge1027

  • March 20, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Thank you Altoandando for agreeing

    by knowledge1027

  • March 20, 2009, 11:16 a.m. CST

    Knobules where did that come from

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    re cat licking paws, what drugs are u on?

  • March 20, 2009, 11:18 a.m. CST

    Last scene better be

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    An extreme closeup of Boomer's tight, pulsing asshole.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:19 a.m. CST

    DVRs

    by dsback

    If you're DVRing, make sure you set it to record till 11:15. The episode supposedly runs 2 hours and 11 minutes.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Klytus I like it

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    Grace Park is yummy, whoever is fucking her is a lucky guy

  • March 20, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Knobules

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Nice one

  • March 20, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    DOCTOR'S DEMISE

    by I am the most horrible

    Slipping and hitting his head. That's how I was sure this incarnation would die when he referenced it in the x-mas special. It has lost its novelty now that Natasha Richardson has died. <p> I think it will be either a gigantic big deal death or something seemingly senseless like a bump on the head.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Everyone's a cylon.

    by The Eskimo

  • March 20, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Boomers_Pulsing_Asshole

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    Sounds like an AICN username if ever there was one.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Eskimo alternatively

    by Miyamoto_Musashi

    everyone is a human, there is no distinquishment of cylon, badically the "humans" will have to give up this difference to ensure peace

  • March 20, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Dollhouse vs BSG

    by blrp

    Why in the hell did the noids at Fox not hold out the new Dollhouse? Ain't nobody going to be watching it opposite the finale tonite. Fox programmers are idiots.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Herc: Spare Starbucks lying around?

    by snowpuff

    So right. And where did the extra Ellen body come from? Cavil kept one around in his closet?

  • March 20, 2009, 11:49 a.m. CST

    twin peaks and kolchak, meet your new friend.

    by RaveX

    battlestar galactica, welcome to my all-time hall of fame.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    BSG is the reason why SciFi became SyFy

    by dioxholster

    if BSG was a sci fi in the first place the channel wouldve never whored itself to mainstream dummies. but BSG proved to them that its possible to have a pretend scifi channel---for the pretend nerds that somehow get laid more than they should. thats why stargate is respected by the scientific community and they enjoy it immensely. BSG is like a collection of diarrhea.at least that shit is over and done with.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    pure spite

    by gotilk

    ..is the reason I will now make every effort to live talkback during the east coast airing.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:53 a.m. CST

    snowpuff

    by Dotren

    I think I read or heard in a podcast that, you're to assume Cavil has multiple copies of each of the final five stored away.<p>Remember, his intention was that they all get resurrected at some point so that he can show them the error of their ways.<p>Its unfortunate that they didn't make this point more clear in the show itself. My guess is we're also to assume that Cavil somehow has an entire portion of a baseship or resurrection area off-limits to the other Cylons to store these bodies.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Dotren

    by GregoryHarbin

    I think that's what the upcoming "The Plan" tv-movie is for.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:59 a.m. CST

    FIRST ONE IN THE BLACK HOLE WINS.

    by alice 13

    amp up the bagpipes section.

  • March 20, 2009, noon CST

    What about the last thirty minutes?

    by mrfan

    Wonder what the hell is going on there. Also, wondering what the final shot will be? Will it be as rumored? Even though I have less than 8 hrs. the suspense is killing me. Here's to the finale.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    *SPOILERS* The ending will be an explosion and...

    by dioxholster

    ...ejaculation at the same time. to symbolize the end of a shitty show.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Thanks Dotren

    by snowpuff

  • March 20, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Any word on a complete series DVD set?

    by Tin Snoman

    Or better yet, a Blu-ray set?

  • March 20, 2009, 12:04 p.m. CST

    The end will be Starbuck getting DP'd

    by dioxholster

    by two cylons. thats the end. two dicks crossing swords, smashing into starbuck's rear. what a fucked up show this is.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:05 p.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by NoQuarter

    Kindly troll a different tb, please. kthxbye!

  • March 20, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Keep trying Dioxholster

    by TotoroSan

    Someday you might accidentally say something funny.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:12 p.m. CST

    NoQuarter

    by dioxholster

    Im informing people on how bad this show is. and that there are better shows like stargate, that are actually scifi and not some tearfest balltwister.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    Edward James Olmos at the UN

    by v1cious

    here's the actual clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08VCkyG_C2s&feature=related

  • March 20, 2009, 12:13 p.m. CST

    NoQuarter

    by RaveX

    don't feed him. <p> unless, of course, you're feeding him with his mother's clit. which, I must say, is delicious...

  • March 20, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Merrick

    by dioxholster

    why not do a stargate talkback instead. BSG is like what they force you to watch in prison.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST

    What happened to the actor who...

    by mrfan

    plays Anders? I heard that he was in an accident and BSG had to change the storyline. Any truth to this and if so what happened. Thanks.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:23 p.m. CST

    The Whitest Show On Television? Not.

    by LaserPants

    Oh come the fuck on. What about Dualla? What about Adama? What about Number 8/Boomer? What about Number 4? What about Tory Foster? Methinks your grasping at straws. Although, its true, that the show is predominantly white, SO IS NEARLY EVERY FUCKING AMERICAN TV SHOW. Seriously.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Why'd Did You Pull Down The Comment, Merrick?

    by LaserPants

    Did you suddenly realize how UNBELIEVABLY STUPID it was?

  • March 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    I'm just hoping that at 11:00 tonight...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    the screen doesn't say, "The conclusion, of the end, of Battlestar Galactica will return next October."

  • March 20, 2009, 12:25 p.m. CST

    Early word...

    by Tai_Pan

    is that the last 2 hours are very very good. <p> Not that the AICNTB hate machine won't bash it...

  • March 20, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Black people in the fleet?

    by raw_bean

    Probably the most prominent would have been Elosha, the priest who was the President's friend and advisor in the first two seasons. Other than that on the show there's Simon, one of the Cylon models, and Skulls who generally flew Raptors with Racetrack as ECO, and special mention to Bulldog, the guest star who had a whole episode centred on him to the general disinterest of all. Given all the prominent Hispanic and Asian characters and other ethnicities represented, the lack of prominent black characters is surely just a coincidence and a sign of the lack of tokenism in the show's casting. But why let the facts get in the way of a good snide remark, eh Merrick?

  • March 20, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Well said LaserPants

    by commiepinko

  • March 20, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Wait what did Merrick say?

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 12:28 p.m. CST

    Perhaps Cavil is God...

    by Tai_Pan

    haven't heard that theory. Never thought of it till now. <p> That would help to make sense.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    BSG dissapeared up its own asshole

    by Filmrage

    by season two BSG had already gotten way way too pretentious. Sure, at the start we all loved that a sci fi show was gritty and also getting some serious writing, casting and acting. It was the new Babylon 5 only done with HBO production values. Great, fantastic, loved it. But then the producers forgot that the drama enhanced the action and sci fi'iness of it. Without the action and Sci fi it was just another soap opera. Gradually all we got were very brief scenes of Raptors flying, a glimpse of a metal Cylon and a quick shot of Galatical (actual). Apart from that we had repeated shots of books, photos, picture frames etc with the corners sawn off to prove to us that it was 'in da fyoocha'. The last bunch of seasons was enterminable bouts of navel gazing, whining from the 'get the frak over yourself' likes of Starbuck. BSG started off great like Heroes but then went down the flusher real quick. I'm soooooo glad it's over. I don't think i could stand another season of frikkin whining from just about every single character. What a piece of garbage it became. I wanted a gritty as fuck all out space war with the Cylons with 'ala Aliens' great writing, acting and casting to make it even greater but all we got was bull . . . shit

  • March 20, 2009, 12:29 p.m. CST

    He said BSG was the whitest show on tv

    by commiepinko

  • March 20, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    RaveX

    by dioxholster

    your mom loved to play with your dick when you were just kid because she got no action from your dad. she almost put her tongue on it but came back to her senses...and ever since then she unleashes her anger at you to suppress her self-pity and guilt.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:30 p.m. CST

    mrfan

    by Dotren

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Trucco<p>According to that, he was in a car accident in December 2007 that resulted in them having to fuse some of his spine. No idea how this effected his character's storyline though, if at all.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Herc, to answer your question:

    by Tai_Pan

    "Why were the faces of Cylon resurrection scientists Saul, Ellen, Sam, Tory and Galen in the algae planet’s Temple of Five? The final five Cylons were born 2,000 years ago. The temple was built by the 13th colony at least 1,000 years earlier."----- In "No Exit" Cavil asks this question to Ellen, and she indicates that the image of the FF was not there when they stopped on the way to reach Earth. <p> This is one of many changes and prophecies generally attributed to God.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:33 p.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by Dotren

    Not that I really want to get flamed, but why exactly are you trolling this board when you have an obviously rather large dislike/hate for this show?<p>You can't change other people's opinions of this show by posting here and, even if you could, its too late since it's ending tonight.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:35 p.m. CST

    the BSGarbage Finale

    by dioxholster

    im happy its over too. now we can all sleep soundly tonight knowin fully that such a crappy show died like a rotten corpse waiting for the worms to consume it. but im sure some silly fan will still want to stick his stinky dick in that rotten corpse just for the memories.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Tai_Pan

    by Dotren

    "This is one of the many changes and prophecies generally attributed to God."<p>So far... it seemed to me that she may have been covering something up with the way she said that.<p>Perhaps the Final Five put into place some contingency plans in case the Colonial Cylons turned on them?

  • March 20, 2009, 12:39 p.m. CST

    BSG is more than what we, and SCI FI Channel, deserve

    by DarfurOnTheRocks

    Seriously

  • March 20, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    My comment

    by Merrick

    I pulled my initial comment because I was attempting to reword it & expand upon it. Of course, many nationalities *are* represented on the show (and, indeed, there are several characters who are black on the show). All I was attempting to say...and perhaps I did it poorly...is that many of the black characters on this BSG iteration seemed occasional/subordinate (except for Dualla). In the original series, for example, both Tigh and Boomer were black - major players who were constantly there. Do any of the black characters in this iteration hold the same stature? Asking genuinely...NOT in an effort to induce flaming and attacks. I'm *genuinely* not trying to start some sort of bitter debate, or level any kind of accusation, and I'm not trolling around looking to start a fight on the day this series wraps up. I'm just mentioning something I've noticed from time to time on the show, as have people around me, as have people I know who work on the series. I was really mentioning it more for discussion than degradation or insult. I'll really miss BSG - I'll miss its boldness (most shows on TV these days are far too chicken as far as I'm concerned). It was an institution - and, no matter how good CAPRICA may be (and I hear the pilot movie is quite well done, by the way) - BSG will still be missed.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    The Boston Herald Review (some spoilers)

    by Oldnewbie

    Some spoilage... http://news.bostonherald.com/entertainment/television/reviews/view/2009_03_20_%E2%80%98Galactica__journey_ends_with_uneven_finale/srvc=home&position=3

  • March 20, 2009, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Dotren

    by GregoryHarbin

    Trucco said specifically that he worked like crazy to be back in working condition before filming started. The fact that his character's bee in a coma was just an ironic coincidence.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Dotren-- BSG is poor

    by dioxholster

    believe me BSG after awhile will be forgotten and only remembered as a waste of time spent. it has a short-life expectancy. heck the fans almost forgot it existed when they split the season. however other shows like stargate, have high life expectancy and will live in your minds for a long time.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:42 p.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by Montag666

    If BSG makes you cry, that makes you a pussy.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Merrick???

    by dioxholster

    how can you say that BSG is good? its a racist show.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Future or Past?

    by Montag666

    I think it would be cool if all this is happening in the future and us current earthlings are the ones that become the in-head people who are pulling the strings.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:45 p.m. CST

    I'll miss BSG...a lot.

    by p5mmr9

    Through ups and downs - highs and lows - this show has always pushed the envelope. I'll miss the characters - but mostly I'll miss it's big ass heart.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Dotren

    by mrfan

  • March 20, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Montag666---u make me sick

    by dioxholster

    BSG is for cunts like yourself. sad thing is you dont know it yet. let me guess, u like to hang out in night clubs just to rub ur penis onto girls and then go home in time to jerk off while watching BSG.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Also...

    by p5mmr9

    The insurgency on New Caprica was probably the most viscerally real and relevant TV in this genre since the original Star Trek - and yet far more powerful.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Merrick is right though

    by dioxholster

    BSG is extremely racist, mainly because it is a nazi show. but stargate always had people from all ethnic backgrounds.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Merrick when you put it that way...

    by commiepinko

    ...you're right. But when it comes to science fiction shows the only one I can think of that had an African-American in a real position of power was DS9. So it's not just BSG.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:50 p.m. CST

    jccalhoun / "Adama's a Cylon" /Anders

    by Tai_Pan

    DANIEL IS NOT KARA'S FATHER!!! Moore has said it explicitly. The show has made this clear with no less than three blood tests. <p> To whomever was asking why Leoben said "Adama is a Cylon"... Leoben is a liar. He's lied multiple times throughout the series to get what he wants. Is there any surprise he would want to sew a rift between the two most important humans in the fleet? <p> To whomever was asking about Michael Trucco/ Sam Anders accident. Trucco wrecked his Ferarri, causing a scar on his neck. The writers used this as inspiration to change Anders into the prophecying hybrid we see today. Rumor says this ended a reunion of Lee and Kara (pissing me off endlessly).<p> Oh yeah: diox, you're still a shitheaded troll.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Can't frakking wait!

    by DC Films

  • March 20, 2009, 12:53 p.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by Montag666

    Actually, first I watch BSG, then I go out to nightclubs to practice "frotage" as the experts like to call it. Then I come home, watch BSG again, and THEN I jerk off. Meanwhile, you just stay home and jerk off during stargate. Quien es mas macho?

  • March 20, 2009, 12:54 p.m. CST

    dioxholster = TROLL

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    All he does is spam BSG Talkbacks. I say, SUMMON THE BAN HAMMER!<P>(For old times' sake...)

  • March 20, 2009, 12:55 p.m. CST

    An unanswered question:

    by Montag666

    Who left Adama that note that said "There are 12 Cylon Models" at the end of the miniseries? Interesting.

  • March 20, 2009, 12:59 p.m. CST

    Montag666-- dont talk mumbojumbo to me

    by dioxholster

    u are a menace. i hope ur filth remains within the BSG fan community.

  • March 20, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    So it doesn't cover the black quota

    by luis1210

    C'mon really? Just because there are no african american characters in power then there's no race balance or the show is racist? How many people, regardless of race, are really in positions of power, i know i'm not, i know i'm a subordanite at job, that doesn't offend me nor does it make me feel bad. I think sometimes people go way overboard with the political correctness of it all.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    I'm All For A Good Trolling

    by LaserPants

    just witness any of the T2 related talkbacks I've been involved in. BUT, your trolling, dioxholster, doesn't really make any sense. make fun of the show all you want, take pot shots at the melodrama and exaggerated gravitas, but, don't be retarded. There is nothing even remotely racist about BSG. Thanks.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:03 p.m. CST

    The doctor

    by yodavsjasonthe13th

    Will turn out to be God. What if Cottle was one us?

  • March 20, 2009, 1:05 p.m. CST

    BSG fans are the TROLLS!

    by dioxholster

    Aint it cool news, it says COOL NEWS not boring smelly ass BSG news. u fuckers still carry ur mom's ass-smell from when u got out of her rotten cage. i just want to enlighten you guys but u keep outting me as a troll. why? is it because im nice enough to tell you that what you like to watch sucks beyond horrible annihilation status.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:06 p.m. CST

    dioxholster...really?

    by Zip Chickenhead

    You're comparing Stargate to Galactica and you like Stargate better.... You're 9 years old aren't you? I bet you like watching wrestling too right?

  • March 20, 2009, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Galactica is the First Cylon

    by optimous_douche

    With Anders hooked into it.<p> At least that's one douche's thoughts.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Ricardo Montalban

    by Bjornegar

    Fue mas macho. What's the extra ten minutes for? Just to frak with one's Tivo, I imagine. I hope all is explained in the last ten minutes. That would teach me!

  • March 20, 2009, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Wheres the Stargate love?

    by dioxholster

    do i have to spell it out to you: stargate is the G-R-E-A-T-E-S-T thing to ever be on TV!!! BSG is poor special olympics induced sport influenced by lack of brain activity in the anus regions of underwater stinkage.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    The Boston Herald review is interesting...

    by nopix

    I'm expecting to like it more than he did...but I just knew the Baltar religious cult was going to run into trouble. I still think they made a mistake with the character of Baltar who was great up until the end of season 3.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:17 p.m. CST

    NOTE: The Boston Herald review does contain spoilers

    by nopix

  • March 20, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Glowing LA Times review

    by NoQuarter

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-battlestar20-2009mar20,0,4379589.story Seems like they really are going to explain at least much of what I'm hoping to find out about.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    PS, They can't lockdown the Talkback.

    by Bjornegar

    Without, many won't be able to form an opinion or figure it out. "Gee, I kind of thought DARK KNIGHT made no sense, but I better check the internet to see if someone agrees with me before I say it in public."

  • March 20, 2009, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Do People Actually Like STARGATE?

    by LaserPants

    Seriously? You're joking, right? Its one of the worst tv shows of any genre I've ever seen. To each his own, I guess.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Oh now I get it..

    by Zip Chickenhead

    The whole Stargate is better is just a joke to rile us up! Good one...ok next?

  • March 20, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    I Liked The Videogame Defender II: STARGATE

    by LaserPants

    It was the same as Defender, but had a Stargate in it.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Dioxholster is clearly

    by donkey_lasher

    a windup. There is no other logical reason for his constant posts about how "crappy" Galactica is. No-one should take this dweeb seriously from now on. Let's all laugh at the Stargate fan. Ho Ho Ho.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Best series finales?

    by commiepinko

    I think 1. Next Generation 2. Angel 3. ?

  • March 20, 2009, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Stargate fans are cute

    by MattmanReturns

  • March 20, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Best Series Finale? THE PRISONER

    by LaserPants

    Hands down.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:29 p.m. CST

    "Who Is Number 1?"

    by LaserPants

    "You... are number 6."

