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Harry lets TALES OF THE BLACK FREIGHTER and UNDER THE HOOD play out before his eyes!

WATCHMEN: TALES OF THE BLACK FREIGHTER & UNDER THE HOOD In total - there's over an hour or so worth of content on this DVD. I think that a lot of you will probably pass this release, hoping that this content will appear on some miraculous future WATCHMEN ultimate edition - and you're probably right - you'll most likely put this on a Netflicks queue before then though - and you definitely should. I put this in at approximately 5am this morning - and it absolutely riveted me. Upon unsheathing the disc from the case, I instantly chose to see UNDER THE HOOD - as I hadn't heard how that would be adapted. I quickly found out. It is in the form of a pre-Keene Act news program that was about Superheroes / Masked Heroes in America. It has lengthy interviews with Hollis Mason and Sally Jupiter, and newsreel footage of the various members of the Minutemen doing their thing. This is all WATCHMEN mega-geek overload stuff. Completely authentic feeling. The news show was very faithfully created and is critical of Hollis' book and heroes themselves. Interviewing people on the street about their thoughts and some surprising Watchmen side characters show up to talk as well! I found this very satisfying. It runs a shave over 37 minutes. Then there's TALES OF THE BLACK FREIGHTER. I fucking loved it! Atmospheric, haunting, creepy and a fantastic short film all on its own. I wish that they'd hold the DVD release - and release this first in a select few theaters for Academy Qualification. TALES OF THE BLACK FREIGHTER is very faithfully adapted - featuring the voice of Gerard Butler as the castaway. The feeling I got watching it (saw it 3 times tonight) is of a lost Poe or Lovecraft or EC story. The parallels and metaphoric references are all in there to work as a companion to the WATCHMEN universe, but better than that - this 21 minute animated short film is absolutely a solid work in and of itself. At points it feels very Graham Ingels or Bernie Wrightson. I love that this is hand animation at work, because it literally brings that comic to life. The score helps to enhance the fear - but Butler sounds like a man on the brink of insanity - clawing at reality as it tears upon his fingertips. The shark attack on the raft... Quint will die - and all JAWS fans and shark attack junkies should love it as well. This short film is R-rated and uncompromising in its conveyance of dread and melancholy. It is perfect. The only significant special Feature is the STORY WITHIN A STORY: THE BOOKS OF WATCHMEN - which is a very nice feature about why Zack felt it was important to give life to these two parts of the WATCHMEN story, which so many would have thought instantly eliminated from consideration. You'll find Len Wein and Dave Gibbons throughout this doc - along with various members of Zack's creative team - and lots of behind the scenes footage. It runs about 25 minutes. So in all this whole package is about an hour and a half - not counting the GREEN LANTERN preview or the 1st chapter of the Motion Comic for the WATCHMEN. I'd say this. If you loved WATCHMEN this weekend - then this is definitely worth picking up. It really made me want to go back and watch the film again for a fourth time!

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  • March 10, 2009, 8:20 a.m. CST

    I need to pick this up...

    by R L S

    I'm still confused slightly whether or not I loved Watchmen. It was good, to be sure, but I need to see it again before I commit fully to an opinion.

  • March 10, 2009, 8:21 a.m. CST

    I think Harry is on amphetamines or something

    by chrth

    How many articles you plan on posting this morning, big guy? Not that I'm complaining or nothing ...

  • March 10, 2009, 8:21 a.m. CST

    Yeah, I'm thinking rental for now...

    by rev_skarekroe

    ...purchase if it comes out as part of a Watchmen DVD box set thingy.

  • March 10, 2009, 8:22 a.m. CST

    Can't wait...

    by 11ZOMBIES

    ...I love hand drawn animation!

  • March 10, 2009, 8:23 a.m. CST

    I want the Ultra Mega Set

    by redfist

    With this, the animated book, and the 4.72 hour Zach Attack version of Watchmen...MAKE IT SO.

  • March 10, 2009, 8:26 a.m. CST

    After seeing the film ............

    by Judge_Dredd

    I don't know if i can be bothered to watch these. Thanks Snyder for making a hollow shitty film.

