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It’s Pilot Season And George Lucas Has Begun Casting His Live-Action STAR WARS Series!!
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“A lot of my friends have been auditioning for it,” “Damages” star Rose Byrne told MTV during the “Knowing” junket.
“It” is George Lucas’ looming live-action “Star Wars” TV series, set between “Revenge of the Sith” and “A New Hope.”
According to MTV’s story, the series will focus on the rise of the rebel alliance.
Byrne, you’ll recall, replaced Keira Knightly in the Amidala entourage in “Attack of the Clones.”
So which newly available actors and actresses should Lucas be looking at? Some the dead and soon to be dead girls from “Lost”? One suspects a good chunk of the casts of “Friday Night Lights,” “Life,” “Knight Rider,” and “The Sarah Connor Chronicles” could soon be available.
Adrianne Palicki as Han’s snotty older sister? Selma Blair as a Wookie slaver? James Spader as the harried mayor of Coruscant City?
Find all of MTV’s story on the matter here.
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No, but seriously. I cannot wait to see how this turns out!
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Who gives a fuck?
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I'm hoping Lucas focuses the show on Jar Jar...
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I've enjoyed the cartoon so there may be hope for this.I hope they don't stoop to having entire episodes on a ship with a broken hyperdrive or that sort of thing....I won't lie,I'll watch it even if it is crap.........Cedric Daniels as a Jedi.
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as long as it's not as kiddy as the clone wars cartoons...
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Man, that is fucking DEEP! John Locke as John Locke.
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Oh snap!
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i hope none of the friday night lights cast,need another season
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I'd do her.
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According to EW...but only if they get a two season pick-up...I don't know if that would be full 22 episode seasons or the half season of 12 we're getting now. Either way that would be awesome.
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About two years ago I think I remember hearing something about this project attempting to get underway. I found that a bunch of people were trying to 'professionally' entice Lucas to use new blood to bring the live action series to life. After searching around I found this short film http://tinyurl.com/dhef7g which after congratulating the creators turned out to be one of the front runners of this live action series. turned out not to go anywhere but its great to hear that lucas is starting this up again.
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EVERYTHING Star Wars lately has been utter SHIT. This will probably follow suit.
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March 10, 2009, 8:51 p.m. CST
Gee wiz George, how about something a bit more original...
by evilseabass
For example, how about something that takes place AFTER episode 6 for a change! I like to think that I speak for more than myself when I say this, but I'm really getting sick of the stories about this time-line because WE ALREADY KNOW HOW IT ENDS!!! Move on already. Darth Vader dies at the end, the rebellion succeeds! Got it. What happens next?
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A 2x4. Search your feelings, you know this to be true.
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Read the damn words people!
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Didn't the same actor play Darth Vader's apprentice in one of the games? Is that set in the same time period? He's the right age to be a bad ass in a show like this and he's so far been good on Smallville. Is this a possible crossover? Also I hope Sarah Connor doesn't get cancelled!
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perfect time period for the TV series...the time between Sith and New Hope should be very dark and filled with cool Siths and hope for the future with the beginning of the Rebel alliance...although I heard it won't make it to TV until 2010 at the earliest
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Now that's what I call podracing. Need I go on?
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Has a great premise, but since Last Crusade, every single thing Lucas has done has been total utter shit. I really wish Lucas would step away and hand it over to Timothy Zahn or Kevin J Anderson. Their novels captured the spirit of the original movies, they could do a much better job than what's left of Lucas.
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No, you hath said enough.
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They're aiming for "at least" two 13-episode seasons, and inside sources for both EW and E! Online say that it's looking very good so far. Fingers crossed.
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With "Clone Wars" I know the clones will turn on the Jedi, so I don't like them. I know Anakin betrays Obi Wan so I don't like him. I know anakin's padawan gets killed, so I don't want to get attached to her. It just doesn't work well when you know what fate awaits your characters. How will this not be a problem with the new series? That said, It had damn well better be "The Adventures of Wedge Antilles and Rogue Squadron"
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like the Clone Wars?
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THERE WAS THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY? THAT WAS ONE OF THE GREASTEST THINGS ABOUT STAR WARS. JUST 3 AWESOME FILMS THAT CHANGED SCI FI AND MADE YOU WANT MORE. THEY STOOD AS EXAMPLES OF HOLLYWOOD AT ITS BEST. SURE THERE WAS MERCHANDISING AND NON CANON CARTOON SHOWS AND ONE TIME EWOK SPECIALS HERE AND THERE BUT THEY WERE LIKE A EXAMPLE OF HOW TO RUN A GOOD FRANCHISE. NOT TO OVERSELL OR HYPE IT BUT LET IT BE DISCOVERED BY GENERATIONS OVER THE YEARS. NOW ITS ALL GONE TO HELL. NOW ITS JUST ANOTHER QUICK CASH GRAB. YHAT ASS MUST BE SORE FROM ALL THE RAPING OVER THE YEARS
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and please no kids stories.......
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I think that would make a better series. Having Vader hunt down the remaining Jedi out in the galaxy, with close encounters with Kenobi. I think he shouldn't have an easy time of it either.
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March 10, 2009, 9:16 p.m. CST
This takes me back to an episode 3 contest by Quint
by Stereotypical Evil Archer
Remember that contest?
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2010?...think premiere January 2011 together with Jack Bauer in one package....
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cause Kenny Fuckin Powers needs something to watch when he eats pot brownies and snorts ludes.
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Ney, he has no balls. He spent twenty years tampering with the original to be re-released in the '90s as the "Special Edition". Then he made the prequels which, in the long run, were devoid of any tension whatsoever, as ALL prequels usually are (you already know what happens in the end). And everything thereafter has been set in the prequelverse. Why doesn't he strap on some damn balls and do a sequel trilogy? I mean, if I have to hear of another Star Wars, I'd rather it be a sequel than Lucas going back to the same dry well to chizzle away at the rocky bottom. What, was Palpatine the only badass power-tripper in the universe? There were no more threats to confront after him? Or did Lucas hate his creation so much he had to bastardize it for 3 excrutiating films and several animated turds? Does Lucas think this show will actually survive after one season? The only way that will happen is if he turns it into a kids show on ABC family, like Power Rangers. Kids will watch anything.
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Personally more interested in seeing what happened afterwards, Zahn etc had a good go at it.
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It will eat Star Wars. Count on it!!
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Especially when they're forced by the narrative to be almost completely about characters who can't affect the outcome of the story arc at all - 'cos we know who the main protagonists are already and what happens to them. Still, with any luck most of the episodes will be based on Tatoinne, are we'll get to see some hard core moisture farming!
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...why don't you grab up some of the finest actors and actresses in Sci-Fi television history for this project?
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...when we don't really know what the show will be about. All we have is vague hints.
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Follow a couple of characters like Han and Chewie, smugglers or whatever, keep out comedy, keep it dark while still being fun. You know we'll all watch no matter what. And you know this will suck badly.
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I'd rather actors from BSG -- a good show -- not be associated with this. I say that because BSG created real tension and intrigue. You don't quite know where the story is going and it's exciting (most times) to watch it unfold. Like TenThousandBears said, this show will be about characters and events that won't be allowed to affect the outcome of the story arc. For all the disappointed BSG fans who want nothing but space battles, special effects, and worthless characters, this one's for them.
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I think Sawyer fron Lost would make a great tramp freighter captain.
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should be in it
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Take it a step further. The Star Wars reality/comedy prequel series focusing on the Palpatine family: father Greg Palpatine, his wife Jennifer, the kids Enos and Ammonia. 8 year old Enos grows up to start a political career leading to...oh fuck it. At least I know when to stop. George will probably read this and run with the concept, so I'd better not add more.
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So this is STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE meets the Rebel Alliance? Will it have a lame ballad in the opening credits instead of the John Williams theme music?
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Just have someone other than George Lucas cast a good group of unknown actors who actually have some damn talent. Cause then you wouldn't have egos that will get to big if the show is quality and stays popular. Cause you could have lil side cameo appearance by current members of the SW universe, and that'd be awesome. Listen to Patton Oswalt, "we don't need to see where everything we love came from", just show us new stuff to love please.
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anyone heard more on that? I hope to hell it's not true. As for BSG folks... please no. It needs to be unknowns like the original trilogy. Adding 'names' like SLJ, Ewan McGregor, and Liam Neeson did not help the prequels (although they were some of the only good parts)
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What do you get when you pair up a sith lord and underling to the ruler of the galaxy and a chimpanzee? It's "Vader and the Bear"! Follow Darth Vader and his monkey friend the Bear as they take one madcap voyage across the galaxy! The crazy misadventures of this zany duo is great fun for the whole family! This fall on FOX!
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With all the talk about BSG popping up in this talkback and what's going to happen with all those actors. <p> This is something that myself and my brother have though of since we started trying to write a spec script for a fourth X-Men movie. This makes sense within the context of our story since we manage to find a way to keep Cyclops alive. Anyways, we think Jamie Bamber who currently play Apollo on BSG would be an absolutely perfect replacement for James Marsden in the series as Cyclops. What do you guys think, good or bad move? <p> Also, this sounds like a really dumb idea for a TV series. At least set it in the times after episode 6, make it about the people trying to rebuild the republic, Luke Skywalker rebuilding the jedi council, Han Solo and Chewbacca continuing the be awesome. That would be something worth watching!
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And for kids. Watch and see. Just like The Clone Wars cartoon. <p> I would not be expecting anything as gritty or fresh of the latest incarnation of BSG. <p> In all likelihood it will be simply terrible, painful watching.
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And just one cooool cat.
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Like sand! Sand isn't soft. I hate sand. You're soft though, can I smell your hair?
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A series like this has the potential to be all kinds of awesome..but will mostly suck with GL in charge. <p> I met him once, mind you, but he was a bit of a douch.
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March 10, 2009, 10:01 p.m. CST
Actually, Lucas has cited BSG as an inspiration for this series
by SifoDyasJr.
Which is highly ironic considering all the lawsuits over the original series. I have a good feeling about this. And I've enjoyed Clone Wars quite a bit--not perfect, but not bad either.
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Either show Yoda when he was like 90 years old and there's nobody else we'd know, or show after Luke, Han, and Leia are dead. Tell us stories where we don't already know how it ends. (Yoda at 90 was like 800 years before Episode 1--who knows what happened back then?)
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Now I do, and knowing is half the battle.
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If they are considering that video game as part of the official storyline then I would imagine we would see Starkiller as Vader's apprentice. Rumor is that actor, who plays Doomsday on Smallville will be leaving the show soon. I would certainly watch a show based on this character. They would need to show the massive force powers he has though. My only thought though is the fact that this character's story has basically been told in the game already. Regardless, there should be some jedi or sith action. I don't want to see young Han or Luke as a kid growing up. Knowing Lucas, that's exactly what we're gonna get.
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<p>Star Wars. One of my most beloved things of all time. I'm 34, so Star Wars and Empire were pure mainline magic to me.</p> <p>Sadly, like alot of people, I'm extremely close to just writing it off forever. But I don't want to. There's some tiny, irrepressible part of me that still wants to love Star Wars, but that stubborn bastard Lucas seems intent on personally keeping me from doing so.</p> <p>There were parts of ROTS that got extremely close. To me, it was the only one of the prequels that actually felt like it belonged up there with the originals. Looking at it in a fair way, I have just as many issues with Jedi as I do Sith. But that's an argument for another forum.</p> <p>Anyway, sometimes, something will come along, like the FIRST Clone Wars animated, or the KOTOR games, that make me see that glimmer, that hope of something Star Wars that can still be new AND awesome.</p> So, this, in my mind, is Lucas' last chance to really redeem alot of the damage he's wreaked with people in my "demographic" by unabashedly turning the franchise into a Disney-feeling mess. I know, I know...it doesn't "matter", but I think alot of folks are in with me on this.</p> <p>But, I'll say that I have read that this is the goal...make the show serious...targeted at the original fanbase...something akin to an HBO style series. So. I'm going to try and keep an open mind about this. At least it's not rows or Droids shooting at rows of Clones for an hour.</p> <p>Because I WANT to like Star Wars again. That's all...</p>
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Lucas is notorious for not giving fans what they want to see. Let us see Bobba Fett slaying the jedi? Nope Let us see young Vader kicking jedi ass? NOPE If there are no classic characters in this it will fail with dismal ratings. Nobody wants to see new characters. We want to see Vader and the emporer. Lucas has the option...give the fans what we want to see and it could possibly be the highest rated program of all time. Don't do it and you got another Young Indy on your hands
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March 10, 2009, 10:14 p.m. CST
....can't they do a fucking SEQUEL instead of fucking PREQUELS?!
by Mike_D
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as it is aimed at adults, an HBO sort of galactic Deadwood/Sopranos deal, dealing with Boba and the bounty hunters, touring the underbellys of the galaxies shit holes, it will rule. Even you haters would jump on board with that. Maybe. However its more likey to be based around some good looking rebel allaince twat. I don't care Ill watch the fuck out of it anyway, I LIKED the prequels.
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<p>Just wanted to point out that if there's one thing Empire Strikes Back taught us, it's that Yoda is a physical, dexterous, athletic ass-kicker that will whip out the lightsaber and do some Nightcrawler-style acrobatics on some Sith at a moments notice.</p> <p>At least that was MY impression from Dagobah.</p>
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a rumour that it would be a more "adult" show at one point?
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How did they ever get him to agree to do that holiday special?
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<p>My initial thoughts on The Clone Wars CGI show was "if they are going to do CGI, why not do post-Jedi? It addresses the aging issue with the originals, and it's new story as well..."</p> <p>Really, it's the perfect way to go post-6 unless you go with an old cast or jump past them entirely.</p>
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I hope it's good but I've almost given up on Lucas all together.
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Cocaine
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January 2011?...Jack Bauer will have had his final day before that...you heard it here first, next season will be the last for 24
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There's no way this will be good. You know it to be true.<p> Let the grieving process run its course and just let it go.
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--Jedi with a plaid lightsaber.
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for anything!!
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awesome!
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Good or bad. Big talkbacks usually only happen with things that end up making a load of money in Hollywood. This talkback is already exploding and the show is only in casting stages. I expect to see this show do well. This show and the animated Clone Wars will serve as the springboards for Lucas to FINALLY pass the torch to tell other stories in other eras of the Star Wars Univers.
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if youre going to do scifi on tv, you need singing space hippies and a scene where the main hero has a midget ride him like a pony.
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if Lucas does not do a good job with this it will not last long. I think the fans have had enough of shitty star wars.
