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Updated w/ Translation!!! Park Chan-wook's THIRST Trailer Sucks!

Published at:  Mar 17, 2009 12:37:12 AM CDT

Beaks here...



Don't know if it's possible to hate myself enough for that headline.

After flirting with his first English-language production (and, having read the script, I really hope that project comes back around), Park Chan-wook skipped back to South Korea to make a vampire movie called THIRST. Below is the teaser trailer, which shows just enough to make me wish I was heading to Cannes this year (where it is expected to premiere).





Seeing the great Song Kang-ho in there reminds me that THE GOOD, THE BAD, THE WEIRD still hasn't been released in the states. People are desperate for entertainment right now. They're still turning out in droves for TAKEN. Why let the most entertaining movie of 2008 gather dust on the shelf? Fie.

And here's a translation of the trailer from the great and wonderful "Papahan"00:11

Please grant my following requests under the name of Jesus Christ.

Please make everybody keep away from me as if I'm a leper with rotting flesh.

Please constrain the movement of my body like a patient whose arms and legs have been dissected.

subtitle: Time of death, 3:31PM

00:37

Please make everybody keep away from me as if I'm a leper with rotting flesh.

Please constrain the movement of my body like a patient whose arms and legs have been dissected

Please let me be in hell.

subtitle: A priest that became a vampire.

00:53

subtitle: You shall not kill

subtitle: You shall not commit adultery.

1:01

subtitle: You shall not covet your neighbour’s wife.

subtitle: The tempation of blood that shakes one's soul.

1:19

"Bat"

Vampire is not an immortal being.
Do you still want my blood?:



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    Readers Talkback

  • Mar 16, 2009 3:13:44 PM CDT

    Love Park Chan Wook

    by nemesisdarkside

  • Mar 16, 2009 3:14:33 PM CDT

    we all hate that line too

    by arcadian del sol

    because it wasn't clever. what's being thirsty have to do with something 'sucking'? a straw, maybe? I dont get it.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 3:14:59 PM CDT

    cool

    by johnny t williams

    can't see the trailer... wtf

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  • Mar 16, 2009 3:15:23 PM CDT

    Looks sucky.

    by light_tweaker

  • Mar 16, 2009 3:16:18 PM CDT

    Should've said "Thirst!" :P

    by nemesisdarkside

    Excited about new Park project.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 3:17:07 PM CDT

    I wonder if Tarantino plans on stealign from him?

    by jugdish

    Afterall Park is a god amongst boys liek QT ( I know , I know you all love that plagueristic piece of shit )

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  • Mar 16, 2009 3:27:38 PM CDT

    Looking good,

    by megan_foxs_cunt_juice

    a bit like the short he did for Three Extremes,

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  • Mar 16, 2009 3:28:02 PM CDT

    The Chaser still hasn't been released either, correct?

    by chaplinatemyshoe

  • Mar 16, 2009 3:34:47 PM CDT

    No CHASER

    by mrbeaks

    And IFC's got that, too. I wonder if the planned remake at WB is holding that one up.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 3:42:08 PM CDT

    This looks decent...

    by outlaw

    Not great, but Park has always been a solid director overall.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 3:49:25 PM CDT

    Fuck Vampires! Werewolves rule!

    by derlanghaarige

  • Mar 16, 2009 3:53:29 PM CDT

    The Good, The Bad & The Weird / The Chaser on DVD

    by quiksnoboarder7

    AICN turned me on to both of these AMAZING films, and if you did not know, you can buy them both from http://www.hkflix.com/home.asp (PS - I do not work for them, but I have been using them for several years now, and they have always has top notch service, delivery and disc quality is outstanding).

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  • Mar 16, 2009 4:06:58 PM CDT

    OLDBOY IS SOO FUCKING OVERRATED AS IS MOST ASIAN CINEMA.....

    by 1978creepythinman

    Everytime that movie comes up on AICN or CHUD the geekboys fucking cream themselves over what has to be the one of the most overrated piece's of shit I've ever seen. Every year there's some asian film that hardcore nerds like QT claim is some sort of masterpiece. Oldboy was like almost every other incoherent asian flick that gets geek panties wet. They are simply shit. The last good asian film I saw was Kung-fu Hustle. Do you know why? Because it was very well written without all the moronic bullshit that people here seem to gloss over just because it's made in another country in another language. Can anyone even watch Hard Boiled today without admitting that apart from the fantastic gunplay there is nothing but a simplistic story, bad direlogue and characters that are beyond cliche but because they wear sunglasses and trenchcoats while fire two handguns at the same time it excuses the overwhelming shit in that movie? Do these movies have good points to them? Yes, even the shittiest ones manage one or two sequences that stand out but those usually involve the sort of violence that has been missing from North American cinema for so long. If North American movies had balls anymore then we wouldn't have to listen to the never ending squealing of people like Knowles and the rest of the morons who are brainwashed into slobbering over these shitty movies.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 4:09:23 PM CDT

    Bad Guy is still my favourite Korean movie.

    by knuckleduster

    And Memories of Murder. And A Bittersweet Life. And Oldboy. And The Host. And My Sassy Girl. Fuck, Koreans are awesome.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 4:14:38 PM CDT

    thanks Quiksnoboarder7

    by thedark0knight

    I just ordered The Good the bad & the weird. Ive wanted to see it for a while, im stoked.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 4:19:19 PM CDT

    great. another vampire movie

    by bmacsmith

    exactly what the world is dying for... more vampire movies.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 4:21:20 PM CDT

    Knuckleduster

    by shepard wong

    I just added that to my netflix queue last week. Will have to bump it up. Kim Ki Duk is one of the best directors working anywhere.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 4:42:24 PM CDT

    A Bittersweet Life is fuckin awesome

    by megan_foxs_cunt_juice

  • Mar 16, 2009 4:43:41 PM CDT

    CreepythinMan has issues!

    by thedudeinla

    Dude what the heck is wrong with you?

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  • Mar 16, 2009 4:50:33 PM CDT

    You

    by quiksnoboarder7

  • Mar 16, 2009 4:51:38 PM CDT

    You're Welcome TheDark0Knight

    by quiksnoboarder7

    I actually went on and ended up buying some more films from that site!

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  • Mar 16, 2009 5:02:00 PM CDT

    The Chaser

    by chuffsteruk

    Started off great,but descended into boredom after 15 minutes...

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  • Mar 16, 2009 5:07:12 PM CDT

    "asian" films creepythinman?

    by lex romero

    Thanks for that wonderful and eye opening post. Lets ignore the fact asia incorporates many different countries all with a wide variety of film styles and films being made and just throw them all together! I mean, they all pretty much look the same right? Who can tell what country a film is from lol!

    You might as well have said "western cinema eh? All the fucking same!". It's fucking stupid.

    Yes there are certain films that have break out popularity in the US that are, inevitably, over praised. But don't start talking bullshit about all "asian" films because you've watched oldboy and hard boiled and decided they weren't that great. Because there are, suprisingly enough, a shit load of great films that aren't crossover success stories. There are also a shit load of bad films as well. Because, zomg suprise! Other countries have as wide a variety of films (in genre and quality) as the US does!

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  • Mar 16, 2009 5:13:39 PM CDT

    I thought Oldboy was pretty cool...

    by themark

    ...but not Jesus 2, as it was proclaimed on many-a-review site. Also, what's with all the love for The Host? I saw a sneak preview in theaters a while back and it was BORING BORING BORING. The opening was fun, but then it was just like most asian cinema i've been told was great--a killer opening and ending, filled with an hour and 30 minutes of shitty dialogue.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 5:16:28 PM CDT

    The good, the bad, the weird is fantastic

    by bullet3

    If you haven't seen it yet you owe it to yourself to track down a copy. One of the most inventive and fun action movies I've seen in a damn long time. Action you can follow, incredible camera movement, and the characters are a lot of fun too.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 5:24:16 PM CDT

    Park sure loves racing violins in his trailers

    by iknowstuff

    The trailer for The Host uses a very similar cue, 'Agent Yellow' from film's soundtrack. This looks fun.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 5:24:46 PM CDT

    Joint Security Area

    by lex romero

    was fantastic as well. (assuming you ignore the woman investigation bits that take up about 20 minutes of the film as a whole). Song kang-Ho is a fantastic actor.

    Kim Ki-Duk is a great director as well, I loved Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring. As is Lee Chang-Dong.



    Korea has some of the best films being produced of the past decade imo.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 5:24:50 PM CDT

    i think that music...

    by zom-bot.com

    ...would make anything seem important and cool. somebody try mixing it over the witch mountain or an old beverly hills chihuahua trailer and tell me i'm wrong.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 5:30:45 PM CDT

    I'm a Robot and That's ok?

    by filmz0mbie

    Has this thing gotten an American dvd atleast? (Yes, I know I could just check on Amazon, but for some reason it won't let me go there on my work PC, go figure).

    Also, whoever said Oldboy was under rated is a naysaying blow hard.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 5:41:57 PM CDT

    Reply to FilmZ0mbie

    by quiksnoboarder7

    Amazon does not list it, but The Good, The Bad and The Weird was already released and played overseas, so it appears on DVD on specialty DVD shops in multiple formats. I have been buying a lot of the Imports right after they play in Asia/Europe before they hit the theatres here in the US and long before the US sees them on DVD.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 5:42:44 PM CDT

    filmz0mbie

    by lex romero

    It had an American release but looks like it's hard to get hold of now, must be out of production. They only had a few on Amazon second-hand and going for $20+.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 6:09:57 PM CDT

    City of Violence and Invisible Target are hidden gems.

    by stalkeye

    Hollywood was right to stick with comicbook adaptations, because guys like Segal can't hold a Katana to Asian action flicks.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 6:15:48 PM CDT

    Aint it cool Adverts

    by somashine

    Home made simple Harry? Jesus man.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 6:20:07 PM CDT

    Park Chan Wook-Is the greatest living director!

    by laraz

    Alive today, he is better than any American director out there. All of the films he has made are ART and beyond! Anyone else that thinks otherwise is just to dumb! Sorry he cany dumbdown his films like american directors!
    Oh yeah by the way, can someone please tell me if LADY VENGENCE has been properly released in america yet? & if not why?

