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A reader reviews Kathryn Bigelow's THE HURT LOCKER and calls it a comeback!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I'm going to be seeing THE HURT LOCKER during SXSW, which starts next week and AICN looks to be getting some time with Kathryn Bigelow while she's here. It'll either be me or Capone, depending on whose arm-strength is better when we arm-wrestle for interviews (I've been training the Stallone way and have mastered Over The Top, so he's pretty much fucked).
Anyway, that's neither here nor there. Like most geeks, I find NEAR DARK to be a fucking awesome film and who doesn't like POINT BREAK? And STRANGE DAYS... you know, I have to revisit that one. I haven't seen it since it came out. It's very foggy in my mind. Better do that soon...
So, it looks like THE HURT LOCKER will be doing its job... namely to wipe K-19: The Widowmaker out of our collective minds. Can't wait to check it out myself, but in the mean time here's Henry Kinkle with his thoughts on it!
Hi Harry. Caught a screening of Kathryn Bigelow's Iraq war movie The Hurt Locker last night here in NYC. This being New York, I shelled out 20 bucks for the show, but that did include a post-screening Q&A with the director, and even a little free booze after that.
I have to start by saying I've found Kathryn Bigelow's career to be a bit of a disappointment. I think Near Dark is pretty much perfection. Absolutely the best of the growing crop of contemporary vampire films. The gunfight at the motel still ranks, for my money, as one of the best shootouts ever filmed. That being said, I think it's been down hill for her ever since. I know some people like Point Break, but while I'll concede that it is better than it has any right to be (given the immortal pairing of Keanu Reeves and Patrick Swayze), it's still pretty lame.
So, I'm happy to report that The Hurt Locker is, in my opinion, a real comeback for her. She uses the Iraq situation to craft a good old fashioned war movie, one that's largely devoid of politics, but filled with plenty of tension, action, and some well-drawn characters.
Plot-wise, there's not much to report. The film has sort of a loose, episodic structure that was, for me, reminiscent of Sam Fuller's The Big Red One. It's just a story of a group of guys (in this case, a three member bomb squad team in Iraq) going about their day to day, trying to stay alive until it's time to go home. No identifiable villain, no mission, so no real forward plot momentum. These three soldiers (all played by actors I wasn't at all familiar with) spend their days defusing the wide range of improvised explosive devices littering the streets of occupied Iraq, and we just follow them in their daily work.
The central conflict arises from the extent to which the team leader, James (played by Jeremy Renner) has a tendency to be a bit reckless, putting his much more cautious teammates in jeopardy. In this regard, the film covers some fairly familiar territory, in terms of exploring the fine line between bravery and recklessness/stupidity that's been a common theme of so many cop and war movies over the years. To Live and Die in LA came particularly to mind while I was watching The Hurt Locker, in terms of its similar depiction of a guy who thrives on the adrenaline rush of nearly getting killed on a daily basis.
The many scenes of this team diffusing the various bombs they encounter are incredibly tense, particularly one in which an Iraqi civilian shows up at a checkpoint with a vest made of explosives locked to his body, begging to have it removed before the timer attached to him hits zero. The tension bleeds into every scene, though, as Bigelow does a great job creating a constant sense of impending danger, where every pile of garbage or parked car is a potential bomb, and every Iraqi is a potential bomber or gunman. You feel this basically from the very first scene to the very last.
I won't spoil the ending, except to say that I found it really effective in terms of communicating the idea that, while war may be hell, for some, regular life is even worse.
So, all in all, an enjoyable return to form for Kathryn Bigelow. She doesn't reach the heights of Near Dark, but certainly surpasses the rest of her previous work. She confirmed in the Q&A, by the way, that the film will be opening June 26th.
If you use this, you can call me Henry Krinkle.
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Yes yes. The accents were a big distraction. But look past that and you have probably the best submarine film since Das Boot. Watch it again. It will surprise you.
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So I doubt I will check this out, even if I'm always interested in what Kathryn Bigelow is doing.
This reminds me btw that Eric Red's '100 Feet' recently came out on DVD in Germany. I really should take a look at that. -
Mar 07, 2009 3:52:01 AM CST
I thought this was a decent film. Didn't like the last 15 minute
by slimballs
It didn't fit with the rest of the film in my eyes.
