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Update on that THE MARK movie
Yo Folko, How the heck awww ya. We's been a having fun here at geek headquaters... what with the wimmens and the dudies and bar-b-que and da mobies. I ain't not drunk or nuttin. Just 'orny... Dang teases all night long. Damn that Joad. Here's the latest on THE MARK... something having nothing whatsoever to do with my intro... but ya know what... That's why I get paid in wooden nickels.
Thought you'd like to hear what's going on with "The Mark" (though with the
singularly untalented Rob Leifeld behind this project, I don't have much
hope...) This piece comes from The Comic Continuum.
CLICK HERE TO READ THE ORIGINAL THINGAMAGIG!!!
LIEFELD ON THE MARK
Following an unsuccessful rewrite of his original screenplay, Awesome
Entertainment's Rob Liefeld said he remains hopeful that The Mark movie --
with Will Smith attached at Universal Pictures - will still happen.
"I eat, sleep, drink The Mark," Liefeld said. "That's all I think about
everyday.
"I'm completely in the process. There's a possibility I may do another
draft of it, but if we can find a really great writer who can deliver it
fast, we will. The studio wants to do it. They've spent a lot of money on
this project.
"Will is not making a movie right now. Will has not made a movie since
he finished shooting Wild Wild West, and that was November of last year.
He's been waiting to make another movie and he really wants to make The
Mark."
Glen Morgan and James Wong were hired to rewrite Liefeld's original
screenplay for The Mark, having worked on the TV series Millennium.
"I was not allowed to read it because I was told, 'Rob, we'd rather
you'd not read it,'" Liefeld said. "They did two drafts and (the producers)
said, 'We are really disappointed. We are moving on. We are not working with
them any more.
"And they called me up and said, 'We'd like to return to your original
vision because the script went off the beaten path.'"
Liefeld said the thrust of the movie has been readjusted following the
release of last spring's The Matrix.
"I was there at The Matrix premiere, sitting in front of Will, and we
watched The Matrix," Liefeld said. "And, I kid you not, there are probably
125 of the same scenes (as The Mark). And I sat there and my heart just
sank.
"I had a meeting with Will has his partner a week later - we had all
seen The Matrix - and they had kind of beat us to our movie. They did a
great job; we could never outdo that movie."
So, Liefeld has re-tinkered the concept.
"The story is that there have been bearers of The Mark throughout the
history of time," he said. "It's been underground for quite some time, and
it's resurfaces at this particular time as the forces of good and evil are
about to do battle.
"The original script that I wrote, the opening 20 pages or 20 minutes,
took place during World War II. Will and his partner called me and said,
'Rob, we like the World War II stuff so much,' because Hitler is looking for
The Mark. If he can get it, he will dominate mankind; that's kind of the
opening of the movie.
"You see the guys that escape with it. There's a group called The
Disciples that have always protected it. Christ had The Mark, King Arthur
had The Mark and it's been passed on throughout time.
"The movie is now all set in World War II, and that's what we're working
on right now."
Liefeld said The Mark will have an Indiana Jones influence.
"Think of if Indiana Jones went into a cave and found an artifact - this
isn't in the movie - and it gave him incredible powers he didn't want, that
actually screw up his life. Everybody starts hunting him and trying to kill
him.
"And he's like, 'I just want to give it back.' But he can't give it
back. Because if he gives it back, it kills him."
Despite the typical Hollywood struggles, Liefeld said he remains
optimistic about The Mark, even envisioning a trilogy.
"It's completely different than what it was, but actually it's better,"
he said.
Cheers.
Inviz
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I'm probley first... Or not. Just thought you would like to know of that.
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Is it just me, or does the premise of this movie just remind you of the premise of Tales From the Crypt: Demon Knight? Not from the demon standpoint, but from the whole aspect of the "chosen one," who had "the mark," on their palm?
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Yup, it sounds very much like the Tales from the Crypt: Demon Knight.
