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'Because Christians Are Re-tar-ded!!' Wednesday Brings Comedy Central's First New SOUTH PARK Since November!!
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THINKING IT’S HIS WAY INTO HER HEART AND OTHER BODY PARTS, KENNY TAKES HIS NEW GIRLFRIEND TO A JONAS BROTHERS CONCERT. HIS DREAM OF TAKING THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO THE NEXT LEVEL IS CRUSHED WHEN THE JONAS BROTHERS GIVE THEM PURITY RINGS.
Kenny is one randy 9-year-old.
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This sounds like it could be good
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i thik the second half of last season faultered a bit, it was still funny television and matt and trey always knock one out of the park when they first come back after a 4 month breaki'm gonna go out on a limb here and say this one will be hillarious
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we've had a new south park.
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seriously, give us a third movie fox, not a reboote
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I had a hypothesis back during the 1st and 2nd seasons that the reason Kenny always died was because he had more 'adult' (read: sexual) knowledge than the other kids. It was always Kenny that knew what dildos were, etc. Later episodes didn't confirm that hypothesis though.
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you knew someone had to start it
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this episode will be good. then next week there will be a "shocking" cartman episode, then an insane stan marsh-esque episode. then a cartman/butters episode based off a popular movie that week. all funny. then four mediocre episodes, probably involving some secondary characters no one cares about. happens every time.
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That it meant that anyone who went to a Jonas Bros concert would die if they didn't make someone else see one within 7 days
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The truth is, I believe you are absolutely right.
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Here's hoping next week's episode involves Cartman taking control of the Republican Party away from Rush Limbaugh.
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They are so good at musical parody, I imagine a graphic love song, but chaste. Very chaste.
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Mar 11, 2009 3:20:49 PM CDT
So is Star Trek pretty much just funding this whole site now?
by somashine
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Like Octomom? Why Octomom and not Chunnelpussy mom?
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They may have stopped killing him, but this kid is still the punching bag for all of South Park and related regions.
And it's not really a stretch to picture the Disney channel or whomever runs the Jonas Brothers handing out purity rings to nine year olds. Indoctrination starts early. -
Where Cartman's Christian band was singing very graphic, yet pious love songs about Jesus? You just gave me a flashback...
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A parody of the Jonas Brothers is like shooting fish in a barrel. Although, South Park hasn't been very good for the last half a decade so at this point I don't expect too much from them.
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They ought to drop the goody-two-shoes act. Nobody wants to see that shit. Boring!
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Sorry to disagree, but you're both wrong. Jonas Brothers are a perfect target. Why? Because EVERYTHING is a perfect target in South Park. In the words of Matt & Trey: 'Either it's all okay or none of it's okay'. I'm looking forward to this :)
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I am absolutely shocked you are writing a post that is critical. Seriously. Never saw that coming.
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it seems obvious that they will bash the jonas brothers - but what will they really be focusing on? like how the britney spears episode was really about the media and the people around her......i don't really care though. any south park is better than no south park
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they are like a new quantum level in transparent corporate bullshit. Ten years ago they'd have been in Josie and the Pussycats as some evil corporate 'band', yet spmehow in today's climate they're actually being accepted. What's with the dead eyes and all the pouting?
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I love the gaps between SP seasons, looking at stupid things that go on in the world and just knowing that another episode of South Park just got written. I'd like to say that they're going to lay off Bale, but my gut says otherwise..
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When they came back for the second half...not episode dedicated to issac. That's meesed up. I know they felt betrayed when he left but he's one of the reasons the show took off in the first place. Kind of rubbed me the wrong way
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Didn't know it was back... hurrah !
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I'm not old by any means (25) but find as I wax philosophical on life and the things i'll miss one day, I'm pretty sure Mr. Parker's commentary is going to be one of those things. I know it's lame to be like 'oh my god, we think alike!!!' but I sometimes think the guy's tapped into my feelings on the world...
