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UPDATED!! TRANSFORM3RS!! 2011!! Maybe Not...

Merrick again... Michael Bay posted this message on his Shoot for the Edit forums (HERE):
I said I was taking off a year from Transformers. Paramount made a mistake in dating Transformers 3 - they asked me on the phone - I said yes to July 4 - but for 2012 - whoops! Not 2011!!! That would mean I would have to start prep in September. No way. My brain needs a break from fighting robots. Michael
So... 1) Bay will either get paid a lot of money to forgo his brain break... 2) The film will be pushed back a year to 2012... 3) They'll get a new director. I'll now share with you a terrifying concept that just sprang to mind: Ratner! "RATformers!" You can imagine know you can! To be clear, this last option is just me goofing around. I'm aware of NO INDICATION in any way, shape, or form that Bay won't be back.

Merrick here...
Seems Paramount and DreamWorks have staked out July 1, 2011 as the release date for TRANSFORMERS 3. At this time, no "direct competition" exists for the film on this date - which maintains the circa July 4 release established by the first two films in the franchise.
No deals have been inked with director Michael Bay or franchise stars Shia LaBeouf and Megan Fox. Nor has a writer been hired for the third installment.
...says THIS ARTICLE in Variety. Bay's pretty much said he intends to come back, so he'll probably be back. Shia's intentions? Don't know & don't care. Megan? Oh, Megan...

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  • March 16, 2009, 8:11 p.m. CST


    by Lashlarue

    Huh Huh

  • March 16, 2009, 8:12 p.m. CST

    I thought Megan Fox was hot...

    by Ravetin

    ...until that shitty drawl crawled out of her mouth the first she opens it in TF.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST


    by Lashlarue

    We actually sold that toy at Sheetz. <p> EPIC FAIL<p> lol :)

  • March 16, 2009, 8:13 p.m. CST

    smart move

    by IndyAbbey Jones

    this will be paramount answer to sony's spider man 4 and WB possible batman 3...its business but its smart business, a third movie will for saure bring in 200 million plus

  • March 16, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Megan is ugly, Shia is a great actor, Bay is talented.

    by dr sauch

    I'm dead fucking serious. I really can't wait for Transformers.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    This is making that summer look an awful lot like...

    by TheMarineBiologist

    May 2007... Spidey 3, Shrek 3, Pirates 3... all very anticipated, all very flawed.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Yes! More Lincoln Park to jam to!

    by skycrapper

  • March 16, 2009, 8:14 p.m. CST

    Transfomers 3 makes 120 million opening weekend!

    by Lashlarue

    Watchmen makes 55 million. <p> I hate this country. :(

  • March 16, 2009, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Transformers 2 will make 100 mill in 3 days

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Mark my words

  • March 16, 2009, 8:16 p.m. CST

    So they're gonna kill Optimus Prime?

    by Stereotypical Evil Archer

    I knew it.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    If Shia dies and Megan Fox does full frontal nudity...


    ...I'm so there.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:18 p.m. CST

    the events of summer 07 should never be mentioned again

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    it was an atrocity. many innocent people were destroyed in the proccess. i cant believe i made it out alive.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST


    by The Amazing G

    can we at least get past the second before already taking about a third? sheesh

  • March 16, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST


    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell


  • March 16, 2009, 8:26 p.m. CST

    Megan Fox is ugly?

    by Charlie_Allnut

    I REALLY wanna see the chicks you are banging. I honestly would like another Bad Boys movie. That's Michael Bay playing to all his strengths - big, dumb, loud, lots of action, lots of pretty people and fun.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:30 p.m. CST


    by TheMarineBiologist

    This isn't something that we should just forget about... we should celebrate the bravery of all the men and women we lost during that season, not pretend it never happened.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:30 p.m. CST


    by MattmanReturns

    You think he's banging chicks?

  • March 16, 2009, 8:31 p.m. CST

    Shia is a headmaster in Part 3?

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 16, 2009, 8:35 p.m. CST


    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    im sorry but the events during spider-man 3 destroy countless lives, i just dont know if i can do that. those were innocent people. what about all the kids? the shrek 3 aftermath was an insane bloodbath.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    The Death of Optimus Primo

    by Flummage

    ... may be incentive to actually tune in for these. Instead of shiney things and sweaty people -- shiny things, sweaty people ... and some true intergalactic space-opera goodness. A small serving of ILM hyper-tragedy makes the multi-billion dollar spoongfull of sugar go down.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:36 p.m. CST

    It will be a remake of the first one.

    by JackPumpkinhead

    By that time, the first movie will be over 2 years old. That's eternity for the morons that are the target audience, they won't remember that. And Shia will be too old for them, too.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:37 p.m. CST


    by Mullah Omar

    This is huge news.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:39 p.m. CST


    by Sal_Bando

    That's all you gotta know, right there. Big fucking robots. Mikey Bay should make 5 of these suckers.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    pft. the second one hasn't even come out yet.

    by BendersShinyAss

    live in the now

  • March 16, 2009, 8:40 p.m. CST

    I've never seen Spiderman 3!

    by Lashlarue

    Amazing because I love the Spiderman 2!<p> First one was alright.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    We better see Unicron, Bay

    by terry1978

    Staking out some shit a full 3 years before, that better be on your little radar.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    We better see Unicron, Bay

    by terry1978

    Staking out some shit a full 3 years before, that better be on your little radar.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:43 p.m. CST

    those videos

    by King Psyz

    all got paramounted and michael bayped it seems

  • March 16, 2009, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Spidey III==It was OK.

    by Sal_Bando

    I remember the big Sand guy from Wings and the goofy ending w/ Venom and whatever. This was a movie that had wayyyyyyy too much shit packed into it ala the Pirates Movies-you remember oodles of action but it's a blue, for the most part. <p> Mikey Bay can get away w/ it because he's like that-but here-

  • March 16, 2009, 8:45 p.m. CST

    macguvyer teaser poster owns all

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell acGyver.png

  • March 16, 2009, 8:46 p.m. CST

    I didn't see Spidey 3 until it hit DVD. I dont regret it

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • March 16, 2009, 8:46 p.m. CST

    spiderman 3 was a overloaded, underdevolped goofy...

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    fucking shitfest.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:47 p.m. CST

    Did Charlie_Allnut say he WANTS another...

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    He wants another BAD BOYS movie? Wow. Okay. Um... wow.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:49 p.m. CST

    No really, Megan Fox is ugly. Would I fuck her? Of course.

    by dr sauch

    By that doesn't mean she's hot.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:50 p.m. CST

    Megan Fox---NOT ugly.

    by Sal_Bando

    Gimme a break.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    so you fuck ugly girls!?

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    good to know because we all do sometimes too. a boner just sometimes has to be tamed by a vagina sometimes, no matter if the girl looks like shit. ugly girls will find you on myspace and sometimes, you just gotta do what you gotta do. but when your done be SURE to delete her and block her from getting back to your profile. shallow? yes. rude? yes.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:54 p.m. CST

    But... Shia was GOOD in TF1!!!!!

    by jsarnold513

    OK, I know everyone hates him because he was Mutt Williams aka Henry "Scrappy Doo" Jones III, but he actually did quite well in TF at believably, soulfully interacting with a bunch of CG effects he couldn't see at the time. Indy IV's lameness was due more to a lousy script and crappy effects/stunt work than Shia's actual performance. As for Unicron, etc... I grew up with G1 TFs and love them, but I also thought the first movie was fun for what it was. Wherever they want to go with the 3rd one, I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. A Prime death/ressurrection would be nice. Headmasters/Targetmasters/Powermasters etc were fun toys, but the concept behind the characters is pretty redundant and stupid. It would be kinda neat to see Shia get "Luke Skywalker-ed" at some point in this trilogy, though. It would've been cool way to have hidden his injured hand in TF2.

  • March 16, 2009, 8:56 p.m. CST

    spiderman 3 = superman 3

    by BendersShinyAss

    altho I'd actually sit throu superman 3 right now if it was on

  • March 16, 2009, 8:57 p.m. CST

    Megan Fox... def NOT UGLY

    by jsarnold513

    OK, I know some actresses get made up to look a hell of a lot better onscreen than they do in real life. Cameron Diaz is a prime example. I don't doubt that Megan Fox isn't as unbelievably hot when she's running to Taco Bell at 3 AM in sweats and a t-shirt. But UGLY!?!?!?! Dude...

  • March 16, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST

    we have a winner.......

    by j2talk

    how can this fail....

  • March 16, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    Yeah, she sure is a real pig

    by misterk360

  • March 16, 2009, 9 p.m. CST

    Spiderman 3 = X3, only crappy

    by jsarnold513

    Seriously, were Tom Rothman and Stephen Sommers moonlighting for Sony on that one??? What a let down.

  • March 16, 2009, 9:01 p.m. CST

    dude have you seen the pics of megan fox out in public

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    when shes not done up? shes still insanely hot. and jessica alba is still hot without makeup too. god i want her vag in my mouth.

  • March 16, 2009, 9:03 p.m. CST

    TRANS4MERS: 2013!!!

    by Get_Me_An_18-Man_Fire_Team_In_12_Hours

    Megan Fox guarantees a Baysplosion in every pair of pants!!

  • March 16, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Transformers 3

    by Phategod2

    Should be set inside a actual Explosion. I swear if you tell that to Micheal Bay he will Literally Orgasm in delight.