Pretty good film I thought - nice idea.
And in there were flashbacks to the death of Christ, and WW1.
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I'm not surprised that this newer concept is lifted from somewhere else. Liefeld's original idea was stolen from a short-lived Marvel Comic from the '80's called Star Brand. It was written by Jim Shooter, drawn by John Romita, Jr., and was what I thought was the only good title from the long-defunct New Universe line. This is the latest in a long line of swipes from Mr. Liefeld.
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The only thing that had me gripped about this one was the involvement of the brilliant team of Glen Morgan and James Wong (if you didn't know they wrote some of the best episodes of the X-Files, shame on you). If the people in charge of this movie decided that their scripts were bad...well...I can't say I have a lot of faith in them. I can't find "Rob Liefield" in the IMDB, what's he done?
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For those unawares, Rob Liefeld was an inexplicably popular comic artist in the early 90s, his style came from swiping poses drawn by other artists, interpreted in a poorly rendered style. Like Vanilla Ice, he lifted heavily from his influences, lost his fan base, and is attempting a comeback. Don't expect anything out of The Mark. It'll suck, and will be a total rip-off.
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This is totally the concept from the Marvel comic STAR BRAND (which is a much better concept than this drek). Anything with Will (the Fresh Prince of Non Funny One Liners) Smith attached gets my immediate disapproval. I can hardly wait for that THE MARK RAP. I'm sure we're about a year away from hearing the Ali Rap.
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......KILL WILL SMITH PLEASE!!!!
Anything this guy touches is an automatic piece of crap! Having him involved with your project can only fuck it up! -
Vile enter key! Yeah Rob's the shittiest of the shitty Image artists and (laugh) writers. My wish is that he'll rip off enough ideas to get sued AGAIN (tee hee). How does the dipshit have any money left after all the lawsuits he's been subjected to?
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If Rob"can't draw a card" Leifeld got a movie deal, where the hell is John Byrne, Walt Simonson, Chris Claremont, Jim Starlin, & all the other guys from the old Marvel days that wrote all those great stories?! Get out there and start pitching some ideas guys!
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Just for your information, the only reason why Rob Liefeld was able to get this movie on is the fact that Demmerich made it happen. Now that I think about, they are a perfect team: who else could rip-off ideas better than them. I can't imagine what Demmerich and Liefeld have in store for us.
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damn this....rip offs are a dime a dozen..or at least ideas that are somewhat on the same basis....first thing i thought of was demon knight.as well as a few other posters did on this site....why not move forward with gaiman's sand man and miller/geoff [sic?] hard boiled.....those are 2 comic projects that would do better in a mainstream light than this...we dont need another so called "image" let down....remember spawn?.(dont get me wrong-i love spawn-and todd mcfarlane---but the movie was horrid--pray for a better sequel..even though it is highly unlikely-to be better)....well...time tells all. guess we can only wait ...........>>>WINKIE<<<
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Frank Miller has been approached many times for "Sin City", but will never turn any of them into a film. He has said this on numerous occasions - Why? His experience with Hollywood is such that he knows they wil not do the books justice, whether he is signed on as writer, or not. I don't remember the exact quote, but it went something along the lines of "I have a real lack of faith in Hollywood when it comes to comics-to-films, they don't know the material, anything they touch comes out horrible. `Sin City' will never be turned into a film as long as I live." He will be ashamed of them, so he refuses to allow Hollywood to option them. This is why he's the smartest man in comics today. Chris Claremont: Yes, I think Hollywood should be talking to him in regards to "The Huntsman" concept he teased us with in "WildC.A.T.S." #9-#12, and "CyberForce" #9-#11 - This looks fairly interesting enough to turn into a good film.
