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Additional Rumors: Pixar working on a top secret remake/sequel to TRON'

Hey folks, Harry here. Some interesting developments have popped up about this story, and that's that there may well be two TRON projects bidding to be the 'next TRON movie', but both within Walt Disney's empire.

The first we heard about yesterday and concerned TRON and PIXAR (which is in a deal with Disney, thus being the tie-in for a possible sequel/remake) Then there is the project at Disney Animation (Yes, this has NOTHING to do with the alleged Pixar project, if it even exists) and is called WARRIORS OF TRON, apparently they have a script and are now conducting initial storyboards and animatic tests. And here is the basic rundown on the Disney Animation WARRIORS OF TRON project...

4 high school kids uncover a plot to destroy all the world's computer systems on Jan 2, 2002. After alerting the authorities, they realize nobody believes them. They search for help and it leads to an aging Flynn. Flynn reveals that Alan and Lora died in a car accident 15 years ago.. He is a recluse, and the guilt has left him feeling responsible in some way. He dissmisses the teens, but after one of them probes him about the Tron program, he agrees to send them into the new CPU. they must compete in games set up by the CPU to destroy the system. Flynn eventually joins them inside.

That's all that my fella at Disney would let on about, but it's enough that I hope and wish Lasseter godspeed with his project... if one exists.

Yesterday's report lays below this point.

Alright you Pixar animators, publicists, editors, musicians... Yeah you. I know you read the site... I have ways of knowing that stuff. Now fess up, what in the wide wide world of sports is a going on here?!?!?!?

Well, I have a good 30 or so folks that read this article over on ZDNET.com, that professes to have a source at PIXAR that's talking about a sequel/remake of TRON that John Lasseter is gonna be heading up.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?

Here is your mission should you choose to accept it. I want you, top secret employee of PIXAR, to spill the beans. I want to know everything that any of you know about this so-called project. If it doesn't exist... I wanna know. If it dood exist... I wanna know. Why do I wanna know? Because TRON is the coolest motherfucking holy mary mother of god cool reaming goat herding marshmellow roasting project this side of the afterlife. And if John is on board then God is on our geek's sides. Please be true.... If true then my 16 mm print of TRON just became my most valuable possession next to that Scary Monkey and Scrubbing Bubble.

Now one final thing super secret PIXAR spy.... Hurry. My pulse is racing. I'm Fat. I could die and never know the truth. Think about my unborn grandkids in my loins. THey must know before the autopsy sets them free. I have to know. Please don't make me beg. Pllllllllllllleeeeaaaaaeeee..... I'm begging you, don't make me beg for it. I have dignity.... I have class.... All the women that want me will see me as the worm that I truly project Quint to be. ARGH!!!

Note to non-PIXAR employees: This is a ruse to get information. Actually a diabolical plan. You see. They won't be able to resist this level of pathetic whiney blubbering. I learned about this technique in a book on the life of Salvador Dali. He always got what he wanted. So.... GET ME THAT INFO.... and a can of Hungarian Moustache Wax.... Yeah.... Baby, my antennae will be erect!

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  • July 25, 1999, 2:07 a.m. CST

    Could I be first? Does anyone care?

    by Z`

    hmmmmm....lets see

  • July 25, 1999, 2:17 a.m. CST

    Please be true!

    by Jhett Dark

    This would be a most excellent ride. Tron was a true innovation, but viewing it now makes it look pitiful. A sequel/update would bring this classic film into the age in which it was set. Now if we could just get The Black Hole remade...

  • July 25, 1999, 2:42 a.m. CST

    IF THIS IS TRUE THEN THIS WEEK SHOULD GO DOWN IN MOVIE HISTORY

    by IWANT2CITALL

    With the 2 Ian's being casted in the Lord of the Rings this is what would be known as gravy.

  • July 25, 1999, 2:54 a.m. CST

    HARRY, I'VE SEEN THE LIGHT!

    by Brendan3

    God Harry, did I ever tell you how much I loved TRON? Good enough?

  • July 25, 1999, 3:03 a.m. CST

    Yeah, baby !

    by RobinP

    I agree totally with Jhett Dark up above. Reading your review of this movie a few weeks ago made me dig out the tape from the archives. I hadn't watched it in years, and the first thing that struck me was how quickly it's become dated. Okay, it IS 15 years since it was made, but the advances in computer technology have been astounding since then ! Yeah, a remake sounds good........and Pixar making it, well guys, that elevates it to sheer perfection ! But..........15 years down the line, my guess is we'll all still be here, older, no wiser, bitching and moaning that it's time for another remake !

  • July 25, 1999, 3:41 a.m. CST

    Live-Action or 100% CGI?

    by mechatek

    This is great news(hopefully not a rumor)! Has Pixar integrated CGI with live-action before? I think this TRON sequel will lose a certain sense of continuity if it goes totally CGI. Plotwise, the MCP is gone, so bring in the program eating virus. -mechatek-

  • July 25, 1999, 5 a.m. CST

    What's wrong with you people?

    by Gag Halfrunt

    Guy, girls etc...Tron, incase you've forgotten, was a silly, boring, purile exercise in replicating Star Wars, and it deservedly flopped. It is not a "cool" film. It's not even adequate. It had good ideas but that's it. A piece of shit. What's there to get excited about? Christ, a movie of Reboot would be better. *Gag Halfrunt*

  • July 25, 1999, 5:24 a.m. CST

    Why not LIMITED remake...

    by Cronksty

    Wouldn't it be cooler if they just re-did the backgrounds and shit ONLY. Just keep all the orginial actors in those kick ass blue suits, and composite them over updated sets. Sounds good?

  • July 25, 1999, 5:49 a.m. CST

    Biology 101

    by Roann

    Harry, great news about Tron and all, but your grandchildren will come from your children's loins.......not yours.

  • July 25, 1999, 6:07 a.m. CST

    If it has David Warner...then I am there

    by Ranger1138

    I love cult classics and a whole lot of them had David in them. Can't help it. He just adds that odd quality I like. ST6, Time Bandits, Teenage Muntatn Nija Turtles, Titanic, etc. Just somethnig about a character actor I guess. Also, Harry, I love my THX LaserDisc box that came out abut five years ago of TRON. It is one of the best boxes I own with the two deleted scenes [ one with no sound sadly ] and the test reel that they used to sell Disney on the movie. The running dialogue from the creators is wonderful and it is one of the few LDs I have that I can wave under the DVDers out there and say that you didn't get everything one this one. In fact, the more digital remastering that this film gets the worse it gets since the director was using the anolog quality of film to hid the movie's imperfections. That seems to be something that "OOOOHH..AAAHHH!" crowd tends to forget. Some films just won't transfer well to the five inch disc because they were shot in the trickery of anolog. As for superimposing the acotrs...it might be just cheaper t remake the damm thing rather tan clean the print up, if it really could be done, to fit withing the confines of todays FX. TRON was shot in 70 mil. and the cinematogropher was famous fot the quote "Which eye do you want in focus?". The reason was that to put the actors in with the FX was a task that had to be pioneered slowly. It also required that the actors hit their marks exactly or the FX would be off on thier costumes. Digital editions of the film shows just how that happend in the case of the scene where they are drinking from the enery pool. Weither you liked the film or not, FX wise it pushed the limit and gave some studios more tech to do what we see now. You can't have a "Reboot" without a TRON to spark it.

  • July 25, 1999, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Uh, TRON?

    by Nordling

    No offense to TRON fans - I liked it when it came out but saw it recently and find it incredibly dated - but a remake or sequel of this just wouldn't make sense. Pixar has been known to make quality, original films - key word is original - and it doesn't seem to me that this would be a good idea. TRON, to me, was incredibly hammy. I like David Warner as much as the next guy(In Time Bandits his role as Satan is one of my favorite supporting roles - "NIPPLES FOR MEN!" still cracks me up) but I didn't like him in TRON. Oh well, Pixar's cool enough to me at this point that I'll watch them do anything. If they want to be the Disney of computer animation they should get the rights to some great fantasy novels or other children's books and make films out of them. Just my $0.02...

