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Hercules Assails ABC’s New Nathan Fillion Dramedy CASTLE!!

Published at:  Mar 09, 2009 2:12:48 AM CDT

I am – Hercules!!


The latest chunk of unfunny dramedy awfulness from ABC, “Castle” stars Nathan Fillion (“Slither,” “Desperate Housewives”) as a bestselling crime thriller novelist who starts (with he blessing of his fan and friend, the mayor of New York) hanging around a hot NYPD detective to help himself get over writer’s block. Screenwriter Andrew Marlowe (“Air Force One,” “Hollow Man”) is the show’s creator.

A predictable yawn-fest of a poor “Moonlighting” knockoff. “Castle” is no less riddled with clichés than “Grey’s Anatomy,” “Private Practice,” “Brothers & Sisters,” “Desperate Housewives” or “Ugly Betty.” Richard Castle is the kind of bore who thinks he made up this gag: “It’s not what you think. Okay, it’s exactly what you think.” He’s got a conservative teen daughter and a horny old mom. He’s irrepressible while the cop he’s shadowing is a scold. It’s all just too tired and mind-dulling.

While one hates to root for series to fail, let’s hope “CSI Miami” and “Medium” overrun “Castle” quickly so Fillion can move on to projects more worthy of him.

Entertainment Weekly says:

Nathan Fillion’s copious charm curdles in this cutesy series … “Castle” is just an implausible muddle.


The Los Angeles Times says:

… The problem is that in the pilot and an early episode, the crimes are nowhere as compelling as the characters. For a show like "Castle" that dares to launch a more classic version into an already saturated and tarted-up market, the murders have to be as complicated and compelling as the push-me-pull-you glances between the main characters, and so far, they just aren't.


The Chicago Tribune says:

… Nathan Fillion (“Desperate Housewives,” “Firefly”) is by far the best thing about “Castle,” ABC’s latest attempt to launch a procedural franchise. As mystery novelist Richard Castle, he brings frisky energy to the show, which almost makes up for the lack of chemistry between him and his co-star, Stana Katic, who plays detective Kate Beckett. Little about “Castle’s” lead characters will surprise you. … competent but mostly unexceptional …


The Washington Post says:

"Wildly famous mystery novelist Richard Castle (Nathan Fillion) is bored with his own success," says ABC publicity for the new crime series "Castle." Bored with his success? Poor bay-beee. As it happens, he won't be the only one. Viewers who stumble into this misbegotten "Moonlighting" imitation will likely be bored, too, but not because of too much success. …



The San Francisco Chronicle says:

… The trouble with "Castle" is that it's just so completely fluffy - which is annoying. True, not everybody wants to watch a gritty cop series as they unwind in front of the television. But to think that Castle's theories about killers and crime and personal behavior would hold New York detectives in rapture is ludicrous. Nor would he be allowed to follow along so closely - and invariably involve himself in the capture of said killers. Everything in "Castle" happens conveniently and with rote dialogue. Yes, "The Wire" and "The Shield" have made the common cop show pointless, and "Castle" is the antidote to their respective bleakness, but who knew that after the cops-and-detectives trope played out at such heights, the industry would circle back to "Murder, She Wrote" levels?


The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says:

There's nothing in ABC's "Castle" viewers haven't seen a million times before, but the cast elevates the pedestrian material. … It's a tired premise but if the writers can give Beckett more personality -- and if Katic can imbue the role with more dimensions -- "Castle" might be a palatable program …


The Boston Globe says:

… With "Moonlighting" and "Murder, She Wrote" as the dominant influences, "Castle" is predisposed to be formulaic and stale. The show tries to get by on charm, hoping that we'll enjoy Fillion as a bad boy enough to overlook the half-baked plots and thin characters. …


USA Today says:

… None of the episodes is likely to keep you up at night puzzling out the intricacies of the mystery, but they won't bore you or insult your intelligence. Castle exists to exploit the appeal of its stars and the amusing byplay between their characters, and it does that with admirable efficiency. Whether that's good enough is ultimately up to you.