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even though there was onnly 2 funny episodes in the awful season 12, im looking foward to this
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I'm kind of surprised at Matt and Trey, honestly. Usually, they tend to make fun of deserving targets, and they're usually not cruel about pop culture entities that don't smack of self-importance. This strikes me as mean-spirited, mocking the Jonas Brothers when the Jonas Brothers haven't really done too terribly much to deserve ridicule. They make fun music and entertain millions of kids. What a crime. The Purity Ring aspect is for them - not for everyone else.
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than the entire twelfth season.
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There's no other show that would do this. And then tossing Mr. Slave in the mix, clearly rubbing his crotch... hilarious.
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Guess they really went for the visual insanity this time around.
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I knew there was a reason I loved Mickey Mouse.
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don't make fun of the poor friggin Jonas Brothers... what did they ever do... boo hoo! Ha! Hahahahah! Friggin Jonas Brothers. Mickey breathing fire was the icing on the cake! Awesome.
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Seriously. I've never fucking heard of them before. This is a real thing?
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They are the mouse's latest Britney style icon.
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And they were accurate about how Disney kind of just went commercial in the 50s. They put out quality stuff, but as soon as that Mickey Mouse Club shit got started, the era began.
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South Park tonight was great. I don't know everyone's beef with the last season, it was good, not the best, but good. I hope they use the Bale incident in some sort of fucked up way. As said before, any South Park is good South Park.
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Pretty good episode. Loved Mickey Mouse in this, and I betcha Disney will be suing, because Mickey is like one of those sacred icons of theirs that they guard with all their might.
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hurry up torrents! I need to see this.
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This had the old magic back.
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The Jonas Brothers are a legit version of the tweeny-bopper bands of the 90s - except that these guys write their own music, play their own instruments, don't lip-sync in concert and are really the same as their image on tv. It's a pity that the SP guys had to attack them without their usual wit - while funny, the episode's efforts to attack the Jonas Brothers fell flat because these guys are just musicians doing their thing, and personally I find them far less affected than Bono/U2, who are far more deserving of this kind of "social issue" slammitude.
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Been done to death. Everyone has done it. South Park is better than jumping on the band wagon.
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What are you, a ten year old girl or something? Do you have pictures of the Jonas Brothers under your pillow? Not that I think they're anything but a bunch talentless, insipid little gaywad Jesus queers, but if you watch the SP episode again, you'll see that it doesn't really make fun of the JB that much. It shows them as non-cynical and genuine. It's Disney that's the target.
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For taking down Disney and The Jonas Douchebags in the same episode. I love it!
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Napoleon, no, I'm not a girl. And I don't have pictures of them anywhere. I just happen to like their M-U-S-I-C.
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Probably my favorite since the Indiana Jones episode. I'm amazed it's taken this long for them to hit Disney, that's been a ripe target for a long time. Well done guys!
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Mar 12, 2009 12:36:15 AM CDT
missed the first half , but what i saw
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
was damn funny
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Is right. The Jonas Brothers were just the tool of Disney here, portrayed as legitimate performers being labeled and marketed evilly. The same could have been done with Hanna Montana, although something tells me Matt and Trey have other plans for Miley Cyrus.
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I looked all this shit up and the foam thing is real and the crotch poster is also real. Ha ha. I like when they are accurate and not pulling things out of there ass when they are satirizing. It's hard to argue with that. And Mickey sold this episode everything he did was hysterical. Ha ha!
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This episode will never get shown again on tv. No way. You don't fuck with the sex selling Mouse. "Ha ha!"
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took over Disney in the 80s and Eisner pimped the shit out of it. oh that's right they dont do any jewish material they just make fun of everyone else. blame the christians! they're stupid. look how funny and edgy I am!
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The worse attacks against the Jonasbro were actually Mickey's abuses and he even called Stan Kyle and Cartman faggots too.
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The best South Parks are the ones that you just KNOW there's going to be a lawsuit waiting in the wings threatening to pull this episode off the air. Same happened with the Scientology episode. Make it contraband and then EVERYONE is going to have to go find it and watch it. I wouldn't be surprised if Disney had a financial stake in the episode if only to profit off of them attacking it. That's the mouse for ya, uh ha!