  • July 25, 1999, 7:57 a.m. CST

    DwD: Thanks, But I'll Pass

    by DwDunphy

    I'm probably the biggest Tron fan out there; lots of good memories about seeing it and I was too young to know people really hated it, and their buck vote proved that out. So yeah, when I say that maybe this project shouldn't be done, in favor of an entirely different concept using live action / cg, it sounds odd coming from my lips. Here's why: Tron has historical merit, whether its critics like it or not. Those who do not like it tend to loathe it. I really think it would be better not to tamper. I doubt they would get the original stars back for a sequel and a remake thru Pixar would be too gratuitous for G-centric Disney / Pixar. WB's "Iron Giant" will not change that perspective. So Pixar, rather than glomming onto old concepts, do what you've done so well up to now... use original ones.

  • July 25, 1999, 8:37 a.m. CST

    The fact that Tron SUCKED doesn't matter.

    by Prankster

    I hated Tron. In fact, it might be fair to say I loathed Tron. And this is when I was 8 years old!! I haven't thought about it much since then. But no mattter how crappy the execution, I have to admit the concept could have worked. And THAT'S what gives me hope for this movie (if the rumours are true--which I somewhat doubt, but for now let's treat them as if they were true). The PIXAR people are so imaginative and talented, I'm sure they could improve *massively* on the concept of a man trapped in a world of video games. It's not just the visuals--it's the narrative. These guys could do an incredible job coming up with interesting characters and clever plot lines--all the stuff that was missing from the original.

  • July 25, 1999, 8:39 a.m. CST

    I HOPE THIS IS TRUE

    by gsolo

    I would love to see them make a sequel using the same architecture and designs with Jeff Bridges, then clean up the original and re-release it. Tron ruled my childhood.

  • July 25, 1999, 8:40 a.m. CST

    I HOPE THIS IS TRUE

    by gsolo

    I would love to see them make a sequel using the same architecture and designs with Jeff Bridges, then clean up the original and re-release it. Tron ruled my childhood.

  • July 25, 1999, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Tron special edition?

    by SimonBJ

    If Lucas can make a Star Wars special edition, then why can't Disney? What I am getting at, well, part of the charm of Tron is the actors. And part of the problem with Tron was the limits of what the filmaker could do way back in the stone age of digital effects. I want to see the Tron movie, but with all the effects which are possible today. Now that I would pay money to see.

  • July 25, 1999, 8:52 a.m. CST

    TRON!? You better be kidding...

    by EL Duderino

    That was probably the most boring and idiotic film I have ever seen. All I remember is that these people inside the computer with these huge neon suits beat the crap out of Jeff Bridges and then they play all these games until they defeat the other guys. And besides, isn't it a law now that all disney movies have to have atleast ten hits to the groin in order to be released into theatres?

  • July 25, 1999, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Tron?

    by PipsOrcle

    TRON IS FRIGGIN AWESOME! But please don't make a sequel. The graphics and technology are much to advanced these days than the 1982 badass mofo! Disney & Pixar, wake up! IT'S OVER! Tron is a part of the past, not the future, ummm-kay? I mean, it's like making a sequel to Blade Runner! I know this comparison is waq, but I'm talking about the technology. Tron set its standards and so did Blade Runner. I'm sure another Tron might be worth it, but in terms of the audience these days, uh, no. We've already seen what the Matrix and Phantom Menace can do with their art. Tron, as well as the game, is 80's, not 21st century. Same goes for Blade Runner! Why continue on making sequels, when you can make totally original films? I thought Pixar was one of the most original new companies! Well, we'll see. Just don't make it a crapfest like Inspector Gadget, umm-kay?

  • July 25, 1999, 10:36 a.m. CST

    Don't worry, Harry.

    by Qwiblet

    No amount of groveling could possible make us stop wanting you. Especially when you start referencing Salvador Dali, you sexy devil.

  • July 25, 1999, 10:50 a.m. CST

    My nipples are soooooo hard!

    by GhostofLaneMyers

    A "TRON" AND A PEE WEE BIT ON THE SAME DAY MY GOD WHAT A GREAT DAY TO BE BREATHING!!!!!

  • July 25, 1999, 11:11 a.m. CST

    NO, NO, SWEET MERCIFUL CRAP, NOOOOOO!!!!

    by Tall_Boy

    Tron? TRON?! Okay, I can be a geek as much as the next guy, but FUCKING TRON?!!! PLEASE NO! Repeat after me folks: Tron sucks! Repeat it like a mantra. Tron sucks. Oooommmmmmm... (PS- I gotta say Harry (if you'll actually read this), though your post was funny as always, main reason I read the site. Personality)

  • July 25, 1999, 11:55 a.m. CST

    Slashdot informant

    by Platinum Dragon

    A poster over at Slashdot (www.slashdot.org) claims to be a former employee and stockholder of Pixar. He doesn't speak directly for the company, but says from his experience Pixar would NEVER do a project like this. Summarizing his post, he says Pixar spends more time on scripts than CGI, that they won't do a movie until they like the concept through storyboard pix and employees reading the script, and that TRON just wouldn't fit their model. CGI just wouldn't save the movie. Take it with a grain of salt if you wish, but there's one opinion...

  • July 25, 1999, 12:01 p.m. CST

    What's Wrong with Tron

    by TopQuark

    Tron was an interesting idea that falls down for a lot of reasons...the most prominent of which it isn't really ABOUT anything (well, okay, it's "about" 96 minutes long...). The film has no theme. Sure, you can relate the plot, which is just the series of events, but what is it about? The most glaringly obvious thing the filmmakers missed is that they could have done a modern take of the Christ story here...the user who came down and walked amongst the programs, and how he changed the way they lived and through. The setup is all there, but they don't mine that material. This wouldn't have had to be deadly serious...in fact, it could have been played for comic effect...with the user who doesn't want to be the "messiah" but whom can't seem to escape this destiny (remember Life of Brian, where, after Brian repeatedly denies he's the messiah, one of the fanatics declares, "Only the true messiah denies his divinity!"-- Catch 22 if he denies it, he is, and if he admits it, he is too). Oh plenty of possibilites with Tron and how it could be played...but I suspect any remake would be no better than the original except perhaps technically.

  • July 25, 1999, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Tronmania '99 or "Spellcheck for Jesus"

    by mantler

    I hate to be so off topic, but for the love of God, people...learn how to spell! Learn fundamental English grammar! You're frightening me. There is honor in geekdom, but not in illiterate geekdom. Tron was a fun movie for kids at the time it came out. I'm sure a perfectly good remake could be produced given the resources that the film industry now has at its disposal. And yes, they'll need a good story. In any event, if the joyless detractors of the new Star Wars movie insist on judging such an effort within the critical expectations of sophisticated entertainment intended for adults, then they will be rightfully and repeatedly disappointed. It's time to stop living with your parents, get a job where you don't have to wear a name tag, and stop spending 75% of your disposable income on comic books. It's time. Embrace the light.

  • July 25, 1999, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Fu$K Tron! I want a sequel to THE LAST STARFIGHTER!

    by Darth Siskel

    Now that was a movie! The Last Starfighter had a great premise, & left plenty of room for sequels! Come on! Aliens used videogames to recruit pilots for their war! The new one could have a bunch of new recruits, not just one punk, but many.

  • July 25, 1999, 12:47 p.m. CST

    Tron was a period piece

    by majorhavok

    Tron was launched as a tie-in to the 80's video arcade craze, and a visual crash course on the basics of computers. Syd Mead and M

  • July 25, 1999, 1:32 p.m. CST

    I liked this movie the second time i saw it

    by Colonel Kurtz

    when it was called the Matrix

  • July 25, 1999, 1:54 p.m. CST

    Another aspect of TRON

    by tgdbar

    Something I caught when I watched my LD boxset, was how there was a story point that was relevant, just in hindsight and could be a basis for a new movie. Consider the David Warner realworld character as Bill Gates and the Master Control Program as Windows. That actually matches up to a lot of what goes on in the real world. Just think of what power Bill would have, if Windows was running NORAD/Cheyenne Mountain? No one will acknowledge what backdoors may exist in Windows, and what Microsoft could do from their headquarters in Redmond.