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Everyone wants those not another low budget green screen everywhere TV series. Or at least throw us a bone and give us a movie between Eps3-4 call it Ep3.5 and show us Vader slaughtering the rebel alliance. No-one is waiting for a SW TV series trust the fans on this one George. The same ones who did not see your SW cartoons will not see this. Fox even rejected your Clone Wars movie as they knew the demand was just not there. Or how about give Harrison Ford a big profit share only payday to play Han Solo again as he would be interested if you promise to kill his character off like you should have in ROJ!
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I hear that. I happen to like the Clone Wars. For the platform it is delivered on and who it is marketed to, it is a pretty decent serial. We can see in the stories that he is letting go of the reigns and trusting other people in his universe. I like getting to know the clones and it makes it THAT much more devastating when their hard-wired programming makes them turn on the Jedi in Ep3. Lucas is getting old and Star Wars has the potential to be "forever". So much can be done with stories done by other riders. Like mentioned somewhere above, Timothy Zahn captured that feeling. Hopefully an aging Lucas will let go and let others continue the work.
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Or some stories set years after Return of the Jedi? It is just not fun anymore when we already know what fate awaits those characters
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THIS MUST HAPPEN!!!!
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I think fans would be more for a show that COMPLETELY seperates itself from the time period of the film. In Star Wars there will always be Jedi and the Darkside, but if they shifted time periods to characters that nobody knows then they have a completely malleable world to work with. One of the things that does bother me about the prequels and the Clone Wars series is that it is bound by what we already know. Take the timeline a couple thousand years into the past or a few hundred years after RotJ and run a story from there. THAT would be GREAT!!
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What fucking don't you understand Obi wan! What the fuck is it with you Yoda!
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must be a central part of this series. MUST.
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http://www.swtor.com/index.php So unless they coincide a show with the game....
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yeah I like clone wars too, I just can't bring myself to watch them anymore. I was suprised for sure when I first started watching, just for some reason I just can't get motivated to keep tuning in.<p>like someone said earlier if they put Vader in this I think it would be a hit. But I just don't think he'll do that. It would make sense cause he was the main bad guy before ANH. Leia knew who he was he was infamous.
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I have two boys ages 5 and almost 4. I have a built in excuse to TiVO The Clone Wars and buy the toys lol.
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special need to be incorporated into this...bea arthur! harvey corman! lumpy!
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Well that makes sense. I think the Clone Wars has that same great pace and excitment that the OT had. That pace was lost on the PT. I'm glad to see that returned to SW. I guess I don't watch as much cause it does feel geared more toward a younger audience.
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If the show followed IG-88 from his creation up to where he ends up in that scrap pile in Cloud City, I would watch it.
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Since Lucas approved it as "canon" for the founding of the rebels. Then again, he may focus it on Jar-Jar just to screw with everyone.
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he's got to deliver the goods on this or it's over. Actually for most people it's been over for a long time.
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he's got to deliver the goods on this or it's over. Actually for most people it's been over for a long time.
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but not on a show about the rebellion?
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God I hope not. Keep those actors away from each other. Everyone is SO boring and unemotive I'm not sure who's a Terminator anymore, in fact the Terminator girl actually has the most personality out of the whole cast.
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22 year old Kiwi Dan Logan would be great as an up-and-coming bounty hunter. At least have him on as a recurring character.
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if lucas fucks ups ONE more time, i'll be left with no choice... but to keep eating up all of his shit he shovels down my throat.
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And I was bullshitting with Shattner backstage before I came out after him. I said to him: "If you give me 20 bucks I'll go slap Lucas for you." He almost screwed up his lines at rehearsal. I would've done it too.
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Nooooooooooooooo!!! What the hell? When did that happen. Shit! Love that show.
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Episode 3. I know the whole story now. So I ain't going back to it until lucas decidses to show me something after episode 6 and not stories that won't matter and characters I can give a rasts ass about that aren't in the main movies anyway that don't change the outcome of the end of the empire. Show me the new jedi order and the new republic and the further adventures of luke damn it
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Episode 3. I know the whole story now. So I ain't going back to it until lucas decidses to show me something after episode 6 and not stories that won't matter and characters I can give a rasts ass about that aren't in the main movies anyway that don't change the outcome of the end of the empire. Show me the new jedi order and the new republic and the further adventures of luke damn it. Anyone who watches this deserves what they get just like rhianna for going back with o.j.'s padawan
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That has to be it.
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George lucas is wringing every fucking dollar he can out of this Starwats bullshit. Lets Face it guys, SW died in 1984.
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March 10, 2009, 11:48 p.m. CST
Are Scorpius and Jothee of Farscape still attached to this?
by Shermdawg
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This... sounds... awesome...<p> They really do need to get Spader. That would probably make my life.
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I always thought Jamie Bamber from BSG could play Luke Skywalker's kid or something. For some reason he reminds me of Jedi era Luke.
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Yeah, I gotta agree with you for the most part... Empire (and Raiders) was Lucas' greatest work. Like you, I personally liked much of Sith - kinda on par with Jedi which is also uneven but enjoyable. <P> The only thing I'd add is that while the original trilogy is sacred, like today, much of the SW spin off stuff back then was weak. People get all upset over Clone Wars, but if one looks back there were shitty Ewoks and Droids cartoons that came way too late after the conclusion of the original trilogy... and those Ewok live action MOWs were no great hell either. <P> So really not much had changed.
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I would like to see the Captain of the Serenity in the new Star Wars TV Show instead of that terrible detective shop, Castle. It just ain't right. But then I saw Captain Sisko from DS9 on Zack and Cody or iCarley
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I'd like to see the story of a young Imperial who aspires to be a tie fighter pilot. Perhaps he becomes disenfranchised and joins up with the fledgling Rebellion after witnessing Imperial atrocities. Of course this guy is Han Solo.
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Herc, why the zero amount of Clone Wars coverage the past five months?! It's hands-down the best show on television, and I don't recall that you've ever once reported on any of the new episodes.
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Rumors have indicated that Danial Logan would reprise his role as Boba Fett, of course, that was several years ago, but I for one am fine with that notion. It's good to hear that progress is being made on this show, and hopefully, it will turn out well. Also, people, please stop talking about how "fucking awesome" The Force Unleashed was and how the show should be based on the game. It a retarded piece of shit, ok? Yeah, it was a fun game, but let's move on and forget it about it, ok? It doesn't need to be a tv show.
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March 11, 2009, 12:34 a.m. CST
Also, I really hope the series shows some positvie Imperial aspe
by Gungan Slayer
Something that the Clone Wars has completely failed to do is to show the CIS's point of view in an accurate manner. Why are the separating from the Republic? What are their beliefs? Remember, the opening scroll for episode III said that there "heroes on both sides" yet, thus far, I've only seen the Republic win battles, while the Separatists are always portrayed as stupid, bumbling fools, who are evil for evil's sake. The live action series MUST SHOW people WHO BELIEVE in the EMPIRE, because there were many that did. It would also be nice to show the POSITIVE things the Empire brought to the Galaxy, because it wasn't all just terror and destruction.
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is a vapid boring shit-fest designed to sell toys to 8 year olds, with atrocious boring animation and lackluster story lines. Lucas needs to turn this shit over to someone who gives a fuck. That fat chinless bastard needs to take get out.
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He could build on his Serenity character. Castle will get canceled soon enough. It's getting bad reviews and it hasn't even come out yet. Bad sign. I think Lucas should do Episodes 7-9 too. Maybe he will change his mind. Hopefully Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamil wont have retired or died by the time Lucas decides to get around to it though.
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I just gave up on this franchise after seeing Menace at the theaters. That movie just killed it for me and I had no interest in seeing the other prequels at the theaters and don't own any of them on DVD. At this point it would take a kick ass showrunner and an awesome cast to get me to tune in. But it sounds like Lucas is running the show, so I guess I'll have to wait til he dies to see an interesting new Star Wars show/movie.
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Seriously. Summer Glau could play any character in the Star Wars universe. She's got the multiethnic look, she can be human or nonhuman. And she kicks ass. What character should she play?
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A little bit of Hensons creature shop, as in the good animatronics on farscape and not the lame ones. Hell, getting David Kemper to help out the showrunner and getting Wayne Pygram to play Tarkin wouldn't hurt either.
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Because the show will probably have just as many flaws!
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I've got it all planned out; the pilot episode begins Luke and Obi Wan leaving the farm after finding baconated Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru. They head off to Mos Eisley cantina.<p> The next 6 episodes will be a shot of the guys riding in the landspeeder until they reach the cantina.<p> Episode 8 they meet Han and make the deal for passage.<p> The next 4 years worth of episodes will be everyone in the Falcon on the way to the nearest moon when their FTL drives break.
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This past episode almost moved me to tears with how well the emotional undercurrents of the clones Waxer and Boil, and the little girl Numa were so delicately handled. Give me more!
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"George Lucas was a great man... but that was another life." DUN, DUUUUN!
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March 11, 2009, 1:18 a.m. CST
It's going to be Dancing with the Stars or American Idol
by Domi'sInnerChild
set at Jabba's pad. Search your feelings, you know it's true.
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make it happen George and I will forgive you for Jar Jar Binks!
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and he has a plan!
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Summer Glau as Mrs. Lobot
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The last truly great SW he made was TESB. After that, it was a cruel downward slope into a pile of steaming sith.
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March 11, 2009, 1:55 a.m. CST
Boomer and all the other spare number 8's
by Taking_it_up_the_exhaust_port
Could be a race of naked female Juddi warriors, that feature all the time, in every episode..... I'd watch that.... I'd watch that a lot!
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Lobot and his crew solve crimes and keep Cloudians safe using the latest hi-tech forensics. <p> In his off-duty life, Lobot plays tetris on his head piece and has a friendly rivaly with Zorba the Hutt to see who can get the top score of all time!
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Zemeckis can do mo-cap CGI really well, and just gets better and better at it. The only way to do Episodes 7,8,9 is to go so far in the future it is all new characters (and why bother, especially since so much of the future is mapped out in the novels) or you do feature the characters we want to see (Luke, Han, Leia, Wedge, Lando, Chewie, and mother-fucking-R2D2) with the original actors doing mo-cap but appearing younger via the magic of animation.<p>Film the Zahn trilogy. Call the Zahn trilogy 7,8,9. Lucas would never sign off on anyone else creating official episodes when he didn't create the story, except that Zahn worked very closely with Lucas on his trilogy, and it is fucking incredible.<p>Who doesn't want to see Thrawn, Karrde, Mara Jade, C'boath, etc. on the big screen?
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the best thing to happen to star wars since the end of rotj is the 2d animated shorts on cartoon network directed by genndy tartakovsky of dexter's lab fame
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Lucas has assraped the franchise and will undoubtedly do so to the series. People will watch it anyway.
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March 11, 2009, 2:28 a.m. CST
redshirt: regarding Ashoka's fate (The Clone Wars series)
by Prof. Pop-Cult
How do we know what her fate is? The character never appeared in Episode III. For all we know, she quits being a Jedi by the end of The Clone Wars series; or she goes into hiding during the Jedi massacre. Heck, the character could show up in this live-action Star Wars series for a guess appearance.
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Don't parade the mangled corpse of Star Wars through the streets. Sure, people will come and see what the broo-ha-ha is about, but they will leave disgusted and sad.
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Loved that show, he he.. whose with me?
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Dane Cook?
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The main characters will be good-looking American actors working out their romantic relationships on Tatooine.
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Luke and Leia were 19. Han and Lando were a little older. Probably 30s.
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Shai for droid w00t woot!!!
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Nobody that loves the old trilogy gives a flying fuck about George Lucas is doing next with his cash cow which he triple-fucked with the horrible "new" trilogy and the atrocious Clone Wars movie. Fuck him, seriously. And damn him to hell for fucking us fans over and over and over again.
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What a stand-out!!! I'm not into the show, but I noticed her. She has great star quality...and her career should be proactively nurtured by this industry. Don't let her just become...just another unemployed actress from a failed series; there s great substance in that young lady...and the Lucas Star Wars universe could use a more brown complexion, don't you think???<BR><BR>BTW, I would also like to see Asian faces in Star Wars for more than just a passing blur, yes...I'd like to see some Asian leads in the cast.
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as will every fucker on this talkback. We're all Lucas's bitches who are paying for his grandchildren's grandchildren's college education.<p> This show needs a backwards narrative from after the Rebel's victory in episode 6.
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Rose Byrne. Oz actress. Her friends - Oz actors. Knowing. Oz director, Oz-made movie. Star Wars live action series. To be shot in Oz. What don't you guys fucking understand? Nope, there won't be an exodus from your fave shows. <p> And the tired talk of Firefly/Serenity actors just confirms these fans are even MORE uncreative than they accuse Lucas of being. Yes, let's get the guy who played the poor-man's Han to do the same again. Did none of you learn from Dash Rendar, the ORIGINAL (and Lucasfilm approved!) poor-man's Han?
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Didn't he once upon a time make pretty good non star wars movies? That I'de really like to see. and yeah I'll maybe watch this but I'm not super interested.
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not 3. Jedi fails by virtue of literally being the first movie but with discarded ideas rescued from the trash. I was a kid at the time, but I still remember the disillusionment... <p> Sorta like the Indy films - the first 3 are also 2&1/2 great movies.
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March 11, 2009, 4:51 a.m. CST
I'd love to say that I was excited, but once raped...
by alucardvsdracula
Please God not again. The beard has been doing his upmost to shit on all that once was good in the world of film geekdom. But I don't think I can take much more. After 3 great original Star Wars movies he gave birth to 3 demented suckathons. After 1 great and 2 pretty decent Indy movies he gave us 1 almighty feted turd. Please will somebody for the love of God blind this motherfucker, cut his hands off and fuse his mouth up with Vaders pink Special Edition lightsaber. Just a prayer.
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the entire Firefly cast. Then let Joss Whedon be showrunner, and get back ll the Firefly writers. Oh, and rename the show to Firefly Season 2. Nah, I'm kidding. I've been enjoying the Clone Wars, so I'm excited to see where they go with this live action series.
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Moon Bloodgood and Summer Glau for starters, with you on that detective from Life, also very cute. <p> But knowing Lucas it will be about cheap actors, so he can make as much money as possible. I love Star Wars, but Lucas falls into the Alan Moore camp of brillaint creators, but terrible human beings.
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Grace Park, even multiple copies of her in BSG aren't enough.
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The show could be 5 minutes of credits and 35 minutes of blank screen and we would still watch it. Some would call it artistic, maybe even poignant.