Variety says:

… has a breezy ease but, as a whole, feels a tad underfurnished. …


The Hollywood Reporter says:

… What stifles "Castle" is its separation from the way real people speak and behave, its rat-a-tat dialogue more cartoon-y than enchanting. It's tough to build much of an affinity for characters who are so madly in love with the sound of their own voice as Castle or as self-consciously controlled as Detective Beckett. The primary selling point for the series is the magnetism of Fillion, who knows how to carry off the masculine allure thing big time. But again, you feel the sense while watching the show that you're being conned rather than entertained, and that's hardly the stuff of which appointment viewing is made. …


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    Readers Talkback

  • Mar 09, 2009 2:13:41 AM CDT

    I get a first on a Nathan Fillion talkback?

    by paragoncomplex

    Probably not. It is good to see him on TV again. I hope this series lasts.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 2:16:22 AM CDT

    What's the record for most one-season-then-cancelled shows?

    by monkeybrains

    O'l Nathans got to be in the running.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 2:16:44 AM CDT

    Sounds like a lame version of Bones

    by darth bob

    but without a hot, faux-nerdy Deschanel sister to make it even remotely interesting.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 2:18:05 AM CDT

    Sometimes I really miss Firefly

    by iammrmonkey!

    And, watching this - judging from the reviews above - is going to make me miss it even more.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 2:19:34 AM CDT

    Bones Part II

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Mar 09, 2009 2:26:58 AM CDT

    Checkmate Mother fucker!

    by mr_x

    is all i could come up with.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 2:31:25 AM CDT

    A massive hit.

    by totalfreedom

    Mark my words, this show is going to be a big ass hit regardless of if it sucks or not.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 2:42:26 AM CDT

    Who cares?

    by the mcpoyle clan

    I ain't gonna make it to Paleyfest, so ABC needs to burn off the Daisies left in the can.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 4:47:43 AM CDT

    no subject

    by lsleelee

    Wow it has a Whedon alum in it and Herc doesn't like it. This must be the worst show in the history of shows.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 5:58:54 AM CDT

    Herc more than one person?

    by snowpuff

    Sometimes your writing style changes. Makes me think you have someone ghost you sometimes? Sharing the name with a partner?

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  • Mar 09, 2009 6:11:55 AM CDT

    This will probably be a breakout hit

    by soylentmean

    I mean people still watch American Idol in droves, feeding at that trough every week (and multiple times to boot). Apparently the "average American" doesn't want to actually think while watching television.

    Oh, New World Order, you've already won.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 8:19:58 AM CDT

    I absolutely adore Nathan, but

    by shut the fuck up donny

    unfortunately he's starting to make Ted McGinley look like a fucking ratings goldmine.

    Maybe Fillion should be the patron saint of "not even getting the bike off the ramp."

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  • Mar 09, 2009 8:40:34 AM CDT

    Not even the previews could hide

    by superfleish76

    how unfunny this show will be. I agree, I like Nathan Fillion a lot, and want him to finally get a break-out role, but this one isn't going to be it. The lack of chemistry with his co-star, noted in one of the reviews above, is even evident in the commercials! Make Nathan Hal Jordan in the Green Lantern movie, and save him from bad series and cancellations!

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  • Mar 09, 2009 8:55:07 AM CDT

    Fillion was a better fit for Cupid

    by darth_nader

    Even though we haven't seen the new cast yet, I think Fillion would have been a perfect fit.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 9:07:43 AM CDT

    ABC...the Vagina Network

    by jor-el23

    Other than Lost, ABC is a network of the vagina, for the vagina and by the vagina. It's all shitty chick shows, whether they be maudlin dramas like Greys or "sexy" soaps like Dirty Sexy Money, or just Sex and the City ripoffs. Even Lost sometimes veers too closely into the romantic drama territory

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  • Mar 09, 2009 9:07:46 AM CDT

    Nathan Fillion

    by toby_fn_wong

    is the bomb. Apart from Desperate Housewives I will watch anything he appears in. This guy deserves a big break.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 9:13:11 AM CDT

    Damn damn damn

    by skimn

    I thought that Fillion's work last season on Desperate Housewives showed that he is NOT a series killer. And I could see how tempting it would be to fashion a series that would center around his rougish charm. Too bad this doesn't look to be it.And Herc, you did the same for Mad Men. Could you please start a talkback for Breaking Bad? The second season started last night, just as strong as last.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 9:21:53 AM CDT

    Whedon

    by the funketeer

    Funny how when Herc DOESN'T like the show he downplays the Whedon connections.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 9:38:25 AM CDT

    It's not hopeless

    by tralalah

    Hey, remember George Clooney and how many failed series he had? Fillion is a way better actor and way hotter his break is just around the corner. Right?

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  • Mar 09, 2009 10:05:52 AM CDT

    The show has potential...

    by yodaismyhomie

    and maybe just needs a few episodes to get going properly. I will give it a shot because I like Fillion's work (mostly).