  • March 16, 2009, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Cause it was originally meant as a trilogy right?

    by ribbitking

    It's so cool when you find out that a movie you love was actually meant to be a worthless shitty franchise to begin with!!! What's that? you thought it was a piece of shit!? Even Better!

  • March 16, 2009, 9:12 p.m. CST

    X Men didn't deserve a franchise

    by lockesbrokenleg

    It sucked from the start

  • March 16, 2009, 9:14 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius


  • March 16, 2009, 9:16 p.m. CST

    Fuck yes!

    by Amazing Maurice

    Another two years of Transformers Talkbacks. Bring it!

  • March 16, 2009, 9:24 p.m. CST



    I'll be there dripping my love all over the set, plus my pussy now has a hankerin' for giant robot penis, sorry.

  • March 16, 2009, 9:26 p.m. CST


    by Crow3711


  • March 16, 2009, 9:33 p.m. CST

    can we bring back the following things

    by Phategod2

    Don Murphy we need this guy back, Yackbacker to hate this franchise again and The return of superninja.

  • March 16, 2009, 9:33 p.m. CST

    I just want Mike Bay's SUPERMAN!

    by The_Genteel_Gentile

    NOT kidding. I know there's at least a couple of folks that agree (come out, come out, where ever you are!). <p> I'll take a Bad Boys 3 on the precondition that Mark Mancina is back on board as music composer (his themes MADE the first film). Bad Boys 2 completely floundered due to the lack of Mancina, amongst other things. I really believe a little judicious editing (throw out at least two action sequences) and a Mancina score could have saved it. But I think Bay would have to (and should have to) grovel for forgivness at the feet of Mark Mancina first, for what he did to him on BB2. <p> Dr. Dre leftover beats and a last second, third-rate Trevor Rabin score? "Ahh, that's sooo UUAAGLEE man...that's AAHHHGGH! AAUAGH!" - Dr. Gonzo (Benicio Del Toro)

  • March 16, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST

    oh and I forgot

    by Phategod2

    BringSexyback, and Brokebackcowboy I miss that guy.

  • March 16, 2009, 9:37 p.m. CST


    by VALENTINEproductions

    Transformers wasnt that bad. I enjoyed it. Just wish it was taken a lil more serious and had more mythology to it. Bad boys 2 wasnt that great and i wish theyd try at it again. The action for the most part was great.

  • March 16, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    more than meets the brown eye

    by GarbageDay

    i'm still holding out for the movie where megan fox transforms into the cocksucking, tit licking, cum guzzling, leg spreading, autoeroticabot she really is. with a deleated scene of her getting buttbanged by rodimus prime. oh yeah

  • March 16, 2009, 9:39 p.m. CST

    by GarbageDay

  • March 16, 2009, 9:40 p.m. CST

    i thought bad boys 2 was a great action movie

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    but it really didnt need to be 2 and a half hours. michael isnt suited for loved franchises and biographys. just big fucking action movies. tranformers almost worked but it was too god damn fuckin goofy.

  • March 16, 2009, 9:47 p.m. CST


    by finky089

    because T3NO! just doesn't cut it.

  • March 16, 2009, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay needs to do a "Lobo" movie!

    by jsarnold513

    It would be perfect for him. Or maybe X-Force, or Cable, or any of those other shitty "grim and gritty" comics from that early 90s fad! He was BORN to adapt them!

  • March 16, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST


    by frank cotton

    i wondered if you were still around - i've been 'indisposed' for a couple years

  • March 16, 2009, 9:55 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    BSB + brokebackcowboy = same guy

  • March 16, 2009, 10 p.m. CST

    you know I know that

    by Phategod2

    We also need Ganymede to say rediculous shit like "T3 will make 2 billion domestic, watch"

  • March 16, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST

    We owe it to AICN

    by Phategod2

    to make these Transfomers post Pop like they used to.

  • March 16, 2009, 10:11 p.m. CST

    The movies shitty directors should make

    by Dapper Swindler

    Michael Bay: Superman, Dragonball Z <p> Rob Zombie: Remake of Killer Klowns from Outer Space <p> Keep them away from everything else.

  • March 16, 2009, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Well, I know what movie I WON'T be seeing that weekend...

    by Bones

    ..and by that I mean Bayformers III: The Search For Plot. Well, Unless it was called Bayformers: Revenge of the Audience and it was just 2 hours of audience members getting to virtually beat the ever-loving s*it out of that hack director.<p> Can you kill a man with Nerf if you hit him long enough?

  • March 16, 2009, 10:16 p.m. CST


    by jerseycajun

    You make it sound like I should be excited, maybe? Well, I suppose a little now that I won't have to make the difficult decision to watch fireworks that weekend, or go to the movies. Sure took the work out of THAT decision.

  • March 16, 2009, 10:19 p.m. CST


    by Light_Tweaker

    He's doing it right now!

  • March 16, 2009, 10:25 p.m. CST


    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    True that on both counts.<P>(Don't know what happened to superninja. She just disappeared.)

  • March 16, 2009, 10:29 p.m. CST

    After the 2007 movies

    by Phategod2

    She Probably wacthed one went into a Coma. Poor Girl I thought her typing was Cute j/k.

  • March 16, 2009, 10:33 p.m. CST

    don't give a shit!! 2009!!

    by Jesiah

    disappointed by the first!! 2007!!.......then again it's Michael Bay, and just cuz Spielberg is producing doesn't mean we wouldn't be inundated with Bay-isms. These aren't Transformers movies. They're soldiers versus ugly robots movies that happen to have Peter Cullen in them. I wonder what tie-in pop song they'll have at the end of this one, I was sure surprised What I've Done closed the first one

  • March 16, 2009, 10:42 p.m. CST

    I just hope we get a Gonzo DP scene with Megan, Bumblebee

    by conspiracy

    and Optimus.</p><p> Megan can get on all fours, a position she is well familiar with I'm sure, and service Optimus as he utters incredible Orci penned lines like "Who's your robo daddy", as Bumblebee "interfaces" with her 3rd input before pulling out an "lubricating" on that insane Bulls Eye she has tattoo'd above her ass crack.</p><p> Come on you know you'd pay to see that...

  • March 16, 2009, 10:43 p.m. CST

    Craig Brewer in negotiations to direct....

    by Willie_Watkins

  • March 16, 2009, 10:44 p.m. CST

    Where's "Bad Boys 3??"

    by Evangelion217

    Is Bay waiting to make in the year 2015, and market it as the 20th anniversy for the "Bad Boys" franchise?? HAHAHA!

  • March 16, 2009, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Wouldn't it be cool...

    by DarthCorleone

    ...if Dungheap Part Two did not make a single dollar and Dungheap Part Three was cancelled?

  • March 16, 2009, 10:46 p.m. CST


    by Jesiah

    Imo shia wasn't "soulfully interracting" with anything in tf1. He was aight but "soulfully interracting"? Uh, no. And I don't think any one wants to see him get "Luke Skywalker-ed." There's a video of him in real life drunk calling another guy a fag and telling him to hit him. They should have a similar scene in the movie where he's drunk and eggs Bumblebee on to kick him. Bumblebee acquiesces (having had enough of being called the yellow pussy gobot who stole music made famous by Kill Bill) and kicks him hard into the atmosphere; shia haters are satisfied by seeing him slowly burn up in earth's atmosphere while critics praise the acting of an initially happy but then tortured and conflicted Bumblebee and the realistic facial expressions that are cgi rendered

  • March 16, 2009, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Where is the GI joe News

    by Phategod2

    I was expecting those Tb's to be as Epic But you GI joe fans are lame.

  • March 16, 2009, 10:50 p.m. CST

    Lashlarue: Come on , man-

    by Playkins

    Of course Transformers is going to do better. It's PG-13 to start with. It has a wider audience. It came out in the summer.<P> Asserting that it has something to do with the intelligence of everyone but you (which is exactly what you implied) is elitist and untrue.

  • March 16, 2009, 10:51 p.m. CST

    oh sorry jsarnold513

    by Jesiah

    When you meant "Luke Skywalker-ed" I assumed you meant turning someone whiny into someone self-assured. Having his hand chopped off is ok with everyone

  • March 16, 2009, 10:55 p.m. CST

    This is the problem with with studio pics...

    by Dominic-Vobiscum

    ...they rush to announce a date before doing ANY pre-production or hiring anyone and everything then comes secondary to getting it out on time. It's a product to be brought to market, not a film. This is exactly why Spiderman 3 sucked as hard as it did. That and I honestly believe that Raimi didn't give a shit. It's easier for me to believe THAT than to accept that the guy who made Spidey 2 could make Spidey 3 if he really cared.

  • March 16, 2009, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Dominic-Vobiscum: They have PLENTY of time.

    by Playkins

    From now: One year of Pre-production, six months TOPS of filming/production work, one year of post. STILL puts them out before July 4, 2011.

  • March 16, 2009, 11:03 p.m. CST

    actually thats september 2011

    by Phategod2

    2 year + present = march 2011 + 6 more months = 09/11.

  • March 16, 2009, 11:07 p.m. CST

    Also, where are all of SG's gallant defenders at?

    by Dominic-Vobiscum

    You know, those chivalrous young lads who rush to defend "the ladies" against the nasty misogynists of AICN when we dare point out that Script Girl is talentless and gets attention solely for her cleavage?<br><br>There's more objectification and anger towards women in this thread than all the SG talkbacks combined.<br><br I really hope some of you never breed.

