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Is Warner Bros. Looking To Starfleet For Their Hal Jordan?
Beaks here...
If this casting rumor from IESB pans out, Chris Pine is about to become a two-franchise man.
That's assuming the new Captain Kirk wouldn't turn down an offer to play Hal Jordan in Martin Campbell's GREEN LANTERN - which, per producer Donald DeLine, will begin shooting this September in Australia (in order to make a December 17, 2010 release date). According to IESB's source (and Patrick Sauriol of Coming Attractions has evidently heard likewise), Pine is at the top of a list of potential "under 30s" Jordans. This makes much more sense than previous rumors, which sounded like total fanboy inventions (especially Nathan Fillion).
I'm reserving judgment on Pine's Kirk until I see the finished film, but I did like him as the psychotic Darwin Tremor in SMOKIN' ACES. Can he do normal as convincingly as he does crazy? We're about to find out.
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That's a fact.
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Probably not first, not lucky enough
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I am curious about his Kirk, given some cheesy lines Kurtzman and Orci gave him.
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That would've been cool 15 years ago.
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No disrespect.
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So Hal Jordon is supposed to be an accomplished fighter pilot who's been around the world and is experienced enough to be the man with no fear,and hes going to be played by a 20 year old who looks 12. Perfect casting WB...much like how Superman Returns had a Lois Lane who was a Pulitzer Prize winning single mom who had been out of a relationship with Superman for 5 years despite the fact that the actress playing her was only 22. Why cant we get actual ADULTS playing ADULT characters? At this rate if Hollywood ever gets around to doing a Teen Titans movie it'll be with an all fetus cast.....
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No need to make this a teeny-bopper production. If their intent is to get he kids involved, then why not just get a Jonas Brother- sheesh!
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I've become something of a Pine fan, myself. He comes out clean even in the shittiest of movies (coughJUSTMYLUCKcough) and is really good when given the right material. I'd be pumped for a Chris Pine Hal Jordan - clean cut and apple pie enough, but has the right intensity. I'm crossing my fingers that this is true.
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I see it more than Kirk that's for sure...
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That was a pretty good movie by the way. Can't go wrong with Alan Rickman as your lead.
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Get someone older for fucks sake. A Nathan Fillion type would be perfect.
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He was well-cast in Bottle Shock. As for the Fillion thing, fanboy hopes aside, there should be a big role out there for him in a franchise, and I can only hope it's Preacher.
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How many 6 foot tall 12 year olds with the ability to grow facial hair do you know? Pine was born in 80. That mean's he's 29. Far from early 20's. And if he enlisted in the military at 18, that gives him 11 years of service under his belt. How is he not believable?
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the hieght isuepine is a great actor and star trek will prove he can carry a franchise, but to be honest, he's a little short and not very dominating, and while that may work for kirk, GL should stand tall and strong, they need to cast someone 6 2 or over
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... Then I will be all for this. I think he looks the part, and as others have noted his acting is pretty solid. HOWEVER.... If Trek really takes off and this guy is convincing as Kirk, then I don't want to see this guy in another franchise that I really want to see. I feel like it would detract from both... but then, Bale's in fucking everything these days.
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Beaks, you don't have a clue.
He would make a great Hal Jordan.
In the sequel:
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...Now Bruce Campbell on the other hand...
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He has quite the baby face is all.
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Dude, have you watched movies? If they can make Cruise and Stallone look like they're average height, then they can make a 6 foot tall man look like a giant. People rarely if ever cast on the basis of height nowadays.
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What a great movie! I can't deciede if its better than 'SHOOT EM UP' or not. Both were just such fine entertainments.
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...but it sure smells good!
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My initial thoughts are that they could certainly do worse. At least Shia LaBeouf isn't in the running.
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Casting an older actor in their 40s to play the Green Lantern or any superhero for that matter is a dumb move, that is if you plan on making any sequels. Bale was Pine's age when he got Batman, and because hes still relatively young, Christopher Nolan can take his sweet ass time to make his Batman (hopefully) trilogy over the course of a decade. With Iron Man on the other hand, as much as I loved RDJ, the guys older now, and for precisely that reason Favreau has barely a year start to finish to churn out a sequel, and its tough to make a quality film under such a strict timeframe.
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I'd still prefer to see Jake Gylennhaal as HAL. He's got the acting chops, he's got the physique, he'd be cool.
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Thats BS dude Bruce Willis is still a huge action star at the Age of 54. It would be far more interesting to see someone get older as a superhero then someone who is never going to be over the age of 40 by the time movie 3 is over.
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we're not allowed to wear this anymore.
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...You all haven't seen The original series in quite a while...NOT the FILMS. TOS, all three seasons are Free and legal over at CBS.com.
Yea, i can't see Chris Pine as William Shatner from that Whale movie either. That's because he's not about to play a 60 year old man for fuck sake.
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Chris Pine is very quickly becoming either one of my favorite or most hated celebrities of all time. If he sucks, then he and Hayden Christensen can go eat each other in the shed out back. If he rocks as Kirk/Jordan, then he is a living god.
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Look at the cast Stallone has gotten together for The Expendables...all men. Male actors in their 20's in Hollywood all look like 12 year old girls...Pine included. And Downeys age has nothing to do with Iron Mans schedule...the success of the first film is to thank for that. And why was Iron Man such a hit. Because it had a great cast of established,older,BELIEVABLE actors. Had the WB made Iron Man,Stark would have been played by a Smallville reject. Dont forget,this is the same company that was ready to replace Christian Bale with Armin Hammer in their craptastic tweeny bopper version of the JLA that never got off the ground.
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What the hell are you guys and gals talking about?
Pine is pushing thirty.
He's not 12.
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When I saw that first Trek trailer and Pine crashes over the cliff and then yells "I'm JAMES T KIRK"..some guy in the audience started singing the Muppet Babies theme song and the entire audience started laughing. That aboot sums it up...
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I'm not saying he doesn't have the ability to play the role...I think, at least with the latest trailer, that Kurtzman and Orci have given Kirk, and maybe other charcters stupid dialogue which would be disappointing.
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Again fine if he is 30 but he has a baby face. he looks way younger then 30 that's all.
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Yet I don't know how he looks now in terms of age.
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Biehn looks old.
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is a great example of someone who was young, but still looked like a man. Hell i think he was 25 when he made terminator but he never looked it.