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prove Mel Gibson wrong, Kyle ...
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consists of . . . a bunch of screaming pre-pubescent girls and . . . 1 masturbating creepy gay guy with paris hilton up his ass. I'm pretty sure creepy older male fans of the jonas bros are going to sue
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to say: that took balls and was great satire/social comment
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Seriously. It was one thing when the last bunch of episodes of South Park were complete shit, but this just stupid. And before you SP apologists talk shit about me mentioning this, you should at realize that a)the guy made all of these points in September in front of an audience largely comprised of their fans and b)Comedy Central is currently running his stand up in New York in which he responds to peoples vitral against him for making these points by putting together a rather intelligent defense. So go ahead, talk shit on me for bringing up the obvious, but do you remember when South Park was a great show? It's been a while. I thought they'd come back after all these months and realize how awful their last bunch of episodes were, but nothing changes. At least it's not "what movie could we make reference to and center a shitty episode around? uh..uh..CLOVERFIELD! yeah!"
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it was a great episode, better than these first two family guys of the new run, heres hoping trey and matt put the boys through a watchmen parody..
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"You faggots get on stage, ha-ha!"
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Had to.
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the jonas concert movie flopped big time so hopefully thats a sign of their end. there's nothing wrong with making music for kids, but at least make real music, not something that sounds like the fake "only on tv hard rockin" music the Saved by the Bell gang made in their episode where they're a band.
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For those of you that were complaining about Trey and Matt taking on the Jonas Bros, they weren't. Plain and simple. It was all about Disney. TJB were just the tool they used to get to Disney since TJB are Disney's most popular tool at the moment.
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that was some funny shit
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Oh, well this time he seemed to have had a 'happy ending'.
So in this episode we learned two things. Don't fuck with the Mouse and Blow Jobs can be deadly.
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I mean, they went full out and viciously parodied Mickey Mouse. They didn't make up a fictitious though obvious analog to Mickey and the Disney company. They actually appropriated the Mickey frickin' Mouse character and the Disney name. And to add further insult, they mocked Grey's Anatomy (which is owned by Disney). WOW. Just WOW -- to hear things like Mickey Mouse calling the Jonas brothers "faggots" and all.
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Mar 12, 2009 7:46:58 AM CDT
The last 5 minutes totally sealed this episode for me.
by shut the fuck up donny
A giant Mickey Mouse floating through the city spewing flames?
"And the great mouse will return to Valhalla until it is time to feast again.."
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I think my favorite part was seeing babies with pacifiers crawling over the seats to get to the Jonas Brothers. But seeing Mickey Mouse kick a Jonas in the balls was a great runner-up.
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Really? "Angst in My Pants" is the best "80s" album ever!
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What?
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Nice start to the season.
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that the Jonas Brothers were interviewed before the Oscar broadcast, appeared on SNL, everywhere you turned (pop culture wise) it was the freakin Jonas Brothers. So, it makes sense that Matt & Trey used them as the tip of the iceburg to take on Disney. The idea that Disney has been using sex, but carefully coded and hidden sex, to sell their product has been around for years. Remember the phallic symbols that were visible in various posters, like The Little Mermaid?BTW, do you think Mickey growing in size and attacking the town was a Dr. Manhattan reference? And as always, you gotta love Butters.."Uhh, whats a BJ?"
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Did anyone else notice that Kenny's picture at the funeral, looked a lot like that Caylee Anthony picture with her hands under her chin? Don't know if it was just me because no one else has talked about it, but was just wondering if anyone else saw that.
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Just kidding. It was another good episode start to finish. Loved the mouse.
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No, it looked more like the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade balloon.