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Point Break 2?? Just read it on imdb.
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It's really good to see Kathryn Bigelow's return to form. 'Near Dark' is fantastic and I'm also very fond of Point Break (a little cheesy, but has one of the best foot chases ever) and 'Strange Days' (great atmosphere).
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not only is kathryn bigelow hot but the hurt locker is a hell of a movie. it's gonna surprise a lot of people this summer. it's really that good. best movie i've seen all year. great performances from renner and mackie. absolutely gripping stuff, really suspenseful, keep your eye on this one. strange days is one of my favorites but this one might be the film bigelow is remembered for.
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Caught it a festival in Sweden and it's one of the most suspenseful movie experiences I've had in a cinema the last 10 years. Plays out like an episode of Generation Kill but with the non stop tension of 24.
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Comebacks are reserved for people who have fallen in stature. Bigelow never made waves in the same way her peers did, but she's been soldering on nonetheless. (Lengthy) breaks and sabbaticals don't always have to necessarily culminate in a perceived return to form -- she probably just decided it was the right time for her to get back into the game, and good for her.
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great combo of Cameron and Bigelow. one of my fav sci fi movies
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Mar 07, 2009 5:26:45 AM CST
a woman director to with more balls than many men directers
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...considering that K-19 was one of the most blandly directed movies ever, it just did not feel like Bigelow's heart was in it.
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strange days, stat!! It has a great script by Cameron, and its so well filmed. Plus Fiennes and Basset are both damn good in it.
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A truly underrated, kick-ass, adult sci-fi thriller with some great acting, original ideas and an impressively dread-filled atmosphere. Also, Vinicent D'Onofrio in crazy-mode is always a scary treat. If this is a return to filmaking form for Bigelow then that's all I need to hear to be there as soon at it hits the big screen.
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preach brother...one of the most unknown, criminally underrated sci-fi movies. Man I wish Cameron would write another script for Bigelow and let her take another crack at sci fi
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and... i thought it was pretty great, and pretty entertaining, and made me more aware of what the troops do for us over there.... but according to a lot of troops ive actually spoken to, they seem to think this movie was a total peice of fiction and B.S. so now all i can say is it was a compelling peice of entertainment, maybe dont take it as fact.
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Guy Peirce has a small role at the start, and i really thought his character was bad ass, i would of loved to see him as the main character, the actor playing the main charater was pretty good, but never came close to Peirce so that was a downer for me. Effects were great.
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Saw it in Toronto last year. It's got a great opener and three or four great scenes. What it doesn't have is any sort of thread to connect them. Oh, and the main character is basically Pete Mitchell-lite. But it's good. Totally worth seeing on the big screen.
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FUCK ANYBODY WHO DISSES POINT BREAK
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First half of the movie was absolutely awesome. The build up was awesome. Right after Ralf Fiennes shows up the movie tanked. Sucked my balls right off. It was truely a "WTF happened" second half of the movie. The story had potential but never delivered. I hate you Henry Krinkle, For making me waste my time.
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I hated it the first time I saw it, then years later, found it in the $5 bin at Wal-Mart. So I thought, what the hell, and I bought it. Definitely one of my favorite movies, and one of the best sci-fi films ever, IMO.
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one of my best sci-fi movies too. I think ita a great companion piece to blade runner. The second classic cyberpunk movie set in a future LA which is really a riff on the old dtective movies.
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that opening scene, the first person pov is just stunning. Also love how the tech is just the right side of believable. Interestingly, as it was written by Cameron, apparantly Avatar has a 12 minute first person pov, through the eyes of an alien running through an alien enviroment. If it can be captured as awsome as Bigelow gets that opening scene, that could be really sweet.
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Mar 07, 2009 9:58:18 AM CST
apparantly, its the scene that Weta and Digital Domain
by southafricanguy
are having the most trouble with.
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You need to rewatch that one, Quint. Excellent little cyberpunk movie.