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I just rewatched YOUNG INDY. I loved it then, and I love it now, but the show was NOT meant for network TV. It was, at best, a teen-aimed HISTORY CHANNEL show (not that there's anything wrong with that, and never mind that the channel didn't exist in 1992). <p> Both the prequels and INDY 4 featured aspects of kid-pandering silliness which the movies really did not need. Unfortunately, Lucas doesn't do these things half-assed, so when he chooses to do something "out there," he goes all out with no apologies. I find that both admirable and disheartening, especially considering there are many adult fans of STAR WARS who have a vert specific vision of how this live action show should feel.
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Like 24 or more like Firefly.
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Did the prequels not shovel enough shit down your gobs? <p> Face it, Star Wars died after Empire... Now it's only good for parody.
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Hope the TV show has more ambiguous, more self interested type of characters. The PT missed a Han type character from the OT. Too black and white, we need our grey.
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We'll get that am sure.
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...some characters that use the force that are not Goodside/Darkside?<p> I suppose that cannot be however, because it was supposed to be Luke who found that balance.
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But in hindsight, I don't like the prequels. Not anymore. I mean, sure, I geeked off about them when they came out, and they still aren't as epic-ly(sp?) dull as LOTR or Matrix, but Jesus put a bullet in it's goddamn head. Haven't seen the new Clone Wars show, and honestly do not want to see the live-action one. ................................... .... Unfortunately I have a son who has just discovered Star Wars, so let's face it, I will be Lucas' bitch for many years to come.
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March 11, 2009, 6:48 a.m. CST
If "Star Wars" Rape Is Inevitable, Relax & Enjoy It
by SamuelLappDance
Oh, boo hoo. Why don't you guys just form a "rape" support group and get past your traumas together. Not possible? Ah well. Then go on lamenting about your lost childhoods and whining about how the people who put fantastic images in your mind you could never come up with on your own have disappointed you, using whatever multimedia forums are invented in the next 30 or 40 years or however long you have left on the planet. I particularly love the Gen Xers and Yers whose 4-, 5-, and 6-year-old kids are now getting into "Star Wars" and are, like, "Ugh! Now I have to have the saga back in my life." Of course, all the while missing the point that "Star Wars" was, is and always will be for wide-eyed children and their backyard adventures and not jaded, cynical, arms-folded, forever-let-down adults. That said, Jar Jar sucks.
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Tim : "You are so blind! You so do not understand! You weren't there at the beginning. You don't know how good it was! How important! This is it for you! This jumped-up firework display of a toy advert! People like you make me sick! What's wrong with you? Now, I don't care if you've saved up all your fifty 'p's, take your pocket money and get out! <p> (the little boy runs off, crying)<p> Tim : "What a prick." <p> Remember your hatred of Jar Jar. Let that hate flow through you. Then you can finally stop giving Lucas your hard earned dollar.
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March 11, 2009, 6:53 a.m. CST
Bring in the Zahn, the Thrawn and young, inexperienced padawans.
by Sithtastic
...if you're going to do it, do it right. Bring in Timothy Zahn to do the story and set up Grand Admiral Thrawn as the running bad guy. You can do all sorts of old-triology cameos through out. Give us a cast using some of the standard SW archetypes--the "greedy" smuggler, a coming of age padawan and jedi now in hiding, wookies, boothans, the whole nine. There's a lot you can do here and it doesn't HAVE TO BE hard. I stress "HAVE TO BE" because everytime I turn around, it seems someone wants to screw up the winning formula.
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...is fucking weird.
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He seemed very happy to be a part of that.
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The Enterprise could get stuck in a temporal anomaly and zoomed to a galaxay a long time ago, and far far away. Man would that be sweet. Like Jetsons/Flintstones. They gotta do it!!!
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The more I start to see Brian Peppers
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...setting up a render farm to create another cartoonish craptacular and further alienate the human race against Star Wars.
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Would a role for Nathan Fillion be too much to ask ?? Oh and the possibilty of seeing Summer Glau wielding a lightsaber is just too much for me...droooooooooool
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love the quote. <p>. But not doing well with this addiction. <p> Yeah Jar Jar, would like an honest answer from George on that one, but will of coure never get it. <p> "George did you include the character of Jar Jar to; a) sell toys, b)Play around with CG, c)have a character that appealed to 5 year olds, or d) all of the above?"
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I like Star Wars, I even liked the Episode 1, 2 and 3. and the Clone Wars in both it's forms have been fun to watch but this Live Action TV Series is just what I felt was missing from Ep 3. in the Extra features of Ep 3 are all the scenes setting up the rebel Alliance are presented thus it does not count. This series coulr redo these scenes as either from scratch or as a scene in the new show. But lets remember the opening of Ep 4. The Rebels have won there first victory.... That is the end of the series and I for one is getting excited about it. Yay!
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just forget it. Nothing about this is interesting in the slightest. <P>And those Zahn books were shit- ridiculous clones, furry monsters that stop the force- how. fucking. lame.
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How on earth can you even remotely like these horrible, campy, totally fucking boring, epicly failing, completely miserable fucked-up dumbed-down pieces of cinematic shit called Episodes I, II and III? HOW?
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March 11, 2009, 8:26 a.m. CST
It's not a prequel, nor a sequel, but an inbetweequel...
by MrMysteryGuest
Think about that!
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Just hope they cast Josh Holloway as John Carter in Princes of Mars.
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Why don't they make it like a hundred years AFTER "Return of the Jedi"? NO ONE CARES ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE "A NEW HOPE" ANYMORE.
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this could be good. Would I rather it be set in a different time period? You bet. I would love to see the Thrawn trilogy, or something so far in the future that we can get past the whole Skywalker storyline. But if this is what they are going to do, then fine. But make sure that Lucas is not writing and directing all of the episodes. I think Lucas should create a framework of the events to occur throughout the series, and leave it to new writers and directors to fill in the details. But, I have a feeling that this will be a pretty empty series. What you have going on is Vader killing the remaining Jedi, rebel alliance forming (how the fuck long were they around before they got their first victory anyway?), and really, not that much else. I still love Star Wars...somewhat liked Ep I, Ep II was ok, but I really enjoyed Ep III. The problem, as many have stated, was that you knew exactly where the story had to go, and how it ended. That leaves the audience without any real tension. EVERYONE knew Obi-Wan won the final duel. So no matter how great the fighting was, you knew Anakin got cut to shit in the end. Still liked it, but that is why Prequels can never match the originals. Oh, well.....hope for the best with this. And maybe one day after Lucas passes on (and I don't wish death or anything on the guy) his kids, or whomever gets control over Star Wars will have the foresight to let a new creative team (imagine a Nolan Star Wars!), come in and breath fresh life into this. I know alot of you are now haters, but you know deep down you want to love Star Wars again.
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Absolutely nothing.
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Honestly. I've just started watching episodes of Good Vs Evil ( G vs E) as i missed it the first time around( thank the lord for bittorrent, there's some vhs transfers as dvds weren't released, and its rarely repeated). these actors are fucking superb. honestly. superb.
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The hell with Lorenzo Lamas... but how about Kathleen Kinmont! She can be Mara Jade! "George Lucas was a great man... but that was another life." DUN, DUUUUN!
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#1: Kick Lucas out of the writing room.<P> #2: Set it in the Old Republic timeline, so no character constraints (and also an added bonus of tying in with the new Bioware MMO<P> #3: Cast Nathan Fillion.<P> #4: Cast Kristen Bell as an evil Jedi.<P> #5: Include some characters from Knights Of The Old Republic e.g: HK-47 or Darth Revan.<P>
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If you have not checked out the NEW Clone Wars cgi cartoon then you're really missing out.. so far its been both the animated series that have actually felt like star wars.. I'd say that's the litmus test.. if you don't like cgi Clone Wars then star wars has been tainted for you beyond repair.. just like Harry's review of the first cgi movie reveals his own taint..
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MrMysteryGuest I think you are on to something... horrible! So it's probably close to reality w/ Lucas.
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with an annoying, semi-racist accent!
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I've grown tired of scrolling through mindless fanboy wet dreams. All your ideas suck.
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fuck yea! I'd be good with recasting the originals for a post-Return of the Jedi series. Find some unknown as Luke & Leia, get Nathan Fillion as Han Solo, bring in Christina Hendricks as Mara Jade. Make a "no toys will be sold" policy on it and drop it on Showtime. FUCK YEA!
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Nothing matters or affects the main story because everyone knows the ending! This is especially bad when Lucas and co can't even write origin stories well. I say forget the main movie arcs and concentrate on other important fights or carry on from Episode IV. Why watch Star Wars "in between 3 & 4"? it's stupid. It's like turning on a tap and waiting for the water to hit your cup, and you are looking at the middle space between tap and cup!= Boring!
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...From the Prequels! PLEEEEEEASE TELL ME that Darth Gizzard has some other writers and directors to do this, while he ONLY interjects with a rough storyline that he leaves the professionals to deal with. PLEEEEEEASE TELL ME THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING DOWN!!!
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Fine that you didn't like Eps 1-3. But 'epicly failing'? Ep 1 made a ton of money, and Ep 3 got a pretty good critical response. And 'dumbed down'? How many other kids' films have even attempted to tell the story of a republic becoming a totalitarian state, and of a good guy turning evil? I hate Jar-Jar too, and I hate squeaky young Anakin, I hate all the bad acting, and I pretty much hate all of Episode 1... but I loved Palpatine and his plan, I loved the incredible action sequences, I love the ambition, and I thought the third film was utterly wonderful - even with the obvious flaws. (By the way, how come we are all meant to hate the way Vader goes 'noooo!' but we all feel fine about Doc Ock doing it in Spider-Man 2?)
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That is the only possible way this could suck MORE.
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He's taken something that was awesome in the beginning and destroyed it over two decades of ruination... All those childhoods in the basement of his ego! THAT FAT-NECKED BAAAASTAAAARD!!!
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Well, if I did, this is the perfect place to do so.<P> Josh Holloway as a Corellian smuggler with a suspiciously Southern accent. Though if John Carpenter comes to his senses and remakes ESCAPE FROM NEW YORK with Holloway as Snake Plissken, fuck this series.<P> In fact... fuck this series - make THE SAGA OF SNAKE PLISSKEN, starring Josh Holloway! HELL YEAH!!!
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couldn't believe it when i watched this and lucas had given it the cgi treatment...smh the guys a twat. i had the chance to tell him when i pulled up next to him at some lights but i pussied out
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He is, after all, the worlds most beloved fictional character. I think he should be cast as the organizer of the Rebel Alliance; his charisma, his charm, his wit and intelligence (in addition to his fart jokes and crypto-racist dialect) would clearly be able to win over a galaxy full of disgruntled sentients eager to rebel against authoritarian rule. Just like he ruled all of our hearts, I think Jar Jar would be just the character to bring this all too important series to life.
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Its set 150 years or so after ROTJ and its actually pretty fucking awesome. The Empire is back, but is more centrist, the Sith have an entire army, and the Jedi are scattered throughout the galaxy. The lead is Cade Skywalker, a drug addict who walks the line between dark and light. Its very fucking cool, is morally ambiguous, and expands on the universe in ways Lucas appears to frightened to capitalize on. I'm hoping Lucas does die soon so someone cooler and smarter than him can take the franchise over and let it off the chain; let it run wild with all the coolness it could have...
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Sorry, wrong Talkback.
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Because Captain Mal Reynolds is the only character in SF who has come CLOSE to having the charisma that Harrison had in the OT. Mal Reynolds IS Han Solo in the Old West. How can people NOT fucking see that?<P> Nathan Fillion. Josh Holloway. Friendly-but-untrustworthy Corellian smuggling rivals trying to ply a trade on the lesser-used old shipping routes in and around Kessel. Mainly trying to avoid any Imperial entanglements. Oh, and Summer Glau as a Jedi-in-hiding.<P> Wow. That is one sexy premise for a show, right there...
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Lots of studio laughter, Jar Jar bumbling about trying to do the right thing, but always getting things wrong resulting in the rebels getting slaughtered at the end of each episode. Catchphrase Jar Jar looking at the camera, shrugging sholders "Meesa sorry!"
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I saw that a few years ago. Someone had actually made up a timeline for Starwars going back a million years. Now THAT'S Geeky.
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I'd love to see that on screen. Particularly those bad-ass Sith lords. Great stuff, with all the shades of grey we'd need in an adult SW show.<P> Jar Jar? POODOO!!!
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People wishing the "Beard" would die because they didn't like his recent work.<p>
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It's that annoying "being critical" thing, I think. Plus we don't just pony up and buy all his shit for the sake of it, like the kids do.<P> Actually, scratch that last part...
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at least the cinematography would be better! Haw! <p> And I replied to you over in the Knowing tb. Later.
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I think that's due to the whole "whilst Lucas lives, STAR WARS is in his hands" assumption. Assuming, however, that Lucas hasn't written a scorched Coruscant clause into his will saying NO-ONE CAN EVER HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SW UNIVERSE AFTER HIS DEATH (and that Sith dude fucking would, too), his death would open SW up to being great again - at least for us adults as well as for the kids.<P> What I don't get - WHY is Lucas so scared of an adult spin-off of SW? Kids will eventually watch it anyway, and we're ALL sad enough to go buy all the tie-in merchandise if the adult show were to actually NOT suck, so - WHY is he so scared of a pocket of the SW universe being more adult?<P> Refer to my LUCAS HATES ADULTS post previously...
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She looks anorexic on Damages.
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White Vader<P> Red Yoda<P> Lt Andy MacDowell<P> Blue Lando<P> AUNT BERU'S CELERY CUNT DIP WITH CELERY STICKS<p> NIGELLA'S DOWNHOME COUNTRY PEACH PIE<p> CHRISTIAN FUCKING BAAAAAAAALE!!!<p> Yep. Lord Darth Bale. What don't they FUCKING UNDERSTAND?!?!?
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March 11, 2009, 9:45 a.m. CST
help- lucas is stuck btween revenge of the sith + a new hope
by alice 13
+ he cant get up.
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He certainly doesn't need more money, but he loves making it. In his eyes a more adult Star Wars would mean less marketing, merchandising , hence less money
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It sucks that your favorite shows were cancelled too soon, but for fuck's sake PLEASE stop begging for Nathan Fillion, Summer Glau, or Kristin Bell!
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People want to see actors they like, acting, ... wow what a radical idea
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Seriously though, George---Deadwood in space, or I take a shit on my Star Wars poster.