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search your feeling you know it to be true
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producers like to sodomize 12 year olds.
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Jensen Ackles as young Hal Jordan!
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I think he'd be great as Hal Jordan, but I'd like to see Wes Bentley as Sinestro.
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They want these fuckers in the same shape when they do parts 2 and 3 or for whatever crossovers or spinoffs they do....they realize that fictional characters never age, so they have to milk them young....yes, I am aware what that sounded like.
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It's amazing how they can find the time to make movies AND post all over 4chan...
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Chris Pine
Tatum Channing
Ian Sommerholder
Hayden Christenson
Chase Crawford
Zach Efron
I don't care if any of them might be gay, and I mean, I'm sure their left overs are still hot as fuck, but man, they crush the ego.
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IESB is also saying no more R-rated superhero movies for WB after "Watchmen".
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as in Wendy and Marvin.
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doesn't become the flavor of the month, like Ryan Philippe, Josh Hartnett, Paul Walker, etc. that seemed to appear in every other movie for a period of time.
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After Josh Hartnett.
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Hrm. Got a link? That doesn't surprise me. Watchmen turned out to be an epic fail as compared to what they expected.
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He'll be 29 when they start filming the movie in September... Hal Jordan joined the USAF when he was 18... That works. He looks old enough.
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http://tinyurl.com/dd6nel
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thing. I'm around the same age, a bit older than Pine i think. So are most of my friends, and Chris Pine just looks average for his age, to me.
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(besides Batman, of course). Be honest.
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First of all, I propose a ban on the term 'epic fail.' When people say this, they sound like they're 12 years old. Which they probably are. And Watchmen still did quite well considering all the mitigating factors.
2nd, it's just the height of idiocy to compare Watchmen to Dark Knight and Iron Man, and then be surprised it doesn't make the same money. DK and IM are part of long standing franchises. Watchmen is a standalone film that has superheroes in it. It's not a franchise. It has its own story and is not connected to anything else. It's practically an art film. Did anyone really expect it to do Dark Knight numbers? If WB did, then they're idiots. And then to make the Scarlet Witch-esque proclamation 'no more R-Rated superhero films' because one didn't do Dark Knight numbers is even worse. I swear, executives don't even see differences between individual films. If it has a superhero in it, it must be the same exact film and should do exactly the same numbers. Not to mention that you can do films in almost any genre and include superheroes (action adventure, crime, spy, horror, romance, comedy, tragedy, historical epic, kids film, etc.) Executives only see numbers on account of the fact that they have no soul. -
It may be Pine, it may not. I heard that Sam Worthington and Clive Owen were on a list of possibles for Bond before Daniel Craig was cast. Apparently Owen was first choice--he turned the Broccolis down--so they went to Craig. I'm sure if HE turned it down, Sam Worthington may well have starred in CASINO ROYALE.
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Hrm. Actually, I think there are at least a few Dc characters that could be good for the movies. If it came down to it, I'd rather see a GL movie than another Superman one, if they could find the way to do it right.
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I loved him as Bo Barrett; and he'll do the part well. If you've seen him as Kirk in the STAR TREK trailers, he doesn't look nearly as old as he actually does in an entire film. And based on his performance in BOTTLE SHOCK, I'm comfortable with him headlining in both franchises. Just as long as we aren't looking at someone who SHOULD be playing a nerdy, high schooler with an untainable crush or a very early 20's something going on hormonal hijinks roadtrip, I'm cool with it.
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Don't hold your breath regarding this role....at least I hope that is the criteria.
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starboard bow starboard bow. There's Klingons on the starboard bow starboard bow Jim"
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I would much rather have him as Jordan than Kirk. Just based on the trailer, he seems like Hal. He could be the Chris Reeves of the GL world
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Fuck Hal Jordan!
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you're right. They are different and I never expected WB to make their more conventional superhero movies higher than a PG-13 anyway.
Orbots Commander - Coming Attractions and Latino Review are now saying that the offer has gone out to Chris Pine, not that he is just on a list. But, yes, he could still turn it down. -
Or maybe Oldman. (pfft. Fat Chance.)
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Most of the people in here saying Pine looks old enough are in fact 12. And to a 12 year old, I guess Pine looks like a man. But to me, he looks like who they cast to be in high school in TV shows and movies. AND HE IS AN AWFUL ACTOR!!! Just My Luck? Did some douchebag above, with a black box no less, just say that? Come on guys, gimme a fucing break. I agree with the others who say he looks like a boy. But unlike some of them, I STILL think Bale looks like an idiot as Batman. No reason they can't get someone who looks like an adult in their late 30's. Say what you want about Keaton and Nicholson, but they were ADULTS!! And that is why Iron Man worked, cause the casting respected the audience. And it is one of the main reasons Watchmen did not work, almost the whole cast looked like they just graduated college. I also agree with the others who say Pine's the new flash in the pan dork like Hartnett, Walker, et al. Remember the old days when MEN and WOMEN were cast in adult roles? I think Fillion is a terrible actor, but at least he looks the part. Take Christopher Reeve in the first Supes film. He was in his twenties, but he looked like a MAN!! I swear if they made Fatal Attraction now it would be Paul Walker married to Leighton Meester and cheating with Eliza Dushku. Revolutionary Road was the biggest sinner in this regard. Yeah, Leo looks like some middle aged dude unhappy in his marriage. Just awful. Fuck Hollywood!
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But by the time Reeve did Superman, he was an accomplished STAGE actor. You know, a REAL ACTOR! Not some douchebag who only gets parts cause some gay casting director wanted to fuck.
And yeah, after doing that shitfest Bottle Shock I am sure Pine is in a position to turn down GL. Beyond that though, why does WB want someone who is the face of another franchise being the face of this new one? How dumb are they? -
I dunno about this guy, but I haven't seen him in anything to judge one way or the other. I guess if he's good in Star Trek that'll seal the deal.
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Mar 19, 2009 5:27:58 PM CDT
Can more than one person play the same character?!?!
by bluehawaiisurfer
Yes. Because I'm done watching 60 year old people on the Enterprise. I'm pretty sure different actors can play out the scenes and actually make it interesting.
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Keaton was 37 when they filmed Batman. Bale is 35. Not sure where you are going with that AGE thing because there isn't a huge difference.
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You're a crazy person.