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...is Kathryn Bigelow's best film. Is it flawed? Yes. Everything she does is, but this is the least flawed film she's made; No silly resolution through blood transfusion, no psuedo-spiritual surfer nonsense, and no hi-tech rape fetishism. Don't get me wrong: I like most of her movies, but they usually tend to fall apart in some fundamental way by the end, or just get kind of stupid. And for a female director, she sure seems to hate women, or at least not know what to do with them in her movies.
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Unfortunately the film was way ahead of its time, and suffered terribly as a result. It's a typically amazing Cameron screenplay, perfect structure, solid characterisation, strong female characters, original ideas (for the time) and great action sequences. Skunk Anansie don't hurt either.
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One of the best, intelligent (and bloody cool) sci fi movies ever made.The screenplay was part of Bigelow and Jim Cameron's divorce settlement, fact fans.
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Jeremy Renner just gets better all the time. Lots of cameos including Ralph Fiennes as an SAS shooter. favorite line in the movie. "You know you can shoot people here, you don't have throw wrenches at them." Response "Fuck off." I was a cop in the USAF you can keep that bomb squad shit. My nerves would have been shot after a week.
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I liked the film but there were too many distracting cameos from people more famous than any of the stars. It's really worth watching though, good stuff.
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...this has got Evangeline Lilly in it from Lost. I'm so there. Rowr.
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I am not sure how one of the guys in the barracks has a copy of this. I watched it with him on duty last week. It was the best and most effecting view of what life was like for me over there. It took me back to a hard time in my life. It looked and felt like the real thing. This is just what my time in Baghdad was like. I don't like to relive or talk about his stuff that much. It is too painful.......just wanted you all to know....This director nailed it. Now I want to know how this guy got a copy. I do not download films. But this one I am glad I saw with friends who went through it with me......Lets face it Baghdad SUCKED...I miss my friends I lost. PEACE WILL BE WITH US....someday
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I hope they never "reimagine" this. Ever. Or make a DTV sequel.
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Saw Hurt Locker a couple months back, not her best work in my opinion, but it is still a very good film, and superbly directed. As I would expect any film from kickass Kathryn Bigelow to be, frankly.As for K-19, I personally thought the film was quite good, and definitely an under appreciated piece of film making from a director who actually understands how to create tension and atmosphere, regardless of what some might think of the accents or liberties taken with the story. Then again I am a huge Bigelow fan, with Near Dark and Strange Days being two of my favourite films. Hell, I still remember seeing Strange Days on the big screen, with only one other person in the theatre (who I didn't know) and afterwards sharing the exact same "that was fucking great, why the hell isn't there anyone else here?" look of mixed satisfaction and puzzlement on our faces. Likewise, I also have much love for Point Break, Blue Steel and The Loveless, three films that achieve exactly what they set out to do, even if they could all be accused of being somewhat over the top at times. In fact the only film of Bigelow's that has disappointed me is the little seen The Weight of Water, which wasn't horrible, it was just one of those films that, for whatever reason, just doesn't quite work, with the end result being somewhat stillborn. Regardless, I truly wish that Bigelow would make more films. She's got a great eye, understands how to build atmosphere and tension (something all too sadly missing in most of today's directors), is great with actors, and doesn't pussy out when it comes to action and violence. She should be first choice for the kind of projects being offered to the likes of McG, Ratner, Wiseman and Bay. The fact that she struggles to get a film while those guys are flooded with offers and opportunities speaks volumes to the fact that sadly, most of the time, Hollywood can't tell talent from cheap theatrics to save it's life.
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it says a lot about the male crowd here that almost no one thinks to even mention it.
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The two part season 6 ender remains the best finale to a season and the Ron Eldard "Hostage" episode single handedly saved the final season despite Jon Seda's attempts to sabatoge its leagacy with his lame, shit-eating grin.
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...because she has the misfortune of having tits and a vagina in Hollywood. Not a popular thing to say in these "post-feminist" days, but if the shoe fits......
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ALL MASTERPIECES, REMNANTS OF AN ERA NOW GONE.
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There was a DVDrip about a month and a half ago. I though it was pretty solid, very intense. Something worth checking out in theaters when it premiers. Me, Ill just stick to watching my pirated copy.
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I rank it right up there with Black Hawk Down.