  • March 10, 2009, 8:30 a.m. CST



    I had a 5 hour energy drink (no sugar) to power me through my DVD column and my brain went into writing overload.

  • March 10, 2009, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Thanks Snyder for making one of the few...

    by WhinyNegativeBitch

    ...Risky and exciting studio films in years. Anyway, the new ending seems to rob the black freighter of its point, kind of, and I'm torn as to wether to wait for a big ass super duper directors cut with all this shit in, or just watch this stuff now.

  • March 10, 2009, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Three Watchmen links, if you're interested...

    by Kevin Holsinger

    Black20's "Watchmantis":<p><p>Not their best work, but maybe somebody else will like it.<p>The dubbed Watchmen trailer:<p><p>"I'm a Marvel...I'm a DC", Watchmen edition:<p>

  • March 10, 2009, 8:34 a.m. CST

    Time to go shopping.

    by clw1227

    R ratted, hand drawn cartoon, I'm in.

  • March 10, 2009, 8:38 a.m. CST

    harry you talk about being geeks too much...

    by thekylegassproject

    can't we just BE geeks and not TALK ABOUT being geeks.<p> because then it's just geek chic. which is getting all too entwined with emo anymore. and none of us want that association...

  • March 10, 2009, 8:45 a.m. CST

    There's an odd part of me...


    that wants to write a quick evisceration of the turd that was STREET FIGHTER - I found myself in San Antonio with 3 hours to kill prior to seeing WATCHMEN in IMAX and the only thing starting was... STREET FIGHTER. Sometimes - just sitting quietly and patiently is the right thing to do.

  • March 10, 2009, 8:46 a.m. CST

    I'm not paying for content that should have....

    by Playkins

    ...just been included on the Extra Features of the DVD in the first place.

  • March 10, 2009, 8:46 a.m. CST


    by odo19

    I was under the impression that the original ending would be put back into the film for the directors cut. At least thats what I heard. That goes for all the people complaining about Ozy's cat thing.

  • March 10, 2009, 8:47 a.m. CST

    Under the Hood could be intercut on the film

    by ricarleite

    Making the ultimate home version a 5 hour long cut. Fucking epic.

  • March 10, 2009, 8:48 a.m. CST


    by odo19

    DO.........IT. Massas review wasnt nearly enough.

  • March 10, 2009, 8:49 a.m. CST

    and why the fuck didnt Vern review it?

    by odo19

  • March 10, 2009, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Streetfighter review

    by NedNederlander

    Harry, the above few lines is really all we need to hear on that one. Thanks. Did anyone seriously think it would be good?

  • March 10, 2009, 8:57 a.m. CST

    " literally brings that comic to life"

    by Sw0rdfish

    Oh, realllllly?

  • March 10, 2009, 8:59 a.m. CST

    " literally brings that comic to life"

    by Sw0rdfish

    And do you get your cash from an ATM machine?

  • March 10, 2009, 9:07 a.m. CST


    by DeadPanWalking

    hahahaha, nice.

  • March 10, 2009, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Did Massa ever do Part 2 of his Watchmen review?

    by Kevin Holsinger

    I don't recall seeing it.

  • March 10, 2009, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Should call it the "Absolute Edition"

    by most excellent ninja

    makes sense no?

  • March 10, 2009, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Why aren't these cut in with the extended DVD?

    by dr sauch

    Fucking sucks.

  • March 10, 2009, 9:16 a.m. CST

    I love who Dave Gibbons

    by Series7

    Is in like anything I see about the Watchmen, essentially saying fuck you to Alan Moore for being such a negative Nancy.

  • March 10, 2009, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Scumcock: That was his point

    by chrth

    Although nothing is as bad as 'The La Brea Tar Pits'

  • March 10, 2009, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Watchmen: the motion comic...

    by Sephiroid

    ... Couldn't they pay different voice actors? For fuck's sake... Even the female voices are being voiced by the guy that does all the other voices... BTW here's another review for Watchmen:

  • March 10, 2009, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Department of Redundency Department

    by Sw0rdfish

    Scumcock--That was the point. If you don't believe me, check chrth.