  • July 25, 1999, 2:04 p.m. CST

    "Reboot"?

    by Revelare

    an all CGI film for "Reboot"? That would be pretty damn cool, but definitely get Pixar to do the animation for it. Make the quality of it more 3D, with textures, rather then what "Toy Story" looked like, or the actual shows animation textures. I'll admit to only having seen 4 episodes of "Reboot", and not *TOO* fascinated with it, but I would definitely go see it as a film. No songs, either.

  • July 25, 1999, 3:02 p.m. CST

    To quote THE SIMPSONS:

    by W. Leach

    Homer, trying to explain what it's like in the third dimension: "Did anyone see the movie TRON?" "No," "No," "No," "No," "No," "No," "No," "No," "No," "No," "No," "Yes. I mean, uh, I mean no..."

  • July 25, 1999, 3:03 p.m. CST

    What the hell is so special about Tron?

    by Buzz Aldrin

    Fuck this movie! It was sooooo fucking boring I never even made it to the end. Does a piece of shit like this really DESERVE a sequel? A REMAKE though is another thing entirely, and they probably realize that. This is pretty much an admission that the first film sucked, and NEEDS an update. But with the original being so lame, they're fighting a losing battle to begin with and should abandon the project. Also, don't these guys have an original fucking idea in their brains? Why the hell do we always get remakes and sequels? Think of something we haven't seen before, for fuck's sake!!!! I have to say though, that no matter how much I hate Tron, I'd rather watch it a thousand times than see that Godawful kiddiefest "The Phantom Menace" again even once!

  • July 25, 1999, 3:16 p.m. CST

    i'm going to hell for this, but...

    by tommy five-tone

    ...'tron 2.0' (as the corona boys dubbed it) could work if the pixar guys get a good script to work with. the reason the original 'tron' (which isn't too good) has staying power is because it came out in the greatest movie summer in recent memory - 1982! - alongside 'blade runner' and 'the thing'. everything looks good when you view it through a nostaligia haze - shit, i get misty thinking about 'megaforce' sometimes!

  • July 25, 1999, 3:21 p.m. CST

    this is EXACTLY...

    by Volt

    exactly the kind of movie they need to remake. Re-Do TRON with modern computers and it'll be so frickin' cool I'll soil myself. I just hope they don't rewrite the story too much. If they hire some hack who doesn't know jack about computers but THINKS he does it'll be horrible. Just imagin a HACK-iva esque conception of the internt? shudder.......

  • July 25, 1999, 3:45 p.m. CST

    16mm prints of Tron worth 0.

    by The Bagman

    A 16mm scope print of Tron isn't really worth anything, Harry. And if a re-make or sequel was made, it wouldn't increase in value either. Get a 35mm print and then you're talking.

  • July 25, 1999, 5:32 p.m. CST

    Revenue from Spin offs could drive this...

    by lymond

    Imgaine the rubbing together of hundreds of merchandisers hands as they contemplate the spin-offs of a big budget Tron II. The comics, the toys, the video games! I for one would love to see a Tron II - the first one I probably enjoyed more than it deserved to be as I loved the main premise of the story. Normal guy sucked in PC to play computer games for real - every 12yr old geeks dream come true. And those motorbikes that left a solid wall in their wake rocked!! I could only enjoy a Tron II if it was a completely different story altogether rather than a carry on from the first. Imagine being thrown into the incredible world of todays PC games; they could really have some fun! Human from real world teams up with Lara Croft from Tomb Raider to battle in a Quake universe using Need for Speed cars for transport...

  • July 25, 1999, 6:34 p.m. CST

    The potiential

    by Fizzik

    How many of you illiterate slobs grew up in the eighties? I did. Coming from the video game mindset, such as Space Invaders, Tempest, etc.

  • July 25, 1999, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Reboot? Hmmm..

    by Fawst

    Why not Transformers? And I don't mean Beast Wars, and I don't mean cheezy Transformers either. I'm thinking, take the storyline of Transformers, pop it into the 90's instead of the 80's (much cooler vehicles now, don't you think?) add some "mature themes" (no, not robot nudity.. but violence and dead Autobots/Decepticons) and you'd have an instant mega hit. But it'll never happen. To stay on topic, my friends and I just watched Tron this past Friday... yes it needs a sequel. Can't wait ;)

  • July 25, 1999, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Make a Sequel because a remke will never equal

    by TRON

    It is the right time to have a sequel to Tron. With the growth in computers in the last 18 years, theres a major jump in material that you could write into a new film. Even to think how old and simple the "Tron program" is by todays standards. A new story could incorporate elements of the internet,viruses,java,etc etc. Imagine seeing a CGI image of Tron looking old as if hes now in the same role as Dumont. A great story line would involve a major virus taking over the internet that started from Encom enterprises. Jeff Bridges reprises his Flynn charater as head of ENCOM.Finding out that the source of the virus stems from Encom hedetermines his only hope to stop the spread of the virus is to once again enter the mainframe of the Encom computer and exit to the internet. This newest world of the internet will now be a major traffic jam filled with new sights and sounds to push the artists imagination. The finale will reveal that he wont be the only user in this world. The source of the virus will be inside protecting access to stop it with various traps.

  • July 25, 1999, 7:41 p.m. CST

    WhooHoo! I'm LAST *grin*

    by Gryphon68

    Ok, first off, I still watch TRON from time to time. It still tends to remind me of the aforementioned '80s video games. Kind of a happy feeling that I was THERE, as I was there for SW:ANH. (although I don't think they were ever in competition despite what some others may say). *this is just my fantasy side thinking...I'm thinking sequel, bear with me. Ok, Tron and the game programs are free due to Jeff Bridges character, a long time ago, yadda yadda yadda. But now it's the 90's and the game programs have understandably leaked over into the internet. Jeff Bridges decides that he has made a mistake and creates a new MCP to curtail those programs which were once his friends. Shortly thereafter he is faced with the realization that he, himself has censored the internet. But he cannot shut off the new MCP. He must return to the "land" that he once visited in order to battle the MCP (that he modeled after HIMSELF) to end the oppression that he re-created.* Huh? Huh? What do ya' think? Anyway, I'd go see any remake or sequel of Tron, as it is a part of my younger years. For a while, I can forget the shit going on in the world around me, that's what movies are for.

  • July 25, 1999, 8:09 p.m. CST

    Self fulfilling prophesies

    by 60091

    You said that you were fat and that you could die soon? I was a bit disturbed by that statement. Like I felt that you really are going to drop dead of a heart attack in the near future. Who is going to maintain this great site if you do die? TRON really bored me when I saw it.

  • July 25, 1999, 8:13 p.m. CST

    TRON, Reboot, and all that jazz

    by Giga-Nerd

    OK, just to get it out of the way, Reboot, while it would make a great movie, will NEVER be done by pixar, because it, along with Beast Wars and Shadow Raiders(War Planets) is produced by MAinframe Entertainment, which is quickly becoming one of the premiere companys out there that are producing 100% CGI programs.. And lets face it, anyone who has seen the Last season of Reboot can attest that the quality Is nearly as good as Pixar... But I digress, I was talkiing about TRON. Well, I gotta admit I liked the film as a kid, but watching it now, the story was far from being the greatest story ever told... Esspecially that tacked on romantic subplot. But things were hoky like that back then... I would like to see a sequel movie made though... Something along the lines of CEO Flynn trying to recreate the "digitization" process used by the MCP to interface with a computer system... (being able to talk face-to-face with a program WOULD be the ultimate form of input), and the need for this interface is needed even more when A disgruntled former employee sends forth a virus capable of destroying first the anti-virus, then the system... blah balh, kick-ass..blah blah blah... the end, no romantic subplot. :)

  • July 25, 1999, 8:13 p.m. CST

    To: THX 1138

    by puddinHead

    Re-read Col. Kurtz post. Slowly if you have to.