  • March 20, 2009, 1:30 p.m. CST

    I guess I should watch that at some point.

    by commiepinko

    Probably before the new version comes out.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Stargate

    by donkey_lasher

    The big bald gurning black guy used to crease me up every time I looked at him.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Good call Laserpants

    by donkey_lasher

    And a damn fine show as well.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:33 p.m. CST

    Yes! Watch It Before They Remake It And Ruin It

    by LaserPants

    Its essential viewing.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:34 p.m. CST

    Merrick

    by Tai_Pan

    You're paranoid. <p> Black characters on this show I can think of off the top of my head (I'm not talking about walk ons or people who asked "Would you like some more coffee", but people who actually affected the plot in some way): <p> Bulldog: Titular star of the episode Hero." Chosen to spy on the Cylons pre-attack because he was the best pilot in the fleet. <p> Dualla: Recurring character throughout the entire series till her suicide in the season opener S4.5. Married Lee Adama, convinced Adama to put the fleet back together after Roslin's departure/mutiny. Had a fling with Billy till she dumped him for Lee. Adama's personal confidant on many occassions.<p> Elosha: Spiritual advisor to Roslin. Identified Roslin as the Chosen Leader. Told Galactica and the fleet of the 13th tribe. Died on Kobol, fulfilling the prophecy of "a price in blood." Appeared as a vision to Roslin in 4.0. The Gemenese representative: Religious politician who supported Roslin when she became a prophet of sorts. Turned on her when Roslin outlawed abortion. Came back frequently to argue points of religion and morality (especially when it was suggested that Gemenese citizens were being treated unfairly/left to die). Killed by Zarek in "Blood on the Scales."<p> Seelix' raptor partner: recurring raptor navigator who apparently wacks off loudly in his bunk in between recon missions. <p> The head of the Black Market: killed Battlestar Pegasus Commander Fisk. SHot in the head by Lee Adama. <p> Simon: One of the Cylon skinjobs. Removed Kara Thrace's ovary on New Caprica. The doctor among the Cylons. Cool and analytical. <p> .... Merrick, you should take another look at what Olmos said at the U.N. He'd argue your entire point is moot. But hey, maybe they should have instituted a quoata, you think? After all, this show has done NOTHING to suggest that race is irrelevant or that people should ignore racial boundaries and work together to better humanity, right? THat's not even impportant, is it? It's about making sure the numbers are equitable among the races, right? <p> I know you said you weren't looking to get flamed, but you ARE complaining about a lack of representation. What I am saying (and what I feel Olmos was getting at yesterday @ the UN) is that the number of black characters on this show IS ONLY IMPORTANT in regards to the broader issue of ensuring fairness among all people regardless of skin color as well as treating and considering the races as equals or considering the idea of "race" as an unnecessary and artificial descriptor and skincolor as an aesthetic having nothing to do with content of character. <p> Keeping that in mind, has BSG promoted a message that upholds and does service to that criteria?<p> I think the answer is a resounding "YES" in a way that only a few mainstream shows in U.S. television history can claim. <p> Your complaint is, IMO, insignificant in that light. That there are comparatively few blackskinned actors on this show is incidental.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:35 p.m. CST

    I 3rd the Prisoner

    by Montag666

    Right on! Definitely one of the best finales of all time!

  • March 20, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    LMAO review od the finale from Entertainment Weekly:

    by Pennsy

    "Stuff happened, then credits rolled."

  • March 20, 2009, 1:40 p.m. CST

    by Pennsy

  • March 20, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Message from Ron Moore

    by eric haislar

    I don't want this day to happen. I want it to be rescheduled, rethought, removed and recalled. Tomorrow the story will be over, my tale having been told, and never again will there be the sweet anticipation of waiting for the next episode to be shown to fans and friends. The thought of it makes my heart ache even as swells with pride. All I know is that today there is a show called Battlestar Galactica and tomorrow there was. There will be joy in that too, I'm sure, touching the thread of memory and feeling it resonate all the way back to soundstages, locations, cutting rooms, writers' rooms, and sound bays where I lived for all these years and being comforted by the knowledge that a part of me will never truly leave those places. There will be reunions and retrospectives, special editions and extended cuts, interviews and seminars. Solace can be found. We'd called the last season Senior Year and here, today, as I prepare to present the final episode to an audience of friends, colleagues, and family, I find myself feeling the same way I did on Graduation day at Chowchilla Union High, all those years ago. The mosaic of faces I'd grown accustomed to seeing day after day would regroup for one last event, one last celebration of our lives together and what we'd done, and then it would be gone but for the transcendent threads of memory waiting to resonant down through the years. I didn't want that day to happen either and fervently wished for it to be rescheduled, rethought, removed and recalled. Somehow I get the feeling that today's wish will not be granted either. So this day, like that one, will wax and wane and all I can do is ride the wave and let it carry me where it will. Thank you, all of you for coming here through the years. The shippers and the haters, and everyone in between; you've watched and you've posted and you've been a touchstone for my experience with the audience ever since that night back in 2003 when we first declared that the Cylons were created by Man and things were going to be different. It's been a genuine pleasure to surf your thoughts, rants, questions, snarks, complaints, praise, and humor as you watched our story play out and rest assured I will be here again tomorrow poring through the posts, laughing, cursing, sometimes just shrugging at what you take away from this crazy show. It's been an honor to be your storyteller. Ronald D. Moore About to be former Executive Producer of Battlestar Galactica

  • March 20, 2009, 1:43 p.m. CST

    New York Post 4 star review!

    by eric haislar

    IT'S EVERYTHING A FRAKING FINALE SHOULD BE! http://www.nypost.com/seven/03202009/tv/star_dust_160365.htm

  • March 20, 2009, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Why Lee was drunk.

    by Tai_Pan

    I think he fucked Starbuck, his brother's girl, and was upset about it. <p> Maybe he didn't, but was drunk and angry about not being able to have her. <p> Or, it may be that he was drunk after hearing of Zak's death. <p> I kinda doubt that he was the one who killed Roslin's family.

  • March 20, 2009, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Off out

    by donkey_lasher

    for a few jars, and when I come back I might even stay up to watch this. 6 hours to go?

  • March 20, 2009, 1:59 p.m. CST

    anyone catch the probable spoiler from EJO's UN speech

    by MurderMostFowl

    I won't say it here...<BR><BR> Watch it on youtube if you want to be spoiled... it's the emphasis he puts on a particular statement he says a couple of times and makes some rumors from quite awhile back in the BSG universe sound definitive.

  • March 20, 2009, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Baltar as a prophet

    by Tai_Pan

    I think the choice to make him a prophet was a good one, but the harem didn't really work that well. <p> It was only natural (the harem, that it). It's a way to play up Baltar's humorous side as well as provide a sense of authority to Baltar by giving him lackeys who can visibly react to him.... but it just didn't quite work. I think that it's partially the actors fault for playing it a bit too brainless as acolytes; and a bit on the part of the writers for writing it that way and not showing their doubts in the faith and personal backstories.

  • March 20, 2009, 2:04 p.m. CST

    MMF

    by Tai_Pan

    Watched it, but didn't catch what you refer to. Got a time reference?

  • March 20, 2009, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Tai_pan... it might be a stretch

    by MurderMostFowl

    POSSIBLE SPOILERS POSSIBLE SPOILERS POSSIBLE SPOILERS POSSIBLE SPOILERS <BR> <BR> What EJO says @ 1:21 - 1:29 on this clip: <BR><BR> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSFDrOxWCXY <BR><BR> He says this several times, through out his whole speech, and it just stuck with me. Like I said in a previous post on last weeks BSG TB ( which lasted until last night, is that a record? ) I might bee making something out of nothing, but this possible spoiler has been talked about to death in the past, so no major surprise if, in fact, it's true.

  • March 20, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Tai_pan Lee drunk...

    by MurderMostFowl

    It's got to be the Zak thing. No way Lee killed Rosiln's family. I figured it's either someone random that is left unexplained or it is a cylon model.

  • March 20, 2009, 2:23 p.m. CST

    I was really impressed

    by Mockingbuddha

    by the use of a Naked Singularity as a defense mechanism for the Cylons colony. I just read about those in Scientific American a few weeks ago. They did a good job using the theoretical qualities of a NS to create a near foolproof defense system. Maybe ya'll already know this but a Naked Singularity is like a black hole, but it doesn't have an event horizon from which no light can escape. A Naked singularity is a star that collapses in on itself to form a tiny singularity with near infinite mass, just like a black hole, however, the makeup of the NS is such that some energy escapes and from certain vantages the singularity is theoretically observable. So, in one particular model, light coming in from most directions will be sucked into the intense gravity of the NS, but some will escape in a certain direction. If the Cylon colony is situated in the "sweet spot" where energy can escape the NS, but all the other directions are subject to the gravity of the singularity, it would make a great defense. A regular old black hole with an event horizon would not work because there would be no sweet spot to put the base in. This post probably would have been better on last weeks talkback, I haven't seen tonight's final episode yet. I will surely miss this show.

  • March 20, 2009, 2:27 p.m. CST

    BSG cast addresses the UN

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    EJO makes a *So Say We All* speech.<p> Someone got lost in a role

  • March 20, 2009, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Hey Everybody

    by secretcylon

    Enjoy the finale!! Will miss this talkback, the theories, etc.

  • March 20, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Daybreak Flashbacks

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    I think we're all trying to be too literal with the flashbacks, at least in terms of figuring out their plot significance. The problem with the 4th season is that it's been so plotless that the fans are trying to stitch things like Daniel, Starbuck, the Daybreak flashbacks, etc into parts of the narrative in order to fill the remaining plot holes. I think we should look to Ron Moore and what he's been saying lately about how the final is "about the characters, stupid." I think the flashbacks are just to give us a some kind of "closing of the circle" between where the characters were before the miniseries and where they are at the end of the show. I don't think there's going to be some "plotty" reveal here at the end ("Cavil killed Laura's family!" "Lee is a cylon who fucked Starbuck with Zak!") or anything like that. I thik we're just supposed to drink them in as more "fleshing out" of the characters. That said, I think so far they're totally fucking needless. The fact that we're trying so hard to fit them into some kind of plot is proof positive to me that there hasn't been ENOUGH plot for quite a while.

  • March 20, 2009, 2:48 p.m. CST

    Daniel was not a Final Five

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    he was one of the 1st generation human form Caprican Cylons made by the Earf Cylons.<p> In other words he was Able to Calvil's Cain.<p> There is still a missing Earf Cylon

  • March 20, 2009, 2:49 p.m. CST

    boo hoo

    by batmarv

    Im very sad indeed:(..but cant wait for the finale. I predict that Adama(snr) will buy the farm, as will either Helo or Tyrol..or both! Anyway i dont wany any oif them to go..thats what makes this sucjh an amazing show, theres not one character i want to see die..like in Lost, which i also love, you know that if say Julliet or Miles bought it you wouldnt really mind and actually anticipate a few deaths for the drama..not on BSG.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:02 p.m. CST

    5 hours and counting

    by millermeusa

    This would be a really bad time for someone to explode an electromagnetic pulse over the skies of the eastern United States

  • March 20, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    This trainwreck lasted only 5 years! lol

    by dioxholster

    while stargate is just getting warmed up. and pls dont insult my intelligence, im not here for the green, im here to save you from urselves. see, im a nice guy, and us nice guys like to see things clean. if i find someone messing around i straighten him out. in this case, its BSG fans who are delusional to the extreme. BSG blinded your tastes. it made fools out of your dicks, and has your dick in a headlock. stop whoring urselves to crappy storytelling. watch something pure, like stargate, which btw is having another spin-off coming out this fall called Stargate Universe--it is deemed to be the most anticipated event this year as it defies conventional storytelling in exchange for something bold and new that will challenge our minds as well as entertain it. once you go stargate, you cant go back.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:07 p.m. CST

    New Stargate in the works...

    by MJohnson

    It's called Stargate: BSG Haters...there is a Stargate in this big dark basement, and every week BSG Haters from all over the universe use it to gather together and sodomize each other repeatedly while desperately chanting "We Know Good Sci-Fi" over and over in a pathetic attempt to convince themselves.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:08 p.m. CST

    AzulTool

    by Cory849

    Clearly spoken as someone ignorant of the travesty of the Mork and Mindy finale! Trapped in space and time due to space boots, my ass. Sheesh. Kids today...

  • March 20, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    millermeusa--- I'll EMP ur Asses

    by dioxholster

    I wouldve done the EMP thing if it werent for the stargate universe trailer.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Watched the mini last night

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Still one of the best damn mini series.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    That was fun

    by skydemon

    Thanks for posting the link to the Original Galactica Herc. Classic BSG was really epic and huge back in the day, so much so Lucas decided to drag em to court for copyright infringement. Brings back fond memories, even just the 10 minutes or so I had time to watch. I'll be returning to work shortly to finish up the day with a really geeky smile on my face.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:09 p.m. CST

    probably some of the best TV ever to be created

    by smudgewhat

    certain episodes and stretches of the show were utterly brilliant IMO. the irony is that the show never got bogged down in technobabble, but it did get bogged down in mythology-babble. traded one for the other. maybe there is no possible good way to explain and wrap up a TV show this emotionally complex anyway b/c as soon as all options are reduced to just one then your imagination is forced to disengage. in other words, the journey is always better than the destination. thanks to Ron Moore and an incredible cast and crew for some of the most gripping TV i've ever seen. at times i was a full on junkie.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Merrick's Post

    by NoHubris

    I took him to say there were no major "Black" cast members (Dee had a supporting role)and his opinion was that there should have been. What's wrong with that?<p>TNG had Leforge and Worf (technically a Black Klingon); DS9 had Sisko and eventually Worf; Voyager had Tuvok; Babylon 5 had the Doctor to name a few.<p>IMHO he was talking about diversity among major cast members like the aforementioned. Any flaming on this one is certainly misplaced.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    It will live on!!!!

    by millermeusa

    BSG will live on as a WB sitcom!!!!! thrace and Parker will be roommates and Gaius will be the investment banker who lives down the hall

  • March 20, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST

    "Doctor Who: Bets on How the Doctor Bites It!"

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    The Master will kill him............with a spoon.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:16 p.m. CST

    The ending...................

    by millermeusa

    Adama will eat Galactica! "frack!! where's the tartar sauce?"

  • March 20, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST

    Mockingbuddha, nice post RE: Naked Singularity

    by NoHubris

    For what it's worth, I had some posts in last week;s TB that might be of some assistance.<p>BTW I read Scientific American too. Back in the day, it was reported that Ron Moore read it while working on Trek.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    NoHubris: In my mind, the problem with Merrick's post is

    by chrth

    the underlying assumption is that you only get diversity with African-American actors. Hispanics outnumber African-Americans in the United States, but the latter are well-represented on television while the former are criminally neglected.<p> Wait, that was a serious point. Now for some levity: Tyler Perry was auditioning for a new film that same weekend, so there weren't enough inexpensive african-american actors available to audition for BSG.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Set your TIVO to go over!

    by Doggus47

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-giltz/embattlestar-galacticaem_b_176983.html It says Sci-Fi said the episode is 2 hours & 11 meinutes

  • March 20, 2009, 3:21 p.m. CST

    Merrick wanted interracial sex

    by dioxholster

    he wasnt talking about just showing black characters but he wanted interracial sex preferably a black guy banging a white blonde or two black guys spitroasting this crazy spoiled blonde chick (starbuck maybe?). anyway in respnse, Merrick thats really disgusting BSG is not that kind of show, BSG is only about the 2 girls 1 cup stuff, not that interracial stuff. silly Merrick.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Wait ... a Black Hole ... Holy Frak I figured it out!

    by chrth

    The Cylon God is MAXIMILIAN!

  • March 20, 2009, 3:37 p.m. CST

    EvilWizardGlick - Gaeta was the gay character.

    by FookU

  • March 20, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST

    HAVE NOT WATCHED ONE EPISODE...

    by Banzai Rootskibango

    Which is why I hope they release a series DVD set. <P> I've heard such great things from you all...I look forward to purchasing such a set if it is ever released.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:40 p.m. CST

    "Gaeta was the gay character."

    by chrth

    Yep, and that was the real reason they airlocked him. Frakkin' homophobes.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:41 p.m. CST

    BSG = Menstruation

    by dioxholster

    BSG is a joke.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:47 p.m. CST

    dickholder

    by shellfishh

    Do you really need attention THAT badly?

  • March 20, 2009, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Banzai Rootskibango

    by dioxholster

    BSG is no good. stargate is ur answer. stay safe my friend.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Misogyny alive and well at AICN

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    Comparing BSG with menstruation (implying, of course, that menstruation is somehow negative or bad) is really amazing. It's amazing to see someone so openly attack women in that way. You'll make a really great father. I can tell.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Matt Roush ov TVGuide loved the finale.

    by nopix

    He's over on tvguidemagazine.com, but he says he loved the finale. The only problem may be "finale fatigue" because the last 30 mintues go on for a bit.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    shellfishh

    by dioxholster

    Why the extra H? WHY!

  • March 20, 2009, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Why the extra H?

    by shellfishh

    Do you know how to keep a retarded eggplant in suspense?<p> I'll tell you next week.

  • March 20, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    #1 Talkback?

    by chrth

    Oh yeah

  • March 20, 2009, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Klytus_I.m_Bored------- BSG problems?

    by dioxholster

    who sent you here? WHO SENT YOU!!! you clearly have been castrated by the Menstruating Gods, but just for the record i also compared BSG's ending to ejaculation as it is relaxing to see it go away. and also BSG is sexist. stargate is the exact opposite though as it didnt objectify women in any way.

  • March 20, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    Vacation day and grilling like a fucking champ.

    by samuraiwahoo

    Oh man, I can not wait. Bacon cheeseburgers and some fine Kentucky bath tub hootch (Uncle Biscuit's recipe). I am all geared up for the greatest moment in entertainment history and man oh man, I better not pass out. Take care and see you after the episode. SO SAY WE ALL!!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 4 p.m. CST

    I've said it before and I'll say it again

    by chrth

    Trolls want attention. Responding to trolls give them attention.<p> Don't Feed the Trolls.

  • March 20, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST

    Reviews are swaying me

    by Klytus_I.m_Bored

    For the most part the reviews are pointing to a very exciting finale. I'm becoming more optimistic that we'll get a lot of plot with a minimum of aimless character stuff.

  • March 20, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST

    I just want the endings to be satisfying

    by chrth

    and worth the journey. Nothing stupid like the bitch way Anya died.

  • March 20, 2009, 4:06 p.m. CST

    B S G Finale

    by Abdul_Alhazred

    I'm part of the VFX team. Trust me on this, because I am not shitting you: You guys are going to see some things you've always wanted to see. Things we've always wanted to do. It's mammoth in scale.

  • March 20, 2009, 4:07 p.m. CST

    "things you've always wanted to see"

    by chrth

    We're getting a Boomer-Athena-Seelix threeway?!? WOO-HOO!!!!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 4:18 p.m. CST

    BSG = Blastic Surgery

    by dioxholster

    nice superficial stuff there and there but really nothing to ponder save for the final beat of the drums.