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Methinks Joe thinks that when an actor has finished playing a character they were actually acclaimed for playing, they should then shut the fuck up and go home, to an old Actors' Rest Home or something.<P> Joe... what DO you mean? We know these shows are over - does it mean these actors should NEVER do SF on TV again?<P> The only SF TV actress I'd happily never watch again given the choice is Katee "grr aren't I fucking hard" Sackhoff, the least convincing badass on TV. Jesus, even the fucking wuss who plays Baltar comes across as tougher than Sackhoff. And her role in BIONIC WOMAN... just URGH.
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I'd rather see Chad Vader get a series.
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Everybody knows the quality of television shows rivals the movie experience, and exceeds it because you can spend more time on character development, instead of the basic three acts of film. So while I don't want an "adult" HBO style Star Wars series, I do expect a darkness to be portrayed, and some funny writing that will require a Han Solo-like character. NOW>>>> my dream for this show, if it indeed starts after ROTS, is to limit the appearances of Vader. No need to worry about the actor because you can always hire James Earl Jones for voice work. Then, hire the guy from Smallville as your main antagonist, and apprentice to Vader. Hire Jimmy Smits to show some of the young family life of our favourite Force-twins, and introduce new older protagonists to "watch over them". Finally, I would love for Lucas to blow us away with the first season ending with a climactic battle which sees Galen Marek (Starkiller) and our main protagonists ending up in a time jumping plot device which takes us into the future, beyond ROTJ! Fans go apeshit and season two can be filled with cameos from Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, and even fuckin Harrison Ford. Galen Marek finds a future he did not foresee with both the Emperor and Vader gone, and the show develops from there! While there are tons of negative opinions about this show on this board, I gotta hope that Lucas can blow us away with some incredible shit that only a TV show would permit. I don't mind new characters, but I beg to use as many original actors as possible...even if it's only guest spots. If Ewen isn't paid a shitload to do an arc in the first season as Ben Kenobi, I'll really question this shit. It's so easy to do, and money should be no object.
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that is all<p> ps: even if he lost the weight, he'd still be fat
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Muhamaad Jihad
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I will NOT watch this crap. I am DONE WITH STAR WARS. Christ, I've even sold my old original trilogy posters and stuff. Star Wars is crap. GL has screwed this pooch so hard it will never come back.
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'Life on Mars', yes. 'A Simple Life', yes. Not 'Life'. I love that show. I certainly hope it gets a third season.
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March 11, 2009, 10:29 a.m. CST
If you can't get some enjoyment out of Clone Wars
by Thunderbolt Ross
Your Star Wars heart is made of stone.
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Summer Glau should be cast here. Give her a role with actual acting and physical demands.
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Or set up episodes 7, 8 & 9. I like the idea of the live action TV series. Didn't they say it was gonna be like Sopranos, set around a crime family, bounty hunters and all that (probably Boba Fett as a main character)? They should get Jimmy Smitts to play Bail Organa and set much of the series on Alderaan. Some kid playing 10-year-old Leia. They can do Alderaan because it's very Earth-like (structures aside, but just do like what they did with Caprica).
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(Son):Yo Pops Jabba and me gonna run down and pick up some speeder parts...</p><p>(Watto)Ahhh...Yooz Big Dummy...yoooz likes hangin round dos Hutts yess...welll....Bringz me back some White Vader Ripple...ahhh yessssss
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Join the crew of the "Love Star" as they make another run to Kessel for romance and adventure!</p><p> This week...Pamela Anderson guest Stars as the Twi'lek "Snarf" who has a romantic encounter with the "Love Stars" head bartender JarJar, an interrogation droid and a tribe of Ewoks
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It's HBO. That is the best place for this series, for sure.
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They should reboot the original franchise and star Christian Bale as Luke Skywalker and Megan Fox as Princess Lea and have Christopher Nolan direct it.
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The prequels were like waking up with your uncle's dick in your mouth or something like that.
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..would die just to fulfill your geekery is right then is it? I hope he lives for the next hundred years making spinoffs based around Jabba the Hut's sister set ten years before "A New Hope", just to piss you off.<p> Seriously, when is someone going to do the right thing and release The Holiday Special on DVD? Remastered? Surely someone could do that seeing as George has washed his hands of it?
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I meant "epicly failing" on an artistic level.<p>"Ep 1 made a ton of money". So what? Box office success was never a measure for quality.<p>"dumbed down? How many other kids' films have even attempted to tell the story of a republic becoming a totalitarian state, and of a good guy turning evil?". That's exactly the point: it's first and foremost a kids movie (for dumb, fat, chest-bumping kids). The premise of the story may not sound dumb to you, but it sure as hell was presented totally fucking dumb.<p>You "loved the incredible action sequences" ??? I didn't see any. Not a single one. Nothing that comes even remotely near the action set pieces of the OT.<p>You "love the ambition"? Of whom? The special effects crew? (Even they failed).<p>"the third film was utterly wonderful". Err...yes, wonderfully retarded, dull and totally fucking lame. At least it wasn't such a cinematic insult as Episode II.<p>Bottom line: There is not one single thing that (for me) is positive in the new trilogy. The acting is horrible, the characters uninteresting, the action underwhelming, the dialogues atrocious, there's absolutely zero suspense or thrill or anything that may keep you awake. Epic fail. As I said.
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OK, you've convinced me Spud & Miyamoto....let's have Nathan Fillion be Harrison Ford-lite, Kristen Bell as some Jedi detective, Summer Glau as herself, plus the entire casts of Arrested Development, Battlestar Galactica, and Twin Peaks.
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March 11, 2009, 11:31 a.m. CST
George should spend his time reworking the Prequels.
by Bob Cryptonight
The ORIGINAL trilogy didn't really need it, but the PREQUELS a screaming for "special editions" that fix everything!
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Action, George! Cool action!
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If Fox is going to be stupid and cancel Sarah Connor, and they will because they are the worst network in history. Then I could definitely do with seeing Summer Glau cast as a surviving Jedi Knight.
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Why bother?
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Fuck Babylon Five gave a nod to Penn and Teller.
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Pretty obvious it was straight from Karl Marx with the Lycans representing the enslaved working class driven to rebel against the cruel Capitalist doyens. I'm surprised no one else caught that.
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can't wait.
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I may have to actually watch that movie now.
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See what happens when Stormtroopers stop being polite, and start being real!<p> (Special appearance by TK421 from last season's Real World)
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is in this live action show. He's a pretty cool character. A Jedi who's severed his connection to the force and now a General in the fledgling rebellion, and also one of the founding members. If there are Jedi,there should be very few or they have little to no training, otherwise it would diminish Luke's role in the OT.
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very very angry
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March 11, 2009, 12:37 p.m. CST
Bob Cryptonight: You Are Right About The Prequels!!!
by Media Messiah
But to do it, George must re-edit them...and to tell you the truth, they all need to be cut down into one, two hour movie. The Anakin as a boy sequences should be cut down to only 5 minutes of any such film version.
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what? but there's so much to explore between eps 2 and 3! think about all those senators, all the exciting conversations they could be having!
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Put a little goatee on him, he'd be hilarious.
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But a series based on STAR WARS: LEGACY would ROCK.
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I hear he's available.
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and Bantha farming.
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Its fucking awesome, I even enjoyed the movie despite what Harry said.
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If Lucas lets another writer and director handle it.
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And massive Womp Rats slaughter.
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Matthew Settle/Spears could be a bad ass Jedi or pissed off farmer.
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GL knows this but he thinks we will at it up either way and hes right. but no jedi thats a big hole.i hate sith i want jedi. and bounty hunters and smugglers are only cool when there is JEDI!!!!!
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The original trilogy will always be kept close to my heart, but those fucking sequels...man Lucas burnt his bridges big time...and that fucking creepy CGI cartoon network abomination...shudder. Time for people to get off the Lucas train once and for all.
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like what kikuchiyoboy said get Britany Spears and she will be a jabbas slave or princess or some chick
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would be cool? right?
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have its moments. Just lay back and let it happen.
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March 11, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST
Which series has sucked more after first two files? Aliens or S
by Domi'sInnerChild
I really see the battered wife analogy with these two series. You've invested all this time in both, you know they've grown terrible, but you keep hoping they'll regain the magic of when you first meet. Then you get Alien/Human/Predator hybrids and fart jokes.
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March 11, 2009, 1:41 p.m. CST
The only reason they're doing this "inbweteequel" thing...
by Ray Gamma
The only reason they're doing this "inbweteequel" thing is because they now realize WHAT A GIGANTIC WASTED OPPORTUNITY THE PREQUELS WERE. They completely concentrated on a story nobody gave a fuck about, i.e. Anateen Skywalker and his teen girlfriend in Naboo 90210. </P> <P> When the announcement was first made, back in the mid-late 90's, that George Lucas was going to go back and make some Star Wars "prequels", a million fans around the world rejoiced, but not one of them imagined a scene where a teenaged Anakin Skywalker cavorts in a field of flowers with his girlfriend. And not one of them imagined that fucking godawful fireplace scene in Episode II. That scene alone is like fingernails down a blackboard. </P> <P> Can you imagine all the possible storylines they could have gone with? And as for the casting.... In a parallel world the casting could have gone any of a million better ways. And the movies could have been so much darker. </P> <P> When someone gets round to re-making/re-booting the Star Wars saga, it will be wholly justified because of the prequels.
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Which is exactly why those actors are available now. Cast 'em, George!
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If White Vader is prominently featured
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The dialog will suck, the comedy will be junior high level, emotions will be either non existant or way over the top. It will be Fx driven, pretty to look at for a few episodes, but ultimately boring as hell. I'd like to be wrong, but for that Lucas would need to cede all creative involvement.
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The entire creative team behng BSG and just sit back and collect the cash, which is his only real concern. This way its a win win, we get a great SW series and neck fat collects money.
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...there had only been Star Wars. Remember that? Just Star Wars...about a kid who's father had been in the Clone Wars who was killed by a dark Jedi called Darth Vader...a kid who through all odds manages to go from farm boy to Rebel Hero.<P> Those were the days.
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This could be the actual prequel we've been waiting for. First of all, Lucas won't be directing all of them, so we stand a chance. <br> <br> Dammit. Now I care again. Damn. Ray Gamma inadvertently sold me on it. <br> <br> Dioxholster, I didn't mean Britney Spears, but I guess she could play a Bantha farmer. Or like you said, one of Jabba's singing slaves. That's actually genius. Heh. <br> <br> Any Pixar layoffs that they can nab?
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BORING.
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Jar Jar dies a gruesome death before the opening credits. Then I'll at least know George is thinking about me.
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Starring Porker and Biggs as an odd couple who flies around investigating ghost sightings and paranormal (non Force related) phenomena.<p> Biggs will be no-nonsense and by the book.<p> Porker will a wisecracker who is never 10 minutes away from his next Pyollian cake and Corellian Ale.<p> Every few episodes Biggs will have to save Porker from turning his X-wing into a fiery wreckage on some random moon-sized space station. <p> With Mon Mothma as the beleaguered supervisor responsible for keeping the pair on task.
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Grand Moff Tarkin with whiskers, black top hat and a large black cape?
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March 11, 2009, 2:43 p.m. CST
The Perpetually Underrated Gary Kurtz Needs to be in This
by DarfurOnTheRocks
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It writes itself!
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March 11, 2009, 2:44 p.m. CST
George Lucas's Ex-Wife Who Really Did All the Work Needs to be
by DarfurOnTheRocks
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March 11, 2009, 2:45 p.m. CST
Perpetually Underrated Dr.Katz Needs to be in this
by Unfilmable_Blue_Dong
Squigglevision FTW!
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I believe it was Porkins, but that shit was funny anyway.
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Great name!
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The only sequels I would ever want to see would be a live action production of the Timothy Zahn books. Those were all great and felt very true to the star wars canon unlike any of the prequels. I think this series could be good, if it focuses on the start of the rebel alliance I hope they include the Force Unleashed guy, but cut out that retarded fight with the emperor. I mean the part that killed me with that whole part was that he could have easily killed both Vader and the Emperor, but showed mercy on them; so what they could kill billions upon billions of more people. The story overall was good up until there. They should have just had vader kill him, would have made tons more sense.
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(BLAM!)<p> thud.
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March 11, 2009, 3:11 p.m. CST
I'm guessing this series will be all self contained stories.
by ALANMOORES_SQUIDBLOOD
With each episode focusing on one characters story each week. Sort of like the Star Wars Tales comic from Dark Horse. Mark my words, this is how it will be.
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Lucas already fucked the franchise (I personally pretend the prequels do not exist), Indy has now been dragged into the mire, I don't want to see Luke and company in some shitfest CGI mess that is totally unecessary. Leave Han Solo alone.
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I, too, have been quite jilted by Lucas since ROTJ. I, like others here, WANT to love Star Wars again but have many reservations. I think George Lucas should only come aboard as Executive Consultant. Leave the writing to the seasoned vets who KNOW how to enrich the SW universe. Make it gritty ... make it hard-nosed.
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Lucas hasn't been worth a damn since the Wife dumped him back in the early 80's. Worse, he blames his creation, and the fans for her leaving him. When she left he took the kids and became a recluse up in Marin, surrounded only by those who kissed his as and walked on eggshells. He despises Star Wars..he despises the movie business...he despises the fans...only his ego and psychological fixation to prove to Marcia how sorry she should be for leaving him keeps him at this game. As long as he harbors these feelings, and this loathing...everything he touches will turn into shit..the proof is right there on the screen and has been since late 81 when the marriage began falling apart.
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Telling what happened to Slave Leia between her capture and freeing at the vile hands of gangster Jabba the Hutt. Includes lots of orifices being violated by 30 different alien species blowing their various forms of jizz into her.
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I agree completely. On the Indy feature on the DVD set he as much as admits that his divorce greatly affected the quality of stuff he started to do. I think after Indy 3 he just hid up at Skywalker Ranch doing his little projects here and there and completely lost his edge.
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The best talkback of the week. <br> <br> I cursed out an old friend who asked me about 501st appearances because I used to be in the SCG. Now, fuck that man. I'm embarrassed by Lucas.
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This is going to be such a tame show is my prediction. Go away Lucas just let SW be, sigh.
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Was the first naked grab for merchandising. It was also the first time Lucas showed a near total lack of originality. So many puppets, and shoving Han Solo to the side like a bit player. After this, his 3 "sequels" are brimming over with incredibly bad actors delivering lines like a low budget soap opera. Even the credible actors come across as 2-d cutouts. Maybe George needs to hand his ideas over to a competent director. I believe that Lucas's greatness shall forever echo in eternity from the early 80's and TESB. Lucas creativity R.I.P.