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  • Mar 16, 2009 6:45:10 PM CDT

    Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter...and Spring

    by badlydubbedporn

    is great, anyone seen The Isle?

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  • Mar 16, 2009 7:11:22 PM CDT

    I am dying to see both of these films

    by kafka07

    especially after all the Hollywood crap I've been overdosing on of late, with the likes of Watchmen and Role Models, ugh.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 7:21:03 PM CDT

    Holy Shit

    by cbebop007

    That was awesome. Cool music. I want this right now.

    And speaking of "The Good, The Bad and The Weird," I've been dying to see that for fucking ever. It needs to come out soon.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 7:34:29 PM CDT

    a bittersweet life

    by the_exterminator

    is amaaaaaaaaazing

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  • Mar 16, 2009 7:41:49 PM CDT

    "I am dying to see both of these films"

    by jumpinjehosaphat

    How appropriate. Almost... TOO appropriate.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 9:09:50 PM CDT

    1978CreepyThinMan...

    by giphangster

    ...have you actually SEEN "Oldboy"? Seriously? Incoherent? How can you possibly say that with a straight face?

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  • Mar 16, 2009 9:12:39 PM CDT

    laraz, "Lady Vengeance"

    by giphangster

    has been out in the states for about three years now, if memory serves. It's a bit difficult to find, though. Your best bet is Amazon or Netflix, depending whether you want to rent or buy.

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  • Mar 16, 2009 9:56:37 PM CDT

    There's always gotta be one creepy guy at the party doesn't ther

    by thatpeterguy

    I love when people proclaim there opinions like they are the definitive word on the matter. No one else can view the film differently and if they do then they are morons. How does that not seem retarded?

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  • Mar 16, 2009 10:53:15 PM CDT

    The HOST was great, and this other one...

    by uberman

    about a guy imprisoned and set up to fall into an affair with a younger woman who we later learn was his daughter. It was a revenge flick. I liked those two but rather hated all the John Woo ones and 80% of the 'Asian Horror' flicks as they all now look the same (creepy black haired dead kid doing a crabwalk on the ceiling or something). That said, the originators of that kind of horror (The RING, the one that takes place in that haunted house...?) were and are classics. As for all Asian cinema looking the same, so does American cinema by and large. Sure, theres better American movies, but there's also more Crappy American movies too-we just have had more time to make movies. One more thing about what little Asian film I've seen: They tend to be a little on the over-dramatic side and also seem to use violence for the sake of violence. My 2 cents based on the little I've seen (so far...)BTW: Tokoyo Gore Police looks friggin terrible.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 12:06:03 AM CDT

    He is so goddamn wonderful...

    by danielkurland

    I could go on for ages about how gorgeous and enjoyable his movies are, but I think you all are aware. I cannot wait for this. One of my favorite scenes of ALL TIME in a movie, is the part in Oldboy where it is cutting back and forth between Woo-Jin in the elevator, and him as a child holding his sister over the bridge, and as he cocks the gun in the present, we see him cocking an imaginary gun in the past. That is just brilliant direction. And the music over all of it only makes it more enjoyable.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 12:55:50 AM CDT

    YOU MAY LIKE THESE MOVIES BUT IMO THEY'RE SHIT...

    by 1978creepythinman

    And when I say "Asian Cinema" I mean how almost instant praise is heaped on almost anything that comes out of Japan, China, Korea etc... and it seems to be that way ever since people like QT and Robert Rodriguez started giving public blowjobs to Directors like John Woo, Tsui Hark, Takashi Miike, Park Chan Wook etc... it became sort of obligatory in the 1990's for moviebuffs to heap adulation on even the worst trash. Well, I sought out these movies over the years (Chinese Ghost Story, Hard-Boiled, Audition, Oldboy etc...) and they have done nothing for me apart from the sex and violence that we don't get in North America because of the fucking MPAA. About the only movie that's deserved its praise was The Story of Riki which was fucking awesome. The thing I find strange is how - as North American cinema started to decline in the 1980's as a result of the Major Studio's/MPAA killing off independents, making it almost impossible to get movies with graphic sex and ultra-violence made and released in North America – we started hearing more and more about not only Asian cinema but almost any movie made around the world that indulged in the sort of hardcore violence and graphic sex that we weren’t getting here at home. If we reinstated the regulations and anti-trust laws that were in place before the fucking Reagan administration while turning the fucking MPAA into a rating’s board with a fair rating system that allowed Director’s to make anything they wanted without getting slapped with an NC-17 movie that can’t even get a proper release - with Digital video and modern production techniques we’d see a new golden age of cinema in North America that would eclipse even the 1970’s. Really, does anyone remember hearing as much about Asian cinema back in the 80’s when we had crazy shit like Re-animator/Evil Dead 2 or action movies like Robocop/Predator getting made? How about the 70’s? Occasionally you’d hear about some martial arts film or an art-house flick about an old man and his tomato garden in Hiroshima before the bomb but back then it was all grindhouses and horror/exploitation nirvana from North American directors making whatever insane shit they could think of. The point is that I think we heap undue praise on anything we get from foreign cinema because of the poor state of the North American movie industry.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 3:37:53 AM CDT

    Guys- PLEASE FIX THE TWITCH THREAD

    by lost jarv

    It's fucked for some reason.
    Ta.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 4:42:46 AM CDT

    right. New Home.

    by lost jarv

    Fucking twitch thread is donald ducked.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 4:44:24 AM CDT

    Return of The Living DEad

    by lost jarv

    What the fuck happened to Dan O'Bannon in the 80's.
    HAving seen a few of his "Masterpieces" written in an obviously drug fuelled haze, I know think that Alien was a complete fluke.

    Seriously, as much as I loved Lifeforce, Dead and Buried and (Especially) Return of the living dead (I saw bits that Shaun of the Dead had lifted wholesale- cool), they are all, being nice, complete fucking messes. Hilarious, no doubt, but not good writing.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 4:56:15 AM CDT

    Creepy Thin Man

    by lost jarv

    aren't you the tool that said Evil Dead and Army of Darkness are shit?

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  • Mar 17, 2009 4:56:57 AM CDT

    Best Korean film I've seen in Yonks:

    by lost jarv

    Daisy. Wow. See it before Hollywood remakes and butchers it.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 5:08:36 AM CDT

    I've had a weird aversion to "Asian cinema"

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Not sure why. But after seeing the trailer for this and The Good The Bad and The Weird I shall be rectifying it.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 5:08:50 AM CDT

    Audition was fucking great

    by lost jarv

    it's the only miike that I can stand.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 5:12:55 AM CDT

    Droid

    by lost jarv

    It's like anything else, there's some great and some shit. To write off a whole continent (WTF), especially when you're holding Re-animator (which I love, but as what it is- schlock) up as some paragon of genius is ludicrous.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 5:24:30 AM CDT

    there are loads of asian films i know i need to see

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Like Oldboy, Sympathy for Lady Vengeance, Host, Infernal Affairs etc etc I have these on my 'must watch' list just never do so. But I haven't written off the entire continent.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 5:37:41 AM CDT

    Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance is my favourite

    by lost jarv

    of that trilogy, then Lady Vengeance then Oldboy. Infernal Affairs destroys The Departed (on every level), Host is OK, if a bit overrated.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 6:04:08 AM CDT

    Maybe I'll have an asian cinema themed weekend

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Only problem with that is film after film of subs, which is demanding.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 6:11:21 AM CDT

    Yeah, and if you don't like one, then you're fucked

    by lost jarv

    because it puts you off the next one. Sprinkle them around rather than doing a asiathon.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 6:21:27 AM CDT

    CreepyThinMan

    by knuckleduster

    Your theory is dumb.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:16:35 AM CDT

    Where the fuck is everyone?

    by lost jarv

  • Mar 17, 2009 7:24:01 AM CDT

    Lesbian Vampire Killers

    by lost jarv

    depressingly, Mrs. Jarv told me that the idea came from Horne and Corden asking a marketing group what title would most appeal to 14 year old boys. This makes me think that it may be poo. I hope not.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:34:51 AM CDT

    Creepy Thin Man seems like a deluded douche

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Why didn't we hear as much about Asian/foreign cinema in the 80s as we do now? Could it be that save for Hong Kong no other markets had the budgets to produce films that weren't dramas?For anyone to write off The Lives of Others, Black Book, B-13, Pan's Labyrinth, This Is England, I'm A Cyborg, Ong Bak and Assembly as overrated is lining your rectum with Crazy Glue and shoving your head up there.To blame Reagan and the ratings system for Hollywood's downfall is ludicrous. The ratings system had no effect on movies like Spiderman 3 or Transformers. In a world without The Gipper those movies were never going to be more than PG-13 puff pieces. Would an R rating have made PotC 3 any better? Hollywood's image has suffered for no other reason than the inept people writing and directing their movies. An R-rated turd is no more digestible than a PG-13 rated turd.And if Hard Boiled doesn't do anything for you, you might want to try watching it with your eyes open next time.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:41:13 AM CDT

    H-O-D

    by lost jarv

    totally agree, the decline of American cinema reminds me of the decline of the Music Industry- a bottom line culture became prevalent, and therefore people did not take creative risks. Rather, they focused group eerything to death and spent an inordinate amount of money "marketing" shit to guarantee a big first weekend and fuck the longevity. In the music industry this resulted in the UK having something obscene like 42 different number 1's in a year and Hollywood churning out endless first weekend dreck like Transformers. I blame the rise of MBA's and Marketing whores. See also banking for this...