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speaking of Cameron's script structure, since you seem to know it well, have you read the old Avatar scriptment? If so, what do you think of the structure? And the ideas and imagery Cameron talks about and describes. Do you think Weta and Digital Domain can pull that stuff off?
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It's been awhile.
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...this movie should be taken with a grain of salt. I was my Infantry Company's main 'bomb sniffer' in Iraq. Id go in BEFORE EOD (Explosive Ordinance Disposal) and if I found indications of an IED or VBIED then EOD would be called. The idea that these two guys kind of just ride around by themselves in Iraq is preposterous (Yes, Ive seen the movie). There would be at MINIMUM a rifle squad if not an entire platoon cordoning off the area and providing security. EOD soes not function in a vacuum and an IED or VBIED is often times accompanied by an ambush team. The shooting starts AFTER the explosion. In a lot of cases there were TWO bombs. The first would go off...the QRF (Quick Reaction Force) would respond along with our Iraqi counterparts and ERTs (emergency response Teams) only to have the SECOND bomb go off. This reinforces the need for a large,well trained and coordinated TEAM. Again, nobody there works in a vacuum. I felt that the IDEA was right for the story but that they couldnt afford any more 'soldiers'. This movie felt 'small' to me and Iraq is anything but small...whenever you fart theres at least 30 people around you to hear it.
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We need an ANAMORPHIC Strange Days DVD soon.
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that of the two guys who have posted with military backgrounds, one thinks it accurately sums up the 'Iraq Experience' while the other suggests perhaps not. Who to believe?
Perhaps it doesn't matter - I've seen the film and it's remarkably good. I hope we see more from Bigelow.
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I don't think the two points of view are opposed--one guy said that he felt the movie reflected his (of course, subjective) experience of Iraq, the other said that it didn't match objective conditions (troop levels, protocol, etc.) No need to believe either of them.
I guess my question would be whether you got the impression that Bigelow was aiming more one way or the other, towards objective depiction or towards suggesting 'how the war felt', or maybe somewhere else entirely? -
I caught this at a film festival, read: watched the divx copy in my underwear. Action scenes were top notch, but there wasn't much story. Movie just seemed like an excuse to throw some badass action on the screen.
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It's a region 2 DVD I think, been out for a decade
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joe......go back to sniffing the your nco's ass! This is real and you know it.....BOOM....oh god I will see you at the chow hall! What are you pissed that eod showed three hours late to your !objective.........you know it's true........true blue
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you think you ran the war......dumbass///I am INFANTY Take it for what it is............PFC JOE!!!
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You are so right. Those movies are FANTASTIC. Strange Days, particularly, is the kind of thoughtful big budget blockbuster that wouldn't get made now because it's an original idea, not based on an existing book or graphic novel. (There is a downside to all these comic book moies, you know...)
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dude, while I agree strongly with the sentiment of what you are saying (too many adaptations, sequals,prequals etc) U cant say that that type of blockbuster would nt get made now (rare and unlikely..yes) After all dude, what about Avatar? (written by the same guy) Its completely original, it has a massive budget, and the old scriptment was plenty thoughtful.
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now that you have made me think about it, there is only Avatar, and Pixers movies that are at all originl concepts.
Everything else is a squal....*fill in the blank* The studios have become so risk averse. All tentpoles are set up as potential franchises, and things are only greenlighted if it has a pre-existing fan base, and/or name recognition among the general public.
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when I see geeks on a film fan site bash Cameron or Avatar, i mean shit...if nothing else give Cameron credit for trying something really new and different (I mean he could ge tthe gig to adapt just about any propert if he really wanted)
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or gigantic success I respect Cameron for doing what almost no other "blockuster director" is doing.
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anyhting from it, im looking really forward to being suprised and not knowing exactly what to expect...its been a really long time sinc ethat has happened for me
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"Kathryn BIgelow was a great woman... but that was another life." DUN, DUUUUN!
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Can't wait to watch again on a big screen. Seeing Kate from Lost pop up took me out for a moment, especially when she was basically playing Kate. Same look, same sense that she's hiding something. To be fair, she didn't have much to work with here.