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Right? So what's the excuse for that one?
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after EMPIRE not JEDI. idiot
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Marcia left right after Empire...ROTJ was the beginning of Lucas crawl into a fetal position. It is when he shed his "Adult" sensibilities and logic and gave us an endless strream of Ewoks, JarJar and Yippee....
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dickblood copycat
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cant say it enough
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I'm so ashamed I don't know when George Lucas got divorced. What was I thinking? I need to get my head checked.<p>Turd.
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little annie crying on a sand dune.. jar jar: "Issa OK annie! None of dis issa real! Disa was never meant to be bombad serious dramas.. looks at ME! Whoopeeee!!" Yup.. Jar Jar was the only charecter who embraced the madness that was the prequels.. put him in his place and you will see he is THE GREATEST prequal character.. next to Watto of course..
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Your mom got fucked by me
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The internet says Lucas's divorce was 1983. ROTJ came out in May 1983. Maybe Dr. Phil Dioxholster knows exactly when the relationship went sour, but it seems like Marcia "Midas" Lucas was around for at least some of the making ROTJ.
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The Crimean War as the War.
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Read this hilarity...</p><p>"He is best known for being the creator of the epic Sci-Fi franchise Star Wars and the archaeologist-adventurer character Indiana Jones, and also for his unusually large and bizarre looking neck."</p><p> And here I thought WE were mean spirted. damn..
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She split after Empire...divorce was finalized in 83. Marcia was a tops in her field, Oscar winning in fact......Business is business..Lucas kept her on the job for the sake of the product. However, the majority of ROTJ was written during the separation...the damage was done..his balls were cut. Ewoks were the first step...culminating in Jake Loyd, JarJar, slapstick C3PO, and a princess who dies of a broken heart.
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on IMDB I think Jedi is her last editing job listed - what happened to her? She was an academy award winning editor so that's kind of strange.
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It's over, it's done, and it has been ruined. Fuck this and that horrible CG cartoon they made. Anyways, the plot for this series should of been the 3rd movie and Revenge of the Sith should of been the 2nd. Fucj this.!
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But if it's as bad as Young Indiana Jones (booooriiiing) or the animated Clone Wars movie, that's as far as my support will go. My bet is Lucas will find some way to screw things up.
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Because the moniute people started to really dig Tartakovsky's CLONE WARS series, Darth Gizzard nixed it and made his own series. Which fucking SUCKS in comparison. <P> You just KNOW that of all the cool things that COULD have come from this series, Darth Gizzard will end up writing AND directing some of it, and that it will EPICALLY FUCKING FAIL. Because Lucas' ego is far larger than his brain.<P> That ego is larger than his gizzard. That's no gizzard, it's a space station...
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W....T....F....Where in hell did someone dig that video up from. Holy Crap, that clarifies everything for me. George Lucas began sucking a long time ago.
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And so, I also epically fail. The Force is pretty fucking weak with this one.
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Folks, the game showed how the Rebel Alliance was founded. The TV show is going to be about the early days of the Alliance. Considering Starkiller dies at the end of that game (Oops, did I spoil something?), having him in the show would be kind of difficult.
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wrong. the story is very well written, and the actors did what they could with the cheese that was fed to them. the problem was bad character directing, nothing more. had lucas stuck to directing the action sequences, (awesome) and given the writing and directing of dialogue (not so awesome) to another man (coppala comes to mind) then all of your ranting would be for not. the problem with the PT was the delivery of the lines... which if you look at the work of nearly every cast member of the PT, all of them have much better performances outside of the PT.
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I disagree. The character dialogue was incredibly bad written and therefore the roles were impossible to act.
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Oh the ironry
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as a teenager or whatever, learning the ropes, going into the senate with Bail (Smits?) that would be cool. I'm sure Jar Jar will show up at some point too..I LOVE the clone wars series, so hopefully this will match up. ps- howard the duck is on dvd this week...
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Abrams is smart. He knows the Trek Universe was dead and needed new blood. So he's reinventing it in a bullshit scientifically acceptable way that can appeal to the pseudo-science that Trekkies will accept. <p> Presto! New Trek Universe. New reality. Kirk gets to bang Uhura, which is what everyone wanted anyway. <p> Lucas? He's masturbating. Abrams is laying the foundation for a new franchise. Lucas? In his dotage...
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March 11, 2009, 6:02 p.m. CST
Ian McDiarmid didn't have any trouble with Lucas dialog
by lockesbrokenleg
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You are SPOT ON.
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...but yeah, fair enough, his line deliveries in Episode 3 was some of the only decent acting in the entire prequel trilogy. I'd still argue though that for the most part the dialogue was abysmal.
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Half of it is repeated lines from the other two. Leia says, "Let's get out of here." ten times in the movie.
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the prequels? Apart from Binks? I liked Revenge. The precious 2 were ok. I think part of the hate comes from immensely high expectations. A bit like Watchmen the movie. Okay, ROTJ was underwhelming.
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he can work around shit dialog and poor direction. And people are right about the script for ROTJ...rehash and reuse; by that point it is painfully obvious Lucas just doesn't give a fuck what happens to the movie or his legacy...you can just feel he wants to get it over as quickly as possible and crawl under a rock. The guy who brought you American Graffiti and Star Wars was long gone...and hasn't really been seen since.
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It is odd that someone at the top of their game would simply vanish from Hollywood. Who knows...maybe she remarried and called it a career.</p><p> Then again...Lucas is well known for carrying a grudge to extremes. Remember...this is a guy whose vanity is such he banned AICN from the Ranch over a few leaks and bad reviews...was Moriarty wasn't it? Anyone remember? So it is entirely possible he had her blacklisted...being a billionaire producer/corporate entity in Hollywood, especially one with very powerful industry friends, carries alot of weight.
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it comes from the fact that what COULD have been is right there on the screen in Empire. A near perfect film, fun, serious, well written, good direction...that film had it all; and Lucas shit canned everything it was and shat out Ewoks, Screeching little kids who could not act, continutity and myth destroying Midichlorians, CGI Step-and-Fetch it characters and fart jokes. THATS why so many people are disappointed.
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Great performances and a complete story. What more can you ask for?
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I agree with you on BSG and I agree with you now! The first Starwars was a wonderful film, and back then there were no sequels. It was the story of a kid who wanted to see the stars and became a hero. I remember watching it on TV as an 8 year old and thought it was one of the best films I had ever seen. The following films devalued that feeling, and I wonder now if Lucas had just got lucky with ESB.
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Are the best SW films. But, ANH will always be my favorite because it was so different from any other movie or TV series at the time.
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His scene at the Opera was subtle brilliance personified. Easily the best scene out of the three movies. Sad, really, considering the prequels should been at least 50% that shit to make Anakin's turn even remotely convincing.
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March 11, 2009, 7:57 p.m. CST
If Anakin and Padme weren't acted by shitty teenagers
by lockesbrokenleg
the prequels would have been a lot better.
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Without Jar Jar, its all meaningless. THE ENTIRE FUCKING SAGA RESTS ON HIS SHOULDERS!!! I hope that Lucas digitally reinserts him into every scene of all six movies just to liven it up. Like all of that "I'm your father" stuff could really use some light child oriented comedy. Like, maybe Jar Jar could come in, and they could dance to some king of space pop. Then instead of jumping down the Space Chute, Luke and the gang could go have a tea party and have a play date. YAY!
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This series has bomb written all over it. That's a damn shame, I was really looking forward to this.
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But they'll be wandering, ronin Jedi in hiding. At least, if LUCAS HAD A FUCKING BRAIN, thats what he'd do; turn it into a space samurai western -- wandering Jedi drifting from world to world, living in the shadows; space pirates, bounty hunters and other scum making their way across the universe... some going to the alliance, some to the empire. Could be really cool, especially if it was aimed at an older crowd...
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Some of the best stories were in the Marvel comics adaptations between the series that kept the old school Starwars mythology. I'm hoping that we see that again.
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That's a cool concept. But it won't happen. Man, I am praying for a good BSG style series that sets up a new trilogy, with a new theory on the whole Black vs White Force idea (which has been suggested before)
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That is what this will turn out to be. Another pimple on the ass of the greatest trilogy in sci-fi cinema history. I personally hate prequels and an entire series being one is enough to make me run. But who knows? Lucas and Co. are banking on the "I'll buy\watch anything Star Wars" crowd to make them more moolah so.... it'll last 10 seasons!!!
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March 11, 2009, 8:23 p.m. CST
episode 3 is fuckin awesome but please tell me...
by supercowbell4therequestformorecowbell
after leia gives birth, was that a fucking CGI BABY?
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even if it's just small scenes here and there...and also Lucas should get Smits back and build up Bail so we care more when he gets blown to shit in part 4
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That's the way I imagined it when the show was first announced a couple of years ago. <P> I hope you are right.
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the scene where Qui Gon runs (literally) into Jar Jar. nuff said
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because the whole thing is animated, not just him. he actually fits perfectly into the clone wars series and I don't mind him at all.
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According to the apocryphal Star Wars timeline, at the ten year mark Han Solo still hasn't graduated from the Imperial Academy, the galaxy is only beginning to notice that the Empire isn't all it's cracked up to be, the Senate still exists, and Sienar Fleet Systems is JUST about to buy Kuat's starfighter business - including the Jedi Starfighter designs. It's pretty much a perfect moment in Star Wars history to begin a "rise of the rebellion" series.
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...that Lucas doesn't completely ignore all the plot points that have been established by The Expanded Universe. Please please please, make Admiral Thrawn a character, include the Z-95 Headhunter, give us a look at The Corporate Sector, show us a Dreadnaught or two, make Joruus C'Boath a character, and other stuff like that. And no gay Hutts.
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or better yet, maybe a dad Solo? H. Ford cameos? It'll never happen.
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nope... I see your point, but I gotta disagree with you. A friend showed me a PVRd Clone Wars episode that had Jar Jar... that character still does not work whether animated for live action or a cartoon. <P> I actually think the CG film version of the character still is an impressive technical achievement (being ten years out makes it more impressive). The problem with Binks is that his character had nothing to add to the narrative. He seldom helps the protagonists and most often gets in the way. Indeed, he is relegated to prat falls, goofy slapstick and stepping in poop. <P> Chewbacca was an alien sidekick and with the exception of getting the heroes stuck in an Ewok hunting trap, he was remarkably useful. He was the muscle behind Han Solo's mouth among other things and he is much loved for it. <P> And before people get on my ass about CGI... CGI is fine... BSG has GREAT CG effects. It's what you do with the technology.
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It's not really negativity. It's people trying desperately to point out all the things that George Lucas will do to ruin this TV show, to point out that we all KNOW he will do these things and to point out how easy it would be to avoid doing any of these things with a moment's thought. We all know how this show will turn out - it'll resemble LEGEND OF THE SEEKER in terms of production values (read: none) and it will focus on a group of "teens" in space played by 30-year-olds with names like Mon-Var Drax and Bolus Naught. It will feature a "cool" new robot who is strong but gentle-hearted who protects a young girl. Crap like that. Ridiculous, horrible crap. And we all know it. And we are venting because we all deeply wish we could talk to Lucas to affect the change necessary to prevent this from happening to something we cherish when, if they'd only talk to us, there would be none of this. That is all.
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Great Ideas all...adult, room for real character development, true not only to what came before but also to the Universe that sprang out of Lucas original, Pre-ROTJ/divorce vision. Action for the kids and kids at heart...story and depth for the adults.</p><p> Which is why it will never happen. Lucas just does not have that in him anymore. This is the Lucas where Han doesn't shoot first, the computerized actors don't ruin your day asking for direction, and to whom fart jokes are the tops in comedy.
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We also know this is a product, and no matter WHAT is said, nor how many pictures are shown of Lucas pointing at something we can't see in a photograph while an actor looks at him, that Lucas will only have a supervisory role consisting of ignoring the demos he gets sent and saying "Yeah, that's great," and walking away.
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Yet, that's been the highest rated series on CN. So eat it.
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You just reminded me... as a kid I remember thinking that Dreadnoughts would show up in the prequel films, but they never did. <P> Those West End Games source books that Zahn used as research for his Heir to the Empire series were really well put together. I have often wondered why Lucas did not continue to use them as an information base when he started to make new SW in the mid late 90s.
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That was from the Zahn books, and it's been used everywhere else.
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March 11, 2009, 9:38 p.m. CST
codymr..Exactly..Chewbacca wasn't a character for "kids"
by conspiracy
He was a bad ass...a pissed off character who owed Han a life debt. In fact Chewie, Han, Obi-Wan...All Bad asses that could, and did knock a guy off in the blink of an eye...they shot first, they killed, they cheated, they did not fuck around...dangerous characters in a dangerous universe.
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Chewbacca wasn't THAT dangerous. He runs away from Troopers and won't even go into the garbage chute.
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...The writing and directing to somebody else. Of course there will be Jedi if he's any smart. I mean I always found it kinda unrealistic(insert sarcastic irony that I'm talking about a sci-fi fantasy film)that ALL the Jedi were wiped out by a bunch of stupid meat puppets in Ep III. Some would survive and Vader and the Emperor would spend at least a good 5 years hunting them all down and picking them off 1 by 1. No one is going to tune into a Star Wars TV show with no lightsabres to be seen anywhere. Hopefully they can redeem the franchise by putting it in the hands of the right creative people who love and understand the property. I don't need to see Teenage Han Solo, Lando or Kiddie Luke and Leia though. Just break out Vader, The Emperor, Yoda, Bobba Fett and a recast Obi-Wan for the sweeps episodes if this thing makes it past one season and it will do fine.
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I also want Kevin Smith. It's going to take alot to get me excited about this.
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And be the VERY last of Star Wars. Mark my words.
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Come on, fess up, you're writing for the show aren't you?<p> If not you should be. Bolus Naught! Fucking gold. Thanks for the best laugh all day!
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There better be lots of aliens in this series, not CG aliens, REAL aliens (the ones with guys in suits). Lots of blaster fire! Lots of space battles! NO LIGHTSABERS! There's no Jedi.<p><p>WHAT AN AWESOME TIME TO LIVE IN THE BRIGHT CENTER OF THE GALAXY! Or will it be set on a planet that is farthest from?
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as a horny Ewok.
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AS Vader's mutilated dick!
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as Boba Fart-man
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As Jabba's sister Flabba.........
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A fucking lightsaber!!!
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He was very good in all prequels and clearly the stand out actor for me. <p>
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I hope they look at some of the actors from the Underbelly series (for the non -Aussie, do a google search on Underbelly tv show). <p> Has some great acting, and for the guys, lots of topless women.