  • March 16, 2009, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Phategod2: Gee, really?

    by Playkins

    Read my post a little more closely. I said it would still put it out BEFORE July 4th. Good try, tho.

  • March 16, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST


    by Dominic-Vobiscum

    Phategod2- As a major G.I. Joe fan I just stopped paying attention after the whole G.I.J.O.E. bullshit. I think all those Transformer fans who cry childhood rape and such secretly hope that Bay will get it right this time out...or the next. I have no such belief. I know Joe is going to be shit, so why rub feces in the wounds, eh? Playkins - The amount of time from announcement to release is inconsequential. The problem is that it's a sign that they aren't trying to make a good movie or tell a good story, they are trying to sell a product. As long as it gets into the theaters by the scheduled release date, they really don't care if it's good or bad, as long as they cover their costs and make a few extra bucks. Disposable entertainment for the 12-17 set. That's all they really want it to be.

  • March 16, 2009, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Damn brackets didn't work. Sorry.

    by Dominic-Vobiscum

    Phategod2- As a major G.I. Joe fan I just stopped paying attention after the whole G.I.J.O.E. bullshit. I think all those Transformer fans who cry childhood rape and such secretly hope that Bay will get it right this time out...or the next. I have no such belief. I know Joe is going to be shit, so why rub feces in the wounds, eh?<br><br> Playkins - The amount of time from announcement to release is inconsequential. The problem is that it's a sign that they aren't trying to make a good movie or tell a good story, they are trying to sell a product. As long as it gets into the theaters by the scheduled release date, they really don't care if it's good or bad, as long as they cover their costs and make a few extra bucks. Disposable entertainment for the 12-17 set. That's all they really want it to be.

  • March 16, 2009, 11:23 p.m. CST

    I know when *I* plan a movie...

    by CmdX

    I always pick an arbitrary but specific date years ahead of time without any firm commitments from the people who are actually involved in the series.<p>Cart before the horse

  • March 16, 2009, 11:31 p.m. CST

    That YouTube clip was more entertaining than the movie

    by Nasty In The Pasty

  • March 16, 2009, 11:36 p.m. CST


    by GregoryHarbin

    Read YOUR post again. I don't know in what crazy world your math works, but what Plat was pointing out was that March 09 plus two and a half years is September 2011, which is NOT before July, as you stupidly repeated.

  • March 16, 2009, 11:43 p.m. CST

    MIchael Bay

    by Timahh

    can suck all the dicks. Seriously dude you don't HAVE to shine a light right into the camera

  • March 16, 2009, 11:44 p.m. CST


    by Timahh

    he can eat all the dicks. sorry. I guess if he wants to do both i will permit it.

  • March 16, 2009, 11:45 p.m. CST


    by Phategod2

    But September comes out after July am i missing something are on those Post Aztec Calenders or something.

  • March 17, 2009, midnight CST

    Dominic-Vobiscum: "they are trying to sell a product"

    by Playkins

    Dude... it's a movie about TOYS. Of course that's what they are doing.

  • March 17, 2009, 12:02 a.m. CST

    Well Dominic-Vobiscum that answer is simple

    by tbransonlives

    SG's defenders are SG's friends. Meagan Fox's friends don't visit aicn.

  • March 17, 2009, 12:05 a.m. CST


    by Playkins

    Phate: You were right, I was wrong(as I stated it). Truthfully I was working under the assumption that they are already a long ways into pre-production or pre-vis if they are announcing a date.<P> GregoryHarbin: See above. Yeah, I didn't explain myself well. Thanks for calling me stupid for it.

  • March 17, 2009, 12:08 a.m. CST

    Bad Boys III: Revenge of the BALLLLLLLLIINNNNNNNNNN'

    by 35MinutesAgo

    Starring Lil Wayne as Martin Lawrence, Will Smith as Lil Wayne, and Shia LaBeouf as Mike Lowrey

  • March 17, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Playkins is stupid.

    by 35MinutesAgo

    I wish I could unread all of his posts, but I will settle for calling him stupid.

  • March 17, 2009, 12:13 a.m. CST


    by Orionsangels

    Let's put more numbers in sequel titles! Wow you're so 21st century!

  • March 17, 2009, 12:16 a.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay

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    by FuckMichaelBay

  • March 17, 2009, 12:16 a.m. CST


    by FuckMichaelBay

  • March 17, 2009, 12:17 a.m. CST

    I'm in business 'til at least 2011! Whooopeeeee!!!!!!

    by FuckMichaelBay


  • March 17, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST

    How does Michael Bay find time for movies?

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    As he's always too busy snorting coke off Megan Fox to care.

  • March 17, 2009, 12:39 a.m. CST

    35Minutes is a cruel, cruel boy.

    by Playkins

    How could you?

  • March 17, 2009, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Phategod, how dare you question my clarivoyance.

    by ganymede3010

    Ha, I was dead on when I predicted that TF1 would eviscerate the box-office. As for ROTF, it has a very good chance at eclipsing the 1 billion mark. You heard it here first folks.

  • March 17, 2009, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Geenteel, I agree MB for Superman reboot!

    by ganymede3010

    I couldn't imagine the insurmountable spectacle that would engulf the silver screen if MB was given the reigns to this stagnant, and underwhelming franchise.

  • March 17, 2009, 12:51 a.m. CST

    The good old days of TF Talkbacks?

    by Hairy Nutsack<p><p> Ask and ye shall receive Phategod. I wish I could participate like I did back then. Fortunately I'm one of the few people in California that still has a job. (No thanks to Barack and Arnie, fuckwits.)<p> So no more Don Murphy fights eh Phate? What a shame, you became a fucking legend with those exchanges, and I'm proud to have been there to have seen much of it. Cheers fellas!

  • March 17, 2009, 12:52 a.m. CST


    by southafricanguy

    I agree with you 100%. I am damn sure rotf will come close to if not hit the 1 billion mark (wether we all like it or not)The first movie created a huge new fan base for transformers. Lets remember that it broke 700 mil worlwide and then sold huge on dvd and was huge with rentals. making interest in a sequal even bigger. Plus lets take into account how big that trailer looks. This movie (wether in any way an imorovement over the original or ju7st more of the same) will have a huge amount of spectacle and action. people will flock to see this. Transformers will probably become Star Wars big after rotf. (please note that i am not making comments to its quality, nor am i comparing tf with SW on a quality basis)

  • March 17, 2009, 1:01 a.m. CST

    trans4mers won't get too big

    by Jesiah

    It'll be like the ninja turtles movies...1st one does well but then it's downhill...and I loved the ninja son and his elementary school is more excited by t4 and wolverine than this...they're excited yeah but this movie series is already starting to lose it's novelty with its (the movie franchise not the original series) base demographic

  • March 17, 2009, 1:06 a.m. CST offence dude but a survey among your

    by southafricanguy

    sons elementary school does nt really prove anything. That is just an attitude amongst one small sample group. You could do that at several different elementary schools and get several very different results. Its called demographics..I majored in Sociological research at university dude, so i (for once lol) know what im talking about

  • March 17, 2009, 1:27 a.m. CST

    TF3 needs Megan Fox and an NC-17 rating.

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Box office gold.

  • March 17, 2009, 1:29 a.m. CST


    by Dominic-Vobiscum

    I think it will replicate the success of the first one, but be about the same. Mainly because the situation isn't that different from Summer 2007 with a bunch of big movies frontloaded into May, and TF all by itself (other than romantic comedies and other slight films) for almost month with no other big action film to compete against until Harry Potter opens 3 weeks later.<br><br> Star Trek, Night at the Museum 2, T4, Up...all will be over a month old by the time TF2 opens. The only thing that could hurt it's take would be Land of the Lost (which I doubt it could) and even that will be 3 weeks old when TF2 opens.

  • March 17, 2009, 1:33 a.m. CST

    HMM,maybe dominic

    by southafricanguy

    but I really think the first expanded the fan base way beyond its old one. And it will be advertised and hyped to death. People will go see it in droves. Think matrix reloaded, dead mans chest etc..

  • March 17, 2009, 2:02 a.m. CST

    *plop x 3*

    by Dingbatty

  • March 17, 2009, 2:13 a.m. CST

    No writer? No worries!

    by mrevilbreakfast

    They haven't hired a writer for this? That's ok, they didn't hire one for the first TF flick either.

  • March 17, 2009, 2:14 a.m. CST

    Youtube video down!!!

    by Laya Maheshwari

    what was it about anyway?

  • March 17, 2009, 3 a.m. CST

    SPIDERMAN 3?...


    ....don't get me started-never a film before I was so bummed after seeing-the quality compared to 2 was severly lacking. So much crap they could have cut-singing, dancing, crying. Peformances phoned in etc etc. Can anyone tell me a movie besides this one where the CGI actually looks a lot cheaper than the one before it? (str8 to DVD not incl). Just hope they go back to the drawing board with no.4...

  • March 17, 2009, 3:49 a.m. CST

    Transformers: Pimpbot 5000

    by JoeSixPack

    He combines the classic sensibilities of a 1950s robot with the dynamic flair of a 1970s street pimp. Written and Directed by Conan O'Brien starring Andy Richter as the title character.