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:43:01 AM CDT

    And although I come off as the guy who kneels at the alter

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Of Asian cinema, I'm the first person to tell you they produce far more shit than they do gold, by a good 20:1 ratio. It's just that when they do hit the mark (Mr. Vengeance, Exiled, Battle Royale) it instantly makes you forget about the crappy 19 films that preceded it.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:52:54 AM CDT

    You nailed it Jarv

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Showing a movie to a bunch of hicks in Idaho wondering if the ending is too bleak for them does not a good industry make.I think that's why I enjoy foreign (particularly Asian) as much as I do. Rarely do they sugar coat an ending. Life is pain, life is loss, life is not having it both ways. As much as I enjoy a movie where the hideous nerd gets the girl, seeing the "hero" damaged beyond repair is how news headlines inform me the way the world really works.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 8:06:09 AM CDT

    It's fucking true

    by lost jarv

    and probably why all those films (especially the Lives of Others) could not be made in America- a focus group would shit one at that ending. Smaller budgets= greater freedom. Weird, really, when you think the alternative should be the case.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 8:54:19 AM CDT

    Focus Group

    by series7

    Damnit I can't remember the comedian. I wanna say it was Paul Rudd. They were on Letterman last weekend talking about focus groups and how he went to a screening for a movie and talked to a group after ward and this guy in all hunting gear with a cowboy hat was sitting in the front row was the first to say something. And it was: I liked your movie, I normally don't find it funny, but this was funny. Like Saving Private Ryan funny. The actor went on to say. You see those are the sort of people we are dealing with.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 8:58:56 AM CDT

    Bruce Campbell brilliantly eviscerated them

    by lost jarv

    in If Chins Could Kill- He told the story of Darkman, where the Studio forced Raimi to remove a scene that made the audience uncomfortable, when it was FUCKING supposed to, on orders from a focus group. Dumbassed thinking.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:04:25 AM CDT

    It's not exactly recently that it's all gone downhill

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    The Dutch flick The Vanishing made in the late 80's was fucking bleak but an almost perfectly made thriller. Then Hollywood recruited THE SAME FUCKING DIRECTOR to do the remake and managed to completely assfuck everything that made the original so amazing.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:08:50 AM CDT

    That was on orders as well

    by lost jarv

    A focus group shat one at the end and made him redo it- that was in about 1996, I think. See also Diabolique. I'm amazed Funny Games got such a literal remake- considering it's a Brechtian arthouse piece where nothing really happens.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:11:25 AM CDT

    I've seen both Diabolique's...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    but can't remember the one with Stone. Did they change it so the wife didn't die?

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:17:58 AM CDT

    I'm also struggling to remember

    by lost jarv

    I remember that it was changed, but damned if I can remember how

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:21:38 AM CDT

    Shows how memorable the film was...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    when you can't even remember what happenened. I remember the original clearly though.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:24:55 AM CDT

    It was a steaming load of bollocks

    by lost jarv

    Sharon Stone has made precisely 1 good film and 1 terrible but hilarious film.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:29:52 AM CDT

    Lost Jarv, DAN O BANNON'S ENTIRE CAREER WAS A FLUKE.....

    by 1978creepythinman

    I get the distinct impression that O’ Bannon wasn’t a very good writer and a plagiarist whose career burnt out in the 80’s because VCR’s made it impossible for him to rip off old movies without people noticing. Pre-Alien his biggest claim to fame was Dark Star which he co-wrote with John Carpenter and played Pinback. That movie was an amalgam of Heavy Metal Magazine, 2001 and various sci-fi stories that they cherry picked ideas from i.e. Ray Bradbury’s short story Kaleidoscope which was the “inspiration” for the ending with Dolittle, Talby and the Phoenix asteroids. Then there is Alien which was clearly a rip off of It! The Terror from Beyond Space as well as The Voyage of the Space Beagle by A. E. van Vogt. The rest of O’ Bannon’s script work was distinctly sub part including Dead and Buried, Lifeforce and Invaders from Mars. Return of the Living Dead is my most favorite film of all time but it’s clear that the movie was a fluke success as his 1992 follow up The Resurrection, an adaptation of H.P. Lovecraft’s The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, was an absolutely horrible movie and piss poor in comparison to Roger Corman’s much more faithful The Haunted Palace which was based on the same story.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:33:09 AM CDT

    I remember it being fucking awful

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    And I saw the original sometime afterwards and thought it was brilliant. What are Stones good/laughable films? Good Stone... Casino, Total Recall, The Quick and the Dead. So bad it's good Stone... Basic Instinct, The Specialist, Action Jackson Dogshit Stone... Sliver, Sphere, Catwoman, Basic Instinct 2

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:33:56 AM CDT

    ALSO Lost Jarv I DIDN'T SAY EVIL DEAD WAS SHIT....

    by 1978creepythinman

    I said that Army of Darkness was shit and it is in comparison to the first two movies which are classics. I don't have a problem with cartoonish movies except when it's a sequel to two of the best Horror movies of all time.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:36:59 AM CDT

    Knuckleduster, MY THEORY HAS A RESONABLE HYPOTHES TO WHICH…..

    by 1978creepythinman

    I think I made a strong case for.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:44:18 AM CDT

    I forgot total recall

    by lost jarv

    Good Stone: Casino. Total Recall. So Bad it's good stone: Basic Instinct, meh Stone: QATD, Dogshit Stone- sliver, sphere, catwoman, that one where she's on death row, BI2, The Specialist,

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:45:43 AM CDT

    Apologies.

    by lost jarv

    You're still wrong about AoD.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:48:05 AM CDT

    Although I'd need a revisit...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I enjoyed the hell out of QATD when I saw it. And Action Jackson just makes me laugh. A lot.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:55:29 AM CDT

    Hawaiian Organ Donor, I DIDN’T WRITE OFF ALL FOREIGN CINEMA…..

    by 1978creepythinman

    The Lives of Others, Black Book, B-13 and Pan's Labyrinth are all great movies and I’d even include La Vie en Rose, Let the Right One In and Goodbye Lenin as recent favorites. Ong Bak was one of the few Asian films that I actually enjoyed but I think it’s just that Asian/Oriental culture and their movies rub me the wrong way for some reason. I’m a huge fan of European cinema but I think that it’s because Europe/Britain culture is soo cross pollinated and similar to Canadian culture that apart from the differences in language they seem relatable. I don’t find anything relatable in Asian cinema and although there are certain basic genres that we do share such as Horror, Comedy, Action etc… the tone, style and cultural aspects of those movies feel obtuse for some reason.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:05:24 AM CDT

    1978CreepyThinMan: How can you be so obtuse?

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Asian Cinema: What? What did you call me? 1978CreepyThinMan: Obtuse. Is it deliberate? Asian Cinema: Son, you're forgetting yourself. Guards! Take this man to the hole!

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:09:36 AM CDT

    I don't know whether to take offence at this

    by lost jarv

    piece of ignorance or not: "I’m a huge fan of European cinema but I think that it’s because Europe/Britain culture is soo cross pollinated and similar to Canadian culture that apart from the differences in language they seem relatable." For a start, fucko, we're nothing like Europe, at all.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:14:08 AM CDT

    Culture is reflected in cinema, CreepyThinMan

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Tokyo and Seoul may have McDonalds, but culturally they are a universe away from the Western world. If you have difficulty relating to those movies because the family dynamics and social norms are radically different from your own, that's unfortunate because you'll miss out on at least one or two movies every year that deserve to be on everyone's top ten list.With regards to Hard Boiled, I'm not sure when you first watched it, but in 1994 it was revolutionary. Slo-motionaries like Zach Snyder and sunglasses and trenchcoat afficianados like the Wachowski Brothers have John Woo to thank for making that stuff look so damn cool.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:37:25 AM CDT

    Good point, Jarv

    by hawaiian organ donor

    CreepyMan, having lived in Canada myself for 17 years I can see the similarities to England. After all, since the Queen is still on the currency and the Lieutenant-General generally has the nicest residence in town, to me that still makes it part of the Commonwealth.But Spain, Italy Scandanavia, etc. have a very different culture with some radically different social norms and behaviors. Granted it's all a "Western" culture so Germany and England would look more alike to a visiting alien than Japan and England, but at the end of the day, our cultures are all dissimilar enough that even most English films won't play in Peoria.You're obviously a step or two up from the typical North American who likes their films happy and cliche. But the way you view Asian films (obtuse) is similar to the way the average redneck will never understand the dry British humour of Allo Allo or the unconventional storytelling of Pedro Almodóvar.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:38:55 AM CDT

    Can someone American answer this?

    by lost jarv

    How much are AIG paying in bonuses?

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:41:19 AM CDT

    1978CreepyThinMan

    by badlydubbedporn

    you make many good points, but they seem to be some of the reasons I enjoy asian cinema, they are tales which I can't find in Hollywood, hardly. And I can look past some of the acting, and bad production sometimes, for that. And as someone else said, it's just like Hollywood were for every great movie there is 20 shit ones, Also the culture differences are the same for me sometimes as a European watching a Hollywood movie, and as crazy as some Asian cinemas maybe, I can often relate to them alot.Also I though Riki Oh was amusing cheesy crap, gore for the sake of gore, not a terrible movie, but not good. A bad example of asian cinema IMHOHas anyone seen Dumplings? Great movie which I could imagine causing a stir in parts of America, but was shown on TV uncut at about 10pm in my country, it's all horses for courses dude.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:47:10 AM CDT

    Allo Allo is dreadful. And not dry

    by lost jarv

    the whole thing is based on "humorous" accents and lame double entendres. Blackadder/ New Statesman were dry. Aside from that- spot on.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:49:06 AM CDT

    BadlyDubbedPorn

    by lost jarv

    fucking great username. Wish I'd thought of it.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:49:28 AM CDT

    D.Vader or anybody from the other TB

    by xiphos_2

    That want to do a March Madness bracket I set a group up at Yahoo. I left info on the other TB about it.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:01:08 AM CDT

    Lost Jarv

    by badlydubbedporn

    haha cheers, agree on Allo, Allo, It is not dry. More like a sunday afternoon Confessions of a Window Cleaner/Carry On, but damn I liked it when I was a kid, must have been where I got my stocking fetish from.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:01:17 AM CDT

    Jarv

    by hawaiian organ donor

    AIG is paying something like $170M in bonuses. The worst part of it is, the people who are getting the bonuses belong to the division that sunk the company to begin with. It's the ultimate instance of rewarding failure.I haven't watched Allo Allo in over 20 years. I used to watch it on PBS and at the time I thought it was funny but a lot of the humor went over my head. So if it was never good to begin with, well, what the hell did I know, I was an idiot kid with horrible tastes in music, movies and clothes.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:02:12 AM CDT

    Allo Allo is to dry British humour as to...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Married with Children is to dry American humour.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:05:08 AM CDT

    What's changed HOD?