  • March 20, 2009, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Klytus/Filmrage

    by DeckardBladeRunner

    I think today thre is alot of love for BSG, due to the amazing first 2.5 seasons, when this show was brilliant, it was 100% on top of it's game- best sci fi show up there with the peak of Babylon 5. <p> However as I have stated before, the show got so lost in the second half of season 3 that it went from a must see TV where I would race home to watch it, to something that became totally uninteresting and irrelevant to watch, and frankly that's sad. <p> The show will go down with the matrix Trilogy and Neon Genesis Evangelion as concepts taht were incredible and kick your ass to this day for the first part of it, and then all ended with confused convoluted writing, and egos of the creators smashing the product that people loved in the first place. <p> In all three cases I have been surprised that all three were so good, and yet got so bad/ confusing. And seeing all of the fans get upset on the talkback the last few weeks has been fun as well just from keeping up with the horrible plot turns and not having to waste the time watching the show - the whole final five nonsense/all along the watch tower had me punching out a long time ago. <p> However in the spirit of the amazing first 2.5 seasons of the show- farewell Nu BSG, you were really good, but you could have been so much more- a bittersweet ending to one of my former favorite shows! And I stand by my prediction that this finale will confuse and disappoint, and that SYFY will try like mad to rope everyone into watching more spin off garbage- damn their evil souls to hell.

  • March 20, 2009, 4:32 p.m. CST

    WILL THE GALACTICA GET OFF THE ISLAND????

    by S_Rorschach

    the final cylon is ///spoilers/// the statue of liberty.

  • March 20, 2009, 4:40 p.m. CST

    BSG is for dirty whores

    by dioxholster

    like this talkback

  • March 20, 2009, 4:44 p.m. CST

    best TV ever

    by BrowncoatJedi

    Yes, even better than Firefly, says Browncoat Jedi.

  • March 20, 2009, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Bill and Roslyn finally do the deed

    by lockesbrokenleg

    while the Galactica explodes.

  • March 20, 2009, 4:49 p.m. CST

    AINT IT COOL - Can't you ban Dioxholster?

    by American Mythos

    Really, I mean, some trolls are funny, even when they attack stuff I like (like BSG) -- but this guy isn't even remotely funny or clever. He's fucking annoying and I almost ALMOST wish he would just die.

  • March 20, 2009, 4:56 p.m. CST

    American Mythos

    by dioxholster

    you die first

  • March 20, 2009, 4:58 p.m. CST

    why wasn't AintItCoolNews invited to the screening?

    by Greenlee

    they even invited Howard Stern and his crew to the screening, but they snub AICN?

  • March 20, 2009, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Regarding Merrick....

    by YouKissTheWookie

    perhaps they couldnt afford to go traveling in space when the attacks happen, and is a reflection of our society, stupid! haha

  • March 20, 2009, 5:13 p.m. CST

    I can't frakkin' wait

    by decypher44

    I'm stopping off at the liquor store on the way home and grab a good bottle of scotch. I'll drink to the 'ol girl and share a toast with Togh and Adama. <br> <br> BSG lives forever. <br> <br> So Say We All !!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 5:14 p.m. CST

    ^ TIGH

    by decypher44

    My typos are getting worse. I should see someone about that.

  • March 20, 2009, 5:36 p.m. CST

    DeCypher44---YAY!

    by dioxholster

    Im also going to celebrate with a bottle of scotch!!! because im gonna finallt see the Stargate Universe trailer now during BSG!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    so this is 2 episodes?

    by punto

    which ammount to around 120 minutes? makes sense, last I saw was ep 19.

  • March 20, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    so this is 3 episodes?

    by punto

    which ammount to around 120 minutes? makes sense, last I saw was ep 19 (and frack me if the previous post went through)

  • March 20, 2009, 5:44 p.m. CST

    FINAL SHOT

    by berserkrl

    Slow pan down street toward figure in red ... wait, it's not Six ... figure turns toward screen ... it's -- "Mesa bein bombad Imperious Leader, okeyday?"

  • March 20, 2009, 5:46 p.m. CST

    American Mythos

    by Zip Chickenhead

    Don't sweat it brother. He's like 9 years old and looking for attention just let him be..

  • March 20, 2009, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Zip Chickenhead------ u need 2 be 4word.

    by dioxholster

    i could be obama for all you know. word to the wise, its the big people in the world that act this way on the internet. but im here to convince people how disgusting BSG is. at first it looked like it would be a good show but now look at it. terrible waste.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:01 p.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by Dotren

    I'm actually a fan of Stargate as well.. I didn't realize the trailer would be shown tonight.<p>I find it difficult to compare the two series because they're just so different. Battlestar is much more of a drama than a SciFi. Stargate, to me, is a more light-hearted touch on SciFi with some heavier elements mixed in. I don't think either one is better than the other, just that they're both great in what they do.<p>I'm hoping Universe is good but I'm hesitant to support "ScyFy" anymore than I already have.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by wtriker1701

    You surely NEED a male black hole to stick into.. dontcha? <br> Maybe you get your comeuppance t'night. Stick deep, bitch! <br> And pllllease don't insult stargate by referencing to it all the time... unworthy!

  • March 20, 2009, 6:05 p.m. CST

    A thank you to Chrth and the live TB'ers...

    by kronos6948

    I haven't had cable in about 5 years, so the internet has been the way that I've caught BSG, 24, and Lost. I actually watch the show while reading the TB from the night before, because I really enjoy the banter. Now, I realize that Lost and 24 are on over the air TV, but I hate messing with the rabbit ears to get the signal right, hate the commercials, and my computer isn't close enough to the TV. At least the way I watch it now, the show covers 3/4ths of the screen, and I have a couple of lines of TB underneath. Thanks again for enjoyable TBs!

  • March 20, 2009, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Stargate Universe Cast Photo!!

    by dioxholster

    http://tinyurl.com/c5rsrn

  • March 20, 2009, 6:10 p.m. CST

    kronos6948

    by dioxholster

    no, thank you!

  • March 20, 2009, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Dotren---BSG is void. Stargate is vibrant

    by dioxholster

    I know what u mean, but these guys bashed stargate unfairly and now its payback time.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:19 p.m. CST

    stargate is for forty year olds who think sat a.m. cartoons

    by Kenny_Fuckin_Powers

    are deep.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Stargate and Dr. Who set sci fi back 50 years

    by lockesbrokenleg

    just terrible shows

  • March 20, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    OMG BBC likes BSG! lol

    by dioxholster

    stupid article about BSG ending lol: http://tinyurl.com/c5rsrn ---i cant believe the media likes such obvious crap even BBC!

  • March 20, 2009, 6:27 p.m. CST

    you're still here?

    by Montag666

    Jesus! It's been like 5 hours since my last post and dioxholder is still trolling like a fiend! Dude, you are so a 9 year old! It's not even funny!

  • March 20, 2009, 6:34 p.m. CST

    Hollowed are the Ori!

    by dioxholster

    ***Kenny_Fuckin_Powers says: "stargate is for forty year olds who think sat a.m. cartoons are deep." <p> my response: "Fuck You" ***lockesbrokenleg says: "Stargate and Dr. Who set sci fi back 50 years. just terrible shows" <p> my response: "Fuck You"

  • March 20, 2009, 6:36 p.m. CST

    LAST SHOT

    by lockesbrokenleg

    We go back three seasons, and Adama wakes up from his coma. He looks around and just kills all the Cylons he can.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:37 p.m. CST

    Montag666---- ur mom hates u

    by dioxholster

    ur world is a joke. is that funny for ya?

  • March 20, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    lockesbrokenleg

    by wtriker1701

    Which drug is it you haven't taken? Stargate's good, Dr. Who IS almost 50 years old. What's your point? <br> BSG has it's faults -imho - but I'm eagerly waiting for the finale, I'm simply more into LOST - the most intelligent scifi-show out there... <br> BUT... don't insult other great shows! <br> Just DON'T!

  • March 20, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    They bashed stargate and now it's payback time

    by tbransonlives

    Wow

  • March 20, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    FOAD dioxholster...

    by Hairy Nutsack

    Fuck Off And Die dioxholster!<p> SO SAY WE ALL!!<p> I'm a little depressed, I won't be able to see it until the second airing tonight. At the same time I'm happy because tonight my son starts his hockey playoffs. Quite the conundrum...

  • March 20, 2009, 6:40 p.m. CST

    WHAT DONT YOU FUCKING UNDERSTAND?

    by dioxholster

    u guys here celebrating BSG ending. but im here celebrating Stargate Universe's trailer premiere. our destiny's meet. thats why im here fuckheads.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:42 p.m. CST

    Dude

    by Montag666

    you're 9.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:44 p.m. CST

    I tried to watch Stargate and Dr. Who

    by lockesbrokenleg

    The paaaain. The paaaaainnnn.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:44 p.m. CST

    I'll tell you what's really funny

    by Montag666

    "They bashed stargate and now it's payback time". Wow indeed.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Montag666---- if i were 9

    by dioxholster

    would i write this: "Interestingly, the pre-modeling mechanism associated with beings and its influences according to the being’s mass in space shares similarities with the concept of Plato’s recollection, where one bears prior knowledge of everything that is only revealed once discovered through cognitive thought. The difference here is that recollection suggests the innate information is stored within before creation unlike Heidegger’s projection of being that explicitly depends on empirical and more clairvoyant influences."

  • March 20, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    God the original's music is fucking awesome

    by picardsucks

    Love the Bear but that opening overture from the original may be in the top five all time with Star Trek The Motion Picture, Star wars Raiders and Lawrence of Arabia

  • March 20, 2009, 6:47 p.m. CST

    God the original's music is fucking awesome

    by picardsucks

    Love the Bear but that opening overture from the original may be in the top five all time with Star Trek The Motion Picture, Star wars Raiders and Lawrence of Arabia

  • March 20, 2009, 6:49 p.m. CST

    BTW

    by wtriker1701

    I LOVE BSG's acting AND atmosphere (and the GREAT mcreary-soundtrack). The BSG-Family is great stuff! I simply think it's less scifi than soapy... <br> Too much resemblance to our "today". That's where I cannot help but ask, WHY they have octagon-shape paper - whilst havin' pistols and jeeps and all natural american stuff... <br> That's why it hasn't been my greatest SCIFI-Show. <br> BUT to all the technobabble-haters out there: ONE Black Hole - and it's ALL SciFi BACK again... luv that!

  • March 20, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Now now you be nice

    by dixholdersmom

    and it's pronounced DICKSHOLDER...

  • March 20, 2009, 6:50 p.m. CST

    No

    by Montag666

    But you could paste it. Get some rest. You've done all you can for the Stargate cause. Your work here is done. So say we all!

  • March 20, 2009, 6:51 p.m. CST

    loeckesbrokenleg - The Pain

    by wtriker1701

    THAT's where you broke? Poor brutha... ;-)

  • March 20, 2009, 6:54 p.m. CST

    dixholdersmom

    by dioxholster

    thats low, really low. as low as BSG.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Montag666---paste it?

    by dioxholster

    fuck you that was from an essay i wrote two years ago!

  • March 20, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST

    Dioxholster - So does that mean you believe...

    by commiepinko

    ...in the collective unconscious?

  • March 20, 2009, 6:58 p.m. CST

    It's alright

    by Montag666

    Look. The long hours are getting to you. Look how irritable and defensive you are. Give it a rest already. I feel terrible. I should be talking about theories and stuff instead of giving you advise.

  • March 20, 2009, 6:59 p.m. CST

    NO MORE Technobabble

    by wtriker1701

    BSG: Black Hole??? <br> ALL chronicon particles within tachyon parameters... WAIT!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 7:03 p.m. CST

    Gods this show is amazing.

    by AshokZero

    Gonna be sad to see her go. Thank you Ron Moore, for 4 seasons of one of the best science fiction series which has been done on film.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Less than an hour left, I'm so pumped, please don't suck

    by bullet3

  • March 20, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Sing-a-long time! Keep it Going!

    by br1947

  • March 20, 2009, 7:07 p.m. CST

    "There must be some kinda way out of here.."

    by br1947

  • March 20, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    yeah see im not 9 biatch

    by dioxholster

    these things dont write themselves: "This is a progressive step in thought and ideas as nature itself is considered artful not only because of its posture and prevalence but also for its purpose and our dependence on it. All that also describes technology and such assimilation between two frameworks could be unprecedented. A factor worth mentioning that differentiates nature from technology is that nature is wielded by an unknown authoritarian force while technology is a figment or rather a strong extension of our imagination. There is no mystery there, knowing how data compresses or how clocks maintain an accurate time, even though it’s worth knowing it still pales in comparison with nature’s intricate or precise forces and its likely randomness. However, it is strange that humans always label nature as flawless when nothing in reality justifies that claim."

  • March 20, 2009, 7:12 p.m. CST

    "The joker said to the thief"

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Ron Moore is urine in beer

    by dioxholster

    suck it up BSG fags.

  • Just out of interest, when would be a good time?

  • March 20, 2009, 7:18 p.m. CST

    Shan: When the Sentinels are closing in on you

    by chrth

    Duh ;)

  • March 20, 2009, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Good night, sweet BSG

    by Marduk

    We hardly knew ye.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Sleep BSG sleepppppppp!

    by dioxholster

    bye bye, old fart.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:27 p.m. CST

    TIME FOR THE BAN HAMMER!

    by Pennsy

    *glares at dioxholster* <p> If the Ender Smites Foes were still here, he'd verbally nuke this guy. :)

  • March 20, 2009, 7:29 p.m. CST

    FREE THE ENDER SMITES FOES!

    by chrth

    Somebody had to say it

  • March 20, 2009, 7:30 p.m. CST

    And yes, SGU is going to rule

    by Marduk

    I am telling you. Excelsior!<p> BTW, I have a naked singularity in my pants. Let's see if you can find it.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST

    Salute

    by shellfishh

    You've done a man's job, Adama. It's too bad Galactica won't live. But then again...who does??

  • March 20, 2009, 7:36 p.m. CST

    wtriker1701

    by lockesbrokenleg

    lol, yeah man. I watched Stargate and my head exploded

  • March 20, 2009, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Stargate...

    by ulcer

    Stargate SG-1 is indeed incredible. I've just started to watch it a year ago. I can't believe the times I've wasted when I younger watching the Star Trek series. SG-1 is the best implemented mix of well developped mythology, characters, action.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:46 p.m. CST

    lets get back to BSG

    by dixholdersmom

    Enough with Stargate, Dr. Who and the other inferior garbage..they don't hold a candle to BSG..I may have the unfortunate lot in life to be dicksuckers er I mean dickholders whore of a mother, but I do have taste..LONG LIVE BSG!

  • March 20, 2009, 7:47 p.m. CST

    dioxholster's just pissed...

    by geekzapoppin

    because some goats crossed his bridge and he went home empty-handed. Well, not entirely empty-handed. He tugs on those two inches of swinging fury quite often. By the way, Stargate is teh ghey.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:48 p.m. CST

    Timeline for the show.

    by Shan

  • March 20, 2009, 7:49 p.m. CST

    Timeline for the show.

    by Shan

    I found this very impressive timeline someone linked to from io9.com at: <p> http://airplanelandingfield.org/bsg/BSG%20SpaceTimeline.jpg

  • March 20, 2009, 7:50 p.m. CST

    Pennsy Re:dioxholster

    by medicinaluser

    I second the BanHammer request if his Mother can't control his faggotry he needs banning plain as.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:53 p.m. CST

    chrth

    by Shan

    Consider me properly chastised.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Thanks ahead of time to all of you who have

    by Pennsy

    been a part of these BSG talkbacks. My dad and I are going to watch the finale, so that's why I'll only pop in here occasionally. It's been a great run, and even though I feel sad the journey is over, the destination part of it has been mostly exciting. I will sorely miss this show.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:55 p.m. CST

    Medicnaluser

    by dixholdersmom

    Believe me, I've tried to control his faggotry ways but to no avail..after tonight I'll be banning him from his boyfriends nutsack for talking shit about an excellent show that is Battlestar Galactica..

  • March 20, 2009, 7:57 p.m. CST

    I'm going to be a little late

    by chrth

    Finishing up Bones from last night. But I should catch up pretty quick.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    I'm gonna be crying like Adama

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Sad.

  • March 20, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    haha CNN hates BSG!

    by dioxholster

    check this out: http://tinyurl.com/c5rsrn

  • March 20, 2009, 8 p.m. CST

    Stargate: My Left Nut

    by MJohnson

  • March 20, 2009, 8 p.m. CST

    Just as long as you don't cry like Helo

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 8 p.m. CST

    And here - we - go

    by wcme

    I sure hope Cooper gets out of the Black Lodge this time.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:01 p.m. CST

    it feels slightly sacreligious...

    by Ron Burgandy

    ...seeing the uninspiring and middling SG series mentioned in a TB for the Galactica finale I have to say. I concede it can be entertaining enough at times and has a good camraderie amongst the characters but it is formulaic and doesn't exactly push the boundaries does it now. Anyway...its frakkin starting!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:01 p.m. CST

    chrth--u watch Bones?

    by dioxholster

    that is awesome! i love that show!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:01 p.m. CST

    I bet the drunk driver is...

    by MisterE

    Baltar's dad. "He was happy the last time I saw him", says Six.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Is it worth it?

    by DANNYGLOVERS_DIKKBLOOD

    Obama clearly hates the disabled... and Stargate. Yep, hates 'em both. In fact, I think Obama only likes one show - Uncle Festus' Wig Willy Chick'n Barn.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Why exactly does

    by Defrost

    Adama hang out with drunks?

  • March 20, 2009, 8:04 p.m. CST

    YEEEEAHHHHHHHH!!!!

    by wcme

    Nothing like a strip club to start off a series finale.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:07 p.m. CST

    Hot for teacher

    by wcme

    This chick is hot - she stands in fountains!!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:08 p.m. CST

    eww Roslin gettin frisky

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    where's my cyanide pill!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:08 p.m. CST

    How do I reach these kids?

    by Marduk

    Hey, the SG franchise still is cost-effective fun in an otherwise dying genre.<p> Low budget, reasonably written sci-fi with a sense of humor is still better than no sci-fi at all.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:08 p.m. CST

    STUPID COMCAST!

    by Jax

    I don't have Sci-Fi cause Comcast doesn't include it in the basic digital. BUT, for some unknown reason, they show BSG on OnDemand at midnight. BUT that means I have to wait for midnight! DAMMIT!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:08 p.m. CST

    YEEEEAHHHHHHHH!!!! x2

    by wcme

    A full of drunk fest at 5+

  • March 20, 2009, 8:09 p.m. CST

    I think I prefer

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Adam meldowns to Adama barfing

  • March 20, 2009, 8:09 p.m. CST

    ADAMA VOMIT FTW

    by p5mmr9

    seriously

  • March 20, 2009, 8:09 p.m. CST

    I'm gonna be cryin like Lee

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Stargate is the BEST

    by dioxholster

    me and all my friends watched it religiously. we cant get enough of it and we reference it all the time. BSG is so ego-centric to the level of being unwatchable. i mean they did the UN thing for fuck's sake! thats trash. but stargate is king of sci fi!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:10 p.m. CST

    Tigh at a strip club? No shock there.