  • March 10, 2009, 9:27 a.m. CST

    Jumbo Shrimp

    by redfist

    Free love

  • March 10, 2009, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Anyone else bored of Watchmen?

    by IAmMrMonkey!

    All I want is the book. I don't need your DVDs, interviews with the actors all over the magazines, prequel and sequel video games, halloween masks, branded sweets or any other rubbish.

  • March 10, 2009, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Harry's complete lack of writing ability aside...

    by whitty

    ...this DVD sounds pretty good.

  • It's just wrong. I hope.......

  • March 10, 2009, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Debating Whether Or Not To Buy It Now, Or Wait For Extended Cut

    by LaserPants

    I'm more curious about the Under The Hood stuff than the Black Freighter stuff, actually.

  • March 10, 2009, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Watchmen will be released in more editions than LotR

    by Spandau Belly

    There will be the barebones theatrical cut edition.<br>The directors cut.<br>The edition with both the theatrical and director's cuts.<br>Another edition with a third cut that nobody really claims responsibility for, but the studio feels audiences might find interesting. Maybe they'll call Outcast Edition or something.<br>Then there will be the same DVD but with three cuts of the movie and these animated features plus a bloody smiley face pin and a Doc Manhattan Pez Dispenser.<br>Then they'll put out another edition with all the cuts of the movie, all the supliments, plus ten more commentary tracks and some more extra features about the promotional art 'n stuff plus a little figurine of Rorschach.<br>Then they'll kidnap and drug Alan Moore and record his mumblings and tack it on as an actual commentary track and put it out again.<br>Then they'll repackage it with an inevitable DTV prequel movie Zach Snyder Presents Rorschach: Origins starring Scott Adkins.<br><br><br>and all this will happen before the complete Kill Bill DVD even passes initial planning stages.

  • March 10, 2009, 10:11 a.m. CST

    by PedroM

    I will Watchmen this week but with a reserved feeling. The feeling that the movie is a gorgeous one, but empty. You know whats that like.

  • March 10, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST


    by Judge_Dredd

    I think i'm with you there.

  • March 10, 2009, 10:12 a.m. CST

    Blue Dong Collector's Edition

    by redfist

    I am so there!!!!!!

  • March 10, 2009, 10:14 a.m. CST

    The Alan Moore "YOU SLOPPY CUNTS" Edition

    by redfist

    3 hours of him screamin <p> WHY!!!!!!!!!

  • March 10, 2009, 10:15 a.m. CST

    The Fox Studio Edition

    by redfist

    13.62% is due on the 13th of each month.

  • March 10, 2009, 10:17 a.m. CST

    The Lesbian Whore Edition

    by redfist

    Like its a bad thing?!?!

  • March 10, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    I've seen this DVD too

    by Fuck The Napkin

    It'll all be great content when the cartoon's cut into the movie and 'Under The Hood' is a bonus feature, but no way is it worth a separate DVD release.<br><br> Also, in Tales of the Black Freighter there's no "Raw shark" line. :(

  • March 10, 2009, 10:19 a.m. CST

    The "it literally brings that comic to life" Edition

    by redfist


  • March 10, 2009, 10:20 a.m. CST


    by batmarv

    You just reminded me! I must run out and buy some Dr M condoms... Anyway i can understand someone not thinking Watchmen was great, but do dismiss it as "hollow" or "shitty" just leads me to conclude you must have been watching it with your head up your ass..or Alan Moores ass! Cant wait for the black freighter stuff..but i will!..until its released as the total package

  • March 10, 2009, 10:26 a.m. CST

    "Closeup of Malin Ackerman's Vagina for 3 Hours" Edition

    by dr sauch

    Now THERE'S an investment with legs.

  • March 10, 2009, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Instead of separating the Freighter out

    by Monkey Butler

    or cutting it altogether, I would have extended Veidt's final scene with Manhattan, so that Veidt more fully describes his recurring nightmare. Just a few lines, No Country style, about being shipwrecked and knowing that he would have to do terrible things to save those that he loved, and that when he finally arrived home, the Freighter was there for him, not the people of his hometown. At the very least it would have worked better than the non-ending we were given in the film.