  • July 25, 1999, 8:28 p.m. CST

    TRON 2000

    by Outsider News

    Hello, friends -- Disney recently struck a new 70mm print of TRON for a festival of their live-action classics they held at Hollywood's beautiful EL CAPITAN theater, a venue that makes Austin's PARAMOUNT look like Round Rock's Movies 8. There is nothing else on this Earth like seeing films from the 40's in an environment where they are right at home. Rich Fleischer's and Walt Disney's 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA may seem out of joint at the NORTHCROSS 6, but at the EL CAPITAN it is every bit as timeless as it was meant to be. The response to TRON that night was very affectionate (it probably didn't hurt that that Steven Lisbereger and Bruce Boxleitner were on hand to introduce the film and field questions as well.) But it also proved to Dsniey that audiences have caught up to the film's terminologies. TRON's week-long run was lucrative, if a bit brief, which may have prompted Disney to engage Pixar in helping with a restoration of the film. I don't believe they are making a remake of TRON or a TRON II. I think Disney may be gearing up for a re-release of this film for its MILLENIUM CELEBRATION (if that happens), and MAY have approached PIXAR to do some work on elements that are lost or impossible to correct using conventional methods -- TRON 2000 isn't something I've heard about from my contacts either at DreamQuest or at DFA. I might be wrong, but we'll have to wait and see, I guess. I'll tell you something I believe is true. TRON may have been a debacle in that sad time in the late 70's and early 80's when Disney - try as they might - could do nothing right. But Disney is unique among film studios in that they are a brand name (no one ever opens a newspaper and says, let's go see that new Warner Bros. movie!), and by the time of TRON's release, too many wretched films had tarnished that brand name. The studio that was founded by the man who made SNOW WHITE, PINOCCHIO, FANTASIA, BAMBI, 20,000 LEAGUES UNDER THE SEA, DARBY O'GILL AND THE LITTLE PEOPLE, TREASURE ISLAND, and MARY POPPINS (not to mention the woefully unreleased TRUE-LIFE ADVENTURES) suddenly became - post-Walt - the home of HERBIE GOES BANANAS, THE MILLION DOLLAR DUCK, THE COMPUTER WORE TENNIS SHOES, THE BAREFOOT EXECUTIVE, UNIDENTIFIED FLYING ODDBALL, CONDORMAN, and TRENCHCOAT...among others. Walt made cash-flow crap, too, like LT. ROBINSON CRUSOE USN, but I'll take that any day over SUPERDAD. So I believe TRON got a bad rap. Audiences didn't turn out and hate it -- Like FANTASIA, they simply ddn't come t see it at all. Disney under Ron Miller destroyed their brand name, and the next thing you knew, Disney couldn't get people into theaters to see their films even if those people were chained to a bulldozer. Outstanding works like TEX, NEVER CRY WOLF, NIGHT CROSSING, THE JOURNEY OF NATTY GANN and (dare I say it?) RETURN TO OZ to this day exist only as horribly transferred aging VHS tapes or rotting decade-old laser discs. So, to those of you who pounce on TRON trusting the veracty of your 15 year old memories, allow me to suggest to you to see the movie again, except this time don't watch that horrid VHS tape rotting at your local Blockbuster. If my suspicion is correct, I think you may soon be afforded the opprotunity to see this film in a theater the way it was meant to be seen. But barring that, if I'm wrong, check out the wide-screen laserdisc and DVD. You may be shocked at how solid and fun this movie is - its cornball as hell, true, but it sports more visual ambition and savvy than some films will ever dream of. It needed a once-over by a script doctor, but it in no way is the dreadful film you all seem to remember it being. -- ER3

  • July 25, 1999, 9:41 p.m. CST

    oh, come on...

    by narf

    PLEASE!!! Somebody stop! There are thousands of young writers out there filled with stories and ideas! Do we really need to wallow in our own recent movie crapulence by doing a high-tech remake of TRON? I just wish we could travel back to the last golden age of movies, the early 70's, and see a couple of flicks with no FX... Just people.

  • July 25, 1999, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Remake Tron? Sure. But How do I get them to remake TRANSFORMERS:

    by RodimusPrime

    Now that would be a real treat!

  • July 25, 1999, 10:15 p.m. CST

    Tron sequel? The idea pleases me to no end...

    by wolf

    The nostalgia Tron conjures up for me is more than my words can convey. My best friend growing up was the biggest fan of Tron, long before he'd even seen the movie. Y'see, Mattel Electronics had released videogames for its Intellivision system, and my friend Steve played them to death. He proceeded to acquire all things Tron, including the tabletop electronic game, theatrical one-sheets, books, etc. Fueled by his love for Tron, I became very interested as well. It was 1982, and it was one of the greatest genre film years in history, unleashing scores of great (and not-so-great, but for those willing to step down from their critical and over-analytical standpoints, still fun) sci-fi, fantasy, and horror films including The Wrath of Khan, E.T., Poltergeist, Firefox, Swamp Thing, Conan the Barbarian, The Road Warrior, Blade Runner, The Thing, and Tron. I fondly recall sitting with my cousin David in the cool air-conditioned arena of a huge theater in a suburb of St. Louis (the name eludes me, I was visiting relatives with my parents), eagerly awaiting the movie, Star Trek II, on a hot and sunny Saturday afternoon. The theater darkened, the projection hit the screen, and the curtains parted to the cheers of the relatively large crowd. As usual, the trailers rolled, the first being Firefox, with Clint's twenty-foot wide scowl mingling with fantastic flight sequences that reminded me of Star Wars, and made me excited to buy a ticket for it. But next was Tron, and the spectacle of that preview with its never-before- seen computer generated SPFX, dizzying camera moves, electronic music and vibrant colors, remains one of my most memorable theatrical trailer experiences to this day. I can safely tell everyone reading this that I will NEVER forget that day, and no matter what plot shortcomings, or silly dialogue, or dated effects that Tron has, I will never think of it as less than a landmark in cinematic history. So if the story of a sequel is true, then I say go Pixar, go Mr. Lasseter, return me to that day nearly twenty years ago. I will thank you and support you for your efforts to entertain me and thrill me all over again.

  • July 25, 1999, 11:11 p.m. CST

    I understand your pain, but Tron IS cool.

    by the devil

    When i was little, i LOVED those Lightbikes. Butbutbutbutbut, i must admit, i had NO IDEA what the hell the movie was about, and it was pretty boring. i think must of us who saw Tron thought it was pretty lame at the time, and those who see it now balk at the ANCIENT special effects, i admit they bug me, too. BUT Tron is a cool idea, and while the bizarre music and stuff tends to slow the time frame (which is why it seems to move so goddamn slow-a lot happens very quietly) it was still impressive. I for one was bothered by the amount of CGI in starwars...it seemed to be a great movie, but just not quite star wars to me. Anywho, Tron deserves another chance. If Pixar really does want to do it, then i say please GOD let them keep live action in it. Star Wars NEEDS the creature shop, and Tron NEEDS live action. I know that isn't pixar's thing...in fact, it's expressly OPPOSITE their thing but...COME ON, LIGHTBIKES! YEAH!!! Better than any damn Podrace.

  • July 25, 1999, 11:18 p.m. CST

    GOOD CONCEPT

    by Eeque

    This is a pretty good idea. I'm so sick of Hollywood making horrible remakes of great films like Night of the Living Dead, Psycho, or The Mummy. I think that remaking a flawed film with a good concept is a great idea. Especially a film like Tron that can benefit from the advances that've come in visual effects in the past ten years.

  • July 25, 1999, 11:56 p.m. CST

    The Black Hole? Yuck!

    by Chasuk

    Jhett Dark: What kind of drugs are you on? The Black Hole was the worst big-budget movie ever made. Two animated garbage cans in a pathetic hybrid of Star Wars and 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea. Who would want to see a piece of shit like that re-made? I mean, I know Power Ranger fans who gag watching The Black Hole. You were kidding us, right? Or would you also like to see a re-make of that television "classic," Space: 1999?