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • I will vomit all over myself at an alley while looking like a 3 year old grinning at the stars!! (TIME FOR SHOTS!!)

  • March 20, 2009, 8:12 p.m. CST

    Not a great start

    by vorlonkosh

    More damn flashbacks

  • March 20, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Time's a-wastin'

    by jimmy rabbitte

    they batter get moving, with the revelations already.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Got it Bad, Got it Bad, Got it Bad

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Olmos' teeth marks on the scenery.

    by DonnaDarko

    I would have bid for that on Ebay. (I KID! I KID!)

  • March 20, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST

    Adama is like the audience right now

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST

    FOR FRAK'S SAKE!

    by RaveX

    yeah... sure. why not miss first 7 minutes. I'll take you had some clock moving thingy in the last week or so...? <p> bah, would someone please be kind enough for a recap? please? pretty please?

  • March 20, 2009, 8:15 p.m. CST

    DUTCH!

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    always liked that guy

  • March 20, 2009, 8:16 p.m. CST

    see George W. Bush in Stargate!

    by dioxholster

    heres the picture i made(believe me you will love this): <p> http://tinyurl.com/d4qsm9 <p> its president Bush last year congratulating SGC for defeating Ori. and giving them medals and stuff.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:17 p.m. CST

    Hurry up and make with the 'splodies

    by Marduk

    Time is money

  • March 20, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    How Adama got his groove back

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    How Adama got his groove back

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Who is this guy

    by Defrost

    that Adama put in charge?

  • March 20, 2009, 8:19 p.m. CST

    re: Hurry up and make with the 'splodies

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Yeah! What he said!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:20 p.m. CST

    get over it...THEY ALL DIE

    by Nobody_Touches_Buddy_Revell

  • March 20, 2009, 8:20 p.m. CST

    The crazy lawyer?

    by Defrost

    He's the President?

  • March 20, 2009, 8:20 p.m. CST

    Adama will be the only survivor

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Oooh, Trekkian technobabble

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 8:21 p.m. CST

    Yay Hoshi was promoted!

    by chrth

    Second best Hoshi in Science Fiction history

  • March 20, 2009, 8:22 p.m. CST

    "You procreated me"

    by wcme

    I must write that one down

  • March 20, 2009, 8:22 p.m. CST

    he's the guy

    by RaveX

    to whom tigh said in last episode "you're never gonna make admiral this way" <p> great judge of character, that man... :)

  • March 20, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    If we can avoid anymore annoying flashbacks

    by vorlonkosh

    this is shaping up to be great!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Defrost

    by Dotren

    "The crazy lawyer?"<p>Exactly, he's like the perfect president! At least by current American standards :P

  • March 20, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST

    Lampkin is President! MWAHAHAHAHA

    by chrth

    It's like BSG is putting their 3rd Team scrubs in when they're down (or up) by 30.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:24 p.m. CST

    aaaannnd...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    they're still wasting time...

  • March 20, 2009, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Commercials

    by Dotren

    Are apparently going to be back-to-back trailers.<p>Not that I mind the one for Stargate and the new Star Trek movie... just sayin, it's like a big advertising night on SciFi.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:24 p.m. CST

    BALTAR FTW!

    by chrth

    It's about time he grew a real backbone

  • March 20, 2009, 8:25 p.m. CST

    every line of this episode is fuckin gold

    by Kenny_Fuckin_Powers

    "its not too late to flush them all out the airlock"

  • March 20, 2009, 8:26 p.m. CST

    That Hulu commercial

    by Dotren

    Was complete, 100%, pure win.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:26 p.m. CST

    dioxholster should probably let it go

    by Uncle Clay

    Perhaps dioxholster would feel better were his medication better regulated... And, dioxholster, let me save you the trouble of responding to me by doing it for you: --- my response "Fuck you." --- Don't we all feel better now?

  • March 20, 2009, 8:27 p.m. CST

    We go Flight!

    by chrth

    (oh, I'm caught up)

  • March 20, 2009, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Classic Centurion!

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 8:28 p.m. CST

    Handing a gun to Baltar

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    is only one magnitude less being in deep shit than handing a gun to Ben

  • March 20, 2009, 8:28 p.m. CST

    Launching from the museum!?!

    by Dotren

    OMG thats going to be cool.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:28 p.m. CST

    "Fair Point"

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 8:29 p.m. CST

    White knuckle character development

    by Marduk

    But things seem to be picking up.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:29 p.m. CST

    Missed first 10... help!

    by OhioBobcat

    DVR went wonky and we started with the doc and Roslin. Can I get a recap og the opening flashbacks and any present stuff we missed? Thanks!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:30 p.m. CST

    ENGAGE!

    by RaveX

    oops, wrong show.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:30 p.m. CST

    Oh god it's killing me

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    watching the girl take that pounding

  • March 20, 2009, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Here We Go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by medicinaluser

    Frak Yeh

  • March 20, 2009, 8:31 p.m. CST

    What do you mean, Flash Gordon approaching?

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Actual Galactica action

    by wcme

    AT BLOODY LAST!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:32 p.m. CST

    AMAZING!!!!!

    by BigMick

    Colonial Troops and Cylon Centurions invading cylon colony....Frakking awesome is the only way to describe this.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:32 p.m. CST

    DAAAAYUMN!

    by RaveX

  • March 20, 2009, 8:32 p.m. CST

    GIVE ME RAMMING SPEED

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    HONEY I'M HOME!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Starbuck

    by BigMick

    Kara Thrace is in top form during this invasion

  • March 20, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Theories about saving CGI budget were spot on

    by Gawdfather

    And it's friggin' awesome!!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Picard taught me that little trick

    by wcme

  • March 20, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Wow!

    by attackpatterndelta

    ADAMA IS not PLAYING!!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:33 p.m. CST

    Wow!

    by attackpatterndelta

    ADAMA IS not PLAYING!!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:34 p.m. CST

    The Music Rawks!

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    oh yeah, the dvd will be mine

  • March 20, 2009, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Saving CGI for finale, that is...

    by Gawdfather

    ...and still awesome!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:34 p.m. CST

    I'm SO gonna need to see this in blu-ray...

    by RaveX

  • March 20, 2009, 8:34 p.m. CST

    Did we just beat Atmo Jump?

    by Dotren

  • March 20, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST

    am i the only one...

    by Ron Burgandy

    with a mild erection right now...frak me......

  • March 20, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST

    during that scene.....

    by BigMick

    I couldn't even sit still, hahaha

  • March 20, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST

    SDF-1 Daedalus Maneuver

    by maxsterling

    It's Macross/Robotech Daedalus maneuver. Way to go Misa/Lisa!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    "This reminds me of that time that...

    by wcme

    my head was splattered by a giant rock"

  • March 20, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    STARGATEEEEEEEEEEEE

    by dioxholster

    YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    did anyone see that???

    by BigMick

    The centurion choke out an older model cylon than blow his head off??? Holy Frak!!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    re: am i the only one...

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    feelin the chub are ya?

  • March 20, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Math ain't everything

    by chrth

    Wow ... oooh, first look at Caprica

  • March 20, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST

    I would have preferred a man-in-suit classic centurion

    by FluffyUnbound

    But the CGI one was OK too.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Thank god

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    get to watch it again tonight

  • March 20, 2009, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Caprica

    by Defrost

    looks like a shitty soap opera with robots

  • March 20, 2009, 8:38 p.m. CST

    cylon 90210

    by RaveX

  • March 20, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    First 90 mins of flashbacks

    by wcme

    unneeded - yes, this is what we want "shiny things and exploding ships" Fuck "characters" shows

  • March 20, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Haters can suck it.

    by Tai_Pan

    The scale of this battle is enormous. At least there shall be no bitching about a lack of action.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Fuck YEAH!!!

    by BigMick

    fuck you Boomer

  • March 20, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Star Wars reference!

    by berserkrl

    Simon's line to Boomer is Tarkin's line on the Death Star.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Wow deluxe already...

    by Pennsy

    *in awe*

  • March 20, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Screw JK Harris, hire Michael Westin

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    just so I'm clear

    by Irish Ape

    it's "Boomer" that just broke math boy's neck, and athena (Hera's mother) who's with Helo and Starbuck, right?

  • March 20, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Caprica

    by Dotren

    Yeah I admit the preview looked like an episode of The O.C. but I'll withhold judgment.<p>I've seen some reviews that say its actually very good.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Caprica

    by millermeusa

    Caprica will be crap!!! This is BSG!!!!! now and forever!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:41 p.m. CST

    Back, guns blazing

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 8:42 p.m. CST

    Irish Ape

    by Dotren

    Yes, Boomer was the only Eight to stay with Cavil's bunch.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Promos for Caprica

    by Marduk

    Umm.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Really? Ya Think?

    by chrth

    Cavil in FINE form tonight

  • March 20, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Character...

    by attackpatterndelta

    Stories can be terrific, especially mixesd with just the right amount of SPLOSSSIONNNNNS!!! :)

  • March 20, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Yay Bobcats won

    by chrth

    Gaius get some!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    LMAO

    by RaveX

    cavil ftw! :D:D:D

  • March 20, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    YES! DOUBLE IN-HEADS!

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 8:45 p.m. CST

    "You see them?"

    by wcme

    ANSWERS PLEASE!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:45 p.m. CST

    STARGATE

    by dioxholster

    STARGATE STARGATE STARGATE STARGATE STARGATE STARGATE

  • March 20, 2009, 8:46 p.m. CST

    Ape must never kill ape!

    by FluffyUnbound

    Too late.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Boomer flashback!

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Always time for another drink!

    by wcme

    "The doctors in!"

  • March 20, 2009, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Damn Boomer

    by Dotren

    I was still kinda hoping for her. Guess she found some redemption in the end. Wonder how Tyrol is going to react.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:49 p.m. CST

    My prediction: Roslin has to put a black X on Adama

    by FluffyUnbound

    As someone who can't be saved. OK that won't actually happen but it would be balls if it did.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:49 p.m. CST

    "Stopped for Coffee"

    by chrth

    Mmmmm ... coffee ...

  • March 20, 2009, 8:49 p.m. CST

    The first honest to god character moment!

    by wcme

    Not pigeons needed!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:49 p.m. CST

    oh... she'll pay you back. twice.

    by RaveX

  • March 20, 2009, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Sad knowing that budgetary limitations forced BSG

    by Gawdfather

    into the crapfest that was much of this season. Beause it's the combination of plot, character, and action that make BSG great. Not timeholder "character" episodes, that bridge the ones where they can afford to bring it all together.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST

    dioxholster

    by Marduk

    You are the spoofiest spoof that has ever spoofed.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:51 p.m. CST

    Breathless

    by NudeandAroused

    This is very exciting.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:51 p.m. CST

    My nerd-boner has exploded...

    by BicNowler

    ...& now all of AICN is pregnant. Let's see the series-finale of "Lost" top this.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    BTW - WTF does "FTW" mean!

    by wcme

    "Fail!" (I dont know what that means either)

  • March 20, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    STARGATE FTW!!!!!!!!!!!

    by dioxholster

    STARGATE RULES

  • March 20, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    And Boomed dies one final time

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    I still say she'd been victimized from the beginning.<p> Calvil fucked with her programing.<p> She's had crisis'es from the first season

  • March 20, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    How did the episode start?

    by OhioBobcat

    We missed the first ten minutes due to a DVR frak up. First thing we saw was the Doc telling Roslin this was it for her. Thanks so much!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    gah fucking spell checker *Boomer

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    pppbbblllttt

  • March 20, 2009, 8:52 p.m. CST

    Bjornegar

    by gotilk

    Right, because we all agree in talkback. PHHT

  • March 20, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST

    My nerd-boner has exploded...

    by Tai_Pan

    So say we all!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST

    We're full circle from the mini-series

    by longtimereaderfirsttimeposter

    Adama wanted to go out in a blaze of glory fighting, looks like he's finally getting his wish.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST

    In-head 6 and baltar

    by Ron Burgandy

    did anyone else shout out after they realized they both were seeing them and got interrupted by an explosion. So close to figuring out something dammit....still, 75 min left (including adverts I guess...dayum they're long tonight)...

  • March 20, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST

    gawdfather

    by wcme

    RIGHT ON! Gods, the last 4 eps and the first 25 mins here were UNEEDED!!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:53 p.m. CST

    STARGATE UNIVERSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by dioxholster

    oh man that looked AWESOME and non-stargatish at all

  • March 20, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    I said it before and will

    by medicinaluser

    say it again Mike Golic still looks like a fatty.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Tai_Pan

    by gotilk

    So say we all!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    Heh, Baltar having to have his gun lifted by 6

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    STARGATE UNIVERSE trailer

    by dioxholster

    was cool! best thing EVAR!!!!! BSG sucks balls!!!!!!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:57 p.m. CST

    and the dream

    by RaveX

    becomes reality

  • March 20, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Opera House

    by chrth

    Hmmmm

  • March 20, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Where'r the Jedi's

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    they're going to all die!

  • March 20, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Cavil has no fear!

    by chrth

    Music is awesome

  • March 20, 2009, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Ha! Nice "Lost" musical cue...

    by Gawdfather

    ...love it when composers have a sense of humor.

  • March 20, 2009, 8:59 p.m. CST

    They should've tranq'd Hera

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Someone LEASH that child!

    by wcme

  • March 20, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    So?

    by Defrost

    What is the exit strategy here?

  • March 20, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    Baltar, Caprica 6 and Hera - off into sunset

    by FluffyUnbound

    FTW

  • March 20, 2009, 9:01 p.m. CST

    STARGATE UNIVERSE kicks ass!!$%^#^##%@$$1

    by dioxholster

    @$%#$^$%&%*^%$^@@@#%#$^$@!!!!!!^$&$#&%$^%^#^##$ YAY!!!!!!!!!@%@^@@^@#6

  • March 20, 2009, 9:02 p.m. CST

    #%#$^%#@##^STARGATE UNIVERSE !$^$*(*&(^*%$&#$&#^#$^@#@

    by dioxholster

    #^#^&%$&@@@%$@^&**&^^^^I^&*$#@#%$@%@#&^$%&&*%^&$%^#$^#$^#%@#$!@@@$!^%%$&*^&( YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA@@@@@@@@@@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:02 p.m. CST

    well played, mr. moore

    by RaveX

    well played.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:02 p.m. CST

    The Opera House is the CIC!

    by chrth

    The Five!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:02 p.m. CST

    And the "overpowering two guards" plot device

    by Gawdfather

    reveals its ugly head. Eh, wouldn't be BSG, or any drama with action, without it.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST

    *^(*&)*&^*%STARGATE UNIVERSE !$^$%&$%&$%&@#%@%@&%

    by dioxholster

  • March 20, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST

    OPERA HOUSE

    by wcme

    Incredible payoff!!!!!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    I may be mad, but that doesn't mean I'm not right

    by chrth

    Words to live by

  • March 20, 2009, 9:04 p.m. CST

    %^%$^$@#$@$@%^STARGATE UNIVERSE is COOL!!^@!$!$#%$#$%#%#%!#^$$$$

    by dioxholster

    @!$@##$%^%$#&^%&*$%&$#^%@%$#%#@$^#@^$%^$ STARGATE IS AWESOME $%#$%##^#@%@#%@#$%#@$%@#

  • March 20, 2009, 9:05 p.m. CST

    Leap of faith

    by shellfishh

    Another Lost reference.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Ressurection traded for Armistice?

    by Dotren

    This has all happened before...

  • March 20, 2009, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Everyone stand down

    by Marduk

  • March 20, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Finally...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    it's approaching epic proportions.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Is this the Supernatural TB?

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    threadjack?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    So the in-head Baltar and Six were God?

    by FluffyUnbound

    God speaking to critical players on each side?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Finally, a Baltar moment

    by chrth

    It's been too damn long

  • March 20, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    ZOMG, THERE'

    by J-Dizzle

  • March 20, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    THAT'S why Hera was important.

    by Tai_Pan

    That she is a hybrid is just incidental symbolism. SHE'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE SHE'S THE LYNCHPIN FOR A CEASEFIRE/PEACE.<p> That's pretty fucking brilliant (even if the way it was explained is a bit ham-handed).

  • March 20, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    DIOXHOLSTER

    by wcme

    Will YOU PLEASE stand the FRACK down!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    WCME

    by p5mmr9

    FTW = For The Win

  • March 20, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    65 mins in and

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    no bewbs

  • March 20, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Dotren: FANTASTIC CALL

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    There's still an hour to go, though...

    by Pennsy

    WHat can they possibly do to fill it??

  • March 20, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    ZOMG, THERE'S STILL ANOTHER HOUR LEFT!!!!!

    by J-Dizzle

    Head 'splodes!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Very nice tie-in...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    with the opera house dream. Ron Moore is the king of BSG writing.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:08 p.m. CST

    there is far too much time left...the knife will twist..

    by Irish Ape

    and I just have a feeling it is going to be the deal breaker on the entire series. I just don't think it's Caville that will do it

  • March 20, 2009, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Mods, wake the fuck up.

    by Tai_Pan

    Diox is asking you to ban him/her. I suggest you oblige.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:09 p.m. CST

    NO! I don't want disney to plant a tree in my honor!

    by RaveX

    didn't they see the happening?!??

  • March 20, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Where's the fuck Helo!

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    damit

  • March 20, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Turns out Roslin and Hera were worried for nothing

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    For frakk's sake, it's called SyFy now!

    by DarthBakpao

  • March 20, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Cavil continues to be in fine form!

    by chrth

    Tory's experiencing Callum Regret!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:10 p.m. CST

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$^STARGATE UNIVERSE^

    by dioxholster

  • March 20, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Callum? I meant Callie (that was her name, right)

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Tigh is the best. The fucking best.

    by FluffyUnbound

    He's truly a Bones McCoy scale cool character.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Chief is going to be pissed

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    $#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$^STARGATE UNIVERSE^$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$

    by dioxholster

    $#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$^STARGATE UNIVERSE^$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$#$

  • March 20, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    That went well

    by Defrost

    Or not

  • March 20, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Fitting end for Calvil

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    the cowards way out

  • March 20, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Interview with "Galactica's Science Guru"

    by BurnHollywood

    ...at MSNBC, where he explains their use of the "naked singularity":<p> http://tinyurl.com/bsgguru

  • March 20, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    I DID NOT EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN

    by chrth

    OR THAT

  • March 20, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Nukes?

    by FluffyUnbound

    Holy shit

  • March 20, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    $*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$^STARGATE UNIVERSE^$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$

    by dioxholster

    $*$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$STARGATE UNIVERSE$*$*$*$*$*$*$*$

  • March 20, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Holy Shit

    by Dotren

    And was Racetrack dead? Damn :(

  • March 20, 2009, 9:13 p.m. CST

    OH FUCK YES!