  • March 10, 2009, 10:38 a.m. CST

    and it absolutely riveted me.

    by reaganjn

    OHHH another Warner production huh?? How surprising it gets another positive review from Harold.

  • March 10, 2009, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Green Lantern preview?

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    Can someone describe what THAT is all about?

  • March 10, 2009, 10:47 a.m. CST


    by 1978CreepyThinMan


  • March 10, 2009, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Who is credited with Freighter's script?

    by Charlie Murphy

    Hayter and Tse, a direct adaptation or was it outsourced?

  • March 10, 2009, 11:13 a.m. CST


    by Judge_Dredd

    I wanted this film to be good, i really really did. It just really disappointing me.

  • March 10, 2009, 11:14 a.m. CST


    by Judge_Dredd


  • March 10, 2009, 11:29 a.m. CST

    no point to the black freighter

    by bacci40

    when they removed the island and the squid...there is no max shea<p> well, there is, but he isnt on the island, therefore, he is probably not writing tales. therefore this is all

  • March 10, 2009, 11:30 a.m. CST


    by TheBlackKnight

    Come on...

  • March 10, 2009, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Yeah, these should be cut into the film somehow.

    by FluffyUnbound

    Because then VOILA - the film becomes a pastiche of formats and styles in the way that the comic was. And another batch of haters goes down the tubes.

  • March 10, 2009, 11:38 a.m. CST


    by chiahead

    I dunno if I'd say there was no point to the black freighter just because there's no max shea. I may though, go so far as to say the thing about it that I loved in the book was how panel for panel it directly related (either literally or figuratively) to what was happening in the story proper. So, that said, taking it out of side by side comparison seems a little pointless. But even so, I'll probably still check it out if only to re edit the film in my head. I liked the movie for the most part. Thought Silk Spectre II and Oxymandias were in their own little movie (where high school melodrama and inconsistent accents are all the rage) but whatever.

  • March 10, 2009, 11:48 a.m. CST


    by IAmMrMonkey!

    Um... what? Was the last part of your post related to mine or was it about something else completely? I don't remember using the words "hollow" OR "shitty"?<p>I was actually indifferent to the movie. I neither hated it nor loved it. It was 'okay'.

  • March 10, 2009, 12:18 p.m. CST



    Is there such a thing as being too loyal to source material? I would have preferred less blue swinging dick and more time with Rorshach and his therapist. The movie was not bad, great when Rorshach was involved, but only o.k when the rest of the story was being told. Kinda like The Dark Knight-the movie was only ok when the Joker was'nt on the screen. Jackie Earl Haley was the best paper to film character I have seen in a long time. WAY TOO MUCH ACURACY ON THE BLUE DICK, after 300, maybe Zach's wife is a beard?

  • March 10, 2009, 1:25 p.m. CST

    "Madness? THIS...IS...THE BLACK FREIGHTER!!!"

    by MrMysteryGuest

  • March 10, 2009, 1:38 p.m. CST

    getting the word" litterally" wrong is

    by FleshMachine

    as wrong as you can us a word. it's the exact opposite of what you mean to say. (which is "metaphorically" or "figuratively")...find the David Cross' bit on his friend telling him he laughed so hard he "literally" shit his pants.

  • March 10, 2009, 1:39 p.m. CST

    typos aside...

    by FleshMachine

    ...that is.

  • March 10, 2009, 2:33 p.m. CST

    two best reasons why dark knight is better than watchmen film

    by phoenixmagida5th

    1. Subtle use of cgi but heavy on practical effects and stunts and shot in a real city. 2. No fucking gimicky slow motion every ten seconds. Also a third reason, believeable fight scenes

  • March 10, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST

    also can any of you hardcore fans of watchmen film

    by phoenixmagida5th

    Explain to me how in the verison released how comedian found out about ozy's plan. Its never explained and makes no sense and is a major plot hole

  • March 10, 2009, 2:37 p.m. CST

    also can any of you hardcore fans of watchmen film

    by phoenixmagida5th

    Explain to me how in the verison released how comedian found out about ozy's plan. Its never explained and makes no sense and is a major plot hole

  • March 10, 2009, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Re: Green Lantern preview

    by teethgnasher


  • March 10, 2009, 2:55 p.m. CST

    Pre-order CANCELLED!

    by REVENGE_of_FETT

    21 fricken minutes? THAT'S IT? I figured it would be about that long for the stuff from the comic but I thought they fleshed it out to at least an hour! We know we're getting Black Freighter in the extended blu-ray already and I'm sure Under the Hood will be in that set as well so I see no need to fork out $25 for material I'm getting later on anyway.