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    ZING! (I'm kidding)

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:07:08 AM CDT

    This was posted in the Tintin TB. Obviously by an 11 year old.

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Sometimes, hate is its own punishment. I remember I was such an "Anchorman" fan, that I hated on Talladega Nights because it was so different from Anchorman. And THEN I hated on Borat, because he was the French dude in Talladega. Saw both on friend's PS3; what a fucking idiot was I! Some muthafuckers just gotta iceskate uphill, y'know? Americans get what's coming to them (ignorance) if they keep shutting their eyes to anything new and adventurous. Too bad Tintin, and animation in general (and science fiction in general), pays the price.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:16:27 AM CDT

    What can I say

    by hawaiian organ donor

    As a teenager I thought the humor was dry because some of it went over my head. You guys have informed me it wasn't dry at all so that means I was just an ignoramous.My taste in movies may still stink but at least I know better than to give Transformers 2 my money. How many lunatics around here won't make that the biggest film of the summer?

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:16:31 AM CDT

    fucking idiots.

    by lost jarv

    That's disgusting about AIG. Bastards the lot of them. That turd Brown has "accepted full responsibility" for the economic fuck up. Yet he's not resigned. What the fuck happend to ministerial culpability.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:18:31 AM CDT

    Allo Allo

    by lost jarv

    to be absolutely fair, I'm maligning it. When it started, it wasn't that bad, and the tasty waitress has a history of getting her kit off in dodgy british B movies. Not to mention that Gruber (The gay nazi) was in Lep in Space. It ran for about 20 years though and the suckage increased exponentially.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:21:44 AM CDT

    I was just reading about it in the Guardian

    by lost jarv

    and there's a load of republican cunts crawling out of the woodwork. Apparently, it isn't legal to stop the bonuses. BEcause it's breach of contract (I fail to see how), in that case, why didn't someone have the smarts to say in the bailout contract "If you pay one fucking red cent of this in bonuses then we're having the lot back". Morons. I'm so angry about this.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:24:54 AM CDT

    I know Tintin is your pet thing droid

    by lost jarv

    but I'm really off it. I'm no fan of 21st century berg, hate mo-cap and everything about it smells faintly of poo.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:26:13 AM CDT

    I didn't mention Married with Children because I hate it

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    That shows awesome. Especially as a kid. If you loved Allo Allo as a kid then more power to you. We don't judge round these parts, just comment. And I "technically" won't be handing over money to watch Transformers 2, but I will be seeing it in the cinema. And it will be Bay-tastic.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:28:11 AM CDT

    Wasn't Gruber in Seinfield too?

    by badlydubbedporn

    Yea it did go crap after Rene got hit with a tree.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:33:07 AM CDT

    Jarv

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I was more taking a pot shot at the inane comments by that moronic kid, than trying to bring up Tintin as a subject. But now that it is... Yes, Tintin is my pet thing. Mo-Cap I have so far had no problem with. I liked Beowulf. And I don't think they will be going with the photo-realistic mo-cap on Tintin. It'll just be the cartoon brought to life in 3D computer animation. (I think its going to be 3D). Nothing so far "smells of poo" in my opinion.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:36:53 AM CDT

    Also, I think PBS only showed the first two seasons

    by hawaiian organ donor

    I seem to remember watching the pilot episode frequently. And I remember the waitress which probably explains another reason why I tuned in.What bothers me with AIG is that NOT ONE FUCKING EXECUTIVE has come forward to say "I don't need the bonus." NOT ONE.I bet if they received thousands of death threats they'd turn down the money.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:39:36 AM CDT

    Thousands of death threats?

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Where would I find the time for that, HOD?

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:49:53 AM CDT

    I've been doing it all day

    by lost jarv

    and only got to double figures. But I was being creative.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:52:13 AM CDT

    Those AvP ads are pretty amusing

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I like the tennis type game one.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 11:54:17 AM CDT

    I've sent thousands of death threats

    by lost jarv

    to those responsible for AvP. Nobody seems to be taking any notice.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 12:00:22 PM CDT

    This is genius! Cohen's new Bruno movie is officially called...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Bruno: Delicious Journeys Through America For The Purpose Of Making Heterosexual Males Visibly Uncomfortable In The Presence Of A Gay Foreigner In A Mesh T-Shirt

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  • Mar 17, 2009 12:01:24 PM CDT

    They are quite funny though

    by lost jarv

    even though they painfully remind me of that which I wish to forget.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 12:01:57 PM CDT

    Droid

    by xiphos_2

    Isn't that called Right Said Fred for short?

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  • Mar 17, 2009 12:02:35 PM CDT

    Cohen= 1 trick pony

    by lost jarv

    tired of him. I enjoyed Ali G when he first appeared, I laughed at Borat at the same time- this is just a repeat of the same shtick.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 12:02:56 PM CDT

    Xi

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    You are correct.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 12:03:16 PM CDT

    BDP

    by lost jarv

    dunno, but he was MITTENSCHPIDER. Hehehehehe

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  • Mar 17, 2009 12:04:11 PM CDT

    I never watched the Ali G show

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    But i saw the pathetic attempt at the Ali G movie. Borat was genius though. Never seen one thing with Bruno, so don't know what to make of it.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 12:05:28 PM CDT

    Right. I'm off to see if I can rope people into a Guinness or 10

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Later chaps.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 12:12:41 PM CDT

    I feel that the interview style of Bruno/ Borat/ Ali G

    by lost jarv

    works best in small doses. Bruno almost needs context- he was hilarious at New York Fashion week.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 12:55:15 PM CDT

    I've just discovered that the Pope thinks

    by lost jarv

    condoms will spread aids. Tit.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 1:42:40 PM CDT

    HOD

    by xiphos_2

    I sent you the sign up info.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:06:49 PM CDT