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    "There must be some kind of way out of here"

    by chrth

    You better hope so Kara Thrace

  • March 20, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    YES!!! Right when it was descending into hokum

    by Gawdfather

    Moore saves it from itself with shit hitting the fan! Way to go Chief! I'm sure the hokum will return before we're done, though.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    DAMN!

    by attackpatterndelta

    Tyrol, we know your feelings were hurt but DAMN suck up for i don't know the whole fracking human race!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    DAMN!

    by attackpatterndelta

    Tyrol, we know your feelings were hurt but DAMN suck up for i don't know the whole fracking human race!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST

    $@$@$@$@$@$@$@$@$^STARGATE UNIVERSE^$@$@$@$@$@$@$@$@$

    by dioxholster

    $@$@$@$@$@$@$@$@$^STARGATE UNIVERSE^$@$@$@$@$@$@$@$@$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • March 20, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Awesome

    by FluffyUnbound

    Just had to say that

  • March 20, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Bob Dylan saved Battlestar Galactica!

    by chrth

    Isn't this what we knew would happen all along?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:15 p.m. CST

    $@$@$@$@$@$@$^STARGATE UNIVERSE^$@$@$@$@$@$@$@$@$

    by dioxholster

    it ROCKSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS@@@@@@@@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:16 p.m. CST

    Tell me that wasn't a Shadow vessel

    by Marduk

    Tip o' the hat to B5.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Galactica is having issues

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST

    I called the Galactica was the Opera House

    by lockesbrokenleg

    last week

  • March 20, 2009, 9:17 p.m. CST

    FTL Offline. Job Complete

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    nice touch

  • March 20, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Sweet Jesus!

    by wcme

    PAYOFF action in the mighty marvel manner!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:18 p.m. CST

    EARTH, BITCH!!!

    by Gawdfather

    Sweet.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Moore said the last Earth was Earth

    by FluffyUnbound

    LIAR LIAR

  • March 20, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    IT'S THE REAL EARTH!

    by chrth

    Or one with a continent that looks suspiciously like Africa!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    EARTH!!!

    by attackpatterndelta

    Again??? Or for the first time?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Yeah, tell me that ain't Africa

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Welcome to Earth<p> (not Earf mutha fuckas)

  • March 20, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    HOLY MOTHERFUCKING SHIT...

    by Pennsy

    Earth??

  • March 20, 2009, 9:19 p.m. CST

    BAN HAMMER

    by donkey_lasher

    The time has come Dioxholster/DeckardBladeRunner, oh yes. Enjoy the show guys, I'll be with you soon.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Cyclops?

    by chrth

    Huh, didn't know he was in Wolverine.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:20 p.m. CST

    What year?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 9:20 p.m. CST

    I just blew another wad

    by wcme

    I dont have enough jizz now for Jessica Alba tonight. Shes gonna be pissed.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:20 p.m. CST

    who the fuck is dioxholster, and how can he be neutered?

    by Irish Ape

    other than that.....HOLY SHIT...50 minutes left...not enough

  • March 20, 2009, 9:20 p.m. CST

    Or did they jump THROUGH the singularity?

    by FluffyUnbound

    And jump in time as well as space?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST

    They did leap very close to a singularity

    by chrth

    Could they have travelled in time in addition to space?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST

    FluffyUnbound

    by berserkrl

    No, he wasn't a liar. Reread EXACTLY what RM said. This is old news.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Where the fuck is Helo

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Did he get evacuated?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST

    Personally, I blame Racetrack...

    by Pennsy

    ;)

  • March 20, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST

    So that the last Earth WAS Earth, but so is this one?

    by FluffyUnbound

    So Moore didn't lie?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:21 p.m. CST

    by DARKJEDI

    So now the handoff to Battlestar galactica 1980

  • March 20, 2009, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Yeah, Africa... Egypt... the pyramids...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    ...imagery from the original series... maybe.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:22 p.m. CST

    fucking earth wow!

    by tristeele

  • March 20, 2009, 9:22 p.m. CST

    "Greetings From Earth"

    by wcme

    Apollo 1 do you copy?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Cavil For the win

    by megatom5

    "Frakk it!" then eats a bullet fucking brilliant out for that character

  • March 20, 2009, 9:22 p.m. CST

    50 minutes to go ... what else will we learn?

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Musical Cue

    by wcme

    I am sure you all caught that!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:23 p.m. CST

    Ancient Earth!!!

    by attackpatterndelta

  • March 20, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST

    "One track mind, Doc" hehheh.

    by Gawdfather

    Otherwise, uh, WTF?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:25 p.m. CST

    They're all going to die of chicken pox!!!

    by tonagan

  • March 20, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Play Scrabble with the apemen

    by wcme

    See if you get "the answer"

  • March 20, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Blah blah blah

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Our Ancestor

    by attackpatterndelta

    They WENT there guys. :)

  • March 20, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Our Ancestor

    by attackpatterndelta

    They WENT there guys. :)

  • March 20, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST

    Gaah, it's gettin cheezy

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    where's the naked 8 party?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST

    No way would chicks give up tampons

    by FluffyUnbound

    Sorry Apollo

  • March 20, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST

    WTF?????

    by millermeusa

    Am I watching BSG or frackin Animal Planet????????

  • March 20, 2009, 9:27 p.m. CST

    wow...

    by RaveX

    using this ending... that took some guts.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    They get out and all die of chicken pox

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Way too much time left for this to go smooth

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Can I just say...

    by gotilk

    Holy Crap!!??

  • March 20, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    So what do they do for the last half an hour?

    by FluffyUnbound

    Does Les Stroud come out and start a fire for Adama?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    "Setting them free with break the cycle of violence"

    by Gawdfather

    What a load of horseshit. LAME.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:28 p.m. CST

    Where the frak is Helo

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    no way he died, no way

  • March 20, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Where's the Monolith?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST

    ... or we're going to jump ahead

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:29 p.m. CST

    make that will, not with...

    by Gawdfather

    whoops.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:30 p.m. CST

    Quite a sunny day.......

    by wcme

    ....On Board Galactica!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    30 minutes to go....

    by shellfishh

    .....from loincloths to Times Square.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Starbuck's viper? Where's Leoben?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 9:31 p.m. CST

    Man I was hoping they'd saved the budget for

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    FCC fines for naked 8 day

  • March 20, 2009, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Beautiful

    by NudeandAroused

    The last scene was very moving. Great writing and acting.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Fluffyunbound

    by wcme

    What do they do for the final half hour and 11 mins? :)

  • March 20, 2009, 9:32 p.m. CST

    Moulin Galactica

    by millermeusa

    The show should come back next year as a musical "Never knew...i could feel like this........It's like Im a hybrid...."

  • March 20, 2009, 9:33 p.m. CST

    I just saw the series go down the toilet

    by vorlonkosh

    What's with the "returning to nature" crap? Horseshit!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:33 p.m. CST

    A Big Middle Finger

    by TheContrarian

    to all you halfwits who poo-pooed my insistence that the other planet was NOT our earth! Frak off bitches!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:33 p.m. CST

    What does all this have to do with

    by wcme

    Drunk pigeon fighting!!!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:33 p.m. CST

    They run into the ship with the telephone cleaners

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:34 p.m. CST

    It's a shame that Galactica...

    by shellfishh

    won't live,but then....who does?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Fuck, another 30 minutes of flashback

    by vorlonkosh

  • March 20, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Flashbacks for the last 41 minutes?

    by FluffyUnbound

    Maybe Starbuck can cry? Roslin can give her dying speech? Please don't blow the momentum here guys.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    old school bsg music

    by Ron Burgandy

    nice...

  • March 20, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    "The wonder of mathematics"

    by chrth

    Ask Simon how important that is

  • March 20, 2009, 9:35 p.m. CST

    So, this is Dharma?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    Classic Theme!

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    nifty!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    original series music!!!!!

    by tristeele

  • March 20, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    There's the original theme

    by FluffyUnbound

    Happy now

  • March 20, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    the original music!!!!!

    by millermeusa

    Yes!!!!!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    All the extra chemicals in the sun cause advanced

    by chrth

    mutations on Earth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:36 p.m. CST

    What a bunch of mealy-mouth bullshit

    by vorlonkosh

    Back to the stone ages, with some self-important blather. What a way to end it.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST

    And I learned that trick from KIRK

    by wcme

    TMP

  • March 20, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST

    $@%@$@%@$@%@$^STARGATE UNIVERSE^$@%@$@%@$@%@$@%@$

    by dioxholster

    STARGATE UNIVERSE is AwEsOmE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! better than BSG shit!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST

    it ain't over yet vorlonkosh!

    by Ron Burgandy

    ...don't make me regret that Ronnie Moore ;)

  • March 20, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST

    So it goes back to the old series?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST

    First thing Ellen does

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    is make a still, even before Tigh

  • March 20, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST

    I wanna see

    by Ron Burgandy

    a 6 or 8 as a stripper in the flashbacks......

  • March 20, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    That's the only way for the Von Daniken bullshit

    by FluffyUnbound

    from the original to come into play. If life here "began out there", where did the spaceships go? Into the sun. This bunch of people is just dumb enough for that to make sense.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Strippers

    by millermeusa

    Moore should re-imagine Gilligan's Island now

  • March 20, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    All those who predicted that they would go with "we're all cylon

    by Gawdfather

    Yes, they went there. And props for predicting it years ago, as some of you did. Lamelamelame.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    Gotta love a wife that goes to a strip club with you

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    YEEEEAHHHHHHHH!!!! x3

    by wcme

    More drunk pole dancing!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    They get to our Earth and the sun explodes

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    $@%@$@%@$@%@$^STARGATE UNIVERSE^$@%@$@%@$@%@$@%@$

    by dioxholster

    WE WILL WATCH! throw away BSG coz it sucks like that dog that sniffs for drugs and finds BSG shit around.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Ho! Ho! Ho!

    by MisterE

    Galen becomes Santa Clause?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Man, what the frak is up with Wake Forest

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:41 p.m. CST

    Cos

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Ellen needs her lubrification

  • March 20, 2009, 9:41 p.m. CST

    I think Moore is frakking with us

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:41 p.m. CST

    All cylons in the sense that modern day man would...

    by Gawdfather

    ...have cylon DNA mixed with human, etc.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST

    It's really a Cylon Illusion

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST

    12 colonie survivors are

    by LordTwinkie

    actually Golgafrinchans, the answer has always been 42!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Moore just threw Glen A Larsen a HUGE fucking bone...

    by UGABugKiller

    ... there are those here who believe life began out there.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Jump!

    by Marduk

    Not bad. I'll have to watch the replay to get a better handle on it.<p> The thing is, I used to experience this show with my heart in my throat. That really hasn't happened for me since Exodus.<p> That said, I hope they can make something out of Caprica that defies expectations.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:43 p.m. CST

    #$^#$^$%^$%#&%@$^STARGATE UNIVERSE^$#$^#$@$$^#$@#%@%@%

    by dioxholster

    @#%@#%#@#$^@#^#$FUCK BSG@^%@$%@#%#@WATCH@%#w$^%#$@^#6234#$^#@STARGATE%@#%@#@##^#@^#UNIVERSE$#%@#%@^^$#@IT ROCKS$#%^$#@^@#$^HARD#$^#^@^@#$^#@$

  • March 20, 2009, 9:43 p.m. CST

    I thought the leader wasn't supposed to make it

    by FluffyUnbound

    Or is that Moses I'm thinking of?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:43 p.m. CST

    show needs the old Adama closer

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    STILL 30 mins to go

    by wcme

    What is Apollo? Where did she get the ship! Who left the note in adamas room about the cylon models in the mini?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Fluffy: They ditched the prophecy

    by chrth

    Pretty much.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Nothing Wrong...

    by attackpatterndelta

    With .Ron Moore believing the characters deserve some happiness fore there struggle. Something not perfect, but a new begining.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Nothing Wrong...

    by attackpatterndelta

    With .Ron Moore believing the characters deserve some happiness fore there struggle. Something not perfect, but a new begining.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Mary McDonnell

    by moto_moto

    Is hot in the Flashbacks...MILF!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:45 p.m. CST

    bad ending for BSG

    by dioxholster

    worse than sopranos. too bad. BSG that is.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:45 p.m. CST

    Ironic that all the opera house visions...

    by Gawdfather

    ...over the past couple of years took up a hell of a lot more episode time than the actual scene.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:45 p.m. CST

    they will all be killed by primitive cave robots

    by HaterofCrap

    noooooo hellpppp squish stab gore rip tear!!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Re:STILL 30 mins to go

    by moto_moto

    A man. Toy R Us. The Maid.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Adama is not doing

    by Defrost

    what I think he's doing. Is he?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Its just going to end this way isn't it?

    by vorlonkosh

    Shit, what a waste..... Talk about a Seinfeld ending

  • March 20, 2009, 9:48 p.m. CST

    $@%@$@%@$@%@$^STARGATE UNIVERSE^$@%@$@%@$@%@$@

    by dioxholster

    watch it or be square!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Hera is the last survivor

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Kara's a whore-uh

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    Katee Sackhoff Has Girl Germs!

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Last time I'll be saying that.<p> How sad

  • March 20, 2009, 9:49 p.m. CST

    STARBUCK IS ACTUALLY

    by LordTwinkie

    STARBUCK THE WHITE!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:50 p.m. CST

    No shit

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    ZAP

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Everyone had in head Kara

  • March 20, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    saw that coming

    by Ron Burgandy

    SB gone....FTW!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    OMG

    by Dotren

    She's an In-Head!?!?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    return of the king of endings

    by jccalhoun

    This is making the end of the Return of the King film looks short by comparison!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:51 p.m. CST

    Huh

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    The Viper

    by Dotren

    I hope no one flew in that thing because I can't imagine in-head vipers are air-tight.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    Uh, what? That sucked

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 9:52 p.m. CST

    That was a cylon pigeon

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    real pigeons crap before they take off to lighten the load

  • March 20, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Kara an "in head"

    by D_T

    To everyone? So she never returned after she died[?]

  • March 20, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Damn

    by DARKJEDI

    pimp doggy laura

  • March 20, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    HAHAHA. Ooooooh, "symbolism". So sad.

    by Gawdfather

    Kara disappears, the pigeon flies away....howlingly awful.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Cigarettes

    by Defrost

    Those things will kill ya

  • March 20, 2009, 9:54 p.m. CST

    So in head as in

    by wcme

    EVERYONES head? An Angel that can touch, shoot, and jump the ship?!

  • March 20, 2009, 9:54 p.m. CST

    They're signals

    by lockesbrokenleg

    To the past from th future

  • March 20, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST

    All this wildlife to hunt and grill ... it'll be great

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST

    Oh, fucking bullshit.

    by CatVutt

    You can pull a fucking Ghost bullshit ala Cordelia for an episode, but for an entire stretch run of episodes? FUCK YOU.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:56 p.m. CST

    moto_moto

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    you need to put a cigarette out on your pecker, like right now

  • March 20, 2009, 9:56 p.m. CST

    There are many issues

    by Defrost

    that need explanation in the next say ten minutes.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Kara Thrace will lead humanity to its destruction

    by chrth

    Hmmmmm

  • March 20, 2009, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Harbinger of Death

    by Dotren

    So I've been thinking for a while that the whole "you'll lead them to their end" might be the goal they desired and not necessarily mass death.<p>How though is she the Harbinger of Death?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:57 p.m. CST

    And lest we forget...

    by Marduk

    Amanda Tapping is totally hot, eh?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:57 p.m. CST

    Not Sure...

    by attackpatterndelta

    If she was in-head or was just resurrected to help the complete the journey, and like the original Starbuck, gone to that great big ship of lights. If anyone read the original ending for Dirk's Starbuck. Possible nod there.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:57 p.m. CST

    not a ghost; an avatar of God

    by FluffyUnbound

    nm

  • March 20, 2009, 9:58 p.m. CST

    Let's not jump to conclusions

    by chrth

    She could've just ascended. It's happened before, er, later

  • March 20, 2009, 9:58 p.m. CST

    No explanations or resolutions have been

    by vorlonkosh

    satisfying yet by far. Don't expect any more revelations or answers from this dung-heap of an ending.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    another nipple free episode

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    I wasted 6 years of my life

  • March 20, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    chrth

    by Dotren

    Maybe destruction in that that humanity in it's current form will cease to exist due to breeding with Cylons and the natives?<p>Speaking of the Cylons, exactly where are they? I don't think I've seen any of them since they landed.

  • March 20, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Oh come on, Tory and Cavil's resolution was fantastic

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Who met Six on Caprica before the atttack?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    my god the commercials are horrible.

    by Irish Ape

    this poor bastard in the backtaxes commercial looks like someone glued a dead gerbil to his forehead....anyone else seeing this commercial, or is it localized?

  • March 20, 2009, 9:59 p.m. CST

    Series ends with a book closing

    by D.Vader

    BAM!

  • March 20, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    this episode is perfect...

    by UGABugKiller

    ... it is ending the only way it possibly can.<br><br>And for morons saying this is worse than David Chase's or Larry David's epic fuck you to their fans... well... FUCK YOU!!!<br><br>You dumb as shit fucking talkbackers, you'll never get it, and you'll never be worthy of the greatness and peace the ending of this show can bring you if you weren't so fucking cynical.<br><br>Fucking get over yourselves, and enjoy something for once, you fucking morons!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    "The Plan

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    Helo lives!

    by Irish Ape

    awesome

  • March 20, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST

    THERE HE IS!

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    HELO!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Awww, Helo lived

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST

    The Plan?

    by CatVutt

  • March 20, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Fuck technology, lets forage for food.

    by vorlonkosh

    BSG gone hippie.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:02 p.m. CST

    "That's it?" My thoughts exactly, Cap Six.

    by Gawdfather

    Nail on head.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Never figured Laura

    by TheContrarian

    for a hit it and quit it kinda gal.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:03 p.m. CST

    tough luck, vorlonkosh

    by FluffyUnbound

    They set all this up just to piss you off. Comfort yourself with the knowledge that 95% of these people would die in 2 days in a neolithic wilderness with just a suitcase and the clothes on their back.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:03 p.m. CST

    Well . . .

    by RumpleWho

    That was awful.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:03 p.m. CST

    the plan...

    by RaveX

    that might keep me alive for a while longer.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Perfect ending?!!!

    by vorlonkosh

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! WHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! What a pile of shit. This show will have zero rewatchability.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Baltar

    by Ron Burgandy

    ...needs lifts....nice nod to what happened to the original Baltar too lol...still can't see it ending well for them two after all they were responsable for...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Totally unsatisfying

    by BackwardGalaxy

    Totally and completely unsatisfying on every possible level.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Wasn't Roslin married when the Cylons attacked?