Also, i posted early that i'm in my early thirties, and Pine looks like...a man in his early thirties. "Looking" the right age, people are different and look different all over.
You have a very rigid and wholly subjective view of age, looks, probably beauty too.
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I actually like this. I had thought Gary Sinise would be great, but acknowledge that he would be a bit too mature for the role as they intend it now.
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Throughout the film he can repeat "You want a toe? I can get you a toe, believe me."
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What... Too soon?
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...Armie Hammer. This is such disappointing news.
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As anyone that has watched FARSCAPE knows, Browder has the cocky pilot that goes into space and encounters aliens down cold.
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Mar 19, 2009 5:44:24 PM CDT
At least this is better than Yelchin. Now all they need is keep
by damien chowder
Don't deviate like all super hero adaptation. Green Lantern is ready made for the cinema.
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Chris Pine? I don't mind. As long as he doesn't ham/cheeze the roles of either. (Sorry, haven't had lunch yet)Just a comment on the young-looking stars of today and how they clash with the old-Hollywood sensability to cast young men that looked older than they were: Hmph!Josh Brolin, though...
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TWENTY NINE.... ARE SOME OF YOU POSTERS THAT FUCKING STUPID.
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Bale was rughly 30 years old when they started filming Batman Begins.... some people on this talkback are a bunch of weenies.
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But he's like 42 or so.BTW - Loved Farscape after 3-4 shows (didn't know what to think at first, I guess).
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And better yet... Terri Schiavo would make a way better Hector Hammond.
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So you have an up-and-comer starring in a soon-to-be blockbuster....so you cast him in your wannabe blockbuster.
I'm not really looking forward to the new Trek movie. I'm too much of a TOS fan and don't want to see the parts mis...I mean...recast. However, I'm not hoping it fails.
So the new Trek movie is getting some buzz from the new trailer. And word is Pine does well as Kirk. How lazy is it that WB just wants to nab him to play their lead. Why can't they cast somebody in their franchise that isn't already anchoring another, competing franchise. It just seems myopic and lazy.
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If you bring in Kyle Rayner as a young Lantern, how young will you have to make him, 15? Jordan is older, and while NF is not my first choice, he does fit the bill. Sinestro would best be played by Charles Dance, Geoffrey Rush, Gary Oldman (both good calls by lovecraftian), or as a weird choice, Crispin Hellion Glover (gotta add that Hellion).
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He would rock, you know this to be true!
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Mar 19, 2009 5:55:22 PM CDT
You MUST admit. If they gotta go young, Pine is very good
by industrykiller!
The man is a good actor and he's got a classic not THAT pretty look and an easy charisma. hell I bet he's playing Hal Jordan as much as he is the Kirk we all know in Star Trek.
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That's exactly what happened with Shitty Shia. Spielberg thought he was cute or some shit and all of a sudden it became impossible to not see or hear about that cunt.
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just like Bale was a pre-Batman. Whiners should look to his performance in "Smokin Aces" to see his range. A Green Lantern movie has everything in the world going for it, thanks to the successes of Iron Man. As long as they treat the sci-fi elements with great respect, its a can't miss. Fuck, I wish I could play Kilowog.
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Jude Law as Sinestro
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And an actor that's too old for Jonny Quest.Go figure.
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Pine looks like a frat kid who grew up in a wealthy family - you know, a Kennedy. Foc is more rugged
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and of course green lantern!:)
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No thanks on Young Hal, that's why they introduced Kyle, for the younger audience. Hal should be older and played by an older actor. It's going to be hard to convince me that Pine is Hal for that alone.
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tit for tat, baby.
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has the look. he could play Supes too. Chris pine just doesnt look like Hal Jordan. He might make a good Wally West though, hint hint
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Chris Pine is hot! Yes, I'm a dude and I'm not afraid to admit it. That's exactly why I hated Watchmen. None of the guys were good looking.
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He could use his power ring to make a tricked out 'Bishi Evo!!!
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The amount of homophobic fucks on this sit could make up a population...unfortunately Americas population.
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Hope it goes through!
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...that is one of the reasons I liked Watchmen. Even Matt Goode wasn't too doll-ish. I guess I'm a homophobe now, huh? lol
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I can definately see Pine as Jordan! It seems WB has learned it's lesson anout making a good Superhero Movie...getting the RIGHt Man for the job!
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How unbelieveable is that? The same guy who put James Bond back on track, not once, but TWICE is gonna make my favorite superhero's movie!*sigh!* Awesome...
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WHO THE FUCK CARES? If he was 40 and looks like he does I'd still say no way! And Bale IS too young for Batman. Keaton looked like a MAN, I don't care if he was only two years older in the first Bats than Bale is now, that is meaningless. Some people just have a more mature look, but Hollywood does not want people who look mature, cause some stupid 14 year old girl might think it reminds her of Daddy, and we can't alienate the 14 year old girl cinema goer!!
And I love how no one even brings up WHETHER THIS FUCK CAN EVEN ACT!!! I love how no one cares what a shitty actor this KID is. You're all worse than the Hollywood suits. "Well, he LOOKS good!!" But can he fucking act? NOOOO! It is this kinda bullshit that gave us Keanu Reeves, Paul Walker, Josh Hartnett and the newest butt buddy Channing Tatum. All of them, just awful actors. -
But its not my money, and...far be it from me to interject here. So many people are barely getting by these days, so I wish anyone with a good heart well, in making their dreams come true.
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who is bi-curious around here. Being straight is way too overrated anyway.
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...and he seems to look his age to me. Of course, people continuously swear I look younger than I really am.
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Hilarious! I thought the new fad amongst teens was to be ambi-sexual! I'm sure we got some of those teens in here right now.
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And not in that way, you goobers. For me, Star Trek begins and ends with Kirk, so if I can't get behind Pine's Kirk (not in that way, goobs), then I'm probably not going to enjoy the movie. But I'm fine with him as Hal. He'd make a good Ted Kord, actually. When are they going to get around to making that Blue Beetle movie?
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Including the overseas revenues, the film's only about $11 million shy of making back its big budget. It's still in theaters, and then there's still DVD revenue to come, and that will be big for a film like this, with the novelty of a director's cut and the animated sidebar.So, in summary: they made a $150 million comic-book movie with hardcore graphic violence and steamy sex, characters no one's heard of, and a bunch of actors no one's familiar with...AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE ALMOST $200 MILLION.Any studio that says, "scrap this formula" would be ignoring the math. Surely someone is looking at this thinking, a smidgen less budget and a smidgen more recognizable property/talent, and we've got ourselves a winner.