    Hawaiian Organ Donor, RONALD REAGAN CAN BE HELD DIRECTLY RESPONS

    by 1978creepythinman

    Firstly, your rant about Spider-man 3, Transformers and PotC 3 is nonsensical. Secondly the Reagan Administration ushered in the widespread de-regulation and removal of anti-trust laws that were put in place after the Great Depression to prevent companies from monopolizing various industries and creating the type of TOO BIG TO FAIL companies that have now created the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression itself. In regards to the decline of North American cinema it’s like this. With the HUGE success of movies like Jaws and Star Wars various money grubbing Wall Street types moved into the Hollywood system and reshaped the major studio’s into Corporate entities where the goal was no longer to just make movies and inspire friendly competition the way that proper capitalism is supposed to work. No, Wall Street style capitalism is about increasing market share by buying out or killing off the competition so that a few people/companies control everything which is closer to communism if you think about it. So, how did they go about this? By buying off politicians they were able to first get rid of the tax shelters that allowed low budget independent filmmakers and studio’s to raise money from private investors. Without these tax shelters people like George A. Romero (Night of the Living Dead/Dawn of the Dead), Tobe Hooper (The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Poltergeist), Sam Raimi (The Evil Dead and Spider-man Triologies), Brain DePalma (Carrie, Scarface, The Untouchables), Martin Scorsese (Taxi Driver/Raging Bull/Goodfellas), Francis Ford Coppola (The Godfather 1 & 2, Apocalypse Now) etc.. wouldn’t have been able to raise the money to make their first features. Canada offered a 100% tax shelter system for investment in movie production in the 70’s and that lasted until the 80’s. Without that Ivan Reitman (Meatballs/Stripes/Ghostbusters) and David Cronenberg (The Fly/Naked Lunch/Crash) wouldn’t have been able to make their first films Cannibal Girls and Shivers respectively. Also, in the USA, before the deregulation and removal of the anti-trust laws, studios weren’t allowed to by up movie theatres or chains to create a monopoly. So what you had were thousands of theatres and theatre chains across North America and all those companies cared about was their box office revenue. So they would book anything that made money. If you made a low budget movie you could book it into a theatre and since the Motion Picture Association of America - MPAA was a joke back in those days you could show just about anything in theatres as in evidence of Deep Throat playing not just in porn houses but even in respectable theatres all across the country not to mention the grindhouses that played an endless stream of Horror and exploitation flicks day and night. If your movie was good and made money you could use that money to make more prints and advertise across the city, state or even the whole country if your movie was a hit. This is how AIP, Roger Corman and later New Line Cinema and Troma operated for decades, that is, until the 80’s. Now the deregulation/anti-trust laws removal (from here on in referred to as DR/ARL) wasn’t the only reason for the decline of audience attendance in the 80’s. VCR’s made it possible to rent movies and watch them from the comfort of your own home. As a result thousands of theatres and a few chains went under. Mostly these were the single venue style theatres with one screen where they would play double and triple bills and alternatively use the theatres for rock shows, stage productions etc… But the second thing was that after the DR/ARL, the major studios were allowed to buy up theatre chains and individual mom and pop theatres with the intent of shutting them down. The 1980’s saw the rise of the multi-plex, most of which were built by the major studios and a few other companies that operated such as Famous Players or Odeon Cinemas as an example up here in Canada. They were built with maximum comfort and convenience but had as much personality as your average McDonalds in comparison to a family operated restaurant. Now because these chains were all owned by corporations they would only do business with each other and book only each others movies as well as their own, effectively shutting out any independent studio’s or producers. By the late 80’s most of the independents had been killed off so now it was mostly the majors with the exception of a few studios that survived because they had highly profitable franchises (New Line and the Nightmare on Elm Street series) or they distributed some low budget independent, art-house and European films (Miramax with The Crying Game, El Mariachi, Resevoir Dogs etc…) to the single art-house theatres scattered across the country and because those movies made soo much money and received soo much national critical attention from Siskel & Ebert etc.. even the corporate owned theatre chains started booking them because money is still money. So how does the MPAA tie into this and the decline of balls out American Cinema? It’s because Hollywood is always the target of right wing mouthpiece’s and various religious organizations across the country as witnessed by the ridiculous uproar by the moral majority over movies such as Dogma, Kids, Natural Born Killers etc…. in the 90’s or if you really want to go back in time you could find examples of this with almost every single successful film made during the entire history of cinema that features any sort of violent or sexual content. Look up the Hays Code and watch some pre-code movies made in the 20’s and early 30’s and you’ll notice how much more violent, sexual and lurid movies like the original Scarface and Mystery of the Wax Museum were for the time and how North American cinema went through a period of melodramatic puritanism that lasted from the 30’s (with the exception of a few underground films) and only ended with the collapse of the studio system in the late 60’s which ushered in the most fertile era in American cinema history as a result of filmmakers being allowed to realistically and unrealistically portray sex, violence and real or not-so real life like never before. During this period the political and religious freaks bitched about all the sex and violence but their complaints didn’t catch any traction especially with all the political turmoil of the era and the fact that Government violence against it’s citizens (the Kent State shootings) and the global imperialism/war mongering (Vietnam) made Government criticisms of Hollywood on behalf of religious furor a moot point. After Jimmy Carter lost the presidency because he inherited the dismal economy of the post-Vietnam era and dared to tell America the truth, the American public stuck their heads up their collective asses and voted in an ex-actor who was the straight man to a chimp as President of the United States. But Ronald Reagan only got into power because the Republican Party aligned themselves with various snake oil salesmen such as Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Jimmy Swaggart and their mindless followers creating the Moral Majority movement of the 80’s of which it’s existence was to paper over all of the ugliness going on in the USA and promoted the fantasy that America was a land of rainbows, puppies and sold their bullshit with all the tenacity of a used car salesman selling a rusted out shitbox with a fresh paint job. This gave the religious right more power then they had in decades and made politicians live in fear for their political lives. Once again the religious freaks put their attention onto Hollywood because all of that sex and violence was polluting their Good Christian country. So they put the screws to politicians, mostly those from the Redneck States, who then came down on Hollywood and threatened to dismantle the major studio’s monopoly by reinstating those tax shelters and the DR/ATL. It’s at this point that the religious right gained almost complete control over what got shown in theatres across North America but they couldn’t implement their control in the style of the Hays code for fear of being labeled as CENSORS so they operated in virtual anonymity under the MPAA. It’s under this system that the MPAA and the major studio’s were able to kill off independents. The scam worked like this, you’re a low budget independent Director, Producer or Studio. You make money by making the type of movies that the majors don’t such as Horror and exploitation with outrageous sex and violence. The major studios are only interested in the only two types of movies they know how and want to make, glossy big budget extravaganzas and worthy Oscar winners. They think it’s beneath them to make Horror and exploitation films with gratuitous gore and sex except for when it’s being done by a major Hollywood actor, producer or director in which case the MPAA seems to have no problem with slapping the film with a family seal of approval R-rating. They used to distribute the occasional low budget shocker or sex flick, such as the Friday the 13th series which was distributed by Paramount or Porky’s which 20th Century Fox put out, but the ire of so called “respected” critics like Siskel & Ebert along with the political pressure from the religious right forced studio’s like Paramount/Fox to stop distributing low budget gore and sex flicks which is why they sold the F13th series to New Line while Fox eventually gave up on sex comedies. Anyway, you’re an independent Director, Producer, Studio who’s made “Teenage Lesbian Orgy in the Girls Locker Room of Gore” and you’re looking to distribute it. In the 70’s if the moves was good, or at the very least had plenty of entertaining sex and violence, you could put it out on a small scale and expand statewide and nationally if the movie is successful as I previously mentioned. The problem is that because the Reagan administration removed the DR/ANL, the studio’s now own 90% of the theatres across the country and won’t distribute your movie because it doesn’t have the Siskel & Ebert types across the country slobbering over it and they don’t want the headache of enraging the religious right. So what are your options? Well, there might be some small chains, mom and pop theatres that you could distribute to but there are issues when it comes to the rating of your movie and how that effects your ability to promote your epic. The situation is this, you take your magnum opus to the MPAA to get an R-Rating, now an R-Rating in the USA and the system itself is designed to censor without the appearance of censorship. An R-Rating means that no one under the age of eighteen can enter a particular movie without someone over the age of eighteen, BUT, the catch is that if you’re over eighteen you can bring anyone of any age into the theatre with you. That means that some dipshit eighteen year old, which DO exist and they are many, can bring a ten year old child into the theatre to see “Nudist Amazonian Warrior Interracial Dyke Cannibals of Sodomy” which will no doubt turn the impressionable ten year old into a peace-loving- gay-commie-pinko-liberal-Marxist-serial killing-rapist-transexual-who-wants-Communist-socialist-Free-Health-Care-and-less-money-spent-on-the-military-to-finance-better-education-and-alleviate-poverty-to-bring-about-a-new-age-of-Universal-utopia-which-will-allow-the-human-race-to-look-towards-the-stars-and-expand-our-spieces-across-the-galaxy-for-eternity-untill-the-end-of-creation….and that’s bad. So in order to Protect The Children™ and receive an R-rating the MPAA tells you to cut your film BUT they wont tell you what to cut because then they could be accused of censorship. They’ll just let you know when they see it. So you cut a few frames and trip a scene here or there and they tell you to keep cutting. You go back and forth until you scream in frustration about what else you need to fucking cut and they tell you that it’s not the footage as per say but the “tone” of it and how it’s this or that. The point is to get you to water down your movie until all its commercial elements (i.e. The Fucking and Killing) no longer exist and you have a movie that has an R-rating but won’t make a penny in theaters because your flick wasn’t that good to begin with and all you had was the nudity and gore. Now you could try to release it unrated which a lot of movies did up until the 80’s and many were highly successful such as Dawn of the Dead but that was when you had those independently owned theatre chains and mom & pop theatres that would play your movie even without a rating and you could still mount an advertising campaign to let the public know about your flick. Even in the 80’s there were still a few theatres left that would play un-rated movies the only problem is that with media consolidation all of the newspapers, TV stations and magazines were controlled by a few corporations and those corporations had political ties to the religious right etc, etc… so they would refuse to run advertisements of your un-rated movie and in those pre-internet days that meant that you were shit out of luck and no one would know about your masterpiece. The only other option was to tell the MPAA to fuck off and refuse to cut your movie in which case it would be given an X-Rating which effectively put it into the category of Pornography and no theatres would play it apart from porn houses and even those were being killed off by the VRC revolution of the 80’s. So without a means of finance, distribution or publicity this is how most of the independents went out of business in the 1980’s which is why North American cinema has been sliding into the shitter for the last quarter of a century as a result of corporate greed, religious fanaticism and political scumfuckery. Today not much has changed and it seems like a miracle when a good movie gets made and released in North America but they are few and far between. The great hope is the internet, on-line distribution and digital downloading but there are two main issues. The first is that without financing most independent movies today are shot on video cheapies that offer very little in the way quality scripts, production value or even competence although occasionally you get a good cheesy film like Lost Skeleton of Cadavra, The Janitor and Blood Car. The second problem is how do you make money off something that people can get on-line for free from torrent sites? The answer is to make a good movie against the odds and hope that people like your movie enough to want to buy the DVD but those odds are against you and as long as Hollywood maintains its corporate monopoly on national theatrical distribution, North American cinema will never recover.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:15:37 PM CDT

    1978CreepyThinMan

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    No one will ever read that.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:16:19 PM CDT

    Good, Bad and Weird

    by rookie116

    I can't believe it hasn't been released in the US yet. I saw it on a PLANE RIDE from Hong Kong to New York and thought it was a decent action flick. I expected a little more flair from it but I guess I'm not really into Westerns. Also, the relationship between the gangster and the girl in A Bittersweet Life was a joke. There was NO chemistry whatsoever.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:40:15 PM CDT

    Jesus 1978CreepyThinMan

    by kungfuhustler84

    That last post is the weirdest shit I've ever seen. Don't be steppin on the C of C fool! Calm down for Christ's sake with all the bull shit.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:42:27 PM CDT

    What up, yo?

    by mr. zeddemore

    I said I'd disliked Kaufman for years in the other TB, and only KungFu responded. WHAT'SUPWITHTHAT?

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:43:24 PM CDT

    1978CreepyThinMan

    by mr. zeddemore

    Dear sir. Fuck off. Signed Winston (motherfucking Ghostbusting pimp) Zeddemore.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:44:30 PM CDT

    Obama to appear on Leno's show

    by mr. zeddemore

    HOW is that cool news? That's going to be the tamest 'how can I kiss your ass' interview since Parkinson fucking SLOW-DANCED with Will Smith.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:44:39 PM CDT

    You can argue with ThinMan all you want, but...

    by uberman

    it sounds like he knows his shit.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:46:05 PM CDT

    My rant is nonsensical? WTF?

    by hawaiian organ donor

    Dude, you come stumbling in here like a drunk frat boy wondering where the anal beads came from and why he can't get the taste of head cheese out of his mouth and you call my thesis nonsensical?This coming from the guy who blames the decline of Hollywood on the Reagan administration. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with focus groups, slashing running times to squeeze in one more show and being more concerned with opening weekend than whether people will still want to watch the movie in 10 years.CreepyMan, way to live up to your moniker dude.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:46:07 PM CDT

    uberman

    by mr. zeddemore

    It isn't 'his' shit, he copied that from a book and keeps posting it in every talkback. If he expressed his opinion, I'd disagree but respect it. I don't respect needless copying/pasting unless it's the Bale rant translated into Mandarin Chinese.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:47:30 PM CDT

    At any rate

    by mr. zeddemore

    The 80s didn't see a decline. Terminator... Aliens... Goonies... Gremlins... ESB... ROTJ... Indiana Jones... Die Hard - that's just off the top of my head.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:48:07 PM CDT

    I liked Borat okay

    by kungfuhustler84

    It's not something I would watch again though.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:48:44 PM CDT

    Borat

    by mr. zeddemore

    See - I find it funny in skits on Youtube. But a whole film? Nah.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 2:57:08 PM CDT

    rookie116

    by hawaiian organ donor

    TGTBTW didn't have enough flair? Jeeeeeeeesus. It had flair to spare, son.This TB has gone to hell.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 3:16:06 PM CDT

    I got my hands on TGTBTW! Oh yeah!

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    But I've got four more episodes of Chesty Freckles to watch so it'll have to wait for the weekend me thinks.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 3:58:58 PM CDT

    Hawaiian

    by kungfuhustler84

    Fuck these clowns. I'm sure TGTBTW is great. How did you get it droid? I STILL HAVEN'T SEEN IT!