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His delivery as Emperor in Jedi, for me, lets ROTJ get a pass. It's not a fantastic flick, but hey, better than ANY of the prequels. Oh wait....Lucas didn't direct it huh? Nope.
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March 12, 2009, 12:51 a.m. CST
I never need to see anything Star Wars-related ever again.
by BiggusDickus
Really. I am sick to fucking death of the whole thing. I can pretty much quote the original from beginning to end whether I want to or not and I'm angry at the space in my head still being taken up by The Phantom Menace.<p>Fuck off, George, you one-trick pony. Go hawk your tired idea in some other galaxy. Preferably far, far away.
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Everything that has come from Lucas in the last 10 years has TOTALLY SUCKED!!! He peaked at Episode V 30 years ago and went straight downward ever since!
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There was a series of books called Star Wars "Wraith Squadron". Post Ep 6, they are pretty darn good books, and would make a heck of a plotline for a live action series.
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What's this in reference to? Have I missed something? Are the female cast about to be killed off? Does Lucas plan to cast a male-less cast? What gives?
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The bad: EWOKS<P> The good: Speeder bikes, Jabba's Palace, the fucking RANCOR!, Boushh (Yatte. Yatte. Yuutu.), the Sarlacc Pit battle (WITHOUT the fucking ridiculous SE beak and shit), the end of Yoda, the fucking SPECTACULAR space battle ("It's a TRAP!"), the way Lucas cross-cuts between the battle on Endor, the space battle by Death Star II and the final battle between Luke and Vader. Vader dying in Luke's arms. SEBASTIAN FUCKING SHAW!!!<P> I think you'll agree, the good far outweighs the bad. And give me Ewoks over Midichlorians, Geonosians, fucking Japanese Neimoidians, and THAT GUNGAN BASTARD any day of the week.<P> And why is ROTS so well regarded anyway? Ian McDiarmid is a fucking legend, but when you have to say names like "Darth Plagueis" with a straight face (who next, Darth Badass? Darth Sneakyis? Darth Motherfucker? Darth Chokeabitch? For FUCK'S SAKE, LUCAS, YOU'RE NOT EVEN FUCKING TRYING!) no matter how much gravitas and RSC experience you bring to the mix, George's fucking lame dialogue will bring you down. Ian McDiarmid never had a chance in those sequels.<P> And the less we say about wasting MACE MOTHERFUCKING WINDU (read Matthew Stover's awesome SW novel SHATTERPOINT - now THAT is the Mace Windu we wanted to see!) and the walking redwood that is Anakin Plankwalking, the better.
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My hatred of the Lucas Side of the Force has blinded me. My critical faculties can't repel SUCK of that magnitude!
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I'll definitely watch if he's in it!!
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March 12, 2009, 5:13 a.m. CST
Still enjoy aspects of the PT - yes even Phanton Menance
by Miyamoto_Musashi
Think the fighting scene between Maul, Obi Wan and Qui Gon is one of the best lightsaber duals in all the movies, if not the best. <p> Personally overall in the trilogies I would have liked less of Dooku and more of Maul. We already had one old guy as a Sith, didn't need another <p>
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I completely do not understand why people love Darth Maul so much. I mean, yeah, he looks cool, but he has no character whatsoever. I like Dooku as a character more. He doesn't look as cool, but he is an interesting character with a darkly charismatic demeanor.
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The Thirst Mutlatior. And, of course, Carl Jr.'s.
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I will never forgive him for Jar-Jar, the absolutely piss-poor casting for Anakin, Darth Vader's "noooooooooo!", and his inexplicable desire to make the story for Indiana Jones 4 as ridiculous and lame as possible.
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See, I get those two mixed up - I think Count Dooku is an impression of Ian McKellen's MAGNETO in search of some motivation, while Darth Maul was the classic Star Wars cool-looking character who you REALLY wanted to know all the background to. The last character I felt like that about? BOBA FETT.<P> At least in STAR WARS TALES, there's a schlocky-but-great story where a bunch of Sith resurrectionists on (I think) Mustafar end up luring the newly named Darth Vader into an arena they have built, just to see if he can defeat their resurrected champion--<P> DARTH FUCKING MAUL.<P> Yes, it is every bit as cool as you can imagine. Even the ending is well-written - and no, it doesn't end in a musical number.<P> THAT'S how this project should go forward - get Dark Horse to assemble the Writers' Room, hire some decent SF TV directors (start on the crews from FIREFLY and BSG - fuck all tha haters) and get the comics creators to run this from A to Z. Darth Gizzard can then go to his meditation chamber in Marin County and fucking count money, whilst watching his ILM droids create the next generation in fake-ass video game demo climaxes to prequels THAT NO-ONE FUCKING WANTS.
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But your list of Darth's is magic spud. <P>I'd totally forgive lucas if he made a film with DARTH MOTHERFUCKER in it.
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This series should be John Goodman and John Turturro as a couple of mischievous space cowboys just trying to make a buck by doing things like killing ewoks, skinning 'em, and selling their hides to natives of Hoth. They would always be trying to sneak by the Empire's convoys and checkpoints and they'd have a female wookie with them called Gotchabacca who they would always make jokes about having sex with. I'm telling you: GOLD.
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Over the last couple days, I've been watching it. It's a very strange combination of awesome and godawful. Of course, the original cut leans in the godawful direction more, but there is stuff in the PE that had to stay which unfortunately is the worst stuff in the movie, ie exposition. Pretty much any conversation is death in this movie. When they're sitting around the table talking about pod racing, or when Qui Gon and Anakin's mom are talking about the virgin birth ... It's just so fuckin' AMATEUR.<p>ON the other hand, I like the kind of innocent vibe it achieves a lot of the time. Jar-Jar actually is part of that but he's still fucking terrible. Luckily the PE cuts him down to the bare minimum so he doesn't drive me nuts as he does in the original version.
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And agree with Spud, looks cool and you want to know more about them, Fett is the same. <p>
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...since he adopted himself a bunch of kids he became super pussified and deluded that he's some sort of UN Ambassador.
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Hope Lucas is as hands off as possible
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Definitely get the Dark Horse people involvled, since they seem to be the only writers who know how to do Star Wars in a way that both kids and adults can enjoy. I'd also love to see Lucas get some of the Firefly and BSG writers on this; but you know as well as I do that he won't. He'll hire a bunch of yes-men hacks to merely extend the franchise. It really sucks that the guy who created one of my favorite things ever is also the guy who is slowly, but surely, strangling it. *Sigh*<br><br> Btw, Lucas = Darth Gizzard! hahahaha! Nice one, man.
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There's a reason why Lucas let Zahn and others write what happened to Luke and company years ago... It's not interesting! Once you blow up the Death Star (for the second time) and destroy the Empire and Sith that's your happy ending. Who gives a shit about the rebellion fighting leftover Generals from the Empire, or some fucking clone of the Emporer, or some Jedi who finds a Sith Holocron and turns into a Sith. There's a reason why Lucas lets other people work on that stuff. It's not canonical and it's bullshit. The prequels, while poorly executed were a good idea... The original trilogy always hinted at a much richer beginning to the saga which Lucas was unable to deliver fully.
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Well said. <P> I'll even give a pass to the Ewoks... they were to the Empire what Zulus were the the British Army in the 1800s... not technologically advanced, but outnumbered their adversary. <P> Of course, Wookiees would have been WAY better. <P> I do have to say that ROTS was mostly enjoyable if uneven... sort of like ROTJ in my opinion. <P> Great Darth xxx names BTW. LOL!
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March 12, 2009, 8:41 a.m. CST
I see that Motoko Kusanagi's toys have fallen from his pram
by Roborob
I didn't fall for the hype of Ep 1, Jar Jar was irratating but not that big a deal overall a decent effort. Ep 2 Better lots of action which I Love. Ep 3 Was good but I think it could have been longer and thus slowed the pace of the movie down. The Animated Clone Wars was Good if a bit short and sofar the CGI clone Wars have been fun. But then I think Ep 4 is a bit slow. Ep 5 Great but I prefer Ep 6 as I like space battles. The new films didn't ruin my childhood, or rob me of my dreams thay are just movies nothing much more and if you attach any more importance to that then I suggest you seek help, Fast.
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for Wizards SW RPG thingie of exactly that Yojimbo/Kurosawa/Samurai/Western thing with a Calamari ronin guy. In black and white, too. <p> I also did one where the bad guys from those Ewok films were drug smugglers, and even better, Using a stolen shuttle like the one from the Disney Star Tours ride. I think Lucasfilm approvals were asleep at the wheel on that one - how it got through I'll never know! But it was awesome that it did!
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would have made an excellent young Han Solo. not sure how he's held up since then.
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It's a universe. Can't Jedi deal with anything other than Sith and Robots? Maybe a nasty alien race?
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George Lucas is a businessman, he is not fit to write or direct... and i'm pretty sure his producing skills are not good as well. And didn't he learn anything from the new trilogy? Enough is enough!
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Sorry it took so long to notice your reply to my post. I originally had the same thought, but dismissed it for three reasons: 1) The Dreadnaught was already considered obsolete long before the Clone Wars broke out due to it's requirement for such a large crew. 2) I know it's not CALLED a Dreanaught, but General Grievous' ship in Episode III sort of looks like an upgraded version of West End Games' Dreadnaught design. In my own little mind I imagine that Grievous modified a Dreadnaught and crewed it with droids. 3) The Dreadnaught is actually a pretty boring-looking ship http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/dreadnaught/img/dreadnaught.jpg
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Instead of a weekly, one-hour tv series, I'd much prefer an ongoing series of 2-hour tv movies. Each one could focus on a completely different set of characters, planets, droids, ships, contexts, and situations. That's the best way to really explore all the possibilities this Universe has to offer. An episodic series will inevitably become a soap opera, and runs the risk of really getting bogged down. With tv movies, you could have one about Han Solo at the Academy, another one following our favourite bounty hunters tracking someone down, another one that focuses on politics on Coruscant, etc, etc. (Star Trek also should have gone this route after Deep Space Nine instead of plaguing us with Voyager and Enterprise.)
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At least one episode MUST feature a "young" IG-88!!! Get Brent Spiner to do the voice, just for a little stunt casting. Hehehe.
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Here it goes:<P> PRINCESS LEIA'S GOLD BIKINI.<p> Even I am questioning my own sexuality after forgetting that. Jeeeesus...
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ILM takes fucking forever to gets its SFX done - and still we end up with shite like the battle at the end of REVENGE OF THE SITH, which looks like a fucking bad PS2 game demo.<P> Get Zoic - the SFX house that do FIREFLY and BSG - to do it. They're fast, they're awesome, and the only thing they do wrong is that ridiculous crash-zooming oh-so-fucking-real-except-it-isn't-really pseudo-documentary bollocks that happens ALL THE TIME in BSG. Hole the frame still, let us see the ships, and show us the magic.
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If you like Darth Motherfucker... meet his crew:<P> SITH BITCH - Don't fuck with this Dark Jedi. She his twin nipplesabres.<P> DARTH SHITHOUSE - Biggest bastard Sith Wampa in the SW universe. None too bright, though.<P> DARTH MANDELSON - Prince of Darkness. Evil ruler of Byss, the man in the Senate - there is no allegation Darth Mandelson cannot wriggle out of. Slipperier than an oiled up Twi'lek dancing chick.<P> DARTH CUNTLAPPER - the sexual deviant Sith Lord, famed for his four-handed twin-tentacled advances, able to wring involuntary orgasms out of over 600 different sentient species. His Tantric Sith Sex will have any dissident begging to unload their darkest secrets. Master Sith Sex Assassin.<P> DARTH FUKOO - The shadowy figure vying for power with Darth Sidious. Has bad dreams about being overthrown by some farmboy known as Lucas Shitlicker.<P> STAR WARS - RISE OF THE GIZZARD -- Coming Soon...
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It really gives the viewer an impression of the vast distances involved with dog fights in space. These guys aren't flying biplanes where they need to see the whites of their opponents' eyes before they can fire. These guys are out in the friggin' void. The crash zoom heightens the illusion that the starfighters are so far away from each other that even the camera operator has trouble finding them in the frame. I think it's an effective use of a pretty simple effect.
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The way they did her makeup and wardrobe in the Bespin scenes really upped the "jailbait" quotient that perverts remembered fondly from her appearance in Shampoo. In ROTJ she was way too much of an adult for the true sci-fi perv, gold bikini notwithstanding. (The danishes on her head in A New Hope killed all the sexy, of course... Hehehe...)
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... I'm Canadian and I get turned on by chicks who wear snowsuits. ;-)
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I would love to see an episode feature the zany adventures of Bungo and Rusti! Imagine what Lucas' fx wizards could do to realize a Giant Amorphous Bantha Breakfast Biscuit running amok on a Victory Class Star Destroyer, all in glorious Quicktime!!! I'm actually not kidding. I'd really love to see it.
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I actually LOVED the danishes on the head. Gives you something to pull her head down with...<P> Hit that, you sexy Aldreaanian posh totty BITCH!!!
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Big talk from the racist bitch that called the wookie a "walking-carpet"...... The cleaners called....your white sheet and hood are ready.....
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Leia SHOULD have been sexy in A New Hope, considering that she was completely soaked in the trash compactor while wearing a thin, white linen gown. Nudge nudge. Wink wink. Maybe an Alderaanian Senator's gown is made of high-tech material that doesn't allow one's naughty bit to show through when it gets wet?
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I gues you could say that she's a Lambda-Class-Shuttle Liberal. ;-)
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"These Federation types are cowards." You KNOW that line was an intentional crack at Star Trek. YOU JUST KNOW IT!!!
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Tales of the Sith who weren't quite good enough to be accepted into the upper ranks of the Sith hierarchy! Starring: Darth Annoyous, Darth Aggravos, Darth Obnoxius, Darth Malodorus, Darth Shrill, Darth Whine, Darth Petulas, Darth Impudus, Darth Disturbius, Darth Irritous, Darth Incommodius, Darth Pedantus, Darth Pederastis, Darth Flatulus, Darth Culpabus, Darth Delinquous, Darth Negligen, Darth Insensitus, Darth Impulsus, Darth Neglectus, and of course, Darth Sloth.
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Darth Sloven, Darth Cretinus, Darth Sulk, Darth Haplous, Darth Asinyne, Darth Defectus, and so one, and so forth...