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I thought he was brilliant in Smokin' Aces, gave a stand-out performance with minimal screen time. Hal Jordan is a great role for him.
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They could do a lot worse than Pine.
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Young Captain Kirk is Hal Jordon, for years in the comics he was even drawn to resemble young Kirk but since we have no time machine to retrieve 1969 Shatner for the role it's ass that Bamber is not being considered
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maybe hes already hit the propecia/rogaine double whammy in preperation...and then theres always plugs (where can do em quite well now - providing there hasnt been too much loss) or a piece
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yeah u put them in a computer i think ud get Pine
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THAT-is a masterstroke.
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appearing next to some dude off CORRIE!!!
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when no one gave a shit about Sci Fi and laughed at it (although it was gearing up)...ud expect Bamber to be able to get a decent acting gig post BSG
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a veteran pilot with a lot of experience under his belt - not some kid
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This is cool but Green Lantern and Star Trek are way too similar story wise. So basically if they cast him as Hal after he's already Kirk it would totally take away from Green Lantern IMO. I mean the Green Lantern corp are pretty much the Federation with power rings instead of starships. I know they're not literally that similar but to the average movie goer they would be.
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I really expected to be attacked when I shared my secret but you guys have been great.
Now here's the rest of the truth. Media Messiah and I have been emailing each other for several months, ever since we found out that we were the only homosexual talkbackers. That's why he's here now. Go ahead and tell them Media, these guys are cool with it. We aren't going to be able to keep this secret forever, and you know it. -
THEY NEED SOMEONE WHO IS AT LEAST 6'3+3/8THS".
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Yeah, I know he's a Flash Rogue, but still. Dammit, I knew Watchmen would kill the proposed Suicide Squad movie. That's really the only downside for me, tho, as I absolutely love that movie.
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Thank you so much. Make sure to tell Media Messiah that, too. I think he's being a little bit bashful right now.
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The emotionless robots, that is. Imagine an army of Keanus coming at you-like the "Burly Brawl"(whatever the fuck that means) from Matrix 2.
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This is by far the best name I've heard so far (at least under 30) I still wish Dennis Quaid could do it somehow, but they could do a lot worse than this guy...
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Thank you! It's like some "fans" want it to fail. I bet it's the blue mini-manhattan.
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...Are probably the same fuckwits who lashed out uncontrollably when Ledger was announced as the Joker. Just a bunch of rabid, overreactionary douchebags.
Oh, and Ledger never even reached 30 years old. Guess his performance sucked, too.
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Nice. And what is with all of this ageism? It's stupid. Stop equating young people to CW actors. There are young people OUTSIDE of your television screen.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm encouraged by what I've seen from 'Star Trek', especially the 2nd trailer. That said, there is a split second in the first trailer where Kirk gives somebody a high-five. A high-five!!! It was fucking Mad Max Beyond Gay. Get it right JJ. Kirk is a dick, not a tool.
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I guess he's been done to death lately, but still. If you're going to do a Green lantern Movie(s), why not include several anyway?
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Chris Pine - Hold out for Cpt. America. Way cooler.
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Seeing TDS John Stewart in costume would be awesome though.
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And not Common for John Stewart...no no no. Wrong choice.
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I really hope they use DC:The New Frontier as inspiration for Hal Jordan's GL origin. Guess it's too much to hope it'll be a period piece starting at the end of the Korean War.
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You sir are the fuckwit. Ledger WAS too young, and his performance was the epitome of MEH! Lick your lips, fix your hair, repeat. Wow, what a performance!!
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Again,look at the X-Men films. Hugh Jackman,James Marsden,Halle Berry,Famka Jansen,Patrick Stewart and Ian FuckHesOld McKellen...all age appropriate to their characters and all older experienced actors. Iron Man? RDJ and Paltrow,Jeff Bridges...age appropriate actors qho broguht experience to the roles. Now look at the WB movies. Katie Holmes as a Gotham City DA. Superman Returns was a Kingdom Come style story about older versions of the characters but it was cast with people who looked like fucking kids. Watchmen was a story about over the hill RETIRED superheroes,and apparently the WB had some say in getting Snyder to cast younger actors for the parts...after all,the WB believes that nobody wants to see old people and no one can ever be shown smoking or drinking in their movies again and everything must always be rated PG13 or less. Fuck the WB. Their live-action division is doomed to fail,and I can only hope they keep throwing money at Bruce Timm and letting him do whatever the hell he wants with the direct to DVD projects. The recent animated Wonder Woman movie was a million times better than anything the WB has or will ever do live-action. You know why the Batman movies made so much money? Because Chris Nolan was able to keep the WB at arms length and do whatever the hell he wanted...other directors will not be so lucky. As a result,we're going to get a bunch of 12 year old superheroes in black leather running around trying to be "dark" so they can make a billion dollars just like Batman!
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Wait, Coming Attractions is back? Man, I used to love the old one back in the day ("the day" being scarcely over a decade ago, which by Internet standards is quite some time).
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fucked by a pig
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got to stop this shit where all the parts go to the same actors.
Why not just cast seth rogin even though he's totally wrong for the part.
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Will Smiff / Spam Jackson route with this. And if your not onboard, your a racist.
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but Pine is indeed solid.
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Are you sure that's what you wanna compare him too-? He cleans linoleum?
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James Franco! He probably wouldn't do it though. Michael Shannon would be an out of nowhere choice that I would find awesome. And of all the suggestions I keep hearing I don't think it's possible to get more boring than Nathan Fillion. So please not Nathan Fillion.
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I thought all the height haters would be screaming about how he's 5'8''
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there is no high five. Kirk says "buckle up" and reaches out to grab McCoy's shoulder. you silly goose.
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you dickhead, not silly goose. my apologies.
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I keep reading how good this guy in Trek? Could he really be. If so, go for Green Lantern, Chris. Or even better, go for Fitz in Pyramids of Mars!
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he might be as good, better , given time - who knows
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Mar 19, 2009 9:15:01 PM CDT
YAY A CONTRACT FREE IPHONE 3G!!!