  • March 17, 2009, 3:55 a.m. CST


    by MorganLeafy

    Hopefully Optimus Prime can destroy some Somalian villages in this one. Bless you, Michael Bay

  • March 17, 2009, 3:55 a.m. CST

    Don't you mean SPID3RMAN?

    by Orionsangels

  • March 17, 2009, 4:10 a.m. CST


    by SuperJim17

    Shia fucking rocks and you know it Merrick! Who wants to watch two hours of cgi kicking the shit out of more cgi- we need a human to have some connection with and his dorky schtick was hilarious. I for one- would would upfuck Optimus if it meant giving 'The Beef' some more screentime!

  • March 17, 2009, 4:48 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    Who gives a fuck about TRANSFORMERS 3 and more blurry fucking fights between robots we never get to see properly, and some annoying wiseass and his "NONONONONONONONONO!!!" schtick? WHO GIVES A FUCK?<P> Give me another Will Smith and Martin Lawrence epic, and take the only good thing about TRANSFORMERS (Megan Fox's body) and put it in BAD BOYS III!<P> WILL SMITH + MARTIN LAWRENCE + BAYHEM + MEGAN FOX'S TITS + 'SPLOSIONS = EPIC FUCKING WIN!!!

  • March 17, 2009, 5:11 a.m. CST


    by Sal_Bando

    C'mon THINK of the possibilities. And know TRUE Fear. I'd watch it I would! <p> Big Robots. Bigger explosions. And Shia getting to intone-and I quothe-NONONoNONONONONONONONONONONO! C'mon who doesn't wanna see that again-

  • March 17, 2009, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Transformers needs a new director

    by TinSpider

    ...Like someone who actually gives a shit about Transformers as a group of characters, not a vehicle of mass consumerism.

  • March 17, 2009, 6:35 a.m. CST

    I challenge Michael Bay to do a Dogma 95 film

    by ricarleite

    He would end up killing himself in the process.

  • March 17, 2009, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Baltimore's Senator Theater closes...

    by Blanket-Man

    It's supposed to be auctioned off soon...

  • March 17, 2009, 7:04 a.m. CST

    TRAN5FORMERS - 2015

    by kwisatzhaderach

  • March 17, 2009, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Will Kurtzman/Orci write it?

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I love their dialogue and well-written screenplays. I'm so looking forward to their 're-imagining' of Star Trek. It's going to be so good!

  • March 17, 2009, 7:32 a.m. CST


    by southafricanguy

    yOUR sarcasm is damn scathing, well done sir. Well i hope you are wrong about Trek, that trailer is damn cool and I would so love to see a truly epic great Trek movie.

  • March 17, 2009, 7:38 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    It's a dust-swept plain, here on this bare set. Over here, this is where the abandoned ex-Army base would have been. Megan enters here, to deliver her heart breaking monologue on the existential loneliness of the promiscuous modern female in a Western world floundering under liberalism and seeking to reverse the freedoms it has for so long protected.<P> **Bay wipes sweat from his brow**<P> Here is where Shia will enter, minus his shoes. This will symbolise that America has gone back to its original transitory state, that as a country it seeks to return to its early innocence, its best intentions.<P> And then A HUUUUGE FUCK-OFF MONSTER ROBOT COMES FUCKING FLYING THROUGH THIS WALL, ONLITERATING FUCKING EVERYTHING IN ITS PATH IN A CGI BLURRED FRENZY OF TOTAL FUCKING DETRUCTION!!!<P> "Apologies, Mr Bay. You have exceeded the parameters of Dogme 95. we must ask you to leave the program."<P> "NYEEEEEEEOOWWWMMMM BADADADADADA!!! PSCHKKKKGGHHHH! ACKAKAKAKAKAK!!! KER-BOOOOOOMMM!!!"<p> Michael Bay presents TRANSFORMED: DOGME 09. With added BAYHEM!!!

  • March 17, 2009, 7:39 a.m. CST

    Transformers is internet movie fanboy rage personified

    by The Amazing G

    if Micheal Bay shot himself in the head with an evoker his persona would be....Transformers

  • March 17, 2009, 7:44 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    When I first saw the latest trailer, and actualy listened to Bruce Greenwood's voice-over... DEAR GOD THAT WAS FUCKING LAME!<P> "So... you're a lone wolf, a maverick, seeking for something to belong to, something with hot chicks to bang, cool weaponry and gadgetry, something that lets you KILL LOADS OF FUCKING FOREIGNERS! We have that, son. We are Starfleet."<P> "Frak you and frak your Starfleet, drokker!"<P> "Ah, you're just a rebellious young pup, aren't you? We'll just give you a ship to run after you've laterally thought your way around the Kobayashi Maru paradox. And then we'll kick off this reboot without thinking about how little charisma you have next to the godlike Denny Crane - I mean, Shat the Man!"<P> "Drokk you, snecker!"<P> "Don't worry, young Chris Pine. If Paul Walker gets delusion of actordom again, there's always a place for you in THE FAST AND THE EXTREEEEEEEME franchise. Neal Moritz is INSAAAAAANEly stoked to meet you."<P> "Oh, and the sequel? We got Shia for Khan. Ain't no thing, homey. G-FIIIIIIIVE!"<P> **dances like an old man to the strains of LOW by Flo-Rida""

  • March 17, 2009, 7:44 a.m. CST

    You want Megan there, and Shia gone?

    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Yeah... even if I think Eagle Eye sucked ass, Shia is a pretty good actor. And Megan Fox is... I won't say 'not attractive', but I hardly think she's the only person who could pull off that role. Any half-attractive woman could do the exact same 'performance.'

  • March 17, 2009, 8:12 a.m. CST

    good priorities

    by Mr Gorilla

    get the date first, then get some special effects, cast it, film it, then maybe mid-editing think about maybe EMPLOYING A WRITER TO WRITE A GODDAMN SCRIPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • March 17, 2009, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Changing into a giant cassette player...

    by StatelyWayneManor

    Boom! Crash! Kerranng! Repeat. I just saved y'all $10 bucks. Its a movie about alien robots! Relax.

  • March 17, 2009, 8:14 a.m. CST

    on a side note....

    by The Amazing G

    you know what's a good movie? Blue Thunder

  • March 17, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    what if Bay did the Evangelion movie?

    by The Amazing G

    with Shia as Shinji and Fox as Asuka?

  • March 17, 2009, 9:24 a.m. CST

    The Amazing G

    by kwisatzhaderach

    "Catch you later."

  • March 17, 2009, 9:25 a.m. CST

    The Amazing G

    by ricarleite


  • March 17, 2009, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Merrick, Bay says 2012 not 2011

    by Tobiwise "I said I was taking off a year from Transformers. Paramount made a mistake in dating Transformers 3 - they asked me on the phone - I said yes to July 4 - but for 2012 - whoops! Not 2011!!! That would mean I would have to start prep in September. No way. My brain needs a break from fighting robots. Michael" Might want to update the article.

  • March 17, 2009, 10 a.m. CST

    wow..a picture being greenlit before anyone signed??

    by Six Demon Bag

    that's pretty cocky for a film that's not out yet

  • March 17, 2009, 10:27 a.m. CST

    I don't know what you guys are smoking...

    by Carpet_Pisser

    What I would do to Megan Fox would make Satan himself look away in shock. Seriously, would I marry the girl. Probably not. Would I do things to her that are better left unmention, oh hell yes. That girl looks like she can take a dick (or three and throw in an extra pussy for good measure), and is proud of her dick taking skills.

  • March 17, 2009, 10:28 a.m. CST

    Ok, just read my comment....

    by Carpet_Pisser

    And I am in no way advocating that the Carpet Pisser wants to have a fourway with Megan Fox and two other dudes. Just saying I bet the girl could put some pornstars to shame.

  • March 17, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST


    by Mullah Omar

    I support this only if Dench keeps the same wardrobe Fox is using. Bonus points if nobody acknowledges the swap. This would be so weird and wrong that it might make me respect Michael Bay.

  • March 17, 2009, 10:33 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Zeddemore

    Yeah, but you aren't going to have sex with a projected image of Megan Fox. Ergo, your desire to roger her has nothing to do with whether she should be starring in this film.

  • March 17, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST

    Shit Optimus! You so fly!

    by Charlie_Allnut

    Yo! Thanks Rat! Know what I'm sayin dawg? Know what I'm sayin? Yo the Decepticons were tryin to get all gangsta on me and I was like Sheeeeit! Heeeell naw! Know what I'm sayin, know what I'm sayin? On the bright side that would get the Rat off of Conan!

  • March 17, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    And THAT is why Harry ewill NEVER have an Edit function on these Talkbacks. He loves reading these Freudian slips too.<P> Hey, you enjoy that foursome with Megan, and Nigella, and Shia... ;P

  • March 17, 2009, 10:34 a.m. CST


    by BurgerTime

    That's why it sucked. It was just about fattening Sony's bottom line, packing Raimi's bank with cash, setting up Toby McGuire for life, etc.... <p> You can get all the cameras and sets and toys in the world to make your movie, but if the right motivation isn't there from the start (ie. at least trying to tell a half-entertaining story) then it will BOMB.

  • March 17, 2009, 10:42 a.m. CST

    spud mcspud

    by Carpet_Pisser

    Thanks. I'll let you know if I am able to fend Shia away from my virgin ass!