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I have worked in house security for those shows. It IS just like that. They did not show all the parents in the bars or beer gardens getting wasted trying to block out this moment in their life
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Mar 12, 2009 10:35:19 AM CDT
I'm sorry, did someone seriously say they "don't do Jewish mater
by password.swordfish
Have you EVER seen the show?! Dude, you're really not helping your cause by demonstrating complete ignorance. Of course, I don't really want you to help your bigoted cause, so keep up the ignorance! Three cheers for blind bias!!
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One of those types who watches Bill O'Reilly and feels like they are a persecuted minority just because someone somewhere said "Happy Holidays" instead of "Happy Christmas".
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Takes a lot of balls to write real satire these days. That Mickey character is not very far off from the real thing. I hope they keep pushing and pissing people off for many more years to come.
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Uncomfortable, subversive, and really, really funny. I think the politics of the episode were lost on most. They were lampooning Disney more than the Jonas Brothers or Christians or anyone else. This took balls.
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ummm I thought one of the running gags one the show was Cartman making fun of Kyle for being Jewish. Guess I might be living in imagination land and have been watching a different show for 13 years.
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While the Disney/Dreamworks feud is legendary, it's largely just that, a legend of the past. Disney recently signed and agreement to distribute Dreamworks' live action films for the next few years, so the references were a little dated. Still, good episode overall. I'm a big fan of traditional Disney, the films and the parks, but the modern Disney channel and its absurd empire are a site of horror to behold, and its about time people started mocking the company's shameless tween-pimping. By the by, what happened to Eisner? After ruining Disney's live action film division, birthing the failure that is Disney's California Adventure and letting the feature animation division descend into a point where Pixar had to come save them, I think he's become a pariah of sorts in the entertainment business industry. ...Then there were all those direct to video sequels. . .
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Good point Herakles. I guess Cartman is Jewish material as well. Southpark is just a really really important show as these intelligent talkbacks illustrate. V'Shael I aint Christian nor am I Jewish not that it matters. You're a pussy for typing "that SOME Christians are re-tar-ded." You watch the show is it about sugar coating? If you're gonna defend the show defend it. South Park thinks "Christians are retarded." Not SOME but that the fundamental concept, genesis and practice of the religion is bullshit and you have to be stupid to believe in that crap and therefore deserve to be mocked because you're a tool. On the show the more you believe in it the more stupid you are. I'm as atheist and socially moderate as you can get so really I dont care what people believe personally nor do I feel the need to make myself feel superior by slamming people's faith meanspiritedly like SP does, but it's actually pretty funny that with anyone who disagrees with you... you automatically go to compare him to your "satan" Bill O'Reilly. I must be hopped on prescription drugs and molest my interns right? Clearly I'm a badguy with political badthink. Cuz I have a different opinion from you. But I guess it shows you the intellect and maturity level of South Park purists.
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while I was typing out my reply to V'Shael. As I say South Park viewers are smart. Cartman is Jewish material of course. I stand corrected because mentioning Jew in a sentence is in fact equivalent to lampooning Judaism's excesses in the same manner Stone and Parker go after Christianity, Scientology and other faiths they disapprove of. One is attacking the integrity of a religion, other is a kid acting stupid saying dumb things but of course that's Jewish material. Also Kyle's cousin is Jewish so that's more Jewish material. Thanks for clearing that up. Also pointing out Mel Gibson is a douche... haha ripping satire and commentary on Jews SP touche well done! Also I think I saw Kenny licking an icecream one episode so that's a commentary on the National Dairy Council. That South Park how do they THINK of it. wipes tear from eyes
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Mar 12, 2009 12:36:21 PM CDT
trey and matt threw in a few ways of dodging lawsuits
by logicalnoise01
little things like never saying "mickey" "mouse" together they did say "mickey minouse" but again changed it up a bit to keep with a razor thin margin of parody and infringment.
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I always saw South Park at ripping on fundamentalism in any religion. They attack people not for their beliefs, but for the unethical and immoral way in which some extremely
religious people manipulate their beliefs to fuel their own agenda. The abstinence thing is a part of that, as I know people who have attended Catholic school who were taught blatant lies such as condoms provide no protection for STDs. Such fundamentalists NEED to be lampooned, as far as I'm concerned.