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  • Mar 17, 2009 4:00:13 PM CDT

    Is Chest Freckles that good?

    by kungfuhustler84

    If I suddenly got TGTBTW, I think I would drop everything else I was doing to watch it.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 4:02:11 PM CDT

    I just tried that copy of Red Cliff HOD gave me

    by kungfuhustler84

    on the PS2. It does not work. Sadly, this means I can only watch it on my lap top, which is a piece of shit.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 5:02:44 PM CDT

    KungFu

    by mr. zeddemore

    Haven't seen her eps, but she is rather spiffy in promo shots. And she's a female Bauer - like Kate off Lost if Kate off Lost didn't suck ass figuratively AND literally.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 5:47:15 PM CDT

    I kinda hate Kate from Lost

    by kungfuhustler84

    She's too skinny for me anyway.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 5:49:59 PM CDT

    Aye - I prefer Claire

    by mr. zeddemore

    Still a little skinny, but she's hot.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 5:52:25 PM CDT

    Anybody got a pic for me?

    by kungfuhustler84

    All I can do is type in Chesty Freckles on google. And I don't think that's gonna work.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 5:53:14 PM CDT

    Chesty

    by mr. zeddemore

    http://tinyurl.com/clog4t

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  • Mar 17, 2009 5:55:48 PM CDT

    My PS2

    by series7

    Sucks with everything. I've had it since the first Christmas it came out, and its old now and barley plays games now.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 5:59:10 PM CDT

    Whats TGTBTW???

    by series7

  • Mar 17, 2009 6:00:16 PM CDT

    Fu

    by series7

    You ready to talk about Syndche, New York yet? I've had a nights sleep on it and I realize that it is better then I first thought, and I've been thinking about it all day.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 6:01:34 PM CDT

    Wait - you changed your mind

    by mr. zeddemore

    YOU CAN'T DO THAT? NO! NOOOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

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  • Mar 17, 2009 6:02:07 PM CDT

    And if you missed that my post above was jokey

    by mr. zeddemore

    May God have mercy on your soul.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 6:07:38 PM CDT

    Series

    by kungfuhustler84

    The Good the Bad and the WeirdCheck out a trailer on youtube

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  • Mar 17, 2009 6:12:51 PM CDT

    Series

    by kungfuhustler84

    I'm a little busy now, but I should be in and out. Did you see my last post on the Twitch TB? I hope that cleared things up.

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  • To watch tonight: Misery and Priscilla, Queen of the Desert These movies are Bale approved because they are two of Bale's favorite past times, torture and cross dressing. Bale be praised.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 6:18:51 PM CDT

    Fu

    by series7

    Yeah. Plus I don't think you realized that I didn't really hate the film. It was just not as good as I was expecting, and I saw it by myself and had some questions and needed to talk about it. But I still believe that its pretentious to the upteenth degree and there is a special feature on the DVD that proves it.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 6:25:34 PM CDT

    Thanks Zed

    by kungfuhustler84

    I can see where you got the comparison to Kate from Lost. I don't think she's my type.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 6:51:31 PM CDT

    Who watches 24 around here?

    by series7

    I didn't know we had anyone over 40 in this group.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:06:36 PM CDT

    24

    by mr. zeddemore

    Sometimes.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:08:19 PM CDT

    Kung Fu

    by hawaiian organ donor

    OK, your copies of TGTBTW and Red Cliff 2 went out today. I hope your address hasn't changed. Enjoy!

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:09:18 PM CDT

    I watch 24 even though I kills brain cells

    by hawaiian organ donor

    It's the ultimate dumbhouse for me.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:15:33 PM CDT

    HOD

    by series7

    You liked Handcock. I think your brain has turned to mush.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:21:10 PM CDT

    KFH About Chesty Freckles Girl FBI Agent

    by xiphos_2

    Check out this review it might help out.http://tinyurl.com/dyw4hn

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:25:03 PM CDT

    Hancock was almost a good movie

    by xiphos_2

    Almost. to bad they wussed out in the last third. Up till then it was pretty good.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:29:14 PM CDT

    I liked Hancock

    by mr. zeddemore

  • Mar 17, 2009 7:30:43 PM CDT

    Crank 2

    by series7

    I was interested at first. But the more I see it and the lackluster Transporter 3 doesn't get me too excited. Also since I've gone back and watched Crank for a second time since the theaters I didn't really care for it, it was kind of boring.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:33:40 PM CDT

    Handcock just suffered

    by series7

    From terrible casting. I would have preferred Martin Lawerence or Taye Diggs to Will Smith. Also I am a huge Peter Burg fan, mark my words he'll win a best director Oscar with in the next 10 years.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:34:42 PM CDT

    Those AVP ads

    by series7

    Are pretty funny, anyone remember the Kill Bill billboard that was made for the it airing on Canadian TV? With the blood splattering coming off of the billboard and onto the building and a car?

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:39:44 PM CDT

    Billboard

    by series7

    I can't find the Kill Bill Billboard I am talking about but I found this and there is a cool Kill Bill ad still. This is like crazy billboards its pretty cool. http://tinyurl.com/djqbl2

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:40:29 PM CDT

    Heres the Kill Bill ad

    by series7

    It was the next google link... http://tinyurl.com/cploeq

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  • Mar 17, 2009 7:40:55 PM CDT

    Mr. Z

    by mavra chang

    We have a minor debate going on that we are trying to turn into a full-fledged debate over on the other site (under "Interesting Question"). Xiphos left a very good answer and I'm curious as to what you would say. Join us, if you have a moment.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 8:45:21 PM CDT

    HOD thanks!

    by kungfuhustler84

    Now we will have even more movies to agree about, I'm sure. Really looking forward to both of them. Red Cliff 1 is still a movie highlight for me of the last few years.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:29:52 PM CDT

    Fuck!

    by series7

    Fucking country on Idol tonight? God is there a worse type of music out there? Then fucking chick-fil-a jips me on the cross cut fries! But there is a high point in tonights St. Pat day celebrations. Vodka mixes like a mother fucker with Chick-fil-a Lemonade! Allah would be proud.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:31:25 PM CDT

    Kate from lost looks like

    by series7

    Dave Coulier's main bitch, aka god from Dogma.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:46:49 PM CDT

    Fu

    by series7

    Since I don't think you've seen the DVD of Syn, NY let me tell you about it. There are some special features I watched them all. 1) A making of that is ok, it is pretty much a camera going around and hearing all the actors and workers talking about how crazy and smart Charlie is. 2)Interview with PSH, which pretty much shows his metamorphosis into John Malkovich. 3) A ROUND TABLE DISSCUSSION OF THE MOVIE, this is the one I will discuss below. 4) A break down of the different animations from the movie. 5) And interview from something British with Charlie with a really fucking stupid interviewer. Its pretty good though. I wish I had listened to the 2 hour tapping thing that this site had up a couple months back. He pretty much just talks about his movies and how its a warehouse within a warehouse within a warehouse in case you missed that. Ok its this third special feature that really burns my balls. Its these fucking nobodies, seriously they didn't even bother to introduce who the fuck these 5 people sitting in a fucking uber pretencious sitting room. I guess they are critics for things? Or Bloogers, they call it a Bloggers’ Roundtable. Once you see it you will literally vomit. I fucking hated these people the second I saw them. They spent the whole half hour coudling Kaufman's balls, swirling them around in theirs mouths like they were a fine wine. I mean they talked about how they cried after the first time they saw it, and pointed out everything I caught the first time through they caught a second time. I don't know if Kaufman had anything to do with this feature, but it was like a last minute scramble to try to convince people that this was some amazing movie. That or these people will help you understand the movie. It's god awful, and at the end of it you just want to punch all five of them square in the jaw and ask them if they know what a disappointment they are to their parents. I really want you to see this.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 9:58:53 PM CDT

    Ring Of Fire

    by series7

    Ohh my butt fucking god. The gay ass idol favorite did a cover of Ring Of Fire that was all gay and melodic with a sitar....he heard this band do it. WELL that fucking band was the runner up from the TV show Rock Star: Supernova Dilana. He fucking stole the arrangement from another reality singing contest! How fucking lame is that. Randy went on to talk about how this is how NIN would sound if they covered a Johnny Cash song. REALLY RANDY? You know and I know all about JC covering NIN. Fucking fuck.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:12:22 PM CDT

    That sounds like it sucks

    by kungfuhustler84

    But I try not to judge movies based on the special features. If I did, I would probably think Road Warrior sucked ass, which I sure as hell don't.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:15:41 PM CDT

    The thing with that special feature

    by series7

    Is that, this is what I think about people whole really REALLY liked that movie. Now I did like it, I just didn't think it was this amazing piece of art, mainly because it felt like it was made for those sort of people. When is PSH going to make a Hemmingway bio?

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:16:27 PM CDT

    I loved that movie

    by kungfuhustler84

    I still plan to get the DVD. That Pinocchio, and Let the Right One In, as soon as I get paid again.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:18:17 PM CDT

    As in Ernest Hemingway?

    by kungfuhustler84

    That would be some god awful casting in my opinion. It would call for someone far more rustic and far less pasty.

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  • Mar 17, 2009 10:20:42 PM CDT

    I wouldn't group all the people that liked a movie

    by kungfuhustler84

    In one category. I'm a Kaufman fan, but i could kiiinda soooorta see where you were coming from with your criticism. The movie is damn good in my opinion, but it wouldn't bother me if you disliked. The disagreement yesterday was more for your criticisms, which I thought were pretty much as bull shit and pretentious as you claimed the movie was. Again though, I don't think it's a big deal, and certainly does not have to lead to arguments.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 2:07:05 AM CDT

    Anyone interested in an interesting question? :)

    by mavra chang

    http://tinyurl.com/clkp84 There's been a lively little talkback going on behind your sleeping backs!

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:38:22 AM CDT

    I have to say Mavra

    by lost jarv

    that is an impressive site

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:39:02 AM CDT

    Airplane was the movie watched last night

    by lost jarv

    and I still laugh at it. "Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetemines!"