  • March 17, 2009, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Mr. Zeddemore

    by Carpet_Pisser

    Really, what does the role require. It is a movie about big fucking robots fighting. It doesn't require Meryl Streep or Judi Dench. Just a hot sweaty chick running from Robots is good enough for me! <p>A question though, why is it when a chick is all sweaty I fuck her like mad. But when I get back from playing basketball, the wife won't touch me?

  • March 17, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Merrick needs to...

    by 420 Boylston St

    fuck off on the Brett Ratner slams. Whatever Brett has done to you guys, probably didn't give you shitheads a free pass to see his movie and has a huge hard on slamming him, I think time has passed. Brett is decent filmmaker and he's made some fun films LIKE MICHAEL BAY. I know it sucks you don't have the talent to ever make a good movie in hollywood but don't be jealous of someone who is kicking ass in the business. Can't wait for Ratner's Beverly Hills Cop IV

  • March 17, 2009, 10:52 a.m. CST

    Ratner would be better than Bay

    by photoboy

    At least if he had made TINO1 he wouldn't have changed the designs and back story.

  • March 17, 2009, 10:54 a.m. CST

    Transformers 4 + 5 in 2014!!!

    by HerbWestAustin

    And part 5 + 6 in 2015!!!! Fuck Michael Bay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • March 17, 2009, 10:55 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    "A question though, why is it when a chick is all sweaty I fuck her like mad. But when I get back from playing basketball, the wife won't touch me?"<P> The answer? ROBERT PATTINSON. It's his fucking fault that now women think a good looking guy is hairless on the chest, androgynous, has cheekbones you could use to slice ham, and has no perspiratory glands whatsoever.<P> Such women usually discover, too late, that such men do not exist... and the ones who do aren't interested in women, if you catch my drift ;D

  • March 17, 2009, 10:56 a.m. CST


    by Mr. Zeddemore

    I'm not saying it requires a 'great' actress, but I don't think Megan Fox contributes anything looks wise that half a dozen other actresses couldn't go. <p> Ergo, she's not really that vital to the success.

  • March 17, 2009, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Rat-fucking-formers? No. Fucking. Way.

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    Why not hire Paul Verhoeven and make Transmorph3rs a fucking epic R-rated TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION-fest?<p>WE NEED MORE R-RATED ACTION MOVIES! No more pussified PG-13 bullshit!

  • March 17, 2009, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Merrick, why are u spreading misinformation.

    by ganymede3010

    There's no way in Hell that Spielberg would allow Ratner anywhere near this franchise.

  • March 17, 2009, 11:06 a.m. CST

    And why not make BAD BOYS III instead?

    by Motoko Kusanagi


  • March 17, 2009, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Mr. Zeddemore

    by Carpet_Pisser

    Fair enough. I think she fits the bill fine. Robots + girl to masturbate to + explosions = good enough for me to spend my money on. Really don't care if she is in it or not, just saying she is nice eye candy. To me at least.

  • March 17, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST


    by spud mcspud

    I'm in utter agreement. With due respect to Zeddemore - hola, fellow PROFESSIONAL!! - I'm still stunned that ANYONE on here thinks there are hotter women in Hollywood today than Megan Fox. If she's not your type, fair enough - but how can Megan Fox NOT be anyone's type?<P> Pisser, we may be only two people on this TB who truly recognise the awesomeness that is the sex goddess Megan Fox. I have sooooo many ways to fuck Miss Fox, it'd be the LORD OF THE RINGS to the Kama Sutra's HOBBIT.<P> As a once-great Talkbacker once said on a different Megan Fox TB, way back in the mists of time:<P> I WOULD FUCK HER WITH A FURY EVEN THE GODS CANNOT FATHOM!!!

  • March 17, 2009, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Merrick, You're welcome

    by Tobiwise

    Don't mention it.

  • March 17, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST


    by Merrick

    Nothing personal at all - just happened to receive multiple e-mails about it. :-/ But...THANK YOU. Very much appreciated.

  • March 17, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    I'd Love to see Bad Boys 3

    by Uncle_Bryn

    Will Smith and Martin Lawrence work brilliantly in those films

  • March 17, 2009, 11:37 a.m. CST

    spud mcspud

    by Carpet_Pisser

    Well said sir. Well said.

  • March 17, 2009, 11:39 a.m. CST

    What's the difference?

    by jimmy rabbitte

    His brain has been on a break, since he started his first shoot. Nobody watches this guy's stuff for the elaborate subtext anyway.

  • March 17, 2009, 11:44 a.m. CST

    I'll just not see them, and pretend those were never made.

    by ricarleite

  • March 17, 2009, 11:47 a.m. CST

    You need a permanent Break form these films Michael

    by Judge_Dredd

    Get someone to start from scratch.

  • March 17, 2009, 12:01 p.m. CST

    My bad

    by Tobiwise

    I figured I wouldn't be the only one sending you that, sorry if I came off sounding like a douche.

  • March 17, 2009, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Ratner comes on board...

    by TheMarineBiologist

    ...decides that he should kill Optimus Prime in the first five minutes, make Shia kill Megan Fox, and then permanently transform Megatron into a failed hairdryer, all while spouting that Transformers sucks and he doesn't understand why anyone likes it.

  • March 17, 2009, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Update: Bay To Direct 4th Movie in Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn

    by Get_Me_An_18-Man_Fire_Team_In_12_Hours

    Now with vampires EXPLODING in sunlight, like God intended!

  • March 17, 2009, 12:43 p.m. CST

    2012 is better anyway...

    by zinc_chameleon

    The Transformers can end by destroying the planet, and then movie-goers can go outside, ready for the *real* Armageddon. Who said movies aren't educational? Oh. And the new director will be: UWE BOLL! We Canadians have spoken!

  • March 17, 2009, 1 p.m. CST

    Kevin Smith can direct Transformers III

    by StatelyWayneManor

    Shia and Megan outside the Quik-Stop talking about Go-Bots.

  • March 17, 2009, 1:13 p.m. CST


    by Playhouse

    Sad thing is a Ratner Transformers would probably be infinitely more entertaining than a Bay Transformers.

  • March 17, 2009, 1:23 p.m. CST

    Sommers will do it if Bay won't.

    by Sal_Bando

    You know I'm right.

  • March 17, 2009, 1:28 p.m. CST

    Just as long as it is released before 12/21/2012...

    by Leafar the Lost

    ...which is the End of the World!

  • March 17, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    AzulTool-And 'Bay's Angels'

    by TedKordLives

    Nice. Very meta. Hey, has anyone noticed that Bay has a 'type' when it comes to women? I caught the first Bad Boys on tv the other day and I'll be damned if Tea Leoni wasn't made up to look like a proto-Megan Fox. And then you've got, in the Rock, Nic Cage's girlfriend and Connery's daughter, both striking brunettes. I think Bay has found his muse. Look for Fox in all of Bay's movies henceforth. And look for me masturbating furiously in a corner. With peanut butter.

  • March 17, 2009, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Cool Director Ideas for T3

    by mrpenguin85

    If Michael Bay doesn't come back for the third installment, I think it would be a good idea for James Cameron to direct.

  • March 17, 2009, 1:50 p.m. CST


    by TedKordLives

    Yeah, but one could say that of any movie. That's like saying, "I think it would be a good idea to have Shakespeare write a play." Sorry, usually don't pick on people here, but that's just a little too on the nose. And I'm a little too hungover.

  • March 17, 2009, 1:57 p.m. CST


    by HoboCode

    Pull my finger.

  • March 17, 2009, 2 p.m. CST

    Jeez Hobo

    by TedKordLives

    One note hack much? Blue Beetle would beat your amateur ass. (See what I did there? Prolly not.)