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    BSG woodstock

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    So, Hera...

    by CatVutt

    Ended up being completely meaningless...do I have that right?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    wha?????

    by millermeusa

    Gauis is responsible for wiping out 99 percent of humanity and he gets to live on?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Nice...

    by attackpatterndelta

    Moment when Baltar realize how much he actually did learn from his father.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Nice...

    by attackpatterndelta

    Moment when Baltar realize how much he actually did learn from his father.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Tears in my eyes....

    by TheWaqman

    that was beautiful. Lost won't even come close to this.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Aww, I was hoping Adama had propped Roslin up

    by chrth

    or something seriously creepy

  • March 20, 2009, 10:05 p.m. CST

    by MikeTheSpike

    Can we not just got onto #BSG and chat there?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Bingo!

    by shellfishh

  • March 20, 2009, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Ron Moore

    by Dotren

    Ha!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:06 p.m. CST

    ahahahaah

    by RaveX

    ron moore!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Epic.

    by BicNowler

    I'll miss you BSG.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Ron Moore?

    by attackpatterndelta

    Was that him?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:07 p.m. CST

    Baltar has a serious Prince look going on

    by CatVutt

  • March 20, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Lord of the RIngs ending

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    i like it...

    by Ron Burgandy

    that is rather exquisite an ending...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Absolute Garbage

    by vorlonkosh

    Good God... I'm my own Grandpa

  • March 20, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    Stargate Atlantis ended in San Fransisco!

    by dioxholster

    better than this shit! haha! SGA totally had a cooler ending than zoo watch!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:08 p.m. CST

    LOST better not end this way...

    by D.Vader

    Is just what I was ABOUT to say before that epilogue! <p> Seriously, if it ended with Adama on the hill- thumbs down. <p> But that epilogue FUCKING ROCKED.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    WE WILL SURVIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE HENDRIX

    by HaterofCrap

    hendrix is the savior of the mankind/cylon hybrid megarace.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Ron Moore

    by Ron Burgandy

    yes that was he at the news stand....

  • March 20, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    EAT CROW BITCHES

    by nostairway

    that is all.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    You assholes are never satisfied...

    by TheWaqman

  • March 20, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    And it ends with

    by ThrowMeTheIdol

    a product placement for MSNBC.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Angel finale

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    still tops my list.<p> They had a almost no notice to pull that last half season together.<p> This is sitting snugly at #2 though.<p> If I live to dee Losts finale, we'll see...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    FUCK YEAH!

    by D.Vader

    Jimi's "All Along the Watchtower" kicks ass! Awesome end with the robots!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Ron Moore, BSG cast and crew (especially writers)

    by tangcameo

    I owe you one.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Nice Ron Moore cameo...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    reading the magazine.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    oops

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    live to *see...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:09 p.m. CST

    I could watch 10,000 seasons of the In Heads

    by chrth

    "You know it doesn't like that name" <p> Jimi Hendrick, and we are out of here ...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    I could watch 10,000 seasons of the In Heads

    by chrth

    "You know it doesn't like that name" <p> Jimi, and we are out of here ...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Hey Ron Moore...

    by Gawdfather

    ...thanks for the miniseries and the first two seasons. And the second hour (tonight's first hour) of the three hour finale. Otherwise, thanks for nothing. That last hour was an abomination. Screw The Plan and Caprica, I sure as hell won't be watching.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    So was Gaius and 6 God and the Devil?

    by D.Vader

    Was that the inference? Or were they both angels? What was the line Baltar said about God- "You know he doesn't like to be called that."?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    diox

    by Ron Burgandy

    stargate can bite my shiny metal ass...seriously....i'm part Cylon you know...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Seriously, Hendrix for the win

    by D.Vader

  • March 20, 2009, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Meanwhile, the 2 ads are Rocketeer and Terminator

    by chrth

    Et tu, AICN?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Now let's all go smash some robots...

    by tangcameo

    ...before the nuke us to hell. See you at Radio Shack!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    BSG - Prequel for "The Terminator"

    by longtimereaderfirsttimeposter

    Will man every learn?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    B-

    by CatVutt

    That's my grade. The Kara resolution sucked ASS. Ultimately, Hera is pointless and the Caprica/Baltar stuff felt shoehorned in. BUT...Tyrol fucking up the truce was glorious, the no-debate execution right after getting Hera back was the kind of thing that has separated this show from lesser ones, and ultimately finding 'Earth' was where we all knew it was going to end up anyway.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    So

    by Defrost

    What are those two exactly?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    D.Vader: the line was "it doesn't like that name"

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    WOOOO! That's how you end a fucking TV series!!!!

    by zillabeast

    So say we all!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    so what was starbuck after all?

    by Lt. Kaffee

    did i miss that?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    No Lorne Greene voice over?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    does that mean...

    by robamenta

    we have to change the name if this planet to earth2?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Still unclear on some stuff

    by wcme

    As I said - IN HEAD = Angels? What was Kara? She will lead humanity to its end and is the harbinger of destruction? Who left the note in adama's quarters? Karas dad trained her on the "swirly" and the notes for a perfect jump to a new earth?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Plowmen dig my Earth

    by Marduk

    Frakin' hippies.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    ok... I'm gonna need to see this again

    by RaveX

    and by "this", I mean "starting with the miniseries"

  • March 20, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Awesome.

    by jebuslovesyou666

    Thank you. That was great.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Still unclear on some stuff

    by wcme

    As I said - IN HEAD = Angels? What was Kara? She will lead humanity to its end and is the harbinger of destruction? Who left the note in adama's quarters? Karas dad trained her on the "swirly" and the notes for a perfect jump to a new earth?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    by Sal_Bando

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  • March 20, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Great Ending

    by NudeandAroused

    To a great show. It can hold its head high!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Perfection

    by YackBacker

    There's nothing more I could have asked from this finale. It's something that I could watch over and over again. And chrth, dude, you are 100% right about the In Heads! MORE! MORE! MORE!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    LOVED IT Perfect ending

    by megatom5

    Seriously I felt that the last couple of episodes felt kind of anti climaxtic, this puts it all in perspective. This 2 hours cements BSG as the best TV I've ever frakking scene. Period. Oh and we'd better watch out for those japanese robots. Think that's why boomer was Asian?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Baltar is Count Iblis?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Time to put this turd to rest forever

    by vorlonkosh

    Just wipe, flush, forget and move on......

  • March 20, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Ron Moore: I created this series

    by CmdX

    Don't tell me I can't be in the last scene with the english dude and the hot chick

  • March 20, 2009, 10:13 p.m. CST

    I don't think I'll care much for Lost finale....

    by TheWaqman

    not as much as this finale for sure. I stopped caring about those characters. I'm still interested in the show, but I was more invested in BSG. Plus I think the Lost guys are a bunch of fucking wussy bitches. Tom Hanks had to stay alone on an island for 3 years. These wimps are on there for 3-4 months with supplies and hot bitches.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:14 p.m. CST

    1sttimeposter!

    by tangcameo

    If it's a Terminator prequel, then BSG is linked to Terminator like Terminator is linked to The Matrix.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:14 p.m. CST

    1sttimeposter!

    by tangcameo

    If it's a Terminator prequel, then BSG is linked to Terminator like Terminator is linked to The Matrix.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Were the pre-humans BLUE?

    by D.Vader

    Or are my eyes all wrong.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:14 p.m. CST

    "Frakkin' Hippies!"

    by chrth

    AHAHAHAHA

  • March 20, 2009, 10:14 p.m. CST

    Farewell BSG

    by medicinaluser

    At least the season limped to an awsome final.<BR><BR>Could not have asked for more.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST

    One last time with feeling

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    Katee Sackhoff has girl germs.<p> grr-rowl

  • March 20, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST

    did anyone else notice...

    by Lt. Kaffee

    the serious nod to 'alien' music throughout

  • March 20, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST

    WHAT A SHITTY END!

    by RickyDMontoya

    Holy Crap BSG went out with a turd. Worst 2 hours of television in recent memory to cap off the worst season of a great show. If I ever watch this show again, I will stop at the end of the third season.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST

    vorlonkosh would you kindly...piss off

    by TheWaqman

  • March 20, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Gawdfather, that's dumb

    by FluffyUnbound

    After 33 the Iraqtica episodes are the best of the show, and those are season 3 episodes.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST

    Flashback to Adama / Tigh Kiss

    by likelightning3

    ... was pretty unexpected. But definitely not supposed to be gay, right?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST

    nice ending

    by RaveX

    means there's a chance that tigh is my ancestor. <p> would explain my alcoholism as genetically-determined...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST

    TV's going to suck after this

    by tangcameo

    Even the last season of Lost is going to be tainted for me, especially now that it's obvious it's just one big predestination paradox. Time to give up TV I think.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST

    "Alien" score bits

    by Joe Mannix Jr.

    So did anyone notice bits of the "Alien" score? Two people I know of thought it pretty obvious.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST

    You could almost smell a sequel

    by xyvortex

    I mean, with the Cylons still out there. Caprica sounds interesting but it's just this side of a straight TV drama... Why bother putting it on the Sci-Fi... excuse me.. the SyFy channel (how gay)

  • March 20, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST

    "It doesn't like that name"

    by D.Vader

    You mean God? That's what I missed- Did 6 refer to it as God, and that was Baltar's response? Or did she say something else?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST

    FUCKING AYE!!!!

    by samuraiwahoo

    Greatest show ever. Haters can eat a dick. SO SAY WE ALL!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Just like I said

    by Kenny_Fuckin_Powers

    it's not going to need to explain everything. Part of this show has always been about ambiguity. And yes, it's science fiction that deals with the fact that a lot of existence is fuckin answerable. So fuck you say we all, fuckin haters.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:17 p.m. CST

    They even saved the best 'R&D TV' for last, chrth...

    by Pennsy

    Epic. Sensational. And the Emmys will stay away from honoring this show as far as they can because they're turds of the lowest order. Nice homage to the original series music when Anders sent every ship into the sun. I am in awe. Mother-frakkin' awe at that.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST

    by Cigar2

    A Great Ending!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:18 p.m. CST

    Fluffy, the S3 Iraq crap was a cop out...

    by Gawdfather

    ...and put the show on the glide path to the craptastic season 4 we had to endure. They literally lost the plot with that shit.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:19 p.m. CST

    When Baltar started crying bc he knows about farming...

    by D.Vader

    I thought that was a great moment. I dunno what the last Tigh/Ellen flashback added though. Or the last Roslyn flashback. But hey, I'm not a diehard fan of the show. Like I said, the epilogue made up for it.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Hera

    by RumpleWho

    Hera dies as a child with her parents? That's fucking swell. And give me a break, there is no way these people would not have used their tech to build a city. Awful, a complete wast of my time.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Brilliant

    by Geekgasm

    Best series finale of any show I have personally followed and watched regularly. Every chord struck, every note perfectly played. Gods bless them, they didn't frak it up.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Hera

    by xyvortex

    They never said she died as a child.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Look fuckin Ron Moore

    by Kenny_Fuckin_Powers

    I know in my head that The Wire is a better tv show on some sort of quantitative level, but my fuckin balls and my fuckin crybaby ass tell me that Battlestar Galactica is my fuckin favorite show of all time.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Coulda lived without that epilogue

    by Larry of Arabia

    It's been done about a million times before in all sorts of pseudo-deep sci-fi.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Lost has an awful high bar to clear in its finale...

    by Pennsy

    Yeah, I said it.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST

    TheWaqman and all you "its about the characters"

    by vorlonkosh

    idiots can keep your show. You know that you'll forget all about in 5 years. Who would want to reinvest any more time in watching it again, knowing that the ending is the worst sort of mindless dribble imaginable. I want nothing more of it.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:21 p.m. CST

    BSG ending worst of all time!

    by dioxholster

    man feel sorry for the BSG fans. oh well at least ou guys have STARGATE UNIVERSE to look forward to.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Joe Mannix

    by Lt. Kaffee

    Look for my post a few comments up! I totally agree on the "Alien" bits. Thanks for confirming.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    I could have done without..

    by XoanonTORN

    ..the 'angels' speech at the end, but I did like the 'that's not what it likes to be called' line. I just would have thought it would have been cooler to jump to the present, show the news reports or something, and then pan to the TV with a buildup to Jimmi...dunno..just me.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Or another shit Joss Whedon series

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 20, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Amazing finale. Amazing series. Bravo, RDM.

    by AshokZero

    Wow... just, wow. Tonight marks the end of a GREAT series. And next year, when Lost S6 ends... we'll have reached the end of an era.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    So beautiful

    by Zeegloo

    Perhaps one of the most fulfilled I have felt since I finished the Harry Potter series. What a stellar piece of work.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:22 p.m. CST

    Battlestargate Universe...

    by Bill Clay

    ...Damn, those commercials made SGU look like a cheap BSG ripoff.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:23 p.m. CST

    frakking beautiful

    by Out of your element

    Amazing ending to an amazing show. Awesome battle followed by a bittersweet wind down. I loved every bit of it and I'm glad that it was an upbeat ending. Ron Moore has done us proud.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:23 p.m. CST

    xyvortex

    by D_T

    The remains in the newspapers sure looked like those of a child.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:23 p.m. CST

    By a piece of popular fiction that is

    by Zeegloo

    And I dont know when any equal will come into being.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Just wondering ...

    by SkidMarkedUndies

  • March 20, 2009, 10:23 p.m. CST

    oh and did anyone notice?

    by XoanonTORN

    Anyone notice at the very end of the slo mo walk where you see the back of 6's head? Look to her left and you can see some Indian dude checking out her rack as he passes by! Classic!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:24 p.m. CST

    BSG has ruined me for all television and movies

    by samuraiwahoo

    SO SAY WE ALL!!! Well.... until The Expendables comes out.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:24 p.m. CST

    OK, Vorlonkosh, stop posting...

    by AceHoly

    ...we get you didn't like it. Having said your piece, how about exiting stage left? I won't call you an idiot for not liking the show, but I imagine the greater majority will, as I did, thoroughly enjoy this episode. Now we know why they showed Baltar's In-Head physically lifting him up - to set the stage for Kara being a PHYSICAL IN-HEAD that everyone could see! Nice.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:24 p.m. CST

    ATTENTION JJ ABRAMS!!!!

    by J-Dizzle

    Take note, that's how you end a series. You've got your template, now improve on it.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Re-watch Baltar's CIC speech to Cavil

    by longtimereaderfirsttimeposter

    I think that's the best explanation we'll get for Starbuck and in heads. God exists, doesn't take sides, and is a mysterious force of a nature. The need to take a leap of faith that there is some higher power guiding things. The scientist finally realizes he can't explain everything. Probably will upset the atheist crowd. Still, Hera ends up being a McGuffin for the big battle. She already served her purpose, proving cylons and humans could interbreed.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Just wondering ...

    by SkidMarkedUndies

    Sorry, damn enter key. Do you think that they came up with the premise of the show's ending based on "All Along the Watchtower?" Just find it ironic that most of the lyrics to the song basically describe what happened to all of them over the past 4 seasons. Food for thought.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Now I can get rid of cable

    by samuraiwahoo

  • March 20, 2009, 10:25 p.m. CST

    It'd be tough to be mitochondrial eve

    by chrth

    if you don't have any children. She must've taken a homo erectus(?) husband

  • March 20, 2009, 10:26 p.m. CST

    XoanonTORN

    by D_T

    Hahaha, we did too - I'm sure the set direction was "everyone ignore our two actors" followed later by "we don't have time for a reshoot, tell the indian guy he's not getting paid!!"

  • March 20, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Fucking Brilliant in every way! The show is redeemed!

    by bullet3

    Absolutely perfect in every way possible. Anyone complaining about this finale is an asshole.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    the music

    by arcath

    I actually heard cues from Star Trek Generations when romo was counting everyone walking in the field with Tigh/Ellen bringing up the rear. dunno.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    SkidMarkedUndies

    by Marduk

    Well, yeah. Duh.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    This isn't the last episode...

    by Gojira_X

    it will all happen again.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    the cycle of violence WAS broken...

    by UGABugKiller

    ... think about it on a deeper level you fucking morons who can't appreciate the awesomeness that was Galactica<br><br>Think about it!<br><br>It took the 13th Colony on the "original" Earth only 1000 years to destroy themselves.<br><br>It took the Colonies 2000 years (plus the extra thousand they stayed on Kobol after the 13th left) to destroy themselves (obliquely speaking, by creating the Cylons and treating them as slaves, not equals, they sealed their fate).<br><br>By giving up everything, by abandoning technology and weapons, and everything, the Colonials and Cylons, and their human forebearers have lasted 150,000 years!!!<br><br>The cycle may not be permanently broken, but it lasted much, much longer.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    And this is what happens when

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    you haven't mapped out your objectives.<p> Or you start letting your characters write the stories<p> Or in some instances (i think) you let the actors start dictating to you. (so say we all guy) (he must have really shot a wad at the un)<p> It was fantastic right up until Calvil blew his brains out<br> After that it was like having to cuddle with a chick that you fucked but don't really know or like that much.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Typical apologists...

    by vorlonkosh

    Can't take the criticism, so tell the dissenters to shut up. Ask yourself, would you be so defensive if deep down you didn't also realize this ending failed to meet expectations.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Fuck all you haters

    by darthkat76

    It was fucking awesome!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Sad joke. Us "haters" who blasted last weeks show...

    by Gawdfather

    ...turned out to be completely justified in our criticism of the useless flashbacks. All the political bickering on the show over the years, and Lee Adama decides, "let's ditch the tech and live off the land." No dissent? No discussion or debate? So incredibly stupid, and unearned from previous series norms and behavior.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:27 p.m. CST

    That episode kicked my ass...

    by p5mmr9

    i'm going to crawl in a hole for a while now. wow...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Frak the haters!

    by TheContrarian

    Satisfying ending for me. However, I would have had some ships from the fleet settling on different habitable planets (essentially seeding nearby star systems). Maybe the birth of a new 12 colonies. I would have liked to have seen the 'in-heads' talking to their boss.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:28 p.m. CST

    Hera was the key because ...

    by chrth

    Athena + Helo was compatible. Hera + Homo Erectus was compatible. If Hera is unable to breed with Homo Erectus (or whatever the stage was), then the Cylons and Colonists do not survive (genetically) into modern times.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Boy its fun reading reactions as you posted them

    by D.Vader

    In regards to the gunfight in the CIC after the truce: "Well that went well. <p>"Or not."