    As for it being a 'moonlighting' ripoff...well that show was on when I was a little kid and I never saw it...so that won't bother me.

    Whoever said it sounds like Bones, where do you get that from? Bones is loosely based on books that are loosely based on true cases. But the character of Bones is not going around with the FBI agent to get story ideas or anything...she is there because of her job. Usually she goes along to analyze something and, while there, ends up helping solve the case/catch the bad guy.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 10:35:31 AM CDT

    You know what this show needs? Robots!

    by mrmysteryguest

  • Mar 09, 2009 10:40:43 AM CDT

    I thought this show was called "Assh*le."

    by christopher3

    No wonder I couldn't find it in the TV Guide.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 10:43:23 AM CDT

    He is Bill Pardy!

    by derlanghaarige

    Although there is technically nothing wrong with being "just" a fan-favourite, I hope Nathan Fillion will seriously break into mainstream fame soon. I liked him since he became "that new castmember" in 'Two Guys, A Girl And A Pizza Place' (Not sure if the pizza place was already gone back then.).

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  • Mar 09, 2009 10:45:23 AM CDT

    Gorram it, I really miss Firefly

    by fanboy71

    I will watch this because Fillion is the shit, but if it sucks, I will just die a little inside and go back to looking for Genie lamps on the beach. It seems that's the only way to get Firefly season 2 up and running. You'd think with that horrible shit Joss is putting out on FOX that he'd be more open to going back to Firefly. Non of the actors are doing anything they couldn't get out of. Alan Tudyk is doing a fucking commercial for god's sake. Not that Wash could be in season 2 anyway I guess. Gorram Frakkin piece a goosa.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 11:06:53 AM CDT

    Watch the Slither DVD special features

    by skimn

    And all the "I am Bill Pardy" hilarity. No really, it is funny.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 11:22:07 AM CDT

    Sorry Nate

    by blackguard

    Sounds a lot like Bones only reversed. I don't see it lasting very long since Fillion doesn't have the best track record. Remember Drive?

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  • Mar 09, 2009 11:22:23 AM CDT

    Herc is not a real person

    by angelopoulos

    I think it's a pen name used by someone like Quint or even Harry

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  • Mar 09, 2009 12:20:52 PM CDT

    Stana Katic? Kana Static?

    by wyatt wingfoot

    Anna Septik? Gee, this is fun. Firefly dude and ESL(English as a Slavic Language) NY coppette. Ack.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 12:35:39 PM CDT

    Herc: sorry, Desperate Housewives is good

    by necgray

    I don't for the life of me understand your hatred of the show. I usually let that kind of subjective opinion go with you, but the DH hate mystifies me.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 12:40:08 PM CDT

    Jor-El: that's because women watch TV drama

    by necgray

    And if you weren't so busy being a sexist douche, you'd have time to read that research. Women watch episodic drama more often than men. Advertisers like to appeal to the male 18-35 demo, but that's not who watches the shows. Also, you'll be interested to know that the CW ACTUALLY intends to shift its focus to become a female-centered network. So if you wanna throw around "vagina network", use it there.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 12:42:24 PM CDT

    Firefly Season 2?

    by the funketeer

    Really? You're actually holding out hope that it could happen? EVERYONE has moved on from that show. Christ, Inara was just cast in the V remake. No one watched it the first time around. Why would they try to put it on the air again? It was a great show but it's done. Move on. More importantly, let the cast move on.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 1:10:58 PM CDT

    well, I'm disappointed

    by oisin5199

    I was hoping Fillion would find a good niche, like Boreanaz did with Bones. I only watched Bones in the beginning for an Angel fix, but I stuck with it, because it was consistently entertaining with good cast chemistry. Not an amazing show, but a good one. I'm going to try this out for Capt. Tightpants, but he wasn't enough to get me to watch Desperate Housewives, so he might not be enough to keep me here if the show sucks.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 1:12:15 PM CDT

    Funketeer

    by optimus122

    The dvd has sold millions and millions of copies , Firefly has 100 times as many fans now then it did when it was on the air. The movie is way in the black now as well with 3 different releases which all sold huge numbers..of course I do agree that its pointless to talk about another season..I could easily see a sci fi special or straight to dvd movie like Dead Like Me just had.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 1:22:29 PM CDT

    Ugh

    by zb.brox

    optimus122--Please don't mention that fuckin' Dead Like Me movie. What a shame that sucked so bad.