  • March 17, 2009, 2:09 p.m. CST


    by 1978CreepyThinMan

    In the 1980's the Reagan Administration ushered in the widespread de-regulation and removal of anti-trust laws that were put in place after the Great Depression to prevent companies from monopolizing various industries and creating the type of TOO BIG TO FAIL companies that have now created the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression itself. In regards to the decline of North American cinema it’s like this. With the HUGE success of movies like Jaws and Star Wars various money grubbing Wall Street types moved into the Hollywood system and reshaped the major studio’s into Corporate entities where the goal was no longer to just make movies and inspire friendly competition the way that proper capitalism is supposed to work. No, Wall Street style capitalism is about increasing market share by buying out or killing off the competition so that a few people/companies control everything which is closer to communism if you think about it. So, how did they go about this? By buying off politicians they were able to first get rid of the tax shelters that allowed low budget independent filmmakers and studio’s to raise money from private investors. Without these tax shelters people like George A. Romero (Night of the Living Dead/Dawn of the Dead), Tobe Hooper (The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Poltergeist), Sam Raimi (The Evil Dead and Spider-man Triologies), Brain DePalma (Carrie, Scarface, The Untouchables), Martin Scorsese (Taxi Driver/Raging Bull/Goodfellas), Francis Ford Coppola (The Godfather 1 & 2, Apocalypse Now) etc.. wouldn’t have been able to raise the money to make their first features. Canada offered a 100% tax shelter system for investment in movie production in the 70’s and that lasted until the 80’s. Without that Ivan Reitman (Meatballs/Stripes/Ghostbusters) and David Cronenberg (The Fly/Naked Lunch/Crash) wouldn’t have been able to make their first films Cannibal Girls and Shivers respectively. Also, in the USA, before the deregulation and removal of the anti-trust laws, studios weren’t allowed to by up movie theatres or chains to create a monopoly. So what you had were thousands of theatres and theatre chains across North America and all those companies cared about was their box office revenue. So they would book anything that made money. If you made a low budget movie you could book it into a theatre and since the Motion Picture Association of America - MPAA was a joke back in those days you could show just about anything in theatres as in evidence of Deep Throat playing not just in porn houses but even in respectable theatres all across the country not to mention the grindhouses that played an endless stream of Horror and exploitation flicks day and night. If your movie was good and made money you could use that money to make more prints and advertise across the city, state or even the whole country if your movie was a hit. This is how AIP, Roger Corman and later New Line Cinema and Troma operated for decades, that is, until the 80’s. Now the deregulation/anti-trust laws removal (from here on in referred to as DR/ARL) wasn’t the only reason for the decline of audience attendance in the 80’s. VCR’s made it possible to rent movies and watch them from the comfort of your own home. As a result thousands of theatres and a few chains went under. Mostly these were the single venue style theatres with one screen where they would play double and triple bills and alternatively use the theatres for rock shows, stage productions etc… But the second thing was that after the DR/ARL, the major studios were allowed to buy up theatre chains and individual mom and pop theatres with the intent of shutting them down. The 1980’s saw the rise of the multi-plex, most of which were built by the major studios and a few other companies that operated such as Famous Players or Odeon Cinemas as an example up here in Canada. They were built with maximum comfort and convenience but had as much personality as your average McDonalds in comparison to a family operated restaurant. Now because these chains were all owned by corporations they would only do business with each other and book only each others movies as well as their own, effectively shutting out any independent studio’s or producers. By the late 80’s most of the independents had been killed off so now it was mostly the majors with the exception of a few studios that survived because they had highly profitable franchises (New Line and the Nightmare on Elm Street series) or they distributed some low budget independent, art-house and European films (Miramax with The Crying Game, El Mariachi, Resevoir Dogs etc…) to the single art-house theatres scattered across the country and because those movies made soo much money and received soo much national critical attention from Siskel & Ebert etc.. even the corporate owned theatre chains started booking them because money is still money. So how does the MPAA tie into this and the decline of balls out American Cinema? It’s because Hollywood is always the target of right wing mouthpiece’s and various religious organizations across the country as witnessed by the ridiculous uproar by the moral majority over movies such as Dogma, Kids, Natural Born Killers etc…. in the 90’s or if you really want to go back in time you could find examples of this with almost every single successful film made during the entire history of cinema that features any sort of violent or sexual content. Look up the Hays Code and watch some pre-code movies made in the 20’s and early 30’s and you’ll notice how much more violent, sexual and lurid movies like the original Scarface and Mystery of the Wax Museum were for the time and how North American cinema went through a period of melodramatic puritanism that lasted from the 30’s (with the exception of a few underground films) and only ended with the collapse of the studio system in the late 60’s which ushered in the most fertile era in American cinema history as a result of filmmakers being allowed to realistically and unrealistically portray sex, violence and real or not-so real life like never before. During this period the political and religious freaks bitched about all the sex and violence but their complaints didn’t catch any traction especially with all the political turmoil of the era and the fact that Government violence against it’s citizens (the Kent State shootings) and the global imperialism/war mongering (Vietnam) made Government criticisms of Hollywood on behalf of religious furor a moot point. After Jimmy Carter lost the presidency because he inherited the dismal economy of the post-Vietnam era and dared to tell America the truth, the American public stuck their heads up their collective asses and voted in an ex-actor who was the straight man to a chimp as President of the United States. But Ronald Reagan only got into power because the Republican Party aligned themselves with various snake oil salesmen such as Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Jimmy Swaggart and their mindless followers creating the Moral Majority movement of the 80’s of which it’s existence was to paper over all of the ugliness going on in the USA and promoted the fantasy that America was a land of rainbows, puppies and sold their bullshit with all the tenacity of a used car salesman selling a rusted out shitbox with a fresh paint job. This gave the religious right more power then they had in decades and made politicians live in fear for their political lives. Once again the religious freaks put their attention onto Hollywood because all of that sex and violence was polluting their Good Christian country. So they put the screws to politicians, mostly those from the Redneck States, who then came down on Hollywood and threatened to dismantle the major studio’s monopoly by reinstating those tax shelters and the DR/ATL. It’s at this point that the religious right gained almost complete control over what got shown in theatres across North America but they couldn’t implement their control in the style of the Hays code for fear of being labeled as CENSORS so they operated in virtual anonymity under the MPAA. It’s under this system that the MPAA and the major studio’s were able to kill off independents. The scam worked like this, you’re a low budget independent Director, Producer or Studio. You make money by making the type of movies that the majors don’t such as Horror and exploitation with outrageous sex and violence. The major studios are only interested in the only two types of movies they know how and want to make, glossy big budget extravaganzas and worthy Oscar winners. They think it’s beneath them to make Horror and exploitation films with gratuitous gore and sex except for when it’s being done by a major Hollywood actor, producer or director in which case the MPAA seems to have no problem with slapping the film with a family seal of approval R-rating. They used to distribute the occasional low budget shocker or sex flick, such as the Friday the 13th series which was distributed by Paramount or Porky’s which 20th Century Fox put out, but the ire of so called “respected” critics like Siskel & Ebert along with the political pressure from the religious right forced studio’s like Paramount/Fox to stop distributing low budget gore and sex flicks which is why they sold the F13th series to New Line while Fox eventually gave up on sex comedies. Anyway, you’re an independent Director, Producer, Studio who’s made “Teenage Lesbian Orgy in the Girls Locker Room of Gore” and you’re looking to distribute it. In the 70’s if the moves was good, or at the very least had plenty of entertaining sex and violence, you could put it out on a small scale and expand statewide and nationally if the movie is successful as I previously mentioned. The problem is that because the Reagan administration removed the DR/ANL, the studio’s now own 90% of the theatres across the country and won’t distribute your movie because it doesn’t have the Siskel & Ebert types across the country slobbering over it and they don’t want the headache of enraging the religious right. So what are your options? Well, there might be some small chains, mom and pop theatres that you could distribute to but there are issues when it comes to the rating of your movie and how that effects your ability to promote your epic. The situation is this, you take your magnum opus to the MPAA to get an R-Rating, now an R-Rating in the USA and the system itself is designed to censor without the appearance of censorship. An R-Rating means that no one under the age of eighteen can enter a particular movie without someone over the age of eighteen, BUT, the catch is that if you’re over eighteen you can bring anyone of any age into the theatre with you. That means that some dipshit eighteen year old, which DO exist and they are many, can bring a ten year old child into the theatre to see “Nudist Amazonian Warrior Interracial Dyke Cannibals of Sodomy” which will no doubt turn the impressionable ten year old into a peace-loving- gay-commie-pinko-liberal-Marxist-serial killing-rapist-transexual-who-wants-Communist-socialist-Free-Health-Care-and-less-money-spent-on-the-military-to-finance-better-education-and-alleviate-poverty-to-bring-about-a-new-age-of-Universal-utopia-which-will-allow-the-human-race-to-look-towards-the-stars-and-expand-our-spieces-across-the-galaxy-for-eternity-untill-the-end-of-creation….and that’s bad. So in order to Protect The Children™ and receive an R-rating the MPAA tells you to cut your film BUT they wont tell you what to cut because then they could be accused of censorship. They’ll just let you know when they see it. So you cut a few frames and trip a scene here or there and they tell you to keep cutting. You go back and forth until you scream in frustration about what else you need to fucking cut and they tell you that it’s not the footage as per say but the “tone” of it and how it’s this or that. The point is to get you to water down your movie until all its commercial elements (i.e. The Fucking and Killing) no longer exist and you have a movie that has an R-rating but won’t make a penny in theaters because your flick wasn’t that good to begin with and all you had was the nudity and gore. Now you could try to release it unrated which a lot of movies did up until the 80’s and many were highly successful such as Dawn of the Dead but that was when you had those independently owned theatre chains and mom & pop theatres that would play your movie even without a rating and you could still mount an advertising campaign to let the public know about your flick. Even in the 80’s there were still a few theatres left that would play un-rated movies the only problem is that with media consolidation all of the newspapers, TV stations and magazines were controlled by a few corporations and those corporations had political ties to the religious right etc, etc… so they would refuse to run advertisements of your un-rated movie and in those pre-internet days that meant that you were shit out of luck and no one would know about your masterpiece. The only other option was to tell the MPAA to fuck off and refuse to cut your movie in which case it would be given an X-Rating which effectively put it into the category of Pornography and no theatres would play it apart from porn houses and even those were being killed off by the VRC revolution of the 80’s. So without a means of finance, distribution or publicity this is how most of the independents went out of business in the 1980’s which is why North American cinema has been sliding into the shitter for the last quarter of a century as a result of corporate greed, religious fanaticism and political scumfuckery. Today not much has changed and it seems like a miracle when a good movie gets made and released in North America but they are few and far between. The great hope is the internet, on-line distribution and digital downloading but there are two main issues. The first is that without financing most independent movies today are shot on video cheapies that offer very little in the way quality scripts, production value or even competence although occasionally you get a good cheesy film like Lost Skeleton of Cadavra, The Janitor and Blood Car. The second problem is how do you make money off something that people can get on-line for free from torrent sites? The answer is to make a good movie against the odds and hope that people like your movie enough to want to buy the DVD but those odds are against you and as long as Hollywood maintains its corporate monopoly on national theatrical distribution, North American cinema will never recover.