However in this case, did you watch the show? I thought it obviously came down against the way in which corporations like Disney exploit Christian values for their own gain. I didn't get the anti-Christian vibe at all. The "Christians are re-tar-ded" comment was exactly what you just mentioned: a kid acting stupid, saying dumb things.
These guys have ridiculed all religions, at one point or another (except maybe the Eastern religions like Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, ect - possibly because we're not faced with the hypocrisy of such religions on a daily basis). -
...but then realized how boring you are...
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Thats one I'd like to see...
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WTF!?! Dude - What about the "Mecha-Streisand" (giant Barbara Streisand terrorizes the town), "Jewbilee" (makes fun of Jewish mysticism) and "The Entity" (Kyle has a cousin who is a Woody Allen clone) episodes? Anyway, they don't really go that hard after the Christians either - just the ones who try to make a buck in Jesus' name.
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Or when Santa brought Christmas to Iraq? Take your pick.
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Disney. I mean most people know by now the character had personality and was developing into a crazy little bastard before he became Disney mascot and Mr. Perfect. I have some DVDs of Disney's classic shorts. Leonard Maltin admits several times in it that Donald was always the better character. As for the Disney Channel. It's asinine garbage and I always stay far away from it. There never seems to be anyone older then 15 on it. But i feel that way about most cable networks now. Especially the ones that used to have cartoons on it.
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for practically every episode, it's funny only for half of the story. the 2nd subplot always feel like filler. the same with the movie with the sadam in hell.
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You contradicted yourself a few times there. Don't want to make anything of it. Just an observation.
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i love it when they rip on genuine douchebags like that john edward(of 'crossing over') and sadam. but i hate it when they act like they're right even when they're wrong. smoking is bad. poor people can find other ways to relax even if they dont have rob reiner's money. and yes, global warming is not a myth. matt & trey should make cartoon characters of themselves in one episode and have cartman kick their asses.
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The boys attack everyone they think is abusing their power, or manipulating people for their own gains. And anyone who thinks this was an attack on Christianity, is REALLY missing the boat. This was an attack on Disney's complete manipulation of Christians for their own financial gains.
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I've been thinking about that too. The one most conspicuous thing that separates South Park from nearly every other comedy show is that they very, very rarely ever mock themselves. I'd like to see Stone and Parker acknowledge their hypocrisy in an episode with caricatures of themselves, snobbily snarking on everyone while being a couple of overpaid dorks themselves.
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..just accuse South Park of not doing any "Jewish material"? Are you fucking kidding?
Oh, they only make Jew jokes in about .. hmm ... 70% of all episodes, that's all. Including blatant Jewish stereotypes in several characters. You fucking moron. -
Mr. Slave rubbing his ball bag to little boys
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..they relate more to Cartman as of late. They may be rich as fuckin Midas, but they certainly aren't happy. I think Trey Parkers sense of humor is the only thing that keeps him afloat mentaly. Without it, he'd be in an insane asylum faster than you could say Mother. That's no way to live.
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Anyway, this is to Rufferto. First off, thanks for not being a dick about it (that may sounds sarcastic, but it's not). I'm too used to people on this site going on the attack instantly. Secondly, I think the confusion may be that I was talking about the show as a whole, and then the specific episode (and then the show on the whole again). The points were separated in fancy paragraphs (ooooooh!), and it may have been more clear then (stupid lack of formatting). Out of curiosity, if you still see discrepancies, could you point them out? Sometimes people take something the wrong way, and sometimes they see things that you miss yourself. I'd appreciate the feedback.
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in Cartoon Wars. Something about them being preachy and up their own asses. But point taken, it's not very often.
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Y'all realize Mickey Mouse isn't real, right?
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Cartoon Wars made fun of radical Islam.