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There's no doubt that Rob Liefeld peddles in crap. The best one can hope for is, that if he comes up with an interesting idea, someone will take it from him before he can ruin it. However, the whole "Star Brand" debate is beyond useless. There's about ninteen million stories this year alone about "the chosen one." Nobody said Episode 1 was a rip off of Star Brand, and, let us not forget that Anakin is the chosen one. Hell, the main character is Pokemon is the chosen one. Besides, if the "Mark" does get made one will be able to see the lawsuit from Jim Shooter, and we can all find out if he's still alive.
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A match made in heaven. You have comic book artist Rob Liefeld who doesn't seem to realize that his fifteen minutes of fame is up and you have Puff Daddy's brother, Will Smith.
These two men make their money by piggybacking on the hard work of others. Liefeld uses his tracing paper and light box to rip off other artists and Smith is too damn lazy to come up with original materials for his rap music so he samples everything in sight.
These two scam artists deserve each other. Hey let's throw in Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich for good measure. They've proven two things with Godzilla: 1) The success of ID4 was a fluke (Stargate was crap also!). 2) Godzilla was about as original as anything Liefeld and Smith have produced. Folks, what you have here are four of the biggest male bimbos in the entertainment industry.
In a perverse way, it would be funny to see The Mark released only to watch it do the tidy bowl twist. The best thing you could do is ignore them. Don't see their movies and don't buy their products. Paying money for their Xerox brand of entertainment only validates their continued existence.
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For whomever it was that asked about Rob Liefield... you already know that he is a comic book artist/writer. He became truly famous when Spike Lee featured him in Lee's "Levi" commercial line back in the early 90's (harping on the the facts that Liefield was a self-taught artist and pretty young at the time). He did some work on "X-men" spinoff "X-Force"--- which had previously been titled "New Mutants"--- before leaving to join the Image line...
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Yes, you heard me right. Liefeld is the most original comicbook creator ever. What other creator have you heard of that rips off a well known idea and presents it as his own and at the same time expectsthe public to think that it was an origianl idea? Everything Liefeld creates is a rip-off. Bloodwul=Trencher+Lobo.Supreme=
Superman+capt.Marvel. Troll=Wolverine+Lobo. You see what i am getting at? So we have to feel sorry that his Mark idea was too closely related to The Matrix? Boo-fucking-Hoo,Mr. Liefeld!. Its about time people realized that Liefeld sucks donkey cock.On a side note, I hear Liefeld is starting an origial religion. Supposedly Liefeld will be God manifested as a man on Earth and then to pay for our sins, he will be crucified on a cross. Yeah,my sin being buying five sets of X-Force no.1 back in '91. By the way, don't rent Buttman Confidential. All John Stagliano does is tape himself jerk his wanker as he washes old tapes of chicks he piped.You know this guy,right? He's a porn director that carries the AIDS virus. The thing is that most people know he has it and these porn starlets still suck his cock. Its as if he were taping a jailhouse electrocution.
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...because Rob L. is an awful awful hack. I guve Rob full crdit for brining some excitement to the New Mutants about ten years ago. He stuff had energy. He had ideas man! I remember checking out some of the preliminary work that he'd done for it in the old Marvel Age. Great stuff. Unfortunately, it turns out that Rob's "talent" was mostly vapor. I tell you what, if the studio wants that project to be quality then, pay Rob and get him the hell away from it! How obsurd are his comments. "It was just like the MATRIX." OH BULLSHIT. "So I just re-wrote it (off the cuff) and now its better than ever" PLEASE don't insult our intelligence. I mean come ON!
Bottom line, if Will Smith hadn't linked up on this deal, then it would have gone away long ago. I've got two words for anyone salivating for this movie to make it into produciton..."DOOM's IV". Ring any bells? Rob had Speilberg intersted in the project a couple of years ago. It never happened, and in all honesty, this probably won't either. -
I agree with the bit about Smith only wanting to have fun. As for Liefield -- I'm going to have to plead ignorance here; my knowledge of recent comics is horribly spotty. If someone would be kind enough to send a link or some additional info, I'd be grateful. (Judging from the feedback here, it sounds like Liefield's problem is that while he has a basic level of mechanical competency, he freely steals inspirations from other people and then calls it his own, or hopes that the amalgamizing of same will disguise their origins. Am I right?)