Is it just me, or does the main actor seem like he might have been a better casting choice for James T Kirk? He seemed to have a bit of the look (but odd nose), all of the swagger and undeniably had the acting chops. And a bit of that glimmer/sparkle that the Shat has in spades. Not that the current guy is a bad choice. I just thought "wow, this guy could have been Kirk". -
...considering I'm still over here. I have to be honest in saying that I thought it would be yet another cheesy ass "what it's really like" Army movies (Home of the Brave...cough..vomit).
I thought this had been out for a while considering the Iraqi bootleggers have been selling DVD copies for over a month. Anyhow, great flick. I have a few buddies that refuse to watch it, but I can't say I blame them.
However, I'd love to see an E-5 punch an E-7 with no negative outcome. Even moreso I'd love to be able to drink here and there while deployed, but then again it is just a movie.
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And they weren't even driving up armored vehicles in the movie...I can understand not being able to get the resources, but come on. EOD of all people in the film should have been slammin 200lb doors. And hadji driving through and damn near running over dude....would've been dead. And if a team of soldiers ran up on a vehicle like that, in the manner that the driver was acting/driving....they'd all be lucky to still be alive. Protocol, standard operating procedures, and a lot of other things were all wrong. But if you focus on the team, and what they were feeling and going through...Bigelow fuckin nailed it.
You're right, it does feel "small" in comparison to the real thing. Considering that the movie revolves around the nutbag EOD team, I think the director was focusing on them and them alone. Had she been aiming to make a film about an entire unit, I still feel like she'd do a good job...aside from the reality checks and how things would really happen. Maybe she just had a shitty military advisor on set?
And I lol'd at "INFANTY."
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...why she hates her own sex, as evidenced by the drivel known as STRANGE DAYS.
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How can you not mention Kathryn's all time best movie -- and one of the coolest films of all time, The Loveless!! Robert Gordon!! Acting and the soundtrack!! Willem Dafoe at his spine-shivering best!
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"Point Break is lame"? You, SIR, are lame.
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I really wanted to enjoy this, I really did. I loved Near Dark, Point Break and Strange Days as I was growing up. But I'm 32 now, and maybe older than the target audience for this nonsense.
The opening sequence with Guy Pearce was excellent and had me excited, imagining a film full of fuckin tense mini-'Wages Of Fear' moments..and then everything fell apart after that excellent sequence. Yes, action sequences were well directed, yes Bigelow deserves to have much MUCH more hype about her (on the strength of previous films). But this is just insulting to our intelligence and our troops!
Surely the reality of what these guys are doing in Iraq is nothing to joke about? Apparently we're supposed to coo and aahh at the pathetically simple minded "I don't give a fuck" posturing embodied by the central character. Really?! I mean it's fun in Point Break, but in Iraq? Today? Really?! REALLY?!
I realise that I'm in the minority here, and i'll watch the film again. Maybe I missed some redeeming quality, but as far as I could see it's a flick about the deification of a like, 'totally awesome' thrill junky in totally inappropriate circumstances. Our guys are out there right now risking their lives and they deservce to be protrayed with a bit more integrity, no?
I'd love to see the David Simon conter argument to this piece of simpleminded nonsense.
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Don't know if she's been shut out by Hollywood because she's a woman director,really choosy in her projects or just plain lazy-
But she never really lived up to the promise shown in her early films
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As to "it says a lot about the male crowd here that almost no one thinks to even mention it (Blue Steel)
If you think guys avoid the movie beacause the lead character is a strong female-
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(How often do you see it shown on TV or even find it on DVD in the video store?
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Youre a fucking poser tool that cant even SPELL Infantry correct you fucking dumbass rear echelon donkey fucker. You proved my point. You cant even spell Infantry correctly (ironic) let alone pass the ASVAB and youre pissed because youve been exposed as a loser: A basement dwelling nobody whose closest experience to combat is playing MOH on his big brothers XBOX.
Fucking moron...go back to the basement and let teh adults talk. Youre mom says your dinner will be ready in 15 minutes but shes not sure if you want the 'spaghetti-o's' or the usual PB and J.
Youre a cheese eating rear echelon donkey fucker that needs to keep his pie hole closed.
Dismissed, fuckstick.