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
8 GIG FOR 600 DOLLARS!?!?!? WHAT!?!?! AS MUCH AS A 360 AND 3 GAMES??? ARENT WE IN A RECESSION?!?!? FUCK YOU APPLE!!!
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imo is the best named so far
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He's one of the names up, but it's a question of branding. Yes, Christian Bale is playing both Batman and John Connor, but only one of those characters is iconic and a damn near universal franchise brand (hint: it isn't John Connor).
Paramount will probably bend over backwards to brand Chris Pine as James T. Kirk in as recognizable and effective a way as they can, so watering down the merchandizing possibility by letting him cross the street to Warners to potentially set up another major tent pole with his face plastered all over that might be a problem.
I don't personally see a problem with it, but Hollywood politics might very well get in the way of that. You need to really marry the actor to the role in cases like these, and I'm not sure WB or Paramount will be comfortable marrying James T. Kirk to Green Lantern.
Two big properties (with one's success- Star Trek- inevitably leading to a rush to sequel) split between one actor might cancel each other out, and that's not the kind of business sense either big studio appreciates. I wonder if anyone has looked at Matt Bomer at all? -
Inspired casting.
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Chris Pine is headed for big things after Captain Kirk - the tracking on the new TREK looks basically like this: "Everyone who likes STAR TREK hates him. Everyone else loves him." This means that 95 percent of the world loves him, because only 5 percent of the world loves STAR TREK. If that. Furthermore, one need only look at the studio's disastrous efforts to find someone - anyone - willing to play a character who is guaranteed box-office death worse than SPEED RACER (consider - SPEED RACER is a better-known property than "Green Lantern" - who?). This movie probably won't gret made, but if it does it won't have the epic "War in Space" tone people want. It'll be a youngish actor doing a lot of "Whoah - I can make stuff with light - COOL!" Think James Franco or Hayden Christianson. SEE THE LIGHT JUNE 2011. Nonsense like that. I guarantee it. And no actor worth a damn is going to want anything to do with it.
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...this is an origin story. He's a young guy couple yrs out of the AF after punching out a Colonel. Read the fucking comics.
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Mar 19, 2009 9:27:24 PM CDT
James Franco already made an audition for this part
by the_genteel_gentile
It's called Flyboys, and wasn't too hot. I really thought Franco was gonna blow up big after Freaks & Geeks and James Dean, but then he just made bad movie after bad movie. Followed by another bad movie and Oh, bad acting in the Spider-Man trilogy. Then he played a dim witted weed dealer in a marginally amusing comedy and kissed Sean Penn in some agenda ridden glorification propaganda. Well made and effective propaganda? Yes. Was Milk fairhanded and multi-dementional? No, (but it was decent, it COULD have even MORE blatant, there was SOME sublety to it's sermon). Do I have a problem with twisting facts to serve a political service? Yes (and so should Mickey Rourke). Now all of a sudden he's running around with his nose in the air acting like he's this great intellectual poet with a higher education and the degree to prove it, so everyone should listen to my sound political advise. Shut up man. I use to tell people for year and years how Franco was going to be the next big thing, now I don't even care. Pretty much everything he's done since 'Geeks' has been bland. He's never matched the charisma and magnetic appeal his character on F&G had.
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Yes!!!! Now there's a young guy who LOOKS like a man. Great idea Gwai Lo.
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and mine too - what a ride
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Great actor, too old for the part
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Hal Jordan is supposed to be a little older than most of the other heroes. Remember when his hair was grey on the sides? Kinda like Reed Richards. He is supposed to already have lived a life of adventure before getting the ring. Then if they bring in the others in later films (Stewart, Guy, Rayner) they can cast twenty somethings for those roles. Fillion is 37, which would be a good age.
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http://www.voteforjordan.com/
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Men just dont look like men anymore. Look at the actors of 15-20 years ago compared to the Zac Efron looking pretty boys of today. Pine may in fact be 29,but he looks like hes in his teens. And all the women in Hollywood are forced to look like they're 14 until the day they hit 30 and then they're considered old hags. Give me age and experience any day of the week....
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Well said!
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You can't cast 29 year olds to be teens on TV shows AS WELL AS adults in movies. It makes no fucking sense.
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sphincter of the internet.
Pine always has that scared look on his face. He has seen too much for his tender years.
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a Hollywood hunk.
Twenty years ago, a hunk had some meat on him, some muscle, some heft.
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Mar 19, 2009 10:28:20 PM CDT
Love Green Lantern, want a serious film, but I'd also pay a fort
by mrd
to see the Shat in the costume. It'd be a ****ing riot.
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No Pine for GL. Who's right? Who's wrong? Wachowski!
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Well, at least we got John Waters as Sinestro. Make the deal WB!
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Shatner is just a caricature. LONG LIVE PICARD!
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I'm thinking of a number between 11 and 13 LoL
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...Its something hollywood has lost in the last 15 to 20 years. The need to appeal to every demographic across the board sees them casting guys whose appeal lies with 13 year old girls, and then shaping them to play the part of an action hero. Its why geeks are orgasmic about The Expendables, yet no one else will give a flying fuck. Its also why horribly miscast jokes like Brad Pitt in Basterds exsist. Can you imagine Ryan Oneal or Robert Redford leading the Dirty Dozen or The Wild Bunch? No, because Hollywood didn't make those films hoping teenage girls would line up in droves to see them. Its another one of the reasons its a shame to see Watchmen fail, because when Hollywood finally casts a role right, like with Rorschach, its exciting. Not that this matters, as you may aswell cast a Mannequin as Hal Jordan or Kirk and get the same results. I think its a shame people realised how interesting Pine was before he got a chance to do some good movies, same with Shia. Its a waste that they didn't get to toil in some genuinely good indies like Gyllenhall before being bought and paid for.
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...Just bring your budget down a notch and you wont need to make such retarded casting calls. Look at Taken or Gran Torino, both huge hits, because they focused on casting characters with actors who feel right for the part. Sure, it may not say in the script for Summer Movie "A" that the guy is a father or grand father, but he should look like a fucking Alpha Male, not someone you'd put first on the list of jailhouse fuck buddies.
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WB wants a young guy who looks like a man- then get Henry Cavill- he was almost James Bond, almost Superman-I'm repeating myself from another thread- but right is right, Pine is playing Kirk for pete's sake, give somebody else a shot! Oh yeah...Vincent Cassell as Sinestro.