  • March 20, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Brilliant! Best Show in the History of TV!

    by fedrich519

    The Opera House. Seeding the planet with human life and civilization... for the FOURTH time! Mind Fuck!! WOW!! Kara was an In-Head for everyone! Hera the Mother Gaia of all human history! WOW! Its gonna take me days to soak all that in! WOW!!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Battlestar Galactica featuring Les Stroud

    by Yoda's Ball Sack

    So they all went survivorman in the end? Nice. So say we all.............................

  • March 20, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST

    STARGATE UNIVERSE is the COOLEST!

    by dioxholster

    u wait and see. BSG will turn to dust when stargate makes its way over to ur stupid heads.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Galactica = Golgafrincham B ark?

    by Gorehog

    "I was told that a robot holocaust was coming."

  • March 20, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    So is baltar Jesus or God?

    by addyadam

    I am not sure what that meant. From what I saw Baltar is immortal same with six. Where they god and the devil. Was Baltar gods son? Im a bit confused about that last ending scene. Any help?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    J-Dizzle

    by flickchick85

    I think you should really be addressing Damon Lindelof here. J.J. Abrams abandoned Lost a long time ago, and definitely shouldn't be getting the credit for anything great that show has done for the last, oh, 3 seasons. <p> That said, I agree - if Lost's finale is half this satisfying, I'll be pretty happy.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:31 p.m. CST

    What else is there to say...

    by Speedstream

    so say we all...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Remember that they had survival experience on New Caprica

    by chrth

    It's funny because I'm reading a book "The World Without Us" and they touch on a bunch of the ideas here.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:32 p.m. CST

    longtimereaderfirsttimeposter

    by attackpatterndelta

    Agreed! Good post, man.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:32 p.m. CST

    I have to admit that was massively awesome

    by MurderMostFowl

    Now I have to clean up all this jizz all over the floor

  • March 20, 2009, 10:32 p.m. CST

    addyadam

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    I got the impression they were angels or whatever analogy / label you want to apply

  • March 20, 2009, 10:32 p.m. CST

    or wait?

    by addyadam

    They were angles at the end?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:32 p.m. CST

    wow... ok, alright, yeah, but...

    by altoandando

    I'm trying to tie it all together. so battlestar galactica: for many years, a group of mostly white people and robots fly around space drinking a lot of alcohol – sometimes, they vomit; they also like to box and they play bagpipes when somebody croaks. at one point, they decide to land in Africa with a creepy young girl-thing who goes on to make love with many apes; the end...? wait did I miss something?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:33 p.m. CST

    that makes sence

    by addyadam

    that makes sence now, thanks!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Cavil had to die

    by lockesbrokenleg

    to break the cycle.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Starbuck = Jesus

    by UGABugKiller

    Think about it!!!<br><br>She wasn't an angel, like IH Balter and IH Six.<br><br>But she was obviously half-human, half-divine.<br><br>She had a loving father and knew of pain and experienced more pain and suffering than any normal human should.<br><br>She died, and she was resurrected through the power of God.<br><br>She came back, and was tangible, and could be seen and felt, hugged and kissed.<br><br>When it was time for her to go, her journey complete, her flock safe, she ascended into heaven to be with God and her loved ones in the afterlife.<br><br>Starbuck is Jesus!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Hmmm...don't know what to think

    by superfleish76

    It wasn't horrible, but I really wanted a finale that proved that they really didn't lose their way the last few seasons. I don't think that we necessarily got that.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:34 p.m. CST

    addyadam

    by WickedJacob

    the two beings that manifested as in-head baltar and six were some kind of servants of god, but weren't actually baltar and six. thats just how the real baltar and six had perceived them.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:35 p.m. CST

    Man.....

    by symon

    I feel like I just finished watching Touched by an Angel. 'Give up your technology, get back in touch with nature and trust God." That's what this show has been about this whole time? I guess I didn't understand it before, because I thought it wasn't pretentious horseshit until this episode...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:35 p.m. CST

    "Hera was meaningless" WTF??!!

    by Bill Clay

    Are you missing something? Hera was the mother of all humanity! The final news story was the anthropological discovery of who we call 'Eve', the original ancestor we all can be traced back to. IOW, we are all descended from a Cylon-Human hybrid.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:35 p.m. CST

    by MikeTheSpike

    Flashback Laura sure likes telling people to let themselves out of her house. Also, Kara was the pigeon! *NOW* I get it!!!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:36 p.m. CST

    Poor Hera

    by AbsoluteTruth

    Wow.....her life blows.....then she finally gets to Earth and gets to be with her parents with no problems and then BOOM she dies young and is discovered as a little girl skeleton in the future. lol. ouch.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:36 p.m. CST

    ok, i was late.

    by WickedJacob

    thats what i get for getting a snack before i typed a response

  • March 20, 2009, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Hera doesn't die young

    by chrth

    She had children people!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Bill Clay

    by symon

    But there were already humans on Earth - and what stopped the Galactica crew from procreating? That was a bullshit throw away at the end to try to make it seem like Hera mattered.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:37 p.m. CST

    InHead 6 & Baltar are the "two riders" who "were approaching"

    by D.Vader

  • March 20, 2009, 10:37 p.m. CST

    Hairy N., I'll be watching the rebroadcast...

    by NoHubris

    ...too. Looking forward to your final BSG posts in this final TB.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Maybe Hera was the only one genetically compatible

    by WickedJacob

  • March 20, 2009, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Problem?

    by Mandamas

    If Hera dies as as a little girl, as evidenced by the little girl skeleton, how did she reproduce at all?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:38 p.m. CST

    I have just witnessed perfection!

    by tristan488

    Please all you haters, hate all you want, wine and gripe and moan and berate and spew bile and call shenanigans and be miserable. Exercise your free speech rights all ya want, and say how the series should have done this or that or gone this way or that way. Ya know why? Cause I could care less. All I care about it what I just witnessed, and I have just witnessed perfection. I could not have asked for a better finish. It was so, SO true to everything galactica. Characters came first. Action, while amazing, served the characters, not vice versa. And whether or not you adrenaline junkies what to admit it or not, this show has always had a spiritual/metaphysical aspect to it, which is just as vitally important to the fabric of the show as the action/characters. There's always been something slightly mysterious about the show, not everything resolved nice and tidy, wrapped all pretty with a bow on top. And the finale was absolutely true to that. What a beautiful finish. I am so happy that these people finally found some rest and happiness. Words don't do this finale or this show justice. What a genuine treasure this show has been. By the way, ya know that rumor about the final scene that came out a while back. Well, somebody opened their frakking mouth!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:38 p.m. CST

    You will be left to decide for yourselves

    by BrandLoyalist

    I *knew* it was VALIS

  • March 20, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST

    it seems like

    by altoandando

    people are forgetting that the point of the last five years was to get the girl to have apesex. alcohol and strip bars were also involved.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST

    "What stopped the Galactica crew from procreating"

    by chrth

    It's possible that only a human/cylon hybrid had the right genetic composition to procreate with the hoo-man ancestors.<p> Of course, the article is complete bullshit because you can never "find" mitochrondial eve.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST

    and they were preverbal

    by WickedJacob

    maybe Hera's genes were needed to make the final evolutionary jump to modern humans.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST

    yes, they were angels...

    by MurderMostFowl

    They're saying that all this time, they have not been projections, but true angels not bound by space and time... I suppose we are to believe that Starbuck is one of them too. <BR> It actually is an interesting pre-christian ancient greek view of angels/minor deities, which we've sort of been following in the Galactica mythos anyway. <BR><BR> The RDM cameo at the end was a cute touch too

  • March 20, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST

    dying leaders and harbinger of doom

    by discomatic

    Didn't both dying leaders, the Galactica and Roslin, complete the journey? And how was Starbuck a harbinger of doom or death or whatever?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Did the in-heads actually accomplish anything?

    by commiepinko

  • March 20, 2009, 10:39 p.m. CST

    Yes, Starbuck was in head to everyone, but

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    she could also effect the world around her. The physical world.<p> And when she wasn't needed anymore *poof*

  • March 20, 2009, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Hera

    by mike allegretto

    Even though it's been 150,000 years hera has yet to fulfill her mission and purpose....

  • March 20, 2009, 10:40 p.m. CST

    also

    by altoandando

    the little skeleton was the offspring of Hera and the monkeyman

  • March 20, 2009, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Kinda ballsy to show religion was real

    by D.Vader

    If you think about it. Not saying religion is right, but that there IS a Force in this Universe. I can dig that.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST

    So in that respect

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    she was diferent that the 6 and Baltar in heads

  • March 20, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST

    BATTLESTAR 700 CLUB

    by I am not a number

    Crap ending with all the religious nonsense needed to explain stuff. Ditching all of the technology with no dissent whatsoever? Bull! Glad I didn't invest a lot of time in this show.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST

    It wasn't the best or the worst

    by Larry of Arabia

    It was good, but it fell into an old sci-fi cliche. "Humans have a chance to start over but will mess up the same way... unless the viewers realize that OMG it's our present day timeline!" If you don't know that it is a sci-fi staple you need to read a lot more. Points for delivery, none for originality.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:41 p.m. CST

    "Did the in-heads actually accomplish anything?"

    by chrth

    Oh frak yeah. They made every single scene they were in ten million times better.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    All will be explained...

    by Marduk

    In the exciting new Sci-Fi series Caprica.<p> It may not suck, but I'm fairly certain it's going to be low-risk venture.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    chrth... they didn't stop reproducing

    by MurderMostFowl

    it's just that on a biological scale, Hera's decendants came to dominate the population. Perhaps she has a superior immune system, whate have you. All they're saying is that every surviving genertic line eventually mated with the line of Hera. <BR> Also remember that Helo and athena (and all the other cylon+human groups ) could just keep trying to mate anyway... who knows maybe they procude more children. Obviously they impled that genetic variation of humans comes from where the colonies landed as well

  • March 20, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    it's interesting to note to that

    by altoandando

    the very last second of BSG was the big shiny back of a bald guy's head.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Hera could have had kids

    by D.Vader

    It said young woman, did it not? What, you think she'd stay abstinent without birth control back then with teenage hormones raging?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    who did leave the note

    by tristeele

    about the cylon models in adamas quarters?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    how do we know for sure that skeleton was hera?

    by mike allegretto

    hmmmm?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Ok, Starbuck was In-Head

    by chrth

    But what about her viper?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Kara Starbuck is the same as Christian Shepherd on LOST

    by D.Vader

    Except Christian knows what he is.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:43 p.m. CST

    waste

    by zeroscum

    So Hera meant nothing then right? I don't get it. How did she hold the key to anything? Members of the fleet weren't infertile. And what were the in-head balter and 6? we still don't know how they were 'in head' at all..... And why did Roslin have visions?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    The one who couldn't be named

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Is the Cylon God.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Kara was not an In-Head

    by D.Vader

    She was a manifestation made real to complete the task. Like Gandalf or Christian Shepherd.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    MurderMostFowl: True

    by chrth

    although slight correction: every single line mated with a female descandant of Hera's line.<p> But you could never actually 'find' mitochondrial eve.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Kara was still the harbringer of death

    by bullet3

    Remember, cavil's cyclon's never acquired resurrection technology. So they'll all die out within 50 or so years. Kara was the harbringer of death for the cyclons and brought humanity to its end (Earth).

  • March 20, 2009, 10:45 p.m. CST

    the news report does say "Young woman"

    by WickedJacob

    but I'm looking at a freeze frame of the skeleton. I'm not an expert, but I'm not seeing anything that screams pre-adolescent. "young woman" is a vague term and the kind of shoddy reporting I'd expect from msnbc, so its realistic that way.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:45 p.m. CST

    OK yeah they had some funny scenes...

    by commiepinko

    ...but what did in-head six help Baltar do that really effected the outcome.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Baltar's vision on Kobol

    by lockesbrokenleg

    He saw Adama kill Hera. He was right

  • March 20, 2009, 10:45 p.m. CST

    But what about the Cylons? Their cycle of violence?

    by D.Vader

    Did the Centurions eventually go back and destroy the other cylon colony?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:46 p.m. CST

    tristeele: I always presumed it was Baltar

    by chrth

    But heck, it could've been In-Head Six.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:46 p.m. CST

    starbuck as jesus

    by blrp

    expert40: Interesting theory, especially since Anders told her he would see her on the other side before she left. *But* how did Starbuck die for the Colonial's sins or for any redemption of those left? (That's kind of Jesus's whole deal) Also Jesus was a rabbi/teacher, so I vote Roslin for the savior.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:46 p.m. CST

    yes it was a YOUNG WOMAN

    by altoandando

    it's the monkeyesque toaster baby chick that dropped out of Hera after she got boned by apemen... are we clear?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:46 p.m. CST

    "But there were already humans on Earth"...

    by Bill Clay

    Just because humans were already here, it doesn't mean that their blood lines didn't eventually die out. According to the news story at the end, Hera was the only one to have a line of offspring that thrived and ended up populating the Earth.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    Hera WAS the key...

    by D.Vader

    Until human (and Cylon) frailty screwed things up for everlasting peace. <p> HOWEVER, that very short peace is what led to Tyrol going nuts, which is what led to the shootout, which is what led to Starbuck entering the coordinates for Earth. <p> It was all part of the plan. Which is what we'll be saying on LOST too.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    Not Sure It's Ballsy....

    by symon

    To say God is real in a country where 90 some percent of people already agree with that. In science fiction, though, maybe it kind of is. I would like to believe I would have liked it, even with the God stuff, had it been done better. But as such a big fan up to this point, this was painful.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    BSG Sitcom: The Frakkin' In-Heads

    by DreamSeasonBobby

    Where they are all bobble-heads and...hah, made ya look.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    commiepinko: pulled Baltar's ass out of the fire

    by chrth

    a couple times. Put it in a couple times, true, but also out.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:47 p.m. CST

    My favorite moment... The Chief realizing that bitch killed Cal

    by MurderMostFowl

    Oh fuck that was awesome. I had thought that was the biggest travesty of the show that Tory was going to get away with Murder. OH SNAP!<BR><BR> Oh and the fucking awesome Raptors jumping within the Landing Bay, that was on par with the atmospheric jump in from way back.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:48 p.m. CST

    zeroscum, Hera was very important

    by lock67ca

    She was the mother of modern civilization on Earth. That was made pretty clear

  • March 20, 2009, 10:48 p.m. CST

    lemme see if I get this right

    by Alphi1

    Starbuck was an "angel" of god, and when her mission was complete, she vanished (since the real Kara Thrace was dead anyway - of course, if that's the case how'd her body get to first-Earth? Didn't we see her ship explode in space?). Never mind that there's no explanation of her being the "harbinger of death" or anything. Hera apparently died as a "young" woman but presumably old enough to bear at least one child after mating with one of the primitives, and that child was the ancestor of all of current civilization. The Six and Baltar at the end aren't the Six and Baltar that were on Galactica, but rather were the "angels" that the live Six and Baltar had been seeing all season. Does that sound about right?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:48 p.m. CST

    the whole series

    by lockesbrokenleg

    was Starbuck VS The Baltar and six

  • March 20, 2009, 10:48 p.m. CST

    The Hybrid that told Starbuck she would lead humnity to it's DOO

    by zillabeast

    Was obviously fucking WRONG! Lol.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:49 p.m. CST

    thanks for 3.5 great seasons Ron Moore/cast/crew, but...

    by abandonedstation

    This finale was awfully cliched and wasn't particularly interesting or revealing. (I pretty much signed up onto aintitcool to say this) Then again, these last ten episodes save the mutiny two-parter were awful. I'm going to pretend that the series ended when the humans and Cylons landed on the nuked earth. Much gritter and closer to the overall feeling of the first three seasons.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    SO...Baltar is IMMORTAL?

    by bma2192

    ...cause he's NOT a cylon, right? still-- wish I could know more than I got to learn with the wind-down... lots left to OUR imagination instead of writing it into the episode... Kara just disappears? She's angelic? They just up and decide to dump all their ships into the SUN? REALLY? no plan B? No need to use what they have to help them survive? They decide to WALK? The purpose was for humanity to SURVIVE, right? --so they purposely make it as HARD as possible once they make it to their (our) new earth? --I realize it was easier to fit it into our past like that so that it would lead into our history on present day earth... but it would have been COOLER to have that stuff around for possible discovery later... STILL, totally dug the series-- great work to all. Obviously we all LOVE it since it matters enough to bring about debate on so many levels:)

  • March 20, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    AND LET'S HEAR IT FOR THE CENTURIONS!!!!

    by J-Dizzle

    Those toasters fucked shit up! Loved the "on me muthafucka" signal to Apollo.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Hahahaha....Cavil said, "FRAK!"

    by zillabeast

    Top 5 death scene's ever!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    RumpleWho

    by berserkrl

    No, Hera doesn't die as a child, since she's the ANCESTOR OF ALL LIVING HUMANS.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST

    the last comment

    by mike allegretto

    There comment that "it doesn't like to be called that" seems awfully sinister to me. Maybe all along the cylon god was in fact Satan?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Actually, evolutionarily speaking ...

    by chrth

    humanity was led to its doom by the arrival of Kara Thrace

  • March 20, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST

    mother of modern civilization on Earth

    by zeroscum

    But anyone could have been the mother of civilization on earth. Any woman. Why hera? If she got eaten by a Lion after they landed on Earth, 150,000 years later people would still be here. So why was she important?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:53 p.m. CST

    hera's importance

    by mike allegretto

    her purpose was to write down the jump co-ordinates for our earth in music note form.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:53 p.m. CST

    re: Starbuck = Jesus...

    by UGABugKiller

    ... not the same exact situation.<br><br>Jesus, the way I believe in Jesus and Christians do, is the divine man who came from God to deliver us from sin, which was what was destroying us.<br><br>Unfortunately, many listen to the message and interpret it to fit their means.<br><br>Meaning, if we REALLY believe in Jesus, we wouldn't kill, we would love. We wouldn't hate, we would love. We wouldn't covet, we would love. The Beatitudes did away with "eye for an eye" and even the Ten Commandments. If we love all others as we love ourselves and love God, we would never steal, covet, kill, any of that.<br><br>Okay, back to Starbuck. <br><br>She delivered the Colonists and Cylons to their salvation, like Jesus has done for those who believe in Him.<br><br>She was half-human and half-divine, as Jesus is.<br><br>She suffered as no human being should, as Jesus did.<br><br>She was resurrected by the power of God, as Jesus was.<br><br>And when it was time, when she delivered her people from death, she ascended into heaven, body and spirit, just as Jesus did.<br><br>Starbuck = Jesus.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:53 p.m. CST

    This show is not saying there's a god at all

    by Kenny_Fuckin_Powers

    it's saying that there's a lot of shit out there in the universe that can't be explained. there are no answers, only struggles to attempt to comprehend what happened.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Great Series

    by Adelai Niska

    Congrats to the crew/cast for a great 4 seasons of television

  • March 20, 2009, 10:53 p.m. CST

    Seriously, though, this was television perfection.

    by DreamSeasonBobby

    This was a perfect bookend to the whole series and the creators over at Lost have their work cut out for them if they want to tie for 1st place. Some excellent speeches about the nature of mankind and whatever the final budget for the finale was, it's up on the screen. Easily in the top .1% of all quality television genre episodics ever made. Ron Moore should just write finales to everybody else's series from this point on. It takes a minute to appreciate how everything ties back together to previous foreshadowing and dream sequences, etc. but otherwise, like I said, this was as close to narrative perfection as television gets. I feel sorry for Joss & Dollhouse, though, Fox's scheduling department fell asleep at the switch tonight.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:54 p.m. CST

    zeroscum: well, maybe the genetics of cylons

    by chrth

    and colonists helped humanity survive those 150,000 years? Maybe they brought along some trait or immunity that made the difference?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Ron, Douglas Adams' ghost called and said he wants his ending ba

    by SpyGuy

    Cylons are the new Golgafrinchans? FAIL.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:54 p.m. CST

    I didn't want to do this, but this is what it means

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    everything after Cavil shot himself is a fantasy from different perspectives from different characters.<p> They are in a perpetual state of freefall into the naked singularity.<p> Due to time dilation, they will never actually enter the singularity and due to the fact it doesn't have an external event horizon they will never be destroyed.<p> So they're all locked in a moment, reliving, fantasizing something better than their miserable existences.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Although the Racetrack Nuking was way out of left field.....

    by zillabeast

    Way fucking cool.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:55 p.m. CST

    also remember

    by altoandando

    the legendary mansize of Jimi Hendrix and the effect that obviously had on young Hera. you know, musically.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:56 p.m. CST

    So who wants to see a miniseries explaining the 5?

    by D.Vader

    Maybe we can actually be shown, instead of TOLD, their story? About the Cylon scientists who worked on Resurrection Technology, saw their planet destroyed (by who, Centurions?!) then traveled light years to warn the other HUMAN colonies about the Centurions, only to find the First Cylon War raging... <p> So they offer Resurrection Tech and Skinjob tech in exchange for a halt to the war... and then we see Cavil screw things up... and then that gives us "The Plan". <p> Or maybe all that WILL be in the beginning of the new movie...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Of course this is the same ending as HHGTTG

    by MurderMostFowl

    The books, not the horrible movie. As Gorehog and LordTwinkie pointed out... The colonists arrive and wipe out the indigenous primates despite Arthur teaching them how to play scrabble. :) <BR> "The human race is descended from those cretins over there!"