  • March 10, 2009, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Am I the only one who though Ackerman was great as Laurie?

    by dr sauch

    I mean, lets face it, Laurie is not a complex character in the novel. She's essentially a really hot chick with some latent daddy issues. Not exactly a paradigm-shifting female portrayal. Malin Ackerman fit the bill perfectly, she was: 1: Super hot 2: Super hot 3: Good at acting like she wasn't aware that Dreiberg was attracted to her. That's pretty much all it took, and she nailed it. This movie is a phenomenal accompaniment to the novel.

  • March 10, 2009, 3:17 p.m. CST

    I'm Gonna Say It

    by enderandrew

    The movie ending was BETTER. Better you hear me! The average audience wasn't going to sit through a 5 hour movie if they weren't familiar with the book, and including the squid meant including Tales of the Freighter. Inluding the squid meant cutting so much more. And you know what, the squid is pretty silly. It would have looked weird on film.<p>More importantly, using Dr. Manhattan makes more sense in the story. It is an improvement on Moore's original work. The moment you start thinking that one man's work can not be improved by anyone else, you get shitty auteur theory films where no one questions the director (note the Star Wars prequels). Given that Snyder didn't have huge clout, and given that he made the film in Hollywood, I think you just got by far the best adaptation of The Watchmen you are ever going to get. Stop your fucking bitching and be grateful that we didn't get another Schumacker debacle. And as much a I love TDK, Nolan put a very distinct imprint on his Bat-verse, diverging from the comics. The Watchmen is probably the single best comic adaptation you'll ever see. The only other candidate that exists today would be Frank Miller helping out on Sin City. And we saw how well he handled The Spirit.

  • March 10, 2009, 3:19 p.m. CST


    by enderandrew

    Ozy said it clearly in the film. The US government was paying the Comedian to keep tabs on everyone else. Comedian was spying on Ozy, and put the pieces together. That is why he broke down and visited Morlock, crying about bad shit.

  • March 10, 2009, 3:24 p.m. CST


    by enderandrew

    She was neither great nor terrible. I will say that I thought she was pretty unattractive in 27 Dresses, and she looked considerably better with dark hair and skin-tight outfits. Sad but true, I'd rather stare at that ass of hers rather than her face.

  • March 10, 2009, 4:24 p.m. CST

    I look forward to it

    by Biffs_Pleasure_Paradise

    The torrent that is.

  • March 10, 2009, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Watchmen Babies

    by HewligansHaircut

    I'm still waiting for the DVD of "Watchmen Babies - V for Vacation"... It's bound to be coming sooner or later.... (If you don't know what i'm talking about, and most of you will... one of the best Simpsons cameos of the mad Northampton wizard Moore having a rant at Hollywood - it's very very funny, and you've got to give Mr Moore credo for doing it).... (and a big pay cheque!!) :)

  • March 10, 2009, 7:20 p.m. CST

    The Ending

    by Dancingforever

    There has been endless debate over Snyder's sad change to then end of the film, was it good or bad? To me, the only real criticism I have of the change is that the substitute was so completely underwhelming and other vital parts of the story were lost. Where was the conversation between Doc and Veidt where Jon tells him nothing ever ends? Did Snyder not see the perfect paradox between Doc meditating on Mars and Veidt meditating at the end of the story where to very different things were going on? I won't go into it but food for thought. The second Leonard Cohen starts singing hallelujah the film hits a wall of absurdity that it never recovers from. I went in expecting to hate the entire thing and was blown away at how perfect it was up until that point. After the sex scene you have the ridiculous jail break, bad and obvious music choices, and the final act playing out in a way that was unsatisfying and sloppy. To think the final conversation takes place not with Jon and Veidt, but instead Laurie and her Mom? WTF?? To many generalizations are being made that if you didn't like the film it's because the end was changed, I testify the reason I didn't like it was because the entire final act was a mess that ruins all the brilliance that came before it..