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:48:24 AM CDT

    That Aintitbale site is very fun

    by lost jarv

    Site devoted to professionalism. And fisting cunts. Poetry. For lazy geeks, we really can do some quite good things when we try

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:52:19 AM CDT

    Mavra Chang

    by mr. zeddemore

    I saw the question.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:52:51 AM CDT

    Mavra Chang

    by mr. zeddemore

    Sadly, too deep for last thing at night and first thing in morning. I'll get to it later, hopefully.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:02:22 AM CDT

    fucking yawn

    by lost jarv

    not hungover, just extremely fucking bored.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:04:13 AM CDT

    waaaay beyond me

    by lost jarv

    not since I did philosophy 101 have I thought as deeply as that. Nowadays I don't tend to think further than pay day.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:04:53 AM CDT

    "Surely you can't be serious."

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    "I am serious... and don't call me Shirley."

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:11:05 AM CDT

    It's just genius

    by lost jarv

    "I speak Jive"

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:12:54 AM CDT

    "I developed a drinking problem."

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

  • Mar 18, 2009 4:19:01 AM CDT

    "We need to get them to a hospital"

    by lost jarv

    "What?" "A big building full of patients"

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:33:39 AM CDT

    I'm so bloody bored!

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Watched four episodes of 24 last night. (And I'm not over 40!) Got one more to go until I'm back up to date. Other than that I've got a bunch of flicks to watch over the weekend, like Good, Bad Weird and Synecdoche.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:37:43 AM CDT

    I watched Dexter again recently

    by lost jarv

    and it was shit again. It rallied a bit, and restored my interest (it helped that lilah got her tits oot), but now it's all drivel about his father and deb's relationship. This is a fucking terrible series. It needs to get back to the genius of Series one pronto.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:38:37 AM CDT

    Thought you were going for a drunkening.

    by lost jarv

    I'm too fucking ill and this deadline is crippling me.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:43:56 AM CDT

    Never watched Dexter

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Is it worth checking out? At least series one...

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:47:03 AM CDT

    Series one is absolutely worth it

    by lost jarv

    and Frank swears blind that if you watch series 2 in one hit then it's really good too. Having watched it weekly, I disagree- it's arse enlivened by the occasional good bit. And boobies. The problem is, it took far too long to get going, this time out, there's too much bullshit, he's still obsessing about stuff that was dealt with in the first series, and the focus is wrong. It's poo. She has, it has to be said, got fantastic boobies though.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:47:41 AM CDT

    Went for a few

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Then we came home and had a few more while catching up on 24. Despite it being St Patricks day, I struggle to justify a no holds barred drunkening on a tuesday night. If I'm working the next day that is.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:53:32 AM CDT

    The boobies may get me (and keep me) watching

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I don't really know anything about it. He's a serial killer, right?

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:00:36 AM CDT

    It's clever and good

    by lost jarv

    He's a serial killer that ony murders those that deserve it. He also works for plod. The performances are great, and his arch, snide voiceover was magic in the first series. It lost me badly with all the shit with his bird's ex-hubby (jailbird, rapist scumbag), and Dexter going to AfuckingA.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:01:51 AM CDT

    Not to mention having dinner with his Mother in Law

    by lost jarv

    what a load of bollox. I was glad when she dumped his ass and he could hook up with the hot English girl who gets the boobies out.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:05:27 AM CDT

    Sounds alright

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Might put in the pile with all the other stuff I need to watch.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:07:39 AM CDT

    Any show can become instantly watchable...

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    by introducing a hot chick that gets her jugs out.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:07:49 AM CDT

    Series 1

    by lost jarv

    was probably the best thing I saw on telly that year. It was 100% required watching. This series is "if I'm not in the pub and there isn't anything else on, but oh-look it's 10.30 and it lasts for an hour and a half and I have work at 8 tomorrow so can I be arsed to sit up watching this crap until midnight, oh is that Rambo on the other side? fuck that then" status.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:09:25 AM CDT

    They were smarter than that

    by lost jarv

    because they kept using her feeders in the "previously on Dexter" bit at the start of each episode, thereby guaranteeing me watching it for a good while. Knockers will do that.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:11:36 AM CDT

    I'm ranting about AvP again on the other thread

    by lost jarv

    fucking hate it, hate it, hate it. AAAAAAAARGGGGGGGHHHHH You missed the great AvP:Rectum flame wars didn't you droid? they were great.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:14:12 AM CDT

    Previously on Dexter... Funbags! Remember these?

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Well, now that you know what they look like, keep watching and maybe you'll get another look.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:15:24 AM CDT

    Yeah, I wasn't around for those

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    They would've been fun.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:15:27 AM CDT

    exacty

    by lost jarv

    and damn it, if I didn't keep falling for it.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:16:47 AM CDT

    It was so gratuitous.

    by lost jarv

    I think she was getting a glass of water or something and Deb walked in so she turned around and full frontal nuditied the camera- as if to say "look, these are tits". You can't really justify it in terms of plot or character

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:24:04 AM CDT

    Blouse Bunnies are more fun when gratuitous

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    Macy has a brilliant monologue in State and Main as the director convincing Sarah Jessica Parker to get em out. Damn, Mamet is genius. He almost had me convinced that I wanted to see SJP's ratty little doorknobs. Ugh. What a horrendous thought.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:40:28 AM CDT

    That's one persuasive motherfucker.

    by lost jarv

    I'm off my sandwich now.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:53:26 AM CDT

    Yoko wants free southern comfort from us?

    by lost jarv

    she can fuck off.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 6:12:58 AM CDT

    I've been thinking about the term "Gratuitous"

    by lost jarv

    in relation to norks, and I don't think hooters can be gratuitous. They're always necessary and improve things.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 6:18:39 AM CDT

    what was thinman's argument?

    by lost jarv

    I've seen it referred to several times, but seeing as he got the ban hammer am yet to read it.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 6:23:58 AM CDT

    christ- look at what that dick MM posted

    by lost jarv

    "one out of every three or four women/girls have been raped or sexually assualted in some way" Fuck me, that pisses me off. To begin with, it's not true and secondly what he's done there is elevate everything from an ass pinch upwards to the same status as rape. I actually want to slap him for demeaning a horrible crime and victims of it.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 6:30:05 AM CDT

    Did thinman get banned?

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I didn't read his post, but it was fucking epic. Crapping on about Reagan ruining Hollwood or some shit.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 6:31:15 AM CDT

    MM is a twat

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I never read anything he posts.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 6:39:43 AM CDT

    How did Reagan ruin hollywood

    by lost jarv

    That's silly.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 6:44:00 AM CDT

    Who the fuck knows?

    by i_am_not_the_droid_you_are_looking_for

    I didn't read it. It was seriously fucking long. You had to scroll down the page several times to get past it.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 7:04:30 AM CDT

    trollish behaviour that

    by lost jarv

    That's the only 100% guaranteed way to get the ban hammer.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 7:14:43 AM CDT

    CreepyThinMan got banned?

    by hawaiian organ donor

    It's going to look like I was talking to myself then.He claimed the Reagan era brought about prudery and the PG-13 rating so we got less graphic movies like Robocop and more watered down fluff like AvP. Or some inane babble like that.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 7:44:01 AM CDT

    What a find

    by mr. zeddemore

    I found Spider-Man The Movie. 50p on VHS. Not the Raimi one - this one involves Martial Arts MASTERS and International Espionage.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 8:56:06 AM CDT

    Creepy got banned?

    by docpazuzu

    Nice. The guy was a tool. Didn't read his mad treatise on Reagan and movies though. Objectively speaking, a good deal of the movies we consider to be all kinds of awesome were made during RR's tenure in the white house.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 8:59:42 AM CDT

    I'm assuming it was the ban hammer

    by lost jarv

    all his posts are gone.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 10:48:27 AM CDT

    This is how unoriginal

    by xiphos_2

    Thinman is. If I remember correctly, he got banned before, for doing the exact same thing. Cutting and pasting hugh blocks of texts that somone else wrote.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 11:46:50 AM CDT

    Where did everybody go?

    by series7

    How do I always seem to be on when everyone else is dead and buried?

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  • Mar 18, 2009 11:59:54 AM CDT

    Looks like Prince is pulling a U2

    by series7

    And spending all next week on Leno, I wonder if he'll do a top ten.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 12:08:38 PM CDT

    I'm about

    by lost jarv

    it's been very quiet today.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 12:17:53 PM CDT

    series 7, are you effin serious..

    by stalkeye

    ..about Hancock's casting? Taye Diggs is a hack who is incapable of delivering the goods. (he was the worst part of Equilibrium.) as for Lawrence, too many bad roles (Wild hogs and especially The Black Knight) all but ruined what's left of his career IMO. he'll be back on the freeway waving his gat (pistol)and screaming obcenities a year from now.no offense, but I don't know what's more out there, your casting suggestion or X-play giving RE5 3 effin stars. It's all good. :0P

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  • Mar 18, 2009 2:23:19 PM CDT

    Handcock

    by series7

    The casting of William Smith meant that it was not going to be a rated R movie, which is should have been. I just names a few other black actors that could have done it, I mean it wasn't like a said Usher or Little Bow Wow or Mr. Maria Carry. Fishborne may have worked, the personally I would really like to see this one comedian Greer Barnes who pretty much looks like the Handcock character play the role. I've seen him live a couple years back and he just had a comedy central presents two-three weeks ago. He wrote for the Chapelle show as well, he is funny as shit. The PG-13 rating is my biggest gripe, it should have been R. Fuck Bernie Mac would have been better.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 2:37:59 PM CDT

    Hancock was NEVER going to be R-rated

    by hawaiian organ donor

    The original script was hardcore but the studio was determined to castrate it and give it a huge opening weekend. Same thing that was done to Die Hard 4 and AvP. Trim down the running time and ensure teenage boys could see it was the name of the game.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 2:54:01 PM CDT

    Re: Hancock

    by stalkeye

    Never heard of Greer barnes, but did you see the unrated version of Hancock? it's not the hard "R" as we would prefer, but better than threatrical version. however I agree with the Tber who had mentioned that the 3rd part of the film was disapointing. They could have been better off without the romantic plot twist as the concept of an obnoxious superhero is more refreshing than some of the comic adaptations out now.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:04:18 PM CDT

    Well

    by series7

    Thats gay. Handcock wasn't a Fox film though was it?