  • March 20, 2009, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Melvin_Pelvis

    by zeroscum

    I like that ending much better than the one we got...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Sucked Balls

    by Mr.LordBronco

    Still better than most shite on the telly-and the dimbass president died so that was cool, however- That finale made me glad I blew the whole series off this season. I would rank it as better than the sopranos finale. -mlb

  • March 20, 2009, 10:57 p.m. CST

    HOLY FUCK

    by picardsucks

    I am fucking drained!!!!!!!!! So many moments. FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:57 p.m. CST

    AbsoluteTruth

    by berserkrl

    Like I said to RumpleWho above: No, Hera doesn't die as a child, since she's the ANCESTOR OF ALL LIVING HUMANS.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:57 p.m. CST

    Im gonna need Wikipedia to explain some shit to me

    by D.Vader

    I still dont understand the history of the 12 colonies, Kobol, First Earth, and Skinjob/Centurion repeating cycles...

  • March 20, 2009, 10:57 p.m. CST

    If they were falling into the singularity ...

    by chrth

    how come they didn't run into Zefram Cochrane's ship?

  • March 20, 2009, 10:58 p.m. CST

    think I may be a minority here...

    by blckmgk13

    ...but as I loved the series, I thought the finally was just okay. Bill and Laura were handled wonderfully, but shame she couldn't enjoy a little bit more time, tyrol gets shafted, lee gets shafted, and that's basically it. It had to end, and for that I applaud the fact they gave a conclusion, but I thought it was just okay.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:58 p.m. CST

    In Head Six and In Head Baltar

    by lockesbrokenleg

    were the ones at the end. Not Caprica Six and Baltar

  • March 20, 2009, 10:59 p.m. CST

    R.I.P. Boomer, Cavil, & Tory

    by Greenlee

    see you on the other side.

  • March 20, 2009, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Chrth

    by NoHubris

    Just returning and wanted to respond to your earlier post regarding Merrick.<p>I get your point, but no one said it had to be an issue of promoting any one group at the exclusion or expense of another, trading places or even taking turns to be the Big Cheese based on Census data. It's supposed to be about including every part of the human race in the best of the human experience. Merrick just seemed to be saying that was excluded from his perspective and I saw nothing wrong with his position.<p>Clearly, I'm a big fan of the show so it wasn't an issue with me - for what it's worth.<p>Now to the regularly scheduled re-broadcast!

  • March 20, 2009, 10:59 p.m. CST

    "Daybreak" vs. "All Good Things"

    by zillabeast

    Time will tell. TNG finale is near and dear to me heart. I'm content letting them share 1st.

  • March 20, 2009, 11 p.m. CST

    Watchtower song difference has meaning too

    by MurderMostFowl

    We got the Hendrix version at the end... The dylan version is from the "real eatehr", while our world has the Hendrix version ...a clever nod to "all of this has happened before and will happen again"

  • March 20, 2009, 11 p.m. CST

    D.Vader

    by berserkrl

    "Hera could have had kids" -- COULD have?? The show said she definitely DID -- namely all of out ancestors. That's what "Mitochondrial Eve" means (Google it).

  • March 20, 2009, 11 p.m. CST

    "God works in mysterious ways," guys

    by D.Vader

    Get over it!

  • March 20, 2009, 11:01 p.m. CST

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh jeah!!!! Baltar was...

    by wacko3205

    THE CYLON GAAAAAWD-UH!!!! Wow. That was probably the most intense & smACKtack-ular 2 hours on the tube that I've been sucked into in years. I mean...I'ma huge fan of the show...but that...that was just loverly. Me & the fie-ance had a Galactica Dinner Party of sorts to celebrate the end...& truthfully...they could'nt have hammered the lid on this one shut any other way. I was thrilled shatless. So...I have'nt read everyone's theories...beause I am sure that there were alot...but am I the only human that felt like Baltar was indeed THE CYLON (or a higher powered Cylon of sorts) & was actually a guiding force in the battle of human/cylonish cultivation through the will of God...himself? No? Yes? Well...whatever...but something was up with him. He was indeed something more than the sum of his parts. The whole pigeon/Lee/Kara thing was a bit weird...but it kinda nailed shut the thing for me that Kara was indeed a "being of light/angel" of sorts. You know...this thing replays in about another 5 or 10 minutes...so maybe watching it off the bottle & all by me lonesome...might make for a bit more...logical thinking. Either way...I'm proud to say that I was/am/will be a fan of the show. It was a B-E-A-U-Tiful way to bring the bang for our bucks. Totally 100% down with Cavill shooting himself & can't wait to see if the Centurions come back to make it "all happen again...again...again...agian."

  • March 20, 2009, 11:01 p.m. CST

    MurderMostFowl

    by berserkrl

    "every surviving genetic line eventually mated with the line of Hera" -- Most likely because the BSG group had extra prestige because they could maaake things gooo.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Murder, where was the dylan version?

    by WickedJacob

    I thought all we'd heard so far was the Bear McCreary version.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    so the Centurions never returned in 150,000 years.

    by Greenlee

    I wonder where they went.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Final Answer

    by Mr.LordBronco

    Here's what really would have happened. The humans would have died trying to kill the Toasters. Baltar would not have lived past episode 3 of Season one. In actuality, if the creators had the gumption, th e series would have ended at the space battle in the sky, with the cylons eradicating the humans utterly. The epilogue would be 150000 thousand years in the future where the cylons succumb to self-destruction. THAT would have been a good ending. Baltar... That dude would have been pushed out of an airlock... Oh well, -MLB

  • March 20, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    expert40 is right and the flashbacks were IMPORTANT

    by slder78

    The flashacks give the characters their ultimate motivation which they get on Earth. Hera is important because it allows humans genetic recombination with Cylons. She is the key. And that's later proved by our present day calling her Eve. She DID NOT die young. Maternal mitochondrial DNA is passed in the ovum to all children born from that woman. Since it all traces back to her, she HAD TO have given reached puberty and given birth.<p>My verdict I don't know what the haters were looking for but for me that was light years ahead of The Sopranos, above Star Trek TNG, way above DS9. And in three words. It. Was. Brilliant. Well done Ron Moore, cast, and crew.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Why are there so many haters?

    by BigMick

  • March 20, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Starbuck vs Jesus

    by blrp

    expert40: first up, your statement "Jesus, the way I believe in Jesus and Christians do, is.." is absurdly broad. There are many ways to understand Jesus: philosopher/teacher/religious leader/Son of God/Son of Man (as just the tip of the iceburg). Also there are many, many, many versions of Christianity, but this ain't Sunday School. To get back to Starbuck as Jesus: where is the suffering for collective sins? She had no moment on the cross, no persecution, no rejection of her flock. It just doesn't fit. IMHO.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    Liked the finale but the flashbacks didn't do much

    by D.Vader

    I think they could have been shortened or something. Didn't do much for me, not having seen every episode. <p> bserkrl- I am saying Hera DID have kids. I've never suggested otherwise. I was offering up evidence in favor of our argument. Sheesh, fight with someone else.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:02 p.m. CST

    As Good an Ending As I Was Expecting

    by HermesTrismestigus

    My Problem was with the shitty special effects, they looked cheap cartoony and unfinished like that damn airplane crashing in the ocean in air force one. Is it really that expensive to get some comicon or dragoncon fans dressed up like centurions, they would fly there for free.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:03 p.m. CST

    BSERKRL

    by D.Vader

    I am saying Hera DID have kids. I've never suggested otherwise. I was offering up evidence in favor of our argument. Sheesh, fight with someone else.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:04 p.m. CST

    zeroscum

    by berserkrl

    "How did she hold the key to anything?" -- Without her we wouldn't all be descended from Cylons.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Kara leading humanity to it's doom...

    by Bill Clay

    In a manner of speaking, Kara first led them to the dead original Earth, which was the site of humanity's doom.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:04 p.m. CST

    http://www.tvguide.com/News/Battlestar-Galacticas-Ron-1004256.as

    by zeroscum

    http://www.tvguide.com/News/Battlestar-Galacticas-Ron-1004256.aspx?rss=breakingnews&partnerid=imdb&profileid=01

  • March 20, 2009, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Why are there so many haters?

    by BigMick

    Thought this ending was great. Tied up all the loose strings, more or less, looking at you Starbuck. Hera was obviously important in that she ended up being the cradle of life for all of us now. The in-heads were explained to be angels of god, sure it was a conclusion come to by Baltar but I think we as viewers have to accept it to be true. And with Starbuck Ron Moore needs to give an explanation of this. Either she was an in-head angel like 6 and Baltar, or an angel sent back in physical form. Shitty writing on Moore's part to explain this. <p> All in all, great ending to a great show. Thanks to all involved for 4 seasons of amazing television

  • March 20, 2009, 11:05 p.m. CST

    "Daybreak" vs. stargate atlantis' "Enemy At The Gate"

    by Greenlee

    who wins?

  • March 20, 2009, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Would've been slightly funny if they sent all D'Annas...

    by MurderMostFowl

    If they sent all the D'Annas to New Zealand.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:06 p.m. CST

    there are a lot of folks here jonesing for a fight

    by WickedJacob

    and the talkback is way too noisy for most to follow the conversations. In other words, a fun time.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:06 p.m. CST

    Alphi1

    by berserkrl

    "real Kara Thrace was dead" -- The real Kara Thrace was the same as this one; she was an angel (or whatever) all along.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:06 p.m. CST

    All that "god" bullshit ruined it for me.

    by fanboy71

    Starbuck just vanishes into thin air? Lame. Those fuckers wouldn't last a week out there with no shelter and no food. Where are they going to get the seeds to plant crops? I like that they made it to Earth, but blowing up all their ships? Dumb. Woulda made some nice condos outta them big ass boats.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:06 p.m. CST

    That was awesome.

    by eric haislar

    Man such a great ending to a great series.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:07 p.m. CST

    LOL

    by Integra

    The only way to fix all the inconsistencies and holes in the story was just use a 'divine' explanation! Should work because people lap that crap up every day anyhow in their daily lives, should work for a tv show! Dont look behind the curtain folks! Nothing to see! So all the people who've been running for their lives from the everpresent threat of annihilation, after having all their relatives and worlds DESTROYED, are now going to be cool with just parking in a field, throwing up a lean-to and doing away with the only means of defense they have (their fleet)? LOL. BTW, now that they committed to a divine explanation of the in-heads, see if that fits with all the previous advice and motivations they purported throughout the series. I bet it fits perfectly! LOL. I've never seen such a hokey showdown. At CIC im surprised Cavil wasnt twirling his mustache as he tried to sneak out with Hera. "I'll just be going now thank you" or some other cornball nonsense. BTW, why did he kill himself? Seemed rather convenient!

  • March 20, 2009, 11:07 p.m. CST

    bma2192

    by berserkrl

    No, it's not Baltar who's immortal, it's the Baltar-appearing angel who is.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:07 p.m. CST

    musical touch pad?

    by NinjaChampion

    What movie had someone punching in codes on a keypad and the different tones played a song? Not much to go on but it's driving me crazy trying to remember what movie or show it is from.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:07 p.m. CST

    I think we need a series filled entirely with In-Heads

    by Mandamas

    They were my favorite part of the show, though they dont like to be called In-Heads.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:07 p.m. CST

    berserkrl: nah, I don't think that's it

    by chrth

    I didn't see anything to make me think she was an angel all along. Although in-head Leoben did lead her to her death. It's all so confusing.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Well Done.

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    I am very gratified that RDM and company managed to create an ending that not only is worthy of the series, it is arguably the best episode of the series. Great action and emotionally satisfying character development. No time travel cop-out. All the answers I needed. It built on pretty much all that came before it, not just the last year or so. All the suffering and fighting turned out to be worth it. Even Cally's death was not in vain. Satisfying on so many levels. The use of the classic Centurians was great. And one of my favorite moments was the beautifully scored scene where the rag-tag fugitive fleet flew into their sunset with the original BSG main theme. Sweet. And the open question of whether this will happen again is far better than a forgone conclusion that it would. Loved the concluding robot montage that turned happy new technology into a possibly (but not necessarily) forboding vision. I could go on and on, but I'll leave that to others and go get some sleep. Thanks to all at BSG. Well done.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    I dont think so, bersekrl

    by WickedJacob

    Kara was always connected to her destiny, but I don't think she was an angel all along.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    Did no one get that Starbuck was a

    by eric haislar

    Instrument of god. Makes perfect sense to me.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    And they have a plan...

    by tbransonlives

    But everyone involved with the show didn't.<p> God and angels? Kara just disappearing? I'm not an action person just to let you know, I'm a story person and they took the cheap easy way out on the story. And yes I've heard the "it's all about the characters" line, but isn't the true mark of great tv the ability to combine both story and character?<p> I am prepared to be called a hater, but just know you are an apologist. Want proof? Look at everyone's post and I mean everyone's during the middle of the show calling it the greatest thing ever. Now look at everything after that. And did you notice the lack of enthusiasm?

  • March 20, 2009, 11:08 p.m. CST

    What happened to D'Anna anyway?

    by D.Vader

    Or Leoben?

  • March 20, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST

    On more thing on Tyrol

    by BigMick

    When you listen to Gaelin Tyrol talk about what he's going to do with his life, and he explains the land he's going to as being an island with highlands and very northern where it gets cold. When he's saying all this there's celtic music playing in the background. Did anyone else think that perhaps he's talking about what is now Scotland. Perhaps he begins the culture of Scottish people. <p> Think about it, Gaelin...native language is Gaelic. Gaelin>>>Gaelic, eh? eh? eh?

  • March 20, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST

    WickedJacob. you're right...

    by MurderMostFowl

    Yes, I mean that version. I never even knew there was anything other than the Hendrix version before BSG, so I'm ignorant there... but my observation still holds... we get a different version of the song for a different iteration of the human experience, or whathaveyou. :)

  • March 20, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST

    D'Anna stayed behind on the original earth

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Wasn't very realistic

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    When Roslin died she shoulda voided her bowels and Adama shoulda gone *phew* and made a stinky face

  • March 20, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST

    zeroscum, thanks for the TV guide link...Ron Moore reveals all

    by zillabeast

    http://www.tvguide.com/News/Battlestar-Galacticas-Ron-1004256.aspx

  • March 20, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST

    NinjaChampion, are you talking about . . .

    by WickedJacob

    Close Encounters of the Third Kind? If so, you lose one (1) internet for not knowing that film by heart.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST

    LOST had the musical note touchpad

    by D.Vader

    With Charlie in the Looking Glass. <p> As did Short Circuit 2 (which had toasters!) if my memory serves correctly?

  • March 20, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST

    The point of Hera went right over your heads

    by Dkev00

    Hera the mother of humanity on earth. That is her purpose. Kind of like what Lucy is in real life.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Oh right, D'Anna was on Earth1.

    by D.Vader

    And she was the only copy after Resurrection was destroyed?

  • March 20, 2009, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Galen produes the Gaelic Culture...

    by UGABugKiller

    ... does anyone else find that frakking awesome?<br><br>An island in the northern continent, he says uninhabited, but not for long.<br><br>GALEN goes to Scotland, and from him the Gaelic people spring.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:11 p.m. CST

    D.Vader, there's a Leoben at the end

    by MurderMostFowl

    There is a Leoben talking with someone ( Adama maybe? ) after the colony ships make the jump to "new" earth.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Dkev00: Uh, no. Lucy is not mitochondrial eve

    by chrth

  • March 20, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST

    Angels

    by Stunt Vocalist 709

    The way I see it, Starbuck was human, and then an angel. Angels took the form of Six and Baltar out of expediency(effectiveness in conveying what they needed - human Baltar and cylon Six would listen to them in the forms they took because of their corporeal relationship) and perhaps an affection for them.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST

    Mitochondrial DNA

    by Dotren

    My friend pointed out to me that since all the Sharons are exact duplicates, they would have passed on the same genetics. Possibly the Sixes have the same basic genetics.<p>That means that the remains may not have been Hera's although I do think they allude to it heavily.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:12 p.m. CST

    re: Galen produes the Gaelic Culture...

    by Melvin_Pelvis

    no, no, no<p> Like someone said up thread, he became Santa

  • March 20, 2009, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Most epic mark of perfection since The Shield.

    by AshokZero

    See topic.

  • March 20, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Can someone explain why

    by Rand92

    Cavil, who was obsessed with