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More crappy casting by the morons in Hollyweird. Fucking amateurs get a clue. Yet another comic book movie being turned to shit and whats most fucked up about it is this was a slam dunk casting decision that i thought they couldn't possibly fuck up. Lots of actors to choose from for this role. dipshits!! I guarantee Geoff Johns had nothing to do with this decision. John Waters definitely looks like Sinestro, but i doubt he has the acting chops.
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Watchmen is a poor example. Aside from Rorschach and Dr. Manhattan, the film was AWFULLY cast. Goode, Ackerman, that idiot who played the Comedian, the Nite Owl dude. Half of them looked like they just graduated college. Hardly an example of good casting. Otherwise I definitely agree with everything you said.
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another pretty face
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not short and flirty with dreamy eyes and a button nose - that didnt come out right
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I have no idea if this rumor is true. However, I think it's telling that most of the people who have actually seen his work have said that it's good casting, while those who haven't are posting all the negatives. I thought he was great in Bottleshock, and based on that performance I have great confidence in him as both Kirk and Jordan.
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Fredo Corleone. Don't believe me?
http://tinyurl.com/c686ag
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It's not really that Hollywood is pedobear. Hollywood produces what sells. And audience dollars are controlled by women more than men. Yeah, you heard me. It's parents that take their kids to movies, and usually that's mom. It's guys trying to get girls to like them who take the girls to action/horror movies. It's women that control the market, and women have spoken out about how they feel about "non-threatening men." They love 'em. Hence, we're getting nothing but Zac Efrons. Don't blame Zac. It's hardly his fault that he and Robert Pattison and Dan Radcliffe are what passes for a leading man today. Gimme Clint Eastwood any time, though. Rowr.
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...But Roger Ebert just gave Knowing 4 stars. How weird.
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desu
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I'm a decade+ older than required to see an R rated movie (this is not an isolated incident either). So I guess I can't be the Green Lantern even though I've got it all!Living well and defying aging,Yours Truly, thebearovingian
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that's not the formula that made DK and Iron Man two of the most successful funny book movies ever. that's the formula that made Fantastic Four complete unwatchable trash. Why don't they stick to what works? IM and DK were both movies directed by guys that respected and understood the genre and its fanbase. And that fanbase is not women. And if a movie is done well women will probably go see it as well. and don't know what the guys to gals ratio was for DK and IM, but i know women who enjoyed both movies.
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Mar 20, 2009 1:11:00 AM CDT
CHRISTIAN BALE FOR GREEN LANTERN or I'm not interested.
by dannyglovers_dickblood
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I realize that most people who post on here know little to nothing about the military, but pilots don't enlist at 18. They get commissioned as officers after obtaining their Bachelor's degree, then have about 1-2 years of flight training before being set loose in a fighter. So realistically, a fighter pilot who is 29 only has about 5 years behind the stick in a cockpit. That being said, I can see Chris Pine as Hal Jordan. I like the idea of Nathan Fillian more, though.
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...what're ya talking aboot, Beaks? Nathan Fillion would be great!
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Scott Speedman. It's a no-brainer.
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have clearly never read a Green Lantern comic. Hal is incredibly early in his career as a pilot when he gets the ring and this film, as much as some people may be getting tired of them, is going to be an origin story. 29 is a fine age for the actor playing Jordan, in addition to the fact that Pine not only looks like Hal Jordan but appears as though he can handle the cocky elements of the character as well.
Also, as much as I dig Nathan Fillion and Ben Bowder and all these other genre names that get bandied about none of them scream GL to me. NONE.
Oh yeah, and I think it's a really smart move for Pine if he does take on GL as it'll help prevent him from being typecast as Kirk, similar to Harrison Ford taking on Indy shortly after the massive success of Star Wars.
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Dude, you're out of your mind. Pine looks like he is in high school. And Jensen Ackles as Guy Gardener???? What the fuck are you smoking?
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Let me start by saying that your name is awesome, but your ideas are balls. Do you know what heroes look like? They don't look like Garrett Dillahunt, or whatever his name is. That dude is a great character actor, but he is no lead. Also, Jeffrey Dean Morgan played the Comedian and did a phenomenal job in Watchmen. Jensen Ackles is so perfect for Guy that the dude who pencils Green Lantern Corps started using the cat as photo-reference for god's sake... Oh, and what I'm smoking is the sweetest of cheeba the Great White North has to offer.
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and if the dudes you went to high school with look like Chris Pine, those weren't high school kids, thos were NARCs.
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and if the dudes you went to high school with look like Chris Pine, those weren't high school kids, those were NARCs.
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Hollyweird instead of choosing the youngest actor you can get, why dont you cast the BEST actor you can get? And to me the best Hal jordan that they could put on the screen is Eric Roberts. He would make an awesome and insanely good Jordan.
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Woa. Never thought about that combo, but it would definitely rock. Fillion and Jordan have a coolness that most actors will never have.
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When you watch The Hurt Locker you will believe.
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""That said, there is a split second in the first trailer where Kirk gives somebody a high-five. A high-five!!!""And upon examining that clip, he is merely patting Bones on the shoulder. No high five, so no bad sign.
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Till these actors are signed...Chris Pine is just another wiseass looking ass clown...can't wait for Star Trek to bomb after one week at the box office...I see Zach Quinto is really carrying that Heroes franchise huh?
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Not many actors really want to prop up two tentpole franchises like that.
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...is the best comic book casting ever.
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DC's rubbish, cardboard characters are unworthy to set light to one of Marvels farts!! But Chris Pine is an interesting actor who, given less than sucky material, could do something plausible with it!
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He's got that thin, evil look, and Sinestro is meant to be an older and more experienced Green Lantern.
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for the Jon Stewart GL.
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Ok, WB wants Pine because 1) he's young and old enough to play the part; 2) He's in good shape; 3) proved he can act yet as not been tagged as in a movie category (yet that might change with Star Trek and Green Lantern, but it'll bring the $$ in for him that's for sure!); 4) IS tall enough at 6 feet tall; 5) is good looking enough to bring in the chicks to the theatre instead of staying home while the guys go out to see the movie.That's why they want to bring him in. The whole strategy is bring in the most people to see the movie, what better way than to have a guy that can pull off the character yet still look young enough to have that "awwwww" effect on chicks... !? Also let's not forget the money aspect of the whole production. Pine is not an established actor, so his pay rate won't eat a chunk of the money that is going in this thing. While many other actors would ask triple what they 'll pay Pine. They might consider an amount then give a percentage off the movie profit in order to get him. This way if the movie makes money, Pine will make money, if the movie doesn't make money then Pine still gets his pay.WB pulled off Batman; yet crashed Superman to a point that they'll either need to be very inventive to continue the franchise by killing off a bunch of people or need to reboot the whole damn thing; I don't think they can afford missing this one.I beleive Pine can make a very good Al Jordan.