  • July 25, 1999, 11:57 p.m. CST

    RE: Good Concept

    by Roner16

    I Agree but if you want to reamake a movie that needs is remake Explorers. You can use all the same material up to the point where they get to the ship. As far a Tron goes I would love another movie. I like the whole messieah concept that was posted earlier.

  • July 26, 1999, 12:20 a.m. CST

    A sequal to TRON would be better.

    by anim8er

    Better than a remake I think. A movie like TRON was ground-breaking and should be left alone as the original. Computer animation has certainly progressed since TRON came out. That could be a part of the plot for the sequal. The computer universe in the '80s, the original TRON, could be used to show the past. I see no reason to re-do the original stroy with modern CGI. There are plenty of ways of creating a plot for a sequal. Perhaps a Bill Gates character as an evil user taking over the computer universe. A virus invasion AKA Reboot. Again, I think the original should be left alone.

  • July 26, 1999, 12:25 a.m. CST

    I can't freakin wait!!! TRON rules!!

    by Clavius

    If true, I think this is a fantastic idea! Yeah the movie does bear a serious time stamp but when you consider the time period in which it was made, the CGI is pretty amazing. (for the early 80's) And I can just imagine what a revamped, rebooted and reimagined 90's version would look like. New Lightcycles, new recognizers, new MCP, all of it! Tron is by no means the greatest film of the 80's, but I think it just has that "cool factor" going for it and I for one can't wait to see it.

  • July 26, 1999, 4:30 a.m. CST

    Simpsons quote...

    by Billy Idol

    That was a superb use of a Simpsons quote (above). I applaud WLeach for his/her impressive command of Simpsons knowledge. I must submit my own Simpsons quote. Marge: An alligator with sunglasses? Hee hee, now I've seen everything! simply substitute "A remake of TRON?" for "An alligator with sunglasses?" and you've got yourself a relevant quote" Oh, and by the way, TRON sucked. The blue suits were kinda cool when I was 4, but not really. Although if anyone could pull off a cool remake, it's Pixar. Okay, I've gotta cut this short, I've gotta go watch Tim Burton's Batman in order to remind myself why I hate Joel Schumacher.

  • July 26, 1999, 4:57 a.m. CST

    A sequel to Tron is one thing, but the crap described above?

    by Drath

    PLEASE!! This stupid group of teenagers learning about a plot with computers that isn't Y2K related(boy, that'll change in the Disney rewrites)?! This thing sounds like the worst crap this side of Super Human Samarai Cybersquad and VR Troopers! I hope Jeff Bridges's career hasn't sunken this low. The Pixar one might be good, but this summary we got--blah! I agree with that one guy, give us the "Return of the Last Starfighter!" I loved Craid Safan's score to that!

  • July 26, 1999, 5:36 a.m. CST

    All I know is...(minor info)

    by Teko

    ..that the folk at Pixar have been covertly describing this project as the "Millenium Project". If ANYONE else was considering doing this, I would be aghast, but as with P.Jackson & LOTR, I trust that Lasseter will do Tron 2.0 right or not at all. But PLEEEEASE get Steven Lisberger on board! Tron came outta his mind, and he deserves to help let it re-emerge.

  • July 26, 1999, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Remember the times, folks

    by Myrrhibis

    For all you folks that say TRON sucked - oh well, to each their own. However, I think it's safe to say that most critics & industry people would give cudos to TRON for what it did in the FX arena - if TRON = Reboot, then TRON also = Beast Wars, War Planets, Voltron 3D, new Johnny Quest and several other cartoon/ shows out there. To this day, I think that the 3 primary actors (David Warner, Bruce Boxleitner, and even Jeff Bridges) all do very good to excellent work (well, maybe not Bridges of late). On a side note, ladies - who else thinks the Boxleitner looks as good or better now than his younger (TRON & "Scarecrow & Mrs. King") days?

  • July 26, 1999, 5:54 a.m. CST

    Harry is a dick

    by VShael

    This is 17 millionth film project this week, (how's that for hyperbole) that Harry has jizzed all over like a fruitcake. Doesn't he ever fucking discriminate between "Glory be to my God of the week Ash/Carpenter/ Warners/Pete/Woods/Kevin Smith/Starwars" and "This sucks."? Tron was a horrible movie, IMO and in the opinion of plenty of other movie fans. But until Harry learns to discriminate, he should at least employ a jizz-mopper.

  • July 26, 1999, 6:43 a.m. CST

    Tron and other oddities

    by The Gline

    I remember having a serious affection for this movie (TRON) when it came out. I watched it again recently, on DVD, and it hasn't held up all that badly. Still, though, when it comes to what I would really rather see -- a TRON sequel or something new and fresh, using the same resources... I'd really rather see something new. There are no end of good stories and great scripts out there going a-begging. Every time someone starts talking about A WHOLE NEW PIECE OF THE SAME OLD CRAP, PART FIVE, my heart dies a little.

  • July 26, 1999, 6:56 a.m. CST

    Tron should be left alone

    by Marky_Mark

    I think it's a bad idea to use the name in a sequel or remake. You know it will suck. Disney didn't give a rat's ass about Tron, but now they're opening up the proverbial chest in the attic looking for new ways to make money from old ideas. As a kid I loved this movie, but kid's nowadays obviously don't remember Tron and wouldn't like it if they saw it.

  • July 26, 1999, 7:24 a.m. CST

    That reminds me of LAWNMOVER MAN 2: BEYOND THE CYBERSPACE

    by clifss

    When i checked out the small synopsis on plots for WARRIORS OF TRON it imediatly reminded me of one stupid movie.... LAWNMOVER MAN 2: BEYOND THE CYBERSPACE wich i saw like 3 years ago.... bout 80% of story is similar....

  • July 26, 1999, 7:34 a.m. CST

    My nominee for the role of the Master Control Program goes to...

    by Obee Juan

    Bill Gates! Wouldn't it be great... having Tron and a horde of those other iMac-colored programs flinging cds at Bill Gates' shining face? Better yet... have his face shining out from an Intel CPU and have them flinging AMD and Cyrix CPUs at him. You could have Intel salespeople as the guards dressed in gray suits!

  • July 26, 1999, 8:42 a.m. CST

    OHHHH THE HUMANITY!!!!!!!

    by JarJarmusdie

    Dear god!!!!! One Tron is enough!!!!! Gsolo, you suck! How could Tron rule your childhood? I pissed my pants laughing when i saw it. Oh god, if this is true! Gsolo your a nerd!!!! Now, if Kevin Smith made Tron 2 with silent BoB just ripping up video game bad guys and Jay messing with the main frame that would kick arss! Of course he would cast me as the lead!!! Peace Out*****

  • July 26, 1999, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Jeff Bridges

    by Qwiblet

    Yo, sorry to get off topic here, but what do you mean Bridges hasn't been doing well of late? Didn't you see "The Big Lebowski," dude?

  • July 26, 1999, 9:22 a.m. CST

    are you people dense or what?

    by nugyar

    first of all, the concept of tron wasn't simply that some guy gets eaten up by a computer and plays games....granted that was the literal plot of the movie, but if you were anywhere near being an adult when you watched it, you should have at least picked up on the fact that it was also a story about people making a difference in a world dominated by money and corporate polotics. disney has always had a way of making movies that are both entertaining for children and intelectually stimulating for the adults of those children...that's why they're called family movies..duh. if you aren't bright enough to be able to watch the movie and get something more out of it than a child would, then fine......don't watch it! take some drugs, sit on your couch and let your brain turn to mush. neato. i personally think a more technoligically advanced and updated version of the movie would do extremely well these days...and i wouldn't hesitate for a second to take my son with me to go see it because i know we'd both really enjoy it, together.

  • July 26, 1999, 9:38 a.m. CST

    Old net rumour or is it true?

    by Alex Rogan

    I have my doubts about this. I've heard this net-rumour about PIXAR doing a new TRON movie since TOY STORY came out and I won't buy into it untill some hard facts come to light. However... I'de *love* to see a really well done sequal to TRON done. No camp or kiddie stuff, but a serious kick-a** action flick written by someone who knows computers (and knows how to write a kick-a** movie). There are so many possible story lines it could take too. As for The Last Starfighter, I would love to see a sequal to that too and have some fantastic ideas for a script. If TRON 2.0 is made and does well, perhaps we will see a TLS sequal.