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Everyone's comments on the Mark being a rip-off of Star-Brand is correct - BUT I would like to point out that Star-Brand was nothing much more than a rip-off of Green Lantern. But almost all these 'Hot' comics are just rip-offs. Wildcats ripped off the X-Men, Gen-13 ripped off New Mutants, Youngblood ripped off X-Force, Grifter is Punisher....
Liefeld gets it worse than anybody else because he is the least talented, but Jim Lee stole not only ideas, but other peoples art styles- whoops, forgot this is a film forum and not a comic chat-room, it gets difficult to tell the difference sometimes... -
. . . Does anyone think Chris Claremont will actually see any money from this X-Men movie? Considering he basically CREATED the whole "New X-Men" phenomenon? Now, don't split hairs about how the characters "Were already created". They were all minor characters in a mediocre book until Claremont took over. He ushered in most of the "original" ideas that the hacks these days crank out. Anyone think they'll "Do the Right Thing" and pay him handsomely? Doubting it. Look at Siegel and Schuster.
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For those of you who are unaware of how much Liefeld actually steals from others, and for those who are looking for a few laughs, check out the Swipe of the Week website.
This site has examples of artists who have swiped from other artists. What they do is show the culprit's work and next to it the original art where the work was stolen from. You'll find several examples of Rob Liefeld as well as others who have "accidentally" created the same, yet different images. Visitors are even allowed to vote on whether or not the similarities are coincidental or not.
The URL for Swipe of the Week is:
http://www.genesiscomics.com/SOTW/
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I have to agree with the general sentiments expressed about poor old Rob Leifield. However, you could just as easily say the same thing about any number of other professional comic-book artists and writers currently churning out crap.
It's compulsory these days for every super-hero to be at least ten-feet tall, with biceps at least as wide as their waist, huge tits (but no nipples), a tiny little peanut head and a big Dolly Parton wig. And that's just the men.
Also, they MUST have an amunition pouch strapped to their leg, finger-less gloves and a long over-coat, preferably with rips in.
Name one single decent film version of a comic-book. Not including Batman or Superman.
Think "Punisher". Think "Captain America".
Personally, I hope Frank Miller's Sin City isn't made into a film.
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I can think of three that did quite well for themselves -- The Crow, Men In Black, and Blade. Say what you will about MIB, but it was popular. Spawn debuted at #2 on the box office and made a clear profit.
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For Will Smith to portray Muhammad Ali would be an insult to the legacy of one of the greatest sports figures of the century. The only choice to play this role is Cuba Gooding Jr. Period! Think about it: Oscar-winning actor with genuine charisma and talent, and proven ability to do tough roles, vs. Will the one-trick-pony, limited-acting-range, sit-com, 'parents just don't understand' too-skinny Fresh Breath of Stale Air? Ain't no choice at all. I was glad to read that Moriarty suspected this project won't go ahead. I hope he's right.
Oh yeah, and if Rob Liefeld gets a big-studio movie made out of one of his "ideas" then folks it's time ro raze Hollywood to the ground (figuratively speaking). If you've never had the opportunity to read a Liefeld-drawn or -written comic, count yourself lucky indeed. Funny to laugh at if you're stoned, though. -
First of all, it would have been very hard for Terminator to rip off Aliens seeing as it was made TWO YEARS before Aliens was. Secondly, you might want to go to your local video store, pick up both movies, and read who directed BOTH Terminator and Aliens. Thirdly, if you want to talk about rip-offs, also go to your local book store and actually pick up a copy of Starhip Troopers. Read the book. Now tell me where Cameron got all his ideas for Aliens. Remember that this book was written in 1958. What's funny is that Aliens is not only a (MUCH) better movie than Troopers, but actually manages to be a more faithful adaptation of the book!
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