  • March 17, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    raise your hand if your read all of that

    by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell

    if your hand is up, i just dont know what to tell you...

  • March 17, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    No-one can do explosions and big robots like Michael Bay!

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    And not a shit-fest like Iron Man. Jon Favreau can only fucking dream!

  • March 17, 2009, 2:17 p.m. CST

    BTW... told you Michael Bay is too busy for 2011

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    His plans are Megan Fox, Lube and Cocaine.

  • March 17, 2009, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay = Porn Director

    by TurdontheRun

    And he'd be a damn good one, too - exploding slow-mo jizz, shakey cam fucking, close ups of giant clits, and no plot to speak of (and in this case we wouldn't care).<p>Bay, I think we've found your true calling.

  • March 17, 2009, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Is this troll posting that in every TB?

    by TheMarineBiologist

    Jesus Fucking Christ, man...<p> You know what killed cinema? The Reference Movie series...

  • March 17, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay needs four years for the next movie

    by hst666

    What an asshole. I am always against studios announcing tentpoles without clearing it with the director, but the studio in this case chose a perfectly reasonable three-year gap. I was pissed about Iron Man 2, for example. Why the Hell does Bay need so long.

  • March 17, 2009, 2:34 p.m. CST


    by 1978CreepyThinMan

  • March 17, 2009, 2:38 p.m. CST

    I read all of it.

    by TedKordLives

    And agree wholeheartedly. I just wonder what kind of dude posts his thesis on a geek news site.

  • March 17, 2009, 2:39 p.m. CST

    but seriously cable TV, Atari and and vcrs killed cinema

    by Darth_Inedible

    If the money and the market had been able to sustain a '70s style film environment it would have continued. Hollywood turned to Blockbusters in the 80s because at that point people were too busy watching cable, using VCRs and playing video games to sit through Midnight Rider III or whatever.

  • March 17, 2009, 2:40 p.m. CST


    by TedKordLives

    I'm with you. Unofficially, I'm a 1979CreepyThinMan, so you got one guy at your back. Watchmen has awoken me to certain realities, and I'm ready to fucking fight.

  • March 17, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST

    Ratnerwould actually be an improvement

    by Han Cholo

    Because maybe we'll get some character development instead of explosions covering for lack of story. Maybe we'll actually like the characters and one would hope he has the balls to approve robot designs that actually look like the characters instead of insects.

  • March 17, 2009, 2:53 p.m. CST


    by Jesiah


  • March 17, 2009, 2:56 p.m. CST

    If you cared about cinema

    by chrth

    You'd learn how to use paragraph breaks

  • March 17, 2009, 2:58 p.m. CST


    by 1978CreepyThinMan

    There is a website called I discovered called Cinema Treasures and it has listings of all theatres in North America as well as some around the world. It features write-ups about theatres that are open, ones that have closed down and even ones that have been demolished. I was looking up theatres in my hometown of Hamilton, Ontario and I noticed two things. The first was how this city had dozens of small theatres spread across it and how most of the theatres in the area had closed in the 1980’s. But the thing that affected me the most was the comments that people left about those cinemas and how much better things seemed to be back in the 80’s compared to today and I agree although I’m only 30.

  • March 17, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST


    by TedKordLives

    I turn 30 this year, and everything seems like it was better in the '80s. I know that the quality of kid's toons was much better back then. You even stood a chance of learning something if you paid attention. That's just a minor example. <P> I'll have to check that site out-I love the way theaters used to look. The one Harry was talking about in that "Drag me to Hell" review, the Paramount, is a great example(Yeah I'm an Austinite now). Keep it up, man, I'm having a blast defending you across the TBs.

  • March 17, 2009, 3:15 p.m. CST


    by TedKordLives

    Where did that post go? Off into the ether, I guess. God, Transformers was such a horrible movie. I really don't understand how people can stand up for it.

  • March 17, 2009, 3:20 p.m. CST


    by TedKordLives

    And I wake up covered in all sorts of bodily fluids.

  • March 17, 2009, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Baleformers:Professional Fucking Trashing

    by conspiracy

    Bale as a giant fucking robot would kick all kinds of ASS! That professional would fucking Trash Megans cum canal with his giant fucking machined cock blow his lubricants spot on her Bullseye tattoo then fist her mouth while reading the poem tattoo'd on her ribcage without getting fucking dis-tract-ed in the least....</p>Professional!

  • March 17, 2009, 3:38 p.m. CST


    by 1978CreepyThinMan

    And erased it.

  • March 17, 2009, 3:45 p.m. CST

    TRANSFORMERS 2: This Year's Transformers 3

    by bobjustbob

    Next week they are gong to release the remake of TRANSFORMERS 7.

  • March 17, 2009, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay can't do a Superman movie

    by bobjustbob

    Superman doesn't drive.

  • March 17, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    The Beef gotta eat...and drink...and drive

    by disfigurehead

    I could give a flying fuck about Transformers.

  • March 17, 2009, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Ratformers would be better than Bayformers

    by SithMenace

    by a longshot, especially if still produced by Spielberg. If you're comparing someone like Bryan Singer to Ratner then yeah, he sucks, but compared to Michael "cars and explosions" Bay, he's a fucking Picasso.

  • March 17, 2009, 3:51 p.m. CST

    And Megan Fox

    by SithMenace

    is allright, not ugly, but definitely not the most beautiful woman in the world.

  • March 17, 2009, 4:04 p.m. CST


    by TedKordLives

    Sucks, dude. People don't get it. Americans with theirs heads still in the sand should get them lopped off by that fucking stupid Scorpion-Transformer-Monster Rancher looking piece of shit.

  • March 17, 2009, 4:05 p.m. CST


    by TedKordLives

    it led to someone calling me an 'epic cunt'. So I got that going for me-which is nice. 'Epic Cunt':my new nickname for MegaFox.

  • March 17, 2009, 4:45 p.m. CST

    I see fans of Sarah Marshall are in this talkback

    by lockesbrokenleg

    cause they have no taste.

  • March 17, 2009, 6:12 p.m. CST


    by Fenrisulfr

    Fuck you arrogant cunt, and fuck your parkinsonian braindead action scenes. Fuck you and your diahrrea-inducing characters, and fuck you as a man. Fuck you.

  • March 17, 2009, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Scorsese should direct the third one

    by Drop Zone

    Why the fuck not

  • March 17, 2009, 6:49 p.m. CST

    I know Michael Bay is an explosion addict douchebag

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    But he does his shit better than Jon Favreau, and his piece of shit Iron Man.

  • March 17, 2009, 6:59 p.m. CST


    by Sal_Bando

    ---Giant Robots hitting each other is the best of times---Giant Robots are you friends. And knowing is half the battle.

  • March 17, 2009, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Transformers rules

    by geek molester

    I forgive Bay for Armageddon.

  • March 17, 2009, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Can anybody tell me...

    by drompter

    if Michael Bay is already damned? 'Cause I've just realized that I haven't seen MCMLXXVI in a while.

  • March 17, 2009, 7:43 p.m. CST

    MCMLXXVI just realized...

    by Ravetin

    ...that the TF2 trailer was surprisingly cool and decided "I'll give you a chance, Michael Bay" wasn't as catchy as his old phrase.

  • March 17, 2009, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Either that, or perhaps...

    by drompter

    MCMLXXVI's owner finally locked it in its cage.

  • March 17, 2009, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Has anybody heard any new info on Gijoe?

    by southafricanguy

    I ask becos for one of the big summer movies we have seen very little of it (which may be becos its going to be so bad) It is Sommers...

  • March 17, 2009, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Leafer the Lost

    by GaiustheBrave

    I always thought it was 12/12/12. Thanks for the head's up. I would have hated to wake up on the 13th caked in cocaine and dried whiskey and smothered by prostitutes in Star Wars costumes, especially the fat bitch plaing Jabba I would have had one of the other whores (dressed in a Leia slave suit) choke the night before. Oh, yeah, Fuck Michael Bay, he anal rapped my childhood. Can't wait for Transformers 2, muthafucka'!

  • March 17, 2009, 8:06 p.m. CST

    I meant...

    by GaiustheBrave

    he anal RAPED my childhood. I don't think hip hop is ready for anal rapping.

  • March 17, 2009, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Megan Fox is hot

    by Dataset

    In that vapid, party girl fuck-fantasy, KC lights on your Hummer, blue can beer drinking, jock douchebag, supermodel salivating, Nascar, midlife crisis, Oakley sunglass wearing North Face clothed, jerking off thinking about your daughter's friends boredom of EVERYBODY ELSE. Beauty is everywhere. It's as common as clouds. Give me something real, something different. Everybody likes a Mustang. Everybody likes Levi's. There's nothing wrong with that. It's mass appeal. Take it. Just for fucks sake, realize you've become ONE OF THEM!

  • March 17, 2009, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Bale as a BatmanBot would rock.

    by Sal_Bando

    I could see that-

  • March 17, 2009, 9:23 p.m. CST

    How about a new GI JOE trailer?

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Course the movie won't be out until August.