Id be glad to submit my DD214 to Harry or anyone on the staff here that proves I am who I say I am. What are you going to show, that lovely fingerpainting you didof mommy and the neighbor kid 'wrestling' in the bedroom while daddy was at work?
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I agree completely. I thought teh actors did a great job and that teh STORY was good. It felt small because I dont think they nailed certain aspects (maybe due to budget or ignorance) that would have knocked it out of the park.
The SOP was completely wrong but the story had the right 'heart'. I think it was a good movie that could have been a GREAT movie.
The other interesting thing is that the war is different depending on not just what your MOS was but where you were and WHEN you were there. I was there for OIF 1/2. That was a rough time for the medics and docs at teh Baghdad CASH. We had constant mortar attacks, VBOEDS, Fallujah and the Mahdi Army. My heart went out the medics...those folks had a double helping of shit on their plate as did those of us in the Infantry. Joe doing his first tour of Iraq NOW is seeing a far different picture then what we saw.
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I thinks its relatively apparent who the real military are here and who has actually been there, done that and got the T-Shirt (or CIB...look it up FOOMASS).
As one person put it that 'dont give a fuck attitude' was MAYBE exaggerated a little but let me explain the phenomenon: Some of us got to the point where we COULDNT give a fuck anymore. When you spend every day getting shot at, blown up, mortared and having to check 90 some cars a day at checkpoints for explosives....well, SOMETHING has to give. "If it happens it happens". Sometimes you get to the point where you wish it WOULD because the anticipation of it happening can become overwhelming. Thats part of what PTSD is. Its an adjustment not to be in an environment where apprehension and adrenaline is a constant...where every smiling face could be some bad guy fixing to detonate himself and every Burkha could be concealing C4.You come home and have to play like everything is alright. Quite a few of my friends immediately went back as 'contractors' because they had become addicted to the adrenaline and/or couldnt function in teh world. My best friend did three additional years in Northern Iraq with the Kurds and he's all fucked up. This movie is a small glimpse at some really deep shit and I guess that is part of the 'small' feeling I got from this movie.
Now, to poser fucks like FOOMASS...when you turn 18 why dont you enlist for real you semi-literate milk baby...you have to be able to SPELL Infantry before you can BE Infantry you slack jawed inbred wannabe.
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The ironic thing is, my unit is here again running all of the MTF's in Iraq. To include Ibn Sena in Baghdad, as well as the outlying TMC's all over the country.
I don't claim to be anything other than what I am, I'm Commo and secondary medic, it comes with being in a CSH. You can talk about us but you can't talk without us, etc etc. A "pogue" or "PotG" in most peoples eyes. Shit, that's fine with me. I've got a family back home and a little girl I want to see grow up without experiencing what most of my friends have and being strung out on PTSD meds for life.
My point being,I may not have been on the front lines, but I've seen (and still see every day I go to work) what our guys and the other guys look like after shit hits the fan. Nothing fun about it, and to me seeing kids, friends, and enemies alike (in the same room) fighting for life on a stretcher is more than enough of a dose of reality.
And you're right about the contractors. They're no different than Jeremy Renner's character in the film. It's called being Institutionalized. You're subject to extreme circumstances for so long, that it becomes an acceptable reality for you and you can't seem to function in any other way. So yea, I can understand the CHARACTERS completely. I see kids like this every single day. In that aspect, yea this is a great movie.
@LockesLOSTkidney: The obvious civilian. No one is trying to glorify a movie cliche in the film. It's not insulting to the troops or to anyones intelligence...unless of course you refuse to believe that YES, there really are THOUSANDS of people like that in the military. And YES most of them would rather be over here doing what they feel is right, as opposed to being a mindfucked robot who has no CLUE what is really going on in other parts of the world unless Faux News does a 2 hour news brief or its in an episode of LOST. To me the movie is more Drama than action, just step out of the Michael Bay mindset and pay attention to what these guys are going through.
Step away from the t.v. and enlighten yourself. Otherwise the only intelligence or therefore lack of, is your own. It's not an action movie cliche, this shit is real. I don't know a single soldier alive that would be insulted by the movie, maybe the inaccuracies would bother them but never the personifications on the screen. -
..or therefore lack of, is your own.
Got caught up in the moment. :p
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