  • July 26, 1999, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Tron should not be remade, but a sequel yes!

    by gomer

    The should not update the graphics on Tron. It is a period piece and the graphics were moslty worse than the movie back then. It would be perfect to do a sequel, and show how the technology has grown exponentially. I like the idea of an aging Flynn returning, but only if he is played by Jeff Bridges again. Some of you say that Tron sucked, but if you had seen it in the theater, back when it was first released, it was an amazing spectacle of light and sound. The story was secondary, and thats why it has acheived it's cult status.

  • July 26, 1999, 11:01 a.m. CST

    BRAVO Demon!!!

    by SpiritOfAJedi

    You tell 'em, man! The 80's, for me, were the HIGH point of civilization. I too chucked frisbees at the heads of my friends and argued on end who got to be Han in the neighborhood Star Wars game. The music, the movies...1984 -- Gremlins & Ghost Busters. Oh, Mama...take me home. OH, TRON ruled and so does Episode 1...though as far as Star Wars goes, I long to see "Empire Strikes Back" in the theaters again. Or any of the 80's flicks for that matter. I win the lottery, and I am opening a one house theater that shows a different 80's flick every week......AAAAAHHHHHH, Heaven.

  • July 26, 1999, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Krull rocked.

    by Rolande

    F!@# Tron. Krull was the shit, great video game. Dodging boulders, shooting henchmen, avoiding fireballs. Tron was retarded.

  • July 26, 1999, 11:31 a.m. CST

    Krull rocked.

    by Rolande

    F!@# Tron. Krull was the shit, great video game. Dodging boulders, shooting henchmen, avoiding fireballs. Tron was retarded.

  • July 26, 1999, 11:59 a.m. CST

    There already is a 90's movie about people in a computer....

    by Niiiice

    It's called The Lawnmower Man part 2.....remember that piece of crap? Thats whatll happen if you add a 90's spin to Tron....it just won't work at all.

  • July 26, 1999, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Various Comments

    by Pilcrow

    I'll confess to having seen TRON twice during the summer of '82 and loving it both times. Having watched it more recently, I noticed just how lacking it is in plot, but back then, those visuals were more than enough to occupy my young mind. One thing that no one here seems to have touched on is that TRON was the first film to make extensive use of CG effects and showcased the state of the art in computer animation. Seeing the effects in TRON was a lot like seeing Star Wars. It was a brave new previously unimagined world back then. For those too young to remember, there was a time when Zaxxon was considered to have "the best graphics ever." Imagine seeing TRON in that environment, and realizing that computers could actually create an environment, or a ship, or a lightbike. I'd be interested in seeing PIXAR take a stab at this beast and using it, again, to showcase the state of the art in CG effects. I just hope they come up with something better than Jar Jar Binks. And someone tell Harry that this Warriors of TRON business sounds an awful lot like a weekly series Disney is ready to trot out after the theatrical release of the film. Considering who's working on it, I'd bank on it being a One Saturday Morning offering.

  • July 26, 1999, 12:40 p.m. CST

    tron sequel

    by michelle21

    I'm still waiting for Pac-Man:The Movie starring Cory Feldman.

  • July 26, 1999, 1:03 p.m. CST

    '80's Movies: An Anti-Tron Rant

    by Chasuk

    The best SF movie to come out of the entire 1980's was Blade Runner. Tron sucked. Both Tron and Blade Runner came out in 1982, and the visuals in Tron are so poor compared to the visuals in Ridley Scott's masterpiece that they might have come out in different decades. Or remember how much more styish and sophisticated The Terminator was when it came out in 1984 than shitty Tron had been two years earlier? Bruce Boxleitner has never been in a good film. He is one of the the worst actors who has ever lived. B5 would have been 50,000 times better without him. Being 12 is no excuse for liking Tron. A crap movie is a crap movie. The losers who liked Tron are the same morons who enjoyed Battlestar Gallactica (which TV Guide sums up as "Just as bad as the failed series. Lorne Greene should never have sold the Ponderosa."). Christ, just because you are a movie "fan" doesn't mean you have to like any mindless shit that happens to be put on film! I proudly consider myself a geek, but that doesn't mean I have to think that Automan or Manimal were any good! You poor, clueless fucks, get a life! Get some taste! I think some of you were hit too hard in the head by the frisbees you hurled at each other.

  • July 26, 1999, 1:43 p.m. CST

    summer of '82

    by m2298

    You missed THE SECRET OF NIMH,THE BEASTMASTER and THE SWORD AND THE SORCERER.

  • July 26, 1999, 2:08 p.m. CST

    an opinion from a Tron lover

    by Moby

    It's my favorite movie of all time. I hate the idea of a remake. Disney has beyond run out of ideas. They saw The Matrix and instead of creating a new, original story, they're remaking again. Tron was an engrossing, visually and musically mysterious classic. No matter how great the 1999 effects are, it won't match the Tron's wit, imagination and wonder. Why remake something that is just fine as it is? A special edition of the original, back on the big screen, would be fine, but Pixar is losing originality with its Disney partnership(Toy Story 2, bland Dinosaur movie, Tron remake). Change this trend now before history looks back and sees it!

  • July 26, 1999, 2:43 p.m. CST

    my 2 cents

    by The Human Bullet

    As Siskel and Ebert were fond of saying: Don't remake the good movies. Remake the bad ones. And well, Tron was bad. I'll step off my soapbox now.

  • July 26, 1999, 2:49 p.m. CST

    PixTron

    by lalapoo

    Pixar rocks, TRON rocked, it all rocks!!!!!!!!!! However...why teenagers saving the world? I hate those fucking premises. Two words -WING COMMANDER. However I do have all the faith in the world in Pixar. We'll see, if they even end up doing it.

  • July 26, 1999, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Star Wars and Tron...

    by JBardin

    I find it moronic that Tron is even compared to Star Wars. You really have to be one obsessed schizo to start comparing EVERY film to Star Wars, and then educate us poor, uncultured fools on how every film is a ripoff of Star Wars in some way, shape, form, or fashion. Really, you guys should take your medication before logging on here.

  • July 26, 1999, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Warrior Tron

    by VarietyWriter

    Way back in 1982, a videogame magazine (Videogaming Illustrated) received an unsolicited manuscript for a sequel to Tron called Warrior Tron. Supposedly the editors liked it but, of course, they couldn't publish it since the author held no rights to the concept. The story premise didn't feature teenagers, though.

  • July 26, 1999, 3:35 p.m. CST

    god bless you, maxwell demon

    by tommy five-tone

    truly a man of taste and distinction. please invite me to the opening night double feature of 'conan the barbarian' and 'the sword and the sorcerer'.

  • July 26, 1999, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Tron 2 = Wargames + 2010

    by flynno

    The premise above for Tron 2 sounds very interesting, and if done correctly, might even be a big hit. The only problem is, it was already done... anybody even seen the Matthew Broderick movie Wargames? Hello...right down the the reluctant recluse. Wow. I'm not slamming Tron here, because, hey with a name like Flynn (yes, my real name) how could I not love the original film? The only problem with a sequel to Tron, is that it would be completely devoid of it's original charm, mainly because technology has advanced so much, any plotline would have to be altered to fall within the realm of possible technology. The whole allure of movies like Tron and Wargames, is that in the early 80's, the average moviegoer might or might not know something about computers, and maybe catch a buzzword from time to time, but overall, know so little about the subject matter that it still seems fantastical. Here's a perfect example. 2001 and 2010. 2010 ruined everything 2001 strove to acheive. In the 60's, space travel was very new, and any possible future could be foretold without conflicting very much with existing technology. By the time 2010 was made, however, the space program had improved exponentially, both in technology and operation. Thusly 2010 had to be "updated" with current technology so the future would have some additional perspective. The same would have to happen to Tron, which would ruin it.