I took the episode, and the "Christian's are re-tar-ded" comment the same way password.swordfish did. They make fun of anybody, and running that line doesn't make them hateful of Christianity. Stone/Parker have publicly explained their views on religion: they are all ridiculous and based on absurd stories, but the most absurd idea to them is that we're all here "Just because." -
The "Butt Out" episode wasn't saying that smoking is okay. It was saying that its not anybody's place but your own to decide if you're going to smoke, and that people like Rob Reiner force their own views onto others when they have no right to. I'm not a smoker, but I think its horse shit that the government has decided it can tell a private business that it can't allow smoking in its establishment. You don't like second hand smoke? Go to bars that don't allow it.
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Blasphemer! The Mouse lives.
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because I'm old
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I wasn't expecting Mickey Mouse to turn up,excellent,cartoon characters dishing out a good kicking worked for me :>.....
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I'm not your buddy,guy!!!
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I too was not expecting Mickey Mouse to appear. Sure, this show has attacked Hollywood sacred cows, but, I can't fully explain, Mickey Mouse was one of the personalities I least expected them to tackle. I don't know why -- I guess maybe it's because he's the mascot representing one of the major, powerful studio rivals to the parent of Comedy Central. And they totally ripped not only the Disney company, but Grey's Anatomy, too. So this definitely wasn't an attack on the Jonas directly, but on the Disney company overall.
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To clarify, I meant that by ripping on Grey's, it showed they were attacking the overall Disney media conglomerate.
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"Bay-bay!" Jonas Brothers actually squirt foam on their audiences. Like they're The Stones from the mid-seventies or Prince from 1985. Glad their fifteen minutes are up. In a year or two, one (which one's the cute one, again?) will join Ted Nugent, Billy Corgan, a back-up singer from the touring version of Matchbox Twenty and one of the other guys from Cheap Trick to form a "supergroup."
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...but not very funny either. It's just not the genius show it once was. By going on for so long past its prime, it's fallen out of my "top five shows of all time" list and will soon fall out of my top ten. The last good scene in this show was when Randy got the internet back (classic). Oh and maybe Randy losing his pants and TV over celebrating Obama's win. Both were flashes in the pan, however.
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but that's not all the episode's about. they went on about how the tobacco company actually help the economy, provide jobs and resposible for bringing slaves over from africa. they basically turn the episode into a mouthpiece for the industry. never mind big tobacco lied about the danger of nicotine, never mind they specifically target teens and women. never mind all that, rob reiner is an evil fat bastard, and big tobacco is the misunderstood patriot.
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They're gonna go the route of Hanson most likely. Relative obscurity, but at least they seem happy making their own music. Problem is you have to 11 to like it.
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Mar 13, 2009 11:55:18 AM CDT
I love how you just don't know where the ep will go
by performingmonkey
Who would have thought Mickey would show up?? This was the funniest episode for ages. The second half of last season sucked.
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but the boys worship terrance & philip. so that doesn't count. they need cartman to kick they asses once in a while.
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after watching this show
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It wasn't about being a mouthpiece for the industry, it was perfectly in line with every other libertarian message this show tries to get across. It's about being for personal freedom because everyone else is too fucking retarded to put your fate into their hands. And EVERY authority figure on this show is portrayed as a retard. Some people think this show is liberal or conservative, but once you understand that it's libertarian, the messages are pretty consistent and not contrarian for the sake of being contrary. The only other show that comes close is Penn and Teller's Bullshit.
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After writing absolutely nothing and pretending it means something.
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I must admit, after finding HD Simpsons sorta annoying the HD South Park was actually a lot easier to watch
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it IS a mouthpiece for the big tobacco, or did you miss the scene where the boys take the factory tour? but even ignoring that, their argument is you could CHOOSE to give yourself and everyone around you lung cancer because, hey, it's all about personal freedom. great! if i choose to inject my body with heroine then no drug dealers should be punished. it's my choice, my freedom. and nobody should force you off the road when you're driving drunk. my choice, my freedom.
'retards' the authority may be, we still need them protect us once in a while.