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Probably
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Darth Feculus, Darth Nuisanus, Darth Burdenus, Darth Impedimus, Darth Quiescence, Darth Stagnus, Darth Pitivus, Darth Squalis, Darth Shoddius, Darth Stinjus, Darth Vomitus, Darth Glower, Darth Dispicabus, Darth Lamentabus, Darth Paltrous, Darth Inadequas, Darth Deplorabus, Darth Misthius, Darth Fermentus, Darth Psoriasus, Darth Strumpetus, Darth Licentius, Darth Lascivius, Darth Moll, Darth Bimbus, Darth Pervis, Darth Genitus, Darth Venereus, Darth Vulgus, Darth Bromidus, Darth Insipidus, Darth Prosayus, Darth Platitudinus, Darth Interminabus, Darth Vapidus, Darth Tedius, Darth Monotonus...
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-It's geared toward an adult audience, not teens, not children.<p> -Lucas is only Creative Director after 1st season.<p> -It'll mainly focus on minor characters. Cameos of major characters (Darth, etc).<p> -It will be MUCH darker than Clone Wars.<p> -It'll be shot in Austrailia.<p> -It'll be set right after Ep. 3. -It will spin-off into other shows (possibly 5).<p> -The complete season will be shot before airing.<p> -Each episode will cost ~$1million.<p> -Originally planned for 100 episodes.<p> Way more info here->http://tiny.cc/XtSNe
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Paul Rudd jumps to mind as having some swagger/humor/charisma that Han Solo had. It was what was sorely missing from the prequels.
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Think about the times in history immmediately after any big war or revolution. Those periods aren't really fodder for great adventure stories. Rather, it's a time of reconstruction and self-assessment. It's the moment when leaders take time to debrief, dissect their mistakes are consider new strategies, consolidate public opinion, and so on. I mean, really, there aren't too many great adventure stories set in 1946, ya know? Historically, the next wave of high drama doesn't start until at LEAST five years after the end of a big conflict, and probably really a decade should go by first. That's when enough time has passed for the winners' public image to tarnish a little, for the losers to have regrouped a bit, and for the sideliners to have consolidated their power. Think 1950 with the emergence of the Cold War, the war in Korea, and independence movements springing up all over the place. That's a MUCH better context for a Star Wars series.
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Shatner + Spader + Scum and Villany = GREATEST TV OF ALL TIME!!!
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. . . it takes between five to ten years for the technologies that were developed during wartime to start becoming more widespread. Again, use World War II as an example. Immediately after the war people were getting by using converted war surplus, like army transports converted into airliners. It was another five to ten years before things like atomic power, jet air travel, and communications technology really started to take off. Again, this is the best context for a Star Wars series. At the end of ROTS the Trade Federation's been destroyed. It'd take about five to ten years for corporate competitors to fill that vacuum. It would take about five to ten years for the Empire's strategists to figure out where the next military threats were going to come from, and to start building new war machines to meet that threat (i.e., development projects like Kuat's new Star Destroyer designs, Sienar's new TIE designs, etc). Until the 1950s, western nations were still using surplus military hardware. It was during the 1950s that new fighter jets, missle designs, and weapon systems started rolling off the assembly lines. Heck, as context for Star Wars, at around the five-year-mark or the ten-year-mark the Imperial military industrial complex would need to start a few "brushfire wars" in order to field-test their new capital ships, starfighter concepts, and Stormtrooper tactics. Once again I refer to the 1950s. Not only was that the time that new designs were coming out, but it was also the period where designs were field-tested and kink were worked out. This led the way for the much better designs that came later, just in time for Vietnam and the Space Race. A Star Wars series should take place during a Galactic version of 1953, not a Galactic version of 1946.
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for the multiple versions of every season that will inevitably be released including the special edition of season 1 that has a character introduced in season 2 digitally inserted into various scenes. Love that shit! Imagine the fun George can have if a character needs recasting between seasons, he'll be in his element!
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* space pirates with vibro-swords * zero-gravity stormtroopers * an episode set on board the Kuari Princess * cyberpunk-style corporate espionage - with droids! * the inside story about how the Empire nationalizes Incom * overt racism towards alien species * overt classism with rich Core Worlders looking down on folk from the Outer Rim * Ord Mantell * Nar Shaddaa * Dantooine * Moffs, Moffs and more Moffs * armless Gundarks * Nerf Herders * T-16 Skyhoppers * badass swoop gangs * Bothan spies * a hot young Mon Mothma * Hutt scenes that blatantly rip off The Godfather and Goodfellas * Sorosuub labour relations * Mungo Baobab and the Baobab Merchant Fleet AND/OR at least one mention of the Cloak of the Sith * Gladiator and Victory Class Star Destroyers * Admiral Screed * giant green rabbits! (just kidding)...
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You need to add to that list the classic Marvel strip that explains how Wedge's gunner Janson managed to survive on Hoth after he missed the last Rebel transport off that rock. It's told in the form of Janson's last recording being found and played by Wedge... and the ending is great. <P> Oh, and I want to see giant green rabbits, and Hedji the badass bipedal hedgehog. Fucking genius.<P> Oh, one more thing... had Lucas stuck to rewriting that Indiana Jones in Atlantis strip that Marvel's RETURN OF THE JEDI mag ran in the UK in the early 80s, THEN INDIANA 4 MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN THE FUCKING EPICENTRE OF SUCK THAT IT TURNED OUT TO BE!!!<P> Just sayin'...
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"Guess we're not going to Guam, huh Doc?"<P> Matthew Fox looks at Darth Lapidus, his eyes watering like fucking ALWAYS.<P> "You have failed me for the last time, Party of Five."<P> Darth Lapidus crushes Matthew Fox's neck with the Power of the Force.<P> Southern Corellian mercenary and smuggler James "Sawyer" Solo gets to take Princess Lilly up the Kessel Run in waaaaaaaay less than twelve parsecs.<P> John Locke looks on, muttering "When 900 years YOU reach, have as much hair you will not."<P> Then the island disappears. AGAIN.
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Go take out Darth Gizzard and run the show. your ideas are actually quite funkdafied, and I think you'd do a bang up job. Someone remove Georgie the Hutt and bring in Royston for showrunner...
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... Darth Inadequas. But I'm also fond of Darth Venereus and Darth Psoriasus.
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... just recruit a team of former Star Wars gamemasters (d6, not that d20 bullshit). This sort of hooey is ALL we ever thought about!
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March 12, 2009, 7:41 p.m. CST
Evangaline Lilly for scrappy but loveable Imperial officer
by lockesbrokenleg
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I know some people want post ROTJ stuff, but some much crap happens in the expanded unuverse the average movie/tv watchwer will have a hard time catching up. "What? Chewies dead?" "Yes, a moon crushed him" "Han had and Leia had kids?" "Three, but one died and the other went dark side so they pretty much only have a daughter." "What the hell is Yuzahn Vong?"Head xplodes]
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LOL. seriously, go so far back in time that we get something NEW.
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Things NOT to include in the series: Kyle Katarn * Mara Jade * Dark Troopers * Rodian children * more than one Jedi, maybe, and even then keep the audience guessing as to whether he's REALLY a Jedi, or just an escaped mental patient who just THINKS he's a Jedi * weapons of mass destruction that make the Death Star seem wimpy by comparison * cloaking devices * Bea Arthur.
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<p>While I would say that I didn't hate Ep I and II as much as most people, Revenge of the Sith is, without a doubt, the worst thing in the Star Wars universe. Darth Vader's "Noooooooo!" scream summed it up best. The idea that Anakin would jump from conflicted to "ok, I'll go kill some children for you" in the space of a minute was beyond incomprehensible. Darth Vader's fall to the dark side story was better done with Londo Mollari's fall in B5.</p> <p>I actually thought the Phantom menace made the best prequel, if for no other reason than it had the best lightsaber fight of the entire series. I also dug the hell out of Amidala's crazy outfits, as gay as that sounds. Yeah, Jar Jar sucked, but I'll still take him over the crap that was Ep III.</p> <p>Knights of the Old Republic gave me all the, post-original, Star Wars fix that I needed. That story would have made a better movie than any of the prequels.</p>
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in Golden Girls! I agree with the others though. And no Dash Rendar/Captain Mal/watered down wannabes either. ;)
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I fondly look back at pre-1997 SW, and think how great it was, and how it stood at the top of movie making for its genre. Now SW is just a punchline and loved by 5 year old kids and geeks who defend Lucas on EVERYTHING he does without looking at it objectively. Before 1997, we just called them Star Wars, Empire, and Jedi, no episode #'s, no special editions updates, no did Han shoot first, no prequels, no overused CGI, no Lucas giving his fanbase the middle finger. We as fans rejected The Holiday Special, the Ewoks & Droids Cartoons, so we stood lockstep as a fanbase for all those years. If Lucas would just put out the OOT on BluRay in a seperate boxset, I won't give a shit what he does with the series, as long as I can enjoy the original versions with Han shooting first, and Shaw as the ghost at the end of Jedi. I still love those 3 movies, as they rank #1, #2, and #3 on my favorite movie list, but they have been ruined by Lucas in the past 12 years by his constant tinkering and contempt for the fanbase that made him a millionaire. It is amazing how George Lucas was GOD to me as a kid, and now he is The Emperor. Ironic huh?
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I am so there with you on this. STAR WARS fans are like the Rihannas of fandom - our asses get beaten, yet we go back, time and fucking time again. hoping this time he'll be great to us again - every time just getting another beatdown. It's so depressing being a hardcore SW OT fan these days...
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Anyone who actually likes that should be forced to chin-fuck Lucas.
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- just without the looks, money and talent. And tight arse. ;)
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I'm gonna have nightmares for fucking YEARS! And this from a fellow Professional ;D
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Since I was one of few young men to escape the English public school system WITHOUT losing my anal virginity, I can attest to the fact that my ass is much, much tighter than Rihanna's. Nowhere near as cute, but DEFINITELY tighter.<P> Again, a fellow Professional giving me evils. Baaaastard! ;P
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to Chris "Whupass" Brown at P Diddy's crib, yo, some time last week. Not smart.<P> But then again, we dumbass hardcore SW OT fans have been married to Lucas' creation for over three decades, and the bastard just keeps on giving out the whuppings. <P> I just can't take this much longer!!!
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that if you're an English Public School boy, you sir HAVE no arse! You may have me on a technicality about the tightness, but that's probably a play on words about your fiscal acumen on top of being, well, a Pom. But we're all professionals here, even Prossor whose scarring imagery is truly worthy of the Baleback. He trashed our mental scene! <p> Oh I found that SW Ronin/Kurosawa illo I did/was talking about and the Star Tours drugrunners one too: <p>http://tinyurl.com/aa9r7b <p>http://tinyurl.com/arnk6k
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See I finally smartened up after ROTS, as I still haven't not seen The Clone War Movie, and don't give a crap about the cartoon that is currently airing on Cartoon Network. I still post about the old days, just in case there are bunch of teenagers who doesn't understand what SW was like before 1997. I know Lucas has re-written history, but there are OOT fans like me who will always be here to set the record straight: IT WASN'T ALWAYS CALLED THE TRAGEDY OF DARTH VADER!!!! SW was a standalone movie in 1997 that Lucas didn't think would be a huge hit, and had no idea where to take the story. It became the #1 movie of all-time, EVERYBODY loved it and he made ESB to fund his new project Skywalker Ranch. Somewhere between 1977-1979 he changed the whole story and made Darth Vader Lukes father, and the rest is history. He never wanted to make the PT or ST, he just talked about this huge story because he got caught up in the hype, but in the end he made 3 OT movies and that was it. There was a reason he put a 65 year old Anakin in the ghost scene at the end of ROTJ, and not some 25 year old back in 1983, and that why he annoys fans like me because he keeps rewriting SW over and over, and young kids buy it hook line and sinker.
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SW was made as a standalone movie in 1977, not 1997. Sorry!
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Well, if you saw the movie in 1977, the opening crawl just said, "Star Wars" and didn't have the title Episode IV: A New Hope til the re-release in 1981 AFTER ESB was released in theaters. I am not inside George Lucas's head, I am just stating the facts that apparently you don't know, which goes to my point that Lucas has rewritten history and you guys have fallen for it!
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I prefer to think of the special edition in 1997 as a "standalone" too! <p> And way to fuck up, sector whateveryourphonenumberis - fuckup #1 - "part 4". Fuckup #2 - 'homophobic' Doctor Who fans! Really! That show and it's fans are about as far from bigots as you can get. And You've obviously never heard of the guy that brought all the fans back... Fuckup #3 - you screaming hypocrite - there's more whining in your couple of posts than anything by Spud. That's three strikes, ya little amateur.
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Sorry romanoc and others, but I think the evidence points to Vader originally being Luke's father as planned by Lucas. There are plenty of hints to it in the original(beru: "he's just too much like his fatther", owen: "that's what I'm afraid of") as well as the mention of the backstory. (obiwan: "before the empire"). Even some quote about Lucas saying to the scriptwriter for ESB something like yep, we're going ahead with the original plan about Vader being Luke's father. Although the 9part could have been made up doing Lucas' living up his hype during 1980. He procrastinated so much he didn't write a his script for TPM until the year before filming (see the video docs about him "struggling" to find a story for TPM ) when he exaggerated how much backstory he had. While Jackson had worked on his LOTR script since 1997 and even planned out the Helm's Deep battle in 1998 with army figures. I'm not so sure about Leia being the sister though. Just maybe Han was so popular and they felt to match Leia up with Han instead of a nerdy young boy for ESB.
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Come on guys, just watch SW in the context of not thinking about any sequels, and the movie works perfectly. Hey, I love that Lucas changed Vader being Lukes father, but I know that it wasn't what he originally had planned. When Beru talks about 'He is too much like his father' she is referring to him wanting to get out Tatooine, being adventurous, just like his father, who became a jedi and was killed by Darth Vader, a pupil of ObiWan Kenobi. As for Leia being Lukes sibling, that was NEVER there, as he kisses her in ESB!!! If Lucas put alittle incest in ESB to throw the audience off, then he is sicker then I thought! Lucas has said he had notes about pre-SW when he was writing the movie, just to give him a context as to where all the characters came from, and I think after SW became so big, he thought about doing this 9 part saga, only to realize that it would probably take 25 years of his life, and realized it wasn't worth it. If you watch the movies now 1-6, alot of shit doesn't make sense, because Lucas kept improvising storylines, and that is why Owen owned C3PO from Episode I to II, and then bought him 20 years later in Episode IV, yet doesn't recognize him!