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:04:37 PM CDT

    Well said Hawaiian

    by stalkeye

    (BTW what do you think of Tokyo Gore police? couldn't get through the first 10 minutes..)Hollywood feel that PG-13 films will bring about higher BO returns while going against artistic licenses or "creativity".It's more of insecurity than a business stragedy if ya ask me.And not only do Snyder and the wachowski's can thank John Woo, but add the guys at Capcom who developed Resident Evil 5's in game cinemas.(The wesker fight scenes reeks of bulletime.It looks very cool however.)Creepythinman doesn't have a fucking clue.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:05:25 PM CDT

    I would have rather

    by series7

    Watched an hour and half of you tube clips of Handcock fucking up then the actual movie.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:06:35 PM CDT

    That Wanted video game

    by series7

    Looks pretty sweet, hopefully it has nothing to do with that shit of a movie.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:07:20 PM CDT

    Has anyone else seen

    by series7

    SYNECDOCHE NEW YORK? Any thoughts about it?

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:15:50 PM CDT

    Series

    by kungfuhustler84

    If you haven't read the last two issues of Joe Kelly's new comic series BAD DOG, drag your ass to the store right now and tell the shop person to order you both issues, and add it on your pull list. It is some of the funniest shit I have seen on the stands in years. I just picked up the second issue today and breezed right through it. It's something I feel like the entire C of C could enjoy immensely.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:17:21 PM CDT

    Series

    by kungfuhustler84

    Shall I reiterate what I liked about Synecdoche or do you not care to hear it now? Really, it wouldn't offend me at all if you didn't.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:18:37 PM CDT

    Wanted VG

    by stalkeye

    did you download the Demo? (assuming you own a PS3 or Xbox 360.)it's OK but not worth my hard earned $60.00. you are better off buying RE5 which is heavy on action and gunplay. Wanted was OK for a rental but i would have been pissed had I plunked down $12.00 during it's opening.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:20:28 PM CDT

    Two more books I am enjoying immensely

    by kungfuhustler84

    are the two Ender's books based on the original series by Orson Scott Card. Both Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow are some fantastic sci fi reads with great characters and a nice faithful adaptation. It's funny, most of my favorite books right now are all adaptations of books. Dark Tower, the Stand, Wizard of Oz, and the Ender's books are all just phenomenol on all fronts.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:41:05 PM CDT

    S, NY

    by series7

    Naw I care, I'm just trying to see who else has seen it. Get more people involved.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:44:23 PM CDT

    BAD DOG 2

    by series7

    Came out today? Shit I did not see it. Though I think its on my pull list. Though my store did not get the new Thunderbolts either? Hmmm. Issue 1 I liked and thought it was funny, but there were some parts that did not make sense. The two enders books. I have never read the actual book, but I have been collecting the issues. I say collecting because I've yet to read one. Same with Wiz of Oz I got them all, I've only read the first one though. I loved the first series of the Stand and plant to read the newest issue today.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:47:10 PM CDT

    My favorite titles right now

    by series7

    Are Golly, though the last issue wasn't that great. And Eye of the Camera, even though I haven't read Marvels, I stare at it every time I go into the comic store I need to get another job damnit. Also I am digging Skaar a lot right now. As far as funny comics go I read the first trade of a thing called Skyape not too long ago and it was pretty bizzare and crazy, I got the second trade and they got the third one at my store which I'll buy (they are only $6). If you like Bad Dog you may like Skyape its a little more surreal then Bad Dog though.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:48:52 PM CDT

    Bad Dog 2

    by series7

    Damnit I had it written down for coming out next week. I wonder if my store even got it, there shit seems all fucked up this week. I'll check another store tomorrow.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:50:04 PM CDT

    Comics

    by series7

    Shit there are like 20 comics coming out on April 1st I want to get. I guess its Wolverine month? Fuck I need more money.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:51:20 PM CDT

    Deadpool

    by series7

    Are you reading the series right now fu? They just released a trade of it. Its damn good.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:55:30 PM CDT

    Stalkeye

    by series7

    Naw I only got a Wii. So I'll probably end up getting The House of the Dead: Overkill or Madworld. It just looked cool. As for the movie I hated it. I paid good money to see it opening weekend having just read the comic and to find out that they decided to take one of the dumber plots of the comic and only use that and said screw the rest.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 3:56:46 PM CDT

    Joe Kelly

    by series7

    Damn he was on Celebrity Apprentice the other week. Too bad I have no idea what he looks like, because they didn't mention who the comic book people they were working with were. I bet they liked working with Tom Green.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:02:39 PM CDT

    Yeah issue 2 gets even better

    by kungfuhustler84

    Everything gets just slightly zanier and way funnier. I think it's my favorite comic right now, just two issues in.My shop didn't get T-bolts either. Guess it just didn't ship today.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:28:25 PM CDT

    Robert Harmon

    by series7

    Something stupid. I was looking up the bio on actor Stephen McHattie who was Hollis Mason in Watchmen, and is in the movie I am watching right now. I check out his IMDB list and it said that he was in a movie Highwayman, though not the one with JC. So I went up to see who directed that Highway man and his name is Robert Harmon. So I check out what other movies he's directed....AND he directed the movie I am actually watching right now! Jesse Stone: Thin Ice. Just thought that was funny.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:29:14 PM CDT

    T-bolts

    by series7

    Has a deadpool tie in. I don't normally read it. Do you?

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:29:59 PM CDT

    Christian Bale action figure

    by series7

    I was looking at that new banner ad for T4 toys and my first thought was man, Christian Bale looks like an action figure in that picture. Turns out I was right.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:32:04 PM CDT

    The Hitcher (the original)

    by series7

    Was directed by Robert Harmon. I wonder if Highwayman was what he wanted to do with the Hitcher series or something? They had similar looks and feel. I need to watch both again.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:35:08 PM CDT

    OUTLANDER!!!

    by series7

    Hits the DVD's May 19th!!!!

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  • Mar 18, 2009 4:38:20 PM CDT

    THE DEVIL’S TOMB

    by series7

    The movie directed by the first James Bond son, which I thought was going to hit the big screens is going straight to VHS. It sounded pretty cool, but straight to DVD does not. That comes out on May 26, its got Show Me the Money, Hellboy, Uwe Bolls Male Muse, Devils Reject, Mr. Black Flag and Beowulf/gay scarf around neck guy from Indy IV.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 5:04:27 PM CDT

    Here is the Outlander DVD Cover

    by series7

    Its ok http://www.scificool.com/outlander-dvd-specs-and-cover-art/ TINY http://tinyurl.com/cw5uwb

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  • Mar 18, 2009 6:10:44 PM CDT

    Deapool

    by kungfuhustler84

    It's on my pull list, but mainly cause I just like to have a few lighter comedy titles to balance out all the dark titles I read. Incredible Hercules is on the list for the same reason. Both are actually consistently pretty funny.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 6:29:30 PM CDT

    I have been with Deadpool since the reboot

    by kungfuhustler84

    but I'm really not sure how I feel about the tie in with the new Thunderbolts. They've had, like what, two issues to themselves?

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  • Mar 18, 2009 6:34:27 PM CDT

    Damn

    by series7

    My mom has a Kindle. Now I want one.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 6:36:23 PM CDT

    Don't support it Series......

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

    .....you'll be sad when comics are only available online. Its coming.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 7:16:32 PM CDT

    Existenz

    by mr. zeddemore

    Ya know, Cronenberg doesn't get enough props for how he made the best video game film. The 'video game' scenes are a giant 'fuck you' piss-take of the formulaic dialogue and cut-scenes within games like RE and GTA.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 7:16:37 PM CDT

    Yeah I know

    by series7

    But sometimes I get SOOO fucking irritated reading books. Like holding them and shit. Comics online I couldn't imagine that. I don't think I'll ever own a Kiddle, but at the same time its cool. I remember reading about similar book things that were suppose to available back in like 97. I read about it in the magazine called T3 for my British fans.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 7:17:30 PM CDT

    Existenz

    by series7

    I remember liking that movie. Wasn't there some twist ending? Or was the ending that it was a video game?

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  • Mar 18, 2009 7:22:16 PM CDT

    Series7

    by mr. zeddemore

    There's two twist endings. They play with the idea that life's a game... and Jude Law's a prick. (He would've NAILED Ozymandias.)

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  • Mar 18, 2009 7:24:26 PM CDT

    Creepy Thin Man AKA KraptoidFinSpan

    by sal_bando

    I agree w/ what The PaZoozoo said. A tool.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 7:35:10 PM CDT

    Madworld and HOTD Overkill

    by stalkeye

    Great choice Series 7, I recently purchased a Wii thanks to my tax returns. And I gotta admit, that the system is fun and you're gonna love Overkill..just two things, prepare yourself for a ton of F-Bombs coming your way (not to mention a gross finale that went a bit too far.) and second, get a pistol controller like NYKO's Perfect shot. The Wii zapper just doesn't cut it. Madworld is good as well but I didnt get to finish it as RE5 has grabbed most of my attention.If you can import or Mod, I still suggest you grab a copy of Capcom vs Tatsunoko. great fighting game.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 7:42:45 PM CDT

    Anybody check out this week's comic reviews?

    by kungfuhustler84

    There is a link in the Youngblood review to a rant about Rob Liefeld's drawing that is pretty spot on and hilarious. I actually owned that comic that has "Bloodwulf" in it.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 7:50:27 PM CDT

    Yeah i checked out that website

    by series7

    Those things are pretty funny. I need to check out that that Obama youngblood, yeah I bought it. Stalkeye have you played No More Heroes? Its like $19 now its a lot of fun as well. I wish I played my Wii more.

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  • Mar 18, 2009 8:52:02 PM CDT

    New Twitch is up.

    by dannyglovers_dickblood

  • Mar 18, 2009 10:06:41 PM CDT

    New Twitch is up...

    by series7

    douchebag.

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  • Mar 19, 2009 12:16:52 PM CDT

    Re: No More heroes

    by stalkeye

    it's a cool game sepecially for the price. One of the first games i bought along with the Wii.(it makes great usage of the wiimote.) I'll finish it someday as the Umbrella chronicles and Madworld are on the top of my Wii "things to do list".

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