    As to this: Isn't it sad that lack all of those reviews basically come down to "Fillion's great; the show sucks"? This is a guy who desperately needs some good material, 'cause he should be a household name.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 1:34:02 PM CDT

    Jor-El: ABC Targets Women

    by killertv

    The head of ABC who has been saying the network targets older women for years. RE: Necgray's comment, CW has said they will target younger women, so I guess for Jor-El there's an "old vagina" and a "young vagina" network.

    Nonetheless, I think my mom may like CASTLE. And that's who they made this show for.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 1:59:50 PM CDT

    Fillion for Hal Jordan.

    by fanboy71

    because i doubt this turd will last long.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 3:52:04 PM CDT

    Hate to wish Mal bad

    by melvin_pelvis


    But I also hope this bombs quickly so Nathan Fillion can find a worthy role
    hmm, I wonder if the Stargate: Voyager folks approached him.
    If it was good enough for Angus "Mac" MacGyver it's good enough for Malcolm "Mal" Reynolds

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  • Mar 09, 2009 4:44:07 PM CDT

    Nathan gotta eat, I suppose.

    by fiester

    But he deserves better than this tepid detective rehash.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 4:56:32 PM CDT

    I mean, watch the March 8 Housewives

    by necgray

    Brilliant writing. Anybody who rags on that show has no concept of quality TV writing. Seriously, let go of your penis for half a second, it'll still be there when you're done watching the show.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 5:11:22 PM CDT

    I Like Fillion, but...

    by tinkertiw

    HATE, HATE, HATE this series just from the promos.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 6:23:17 PM CDT

    NO "FIREFLY" NAMECHECK BECAUSE THIS SUCKS?

    by mullah omar

    You call out SLITHER and DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES for Fillion but not his signature FIREFLY?


    I guess you don't want the stink of THE CASTLE to get on one of your Whedon favorites.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 6:53:42 PM CDT

    Show has just been renamed "Smarmy White People"

    by lockesbrokenleg

  • Mar 09, 2009 8:00:30 PM CDT

    Drive

    by holy hell

    was fun! Castle already smells dated, and could possibly launch a sister channel to the Armed Forces Network - one that's piped exclusively into nursing homes (the ones roiling with VD). It could lead into the Merv Griffin vapid quiz show of the day. Sad.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 8:01:58 PM CDT

    and I think

    by holy hell

    Herc's real.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 8:19:45 PM CDT

    Drive was shit

    by lockesbrokenleg

    One or two likeable characters. The rest fuck up shitheads.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 9:12:39 PM CDT

    Dammit, the man is cursed!!!

    by drath

    He's either in good stuff that gets cancelled or crap (that sometimes gets cancelled too). Shit. BTW, what the fuck is ABC Family cancelling KYLE XY for? They already have my unending hate for cancelling Middleman, but now I think they're just saying "fuck you" to anyone who likes even a little sci-fi.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 9:19:47 PM CDT

    ABC Family = cable version of CW

    by mr spork

    focusing on the female demographic and driving away other viewers

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  • Mar 09, 2009 9:21:29 PM CDT

    Dammit I want Journeyman!

    by anino

    I know, it's a losing battle. Castle will get cancelled, it's only a matter of whether or not they air the entire season.The Castle promos were the worse part of watching Lost. A writer that's bored with his own success that uses cutesy one-liners? (gag!). It would have been better if Castle had tourettes, and if the hot cop was a closet nympho. Who wouldn't watch that?

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  • Mar 09, 2009 9:23:57 PM CDT

    I meant 'worst'

    by anino

    not 'worse part of watching Lost'. I'm sorry grammar police, it won't happen again.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 10:02:53 PM CDT

    Stana Katic

    by mr. nice gaius

    Say what you will about the quality of the show and its potential future, but that Stana Katic chick is DELICIOUS. Damn, that is one sexy broad.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 10:04:19 PM CDT

    Could be a success

    by adelai niska

    Why compare it to The Wire when clearly it's going for the audience that watches NCIS?

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  • Mar 09, 2009 10:11:05 PM CDT

    The Unusuals

    by thefluxcapacitor

    "Castle" wasn't bad. It's got charm. I have a feeling "The Unusuals" is the show to watch, however.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 10:19:11 PM CDT

    I actually liked it

    by jflow78

    ....but after reading your review I didn't expect much.

    And the fact that most critics agree with you actually makes me like you less.