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just in case Star Trek is a big hit and his price tag goes up. Of course, who knows if Start Trek is going to even be close to a hit. That being said, I'm not terribly familiar with Chris Pine so I'll probably form an opinion sometime after I see the Star Trek movie.
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Have YOU read a GL comic? I mean besides the current run which just recently revealed how young Hal was when he joined the Air Force? Or besides the current run where you get your handle of "Arkillo" from? Don't act like you're uber-nerd when anyone can pick up the last twelve issues of GL and be an authority on his character since they just recently re-hashed his entire "secret origin." When it comes to characters like Hal Jordan they are so well-defined at this point that the mythology is what matters most, not necessarily what's occurring in the comics. How characters are written changes direction like the breeze and you can't really use it as any kind of source material for a film.
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Not the old Black Hand but the current one... The necrophiliac version.
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This has already been debunked. Let's move on.
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He'd make a good Hal Jordan...
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If it was up to them Crispin Glover and Bruce Campbell would get every role in every single movie.
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Now that Bruce Campbell's in his '50s, the fanboys want Crispin Glover and Nathan Fillion in every role in every single movie.
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If you read the most recent Black Hand story arc you might know where I'm coming from. This isn't a case of fanboy lust. It really feels like Geoff Johns took Glover and put him into a costume and wrote about him. It's weird. But yeah, Fillion should totally be Green Lantern ;D
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DC's superior characters are about as far above Marvel's child's toy characters as Megan Fox is from your ugly girlfriend's diseased, fucked out, yeast cream twat. P.S. your pron is teh suk.
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While I have no clue why you're attacking me, seeing as how we're basically agreeing with each other on this potential casting, I'll take a minute to lay out my GL cred for you. I've been reading comics for almost 20 years, but for the first 5 I was a total Marvel zombie. When I finally realized that DC had more to offer than Supes and Bats I started reading JLI and Green Lantern. I I immediately dug the hell out of GL's design and the concept of what the ring could do and what the user had to be to wield it was something that was really interesting to me at that age (and now). Then Jordan went crazy and eventually died and Rayner came in with his ridiculous mask and I dropped the book for the most part. During that time I went back and picked up older issues of the book as well as GL/GA (which are pretty much all great and you should read if you get the chance). Years pass, blahdy blahdy blah, and then Geoff Johns shows up writes GL: Rebirth and brings my boy back from the dead, makes Kyle cool, and has the decency to make Guy Gardner even more awesome than he was in the 90's all at the same time. I was back on full-time with GL from there and that includes picking up the mind-blowingly awesome Sinestro Corps Wars (in which, you're correct, I got my handle) and beyond. Oh, and as a long-time and well-read GL reader I think that Johns's run, whenever he decides to end it, will be considered the definitive run for the character, which is why I would imagine all the media that uses the character will draw from it much like much of the animated and live-action versions of Bats draw from TDK, Year One, Long Halloween, etc. If you're trying to make a financially profitable adaptation of something more often than not you'll use the most bankable version of that source material.
P.S. "Secret Origins" kicked ass.
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Look I love the guy, plus he's Canadian - most good actors are (or Australian), but that's stupid casting. He's old, now fat, and just doesn't have the chiseled comic-book hero look. Jack Black would have been better casting as he's at least all the way in the other direction. Pine seems like an interesting choice. Liked his Aces performance, as Kirk is growing on me, and think he could be good. Inspired casting would have been Thomas Gibson from Dharma and Greg, but he's now too old. Has the look tho'.
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There was a great quote from him in an interview" if my daughter asked me would it be ok to follow me or her mothers foosteps in to acting I would say no and persuade her and argue with her to go to school get good grades go to college and get a job that would allow her to make a difference in this world. Showbusiness is a horrible life.
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Superhero movies are starting to suck. Iron Man is absolutely boring on repeat viewings, the Spiderman movies were campy garbage from the start, (UTTERLY INCONGRUENT with the Spiderman universe of the comics) and also fanboy casting is starting to reach new and retarded heights- Nathan Fillon as Green Lantern? FUCK THAT! That would be such laughable bullshit. Come on you geeky ass-blossoms.
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That would be frickin' awesome.
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Hah, that was close to being a tl;dr but I managed to get through all of it. The only thing I can really say is that Guy Garnder was never cool in the 90's but lately he's become pretty endearing, especially in GL Corps. Since you're actually reading the series what are your thoughts on this Agent Orange stuff? Are you burned out yet or ready for moar?
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He knows about lights, so assumingly laterns as well. nah, that wouldn't work. Bale would just tear him down.
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Johns can do no wrong in my book. I've become a bit of a whore for the dude over the years and his GL stuff just makes me smile. When I first heard of all the different coloured Corps I thought there was no way that could be pulled off successively without a whif of lameness, but so far I think he's pulled it off. I'm really excited about Blackest Night and everything leading up to it, man. I think it's going to be something special. As for Guy being cool in the 90's, well, I mean early 90's. Pre-Warrior. Getting smoked in the face by Bats era. He was a dick, but he was amusing. I dug it.
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should be successfully. I don't even know how that happened.
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But I always thought that Dennis Quaid was PERFECT for Hal.
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apart from the Star Trek trailers I don't think I've ever seen him before. So I don't know what to think. Except that the Green Lantern always looked older to me. *shrug*
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Its the role he was born to play.
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i get that hal jordan is clearly mean tobe a guy at LEAST in his mid thirties to start with. i get the idea of hiring a young guy that you can get 4 or 5 films out of
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needs some corrective eye surgery. In fact, people just need to stop saying anyone is a young Brad Pitt. That ain't gonna happen twice.
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Who was the pretty boy that played Cyclops and Lois Lane's husband in Superman returns? Get him.
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"Don't go messing around in there Pooser"!