  • March 17, 2009, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Sorry if this has been posted, but for major

    by southafricanguy

    transformers 2 spoilers go to (i knoe..eeeww) where they have scans from a childrens coloring book (im not making this up) and this book reveals most of what happens...

  • March 17, 2009, 11:09 p.m. CST

    Shoot. I had a clever one liner

    by Cotton McKnight

    but I forgot it. I shouldn't have logged out today!

  • March 17, 2009, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Darth Inedible.

    by Cotton McKnight

    Star Wars? 1977? Jaws? 1975? Close Encounters of the Third Kind? 1977? Ring a bell? There weren't VCR's in everybody's homes when those movies came out. Spielberg and Lucas are the ones responsible for the changes you speak of. For the better, in my opinion.

  • March 17, 2009, 11:27 p.m. CST

    The spoilers reveal that....

    by southafricanguy

    many people are going to hate tf2 just as much if not more so. There is clearly more goofy shit. The fragment of the allspark survives and its still turning things (this time kitchen appliances, you see be3cause its funny..) into little transformers. Wheelies design is literally retarded, as in he looks retarded. Of course it also reveals what we have known for some time...MEgatron is back, and that Bay has been making himself look like a tool by lying about it. And no Megatron does nt only appear in flashbacks to the past. He is clearly in the movie a lot. Another big shocker the pyramids are ancient decepticon weapons...used to blow up the sun ( not making any of this up). optimus rescues Sam from Megatron (it is Megatron's claw pinning Sam down in the trailer) . And Devastator appears to be destroyed by....Simmons! The john Turturro character! So the plot in a nutshell is...The decepticoms ressurect Megatron useing the all spark fragment, Megatron bitchslaps starscream and assumes leadership again. They capture Sam and get some info from him relating to the location of the Fallen/the pyramid weapon. Prime rescues Sam. And there is a big showdown in Egypt at the pyramids between the autobots, decepticons who are fighting with the Fallen, and the Army.

  • March 17, 2009, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Seriously??!!..this is the best they could come

    by southafricanguy

    up with? It does nt appear to be very different from the first movie....

  • March 17, 2009, 11:30 p.m. CST

    I Wanna See a Robot Do Megan Fox

    by Akira Cowabunga

    with all kinds of vibrating, penetrating, parts. Hell, forget the action and just make it a big robot rape party for two hours.

  • March 18, 2009, 12:21 a.m. CST

    If they did that for 2 hours..

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Megan Fox would most probably do Jeff Bridges in Iron Monger form for afters.

  • March 18, 2009, 12:30 a.m. CST

    Wheelies get's caught in a mousetrap? - FFS!

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    Jetfire & Prime fight Megatron.

  • March 18, 2009, 12:43 a.m. CST

    SCRIPTGIRL...Yup he gets caught in a mousetrap

    by southafricanguy

    why you ask? because obviously its hilarious, dont you idiots know sophisticated and clever humour ehen you see it?...And why does he look like he has downs syndrome? Because its cute of will sell great with the little kids. Why is the story so damn simple and cliched, because stealing ideas from stargate is the shizzle my nigger! Did any of you see stargate it has splosians! and big swirly effects, and...and there wa sa pyramid, but jeez, only one??!! I can top that, i'll give em 3, and they will transform too *stops to wipe the drool from his face* it will be soooo bad ass kewl! The problem is all these visionless people on internet talkback sites, they cant see my cocaine fuelled vision for what it is, to make all the fat kids bump their chests together and high five each make them happy, someone has to entertain the retard children of the world. Bay out!

  • March 18, 2009, 12:54 a.m. CST

    Are you people at all serious about those "spoilers"?

    by conspiracy

    I looked at the "Chud" stuff...looks about par for Orci and Co. Plenty of room for Pissing robots, mastubation jokes, and The Jesus again humiliating himself in a Transformers movie</p><p>I like how they cleaned up Megan for the coloring book too...thats the only time you'll see that girl without the sheen of whore upon her...also looks like whoever drew her there is under the mistaken impression that she can the drawing seems to have more personality that she ever did in Bayformers

  • March 18, 2009, 1 a.m. CST

    Do you think Dr. Zahi Awass knew just how..

    by conspiracy

    fucking stupid Bay and Co are going to make Egypt's history and archeological sites look? That guy shits bricks anytime someone misrepresents the pyramids or Egypt....even in fiction. If we are lucky he has some connections and the fucker will issue a Fatwa against Bay and Orci...for desecration of Egyptian history and general retarded fuckery against humanity and God.

  • March 18, 2009, 1:36 a.m. CST


    by southafricanguy

    Yup this is what we can expect, just more of the same. So much for all the promises from orci and kurtzman about a stronger sci-fi focus etc...though is anyone suprised? And yeah im not sure Dr Zahi Awass has any idea how retarded Bay is going to make the pyramids and Egyptian history look...unless bay just gave him a big suitcase of money, a big bag of nose candy and some blone prostitutes to help him forget about it...

  • March 18, 2009, 1:43 a.m. CST

    This is what scares the shit out of me about

    by southafricanguy

    the new star trek, that trailer looks fucking amazing, but that its been written by these guys....sheeez. I mean come on!! Any tf fan could come up with a more interesting story than that. It seems they are mostly just rehashing the plot eelements from the first movie, just on a bigger scale. And I actually thought the first movie was somewhat entertaining, and I hoped that with a bigger budget and the establishment of the characters and transformers universe done in the first movie, they might actually make a better movie. But then I must have been on crack to expect that. Man..just please tell me jj can save trek, in spite of the script being written by orci and kurtzman

  • March 18, 2009, 7:32 a.m. CST

    C'mon, guys...

    by GaiustheBrave

    you haven't even seen it yet. Yes, it sounds stupid. Yes, the plot sounds like a dream you have when you sniff all of your markers in one sitting. Yes, it may very well suck. But, jeez, give it a chance. Everyone knows bad story doesn't necessarily equal unwatchable. Just 'cause it's in the movie book doesn't mean it's in the movie. After all, they took the velociraptor rape scene out of JP1.

  • March 18, 2009, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Dude i am willing to give it a chance, it may

    by southafricanguy

    actually be fun in a really dumb way, I did nt hate the first one like many, I just saw the coloring book and several things looked really stupid so I felt like ragging on Bay. But in all seriousness, I expect it will be like the first, just bigger and more of everything (probably just like Bad Boys 2)

  • March 18, 2009, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Kurt Lockwood WILL be in the movie...

    by MrSentinel

    I can't wait!

  • March 18, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    All these sequels and remakes, but still no new

    by Get_Me_An_18-Man_Fire_Team_In_12_Hours

    Tango & Cash. TOO LATE??

  • March 18, 2009, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Robots writing movies

    by josskacer

    Do the transformers movies even need a director? They could easily just have the VFX guys at ILM blow shit up and have the actors make some lame ass dialogue up as they go. The cinematographer could tell them where to stand. Mr. Bay need no trouble himself by interrupting what we all hope will be a very long vacation.

  • March 18, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Here's my problem with the Bay hate.

    by TheMark

    Alright, so I hear at least 3 times each time his name is brought up that he makes movies that use explosions to cover up poor writing. I think we're missing the problem--THE WRITERS. Everyone goes nuts for the actors or the directors when they're right on, but everyone forgets that it all stems from that written page. Thank SCIENCE that Bay uses explosions to cover up shoddy writing since i'm assuming writing isn't his forte--i'd rather have TOTAL ANNIHILATION instead of my ears being assaulted by half-assed attempts to save already half-assed dialogue. That's like a quarter-ass! Speaking of quarter-ass, I was seeing this girl when the first Transformers came out (and this sounds like just lame bragging and for that I apologize...sorta! Haha) and she and Fox had the same body. To this day, I get a little unnerved when I see that scene of her leaning over the hood of the car...because this same girl decided that rather than break it off with me, she'd rather bring a NEW date to one of my bands shows. Talk about poor form!

  • March 18, 2009, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, and the guy's name?

    by TheMark

    His name was Fletcher. We remedied this by dedicating our set to her new date, Felcher. I'm not above fighting like i'm 12.

  • March 18, 2009, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Updated! the 2nd sequel should be on hold..

    by Stalkeye


  • March 18, 2009, 12:24 p.m. CST


    by Stalkeye

    obviuosly Mr. Lockwood won't be cast in the Movie, as it is aimed at a younger audiance. PG-13 not Rated X or NC-17. XD

  • March 18, 2009, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Tango & Cash II

    by TedKordLives

    Tangoer & Casher! I love it! Also, please don't pay money to see this movie. Every dollar that goes to this takes us one step closer to Idiocracy. Hmm, I think I just contradicted myself.

  • March 18, 2009, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Tango & Cash : Walking Frames For The Heroes

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    If there's no retarded Michael J. Pollard back as Owen, it's not worth doing.

  • March 18, 2009, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Michael Bay & Pyramids

    by scriptgirl_nipples

    If he doesn't get to blow the shit out of a pyramid, like the White House in Independence Day. Then really, what's the point of TF2?

  • March 18, 2009, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Tango-"We're on Fire-"

    by TedKordLives

    Cash-"Yeah, we're cooking now!" Owen-"What's that sound?"

  • March 18, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    fixed a link that no1 remenbers

    by Killsomethin

  • March 18, 2009, 5:15 p.m. CST

    fixed a link that no1 remenbers

    by Killsomethin