  • July 26, 1999, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Tron.

    by CockSlappinTart

    Yah, Tron was pure 80 cheese, and many have stated how dated it looked, but lets not forget that without tron, we would not have the CGI effects we have today. Tron was the first, and all that computer stuff you see was HARD CODED!! There was no Alias/Wave front, no Maya, no nothing! I happen to think that Tron still has one of the best and most original looks to it, its simple and high design at the same time. Syd Mead is a god, it's just that simple. The story was a good concept, the script was adequate,though it did have a few GREAT lines ("Treat him like all the rest, put him in the games, let him hope a little, then blow him away."), and it could have been more interesting on a "tech" level if they didn't dumb it down so much. However, it was a different time, and not everyone knew much about computers, so i guess it had to be fairly simple. but the possibilities for revisiting that world are endless. Syd Mead better be involved, that's all i can say. I mean, who wouldn't want one of those light cycles? CST

  • July 26, 1999, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Proof that EP1 stank

    by Ford

    I cannot believe that a second rate, at best "B" grade, sci-fi piece of steaming shit like TRON would rate in the geek factor for a remake. The closest that I can figure is that the truth that Episode 1 is utter shit has finally sunk in. EP 2 and 3 will more than likely also be utter shit, so what happens out in Fanworld? Appartenly any news of a 'cool' film whips up a kind of manic hysteria centering on the idea that any film orginating in that golden era (starting with Star Wars, ending with Temple of Doom) is a "cool" movie - maybe even a great movie. Getting excited about a remake of Tron is like blowing your load about a remake of "The Black Hole"! These films are good for one thing only, renting them out, getting a bunch of beers, a bunch of mates and serious amount of pizza, get well tanked and piss yourself laughing AT them, not with them. Personally, just in case you haven't guessed, I think it's time to leave these films where they belong, as memories, move on to new stuff. Maybe the studios will then get the idea and stop rehashing the same three concepts, or better yet, stop remaking great films and start to concentrate on creating a new golden era of film, a golden era for us aging geeks that were there in '77 and still want the same thrill that a well written and tightly excuted genre film can give. Don't get me wrong, there are great films being made, just not any great genre films, with the exception of the "Matrix". Studios are creatuers of habit, they keep making shit because audience keep eating it. Let's stop! Or at the very least let's start to tell them that we know their films are crap, don't get excited by this sort of news, rebel against it! Rally against it! If Disney get's wind that this is a stupid idea and that we won't be lining up to help them create another lame francise then they won't! Instead, let's keep the excitement for "Lord of the Rings" ,"Hellboy" or... fuck, I don't know - "Matrix 2 and 3" but not for this kind of crap. It's time we sent a message, we can start with not going ape over the eventual video release of EP1, if the video sales are well under what Lucas expects then he might get the point that it's our generation that spend the money, we want his product, and the product of the other studios that dish up the genre 'dross', if they want us to keep spending a good part of our high disposable incomes on thier franchises' then they had better start giving us the goods. Good scripts, good storytelling and great experiences. It's not that much to ask.

  • July 26, 1999, 8:53 p.m. CST

    doh!

    by tommy five-tone

    sorry, spiritofajedi, i meant to praise you rather than maxwell demon in my earlier post...although mr demon's 'tron' game is kinda cool too.

  • July 26, 1999, 10:54 p.m. CST

    What modern games would be portrayed?

    by Frank Rizzo

    OK, so if the sequel is 20 years after the first, can we assume that the games the characters are sucked into will be different? Will they battle in 3-D shoot-em-ups similar to Quake? Will the motorcycle races come back in an updated form? And what about computer viruses, internet, etc. how would that figure in?

  • July 26, 1999, 10:59 p.m. CST

    THAT PLOTLINE SUCKS ASS

    by Loser

    What a piece of CRAP. Ok...first of all TRON was more than just a simple fantasy movie. Granted, it's no sterling piece of filmmaking--but it did have sort of a hidden meaning that was even further elaborated on in the commentary on the Archive Edition LD. TRON was a movie about the struggle of technology against the monolithic structure of corporate america--a real war that was raging in the late '70s and early '80s...hackers vs. the suits. More specfically, on a level, TRON was the story of Alan Kay--a man who spent years trying to convince the world that people would be using computers the size of a notebook (the Dynabook)...only to have corporate america guffaw at the idea. The co-writer of TRON, Bonnie MacBird was indeed Alan Kay's wife. Anyway...sure TRON's original plot is goofball, but this lame-ass WARRIORS OF TRON idea misses the whole point. You can still have goofball action and a point--TRON proved that. I love the movie dearly, but I embrace all it's goofball-ness. WARRIORS of TRON is trying to 'cool-it-up': marketing TRON to a generation that couldn't give a shit. Mention TRON to anyone under 22 and they just get a glazed look in their eyes. Even if it has Jennifer Love Hewitt giving cunnilingus to a multi-orgasmic Stacy Holmes as she services Freddie Prinze Jr's throbbing sugar pipe, nobody in the intended target audience is going to care. What ever happened to movies like 'Hackers'? Remember Hackers? That happened to Hackers. And first of all, if you paid attention, Flynn has no recollection of ever being inside the computer. The last two acts in the film took place over maybe a few hundred clock cycles in the computer-world. When Flynn is re-assembled in the laser room, he doesn't remember a thing--maybe he's got a sense of lost time, if you can detect a lost picosecond. TRON was about a time that has come and gone. Doing a sequel would be almost completely meaningless unless they made it reflect the changes in the techno-political arena today. I'm sure Disney will just make a trite cash-in out of it, with a funny looking, wise-cracking, boot-sector voiced by Rosie O'Donnel providing comic relief as our heroes plod along singing heartwarming ditties about optical storage and TCP/IP packet loss. Someone pull my plug. I can't take it anymore.

  • July 26, 1999, 11:11 p.m. CST

    The Summer of '82....HELL YEAH!

    by Joey Stylez

  • July 26, 1999, 11:21 p.m. CST

    Yeah....and I meant Katie Holmes, obviously

    by Loser

    You know what I meant. It still sucks.

  • July 26, 1999, 11:27 p.m. CST

    The Summer of '82....HELL YEAH!

    by Joey Stylez

    What a magical time the summer of 1982 was, one of my all-time favorite summers. I was 14 at the time, getting ready to head into high school. I remember going to the movies with my father, which was cool because he liked the same movies I did. We saw E.T., The Thing, Tron, Star Trek II, The Beastmaster, The Sword and The Sorceror, Firefox, Conan The Barbarian, Swamp Thing...all these great movies! I missed Poltergeist, The Secret of NIMH, and Blade Runner (Believe it or not, I STILL haven't seen that movie, and I'm a big fan of Harrison Ford. Time for a trip to the video store!)Hell, even the music was good from that year. Reading this talkback about Tron got me thinking about the movie again. Those light cycles were sweet, and the tanks were cool, too. I just loved the whole concept of the movie. The idea of being inside a video game was just so f*cking COOL and the movie had an original look. Tron also seemed to play into the fears some people had about computers at the time, being that we knew so little about computers back then. Remember, 1982 was the same year that Time magazine's Man of The Year was The Computer! And of course, I loved the video game. Memories of a time long gone but never forgotten...

  • July 26, 1999, 11:32 p.m. CST

    There's a TRON backlash?

    by Mr_Paste

    I've just been reading everyones qualms about Tron, and I must say, I didn't know a lot of people harbored negative feelings toward it. The important thing to remember about Tron is that it was just a potboiler made to capitalize on the video game craze of the early 80s, and it, along with The Last Starfighter (which someone had a great suggestion of a sequel for) were "testing grounds" for computer technology in film. So, I like Tron for the fact that it was technically ahead of its time, and that it opened the window a crack for computer effects in movies. If they are making a sequel, it would be (hopefully) crafted "in the now", and they would (should) try to make it a quality film. But if the mouse plans to make it without at least a PG rating, they'll bastardize it further. Fuck Disney!