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But I AM the homophobic Doctor Who fan in all those talkbacks! Wait a minute...<P> TEGUJAI BATIR!!!<p> You're my fucking gay TB stalker, come back to flame me to death about my supposed Dr Who "homophobia"! Well, we're not going down that route, partly 'cos I said everything I wanted to say about RTD's lack of writing skill and his heavily-weighted-towards-gay-rights-but-fuck-everyone-else's "gay agenda" last year. Go look at the old WHO TBs. there you'll find me, though if you are (as I suspect) my psychotic TB stalker Tegujai Batir you already know this.<P> As for being a gay-bashing homophobe... you fucking amateur. I'm a PROFESSIONAL, Goddammit, and we have gay people in our ranks, we have Muslims, we have Republicans, we have white folks - shit, I'm an English ex-public schoolboy! WE ACCEPT ALL PEOPLE!!!<P> Except you. You're a twat who doesn't even have a cursopry knowledge of how STAR WARS was developed, created and made. You, sir, are a dumb shit, and need to GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY SCENE! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE? GIMME A FUCKING ANSWER!!!
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Luke also gets a peck on the lips from Leia in STAR WARS -- just before they swing across the chasm in the Death Star, en route to getting back to the Falcon. They some freaky-deaky siblings right there. It's like the TATOOINE CHAINSAW MASSACRE! Fucking inbreds...
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He obviously knows me from the Dr Who TBs from the last few years. I absolutely hated any episodes written by RTD, usually because as a gay man himself, RTD seems to think he has to crowbar gay characters into Dr Who at every turn just to somehow modernise it or something. It's no bad thing to write gay characters into mainstream TV - and SF TV is a great place to discuss such things - but RTD was completely disproportionate with it, to the point that a character would literally appear in an episode just to say something to the effect of "Hey, I'm fgay and it's OK" and add nothing to the plot or narrative. It's deeply amateurish writing, from a man who has exceptional ideas but fucks them up in the actual execution of them, and I coined the term "gay agenda" as a short-hand for the intent behind RTD shoehorning gay references into his Who eps without them having any bearing on furthering the plot or characters whatsoever. I think SF fans are the last fans on Earth who need their horizons broadening - they're pretty clued up and accepting of everyone already, without heavy-handed prosetylising and kowtowing to one particular minority's views while completely ignoring those of other, equally valid minorities. Especially MY view, which is that I don't hate ANYBODY gay, but I reserve the right to hate their hypocrisy if it obstructs my enjoyment of a series I have supported as a fan for several decades.<P> Shit, this political correctness thing is a fucking minefield. WHAT DON'T SECTOR BLAHBLAHBLAH FUCKING UNDERSTAND?<P> Me and Sector blahblahblah? DONE PROFESSIONALLY!
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I have to admit something fairly disturbing.<P> This weekend, I saw THE CLONE WARS on the big screen for the first time.<P> Bale forgive me... I ENJOYED IT!<P> Oh sure, it has some fucking awful bits in it: the Nathan-Lane-from-THE-BIRDCAGE Zero the Hutt; a complete lack of any coherent dialogue during the combat sequences (Doesn't Lucas understand ANYTHING about battlefield strategy? Can't characters say stuff like "Take the left flank, we're going to outmaneovre him on the right" instead of "Rex! Battle formation!" for the umpteenth time?!?); and since when did circa 1987 Valley Girls sign up for Jedi Knight training? But once you get past that, the action is quite good, the production design is great (loved the new ships in the movie), the plot trumps anything in the prequels (note to Lucas: simplicity is a GOOD FUCKING THING); and we get to see Asajj Ventress in action. Anakin is more heroic and less annoying than Hayden Christwhataplank, and Obi-Wan gets to kick ass too. It's REALLY NOT ALL THAT BAD!<P> It helps, of course, that I had a head full of Baleawful reviews for this flick (even Harry hated it!) and my expectations could not have been lower if my life depended on it. But you know? I actually not only DIDN'T hate it, I quite enjoyed it. No mean feat after all the childhood-raping that's been going on in these parts since at least 1997.<P> This is not a recommendation, by the way. If you can't lower your expectations THAT LOW, don't go see it. You'll only want to kill Ahsoka Tano, Zero the Hutt, and Stinky the Huttlet. And then probably Goerge Lucas too.
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You are absolutely right. If nothing else the prequels just don't fit into the mythology established by the first 3 movies. It just doesn't make sense on so many levels. Lucas pretty much briefly explained what happened in the "prequels" on Tatooine in the first movie, and none of that matches with the movies we got. My only hope for this show is that it would follow a couple of Han and Chewie like rogues on misadventures throughout the galaxy. But it will suck. You know it will.
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Even Michael Dudikoff is smart enough to stay away from this turd.
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Yeah I do remember that and I guess I didn't articulate very well, I was speaking about Who fans in general. But even your supposed gay 'bashing' was not about being gay per se. It's like Lucas being a car nut and putting a car race in every fucking - 0h, wait. Um, anyway, you know what I mean. There are plenty of gay men and women who don't feel the need to be screaming queens and hide behind a gay conspiracy, and similarly straight women who don't feel everything is a male sexist boys' club conspiracy - oh wait. Public school boy... Er, I'm a straight guy who doesn't feel the need to bring my sexuality or football preferences into every conversation where it's not an issue. I agree that sexual preference isn't an outrageously interesting plot point on it's own when it's tangential. It's lazy. Nothing necessarily to do with any predilection at all. So I didn't really see it as anything more than you taking someone to task for lazy writing. I'm sure you'd complain if stereotypical hetero clichés were used the same way. RTD is a two sided thing for me as well. He does go overboard on the cheese which you can't really fault as bad writing because it's intentional and part of what he loves about Dr. Who, and he does paint in broad strokes certainly, but I agree as a producer he was a good barometer I think and could be quite objective in terms of structure and pace and so on. And hey, he DID bring the Doctor back to life. If only we could have got two whole seasons out of Ecclestone though... Tennant is great though. I dunno about this new guy but at least they've got the best guy to run the show post RTD. Speaking of him and his Welsh accent, I'm reminded of my comments in the Baleback about His Baleness overcompensating for his Welsh-ness. It IS actually a super-gay accent! ;) <p> And obviously people like him, but I don't reckon Captain Jack has ANY charisma, gay OR straight! Do you like Torchwood? <p> And you are right about 1987 Valley Girls - they're all like what-EVERRR! And while Bale may forgive you, he'll make you watch Genndy's stuff 20 times as penance. That show won't be any good until it gets some of my Star Tours drugrunners in there, Goddammit. <p> Finally, if Vader was indeed Luke and Leia's Dad all along, he did a fucking awful job not recognising her all those years on the other side of the Imperial Senate... some force-sensitive bloke HE was, not to mention his daughter stood a pretty fucking good chance of looking and having character traits of either him or his wife...
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I think as a showrunner he's the business - he comes up with great epic ideas, interesting characters (Captain Jack being the incredibly annoying exception) and some great ideas for season arcs, characters arcs etc. Some of the best dramatic ideas in new Who were RTD's. Unfortunately, then he thinks he can actually write (which he's quite limited at), and ends up ruining some potentially great ideas with limp, insipid dialogue and crowbarring heavy-handed gay references in there. One thing that REALLY grated on my nerves was in RTD's THE SECOND COMING: Eccleston is in a bar after realising he's the Second Coming, when a militant gay dude (bald, dressed like Jimmy Somerville circa 1983, wearing an OUT & PROUD t-shirt under a duffel coat) comes up to him, opens his coat and says "So what do you think about this then?" (his being gay). Eccleston says "Fine by me, mate," and the gay guy wanders off, still angry but now also confused. The idea was fine, but there was no development of the fact that one of Eccleston's mates in the show was a Muslim - couldn't THAT have been a REALLY provocative and thoughtful B-plot ot carry through? What effect would the incarnation of one religion's deity have on the OTHER religions? Not a great deal is made of this. Why? Because as long as RTD gets HIS point (that it's okay to be gay) across, screw anybody else's. It turns a potentially interesting premise into a shallow premise with one glaringly obvious "it's okay to be gay!" scene in there, which doesn't advance the plot AT ALL. Just lazy, shoddy writing.<P> And the shoddy hetero version of this? The fucking love triangle / square / trapezoid / who-fucking-cares thing in LOST. Since the most interesting thing by far in that show is the Island and its mythos - and the backgrounds of Ben and Locke - this whole tired Who-will-Kate-choose-in-the-end? thing is so fucking pointless that I'm hoping she actually gets killed off before the end. This is a cynical, put-in-there-specially-for-the-girlies storyline that has absolutely nothing to do with the bigger picture. Why drag this pointless shit out? DEMOGRAPHICS. God forbid we follow the most interesting aspects of LOST, when we might lose the bored housewife who never watches anything SF demographic!<P> The Lost love-fest is the perfect example of a hetero version of RTD's gay agenda - relationships for the sake of having one, not because it advances the greater narrative.<P> Oh, and the public schoolboy thing? I just toss it out there sometimes to confuse the Spud-haters from way back in the Who TBs. It's no biggie. It's true, but it's no big deal.<P> TORCHWOOD is the equivalent of getting a bunch of hormonal 14 year old boys to write an "adult" sci-fi show, and being told they can put as much sex and swearing in the show as possible, as long as they over-represent the amount of gay and bi sex in the series. Series 2 was much the same, but with the addition of Captain Spike-from-Buffy.<P> And yes, John Barrowman is utterly abysmal in this series. I think the only people who think Captain Jack is a great, well-rounded character are Barrowman and RTD himself. I can't think of one scene with Barrowman in that wouldn't be improved by removing Barrowman completely. If there's a gay actor nowadays doing more damage to the gay demographic by advancing the all-gay-men-are-shallow-and-sex-obssessed steretype, I don't know who they are. If Peter Tatchell wants to start blaming people for stereotyping gay men as shallow and image-obsessed, I'd send him to RTD first.<P> Sorry for the sermon. I naturally over-react to twats like Sector blahblahblah up there. It's annoying not being able to say "Hey, I don't like the way RTD writes" without being called a homophobic bigot. Especially when the accuser is a twat.<P> Glad you understood my position, though. DONE PROFESSIONALLY...
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Interesting, since he seems to sense Luke all the way through the OT. Jedi senses retconning is a bitch...
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Public school prejudice/namecalling is actually "Private school" namecalling! I went to them, but the Catholic blue-collar version, not the wanky grammar schools. It's fun to toss it at you regardless! <p> I don't catch regular telly what with funny hours and working in da moobies and all. I do love catching things all at once on DVD though. So basically it took me until last year to get as far as Arrested Development, Just watched Flight of the Conchords, Madmen and Weeds, and no, still haven't caught Lost (so forgive me if I skipped a few lines there Spud ol pal), Alias, 24, and even The Office. Actually, bringing it full circle, I'm just onto "Planet of the Ood" having finally reached season 4. So don't spill anything, right? ;) As far as Lost and Dexter go, I'm just waiting for the Blu-rays to hit. And if anyone else is still listening they'll probably flame me out of existence now - also waiting for the whole shebang on Blu-ray to finally watch (an American mate did force me to watch a few epsodes before I got on the plane and I did love it), er, BSG. The shame... <p> And you know the funny thing? I don't even believe Barrowman as a gay character, whether he is in real life or not! Ironic, considering all we've talked about. And oh boy, from the sound of things you don't want to read that book RTD wrote about the making of the show... but please tell me the Sarah Jane show is all right... <p> Thanks, fellow professional. Right. It's a quarter to 7 in the morning, and I'm supposed to start on a movie sequel that will be labelled heresy or fake by half the fantasy-loving fanboys in the world... might need a bit of the old white vader to get me going! Snort! ;)
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I hope I didn't ruin anything in my LOST rant - hopefully not, as the Kate/Jack/Sawyer thing has been around since the beginning of Season 1. I do envy you the experience of catching LOST from the very beginning (watching all the seasons over a couple of weeks would be AWESOME) and I hope you enjoy the rest of S4 of WHO - I think Donna is one of the best companions by the end of the series, and I was very anti-Tate when I heard the announcement! She's brilliant - brings the realism and the drama, but without losing the feistyness or the fun. She's really great.<P> As for BSG... by God! We're about three eps from the end of the series - it's kept its original integrity all the way through. That's unprecedented in an SF TV series - I think only BABYLON 5 and FARSCAPE have previously done that. BSG really is the best in SF on TV (I'd class LOST as more drama with SF elements than straight SF, otherwise I'm a LOSTIE all the way).<P> As for SARAH JANE... far and away the best WHO spin-off. At times, it can be better than WHO itself. I'm loving it - though it is very obviously aimed at a younger demographic than WHO, it's never patronising, and is always enjoyable. As for RTD'S WRITER'S TALE, I've heard the chapter on fanboys is just called BASTARDS, but he's so damn childish about any criticism anyway I just expect him to flame the hardcore fans anyway. He deserves the slating we give him, if only because he keeps on insisting on dispensing with logic and waving a magic wand at the end of each series (witness that fucking abhorrence that was Dobby the Time Elf in LAST OF THE TIME LORDS. Not a single frame of that finale made any fucking sense!!!)<P> As for that sequel... if it is:<P> DARK CRYSTAL 2 - Please give us more of that awesome mythology, more background on the War that erupted when the crystal was shattered, and I'd love to see the Chamberlain again. Yeah, I know. He could still come back though...<P> LAST STARFIGHTER 2 - Just make it wistful, with that yearning to do great things but being stuck in a life too small for your dreams. THAT'S what I took from the first movie, as well as a deep and abiding love for Catherine Mary Stewart, and that cool battle at the end. And we need a next gen Death Blossom!<P> TR2N - Just make it rock. Everything TRON had, turned up to 11.<P> SPIDERMAN X - Don't care what you do. It can't get any worse than 3.<P> KING CONAN - No Arnie, no point. Tell them to remake MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE instead.<P> TERMINATOR: PROFESSIONALS. What don't you FUCKING UNDERSTAND? GIMME A FUCKING ANSWER!<p> Cheers, Professional, and may Nigella and Lt Andy smile upon you! TRASH THAT FUCKING SEQUEL'S LIGHTS!!!
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Heh! Yes, I'll be a PROFESSIONAL! I've got a kickarse scene that will fully trash your lights in a couple of years' time... I know you'll fucking understand when you see it. 'Fuck's sake! <p> Dr. Who - the book stuff I mean was behind the scenes who fancies who (geddit?!) sort of gear. And all that implies. But like I said. I haven't read it yet either. Oh the hypocrisy! ;) <p> Cool about Sarah Jane! <p> Off to think about Nigella for a bit. 'Scuse me...
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