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I mean, they're like the same guy anyway, right?
I also love that Jensen Ackles gets so much love here. Supernatural is so cool and I have a feeling that guy will never ever get another cool role again. Did anyone else sit through MBV 3D? It was awful. I kept hoping he'd save the movie at some point but they didn't let him! -
Guy Gardner is not some hot chiseled model looking dude. And Ackles would look ridiculous in a bowl haircut!!
Arkillo - great comment about the NARCs in high school. I laughed out loud!
BALZACS - we may be diametrically opposed politically, but comics wise, my friend, you are right the fuck on. DC blows Marvel out of the water. Not even close. -
Why can't adults get work in Hollywood anymore?
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Most pilots are under 6'.
I'm more worried about the fine line this movie could have to walk. For those who are unfamiliar with the GL story, saying that this guy has a special ring that can make anything he can imagine might come off a little hokey. I hope to all hell and back that the majority of it takes place on Earth for the first movie.
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http://www.comingsoon.net/news /avatarnews.php?id=53847
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I mean c'mon, Chris "fivehead" Pine? Nathan Fillion? James Marsden? No! I say Scott Speedman.
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You know, for someone complaining about people needing to be "MEN", you're certainly coming off like a 13 year-old girl. Don't ruffle up your sundress, Susan, it'll all be okay.
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Man, that guy needs more roles. He was absolutely pitch perfect in the 'Dawn' remake. And pretty much everything else he's been in.
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Shane Hurlbut would be a Blue Lantern, because of course he is pure innocence.
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MAKE DEAN FROM SUPERNATURAL HAL JORDAN!!! HE WAS BORN TO PLAY THIS ROLE!!! ANYONE WHO'S SEEN SUPERNATURAL AND LIKES GREEN LANTERN KNOW THIS!!! my first all caps post, and it was called for.
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i gues i should go back and re read the posts...
and ackles has the look of a younger jordan more than any other actor thrown around for this role.
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would be a Black Lantern, because Bale has surely murdered him and had him replaced with an animatronic double.
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How is 'Pieface' racist? I guess I'm an idiot, but I don't get it.
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InfiniteRegress-- you clearly haven't read much of green lantern--new frontier was basically the exact origin story of Emerald Dawn, except less focus on hal in order to involve multiple superheroes. Emerald Dawn will without a doubt be the blueprint for a hal origin--i wonder if they will have the balls to let hal get into a crash because of drinking and driving, putting his friend in the hospital, and sneaking out of prison with sinestro... i'm waiting for blackest night run to be over so i can read all the lantern comics starting right after sinestro corps that i have been accumulating. So, taking that into account, i haven't read secret origin even though i have them--geoff johns origin story could very well be a better blueprint for a lantern movie than the old emerald dawns.
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Hal has not always been an old guy with white hair... he was a young, womanizing cocky son of a bitch who was fearless and climbed the ranks quickly all things considered. I wonder what so many of these lantern talkbackers are basing their concept of the comic on... it sure as hell isn't long time comic readers... hell, i'm not a long time comic reader but i've read a shitload of lantern in a shorter amount of time. watchmen opened my mind to comcis, lantern opened the floodgates to my addiction to straight up, monthly comic book superhero stories... i read dc exclusively and have no interest at all in marvel. i subscribe to every dc comic save birds of pray and a couple others. dc is more compelling and has more iconic characters. not trying to spark a huge debate, but dc has the better lineup for my money.
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I'm sorry that my passion for GL makes you think I'm a 13 year old girl.
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No, really, I think he'd eat that role up. God, I fucking hate DC now but this movie could really kick all kinds of ass. Especially now that we've got a confirmed talented director on board. Now, where's the news on Thor? That movie could be EPIC!
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I think I just turned gayified...
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Chris Pine thus far seems lifeless to me in a way Hayden Christensen (who was rumored to have some chops in non-SW related parts) never could, if that's possible. I am of the opinion that I can give anyone a chance, so I'm going into the new Star Trek with somewhat low expectations. If he can pull off Kirk however, then I say Hal Jordan is fair game.
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That's a BIG muthafuckin' if.
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all they will try to do is mimic the dark knight and fail..just like the fucking ghey horror movie craze
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Not sure if he has the acting chops just yet. I could live with that choice instead of them trying to squeeze some totally miscast, but popular veteran actor into the Green Lantern suit. Just hope they don't pick Samuel L. Jackson for Sinestro.
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how can you call christensen lifeless when even you admit he is 'rumored' to have acting chops. educate yourself and Watch Life as a House and Shattered Glass... two VERY different roles, and both played well. Its not fair to judge him based on star wars where he had nothing to work with.
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was brilliant in Body of Lies as head of Jordan intelligence
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we saw RDJ pull off Iron Man and the success of that movie was thanks to him, GL is not a top tier superhero either and needs some mainstream pulling power
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Does Hal jordan have to be cast under 30?
It's GREEN LANTERN, they can cast as many kids as they want to be in the corp anyway, can't they? Fuck it have a tub of jizz as a lantern, but keep jordan the right age. -
The guy just seems like a fucking superhero.I could easily see him pulling off Hal Jordan ,The Flash or even Green Arrow. Also,some one suggested in another post that the term "epic fail" be banned. I agree,but also we need to ban the worst phrase of them all "Me thinks". No other phrase proves how big of a fucking nerd some one is than that one. Don't think so? Try saying that around a hot chick that you're trying to impress,Then watch as she magicaly turns into an olympic track star.
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'nuff said
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WOuld be perfect. I like pine dont get me wrong. but he's gonna be fed up soon dealing with two franchises. watch the BSG finale and tell me you dont see jordan in Bamber
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Mar 23, 2009 4:09:48 AM CDT
Apollo would be to Hal Jordan what Chris Reeve was to Superman..
by smoke monster loves kate
Indeed.
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Mar 23, 2009 1:14:08 PM CDT
What, so now we've moved from Whedon actors for everything
by white_vader
... to BSG actors for everything. TBers have to be the most brain-dead, uncreative, literal-minded casting experts in the world...
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up there at the side? It looks more like Corey Feldman than David Boring-ass!
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They're looking to Chris Pine based on his performance in a movie that hasn't yet been released. Shia Lewhatever is in every movie requiring a young male lead. It seems like there hasn't been more than one or two solid young actors for at least a decade, maybe 15 years.
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