  • July 27, 1999, 12:29 a.m. CST

    TRON: one of the funniest movies of the 80's

    by reverto

    TRON works on a lot of different levels for me. The seamless integration of the video game and the movie were genius in the post-Star Wars marketing arena. The dated clothing and attitudes towards computers are fun. The effects are pretty cool, even today. But the best thing of all was the unintentionally hilarious homoeroticism. Ram's death scene? With his expression of ecstacy?? And his name is Ram??? WAH HA HA HA HA HA!!!

  • July 27, 1999, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Isn't anybody nostalgic anymore?

    by ORIONFAITH

    Isn't anybody nostalgic anymore? Can't you look back at this film and think about the hey day of video games, Pac-Man. Space invaders. Those were the days, This movie is so 1982. I love it, Yeah it feels dated, but it brings me back to my childhood. The look and sound of this film is so of it's time. It's the first movie to use virtual sets. I think it's still a fun movie and if they do a new version or sequel. I hope Jeff Bridges is back. Oh and that president of earth guy from Babylon 5 as TRON again.

  • July 27, 1999, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Who cares what you dorks think about Episode 1

    by ORIONFAITH

    Episode 1 just passed E.T. with 400million. It's now the 3rd highest grossing movie ever. To bad TPM haters, Star Wars wins again, Awwww, to bad, you're little backlash attempt towards the movie didn't work. You wasted your breath, hehehe. TPM is a huge success. True Star Wars fans loved it and saw what Lucas was going for, Another classic. Can't wait for Episode 2, So this is going out to all you Star Wars haters out there, you know who are you, Howard Stern! You can't win, Star Wars will always win, Hahaha!!! May the force be with with us!

  • July 27, 1999, 1:10 a.m. CST

    BOX SET MY ASS

    by Irie

    The BEST Laserdisc Box Set from Disney AIN'T "Tron." It's the trippy "Alice in Wonderland" which is (unbelievably) STILL AVAILABLE. Trust me--and get it before it's gone. Pixar will NEVER have anything to do with "TRON." As a matter of fact, neither Pixar OR Disney will. The next computer animation out of Disney will be the terrific (and trippy) "Wild Life," directed by Howard Baker and Roger Gould.

  • July 27, 1999, 7:04 p.m. CST

    '82 again

    by m2298

    Lets mention MEGAFORCE again...heh-heh.

  • July 28, 1999, 5:21 p.m. CST

    marshmellow?

    by matrix69

    Learn to fucking spell Harry!

  • July 28, 1999, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Remake Bad

    by Earth2Tim

    A Tron sequel would be fun to see, but a remake? no way. That movie is a classic, an inspiration for the pre-internet computer youth of the time(not to mention spawning one of the great arcade games of all time...complete with that cool blue light). And i don't care what anybody says, the movie was clever, creating an entire visual world out of the then cryptic computer terminology. I for one think that that movie should not be TOUCHED. It would be like replacing the alien creatures in This Island Earth with digitally super-imposed alien-like monsters. Part of Tron's charm, to me, lies in the fact that it's dated. I love how Flynn runs a video arcade where ALL the games still only cost a quarter, and they inquire as to Flynn's whereabouts to a kid, socks pulled up to his knees, wearing both wristbands AND a head band. GOD, how can you people not LIKE this movie? Its a gem from the golden age of arcade gaming. I hope more than anything that the laserdisc someone mentioned in another post is someday released on DVD. Without it, my collection will never be complete.

  • July 29, 1999, 7:23 a.m. CST

    What's next? The Black Hole 2?

    by Pauly Walnuts

    I don't know what was wrong with the technical staff at disney in the early 80's, but has anyone notice just how BAD movies like Tron and The Black Hole LOOKED? Forget the assinine dialogue and pitiful acting, just look at that muddy crapola. Looks almost as bad as Superman 2 shown on the local WB affilliate at 3am viewed while stoned on skunk weed.

  • July 29, 1999, 9:53 a.m. CST

    NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

    by Dingo Wrangler

    Please, no more Tron. The fact that it exists in the first place is enough to burn the hairs upon my ass. It was one of the stupider films I have ever seen. I don't know why, it's just one of those movies that annoys the living hell out of me. The concept, the lame look of the flick, I hate it all. Don't get me wrong, I love Jeff Bridges and I adore David Warner, he's a groovy character actor. I don't have a problem with Bruce Boxleitner (anyone remember Scarecrow and Mrs. King? I do. Now why not remake that into a big-budget film? There's a good idea for you, free of charge). And I am always up for seeing Cindy Morgan in something (preferrably sans clothes- thank you, Caddyshack). It's just that Tron didn't do it for me. Maybe it's just a personal matter, but that was a horrible pile of manure of a movie. But, at least this isn't another damn update on Lord of the Rings or X-Men (neither of which I give a SHIT about, and I don't think I am alone on that one). In short, NO MORE TRON!!!! Thank you for your time.

  • Didn't your mother ever teach you not to say anything when you didn't have anything positive to say? After all, I could sit here and bash all the horrible teenage soap opera-type films that the studios are pumping out for these non-TRON fans lately, but I don't feel like wasting my time on all that excess negativity.

  • Aug. 6, 1999, 7:21 p.m. CST

    they've seen the light

    by Runner

    It's about time someone's decided to consider Tron. I've often wondered just what mainframe everyone has been in these past twenty or so years to ignore a great movie like tron. Well, it hurts me to say this, but thank-you Steve Jobs for taking an interest in Tron, and I look forward to seeing it.

  • Aug. 27, 1999, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Tron Rocked

    by Nickell126

    I love the movie Tron, I saw it last week, it's an awesome movie, and anyone who thinks otherwise was obviously born out of a donkey's @$$.

  • Feb. 29, 2000, 11:02 p.m. CST

    HELL YEAH!!

    by lazerus420

    You people stink at whining. I think the idea of a sequel to Tron would be awsome! Yes, the movie did have a plot. It was about Flynn clearing his name by defeating the MPC. And yes they could do a sequel with todays technology. As you can remember, time within the computer is extremely accelerated. It only took flynn appoximately 10 minutes within the computer to accomplish the length of the movie. If we can go from horse and buggy to a lambergini in only 80 years, just imagine the "upgrades" the computer world would experiance in 15 years. God, I can remember the time of my youth when I ran around with a stick and a frizby and I WAS Tron! Who needed toys when you had a frizby and a stick! Besides, if a sequel came out then a whole slew of toys would come out for kids to play with. They never did have lightcycles for sale or recognizers to fly around like we had the gi goe helecopters or the starwars xwings. And yeah, I support the idea of a Last Starfighter sequel as well. Matter of fact, first movies I bought on DVD when I got the player were: Last Starfighter, Tron, The Dark Crystal, and Fear and Lothing in Las Vegas. With the right director and actors, and enough money thrown at it, it could possibly be a bigger come back than BATMAN. So chew on that!

  • April 2, 2001, 6:47 a.m. CST

    Tron was mind altering...

    by Long time geek

    Hearing about the possibility of a TRON sequel fills me with both excitement and dread. One of the more amusing concepts in TRON to me was that it showed a universe inside the computer where each program was a being that was behaving as it was created to behave. Ever since I first saw it, I tend to pause before I hit the delete key, just in case it will have a more far-reaching action than I can realise. (did I commit genocide when I accidentally formatted the hard disk?). Having read the Battlefield Earth book years ago, I was quite disappointed that the film didn't come close to addressing most of the major concepts of the book, it seemed to concentrate solely on the look and gee-whiz factor. If done carefully, with script and effects input from people who know the internals of computers rather than just try for flashy graphics, effects, or attempt a look aimed to appeal to a particular culture (ugh, horrible memories of "Hackers", "Johnny Mnemonic" and "Strange Days"), then they could be on to something, even if it takes another 20 years to be fully appreciated.

  • Aug. 16, 2006, 9:12 a.m. CST

    The Intellivision game roooooled.

    by Wolfpack

  • May 1, 2007, 3:16 p.m. CST

    Well?

    by yodaismyhomie

    So whatever happened to this??