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Just my opinion, but to those on the board that are saying "Why attack the Jonas Bros? They keep to themselves... blah blah blah...", I recommend you watch the episode again. In truth, SP didn't really attack the Jonas Bros much at all.
Now personally, I think the JB's are corporate sellout douchebags at best. But that's me. I'm not Trey or Matt and I don't speak for them. But regardless of how I view them, the reality is that they were really more portrayed as innocent victims in this episode than as "the bad guys".
Mickey/Disney was the real bad guy. I think the point they were trying to make was that corporations like Disney are just as evil and greedy as any other company, but people like to defend Disney because they sugar-coat their corruption with things like "Purity Rings" and "Christian Values" and other BS. And the idiots of the world buy into it (literally BUY into it) and continue to flock to the local Crap-Marts to buy yet another Disney Princess dvd for their daughter, or the cinematic abortion that was "Cars" for little Trevor and Madison.
In fact, the Jonas Bros characters in the episode actually tried to stand up to Mickey Mouse and said "We don't want to sell sex to little girls", and Mickey kicked the crap out of them. So really they were more victims in this episode than antagonists.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents on the matter. Again, I personally have no problem with people bashing the JB's (note "JB" is "BJ" backwards, not sure if that was intentional or not). But the fact is they simply weren't bashed in the episode. At least they weren't bashed any further than being a gay boy band, but really, name one boy band today that isn't gay. -
If you choose to inject heroin, then yes, no drug dealers should be punished. Why should they be punished for a decision you made? The same is true of smoking. And second hand smoke is mostly in your control. You don't have to live with a smoker. You don't have to patronize businesses that permit smoking. And catching a whiff of it outdoors sure ain't gonna give you lung cancer. As for drunk driving, that's not a personal choice if it endangers others, we're talking "personal" choices here. "Big tobacco" may have told lies, and that's fraud, but nobody in their right might could believe that inhaling smoke was somehow good for you, so it comes across as disingenuous to blame them now. They're no worse than the "big food" companies giving everyone the diabetes.
Perhaps there should be two sets of laws in society. One set for those who feel they need to be protected from themselves and another set for the grown ups who accept responsibility for their own actions. No doubt, most people would choose to be in the latter set. As for the so-called authorities, they clearly do more harm than good, so I'll take my chances without their "protection." All evil in society stems from the coercion of others. ALL evil, NO exceptions. You're preaching a much more evil philosophy that the tobacco companies ever have. -
just like you said, if it endangers others, then it's not a matter of personal choice anymore. cops pull over drunk drivers. you're saying the authority in this case is wrong? so how does forcing smokers out of non-smokers's way any different? i think it's becuase you belittle the effect of the secondhand smoke. just because it doesn't kill you on the spot like a car crash might, doesn't mean it cannot kill you still.
and big tobacco "may have told lies", you said? MAY HAVE? did you miss the part where the supreme court made them pay for being outright liars?
the only reason tobacco is not yet banned is not because the authority favor personal freedom of choice, but becuase the tobacco lobby gives money to politicians all the time. some $100.000 a day i read. -
bars can still be bars and serve beers without the room being filled with cigarette smoke. smokers can still smoke in the comfort of their own home. and non smokers can still enjoy beer in a bar without fear of lung cancer. isn't that a win win for everyone?
why is that so appaling? you want to drive, then dont get drunk. you want to enjoy beer in public place, then dont spread cancer. it's that simple. -
You already have Stan Kyle, that's them.
Besides, what are these other shows that mock themselves? Seth MacFarlane seems pretty openly in love of himself. -
the jews control everything...kill yourself
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...because when you smoke a cigarette, and exhale the smoke, it instantly spreads cancer to anybody who comes in contact with it. Breathe in a little second-hand smoke; You're a fucking dead man. Also, great comparison! Smoking a cigarette IS exactly the same as impairing your vision and judgment and driving a vehicle. No difference.
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And yeah, Happy Boy is a Nazi bastard. "Judaism's excesses" indeed...
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