    Nothing personal....I'm just sayin'.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 10:25:36 PM CDT

    The Mrs and I enjoyed it.

    by fanboy71

    We'll be back next week.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 10:26:22 PM CDT

    But, Fillion is getting chunky

    by fanboy71

    Hit the gym tubby. We can't have you getting too fat to play Hal Jordan.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 10:26:50 PM CDT

    Adelai Niska

    by mr spork

    Are you disparaging NCIS?

    If you are, I have disagree. It's a good show.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 10:31:06 PM CDT

    typo correction

    by mr spork

    I have to disagree.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 10:51:50 PM CDT

    It wasn't that bad

    by cherryvalance

    and he looked nice. Most TV shows are unwatchable but I managed to make it through this one.

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  • Mar 09, 2009 11:14:32 PM CDT

    COP DRAMA!

    by series7

    Nathan Fillion gotta eat.

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  • Mar 10, 2009 12:13:12 AM CDT

    Get the sticks out of yer asses!

    by ka dargo

    We don't need another freakin LAw and Order type show with rapes and no laughs. I would rather have some humor instead of all the super serious stuff. It was better then most of the crap out there. Fillion can do comedy as we know from Firefly. And that Stana chick is freakin sexy as hell.

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  • Mar 10, 2009 2:15:40 AM CDT

    It wasn't bad

    by lockesbrokenleg

    Typical buddy cop funny mystery stuff. Not bad. It's nice to watch a show that's not being kissed ass by the press a lot, or a show where you need a checklist for every episode.

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  • Mar 10, 2009 4:09:15 AM CDT

    it's a lot better`

    by evil dead 3d

    than any of us were led to imagine.

    liked it fine, it easily could survive and improve.

    it's old fashoined, but what the fuck, and the daughter character is a nice touch too.

    maybe mommy will stop being such an annoying trollop, but not so bad...

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  • Mar 10, 2009 7:27:11 AM CDT

    LOOKS SHIT

    by turketron

    that is all

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  • Mar 10, 2009 8:48:21 AM CDT

    I enjoyed it

    by russman

    This isn't meant to be NYPD BLUE, it's just a light detective show. I enjoyed the pilot for the sake of entertainment and yes there were some funny lines. It's cool to see Nathan back at work and I hope there will be enough people (women) out there to keep him employed.

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  • Mar 10, 2009 1:31:21 PM CDT

    Stana Katic was the rookie cop in The Spirit

    by big jim

    I knew I knew her from somewhere.

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  • Mar 10, 2009 5:46:37 PM CDT

    Just Because....

    by karuma

    ..it's not a fanboy gulper like Buffy or Firefly doesn't mean the show doesn't merit a second or third look. True, these are characters we have seen before and plots we have seen, but....are there any characters or plots we haven't seen before? Critics have a fine line to walk. On one hand, they must refuse to pretend to like anything that doesn't have "meaning". They must rail on and on infinitum about how they are outraged by poor quality and ineffective plot and writing just to maintain there credibility. But, hey, guess what? This is a filler show, people, premiered in the middle of March to see if it flies. There have been worse and there will be better, but for now, this is not too bad, capturing the flavor of Moonlighting with a little Remington Steele and Bones thrown in. It will do, and if the writing doesn't get better, so what? I could stand a few weeks of just watching and not having to think too much.

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  • Mar 10, 2009 7:15:46 PM CDT

    Mr Spock

    by adelai niska

    not at all, just got the same vibe off of castle

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  • Mar 10, 2009 11:17:19 PM CDT

    The material isn't worthy

    by moonshiney

    of the greatness that is Nathan Fillian - it was predictable and pedestrian. However, Mal can live on by participating in NASA's contest to name the new International Space Station’s Node 3. One of the names in the running is Serenity. Given that the name of Node 1 is Unity and Node 2 is Harmony, Serenity seems a natural choice. Voting ends on March 20th!

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  • Mar 11, 2009 12:34:50 AM CDT

    Fillion isn't nearly as cute...

    by annoyyou

    ...as he thinks he is. This series is weak in the extreme, and his co-star is totally generic. This smells like awful "Journeyman"-type casting to me. I don't give a rat's ass about either of these people.

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  • Mar 11, 2009 12:47:30 AM CDT

    Oh, and...

    by annoyyou

    ...yeah - Fillion is a proven show-killer on par with the likes of Paula Marshall, Sarah Paulson, Claire Danes, Matthew Perry and (mercifully!) Dane Cook.

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  • Mar 11, 2009 10:26:12 AM CDT

    There were so many 20 yr old models at book signing

    by kabong

    that it looked like the beginning of every "CSI Miami" ep where fashion models on jet skis get murdered.

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