  • March 11, 2009, 12:58 a.m. CST


    by MattmanReturns

    I agree. The movie's ending was tighter and made more sense. Although the devastation wasn't as powerful, I never cared for the squid. Blaming Dr. Manhattan just works perfectly for me... because he's a real threat that people were already familiar with. After his "LEAVE ME ALONE!!!" blowup it almost seemed like Moore setup a conclusion that never followed through.

  • March 11, 2009, 1:02 a.m. CST

    And Rorshach's final scene was much better on film

    by MattmanReturns

    Far more powerful. It happened too fast in the book.

  • March 11, 2009, 4:27 a.m. CST

    Stop bitching and listen to what Gerard Butler has to say...

    by alucardvsdracula

    With all the arguments for and against Watchmen, here's a message from Gerard Butler the link:

  • March 11, 2009, 5:10 a.m. CST

    I agree with IamMrMonkey!

    by Potatino

    Save your money in these harsh economic times! All you honestly need is the book. Everything else, even the Special Super-Duper Hyper Mega Ultimate Edition is marketing/PR superfluous crapola!

  • March 11, 2009, 5:17 a.m. CST

    I think the fact that they left out tales of the black freighter

    by Potatino

    is the reason they had to change the ending. Wasn't the point of the kid reading the over the top comic book kind of showing how reality was becoming more fantasy like ultimately kind of climaxed by the fantasy-like ending with the squid. So no comic book reading kid equals no build up to giant squid. Anyway just what I've been thinking about regarding the movie and how in some ways it doesn't feel right to me.

  • March 11, 2009, 7:19 a.m. CST

    I have to admit...

    by Sithtastic

    I can understand as to why Alan Moore won't have anything to do with Hollywood, when witnessing the steady churn out of products like this. It's not that I wouldn't like the Black Freighter or any of the other content. I'll just be left to wonder why it wasn't in the film.

  • March 11, 2009, 10:32 a.m. CST


    by enderandrew

    The movie is 2 hours and 40 minutes, and people are complaining that scenes weren't included. And you want to add the entire Black Freighter bits as well? Not only would the film be over 3 hours, but a lot of that is fairly slow moving. The first hour of the movie is a damn near perfect adaptation of the comic books, but that hour moves really slowly as it is very heavy on the exposition. Adding another 30 minutes to the movie wasn't going to happen.

  • March 11, 2009, 3 p.m. CST

    Tempting, but...

    by JT Kirk

    The pricepoint is so high for an hour of DVD. $20, $5 more for blu-ray. And we're given virtually nothing to go on but a few comments like Harry's, and our fandom for the source material. I'm impressed by WB continuing to support big-ticket movies with side products like AniMatrix, Gotham Knight, and now this. But it always feels like they hold back just a little, make the limited audience pick up the slack in both the faith and the wallet departments. It makes Netflix a far more tempting way to deal with it. <p>To be honest, it seems like the side-marketing stuff like this, and the viral videos, are delivering a far richer environment than the actual films (that includes TDK), and that's a shame because that flavor SHOULD be in the main films as well. Perhaps the director or editor needs to make room for these sorts of things better, because then they get the production quality they deserve and recognition by a larger audience. Lucas tried to go this route with Episode 2, and all it did was prove how hollow the movie itself was since the flavor was left on the website.

  • March 12, 2009, 2:07 a.m. CST


    by boogy110

    "fucking Loves" everything. Why give's a shit about the Black Freighter.

  • March 21, 2009, 11:24 a.m. CST

    Nice for DVD Extras

    by MattDomville

    ...But ridiculous to charge as an independent DVD. I saw a screening on Thursday, and nobody in the audience really seemed to dig it. "Freighter" is a pretty faithful adaptation, but the "Under the Hood" bit is pretty bland.

  • March 24, 2009, 6:13 p.m. CST

    No more R-rated movies...

    by Chuck_Cobra David Hayter was right

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